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The Problem with Brigitte

Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:47:02 pm PDT

Here’s Dissident Frogman on The problem with Brigitte Bardot.

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1 Salem  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:49:27pm

Yes, but how does she feel about Intelligent Design?...

2 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:50:01pm
Bardot is but one small crab in that fetid European cesspool of politics, but the interesting point beyond her own person is that in this instance, every party involved is equally deserving of contempt.


Big Lizard is firing on all cylinders tonight. Nice work, Boss.

3 Buster Bunny  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:50:25pm

i dunno .. 50 years later .. those boobs dont stand up for themselves .. they gotta have an issue to ride on.

4 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:50:36pm
5 x-ray  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:51:02pm

That guy speaks volumes for a mime.

6 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:51:15pm

re: #3 Buster Bunny

i dunno .. 50 years later .. those boobs dont stand up for themselves .. they gotta have an issue to ride on.

Would yours if you had boobs?

7 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:51:40pm

There was a time where there wasn't much wrong with this woman. I am inclined to think that there isn't much wrong now.

8 EtNorskTroll  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:51:56pm

*Huff*

*Puff*

Oh~!

Ah....oh,....give me a minute, here....

*huff, puff, huff*

I've been in Omaha, Nebraska and I just got here.....

Am I too late to get in the discussion about ID and Zombie's position on it?

(*sweating profusely*)

~ENT

?

9 Orbit Rain  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:52:07pm

Bardot, iirc, is in the attention-whore business.

10 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:54:37pm

re: #8 EtNorskTroll

hahahahaha, good one.

11 Buster Bunny  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:54:39pm

Oh my god .. i've discovered the problem ....

She's french !

12 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:54:45pm

re: #9 Orbit Rain

Bardot, iirc, is in the attention-whore business.

But, is it for a good cause?

Please, don't group her with Paris Hilton.

13 snowcrash  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:56:36pm

re: #8 EtNorskTroll
Try the Spencer thread.

14 pat  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:56:53pm

I will tell you this, whatever her politics, she is not going to shut up.

15 Sorge  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:58:49pm

Hmmm. Against Jews and Muslims, pro-animal rights, ethnic nationalist...

What was that book by Jonah Goldberg again?

16 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 6:59:12pm

I'm inclined to agree with DF. Her situation sort of reminds me of the situation with Lionheart - defend the rights of people to free speech, but that the individuals themselves shouldn't necessarily be held up as paragons of virtue.

17 Dianna  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:01:22pm

No one can accuse the dissident frogman of being inarticulate.

But it would help if I were entirely sure exactly what's going on, I think. The new computer installation kept me away from far too much news last week.

18 Mich-again  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:02:01pm

Brigitte needs an industrial duty German bra, a Stoppenzemfromfloppin.

19 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:03:36pm

re: #17 Dianna

No one can accuse the dissident frogman of being inarticulate.

But it would help if I were entirely sure exactly what's going on, I think. The new computer installation kept me away from far too much news last week.

Frontpagemag has an article on her.

20 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:04:02pm
Bottom line: Brigitte Bardot is not Oriana Fallaci, and comparing them can only tarnish the reputation and the character of the sorely missed Italian defendress of the West.

frogman rules!

21 Jonn Lilyea  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:04:12pm

After reading Frogman's piece, i still don't see how prosecuting anyone for recording and publishing their personal opinions, regardless of their content, is good for a traditional liberal society.

22 Dianna  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:04:21pm

re: #19 Crimsonfisted

Thanks.

23 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:04:48pm

re: #18 Mich-again

Brigitte needs an industrial duty German bra, a Stoppenzemfromfloppin.

Where can I get me one of THOSE!

/in need of a bra fitter these days.

TMI? Apologies.

24 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:04:55pm

re: #19 Crimsonfisted

I'm becoming increasingly soured on Frontpage.

25 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:05:45pm

re: #24 Killgore Trout

I'm becoming increasingly soured on Frontpage.

Do tell. Why is that?

26 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:06:27pm

re: #23 Crimsonfisted

Machine Girl
....wait for the Drill Bra.

27 DesertSage  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:06:30pm

Did he say that Brigitte was a "crab"?

28 LoFlyer  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:06:49pm

Bridgette Bardot was one of the sex symbols before I reached puberty, and I appreciated her looks, like Jane Fonda she had more curves than brains. If France convicts her they will be sending the wrong message to the Islamist "activists". From what I have seen she is toast in the French judicial system..

29 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:07:20pm

re: #23 Crimsonfisted

Where can I get me one of THOSE!

/in need of a bra fitter these days.

TMI? Apologies.

Are you anywhere near Chicago? Go to Intimacy at 900 North Michigan ( where Bloomies is) and ask for Tanya. She's the guru of bras. Trust me.

Warning: you will spend more than you imagined.....

30 Dianna  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:08:00pm

re: #24 Killgore Trout

I haven't read them much in the last year - I've been too busy. But what has been making you unhappy?

31 Bacchus's daddy  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:08:05pm

Her beliefs and associations may be tawdry, but the legal sanctions against her for her relatively innocuous comments is disturbing to say the least.

32 EC Marm  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:09:12pm

Whatever her politics and moonbatism, it was still pretty startling that what she said was considered criminal. Fwance.

33 soulpile  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:09:51pm

Ok, so I don't agree with her politics. I still don't think she should be prosecuted for her speech.

34 rain of lead  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:10:33pm

Hey guys

35 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:10:55pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww
That was obscene, creepy, awful.

Give a warning next time!

THIS is my speed. Really.

I mean, REALLY.

36 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:10:56pm
37 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:11:49pm

re: #29 Grammy Cracker

Sadly, no. I am searching my yellowpages though.

38 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:11:52pm

re: #30 Dianna

I've noticed a general paleo-con trend of late.

39 rain of lead  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:11:57pm

waiting...... waiting......

40 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:13:48pm

I just give up.

41 Dianna  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:14:12pm

re: #33 soulpile

Me, neither.

I can disapprove of her associations without being willing to throw her to the Islamist wolves while I'm at it; heck, she's right - it's disgusting how the animals are slaughtered!

42 DesertSage  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:14:21pm

re: #40 MandyManners

I just give up.

Don't ever give up, Mandy.

43 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:14:33pm

Freedom of speech is SO FRENCH, until you actually say something that starts them sniffing. Blame it on Napoleon.

44 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:15:01pm

re: #23 Crimsonfisted

Where can I get me one of THOSE!

/in need of a bra fitter these days.

TMI? Apologies.

Try a living bra.

45 Dianna  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:15:09pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Isolationist?

46 Dianna  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:15:44pm

re: #39 rain of lead

Waiting for Godot?

47 rain of lead  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:16:10pm

dying to go ot here with a tidbit that will put a smile on your faces
that cool with ya'll?

48 LoFlyer  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:16:42pm

European laws regarding freedom of speech are a joke. I mean sending someone to jail for saying the holocaust never occurred is a travesty of justice. I may disagree against the stated opinion, but sending them to jail? As much as I dislike the media's infatuation with Marxist ideology, should we send them all to jail? Opposing opinions and debate is the cornerstone of western democracy. This is thought control.

49 DesertSage  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:17:12pm

re: #47 rain of lead

Just get on with it, rain.

50 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:17:15pm

re: #42 DesertSage

Don't ever give up, Mandy.

Well, you know me. I get back up again when I get knocked down.

51 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:17:29pm

re: #47 rain of lead

dying to go ot here with a tidbit that will put a smile on your faces
that cool with ya'll?

I think we really NEED it, don't you?

52 Dianna  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:17:38pm

re: #47 rain of lead

I think that, if it's a good link, why not?

53 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:17:40pm

re: #48 LoFlyer

European laws regarding freedom of speech are a joke. I mean sending someone to jail for saying the holocaust never occurred is a travesty of justice. I may disagree against the stated opinion, but sending them to jail? As much as I dislike the media's infatuation with Marxist ideology, should we send them all to jail? Opposing opinions and debate is the cornerstone of western democracy. This is thought control.

We are in the West. They aren't.

54 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:17:56pm

re: #41 Dianna

Me, neither.

I can disapprove of her associations without being willing to throw her to the Islamist wolves while I'm at it; heck, she's right - it's disgusting how the animals are slaughtered!


Absolutely. Some of the stories I have heard are, well, let's just say some of the farmers here locally are careful to whom they sell their stock, for that reason. I won't go into details.

55 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:18:23pm

re: #44 JeremyR

Try a living bra.

I had forgotten about those!

56 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:19:04pm

re: #55 Crimsonfisted

I had forgotten about those!

Nothing like a dirty old man with big hands to hold em up.

57 rain of lead  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:19:07pm

I just found out that my 5 yr old will get to lead the Pledge of Alligence on cctv for her entire Elementary school on wed.

Proud Pappa :)

58 Maine's Michael  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:19:29pm

Densely written piece.

So, Bardot's a bit of a fascist-racist. Many of her generation are.

It will be hard, in Europe, for anti-islamists to shed that encrustation that will accompany the increasing popularity of anti-islamist thought.

That encrustation will slow it down, for sure.

59 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:19:35pm

re: #48 LoFlyer

European laws regarding freedom of speech are a joke. I mean sending someone to jail for saying the holocaust never occurred is a travesty of justice. I may disagree against the stated opinion, but sending them to jail? As much as I dislike the media's infatuation with Marxist ideology, should we send them all to jail? Opposing opinions and debate is the cornerstone of western democracy. This is thought control.

Agreed. The ONLY way to combat totalitarianism is to allow a full and flowing debate.

60 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:20:21pm

re: #57 rain of lead

I just found out that my 5 yr old will get to lead the Pledge of Alligence on cctv for her entire Elementary school on wed.

Proud Pappa :)

VERY COOL! Good for her ...

61 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:21:46pm

re: #47 rain of lead

dying to go ot here with a tidbit that will put a smile on your faces
that cool with ya'll?

OT works. Some of us could go off topic on an open thread.

62 DesertSage  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:22:29pm

re: #57 rain of lead

I just found out that my 5 yr old will get to lead the Pledge of Alligence on cctv for her entire Elementary school on wed.

Proud Pappa :)

Wow, cool! Congratulations!

63 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:23:27pm

re: #45 Dianna

Yeah, they seem to have an isolationist/social conservative thing going on lately.

64 soulpile  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:23:33pm

re: #44 JeremyR

What is a living bra? Reconstructive surgery?

The only other link I could find was joke about a bra that committed suicide.

65 LoFlyer  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:24:05pm

re: #59 MandyManners

Agreed. The ONLY way to combat totalitarianism is to allow a full and flowing debate.

Nowadays you only find that on a few blogs, like this. I would love to see a wide-open, free debate between our presidential candidates, and that is not going to happen if either of our two political parties have their say....

66 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:24:20pm

re: #57 rain of lead

I just found out that my 5 yr old will get to lead the Pledge of Alligence on cctv for her entire Elementary school on wed.

Proud Pappa :)

Break out the camera or get a copy! That will be precious.Youtube Video

target="_blank">

I have Red Skelton bookmarked reciting it.

67 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:24:34pm

OT: if anyone has the video of Kos and Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Bill Maher I'd love to see it.

68 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:24:58pm

re: #18 Mich-again

Is that like an 'overtheshoulderboulderholder?
(Boob thread!)

69 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:25:06pm

re: #1 Salem

Yes, but how does she feel about Intelligent Design?...

Shaddap!

70 rain of lead  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:25:07pm

The first time she came home and said "watch what I learned today"
and then put her hand over her heart and said the Pledge word for word without missing a beat....I almost fell out of my chair with surprise. shed a tear, I'll admit it

71 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:25:07pm

re: #48 LoFlyer

European laws regarding freedom of speech are a joke. I mean sending someone to jail for saying the holocaust never occurred is a travesty of justice. I may disagree against the stated opinion, but sending them to jail? As much as I dislike the media's infatuation with Marxist ideology, should we send them all to jail? Opposing opinions and debate is the cornerstone of western democracy. This is thought control.

Its free as long as you stick to the approved line. Part of the reason we are a nation instead of a common wealth.
Some times I find myself in the position of defending a persons right to say what I very much disagree with, and some times I find myself objecting to the constitutionality of a law I think serves a very good purpose.

72 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:25:35pm

re: #64 soulpile

What is a living bra? Reconstructive surgery?

The only other link I could find was joke about a bra that committed suicide.

Think Twister. You put your left hand here, you put your right hand there....

73 LoFlyer  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:25:50pm

Bailing out guys, got chores to do. Catch you on the flip side....

74 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:25:53pm

re: #64 soulpile

See quote #56.

75 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:26:16pm

re: #18 Mich-again

Brigitte needs an industrial duty German bra, a Stoppenzemfromfloppin.

At this point she needs giant sardine can keys, so she can roll them up.

76 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:26:19pm

re: #65 LoFlyer

Nowadays you only find that on a few blogs, like this. I would love to see a wide-open, free debate between our presidential candidates, and that is not going to happen if either of our two political parties have their say....

Pessimism such as yours?

Horsefeathers and poppycock.

Oh, and tommyrot, too.

77 EC Marm  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:26:35pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

78 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:27:01pm

re: #76 MandyManners

Pessimism such as yours?

Horsefeathers and poppycock.

Oh, and tommyrot, too.

Now you're just showing off!

/LOL

79 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:27:13pm

re: #72 Grammy Cracker

Think Twister. You put your left hand here, you put your right hand there....

Drunk Naked Twister?

80 rawmuse  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:27:24pm

When Brigit Bardot represents the voice of sanity, you know you are in big trouble.

81 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:27:59pm

re: #79 Ward Cleaver

Drunk Naked Twister?

Only in college......

/Or were you ordering a drink?

82 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:28:07pm

re: #75 Ward Cleaver

At this point she needs giant sardine can keys, so she can roll them up.

Need I go into the effects of gravity upon tesitcles?

83 pat  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:28:10pm

Muslims can say anything they want.

84 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:28:55pm

re: #76 MandyManners

Pessimism such as yours?

Horsefeathers and poppycock.

Oh, and tommyrot, too.


And, in keeping with the booby theme:
Boulderdash!

And my Red Skelton link didn;t take.

Working without a mouse is as dangerous for me as working without a net.

85 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:29:06pm

re: #78 Grammy Cracker

Now you're just showing off!

/LOL

I got some more where that came from.

Of course, I could always go with, "You're fucking nuts" but, I won't.

86 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:29:26pm

re: #77 EC Marm

Oh lord, Winter Soldier attendant.

87 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:29:39pm

re: #82 MandyManners

Need I go into the effects of gravity upon tesitcles?

Nope.

/do your balls hang high, do your balls hang low...

88 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:30:22pm

re: #77 EC Marm

Awesome. thanks!

89 soulpile  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:30:27pm

re: #72 Grammy Cracker
& re: #74 JeremyR

Ah! That's some scary Twister game. Thanks for the enlightenment.
Though, can't see how it would save your back, more like break it and then some. :)

90 soulpile  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:31:25pm

re: #87 Ward Cleaver

/can you tie them in a knot, can you tie them in a bow? Ohhhh...
(though I sing that song about ears)

91 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:31:59pm

re: #85 MandyManners

I got some more where that came from.

Of course, I could always go with, "You're fucking nuts" but, I won't.

But when it fits.....

/go for it!

92 itellu3times  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:32:57pm

Hey Charles, did you already fix the code so it loads/unloads faster?

Or is it just the much shorter thread!

93 Bloodnok  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:33:03pm

re: #76 MandyManners

Pessimism such as yours?

Horsefeathers and poppycock.

Oh, and tommyrot, too.

Babble, Burble, bickerbickerbicker, brouhaha (Elephant Talk)

94 gman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:33:19pm

re: #16 lawhawk

I'm inclined to agree with DF. Her situation sort of reminds me of the situation with Lionheart - defend the rights of people to free speech, but that the individuals themselves shouldn't necessarily be held up as paragons of virtue.

Lionheart was a special case, though. This is a person who feels that he is on a divine mission from God. He rants and raves on his website like a lunatic. I had a hell of a time believing the police we're even after him.

95 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:33:29pm

re: #84 Crimsonfisted

And, in keeping with the booby theme:
Boulderdash!

And my Red Skelton link didn;t take.

Working without a mouse is as dangerous for me as working without a net.

You must live in Colorado.

(I'm not an utter snarky bitch.)

96 Widow'smight  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:34:09pm

re: #82 MandyManners

Why yes, please do! What will happen to me?

Let's see, 49-1/2. What range am I in?

Clint Eastwood's Hangin' High or Low Rider?

97 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:34:23pm

re: #87 Ward Cleaver

Nope.

/do your balls hang high, do your balls hang low...

Can you throw them over your shoulder like a Continental soldier?

98 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:34:53pm

re: #77 EC Marm
Reported that's a gem. Watching the leftists attack Ayaan is worth it's weight in gold!

99 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:34:58pm

re: #91 Grammy Cracker

But when it fits.....

/go for it!

It just happens.

100 EC Marm  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:35:19pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

Awesome. thanks!


It looks like there are a couple parts to the video, which should show up on the right. If not, my search phrase was "Ayaan Hirsi Ali Bill Maher"

101 rawmuse  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:35:32pm

I knew a guy that had 3 testicles. He eventually opened a pawn shop.
/cymbal crash...

102 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:35:34pm

re: #64 soulpile

This is a living Bra

103 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:35:41pm

re: #95 MandyManners

You must live in Colorado.

(I'm not an utter snarky bitch.)

I would NEVER say that about you. Ever.

And I don't live in Coors country, more's the pity. Although I did enjoy the brewery tour.

104 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:35:58pm
105 rain of lead  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:36:44pm

re: #84 Crimsonfisted

And, in keeping with the booby theme:
Boulderdash!

And my Red Skelton link didn;t take.

Working without a mouse is as dangerous for me as working without a net.

OMG I have not heard that in years...
Thank you!
I am going to have her watch this so she will have a better understanding of the words she is saying

106 RedWhiteAndJew  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:37:04pm

#97 MandyManners

re: #87 Ward Cleaver

Nope.

/do your balls hang high, do your balls hang low...

Can you throw them over your shoulder like a Continental soldier?

very very ow

107 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:37:27pm

re: #102 JeremyR

This is a living Bra

Gotta be a front close for me. And the elastic criss cross! Ah, the memories.

108 DistantThunder  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:37:47pm

Anyone see the New, hot off the presses Anti-Obama Ad?

I call it Obama the Wimp ad

Site is loading a little slow - must be getting lots of traffic.

109 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:38:12pm

re: #93 Bloodnok

Babble, Burble, bickerbickerbicker, brouhaha (Elephant Talk)

G. Gordon Liddy has a new gig?

110 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:38:45pm

re: #105 rain of lead

Glad to help. I watch that every once in a while for a lift.

111 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:38:55pm

BBL.

112 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:38:59pm

re: #103 Crimsonfisted

I would NEVER say that about you. Ever.

And I don't live in Coors country, more's the pity. Although I did enjoy the brewery tour.

Did you take the short cut?

113 Bloodnok  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:39:18pm

re: #109 MandyManners

G. Gordon Liddy has a new gig?

ROFL

114 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:39:56pm

I put this in spin-off links earlier and about 60 people looked at it, but it discusses what happens in countries as the Muslim population increases - the article on Bridgette mentioned the size of France's Muslim population, and the article I put in spin-offs describes accurately, I thought, what is going on in France today relative to the percentage of its population that is Muslim. So, I hope no one minds if I simply go ahead and put the link again here:

[Link: frontpagemagazine.com...]

for those who missed it in spin-offs but might be interested in reading this.

115 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:40:12pm

re: #102 JeremyR

This is a living Bra

That is a medieval torture device!

116 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:40:46pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Killgore, I drew the same thing out of it.

Watching the video, here is a woman, who has risen above the ashes in a way that she has, really, escaped with her life, and these jack-asses are lecturing her as if she is some high school girl.

Sanctimonious jerks.

They are not fit to carry her water.

117 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:40:58pm

re: #103 Crimsonfisted

I would NEVER say that about you. Ever.

And I don't live in Coors country, more's the pity. Although I did enjoy the brewery tour.

Isn't the "You must live in [insert state name here]" assertion the sort of thing that you usually find on sports-related message boards, along with references to your mother, your ancestry, and your dental hygiene?

(I'll shut up now.)

118 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:41:11pm
119 Widow'smight  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:41:28pm

re: #101 rawmuse

Did he say he'd Phone Home and like M&M's?

120 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:41:44pm

re: #112 JeremyR

Did you take the short cut?

On the brewery tour, no, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Enjoyed the brew, the scenery, the state. I wish I could be there for the convention!

121 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:42:02pm
122 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:42:14pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Machine Girl
....wait for the Drill Bra.

Snicker. . .
/Isn't human finger sushi supposed to be boneless?

123 gymnast  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:42:37pm

Brigitte Bardot has about as much intellectual horsepower as Paris Hilton and adding both of them together it would sum up to less than that of a half dead mouse.

124 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:44:00pm
Bottom line: Brigitte Bardot is not Oriana Fallaci, and comparing them can only tarnish the reputation and the character of the sorely missed Italian defendress of the West.

Indeed- comparing a crypto-fascist to an anti-fascist demonstrates that the person making the comparison has no idea of that in which they are speaking. Simply because two people agree on the dangers of islam should in no way be enough to constitute equating them on all things- as recent threads at LGF have clearly shown.

125 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:45:20pm

re: #123 gymnast

Brigitte Bardot has about as much intellectual horsepower as Paris Hilton and adding both of them together it would sum up to less than that of a half dead mouse.

But Brigitte, back in the day, was a truly sexy goddess-woman. Paris Hilton is wealthy white trash.

126 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:45:59pm

re: #71 JeremyR

Its free as long as you stick to the approved line. Part of the reason we are a nation instead of a common wealth.
Some times I find myself in the position of defending a persons right to say what I very much disagree with, and some times I find myself objecting to the constitutionality of a law I think serves a very good purpose.

By definition, "freedom of speech" is the ability to say offensive and unpopular things.

Its amazing how many people really do NOT believe in freedom of speech when it comes right down to it.

127 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:46:13pm
128 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:46:40pm

re: #126 looking closely

By definition, "freedom of speech" is the ability to say offensive and unpopular things.

Its amazing how many people really do NOT believe in freedom of speech when it comes right down to it.

Free speech for ME, but not for THEE....

/agree or be silent.

129 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:47:11pm
130 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:47:48pm

re: #117 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Isn't the "You must live in [insert state name here]" assertion the sort of thing that you usually find on sports-related message boards, along with references to your mother, your ancestry, and your dental hygiene?

(I'll shut up now.)

No! I had a thoroughly great time in Denver! Coors is my favorite beer, although when I went on the Bud tour in St Louis, it was Christmas and they had the horses and some colts. Beautiful. Denver was a VERY nice place to visit, it somehow reminded me of Woodstock NY! Really artsy fartsy.

I cannot imagine when the DNC convention hits Denver.

131 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:48:00pm

re: #115 Grammy Cracker

That is a medieval torture device!

I stick with my original statement, a dirty old man with big hands.

132 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:48:57pm

re: #90 soulpile

/can you tie them in a knot, can you tie them in a bow? Ohhhh...
(though I sing that song about ears)

Back in high school...

133 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:48:59pm
134 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:48:59pm

re: #127 ploome hineni

My understanding is that Gawar, the Saudis largest oilfield is not nearly as productive as it used to be. It is so deep now that the product needs to be de-salinated. It didn't need the extra process before. Less easy oil; less easy Saudi money.

135 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:49:07pm

re: #125 Grammy Cracker

But Brigitte, back in the day, was a truly sexy goddess-woman. Paris Hilton is wealthy white trash.

I'm insulted.

136 gymnast  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:49:08pm

re: #121 ploome hineni

Ploome, one only has to look at Stalin's Soviet Union or Mao's China to see what happens when the government gets into the food business. Looks like Japan needs to think about opening up it's markets to ag imports. North America is the "Saudi Arabia" of food and we are not a part of an "agricultural OPEC". This could bode well for the value of the dollar as well in the not too distant future.

137 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:49:49pm

re: #129 savage_nation

Don't piss this girl off if you want to live....

/just sayin...

Is that Mandy?

/LOL

138 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:49:54pm

re: #131 JeremyR

I stick with my original statement, a dirty old man with big hands.

Bill Clinton?

139 Thanos  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:50:03pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

re: #77 EC Marm
Reported that's a gem. Watching the leftists attack Ayaan is worth it's weight in gold!

It was funny to watch the males patronize her like she was a child. Maher especially was a condescending idiot. She quite clearly held her own, and all KOS had was same old BDS, different day.

140 Widow'smight  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:50:13pm

re: #127 ploome hineni

1 Trillion Barrels of Oil in the US is what I read. Hundreds of capped wells the Government could allow to be opened.

President Bush brought the issue before congress years ago, only the Conservatives wanted to allow more domestic output.

141 rawmuse  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:50:22pm

re: #126 looking closely

The problem today is that Free Speech and Slander have become indistinguishable.

142 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:50:59pm
143 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:51:13pm
144 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:51:26pm

re: #138 Ward Cleaver

Bill Clinton?

NO, ME!

145 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:51:27pm

re: #127 ploome hineni

Time for another hand-holding session.

146 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:51:29pm

re: #135 JeremyR

I'm insulted.

So? I'm a cracker...

147 nyc redneck  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:51:37pm

i think jews should start thinking abt. getting out of europe. they will be caught in the middle of some real ugly bs.

148 DistantThunder  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:51:41pm

Why do commodities speculators have so much power and control? Who are those guys?

149 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:52:08pm

re: #142 savage_nation

I don't think Mandy is Thai...

I bet Karradine would like that vid...

Maybe not Thai, but I'll bet she kicks @ss!

150 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:53:08pm

re: #146 Grammy Cracker

So? I'm a cracker...

Arer you a white trash cracker though?

151 Bloodnok  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:53:29pm

2300 on Stein. This is getting to be like Cal Ripken. C'mon. let the backup SS start a game.

152 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:54:16pm
153 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:54:27pm

re: #147 nyc redneck

i think jews should start thinking abt. getting out of europe. they will be caught in the middle of some real ugly bs.

In the latter days, God will recall his people to Jerusalem. He will gather the flock that was scattered about.

154 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:55:04pm

re: #150 JeremyR

Arer you a white trash cracker though?

Well, white to be sure. But trash? Not so much. LOL

155 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:55:08pm
156 solomonpanting  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:55:19pm
In an ideal world, or simply a decent country (present France excepted) Brigitte Bardot should definitely not be prosecuted, no matter how stupid or pertinent her opinions.
Yet it is happening no matter what, leaving one with the sole consolation to pick a side—if any—and decide how much one is willing to compromise.

Compromising free speech is not the option I'd choose. Thank God I don't live in France, Germany, Belgium, ...

Thank God I live in the US.

157 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:55:35pm
158 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:55:44pm

re: #141 rawmuse

The problem today is that Free Speech and Slander have become indistinguishable.


That's a good way of explaining the problem.

Slander/libel is supposed to apply to individuals, not groups, and for good reason, there is a very narrow legal definition.

159 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:55:44pm
160 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:55:59pm
161 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:56:30pm

re: #151 Bloodnok

2300 on Stein. This is getting to be like Cal Ripken. C'mon. let the backup SS start a game.

When will Charles close that one?

162 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:56:40pm
163 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:57:09pm

re: #147 nyc redneck

i think jews should start thinking abt. getting out of europe. they will be caught in the middle of some real ugly bs.

To go where, exactly?

Going to Israel poses another set of "BS" so to speak, and there is no other country that has an open door policy towards Jewish immigration.

164 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:57:23pm

re: #155 ploome hineni

is that your photo in the avatar?

No, my dream gun.
The pic was popular after 9-11-01 with the title "Hijack What!"

165 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:57:25pm

re: #149 Grammy Cracker

Grammy, please just let it go.

166 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:57:40pm

re: #157 ploome hineni

no 13 yrs olds preganant?

No pregnant....ever! I had my kids 'by proxy'. Went straight to Grammy at age 30.

/wouldn't change a thing.....

167 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:58:08pm

re: #160 savage_nation

Oh, your one of those typical white girls...

That would be me! LOL

168 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:58:14pm

re: #154 Grammy Cracker

Well, white to be sure. But trash? Not so much. LOL

look, you compared me to Paris. Hurt my widdle feeeeeelings. ;-p

169 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:58:23pm

I have been chewing on the theory that we have decided to go ahead and use finally use our food supply as a hedge against OPEC.

Moreover, the reason is based not on any benevolent aspiration for a cleaner environemnt, etc.

It is a hedge against those nations setting crude oil production and prices, creating a problem for them.

We feed the world.

Is this our counter move in the oil chess game?

170 Bloodnok  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:59:00pm

re: #161 Ward Cleaver

When will Charles close that one?

I'm surprised the hamsters haven't died keeping it afloat.

171 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:59:03pm

I thought Jaguar XKEs were crumpet-catchers.


Prince William lands copter in girlfriend's garden

172 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:59:43pm
173 Bloodnok  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:59:50pm

re: #171 Ward Cleaver

I thought Jaguar XKEs were crumpet-catchers.


Prince William lands copter in girlfriend's garden

Never heard it called that.

174 JHW  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:59:54pm

Thanks for putting that vid up EC Marm, Hirsi Ali had to put up with a lot of typical Bill Maher snark. The little twerp yapping about the "decorated veterans" at the Winter Soldier gathering was a real ass too, he practically accused her of being partly responsible for the Iraq War because she was at the American Enterprise Institute, lots of yucks about neo-cons controlling the country. She did quite well for being surrounded by lefties with the time constraints. Maher is really, really hard for me to take for more than 5 seconds, really condescending and sanctimonious.

175 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 7:59:57pm
176 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:00:06pm

re: #168 JeremyR

look, you compared me to Paris. Hurt my widdle feeeeeelings. ;-p

Oh, my heavens! Didn't mean to compare YOU to HER! You seem very nice and all.....

/Grammy's vewwry, vewwry sorry!

177 rawmuse  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:00:09pm

re: #158 looking closely

That's a good way of explaining the problem.

Slander/libel is supposed to apply to individuals, not groups, and for good reason, there is a very narrow legal definition.

Precisely. So, if some one says "Bush is Hitler" the only one who can press for Slander charges is Bush, no? Yet we are awash with fantastic and untruthful statements about all manner of things, daily.

178 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:01:48pm

re: #164 JeremyR

No, my dream gun.
The pic was popular after 9-11-01 with the title "Hijack What!"

One of those was recently seized from drug traffickers in Mexico, imported to Mexico from the Dallas area.

179 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:02:11pm

re: #162 ploome hineni

we need another flood

But in Genesis the Lord promised no more floods.
A missionary teaching in China spoke of Jesus' return and how he would come back with a shout, to which a listener asked what he would shout. After much time and much pressing, the missionary replied he would shout ENOUGH.
Kinda like a parent interupting a fight among the brood, but far far worse.

180 DesertSage  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:04:38pm

Why are we being bombarded with global warming brainwashing?

First it was Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson, now it's Pelosi and Newt! What the hell is going on? I'm getting very bitter!

181 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:05:21pm

re: #172 savage_nation

Thirty-year-old grandmother? I'd say thats damn near impossible. At least in my world..

Knew one gal in the service who said her mom was sixteen when she was born, and her grandma only thirty two. Said it was the norm in her family. Ishould have asked if she and her mom were the eldest.

182 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:05:33pm

re: #173 Bloodnok

Never heard it called that.

It was the late, great, Henry N. Manney, III, of Road and Track.

183 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:05:45pm

re: #172 savage_nation

Thirty-year-old grandmother? I'd say thats damn near impossible. At least in my world..

The key phrase there was kids *by proxy*! I married four teenagers, so to speak...

184 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:06:12pm

Good Evening Lizards! It was a beautiful day in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland this today.

I can't seem to access this post link.

How are you-all this evening and what are we talking about?

185 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:06:41pm

re: #165 MandyManners

Grammy, please just let it go.

Sorry, Mandy. I meant it as a compliment.

/all done now.

186 nyc redneck  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:06:44pm

re: #114 reine.de.tout

I put this in spin-off links earlier and about 60 people looked at it, but it discusses what happens in countries as the Muslim population increases - the article on Bridgette mentioned the size of France's Muslim population, and the article I put in spin-offs describes accurately, I thought, what is going on in France today relative to the percentage of its population that is Muslim. So, I hope no one minds if I simply go ahead and put the link again here:

[Link: frontpagemagazine.com...]

for those who missed it in spin-offs but might be interested in reading this.

this is a disturbing scenario. this is exactly how islam comes in and metastasizes. this is how it has spread down thru history. we should be able to come up w/ a cure. it seems predictable.

187 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:06:44pm

re: #183 Grammy Cracker

The key phrase there was kids *by proxy*! I married four teenagers, so to speak...

That's okay. His wife has the kids. Not him.

188 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:07:08pm

re: #185 Grammy Cracker

*smoochies*

189 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:07:20pm

re: #184 ggt

Whatever you wish, but it is booby related here tonight. Go figure. On a Brigitte Bardot thread nonetheless.

190 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:07:44pm

re: #176 Grammy Cracker

Oh, my heavens! Didn't mean to compare YOU to HER! You seem very nice and all.....

/Grammy's vewwry, vewwry sorry!

Actually, I envy her figure. I wish I was that skinny again. Course, her starving has deprived her brain of precious nutrition at a critical stage in life, it never developed.

191 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:07:57pm

re: #175 ploome hineni

I was being facetious

Okay! Glad we cleared that up! LOL

192 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:08:00pm

re: #180 DesertSage

Why are we being bombarded with global warming brainwashing?

First it was Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson, now it's Pelosi and Newt! What the hell is going on? I'm getting very bitter!

Here. Cling to this, redneck.

193 solomonpanting  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:08:03pm

re: #180 DesertSage

Did you see the current cover of Time?

Just for you.

194 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:08:07pm

Hubby cancelled HBO today. Cable operator told him she did the same thing.

195 Bloodnok  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:08:15pm

re: #182 Ward Cleaver

It was the late, great, Henry N. Manney, III, of Road and Track.

Oops, forgot my naughty innuendo tag! I was kidding.

196 Sparkizzy  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:08:23pm

Gut Yom Tov!

197 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:08:37pm

re: #188 MandyManners

*smoochies*

Back attcha!

198 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:09:12pm

re: #178 Ward Cleaver

One of those was recently seized from drug traffickers in Mexico, imported to Mexico from the Dallas area.

Drugs come north, guns go south. rare actually. Most of the time they get their arms from Venezuala and Argentina. Good Soviet stuff.

199 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:09:41pm

re: #194 ggt

Hubby cancelled HBO today. Cable operator told him she did the same thing.

BOYCOTT RULES!

200 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:11:03pm

re: #190 JeremyR

Actually, I envy her figure. I wish I was that skinny again. Course, her starving has deprived her brain of precious nutrition at a critical stage in life, it never developed.

Sigh. I was never that skinny, but - thank God - my brain developed quite well. All in all, a pretty darned good deal, I'd say!

201 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:11:06pm

re: #186 nyc redneck

thanks for the linky! I forwarded that one.

202 Bloodnok  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:11:30pm

re: #194 ggt

Hubby cancelled HBO today. Cable operator told him she did the same thing.

I'm way behind. What's behind the HBO boycott?

203 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:12:00pm

re: #183 Grammy Cracker

The key phrase there was kids *by proxy*! I married four teenagers, so to speak...

Cheaper, I'm sure, then hiring you to baby sit. LOL.
My exwifes grandmother was killed in a car crash when my exMIL was seventeen. Grandpa remarried a gal about the same age as his daughter. I think she is a year older. Long story, but my exMIL was pregnant and ran away from home at the time of her moms death.

204 So?  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:12:13pm

re: #46 Dianna

Waiting for Godot?


No...it's:

Waiting for Bardot.

205 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:12:48pm
206 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:13:06pm

re: #180 DesertSage

Sage, read my comments a few posts back up.

I am serious. Are we looking at a fundamental policy change as it relates to the middle east?

I am convinced there are folks smart enough out there who take someone like Gore with a grain of factual salt, but realize in order to have a wedge against being indentured to middle eastern oil politics, see this as a means to manipulate the process?

Although Israel made the desert bloom, I suspect it would be near impossible for this to happen so far inland to generate a similar crop yield comparable to our inland.

We feed the world.

The middle east is making our lives miserable by decreasing output.

Are we making tough for them by decreasing the world food supply via domestic energy policy shifts?

207 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:13:09pm

re: #200 Grammy Cracker

Sigh. I was never that skinny, but - thank God - my brain developed quite well. All in all, a pretty darned good deal, I'd say!

When I enlisted, I was 6-3 and 138 lbs. I didn;t pack on the weight until my knees blew out during OCS.

208 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:13:12pm

re: #204 So?

No...it's:

Waiting for Bardot.

Sounds like a movie (or book) I would watch (or read).

209 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:14:05pm

re: #205 savage_nation

ok.... I still don't understand but I'll take your word for it.

She raided the retirement center, or her hubby is a cradle robber, pick your poison.

210 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:14:55pm

re: #194 ggt

Hubby cancelled HBO today. Cable operator told him she did the same thing.

Haven't watched HBO in years, what gives?

211 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:14:57pm

re: #195 Bloodnok

Oops, forgot my naughty innuendo tag! I was kidding.

Henry was one of a kind, and had a way with words. The phrase "crumpet-catcher" was in a 1961 R&T article on the E-Type.

212 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:15:11pm
213 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:15:46pm

re: #169 formercorpsman

I don't think we feed the world anymore. IIRC in 2004 (?) we imported more food stuffs than we exported for the first time in history.

214 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:16:17pm

re: #210 JeremyR

Haven't watched HBO in years, what gives?

Bill Maher's comments about Pope Benedict XVI.

215 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:16:39pm

re: #202 Bloodnok

Bill Maher calling the Pope a nazi and the head of an organized international pediphilia organization

216 Bloodnok  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:16:47pm

re: #211 Ward Cleaver

Henry was one of a kind, and had a way with words. The phrase "crumpet-catcher" was in a 1961 R&T article on the E-Type.

heh. I was looking more at the "landing his copter in his girlfriend's garden" bit.

217 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:16:47pm

re: #213 ggt

I am talking about grain production.

Staples.

The very basic element for many nations.

218 nyc redneck  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:17:14pm

re: #163 looking closely

To go where, exactly?

Going to Israel poses another set of "BS" so to speak, and there is no other country that has an open door policy towards Jewish immigration.

israel seems far more desirable than europe. and i have jewish friends whose family immigrated to canada from so. africa. also they could apply to come to the u.s. staying in europe and doing nothing is not a good option.

219 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:18:51pm

re: #209 JeremyR

She raided the retirement center, or her hubby is a cradle robber, pick your poison.

Is there a pregnant teen in the mix?

220 solomonpanting  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:18:53pm

re: #204 So?

No...it's:

Waiting for Bardot.

Well, my telephone rang it would not stop,
It's President Kennedy callin' me up.
He said, "My friend, Bob, what do we need to make the country grow?"
I said, "My friend, John, Brigitte Bardot,
Anita Ekberg,
Sophia Loren.
Country'll grow"

221 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:19:00pm

re: #213 ggt

I am not being contrary in my response, because it is only something that is clouding my thoughts, but we are starting to have a soft revolt from other nations that coincides with our diverting a portion of the food supply for domestic energy production.

It still must have some impact.

222 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:19:13pm

DRAMA!

223 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:19:17pm

re: #214 Ward Cleaver

Bill Maher's comments about Pope Benedict XVI.

Guess I'll have to subscribe so I can cancel in anger, or better yet just say screwem. Cable is a waste of time for me. I mostly avoid the telly.

224 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:19:21pm

re: #206 formercorpsman

Very interesting speculation.

225 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:19:22pm

re: #216 Bloodnok

heh. I was looking more at the "landing his copter in his girlfriend's garden" bit.

Yeah, that's pretty clever.

226 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:20:17pm

re: #219 MandyManners

Is there a pregnant teen in the mix?

No, she just got four teens in the mix. We're discussing Grammy and her earlier comments.

227 Thanos  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:20:17pm

re: #213 ggt

I don't think we feed the world anymore. IIRC in 2004 (?) we imported more food stuffs than we exported for the first time in history.

Because 1/5 of our cropland's now converted to subsidized and mandated biofuel...

228 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:20:22pm

re: #203 JeremyR

Cheaper, I'm sure, then hiring you to baby sit. LOL.
My exwifes grandmother was killed in a car crash when my exMIL was seventeen. Grandpa remarried a gal about the same age as his daughter. I think she is a year older. Long story, but my exMIL was pregnant and ran away from home at the time of her moms death.

I'm eight years older than Grandpa Cracker's oldest child. I wouldn't recommend our situation in retrospect, but it has worked out well for us - nearly 23 years and counting, so......

I'm now officially old enough to be the *bio-grammy* of my newest grandkids.

229 Bloodnok  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:20:37pm

re: #215 ggt

Bill Maher calling the Pope a nazi and the head of an organized international pediphilia organization

yikes. Canceling ASAP. Thanks! I fully intend to let them know WHY.

230 DesertSage  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:20:48pm

re: #206 formercorpsman

I'm not following you. What does it have to do with global warming?

I'm not being sarcastic...just want to know where you're coming from.

231 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:21:01pm
232 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:21:27pm

re: #227 Thanos

Thanos, do you have opinion on what I have written about?

233 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:21:27pm

re: #226 JeremyR

Ah.

234 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:22:17pm

re: #219 MandyManners

Is there a pregnant teen in the mix?

We have so many pregnant teens now who have no clue who the daddy is that fathers day will be canceled after 2010, or turned into a national day of DNA testing.

235 nyc redneck  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:22:33pm

re: #201 ggt

thanks for the linky! I forwarded that one.

that was reine.de.tout's link and i'm sure she says 'you're welcome."
(btw, looking at how predicatable the behavior was, based on the percentages, is shocking.)

236 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:22:48pm

re: #223 JeremyR

Don't have to get HBO...just imagine Bill Maher in his whiny "you know I just got the hell kicked out of me in fourth grade" way saying the same things over and over to an audience that must be paid to laugh at that crap...

either that or they all are posters at Kos.

237 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:22:58pm

re: #234 JeremyR

We have so many pregnant teens now who have no clue who the daddy is that fathers day will be canceled after 2010, or turned into a national day of DNA testing.

Will there step-fathers claim them as their own?

238 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:24:04pm

re: #228 Grammy Cracker

I'm eight years older than Grandpa Cracker's oldest child. I wouldn't recommend our situation in retrospect, but it has worked out well for us - nearly 23 years and counting, so......

I'm now officially old enough to be the *bio-grammy* of my newest grandkids.

My wife is older, but I was a grandparent first. Her oldest is five years older then mine.

239 Bloodnok  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:24:42pm

re: #236 brainwizard73

Don't have to get HBO...just imagine Bill Maher in his whiny "you know I just got the hell kicked out of me in fourth grade" way saying the same things over and over to an audience that must be paid to laugh at that crap...

either that or they all are posters at Kos.

The "if it's funny it must be right" crowd.

Trouble is, it's not funny.

240 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:24:55pm

Speaking of Grandpa Cracker.... he informs me that it's time for bed and I should turn the @%^*# computer off now.

Good night, Lizards! Be kind to one another....

/'til the morrow....

241 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:25:20pm

re: #230 DesertSage

I know that.

Perhaps this explanation.

I agree with your assessment as it relates to expecting folks on the left side of the isle supporting the "green" thing.

As of late, we are seeing folks from the other side of the isle do the same.

Could my question as to their motivation be based on oil politics, and not genuine belief in the global warming excuse? Do they go along with it, and allow the argument for global warming as a means to an end?

242 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:25:51pm
243 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:25:53pm

re: #233 MandyManners

Ah.

Sokay. still love you like a sister.
Mine all live far far away.

244 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:26:14pm
245 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:27:29pm

re: #239 Bloodnok

To quote Rober Wuhl in "Good Morning Vietnam": I know funny and he isn't.

Still, what is really interesting is how if you just read the material would won't know if it were Maher, or a slightly less well known and even more apt to get his lunch money taken (even today) lefty by the name of Al "laws only apply to little people" Franken.

What do you know from funny?

246 DesertSage  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:27:58pm

re: #241 formercorpsman

I think the Right is just starting to go along with it because of political expediency. They think it will garner more votes, which is crazy.

247 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:28:05pm

re: #237 MandyManners

Will there step-fathers claim them as their own?

The standard line among barguys is you pick up gals with kids because they put out. You don't marry gals with kids because they are their kids.
Most second marriages end over problems regarding the kids.
Cindy and I have had three fights in our six years, all were about the kids, and started BY the kids.

248 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:28:20pm

re: #240 Grammy Cracker

Goodnight, Grammy!
May you dream of anything but eggs and mushrooms!

249 Bloodnok  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:29:27pm

re: #245 brainwizard73

To quote Rober Wuhl in "Good Morning Vietnam": I know funny and he isn't.

Still, what is really interesting is how if you just read the material would won't know if it were Maher, or a slightly less well known and even more apt to get his lunch money taken (even today) lefty by the name of Al "laws only apply to little people" Franken.

What do you know from funny?

yup. Same schtick. They're interchangeable.

250 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:29:40pm

re: #243 JeremyR

Sokay. still love you like a sister.
Mine all live far far away.

You have no idea how irritated I get about false claims to parenthood. Discussing the size of a non-related female's pelvis. Making false claims about the ability of an institution to accept a pregnant juvenile.

251 HelloDare  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:29:42pm

A Spinoff link upstairs got 11 Pluses in about a half hour.
Unfortunately, according to SNOPES it never happened.

Couric To Marine Sniper: “What Do You Feel When You Shoot A Terrorist?”

His answer: “A slight recoil.”

252 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:30:11pm

re: #206 formercorpsman

This is from an old blog I used to read:

OPEC nations control 80% of the worlds known reserves of oil, and pump about 40% of its current supply. Analysts doubt that these countries have as much oil as they say they do because they dont admit to drawing down the tank, so to speak. Despite continued pumping, and despite having failed to find any significant new oil fields, their stated reserves remain relatively stable. And countries like Saudi Arabia keep investing in oil infrastructure with no obvious increase in production suggesting the Saudis might be working harder and harder to get at dwindling reserves.
-------------------------------------------

Any OPEC representative moving his lips is lying. It's all political jawboning. The problems with food supplies are complex. They are related to drought, misguided government policies, floods, urbanization of land, mega agribusinesses, lack of potash and other commodities for fertilizer, bad farming practices, etc. etc.

253 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:30:41pm

re: #250 MandyManners


It's a fucking mockery.

254 Thanos  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:31:41pm

re: #232 formercorpsman

Thanos, do you have opinion on what I have written about?

I've had those thoughts, however too many other factors are playing in to this current crisis for it to have been "calculated secret policy."

I think our part in it is really unintended consequence created by eco-lobbyists and corn lobbys along with the luddite camp. It's really the perfect storm for hunger.

The rest of the world is in it due to Kyoto treaty.

The low dollar and high energy prices of the moment are also key contributors to the problem. It takes a lot of energy to farm in a productive modern way.

Wow... I was linked to some great IAASTD reports on farm productivity with charts that showed how energy intensive farming is, but .... they've pulled like twenty PDF"s off the web. Wonder who's ox was gored by me linking?

Check the reports link here, it's all gone, used to be tons of data here:
[Link: www.agassessment.org...]

255 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:31:42pm

re: #219 MandyManners What does that mean Mandy?

256 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:31:47pm

re: #249 Bloodnok

Maher's next project is entitled "Fox News: Missunderstood cannibal-Nazis or over compensated methhead kiddie sex fiends."

He will then appologize when he realizes he makes more than anyone at Fox News.

257 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:32:25pm

re: #251 HelloDare

Seriously, is this a real quote? This is priceless.

258 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:32:40pm
259 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:32:47pm

re: #250 MandyManners
Mandy, you seem to be referring to something specific! Am I missing something?

260 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:33:18pm

re: #244 ploome hineni

where do you meet these people?

I was in the service for many years. When in hurry up and wait mode (95% of the military time) we had little to do but sit, play cards and tell stories. I can do a very good job of sticking my foot in my mouth, and getting unloaded on. I have a good memory for the stories I get told.
Now days I maintain rental property, and while working arround college kids usually engage them in conversations. I get some really whacky stuff. I have several police detectives on speed dial for a reason.

261 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:34:06pm

re: #251 HelloDare

I didn't look at the link, sorry...

Sometimes fiction is even stranger (and better) than fact.

262 HelloDare  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:35:37pm

re: #257 brainwizard73

Gah! No. According to Snopes, it is not a real quote. Try the link.

263 beachkatie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:36:30pm

11:30 my curfew on mondays.. Good night Lizzards....! {MAMA WINGER} SWEET DREAMS TO YA!

264 HelloDare  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:36:45pm

re: #261 brainwizard73

Okay, un-gah! I understand. It sure sounds believable.

265 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:36:46pm

re: #263 beachkatie
good night.

266 tblot  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:37:10pm

I feel better now

267 Future Blogger  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:38:12pm

I'm trying to think which side I should be on, the choice being between Brigitte Bardot, speaking the most important truth that can be said in France right now, or being with the dingbat leftist/Muslim alliance because somebody thinks her hubby is too far on the Neo-whatever right. This is a total no-brainer. Brigitte, Baby, I'm with you!

268 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:38:31pm

re: #250 MandyManners

You have no idea how irritated I get about false claims to parenthood. Discussing the size of a non-related female's pelvis. Making false claims about the ability of an institution to accept a pregnant juvenile.

Not exactly sure what you were getting at, Savage didn't understand Grammy-crackers comment about going directly to grandparent hood and bypassing parentage. As she noted, she is only eight years older then her oldest step kid.
That is in the same realm as my step grandmother and my moms older sister.

269 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:38:38pm

After watching Bill Maher patronize and condescend to Hirsi Ali in that video, I have to say I have a newly lower opinion of him.

270 beachkatie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:38:48pm

re: #258 savage_nation

Well, I married my wife cause I loved her. I inherited 3 kids and I'd do it all over again.

{GOODNITE SAVAGE-NATION} SWEETDREAMS TO YA!

271 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:38:55pm

re: #264 HelloDare

Any word on whether Katie the elf could get the AQI guys that are featured on the CNN tape shooting our best to talk about "what they feel?"

272 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:39:34pm

re: #246 DesertSage

Fair enough, perhaps I am just up too late, and thinking up willful delusions of grandeur.

273 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:39:44pm
274 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:39:45pm

re: #252 yenta-fada

you forgot

Corruption. Drug/Tribal Lord infighting. . . . .

275 beachkatie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:39:57pm

re: #265 conservgirl

good night.


{SWEET DREAMS TO YA}conservgirl!

276 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:40:02pm

re: #268 JeremyR
I wish she would explain herself too. I am curious what she is talking about.

277 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:40:22pm

re: #275 beachkatie
You too beachKatie!

278 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:41:20pm

re: #258 savage_nation

Well, I married my wife cause I loved her. I inherited 3 kids and I'd do it all over again.

Same for me. The guys who haunt the bars are not like us. they are looking for lust.

279 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:41:40pm

re: #274 ggt


GGT! Hello my friend! You all better from your illness? I think Real said you had the flu?

280 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:42:07pm
281 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:42:09pm

re: #278 JeremyR
Well you both sound like honorable men.

282 HelloDare  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:42:36pm

re: #271 brainwizard73

Too bad Katie didn't do an in-depth interview with Hillary about Tuzla.

283 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:42:39pm
284 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:42:41pm

re: #274 ggt

Good additions. Like the 'starving' Palestinians who blow up their own supplies from Israel, and would rather trash greenhouses left to them in Gaza than use them to grow actual food.

285 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:43:00pm

re: #268 JeremyR

Not exactly sure what you were getting at, Savage didn't understand Grammy-crackers comment about going directly to grandparent hood and bypassing parentage. As she noted, she is only eight years older then her oldest step kid.
That is in the same realm as my step grandmother and my moms older sister.

It goes way-back.

EOM

286 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:43:02pm

re: #279 conservgirl

Yes it was turrible. I'm all better now.

How you doin'?

287 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:43:05pm
288 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:43:22pm

re: #254 Thanos

I genuinely appreciate the response.

At times, when trying to rationalize different aspects of world events, I can get off down a path and develop myopic vision.

Seriously, your words are good stuff.

289 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:43:56pm

re: #285 MandyManners
So what does the pelvis thing mean that you keep on referring too, over and over?

290 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:44:42pm

re: #282 HelloDare

Katie "Senator Clintion, when you got off the plane, what did you feel?"

Clinton: "The ground."

291 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:44:44pm

re: #284 yenta-fada

Same with medical supplies. Shipments get hijacked and sold on the black market or sit ( the the case of food --rot) on container ships because the right bribes were not paid.

292 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:44:49pm

re: #286 ggt
During well GGT! Your husband is okay too I hope.

How's the weather where you are?

293 HelloDare  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:45:52pm

re: #290 brainwizard73

Katie "Senator Clintion, when you got off the plane, what did you feel?"

Clinton: "The ground."

"Superior."

294 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:45:59pm

re: #283 savage_nation

I wonder myself...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

295 profitsbeard  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:46:10pm

If Brigitte Bardot is trying to save the French's derrieres for arguably petty reasons of her own, they should still thank her for saving their derrieres, and not prosecute her... as the tide of Islam floods into somnambulistic Gaul and promises to render all of their codes and traditions and liberties and meanings moot with intolerant, misogynistic, anti-intelligence, terroristic Sharia Law.

Quibbling over the (possibly) mean-spirit and (perhaps) small-soul of the defender of your life and freedoms seems absurdly irrelevant if they manage to save your civilization with their (flawed character's) still-valiant efforts.

296 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:46:15pm

re: #286 ggt

It's good to hear you're feeling better.

297 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:47:01pm

re: #292 conservgirl

All is fine! The weather was GLORIOUS. Had to open the windows today to cool off the house. Allergy season, so we have lots of kleenex.

298 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:47:02pm

re: #252 yenta-fada

If that is the case, why did Iran work so hard to develop their own oil bourse?

Again, not contrary retort, just attempting to rationalize things I ponder.

OPEC is lying no doubt.

Did Iran seek to devalue the dollar by taking away it's trading on the oil market for their commodity?

299 pat  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:47:39pm

O'Reilly is an Obama whore.

300 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:49:28pm

re: #299 pat

O'Reilly is an Obama whore.

Huh?

301 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:49:28pm

re: #276 conservgirl

Yesterday we butted heads about the FLDS crowd in Texas. I am some what on the side of the FLDS because I believe in freedom of religion. I also have seen how teen age sex can be bad given that so many teens wind up pregnant, or with serious problems.
My step grandmother was sixteen when she married my grandpa. He was thirty five. They were together fifty years. Contrast that to my step daughter who was diagnosed with HPV at twelve, and now has cervical cancer, or a tenant I had last fall who is dead at nineteen from AIDS.
We each have our world view, shaped by what we have encountered. I've seen too much of the bad side of premarital sex. As a father, I'd much rather see my daughters with successful men rather then twenty two year old bums (sorry Savage), even if the man is much older.
I have encountered many May November marriages, and few of them that were unhappy whether it was the man or hte woman who was older. In my case, My wife is a bit older then me.

302 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:49:42pm
303 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:50:39pm

re: #300 wolfie

Yeah, heard "the memo" tonight but it seemed par for the course.

304 HelloDare  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:50:59pm

What's Bardot's position on Afghan Hounds?

305 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:51:11pm

re: #280 savage_nation

Lust is good in the proper context though....

Gets too many people into trouble. I've cleaned up a few messes results of lust. Its AOkay to lust for your wife. lusting for the neighbors can get you shot.

306 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:51:40pm

re: #301 JeremyR You are very wise JeremyR.

307 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:52:11pm
308 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:53:44pm

re: #297 ggt So you are afflicted with that up there too?! I was hoping it was a bad side effect of living in the stream of air that we get coming from Texas. My doctor told me the only way to stop having allegeries so badly was to move. But they are everywhere! Glad the weather is glorious and you are all better...

309 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:54:14pm

re: #298 formercorpsman

I think you are asking VERY important questions. Oil is an international currency by virtue of its' necessity to everyday life. One of the reasons Iran worked to get an oil bourse is that it would like to see the U.S. dollar lose its status as the world's reserve currency. I recall that at the trial of some terrorist hijacker, he yelled "The dollar is dead" Lots of things all boil down to money; Or various commodities of equal barter capacity. Drugs are also an international currency, but not traded on formal world exchanges as are other commodities.

310 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:54:19pm

re: #307 savage_nation

I cant see myself with another woman...


Are you now back with the woman you wanted to &%$(#&@^%($ not too long ago?

311 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:54:53pm
312 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:55:34pm

re: #308 conservgirl

Doesn't matter where I live. I'm allergic to everything. My allergist told me so.

313 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:56:18pm

re: #307 savage_nation

Did you get a lawyer to talk to yet? Or is it really all too difficult to deal with at the moment?

314 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:56:25pm

re: #304 HelloDare

What's Bardot's position on Afghan Hounds?

Same as Persian cats. ;)

315 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:56:31pm

re: #295 profitsbeard

If Brigitte Bardot is trying to save the French's derrieres for arguably petty reasons of her own, they should still thank her for saving their derrieres, and not prosecute her... as the tide of Islam floods into somnambulistic Gaul and promises to render all of their codes and traditions and liberties and meanings moot with intolerant, misogynistic, anti-intelligence, terroristic Sharia Law.

Quibbling over the (possibly) mean-spirit and (perhaps) small-soul of the defender of your life and freedoms seems absurdly irrelevant if they manage to save your civilization with their (flawed character's) still-valiant efforts.

I don't think that's what Frogman is doing here. Simply because she's right about islam and should not be prosecuted for it does not make her worthy of being held up as a paragon of virtue, since looking more closely at her beliefs clearly shows she is no such thing.

316 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:56:58pm

re: #294 MandyManners
Not sure why you would want to rehash this. This was obiviously a tough day and set of posts. I do not enjoy your veiled remarks about said person. Maybe we can all just move on and focus on something else in a positive manner.

317 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:57:09pm

The oil/fuel issue has to be the most complex issue I've encountered outside metaphysics.

No way I will ever get my brain around it all.

318 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:57:15pm

re: #311 savage_nation

Isn't there still another guy in the picture? Did he leave?

319 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:57:28pm

re: #312 ggt
Man me too! Bless your heart....

320 Racer X  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:57:42pm

re: #311 savage_nation

Wait a minute - you took the wife back? The one with a boyfriend who just gave her a ring?

321 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:57:57pm

re: #312 ggt

I'm allergic to rain. I can relate.

322 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:58:00pm

re: #316 conservgirl

Yes, let's leave personal issues aside.

323 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:58:02pm

re: #307 savage_nation

I cant see myself with another woman...

Since my wife fell ill, she has tried to persuade me to find a mistress. So far, nothing, although at times it is tempting. I have never cheated. Maybe I'm a fool, but I figure its safer this way.

324 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:58:10pm
325 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:58:55pm
326 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:58:55pm

re: #309 yenta-fada

Yeah.

I think if we circle the original intent of 911, modus operandi, it was not a military defeat but a verifiable wound to the economic wheel turning the economy.

It also makes me wonder, if China seeing as it holds so much of our debt, was willing to recently spill some beans on Iran as a result.

327 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:59:26pm

re: #322 ggt
Thank you, glad you agree with me GGT.

328 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:59:33pm

re: #317 ggt

At least metaphysics isn't political.

329 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 8:59:40pm

re: #311 savage_nation

Yep. I forgave her.

Glad to know that. Congratulations, and don't be afraid to get outside help in the form of a good councelor or minister.

330 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:00:25pm
331 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:00:45pm

re: #323 JeremyR
I am sorry that she is sick, Jeremy. I will pray for you.

332 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:00:55pm
333 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:00:59pm

re: #326 formercorpsman

Here's where I get my brain meltdowns. If China holds so much of our debt -- and we buy most of their products --now that the dollar is devalued -- Where does that leave China?

If we owe them $100 (on the books) and the value of the dollar is (to make it easier for me) 50/100 -- we still owe them $100 right?

334 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:01:19pm

re: #311 savage_nation

With all due respect, you're nuts.

335 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:01:32pm

re: #328 yenta-fada

oy!

336 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:01:32pm

Tooo funny : Jimmy Carter's "Habitat For Hamas"

BWAHaHaHa!

ht: Jawa Report

"Habitat for Hamas will help with Hamas families housing problem, despite the group’s stated commitment to the violent destruction of the state of Israel, because you can’t always get prerequisites adopted by other people before you even grovel and beg."

337 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:01:51pm

re: #324 savage_nation

That is a definite improvement if he is really out of the picture. Trust is fragile. Too easy to break since we are all human, hard to repair except gradually.

338 NY Nana  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:01:55pm

re: #250 MandyManners

You have no idea how irritated I get about false claims to parenthood. Discussing the size of a non-related female's pelvis. Making false claims about the ability of an institution to accept a pregnant juvenile.

I agree with you totally. It is at a point where I just scroll.

/A real drama queen and thread destroyer..

And so many different stories. So many.

339 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:02:24pm

re: #297 ggt

All is fine! The weather was GLORIOUS. Had to open the windows today to cool off the house. Allergy season, so we have lots of kleenex.

I'm back on steroids as of tonight, just took my first dose. All the burning arround here, and got poison ivy in the smoke.

340 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:02:59pm

re: #326 formercorpsman

Yeah.

I think if we circle the original intent of 911, modus operandi, it was not a military defeat but a verifiable wound to the economic wheel turning the economy.

It also makes me wonder, if China seeing as it holds so much of our debt, was willing to recently spill some beans on Iran as a result.

Do you mean to protect their investment in dollars, as well as their market here, China might covertly maneuver vs. Iran?

341 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:03:09pm

re: #339 JeremyR

How horrible! I hate being on steroids --although I do like the way they open up my sinuses!

342 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:03:15pm

re: #333 ggt

That is my assumption.

I think we made it policy, to tie other countries economically to our ship.

I'm not against it, and on certain levels it makes sense.

You hurt us, and you are only hurting yourself, etc.

343 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:03:16pm

re: #325 savage_nation
Until the next time one comes along.

344 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:03:19pm
345 Sharmuta  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:04:37pm

re: #322 ggt

Yes, let's leave personal issues aside.

Does that mean we're talking on topic? What do you think of DF's post on Bardot?

346 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:04:45pm

re: #341 ggt
really they do that? I have never taken them but I understand they can be hard on the body, if you ever have to take them for one reason or another.

347 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:05:23pm

re: #342 formercorpsman

That's why the whole Saudi their our friends/not our friends confuses me so much. It's why Osama hates us so much, too, I think.

348 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:06:06pm
349 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:06:35pm

re: #326 formercorpsman

Not counting the crazy fanatics like Ahmedinejad, the Chinese are actually wise enough to know that a stable U.S. currency is vital to the world's financial structure. Russia and China are busy buying up natural resources in other countries.

350 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:07:47pm

re: #346 conservgirl

Steroids stop all immune reaction (depending on the dosage) so any inflamatory response your body is producing subsides --i.e clogged sinuses. In low doses (like what you get for alleriges or sinus infections) they are relatively safe, with few side effects.

Still, you don't want to use them if you don't have to. They leave you open for other infections. Usually, the ENT or allergist gives them with antibiotics (to me anyway) because I am so prone to sinus infections.

When I am really sick I LOVE THEM. 20 minutes after taking one I am breathing fine.

351 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:07:58pm

Savage,
Hon, I'll say a prayer for you, but you better keep your eyes wide open. People have a way of following a pattern. I just don't want to see you on here again in a few months like you were when Charles had to put you in time out.
Be careful and get a nanny cam. She may be taking you back because the guy left and she needs you until another comes along.

352 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:09:18pm

re: #347 ggt

I thought Osama hated us because we were infidels and successful.

353 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:09:19pm

re: #349 yenta-fada

or outright taking it, like uranium in Tibet.

354 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:10:00pm

re: #352 yenta-fada

I thought he didn't like that we were "corrupting" Saudi with our money (and our troops.)

355 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:10:15pm

re: #350 ggt

Thankfully I have never had to have them for my sinuses or allergies. I am prone to bouts of MRSA and the last hospital stay about did me in, not sure I could take something that made me prone to infections:(

But they sound like they work wonders for you. Glad for it.

356 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:10:30pm

re: #331 conservgirl

I am sorry that she is sick, Jeremy. I will pray for you.

Thank you.
My wife has Fibromyalgia coupled with osteoporosis and osteoarthritis. She had the osteoporosis when we got married, the osteoarthritis developed about six months after we were married.
The Fibromyalgia onset in 2004 along with complications from the osteoporosis meds.
She had two strokes twenty months ago. There is more. Most days she barely does any thing. tonight she is resting on the couch which is now normal.

357 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:10:40pm

re: #332 savage_nation

Thank you. Everything is slowly getting back to normal.

I went through something like this, though not exactly the same. That's why I say get counseling - both together and separately. It is worth every penny.

358 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:10:43pm

re: #353 ggt

And, of course, Tibet along with the uranium.

359 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:10:54pm
360 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:11:20pm

Are there any French speakers/readers on the thread?
Reviews at Amazon (France) for Brigitte Bardot's book, Un cri dans le silence are running about even between pros and cons.
[Link: www.amazon.fr...]

361 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:11:30pm
362 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:11:46pm

re: #355 conservgirl

yeah, probably not a good thing for you!

Unless you get a spinal chord injury or something really dramatic.

363 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:12:00pm

re: #356 JeremyR
Gosh Jeremy, I am so sorry. You sound like such a good husband, I know she appreciates you so very much. I will pray for her and you.

364 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:12:25pm
365 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:12:52pm

re: #356 JeremyR

oooooooohhhhhh! How awful!

366 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:12:57pm

re: #341 ggt

How horrible! I hate being on steroids --although I do like the way they open up my sinuses!

Same here. Several years ago the poison ivy got into my sinus and chest cavities. uber bad.

367 beachkatie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:13:04pm

re: #339 JeremyR

I'm back on steroids as of tonight, just took my first dose. All the burning arround here, and got poison ivy in the smoke.

I'm up for just a minute, DO NOT TAKE FLAXSEED WITH CLARINTIN AND ADVAIR> YOU HAVE A REVERSE REACTION> MY EYES WERE WATERING AND NOISE RUNNING WHEN FOR BREAKFAST I PUT FLAXSEED IN MY YOGURT" ALL DAY LONG!

368 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:13:04pm

re: #354 ggt

It's the full-blown weird psycho-sexual immaturity, jealous, violent, megalomaniacal, infidelphobic thing. (IMHO)

369 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:13:13pm

re: #359 savage_nation

Woot! Good. So glad to hear that you are going to a counselor.

370 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:13:38pm

re: #340 wolfie

I declare right now, I have no knowledge other than my own thoughts that circle the drain otherwise known as the grey matter in my skull.

At times I wonder, with the globalization that has occurred in the aftermath of the first gulf war, are we playing chess on the grand scale?

We anticipate China and Russia trying to put a thumb in our eye, but prefer not to take us out of the picture. I think most countries realize by now, in order to really make waves, decide futures, you need trade, revenue, capital.

We allow China enough rope to hang themselves, when they vote against real sanctions on Iran for violating the terms of the agreement with the IAEA. Sure, they make energy deals between them, sell military hardware, etc.

I try wrapping my brain around the system Russia sold to Syria and Iran right before Israel went in to Syria and took out that sight. Did we know, we could allow them to transact the deal for this hardware, and literally make it a massive investment failure by subsequent action?

Perhaps I am too tired right now.

371 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:13:40pm
372 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:14:15pm

re: #371 savage_nation

:D

:)

373 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:14:30pm

re: #368 yenta-fada

yeah, you're right.

374 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:14:55pm

re: #350 ggt

Steroids stop all immune reaction (depending on the dosage) so any inflamatory response your body is producing subsides --i.e clogged sinuses. In low doses (like what you get for alleriges or sinus infections) they are relatively safe, with few side effects.

Still, you don't want to use them if you don't have to. They leave you open for other infections. Usually, the ENT or allergist gives them with antibiotics (to me anyway) because I am so prone to sinus infections.

When I am really sick I LOVE THEM. 20 minutes after taking one I am breathing fine.

My two banes are poison ivy and respiratory infections.

375 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:15:37pm

One pro review of Bardot's book, passed through a Babelfish:

"Passed the hourvaris of circumstance after the televisual confrontation Fogiel/Bardot, one will be able perhaps peacefully to analyze the contents of this "cry", between revolt and nostalgia. One will not even retain in fact not large thing of this book for him, if it is not that it is a prolongation of this famous "shock of April 21" of which one us rebat ears with constancy. By a simple and direct language, neither particularly vulgar, nor particularly engraved, the BB delivers to us some reflexions struck with the corner of the good direction the aberrations of modernity (puffs out and its wastes, on the industrial treatment of the animal life...) and some remarks more than disrespectful the few citadels of politically correct which are, in bulk, Profs, the homosexual ones, unemployed professionals or the islamist ones."
376 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:16:51pm

re: #370 formercorpsman

I think we've been playing the global chess game for A VERY LONG TIME now.

I wouldn't take the POTUS or SOS position for anything. They are playing so many moves ahead, the MSM would freak if they had a clue. Just another reason we don't want Obama or Shrillery in the top spot.

I suck at chess. I only hope the next Administration is better at it than me.

377 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:16:57pm

re: #374 JeremyR
You know Jeremy my mother is like you in that she is highly allergic to Poison Ivy and Oak.

378 Timbre  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:17:22pm
Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) could be replaced by "Mecca Time," if a group of Muslim leaders get their way.

Damn, I was just ready to go to bed, but I guess I'd better get dressed again--it's the middle of the day in the "Holy Hijaz."

379 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:17:40pm

re: #364 savage_nation

We've talked about it before. I knew she was ill when we married. God brought me to that place and time for a reason.

380 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:17:59pm

Another review of Bardot's book, this one negative, via Babelfish:

I read this book by curiosity. I was not disappointed: it is null but I was warned. A judicious alternation of chapters to give a rate/rhythm to the book: a chapter on the animals, a chapter "shock", a chapter on animals etc... The proposed ideas are dangerous and invite to intolerance. Moreover, they are only a priori and preconceived ideas. As for the chapters on the animals... mouais, to read the book of a specialist as much. I strongly disadvise this book to you, which does not bring anything good, one is bored firm by reading it and one comes out from it nauseated per such an amount of lowness and intolerance.

Bored firm.

381 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:17:59pm

I'm out guys, I'm afraid I might be starting to sound like a lunatic.

See everyone tomorrow.

382 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:18:00pm

re: #375 jaunte

of which one us rebat ears with constancy

rebat ears? Hmmmm.....

383 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:18:08pm
384 gman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:18:20pm

re: #360 jaunte

Are there any French speakers/readers on the thread?
Reviews at Amazon (France) for Brigitte Bardot's book, Un cri dans le silence are running about even between pros and cons.
[Link: www.amazon.fr...]

That must be the book that the Reuters article was referring to:

Bardot has previously said France is being invaded by sheep-slaughtering Muslims and published a book attacking gays, immigrants and the unemployed, in which she also lamented the “Islamisation of France.”

385 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:18:34pm

re: #379 JeremyR

I think you have a very godly outlook on the whole situation. That's wonderful.

386 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:19:05pm

re: #367 beachkatie

I'm up for just a minute, DO NOT TAKE FLAXSEED WITH CLARINTIN AND ADVAIR> YOU HAVE A REVERSE REACTION> MY EYES WERE WATERING AND NOISE RUNNING WHEN FOR BREAKFAST I PUT FLAXSEED IN MY YOGURT" ALL DAY LONG!

I'm on Prednisone for a while.

387 conservgirl  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:20:16pm

Good night, GGT,Savage, JeremyR (praying for you), beachkatie and all the rest. See you tomorrow.

388 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:20:31pm

re: #387 conservgirl

night girly!

389 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:20:31pm

re: #382 Catttt

I'm not sure what that means...
Old tv?

390 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:20:38pm
391 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:20:44pm

re: #370 formercorpsman

I don't know. It's hard to put the pieces together and make sense of it all. But that's why I enjoy others' speculations! Food for thought.

392 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:20:48pm

re: #373 ggt

You will probably think I'm nuts, but when my sinuses bother me, I take a good quality colloidal silver solution into an eye dropper. Then I put my head back and dribble a few drops into each nasal cavity. You have to do it more than once per day and consistently over time to make a real impact. Warning: it stings. In that case, sit up and try it a bit later on. It burns less each time. It is a major virus and bacteria killer and safe enough to swallow. I'm not a medical person. I've got a badly screwed up immune system and have tried lots of remedies.

393 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:21:10pm

re: #172 savage_nation

Thirty-year-old grandmother? I'd say thats damn near impossible. At least in my world..

I've actually met a forty something GREAT-grandmother in an emergency room once. The grandmother, mother, and baby were also all present. Grandma was about 30, maybe as old as 32. Ma was probably every bit of 15-16 with child over the age of 1.

Interestingly, Great-great-grandma was around too, but chose to stay home.

394 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:21:57pm
395 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:22:44pm

Ms. Bardot sounds just a wee tad xenophobic, no? But it shouldn't be against the law, yes?

Allergies: gluten and Pennicillyn. (MY allergies, not BB's).

396 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:23:35pm

re: #389 jaunte

I'm not sure what that means...
Old tv?

I was thinking if you get your ears batted a lot, they would be rebatted ears....

397 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:24:01pm

re: #384 gman

"sheep slaughtering Muslims" I like it! I must be islamaphobic.

398 gman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:24:32pm

re: #380 jaunte


Hey, Looks like you stumbled onto a new language

399 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:24:58pm

re: #392 yenta-fada

Wow, hard elements into the body. I don't know about that one. They aren't water soluable and can build up to toxic levels. I think I'd have a blood/urine test peroidically to check. Hey, if it works.

I've tried all kinds of stuff. Saline is my new best friend. I use the pressurized cans of it like a neti pot.

Quitting dairy helps --but I don't eat meat and it's my main source of those 10 essential amino acids. So, I stopped it.

When pollen counts are really bad or I'm doing yardwork --even when I did a tour of the Bayou --I wear a mask.

Luckily most of the OTC meds work for me --I was on most of them when I was a child and they were prescription. I'd rather suffer than give up my life (dogs, cat, horses, whatever)

400 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:25:08pm

re: #387 conservgirl

Good night, GGT,Savage, JeremyR (praying for you), beachkatie and all the rest. See you tomorrow.

Good night CG sweet dreams.

401 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:25:48pm

re: #396 Catttt

re: #398 gman

Babelfish is good for hours of strange word combinations.


"Do everyone know it more or less then why this book with shocked? Brigitte Bardot wished to write, it wanted expresses her current states of heart, her revolt, and the freedom which it incarnated so well in the Sixties and which it defends with passion. It is an alive legend, fustigates with this frank-parler which characterizes it, our company, its cowardices and its drifts; complicity in front of the injustice, the profiteurs of the system, the levelling down of our traditions and the values of France. This cry, its Cry in Silence, is a formidable call with the good direction, the freedom of expression and a return necessary towards confidence and the hope."
402 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:26:30pm

re: #371 savage_nation

I am so happy you and your wife have decided to try to work things out. I'll be praying for you!

403 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:26:32pm

I think we are still a long ways away from the Universal Translator.

404 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:26:35pm

Frank-parler avant!

405 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:27:11pm

re: #396 Catttt

rebat ear, n a condition of the moonbat ear. Characterized by burn and impact scars caused when the moonbat collides with an unprotected lightbulb it has mistaken for the moon.

406 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:27:26pm

re: #403 Catttt

I think we are still a long ways away from the Universal Translator.

Basic from Star Warts.

407 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:28:29pm
408 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:28:48pm

re: #406 JeremyR

I liked the Universal Translator but thought the Babel Fish a much more creative Sci-Fi solution.

409 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:29:04pm

Reviewer dominicarnot doesn't fear the Reaper (for other people)

Happy Marilyn, happy Natalie Wood, happy James Dean, better is worth bruler than to rust, BB was a very beautiful woman, an average actress but good... but to today have as much hatred and contempt for the others that made fear, then to speak about this book surely will make it sell, she will be able to buy croquettes for its dogs, to pay its rates has Saint Tropez but at the end of all that which forfeiture, which shame. It' S better to burn than to rust.

Needs more cowbell, dominic.

410 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:29:57pm

re: #401 jaunte

I personally think French is weird.

PLUS it doesn't want to be translated, so it won't cooperate with Babelfish.

411 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:30:29pm

re: #408 ggt

I liked the Universal Translator but thought the Babel Fish a much more creative Sci-Fi solution.

We will soon have a universal language, and I thinkits gonna ve Spanglish. The libs are determined to kill english as out national language.

412 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:31:06pm

re: #406 JeremyR

Basic from Star Warts.

Ahem - Star Trek! (Not that I'm a Trekkie.....)

413 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:31:07pm

re: #410 Catttt

I personally think French is weird.

PLUS it doesn't want to be translated, so it won't cooperate with Babelfish.

That's so French.

414 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:32:01pm

re: #399 ggt

The really good colloidal silver solutions have 50-100 particles per million. I don't know how small the particles are, but you'd have to drink gallons of the stuff to have it show up anywhere IIRC. I have used it for years periodically for infections, and then I stay away from it until I need it. My brother-in-law gets sinus infections too and he's found that it helps. Steroids are a whole lot stronger. The army sent some troops into Iraq with socks that had silver in the fabric. The reason was that they got really bad fungus infections in the desert that would not heal. The silver woven into the socks helped stop them. That's what I've read anyway. I wouldn't swear to it in a court of law.

415 solomonpanting  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:32:23pm

Michael Moore endorses Obama, chides Clinton

Lamenting the lack of a valid primary in his home state of Michigan, Moore writes that Obama's experience and voting record aren't as important as his "basic decency" and ability to inspire.

No experience and the most liberal voting record-not important.
Basic decency is a qualification for President?
Really. Where's the beef?

416 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:32:35pm

re: #410 Catttt

I personally think French is weird.

PLUS it doesn't want to be translated, so it won't cooperate with Babelfish.

All languages are weird. French has over fifty words for surrender, and Aussie has about the same number for vomit. Among these are round trip meal ticket, visable speach, technicolor yawn as well as our standard fare.

417 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:32:45pm

re: #413 jaunte

Wouldn't it be more French to expect us to all learn French and then call us names like "bitter" when we don't learn French?

418 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:32:45pm

re: #401 jaunte

Mais oui! :D

Reminds me of the story, supposedly true, of an American diplomat in Moscow in the 1930's. He got a telegram from the US which was translated into Russian and then back into English for him: YOUR SON HAS BEEN HUNG FOR JUVENILE CRIMES. Turns out the original was from a prep school saying "your son has been suspended for minor offenses."

419 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:33:26pm

re: #412 Catttt

Ahem - Star Trek! (Not that I'm a Trekkie.....)

When Hand Solo was in the bar, they used basic to talk to all the weird stuff.

420 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:34:41pm

re: #417 brainwizard73

Learning French is tough when the real speakers think you're doing violence to their language when you attempt it.

421 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:34:47pm

re: #418 wolfie

Mais oui! :D

Reminds me of the story, supposedly true, of an American diplomat in Moscow in the 1930's. He got a telegram from the US which was translated into Russian and then back into English for him: YOUR SON HAS BEEN HUNG FOR JUVENILE CRIMES. Turns out the original was from a prep school saying "your son has been suspended for minor offenses."

Love it! the ruskies had the right idea though.

422 gman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:34:56pm

re: #409 jaunte

better is worth bruler than to rust

Sounds important, whatever it means

423 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:35:48pm

re: #414 yenta-fada

I haven't read much on it, but will.

Thanks for the tip.

424 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:35:50pm

re: #418 wolfie

Frightening! I wonder how long he had to wait?

425 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:35:59pm

re: #420 jaunte

Learning French is tough when the real speakers think you're doing violence to their language when you attempt it.

Been to gay pari? They turn up their noses at our attempt to communicate no matter what the language. Luckily they all understand the Bird.

426 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:36:46pm

re: #420 jaunte

However, since effort is everything and what one means is so much more important than what one actually does, wouldn't the French give a dumb hick from flyover country a pass?

Chevy Chase in National Lampoons' notwithstanding?

427 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:36:46pm

re: #422 gman

better is worth bruler than to rust

Sounds important, whatever it means

I think he's channeling James Dean or Neil Young
"It's better to burn out, than fade away ( or rust).

428 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:37:13pm

re: #414 yenta-fada

Now I am wondering what the carrier is?

In other words, what else are you snuffing?

429 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:37:24pm

re: #394 savage_nation

Oh, I cant wrap my brain around that.... eek

It was a little bizarre, I have to admit. I had never seen anything quite like it before or since. (Though recently I met a 16 year old who just delivered her second child).

None of them were what you might call "bright", though Great-grandma was clearly the "responsible" one, had a bit of life experience, and was taking care of the others. Appearance-wise, Great-grandma could have been a youngish grandma. Grandma was basically along for the ride in what seemed like a family event. Ma was a just a clueless little girl who probably should have been playing with Barbies (as you can imagine).

The baby was in the ER because she had swallowed an NSAID pill that one of the others had carelessly dropped/left on the floor, though the kid was 100% fine and happy.

430 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:37:34pm

re: #425 JeremyR

Been to gay pari? They turn up their noses at our attempt to communicate no matter what the language. Luckily they all understand the Bird.

Only to Belgium, but it was close enough for me.

431 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:38:10pm
432 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:38:13pm

re: #426 brainwizard73

However, since effort is everything and what one means is so much more important than what one actually does, wouldn't the French give a dumb hick from flyover country a pass?

Chevy Chase in National Lampoons' notwithstanding?

I think you're thinking American!

433 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:38:42pm

re: #430 jaunte

Only to Belgium, but it was close enough for me.

I can understand that.

434 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:39:08pm

re: #407 savage_nation

Appreciated. I've had a pretty rough year with Dad dying last month so this is gonna be good.

You bet.
I remember when my dad died.......and a couple of months later my sister, who had been desperately trying for years and years, got pregnant. Nice news, anyway. But after a death in the family, something like that can be a ray of great hope.
So, rejoice....and give it all you've got!

435 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:39:08pm

re: #431 savage_nation

non-steroidal anti-inflammatory...

436 gman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:39:18pm

re: #415 solomonpanting

Michael Moore endorses Obama, chides Clinton

No experience and the most liberal voting record-not important.
Basic decency is a qualification for President?
Really. Where's the beef?

Is it just me or does anyone else think that the name of Michael Moore's last film "Sicko" is the perfect moniker for him. He actually came up with his own best nickname.

437 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:39:25pm

re: #414 yenta-fada

Quackwatch has some things to say about it.

BTW, I didn't go to this site first, it came up in the Google Search.

438 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:39:35pm

re: #423 ggt

I hope it helps. I really like the least invasive methods to help myself with health issues. I don't suppose you've heard of the Quantum Xeroid Consciousness Interface program? It's out where the buses don't run, but it helps me. Of course you haven't heard about it. Nobody I know (except the people who use it) has heard of it.

439 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:39:36pm

re: #414 yenta-fada

I don't want to scare you, but you have to be a bit careful about chronic use of colloidal silver solutions.

[Link: www.quackwatch.com...]

440 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:39:56pm

re: #419 JeremyR

When Hand Solo was in the bar, they used basic to talk to all the weird stuff.

You have a better memory than I. I saw it in the 70s - once. I do remember the catchy tune the band was playing, though. :)

441 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:40:06pm

re: #431 savage_nation

What is an NSAID pill?

Non steroidal anti inflamatory drug. Aspirin, tylenol Motrin etc.

442 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:40:07pm

re: #432 jaunte

When I can't buy American, I still think American.

443 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:40:14pm
444 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:40:51pm

Ooooooh - JINX.

445 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:40:52pm

re: #428 ggt

LOL. Don't hold back. Ask me anything.

446 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:40:58pm

re: #436 gman

Moore desperately needs exercise. He's getting way too big.

447 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:40:59pm

re: #431 savage_nation

Sorry,

Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID).

In this case, IIRC, it was a "Naprosyn", but the category includes aspirin, Tylenol, Motrin, and most of the over-the counter pain killers that people gobble by the handful.

448 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:41:09pm
449 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:41:50pm

re: #441 JeremyR

Non steroidal anti inflamatory drug. Aspirin, tylenol Motrin etc.

Wow, I recapitulated your answer word for word (only with added snark!).

450 gman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:42:05pm

re: #427 jaunte

I think he's channeling James Dean or Neil Young
"It's better to burn out, than fade away ( or rust).

Speechless and in awe. You are IT

451 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:42:23pm

re: #411 JeremyR

We will soon have a universal language, and I thinkits gonna ve Spanglish. The libs are determined to kill english as out national language.

Dumb. They decide to turn on English just as it's fast becoming the international language.
As far as I'm concerned, if we can't even agree that English is our national language, we can't agree on anything. Might as well call it a game, in terms of being a nation.

452 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:42:38pm

re: #440 Catttt

Thanks. First saw star wars in Germany. It was in German with English subtitles. A total hoot.

453 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:43:41pm

re: #442 brainwizard73

When I can't buy American, I still think American.

I think one of the key differences in American thinking vs. European thinking is that we tend to give people credit for trying, even if their efforts are not professionally polished. It makes a difference in how much 'entrepreneurial' effort is rewarded early.

454 Mich-again  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:44:14pm

re: #451 wolfie

Might as well call it a game, in terms of being a nation.

Not just yet OK?

455 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:45:05pm

re: #439 looking closely

Thank you for your concern and information. I know about quackwatch. My friends who are health practitioners have been using the stuff for years. Nobody has turned blue. They also us colloidal silver to disinfect their offices after each patient and any equipment that people touch. They are more careful about cleanliness than most places. Certainly my doctor's office is way scarier for catching things.

456 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:45:58pm

re: #439 looking closely

I don't want to scare you, but you have to be a bit careful about chronic use of colloidal silver solutions.

[Link: www.quackwatch.com...]

Silver works for fighting some problems except that it is too heavy I therefore use plastic substitutes.

457 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:46:36pm

re: #450 gman

Speechless and in awe. You are IT

He was basically telling Bardot she should have died young and left a pretty corpse ( a la James Dean, and others). Not a pleasant guy.

458 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:47:04pm

re: #445 yenta-fada

Still reading about colloidal silver. After reading this, I think I'd get to your doctor for that bloodwork --and tell him about the silver.

Ok, tell me about that Quantum thingy. Sorry, I don't want scroll back up for the whole name.

459 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:47:17pm

re: #449 looking closely

Wow, I recapitulated your answer word for word (only with added snark!).

If great minds think alike, whats our excuse? LOL ;-)

460 x-ray  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:47:20pm

re: #447 looking closely

Sorry,

Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID).

In this case, IIRC, it was a "Naprosyn", but the category includes aspirin, Tylenol, Motrin, and most of the over-the counter pain killers that people gobble by the handful.

I don't believe Tylenol is an anti inflammatory but it does have other advantages like less hard on the stomach for straight pain relief. Link

461 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:47:45pm

re: #453 jaunte

Probably depends on the circumstances. Younger people and those just into a particular scene (like me, a new hatchling) get some credit for effort. That is precisely because putting forth that effort is an admirable quality, an end in itself.

Still no matter what, the private sector expects results, at least at some point.

462 UncleSam  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:47:52pm

The reason we're paying so much for gas is that the Dhimmicrats sold out long ago to the hate-America greens and have blocked all access to oil in ANWAR and off our coasts.
Pelosi was bragging a couple of weeks ago about the House passing a bill to block access to oil off the California coast.
As far as I'm concerned, she's a traitor and an idiot.

463 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:47:59pm

re: #455 yenta-fada

It's clearned by the FDA for cleaning purposes.

464 gman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:48:09pm

re: #453 jaunte

I think one of the key differences in American thinking vs. European thinking is that we tend to give people credit for trying, even if their efforts are not professionally polished. It makes a difference in how much 'entrepreneurial' effort is rewarded early.

In Europe, if you are going to do something well, you better not look like you're trying.

The zero sum game is in effect. If you look like you're doing well, it probably came at the expense of someone else.

465 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:48:24pm

re: #460 x-ray

Tylenol is not a NSAID.

466 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:48:59pm

re: #451 wolfie

Dumb. They decide to turn on English just as it's fast becoming the international language.
As far as I'm concerned, if we can't even agree that English is our national language, we can't agree on anything. Might as well call it a game, in terms of being a nation.

Wizz on the fire, shoot the dog and put the table cloth on the flag pole if the liberals gettheir way.

467 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:49:31pm

re: #454 Mich-again

Not just yet OK?

OK......gulp.......
.......just as little, teeny, bitty bit cranky about this English thing!

468 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:49:43pm

re: #462 UncleSam

But she looks so HOT in those headscarfs when visiting Assad!

469 BlueCanuck  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:50:07pm

re: #427 jaunte

I think he's channeling James Dean or Neil Young
"It's better to burn out, than fade away ( or rust).

I think James Dean might have said "It's better to burn out than fade away." Neil Young's line was "It's better to burn out than it is to rust" from Rust Never Sleeps album with Crazy Horse.

/oh Good Morning, night shift checking in.

470 williwonka  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:50:15pm

re: #28 LoFlyer

Bridgette Bardot was one of the sex symbols before I reached puberty, and I appreciated her looks, like Jane Fonda she had more curves than brains.

Well that is true for me also, except now I am older than her?

471 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:50:17pm

re: #460 x-ray

OK, I stand corrected as well.

472 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:50:34pm

re: #461 brainwizard73

re: #464 gman

In Europe, if you are going to do something well, you better not look like you're trying.

It may be a hangover of the class system; the nobility had plenty of time to train for everything, and appear effortlessly superior in public. Stumbling around as a beginner is plebeian.

473 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:51:39pm

re: #472 jaunte

Probably goes back to the European notion of a public self and a private self. Public self better not look, well, you nailed it, like a prole.

474 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:51:56pm

re: #462 UncleSam

The reason we're paying so much for gas is that the Dhimmicrats sold out long ago to the hate-America greens and have blocked all access to oil in ANWAR and off our coasts.
Pelosi Nancy P Lousy was bragging a couple of weeks ago about the House passing a bill to block access to oil off the California coast.
As far as I'm concerned, she's a traitor and an idiot.

Fixed it for ya.

475 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:52:54pm

re: #473 brainwizard73

Here we've flipped it around and the potential leader has to pretend to go bowling or do shots with the locals.

476 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:54:20pm

re: #452 JeremyR

Thanks. First saw star wars in Germany. It was in German with English subtitles. A total hoot.

I remember seeing Woman in the Dunes (strange Japanese flick) when I was in junior high when I went with my folks to the Aspen Institute for a week, with a group of high school students that got to sit in on the discussions. They had a series of foreign films (I also got to hear some interesting speakers). It's a strange movie, about a man who is trapped in a hole in the desert with a woman (hence, woman in the dunes, natch) and forced to dig sand for illegal use in housing projects - I think.

At one point the guy gets really angry at the woman and yells a whole string of Japanese at the woman. The subtitle - No. Or maybe it was yes. That got a laugh. Actually, a lot of the movie got snickers and rolled eyes.

477 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:54:45pm

Has everyone seen Mark Steyn's Obama line today?

Mrs Clinton's advanced from hurling china to obliterating Iran:
“I want the Iranians to know that if I’m the president we will attack Iran,” Clinton said. “In the next ten years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them.”
The point presumably is not that anyone in the Democratic base wants to totally obliterate Iran (whose leadership has, after all, endorsed Obama) but that your willingness to pretend you want to reassures the base that, come the general, you're not going to be this season's neo-McGovernik fall-guy getting Swiftboated as an arugulan wimp. The Dem contest is a triumph of post-modern politics.

478 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:55:00pm
479 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:55:07pm

re: #455 yenta-fada

Thank you for your concern and information. I know about quackwatch. My friends who are health practitioners have been using the stuff for years. Nobody has turned blue. They also us colloidal silver to disinfect their offices after each patient and any equipment that people touch. They are more careful about cleanliness than most places. Certainly my doctor's office is way scarier for catching things.


This isn't about cleanliness. Using something as a disinfectant isn't the same as ingesting it. You wouldn't drink Lysol or Chlorox bleach, would you?

Usually you don't turn "blue" like the dramatic image I posted, but rather a shade of gray,.

I actually have seen someone that this has happened to. I don't remember the details, but they were using one of these colloidal silver products for many years and their skin was a sort of an ashen grey.

The silver actually binds to the collagen fibers of the skin, like a silver stain. I don't think there is any way to get it out again once that happens.

480 x-ray  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:55:36pm

re: #471 JeremyR

OK, I stand corrected as well.

I wasn't trying to be picayune just trying to add info.

481 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:55:55pm

re: #463 ggt

Here is some basic info (through google) on the QXCI. I warned you it was completely off the map. My friends own one and use it for their patients. It takes a long time to learn how to use it. I'm not really recommending it because everyone will say I'm totally insane and gullible. Be that as it may, it helps me. It's a short term aid for a variety of medical conditions. It IS NOT A CURE for anything and makes no claim to be. It is completely non-invasive with no side effects. I understand anybody's reluctance to actually use colloidal silver, which is why I issue the caveat.

482 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:56:06pm

re: #475 jaunte

I don't know.

A potential leader can still toss back SoCo and convert a 7-10 split with some measure of competance. I bet Sarkozy and Merkel did some stuff we would consider a bit common when they were running.

Key is, if you are going to bowl, do better than a 7 year old, and if you are going to pound shots, get a real American whiskey, or Irish whiskey.

483 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:56:13pm

re: #478 savage_nation

That's beautiful. Marie is my wife's middle name.

484 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:57:14pm

I think Nancy Pelosi dresses well. (Heh. That was a really nice scarf she used as a hijab, BTW) But would someone tell her to cut the plastic surgery.....or get another surgeon? She can barely move her face.
Okay. That was catty.

485 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:57:36pm
486 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:57:46pm

re: #478 savage_nation

As someone that is still fighting with spouse four years later on my kids' names...

It is beautiful and she will fit her name perfectly.

487 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:58:09pm

re: #482 brainwizard73

True, broad brush. I think the bowling test was a dismal flop. Hilary's drinking photo-op was more along the Dukakis 'whats-wrong-with-this-picture' line.

488 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:58:11pm

re: #460 x-ray

I don't believe Tylenol is an anti inflammatory but it does have other advantages like less hard on the stomach for straight pain relief.


You're right, that Tyenol isn't really the same as ibuprofen and the others, though often it is lumped into that category (mistakenly, I suppose, as by the likes of me).

489 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:58:26pm
490 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:58:53pm

re: #484 wolfie

No, here is catty:

Nancy is a winter, what is she doing wearing that terra-cotta hajib?

491 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:59:07pm

Time for bed. Good night all. Hopefully tonight I can SLEEP.

492 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:59:18pm

re: #478 savage_nation

How does Faith Marie sound as a name?

Just tossing it out there to see what everyone thinks....

I can't believe you said that.
The baby my sister had after my dad died.....Mary Faith!
NOT kidding! (Twilight Zone music, please!)

493 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:59:28pm
494 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:59:47pm
495 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 9:59:59pm

re: #487 jaunte

I was told that HRC did Crown Royal...if so, where is the union, white, middle class working crowd's outrage?

496 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:00:02pm

Rep. Pelosi would probably not like my living room. I have a large print of George Grall's photograph of a chemical plant at night over my sofa. He mostly does critters, but I really like the chemical plant pic a lot.

497 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:00:38pm

Way off topic, but has anyone here fired one of these Beretta CX4 carbines?
[Link: www.cx4storm.com...]

498 JeremyR  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:00:46pm

re: #484 wolfie

I think Nancy Pelosi Lousy dresses well. (Heh. That was a really nice scarf she used as a hijab, BTW) But would someone tell her to cut the plastic surgery.....or get another surgeon? She can barely move her face.
Okay. That was catty.

We are talking about the screecher of the house aren't we?

499 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:01:18pm

re: #490 brainwizard73

No, here is catty:

Nancy is a winter, what is she doing wearing that terra-cotta hajib?

LOL !

Goodnight, Jeremy! Sleep tight!

500 gman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:01:26pm

re: #472 jaunte

re: #464 gman

It may be a hangover of the class system; the nobility had plenty of time to train for everything, and appear effortlessly superior in public. Stumbling around as a beginner is plebeian.

That probably goes a long way in explaining why they let us get our hands dirty trying to solve the world's problems while they observe from a distance and whine about the primitive and barbaric methods that we deal with said problems.

501 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:01:38pm

re: #481 yenta-fada

Hey, if traditional medicine hasn't worked for you --try anything.

I often wonder if the effectiveness of the "way out" alternative stuff
is placebo effect or self-fufilling prophecy.

I do know that some conditions are not adequately treatable by conventional medicine. Luckily, many of the "alternative" therapies are now becoming accepted.

I think I'll leave that little machine alone, tho.

502 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:02:15pm

re: #478 savage_nation

How does Faith Marie sound as a name?

Just tossing it out there to see what everyone thinks....

It's pretty.

In my family, everyone gets named after deceased relatives and saints.

503 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:02:26pm

re: #493 savage_nation

Any would be great. She will grow into it.

As parent of 3 under 4 y.o. (no twins) just don't go with anything trendy...and none of those are. All classics in one way or another.

504 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:03:13pm

re: #498 JeremyR

My hubby and his friends always wonder if her boobs are real.

:O

505 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:03:33pm

re: #495 brainwizard73

Crown Royal is distilled in Gimli, Manitoba, so maybe she's trying for a little bit of Lord of the Rings voters.

506 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:03:33pm

re: #479 looking closely

I know you can't drink bleach. Geez. In my case they wanted to give me interferon. I'm much too ill for anything that strong. Again, I appreciate your caution and urge it on others. Also, I was discussing the use of a few drops in the nose to help clear sinus infections. No, I wouldn't recommend using bleach that way either. Lizards are smart enough to fact check anything they read online. I was relating my own experience. I'm my own lab rat. So far it is helping. (five years)
I really do appreciate what you are saying though.

507 x-ray  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:04:02pm

When picking names for my children I mostly just argued against ones I thought might traumatize them. Trying to remember how what are actually pretty names (2 girls) were twisted by their future peers (rhyming etc.)

508 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:04:10pm
509 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:04:19pm

re: #506 yenta-fada

MS?

510 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:04:24pm

re: #490 brainwizard73

No, here is catty:

Nancy is a winter, what is she doing wearing that terra-cotta hajib?

I swear that is exactly what I thought when I saw the scarf she chose. Someone must have sprung it on her, though - she is usually very careful with her colors (and the pattern was awful too). Meow.

511 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:05:12pm
512 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:05:28pm

re: #504 ggt

My hubby and his friends always wonder if her boobs are real.

:O


Nancy Pelosi's boobs?

513 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:05:45pm

re: #506 yenta-fada

I did get on some message boards and the consensus seems to be that occasional use is OK (of colloidal silver). It's just daily, long-term use that is the problem.

Of course, one always has to watch the liver. A heavy drinker might not want to add silver to his daily diet.

514 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:06:04pm

re: #512 Catttt

yeah.

515 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:06:18pm

re: #505 jaunte

Now it all makes sense...John Murtha does look like an Orc Captian when angry.

516 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:06:20pm

re: #511 savage_nation

If she has a boy, she wants to name him Holden. I'm not so sure about that one, to be honest.

Did she read Catcher in the Rye?

517 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:06:28pm

re: #511 savage_nation

That one might lead to some wordplay.

518 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:06:47pm

re: #514 ggt

yeah.

Nancy Pelosi has boobs? How can you tell?

519 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:07:02pm

re: #501 ggt

Hey, if traditional medicine hasn't worked for you --try anything.


There I disagree.
You can try *some* things, but not "anything".

Some things might help, might not, but probably aren't going to hurt.

But other things that might help and might not, *could* have a reasonable likelihood of hurting.

Laetrile, for example. . .maybe not so good.

520 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:07:04pm

re: #504 ggt

My hubby and his friends always wonder if her boobs are real.

:O

Well, she is a boob. Isn't that enough?!

521 neocon hippie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:07:06pm

re: #108 DistantThunder

Anyone see the New, hot off the presses Anti-Obama Ad?

I call it Obama the Wimp ad

Site is loading a little slow - must be getting lots of traffic.

The written wording on the ad says that Obama is opposed to something called the "Dealth Penalty"

Whoops...

Might have a little problem with credibility there.

522 UncleSam  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:07:40pm

re: #478 savage_nation

How does Faith Marie sound as a name?

Just tossing it out there to see what everyone thinks....

As a name for what?
A child?

I would suggest Squibbleydoo Humbucket, but, of course, that's just my personal preference.

523 x-ray  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:07:58pm

re: #504 ggt

My hubby and his friends always wonder if her boobs are real.

:O

Look at her face there is no way there real.

524 jaunte  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:07:59pm

I have to go sleep now. See you all later!

525 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:08:34pm
526 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:08:56pm
527 BlueCanuck  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:09:18pm

re: #505 jaunte

Oooh, Gimli. Every time I hear that name I remember the "Gimli Glider".

/a case of narrowly disaster avoided.

528 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:09:18pm

re: #501 ggt

Darned little machine costs about as much as a car. I don't have one.

529 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:09:22pm

re: #510 Catttt

She could have changed the coloring on her face to tone it down...but oh no...

And if someone sprung it on her we now have empirical proof that the Democrats are unable to deal with the 3 a.m. phone call:

Voice over: It is 3 a.m. A phone is ringing in the White House. A crisis has erupted somewhere in the world. Who will be there to answer for America?

Picture of Pelosi answering Phone wearing perfectly color cordinated hajib: I am ready for anything...

530 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:09:26pm

One thing I really hate - people assuming boobs are fake just because they happen to be large. Some people actually have big real boobs.

531 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:09:31pm

re: #524 jaunte

G'nite, jaunte! Pleasant dreams......................hopefully not of Pelosi's boobs.

532 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:09:41pm

re: #520 wolfie

I don't get it either.

533 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:09:59pm
534 gman  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:10:31pm

G'night Jaunte.

535 x-ray  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:10:32pm

re: #523 x-ray

PIMF there vs they're

536 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:11:07pm

re: #519 looking closely

Obviously, do your own research.

537 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:11:41pm

re: #509 ggt

Auto-immune liver disease. Medically called "cryptogenic cirrhosis of the liver.

538 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:11:41pm

re: #518 Catttt

Potentially scarring image deleted from memory.

539 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:12:57pm

re: #530 Catttt

Sure, as long as the woman in question (still women only...sorry Oprah) isn't 79 pounds and look like she is wearing a personal floatation device.

540 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:13:19pm

re: #528 yenta-fada

I can understand not wanting to go on interferon. It's some scarry $hit. If you do decide to in the future --consider starting an anti-depressant with it. It can do wierd things to the mind.

541 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:13:41pm

re: #533 savage_nation

Maybe she could use Holden as a middle name....and he could use it when he's grown up, if he wanted to. Then pick a simpler first name.....one kids can't ruin. (Is there such a name?)

542 rawmuse  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:13:47pm

re: #530 Catttt

One thing I really hate - people assuming boobs are fake just because they happen to be large. Some people actually have big real boobs.

Do you have a license for those boobs?

543 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:13:47pm

re: #525 savage_nation

I'm not sure. I asked her why she wants to name her baby after a car.

The Mad Max Interceptor and Pursuit vehicles were Holden Fords.

Lol. I'll bet she gave you a blank look on that one. :)

I automatically thought of Holden Caulfield.

544 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:14:58pm

re: #537 yenta-fada

oooooh, auto-immune runs rampant in my hubby's family --MS, Lupus etc. Is some "nasty, nasty $hit". Been on some steroids in your life?

545 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:15:22pm

re: #543 Catttt

I thought of William Holden.

546 x-ray  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:16:35pm

re: #543 Catttt

Lol. I'll bet she gave you a blank look on that one. :)

I automatically thought of Holden Caulfield.

I thought of William Holden

547 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:16:59pm
548 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:18:07pm

I like simple names like JOE and BRUCE and JACK.

Maybe I've owned too many dogs.

549 brainwizard73  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:18:17pm

Off to dream of William Holden in Stalag 17 catching Nancy Pelosi topless and saying

"Ach so!"

550 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:18:46pm

re: #540 ggt

Thanks for your tip! No way I'm going to be the victim of a "cure" though. I don't even take vitamins anymore. Too many unknowns as far as interactions. First, do no harm.

551 UncleSam  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:19:00pm

re: #526 savage_nation

A kid, indeed.

Faith Marie makes me think of Marianne Faithful, who had some really good songs.
On the other hand, she was a heroin addict for quite a while, if I recall correctly.

552 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:19:07pm
553 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:19:56pm
554 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:19:56pm

re: #547 savage_nation

He was a bull frog.
But then again, he was a good friend of mine.

555 NY Nana  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:20:24pm

re: #488 looking closely

Watch it with Tylenol/acetaminophen, Paracetamol, etc. They are toxic to the kidneys, among other things. Try to limit intake. Paracetamol is sold in the UK, and to get a bottle of 100, you must ask the trained pharmacy assistant behind the counter. Otherwise, there are packets of 16 to buy. It has been used to commit suicide, as the antidote often is not given in time.

It can also impact on the liver.

556 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:20:27pm

re: #544 ggt

No steroids ever. Allergies since infancy though. As I said, I can relate.

557 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:21:06pm

re: #549 brainwizard73

Yeooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
G'nite! Sweet interesting dreams!

558 x-ray  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:21:40pm

re: #548 ggt

I like simple names like JOE and BRUCE and JACK.

Maybe I've owned too many dogs.

My family was all Jim, Bob, Bill, Tom, John Had a brother in-law tell me we all had gas station names (the ones that fit on the name tags on gas station shirt)

559 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:22:14pm

I thought of William Holden too, but I seriously doubt the mother-to-be did.

560 BlueCanuck  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:22:43pm

re: #554 wolfie

He was a bull frog.
But then again, he was a good friend of mine.

If you're going to quote it, link it. :)

561 UncleSam  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:23:03pm

re: #553 savage_nation

Marianne Faithful is my wifes all time favorite singer.

"Broken English" is one of my Top 10 favorite songs.
Totally rocks...

562 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:23:13pm

My family all have names that you can instantly tell we're Catholic.

563 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:23:47pm

re: #550 yenta-fada

I know a couple of MS patients who have taken Beta-Interferon for years with no real side-effects. They only prescribe that now for the worst patients.

Like I said, if traditional medicine doesn't work, try anything (within reason).

Have you done any of the hydrogen-peroxide treatments? I've used some of them with great results. I don't know about many of them tho.

564 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:25:39pm

re: #562 Catttt

Peter, Paul, Mary and Marie?

Catherine, Anne, Margaret, Elizabeth, Mark, Luke and John?

565 x-ray  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:26:05pm

re: #552 savage_nation

Thanks that was a good link:)

566 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:26:14pm

re: #563 ggt

No hydrogen peroxide at this point. I've heard of it.

/So many cures, so few diseases.

567 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:27:18pm

Donna, MaDonna, Alice, Andrew and Matthew?

Just naming my family. . . .

Forgot, Robert.

568 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:27:30pm
569 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:28:17pm

re: #566 yenta-fada

I can tell you it has done wonders for my dogs' breath. 5 drops per gallon for many, many weeks. Still have to have dental treatments but, very little tartar and NO DOGGY BREATH.

570 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:29:33pm

re: #530 Catttt

One thing I really hate - people assuming boobs are fake just because they happen to be large. Some people actually have big real boobs.

My last GF had 34 DDs with an inverted nipple on the left. Wanted to get a reduction. I talked her out of it. Lordy how I loved to get the left to stand to attention.

571 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:29:36pm

re: #560 BlueCanuck

If you're going to quote it, link it. :)

THANK YOU !

572 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:30:00pm

re: #568 savage_nation

She's 17 and she never heard of Bill Holden. I doubt she ever read Catcher in the Rye either.

It's just as well. :) My mom had it in the high school library. Parents would complain, and she'd take it off the shelf, satisfy them, then put it back on a week later. She was clever.

573 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:31:03pm

re: #569 ggt

I don't HAVE doggy breath.

574 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:31:19pm

re: #570 Bobibutu

TOO MUCH INFORMATION ! :)

575 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:31:28pm

re: #570 Bobibutu

TMI!

576 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:31:35pm
577 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:31:46pm

re: #573 yenta-fada

LOL

578 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:32:12pm

re: #576 savage_nation

RETURN OF THE NATIVE ---achhhhhhh!

579 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:32:18pm

re: #570 Bobibutu

My last GF had 34 DDs with an inverted nipple on the left. Wanted to get a reduction. I talked her out of it. Lordy how I loved to get the left to stand to attention.

"It's better to be looked over than overlooked." ~Mae West (My father quoted that to me a lot when I was a teen.)

580 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:32:36pm

re: #506 yenta-fada

I know you can't drink bleach. Geez.


And I know you know that.

You said the stuff was being used to disinfect the counters and such. . .I'm just saying that isn't any kind of reason to think its safe.

No, a little bit of silver nosedrops once in a while probably won't hurt you. Remember I said be careful about chronic use.

Auto-immune liver disease. Medically called "cryptogenic cirrhosis of the liver.


Not to split hairs, but by definition auto-immune cirrhosis isn't "cryptogenic". Cryptogenic means the cause is unknown. While cryptogenic liver disease is often auto-immune in etiology, if the disease is known to be auto-immune, its not "cryptogenic".

In any case, I'm sorry to hear that you have this. I know what that disease entails.

Since you mentioned it, that would make me more leery about using silver compounds. If your liver isn't working well, silver and other metal compounds might be more toxic and/or difficult to excrete.


re: #536 ggt

Obviously, do your own research.


If you mean checking out "alternative" therapies on the internet before trying them, I suppose that's a good idea.

If by "research" you mean trying to determine whether or not these things may be beneficial by testing them on human (or literal) guinea pigs, I'd say most people aren't qualified or able to do that, and that you probably shouldn't use yourself as such a guinea pig.


.

581 DownRightMeanAmerican  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:32:37pm

When I just hit the main page the browser says :

Militarized theocratic sheep.

Man that is funny!

582 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:32:53pm

re: #576 savage_nation

What - no Mill on the Floss? :)

583 ggt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:33:48pm

I gotta sleep folks!

Nighty Night!

584 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:33:53pm

re: #576 savage_nation

re: #578 ggt

Silas Marner, NO !
Return of the Native, SI !

585 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:34:15pm
586 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:34:57pm
587 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:35:18pm

re: #581 DownRightMeanAmerican

I was actually here when a rather nice young troll said "You people just halve no clue." The only revolving title I actually witnessed.

588 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:35:19pm

re: #583 ggt

Night night!
(Please don't dream about William Holden and Nancy Pelosi!)

589 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:36:17pm

re: #579 Catttt

"It's better to be looked over than overlooked." ~Mae West (My father quoted that to me a lot when I was a teen.)

A wise father. Personally I think a lady would be well served by pride in what she has been endowed with. Choices from that point on are hers.

590 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:36:18pm

re: #588 wolfie

Night night!
(Please don't dream about William Holden and Nancy Pelosi!)

William Holden, yes. Rep. Pelosi - uh - no, please.

591 BlueCanuck  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:36:47pm

re: #587 Catttt

I was actually here when a rather nice young troll said "You people just halve no clue." The only revolving title I actually witnessed.

I actually caught IrishRose with the "we're overloading Ajax" comment that's now a revolving title.

592 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:38:47pm
593 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:38:50pm

re: #580 looking closely

Three doctors and two labels. Only one called it auto-immune. I just call it severe chronic fatigue. You are correct about the silver, of course. It's a quality of life thingie, and I make my choices according to how I function with different remedies. I appreciate your comments.

594 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:39:04pm

re: #575 ggt

TMI!

Sorry - I thot this had regressed into another boob thread and couldn't resist.

595 Catttt  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:39:10pm

My cats are giving me the evil eye, which means they want me to go to bed.

The Siamese, in particular, has "dirty look" down to a science.

Goodnight, all.

596 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:39:54pm

re: #583 ggt

Night! btw, the classic comic of Silas Marner was outstanding.

597 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:40:17pm
598 wolfie  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:40:39pm

re: #595 Catttt

My cats are giving me the evil eye, which means they want me to go to bed.

The Siamese, in particular, has "dirty look" down to a science.

Goodnight, all.

LOL...That's cats for ya! Goodnight !

599 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:42:14pm

re: #555 NY Nana

Watch it with Tylenol/acetaminophen, Paracetamol, etc. They are toxic to the kidneys, among other things. Try to limit intake. Paracetamol is sold in the UK, and to get a bottle of 100, you must ask the trained pharmacy assistant behind the counter. Otherwise, there are packets of 16 to buy. It has been used to commit suicide, as the antidote often is not given in time.

It can also impact on the liver.

Unfortunately, I know a lot about this particular problem.

The reason paracetamol/Tylenol is limited in volume sold in England and elsewhere (but not the USA) is because its easily overdosed for suicide purposes. (A small amount of alcohol with it greatly increases the toxicity).

The death is particularly horrible too, from massive hepatic necrosis, and its usually young women who do it.

The "antidote" N-acetyl cysteine ("mucomyst") works great. . .in medical textbooks. In the real world, its effectively useless.

600 yenta-fada  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:42:21pm

re: #597 savage_nation

LOL

601 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:42:26pm
602 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:42:34pm

re: #595 Catttt

My cats are giving me the evil eye, which means they want me to go to bed.

The Siamese, in particular, has "dirty look" down to a science.

Goodnight, all.

Cats rule - that's why I leave that spectrum to my sister - I do dogs.

603 DownRightMeanAmerican  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:43:20pm

re: #587 Catttt

I was actually here when a rather nice young troll said "You people just halve no clue." The only revolving title I actually witnessed.

It that what they mean when they say rotating title?

604 BlueCanuck  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:45:07pm

re: #601 savage_nation

Ouch, I heard the area east of the Rockies was getting hammered. I know Calgary and those parts had a lot of snow. Meanwhile here in T.O. we are getting warmer than normal temperatures.

/we were due for some good weather.

605 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:49:02pm

BB hit the screens about the time just after I hit puberty. Uh - I still feel tingly when she is mentioned.

606 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:50:44pm

re: #593 yenta-fada

Three doctors and two labels. Only one called it auto-immune. I just call it severe chronic fatigue. You are correct about the silver, of course. It's a quality of life thingie, and I make my choices according to how I function with different remedies. I appreciate your comments.


I see.

The dx of autoimmune hepatitis requires a good hepatologist, as well as a competent liver pathologist, and to get them together you'd likely have to be seen at the appropriate tertiary care center (with glass slides in hand).

Beth Israel Deaconess medical center in Boston has one of the best (if not the best) liver centers on the East Coast, if that's any help. If I had a liver problem, I'd go there.

Then again, there is only so much that can be done for this. . .as you know.

607 looking closely  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:51:14pm

And on that somber note, I'm outta here.
GN all.

608 x-ray  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 10:56:17pm

Nite all
The cats are probably giving me the evil eye, but since I don't let them in the house (cause I kinda like them) I don't really know.

609 bosforus  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:15:36pm

So the other day some guy pulled over in his car to talk to me and asked me what I was studying (college town, and I just graduated). I told him Civil Engineering and he proceed to offer me 12 $/hr to do his son's "levers and pulley" science project due this Friday. I wanted to just walk away without responding to the dirtball but I'm too polite and told him I was too busy and to try the school of engineering on campus. Good luck with that though, it's finals week.

610 LeePro  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:19:36pm

re: #609 bosforus

clever...

double-posting to try to wake folks up...

heh

611 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:21:37pm

re: #609 bosforus

Yeah - all we need now is a bunch of BS engineers in our future.

612 LeePro  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:22:23pm

re: #611 Bobibutu

Yeah - all we need now is a bunch of BS engineers in our future.

...who didn't do their own homework!

613 bosforus  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:27:42pm

re: #610 LeePro

clever...

double-posting to try to wake folks up...

heh

ha ha, realized i wasn't posting in the most current thread. felt kind of stupid copying and pasting it but...it's 12:30, gimme a break. ;)

614 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:30:19pm

re: #612 LeePro

...who didn't do their own homework!

This is a serious problem - The wanks get sorted out after how many deaths? How many get to do the math on bridges and buildings let alone other infrastructure - Brrrrr gets me and many others very pissed. I blame the parents for low moral values. But then WhoTF am I.

615 bosforus  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:30:57pm

re: #611 Bobibutu

Yeah - all we need now is a bunch of BS engineers in our future.

That's what we get from a bunch of BS parents that don't have a week (at least, depending on when the assignment was given) to help their kid.

616 LeePro  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:32:12pm

re: #613 bosforus

They need incentive!



/double-posted

617 bosforus  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:33:36pm

re: #614 Bobibutu

This is a serious problem - The wanks get sorted out after how many deaths? How many get to do the math on bridges and buildings let alone other infrastructure - Brrrrr gets me and many others very pissed. I blame the parents for low moral values. But then WhoTF am I.

Exactly. Engineers need to have the integrity and humility to be able to say things like that's not in my training or help me with this problem before it endangers someone's life. A kid won't develop that if their parents do everything for them or worse, if their parent hires someone to do that for them.

618 bosforus  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:34:51pm

re: #616 LeePro

They need incentive!



/double-posted

Yeah, you want to be able to feed yourself when you're older? Then learn to do something right.

619 bosforus  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:36:30pm

I wonder what the other 100 people are doing logged in here at LGF. Hmmmm...

620 LeePro  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:38:03pm

re: #618 bosforus

Yeah, you want to be able to feed yourself when you're older? Then learn to do something right.

No, no, no...

I'm talking flat-out bribery. Gotta do something to somehow awaken 106 logged-in Lizards out of an apparent mass-lethargy.

621 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:38:52pm

re: #615 bosforus

RGR

622 LeePro  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:39:12pm

oops! 15 just logged out!

623 NY Nana  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:39:53pm

re: #599 looking closely

Unfortunately, I know a lot about this particular problem.

The reason paracetamol/Tylenol is limited in volume sold in England and elsewhere (but not the USA) is because its easily overdosed for suicide purposes. (A small amount of alcohol with it greatly increases the toxicity).

The death is particularly horrible too, from massive hepatic necrosis, and its usually young women who do it.

The "antidote" N-acetyl cysteine ("mucomyst") works great. . .in medical textbooks. In the real world, its effectively useless.

You are very knowledgeable on this subject. Professional knowledge? I only wish that the FDA would mandate the same system here.

Spot on re who tops themselves, and not only in The UK..in the Orient it is also used by young women. The warnings on OTC meds here is less than impressive. A friend in London who we stay with when we go worked as an assistant in a local pharmacy. She had to take courses, and they are tested annually, IIRC, to make sure their knowledge is current. She and her husband will be here next week for a visit!

I have already used a lifetime allowance of Tylenol and paracetamol. I have severe osteo and other joint, cartilage, tendon and ligament issues that have made me legally handicapped. I have untoward effects from the RX meds, along with allergies. My pain threshold has actually improved a lot, and I very rarely take the meds.

I hope that no one you know was affected adversely by acetaminophen.

I am off to sleep...yet again up way too late!

Take care.

G'night, Lizards.

624 LeePro  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:40:06pm

re: #621 Bobibutu

RGR

?

625 LeePro  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:41:00pm

re: #623 NY Nana

{ { {NY Nana} } }

626 bosforus  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:41:15pm

re: #621 Bobibutu

RGR

Ah, there is life out there.

627 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:41:34pm

re: #617 bosforus

Exactly. Engineers need to have the integrity and humility to be able to say things like that's not in my training or help me with this problem before it endangers someone's life. A kid won't develop that if their parents do everything for them or worse, if their parent hires someone to do that for them.

China is going to overwhelm us I am afraid.

628 NY Nana  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:41:41pm

re: #620 LeePro

ROTFL! Probably fell asleep on their keyboards, and will have some really nasty dents in their foreheads when they awaken.

629 BlueCanuck  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:42:00pm

Good morning { { {LeePro} } }. Been a little busy here with work.
Incentive? How about a failing grade. :)

630 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:43:20pm

re: #624 LeePro

I concur.

631 bosforus  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:44:22pm

re: #627 Bobibutu

China is going to overwhelm us I am afraid.

That's why I chose Civil to other types of engineering. Hard to outsource federal/state/city work.

632 pat  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:44:23pm

re: #623 NY Nana

I do not let my kids take Tylenol. Nor is it allowed in my house. (my kids are in their 20's)

633 NY Nana  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:44:33pm

re: #625 LeePro

{{{ Lee }}}

634 LeePro  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:45:13pm

re: #629 BlueCanuck

Good morning { { {LeePro} } }. Been a little busy here with work.
Incentive? How about a failing grade. :)

Hi, { { {Blue} } }!

I'm just trying to give dormant lizards an incentive to come back to life here!

Looks like a few woke up after all!

635 bosforus  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:46:10pm

re: #631 bosforus

Only loophole to that is that they come here from China and work in the state buildings here.

636 pat  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:46:33pm

re: #625 LeePro

{ { {NY Nana} } }

Add 2 {NYNana}'s and a *. lol

637 LeePro  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:46:42pm

re: #630 Bobibutu

I concur.

Cool.

RGR = I concur

638 pat  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:47:02pm

Nite all.

639 BlueCanuck  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:47:35pm

re: #634 LeePro

I am awake, going to be a little busy here. Have to train a minion tonight so I will be posting rather spottilly. Oh, here's the puppy me and my friend picked up today.

/warning cuteness alert.

640 LeePro  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:48:02pm

re: #638 pat

Nite all.

Nite, Pat. Not far behind you!

641 bosforus  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:48:37pm

re: #639 BlueCanuck

Now that's one cute puppy.

642 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:49:51pm

re: #631 bosforus

That's why I chose Civil to other types of engineering. Hard to outsource federal/state/city work.

If you are a student - go for it and good on 'ya - some history courses will serve you well as well.

Pain in the ass but good info.

643 NY Nana  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:51:05pm

re: #632 pat

I do not let my kids take Tylenol. Nor is it allowed in my house. (my kids are in their 20's)

Good on you! Your kids are really very lucky. I just wish that more people were aware of the dangers. We get a myriad of ads, commercials, mailings, name it, for RX meds. IMHO, no advertising should be allowed on TV, in newspapers and magazines(remember those?), nor on the radio, or in the mail.

I take all the damned postcards that fall out of the mags, and send them back to the company, unless our name is on it.

BTW, since mine are 44, 42, 40 and almost 36? Yours really are kids! ;)

644 LeePro  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:52:30pm

re: #639 BlueCanuck

I am awake, going to be a little busy here. Have to train a minion tonight so I will be posting rather spottilly. Oh, here's the puppy me and my friend picked up today.

/warning cuteness alert.

Cool! Adorable pup!
Is that you on the couch with Rascal?

645 bosforus  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:53:05pm

re: #642 Bobibutu

If you are a student - go for it and good on 'ya - some history courses will serve you well as well.

Pain in the ass but good info.

I just graduated. Gonna work for a while before I go back for the master's. Books from classes that don't involve equations have a tough time keeping my attention, that includes history. Which history are you thinking of? General history?

646 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:53:25pm

re: #637 LeePro

Cool.

RGR = I concur

Well actually it's RGR Wilco = I have received and will comply - WWii/mil talk

647 NY Nana  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:54:21pm

re: #636 pat

{{{ Pat }}} ;)

648 LeePro  Mon, Apr 21, 2008 11:55:30pm

re: #643 NY Nana

Good on you! Your kids are really very lucky. I just wish that more people were aware of the dangers. We get a myriad of ads, commercials, mailings, name it, for RX meds. IMHO, no advertising should be allowed on TV, in newspapers and magazines(remember those?), nor on the radio, or in the mail.

I take all the damned postcards that fall out of the mags, and send them back to the company, unless our name is on it.

BTW, since mine are 44, 42, 40 and almost 36? Yours really are kids! ;)

I must be living in a bubble!
What's up with Tylenol? I take Advil, myself, and my "kids" are 40 and 36, so no control there.

Just haven't heard the Tylenol flap...

649 Bobibutu  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:00:51am

re: #645 bosforus

I just graduated. Gonna work for a while before I go back for the master's. Books from classes that don't involve equations have a tough time keeping my attention, that includes history. Which history are you thinking of? General history?

Google COINS and then work backwards.

Victor David Hanson

[Link: www.victorhanson.com...]

Is a good place to start.

He has his shit together.

650 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:02:35am

re: #646 Bobibutu

Well actually it's RGR Wilco = I have received and will comply - WWii/mil talk

Thanks.
Figgered that anyway.

But you never can tell, with all the acronyms thrown about all over the internet. Coulda' meant something like "Real Good Rhetoric," for all we know...

; )

651 bosforus  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:04:03am

re: #649 Bobibutu

Google COINS and then work backwards.

Victor David Hanson

[Link: www.victorhanson.com...]

Is a good place to start.

He has his shit together.

Thanks. Will do ... tomorrow ... assuming I remember that this conversation took place. :)
Night, everybody.

652 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:04:28am

re: #644 LeePro

Yeah, that's me. :)

/armour is in the shop for polishing.

653 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:07:35am

re: #652 BlueCanuck

Yeah, that's me. :)

/armour is in the shop for polishing.

LOL
You are quite dashing without the armor, sir!

* and so is your lady (I scrolled back some in your photos!)

654 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:07:35am

RGR just happens to be Sturm Ruger & Company's stock symbol (presently trading at $7.54 a share on the NYSE).

655 Bobibutu  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:07:45am

re: #650 LeePro

Thanks.
Figgered that anyway.

But you never can tell, with all the acronyms thrown about all over the internet. Coulda' meant something like "Real Good Rhetoric," for all we know...

; )

Stick to the .mil and IBM acros and you will be fine. They have been online forever. i.e., since the beginning.

656 NY Nana  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:08:14am

re: #648 LeePro

See this post, Lee.

I learned something about it, as I am an RN (Ret), but it makes me just furious that the FDA does not make warnings mandatory. What is their problem? Too much Shrillary, and her stealth campaign her first occupation of the White House re health care?

/I am shocked that she didn't claim to be an MD.

And I think that the FDA is very much in the pocket of the big pharmaceutical companies. I could rant on this for hours,especially re the far too early results of new meds being rushed to the markets without careful testing..and then they cry when the class action suites start to pour in.

Bah.

657 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:09:01am

re: #653 LeePro

Thank you. *bow*

658 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:10:11am

re: #441 JeremyR

Non steroidal anti inflamatory drug. Aspirin, tylenol Motrin etc.

acetaminophen is *not* a NSAID....

659 NY Nana  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:12:53am

G'nite, all! I am really closing down, as it is after 3 AM here!

/I will now go into a self-induced state of suspended animation until after the results of the PA primary are in.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz.

660 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:14:24am

re: #656 NY Nana

Damn!

661 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:18:04am

re: #660 LeePro

Damn!

acetaminophen is a fine drug that w*rks well within it's limitations.....

and i've seen mucomyst do the j*b just fine on Tylenol OD's: you just have to start in time and dose it right.

however, i have a stack of scay "nurse" stories that will curl your hair. %-)

662 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:20:55am

Saw Miguel downstairs. Invited him up.

Miguel, you here?

663 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:25:02am

re: #662 LeePro

Saw Miguel downstairs. Invited him up.

Miguel, you here?

maybe he's waiting on a visa? %-)

664 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:32:40am

Where IS everybody?


HELLO-O-O-O-O

 HELLO-O-O-O-O

   hello-o-o-o-o

      hello-o-o-o-o

      hello-o-o-o-o


:-° %u266C%u266A%u266B [whistling in the dark]

665 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:34:21am

re: #663 redc1c4

maybe he's waiting on a visa? %-)

We don' need no fookin' veeeeeeesas in here, gringo!

666 Salem  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:36:11am

Devil

667 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:36:59am

Back just doing some training.

668 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:43:24am

:-° %u266C%u266A%u266B




*gettin' scary in here*

669 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:45:28am

re: #668 LeePro

Whistling in the dark are you?

*passes LeePro a flashlight.*

670 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:45:38am

Mornin folks...red, Blue, Nana, bos, Lee, Fenway, Bob...Lol(?) & Miguel(?)

Great...Clinton might(or would...what ever) attack Iran after Iran has destroyed Israel and Israel, likely as not, has already retaliated.

Isn't it getting a bit obvious that we've absolutely no intention of preventing Iran from going nuclear - unless it comes as some sort of complete accident or fluke?

Another vunderbar friggin day in the neighborhood.

671 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:46:47am

re: #665 LeePro

We don' need no fookin' veeeeeeesas in here, gringo!

callate bruja...... %-)

672 freetoken  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:48:12am

Happy Earth Day everybody!

673 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:48:16am

re: #670 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Mornin folks...red, Blue, Nana, bos, Lee, Fenway, Bob...Lol(?) & Miguel(?)

Great...Clinton might(or would...what ever) attack Iran after Iran has destroyed Israel and Israel, likely as not, has already retaliated.

Isn't it getting a bit obvious that we've absolutely no intention of preventing Iran from going nuclear - unless it comes as some sort of complete accident or fluke? Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Another vunderbar friggin day in the neighborhood.

/you left out the sarc part, but i fixed it for ya! %-)

674 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:48:43am
Lol(?)

Yes? aboo? ;-)

Great...Clinton might(or would...what ever) attack Iran after Iran has destroyed Israel and Israel, likely as not, has already retaliated.

That's more than George Bush is promising.

I get to vote for her (or the Manchurian candidate) today.

675 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:49:01am

re: #672 freetoken

Happy Earth Day everybody!

remind me to run the heater & the AC at the same time today. %-)

676 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:49:32am

good morning aboo. Pretty dreary out there at times isn't it.

/I recommend puppies as an antidote. :)
re: #639 BlueCanuck

677 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:49:56am

re: #674 littleoldlady

That's more than George Bush is promising.

I get to vote for her (or the Manchurian candidate) today.

vote for her: we want to string this out as long as we can......

/pass the popcorn

678 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:51:39am

re: #676 BlueCanuck

good morning aboo. Pretty dreary out there at times isn't it.

/I recommend puppies as an antidote. :)

saw the pic: you realize that now she's gonna spend all your money, break your heart AND steal your dog when she leaves......

/upside is, you might get a hit Country song out if it all %-)

679 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:52:32am

re: #678 redc1c4

No worries, it's her dog. :)

/I will probably be suckered with duties. Worth it in my opinion.

680 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:53:17am

re: #671 redc1c4

callate bruja...... %-)

Hush witch, yourself, asshole!

681 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:55:31am

re: #670 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Hey {aboo}
Long time, no read!

682 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:58:06am

re: #680 LeePro

Hush witch, yourself, asshole!

that would be "callate culo"...... %-)

683 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:03:11am

re: #674 littleoldlady

That's more than George Bush is promising.

I get to vote for her (or the Manchurian candidate) today.

Hi, { { { L.o.L.} } }!

I remember how sad you were during Super Tuesday that tha PA primary wasn't until 4/22! You said something like "What's the point?" Funny how some things can turn completely around, hunh? Now your vote is pretty damn significant!

684 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:04:28am

Good morning { { {littleoldlady} } }. All ready to make your mark in history?

685 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:05:51am

re: #683 LeePro

PIMF
tha = the

686 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:07:03am

re: #683 LeePro

Lee! :-)

It's still as insignificant as it ever was, since our current candidates were chosen by the media and...Iowa and New Hampshire.

It probably doesn't matter what Hillary does in PA today. "They" want Obama, and they will have him.

BlueCanuck! :-)

687 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:12:41am

re: #686 littleoldlady

Lee! :-)

It's still as insignificant as it ever was, since our current candidates were chosen by the media and...Iowa and New Hampshire.

It probably doesn't matter what Hillary does in PA today. "They" want Obama, and they will have him.

BlueCanuck! :-)

Well-l-l-l-l-l...
Maybe if you punch that "VOTE" button with a significant vengeance ...?

%-(

688 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:14:43am

re: #687 LeePro

Well-l-l-l-l-l...
Maybe if you punch that "VOTE" button with a significant vengeance ...?

%-(

Heh, heh, just got a vision of punching a ballot with a .357. :)

689 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:16:55am

Nah. My (Hungarian) cold fury is much more effective than my (Russian) temper tantrums.

/the DNA will out ;-)

690 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:18:30am

re: #688 BlueCanuck

Heh, heh, just got a vision of punching a ballot with a .357. :)

LOL
After my adventures yesterday [owwwww, my thumb!], that is really funny!

691 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:19:59am

re: #689 littleoldlady

Nah. My (Hungarian) cold fury is much more effective than my (Russian) temper tantrums.

/the DNA will out ;-)

German/Irish here. Much more prone to acting out!
;)

692 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:20:02am

re: #689 littleoldlady

re: #690 LeePro

Yeah, but it would definitely make a statement from a TWP in PA. :)

693 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:20:49am

re: #691 LeePro

Don't get my scottish up. It's in constant battle with my english.
*snicker*

694 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:20:59am

re: #692 BlueCanuck

LOL

695 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:23:25am

Yeah, I'm a schizophrenic...

...and so am I!

Having said all that, I'm hoping Hillary wipes the floor with B. Hussein here.

696 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:24:11am

re: #693 BlueCanuck

Proud clan MacDonald!

697 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:32:51am

Lol, Bush is snake-bit and tired of being stabbed in the back, shoot you can't hardly blame him. But kicking the Iranian problem down the road...when all we really need to do is pull-out and use a couple of pages out of the Mullah's handbook?

Blue...don't get me going on dogs, puppies along with kids/babies - I really do have some work to do.

698 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:34:02am

re: #697 aboo-Hoo-Hoo


Blue...don't get me going on dogs, puppies along with kids/babies - I really do have some work to do.

Just doing my best to lift spirits and hampering work. ;)

699 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:39:43am

re: #697 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Lol, Bush is snake-bit and tired of being stabbed in the back

Alternate theory: Different people are running the show during his second term than were pulling the strings in the first.

I didn't vote for James Baker!

700 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:44:22am

re: #699 littleoldlady

Alternate theory: Different people are running the show during his second term than were pulling the strings in the first.

I didn't vote for James Baker!

Hammer. Nail.
Your theory same as mine!

701 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:45:42am

re: #700 LeePro

Good!

/because I was beginning to think I was nutz.

702 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:46:33am

Lee
Here I am :)
Thanks ;)

703 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:47:03am

Hey aboo! :)

704 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:47:53am

Abdullah to ask Bush to cancel visit

"Jordan's King Abdullah is expected to advise US President George W. Bush to postpone or cancel his upcoming visit to the Middle East," ....

[...]"if there is not an agreement of principles between Israel and the Palestinians on the horizon."

Sounds good to me. To bad he didnt demand that Condi be pulled back to DC for the remainder of Bush's term.

705 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:48:05am

littleoldlady :)

Blue :)

706 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:48:35am

Miguelito! :-)

707 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:48:59am

Good morning Miguel, busy lurking in the threads below?

708 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:50:55am

When I was a younglin, BB was a world-class icon.
But she has always been a bit on the moonbatish -hippish- side.

Anyway, because of good memories, I'm ready to give her a break and appreciate her concern for the muslims invasion in France and other European countries.

709 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:52:39am
710 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:52:40am

re: #707 BlueCanuck

Good morning Miguel, busy lurking in the threads below?

Sort of, Blue. Mainly on this one, I read it all.
That means I've seen YOU man! Now I know you.
And your stalkee and Rascal, etc ;)

A few threads have been so nasty I didn't comment or read them.

711 Hengineer  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:53:36am

off topic.

hi!

712 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:53:49am

re: #700 LeePro

Different people are running the show during his second term than were pulling the strings in the first.

...and that encapsulates the origin of our long and fast growing list of mega-problems - Colin Powell.

713 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:53:58am

re: #711 Hengineer

off topic.

hi!

ROFL!

Hi!

714 Hengineer  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:54:53am

ah killing a few minutes before UNREP callout.

not much time now before I have to go back to the "real" world.

715 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:55:23am

re: #710 MigueldowninMexico

Yeah, I don't have much too hide really. :)

As to some of those threads, I avoided them like the proverbial plague. I have strong opinions and I KNOW I would have offended some people.

716 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:55:30am

Are you telling the Tale of Two Bushes?

Was that Dickens too?

/No puns allowed, ok?

717 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:56:19am

re: #715 BlueCanuck

Yeah, I don't have much too hide really. :)

As to some of those threads, I avoided them like the proverbial plague. I have strong opinions and I KNOW I would have offended some people.

Same here!
Better to stay away ;)

718 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:56:20am

re: #711 Hengineer

Good morning, afternoon, evening.

/take your pick of which ever one fits.

719 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:56:39am
720 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:57:38am
721 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:57:39am

re: #710 MigueldowninMexico

A few threads have been so nasty I didn't comment or read them.

Arid desert for a few days.

Except for my gun class score of 99!

722 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:58:02am

re: #714 Hengineer

ah killing a few minutes before UNREP callout.

not much time now before I have to go back to the "real" world.

This thing here is quite real too!
Every month whenI down those 400 pesos (about 36 dollars) I'm reminded of how REAL this thing is.
LOL!

723 Hengineer  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:58:10am

re: #718 BlueCanuck

good day, mate

724 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:58:59am

re: #720 ploome hineni

and she enjoyed walking around nekkid

boy was she georgous

She was! :)

725 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:00:00am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------->
Help yourselves!

726 Panhandler  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:00:12am

And, because conservegirl was all wound up about them last night, I present for the consideration of the northern epicures:
Alabama's Answer To Scrapple

727 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:00:19am

w00t! :-)

728 Hengineer  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:00:20am

mmm the fun begins

"The time is now 1200, this is a callout for UNREP Detail...."

729 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:01:00am

re: #721 LeePro

Arid desert for a few days.

Except for my gun class score of 99!

Congratulations for that! :)

And...we still have the wonderful Dead Threads ;)

730 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:01:15am

re: #712 aboo-Hoo-Hoo


You quoted me with...

Different people are running the show during his second term than were pulling the strings in the first.

That belongs to L.o.L., but I agree!

731 Panhandler  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:02:06am

re: #725 littleoldlady
Dang LoL, you nailed it again. Perhaps you should intuit Savage's grandfather timing, save him a lot of running around.

732 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:02:27am

re: #726 Panhandler

And, because conservegirl was all wound up about them last night, I present for the consideration of the northern epicures:
Alabama's Answer To Scrapple

I love grilled cheese! Mmmm...

733 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:02:38am

re: #712 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

...and that encapsulates the origin of our long and fast growing list of mega-problems - Colin Powell.

IIRC (because it feels like a century ago) Powell was the one who was frustrated because he didn't agree with Bush's in-crowd at the time.

In my opinion, our "long and fast growing list of mega-problems" can be encapsulated as follows: A Crisis of Leadership

734 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:02:51am

re: #716 MigueldowninMexico

Are you telling the Tale of Two Bushes?

Was that Dickens too?

/No puns allowed, ok?

Two dicks.

/ NOT a pun!

735 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:02:53am

re: #727 littleoldlady

w00t! :-)

Wow littleoldlady!
Your aim is fantastic! :)

736 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:03:47am

littleoldlady, why aren't you picking the powerball numbers?

/with timing like that you should do well. :)

737 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:04:33am

re: #731 Panhandler

Panhandler! :-)

If I was any good at "nailing" anything other than fruitcup, I would have won the Powerball already and be typing this from my laptop on some remote tropical beach.

;-)

738 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:04:36am

re: #736 BlueCanuck

littleoldlady, why aren't you picking the powerball numbers?

/with timing like that you should do well. :)

She would be good at shooting too!

739 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:04:54am

re: #736 BlueCanuck

GMTA! ;-)

740 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:06:16am

littleoldlady
Do you want a tropical bitch?
I have a neighbor here I can sell you...

She knows the lives of the whole block lol

741 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:06:45am

re: #737 littleoldlady

And how do we know you're not. ;)

/the intertubes are a wonderful thing.

742 LeePro  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:07:36am

re: #725 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------->
Help yourselves!

Grab and run! ! !




Lizards all...

I simply must go now. Infection causing swollen gums/toothache/headache/eye-drool............ gah-h-h-h-h-h!

Love you ALL [well, except one who could be loved but is just mean]!

743 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:08:27am

Night { {LeePro} }. Have a good sleep.

744 Panhandler  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:08:38am

re: #737 littleoldlady

Panhandler! :-)

If I was any good at "nailing" anything other than fruitcup, I would have won the Powerball already and be typing this from my laptop on some remote tropical beach.

;-)

I got your remote beach right here. This place has ambiance.

745 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:08:52am
746 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:10:14am

re: #741 BlueCanuck

And how do we know you're not. ;)

/the intertubes are a wonderful thing.

Very true.

/good thing you can't see my dungeon ;-)

747 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:10:28am

re: #742 LeePro

Grab and run! ! !


Lizards all...

I simply must go now. Infection causing swollen gums/toothache/headache/eye-drool....... ..... gah-h-h-h-h-h!

Love you ALL [well, except one who could be loved but is just mean]!

{LeePro}
Hope you get better soon! Take a lot of care.
Love you too :)

748 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:10:44am

re: #742 LeePro

Oh! feel better, Lee!
'Night.

749 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:12:57am

re: #745 ploome hineni

and happy

she was more beautiful than Angelina

remember how beautiful she was?

Catherine Deneuve

Yes I remember her well. I saw several of her pictures, like Belle du Jour.
But for me Brigitte was a lot more attractive.

750 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:13:49am

re: #744 Panhandler

I got your remote beach right here. This place has ambiance.

After I win the Powerball I'll be able to buy better "ambience" than that.

/at the moment that's about what the budget can handle... :-(re: #745 ploome hineni

751 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:14:37am

WHOOPS

ploome!

Not too shabby for 65.

752 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:15:01am
753 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:15:38am

Hi Savage! :)

754 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:15:59am
755 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:16:32am
756 Panhandler  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:16:53am

re: #752 savage_nation
Man, you're really covering ground there guy, made it over the California line yet?

757 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:17:05am

Good morning Savge. Dodging the global warming where you are?

758 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:17:36am

re: #754 ploome hineni

You are MUCH younger than 65!

759 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:17:44am
760 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:18:00am
761 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:18:01am

savage! :-)

762 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:18:30am
763 Panhandler  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:19:02am

re: #759 savage_nation

Been there, not that bad - but they don't have cheese grits.

764 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:19:49am

re: #709 ploome hineni

Unfortunately I can't disagree with 709 or 719. Were I to recommend a course to Israel it would be shove the Pal's into Egypt and/or Syria then ask the SoB's(the League/OIC) if they'd like to consider new negotiation's sometime over the period of next couple of centuries.

Ending the statement or discussion with 'don't blink or even think about moving...now go STFU.'

765 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:21:03am
766 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:22:39am

re: #764 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

I'm writing you in as President when I go to vote today, aboo!

767 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:23:41am

re: #766 littleoldlady

I'm writing you in as President when I go to vote today, aboo!

That's right!
Today's your day of voting!
:)

768 Panhandler  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:23:44am

re: #765 savage_nation

Next time I'm out that way, I'll check and see. I "haul" but in a different way.

769 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:24:06am
770 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:24:32am
771 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:25:05am

re: #769 ploome hineni

You are!

/and if you're not, you at least LOOK much younger, which is all that matters.

:-)

772 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:25:05am
773 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:25:54am
774 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:26:23am
775 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:29:13am
776 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:29:51am
777 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:31:07am

We've left?

/where did we go?

778 Panhandler  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:31:09am

re: #774 ploome hineni

I am georgous

/you are correct


And humble to boot!

779 coquimbojoe  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:33:15am

re: #767 MigueldowninMexico

That's right!
Today's your day of voting!
:)

Hey Miguelito! You asked about 'sour grapes' from the evolution thread (I hadn't touched the computer since yesterday morning). None by me Zombie is feeling very beaten up and has said he/she wouldn't be posting for a awhile.

I think the debate is good, the emotion wasted. No one was swayed one way or the other. I bet there are people still posting over there.....

780 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:33:18am
781 Panhandler  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:37:21am

re: #780 ploome hineni
Careful ploome, we don't want the ID/creation thread being resurrected.

782 Salem  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:37:44am

re: #779 coquimbojoe

I bet there are people still posting over there.....

Yeah, a clip of some guy drinking bongwater.

783 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:37:54am
784 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:41:46am

re: #783 savage_nation

Gahhh, Why won't they give up. :p

785 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:42:20am
786 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:43:39am
787 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:44:05am

re: #785 savage_nation

Yeah, the same people making the exact same arguments and no one listening to the either side. I have seen these "discussions" before in real life.

788 coquimbojoe  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:44:44am

re: #782 Salem

Yeah, a clip of some guy drinking bongwater.

Proving what? devolution?

Goodnight Lizards. Savage, stay safe on the roads. See most of you in the morning.

789 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:45:03am
790 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:45:21am
791 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:45:59am

re: #779 coquimbojoe

Hey Miguelito! You asked about 'sour grapes' from the evolution thread (I hadn't touched the computer since yesterday morning). None by me Zombie is feeling very beaten up and has said he/she wouldn't be posting for a awhile.

I think the debate is good, the emotion wasted. No one was swayed one way or the other. I bet there are people still posting over there.....

The bad thing about that thread, and the Robert Spencer one- is that some people were personally at odds, even hating each other.
I'm sorry for zombie.

792 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:46:40am

Night joe, sleep well and we shall see you on the morrow.

793 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:46:57am

re: #780 ploome hineni

simply irrisistable

LOL!

794 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:47:10am
795 Salem  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:47:19am

re: #787 BlueCanuck

Yeah, the same people making the exact same arguments and no one listening to the either side. I have seen these "discussions" before in real life.

If they are making the exact same arguments, why bother listening to either side? Is there a benefit to listening to the same argument you've heard over and over?

796 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:48:08am

Bye Joe! :)

797 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:48:39am

re: #794 savage_nation

That thread isn't the only one with someone hating another.

I know. It's sad...

798 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:49:22am

re: #795 Salem

If they are making the exact same arguments, why bother listening to either side? Is there a benefit to listening to the same argument you've heard over and over?

I might be hated for saying this, nut I see it as a power trip.
"I know better than you".

799 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:49:50am
800 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:50:37am

re: #795 Salem

[self deleted], I don't want to start it all over again. :)

801 Salem  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:52:53am

re: #788 coquimbojoe

Proving what? devolution?

I don't know, but it turns out that Germany's dim slacker stoneheads are a lot like ours.

802 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:55:12am

re: #799 savage_nation

yep. got first hand experience with that today.....

Did you have a row with someone, savage?

803 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:55:35am
804 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:58:57am

re: #803 savage_nation

You're going to make us look for it?

805 Panhandler  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:59:31am

re: #798 MigueldowninMexico
Miguel, we're dealing with some core beliefs here. People tend to get a little adamant when others express a differing world view. It's one thing to argue over dry vs wet barbecue, quite another when one is expressing basic beliefs. I read the whole thing and came away unsurprised in the realization that my view isn't the same as others but it's my view and I am content with it. The upshot of the whole long thread was that nobody posted an argument/explanation that changed anybody elses concepts, which is what I expected would be the result.

806 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:00:16am
807 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:00:39am
808 Panhandler  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:02:12am

re: #803 savage_nation

Savage had a disagreement with another poster? Perish the thought, not our Savage - quiet, humble, unassuming Savage?

809 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:03:10am

re: #805 Panhandler

Miguel, we're dealing with some core beliefs here. People tend to get a little adamant when others express a differing world view. It's one thing to argue over dry vs wet barbecue, quite another when one is expressing basic beliefs. I read the whole thing and came away unsurprised in the realization that my view isn't the same as others but it's my view and I am content with it. The upshot of the whole long thread was that nobody posted an argument/explanation that changed anybody elses concepts, which is what I expected would be the result.

I agree in general :)

810 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:04:17am

re: #806 savage_nation

Scroll up to post #219. That's where it began.

Oh.

811 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:06:42am
812 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:09:19am

Pakistan signs pact with Taliban : Fuck You, America!

PESHAWAR, Pakistan (AP) - Pakistan freed a pro-Taliban cleric and quickly signed an accord with his hard-line group Monday, the first major step by the new government to talk peace with Islamic militants and break with President Pervez Musharraf's policy of using force.

The day's developments began with the release of Sufi Muhammad, who is believed in his 70s, after more than five years in custody following his dispatch of thousands of followers to fight in Afghanistan.

A few hours later, the government of North West Frontier Province said Muhammad's group signed a pact renouncing violence in return for being allowed to peacefully campaign for Islamic law. Security forces have the right to "act against" any extremists who attack the government.

Analysts cautioned it would take time to judge the new approach, noting Musharraf also struck truces with some groups that U.S. officials have complained gave Pakistani militants as well as Taliban and al-Qaida fighters a chance to build up their strength.

The anti-government sentiments in the region affected by Monday's deal are seen as less intractable than those held by Taliban sympathizers in the tribal regions of Waziristan, where U.S. officials believe Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaida leaders are hiding.

Provincial government spokesman Faridullah Khan said the pact covers the Swat Valley and neighboring districts in this area along the Afghan frontier.

It was not clear if the deal was accepted by Muhammad's son-in-law, Mualana Fazlullah, whose fighters seized control of the Swat Valley last year, prompting a bloody army offensive.

Fazlullah's spokesman could not be reached for comment late Monday. Fazlullah is reportedly at odds with Muhammad, and experts expressed doubts the younger militant would change.

"I think Maulana Fazlullah will continue with whatever he is doing," said Mehmood Shah, former security chief for Pakistan's tribal areas.

Talat Masood, a retired general and security analyst, said the deal with Muhammad demonstrated the new government's willingness to try dialogue with militants and could increase pressure on Fazlullah and others to lay down their arms.

"But it's a long way before you can make any judgment as to whether this is a success," he said, citing the previous failed peace efforts with pro-Taliban militants.

"We have to see ... to what extent both parties are going to abide by the agreement and whether the militants use this period to consolidate," he said.

Pakistan's national government, led by the party of assassinated Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, wants to use dialogue and development to curb militancy in the tribal region. The North West Frontier provincial government, which is led by a Pashtun nationalist party, has joined the effort.

It is a major shift from the more aggressive approach that Musharraf's military regime took with U.S. support after Pakistan joined the war on terror following the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

Western nations have voiced support for dialogue if Pakistan's militants renounce violence, but the release of Muhammad could cause some unease. Officials at the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad could not be reached for comment late Monday.

[SNIP]

813 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:11:00am

re: #811 BabbaZee

So, are we there yet?


Not yet. We're still trippin', sister.
/Peace and Love ;)

814 Salem  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:11:04am

re: #798 MigueldowninMexico

I might be hated for saying this, nut I see it as a power trip.
"I know better than you".

Well, people are haughty and arrogant everywhere. But if you are in a debate and you want to get your point across and be persuasive in your argument, you have to deal with attitudes and sacred cows in the crossfire. There are plenty of threads to be found here where a sensitive lizard can go and preach to the choir. Some threads involve a little rhetorical grappling.

Although I think part of the problem is that theological and scientific discourse bond about as well as matter and antimatter.

815 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:11:14am
816 Panhandler  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:11:17am

re: #811 BabbaZee

So, are we there yet?

I don't know, what exactly did you have in mind?

817 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:12:25am

Good morning, Lizards.

818 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:12:36am

re: #48 LoFlyer

European laws regarding freedom of speech are a joke. I mean sending someone to jail for saying the holocaust never occurred is a travesty of justice. I may disagree against the stated opinion, but sending them to jail? As much as I dislike the media's infatuation with Marxist ideology, should we send them all to jail? Opposing opinions and debate is the cornerstone of western democracy. This is thought control.

I'm late to this thread (blame the timezones!) - but have to take issue with this:
In Germany and Austria it is against the law to deny that the Holocaust took place. Thus the punishment for 'deniers' in these two countries.
You can deny the Holocaust in any other European country - nothing happens.

I wonder if people all over the world would be happy if German and Austrian people, not just Neo-Nazis, went around denying this? Thus making it easy to forget all about it, and regarding the Third reich as a normal state?
Why do you think Germans have made such huge steps in accepting their past, taking responsibility for it, and doing their best to see it never happens again?
And why is it, do you think, that stalinism is still hankered after in Russia, even though people know about the GULAG?

Denying the Holocaust is against the law in Germany for very good reasons, which should be appreciated especially by those who fought against Hitler.

819 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:14:26am

re: #815 savage_nation

And why do we ever take prisoners? Battlefield executions should be policy. Kill all of them, leave none alive. And the hell with intelligence gathering. Fuck it.

I agree with you to a certain extent, but I have a feeling that if we started out harshly, we'd get far more cooperation and thus have fewer to deal with later--and better intelligence from those we did capture.

The time for mercy is after their surrender.

820 Salem  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:15:25am

re: #812 BabbaZee

Crikey...

821 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:15:35am

Ok Babba
La Jornada, the communist newspaper from Mexico City has an article with the title: "Hamas leader belies Carter: says they don't plan to recognize Israel".

At least they're being frank about it.

822 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:16:10am

re: #813 MigueldowninMexico

Shalom Miguel!

823 Salem  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:16:11am

Well, that's grim. I'm going to bed...

824 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:16:28am

re: #820 Salem

Crikey...

tellin' ya.

825 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:17:25am
826 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:18:29am

re: #815 savage_nation

And why do we ever take prisoners? Battlefield executions should be policy. Kill all of them, leave none alive. And the hell with intelligence gathering. Fuck it.

Intelligence gathering is only intelligence gathering if you can use the established interrogation methods designed to gather intelligence.

So....yea, if we are not going to do that, no reason to take a prisoner.

827 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:19:21am
828 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:20:37am

re: #816 Panhandler

I don't know, what exactly did you have in mind?

What I have in my mind is now classified as crime

lol

829 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:20:38am
830 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:21:16am

re: #822 BabbaZee

Shalom Miguel!

Shalom Babba :)

831 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:24:49am

re: #829 savage_nation

All we ever get out of the prisoners are lies, lies and more lies on top of lies and lies and bullshit. Whats the damn point in feeding and housing known liars?

All of us have fed and housed liars at some point in our lives

LOL

But I understand what you are saying.

My feelings on this can't even be posted here.

But it related to Amalekites.

Saul , of course, did not listen.

832 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:25:15am

Jumping up to the new thread :)

833 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:26:35am

ok

834 Silhouette  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:46:28am

re: #787 BlueCanuck

Yeah, the same people making the exact same arguments and no one listening to the either side.


re: #805 Panhandler

The upshot of the whole long thread was that nobody posted an argument/explanation that changed anybody elses concepts, which is what I expected would be the result.

So, y'all are saying the discussion never evolved?

:rimshot:

835 Alibaba  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 7:19:42am

Bardot is not the problem - the Islamist thugs in France are. The French had better wake up before it is too late - and it already may be too late.

836 Alibaba  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 7:24:14am

re: #749 MigueldowninMexico
Neither has aged well, especially Bardot. Deneuve has become very matronly lookin - I saw her in a movie recently.

837 Alibaba  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 7:25:37am

re: #48 LoFlyer
This is because Austria and Germany needed to denazify - and quickly. While we are in Iraq, we should do everything possible to say, NO SHARRIA LAW HERE!

838 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:01:23am

Little late here, but I just wanted to say that Dissident Frogman's take on Bardot is spot on.

Thanks Frogman!


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