The Problem with Brigitte
Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:47:02 pm PDT
Here’s Dissident Frogman on The problem with Brigitte Bardot.
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Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:47:02 pm PDT
Here’s Dissident Frogman on The problem with Brigitte Bardot.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:24:34pm |
OT: if anyone has the video of Kos and Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Bill Maher I'd love to see it.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:24:58pm |
re: #18 Mich-again
Is that like an 'overtheshoulderboulderholder?
(Boob thread!)
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:25:06pm |
re: #1 Salem
Yes, but how does she feel about Intelligent Design?...
Shaddap!
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rain of lead Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:25:07pm |
The first time she came home and said "watch what I learned today"
and then put her hand over her heart and said the Pledge word for word without missing a beat....I almost fell out of my chair with surprise. shed a tear, I'll admit it
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:25:07pm |
re: #48 LoFlyer
European laws regarding freedom of speech are a joke. I mean sending someone to jail for saying the holocaust never occurred is a travesty of justice. I may disagree against the stated opinion, but sending them to jail? As much as I dislike the media's infatuation with Marxist ideology, should we send them all to jail? Opposing opinions and debate is the cornerstone of western democracy. This is thought control.
Its free as long as you stick to the approved line. Part of the reason we are a nation instead of a common wealth.
Some times I find myself in the position of defending a persons right to say what I very much disagree with, and some times I find myself objecting to the constitutionality of a law I think serves a very good purpose.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:25:35pm |
re: #64 soulpile
What is a living bra? Reconstructive surgery?
The only other link I could find was joke about a bra that committed suicide.
Think Twister. You put your left hand here, you put your right hand there....
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LoFlyer Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:25:50pm |
Bailing out guys, got chores to do. Catch you on the flip side....
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:26:16pm |
re: #18 Mich-again
Brigitte needs an industrial duty German bra, a Stoppenzemfromfloppin.
At this point she needs giant sardine can keys, so she can roll them up.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:26:19pm |
re: #65 LoFlyer
Nowadays you only find that on a few blogs, like this. I would love to see a wide-open, free debate between our presidential candidates, and that is not going to happen if either of our two political parties have their say....
Pessimism such as yours?
Horsefeathers and poppycock.
Oh, and tommyrot, too.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:27:01pm |
re: #76 MandyManners
Pessimism such as yours?
Horsefeathers and poppycock.
Oh, and tommyrot, too.
Now you're just showing off!
/LOL
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:27:13pm |
re: #72 Grammy Cracker
Think Twister. You put your left hand here, you put your right hand there....
Drunk Naked Twister?
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rawmuse Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:27:24pm |
When Brigit Bardot represents the voice of sanity, you know you are in big trouble.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:27:59pm |
re: #79 Ward Cleaver
Drunk Naked Twister?
Only in college......
/Or were you ordering a drink?
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:28:07pm |
re: #75 Ward Cleaver
At this point she needs giant sardine can keys, so she can roll them up.
Need I go into the effects of gravity upon tesitcles?
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Crimsonfisted Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:28:55pm |
re: #76 MandyManners
Pessimism such as yours?
Horsefeathers and poppycock.
Oh, and tommyrot, too.
And, in keeping with the booby theme:
Boulderdash!
And my Red Skelton link didn;t take.
Working without a mouse is as dangerous for me as working without a net.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:29:06pm |
re: #78 Grammy Cracker
Now you're just showing off!
/LOL
I got some more where that came from.
Of course, I could always go with, "You're fucking nuts" but, I won't.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:29:39pm |
re: #82 MandyManners
Need I go into the effects of gravity upon tesitcles?
Nope.
/do your balls hang high, do your balls hang low...
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soulpile Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:30:27pm |
re: #72 Grammy Cracker
& re: #74 JeremyR
Ah! That's some scary Twister game. Thanks for the enlightenment.
Though, can't see how it would save your back, more like break it and then some. :)
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soulpile Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:31:25pm |
re: #87 Ward Cleaver
/can you tie them in a knot, can you tie them in a bow? Ohhhh...
(though I sing that song about ears)
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:31:59pm |
re: #85 MandyManners
I got some more where that came from.
Of course, I could always go with, "You're fucking nuts" but, I won't.
But when it fits.....
/go for it!
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itellu3times Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:32:57pm |
Hey Charles, did you already fix the code so it loads/unloads faster?
Or is it just the much shorter thread!
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Bloodnok Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:33:03pm |
re: #76 MandyManners
Pessimism such as yours?
Horsefeathers and poppycock.
Oh, and tommyrot, too.
Babble, Burble, bickerbickerbicker, brouhaha (Elephant Talk)
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gman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:33:19pm |
re: #16 lawhawk
I'm inclined to agree with DF. Her situation sort of reminds me of the situation with Lionheart - defend the rights of people to free speech, but that the individuals themselves shouldn't necessarily be held up as paragons of virtue.
Lionheart was a special case, though. This is a person who feels that he is on a divine mission from God. He rants and raves on his website like a lunatic. I had a hell of a time believing the police we're even after him.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:33:29pm |
re: #84 Crimsonfisted
And, in keeping with the booby theme:
Boulderdash!And my Red Skelton link didn;t take.
Working without a mouse is as dangerous for me as working without a net.
You must live in Colorado.
(I'm not an utter snarky bitch.)
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Widow'smight Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:34:09pm |
re: #82 MandyManners
Why yes, please do! What will happen to me?
Let's see, 49-1/2. What range am I in?
Clint Eastwood's Hangin' High or Low Rider?
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:34:23pm |
re: #87 Ward Cleaver
Nope.
/do your balls hang high, do your balls hang low...
Can you throw them over your shoulder like a Continental soldier?
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:34:53pm |
re: #77 EC Marm
Reported that's a gem. Watching the leftists attack Ayaan is worth it's weight in gold!
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:34:58pm |
re: #91 Grammy Cracker
But when it fits.....
/go for it!
It just happens.
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EC Marm Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:35:19pm |
re: #88 Killgore Trout
Awesome. thanks!
It looks like there are a couple parts to the video, which should show up on the right. If not, my search phrase was "Ayaan Hirsi Ali Bill Maher"
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rawmuse Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:35:32pm |
I knew a guy that had 3 testicles. He eventually opened a pawn shop.
/cymbal crash...
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Crimsonfisted Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:35:41pm |
re: #95 MandyManners
You must live in Colorado.
(I'm not an utter snarky bitch.)
I would NEVER say that about you. Ever.
And I don't live in Coors country, more's the pity. Although I did enjoy the brewery tour.
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rain of lead Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:36:44pm |
re: #84 Crimsonfisted
And, in keeping with the booby theme:
Boulderdash!And my Red Skelton link didn;t take.
Working without a mouse is as dangerous for me as working without a net.
OMG I have not heard that in years...
Thank you!
I am going to have her watch this so she will have a better understanding of the words she is saying
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RedWhiteAndJew Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:37:04pm |
#97 MandyManners
re: #87 Ward Cleaver
Nope.
/do your balls hang high, do your balls hang low...
Can you throw them over your shoulder like a Continental soldier?
very very ow
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Crimsonfisted Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:37:27pm |
re: #102 JeremyR
Gotta be a front close for me. And the elastic criss cross! Ah, the memories.
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DistantThunder Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:37:47pm |
Anyone see the New, hot off the presses Anti-Obama Ad?
I call it Obama the Wimp ad
Site is loading a little slow - must be getting lots of traffic.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:38:12pm |
re: #93 Bloodnok
Babble, Burble, bickerbickerbicker, brouhaha (Elephant Talk)
G. Gordon Liddy has a new gig?
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Crimsonfisted Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:38:45pm |
re: #105 rain of lead
Glad to help. I watch that every once in a while for a lift.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:38:59pm |
re: #103 Crimsonfisted
I would NEVER say that about you. Ever.
And I don't live in Coors country, more's the pity. Although I did enjoy the brewery tour.
Did you take the short cut?
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Bloodnok Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:39:18pm |
re: #109 MandyManners
G. Gordon Liddy has a new gig?
ROFL
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:39:56pm |
I put this in spin-off links earlier and about 60 people looked at it, but it discusses what happens in countries as the Muslim population increases - the article on Bridgette mentioned the size of France's Muslim population, and the article I put in spin-offs describes accurately, I thought, what is going on in France today relative to the percentage of its population that is Muslim. So, I hope no one minds if I simply go ahead and put the link again here:
[Link: frontpagemagazine.com...]
for those who missed it in spin-offs but might be interested in reading this.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:40:12pm |
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formercorpsman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:40:46pm |
re: #98 Killgore Trout
Killgore, I drew the same thing out of it.
Watching the video, here is a woman, who has risen above the ashes in a way that she has, really, escaped with her life, and these jack-asses are lecturing her as if she is some high school girl.
Sanctimonious jerks.
They are not fit to carry her water.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:40:58pm |
re: #103 Crimsonfisted
I would NEVER say that about you. Ever.
And I don't live in Coors country, more's the pity. Although I did enjoy the brewery tour.
Isn't the "You must live in [insert state name here]" assertion the sort of thing that you usually find on sports-related message boards, along with references to your mother, your ancestry, and your dental hygiene?
(I'll shut up now.)
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Widow'smight Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:41:28pm |
re: #101 rawmuse
Did he say he'd Phone Home and like M&M's?
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Crimsonfisted Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:41:44pm |
re: #112 JeremyR
Did you take the short cut?
On the brewery tour, no, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Enjoyed the brew, the scenery, the state. I wish I could be there for the convention!
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:42:14pm |
re: #26 Killgore Trout
Machine Girl
....wait for the Drill Bra.
Snicker. . .
/Isn't human finger sushi supposed to be boneless?
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gymnast Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:42:37pm |
Brigitte Bardot has about as much intellectual horsepower as Paris Hilton and adding both of them together it would sum up to less than that of a half dead mouse.
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Sharmuta Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:44:00pm |
Bottom line: Brigitte Bardot is not Oriana Fallaci, and comparing them can only tarnish the reputation and the character of the sorely missed Italian defendress of the West.
Indeed- comparing a crypto-fascist to an anti-fascist demonstrates that the person making the comparison has no idea of that in which they are speaking. Simply because two people agree on the dangers of islam should in no way be enough to constitute equating them on all things- as recent threads at LGF have clearly shown.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:45:20pm |
re: #123 gymnast
Brigitte Bardot has about as much intellectual horsepower as Paris Hilton and adding both of them together it would sum up to less than that of a half dead mouse.
But Brigitte, back in the day, was a truly sexy goddess-woman. Paris Hilton is wealthy white trash.
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:45:59pm |
re: #71 JeremyR
Its free as long as you stick to the approved line. Part of the reason we are a nation instead of a common wealth.
Some times I find myself in the position of defending a persons right to say what I very much disagree with, and some times I find myself objecting to the constitutionality of a law I think serves a very good purpose.
By definition, "freedom of speech" is the ability to say offensive and unpopular things.
Its amazing how many people really do NOT believe in freedom of speech when it comes right down to it.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:46:40pm |
re: #126 looking closely
By definition, "freedom of speech" is the ability to say offensive and unpopular things.
Its amazing how many people really do NOT believe in freedom of speech when it comes right down to it.
Free speech for ME, but not for THEE....
/agree or be silent.
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Crimsonfisted Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:47:48pm |
re: #117 really grumpy big dog Johnson
Isn't the "You must live in [insert state name here]" assertion the sort of thing that you usually find on sports-related message boards, along with references to your mother, your ancestry, and your dental hygiene?
(I'll shut up now.)
No! I had a thoroughly great time in Denver! Coors is my favorite beer, although when I went on the Bud tour in St Louis, it was Christmas and they had the horses and some colts. Beautiful. Denver was a VERY nice place to visit, it somehow reminded me of Woodstock NY! Really artsy fartsy.
I cannot imagine when the DNC convention hits Denver.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:48:00pm |
re: #115 Grammy Cracker
That is a medieval torture device!
I stick with my original statement, a dirty old man with big hands.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:48:57pm |
re: #90 soulpile
/can you tie them in a knot, can you tie them in a bow? Ohhhh...
(though I sing that song about ears)
Back in high school...
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:48:59pm |
re: #127 ploome hineni
My understanding is that Gawar, the Saudis largest oilfield is not nearly as productive as it used to be. It is so deep now that the product needs to be de-salinated. It didn't need the extra process before. Less easy oil; less easy Saudi money.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:49:07pm |
re: #125 Grammy Cracker
But Brigitte, back in the day, was a truly sexy goddess-woman. Paris Hilton is wealthy white trash.
I'm insulted.
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gymnast Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:49:08pm |
re: #121 ploome hineni
Ploome, one only has to look at Stalin's Soviet Union or Mao's China to see what happens when the government gets into the food business. Looks like Japan needs to think about opening up it's markets to ag imports. North America is the "Saudi Arabia" of food and we are not a part of an "agricultural OPEC". This could bode well for the value of the dollar as well in the not too distant future.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:49:49pm |
re: #129 savage_nation
Don't piss this girl off if you want to live....
/just sayin...
Is that Mandy?
/LOL
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:49:54pm |
re: #131 JeremyR
I stick with my original statement, a dirty old man with big hands.
Bill Clinton?
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Thanos Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:50:03pm |
re: #98 Killgore Trout
re: #77 EC Marm
Reported that's a gem. Watching the leftists attack Ayaan is worth it's weight in gold!
It was funny to watch the males patronize her like she was a child. Maher especially was a condescending idiot. She quite clearly held her own, and all KOS had was same old BDS, different day.
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Widow'smight Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:50:13pm |
re: #127 ploome hineni
1 Trillion Barrels of Oil in the US is what I read. Hundreds of capped wells the Government could allow to be opened.
President Bush brought the issue before congress years ago, only the Conservatives wanted to allow more domestic output.
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rawmuse Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:50:22pm |
re: #126 looking closely
The problem today is that Free Speech and Slander have become indistinguishable.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:51:27pm |
re: #127 ploome hineni
Time for another hand-holding session.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:51:29pm |
re: #135 JeremyR
I'm insulted.
So? I'm a cracker...
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nyc redneck Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:51:37pm |
i think jews should start thinking abt. getting out of europe. they will be caught in the middle of some real ugly bs.
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DistantThunder Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:51:41pm |
Why do commodities speculators have so much power and control? Who are those guys?
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:52:08pm |
re: #142 savage_nation
I don't think Mandy is Thai...
I bet Karradine would like that vid...
Maybe not Thai, but I'll bet she kicks @ss!
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:53:08pm |
re: #146 Grammy Cracker
So? I'm a cracker...
Arer you a white trash cracker though?
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Bloodnok Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:53:29pm |
2300 on Stein. This is getting to be like Cal Ripken. C'mon. let the backup SS start a game.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:54:27pm |
re: #147 nyc redneck
i think jews should start thinking abt. getting out of europe. they will be caught in the middle of some real ugly bs.
In the latter days, God will recall his people to Jerusalem. He will gather the flock that was scattered about.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:55:04pm |
re: #150 JeremyR
Arer you a white trash cracker though?
Well, white to be sure. But trash? Not so much. LOL
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solomonpanting Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:55:19pm |
In an ideal world, or simply a decent country (present France excepted) Brigitte Bardot should definitely not be prosecuted, no matter how stupid or pertinent her opinions.
Yet it is happening no matter what, leaving one with the sole consolation to pick a side—if any—and decide how much one is willing to compromise.
Compromising free speech is not the option I'd choose. Thank God I don't live in France, Germany, Belgium, ...
Thank God I live in the US.
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:55:44pm |
re: #141 rawmuse
The problem today is that Free Speech and Slander have become indistinguishable.
That's a good way of explaining the problem.
Slander/libel is supposed to apply to individuals, not groups, and for good reason, there is a very narrow legal definition.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:56:30pm |
re: #151 Bloodnok
2300 on Stein. This is getting to be like Cal Ripken. C'mon. let the backup SS start a game.
When will Charles close that one?
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:57:09pm |
re: #147 nyc redneck
i think jews should start thinking abt. getting out of europe. they will be caught in the middle of some real ugly bs.
To go where, exactly?
Going to Israel poses another set of "BS" so to speak, and there is no other country that has an open door policy towards Jewish immigration.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:57:23pm |
re: #155 ploome hineni
is that your photo in the avatar?
No, my dream gun.
The pic was popular after 9-11-01 with the title "Hijack What!"
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:57:40pm |
re: #157 ploome hineni
no 13 yrs olds preganant?
No pregnant....ever! I had my kids 'by proxy'. Went straight to Grammy at age 30.
/wouldn't change a thing.....
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:58:08pm |
re: #160 savage_nation
Oh, your one of those typical white girls...
That would be me! LOL
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:58:14pm |
re: #154 Grammy Cracker
Well, white to be sure. But trash? Not so much. LOL
look, you compared me to Paris. Hurt my widdle feeeeeelings. ;-p
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formercorpsman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:58:23pm |
I have been chewing on the theory that we have decided to go ahead and use finally use our food supply as a hedge against OPEC.
Moreover, the reason is based not on any benevolent aspiration for a cleaner environemnt, etc.
It is a hedge against those nations setting crude oil production and prices, creating a problem for them.
We feed the world.
Is this our counter move in the oil chess game?
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Bloodnok Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:59:00pm |
re: #161 Ward Cleaver
When will Charles close that one?
I'm surprised the hamsters haven't died keeping it afloat.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:59:03pm |
I thought Jaguar XKEs were crumpet-catchers.
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Bloodnok Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:59:50pm |
re: #171 Ward Cleaver
I thought Jaguar XKEs were crumpet-catchers.
Never heard it called that.
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JHW Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:59:54pm |
Thanks for putting that vid up EC Marm, Hirsi Ali had to put up with a lot of typical Bill Maher snark. The little twerp yapping about the "decorated veterans" at the Winter Soldier gathering was a real ass too, he practically accused her of being partly responsible for the Iraq War because she was at the American Enterprise Institute, lots of yucks about neo-cons controlling the country. She did quite well for being surrounded by lefties with the time constraints. Maher is really, really hard for me to take for more than 5 seconds, really condescending and sanctimonious.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:00:06pm |
re: #168 JeremyR
look, you compared me to Paris. Hurt my widdle feeeeeelings. ;-p
Oh, my heavens! Didn't mean to compare YOU to HER! You seem very nice and all.....
/Grammy's vewwry, vewwry sorry!
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rawmuse Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:00:09pm |
re: #158 looking closely
That's a good way of explaining the problem.
Slander/libel is supposed to apply to individuals, not groups, and for good reason, there is a very narrow legal definition.
Precisely. So, if some one says "Bush is Hitler" the only one who can press for Slander charges is Bush, no? Yet we are awash with fantastic and untruthful statements about all manner of things, daily.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:01:48pm |
re: #164 JeremyR
No, my dream gun.
The pic was popular after 9-11-01 with the title "Hijack What!"
One of those was recently seized from drug traffickers in Mexico, imported to Mexico from the Dallas area.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:02:11pm |
re: #162 ploome hineni
we need another flood
But in Genesis the Lord promised no more floods.
A missionary teaching in China spoke of Jesus' return and how he would come back with a shout, to which a listener asked what he would shout. After much time and much pressing, the missionary replied he would shout ENOUGH.
Kinda like a parent interupting a fight among the brood, but far far worse.
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DesertSage Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:04:38pm |
Why are we being bombarded with global warming brainwashing?
First it was Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson, now it's Pelosi and Newt! What the hell is going on? I'm getting very bitter!
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:05:21pm |
re: #172 savage_nation
Thirty-year-old grandmother? I'd say thats damn near impossible. At least in my world..
Knew one gal in the service who said her mom was sixteen when she was born, and her grandma only thirty two. Said it was the norm in her family. Ishould have asked if she and her mom were the eldest.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:05:33pm |
re: #173 Bloodnok
Never heard it called that.
It was the late, great, Henry N. Manney, III, of Road and Track.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:05:45pm |
re: #172 savage_nation
Thirty-year-old grandmother? I'd say thats damn near impossible. At least in my world..
The key phrase there was kids *by proxy*! I married four teenagers, so to speak...
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:06:12pm |
Good Evening Lizards! It was a beautiful day in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland this today.
I can't seem to access this post link.
How are you-all this evening and what are we talking about?
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:06:41pm |
re: #165 MandyManners
Grammy, please just let it go.
Sorry, Mandy. I meant it as a compliment.
/all done now.
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nyc redneck Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:06:44pm |
re: #114 reine.de.tout
I put this in spin-off links earlier and about 60 people looked at it, but it discusses what happens in countries as the Muslim population increases - the article on Bridgette mentioned the size of France's Muslim population, and the article I put in spin-offs describes accurately, I thought, what is going on in France today relative to the percentage of its population that is Muslim. So, I hope no one minds if I simply go ahead and put the link again here:
[Link: frontpagemagazine.com...]
for those who missed it in spin-offs but might be interested in reading this.
this is a disturbing scenario. this is exactly how islam comes in and metastasizes. this is how it has spread down thru history. we should be able to come up w/ a cure. it seems predictable.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:06:44pm |
re: #183 Grammy Cracker
The key phrase there was kids *by proxy*! I married four teenagers, so to speak...
That's okay. His wife has the kids. Not him.
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Crimsonfisted Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:07:20pm |
re: #184 ggt
Whatever you wish, but it is booby related here tonight. Go figure. On a Brigitte Bardot thread nonetheless.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:07:44pm |
re: #176 Grammy Cracker
Oh, my heavens! Didn't mean to compare YOU to HER! You seem very nice and all.....
/Grammy's vewwry, vewwry sorry!
Actually, I envy her figure. I wish I was that skinny again. Course, her starving has deprived her brain of precious nutrition at a critical stage in life, it never developed.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:07:57pm |
re: #175 ploome hineni
I was being facetious
Okay! Glad we cleared that up! LOL
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Noam Sayin' Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:08:00pm |
re: #180 DesertSage
Why are we being bombarded with global warming brainwashing?
First it was Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson, now it's Pelosi and Newt! What the hell is going on? I'm getting very bitter!
Here. Cling to this, redneck.
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solomonpanting Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:08:03pm |
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:08:07pm |
Hubby cancelled HBO today. Cable operator told him she did the same thing.
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Bloodnok Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:08:15pm |
re: #182 Ward Cleaver
It was the late, great, Henry N. Manney, III, of Road and Track.
Oops, forgot my naughty innuendo tag! I was kidding.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:08:37pm |
re: #188 MandyManners
*smoochies*
Back attcha!
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:09:12pm |
re: #178 Ward Cleaver
One of those was recently seized from drug traffickers in Mexico, imported to Mexico from the Dallas area.
Drugs come north, guns go south. rare actually. Most of the time they get their arms from Venezuala and Argentina. Good Soviet stuff.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:09:41pm |
re: #194 ggt
Hubby cancelled HBO today. Cable operator told him she did the same thing.
BOYCOTT RULES!
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:11:03pm |
re: #190 JeremyR
Actually, I envy her figure. I wish I was that skinny again. Course, her starving has deprived her brain of precious nutrition at a critical stage in life, it never developed.
Sigh. I was never that skinny, but - thank God - my brain developed quite well. All in all, a pretty darned good deal, I'd say!
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:11:06pm |
re: #186 nyc redneck
thanks for the linky! I forwarded that one.
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Bloodnok Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:11:30pm |
re: #194 ggt
Hubby cancelled HBO today. Cable operator told him she did the same thing.
I'm way behind. What's behind the HBO boycott?
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:12:00pm |
re: #183 Grammy Cracker
The key phrase there was kids *by proxy*! I married four teenagers, so to speak...
Cheaper, I'm sure, then hiring you to baby sit. LOL.
My exwifes grandmother was killed in a car crash when my exMIL was seventeen. Grandpa remarried a gal about the same age as his daughter. I think she is a year older. Long story, but my exMIL was pregnant and ran away from home at the time of her moms death.
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So? Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:12:13pm |
re: #46 Dianna
Waiting for Godot?
No...it's:
Waiting for Bardot.
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formercorpsman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:13:06pm |
re: #180 DesertSage
Sage, read my comments a few posts back up.
I am serious. Are we looking at a fundamental policy change as it relates to the middle east?
I am convinced there are folks smart enough out there who take someone like Gore with a grain of factual salt, but realize in order to have a wedge against being indentured to middle eastern oil politics, see this as a means to manipulate the process?
Although Israel made the desert bloom, I suspect it would be near impossible for this to happen so far inland to generate a similar crop yield comparable to our inland.
We feed the world.
The middle east is making our lives miserable by decreasing output.
Are we making tough for them by decreasing the world food supply via domestic energy policy shifts?
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:13:09pm |
re: #200 Grammy Cracker
Sigh. I was never that skinny, but - thank God - my brain developed quite well. All in all, a pretty darned good deal, I'd say!
When I enlisted, I was 6-3 and 138 lbs. I didn;t pack on the weight until my knees blew out during OCS.
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Crimsonfisted Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:13:12pm |
re: #204 So?
No...it's:
Waiting for Bardot.
Sounds like a movie (or book) I would watch (or read).
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:14:05pm |
re: #205 savage_nation
ok.... I still don't understand but I'll take your word for it.
She raided the retirement center, or her hubby is a cradle robber, pick your poison.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:14:55pm |
re: #194 ggt
Hubby cancelled HBO today. Cable operator told him she did the same thing.
Haven't watched HBO in years, what gives?
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:14:57pm |
re: #195 Bloodnok
Oops, forgot my naughty innuendo tag! I was kidding.
Henry was one of a kind, and had a way with words. The phrase "crumpet-catcher" was in a 1961 R&T article on the E-Type.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:15:46pm |
re: #169 formercorpsman
I don't think we feed the world anymore. IIRC in 2004 (?) we imported more food stuffs than we exported for the first time in history.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:16:17pm |
re: #210 JeremyR
Haven't watched HBO in years, what gives?
Bill Maher's comments about Pope Benedict XVI.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:16:39pm |
re: #202 Bloodnok
Bill Maher calling the Pope a nazi and the head of an organized international pediphilia organization
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Bloodnok Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:16:47pm |
re: #211 Ward Cleaver
Henry was one of a kind, and had a way with words. The phrase "crumpet-catcher" was in a 1961 R&T article on the E-Type.
heh. I was looking more at the "landing his copter in his girlfriend's garden" bit.
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formercorpsman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:16:47pm |
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nyc redneck Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:17:14pm |
re: #163 looking closely
To go where, exactly?
Going to Israel poses another set of "BS" so to speak, and there is no other country that has an open door policy towards Jewish immigration.
israel seems far more desirable than europe. and i have jewish friends whose family immigrated to canada from so. africa. also they could apply to come to the u.s. staying in europe and doing nothing is not a good option.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:18:51pm |
re: #209 JeremyR
She raided the retirement center, or her hubby is a cradle robber, pick your poison.
Is there a pregnant teen in the mix?
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solomonpanting Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:18:53pm |
re: #204 So?
No...it's:
Waiting for Bardot.
Well, my telephone rang it would not stop,
It's President Kennedy callin' me up.
He said, "My friend, Bob, what do we need to make the country grow?"
I said, "My friend, John, Brigitte Bardot,
Anita Ekberg,
Sophia Loren.
Country'll grow"
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formercorpsman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:19:00pm |
re: #213 ggt
I am not being contrary in my response, because it is only something that is clouding my thoughts, but we are starting to have a soft revolt from other nations that coincides with our diverting a portion of the food supply for domestic energy production.
It still must have some impact.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:19:17pm |
re: #214 Ward Cleaver
Bill Maher's comments about Pope Benedict XVI.
Guess I'll have to subscribe so I can cancel in anger, or better yet just say screwem. Cable is a waste of time for me. I mostly avoid the telly.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:19:22pm |
re: #216 Bloodnok
heh. I was looking more at the "landing his copter in his girlfriend's garden" bit.
Yeah, that's pretty clever.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:20:17pm |
re: #219 MandyManners
Is there a pregnant teen in the mix?
No, she just got four teens in the mix. We're discussing Grammy and her earlier comments.
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Thanos Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:20:17pm |
re: #213 ggt
I don't think we feed the world anymore. IIRC in 2004 (?) we imported more food stuffs than we exported for the first time in history.
Because 1/5 of our cropland's now converted to subsidized and mandated biofuel...
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:20:22pm |
re: #203 JeremyR
Cheaper, I'm sure, then hiring you to baby sit. LOL.
My exwifes grandmother was killed in a car crash when my exMIL was seventeen. Grandpa remarried a gal about the same age as his daughter. I think she is a year older. Long story, but my exMIL was pregnant and ran away from home at the time of her moms death.
I'm eight years older than Grandpa Cracker's oldest child. I wouldn't recommend our situation in retrospect, but it has worked out well for us - nearly 23 years and counting, so......
I'm now officially old enough to be the *bio-grammy* of my newest grandkids.
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Bloodnok Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:20:37pm |
re: #215 ggt
Bill Maher calling the Pope a nazi and the head of an organized international pediphilia organization
yikes. Canceling ASAP. Thanks! I fully intend to let them know WHY.
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DesertSage Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:20:48pm |
re: #206 formercorpsman
I'm not following you. What does it have to do with global warming?
I'm not being sarcastic...just want to know where you're coming from.
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formercorpsman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:21:27pm |
re: #227 Thanos
Thanos, do you have opinion on what I have written about?
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:22:17pm |
re: #219 MandyManners
Is there a pregnant teen in the mix?
We have so many pregnant teens now who have no clue who the daddy is that fathers day will be canceled after 2010, or turned into a national day of DNA testing.
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nyc redneck Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:22:33pm |
re: #201 ggt
thanks for the linky! I forwarded that one.
that was reine.de.tout's link and i'm sure she says 'you're welcome."
(btw, looking at how predicatable the behavior was, based on the percentages, is shocking.)
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:22:48pm |
re: #223 JeremyR
Don't have to get HBO...just imagine Bill Maher in his whiny "you know I just got the hell kicked out of me in fourth grade" way saying the same things over and over to an audience that must be paid to laugh at that crap...
either that or they all are posters at Kos.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:22:58pm |
re: #234 JeremyR
We have so many pregnant teens now who have no clue who the daddy is that fathers day will be canceled after 2010, or turned into a national day of DNA testing.
Will there step-fathers claim them as their own?
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:24:04pm |
re: #228 Grammy Cracker
I'm eight years older than Grandpa Cracker's oldest child. I wouldn't recommend our situation in retrospect, but it has worked out well for us - nearly 23 years and counting, so......
I'm now officially old enough to be the *bio-grammy* of my newest grandkids.
My wife is older, but I was a grandparent first. Her oldest is five years older then mine.
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Bloodnok Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:24:42pm |
re: #236 brainwizard73
Don't have to get HBO...just imagine Bill Maher in his whiny "you know I just got the hell kicked out of me in fourth grade" way saying the same things over and over to an audience that must be paid to laugh at that crap...
either that or they all are posters at Kos.
The "if it's funny it must be right" crowd.
Trouble is, it's not funny.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:24:55pm |
Speaking of Grandpa Cracker.... he informs me that it's time for bed and I should turn the @%^*# computer off now.
Good night, Lizards! Be kind to one another....
/'til the morrow....
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formercorpsman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:25:20pm |
re: #230 DesertSage
I know that.
Perhaps this explanation.
I agree with your assessment as it relates to expecting folks on the left side of the isle supporting the "green" thing.
As of late, we are seeing folks from the other side of the isle do the same.
Could my question as to their motivation be based on oil politics, and not genuine belief in the global warming excuse? Do they go along with it, and allow the argument for global warming as a means to an end?
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:25:53pm |
re: #233 MandyManners
Ah.
Sokay. still love you like a sister.
Mine all live far far away.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:27:29pm |
re: #239 Bloodnok
To quote Rober Wuhl in "Good Morning Vietnam": I know funny and he isn't.
Still, what is really interesting is how if you just read the material would won't know if it were Maher, or a slightly less well known and even more apt to get his lunch money taken (even today) lefty by the name of Al "laws only apply to little people" Franken.
What do you know from funny?
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DesertSage Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:27:58pm |
re: #241 formercorpsman
I think the Right is just starting to go along with it because of political expediency. They think it will garner more votes, which is crazy.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:28:05pm |
re: #237 MandyManners
Will there step-fathers claim them as their own?
The standard line among barguys is you pick up gals with kids because they put out. You don't marry gals with kids because they are their kids.
Most second marriages end over problems regarding the kids.
Cindy and I have had three fights in our six years, all were about the kids, and started BY the kids.
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:28:20pm |
re: #240 Grammy Cracker
Goodnight, Grammy!
May you dream of anything but eggs and mushrooms!
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Bloodnok Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:29:27pm |
re: #245 brainwizard73
To quote Rober Wuhl in "Good Morning Vietnam": I know funny and he isn't.
Still, what is really interesting is how if you just read the material would won't know if it were Maher, or a slightly less well known and even more apt to get his lunch money taken (even today) lefty by the name of Al "laws only apply to little people" Franken.
What do you know from funny?
yup. Same schtick. They're interchangeable.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:29:40pm |
re: #243 JeremyR
Sokay. still love you like a sister.
Mine all live far far away.
You have no idea how irritated I get about false claims to parenthood. Discussing the size of a non-related female's pelvis. Making false claims about the ability of an institution to accept a pregnant juvenile.
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HelloDare Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:29:42pm |
A Spinoff link upstairs got 11 Pluses in about a half hour.
Unfortunately, according to SNOPES it never happened.
Couric To Marine Sniper: “What Do You Feel When You Shoot A Terrorist?”
His answer: “A slight recoil.”
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:30:11pm |
re: #206 formercorpsman
This is from an old blog I used to read:
OPEC nations control 80% of the worlds known reserves of oil, and pump about 40% of its current supply. Analysts doubt that these countries have as much oil as they say they do because they dont admit to drawing down the tank, so to speak. Despite continued pumping, and despite having failed to find any significant new oil fields, their stated reserves remain relatively stable. And countries like Saudi Arabia keep investing in oil infrastructure with no obvious increase in production suggesting the Saudis might be working harder and harder to get at dwindling reserves.
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Any OPEC representative moving his lips is lying. It's all political jawboning. The problems with food supplies are complex. They are related to drought, misguided government policies, floods, urbanization of land, mega agribusinesses, lack of potash and other commodities for fertilizer, bad farming practices, etc. etc.
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Thanos Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:31:41pm |
re: #232 formercorpsman
Thanos, do you have opinion on what I have written about?
I've had those thoughts, however too many other factors are playing in to this current crisis for it to have been "calculated secret policy."
I think our part in it is really unintended consequence created by eco-lobbyists and corn lobbys along with the luddite camp. It's really the perfect storm for hunger.
The rest of the world is in it due to Kyoto treaty.
The low dollar and high energy prices of the moment are also key contributors to the problem. It takes a lot of energy to farm in a productive modern way.
Wow... I was linked to some great IAASTD reports on farm productivity with charts that showed how energy intensive farming is, but .... they've pulled like twenty PDF"s off the web. Wonder who's ox was gored by me linking?
Check the reports link here, it's all gone, used to be tons of data here:
[Link: www.agassessment.org...]
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:31:47pm |
re: #249 Bloodnok
Maher's next project is entitled "Fox News: Missunderstood cannibal-Nazis or over compensated methhead kiddie sex fiends."
He will then appologize when he realizes he makes more than anyone at Fox News.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:32:25pm |
re: #251 HelloDare
Seriously, is this a real quote? This is priceless.
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conservgirl Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:32:47pm |
re: #250 MandyManners
Mandy, you seem to be referring to something specific! Am I missing something?
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:33:18pm |
re: #244 ploome hineni
where do you meet these people?
I was in the service for many years. When in hurry up and wait mode (95% of the military time) we had little to do but sit, play cards and tell stories. I can do a very good job of sticking my foot in my mouth, and getting unloaded on. I have a good memory for the stories I get told.
Now days I maintain rental property, and while working arround college kids usually engage them in conversations. I get some really whacky stuff. I have several police detectives on speed dial for a reason.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:34:06pm |
re: #251 HelloDare
I didn't look at the link, sorry...
Sometimes fiction is even stranger (and better) than fact.
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HelloDare Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:35:37pm |
re: #257 brainwizard73
Gah! No. According to Snopes, it is not a real quote. Try the link.
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beachkatie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:36:30pm |
11:30 my curfew on mondays.. Good night Lizzards....! {MAMA WINGER} SWEET DREAMS TO YA!
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HelloDare Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:36:45pm |
re: #261 brainwizard73
Okay, un-gah! I understand. It sure sounds believable.
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Future Blogger Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:38:12pm |
I'm trying to think which side I should be on, the choice being between Brigitte Bardot, speaking the most important truth that can be said in France right now, or being with the dingbat leftist/Muslim alliance because somebody thinks her hubby is too far on the Neo-whatever right. This is a total no-brainer. Brigitte, Baby, I'm with you!
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:38:31pm |
re: #250 MandyManners
You have no idea how irritated I get about false claims to parenthood. Discussing the size of a non-related female's pelvis. Making false claims about the ability of an institution to accept a pregnant juvenile.
Not exactly sure what you were getting at, Savage didn't understand Grammy-crackers comment about going directly to grandparent hood and bypassing parentage. As she noted, she is only eight years older then her oldest step kid.
That is in the same realm as my step grandmother and my moms older sister.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:38:38pm |
After watching Bill Maher patronize and condescend to Hirsi Ali in that video, I have to say I have a newly lower opinion of him.
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beachkatie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:38:48pm |
re: #258 savage_nation
Well, I married my wife cause I loved her. I inherited 3 kids and I'd do it all over again.
{GOODNITE SAVAGE-NATION} SWEETDREAMS TO YA!
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:38:55pm |
re: #264 HelloDare
Any word on whether Katie the elf could get the AQI guys that are featured on the CNN tape shooting our best to talk about "what they feel?"
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formercorpsman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:39:34pm |
re: #246 DesertSage
Fair enough, perhaps I am just up too late, and thinking up willful delusions of grandeur.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:39:45pm |
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beachkatie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:39:57pm |
re: #265 conservgirl
good night.
{SWEET DREAMS TO YA}conservgirl!
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conservgirl Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:40:02pm |
re: #268 JeremyR
I wish she would explain herself too. I am curious what she is talking about.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:41:20pm |
re: #258 savage_nation
Well, I married my wife cause I loved her. I inherited 3 kids and I'd do it all over again.
Same for me. The guys who haunt the bars are not like us. they are looking for lust.
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conservgirl Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:41:40pm |
re: #274 ggt
GGT! Hello my friend! You all better from your illness? I think Real said you had the flu?
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conservgirl Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:42:09pm |
re: #278 JeremyR
Well you both sound like honorable men.
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HelloDare Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:42:36pm |
re: #271 brainwizard73
Too bad Katie didn't do an in-depth interview with Hillary about Tuzla.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:42:41pm |
re: #274 ggt
Good additions. Like the 'starving' Palestinians who blow up their own supplies from Israel, and would rather trash greenhouses left to them in Gaza than use them to grow actual food.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:43:00pm |
re: #268 JeremyR
Not exactly sure what you were getting at, Savage didn't understand Grammy-crackers comment about going directly to grandparent hood and bypassing parentage. As she noted, she is only eight years older then her oldest step kid.
That is in the same realm as my step grandmother and my moms older sister.
It goes way-back.
EOM
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:43:02pm |
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formercorpsman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:43:22pm |
re: #254 Thanos
I genuinely appreciate the response.
At times, when trying to rationalize different aspects of world events, I can get off down a path and develop myopic vision.
Seriously, your words are good stuff.
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conservgirl Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:43:56pm |
re: #285 MandyManners
So what does the pelvis thing mean that you keep on referring too, over and over?
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:44:42pm |
re: #282 HelloDare
Katie "Senator Clintion, when you got off the plane, what did you feel?"
Clinton: "The ground."
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:44:44pm |
re: #284 yenta-fada
Same with medical supplies. Shipments get hijacked and sold on the black market or sit ( the the case of food --rot) on container ships because the right bribes were not paid.
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conservgirl Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:44:49pm |
re: #286 ggt
During well GGT! Your husband is okay too I hope.
How's the weather where you are?
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HelloDare Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:45:52pm |
re: #290 brainwizard73
Katie "Senator Clintion, when you got off the plane, what did you feel?"
Clinton: "The ground."
"Superior."
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:45:59pm |
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profitsbeard Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:46:10pm |
If Brigitte Bardot is trying to save the French's derrieres for arguably petty reasons of her own, they should still thank her for saving their derrieres, and not prosecute her... as the tide of Islam floods into somnambulistic Gaul and promises to render all of their codes and traditions and liberties and meanings moot with intolerant, misogynistic, anti-intelligence, terroristic Sharia Law.
Quibbling over the (possibly) mean-spirit and (perhaps) small-soul of the defender of your life and freedoms seems absurdly irrelevant if they manage to save your civilization with their (flawed character's) still-valiant efforts.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:47:01pm |
re: #292 conservgirl
All is fine! The weather was GLORIOUS. Had to open the windows today to cool off the house. Allergy season, so we have lots of kleenex.
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formercorpsman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:47:02pm |
re: #252 yenta-fada
If that is the case, why did Iran work so hard to develop their own oil bourse?
Again, not contrary retort, just attempting to rationalize things I ponder.
OPEC is lying no doubt.
Did Iran seek to devalue the dollar by taking away it's trading on the oil market for their commodity?
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:49:28pm |
re: #276 conservgirl
Yesterday we butted heads about the FLDS crowd in Texas. I am some what on the side of the FLDS because I believe in freedom of religion. I also have seen how teen age sex can be bad given that so many teens wind up pregnant, or with serious problems.
My step grandmother was sixteen when she married my grandpa. He was thirty five. They were together fifty years. Contrast that to my step daughter who was diagnosed with HPV at twelve, and now has cervical cancer, or a tenant I had last fall who is dead at nineteen from AIDS.
We each have our world view, shaped by what we have encountered. I've seen too much of the bad side of premarital sex. As a father, I'd much rather see my daughters with successful men rather then twenty two year old bums (sorry Savage), even if the man is much older.
I have encountered many May November marriages, and few of them that were unhappy whether it was the man or hte woman who was older. In my case, My wife is a bit older then me.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:50:39pm |
re: #300 wolfie
Yeah, heard "the memo" tonight but it seemed par for the course.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:51:11pm |
re: #280 savage_nation
Lust is good in the proper context though....
Gets too many people into trouble. I've cleaned up a few messes results of lust. Its AOkay to lust for your wife. lusting for the neighbors can get you shot.
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conservgirl Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:53:44pm |
re: #297 ggt So you are afflicted with that up there too?! I was hoping it was a bad side effect of living in the stream of air that we get coming from Texas. My doctor told me the only way to stop having allegeries so badly was to move. But they are everywhere! Glad the weather is glorious and you are all better...
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:54:14pm |
re: #298 formercorpsman
I think you are asking VERY important questions. Oil is an international currency by virtue of its' necessity to everyday life. One of the reasons Iran worked to get an oil bourse is that it would like to see the U.S. dollar lose its status as the world's reserve currency. I recall that at the trial of some terrorist hijacker, he yelled "The dollar is dead" Lots of things all boil down to money; Or various commodities of equal barter capacity. Drugs are also an international currency, but not traded on formal world exchanges as are other commodities.
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newsjunkie_ky Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:54:19pm |
re: #307 savage_nation
I cant see myself with another woman...
Are you now back with the woman you wanted to &%$(#&@^%($ not too long ago?
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:55:34pm |
re: #308 conservgirl
Doesn't matter where I live. I'm allergic to everything. My allergist told me so.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:56:18pm |
re: #307 savage_nation
Did you get a lawyer to talk to yet? Or is it really all too difficult to deal with at the moment?
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:56:25pm |
re: #304 HelloDare
What's Bardot's position on Afghan Hounds?
Same as Persian cats. ;)
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Sharmuta Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:56:31pm |
re: #295 profitsbeard
If Brigitte Bardot is trying to save the French's derrieres for arguably petty reasons of her own, they should still thank her for saving their derrieres, and not prosecute her... as the tide of Islam floods into somnambulistic Gaul and promises to render all of their codes and traditions and liberties and meanings moot with intolerant, misogynistic, anti-intelligence, terroristic Sharia Law.
Quibbling over the (possibly) mean-spirit and (perhaps) small-soul of the defender of your life and freedoms seems absurdly irrelevant if they manage to save your civilization with their (flawed character's) still-valiant efforts.
I don't think that's what Frogman is doing here. Simply because she's right about islam and should not be prosecuted for it does not make her worthy of being held up as a paragon of virtue, since looking more closely at her beliefs clearly shows she is no such thing.
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conservgirl Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:56:58pm |
re: #294 MandyManners
Not sure why you would want to rehash this. This was obiviously a tough day and set of posts. I do not enjoy your veiled remarks about said person. Maybe we can all just move on and focus on something else in a positive manner.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:57:09pm |
The oil/fuel issue has to be the most complex issue I've encountered outside metaphysics.
No way I will ever get my brain around it all.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:57:15pm |
re: #311 savage_nation
Isn't there still another guy in the picture? Did he leave?
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Racer X Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:57:42pm |
re: #311 savage_nation
Wait a minute - you took the wife back? The one with a boyfriend who just gave her a ring?
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:58:02pm |
re: #307 savage_nation
I cant see myself with another woman...
Since my wife fell ill, she has tried to persuade me to find a mistress. So far, nothing, although at times it is tempting. I have never cheated. Maybe I'm a fool, but I figure its safer this way.
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formercorpsman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:58:55pm |
re: #309 yenta-fada
Yeah.
I think if we circle the original intent of 911, modus operandi, it was not a military defeat but a verifiable wound to the economic wheel turning the economy.
It also makes me wonder, if China seeing as it holds so much of our debt, was willing to recently spill some beans on Iran as a result.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:59:40pm |
re: #311 savage_nation
Yep. I forgave her.
Glad to know that. Congratulations, and don't be afraid to get outside help in the form of a good councelor or minister.
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conservgirl Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:00:45pm |
re: #323 JeremyR
I am sorry that she is sick, Jeremy. I will pray for you.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:00:59pm |
re: #326 formercorpsman
Here's where I get my brain meltdowns. If China holds so much of our debt -- and we buy most of their products --now that the dollar is devalued -- Where does that leave China?
If we owe them $100 (on the books) and the value of the dollar is (to make it easier for me) 50/100 -- we still owe them $100 right?
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newsjunkie_ky Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:01:19pm |
re: #311 savage_nation
With all due respect, you're nuts.
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Yankee Division Son Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:01:32pm |
Tooo funny : Jimmy Carter's "Habitat For Hamas"
BWAHaHaHa!
ht: Jawa Report
"Habitat for Hamas will help with Hamas families housing problem, despite the group’s stated commitment to the violent destruction of the state of Israel, because you can’t always get prerequisites adopted by other people before you even grovel and beg."
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:01:51pm |
re: #324 savage_nation
That is a definite improvement if he is really out of the picture. Trust is fragile. Too easy to break since we are all human, hard to repair except gradually.
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NY Nana Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:01:55pm |
re: #250 MandyManners
You have no idea how irritated I get about false claims to parenthood. Discussing the size of a non-related female's pelvis. Making false claims about the ability of an institution to accept a pregnant juvenile.
I agree with you totally. It is at a point where I just scroll.
/A real drama queen and thread destroyer..
And so many different stories. So many.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:02:24pm |
re: #297 ggt
All is fine! The weather was GLORIOUS. Had to open the windows today to cool off the house. Allergy season, so we have lots of kleenex.
I'm back on steroids as of tonight, just took my first dose. All the burning arround here, and got poison ivy in the smoke.
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:02:59pm |
re: #326 formercorpsman
Yeah.
I think if we circle the original intent of 911, modus operandi, it was not a military defeat but a verifiable wound to the economic wheel turning the economy.
It also makes me wonder, if China seeing as it holds so much of our debt, was willing to recently spill some beans on Iran as a result.
Do you mean to protect their investment in dollars, as well as their market here, China might covertly maneuver vs. Iran?
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:03:09pm |
re: #339 JeremyR
How horrible! I hate being on steroids --although I do like the way they open up my sinuses!
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formercorpsman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:03:15pm |
re: #333 ggt
That is my assumption.
I think we made it policy, to tie other countries economically to our ship.
I'm not against it, and on certain levels it makes sense.
You hurt us, and you are only hurting yourself, etc.
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newsjunkie_ky Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:03:16pm |
re: #325 savage_nation
Until the next time one comes along.
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Sharmuta Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:04:37pm |
re: #322 ggt
Yes, let's leave personal issues aside.
Does that mean we're talking on topic? What do you think of DF's post on Bardot?
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conservgirl Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:04:45pm |
re: #341 ggt
really they do that? I have never taken them but I understand they can be hard on the body, if you ever have to take them for one reason or another.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:05:23pm |
re: #342 formercorpsman
That's why the whole Saudi their our friends/not our friends confuses me so much. It's why Osama hates us so much, too, I think.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:06:35pm |
re: #326 formercorpsman
Not counting the crazy fanatics like Ahmedinejad, the Chinese are actually wise enough to know that a stable U.S. currency is vital to the world's financial structure. Russia and China are busy buying up natural resources in other countries.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:07:47pm |
re: #346 conservgirl
Steroids stop all immune reaction (depending on the dosage) so any inflamatory response your body is producing subsides --i.e clogged sinuses. In low doses (like what you get for alleriges or sinus infections) they are relatively safe, with few side effects.
Still, you don't want to use them if you don't have to. They leave you open for other infections. Usually, the ENT or allergist gives them with antibiotics (to me anyway) because I am so prone to sinus infections.
When I am really sick I LOVE THEM. 20 minutes after taking one I am breathing fine.
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newsjunkie_ky Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:07:58pm |
Savage,
Hon, I'll say a prayer for you, but you better keep your eyes wide open. People have a way of following a pattern. I just don't want to see you on here again in a few months like you were when Charles had to put you in time out.
Be careful and get a nanny cam. She may be taking you back because the guy left and she needs you until another comes along.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:09:18pm |
re: #347 ggt
I thought Osama hated us because we were infidels and successful.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:09:19pm |
re: #349 yenta-fada
or outright taking it, like uranium in Tibet.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:10:00pm |
re: #352 yenta-fada
I thought he didn't like that we were "corrupting" Saudi with our money (and our troops.)
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conservgirl Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:10:15pm |
re: #350 ggt
Thankfully I have never had to have them for my sinuses or allergies. I am prone to bouts of MRSA and the last hospital stay about did me in, not sure I could take something that made me prone to infections:(
But they sound like they work wonders for you. Glad for it.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:10:30pm |
re: #331 conservgirl
I am sorry that she is sick, Jeremy. I will pray for you.
Thank you.
My wife has Fibromyalgia coupled with osteoporosis and osteoarthritis. She had the osteoporosis when we got married, the osteoarthritis developed about six months after we were married.
The Fibromyalgia onset in 2004 along with complications from the osteoporosis meds.
She had two strokes twenty months ago. There is more. Most days she barely does any thing. tonight she is resting on the couch which is now normal.
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:10:40pm |
re: #332 savage_nation
Thank you. Everything is slowly getting back to normal.
I went through something like this, though not exactly the same. That's why I say get counseling - both together and separately. It is worth every penny.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:10:43pm |
re: #353 ggt
And, of course, Tibet along with the uranium.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:11:20pm |
Are there any French speakers/readers on the thread?
Reviews at Amazon (France) for Brigitte Bardot's book, Un cri dans le silence are running about even between pros and cons.
[Link: www.amazon.fr...]
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:11:46pm |
re: #355 conservgirl
yeah, probably not a good thing for you!
Unless you get a spinal chord injury or something really dramatic.
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conservgirl Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:12:00pm |
re: #356 JeremyR
Gosh Jeremy, I am so sorry. You sound like such a good husband, I know she appreciates you so very much. I will pray for her and you.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:12:57pm |
re: #341 ggt
How horrible! I hate being on steroids --although I do like the way they open up my sinuses!
Same here. Several years ago the poison ivy got into my sinus and chest cavities. uber bad.
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beachkatie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:13:04pm |
re: #339 JeremyR
I'm back on steroids as of tonight, just took my first dose. All the burning arround here, and got poison ivy in the smoke.
I'm up for just a minute, DO NOT TAKE FLAXSEED WITH CLARINTIN AND ADVAIR> YOU HAVE A REVERSE REACTION> MY EYES WERE WATERING AND NOISE RUNNING WHEN FOR BREAKFAST I PUT FLAXSEED IN MY YOGURT" ALL DAY LONG!
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:13:04pm |
re: #354 ggt
It's the full-blown weird psycho-sexual immaturity, jealous, violent, megalomaniacal, infidelphobic thing. (IMHO)
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:13:13pm |
re: #359 savage_nation
Woot! Good. So glad to hear that you are going to a counselor.
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formercorpsman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:13:38pm |
re: #340 wolfie
I declare right now, I have no knowledge other than my own thoughts that circle the drain otherwise known as the grey matter in my skull.
At times I wonder, with the globalization that has occurred in the aftermath of the first gulf war, are we playing chess on the grand scale?
We anticipate China and Russia trying to put a thumb in our eye, but prefer not to take us out of the picture. I think most countries realize by now, in order to really make waves, decide futures, you need trade, revenue, capital.
We allow China enough rope to hang themselves, when they vote against real sanctions on Iran for violating the terms of the agreement with the IAEA. Sure, they make energy deals between them, sell military hardware, etc.
I try wrapping my brain around the system Russia sold to Syria and Iran right before Israel went in to Syria and took out that sight. Did we know, we could allow them to transact the deal for this hardware, and literally make it a massive investment failure by subsequent action?
Perhaps I am too tired right now.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:14:55pm |
re: #350 ggt
Steroids stop all immune reaction (depending on the dosage) so any inflamatory response your body is producing subsides --i.e clogged sinuses. In low doses (like what you get for alleriges or sinus infections) they are relatively safe, with few side effects.
Still, you don't want to use them if you don't have to. They leave you open for other infections. Usually, the ENT or allergist gives them with antibiotics (to me anyway) because I am so prone to sinus infections.
When I am really sick I LOVE THEM. 20 minutes after taking one I am breathing fine.
My two banes are poison ivy and respiratory infections.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:15:37pm |
One pro review of Bardot's book, passed through a Babelfish:
"Passed the hourvaris of circumstance after the televisual confrontation Fogiel/Bardot, one will be able perhaps peacefully to analyze the contents of this "cry", between revolt and nostalgia. One will not even retain in fact not large thing of this book for him, if it is not that it is a prolongation of this famous "shock of April 21" of which one us rebat ears with constancy. By a simple and direct language, neither particularly vulgar, nor particularly engraved, the BB delivers to us some reflexions struck with the corner of the good direction the aberrations of modernity (puffs out and its wastes, on the industrial treatment of the animal life...) and some remarks more than disrespectful the few citadels of politically correct which are, in bulk, Profs, the homosexual ones, unemployed professionals or the islamist ones."
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:16:51pm |
re: #370 formercorpsman
I think we've been playing the global chess game for A VERY LONG TIME now.
I wouldn't take the POTUS or SOS position for anything. They are playing so many moves ahead, the MSM would freak if they had a clue. Just another reason we don't want Obama or Shrillery in the top spot.
I suck at chess. I only hope the next Administration is better at it than me.
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conservgirl Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:16:57pm |
re: #374 JeremyR
You know Jeremy my mother is like you in that she is highly allergic to Poison Ivy and Oak.
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Timbre Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:17:22pm |
Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) could be replaced by "Mecca Time," if a group of Muslim leaders get their way.
Damn, I was just ready to go to bed, but I guess I'd better get dressed again--it's the middle of the day in the "Holy Hijaz."
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:17:40pm |
re: #364 savage_nation
We've talked about it before. I knew she was ill when we married. God brought me to that place and time for a reason.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:17:59pm |
Another review of Bardot's book, this one negative, via Babelfish:
I read this book by curiosity. I was not disappointed: it is null but I was warned. A judicious alternation of chapters to give a rate/rhythm to the book: a chapter on the animals, a chapter "shock", a chapter on animals etc... The proposed ideas are dangerous and invite to intolerance. Moreover, they are only a priori and preconceived ideas. As for the chapters on the animals... mouais, to read the book of a specialist as much. I strongly disadvise this book to you, which does not bring anything good, one is bored firm by reading it and one comes out from it nauseated per such an amount of lowness and intolerance.
Bored firm.
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formercorpsman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:17:59pm |
I'm out guys, I'm afraid I might be starting to sound like a lunatic.
See everyone tomorrow.
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gman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:18:20pm |
re: #360 jaunte
Are there any French speakers/readers on the thread?
Reviews at Amazon (France) for Brigitte Bardot's book, Un cri dans le silence are running about even between pros and cons.
[Link: www.amazon.fr...]
That must be the book that the Reuters article was referring to:
Bardot has previously said France is being invaded by sheep-slaughtering Muslims and published a book attacking gays, immigrants and the unemployed, in which she also lamented the “Islamisation of France.”
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conservgirl Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:18:34pm |
re: #379 JeremyR
I think you have a very godly outlook on the whole situation. That's wonderful.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:19:05pm |
re: #367 beachkatie
I'm up for just a minute, DO NOT TAKE FLAXSEED WITH CLARINTIN AND ADVAIR> YOU HAVE A REVERSE REACTION> MY EYES WERE WATERING AND NOISE RUNNING WHEN FOR BREAKFAST I PUT FLAXSEED IN MY YOGURT" ALL DAY LONG!
I'm on Prednisone for a while.
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conservgirl Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:20:16pm |
Good night, GGT,Savage, JeremyR (praying for you), beachkatie and all the rest. See you tomorrow.
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:20:44pm |
re: #370 formercorpsman
I don't know. It's hard to put the pieces together and make sense of it all. But that's why I enjoy others' speculations! Food for thought.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:20:48pm |
re: #373 ggt
You will probably think I'm nuts, but when my sinuses bother me, I take a good quality colloidal silver solution into an eye dropper. Then I put my head back and dribble a few drops into each nasal cavity. You have to do it more than once per day and consistently over time to make a real impact. Warning: it stings. In that case, sit up and try it a bit later on. It burns less each time. It is a major virus and bacteria killer and safe enough to swallow. I'm not a medical person. I've got a badly screwed up immune system and have tried lots of remedies.
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:21:10pm |
re: #172 savage_nation
Thirty-year-old grandmother? I'd say thats damn near impossible. At least in my world..
I've actually met a forty something GREAT-grandmother in an emergency room once. The grandmother, mother, and baby were also all present. Grandma was about 30, maybe as old as 32. Ma was probably every bit of 15-16 with child over the age of 1.
Interestingly, Great-great-grandma was around too, but chose to stay home.
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:22:44pm |
Ms. Bardot sounds just a wee tad xenophobic, no? But it shouldn't be against the law, yes?
Allergies: gluten and Pennicillyn. (MY allergies, not BB's).
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:23:35pm |
re: #389 jaunte
I'm not sure what that means...
Old tv?
I was thinking if you get your ears batted a lot, they would be rebatted ears....
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:24:01pm |
re: #384 gman
"sheep slaughtering Muslims" I like it! I must be islamaphobic.
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gman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:24:32pm |
re: #380 jaunte
Hey, Looks like you stumbled onto a new language
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:24:58pm |
re: #392 yenta-fada
Wow, hard elements into the body. I don't know about that one. They aren't water soluable and can build up to toxic levels. I think I'd have a blood/urine test peroidically to check. Hey, if it works.
I've tried all kinds of stuff. Saline is my new best friend. I use the pressurized cans of it like a neti pot.
Quitting dairy helps --but I don't eat meat and it's my main source of those 10 essential amino acids. So, I stopped it.
When pollen counts are really bad or I'm doing yardwork --even when I did a tour of the Bayou --I wear a mask.
Luckily most of the OTC meds work for me --I was on most of them when I was a child and they were prescription. I'd rather suffer than give up my life (dogs, cat, horses, whatever)
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:25:08pm |
re: #387 conservgirl
Good night, GGT,Savage, JeremyR (praying for you), beachkatie and all the rest. See you tomorrow.
Good night CG sweet dreams.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:25:48pm |
re: #396 Catttt
re: #398 gman
Babelfish is good for hours of strange word combinations.
"Do everyone know it more or less then why this book with shocked? Brigitte Bardot wished to write, it wanted expresses her current states of heart, her revolt, and the freedom which it incarnated so well in the Sixties and which it defends with passion. It is an alive legend, fustigates with this frank-parler which characterizes it, our company, its cowardices and its drifts; complicity in front of the injustice, the profiteurs of the system, the levelling down of our traditions and the values of France. This cry, its Cry in Silence, is a formidable call with the good direction, the freedom of expression and a return necessary towards confidence and the hope."
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:26:30pm |
re: #371 savage_nation
I am so happy you and your wife have decided to try to work things out. I'll be praying for you!
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:26:32pm |
I think we are still a long ways away from the Universal Translator.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:27:11pm |
re: #396 Catttt
rebat ear, n a condition of the moonbat ear. Characterized by burn and impact scars caused when the moonbat collides with an unprotected lightbulb it has mistaken for the moon.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:27:26pm |
re: #403 Catttt
I think we are still a long ways away from the Universal Translator.
Basic from Star Warts.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:28:48pm |
re: #406 JeremyR
I liked the Universal Translator but thought the Babel Fish a much more creative Sci-Fi solution.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:29:04pm |
Reviewer dominicarnot doesn't fear the Reaper (for other people)
Happy Marilyn, happy Natalie Wood, happy James Dean, better is worth bruler than to rust, BB was a very beautiful woman, an average actress but good... but to today have as much hatred and contempt for the others that made fear, then to speak about this book surely will make it sell, she will be able to buy croquettes for its dogs, to pay its rates has Saint Tropez but at the end of all that which forfeiture, which shame. It' S better to burn than to rust.
Needs more cowbell, dominic.
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:29:57pm |
re: #401 jaunte
I personally think French is weird.
PLUS it doesn't want to be translated, so it won't cooperate with Babelfish.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:30:29pm |
re: #408 ggt
I liked the Universal Translator but thought the Babel Fish a much more creative Sci-Fi solution.
We will soon have a universal language, and I thinkits gonna ve Spanglish. The libs are determined to kill english as out national language.
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:31:06pm |
re: #406 JeremyR
Basic from Star Warts.
Ahem - Star Trek! (Not that I'm a Trekkie.....)
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:31:07pm |
re: #410 Catttt
I personally think French is weird.
PLUS it doesn't want to be translated, so it won't cooperate with Babelfish.
That's so French.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:32:01pm |
re: #399 ggt
The really good colloidal silver solutions have 50-100 particles per million. I don't know how small the particles are, but you'd have to drink gallons of the stuff to have it show up anywhere IIRC. I have used it for years periodically for infections, and then I stay away from it until I need it. My brother-in-law gets sinus infections too and he's found that it helps. Steroids are a whole lot stronger. The army sent some troops into Iraq with socks that had silver in the fabric. The reason was that they got really bad fungus infections in the desert that would not heal. The silver woven into the socks helped stop them. That's what I've read anyway. I wouldn't swear to it in a court of law.
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solomonpanting Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:32:23pm |
Michael Moore endorses Obama, chides Clinton
Lamenting the lack of a valid primary in his home state of Michigan, Moore writes that Obama's experience and voting record aren't as important as his "basic decency" and ability to inspire.
No experience and the most liberal voting record-not important.
Basic decency is a qualification for President?
Really. Where's the beef?
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:32:35pm |
re: #410 Catttt
I personally think French is weird.
PLUS it doesn't want to be translated, so it won't cooperate with Babelfish.
All languages are weird. French has over fifty words for surrender, and Aussie has about the same number for vomit. Among these are round trip meal ticket, visable speach, technicolor yawn as well as our standard fare.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:32:45pm |
re: #413 jaunte
Wouldn't it be more French to expect us to all learn French and then call us names like "bitter" when we don't learn French?
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:32:45pm |
re: #401 jaunte
Mais oui! :D
Reminds me of the story, supposedly true, of an American diplomat in Moscow in the 1930's. He got a telegram from the US which was translated into Russian and then back into English for him: YOUR SON HAS BEEN HUNG FOR JUVENILE CRIMES. Turns out the original was from a prep school saying "your son has been suspended for minor offenses."
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:33:26pm |
re: #412 Catttt
Ahem - Star Trek! (Not that I'm a Trekkie.....)
When Hand Solo was in the bar, they used basic to talk to all the weird stuff.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:34:41pm |
re: #417 brainwizard73
Learning French is tough when the real speakers think you're doing violence to their language when you attempt it.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:34:47pm |
re: #418 wolfie
Mais oui! :D
Reminds me of the story, supposedly true, of an American diplomat in Moscow in the 1930's. He got a telegram from the US which was translated into Russian and then back into English for him: YOUR SON HAS BEEN HUNG FOR JUVENILE CRIMES. Turns out the original was from a prep school saying "your son has been suspended for minor offenses."
Love it! the ruskies had the right idea though.
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gman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:34:56pm |
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:35:48pm |
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:35:50pm |
re: #418 wolfie
Frightening! I wonder how long he had to wait?
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:35:59pm |
re: #420 jaunte
Learning French is tough when the real speakers think you're doing violence to their language when you attempt it.
Been to gay pari? They turn up their noses at our attempt to communicate no matter what the language. Luckily they all understand the Bird.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:36:46pm |
re: #420 jaunte
However, since effort is everything and what one means is so much more important than what one actually does, wouldn't the French give a dumb hick from flyover country a pass?
Chevy Chase in National Lampoons' notwithstanding?
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:36:46pm |
re: #422 gman
better is worth bruler than to rust
Sounds important, whatever it means
I think he's channeling James Dean or Neil Young
"It's better to burn out, than fade away ( or rust).
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:37:13pm |
re: #414 yenta-fada
Now I am wondering what the carrier is?
In other words, what else are you snuffing?
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:37:24pm |
re: #394 savage_nation
Oh, I cant wrap my brain around that.... eek
It was a little bizarre, I have to admit. I had never seen anything quite like it before or since. (Though recently I met a 16 year old who just delivered her second child).
None of them were what you might call "bright", though Great-grandma was clearly the "responsible" one, had a bit of life experience, and was taking care of the others. Appearance-wise, Great-grandma could have been a youngish grandma. Grandma was basically along for the ride in what seemed like a family event. Ma was a just a clueless little girl who probably should have been playing with Barbies (as you can imagine).
The baby was in the ER because she had swallowed an NSAID pill that one of the others had carelessly dropped/left on the floor, though the kid was 100% fine and happy.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:37:34pm |
re: #425 JeremyR
Been to gay pari? They turn up their noses at our attempt to communicate no matter what the language. Luckily they all understand the Bird.
Only to Belgium, but it was close enough for me.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:38:13pm |
re: #426 brainwizard73
However, since effort is everything and what one means is so much more important than what one actually does, wouldn't the French give a dumb hick from flyover country a pass?
Chevy Chase in National Lampoons' notwithstanding?
I think you're thinking American!
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:38:42pm |
re: #430 jaunte
Only to Belgium, but it was close enough for me.
I can understand that.
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:39:08pm |
re: #407 savage_nation
Appreciated. I've had a pretty rough year with Dad dying last month so this is gonna be good.
You bet.
I remember when my dad died.......and a couple of months later my sister, who had been desperately trying for years and years, got pregnant. Nice news, anyway. But after a death in the family, something like that can be a ray of great hope.
So, rejoice....and give it all you've got!
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:39:08pm |
re: #431 savage_nation
non-steroidal anti-inflammatory...
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gman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:39:18pm |
re: #415 solomonpanting
Michael Moore endorses Obama, chides Clinton
No experience and the most liberal voting record-not important.
Basic decency is a qualification for President?
Really. Where's the beef?
Is it just me or does anyone else think that the name of Michael Moore's last film "Sicko" is the perfect moniker for him. He actually came up with his own best nickname.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:39:25pm |
re: #414 yenta-fada
Quackwatch has some things to say about it.
BTW, I didn't go to this site first, it came up in the Google Search.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:39:35pm |
re: #423 ggt
I hope it helps. I really like the least invasive methods to help myself with health issues. I don't suppose you've heard of the Quantum Xeroid Consciousness Interface program? It's out where the buses don't run, but it helps me. Of course you haven't heard about it. Nobody I know (except the people who use it) has heard of it.
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:39:36pm |
re: #414 yenta-fada
I don't want to scare you, but you have to be a bit careful about chronic use of colloidal silver solutions.
[Link: www.quackwatch.com...]
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:39:56pm |
re: #419 JeremyR
When Hand Solo was in the bar, they used basic to talk to all the weird stuff.
You have a better memory than I. I saw it in the 70s - once. I do remember the catchy tune the band was playing, though. :)
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:40:06pm |
re: #431 savage_nation
What is an NSAID pill?
Non steroidal anti inflamatory drug. Aspirin, tylenol Motrin etc.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:40:07pm |
re: #432 jaunte
When I can't buy American, I still think American.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:40:58pm |
re: #436 gman
Moore desperately needs exercise. He's getting way too big.
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:40:59pm |
re: #431 savage_nation
Sorry,
Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID).
In this case, IIRC, it was a "Naprosyn", but the category includes aspirin, Tylenol, Motrin, and most of the over-the counter pain killers that people gobble by the handful.
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:41:50pm |
re: #441 JeremyR
Non steroidal anti inflamatory drug. Aspirin, tylenol Motrin etc.
Wow, I recapitulated your answer word for word (only with added snark!).
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gman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:42:05pm |
re: #427 jaunte
I think he's channeling James Dean or Neil Young
"It's better to burn out, than fade away ( or rust).
Speechless and in awe. You are IT
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:42:23pm |
re: #411 JeremyR
We will soon have a universal language, and I thinkits gonna ve Spanglish. The libs are determined to kill english as out national language.
Dumb. They decide to turn on English just as it's fast becoming the international language.
As far as I'm concerned, if we can't even agree that English is our national language, we can't agree on anything. Might as well call it a game, in terms of being a nation.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:42:38pm |
re: #440 Catttt
Thanks. First saw star wars in Germany. It was in German with English subtitles. A total hoot.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:43:41pm |
re: #442 brainwizard73
When I can't buy American, I still think American.
I think one of the key differences in American thinking vs. European thinking is that we tend to give people credit for trying, even if their efforts are not professionally polished. It makes a difference in how much 'entrepreneurial' effort is rewarded early.
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Mich-again Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:44:14pm |
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:45:05pm |
re: #439 looking closely
Thank you for your concern and information. I know about quackwatch. My friends who are health practitioners have been using the stuff for years. Nobody has turned blue. They also us colloidal silver to disinfect their offices after each patient and any equipment that people touch. They are more careful about cleanliness than most places. Certainly my doctor's office is way scarier for catching things.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:45:58pm |
re: #439 looking closely
I don't want to scare you, but you have to be a bit careful about chronic use of colloidal silver solutions.
[Link: www.quackwatch.com...]
Silver works for fighting some problems except that it is too heavy I therefore use plastic substitutes.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:46:36pm |
re: #450 gman
Speechless and in awe. You are IT
He was basically telling Bardot she should have died young and left a pretty corpse ( a la James Dean, and others). Not a pleasant guy.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:47:04pm |
re: #445 yenta-fada
Still reading about colloidal silver. After reading this, I think I'd get to your doctor for that bloodwork --and tell him about the silver.
Ok, tell me about that Quantum thingy. Sorry, I don't want scroll back up for the whole name.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:47:17pm |
re: #449 looking closely
Wow, I recapitulated your answer word for word (only with added snark!).
If great minds think alike, whats our excuse? LOL ;-)
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x-ray Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:47:20pm |
re: #447 looking closely
Sorry,
Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID).
In this case, IIRC, it was a "Naprosyn", but the category includes aspirin, Tylenol, Motrin, and most of the over-the counter pain killers that people gobble by the handful.
I don't believe Tylenol is an anti inflammatory but it does have other advantages like less hard on the stomach for straight pain relief. Link
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:47:45pm |
re: #453 jaunte
Probably depends on the circumstances. Younger people and those just into a particular scene (like me, a new hatchling) get some credit for effort. That is precisely because putting forth that effort is an admirable quality, an end in itself.
Still no matter what, the private sector expects results, at least at some point.
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UncleSam Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:47:52pm |
The reason we're paying so much for gas is that the Dhimmicrats sold out long ago to the hate-America greens and have blocked all access to oil in ANWAR and off our coasts.
Pelosi was bragging a couple of weeks ago about the House passing a bill to block access to oil off the California coast.
As far as I'm concerned, she's a traitor and an idiot.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:47:59pm |
re: #455 yenta-fada
It's clearned by the FDA for cleaning purposes.
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gman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:48:09pm |
re: #453 jaunte
I think one of the key differences in American thinking vs. European thinking is that we tend to give people credit for trying, even if their efforts are not professionally polished. It makes a difference in how much 'entrepreneurial' effort is rewarded early.
In Europe, if you are going to do something well, you better not look like you're trying.
The zero sum game is in effect. If you look like you're doing well, it probably came at the expense of someone else.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:48:59pm |
re: #451 wolfie
Dumb. They decide to turn on English just as it's fast becoming the international language.
As far as I'm concerned, if we can't even agree that English is our national language, we can't agree on anything. Might as well call it a game, in terms of being a nation.
Wizz on the fire, shoot the dog and put the table cloth on the flag pole if the liberals gettheir way.
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:49:31pm |
re: #454 Mich-again
Not just yet OK?
OK......gulp.......
.......just as little, teeny, bitty bit cranky about this English thing!
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:49:43pm |
re: #462 UncleSam
But she looks so HOT in those headscarfs when visiting Assad!
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BlueCanuck Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:50:07pm |
re: #427 jaunte
I think he's channeling James Dean or Neil Young
"It's better to burn out, than fade away ( or rust).
I think James Dean might have said "It's better to burn out than fade away." Neil Young's line was "It's better to burn out than it is to rust" from Rust Never Sleeps album with Crazy Horse.
/oh Good Morning, night shift checking in.
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williwonka Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:50:15pm |
re: #28 LoFlyer
Bridgette Bardot was one of the sex symbols before I reached puberty, and I appreciated her looks, like Jane Fonda she had more curves than brains.
Well that is true for me also, except now I am older than her?
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:50:34pm |
re: #461 brainwizard73
re: #464 gman
In Europe, if you are going to do something well, you better not look like you're trying.
It may be a hangover of the class system; the nobility had plenty of time to train for everything, and appear effortlessly superior in public. Stumbling around as a beginner is plebeian.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:51:39pm |
re: #472 jaunte
Probably goes back to the European notion of a public self and a private self. Public self better not look, well, you nailed it, like a prole.
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:51:56pm |
re: #462 UncleSam
The reason we're paying so much for gas is that the Dhimmicrats sold out long ago to the hate-America greens and have blocked all access to oil in ANWAR and off our coasts.
PelosiNancy P Lousy was bragging a couple of weeks ago about the House passing a bill to block access to oil off the California coast.
As far as I'm concerned, she's a traitor and an idiot.
Fixed it for ya.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:52:54pm |
re: #473 brainwizard73
Here we've flipped it around and the potential leader has to pretend to go bowling or do shots with the locals.
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:54:20pm |
re: #452 JeremyR
Thanks. First saw star wars in Germany. It was in German with English subtitles. A total hoot.
I remember seeing Woman in the Dunes (strange Japanese flick) when I was in junior high when I went with my folks to the Aspen Institute for a week, with a group of high school students that got to sit in on the discussions. They had a series of foreign films (I also got to hear some interesting speakers). It's a strange movie, about a man who is trapped in a hole in the desert with a woman (hence, woman in the dunes, natch) and forced to dig sand for illegal use in housing projects - I think.
At one point the guy gets really angry at the woman and yells a whole string of Japanese at the woman. The subtitle - No. Or maybe it was yes. That got a laugh. Actually, a lot of the movie got snickers and rolled eyes.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:54:45pm |
Has everyone seen Mark Steyn's Obama line today?
Mrs Clinton's advanced from hurling china to obliterating Iran:
“I want the Iranians to know that if I’m the president we will attack Iran,” Clinton said. “In the next ten years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them.”
The point presumably is not that anyone in the Democratic base wants to totally obliterate Iran (whose leadership has, after all, endorsed Obama) but that your willingness to pretend you want to reassures the base that, come the general, you're not going to be this season's neo-McGovernik fall-guy getting Swiftboated as an arugulan wimp. The Dem contest is a triumph of post-modern politics.
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:55:07pm |
re: #455 yenta-fada
Thank you for your concern and information. I know about quackwatch. My friends who are health practitioners have been using the stuff for years. Nobody has turned blue. They also us colloidal silver to disinfect their offices after each patient and any equipment that people touch. They are more careful about cleanliness than most places. Certainly my doctor's office is way scarier for catching things.
This isn't about cleanliness. Using something as a disinfectant isn't the same as ingesting it. You wouldn't drink Lysol or Chlorox bleach, would you?
Usually you don't turn "blue" like the dramatic image I posted, but rather a shade of gray,.
I actually have seen someone that this has happened to. I don't remember the details, but they were using one of these colloidal silver products for many years and their skin was a sort of an ashen grey.
The silver actually binds to the collagen fibers of the skin, like a silver stain. I don't think there is any way to get it out again once that happens.
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x-ray Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:55:36pm |
re: #471 JeremyR
OK, I stand corrected as well.
I wasn't trying to be picayune just trying to add info.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:55:55pm |
re: #463 ggt
Here is some basic info (through google) on the QXCI. I warned you it was completely off the map. My friends own one and use it for their patients. It takes a long time to learn how to use it. I'm not really recommending it because everyone will say I'm totally insane and gullible. Be that as it may, it helps me. It's a short term aid for a variety of medical conditions. It IS NOT A CURE for anything and makes no claim to be. It is completely non-invasive with no side effects. I understand anybody's reluctance to actually use colloidal silver, which is why I issue the caveat.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:56:06pm |
re: #475 jaunte
I don't know.
A potential leader can still toss back SoCo and convert a 7-10 split with some measure of competance. I bet Sarkozy and Merkel did some stuff we would consider a bit common when they were running.
Key is, if you are going to bowl, do better than a 7 year old, and if you are going to pound shots, get a real American whiskey, or Irish whiskey.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:56:13pm |
re: #478 savage_nation
That's beautiful. Marie is my wife's middle name.
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:57:14pm |
I think Nancy Pelosi dresses well. (Heh. That was a really nice scarf she used as a hijab, BTW) But would someone tell her to cut the plastic surgery.....or get another surgeon? She can barely move her face.
Okay. That was catty.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:57:46pm |
re: #478 savage_nation
As someone that is still fighting with spouse four years later on my kids' names...
It is beautiful and she will fit her name perfectly.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:58:09pm |
re: #482 brainwizard73
True, broad brush. I think the bowling test was a dismal flop. Hilary's drinking photo-op was more along the Dukakis 'whats-wrong-with-this-picture' line.
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:58:11pm |
re: #460 x-ray
I don't believe Tylenol is an anti inflammatory but it does have other advantages like less hard on the stomach for straight pain relief.
You're right, that Tyenol isn't really the same as ibuprofen and the others, though often it is lumped into that category (mistakenly, I suppose, as by the likes of me).
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:58:53pm |
re: #484 wolfie
No, here is catty:
Nancy is a winter, what is she doing wearing that terra-cotta hajib?
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:59:07pm |
Time for bed. Good night all. Hopefully tonight I can SLEEP.
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:59:18pm |
re: #478 savage_nation
How does Faith Marie sound as a name?
Just tossing it out there to see what everyone thinks....
I can't believe you said that.
The baby my sister had after my dad died.....Mary Faith!
NOT kidding! (Twilight Zone music, please!)
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:59:59pm |
re: #487 jaunte
I was told that HRC did Crown Royal...if so, where is the union, white, middle class working crowd's outrage?
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:00:02pm |
Rep. Pelosi would probably not like my living room. I have a large print of George Grall's photograph of a chemical plant at night over my sofa. He mostly does critters, but I really like the chemical plant pic a lot.
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:00:38pm |
Way off topic, but has anyone here fired one of these Beretta CX4 carbines?
[Link: www.cx4storm.com...]
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JeremyR Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:00:46pm |
re: #484 wolfie
I think Nancy P
elosiLousy dresses well. (Heh. That was a really nice scarf she used as a hijab, BTW) But would someone tell her to cut the plastic surgery.....or get another surgeon? She can barely move her face.
Okay. That was catty.
We are talking about the screecher of the house aren't we?
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:01:18pm |
re: #490 brainwizard73
No, here is catty:
Nancy is a winter, what is she doing wearing that terra-cotta hajib?
LOL !
Goodnight, Jeremy! Sleep tight!
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gman Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:01:26pm |
re: #472 jaunte
re: #464 gman
It may be a hangover of the class system; the nobility had plenty of time to train for everything, and appear effortlessly superior in public. Stumbling around as a beginner is plebeian.
That probably goes a long way in explaining why they let us get our hands dirty trying to solve the world's problems while they observe from a distance and whine about the primitive and barbaric methods that we deal with said problems.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:01:38pm |
re: #481 yenta-fada
Hey, if traditional medicine hasn't worked for you --try anything.
I often wonder if the effectiveness of the "way out" alternative stuff
is placebo effect or self-fufilling prophecy.
I do know that some conditions are not adequately treatable by conventional medicine. Luckily, many of the "alternative" therapies are now becoming accepted.
I think I'll leave that little machine alone, tho.
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:02:15pm |
re: #478 savage_nation
How does Faith Marie sound as a name?
Just tossing it out there to see what everyone thinks....
It's pretty.
In my family, everyone gets named after deceased relatives and saints.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:02:26pm |
re: #493 savage_nation
Any would be great. She will grow into it.
As parent of 3 under 4 y.o. (no twins) just don't go with anything trendy...and none of those are. All classics in one way or another.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:03:13pm |
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:03:33pm |
re: #495 brainwizard73
Crown Royal is distilled in Gimli, Manitoba, so maybe she's trying for a little bit of Lord of the Rings voters.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:03:33pm |
re: #479 looking closely
I know you can't drink bleach. Geez. In my case they wanted to give me interferon. I'm much too ill for anything that strong. Again, I appreciate your caution and urge it on others. Also, I was discussing the use of a few drops in the nose to help clear sinus infections. No, I wouldn't recommend using bleach that way either. Lizards are smart enough to fact check anything they read online. I was relating my own experience. I'm my own lab rat. So far it is helping. (five years)
I really do appreciate what you are saying though.
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x-ray Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:04:02pm |
When picking names for my children I mostly just argued against ones I thought might traumatize them. Trying to remember how what are actually pretty names (2 girls) were twisted by their future peers (rhyming etc.)
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:04:24pm |
re: #490 brainwizard73
No, here is catty:
Nancy is a winter, what is she doing wearing that terra-cotta hajib?
I swear that is exactly what I thought when I saw the scarf she chose. Someone must have sprung it on her, though - she is usually very careful with her colors (and the pattern was awful too). Meow.
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:05:28pm |
re: #504 ggt
My hubby and his friends always wonder if her boobs are real.
:O
Nancy Pelosi's boobs?
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:05:45pm |
re: #506 yenta-fada
I did get on some message boards and the consensus seems to be that occasional use is OK (of colloidal silver). It's just daily, long-term use that is the problem.
Of course, one always has to watch the liver. A heavy drinker might not want to add silver to his daily diet.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:06:18pm |
re: #505 jaunte
Now it all makes sense...John Murtha does look like an Orc Captian when angry.
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:06:20pm |
re: #511 savage_nation
If she has a boy, she wants to name him Holden. I'm not so sure about that one, to be honest.
Did she read Catcher in the Rye?
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jaunte Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:06:28pm |
re: #511 savage_nation
That one might lead to some wordplay.
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:06:47pm |
re: #514 ggt
yeah.
Nancy Pelosi has boobs? How can you tell?
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:07:02pm |
re: #501 ggt
Hey, if traditional medicine hasn't worked for you --try anything.
There I disagree.
You can try *some* things, but not "anything".
Some things might help, might not, but probably aren't going to hurt.
But other things that might help and might not, *could* have a reasonable likelihood of hurting.
Laetrile, for example. . .maybe not so good.
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:07:04pm |
re: #504 ggt
My hubby and his friends always wonder if her boobs are real.
:O
Well, she is a boob. Isn't that enough?!
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neocon hippie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:07:06pm |
re: #108 DistantThunder
Anyone see the New, hot off the presses Anti-Obama Ad?
I call it Obama the Wimp ad
Site is loading a little slow - must be getting lots of traffic.
The written wording on the ad says that Obama is opposed to something called the "Dealth Penalty"
Whoops...
Might have a little problem with credibility there.
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UncleSam Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:07:40pm |
re: #478 savage_nation
How does Faith Marie sound as a name?
Just tossing it out there to see what everyone thinks....
As a name for what?
A child?
I would suggest Squibbleydoo Humbucket, but, of course, that's just my personal preference.
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x-ray Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:07:58pm |
re: #504 ggt
My hubby and his friends always wonder if her boobs are real.
:O
Look at her face there is no way there real.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:09:18pm |
re: #505 jaunte
Oooh, Gimli. Every time I hear that name I remember the "Gimli Glider".
/a case of narrowly disaster avoided.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:09:18pm |
re: #501 ggt
Darned little machine costs about as much as a car. I don't have one.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:09:22pm |
re: #510 Catttt
She could have changed the coloring on her face to tone it down...but oh no...
And if someone sprung it on her we now have empirical proof that the Democrats are unable to deal with the 3 a.m. phone call:
Voice over: It is 3 a.m. A phone is ringing in the White House. A crisis has erupted somewhere in the world. Who will be there to answer for America?
Picture of Pelosi answering Phone wearing perfectly color cordinated hajib: I am ready for anything...
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:09:26pm |
One thing I really hate - people assuming boobs are fake just because they happen to be large. Some people actually have big real boobs.
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:09:31pm |
re: #524 jaunte
G'nite, jaunte! Pleasant dreams......................hopefully not of Pelosi's boobs.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:11:41pm |
re: #509 ggt
Auto-immune liver disease. Medically called "cryptogenic cirrhosis of the liver.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:11:41pm |
re: #518 Catttt
Potentially scarring image deleted from memory.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:12:57pm |
re: #530 Catttt
Sure, as long as the woman in question (still women only...sorry Oprah) isn't 79 pounds and look like she is wearing a personal floatation device.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:13:19pm |
re: #528 yenta-fada
I can understand not wanting to go on interferon. It's some scarry $hit. If you do decide to in the future --consider starting an anti-depressant with it. It can do wierd things to the mind.
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:13:41pm |
re: #533 savage_nation
Maybe she could use Holden as a middle name....and he could use it when he's grown up, if he wanted to. Then pick a simpler first name.....one kids can't ruin. (Is there such a name?)
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rawmuse Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:13:47pm |
re: #530 Catttt
One thing I really hate - people assuming boobs are fake just because they happen to be large. Some people actually have big real boobs.
Do you have a license for those boobs?
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:13:47pm |
re: #525 savage_nation
I'm not sure. I asked her why she wants to name her baby after a car.
The Mad Max Interceptor and Pursuit vehicles were Holden Fords.
Lol. I'll bet she gave you a blank look on that one. :)
I automatically thought of Holden Caulfield.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:14:58pm |
re: #537 yenta-fada
oooooh, auto-immune runs rampant in my hubby's family --MS, Lupus etc. Is some "nasty, nasty $hit". Been on some steroids in your life?
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x-ray Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:16:35pm |
re: #543 Catttt
Lol. I'll bet she gave you a blank look on that one. :)
I automatically thought of Holden Caulfield.
I thought of William Holden
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:18:07pm |
I like simple names like JOE and BRUCE and JACK.
Maybe I've owned too many dogs.
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brainwizard73 Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:18:17pm |
Off to dream of William Holden in Stalag 17 catching Nancy Pelosi topless and saying
"Ach so!"
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:18:46pm |
re: #540 ggt
Thanks for your tip! No way I'm going to be the victim of a "cure" though. I don't even take vitamins anymore. Too many unknowns as far as interactions. First, do no harm.
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UncleSam Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:19:00pm |
re: #526 savage_nation
A kid, indeed.
Faith Marie makes me think of Marianne Faithful, who had some really good songs.
On the other hand, she was a heroin addict for quite a while, if I recall correctly.
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:19:56pm |
re: #547 savage_nation
He was a bull frog.
But then again, he was a good friend of mine.
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NY Nana Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:20:24pm |
re: #488 looking closely
Watch it with Tylenol/acetaminophen, Paracetamol, etc. They are toxic to the kidneys, among other things. Try to limit intake. Paracetamol is sold in the UK, and to get a bottle of 100, you must ask the trained pharmacy assistant behind the counter. Otherwise, there are packets of 16 to buy. It has been used to commit suicide, as the antidote often is not given in time.
It can also impact on the liver.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:20:27pm |
re: #544 ggt
No steroids ever. Allergies since infancy though. As I said, I can relate.
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:21:06pm |
re: #549 brainwizard73
Yeooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
G'nite! Sweet interesting dreams!
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x-ray Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:21:40pm |
re: #548 ggt
I like simple names like JOE and BRUCE and JACK.
Maybe I've owned too many dogs.
My family was all Jim, Bob, Bill, Tom, John Had a brother in-law tell me we all had gas station names (the ones that fit on the name tags on gas station shirt)
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:22:14pm |
I thought of William Holden too, but I seriously doubt the mother-to-be did.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:22:43pm |
re: #554 wolfie
He was a bull frog.
But then again, he was a good friend of mine.
If you're going to quote it, link it. :)
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UncleSam Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:23:03pm |
re: #553 savage_nation
Marianne Faithful is my wifes all time favorite singer.
"Broken English" is one of my Top 10 favorite songs.
Totally rocks...
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:23:13pm |
My family all have names that you can instantly tell we're Catholic.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:23:47pm |
re: #550 yenta-fada
I know a couple of MS patients who have taken Beta-Interferon for years with no real side-effects. They only prescribe that now for the worst patients.
Like I said, if traditional medicine doesn't work, try anything (within reason).
Have you done any of the hydrogen-peroxide treatments? I've used some of them with great results. I don't know about many of them tho.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:25:39pm |
re: #562 Catttt
Peter, Paul, Mary and Marie?
Catherine, Anne, Margaret, Elizabeth, Mark, Luke and John?
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:26:14pm |
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:27:18pm |
Donna, MaDonna, Alice, Andrew and Matthew?
Just naming my family. . . .
Forgot, Robert.
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ggt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:28:17pm |
re: #566 yenta-fada
I can tell you it has done wonders for my dogs' breath. 5 drops per gallon for many, many weeks. Still have to have dental treatments but, very little tartar and NO DOGGY BREATH.
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Bobibutu Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:29:33pm |
re: #530 Catttt
One thing I really hate - people assuming boobs are fake just because they happen to be large. Some people actually have big real boobs.
My last GF had 34 DDs with an inverted nipple on the left. Wanted to get a reduction. I talked her out of it. Lordy how I loved to get the left to stand to attention.
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:29:36pm |
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:30:00pm |
re: #568 savage_nation
She's 17 and she never heard of Bill Holden. I doubt she ever read Catcher in the Rye either.
It's just as well. :) My mom had it in the high school library. Parents would complain, and she'd take it off the shelf, satisfy them, then put it back on a week later. She was clever.
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:32:18pm |
re: #570 Bobibutu
My last GF had 34 DDs with an inverted nipple on the left. Wanted to get a reduction. I talked her out of it. Lordy how I loved to get the left to stand to attention.
"It's better to be looked over than overlooked." ~Mae West (My father quoted that to me a lot when I was a teen.)
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:32:36pm |
re: #506 yenta-fada
I know you can't drink bleach. Geez.
And I know you know that.
You said the stuff was being used to disinfect the counters and such. . .I'm just saying that isn't any kind of reason to think its safe.
No, a little bit of silver nosedrops once in a while probably won't hurt you. Remember I said be careful about chronic use.
Auto-immune liver disease. Medically called "cryptogenic cirrhosis of the liver.
Not to split hairs, but by definition auto-immune cirrhosis isn't "cryptogenic". Cryptogenic means the cause is unknown. While cryptogenic liver disease is often auto-immune in etiology, if the disease is known to be auto-immune, its not "cryptogenic".
In any case, I'm sorry to hear that you have this. I know what that disease entails.
Since you mentioned it, that would make me more leery about using silver compounds. If your liver isn't working well, silver and other metal compounds might be more toxic and/or difficult to excrete.
re: #536 ggt
Obviously, do your own research.
If you mean checking out "alternative" therapies on the internet before trying them, I suppose that's a good idea.
If by "research" you mean trying to determine whether or not these things may be beneficial by testing them on human (or literal) guinea pigs, I'd say most people aren't qualified or able to do that, and that you probably shouldn't use yourself as such a guinea pig.
.
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DownRightMeanAmerican Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:32:37pm |
When I just hit the main page the browser says :
Militarized theocratic sheep.
Man that is funny!
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:33:53pm |
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:35:18pm |
re: #581 DownRightMeanAmerican
I was actually here when a rather nice young troll said "You people just halve no clue." The only revolving title I actually witnessed.
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:35:19pm |
re: #583 ggt
Night night!
(Please don't dream about William Holden and Nancy Pelosi!)
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Bobibutu Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:36:17pm |
re: #579 Catttt
"It's better to be looked over than overlooked." ~Mae West (My father quoted that to me a lot when I was a teen.)
A wise father. Personally I think a lady would be well served by pride in what she has been endowed with. Choices from that point on are hers.
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:36:18pm |
re: #588 wolfie
Night night!
(Please don't dream about William Holden and Nancy Pelosi!)
William Holden, yes. Rep. Pelosi - uh - no, please.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:36:47pm |
re: #587 Catttt
I was actually here when a rather nice young troll said "You people just halve no clue." The only revolving title I actually witnessed.
I actually caught IrishRose with the "we're overloading Ajax" comment that's now a revolving title.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:38:50pm |
re: #580 looking closely
Three doctors and two labels. Only one called it auto-immune. I just call it severe chronic fatigue. You are correct about the silver, of course. It's a quality of life thingie, and I make my choices according to how I function with different remedies. I appreciate your comments.
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Bobibutu Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:39:04pm |
re: #575 ggt
TMI!
Sorry - I thot this had regressed into another boob thread and couldn't resist.
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Catttt Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:39:10pm |
My cats are giving me the evil eye, which means they want me to go to bed.
The Siamese, in particular, has "dirty look" down to a science.
Goodnight, all.
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yenta-fada Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:39:54pm |
re: #583 ggt
Night! btw, the classic comic of Silas Marner was outstanding.
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wolfie Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:40:39pm |
re: #595 Catttt
My cats are giving me the evil eye, which means they want me to go to bed.
The Siamese, in particular, has "dirty look" down to a science.
Goodnight, all.
LOL...That's cats for ya! Goodnight !
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:42:14pm |
re: #555 NY Nana
Watch it with Tylenol/acetaminophen, Paracetamol, etc. They are toxic to the kidneys, among other things. Try to limit intake. Paracetamol is sold in the UK, and to get a bottle of 100, you must ask the trained pharmacy assistant behind the counter. Otherwise, there are packets of 16 to buy. It has been used to commit suicide, as the antidote often is not given in time.
It can also impact on the liver.
Unfortunately, I know a lot about this particular problem.
The reason paracetamol/Tylenol is limited in volume sold in England and elsewhere (but not the USA) is because its easily overdosed for suicide purposes. (A small amount of alcohol with it greatly increases the toxicity).
The death is particularly horrible too, from massive hepatic necrosis, and its usually young women who do it.
The "antidote" N-acetyl cysteine ("mucomyst") works great. . .in medical textbooks. In the real world, its effectively useless.
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Bobibutu Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:42:34pm |
re: #595 Catttt
My cats are giving me the evil eye, which means they want me to go to bed.
The Siamese, in particular, has "dirty look" down to a science.
Goodnight, all.
Cats rule - that's why I leave that spectrum to my sister - I do dogs.
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DownRightMeanAmerican Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:43:20pm |
re: #587 Catttt
I was actually here when a rather nice young troll said "You people just halve no clue." The only revolving title I actually witnessed.
It that what they mean when they say rotating title?
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BlueCanuck Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:45:07pm |
re: #601 savage_nation
Ouch, I heard the area east of the Rockies was getting hammered. I know Calgary and those parts had a lot of snow. Meanwhile here in T.O. we are getting warmer than normal temperatures.
/we were due for some good weather.
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Bobibutu Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:49:02pm |
BB hit the screens about the time just after I hit puberty. Uh - I still feel tingly when she is mentioned.
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:50:44pm |
re: #593 yenta-fada
Three doctors and two labels. Only one called it auto-immune. I just call it severe chronic fatigue. You are correct about the silver, of course. It's a quality of life thingie, and I make my choices according to how I function with different remedies. I appreciate your comments.
I see.
The dx of autoimmune hepatitis requires a good hepatologist, as well as a competent liver pathologist, and to get them together you'd likely have to be seen at the appropriate tertiary care center (with glass slides in hand).
Beth Israel Deaconess medical center in Boston has one of the best (if not the best) liver centers on the East Coast, if that's any help. If I had a liver problem, I'd go there.
Then again, there is only so much that can be done for this. . .as you know.
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looking closely Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:51:14pm |
And on that somber note, I'm outta here.
GN all.
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x-ray Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:56:17pm |
Nite all
The cats are probably giving me the evil eye, but since I don't let them in the house (cause I kinda like them) I don't really know.
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bosforus Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:15:36pm |
So the other day some guy pulled over in his car to talk to me and asked me what I was studying (college town, and I just graduated). I told him Civil Engineering and he proceed to offer me 12 $/hr to do his son's "levers and pulley" science project due this Friday. I wanted to just walk away without responding to the dirtball but I'm too polite and told him I was too busy and to try the school of engineering on campus. Good luck with that though, it's finals week.
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LeePro Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:19:36pm |
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Bobibutu Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:21:37pm |
re: #609 bosforus
Yeah - all we need now is a bunch of BS engineers in our future.
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LeePro Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:22:23pm |
re: #611 Bobibutu
Yeah - all we need now is a bunch of BS engineers in our future.
...who didn't do their own homework!
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bosforus Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:27:42pm |
re: #610 LeePro
clever...
double-posting to try to wake folks up...
heh
ha ha, realized i wasn't posting in the most current thread. felt kind of stupid copying and pasting it but...it's 12:30, gimme a break. ;)
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Bobibutu Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:30:19pm |
re: #612 LeePro
...who didn't do their own homework!
This is a serious problem - The wanks get sorted out after how many deaths? How many get to do the math on bridges and buildings let alone other infrastructure - Brrrrr gets me and many others very pissed. I blame the parents for low moral values. But then WhoTF am I.
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bosforus Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:30:57pm |
re: #611 Bobibutu
Yeah - all we need now is a bunch of BS engineers in our future.
That's what we get from a bunch of BS parents that don't have a week (at least, depending on when the assignment was given) to help their kid.
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LeePro Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:32:12pm |
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bosforus Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:33:36pm |
re: #614 Bobibutu
This is a serious problem - The wanks get sorted out after how many deaths? How many get to do the math on bridges and buildings let alone other infrastructure - Brrrrr gets me and many others very pissed. I blame the parents for low moral values. But then WhoTF am I.
Exactly. Engineers need to have the integrity and humility to be able to say things like that's not in my training or help me with this problem before it endangers someone's life. A kid won't develop that if their parents do everything for them or worse, if their parent hires someone to do that for them.
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bosforus Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:34:51pm |
re: #616 LeePro
They need incentive!
/double-posted
Yeah, you want to be able to feed yourself when you're older? Then learn to do something right.
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bosforus Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:36:30pm |
I wonder what the other 100 people are doing logged in here at LGF. Hmmmm...
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LeePro Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:38:03pm |
re: #618 bosforus
Yeah, you want to be able to feed yourself when you're older? Then learn to do something right.
No, no, no...
I'm talking flat-out bribery. Gotta do something to somehow awaken 106 logged-in Lizards out of an apparent mass-lethargy.
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NY Nana Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:39:53pm |
re: #599 looking closely
Unfortunately, I know a lot about this particular problem.
The reason paracetamol/Tylenol is limited in volume sold in England and elsewhere (but not the USA) is because its easily overdosed for suicide purposes. (A small amount of alcohol with it greatly increases the toxicity).
The death is particularly horrible too, from massive hepatic necrosis, and its usually young women who do it.
The "antidote" N-acetyl cysteine ("mucomyst") works great. . .in medical textbooks. In the real world, its effectively useless.
You are very knowledgeable on this subject. Professional knowledge? I only wish that the FDA would mandate the same system here.
Spot on re who tops themselves, and not only in The UK..in the Orient it is also used by young women. The warnings on OTC meds here is less than impressive. A friend in London who we stay with when we go worked as an assistant in a local pharmacy. She had to take courses, and they are tested annually, IIRC, to make sure their knowledge is current. She and her husband will be here next week for a visit!
I have already used a lifetime allowance of Tylenol and paracetamol. I have severe osteo and other joint, cartilage, tendon and ligament issues that have made me legally handicapped. I have untoward effects from the RX meds, along with allergies. My pain threshold has actually improved a lot, and I very rarely take the meds.
I hope that no one you know was affected adversely by acetaminophen.
I am off to sleep...yet again up way too late!
Take care.
G'night, Lizards.
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Bobibutu Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:41:34pm |
re: #617 bosforus
Exactly. Engineers need to have the integrity and humility to be able to say things like that's not in my training or help me with this problem before it endangers someone's life. A kid won't develop that if their parents do everything for them or worse, if their parent hires someone to do that for them.
China is going to overwhelm us I am afraid.
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NY Nana Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:41:41pm |
re: #620 LeePro
ROTFL! Probably fell asleep on their keyboards, and will have some really nasty dents in their foreheads when they awaken.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:42:00pm |
Good morning { { {LeePro} } }. Been a little busy here with work.
Incentive? How about a failing grade. :)
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bosforus Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:44:22pm |
re: #627 Bobibutu
China is going to overwhelm us I am afraid.
That's why I chose Civil to other types of engineering. Hard to outsource federal/state/city work.
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pat Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:44:23pm |
re: #623 NY Nana
I do not let my kids take Tylenol. Nor is it allowed in my house. (my kids are in their 20's)
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LeePro Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:45:13pm |
re: #629 BlueCanuck
Good morning { { {LeePro} } }. Been a little busy here with work.
Incentive? How about a failing grade. :)
Hi, { { {Blue} } }!
I'm just trying to give dormant lizards an incentive to come back to life here!
Looks like a few woke up after all!
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bosforus Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:46:10pm |
re: #631 bosforus
Only loophole to that is that they come here from China and work in the state buildings here.
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pat Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:46:33pm |
re: #625 LeePro
{ { {NY Nana} } }
Add 2 {NYNana}'s and a *. lol
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LeePro Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:46:42pm |
re: #630 Bobibutu
I concur.
Cool.
RGR = I concur
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BlueCanuck Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:47:35pm |
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LeePro Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:48:02pm |
re: #638 pat
Nite all.
Nite, Pat. Not far behind you!
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Bobibutu Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:49:51pm |
re: #631 bosforus
That's why I chose Civil to other types of engineering. Hard to outsource federal/state/city work.
If you are a student - go for it and good on 'ya - some history courses will serve you well as well.
Pain in the ass but good info.
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NY Nana Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:51:05pm |
re: #632 pat
I do not let my kids take Tylenol. Nor is it allowed in my house. (my kids are in their 20's)
Good on you! Your kids are really very lucky. I just wish that more people were aware of the dangers. We get a myriad of ads, commercials, mailings, name it, for RX meds. IMHO, no advertising should be allowed on TV, in newspapers and magazines(remember those?), nor on the radio, or in the mail.
I take all the damned postcards that fall out of the mags, and send them back to the company, unless our name is on it.
BTW, since mine are 44, 42, 40 and almost 36? Yours really are kids! ;)
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LeePro Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:52:30pm |
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bosforus Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:53:05pm |
re: #642 Bobibutu
If you are a student - go for it and good on 'ya - some history courses will serve you well as well.
Pain in the ass but good info.
I just graduated. Gonna work for a while before I go back for the master's. Books from classes that don't involve equations have a tough time keeping my attention, that includes history. Which history are you thinking of? General history?
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Bobibutu Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:53:25pm |
re: #637 LeePro
Cool.
RGR = I concur
Well actually it's RGR Wilco = I have received and will comply - WWii/mil talk
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LeePro Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:55:30pm |
re: #643 NY Nana
Good on you! Your kids are really very lucky. I just wish that more people were aware of the dangers. We get a myriad of ads, commercials, mailings, name it, for RX meds. IMHO, no advertising should be allowed on TV, in newspapers and magazines(remember those?), nor on the radio, or in the mail.
I take all the damned postcards that fall out of the mags, and send them back to the company, unless our name is on it.
BTW, since mine are 44, 42, 40 and almost 36? Yours really are kids! ;)
I must be living in a bubble!
What's up with Tylenol? I take Advil, myself, and my "kids" are 40 and 36, so no control there.
Just haven't heard the Tylenol flap...
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Bobibutu Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:00:51am |
re: #645 bosforus
I just graduated. Gonna work for a while before I go back for the master's. Books from classes that don't involve equations have a tough time keeping my attention, that includes history. Which history are you thinking of? General history?
Google COINS and then work backwards.
Victor David Hanson
[Link: www.victorhanson.com...]
Is a good place to start.
He has his shit together.
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:02:35am |
re: #646 Bobibutu
Well actually it's RGR Wilco = I have received and will comply - WWii/mil talk
Thanks.
Figgered that anyway.
But you never can tell, with all the acronyms thrown about all over the internet. Coulda' meant something like "Real Good Rhetoric," for all we know...
; )
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bosforus Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:04:03am |
re: #649 Bobibutu
Google COINS and then work backwards.
Victor David Hanson
[Link: www.victorhanson.com...]
Is a good place to start.
He has his shit together.
Thanks. Will do ... tomorrow ... assuming I remember that this conversation took place. :)
Night, everybody.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:04:28am |
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:07:35am |
re: #652 BlueCanuck
Yeah, that's me. :)
/armour is in the shop for polishing.
LOL
You are quite dashing without the armor, sir!
* and so is your lady (I scrolled back some in your photos!)
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:07:35am |
RGR just happens to be Sturm Ruger & Company's stock symbol (presently trading at $7.54 a share on the NYSE).
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Bobibutu Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:07:45am |
re: #650 LeePro
Thanks.
Figgered that anyway.But you never can tell, with all the acronyms thrown about all over the internet. Coulda' meant something like "Real Good Rhetoric," for all we know...
; )
Stick to the .mil and IBM acros and you will be fine. They have been online forever. i.e., since the beginning.
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NY Nana Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:08:14am |
re: #648 LeePro
See this post, Lee.
I learned something about it, as I am an RN (Ret), but it makes me just furious that the FDA does not make warnings mandatory. What is their problem? Too much Shrillary, and her stealth campaign her first occupation of the White House re health care?
/I am shocked that she didn't claim to be an MD.
And I think that the FDA is very much in the pocket of the big pharmaceutical companies. I could rant on this for hours,especially re the far too early results of new meds being rushed to the markets without careful testing..and then they cry when the class action suites start to pour in.
Bah.
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redc1c4 Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:10:11am |
re: #441 JeremyR
Non steroidal anti inflamatory drug. Aspirin, tylenol Motrin etc.
acetaminophen is *not* a NSAID....
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NY Nana Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:12:53am |
G'nite, all! I am really closing down, as it is after 3 AM here!
/I will now go into a self-induced state of suspended animation until after the results of the PA primary are in.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz.
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redc1c4 Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:18:04am |
re: #660 LeePro
Damn!
acetaminophen is a fine drug that w*rks well within it's limitations.....
and i've seen mucomyst do the j*b just fine on Tylenol OD's: you just have to start in time and dose it right.
however, i have a stack of scay "nurse" stories that will curl your hair. %-)
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:20:55am |
Saw Miguel downstairs. Invited him up.
Miguel, you here?
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redc1c4 Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:25:02am |
re: #662 LeePro
Saw Miguel downstairs. Invited him up.
Miguel, you here?
maybe he's waiting on a visa? %-)
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:32:40am |
Where IS everybody?
HELLO-O-O-O-O
HELLO-O-O-O-O
hello-o-o-o-o
hello-o-o-o-o
hello-o-o-o-o
:-° %u266C%u266A%u266B [whistling in the dark]
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:34:21am |
re: #663 redc1c4
maybe he's waiting on a visa? %-)
We don' need no fookin' veeeeeeesas in here, gringo!
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:43:24am |
:-° %u266C%u266A%u266B
*gettin' scary in here*
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:45:28am |
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:45:38am |
Mornin folks...red, Blue, Nana, bos, Lee, Fenway, Bob...Lol(?) & Miguel(?)
Great...Clinton might(or would...what ever) attack Iran after Iran has destroyed Israel and Israel, likely as not, has already retaliated.
Isn't it getting a bit obvious that we've absolutely no intention of preventing Iran from going nuclear - unless it comes as some sort of complete accident or fluke?
Another vunderbar friggin day in the neighborhood.
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redc1c4 Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:46:47am |
re: #665 LeePro
We don' need no fookin' veeeeeeesas in here, gringo!
callate bruja...... %-)
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redc1c4 Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:48:16am |
re: #670 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Mornin folks...red, Blue, Nana, bos, Lee, Fenway, Bob...Lol(?) & Miguel(?)
Great...Clinton might(or would...what ever) attack Iran after Iran has destroyed Israel and Israel, likely as not, has already retaliated.
Isn't it getting a bit obvious that we've absolutely no intention of preventing Iran from going nuclear - unless it comes as some sort of complete accident or fluke? Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Another vunderbar friggin day in the neighborhood.
/you left out the sarc part, but i fixed it for ya! %-)
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littleoldlady Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:48:43am |
Lol(?)
Yes? aboo? ;-)
Great...Clinton might(or would...what ever) attack Iran after Iran has destroyed Israel and Israel, likely as not, has already retaliated.
That's more than George Bush is promising.
I get to vote for her (or the Manchurian candidate) today.
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redc1c4 Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:49:01am |
re: #672 freetoken
Happy Earth Day everybody!
remind me to run the heater & the AC at the same time today. %-)
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:49:32am |
good morning aboo. Pretty dreary out there at times isn't it.
/I recommend puppies as an antidote. :)
re: #639 BlueCanuck
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redc1c4 Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:49:56am |
re: #674 littleoldlady
That's more than George Bush is promising.
I get to vote for her (or the Manchurian candidate) today.
vote for her: we want to string this out as long as we can......
/pass the popcorn
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redc1c4 Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:51:39am |
re: #676 BlueCanuck
good morning aboo. Pretty dreary out there at times isn't it.
/I recommend puppies as an antidote. :)
saw the pic: you realize that now she's gonna spend all your money, break your heart AND steal your dog when she leaves......
/upside is, you might get a hit Country song out if it all %-)
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:52:32am |
re: #678 redc1c4
No worries, it's her dog. :)
/I will probably be suckered with duties. Worth it in my opinion.
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:53:17am |
re: #671 redc1c4
callate bruja...... %-)
Hush witch, yourself, asshole!
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redc1c4 Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:58:06am |
re: #680 LeePro
Hush witch, yourself, asshole!
that would be "callate culo"...... %-)
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:03:11am |
re: #674 littleoldlady
That's more than George Bush is promising.
I get to vote for her (or the Manchurian candidate) today.
Hi, { { { L.o.L.} } }!
I remember how sad you were during Super Tuesday that tha PA primary wasn't until 4/22! You said something like "What's the point?" Funny how some things can turn completely around, hunh? Now your vote is pretty damn significant!
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:04:28am |
Good morning { { {littleoldlady} } }. All ready to make your mark in history?
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littleoldlady Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:07:03am |
re: #683 LeePro
Lee! :-)
It's still as insignificant as it ever was, since our current candidates were chosen by the media and...Iowa and New Hampshire.
It probably doesn't matter what Hillary does in PA today. "They" want Obama, and they will have him.
BlueCanuck! :-)
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:12:41am |
re: #686 littleoldlady
Lee! :-)
It's still as insignificant as it ever was, since our current candidates were chosen by the media and...Iowa and New Hampshire.
It probably doesn't matter what Hillary does in PA today. "They" want Obama, and they will have him.
BlueCanuck! :-)
Well-l-l-l-l-l...
Maybe if you punch that "VOTE" button with a significant vengeance ...?
%-(
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:14:43am |
re: #687 LeePro
Well-l-l-l-l-l...
Maybe if you punch that "VOTE" button with a significant vengeance ...?%-(
Heh, heh, just got a vision of punching a ballot with a .357. :)
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littleoldlady Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:16:55am |
Nah. My (Hungarian) cold fury is much more effective than my (Russian) temper tantrums.
/the DNA will out ;-)
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:18:30am |
re: #688 BlueCanuck
Heh, heh, just got a vision of punching a ballot with a .357. :)
LOL
After my adventures yesterday [owwwww, my thumb!], that is really funny!
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:19:59am |
re: #689 littleoldlady
Nah. My (Hungarian) cold fury is much more effective than my (Russian) temper tantrums.
/the DNA will out ;-)
German/Irish here. Much more prone to acting out!
;)
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:20:02am |
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:20:49am |
re: #691 LeePro
Don't get my scottish up. It's in constant battle with my english.
*snicker*
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littleoldlady Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:23:25am |
Yeah, I'm a schizophrenic...
...and so am I!
Having said all that, I'm hoping Hillary wipes the floor with B. Hussein here.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:32:51am |
Lol, Bush is snake-bit and tired of being stabbed in the back, shoot you can't hardly blame him. But kicking the Iranian problem down the road...when all we really need to do is pull-out and use a couple of pages out of the Mullah's handbook?
Blue...don't get me going on dogs, puppies along with kids/babies - I really do have some work to do.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:34:02am |
re: #697 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Blue...don't get me going on dogs, puppies along with kids/babies - I really do have some work to do.
Just doing my best to lift spirits and hampering work. ;)
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littleoldlady Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:39:43am |
re: #697 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Lol, Bush is snake-bit and tired of being stabbed in the back
Alternate theory: Different people are running the show during his second term than were pulling the strings in the first.
I didn't vote for James Baker!
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:44:22am |
re: #699 littleoldlady
Alternate theory: Different people are running the show during his second term than were pulling the strings in the first.
I didn't vote for James Baker!
Hammer. Nail.
Your theory same as mine!
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littleoldlady Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:45:42am |
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:47:53am |
Abdullah to ask Bush to cancel visit
"Jordan's King Abdullah is expected to advise US President George W. Bush to postpone or cancel his upcoming visit to the Middle East," ....[...]"if there is not an agreement of principles between Israel and the Palestinians on the horizon."
Sounds good to me. To bad he didnt demand that Condi be pulled back to DC for the remainder of Bush's term.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:48:59am |
Good morning Miguel, busy lurking in the threads below?
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:50:55am |
When I was a younglin, BB was a world-class icon.
But she has always been a bit on the moonbatish -hippish- side.
Anyway, because of good memories, I'm ready to give her a break and appreciate her concern for the muslims invasion in France and other European countries.
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:52:40am |
re: #707 BlueCanuck
Good morning Miguel, busy lurking in the threads below?
Sort of, Blue. Mainly on this one, I read it all.
That means I've seen YOU man! Now I know you.
And your stalkee and Rascal, etc ;)
A few threads have been so nasty I didn't comment or read them.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:53:49am |
re: #700 LeePro
Different people are running the show during his second term than were pulling the strings in the first.
...and that encapsulates the origin of our long and fast growing list of mega-problems - Colin Powell.
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:53:58am |
re: #711 Hengineer
off topic.
hi!
ROFL!
Hi!
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Hengineer Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:54:53am |
ah killing a few minutes before UNREP callout.
not much time now before I have to go back to the "real" world.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:55:23am |
re: #710 MigueldowninMexico
Yeah, I don't have much too hide really. :)
As to some of those threads, I avoided them like the proverbial plague. I have strong opinions and I KNOW I would have offended some people.
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:55:30am |
Are you telling the Tale of Two Bushes?
Was that Dickens too?
/No puns allowed, ok?
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:56:19am |
re: #715 BlueCanuck
Yeah, I don't have much too hide really. :)
As to some of those threads, I avoided them like the proverbial plague. I have strong opinions and I KNOW I would have offended some people.
Same here!
Better to stay away ;)
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:56:20am |
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:57:39am |
re: #710 MigueldowninMexico
A few threads have been so nasty I didn't comment or read them.
Arid desert for a few days.
Except for my gun class score of 99!
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:58:02am |
re: #714 Hengineer
ah killing a few minutes before UNREP callout.
not much time now before I have to go back to the "real" world.
This thing here is quite real too!
Every month whenI down those 400 pesos (about 36 dollars) I'm reminded of how REAL this thing is.
LOL!
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:58:59am |
re: #720 ploome hineni
and she enjoyed walking around nekkid
boy was she georgous
She was! :)
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littleoldlady Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:00:00am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------->
Help yourselves!
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Panhandler Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:00:12am |
And, because conservegirl was all wound up about them last night, I present for the consideration of the northern epicures:
Alabama's Answer To Scrapple
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Hengineer Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:00:20am |
mmm the fun begins
"The time is now 1200, this is a callout for UNREP Detail...."
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:01:00am |
re: #721 LeePro
Arid desert for a few days.
Except for my gun class score of 99!
Congratulations for that! :)
And...we still have the wonderful Dead Threads ;)
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:01:15am |
re: #712 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
You quoted me with...
Different people are running the show during his second term than were pulling the strings in the first.
That belongs to L.o.L., but I agree!
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Panhandler Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:02:06am |
re: #725 littleoldlady
Dang LoL, you nailed it again. Perhaps you should intuit Savage's grandfather timing, save him a lot of running around.
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:02:27am |
re: #726 Panhandler
And, because conservegirl was all wound up about them last night, I present for the consideration of the northern epicures:
Alabama's Answer To Scrapple
I love grilled cheese! Mmmm...
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littleoldlady Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:02:38am |
re: #712 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
...and that encapsulates the origin of our long and fast growing list of mega-problems - Colin Powell.
IIRC (because it feels like a century ago) Powell was the one who was frustrated because he didn't agree with Bush's in-crowd at the time.
In my opinion, our "long and fast growing list of mega-problems" can be encapsulated as follows: A Crisis of Leadership™
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:02:51am |
re: #716 MigueldowninMexico
Are you telling the Tale of Two Bushes?
Was that Dickens too?
/No puns allowed, ok?
Two dicks.
/ NOT a pun!
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:02:53am |
re: #727 littleoldlady
w00t! :-)
Wow littleoldlady!
Your aim is fantastic! :)
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:03:47am |
littleoldlady, why aren't you picking the powerball numbers?
/with timing like that you should do well. :)
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littleoldlady Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:04:33am |
re: #731 Panhandler
Panhandler! :-)
If I was any good at "nailing" anything other than fruitcup, I would have won the Powerball already and be typing this from my laptop on some remote tropical beach.
;-)
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:04:36am |
re: #736 BlueCanuck
littleoldlady, why aren't you picking the powerball numbers?
/with timing like that you should do well. :)
She would be good at shooting too!
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:06:16am |
littleoldlady
Do you want a tropical bitch?
I have a neighbor here I can sell you...
She knows the lives of the whole block lol
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:06:45am |
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LeePro Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:07:36am |
re: #725 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------->
Help yourselves!
Grab and run! ! !
Lizards all...
I simply must go now. Infection causing swollen gums/toothache/headache/eye-drool............ gah-h-h-h-h-h!
Love you ALL [well, except one who could be loved but is just mean]!
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Panhandler Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:08:38am |
re: #737 littleoldlady
Panhandler! :-)
If I was any good at "nailing" anything other than fruitcup, I would have won the Powerball already and be typing this from my laptop on some remote tropical beach.
;-)
I got your remote beach right here. This place has ambiance.
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littleoldlady Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:10:14am |
re: #741 BlueCanuck
And how do we know you're not. ;)
/the intertubes are a wonderful thing.
Very true.
/good thing you can't see my dungeon ;-)
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:10:28am |
re: #742 LeePro
Grab and run! ! !
Lizards all...I simply must go now. Infection causing swollen gums/toothache/headache/eye-drool....... ..... gah-h-h-h-h-h!
Love you ALL [well, except one who could be loved but is just mean]!
{LeePro}
Hope you get better soon! Take a lot of care.
Love you too :)
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:12:57am |
re: #745 ploome hineni
and happy
she was more beautiful than Angelina
remember how beautiful she was?
Yes I remember her well. I saw several of her pictures, like Belle du Jour.
But for me Brigitte was a lot more attractive.
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littleoldlady Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:13:49am |
re: #744 Panhandler
I got your remote beach right here. This place has ambiance.
After I win the Powerball I'll be able to buy better "ambience" than that.
/at the moment that's about what the budget can handle... :-(re: #745 ploome hineni
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Panhandler Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:16:53am |
re: #752 savage_nation
Man, you're really covering ground there guy, made it over the California line yet?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:17:05am |
Good morning Savge. Dodging the global warming where you are?
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Panhandler Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:19:02am |
re: #759 savage_nation
Been there, not that bad - but they don't have cheese grits.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:19:49am |
re: #709 ploome hineni
Unfortunately I can't disagree with 709 or 719. Were I to recommend a course to Israel it would be shove the Pal's into Egypt and/or Syria then ask the SoB's(the League/OIC) if they'd like to consider new negotiation's sometime over the period of next couple of centuries.
Ending the statement or discussion with 'don't blink or even think about moving...now go STFU.'
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littleoldlady Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:22:39am |
re: #764 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
I'm writing you in as President when I go to vote today, aboo!
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:23:41am |
re: #766 littleoldlady
I'm writing you in as President when I go to vote today, aboo!
That's right!
Today's your day of voting!
:)
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Panhandler Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:23:44am |
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littleoldlady Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:25:05am |
re: #769 ploome hineni
You are!
/and if you're not, you at least LOOK much younger, which is all that matters.
:-)
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Panhandler Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:31:09am |
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coquimbojoe Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:33:15am |
re: #767 MigueldowninMexico
That's right!
Today's your day of voting!
:)
Hey Miguelito! You asked about 'sour grapes' from the evolution thread (I hadn't touched the computer since yesterday morning). None by me Zombie is feeling very beaten up and has said he/she wouldn't be posting for a awhile.
I think the debate is good, the emotion wasted. No one was swayed one way or the other. I bet there are people still posting over there.....
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Panhandler Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:37:21am |
re: #780 ploome hineni
Careful ploome, we don't want the ID/creation thread being resurrected.
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Salem Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:37:44am |
re: #779 coquimbojoe
I bet there are people still posting over there.....
Yeah, a clip of some guy drinking bongwater.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:41:46am |
re: #783 savage_nation
Gahhh, Why won't they give up. :p
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:44:05am |
re: #785 savage_nation
Yeah, the same people making the exact same arguments and no one listening to the either side. I have seen these "discussions" before in real life.
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coquimbojoe Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:44:44am |
re: #782 Salem
Yeah, a clip of some guy drinking bongwater.
Proving what? devolution?
Goodnight Lizards. Savage, stay safe on the roads. See most of you in the morning.
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:45:59am |
re: #779 coquimbojoe
Hey Miguelito! You asked about 'sour grapes' from the evolution thread (I hadn't touched the computer since yesterday morning). None by me Zombie is feeling very beaten up and has said he/she wouldn't be posting for a awhile.
I think the debate is good, the emotion wasted. No one was swayed one way or the other. I bet there are people still posting over there.....
The bad thing about that thread, and the Robert Spencer one- is that some people were personally at odds, even hating each other.
I'm sorry for zombie.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:46:40am |
Night joe, sleep well and we shall see you on the morrow.
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:46:57am |
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Salem Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:47:19am |
re: #787 BlueCanuck
Yeah, the same people making the exact same arguments and no one listening to the either side. I have seen these "discussions" before in real life.
If they are making the exact same arguments, why bother listening to either side? Is there a benefit to listening to the same argument you've heard over and over?
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:48:39am |
re: #794 savage_nation
That thread isn't the only one with someone hating another.
I know. It's sad...
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:49:22am |
re: #795 Salem
If they are making the exact same arguments, why bother listening to either side? Is there a benefit to listening to the same argument you've heard over and over?
I might be hated for saying this, nut I see it as a power trip.
"I know better than you".
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BlueCanuck Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:50:37am |
re: #795 Salem
[self deleted], I don't want to start it all over again. :)
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Salem Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:52:53am |
re: #788 coquimbojoe
Proving what? devolution?
I don't know, but it turns out that Germany's dim slacker stoneheads are a lot like ours.
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:55:12am |
re: #799 savage_nation
yep. got first hand experience with that today.....
Did you have a row with someone, savage?
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littleoldlady Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:58:57am |
re: #803 savage_nation
You're going to make us look for it?
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Panhandler Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:59:31am |
re: #798 MigueldowninMexico
Miguel, we're dealing with some core beliefs here. People tend to get a little adamant when others express a differing world view. It's one thing to argue over dry vs wet barbecue, quite another when one is expressing basic beliefs. I read the whole thing and came away unsurprised in the realization that my view isn't the same as others but it's my view and I am content with it. The upshot of the whole long thread was that nobody posted an argument/explanation that changed anybody elses concepts, which is what I expected would be the result.
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Panhandler Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:02:12am |
re: #803 savage_nation
Savage had a disagreement with another poster? Perish the thought, not our Savage - quiet, humble, unassuming Savage?
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:03:10am |
re: #805 Panhandler
Miguel, we're dealing with some core beliefs here. People tend to get a little adamant when others express a differing world view. It's one thing to argue over dry vs wet barbecue, quite another when one is expressing basic beliefs. I read the whole thing and came away unsurprised in the realization that my view isn't the same as others but it's my view and I am content with it. The upshot of the whole long thread was that nobody posted an argument/explanation that changed anybody elses concepts, which is what I expected would be the result.
I agree in general :)
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:04:17am |
re: #806 savage_nation
Scroll up to post #219. That's where it began.
Oh.
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BabbaZee Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:09:19am |
Pakistan signs pact with Taliban : Fuck You, America!
PESHAWAR, Pakistan (AP) - Pakistan freed a pro-Taliban cleric and quickly signed an accord with his hard-line group Monday, the first major step by the new government to talk peace with Islamic militants and break with President Pervez Musharraf's policy of using force.
The day's developments began with the release of Sufi Muhammad, who is believed in his 70s, after more than five years in custody following his dispatch of thousands of followers to fight in Afghanistan.
A few hours later, the government of North West Frontier Province said Muhammad's group signed a pact renouncing violence in return for being allowed to peacefully campaign for Islamic law. Security forces have the right to "act against" any extremists who attack the government.
Analysts cautioned it would take time to judge the new approach, noting Musharraf also struck truces with some groups that U.S. officials have complained gave Pakistani militants as well as Taliban and al-Qaida fighters a chance to build up their strength.
The anti-government sentiments in the region affected by Monday's deal are seen as less intractable than those held by Taliban sympathizers in the tribal regions of Waziristan, where U.S. officials believe Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaida leaders are hiding.
Provincial government spokesman Faridullah Khan said the pact covers the Swat Valley and neighboring districts in this area along the Afghan frontier.
It was not clear if the deal was accepted by Muhammad's son-in-law, Mualana Fazlullah, whose fighters seized control of the Swat Valley last year, prompting a bloody army offensive.
Fazlullah's spokesman could not be reached for comment late Monday. Fazlullah is reportedly at odds with Muhammad, and experts expressed doubts the younger militant would change.
"I think Maulana Fazlullah will continue with whatever he is doing," said Mehmood Shah, former security chief for Pakistan's tribal areas.
Talat Masood, a retired general and security analyst, said the deal with Muhammad demonstrated the new government's willingness to try dialogue with militants and could increase pressure on Fazlullah and others to lay down their arms.
"But it's a long way before you can make any judgment as to whether this is a success," he said, citing the previous failed peace efforts with pro-Taliban militants.
"We have to see ... to what extent both parties are going to abide by the agreement and whether the militants use this period to consolidate," he said.
Pakistan's national government, led by the party of assassinated Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, wants to use dialogue and development to curb militancy in the tribal region. The North West Frontier provincial government, which is led by a Pashtun nationalist party, has joined the effort.
It is a major shift from the more aggressive approach that Musharraf's military regime took with U.S. support after Pakistan joined the war on terror following the Sept. 11 terror attacks.
Western nations have voiced support for dialogue if Pakistan's militants renounce violence, but the release of Muhammad could cause some unease. Officials at the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad could not be reached for comment late Monday.
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:11:00am |
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Salem Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:11:04am |
re: #798 MigueldowninMexico
I might be hated for saying this, nut I see it as a power trip.
"I know better than you".
Well, people are haughty and arrogant everywhere. But if you are in a debate and you want to get your point across and be persuasive in your argument, you have to deal with attitudes and sacred cows in the crossfire. There are plenty of threads to be found here where a sensitive lizard can go and preach to the choir. Some threads involve a little rhetorical grappling.
Although I think part of the problem is that theological and scientific discourse bond about as well as matter and antimatter.
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Panhandler Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:11:17am |
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yma o hyd Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:12:36am |
re: #48 LoFlyer
European laws regarding freedom of speech are a joke. I mean sending someone to jail for saying the holocaust never occurred is a travesty of justice. I may disagree against the stated opinion, but sending them to jail? As much as I dislike the media's infatuation with Marxist ideology, should we send them all to jail? Opposing opinions and debate is the cornerstone of western democracy. This is thought control.
I'm late to this thread (blame the timezones!) - but have to take issue with this:
In Germany and Austria it is against the law to deny that the Holocaust took place. Thus the punishment for 'deniers' in these two countries.
You can deny the Holocaust in any other European country - nothing happens.
I wonder if people all over the world would be happy if German and Austrian people, not just Neo-Nazis, went around denying this? Thus making it easy to forget all about it, and regarding the Third reich as a normal state?
Why do you think Germans have made such huge steps in accepting their past, taking responsibility for it, and doing their best to see it never happens again?
And why is it, do you think, that stalinism is still hankered after in Russia, even though people know about the GULAG?
Denying the Holocaust is against the law in Germany for very good reasons, which should be appreciated especially by those who fought against Hitler.
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goddessoftheclassroom Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:14:26am |
re: #815 savage_nation
And why do we ever take prisoners? Battlefield executions should be policy. Kill all of them, leave none alive. And the hell with intelligence gathering. Fuck it.
I agree with you to a certain extent, but I have a feeling that if we started out harshly, we'd get far more cooperation and thus have fewer to deal with later--and better intelligence from those we did capture.
The time for mercy is after their surrender.
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:15:35am |
Ok Babba
La Jornada, the communist newspaper from Mexico City has an article with the title: "Hamas leader belies Carter: says they don't plan to recognize Israel".
At least they're being frank about it.
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BabbaZee Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:18:29am |
re: #815 savage_nation
And why do we ever take prisoners? Battlefield executions should be policy. Kill all of them, leave none alive. And the hell with intelligence gathering. Fuck it.
Intelligence gathering is only intelligence gathering if you can use the established interrogation methods designed to gather intelligence.
So....yea, if we are not going to do that, no reason to take a prisoner.
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BabbaZee Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:20:37am |
re: #816 Panhandler
I don't know, what exactly did you have in mind?
What I have in my mind is now classified as crime
lol
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MigueldowninMexico Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:21:16am |
re: #822 BabbaZee
Shalom Miguel!
Shalom Babba :)
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BabbaZee Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:24:49am |
re: #829 savage_nation
All we ever get out of the prisoners are lies, lies and more lies on top of lies and lies and bullshit. Whats the damn point in feeding and housing known liars?
All of us have fed and housed liars at some point in our lives
LOL
But I understand what you are saying.
My feelings on this can't even be posted here.
But it related to Amalekites.
Saul , of course, did not listen.
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Silhouette Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:46:28am |
re: #787 BlueCanuck
Yeah, the same people making the exact same arguments and no one listening to the either side.
re: #805 Panhandler
The upshot of the whole long thread was that nobody posted an argument/explanation that changed anybody elses concepts, which is what I expected would be the result.
So, y'all are saying the discussion never evolved?
:rimshot:
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Alibaba Tue, Apr 22, 2008 7:19:42am |
Bardot is not the problem - the Islamist thugs in France are. The French had better wake up before it is too late - and it already may be too late.
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Alibaba Tue, Apr 22, 2008 7:24:14am |
re: #749 MigueldowninMexico
Neither has aged well, especially Bardot. Deneuve has become very matronly lookin - I saw her in a movie recently.
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