jimmah carter, the shit-heeled cur from plains, ga.

Idiot.

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I'd like to say what I wish would happen to Jimmuh, but I'll refrain.

/if you can't say anything nice...

/don't want the stick, either

The publicity put out by his detractors made him more determined to pursue a different way with Hamas.

The only acceptable "different way" would be the way home.

re: #6 MandyManners

The only acceptable "different way" would be the way home.

No, some of us would prefer that he not return, either.

re: #1 BulgarWheat

jimmah carter, the shit-heeled cur from plains, ga.

Watch it. Curs will sue you for libel.

In a pathetically transparent attempt at belated damage control, the spin being put on Jimmy Carter’s visit to Syria to hang out with genocidal terrorist thugs is that he’s trying to get Hamas to release kidnapped Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit:

Swap Jimmuh for the brave soldier? DO IT!

re: #7 JamesTKirk

No, some of us would prefer that he not return, either.

I wish he would just fade away.

Big surprise there. Jimmy Carter is the worst excuse for a president this country has ever had, past or present, and he's desperately trying to get himself some Leftists relevance before he kicks the bucket.

He wants a legacy. Unfortunately, the legacy he wants glorifies genocidal maniacs and dictators.

The sooner he realizes the horrible damage he's done, to the US and to his reputation, the better. But I won't hold my breath.

I have an idea.
Let's trade him for Shalit.

jimmy was the worst prez IN and OUT of office, bar none!

Jimmah keeps reaching for new lows, and achieving them.
He is by far and away the most vile faux diplomat ever foisted upon the US.

re: #11 American_Infidel_Dog

Big surprise there. Jimmy Carter is the worst excuse for a president this country has ever had, past or present, and he's desperately trying to get himself some Leftists relevance before he kicks the bucket.

He wants a legacy. Unfortunately, the legacy he wants glorifies genocidal maniacs and dictators.

The sooner he realizes the horrible damage he's done, to the US and to his reputation, the better. But I won't hold my breath.

Even if he realizes it, he will never admit it.

We can't say that he's the Twelfth Cylon.

A real martyr's complex that poor boy has. "I'm sweetly suffering! I'm sweetly suffering!"

/because detractors keep pointing out what a disgraceful POS he is.

re: #12 Kosh's Shadow

GMTA, Kosh!

re: #16 The Other Les

We can't say that he's the Twelfth Cylon.

[Link: www.theslackerz.com...]

Previous efforts to broker a prisoner exchange deal between Hamas and Israel involving the soldier, who was captured by Palestinian fighters in a 2006 raid on Israeli territory, have floundered.

"Floundered"?! How incredibly insulting. More like straight up ignored.

HEADLINE

DAMASCUS--- Chinless Ophthalmologist meets Brainless Peanut farmer.

I would like to send a plane to bring Carter home out of courtesy to his age and in consideration of his contributions to humanity. I happen to have a old British " de Havilland Comet" available. Come on Jimmy get on board!

drop the 'president', substitute it with 'person'.

He is, simply, the worst. How about this.

re: #15 MandyManners

Good point. Leftists NEVER admit when they are wrong, because right and wrong don't exist for them.

It's too discriminatory to even consider that there is a "right" and "wrong" in the world!

When Jimmah was President, I thought he was a generally decent and honorable, well-intentioned man with a slew of bad ideas. I was quite young and idealistic then.

Now, I'm older and wiser. Now, I think he's just friggin' CRAZY.

Wait, maybe Jimmy smuggled some poison into the meeting and slipped it into their tea.

Secret agent Jimmy!

Don't judge a book by its cover.

☪ Jimmah ☪

It's time that we write to our Senators and Members of the House and ask them to write and and pass to rename the USS JIMMY CARTER to the something else.

Any suggestions?

Guys sorry to go OT so soon but this was posted at the end of the last thread and I think it is important.

re: #862 taxfreekiller

OT
But an important OT.

Be part of the solution.
Fight the loon Democrats in the House and Senate.

Nancy is doing all she can to keep the Save Act by Heath Schuller from reaching the 218 votes needed in the House to by pass the committee she has set up to kill it, so help Roy Beck and numbers U.S.A. get it past her.

[Link: [Link: www.numbersusa.com...]...]
fax, e-mail, call,
all the help you need is there

"Its your country and you can take it back from the loons"
all you have to do is act, and ask others to act

thank you from U.S.A.

That is a great site. Last summer I think I sent 100 faxes and e-mails to my reps. Called a few time as well. Folks, please click on the link (or save it for later) and check this site out. IT WORKED re the immigration deal they were trying to cram down our throats last summer.

When he returns, divert his flight to Gitmo (they do have a runway that'll handle commercial aircraft there), and kick his ass down the stairway.

re: #31 The Other Les

It's time that we write to our Senators and Members of the House and ask them to write and and pass to rename the USS JIMMY CARTER to the something else.

Any suggestions?

How about the USS ERIC CARTMAN?

He is optimistic that the meeting will advance efforts to end the soldier’s saga

These f*ckers would probably release Gilad just to make jhimmi look good- if the poor man's still alive, that is.

re: #27 American_Infidel_Dog

Good point. Leftists NEVER admit when they are wrong, because right and wrong don't exist for them.

It's too discriminatory to even consider that there is a "right" and "wrong" in the world!

...except for Republicans. Concepts like "wrong" and "evil", which don't exist in the world otherwise, are continually applied to Republicans.

Fu*ken Tool!

Previous efforts to broker a prisoner exchange deal between Hamas and Israel involving the soldier, who was captured by Palestinian fighters in a 2006 raid on Israeli territory, have floundered.

Jimmy's just one helicoptor away this time, too.

It's been said many times before. Revoke his passport or try him for sedition. Undermining the foreign policy of the government is not a trivial matter and this should not be tolerated, regardless of (and especially due to) his former office. He lends credibility where none should exist, encourages enemy combatants and nation-states and threatens the security of our allies.

Prison, now. I am quite serious.

re: #34 Alouette

How about the USS ERIC CARTMAN?

Respect mah authoriteh!

re: #27 American_Infidel_Dog

Good point. Leftists NEVER admit when they are wrong, because right and wrong don't exist for them.

It's too discriminatory to even consider that there is a "right" and "wrong" in the world!

For the left- evil is the victim of Good.

re: #38 chinesearithmetic

Previous efforts to broker a prisoner exchange deal between Hamas and Israel involving the soldier, who was captured by Palestinian fighters in a 2006 raid on Israeli territory, have floundered.

Jimmy's just one helicoptor away this time, too.

Jimmy has always been "one helicopter short of a rescue", if you know what I mean.

I think this cartoon sums up Jimmah pretty well.

(Courtesy of Cox and Forkum)

re: #27 American_Infidel_Dog

Good point. Leftists NEVER admit when they are wrong, because right and wrong don't exist for them.

It's too discriminatory to even consider that there is a "right" and "wrong" in the world!

Perpetual toddlerhood.

re: #19 JamesTKirk

[Link: www.theslackerz.com...]

I recall that when the MIAMI VICE movie was being made that the producers ask EJO to reprise his role from the series. He responded by sending them a tape of himself glaring at the camera on a loop for twenty minutes.

Where's a rabbit when you need one!

I'm reminded of a scene from the Andy Griffith Show where Andy looks at Opie, shakes his head sadly, and says, "And to think that I was actually happy when you learned to talk."

BBL

re: #8 MandyManners

hmmm? good point.

re: #36 JamesTKirk

...except for Republicans. Concepts like "wrong" and "evil", which don't exist in the world otherwise, are continually applied to Republicans.

...as well as to anyone that doesn't agree with them. After all, they are (in their own deranged minds) the force for right and justice in this world, and if we disagree with them, we disagree with that which is right and just, and therefore MUST be evil.

I'm a Lockean Conservative (aka Constitutional Libertarian), and I get lumped in with Republicans all the time as being part of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

And Ernst Uhrlau will bail out Ron Arad.

/mmm kool-aid!

re: #31 The Other Les

It's time that we write to our Senators and Members of the House and ask them to write and and pass to rename the USS JIMMY CARTER to the something else.

Any suggestions?

The USS Robert D. Stetham.

A true Navy hero.

☭ Jimmah ☭

re: #51 Ward Cleaver

The USS Robert D. Stetham.

A true Navy hero.

Stethem

PIMF

Dear Lizards,perhaps you have not heard, none other than Barry Obama said that Carter has a right to do this. Come on, I said Barry!

re: #43 gman

I think this cartoon sums up Jimmah pretty well.

(Courtesy of Cox and Forkum)

that excellent. printed it out & it's on the office wall as I type! :)

re: #51 Ward Cleaver

I second that one!

re: #54 opnion

if Carter can snuggle up with and encourage the terrorists, why can't I cling to my guns and my faith?

re: #54 opnion

Dear Lizards,perhaps you have not heard, none other than Barry Obama said that Carter has a right to do this. Come on, I said Barry!

Barry's been smoking hopium again.

re: #31 The Other Les

It's time that we write to our Senators and Members of the House and ask them to write and and pass to rename the USS JIMMY CARTER to the something else.

Any suggestions?

How about the McCain (after McCain's father or grandfather)?

And re-name the next target ship the Carter, just before sinking it. [next statement deleted]

Who ever thought Billy would end up being the respectable one?

re: #56 marge45b

I second that one!

He popped right into my mind. Plus, he's a victim of Carter's bungling.

the spin being put on Jimmy Carter’s visit to Syria to hang out with genocidal terrorist thugs is that he’s trying to get Hamas to release kidnapped Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit

That's the same spin Reverand Wright uses to justify his trip to Libya... (ostensibly) to free Lt. Goodman.

In January 1984, Jesse Jackson travelled to Libya and Syria along with Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan. The mission's peaceful purpose was accomplished, as they secured the release of Goodman, who was essentially a prisoner of war.

U.S. President Ronald Reagan welcomed LT Goodman at the White House January 4, 1984, hours after he and Rev. Jackson arrived back in the U.S.

Of course, Wright was there with Farrakhan to panhandle for billions.

How much will the Carter Center garner from these thugs?

New technology capture an image of Rabbit Bait's soul.

Carter is very upbeat

I agree with that, if by "upbeat" you mean "stupid".

re: #43 gman

I think this cartoon sums up Jimmah pretty well.

(Courtesy of Cox and Forkum)

How about this one? (I saw it at Michelle Malkin)
[Link: wuzzadem.typepad.com...]

re: #57 BulgarWheat

if Carter can snuggle up with and encourage the terrorists, why can't I cling to my guns and my faith?

Because he's not a bitter, disaffected middle class American from flyover country like you are.

Off to watch BSG

Sorry, guys, but Jimmy isn't the most traitorous ex-president.

That signal dishonor goes to John Tyler, who at the time of his death was a member of the Confederate Congress.

Jimmy comes a close second, however.

re: #57 BulgarWheat

if Carter can snuggle up with and encourage the terrorists, why can't I cling to my guns and my faith?

because carter's not bitter, like you.

/

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

well, I am willing to learn.

He will want to address the Democratic Convention- that should prove interesting if not revealing!

re: #64 jcm

New technology capture an image of Rabbit Bait's soul.

What is that?

Compare Jimmie's post office activities with Hebert Hoover's. It's amazing how far we have fallen in who we elect President.

re: #66 zmdavid

I used your "hopium."

'It's an atrocity what is being perpetrated as punishment on the people in Gaza. It's a crime ... I think it is an abomination that this continues to go on.'
// Jimmy Carter, Apr. 17, 2008

. I don't believe that Mr. Carter has ever given a moment's thought to the fate of Gilad Shalit.

How's that working out for him? Maybe he should take a few helicopters in to rescue Shalit. Or more like it recover his remains.
On the brighter side, is this a great country or what? A complete dipshit can be elected President and more than 20 years after fucking up pretty much everything, can get a Nobel Peace prize, sell books, and make TV appearances. Gives me hope.

re: #76 buzzsawmonkey

dang, I ran into the buzzsaw today, or what?

heh!

re: #54 opnion

Aung San Suu Kyi has!

re: #75 MandyManners

I used your "hopium."

I didn't invent the term, I just added a Karl Marx spin to it.

re: #69 Steffan

Sorry, guys, but Jimmy isn't the most traitorous ex-president.
That signal dishonor goes to John Tyler, who at the time of his death was a member of the Confederate Congress.
Jimmy comes a close second, however.

still think Dhimmi is worse.

what does carter have to do with a Kidnapped Israeli Soldier and or Israel for that matter... Nadda Ziltch rein de toutes. He is undermining Israeli Government and the U.S as well. Does he think he has any political clout what so ever.. This guy needs to continue building homes. Thats what he is good for.

re: #73 MandyManners

What is that?

A steaming pile......

re: #81 zmdavid

I didn't invent the term, I just added a Karl Marx spin to it.

Don't be so modest!

re: #69 Steffan

Sorry, guys, but Jimmy isn't the most traitorous ex-president.

Who said that? He's being called most disgraceful, although some other choice adjectives come to mind.

re: #54 opnion

Dear Lizards,perhaps you have not heard, none other than Barry Obama said that Carter has a right to do this. Come on, I said Barry!

Yeah, he's got the right to do it, but he doesn't have the intelligence not to.

re: #84 jcm

A steaming pile......

It sure is steaming.

re: #69 Steffan

The most traitorous ex President would then be George Washington who was completely disloyal to England. Lincoln, on the other hand, the bestest ever, was so loyal he was willing to order the slaugther of what, 600,000 of his fellow countrymen?

re: #83 arier_tzvi

what does carter have to do with a Kidnapped Israeli Soldier and or Israel for that matter... Nadda Ziltch rein de toutes. He is undermining Israeli Government and the U.S as well. Does he think he has any political clout what so ever.. This guy needs to continue building homes. Thats what he is good for.

yeah, I though it was an insult too. He has NEVER given a rat's ass about Israel; as a matter of fact, he's probably the most anti-Semetic president in recent history!

Carter is violating the

Logan Act.

He is violating it, violating it, violating it.

Anybody who reads this who is connected with the justice department, get this knowledge going up the chain & get the prosecution GOING.

If Dhimmi visited Auschwitz, he'd probably be thinking "So close, so close. Only another few million to go. If only the US had stayed out of the war a few more years"

Should I re-post my press release in which the Hamas-Carter final solution for peace in the mideast is revealed?

Or has everyone seen it enough to be tired of it?

re: #58 MandyManners

Barry's been smoking hopium again.

But only in the most elegant, metro sexual way.Ya know Chris Mattews has to get over that man crush.

re: #87 bosforus

Note to Barry Obama

It took guns and religion to get rid of slavery in this country.

re: #85 MandyManners

Someone brought the term "hopium" to the last thread (from youtube comments). I just ran with it.

Is it time for another Carter Center Mass Resignation yet?

Is that place a tumbleweed plantation yet?

re: #75 MandyManners

I used your "hopium."

Lucius Septimius saw it first, then I saw it too, in comments on a YouTube video about Obama, created by a Shillary supporter.

re: #82 Vergeltung

still think Dhimmi is worse.

I got more respect for a guy who openly stands for the other side than a scumball who says he is with you and then backstabs you every chance he gets

re: #92 Kosh's Shadow

New people read here every day. There are 2,600 people on line right now. Post it please.

re: #96 Terp Mole

Is it time for another Carter Center Mass Resignation yet?

Is that place a tumbleweed plantation yet?

Somebody should stack hay in that building.

re: #89 kansas

The most traitorous ex President would then be George Washington who was completely disloyal to England.

Except when Washington was President, we didn't belong to England anymore.

. On the return flight Carter may still have time for a stopover to give Rotten Robert Mugabe a squeeze.

re: #31 The Other Les

It's time that we write to our Senators and Members of the House and ask them to write and and pass to rename the USS JIMMY CARTER to the something else.

Any suggestions?

Actually, the current name is a good choice.

Follow me on this. The SSN23 is a special operations boat. What better name to give it than one that would have people not want to say a word about it. It becomes therefore, just another layer of OPSEC, which is a good thing.

☾ Jimmah...Jimmah. ☾

re: #69 Steffan

Sorry, guys, but Jimmy isn't the most traitorous ex-president.

That signal dishonor goes to John Tyler, who at the time of his death was a member of the Confederate Congress.

Jimmy comes a close second, however.

Hmm. Close call - conferates were at least honest traitors.

re: #73 MandyManners

What is that?

A steaming pile.

I don't know if anyone else has pointed this out, but isn't the disgraceful Ex-President's record on recovering hostages a little spotty?

Jimmy C is like the Revs Al and Jesse - all of them trying to prove they are still relevant in a world that has passed them by. They are no more than punchlines, and I suspect they suffer from Munchausen Syndrome - create problems so they can come in and "solve" them.

Jimmy just caused his problems 30 years ago. He's patient like that, doncha know.

None of them have anything worth hearing.

re: #34 Alouette Oh yeah, the USS Eric Clapton! I like that one a....oh, wait, sorry, misread your post.
nevermind.

re: #102 Sharmuta

Except when Washington was President, we didn't belong to England anymore.

Belong to England? I bet King George and Cornwallis didn't share that view.

Here's to hoping he attends the Democratic National Convention.

Carter, Mashaal Announce Plan for Mideast Peace

Damascus. (CNN – Caliphate-Nazi News)

Former President Jimmy Carter and Hamas Leader Khaled Mashaal announced the final solution for Mideast peace. Hamas and Syria have agreed to recognize the state of Israel, after Carter's plan is put into motion.

The plan involves the Israeli government being taken over by the UN and the US State Department. “This is the culmination of all the years of my presidency,” the Nobel Peace Prize winner Carter said. “We all agree the problem that is preventing peace in the Mideast is that Israel is run by Jews; therefore, by replacing their government with one that is willing to understand the concerns of their neighbors, there will be peace.”

The Jews will still have rights to a homeland, but they will be concentrated in the Negev. “The Jews were able to make the desert bloom, so they should be quite comfortable in the camps that will be constructed there,” said former President Carter.

Reaction from world leaders was strong approval.

US Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice said “I salute former President Carter for his effort, and look forward to my new position as Prime Minister of Israel.” She then left just as the Israeli press arrived, having been forced to enter through the back door.

Barack Obama cheered the result. “I have known for 20 years that a solution like this was needed; finally there will be peace. I have offered former President Carter the position of Secretary of State, when I win the election.” He also said that he would now go under the name B. Hussein Obama.

Hillary Clinton also praised the deal but said “I had almost negotiated this deal, while under rocket fire, but the signed papers disappeared when I went to ask Bill about a stained blue burkha that I found under the desk in the meeting tent.”

John McCain, the Republican nominee for President, said something different, showing he is out of touch with world opinion.

“The UN, the Ummah of Nations, strongly supports this peace treaty.” Secretary General Ban Ki-Moonbat also said, “We have already recognized Mahmoud Abbas as the Israeli ambassador to the UN, and he will be moving in 'as soon as the stench is gone' from the rooms formerly occupied by Jews.”

The president of Iran, Ahmadinejad, said “We welcome this development, but we will not cease in our peaceful nuclear program as long as a single Jew remains alive.”

Hugo Chavez, president of Venezuela, also praised the accord. “Venezuela is pleased the world has come to understand the problems of our world. We have started rounding up Venezuelan Jews to send them to the new camps in Israel.”

The Saudi Arabian government issued a statement that “In honor of these historic accords, we will call for a 'free gas' day once they are implemented. We will even give Jews free gas, but of a very special kind.”

Adolph Hitler could not be reached for comment.

OT. File this under fake but accurate.

Chelsea Clinton has been recounting a story of a young woman who died because she didn't have health care. When Chelsea got a lot of her facts wrong and was corrected by reporters, she said, " but what matters to me in the following story is that no one ever doubted that it could be true in our country."

Sheesh.

re: #110 realwest

Oh yeah, the USS Eric Clapton! I like that one a....oh, wait, sorry, misread your post.
nevermind.

The Eric Clapton wouldn't be a fast attack boat. It would be one of those 'slow approach' boats.

What a pathetic, sorry excuse for a man.

I am beginning to believe Carter has been paid by Clinton to give Clinton a legacy. Clinton says, "Look, I sucked but I wasn't as bad as Jimmy for the US."

re: #108 CyanSnowHawk

I don't know if anyone else has pointed this out, but isn't the disgraceful Ex-President's record on recovering hostages a little spotty?

Actually it's a little splattered....

re: #96 Terp Mole

Is it time for another Carter Center Mass Resignation yet?

Is that place a tumbleweed plantation yet?

I'm guessing all the ones with a conscience and a grasp of reality have already left.

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

Showing that our religion is better.

re: #106 zmdavid

Hmm. Close call - conferates were at least honest traitors.

I wouldn't even call them traitors.

Traitor: one who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty

They made their position clear from the start and were willing to fight for it. They never professed one set of beliefs while working for another.

re: #109 Intrepid Huh,
Munchausen Syndrome - could very well be true, or
Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy as well.
Interesting thought.
But they're all still major league HATERS - it's all they know how to do anymore, HATE. And I think that's God's punishment for them while they are still alive.

Hey Rabbit Bait!

<^> <(º¿º)> <^>

re: #92 Kosh's Shadow

I read a facebook note written by a college kid who just visited Germany. She said how awful it was seeing all the bombed out buildings. On and on about how terrible it was that they were, gasp!, bombed.

Doesn't this kid realize that evil was running around unleashed and someone had to stop it in cold blood.

Unbelievable. Jimmy Carter is still working on his legacy. Unfortunately, he's just making it more and more obvious that he was the worst president in our lifetime, and the worst ex-president. He should be prosecuted under the Logan Act. Alas, I seriously doubt that will happen.

re: #104 CyanSnowHawk

Actually, the current name is a good choice.

Follow me on this. The SSN23 is a special operations boat. What better name to give it than one that would have people not want to say a word about it. It becomes therefore, just another layer of OPSEC, which is a good thing.

And of course, spec ops can be used to rescue hostages. In that sense, Jimmy Carter could really rescue hostages. What irony, when the man couldn't, or wouldn't.

the israeli prisoner is so obviously an after thought to the idiot jimmy carter. it's so easy to see thru these traitors as they try to cover their worthless asses. shameful.
and this mean old jerk is NOT "up beat". sour, hateful conniving people are NEVER "up beat"

re: #111 kansas

Belong to England? I bet King George and Cornwallis didn't share that view.

Washington was a General, not a President, during the Revolution.

re: #98 Ward Cleaver

Lucius Septimius saw it first, then I saw it too, in comments on a YouTube video about Obama, created by a Shillary supporter.

The video containing the hopium reference in the comments.

Lucius's notice of it.

And mine.

Carter IS working on his legacy--although i believe he has a different definition than the thinking world will have of the results of his labor.

re: #123 jcm

Hey Rabbit Bait!

<^> <(º¿º)> <^>

t(-.-t)

Jimmy needs to be put on the "NO FLY LIST".

I voted for Reagan in my 4th grade mock election!

In fact, I was Reagan. LOL

re: #124 Lively

No, probably not, nor realize that the same thing would happen again if the same mistakes be made, of not standing up to evil and stopping it when it is still easy to do.

That student should read W. Churchill's "The Gathering Storm".

I have more respect for Ramsey Clark than this treasonous prick.

re: #127 nyc redneck

the israeli prisoner is so obviously an after thought to the idiot jimmy carter. it's so easy to see thru these traitors as they try to cover their worthless asses. shameful.
and this mean old jerk is NOT "up beat". sour, hateful conniving people are NEVER "up beat"

Upbeat? No. Beat up? Hmmm...

Stomach growlin'

BBL

If you go to the Yahoo News Article...about 1/2 way down you get this: 'HAMAS VIEW'

This is perfect liberal 'moral equivolency'. The Civilized World has 'Their View' and the Thugs, Murderers, and Psychopaths have theirs!

re: #132 xenon23

Jimmy needs to be put on the "NO FLY LIST".

Bill Clinton, too.

Giving him a fly to unzip is just asking for trouble.

re: #57 BulgarWheat

if Carter can snuggle up with and encourage the terrorists, why can't I cling to my guns and my faith?

OK, let me explain. Barry is not down with your bitterness, clinging to your guns & your religious superstitions (You know unlike Trinity Church)
He is however way down with Carter hugging murderous thugs who want to destroy the US & Israel. See, Barry is the difference

re: #141 buzzsawmonkey

Our religion should have more guns than their religion.

(I have ruined the reputation of LGF with my post)

A smart move for the Barbarians would be to release Shalit to Carter.

Carter would be vindicated and his Worldwide prestige would soar. Only us "Neanderthals" would remain not appreciating the great man.

Considering that Carter is anti- Israel and Pro terrorists, having a Carter advance their case with the renewed respect and legitimacy that maybe his path is correct, as it proves to bring positive result, is worth more for them then from their continuing to hold Shalit.

Carter and Hamas would gain legitimacy. Israel will lose.

POS everywhere will rejoice.

re: #111 kansas

Belong to England? I bet King George and Cornwallis didn't share that view.

Doesn't change the point that it was hard for Washington to be disloyal as President when he wasn't disloyal to America.

re: #122 realwest

Huh,
Munchausen Syndrome - could very well be true, or
Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy as well.
Interesting thought.
But they're all still major league HATERS - it's all they know how to do anymore, HATE. And I think that's God's punishment for them while they are still alive.

If Carter had only stuck to his association with Habitat for Humanity, his legacy would have been one as a humanitarian. I had previously thought that legacy could have included the vote counting/election watching in questionable countries, but after his total boondoggle in Venezuela, that's out.

I keep hearing Marc Antony's "The evil that men do lives after them - the good is oft interred with their bones" line from Caesar's funeral speech.

With Jimmy that coffin will be pretty light.

re: #89 kansas

The most traitorous ex President would then be George Washington who was completely disloyal to England. Lincoln, on the other hand, the bestest ever, was so loyal he was willing to order the slaugther of what, 600,000 of his fellow countrymen?

I'll bet that you refer to the Civil War as the War of Northern Agression

Except when Washington was President, we didn't belong to England anymore.

Belong to England? I bet King George and Cornwallis didn't share that view.

Well, they did sign the treaty in...was it 1783? So more or less recognize the US as an independent country.

Related to that...or could argue that the Revolutionary war was really an English civil war. British subject in America were fighting for reforms that many in England wanted.

re: #148 opnion

He ordered the preservation of the Union, not any deaths.

What I have to say about Jimmy Carter is profane and unprintable.
Having said that, either he's purely evil (because he's far from ignorant) or severely mentally ill and delusional.
I leave the determination up to you.

re: #139 JamesTKirk

Bill needs to be kept on a leash and put on the "NO FLY LIST"

re: #144 buzzsawmonkey

Zardoz!

I dont think Zardoz is allowed here anymore. Too many references to Sean Connery in a leather loin cloth.

re: #155 ploome hineni

loin cloths give me hot flashes

Damn it. See what you started Buzzsaw!

re: #153 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I dont think Zardoz is allowed here anymore. Too many references to Sean Connery in a leather loin cloth.

Well, how about Charlotte Rampling? (Haven't found a good picture of her)

I would welcome the release of Gilad Shalit. If Jimmy can pull it off - fine.

I still think Jimmy is a worthless tool, who is trying to make up for his serious past mistakes.

re: #66 zmdavid

How about this one? (I saw it at Michelle Malkin)
[Link: wuzzadem.typepad.com...]

I like it. There's something about the childish gleam in his eyes as he wields those symbols of oppression that speaks volumes about the man.

Let's not forget that film director Jonathan Demme, whom I used to like, directed a fawning documentary about Carter. Demme is another Israel basher. Only Robert Novak, the fool columnist who hates Israel ,and the usual Islamofascists and their allies, like this dopey film. I will never see a movie directed by Demme again.re: #11 American_Infidel_Dog

re: #158 Racer X

I would welcome the release of Gilad Shalit. If Jimmy can pull it off - fine.

I still think Jimmy is a worthless tool, who is trying to make up for his serious past mistakes.

I don't think he's trying to make up for his mistakes, and I don't think he thinks they were mistakes.

He is an anti-Semitic asshole.

I just hope he isn't giving the Iranians any nuclear device information "for killing Jews only".

re: #151 Wilderstad

What I have to say about Jimmy Carter is profane and unprintable.
Having said that, either he's purely evil (because he's far from ignorant) or severely mentally ill and delusional.
I leave the determination up to you.

Or maybe he is not ill or delusional in the strict sense.

It all comes from hate.

He was humiliated by the people of the United States in 1980 and he is getting his revenge by sticking it to the Nation and siding with her enemies. Treason has come from less cause.

And he hates Israel too.

re: #151 Wilderstad
Last night Bob Grant on his radio show did a bit about Jimmah when they both had visited a synagogue before he ran for the presidency. Apparently, Jimmah was truly puzzzled by the synagogue and had no idea of what to do there. Grant is a righteous Gentile - Jimmah is not.

re: #162 Opinionated

Or maybe he is not ill or delusional in the strict sense.

It all comes from hate.

He was humiliated by the people of the United States in 1980 and he is getting his revenge by sticking it to the Nation and siding with her enemies. Treason has come from less cause.

And he hates Israel too.

Well, he let the US be humiliated, so he deserved it.

re: #157 Kosh's Shadow

Well, how about Charlotte Rampling? (Haven't found a good picture of her)

hottie in her day.

re: #108 CyanSnowHawk
Yes, I believe his planes crashed into each other in the Iranian desert!

re: #166 Alibaba

I think it was a Navy Sea Stallion and an Air Force C-130.

Carter is 83 years old, and his days of globetrotting to sip tea with dictators and terrorists are coming to an end.

Meanwhile, with this last stunt, Carter has just erased any credibility he's had, and permanently erased whatever positive legacy he might have had.

In ten years, he'll likely be dead, and the fact that he spend the end of life chumming about with murderers and tyrants will be one of the few things people remember about him.

jimmah is a creepy little old man.

Both Carter and Clinton have created legacies as ex-Presidents that will last for decades as narcissistic moral lepers consumed by self-righteous ambition that is utterly blind to decency and the interests of the country that gave them literally everything. The thought that America is still financing their treasonous sedition is an abomination beyond words.

Somewhere down the road there must be a reckoning.

re: #162 Opinionated

That kind of hate is a mental illness IMHO, and it eventually destroys the hater from within.

None of it would be happening without the tacit endorsement of the current administration

period

Geezz what a troll! I guess you want to live in the Confederate States of America!re: #89 kansas

re: #167 BulgarWheat
Hey my friend - could you please check your e-mail when you get a chance? Thanks!

Well it's been a grand day as usual, but I gotta go now!
Hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

@ re: #89 kansas

Proof that we need a WTF!?! dinger next to the plus and minus dinglehymers

re: #170 Gordon_1948

Both Carter and Clinton have created legacies as ex-Presidents that will last for decades as narcissistic moral lepers consumed by self-righteous ambition that is utterly blind to decency and the interests of the country that gave them literally everything. The thought that America is still financing their treasonous sedition is an abomination beyond words.

Somewhere down the road there must be a reckoning.

One thing I have to say for Clinton, though, was that he realized that Arafat was an unrepentant terrorist, after Arafish refused any peace offer. Of course, he was probably more upset at Arafat for ruining his legacy than murdering Jews.
Carter still loves Arafart.

re: #158 Racer X
I don't think he wants to make up for his "past mistakes" because he does not see them as mistakes! I became a Republican because of Jimmah's ineptitude. He is the perfect symbol of the current Democratic party which used to produce men such as Scoop Jackson but no longer does. Even Evan Bayh has turned into a wimp.

re: #174 realwest

real, just read and responded.

also just got back my bifocals. yippee!

Can we start calling Carter an EX-President now?

If anyone were a just candidate for tar and feathering it would be Djimmah Car(bombersuppor)ter.

re: #35 Sharmuta

These f*ckers would probably release Gilad just to make jhimmi look good- if the poor man's still alive, that is.

Trade Shalit for jimmy.

Hey! What do you know?!?

You can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear!

~ENT

I sure hope his security clearances have all been revoked.

"Y'know, Khaled, I read in the Congress' intelligence briefing the other day...."

I think most of us are "Carter'ed-out" at this point. We're grasping for superlatives to describe his baseness, and he just keeps showing us that what we think is a nadir is just another low point for him.

The new Hamas plaything Carter has moved past the 'useful idiot' stage and now, is in fact, a 'dangerous idiot'.

You (!), Charles, are one of "the most powerful enemies Muslims Islamists have faced in a thousand years....!"

Take a bow....and gloat a little

heh.

~ENT

re: #148 opnion

I'll bet that you refer to the Civil War as the War of Northern Agression

If the shoe fits.....Sure couldn't say it was the War of Southern Aggression. I didn't read of many cities in the North burned down or of any Southern Shermans. Other than the slavery issue, I really don't see the South seceeding as that different from the Colonies seceeding from England.

He just wants the nobel peace prize. It's been proven worthless already, so I suggest we just rush it out to him and add him to the list along with Al Baradei, Arafag, and others.

"Release Gilad Shalit", like Jimmah really gives a flying f.

Just cracked open last night: I Accuse: Jimmy Carter and the Rise of Militant Islam., by Philip Pilevsky.

Excellent read, for anyone interested in the actual facts of how Carter created this radical monster, and perhaps why he continues to aid and abet it today. (Maybe Barry O can hook up w/ Dhimmi and work on JC's Bitterness issue? What a pair!)

Nixon's Middle East policy relied on the Shah of Iran, Reza Pahlavi, to maintain the peace and stability in the ME, so "the ME will not become another Vietnam, with American boys dying in the sands."

We sold him (Shah) our DDS Spruance class destroyers and F15's(?) to get the job done and deter any unplanned for aggressions that could cause destabilization in the region.

The Shah was also head of OPEC at the time and our Faustian bargain helped provide leverage on the $/barrel. If oil went up, so did the price tag on our ships/planes.

Carter undermined the Shaw, which spiked the Nixon doctrine and opened the door for this monster we now face that has attacked us numerous times globally and on our homeland since then.

At that time ('77 ?), I and my firm met with the Shah's delegation in New Orleans including his brother-in-law, Dr. Hussein Ram, and Mahood Jafrutti(sp?) who managed the the the Shah's Pahlavi Foundation/Bank of Ohmran's global investments.

Pahlavi was the richest man in the world then and he was investing $ 200 MM (cash) in a Urban development - Canal Place, which our PR firm was representing. (we got the deal done, and the place stands here today.)

Soon after his fall (he fled Iran), I learned that some of his delegation that sat down with us here, where no longer breathing. They were murdered (tortured first?) by Khomeini's Islamic thugs.

I was disgusted then, and remain so today with Jimmy Carter. So, it's a bit personal to me.

How much blood will be on his hands before he meets his maker? I highly recommend this book!

"He is optimistic that the meeting will advance efforts to end the soldier’s saga,” the source said.

Saga? Gilad Shalit is being held hostage, and refused visits by any agency, in direct contravention of law, by a bunch of racist thugs. He is guilty of nothing except being Jewish.

Gitmo is a "saga".

re: #172 BabbaZee

None of it would be happening without the tacit endorsement of the current administration

Various parts of the Bush administration have made it clear publically that they don't approve of this trip, *and* they have explicitly asked him not to proceed.

But ultimately Carter is a private citizen and outside the USA he can meet with whomever he likes. Since Carter has explicitly said, and made it crystal clear that he represents no-one but himself on these trips, the Logan act doesn't apply.

Yes, there are quasi-legal or perhaps illegal things the Bush administration could do to hassle or stop Carter from these sorts of meetings, but they'd all ultimately look partisan and backfire politically. Carter is a stubborn old fool, and he isn't going to let this go.

Again, if Carter wants THAT badly to make an ass of himself and destroy his reputation further, that's up to him.

re: #184 crown_of_feathers

I think most of us are "Carter'ed-out" at this point. We're grasping for superlatives to describe his baseness, and he just keeps showing us that what we think is a nadir is just another low point for him.

* * *
Lizards, Carter is just doing what most Democrats think is GOOD "foreign policy".

Carter's proclivity is not an aberration. It is by design, democrat design.

Presidential candidate Kerry kissed Assad in Damascus; as a younger man, Kerry met with North Vietnamese delegations--while still in Navy uniform--while the US was at war, so Kerry free-lanced foreign policy to undermine either the Johnson or Nixon administrations.

Clinton & Obama have showered favor on our enemies & heaped venom on our allies in the WOT.

We've seen how many democrats went to meet Saddam Hussein--FOR THE CHILDREN, they said.

re: #170 Gordon_1948

Both Carter and Clinton have created legacies as ex-Presidents that will last for decades as narcissistic moral lepers consumed by self-righteous ambition that is utterly blind to decency and the interests of the country that gave them literally everything. The thought that America is still financing their treasonous sedition is an abomination beyond words.

Somewhere down the road there must be a reckoning.

* * *
I repeat my belief Carter & Clinton are considered IDEAL TEMPLATES of foreign policy by the democrat party. Democrats wish to continue in Carter/Clinton tradition of appeasement.

Today we are paying mightily in treasure, blood, talent, time & reputation for Carter/Clinton's creation of a nuclear Iran and an undeterred Al Qaeda buildup, which happened on democrat watches.

Yes, we should revoke his passport. Can we do it before he gets back?

Dhimmi never ceases to amaze me:

Speaking to an audience of 1,000 terrorist-lovers in Egypt he says:

"My hope is that there will be no more rockets coming out of Gaza and that was my primary request to Hamas leaders and I hope they will comply," said Carter.

Good luck with that...

"And if they do comply my hope is that Israel will not launch any more attacks as they did yesterday within which I think 21 people died."

So much for accuracy...

"If that conflict can stop then I will be quite pleased. I am not blaming one side or another. But any act, any act by Israelis or Palestinians that causes deaths of innocent civilians in my opinion, in my definition is an act of terrorism.

What is wrong with this guy?

re: #191 looking closely

Various parts of the Bush administration have made it clear publically that they don't approve of this trip, *and* they have explicitly asked him not to proceed.

I am well aware of it

We are speaking about politics here.

diplobabble

If they wanted to stop him
if it were contrary to their interests
they would have stopped him

on Pelosi's trip to Syria she was accompanied by Republicans

and there was a follow up trip made by only Republicans

she was neither censured or stopped from making this trip
she was assisted

and all our outrage was directed at her then
as all our outrage is directed at Jimmah now

but I did not vote for Jimmah

I voted for GWB

My outrage is with this administration for doing dick about any of it

not only that
for enabling it

GWB's disgusting relationship with Fatah
and
Jimmah's vile relationship with Hamas

are not mutually exclusive events

This just in, Barack Obama explains why Carter is so bitter at a San Fransissyco fundraiser:

“Jimmy Carter’s job has been gone for 25 years and nothing’s replaced it. And he fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow he’s going to regenerate and he has not. And it’s not surprising then he gets bitter, he clings to dictators, or terrorists, or election fraud, or antipathy to people who aren’t like him (the JOOOOOS!) or anti-American or anti-Isreali sentiment as a way to explain his frustrations.”

And you know, I have to say, he’s got a point.

(Yes, that is a joke.)

re: #187 kansas

If the shoe fits.....Sure couldn't say it was the War of Southern Aggression. I didn't read of many cities in the North burned down or of any Southern Shermans. Other than the slavery issue, I really don't see the South seceeding as that different from the Colonies seceeding from England.

Lawrence Massacre
American Civil War
August 21, 1863

Had Marshal Petain been a president of the United States, Jimmy Carter would still be the United States' single most disgraceful former president. By far.

re: #196 BabbaZee

I agree with you. It serves this Administration purposes.

It puts Israel on the defensive, makes it more vulnerable to Rice's pressure.

Israel must prove that although Hamas is beyond the pale, Israel desires peace evidenced by conceding to the "good" terrorists of Abbas and Fatah.

Are we really to believe that an Administration has no power to prevent a meeting of an American citizen and the head of a designated terrorist organization? Would Carter be allowed to meet Bin Ladin for a friendly chat?

Carter was already President before I was old enough to vote. I was in the military 2 years before my first opportunity to vote in an election.

His foreign policy was embarrassing. If he could have dissolved the military, he would have.

I got to vote for RR, and jumped at the chance.

At this point, Carter's legacy is like a b grade horror film. He just keeps popping up and demonstrating his distrust for all things American. Then turns around and kisses the ass of any murderous tyrant that will hold still long enough for him to do it.

I wish the guy would just go ahead and take his long overdue dirt nap.

JW

“Carter is very upbeat. The publicity put out by his detractors made him more determined to pursue a different way with Hamas improve his dismal representation in the history books before his failed Presidency is rendered completely irrelevent by the passage of time.

“Carter is very upbeat. The publicity put out by his detractors made him more determined to pursue a different way with Hamas poke his thumb in the Republican administrations' collective eye.

Pick one.

Either way, he's a world class narcissist with an ego the size of Texas.

We can only pray that Carter's aircraft experiences engine problems on the way home about 1/2 way across the Atlantic Ocean.

#187 kansas .

Well this is minefield territory, but your are very close to factual truth.

Check out, The Rise and Fall of the Confederacy by one Jefferson Davis, former President, CSA & former US Senator from MS.

In his opening pages, he quickly points out the legal arguments employed by the "States Rights" States prior to their succession. Among the many surprises is this:

Jefferson claims and cites that several New England States attempted succession from the USA in about 1812, or in fact, enacted it (?).

Apparently, the NE States were less than pleased about how the economic US pie was being sliced up at the time.

The South was gaining in economic might due to its plantation system, based on the use of slave labor, and the North could not grow cotton in its rocky soils in NE, so... they tried to split for better economic opportunities, on their own.

This was one of the precedents Jefferson cites as the CSA's "raison d'etre", the legitimizing item based on the same goal - economic self determination.

He claims that the Northern States legally opened the door that the Southern States used to exist, 50 years later. Thus, Lincoln's war to reclaim the Southern States was illegitimate.

However, it must be stated that slavery was essential to their economic goals, regardless of the soundness their legal arguments.

General Lee put closure on this matter.

It's an eye opening read, one not found in high school books on the subject, ever. Us history is rich! Next topic!

Do Carter or his minions have a website where I can express my utter contempt (diplomatically, of course) for his behavior? There's got to be some link somewhere to send a scathing email. Suggestions? The man's GOT to understand he's not under the radar and not above the fray. His elitist worldview borders (and that's a generous assessment) on treason.

since carter had such success in freeing hostages from the hands of islamist thugs during 1979 and 1980, of course he has a reasonable chance of succeeding now ...

/do I really need to?

re: #206 _remembertonyc

since carter had such success in freeing hostages from the hands of islamist thugs during 1979 and 1980, of course he has a reasonable chance of succeeding now ...

/do I really need to?

* * *

Carter's cowardice kept US people hostage 444 days, made the US a paper tiger in the eyes of the jihadist world, and caused untold death & torture in Iran, as the ayatollahs' crazed followers toppled pro-Westerners and pro-modernity in Iran.

Carter took Iran back to the 7th century on the one hand, and handed nuclear weapons to 7th century-jihadists bent on our total destruction.

re: #191 looking closely

Various parts of the Bush administration have made it clear publicly that they don't approve of this trip, *and* they have explicitly asked him not to proceed.

But ultimately Carter is a private citizen and outside the USA he can meet with whomever he likes. Since Carter has explicitly said, and made it crystal clear that he represents no-one but himself on these trips, the Logan act doesn't apply.

Yes, there are quasi-legal or perhaps illegal things the Bush administration could do to hassle or stop Carter from these sorts of meetings, but they'd all ultimately look partisan and backfire politically. Carter is a stubborn old fool, and he isn't going to let this go.

Again, if Carter wants THAT badly to make an ass of himself and destroy his reputation further, that's up to him.

BabbaZee is correct.
You link to a CNN article which mentions that Rice called Annan and asked him not to go.
What Rice was doing there was protecting the integrity of that sham she is partly responsible for called the "Quartet". The UN is a party to the Quartet. It's obligated to support Abbas since he is the President of the PA. Period. Annan cannot be seen as undermining a policy which he has committed the UN to in his role as Sec. Gen.
That hardly qualifies as putting pressure on Carter not to go.

The article you link to also notes that David Welch called Carter and asked him not to go.
Perhaps you can explain then why it was this same State Department employee that briefed Carter for over an hour prior to his trip to meet the Hamas terrorists?
And perhaps you might want to explain how it was that two weeks earlier the State Department floated the idea of talking to Hamas in a very public forum?

Some of Carter's comments after meeting with Hamas:

"In Cairo on Thursday, former President Jimmy Carter met with Hamas leaders from Gaza and spoke at the American University, Reuters reported. He criticized Israel’s action, after Hamas took over Gaza by force last June, to allow only basic supplies to be moved into the territory.

Mr. Carter said Palestinians in Gaza were being “starved to death,” receiving fewer calories a day than people in the poorest parts of Africa. “It’s an atrocity what is being perpetrated as punishment on the people in Gaza,” he said. "

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

re: #205 jaws

Do Carter or his minions have a website where I can express my utter contempt (diplomatically, of course) for his behavior? There's got to be some link somewhere to send a scathing email. Suggestions? The man's GOT to understand he's not under the radar and not above the fray. His elitist worldview borders (and that's a generous assessment) on treason.

MAY DHIMMI CARTER COMMIT AN UNNATURAL ACT WITH ARAFISH AIDS INFECTED COUPSE AND MAY HE ENJOY IT.

re: #200 Opinionated

Would Carter be allowed to meet Bin Ladin for a friendly chat?

Precisely.
Thank you

re: #208 MJ

Yes
and thank you too

Speaking of the State Department....CNN just reported that according to a G.O.A. report, 10.5 Billion dollars have now been poured into Pakistan. And the results? Nada...In fact, the money has been squandered; and Al Qaeda has regenerated and established a safe haven in a no-go zone in Pakistan. (Some reports suggest that Al Qaeda could mount another attack within the U.S.) The State Department is claiming that progress is being made...

sorry, that's GAO... link here...

re: #212 J.S.

Speaking of the State Department....CNN just reported that according to a G.O.A. report, 10.5 Billion dollars have now been poured into Pakistan. And the results? Nada...In fact, the money has been squandered; and Al Qaeda has regenerated and established a safe haven in a no-go zone in Pakistan. (Some reports suggest that Al Qaeda could mount another attack within the U.S.) The State Department is claiming that progress is being made...

Actually, given the State Department's love affair with democratically-elected terrorists ( think Hamas ), we're sort of lucky that Musharraf is still there instead of Jamaat-Islami:
[Link: jamaat.org...]

In post 39 Bystander said:
Undermining the foreign policy of the government is not a trivial matter and this should not be tolerated, regardless of (and especially due to) his former office. He lends credibility where none should exist, encourages enemy combatants and nation-states and threatens the security of our allies.

I could not agree more.
That being said......
Please come home to constructive activity Mr. President.
You could pound some nails for charity.
Or you could stay in the mideast and pound sand.
Just try to do one or the other without conducting affairs of state.
You had your chance at that before,and since 1979 or so
many have doubted your strategy.
Encouraging radical raving jihadis has not worked out very well.
Since we are at war w them it is distinctly unhelpful of you to
be off US soil offering them aid comfort and legitimacy.
Your "peace mission"reaching out to Hamas and assorted unsavory others might have lengthened the war on terror by one year.
Since you are a veteran I ask you to remember you brothers in arms in
harm's way today,as indeed western civilization itself is threatened.
As a favor to those submariners of yours and all the other veterans, please come home Mr President.
Because you are doing them irreparable harm by staying and again
conducting , misguided affairs of state.

re: #214 MJ

According to a recent article in The Guardian (yes, that left-wing rag), the U.S. government has now shifted its policies with respect to Pakistan. Musharraf is basically side-lined (with that Benazir Bhutto's party the "new government" and Musharraf a lame duck). Joe Biden -- Democrat -- has outlined the "new" stratedy with respect to Pakistan -- they've decided that the "military approach" (that is, launching unmanned drones into the tribal areas) would stop. Now the aid monies are to go to "dialogue" and Pakistani "police" (read "local corrupt officials.")...and the State Dept. supports this tripling of aid monies (non-military aid monies) into Pakistan...link here...Frankly, I think all this money is going down the rabbit hole..

re: #205 jaws

There's a U.S. Congressman -- Joe Knollenberg -- who introduced legislation on Wednesday to stop taxpayer monies from going to support dialogues with named terrorist organizations...According to one article:

"The bill, the Coordinated American Response to Extreme Radicals or CARTER Act prohibits taxpayer funds from being appropriated to the Carter Center, which Knollenberg’s office said has received at least $19 million in federal money since 2001."

Link to article...

Could always write to Congressman Knollenberg and express your support...

re: #216 J.S.

According to a recent article in The Guardian (yes, that left-wing rag), the U.S. government has now shifted its policies with respect to Pakistan. Musharraf is basically side-lined (with that Benazir Bhutto's party the "new government" and Musharraf a lame duck). Joe Biden -- Democrat -- has outlined the "new" stratedy with respect to Pakistan -- they've decided that the "military approach" (that is, launching unmanned drones into the tribal areas) would stop. Now the aid monies are to go to "dialogue" and Pakistani "police" (read "local corrupt officials.")...and the State Dept. supports this tripling of aid monies (non-military aid monies) into Pakistan...link here...Frankly, I think all this money is going down the rabbit hole..

You're right. The money is being wasted.

re: #217 J.S.

There's a U.S. Congressman -- Joe Knollenberg -- who introduced legislation on Wednesday to stop taxpayer monies from going to support dialogues with named terrorist organizations...According to one article:

Link to article...

Could always write to Congressman Knollenberg and express your support...

Here's another effort to support as well:

NEWS Release

U.S. Rep. Sue Myrick
Representing North Carolina’s Ninth District
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
April 16, 2008 Contact: Andy Polk
(202) 225-1976


Rep. Myrick Calls for Former President Jimmy Carter’s Passport to be Revoked


(Washington, D.C.) – Today, Rep. Sue Myrick (NC-9) called on Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to revoke former President Jimmy Carter’s passport. This is in response to the former President traveling to Syria to meet with Hamas, an organization officially designated by the United States as a Foreign Terrorist Organization.

“Former President Carter has acted in contradiction of international agreements to isolate Hamas. He has acted in defiance of both United States policy and international policy. His actions reward terrorists, lend support, and provide legitimacy to their belief that violence will eventually get them what they want,” said Rep. Myrick.

After Hamas won the 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections the Quartet (US, UN, EU and Russia) called on Hamas to renounce terror, recognize Israel and recognize the previous agreements between the Palestinian Authority and Israel as they seek an agreement to make peace. Hamas has categorically rejected these three conditions for more than two years.

Congress granted the Secretary of State the power to grant and verify passports. In 1981, the United States Supreme Court held in the case of Haig v. Agee that the Secretary of State has the implied power to revoke passports as well (453 U.S. 280).

Background
Carter embraces Hamas official at West Bank meeting: [Link: apnews.myway.com...]

re: #143 opinionated

A smart move for the Barbarians would be to release Shalit to Carter.

Carter would be vindicated and his Worldwide prestige would soar. Only us "Neanderthals" would remain not appreciating the great man.

Considering that Carter is anti- Israel and Pro terrorists, having a Carter advance their case with the renewed respect and legitimacy that maybe his path is correct, as it proves to bring positive result, is worth more for them then from their continuing to hold Shalit.

Carter and Hamas would gain legitimacy. Israel will lose.

POS everywhere will rejoice.

Exactly! I've been wondering where the quid pro quo was and NOW we see it.

Carter's so called reputation as a peacemaker/broker is polished for ALL the world to see, especially Europe and the Mideast, once again making him relevant on the world stage even though he's nothing but a useful tool for Hamas.

Hamas comes out smelling like a rose along with finding SOMEONE in the west who they "trust" and can make deals with (Read: can buy off) and use as a mouthpiece into Washington and the west in general.

Even though Carter currently wields no real power, just wait until the Dems get into the Whitehouse. Then we'll see what the TRUE payday looks like eh?

All join hands now and sing Kumbyah...

I bet ya a beer this WAS in fact the plan all along.

Sickening, just sickening.

re: #219 MJ

Here's another effort to support as well:

NEWS Release

U.S. Rep. Sue Myrick
Representing North Carolina’s Ninth District
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
April 16, 2008 Contact: Andy Polk
(202) 225-1976

Rep. Myrick Calls for Former President Jimmy Carter’s Passport to be Revoked

(Washington, D.C.) – Today, Rep. Sue Myrick (NC-9) called on Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to revoke former President Jimmy Carter’s passport. This is in response to the former President traveling to Syria to meet with Hamas, an organization officially designated by the United States as a Foreign Terrorist Organization.

“Former President Carter has acted in contradiction of international agreements to isolate Hamas. He has acted in defiance of both United States policy and international policy. His actions reward terrorists, lend support, and provide legitimacy to their belief that violence will eventually get them what they want,” said Rep. Myrick.

After Hamas won the 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections the Quartet (US, UN, EU and Russia) called on Hamas to renounce terror, recognize Israel and recognize the previous agreements between the Palestinian Authority and Israel as they seek an agreement to make peace. Hamas has categorically rejected these three conditions for more than two years.

Congress granted the Secretary of State the power to grant and verify passports. In 1981, the United States Supreme Court held in the case of Haig v. Agee that the Secretary of State has the implied power to revoke passports as well (453 U.S. 280).

Background
Carter embraces Hamas official at West Bank meeting: [Link: apnews.myway.com...]

Will SOMEONE in Washington PLEASE grow a pair of cajones! PLEASE! Aside from revoking his passport, he should be charged under the Logan Act immediatly and arrested the moment he sets foot back in the U.S. of A.

Carter, who is on a Middle East tour to hear views on solving the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, earlier met Syrian President Bashar al-Assad

The last "peace" Carter brokered costs the USA about 5 billion a year for the last 30+ years and still counting....Hell, WAR would have been cheaper and it would be over by now...imho

This is just a rhetorical question but is Jimmah suffering from dementia? Somebody needs to get one of those long hooks like you use to see in old movies about vaudeville and pull his ass from the public stage before he does anymore damage. The next thing you know the damn terrorists will take that old fool hostage and we'll have to send some of our brave soldiers to rescue him and might lose some valuable people in the process and I don't mean Jimmah.

Heretical:

He is certainly not "most disgraceful" president. Some former presidents ate their political opponents at their lunchtime. He is certainly not an idiot, however twisted his 'morality' is. Regardless if one agree with him or not (I certainly don't) there is a chance that he can bring results. Good cop approach may work at times.

re: #224 Winston Y. Smith

Um are you defending Jimmy Carter on LGF?

And people wonder y i am a conservative. Where were you 11/02/80? I was watching my father and mother vote for Ronald Reagan ha ha ha I don't know about the rest of the US but if it was within my power to keep JC from being buried in Dixie, i would do so.

Guys, guys, guys, I don't like his travels either. But let us consider for a moment that he's passing messages from GWB during his meetings with these nut jobs. Just take a deep breath and step back from this matter for a while. I'm willing to buy the "secret envoy" theory for now, otherwise I can't rationalize why he's doing it.

re: #225 pegcity

Why not. Otherwise lgf is a pure self indulgent chest beating cheer leading. There is a slight chance that Jimmy can achieve something. The way John Major dealt from IRA. Beating one own chest and entering a pissing contest, just resembles the other side too much. Those folks are living their traditional lifestyle, and have never seen reformation the way Europe did. Its a traditional indigent lifestyle. One either domesticate the wolf or kill him. Its no point to exhibit a cognitive dissonance to wolfs predator behavior. Because it is how the wolfs survive whe not cared for.

In case no one noticed, Jihad Jimmy met with the Terrorists on the 25th Anniversary of the Bombing of the Marine Barracks In Beirut.

That is just disgusting that he would defile the memories of those brave Marines that died that day!

I always thought that Clinton made Carter look like a good President.
But now, after the Hamas visit, he has completely lost his mind. His passport should be immediately revoked so that he cannot come back to the U.S.