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The Meaning of 'Amnesty'

Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 6:36:48 pm PDT

The “narrative” from this day on will be that Associated Press photographer Bilal Hussein was set free because he was cleared of the charges against him. But it isn’t so: AP’s Terror Operative Freed but Not Cleared.

As I wrote last week:

Amnesty, of course, does not necessarily equal innocence.

In fact, it normally implies guilt, but you wouldn’t know it from AP’s reports.

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1 DesertSage  4/18/08 6:37:27 pm reply quote

McCain knows what amnesty is.

2 Sharmuta  4/18/08 6:40:07 pm reply quote

The ap- like most of the msm- isn't in the habit of letting facts get in the way of their narrative.

3 winston06  4/18/08 6:40:53 pm reply quote

AP, al_Reuters and the rest are all guilty

4 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  4/18/08 6:41:05 pm
5 MandyManners  4/18/08 6:41:20 pm reply quote

I can hardly wait until he deigns to descend from Mount Olympus to tell us how wrong we are.

6 pat  4/18/08 6:41:31 pm reply quote

Amnesty implies guilt. It is part and parcel of the meaning of the word. So now AP cannot write English?

7 winston06  4/18/08 6:42:01 pm reply quote

re: #6 pat

Apparently not

8 mitthrawnurdo  4/18/08 6:43:15 pm reply quote

re: #5 MandyManners

Who are you referring to?

Kratos? Zeus?

9 MandyManners  4/18/08 6:45:31 pm reply quote

re: #8 mitthrawnurdo

Who are you referring to?

Kratos? Zeus?

Otingoc.

10 EC Marm  4/18/08 6:46:03 pm reply quote

re: #5 MandyManners

I can hardly wait until he deigns to descend from Mount Olympus to tell us how wrong we are.


At great personal risk, please trust me on this...

11 mitthrawnurdo  4/18/08 6:46:14 pm reply quote

I wonder if Hussein is already helping more "freedom fighters"...

12 snowcrash  4/18/08 6:46:30 pm reply quote

re: #5 MandyManners

I can hardly wait until he deigns to descend from Mount Olympus to tell us how wrong we are.


Any moment now!

13 Purple Prose  4/18/08 6:47:28 pm reply quote
How can my son be racist, asks mother of Down's boy charged after playground spat with Asian girl

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

14 really grumpy big dog Johnson  4/18/08 6:47:29 pm reply quote

It's far better to (a) have your sentence commuted to time served (Carter); and (b) have your sins cleansed by presidential pardon (Clinton).

See: Weathermen, Weather Underground, Patty Hearst, William Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn.

15 Pvt Bin Jammin  4/18/08 6:47:38 pm reply quote

Tiy can bet that the Marines who found the explosives making materials and terrorist propaganda in his home are pretty effing ticked off about now.

16 MandyManners  4/18/08 6:48:42 pm reply quote

re: #10 EC Marm

At great personal risk, please trust me on this...

I heard he claimed to have hung out with terrorists in an earlier thread.

17 wolfie  4/18/08 6:49:41 pm reply quote

re: #13 Purple Prose

[Link:

18 Syrah  4/18/08 6:50:23 pm reply quote

re: #15 Pvt Bin Jammin

Tiy can bet that the Marines who found the explosives making materials and terrorist propaganda in his home are pretty effing ticked off about now.

I can imagine that he will get some extra "special" attention at the military checkpoints he will have to pass through.

19 Grammy Cracker  4/18/08 6:50:38 pm reply quote

re: #16 MandyManners

I heard he claimed to have hung out with terrorists in an earlier thread.

I claim to have hung out with terriers....and chihuahuas.

/hey, those little guys can be tough!

20 MandyManners  4/18/08 6:50:43 pm reply quote

re: #12 snowcrash

Any moment now!

Maybe not if we don't post his nic.

21 MandyManners  4/18/08 6:51:03 pm reply quote

re: #19 Grammy Cracker

I claim to have hung out with terriers....and chihuahuas.

/hey, those little guys can be tough!

LOL!

22 EC Marm  4/18/08 6:51:43 pm reply quote

re: #16 MandyManners

I heard he claimed to have hung out with terrorists in an earlier thread.


Yup, he probably just single-handedly delivered the Ayman Zawahiri tape to the media, at great personal risk, trust me on this.

23 Pvt Bin Jammin  4/18/08 6:51:56 pm reply quote

re: #18 Syrah
Indeed. It makes me smile just to think of it.

24 jaunte  4/18/08 6:52:42 pm reply quote

re: #17 wolfie

This is taking political correctness to the point of psychosis.
And exactly who is being helped?!

Anyone charged with/responsible for investigating those sorts of complaints gets more staff/budget/power.

25 Noam Sayin'  4/18/08 6:52:56 pm reply quote

Still open.

How many have you got so far, Charles?

26 razorbacker  4/18/08 6:53:24 pm reply quote

Wonder if Ms. Swinton will need amnesty?

27 mikeinmd  4/18/08 6:53:33 pm reply quote

We are not fooled. We know who you are.

28 Syrah  4/18/08 6:53:41 pm reply quote

Hmmm.

Feeding time.

29 Grammy Cracker  4/18/08 6:53:46 pm reply quote

re: #17 wolfie

This is taking political correctness to the point of psychosis.
And exactly who is being helped?!

I posted this link last night on the front page....can you believe it? He's 18, with the mind of a 5 year old, and so is she. They have some kind of playground spat, and he's up on CRIMINAL charges because she happens to be of asian descent?

I used to care for some Downs patients. This is one of the most absurd things I've heard in a LONG time....

30 Bacchus's daddy  4/18/08 6:53:58 pm reply quote

"Amnesty", as a concept, is beloved by the MSM. In turn, they apply it to persons and narratives that they love.

31 MandyManners  4/18/08 6:54:17 pm reply quote

re: #22 EC Marm

Yup, he probably just single-handedly delivered the Ayman Zawahiri tape to the media, at great personal risk, trust me on this.

The song "Secret Agent Man" just started playing in my head.

32 Grammy Cracker  4/18/08 6:55:12 pm reply quote

re: #31 MandyManners

The song "Secret Agent Man" just started playing in my head.

ROFL! Me, too! GMTA.....

33 Purple Prose  4/18/08 6:55:59 pm reply quote

re: #17 wolfie

This is taking political correctness to the point of psychosis.
And exactly who is being helped?!

The Islamist grievance industry.

34 jaunte  4/18/08 6:56:04 pm reply quote

re: #31 MandyManners

Sounds like the poster 'Minigun'.

35 lawhawk  4/18/08 6:56:17 pm reply quote
amnesty

Main Entry:
am·nes·ty Listen to the pronunciation of amnesty
Pronunciation:
ˈam-nə-stē
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural am·nes·ties
Etymology:
Greek amnēstia forgetfulness, from amnēstos forgotten, from a- + mnasthai to remember — more at mind
Date:
1580

: the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals

And since AP doesn't know what a pardon is, here's that definition:


Main Entry:
1par·don Listen to the pronunciation of 1pardon
Pronunciation:
ˈpär-dən
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English, from Anglo-French pardun, pardoun, from parduner
Date:
14th century

1: indulgence 12: the excusing of an offense without exacting a penalty3 a: a release from the legal penalties of an offense b: an official warrant of remission of penalty

36 wolfie  4/18/08 6:56:43 pm reply quote

re: #24 jaunte

Anyone charged with/responsible for investigating those sorts of complaints gets more staff/budget/power.

Yes. I think you've nailed it. That has to be the payoff.....and you get to pretend you're holier than others at the same time.

37 VegasRick  4/18/08 6:56:50 pm reply quote

re: #25 Noam Sayin'

Still open.

How many have you got so far, Charles?

I have not seen one, maybe Charles is just feeding.

38 MandyManners  4/18/08 6:57:01 pm reply quote

re: #34 jaunte

Sounds like the poster 'Minigun'.

Otingoc.

39 Syrah  4/18/08 6:57:37 pm reply quote
40 jaunte  4/18/08 6:59:33 pm reply quote

re: #36 wolfie

As an adoptive parent, I have experience with the Texas CPS branch of Bureaucraticus Busyboddius.

41 EC Marm  4/18/08 7:01:37 pm reply quote

re: #39 Syrah

Secret Agent Man


I always thought it was Secret Asian Man.

/ bad ears

42 savage_nation[deleted]  4/18/08 7:01:51 pm
43 pat  4/18/08 7:02:06 pm reply quote

re: #13 Purple Prose

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

That must be linked and sent to Charles.

44 Syrah  4/18/08 7:02:25 pm reply quote

re: #41 EC Marm

I always thought it was Secret Asian Man.

/ bad ears

In The Clinton Era, it was.

45 MandyManners  4/18/08 7:02:28 pm reply quote

later

46 nyc redneck  4/18/08 7:02:34 pm reply quote

this guy is a terrorist media operative. he is the enemy, hiding behind the msm, who is also the enemy. we are going to have to accept these facts at some point, to win this war. as we engage in a win friends-influence people war, the enemy comes at us, savagely, on all fronts.

47 AZfederalist  4/18/08 7:03:14 pm reply quote
In fact, it normally implies guilt, but you wouldn’t know it from AP’s reports.

Of course not, it doesn't fit the template of how oppressive our troops are and how we are illegally imprisoning and torturing people.

Of course the fact that Al AP hired the guy kind of makes a difference as well. The all-knowing, all-powerful, all-impartial holier than thou press would *never* make a mistake.

48 wolfie  4/18/08 7:03:22 pm reply quote

re: #29 Grammy Cracker

I posted this link last night on the front page....can you believe it? He's 18, with the mind of a 5 year old, and so is she. They have some kind of playground spat, and he's up on CRIMINAL charges because she happens to be of asian descent?

I used to care for some Downs patients. This is one of the most absurd things I've heard in a LONG time....

It's so cruel. And so entirely unnecessary.
And these people are monitoring our sensitivity?!

Oh, I envy your patience in working with Downs patients....and the rewards you must have had from doing it. The only person w/ Downs I ever came into real contact with was the little sister of my college roommate. She was the most delightful, kindest person in the world!

49 savage_nation[deleted]  4/18/08 7:03:41 pm
50 jaunte  4/18/08 7:03:46 pm reply quote

re: #42 savage_nation

This is a bad place to make false claims!
How a e you doing tonight, Savage?

51 wolfie  4/18/08 7:04:19 pm reply quote

re: #31 MandyManners

The song "Secret Agent Man" just started playing in my head.

For years I thought it was "Secret Asian Man."
Never could understand the point to it.

52 Grammy Cracker  4/18/08 7:04:33 pm reply quote

re: #41 EC Marm

I always thought it was Secret Asian Man.

/ bad ears

It may have been.....see Paul Shanklin, typical white comedian, for a parody with that very title....

53 savage_nation[deleted]  4/18/08 7:04:45 pm
54 jaunte  4/18/08 7:04:46 pm reply quote

Missing r for #50...

55 savage_nation[deleted]  4/18/08 7:05:27 pm
56 VegasRick  4/18/08 7:05:30 pm reply quote

re: #54 jaunte

Missing r for #50...

Here have mine.
Vegasick

57 savage_nation[deleted]  4/18/08 7:06:04 pm
58 wolfie  4/18/08 7:06:09 pm reply quote

re: #40 jaunte

As an adoptive parent, I have experience with the Texas CPS branch of Bureaucraticus Busyboddius.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! You have been in the lion's den.

59 wolfie  4/18/08 7:06:56 pm reply quote

re: #41 EC Marm

I always thought it was Secret Asian Man.

/ bad ears

GEHA
Great ears hear alike!

60 opnion  4/18/08 7:08:23 pm reply quote

re: #41 EC Marm

I always thought it was Secret Asian Man.

/ bad ears

That is because Johnny Rivers had a lisp.

61 wolfie  4/18/08 7:08:43 pm reply quote

re: #53 savage_nation

Oh, they know whats best for us, don't ya know?

Of course. They're enlightened. We're.....bitter.

62 AZfederalist  4/18/08 7:08:43 pm reply quote

re: #41 EC Marm

I always thought it was Secret Asian Man.

/ bad ears

Actually, there is a comic strip by that name:
Secret Asian Man

63 Sharmuta  4/18/08 7:09:01 pm reply quote
Multi-National Forces-Iraq maintains that it has “convincing evidence” of Hussein’s involvement in the insurgency, and still considers him to be a “terrorist media operative who infiltrated the AP,” though one that is no longer a threat.

I don't think it comes as any surprise here that the ap would disingenuously misconstrue hussein's release, but the real question is: will they continue to employ him despite the evidence against him? Time will tell.

64 Grammy Cracker  4/18/08 7:10:18 pm reply quote

re: #48 wolfie

It's so cruel. And so entirely unnecessary.
And these people are monitoring our sensitivity?!

Oh, I envy your patience in working with Downs patients....and the rewards you must have had from doing it. The only person w/ Downs I ever came into real contact with was the little sister of my college roommate. She was the most delightful, kindest person in the world!

Every Downs patient I ever worked with was loving, sweet and affectionate. Because they often lack *normal* impulse control, they can be quite strong and even aggressive when upset, but that does not seem to be the case in this story. He gave her a push and asked her to go away. End of controversy, or should have been....

65 wolfie  4/18/08 7:10:52 pm reply quote

re: #63 Sharmuta

I don't think it comes as any surprise here that the ap would disingenuously misconstrue hussein's release, but the real question is: will they continue to employ him despite the evidence against him? Time will tell.

Oh dear. That is the question.

66 Grammy Cracker  4/18/08 7:10:54 pm reply quote

re: #53 savage_nation

Oh, they know whats best for us, don't ya know?

The Obamessiah will fix it......

67 Sol Roth  4/18/08 7:11:36 pm reply quote
An amnesty committee reviewing the charges against Hussein judged neither the merits of the case nor his guilt or innocence, but instead looked “exclusively at the categorization of the charges relative to provisions of the Amnesty Law,” according to a U.S. military release. The review came roughly a month after an Iraqi judge determined on March 11, 2008, that the weight of evidence was sufficient to refer his case to trial. Military sources confirm that Hussein was released only because the specific terrorism-related crimes with which he was charged fall inside the parameters of Iraq’s new amnesty laws, not because of a lack of evidence.

The flag of Rule of Law just ran up the pole. If you've ever been on a military base when they do this, the whole contingent stops, covers-to-chest, or salutes. NO ONE protects his/her crotch.

Understand the mission, understand the tactics. Bilal continues to be Bilal. Freedom continues to be Freedom.

Check.
Islam...

68 jaunte  4/18/08 7:12:06 pm reply quote

re: #58 wolfie

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! You have been in the lion's den.

Hyenas and rats, more like. Vicious careerist petty tyrants who cared far more for their pitiful jobs than their pitiful charges. Luckily, we didn't get much on us.

69 opnion  4/18/08 7:14:20 pm reply quote

re: #46 nyc redneck

this guy is a terrorist media operative. he is the enemy, hiding behind the msm, who is also the enemy. we are going to have to accept these facts at some point, to win this war. as we engage in a win friends-influence people war, the enemy comes at us, savagely, on all fronts.

I do not disagree with that. But why is the MSM the enemy?
I think that they find the anti American schitck very hip & edgy.
If their ass was on the line ,they would be very happy for the presence of US Marines

70 Syrah  4/18/08 7:14:33 pm reply quote

Are any of the new lizards going to have the courage to stop in and say hello?

71 savage_nation[deleted]  4/18/08 7:14:46 pm
72 Sharmuta  4/18/08 7:15:17 pm reply quote

re: #65 wolfie

Oh dear. That is the question.

It really is.

73 wolfie  4/18/08 7:15:54 pm reply quote

re: #68 jaunte

Hyenas and rats, more like. Vicious careerist petty tyrants who cared far more for their pitiful jobs than their pitiful charges. Luckily, we didn't get much on us.

Indeed....what my father used to call "little corporals," those with a little sphere of power, more pompous and demanding than any general.

74 Grammy Cracker  4/18/08 7:17:22 pm reply quote

re: #69 opnion

I do not disagree with that. But why is the MSM the enemy?
I think that they find the anti American schitck very hip & edgy.
If their ass was on the line ,they would be very happy for the presence of US Marines

I think you give them too much credit. They are the one's who helped perpetuate the myth that our Marines raped and murdered at Haditha. They cheered when John F'n Murtha called our Marines cold-blooded murderers. They sold the story that putting panties on little Mo's head is TORTURE......

/ptoooie! A pox on all their houses!

75 wolfie  4/18/08 7:19:05 pm reply quote

re: #71 savage_nation

Oh, you think that situation in Britain is bad, look at

76 Grammy Cracker  4/18/08 7:21:18 pm reply quote

re: #75 wolfie

Good grief. Good grief.

Thank you, feminazis! Little boys are natural born predators who should be brow-beaten and drugged into submission. The metro-sexual, neutered girly-man is born!

77 jaunte  4/18/08 7:21:40 pm reply quote

re: #73 wolfie

The people we (the state) employ to oversee the placement and adoption of wards of the state have an overwhelming amount of unseen and unaccountable power over the way their wards will turn out to affect the larger society. If they abuse that power, the effects will be delayed and unknown until the children they've failed become adults.

78 Sarge1984  4/18/08 7:22:53 pm reply quote

re: #76 Grammy Cracker

Thank you, feminazis! Little boys are natural born predators who should be brow-beaten and drugged into submission. The metro-sexual, neutered girly-man is born!

Meanwhile, it's the teenage girls that are growing more and more violent, more and more hateful, and just plain mean.

79 x-ray  4/18/08 7:23:12 pm reply quote

re: #74 Grammy Cracker
/ptoooie! A pox on all their houses!

NY times, the pox is upon them.

80 opnion  4/18/08 7:23:13 pm reply quote

re: #74 Grammy Cracker

I think you give them too much credit. They are the one's who helped perpetuate the myth that our Marines raped and murdered at Haditha. They cheered when John F'n Murtha called our Marines cold-blooded murderers. They sold the story that putting panties on little Mo's head is TORTURE......

/ptoooie! A pox on all their houses!

All good points. They do not like the Marines, or any of our troops really.
They have kinda given up the pretense. I am saying that they would be happy to accept the rescue of the very troops that they disparage.
Afterwards of course, they would continue to mock them.

81 savage_nation[deleted]  4/18/08 7:24:11 pm
82 wolfie  4/18/08 7:25:15 pm reply quote

re: #76 Grammy Cracker

re: #77 jaunte

It's all for the children, right? Right? SPIT

83 opnion  4/18/08 7:25:18 pm reply quote

re: #76 Grammy Cracker

Thank you, feminazis! Little boys are natural born predators who should be brow-beaten and drugged into submission. The metro-sexual, neutered girly-man is born!

The greatest high profile advocate for little boys is, Laura Bush.

84 swamprat  4/18/08 7:27:24 pm reply quote

the ....siege........begins

Sadr walled in, sealed off, and seems to be running out of options

85 wolfie  4/18/08 7:28:55 pm reply quote

re: #81 savage_nation

They talk a "liberated," sophisticated game, but at heart they're a bunch of puritan whackos. Maybe they should just put their aides...and other women.... in burkas.
The convergence between the left and the Islamicists becomes ever more evident.

86 savage_nation[deleted]  4/18/08 7:37:27 pm
87 nyc redneck  4/18/08 7:37:37 pm reply quote

re: #69 opnion

I do not disagree with that. But why is the MSM the enemy?
I think that they find the anti American schitck very hip & edgy.
If their ass was on the line ,they would be very happy for the presence of US Marines

the msm for the most part sides w/ the enemy. this is a treachery that is unacceptable in war. the lies and misreporting are bad for soldier moral. and bad for the moral of our country and the world, also. imagine how our soldiers feel to read all that quirky "anti-american schitck " that is so edgy and hip". a lot of that bs could get our soldiers killed. how can the msm be so cavalier w/ their lives? it is because they don't give a shit or in fact are they doing this purposefully ? fck the msm that lies and distorts to be edgy.

88 Purple Prose  4/18/08 7:41:33 pm reply quote

re: #64 Grammy Cracker

The problem is that Western society has become mechanized. Our laws are made to protect the largest number of people under that widest range of circumstances, but they are predicated on a certain sense of fair play. That is, they assume that insane people with insane ideological/religious motivations, people who are easily aroused and are comfortable with lying in the most brazen ways, simply do not exist. But we live in a different day and age with a different demographic in our midst.

The vast majority of people raised in the West know that if they lie and make extreme overreaching allegations against anyone, they'd better back it up. The Islamic world has not such concept. Justice in the Islamic world is a Sharia sham, and so when Muslims get to the West, they quickly realize it is a ripe juicy fruit just waiting to be plucked. Too many unassimilated Muslims do not have the same sense of proportion that even most Western litigants have: that if you lie, you'd better make it a good lie. Plus, they are pumped with a sense of self-righteousness and grievance, sadly fueled by the multicultural enterprise.

They talk to their family and friends when they feel vaguely slighted, and their friends and family say, the West is anti-Islam and also weak and exploitable and you can use the legal system in any way you want, and you should, since it is your duty to stand up when you feel shame has been brought upon you in any way. This injustice you have suffered is the result of Kaffir Islamophobia, and besides that you can make a lot of money. If not, you can at least make the Kaffir hurt.

So they go after everyone. Even the poor Down's syndrome children. The family of the girl, almost certainly recent immigrants to the UK and benefitting from the special needs programs their new country has to offer, was probably worked up into making this into a criminal case by family and friends who are both unassimilated and viciously exploitative, if not outright subversive in their Islamic supremacism. They want money and they want revenge. That is all they see. No compassion. Not even for children with a mental age of five.

89 savage_nation[deleted]  4/18/08 7:42:20 pm
90 Intrepid  4/18/08 7:50:38 pm reply quote

re: #71 savage_nation

Oh, you think that situation in Britain is bad, look at this !

I just told another driver here at the truckstop about that story and he gave me the hat tip for this post.

/4 year old boy labeled a sex pervert. 4 years old!

Oh Good Lord! A 4-year old takes comfort in the bosom of a woman, and it's considered "perverted". He's still a very small child, and if he was upset, OF COURSE he would look for comfort!

Must have been a lefty who reported him....

God bless the lil' guy.

91 savage_nation[deleted]  4/18/08 7:55:54 pm
92 ypnxjkb  4/18/08 7:59:33 pm reply quote

betcha mr doofas has gotten himself on his way to good ole USA or gotten a new job in the "green zone". He will get arrested AGAIN and will have to sit in jail waiting for a couple of years and then get Amnesty again. SWEET!

93 revobob  4/18/08 8:14:25 pm reply quote

re #70 Syrah- I haven't figured out how to read to catch up and still post in time- and were you wining?

94 LeePro  4/18/08 8:14:49 pm reply quote

re: #79 x-ray

/ptoooie! A pox on all their houses!

NY times, the pox is upon them.

Um.
That appears to be the chart for the York Water Co.

95 LeePro  4/18/08 8:18:49 pm reply quote

re: #79 x-ray

/ptoooie! A pox on all their houses!

NY times, the pox is upon them.

Here is the New York Times chart.

96 yenta-fada  4/18/08 8:27:50 pm reply quote

re: #13 Purple Prose

How does the stupid article get all the way through the story without ONCE mentioning the name of this "Asian" girl? Why is a young Down's syndrome boy subjected to being named in the press? Cowardly mainstream media will not take on a single Muslim. The plan of moaning, rioting and acting like ten year olds with bombs is doing well all over the world. Thank heaven for the internet and LGF. Islamic Imperialism funded by oil has 'bought' much of what passes for reporting in the West. Same with the backing for Barack the faux American.

97 Purple Prose  4/18/08 9:00:27 pm reply quote

re: #96 yenta-fada

How does the stupid article get all the way through the story without ONCE mentioning the name of this "Asian" girl? Why is a young Down's syndrome boy subjected to being named in the press? Cowardly mainstream media will not take on a single Muslim. The plan of moaning, rioting and acting like ten year olds with bombs is doing well all over the world. Thank heaven for the internet and LGF. Islamic Imperialism funded by oil has 'bought' much of what passes for reporting in the West. Same with the backing for Barack the faux American.

I agree. I don't know much about the British legal system, but, if there is any possibility of a favorable outcome without more cost and stress to this poor family, I would hope they would sue the British state and the family of this "Asian" girl for malicious prosecution and defamation.

98 Ward Cleaver  4/18/08 9:28:22 pm reply quote

Put his sorry ass on a plane and fly him to Gitmo.

99 Promethea  4/18/08 9:44:54 pm reply quote

re: #69 opnion

But why is the MSM the enemy?
I think that they find the anti American schitck very hip & edgy.
If their ass was on the line ,they would be very happy for the presence of US Marines

This is my explanation as well. A lot of political opinions that I see, due to lack of real knowledge, boil down to the desire to be "hip and edgy."

Sad, but true. Most people who think they're "progressive" turn out to be quite shallow. Fashion statements trump all other concerns (until the cool people need help. Then they dial 911.)

100 Genosaurer  4/19/08 12:05:08 am reply quote

re: #70 Syrah

Are any of the new lizards going to have the courage to stop in and say hello?

Hello!

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101 Sacred Plants  4/19/08 3:02:47 am reply quote

Amnesty? A-M-N-E-S-T-Y ? ? ? Must be something about Tibet!

102 alegrias  4/19/08 8:09:22 am reply quote

OT: The Meaning of De-ranged pro-AlQaida Moslems with Nukes:

Pakistan nuclear missile tests Shaheen-2 with 2,000 kilometer range; new Paki Prime Minister Guilani brags Pakistan's nuke program is not US-controlled. Head of Paki Military,General Kiyani (ally of Musharraf), was NOT present, as is normal protocol.

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