Shockeroo!

well, at least they're being honest, and not taqqiyizing

I can change them!
/Rabbit Bait

Breaking news from September 28, 2000.

Color me surprised.

/

More than half of them favor suicide bombing...carried out by other people, of course.

Ya sure. We can negotiate with people like that. No problem.

/

re: #6 zombie

Psh, where's the fun in that? I thought the whole point was to earn one's 72 virgins by blowing oneself into unidentifiable bits. Although they manage well enough at that without putting innocent people in danger.

The Palestinian public is divided on the rocket attacks on Israel: 39.3% said the firing of these rockets was “useful” to Palestinian national interests, while 35.7% said they were harmful.

Where exactly are these 35.7% with half a brian cell?

They seem quite adept at making themselves sparse.

Man, if this isn't a peace seeking people then I don't know who is.

State.
/

Swiftboating the Palestinians.

more than half of them favor suicide bombings

Sadistic animals!

And those are just the moderates.

re: #9 zombie

The Palestinian public is divided on the rocket attacks on Israel: 39.3% said the firing of these rockets was “useful” to Palestinian national interests, while 35.7% said they were harmful.

Where exactly are these 35.7% with half a brian cell?

They seem quite adept at making themselves sparse.

There's nothing wrong with self-preservation.

re: #9 zombie

The polling sample is skewed. They included every single moderate Palestinian they could find, in order to make the numbers believable.

Yes, all two of them.

If they had taken the poil in Hell, the results would have been a little different:

100% now believe that suicide bombing was a terrible unforgiveable moral atrocity and that they wish they had realized this before pushing the detonator.

re: #11 Who Watches the Watchmen?

State.
/

Now that's the kind of concision we all should strive for! Maximum sarcasm in seven little characters!

Is it just me or has the situation there dramatically deteriorated since Jimmah went over there?

re: #9 zombie

Where exactly are these 35.7% with half a brian cell?

They seem quite adept at making themselves sparse.

It's possible that the half that favor violence are making them quite literally "sparse."

The death and aggression element of that culture hit critical mass a long time ago.

re: #17 zombie

If they had taken the poil in Hell, the results would have been a little different:

100% now believe that suicide bombing was a terrible unforgiveable moral atrocity and that they wish they had realized this before pushing the detonator.

Hopefully in Hell they'll be forced to blow themselves up eternally.

re: #9 zombie

Where exactly are these 35.7% with half a brian cell?

They seem quite adept at making themselves sparse.

They probably have a very reasonable fear of dying.

There maybe moderate Muslims out there, but a large enough minority, prepared to use lethal violence, can trump any other faction.

I wonder why the percentage of haters is higher in Gaza than in the West Bank.

This is the type of democracy Jimmy Carter supports.

Ewoks.

How were so many of them tricked into answering honestly.?

I, for one, welcome our new Jihadi overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted ex-President of the United States I could be useful in rounding up others to toil in their underground weapon smuggling caves.

re: #17 zombie

If they had taken the poil in Hell, the results would have been a little different:

100% now believe that suicide bombing was a terrible unforgiveable moral atrocity and that they wish they had realized this before pushing the detonator.

Especially when they realize that they're the virgins...

Because the responsibility of governing will compel them to lay down their arms.

This is news? This is business as usual. What will it take for the West, for the World to see islam for what it is? To recognize and admit their all too plainly stated, and oft repeated goals?

1. Destruction of the Jews.

2. Conquest of ALL other peoples of the world.

This is the most depraved, degenerate, dangerous, and destructive culture ever evolved by man. It must be utterly destroyed. It is evil incarnate.

Did I mention that it sucks?...big time!

re: #12 Ben Hur

Swiftboating the Palestinians.

I would prefer Swiftbombing.

re: #26 mean Gene

How were so many of them tricked into answering honestly.?

You may have a point.

We are used to living in a free society.

Those who live under any kind of totalitarian regime live under constant fear and suspicion.

I'm sure many of them feared giving anything but the party line.

They've seen people "visited" in the middle of the night.

re: #21 bosforus

Hopefully in Hell they'll be forced to blow themselves up eternally.

.... while remaining conscious and remembereing the pain for ever and ever ...

re: #23 MandyManners

I wonder why the percentage of haters is higher in Gaza than in the West Bank.

Hamas vs. Fatah?

This surprises who? And if it does, why?

BHg

So long All. Gotta go promenade.

re: #31 Cygnus

Heh...........

:-)

BHG

re: #30 M. Bensson-Levi

This is news? This is business as usual. What will it take for the West, for the World to see islam for what it is?

More polls.

/

the arabs generally and the Gaza arabs particularly live intheir own information bubble

they actually believe, the Israelis took the 'good' land, the land with the swimming pools and Universities and hospitals and paved roads

and left the bad Mediterranean coastline and the bleak cisJordan to the arabs

the lands inside the green line was not th rsult of the work and effort of te JEws

it was always fabulous, and of course the arabs made it so

Not to sound morbid (but ok, I will) when Jimmah finally goes quietly to that great peanut field in the sky, can we send that Benedict Arnold's body to the ME for burial? They'll miss him more than we will.

re: #30 M. Bensson-Levi

This is news? This is business as usual. What will it take for the West, for the World to see islam for what it is? To recognize and admit their all too plainly stated, and oft repeated goals?

1. Destruction of the Jews.

2. Conquest of ALL other peoples of the world.

This is the most depraved, degenerate, dangerous, and destructive culture ever evolved by man. It must be utterly destroyed. It is evil incarnate.

Did I mention that it sucks?...big time!

Unfortunately, there are all too many people in this world who would either tacitly or explicitly support #1 above.

Some facts the article left out...

87.9% of Gaza residents either work or live in 'Metal Shops'.
97.7% of Gaza babies are born in 'Metal Shops'
65.4% of Metal Shops are blown up for unknown reasons

All this just makes me sick to my stomach. These murderous scum masquerading as human beings don't deserve the time of day. And then add to that the fact this senile piece of shit ex-president goes to the Middle East and fronts for the suicidal bastards and at the same time doesn't miss an opportunity to take a swipe at Israel. Then to boot, the anti-semitic appeaser actually has the nerve to campaign for Obama overseas. I hope I am making my feelings clear.

And remember, this is with their having a de facto state, an elected government (of terrorists, no less), and no Israeli "occupation". It seems the Jews are the problem, no?

'Palestinians who support bombing attacks against Israeli civilians rose from 44.8% in June 2006 to 48% in September 2006 and to 50.7% now.'

. Increased aid to the Palestinians will continue to bring those numbers up.

I am sure Condsheeta Lice blames the Israelis for this

.....I hate that woman

re: #38 latitude51

This is news? This is business as usual. What will it take for the West, for the World to see islam for what it is?

More polls.

/

You sick f*ck! ;-) You're probably right! Sick world we live in.

Later.

Everything's always suicide bombing to them. Why don't they ever talk about peace, or compromise or apology or forgiveness and hard work towards attaining goals? It's always GIVE US MORE MONEY. And we want to blow you up!

Methinks the Pals need some 'sensitivity training' or something...

re: #40 GMonkey

Not to sound morbid (but ok, I will) when Jimmah finally goes quietly to that great peanut field in the sky, can we send that Benedict Arnold's body to the ME for burial? They'll miss him more than we will.

Let's be fair to Mr. Arnold.

re: #41 rabidsquirrel

Unfortunately, there are all too many people in this world who would either tacitly or explicitly support #1 above.

How appropriate. " In every generation..."

Now, I really gotta go.

re: #30 M. Bensson-Levi

This is the most depraved, degenerate, dangerous, and destructive culture ever evolved by man. It must be utterly destroyed. It is evil incarnate.

Damn you sound like me. ;-)

re: #44 addison

And remember, this is with their having a de facto state, an elected government (of terrorists, no less), and no Israeli "occupation". It seems the Jews are the problem, no?

They were always the problem and will always be the problem, until islam is wiped off the face of the earth.
Mo never forgave them that some of their rabbis didn't fall flat on their faces to adore him but asked questions which he couldn't answer, and actually made fun of him.

"We meet at a time when a great achievement of history is within reach, the creation of a peaceful, democratic Palestinian state. President Abbas is seeking that goal by rejecting violence and working for democratic reform. I believe the Palestinian people are fully capable of justly governing themselves, in peace with their neighbors. I believe the interests of the Israeli people would be served by a peaceful Palestinian state. And I believe that now is the time for all parties of this conflict to move beyond old grievances and act forcefully in the cause of peace."

Bush and Rice supporting, funding, arming, and training Abbas and Fatah- striving for a 'Palestinian' State -is based on as much a lie as Jimmy Carter's views.

Will the policy change with this additional proof that Bush is delusional- if he even believes his own crap- and putting Israel's security in grave danger?

take your medication and read this shit

[Link: electronicintifada.net...]

re: #27 BaronVonOttomatic

Welcome!

OK lets give them a state so Israel can declare war on the overwhelming number that wants a war. Done deal.

my head hurts

re: #47 M. Bensson-Levi

You sick f*ck! ;-) You're probably right! Sick world we live in.

Later.

A great, former Canadian Prime Minister once said "Dogs know what to do with polls"
I'll bet if it wasn't for the fact that Israel occasionally responds to terror attacks, support for them would run much much higher.

re: #39 ploome hineni

the arabs generally and the Gaza arabs particularly live intheir own information bubble

they actually believe, the Israelis took the 'good' land, the land with the swimming pools and Universities and hospitals and paved roads

and left the bad Mediterranean coastline and the bleak cisJordan to the arabs

the lands inside the green line was not th rsult of the work and effort of te JEws

it was always fabulous, and of course the arabs made it so

It's not just the Palis:

NYT's Top Editor Suggests 'Some Resemblance' Between Israel and South African Apartheid

Because it is not wrong to see some resemblance to South Africa in the way Israelis drew up Palestinian homelands that serve Israeli interests while leaving the Palestinians poor and divided.

re: #34 rabidsquirrel

re: #23 MandyManners

I wonder why the percentage of haters is higher in Gaza than in the West Bank.

Hamas vs. Fatah?

But, isn't Fatah also dedicated to the destruction of Israel? If so, are they taking a passive role, hiding their goals in order to curry favor from Israel and the U.S.? Is that why there are fewer attacks from the West Bank?

The Republic of Jimmy Carter urges restraint.

re: #54 ploome hineni

take your medication and read this shit

[Link: electronicintifada.net...]

There isn't enough medication to compensate for that
UGH

Pastor Jeremiah Wright agrees.

re: #54 ploome hineni

take your medication and read this shit

[Link: electronicintifada.net...]

Sorry, my Doc won't write me anything that's strong enough.

Eh... Hamas... Fatah....

one is "DEATH to Jews"

the other is "Death to JEWS"

At that point, is there really a difference?

re: #54 ploome hineni

take your medication and read this shit

[Link: electronicintifada.net...]

Its so evil that I don't see any point in even trying to make out which parts are more and which are less evil.

Words fail me.

re: #43 Nevergiveup

All this just makes me sick to my stomach. These murderous scum masquerading as human beings don't deserve the time of day. And then add to that the fact this senile piece of shit ex-president goes to the Middle East and fronts for the suicidal bastards and at the same time doesn't miss an opportunity to take a swipe at Israel. Then to boot, the anti-semitic appeaser actually has the nerve to campaign for Obama overseas. I hope I am making my feelings clear.

Upding to the 1000th power.

This is impossible.

Condi and W already said that most Palestinians want to have peace and the ability to develop a normal society.

They wouldn't lie, would they?

Why would they possibly lie?

There is no way they would be risking Israel's well being just because the Saudis demand it, right?

Right?

re: #60 MandyManners

re: #23 MandyManners

I wonder why the percentage of haters is higher in Gaza than in the West Bank.

But, isn't Fatah also dedicated to the destruction of Israel? If so, are they taking a passive role, hiding their goals in order to curry favor from Israel and the U.S.? Is that why there are fewer attacks from the West Bank?

GOOD COP/BAD COP.

39.3% said the firing of these rockets was “useful” to Palestinian national interests, while 35.7% said they were harmful.

Well, THAT explains why only 39.3% of Palestinians are firing rockets at Israel.

re: #61 chinesearithmetic

The Republic of Jimmy Carter urges restraint.

I urge restraints on Carter, preferably of the steel kind.

re: #9 zombie

Where exactly are these 35.7% with half a brian cell?

They seem quite adept at making themselves sparse.

They're afraid of the 39.3%.

re: #54 ploome hineni

take your medication and read this shit

[Link:

re: #71 MandyManners

I urge restraints on Carter, preferably of the steel kind.

And a tiger cage.

Jimmy Carter - stuck on stupid for over 30 years.

re: #71 MandyManners

I urge restraints on Carter, preferably of the steel kind.

And to which part of the body would you prefer them to be attached?

Malaisestinians.

re: #76 latitude51

And to which part of the body would you prefer them to be attached?

His pee-pee?

/wouldn't that be microscopic?

re: #9 zombie

Where exactly are these 35.7% with half a brian cell?

They seem quite adept at making themselves sparse.

What we need is an 'Extremist Bomb' - like an 'Ethnic Bomb' but it blows up jihadists and leaves moderates alone.

re: #72 Ward Cleaver

They're afraid of the 39.3%.

cowardice does seem to be a prevalent myhowmadan trait, doesn't it?

i wonder if they teach it in the madrassas, or if the kids learn it from their burly fathers...

:-D

re: #53 Opinionated

"We meet at a time when a great achievement of history is within reach, the creation of a peaceful, democratic Palestinian state. President Abbas is seeking that goal by rejecting violence and working for democratic reform. I believe the Palestinian people are fully capable of justly governing themselves, in peace with their neighbors. I believe the interests of the Israeli people would be served by a peaceful Palestinian state. And I believe that now is the time for all parties of this conflict to move beyond old grievances and act forcefully in the cause of peace."

Bush and Rice supporting, funding, arming, and training Abbas and Fatah- striving for a 'Palestinian' State -is based on as much a lie as Jimmy Carter's views.

Will the policy change with this additional proof that Bush is delusional- if he even believes his own crap- and putting Israel's security in grave danger?

Bush is not delusional.

Remember what America's Israel policy is all about:

'We need you to bleed, and, more importantly, to be seen to bleed, by the Arab world. We will shrink you down, over time, and in return for Arab acquiescence to our needs and machinations in the wider middle east, to the smallest size sustainable by the best military technology and diplomatic invention. When the technology improves, we can and will shrink you down further. This will continue until our needs in the middle east are fulfilled. You cannot refuse. By refusing, you will lose the American veto in the UN Security Council. This will subject you crippling sanctions. You will also lose access to critical military spare parts you must have, and you will lose assurance of resupply in the event of war with your neighbors. '

It is no doubt laminated on a wallet sized card issued to every new State Department employee, including secretaries, maintenance engineers, and facility landscapers.

re: #74 Ward Cleaver

re: #71 MandyManners

I urge restraints on Carter, preferably of the steel kind.

And a tiger cage.

With a long stick with which to poke him at times.

re: #76 latitude51

I urge restraints on Carter, preferably of the steel kind.

And to which part of the body would you prefer them to be attached?

I'm getting an image of Hannibal Lecter.

re: #78 Ward Cleaver

Your former President is a peanut farmer, right?

Of course, the only people in the world who have not yet realized that the Baker-Bush/Rice Admin is a lame duck that need not be taken seriously are the equally inept Israeli team of Olmert and Livni.

Barak showed a flash of testicle a few weeks ago when he said he had not time for 'palestinian charades', but has buckled since.

re: #77 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Malaisestinians.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Help
I'm trying to locate the lfg post about Hamas endorsing Obama but I can't find it. Does anyone have the link to the article or to the original post on LFG? Time is of the essence, if you can help

re: #39 ploome hineni

the arabs generally and the Gaza arabs particularly live intheir own information bubble

they actually believe, the Israelis took the 'good' land, the land with the swimming pools and Universities and hospitals and paved roads

and left the bad Mediterranean coastline and the bleak cisJordan to the arabs

the lands inside the green line was not th rsult of the work and effort of te JEws

it was always fabulous, and of course the arabs made it so

Remarkably similar to the views of Mecha and La Raza whackos in the US southwest.

re: #83 MandyManners

I urge restraints on Carter, preferably of the steel kind.

I'm getting an image of Hannibal Lecter.

Heh. And here I was thinking of the guy in New York's Central Park who got caught with the rope around his neck and his nether regions.

re: #84 latitude51

Your former President is a peanut farmer, right?

Some would argue he resembles his produce.

re: #84 latitude51

Your former President is a peanut farmer, right?

Yep, he cultivates nuts.

re: #71 MandyManners

I urge restraints on Carter, preferably of the steel kind.

I'm not sure - maybe he's into that *ahem* sort of thing.

re: #87 Ariana

Help
I'm trying to locate the lfg post about Hamas endorsing Obama but I can't find it. Does anyone have the link to the article or to the original post on LFG? Time is of the essence, if you can help

This is all I can find right now. It's a video about Obama's campaign in Gaza.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

The Jerusalem Post article is misleading.

Reading the Report itself (conducted by the Jerusalem Media & Communications Center) gives even more shocking results:

In their question

How do you feel about the suicide bombing operations against Israeli civilians? Do you strongly support it, somewhat support it, somewhat oppose it, or strongly oppose it?

only 18.1% of the paleosimians answered "Strongly Oppose". A shocking 28.4% answered "Somewhat Oppose" but they have been included in the 50.7% above. What the f*ck means "somewhat oppose?!?!?! other than approve this bestiality under certain circumstances?

The fact is that only 18.1% of the responders really oppose to suicide bombing, and 79.1% approve killing civilians under all or some circumstances.

Pure sickening depravity. These people are a complete waste of DNA.

The MSM today is full of "Hamas promises truce if Israel returns to 1967 borders."

I'm sure that sounds like a fair trade to Jimmy Carter. And, probably, to many Chicago Tribune readers.

It just sounds so... reasonable. So long as it's not spelled out as, "Hamas asks Israel to give Hamas land and freedom of movement so it can build up its forces toward the final destruction of Israel."

It is difficult to describe the folly of negotiating with someone who has repeatedly stated that they'll settle for nothing less than your total elimination (aka "final status talks," in Carter-ese).

re: #94 Clareman

Typo: I meant "they have not been included"

Mandy,
Thanks for your help. I'm a debate with a group of students stating that Mccain was endorsed by HAMAS. An obvious lie, but I need to present some hard evidence.

re: #87 Ariana

LFG?

re: #97 Ariana

Mandy,
Thanks for your help. I'm a debate with a group of students stating that Mccain was endorsed by HAMAS. An obvious lie, but I need to present some hard evidence.

What in the world?!

re: #94 Clareman

"These people are a complete waste of DNA."

you are being much too kind...

/deleted fer sure

I notice there wasn't even an option on this poll asking whether it was wrong to kill civilians indiscriminately, just whether it was in palestinians self interest to kill civilians indiscriminately.

The 'palestinians' seem to think they are genius sophists.

Check this out:

"We agree to a (Palestinian) state on pre-67 borders, with Jerusalem as its capital with genuine sovereignty without settlements but without recognizing Israel," Mashaal said.

From JPOST.

That anyone bothers to interlocute with them, instead of hunting them down and killing them, is a testament to the power of the fear Islam and hatred of Jews.

What a deal:

Meshal offers 10-year truce for Palestinian state on '67 borders

Hamas' political leader Khaled Meshal on Monday said Hamas would accept a Palestinian state on only part of the land it claims and would grant Israel a 10-year hudna, or truce, as an implicit proof of recognition if Israel withdraws from those areas.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Give us land, an area where we can train, import weapons and when we are ready, we'll kill you in 10 years.

This is not just Hamas' plan. This is the Abbas- Fatah plan which is assisted by Bush/Rice/Olmert/Livni.

re: #87 Ariana

[my.search.engine] Hamas Obama
turned up several hits. Here are a couple:
Obama Seeks Distance From Hamas
Hamas Endorses Obama

Hamas wants Israel's borders to be "pre-1967". A cute trick in language, since 1946 is also "pre-1967".

Mandy: never underestimate the depths to which some Obamanics are willing to decend. btw..if you or anyone finds the link to the article about the US based HAMAS person announcing they "liked" Obama it would help. thanks again.

re: #97 Ariana

Mandy,
Thanks for your help. I'm a debate with a group of students stating that Mccain was endorsed by HAMAS. An obvious lie, but I need to present some hard evidence.

* * *
McCain is endorsed by JOE LIEBERMAN and AIPAC (American Israeli Political Action Committee).

McCain said Carter's meeting with Hamas was disgraceful & disgusting.

re: #101 Neo Con since 9/11

I notice there wasn't even an option on this poll asking whether it was wrong to kill civilians indiscriminately, just whether it was in palestinians self interest to kill civilians indiscriminately.

That would be the case if the poll was conducted by a decent organization and not by a bunch of propagandist parasites...

From the Jerusalem Media & Communications Center website:

JMCC was established in 1988 by a group of Palestinian journalists and researchers to provide information on events in the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and the Gaza Strip.

re: #107 alegrias

* * *
McCain is endorsed by JOE LIEBERMAN and AIPAC (American Israeli Political Action Committee).

McCain said Carter's meeting with Hamas was disgraceful & disgusting.

AIPAC doesn't endorse anyone.

thank you abolutionist

re: #81 Maine's Michael

Rice is absolutely not delusion. Just as anti Israel as Carter.

But, evidenced by things he says, and decisions he makes, on other matters, I am no longer so sure about Bush.

I remember watching in horror as the militant Irish raised a generation of psychotic terrorists from their own children.

Politically, I'm not comparing the Palestinians to the IRA. Bit I can't help but look back at the waste of humanity that this type of movement always produces.

It's just awful.

The bastard children of Abraham have always, and will always be a force that uses chaos and terror as tools to create the anarchy that they so long for.

Appeasing them does no good, and in fact only provides them fuel for the fire and strengthens their resolve.

It helps me to at least understand why those of the west chose to engage Islam during the Crusades.

People don't change...only styles do.

re: #109 Opinionated

AIPAC doesn't endorse anyone.

* * *
McCain hosted 700 AIPAC members at his ranch, but you're right, that doesn't mean they endorse him...

re: #114 Maximu§

Banned?..I don't know, but you will very likely be deleted.

re: #66 yma o hyd

Its so evil that I don't see any point in even trying to make out which parts are more and which are less evil.

Words fail me.

its out there, and growing exponentally

the protocols in th 21st century

same shit, different century

re: #111 Opinionated

Rice is absolutely not delusion. Just as anti Israel as Carter.

But, evidenced by things he says, and decisions he makes, on other matters, I am no longer so sure about Bush.

BUsh is a puppet..bought and paid for

going through the motions ASSIGNED him

re: #115 Ringo the Gringo

Banned?..I don't know, but you will very likely be deleted.

Yeah, I'm sure it will be deleted Gringo....God Forbid we wish Death on the people who want us Dead.