Earthquake! Woke me out of bed in St. Louis 40 minutes ago. My first one. It was a 5.4 about 120 miles away.

Eek, I'm not even out of bed and the day's full of bad omens...

Morning Lizards!

I was just awoken by an earthquake, here in Louisville, Kentucky. About half an hour ago. 5.2 on the richter. It was apparently the New Madrid Fault.

No, no bludgeons. We all use firearms.

/less blood splatters due to range

The New Madrid fault made the Mississippi River run backwards in 1812, creating Reelfoot Lake.

Good morning, Lizards. A late start for me--my Baby Lizard didn't get back from DC until 11:30 last night.

re: #2 Palandine

Earthquake! Woke me out of bed in St. Louis 40 minutes ago. My first one. It was a 5.4 about 120 miles away.

Eek, I'm not even out of bed and the day's full of bad omens...

5.4 from 120 miles away and you woke up?

/amazed

re: #4 obscured by clouds

same as the St Louis one, or different?

This one was pretty far east, probably the Wabash fault rather than the New Madrid. Considering how hard it hook here, I'm a little more concerned with how bad it'll be if the New Madrid Fault goes

/Palandine lives in an unreinforced brick building.

re: #7 song_and_dance_man

Earthquakes? been there done that.

I take it you're from Indonesia (/). Here in Kentucky people don't think about earthquakes like they should but they're a lurking menace, especially in the far western part of the state. I'm sure Palladine knows all about the New Madrid fault.

re: #9 redc1c4

5.4 from 120 miles away and you woke up?

/amazed

The bed was shaking! It was like something out of The Exorcist.

re: #12 Palandine

Time to start stocking the emergency supplies then.

USGS sez......

re: #9 redc1c4

5.4 from 120 miles away and you woke up?

/amazed

Not really. The geology east of the Rockies is pretty stable, and the surface, S, and P waves can travel great distances while maintaining their energy. It was felt over 230 miles away in Chicago and shook chandliers.

re: #12 Palandine

This one was pretty far east, probably the Wabash fault rather than the New Madrid. Considering how hard it hook here, I'm a little more concerned with how bad it'll be if the New Madrid Fault goes

/Palandine lives in an unreinforced brick building.

i'd move......

CA native

re: #18 Honorary Yooper

...away in Chicago and shook chandliers.

Nice alliteration!

re: #16 BlueCanuck

Time to start stocking the emergency supplies then.

Oh, I've got the preparedness stuff squared away. I wasn't scared when it happened, more like "WTH?," but now I'm a little woozy. Oh well, life goes on...

re: #18 Honorary Yooper

Not really. The geology east of the Rockies is pretty stable, and the surface, S, and P waves can travel great distances while maintaining their energy. It was felt over 230 miles away in Chicago and shook chandliers.

then it's gonna suck back there when the next 1811 one hits.....

all that masonry and no gas valves, just for two problems.

re: #22 savage_nation

Me too. I grew up in the San Fernando Valley.

which is where i live these days.

/grew up in Central LA, more or less.

re: #20 savage_nation

HI, Savage Nation!

What we need to get clear is that religious observances must comply with the law of the land.

re: #10 redc1c4

same as the St Louis one, or different?

It would have to be the same one. If it is the Wabash fault, as Palandine is reporting, I've never even heard of it.

re: #29 obscured by clouds

here's the USGS report.....

make of it what you will.... i gotta get some sleep.

re: #28 goddessoftheclassroom

HI, Savage Nation!

What we need to get clear is that religious observances must comply with the law of the land.

Just don't tell that to the followers of the Big Mo'.

5.4 here in Spfd IL.
Saw former Ambassador Dennis Ross speak last nite at Univ of Il at Spfd.
Except for his 'blame Bush first' tone, he had a couple realistic things to say...one being that it is a huge mistake for Carter to be meeting with Hamas.
Don't know if there is a connection between the Ross speech and the shaker....

re: #29 obscured by clouds

It would have to be the same one. If it is the Wabash fault, as Palandine is reporting, I've never even heard of it.

The Wabash fault's been active in the past with 5.3s and less. There was a 5 or so near Lawrenceville back in the late 1980s.

Eh, not going to move, plus, this is St. Louis we're talking about. Not a lot that's not unreinforced brick or masonry. Plus, it's only a two-story building. Creepy, though--I just developed some more respect for our California lizards.

Oh well, since I'm up, I'm off to work. Take care, folks.

ok: i should have been out hours ago......

L8r!

re: #25 redc1c4

then it's gonna suck back there when the next 1811 one hits.....

all that masonry and no gas valves, just for two problems.

There was a 5.3 quake here in 1968. This one was a 5.4. Back in 1811 the New Madrid quake rang church bells in Boston. It was epicentered in Missouri.

What a crazy day this is. My wife has family in Illinois too. Hope everyone is okay.

[Link: www.chron.com...]

re: #37 savage_nation

And pedophiles need to be put in prison for multiple life terms....

Where they will only get to read Ted Rall cartoons.

re: #35 Palandine

Eh, not going to move, plus, this is St. Louis we're talking about. Not a lot that's not unreinforced brick or masonry. Plus, it's only a two-story building. Creepy, though--I just developed some more respect for our California lizards.

Oh well, since I'm up, I'm off to work. Take care, folks.

then it will only crush you a little when it kills you. you may even still be able to have an open casket funeral, unless of course it's a mass casualty disaster......

bricks are for BBQ's & walkways.

re: #31 The Other Les

Just don't tell that to the followers of the Big Mo'.

That's exactly my point.

Good night red.

/just remember me if one day you have an instant snowbank in your front yard. ;)

Woke my wife and I up in Dayton, Ohio. But we sleep on the second floor of an 1880s balloon-frame house, so I'm sure that amplified it. Never experienced a quake before.

re: #46 savage_nation

Now thats cruel and unusual punishment...

Bring it on, baby!

Seriously, I wonder how damaged these girls are mentally....

At the very least, they've been living in such an isolated bubble that adapting to "real life" is going to be so hard. They've been indoctrinated to think of the "outside" as evil.

And what about the boys? Think of how they've been brougt up to view women.

Hey roberth, quit being a dip an dinging down the news.

re: #49 savage_nation

I hear the boys were basically put out to stud. Breeders for the sect. Thats pretty bad....

Oh, that's horrible--I hadn't heard that.

Liberals are being stupid, again.

[Link: images.ucomics.com...]

re: #51 The Other Les

Liberals are being stupid, again.

[Link: images.ucomics.com...]

5 years of this, over and over again... What useless turds they are...

re: #50 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, that's horrible--I hadn't heard that.

That book written by Carolyn Jessop, 'Escape', a girl who escaped the sect with her 8 children, said that a lot of the boys are sent packing at an early age.

re: #51 The Other Les

Liberals are being stupid, again.

[Link: images.ucomics.com...]

Fixed that for you.

re: #53 savage_nation

I'll try to find the link to that info for you

Here's a bunch of links.

[Link: www.rickross.com...]

re: #25 redc1c4

then it's gonna suck back there when the next 1811 one hits.....

all that masonry and no gas valves, just for two problems.

The next big New Madrid, we'll lose half the Mississippi bridges between Memphis and St Louis, and a whole lot of pipelines.
(How does gasoline get from Texas to New Jersey?)

re: #51 The Other Les

Good morning Les. Don't know if you caught it or not. Remember the new rule of highly effective pirates? There were actually two new rules in the gag. Rule #4 has never been posted either. :)

Quake felt here in Milwaukee, WI. Shook for 15-20 seconds.

re: #54 Taqyia2Me

That book written by Carolyn Jessop, 'Escape', a girl who escaped the sect with her 8 children, said that a lot of the boys are sent packing at an early age.

If a bunch of adults want to live together, that's their business, but only one marriage for a man and a woman would be legal; the others can be whatever they want to call them.

Raising children communally is weird to me, but as long as the kids are healthy, again, none of my business.

HOWEVER, when children--under the age of consent--are coerced by the adults in their lives to enter into sexual relationships (actually, anyone coerced), that IS my business because as part of a community, I defend the rights of innocents.

re: #59 BlueCanuck

Good morning Les. Don't know if you caught it or not. Remember the new rule of highly effective pirates? There were actually two new rules in the gag. Rule #4 has never been posted either. :)

I didn't catch it. Darn.

Somebody just posted this link -

That has got to be one of the best things I have seen in a LONG time. You must go see this. Sure would make a great thread Charles!

Got to go. Have a great day!

re: #63 The Other Les

Heh, heh. I know. One of my friends has the list and he failed to catch it as well.

re: #64 galloping granny

Somebody just posted this link - [Link: youtube.com...]

That has got to be one of the best things I have seen in a LONG time. You must go see this. Sure would make a great thread Charles!

OMG. I had to watch that before leaving, VERY powerful. And scary.

re: #62 goddessoftheclassroom

If a bunch of adults want to live together, that's their business, but only one marriage for a man and a woman would be legal; the others can be whatever they want to call them.

Raising children communally is weird to me, but as long as the kids are healthy, again, none of my business.

HOWEVER, when children--under the age of consent--are coerced by the adults in their lives to enter into sexual relationships (actually, anyone coerced), that IS my business because as part of a community, I defend the rights of innocents.

But they are only following God's commands, so they claim.

I used to think that God didn't speak to criminals. But upon further thought I would have to say that God does speak to criminals, but the criminals aren't listening.

re: #67 goddessoftheclassroom

OMG. I had to watch that before leaving, VERY powerful. And scary.

re: #69 savage_nation

Man, that is spot on!

Isn't it? Somebody spent a lot of thought & energy on this!

Morning all. 47 degrees in the misty dawn of Chamblee; supposed to get up to 77 today. Beautiful spring day, aside from the pollen. Everybody but me has a cold, so I get to listen to a symphony of sniffling, hacking, coughing, and sneezing.

What's the good word this morning?

re: #64 galloping granny

That was awesome! thanks for sharing.

Gotta go get ready to head out for Boston as soon as I swallow the last of the coffee, but Yale is now saying that the AbortionGirl "really didn't do those things" - she is engaged in "performance art" - and of course the disgusting display will go ahead as planned.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

To invent such a tale as part of a "performance" makes her even more of a lunatic as far as I'm concerned. She is really seriously disturbed.

re: #73 savage_nation

Watch this

Just did. The man is scary, no doubt about it.

I lived in S.California from 1980 to 1992 and now live in Farmington, Mo and a earthquake woke me up this morning...people here on the St. Louis local news channel are freaking out! lol
It was a 5.4, I've been through worse than this one!

re: #78 savage_nation

He sure is. Manchurian Candidate.....

Without the mom.

Morning Liazards. Anything interesting going on?

re: #73 savage_nation

Watch this

Just noticed this down in the comments -

The Cardboard Messiah

they added Obama to the end but I think Cardboard Messiah really is all the name Barrack Hussein Obama needs.

re: #80 Bubblehead II

Morning Liazards. Anything interesting going on?

re: #81 galloping granny

Just noticed this down in the comments -

The Cardboard Messiah

they added Obama to the end but I think Cardboard Messiah really is all the name Barrack Hussein Obama needs.

I like this one:

O wow. Obama has lots of stupid sheep
Yes this country is loaded to the gills with
stupid sheep drunk on Hopium

re: #82 galloping granny

Creepy, but true. When are people going to wake up and realize this guy is dangerous?

re: #81 galloping granny

Too bad buzz isn't around -- cardboard Messiah would be a great title for a song.

re: #84 Bubblehead II

Creepy, but true. When are people going to wake up and realize this guy is dangerous?

Some people never will. Ferraro had it right -- peoplw are willing to make endless excuses for him on account of his skin color. Taranto commented on this in BotW yesterday:

For the first time ever, the Democratic Party seems poised to choose an African-American presidential nominee. As Barack Obama is discovering, politics at the national level entails intense scrutiny and criticism. Predictably, however, some Obama supporters have been accusing his detractors of racism--especially when they criticize his "spiritual mentor," a practitioner of "black liberation theology."

In a Los Angeles Times op-ed piece, one David K. Shipler goes further. He explains how racism supposedly works in post-civil-rights America:

In a country so changed that a biracial man who is considered black has a shot at the presidency, the subterranean biases are much less discernible now than when the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated. They are subtle, unacknowledged and unacceptable in polite company. But they lurk below, lending resonance to the criticisms of Obama. Black professionals know the double standard. They are often labeled negatively for traits deemed positive in whites: A white is assertive, a black is aggressive; a white is resolute, a black is pushy; a white is candid, a black is abrasive; a white is independent, a black is not a team player. Prejudice is a shape shifter, adapting to acceptable forms.

But it also turns out that adjectives are the equivalent of their most offensive synonyms. Thus calling Obama elitist is actually a racial slur:

"Elitist" is another word for "arrogant," which is another word for "uppity," that old calumny applied to blacks who stood up for themselves.

You can see how the Shipler method works. Did you say Obama was inexperienced? "Inexperienced" is another word for "young," and a young male is a boy. You just called Obama "boy," you racist! Here's another example:

Casting Obama as "out of touch" plays harmoniously with the traditional notion of blacks as "others" at the edge of the mainstream, separate from the whole. Despite his ability to articulate the frustration and yearning of broad segments of Americans, his "otherness" has been highlighted effectively by right-wingers who harp on his Kenyan father and spread false rumors that he's a clandestine Muslim.

Wait a minute! Did Shipler just say "articulate"? Granted, he's using it as a verb and not an adjective, but surely he knows that it is invidious to describe a black person as "articulate" because it implies that blacks are usually inarticulate.

The Obama campaign has set in motion a fascinating dynamic. On the one hand, some of his fellow Democrats, especially Bill Clinton, have been willing to attack him in expressly racial terms. On the other hand, we have someone making the case in a semi-major newspaper that adjectives are the white man's tool of oppression and that anyone who modifies Obama is a racist.

BO doesn't belong in the White House, He belongs in the nuthouse.

re: #14 Palandine

The bed was shaking! It was like something out of The Exorcist.

Did you surmount the fear of earthquakes?

re: #87 The Other Les

BO doesn't belong in the White House, He belongs in the nuthouse.

Don't refer to Obamassiah as "BO." That implies he stinks, which implies because he's black he is unclean. Racist!

re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

just woke up. and hung over. and in a hotel. and had a really bad day yesterday. but at least I was not awakened by an earthquake or obama!

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

just woke up. and hung over. and in a hotel. and had a really bad day yesterday. but at least I was not awakened by an earthquake or obama!

The operative question is: other than a hotel, do you know where you are and how you got there?

re: #86 Lucius Septimius
WTF? White people aren't ever called abrasive or pushy?

I hope 3wood shows up- he is near epicenter of the Midwest quake.

re: #91 Lucius Septimius

The operative question is: other than a hotel, do you know where you are and how you got there?

And who you are with?

re: #79 Lucius Septimius

Without the mom.

He doesn't have a mother?

re: #91 Lucius Septimius

The operative question is: other than a hotel, do you know where you are and how you got there?

I said it! In a hotel. Please do not ask city or state. Oh yeah, Beckley WV.

re: #86 Lucius Septimius

Interesting. Orwellian newspeak at its finest.

Well I have to go. Mondays suck, exspecially when they fall on a Friday.

L8R Lizards

Hamas LOVES OBAMA! (There's a wakeup call for you America)

re: #93 Jim in Virginia

And who you are with?

She's so skinny, you can't see her.

Happy rage day...may anger be with them.

re: #94 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He doesn't have a mother?

She passed away - no one to do the Angela Landsbury part.

re: #98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Better hope it's the wife, or you could be in real trouble.

/unless she has a husband then you are doomed.

re: #99 storagemanager

Good morning storage. What's on the seethe list this morning?

/besides the usual

re: #98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

She's so skinny, you can't see her.

I don't like those kind -- too many pointy bits.

re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I said it! In a hotel. Please do not ask city or state. Oh yeah, Beckley WV.

I'm so sorry.

Hmmmmm ... that's odd. The cursor doesn't appear in the comment box.

re: #101 BlueCanuck

Doomed! Doomed I tell you! Can't seem to surmount my feeling of dread of this day.

Hello. I must be going.

re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But you do know how you got there, right?

I hate waking up in a hotel in some other place wondering how I got there.

re: #103 Lucius Septimius

I don't like those kind -- too many pointy bits.

Some pointy bits are nice though.

re: #108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Some pointy bits are nice though.

True, provided they're not too sharp.

re: #107 Lucius Septimius

I used to travel so much more than this. I got to the point where I was like a rock-star. Instead of taped to a microphone, the name of the town I was in was written on a notepad on the nightstand.

Beirut, 25 Years Ago

re: #111 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Thanks for the reminder.

Pakistan Foreign Minister told the Parliament on Friday that no American official has been placed to have access to the country's National Command Authority (NCA).

Local media has reported that the US State Department has sought the accreditation of an official to be posted at the American embassy here with the NCA, the body that controls Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.

"Pakistan will not permit this," Qureshi told the National Assembly, lower house of the parliament.

The opposition lawmaker raised the issued on a `call attention notice' and sought the government response to reports about the placement of a permanent American official at the US embassy in Pakistan to deal with Pakistan's nuclear issues who would have direct access to the National Command Authority.

"Pakistan has received no request in this regard," Qureshi said.

The Foreign Minister said that Pakistan's nuclear program is secure and in safe hands.

He said there is no need of any concern of this nature and Pakistan follows its independent foreign policy

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

re: #109 Lucius Septimius

Yeah, like the elbows. Almost had a puctured lung. :)

re: #113 storagemanager
An official denial. So the story must be true.

re: #115 Jim in Virginia

An official denial. So the story must be true.

Who knows with Pakistan...lies are the policy.

Barack Obama's campaign said yesterday it is "flattered" that Hamas' endorsement of the Illinois senator compared him to John F. Kennedy, though it objects to any diplomatic contact with the terrorist group.

"I like John Kennedy too," said chief Obama strategist David Axelrod. "That's about the only thing we have in common with this gentleman from Hamas. We all agree that John Kennedy was a great president, and it's flattering when anybody says that Barack Obama would follow in his footsteps."

Axelrod was reacting to comments earlier this week from Ahmed Yousuf, Hamas' top political adviser in the Gaza Strip, who said Hamas "hopes" Obama will win the presidential elections and "change" America's foreign policy.

[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

Good morning lizards.
Looks like it's gonna be one fine day.

re: #118 storagemanager

"We all agree that John Kennedy was a great president, and it's flattering when anybody says that Barack Obama would follow in his footsteps"

Axelrod was reacting to comments earlier this week from Ahmed Yousuf, Hamas' top political adviser in the Gaza Strip

Anybody?

re: #120 sparrowlake

Anybody?

He'll never get to do Marilyn.

CROWN POINT, Indiana (AP) - Indiana 55 has reopened after a truckload of human feces spilled onto the roadway in northwestern Indiana's Crown Point.
The driver told police he was hauling treated human feces from a water recycling plant in Portage when the load spilled about 10:30 a.m. Thursday.

The Lake County hazardous materials response team came to clean up the mess, along with the Crown Point Fire Department and Indiana State Police.

The northbound and southbound lanes of the highway were closed during the cleanup.

The Indiana Department of Transportation cited the driver for an unsecured load. [Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Iran, Turkey sign security MOU and if we think we might have developing problems there... There's The New Deal in Pakistan but don't worry, US says terrorists running around free in Pakistan’s Tribal Areas.

Duh...

Video footage of a terrorist training camp in northwestern Pakistan run by the Islamic Jihad Union (IJU). The video shows the production and testing of explosives, and the recruitment of young children as fighters. On May 25, 2005, the U.S. State Department announced the designation of the IJU as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist (SDGT). The IJU is a breakaway faction of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) and was responsible for bombings in July 2004 at the U.S. and Israeli embassies in the Uzbek capital Tashkent. According an official statement from the State Department, "The Islamic Jihad [Union] continues to target Americans and U.S. facilities overseas and is a dangerous threat to U.S. interests."

[Link: counterterrorismblog.org...]

Off to work -- have a great day, ya'll.

BBC Newsnight 18Apr - Abu Izzadeen, Anjem Choudary

I've tried to capture the stream but nothing seems to work. It will only be available for another few hours.

Anjem Choudary sings the usual song, plus new video of Muslim airport security employee describing his policy on checking baggage:

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

re: #122 storagemanager

What a crappy way to start the day.

Well good night lizards. Time for me to go home and curl up on my warm rock. And today it's going to be very warm.

/wooo hooo.

Good Morning Lizards:

Well, another day, another whopper from Slick Willie:

Bill Clinton: No 'Whining' from Hillary

ABC News' Sarah Amos Reports: Former President Bill Clinton says he didn't see his wife "whining" when she's taken some tough political shots on the presidential campaign trail.

"When I watched that debate last night, I got kinda tickled," the former President said at an American Legion Hall event in St. Mary's, Pennsylvania, "After the [debate], her opponents', oh, the people working were saying, 'Oh this is so negative, why are they doing this.' Well they've been beatin' up on her for 15 months. I didn't hear her whining when he said she was untruthful in Iowa or called her the senator from Punjab."

"And, you know, they said some pretty rough things about me, too. But you know, this is a contact sport. If you don't want to play, keep your uniform off," Clinton told a loudly cheering crowd.

This about the same whining woman who complained about being ganged up on by the guys. This about the same woman who complained about being "manhandled" every night by Deocratic party whore/shill/carnival barker Chris Matthews. This about the same woman who blamed all their problems of the "vast right wing conspiracy".

I also found it funny for Slick to talk about taking you uniform off. Mighty odd for a guy known for not keeping his pants on around the office help.

re: #127 rightside

What a crappy way to start the day.

a real bummer

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The new US embassy in Baghdad is finally ready to open, and MSNBC calls it fortress America. It definitely isn't an inviting structure, but that's done on purpose as rules were drawn up after the embassy bombings to make their facilities more secure against various kinds of attacks.

The aesthetic principles are secondary to security measures.

And Zawahiri has emerged from his cave to once again declare that the US has lost Iraq and that Iraq is the most important battleground. Well, he's batting .500. He's wrong about the US losing Iraq - the only ones losing are al Qaeda and their fellow jihadis who can't get rid of US forces and who have seen the local population turn against the jihadis precisely because of suicide bombings and violence against fellow Muslims. He is right that Iraq is the central battlefield - because if al Qaeda can't win there, they can't win anywhere.

It's because of this that the spike in suicide bombings, a possible attempt to recreate Tet, will fail, not because of media coverage which generally spikes as the violence does, but because the locals have seen what the jihadis have done and will not tolerate the violence any longer. This may also be the death throes of the jihadis in Iraq - where the remnants are pushed to desperate measures to maintain any relevance at all.

The spike in suicide bombings also appears to show that Zawahiri isn't exactly able to provide leadership over the Iraqi al Qaeda contingent because it wasn't long ago that Zawahiri said that the suicide bombing missions were becoming counterproductive, which is evident because the Sunni Awakening would not have happened if al Qaeda had not started attacking Sunnis who were formerly open to the idea of working with al Qaeda for not being sufficiently Islamist enough.

re: #4 obscured by clouds

I was just awoken by an earthquake, here in Louisville, Kentucky. About half an hour ago. 5.2 on the richter. It was apparently the New Madrid Fault.

Some years back I read an article by a seismologist, claiming that, the potential destruction from the New Madrid fault was greater than the San Andreas.
I don't know if he is a majority of one.
Anyone see it?Oh , And Good Morning.

She should lay on the floor, and see how many people walk on her...

...better turn yourself around...

This is WLGF

re: #130 sparrowlake
damn near wrecked 'em

re: #120 sparrowlake

Anybody?

I have concluded that Kennedy was actually a weak President. Once you put charisma aside, you see that his foeign policy was mostly inept and he was viewed as a light-weight by Congress, almost incapable of getting any legislation through.

Babba what up?

re: #122 storagemanager

Somehow, that happening in Indiana does not surprise me.

re: #137 storagemanager

{Storage}

Not me
lol

3wood, tell us about the quake in your neck of the woods.
Kennedy only became a god because he was assassinated. There's no way to tell what he would have done or how history would judge him had he lived. That's not a very appealing role model.

re: #139 BabbaZee
This might perk you up.......

Gadhafi further stated "...given that we are both producers of gas and oil, we will work together to defend our interests."

Energy deals and proposals featured prominently during Putin's visit. Libya is believed to hold the largest oil reserves in Africa, having also the fourth largest reserves of natural gas.

Reportedly, Gadhafi told Putin that he favors the idea of a gas OPEC, a notion that Russia appears to share with Iran and Venezuela, and which one day may do to the liquefied natural gas (LNG) market what OPEC has done to oil. Furthermore, the two leaders discussed cooperation in the field of nuclear energy. Policy makers in Washington are fuming and biting their nails – "bad Vlad" is apparently outfoxing them yet again.

[Link: www.metimes.com...]

re: #129 3 wood

"I didn't hear her whining when he said she was untruthful in Iowa or called her the senator from Punjab"

This about the same woman who blamed all their problems of the "vast right wing conspiracy

It depends on how you define "whine".

Good morning lizard...

re: #134 BabbaZee

When you've got a bad reputation, you can do anything you want to.

MORNIN
BABS,
R

re: #111 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Beirut, 25 Years Ago

What do you think the odds are, that someone in the comments will blame Bush?

re: #143 doriangrey

Which one? LOL

re: #144 Render

When you've got a bad reputation, you can do anything you want to.

MORNIN
BABS,
R

A ha HA!
{Render}

Damn Straight!

;~}

re: #141 storagemanager

Enter the King of the North....

/Good thing I know the playbook, or I'd be flipping out about now.

NEW YORK (EJP)---In an annual rite of spring, white supremacist and neo-Nazi groups across the United States are planning to hold events to commemorate the April 20 birthday of Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), a Jewish group fighting anti-semitism in the world, said.

Many of the planned Hitler birthday gatherings coincide with the start of the Jewish holiday of Passover, which begins on April 19, ADL added.

Will GOV cover it? [Link: www.ejpress.org...]

re: #146 rightside

Which one? LOL

The cute one of course..............lol...lol...lol...

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, Lizards! &#9836 &#9834

It's 52°F going all the way up to 75°F for this afternoon under clear, sparkly and sunny skies.

Yes!

:D

What snoo?

Oh, this is funny.

Mugage now blames Britian for Zimbabwe's problems:

Mugabe denounces Britain in post-poll speech

HARARE (Reuters) - Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe bitterly attacked former colonial ruler Britain on Friday in his first major speech since disputed elections, saying London was paying the population to turn against him.

Mugabe, 84, told 15,000 cheering supporters in a fiery address to mark independence day: "Down with the British. Down with thieves who want to steal our country."

In a stream of insults against Britain, Mugabe added: "Today they are like thieves fronting their lackeys among us, which they give money to confuse our people."

This from the guy who destroyed his country by stealing farms and other assets from productive people and doled them out to his buddies. This from the guy who promised free healthcare and education to everybody (sound familiar?) and then printed money to pay for it, thus causing 100,000% a year inflation.

Hey Mugabe, who you crapping?

re: #148 BabbaZee

Enter the King of the North....

/Good thing I know the playbook, or I'd be flipping out about now.

Dont be afraid and do not fear...

re: #152 3 wood

Hey Mugabe, who you crapping?

Someone with ovarian fortitude

Don't eat at McDonald's on South West Marine Drive in Vancouver.

Listen. I love McDonald's, both for their food and for what they stand for philosophically. I thought that Super Size Me was a piece of anti-capitalist, anti-beef propaganda.

But when you're in Vancouver, skip the McDonald's on Marine Drive.

That's because the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal has ruled that one of the employees there has a human right not to wash her hands when working in their kitchen.

[Link: www.newenglishreview.org...]

re: #140 Jim in Virginia

3wood, tell us about the quake in your neck of the woods.

I slept through it. First I knew of the quake was when I got up this morning and heard about it in the radio. Once I go to sleep, I'm out like I got pole-axed.

re: #132 opnion

Morning, Lizards.

I woke up about 0530 here in beautiful downtown Lancaster, OH (SE of the state capital, recently renamed Co-Dum-bus), because the house definitely vibrated a bit.

Of course, at that moment, an 18-wheeler on the street outside was engaged in a serious braking maneuver due to an idiot with a loud exhaust who apparently darted out of the local stop n' go right in front of him.

So I'm not sure it was the 5.4 that was responsible.

cheers

eon

Police have carried out a controlled explosion this morning after a man was arrested under the Terrorism Act.

A spokesman for Avon and Somerset police said about 30 people were evacuated from their homes in Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol, at around 2am.

A 19-year-old from the area was yesterday arrested in connection with the investigation, which also involved Scotland Yard's Counter Terrorism Command.

He is now being questioned at an undisclosed police station.

Officers would not reveal what sort of materials were blown up but said they had now been sent off for analysis

[Link: www.newenglishreview.org...]

re: #153 doriangrey

I have zero fear... I have total access to the script.... to the shield and to the sword.... but a hard rain's gonna fall nevertheless.

{Dorian}

re: #155 rightside

Someone with ovarian fortitude

Huzzah and a half

re: #157 3 wood

I slept through it. First I knew of the quake was when I got up this morning and heard about it in the radio. Once I go to sleep, I'm out like I got pole-axed.

What quake? I am out of it....

re: #154 BabbaZee

Good Morning Babba, Sparrow, and Jim.

TGIF

My standard for Friday morning

Friday, I'm in Love
The Cure

And I'll tell it
and think it
and speak it
and breathe it,
And reflect it from the mountain
so all souls can see it,
Then I'll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin',
But I'll know my song well before I start singin',
And it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard,
It's a hard rain's a-gonna fall.

re: #160 BabbaZee

I have zero fear... I have total access to the script.... to the shield and to the sword.... but a hard rain's gonna fall nevertheless.

{Dorian}

(BabbaZee) good to know you are keeping watch....

{alla yez}

re: #132 opnion

The New Madrid faultline potentially affects a far greater number of people than a quake along the San Andreas - a much larger geographic area would be hit by a quake on the New Madrid fault than one on the CA faults.

It's quite possible that also takes into account that buildings in the New Madrid fault aren't quite as quake tolerant as they should be - again contributing to potential harm.

re: #152 3 wood

Well, Sarkozy blames global warming for the situation in Darfur...

re: #134 BabbaZee

Good morning Babba.
Enjoy this sunny day.

'Non-Muslim' father banned from London pool

"A father has described his anger after he and his son were refused entry to their local swimming pool because they weren't Muslims.
...
“I arrived at the pool to discover that they were holding what staff described to me as 'Muslim men-only swimming’,” he said."

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

So much for the bail-bond system: Terror absconder hands himself in. From the piece: The guilty men were all members of an extreme Islamist group known as Al-Muhajiroun. It has since been banned. I'd suggest banning all organizations that start with "Al", except maybe AlAnon.

re: #170 sparrowlake

{sparrow}

Why thank you!

Excuse me, while I link this thing.

re: #162 BabbaZee

Hey Babba, thought you might like this.

Here is the latest tune I'm working on, called Elk River Blues.

I learned it from appalachain musician Don Pedi of near Asheville, who actually learned it straight from the fiddle player of originated it, the late Ernie Carpenter.

re: #175 3 wood

I always love me some yidl mitn fidl

"No, no this isn't a travesty! "
"What do you mean?"
" From now on, if any muslim complains about bias we can point to the day we threw the jewish guy off of a plane"
" Hmm, diversity. I like it."

How does this kind of thing happen?

re: #177 Peacekeeper

"No, no this isn't a travesty! "
"What do you mean?"
" From now on, if any muslim complains about bias we can point to the day we threw the jewish guy off of a plane"
" Hmm, diversity. I like it."

I wonder if that was done purposefully on his part to make a point

re: #178 rightside

How does this kind of thing happen?

Morning rightside, cliffs notes for those of us without Rush accounts?

re: #164 exlnghrn

Just an FYI:

Posting phone #'s is verboten here
you can post a link to where the number is but don't post the # directly here

re: #180 doriangrey

My apologies...didn't realize that..let me find another link for y'all.

A deputy from the Justice and Development Party (AK Party) has submitted a proposal to Parliament to return May Day to its status as an official holiday in Turkey, not held since the military coup of 1980...................

Kafkas stressed that May 1 is an important date for the international workers’ movement. However, he said in Turkey, due to past conflicts that have arisen on May Day, it is seen by many as a day of conflict, sadness and blood. The deputy noted that rights are not brought to people on a platter anywhere in the world, adding that rights can only be obtained by persistence and joint struggle

[Link: www.todayszaman.com...]

re: #160 BabbaZee

If it be a hard rain....

Oops, sorry, when I cut and pasted the story, the reporter's name and number was included.

re: #181 BabbaZee

Papyrus becoming even more obsolete:

TOKYO - Bend it, write on it, read it — just don't try to fold it into a paper plane. Electronic paper is Japan's answer to rising raw material costs, depleted resources and booming demand for printed matter from emerging markets such as China and India.

Try this

re: #184 Endangered in MASS

Very very good, love it....
BTW
Have you seen No Direction Home?

Iranian police will confront women in private offices, or even socialising in cafes, whose dress is deemed improper, as part of a continued morality crackdown, Tehran’s police chief said today. (Sapa-AFP via WUNRN)

Police have been enforcing the crackdown for the past year and its morality patrol officers have handed tens of thousands of warnings to women on Tehran’s streets.

Including offices and cafes - which so far have not been targeted - would mark a major expansion of the drive.
“As part of the campaign to increase security in society, the police in the capital will soon act against bad veiling in private companies, cafes, internet cafes and restaurants,” Commander Ahmad Reza Radan said.

“The police will deal strictly against those who do not respect the law,” he said, according to the Mehr news agency.

He added that police would also be acting against “satan-worshipping” groups but did not give further details.

The length and severity of the crackdown has been unprecedented in the Islamic republic in recent years. Vans of the moral police are still a common sight in Tehran’s main squares as officials monitor

[Link: www.wluml.org...]

re: #185 exlnghrn

Oops, sorry, when I cut and pasted the story, the reporter's name and number was included.

Yea I figured as much. It'll probably get deleted so you might wanna repost without the # & e mail addy in a few minutes

re: #188 BabbaZee

What is this No Direction Home that you speak of?

Ok, reposted WITHOUT the reporter's info....

Man found in Lady Bird Lake was teacher, FBI target
Police said that victim, who taught at a Southwest Austin middle school, may have committed suicide.
By Tony Plohetski, Sue Banerjee

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

Friday, April 18, 2008

Austin police said Thursday that they are leaning toward a ruling of suicide in the death of a middle school teacher and activist whose body was found Wednesday in Lady Bird Lake with his hands and legs bound and tape over his eyes.

Police identified Riad Hamad, 55, at a news conference Thursday and said the binding of his limbs and the placement of the tape was consistent with Hamad having done it himself.

Austin police homicide Sgt. Joe Chacon said family members told investigators that the Clint Small Jr. Middle School teacher had "several stressors" in his life and had talked about possibly killing himself. Police said that they think Hamad walked from his car to the lake, based on evidence they gathered at the scene.

"The car was found on the south shoreline with no signs of mysterious activity," Chacon said.

Police said that they found Hamad's car along Lady Bird Lake on Tuesday and searched but did not find him.

Joggers found Hamad's body about 2 p.m. Wednesday near Comal Street and Nash Hernandez Sr. Road. Investigators said they found no signs of trauma or a struggle.

Debbie Russell, president of the local American Civil Liberties Union chapter, sent an e-mail Thursday to dozens of activists throughout the city saying that Hamad's death had been ruled a homicide. Russell said in a later interview that she wrote that e-mail after she thought she had heard media reports that Hamad had been killed.

She said in the e-mail that Hamad had recently been under investigation by the FBI — federal officials confirmed the investigation — and described him as "NOT a terrorist but a peaceworker." Hamad was serving as an official for the Austin chapter of the Palestine Children's Welfare Fund.

FBI spokesman Erik Vasys said that Hamad had been a "person of interest" in a criminal investigation but that he could not elaborate.

Austin police said Hamad's family reported him missing Monday. Family members released a statement Thursday saying that he disappeared after going to pick up a prescription at a local pharmacy.

Hamad's body was taken to the Travis County medical examiner's office for an autopsy. The office did not respond to an open records request Thursday for information about the case and would not confirm that Hamad's body was there.

According to the family's statement, which was released through an attorney, Hamad was a University of Texas graduate and had taught in the Austin school district for a decade.

The family's statement described him as a "peace activist who worked tirelessly on behalf of those less fortunate than him and was loved and admired by many members of the local, as well as international community."

"Mr. Hamad's family and friends are obviously devastated over their loss," the statement said.

Hamad had taught at Austin Community College but was fired in June 1998 after officials said he violated the school's nondiscrimination policy by making "sexist and off-colored jokes" in class, school officials said.

Small Middle School Principal Sheila Anderson sent a letter to parents at the Southwest Austin school Thursday informing them of Hamad's death and saying that grief counselors were available for students and teachers.

"Mr. Hamad was a longtime and valued member of the Small Middle School faculty, and his love and passion for education touched us all," Anderson said in the letter.

These are the only scientists in history who have consistently espoused an it-can't-be-done attitude. Politics has nothing to do with it of course, it's just that they know it's impossible.

“The program offers no prospect of defending the United States from a real-world missile attack and undermines efforts to eliminate the real nuclear threats to the United States,” Lisbeth Gronlund, a senior scientist at the Union of Concerned Scientists, told lawmakers at a House oversight hearing on the missile defense program, according to prepared testimony. Gronlund’s group has long expressed skepticism about missile defense.

re: #191 Endangered in MASS

No Direction Home

re: #187 rightside

Try this

Hmmm, that's a bit odd, god forbid however that doctors and nurses have a sense of humor...

Armed with a fool's courage, we are playing the waiting game. If the AKP doesn't change its attitude, the red button will be pushed and the “destruct Turkey strategy” will take over.

[Link: www.turkishdailynews.com.tr...]

Netanyahu Says Any Abbas-Olmert Agreement Will be Voided

re: #194 BabbaZee

No Direction Home

Get on the train baby....

A man in an asylum center was attacked by his 23 year old neighbor for having alcohol in his fridge. The two men shared a kitchen in one of the immigration service's houses in Halmstad. One day when the victim came home from work, his neighbor broke into his room and attacked him with a knife. "You are not a proper Muslim. I will kill you," he threatened.

The reason was that the man - also a Muslim - had some beer in the fridge. The man fled from the apartment, and when he came back he found his room vandalized and destroyed with detergent.

To the court the 23 year old declared that he wanted to clean away the evil from the room.

Good Muslims kill... [Link: islamineurope.blogspot.com...]

re: #197 BabbaZee

Ehud? Ehud Omelet?

Afghanistan: Muslim so Full of Islam he Explodes Upon Entering Mosque....

Sadly killing 15.... [Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

re: #193 Peacekeeper

Isn't the Union of Concerned Scientists the group that's been reflexively hostile to everything from nuclear power to drilling in ANWR, as well?

And aren't they the ones who used to have the spokesman with the goatee who was constantly on TV railing against everything, claiming to be an expert on everything, but who could never adequately explain exactly what he had a Ph.D in?

cheers

eon

re: #200 Peacekeeper

Ehud? Ehud Omelet?

Sometimes ya gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet

re: #199 storagemanager

To the court the 23 year old declared that he wanted to clean away the evil from the room.

What do you use on evil? It leaves some tough stains.

re: #198 doriangrey

Get on the train baby....

Hirsute!

re: #203 BabbaZee

Homer mode-on, "Mmmmmmmmm! Omelet..........."

Barry Obama Is whining & whining. He & his campaign do not like the way that he was questioned in the debate. Wuss!
He in the past has described himself as, you ready, "A hardened street fighter of rough & tumble Chicago politics"Honest to God!
Street fighter ? Puuuleze .he was a gofer for Jessee Jackson & then Emile Jones in the Illiinois Senate.
Yo Barry , your parents did not meet at the Selma march& trust me if you locked me in a room for a week to try to describe you, I would not think of "street fighter"

"Gaza Arabs starved to death by Israel" -- Jimmah in Egypt

re: #198 doriangrey

Get on the train baby....

Just stay off this train....

Once again, Hizbullah is busy trying to undermine the Lebanese government. They think they're above the law - and with their large number of terror minions - they have managed to carve out no-go areas. That would include South Beirut (to say nothing of South Lebanon) - despite the UN resolutions calling for their disarmament.

re: #206 BulgarWheat

Homer mode-on

re: #207 opnion

Agreed.

Now, "narcissistic immature god-wannabee" has a nice ring to it, in his case.

cheers

eon

re: #176 BabbaZee

I like it.

Don't understand a word of it (much like listening to my teeanger talk), but I like it.

re: #202 eon

And aren't they the ones who used to have the spokesman with the goatee who was constantly on TV railing against everything, claiming to be an expert on everything, but who could never adequately explain exactly what he had a Ph.D in?

For some, it really does stand for Piled Higher and Deeper...

re: #211 BabbaZee

ROTFLMAO.............Wrong Homer..... DOH..........

re: #207 opnion

I hate to say it, and I'm not proud of it, but Barry was the little kid at school I used to take lunch money from. Still is.

re: #210 lawhawk

despite the UN resolutions calling for their disarmament

LOLOLOLOLOLOL
ahh ya killin' me !

Beware the strongly worded letter
followed immediately by the comfy chair!

wink wink
nudge
nudge
say no more

Good Morning y'all - from a pleasant (54 degrees, going up to 82 degrees), bright and sunny Charlotte!

How is everyone this fine morning?

re: #215 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO.............Wrong Homer..... DOH..........

;~}

re: #202 eon

Yeah. Imagine these guys if they had been around longer:

" that so called aeroplane cannot fly, this research can only destablize the battleship owning nations"

"a vaccine for Polio? Rubbish! What would happen to our crutch industry?"

" Manhattan Project? What will Hitler say when he hears about it?"

"Jet engine? nice gadget but you can't build a plane without propellers."

re: #212 eon

Agreed.

Now, "narcissistic immature god-wannabee" has a nice ring to it, in his case.

cheers

eon

"god-wannabee",That my friend is beautiful word smithing.

re: #218 realwest

Good Morning y'all - from a pleasant (54 degrees, going up to 82 degrees), bright and sunny Charlotte!

How is everyone this fine morning?

Morning realwest.......Hope you are feeling well this morning.......

re: #218 realwest

howdy real!

The left pimping of the Global Warming hoax never ceases. This month Time Magazine Takes its share of the pimp pie, and trivializes Iwo Jima in the bargain. This is why I haven't opened a copy of Time since I was in high school, and that was a while ago....

Awful quiet _{...iet ...iet ...iet}

in here today ...

re: #224 maddogg

I saw that. Despicable, just despicable

re: #218 realwest

Fine.

How's Mom doing?

re: #222 doriangrey Good morning dorain! Yeah, I'm feeling ok today, hows about yourself?

re: #216 BulgarWheat

I hate to say it, and I'm not proud of it, but Barry was the little kid at school I used to take lunch money from. Still is.

And that could actually be part of the problem with him.
He always sounds silly when he plays the macho card.

re: #214 christheprofessor

For some, it really does stand for Piled Higher and Deeper...

I had a few like that in college.

My favorite was the Stochastic Logic prof (a replacement after the department head had to bow out due to major surgery), who said that "Logic has no application to reality".

My response was, "I'm sure that will come as a hellish surprise to Aristotle."

He didn't get it.

cheers

eon

Well off to the salt mine with this Lizard for one more day this week........Got to call the insurance adjuster today, seems they are finally starting to get ready to fix my poor vette.......After only seven months.....

re: #229 opnion

kinda like Michael Jackson with his song "Bad"

used to laugh my ass off at that one!

still do.

I guess Iran is next...maybe they will keep him...........

.After meeting with leaders of the anti-Semitic Hamas terrorist organization in Cairo Jimmy Carter traveled to Syria today to meet with the leader of Hamas.
The AP reported:

Jimmy Carter has arrived in Syria where he is due to meet the political leader of the militant Palestinian Hamas group.

The former U.S. president's visit comes a day after he met several Hamas leaders in Egypt and said he had asked them to stop rocket attacks into Israel.

Carter also is scheduled to meet Friday with Syrian President Bashar Assad before holding talks with Hamas' exiled political chief Khaled Mashaal. He also plans to meet with Syrian businessmen.

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

re: #213 3 wood

Naturally, what's not to like?

re: #223 BulgarWheat
Hey howdy pardner! How are you and the mini-wheats doing this fine day? Is it as purty up by you as it is down here?

re: #208 BabbaZee

That's not the worst of Jimmy's latest offenses. His very meeting with Hamas is. It's an affront to everyone who has suffered at the hands of Hamas terrorists, including many Americans. Carter is an affront to anyone who knows that Hamas is a group that needs to be put down like a rabid dog, not negotiated with.

They are not a group that will make concessions or negotiate in good faith. Carter is a useful idiot for Hamas, especially when he opens his yapper and starts spouting Palestinian propaganda.

There's also Carter's comments about Israel killing 30-40 Palestinians for every Israeli killed - as though it's a disproportionate response. Sorry, but in war, there's no such thing as disproportionate force. You use the force needed to bring victory - and even there, Israel has pulled its punches.

There isn't a problem with obtaining food in Gaza - and whatever issues there are can be solved by Hamas taking less of its customary cut of whatever comes into Gaza. In fact, Gaza's woes can be solved by getting rid of Hamas altogether, but all too many Gazans support what Hamas is doing.

More here.

YO BABBA!

re: #218 realwest

Morning real! Doing great for Friday. You?

re: #235 realwest

real, it's flat-out gaaaaaaageous here in Raleigh.

the mini-wheats are all doing fine.

re: #228 realwest

Good morning dorain! Yeah, I'm feeling ok today, hows about yourself?

Actually feeling optimistic today, the insurance company finally wants to send an adjuster out to estimate what it's going to cost to fix my Corvette. It's only taken them seven months to get this far, hell they might even get around to fixing it by next year...

re: #232 BulgarWheat

kinda like Michael Jackson with his song "Bad"

used to laugh my ass off at that one!

still do.

Yeah & that song "Billie Jean" ,hell I knew he didn't do her.

re: #225 Miss Trixie
ah, good morning gorgeous *smooch* - I hope you're well today and have plenty of sinshine up there in the frozen north! LOL!
You and Lil Miss ready to go out and terrorize the 'hood?!

Opps damn it got to run....

re: #194 BabbaZee

It's coming back to me....

There is a place in music history for those that booed Electric Bob. Next door ,in world history, is Neville Chamberlain,Margaret Sanger,and Al Gore.

re: #241 opnion

well, maybe he, um, you know, watched or something.

GACK!

Babba - breaking a few eggs? Try these ones.

{realwest} *smooooooch* Good morning, luv. If I was any finer I'd be twins! How about your very own self? Your mom ok?

Babba
there is only one Homer and Matt Groening is his prophet.

re: #224 maddogg
hoax never ceases Speaking of hoaxes, John McCain has mentioned his vice president running mate might be Mitt Romney. His campaign mentions it might be Mitt Romney.
Then all of a sudden a 16 year old unidentified girl at a polygamist ranch calls Texas authorities and says she is being abuse by a man that lives in Colorado city who says he has never been to the ranch.. Hmmmmm.

With all this bad religion news running the fiber optic wires how could John McCain pick Romney for a running mate?

democrat jihad.

re: #230 eon

I was fortunate in that I had very few moonbat profs in college. That said, I've worked with a moonbuttload of 'em since then...

re: #227 3 wood Glad to hear my friend; Mom is doing ok today, thanks kindly for asking!
Hey are you and yours ok? Fox just announce an earthquake somewhere near Louisville. Ky., and said it was felt all around Wisconsin, Illinois, Ohio and Indiana!?

re: #247 Peacekeeper

PK, you just picked up the first Fatwa of the day.

re: #247 Peacekeeper

Babba
there is only one Homer and Matt Groening is his prophet.

I don't know, Homer is just hard to describe.Ya know he gives me hope & ya know he wants change. And most of all, he makes my leg tingle. Doh!

re: #232 BulgarWheat Yeah, but ya know that was a helluva song to dance to - and Billie Jean!

Bulgarity ~

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

YO REAL !

re: #220 Peacekeeper

Yeah. Imagine these guys if they had been around longer:

" that so called aeroplane cannot fly, this research can only destablize the battleship owning nations"

"a vaccine for Polio? Rubbish! What would happen to our crutch industry?"

" Manhattan Project? What will Hitler say when he hears about it?"

"Jet engine? nice gadget but you can't build a plane without propellers."

In the manuscript of Modern Arms and Free Men (1949) , Vannevar Bush predicted that it would be at least twenty years before the USSR had an atom bomb.

The "Joe One" blast went off while the book was in galleys. To say that it was revised hastily would be an understatement.

And of course, there was the New York Times editorial commenting that an advocate of putting an unmanned rocket probe on the Moon was an idiot because "everyone knows" that rockets can't work in space because they require air to "push against". They went on to say that, "the author of this pamphlet seems to lack the knowledge ladled out every day in our public schools."

The year was 1927. The author in question, of a Smithsonian pamphlet titled A Method of Reaching Extreme Altitudes, was Dr. Robert H. Goddard.

By the way, the Grey Lady did print a retraction. On 21 July, 1969, the day Armstrong and Aldrin landed on the Moon.

cheers

eon

re: #235 realwest

re: #239 BulgarWheat

Clear blue skies here on the coast. I see a long walk in the park with the puppy, and a longer ride on the motorcycle on the horizon...

re: #203 BabbaZee

oooh it's Dylan Friday....

I love the Violin in that one

re: #238 rightside Same here rightside. I am, however, hoping that WLGF will play "BillieJean" by MJ although that is not a hint! lol!

re: #236 lawhawk

Amen.
I do not say much on this subject because my thoughts are not postable here
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re: #248 ibmkeyboard

That group in Texas had long been disowned by the Official Mormon Church, I believe. I don't think Mitt will suffer for it. They were a cult more than any religious group. Did you notice how all the women wear the same dress? Made me think of the burqa.

So, the question is: Does a cult resemble Islam, or is Islam a cult?

/rhetorical question, we already know the answer.

re: #250 realwest

now i know why my insurance co. dropped my earthquake policy 2 years ago..hmmmmmm

re: #257 Endangered in MASS

I do too

re: #246 Miss Trixie

cute lol

re: #258 realwest

Here's a story to get your blood working early Real, Time is going the Bimbo Limbo here I guess.

[Link: www.businessandmedia.org...]

re: #254 BabbaZee Hey {Babba} love Weird Al! Not as much as "BillieJean"" by MJ, but still pretty damn good! LOL!

re: #244 Endangered in MASS

He was no ones political musical spiritual literary or any other wise lap dog
and they hated him for it
he belonged to no ~ isms political or religious
he belongs to GOD

I love him in the same sort of way that I love Blake

"The philosophy of the Islamic political system's existences, briefly speaking, is that the world Muslims must be the strongest nation in the world, to an extent that no power would be able of defeating them."
He added, "All the same, such a great power is not permitted to oppress any other nation the slightest bit."
Jannati said, "In not too remote a future, we need to achieve a status that our armed forces would be more competent than the entire armies in the world and their military equipment would be the strongest possible, so that no one would even dream of violating the territorial integrity of the Islamic Republic."
He emphasized, "We need to be able to safeguard not only the territory of the Islamic Republic, but also the rights of the entire oppressed Muslims throughout the world, and to let the world Muslims know they have a strong supporter behind them."

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

re: #248 ibmkeyboard

Amazing, I was just thinking the same thing.