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Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:12:09 am PDT

Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.

Sun Tzu

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1 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:14:23am

Oooh I like Sun Tzu

/in death ground fight.

2 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:14:39am

Morning Lizards!

3 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:15:23am

Morning rightside, how are you this fine, beautiful day.

4 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:17:16am

BRB, time to get everyone up to speed.

5 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:18:14am

re: #3 BlueCanuck

Morning BC, doing just great thanks..and you?

6 TheMatrix31  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:19:19am

So, do we root for Hillary and hope the Dems beat up on each other even more? Or do we root for Obama in hopes that enough damage is done to render him worthless on a national scale? Too bad we know just how worthless (yet scary) he really is already.

7 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:20:14am

That's a great Sun Tzu quotation. I seriously think I'll have it mounted on the wall of my office.

8 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:21:14am

re: #6 TheMatrix31

I vote for the former...still forever relatively speaking before the GE... more bloodshed!

9 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:22:00am

re: #6 TheMatrix31

So, do we root for Hillary and hope the Dems beat up on each other even more? Or do we root for Obama in hopes that enough damage is done to render him worthless on a national scale? Too bad we know just how worthless (yet scary) he really is already.

I like to think that either way we win!

Seriously though, I don't like playing games with elections (although I know that's a BIG part of them). I'd rather Hillary win the nomination because, believe it or not, I trust her more than I do Obama, and if McCain loses, I'm far more worried about our country under Obama than I am under Hillary.

10 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:22:06am

re: #6 TheMatrix31


I suspect the average Lizard would be happier (less anguished?) with Hillary than with Obama "Saddam" Hussain...

Hillary: If Iran Attacked Israel With Nukes 'We Would Be Able to Totally Obliterate Them'
11 TheMatrix31  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:23:52am

The problem with Hillary winning is that it seems like now, McCain would have a more difficult time beating her than Obama. I guess we don't know anything for sure, but it seems like a far cry compared to just a short time ago.

12 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:24:49am

re: #6 TheMatrix31

So, do we root for Hillary and hope the Dems beat up on each other even more? Or do we root for Obama in hopes that enough damage is done to render him worthless on a national scale? Too bad we know just how worthless (yet scary) he really is already.

Hillary. Given a choice beteen voting for Obama and voting for Hillary, I would even vote for Hillary. And she is the next to the last individual in the world that I would vote for. If it says anything, I would vote for Howard Dean before I would vote for Obama.

13 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:25:44am

re: #11 TheMatrix31

The problem with Hillary winning is that it seems like now, McCain would have a more difficult time beating her than Obama. I guess we don't know anything for sure, but it seems like a far cry compared to just a short time ago.

I don't think that is true. Hillary and Obama have done a lot of damage to each other.

14 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:27:10am

re: #13 galloping granny

I don't think it's true either. Right now, there's a substantial percentage of Hillary folks who would vote for McCain rather than Obama, and visa versa.

15 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:27:52am

re: #12 galloping granny

I would vote for my disembodied spleen before I would vote for Obama

16 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:28:31am

re: #14 littleoldlady

I don't think it's true either. Right now, there's a substantial percentage of Hillary folks who would vote for McCain rather than Obama, and visa versa.

Exactly. Increasing every day.

/How're you this morning? Did I miss the fruit cup?

17 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:29:14am

re: #12 galloping granny

Hillary. Given a choice beteen voting for Obama and voting for Hillary, I would even vote for Hillary.

Somewhere she is laughing her ass off

That's the whole point of OBAMA
he is SUPPOSED to make her look acceptable

He sure makes her look less like a Marxist, doesn't he?

18 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:29:32am

re: #14 littleoldlady

I don't think it's true either. Right now, there's a substantial percentage of Hillary folks who would vote for McCain rather than Obama, and visa versa.

That's because they're filled with seething, burning, bitter rage!

19 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:29:44am

re: #15 BabbaZee

I would vote for my disembodied spleen before I would vote for Obama

You and me both Babba. I think you are on exactly the same semicolon in the same sentence on the same page about Barrack Hussein Obama. The "messiah." Agent of "change."

20 Ps2  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:30:14am

Islams want to change Greenwich time to mecca time and claim mecca is the center of the earth

[Link: www.newser.com...]

Daniel 7;25 gives some insight on the movement of history and the god of the bible proclaims Jerusalem to be the center of the earth.


interesting times we live in.

21 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:30:47am

re: #18 rightside

Honey, I'm a Pennsylvanian.

/bitter is what I cling to

;-)

22 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:31:05am

The Real Jimmy Carter

As former President Jimmy Carter met with Hamas leaders and laid a wreath at the tomb of terrorist Yasser Arafat, Americans were wondering who Carter really is.

Carter came into office portraying himself as a man of the people, a peanut farmer who cares about the problems of working class Americans. But Secret Service agents, Air Force One stewards, and White House residence staff saw an entirely different picture.

While Richard Nixon was known to the Secret Service as the strangest modern president, Carter was known as the least likeable. If the true measure of a man is how he treats the little people, Carter flunked the test. Inside the White House, Carter treated those who helped and protected him with contempt.

[SNIP]

23 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:31:35am

re: #17 BabbaZee

Hillary. Given a choice beteen voting for Obama and voting for Hillary, I would even vote for Hillary.

Somewhere she is laughing her ass off

That's the whole point of OBAMA
he is SUPPOSED to make her look acceptable

He sure makes her look less like a Marxist, doesn't he?

No, not less Marxist. Just less a cipher or a strawman.

24 Panhandler  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:31:48am

re: #15 BabbaZee

I would vote for my disembodied spleen before I would vote for Obama


I found Babba's sock puppet!

25 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:32:19am

re: #19 galloping granny

. I think you are on exactly the same semicolon in the same sentence on the same page about Barrack Hussein Obama.


no doubt.

26 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:32:31am

re: #17 BabbaZee

You know, Babba...your theory of using Obama as a foil for Hillary is a good one (and which I agree/d with). But don't you think it backfired on "them"?

Regardless of what happens today, I think he's going to get the nomination.

{BabbaZee}! :-)

27 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:32:48am

re: #24 Panhandler

Babba don't sock... but LOL~

28 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:33:25am

re: #21 littleoldlady

Now that's just funny...are you joining Operation Chaos? Voting to keep shrillary in?

29 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:33:30am

re: #26 littleoldlady

{Lil~Ole!}

It ain't over till it's over

30 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:33:48am
31 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:34:16am

re: #23 galloping granny

not to you maybe, you have an eagle eye
but to the public at large, she looks like a conservative in comparison

32 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:34:35am

re: #26 littleoldlady

You know, Babba...your theory of using Obama as a foil for Hillary is a good one (and which I agree/d with). But don't you think it backfired on "them"?

Regardless of what happens today, I think he's going to get the nomination.

{BabbaZee}! :-)

I'm not so sure of that after he announced yesterday that he would not be attending the debate long scheduled for North Carolina because of "time constraints."

33 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:34:55am

re: #30 savage_nation

He is one evil MFer

34 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:35:01am

Nuts, step away from the desk for a few minutes and the place picks up. :)

35 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:35:56am

Jimmah Carter is a tool

36 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:36:06am

re: #34 BlueCanuck

Nuts, step away from the desk for a few minutes and the place picks up. :)

Serves you right for eating all the fruit salad. Did you bring coffee back with you?

37 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:36:29am
38 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:36:57am

re: #20 Ps2

Warning:

This is a PDF

thought you may find it interesting

39 Irene NYC  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:37:14am

BabbaZee

Are you going to post a song for Earth Day? Maybe you could find something to match Giggle's, whooops!, I meant Google's fairytale art work? You know, something with a strident, Lenin-esque beat to it.

40 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:37:34am

re: #37 savage_nation

Replacing pictures of previous Presidents with his? I had no idea!

Thank GOD I believe that all men will be judged. It's the only thing that keeps me from violence.

41 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:37:47am

re: #21 littleoldlady

Honey, I'm a Pennsylvanian.

/bitter is what I cling to

;-)

{littleoldlady}!

Seriously, I want to arrange a meet-up after school's out (June 3). I'd love to go to the King of Prussia Mall--perhaps we could meet for lunch?

42 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:37:53am

re: #28 rightside

Now that's just funny...are you joining Operation Chaos? Voting to keep shrillary in?

No sir! I am a registered Democrat, and in Pennsylvania I now have only 2 choices to vote for in the primary.

/let's not go into the fact that I don't really have a choice, thanks to our primary system...
//where's my bloodpressure meds?!

43 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:38:54am

re: #39 Irene NYC

BabbaZee

Are you going to post a song for Earth Day? Maybe you could find something to match Giggle's, whooops!, I meant Google's fairytale art work? You know, something with a strident, Lenin-esque beat to it.

Oh good LAWD!

LOL!

44 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:39:12am

re: #39 Irene NYC

BabbaZee

Are you going to post a song for Earth Day? Maybe you could find something to match Giggle's, whooops!, I meant Google's fairytale art work? You know, something with a strident, Lenin-esque beat to it.

We are having a bonfire today to celebrate Earth Day :)

45 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:39:59am

I think I will go let all the product out of all my aerosol cans at once

BBIAM

46 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:40:16am

re: #36 galloping granny

I did NOT eat all the fruit salad. And coffee? What coffee?

/furtively slides cup of decaf behind him. *innocent look*

47 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:40:57am

Why didn't they make Earth Day coincide with Hitler's BD? Then they could have reallly partied like it's 1939

48 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:41:18am

From Instapundit: [Link: www.instapundit.com...]

OVER AT JERRY POURNELLE'S PLACE, some thoughts about evolution and creationism:

The ID/fundamentalists only posit a Creator who acts in ways that make sense to people, with human motivations (and yes, some folks like Hoyle---RIP, a great man---did not fit into this category). I'm back with Greg Benford about that: "The thing about aliens is, they're alien." The same thing holds true for deities. We *cannot* understand the universe from quanta to quasars, genes to galaxies. At least not now.

The AAs fit the same mold. I know better than Dawkins about the limitations of evolutionary thought on a molecular level (he is not a molecular biologist, as I am). Yet his pride shows in every syllable. The Greeks had a word for this: hubris.

None of this is new, and you have a great deal to contend with at present. All I am saying is that both "sides" miss the point: we should be humble about ourselves and our place in the universe. We cannot *know* if a Creator exists. We can only *believe* if one exists, or does not. And we should definitely be humble about our own tools to probe the universe---they are sparse and primitive.

The Fundamentalists who say the most ignorant things about evolution are wrong on their side. And Dawkins and Myers and their ilk, who dare to call people of faith "stupid" (while their own atheism requires as much faith as any snake handling fundamentalist), revolt me.

Mark Twain once wrote that we didn't know whether or not there was life after death. But soon enough we would know, so why fret about it?

Works for me!

49 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:42:32am

re: #48 goddessoftheclassroom

The ID/fundamentalists

that's the first three words of the article.

If I believe that ID has merit
I am a Fundie.

I am pretty fucking sick of that hooplewanky already.

50 Irene NYC  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:42:44am

BabbaZee!

As always, you are the best!

51 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:43:18am

re: #41 goddessoftheclassroom

Hey! I thought we were meeting at Cracker Barrel?

/perhaps that's the matzah talking ;-)

I would love to meet up with you! Unfortunately at the moment we are in a nasty state of financial flux. If I can fix this mess by the summer we'll make concrete plans, okay?

52 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:43:24am

re: #50 Irene NYC

{Irene!}


lol!

53 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:43:32am

re: #48 goddessoftheclassroom

Amen goddess. That's an argument I can get behind.

/still say god was a mathmatician.

54 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:43:44am

re: #49 BabbaZee

that's the first three words of the article.

If I believe that ID has merit
I am a Fundie.

I am pretty fucking sick of that hooplewanky already.

Oh, keep reading, though. Pretend the / is more an "or" than an "and."

55 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:44:41am

re: #42 littleoldlady

No sir! I am a registered Democrat, and in Pennsylvania I now have only 2 choices to vote for in the primary.

/let's not go into the fact that I don't really have a choice, thanks to our primary system...
//where's my bloodpressure meds?!

Yes LET'S to into the fact that the "Democrat" party has instituted a system of unelected, appointed "superdelegates" to override the expressed will of the people, completely disenfranchised the voters of two of the largest states in the US because the legislatures of those states chose to change primary day, and now want the superdelegates to decide who will be the Democrat nominee before the people in the last 10 or so states even have a chance to case a ballot! Did you know Dean was screaming for the superdelegates to choose yesterday? You would not even have needed to bother to vote!


And THEN they have the gall to call the ultimate choice for Democrat contender for the presidency the "people's representative." OK. Frankly, I think the Democrat party should be hauled into court for election fraud and engineering.

56 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:45:04am

re: #51 littleoldlady

Hey! I thought we were meeting at Cracker Barrel?

/perhaps that's the matzah talking ;-)

I would love to meet up with you! Unfortunately at the moment we are in a nasty state of financial flux. If I can fix this mess by the summer we'll make concrete plans, okay?

Oh, yes, a Cracker Barrel by all means! Is there one by KofP Mall?

/breakfast and shopping and littleoldlady--life will be good.

Summer will be far better for me, too.

57 Widow'smight  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:45:14am

re: #42 littleoldlady

Maybe us Pencil heads are sooo bitter because we get up so early to feed the chickens, load our guns, read our Scriptures and Alienate illegals.

How ya doin lady?

58 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:45:31am

re: #54 goddessoftheclassroom

I did read it.

But the inference was made,
and it is the kick off to the article to boot.

This is apparently a very common assumption,
and I am already sick of it is all

59 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:45:44am

re: #46 BlueCanuck

I did NOT eat all the fruit salad. And coffee? What coffee?

/furtively slides cup of decaf behind him. *innocent look*

You can keep the decaf honey :) Gotta be the real thing, strong enough to put hair on your chest (though not quite so strong as to stand up a spoon.) With just a touch of cream.

60 Irene NYC  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:46:00am

re: #44 galloping granny


We are having a bonfire today to celebrate Earth Day :)

Well, burn, granny, burn. And don't you furgit to send your prayers up to Gaia and the witches.
;)

61 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:46:45am

re: #54 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, keep reading, though. Pretend the / is more an "or" than an "and."

The sciences help us to understand "what." The arts help us to understand "what now."

Faith helps us understand "why."

62 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:46:50am

re: #55 galloping granny

I think the Democrat party should be hauled into court for election fraud and engineering.

I would agree with you (100%!), except their machinations are pretty much assuring an Obama loss.

/conflicted ;-)

63 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:46:53am
Pretend the / is more an "or" than an "and."

It was written with a specific intent.
I won't pretend it was not.

64 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:48:23am

re: #57 Widow'smight

Widow'smight! :-)

I'm okay. Exercising my touchpad finger in anticipation. :-)

You?

65 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:48:52am

re: #53 BlueCanuck

Amen goddess. That's an argument I can get behind.

/still say god was a mathmatician.

I would bet there is a fairly good possibility of that, given the frequent repetition of things like the Fibonnaci series.

66 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:48:53am

okay, off to work, be back in a bit.

67 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:49:15am
68 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:49:24am

re: #63 BabbaZee

It was written with a specific intent.
I won't pretend it was not.

I understand your frustration, but I was thrilled to see someone point out the flaws in the other argument.

70 MrMom  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:49:54am

re: #15 BabbaZee

I would vote for my disembodied spleen before I would vote for Obama

YEAH! Finally, a qualified candidate!
I'd vote for your spleen too, { { {BABBA} } }
I miss you maniacs! Just a quick drive-by. Tons of stuff going on and not enough time in the day.
L'il Ms.Mom may be going to Notre Dame in the fall. (beaming with pride). Decision time this week. My work situation is "in flux" but hope to have it resolved soon.
Will be back regularly as soon as possible. Keep my seat warm please.
I leave you (temporarily) with this...
[Link: www.biblegateway.com...]

71 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:50:40am

re: #56 goddessoftheclassroom

There's a Cracker Barrel in Plymouth Meeting, about 10 minutes from the Mall.

/life is good! :-)

72 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:50:55am

re: #60 Irene NYC

Well, burn, granny, burn. And don't you furgit to send your prayers up to Gaia and the witches.
;)

Over my dead body you should even joke about such a thing as sending prayers to anyone except YHWH. I won't even eat food marked halal because I consider it to have been dedicated to a false god.

You didn't see the point about open burning to "celebrate" Earth Day, did you? Greenies don't think open burning is very green.

73 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:53:28am

Morning

74 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:53:47am
75 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:54:04am

re: #65 galloping granny

I would bet there is a fairly good possibility of that, given the frequent repetition of things like the Fibonnaci series.

And don' forget the good old ones like π, φ (phi), and plancks constant.

76 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:54:34am

re: #68 goddessoftheclassroom

It's not frustration Goddess.
I just have a deep belief in the power of words and I watch how they are used very very carefully.

And yes it was nice to see someone point out the flaws.

IMO this argument is a huge waste of time.

Evolution partially and incompletely describes a mechanism, not a cause.
GOD and science are not mutually exclusive.

But SCIENCE wants to make sure they are.

I have no desire to have any arguments with anyone over this crap.

Far as I am concerned it is another Stan sponsored divide and conquer trick.

But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.
~Titus 3:9

77 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:55:16am

In honor of Earth Day all liberals should stop breathing for 15 minutes to help the environment !

78 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:55:17am

re: #70 MrMom

{MrMom!}

79 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:56:31am

re: #72 galloping granny

Over my dead body you should even joke about such a thing as sending prayers to anyone except YHWH. I won't even eat food marked halal because I consider it to have been dedicated to a false god.

You didn't see the point about open burning to "celebrate" Earth Day, did you? Greenies don't think open burning is very green.

You are so right. I almost got into a heated argument at a very genteel women's club meeting about changing our association's stance from requiring "an affirmation in belief in God" to "an affirmation fo spirituality." Fortunately, even grander dames than I smacked down the waffly moonbat, and we stood by our traditions.

80 Irene NYC  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:57:34am

re: #72 galloping granny


You didn't see the point about open burning to "celebrate" Earth Day, did you? Greenies don't think open burning is very green.

Granny,
That "smile" at the end of my post indicated that I was making fun of the greenies and their beliefs.

81 Widow'smight  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:58:07am

re: #49 BabbaZee

Seems to me there are many "Scientific Geniuses" here in LGF waiting in the wings ready to Condescend from on high on those with different views, putting them in their stupid places with some very harsh words.
The interenet allows you to abuse very nice folks without any real facts your line of thinking is valid and without worry of having some Widow's-like man kick your f--in ass for pissing on a lady.

You're not a man when you do that, you're a coward.

I've also noticed the differences between said folks and moonbats/Islamists are very few, maybe that's why they act the same when their holy sacrements has been challenged.

82 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:58:34am

Gotta go wake up the Republicans that I live with...

Good day, ALL!™

83 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:58:48am

re: #76 BabbaZee

Romans : 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

84 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:59:41am

Got to run--take care and God bless us, every one!

85 MrMom  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:59:49am

re: #78 BabbaZee

"Most excellent" lizards (heh)....I know you're not dull.
[Link: www.biblegateway.com...]
Back when I can. Have a great day all. I love and miss you and remember you in my prayers.

86 Widow'smight  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:00:20am

re: #64 littleoldlady

Great! Don't have to water those perty plants I got in the mail thanks to the Climate change on Sunday. Going out to Pittsburgh this weekend to see my Baby and watch the Phillies.

How's your Princess doing without you to butt up against?

87 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:00:56am

re: #81 Widow'smight

They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast.
~ Revelation 17:13

88 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:01:09am

re: #85 MrMom

"Most excellent" lizards (heh)....I know you're not dull.
[Link: www.biblegateway.com...]
Back when I can. Have a great day all. I love and miss you and remember you in my prayers.

Back at ye

89 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:01:21am

re: #83 storagemanager

144,000 updings

90 Irene NYC  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:01:58am

BabbaZee, granny, et. al.,

Our own Ghagdad Bob has always been eloquent on the subject at his website onecosmos. Certainly one of the web's worthier endeavors.

91 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:02:33am

re: #90 Irene NYC

Bob is a genius, I love him, always have.

92 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:03:15am

re: #79 goddessoftheclassroom

You are so right. I almost got into a heated argument at a very genteel women's club meeting about changing our association's stance from requiring "an affirmation in belief in God" to "an affirmation fo spirituality." Fortunately, even grander dames than I smacked down the waffly moonbat, and we stood by our traditions.

The Girl Scouts has changed it. You would not even recognize the GS Promise or Laws these days. And I think the motto is long, long gone.

93 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:05:50am

re: #80 Irene NYC

Granny,
That "smile" at the end of my post indicated that I was making fun of the greenies and their beliefs.

My apologies then Irene. I am a cranky *itch before I have had coffee & aspirin.

94 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:05:59am
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice criticized former US President, Jimmy Carter once again for his meetings with Hamas leaders in Gaza and Damascus, saying Carter has been explicitly warned not to meet with the Hamas. (AP)

That's her job... [Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

95 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:07:14am

Speaking of Stan Sponsored Divide and Conquer:


#745 BabbaZee

re: #738 Spiny Norman

The God-botherers have given zombie, of all people, the bum's rush?

Unfuckingbelievable.

Maybe I should try to get him/her to start posting at Hot Air or Protein Wisdom.

Bullshit.
People disagreed with Zombie.
This is a fucking mind crime now?
This is not even close to being the the same as "running Zombie off".
Did you read the thread?
Where are the posts where the "God People" gave Zombie the "bum's rush?"
Zombie was very harsh to people on the Ben Stein thread and mostly this attitude was not returned.
Bums rush my ass
People have actually tried to run me off here in the past.
So I know the difference.

96 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:07:41am
New museum with Temple replica to be erected opposite Western Wall. Project’s sponsors include actors Kirk, Michael Douglas

Ofer Petersburg Published: 04.22.08, 13:47 / Israel Jewish Scene


A grandiose museum featuring an elaborated massive replica of the Temple is currently being erected opposite the Western Wall.

The three-storey museum, whose construction is valued at nearly $20 million will be erected in the Aish HaTorah ("Fire of the Torah") Yeshiva complex. The museum will feature a journey through Jewish history, from the days of Abraham to the present, emphasizing the message and significance of the Jewish people’s presence in the Land of Israel and their degree of accomplishment in world improvement.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

97 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:07:41am

re: #77 LeftJustAintRight

In honor of Earth Day all liberals should stop breathing for 15 minutes to help the environment !

That would make a definite, measurable, negative adjustment to the level of "greenhouse gases" in the environment.

98 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:08:08am
#739 realwest 4/21/08 10:33:03 pm reply quote report 3

re: #738 Spiny Norman
The "God-botherers"?! Not sure who it is your talking about.
Zombie made some points that perhaps some moonbats could be persuaded to come over to the Anti-Jihad side if they didn't have to "side along" with religious fundamentalists.
Some people - not all of whom are religious or religous fundamentalists - disagreed with zombie.
Zombie said she felt unwanted here and wouldn't be posting at LGF for "a while". No one here asked zombie to leave or to not post out here.
In fact, quite to the contrary a LOT of us asked zombie not to leave or at least dinged up posts that asked zombie not to leave.
So if zombie does leave, it will be his/her decision alone to make.

99 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:09:08am

re: #95 BabbaZee

Me too...you were one of the few..who spoke for me.

100 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:10:01am

I took today off work...yipee!
To get my timing belt on my car fixed...groan.

101 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:11:40am

re: #96 storagemanager

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Now that is very, very interesting storage.

102 Widow'smight  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:11:52am

re: #91 BabbaZee

Since neither can be proved, I'll stick for the most logical choice.

Let them make up another unbelievable answer to simple, logical questions. I really think this is one of their ways to feel more distinct from us Fundites. They have no idea we're all definately distinct from each other to begin with.

Me, well I can play my throat like Curlie on the stooges. And some other things.

103 BlueCanuck  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:11:59am

Well time to sign off, paper work just doubled on me here. :p

Have fun folks and when things are at the darkest just think. . . .PUPPIES. :)

*giggle*

104 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:12:06am

re: #99 storagemanager

Me too...you were one of the few..who spoke for me.

{Storage}

Because we get our information from the same source

LOL

105 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:15:02am

re: #102 Widow'smight

It's all BS

also
IMO the "fundies" are on the other foot.
Their FAITH in Random Nothing is remarkable.

LOL

Where "Religion" and "Science" do not disdain each other.

106 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:15:11am

re: #104 BabbaZee

{Storage}

Because we get our information from the same source

LOL


( BabbaZee ) you have the gift.

107 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:16:23am

re: #106 storagemanager

[blush]

We all have gifts.

You do have to walk in the way for them to be revealed to you and manifested through you though....

108 Irene NYC  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:16:25am

re: #93 galloping granny

Well, granny, there's certainly enough sh*t going on in the world to make even the best cranky at times. So, we're all in good company.
{Extra strong coffee on its way!}

109 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:17:41am

re: #101 galloping granny

PLEASE
Remind me to send you an e-mail regarding "60" and the Temple

110 Widow'smight  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:17:57am

re: #105 BabbaZee

Added that to my favorites to read at another time, thanks.

111 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:17:58am
Will Muhammad image ignite holy war?
'Why We Left Islam' 1st American book to picture 'prophet' on cover

[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

112 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:19:51am

re: #110 Widow'smight

That's some deep stuff in there , LOL

113 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:24:30am
Muslim Leaders Want Mecca to Be Center of World Time Zones
April 22nd, 2008

...

another king will arise (The Antichrist)... He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time. - Daniel 7:24,25

[Link: www.joels-trumpet.com...]

114 hayseed  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:24:47am

good morning all protocols elders of zion.this ones funny

115 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:25:23am

re: #114 hayseed

I post that one all the time too LOL

116 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:26:07am

Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?

(show of hands, please)

117 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:27:19am

Are you dumb hicks still clinging to your religion?

118 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:28:10am

re: #116 Occasional Reader

Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?

(show of hands, please)

119 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:28:17am

re: #17 BabbaZee

Hillary. Given a choice beteen voting for Obama and voting for Hillary, I would even vote for Hillary.

Somewhere she is laughing her ass off

That's the whole point of OBAMA
he is SUPPOSED to make her look acceptable

He sure makes her look less like a Marxist, doesn't he?

Zackly! Their monster has gotten away from them, but it doesn't change what I think is Obama's political origin. Hillary ran to the center around three years ago. The only way she could do that is if she had an inflatable lefty bogeyman to suck up all the oxygen on her left during the primaries. Then pop his balloon (leaving the far left with only her to vote for) to get the nomination, while remaining positioned in the center to pick up the voters Obama never could. Additionally, she gets to say that she was always in the center.

The problem is that now, if she beats Obama, his fevered acolytes will revile her, and stay home in droves. Mitt Romney knows this math--that's why he committed himself to John McCain as soon as it became extremely unlikely that he would secure the nomination. Republicans will have gotten over it by the general election, while the Democrats will be staggering around in the dust of their ruined organization.

Go Hillary!

120 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:28:21am

re: #117 Occasional Reader

Are you dumb hicks still clinging to your religion?

Ahyup

lol

121 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:28:45am

Took my mowers to the shop..long days ahead.

122 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:29:11am

re: #119 haakondahl

HAAAAAAAAK!

;~}

123 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:29:52am

Me, I'm clinging to my boarding pass, and off to the last segment in you homeward-bound travels. Happy trails.

124 hayseed  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:29:58am

re: #115 BabbaZee

I was over at mpacuk this morning and some guy named brightray was posting some shit about the protocols. the Muslims on that board smacked him down so fast his head spun. it was a Muslim on Muslim smack down

125 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:30:07am

re: #109 BabbaZee

PLEASE
Remind me to send you an e-mail regarding "60" and the Temple

I'm reminding you :)

126 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:38:24am

I stayed out of the whole evolution/creation debate for two reasons:
1) the thread was already at 1500+ posts when I first saw it, and
2) such debates tend to be arguments rather than careful consideration of each other's views.

My own beliefs are:

God created the heavens and the earth, everything visible and invisible.

How He went about it is a mystery. The account in the first book of the Bible or Torah is in my opinion a symbolic story. The story is not false, nor a lie, but it does not give specific details or facts. In Moses' time (circa 1200 BCE), a science textbook explanation of creation would have been largely incomprehensible. In our own time, if we were given precise details of what happened, we probably wouldn't understand it any better. So we are given a broad symbolic synopsis of what took place.

If Stein butchered science and manipulated evidence to try to prove his point, he was was disingenuous and foolish.

127 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:44:03am

Posting is going to be a problem today..I see.

128 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:45:11am

[Link: fallbacklgf.blogspot.com...]

I put a thread up
couldn't get in for the last 5 -10 minutes or so

129 hayseed  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:46:30am

what we have here is a failure to communicate

130 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:47:21am

I opened the door to that thread, and was overwhelmed by the odor emanating from it. I wouldn't touch that with a 10 meter cattle prod. Maybe a moratorium on that subject for a bit.

131 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:48:29am

re: #127 storagemanager

Posting is going to be a problem today..I see.

Me too. Had to close and re-open.

132 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:48:32am

re: #128 BabbaZee

[Link: fallbacklgf.blogspot.com...]

I put a thread up
couldn't get in for the last 5 -10 minutes or so

I hope it is better than the chick puking...didn't care for that.

133 Irene NYC  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:49:09am

hayseed,

thanks for the Protocols link - hadn't seen it before.

134 Widow'smight  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:49:33am

re: #121 storagemanager

Right now, I have to jump my Lawn Tractor off my Truck. I Zink I neets a new Battry. I zink, zerfore I am

135 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:49:47am

re: #132 storagemanager

I hope it is better than the chick puking...didn't care for that.

I did not put that up

Karridine did

136 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:50:07am

re: #130 rightside

I opened the door to that thread, and was overwhelmed by the odor emanating from it. I wouldn't touch that with a 10 meter cattle prod. Maybe a moratorium on that subject for a bit.

But what about the rapidly evolving Lizards?

[ducks]

/suspected subtle comment from Lizard-In-Chief.

137 BulgarWheat  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:50:37am

re: #130 rightside

Lots of gamey lizard buttock, blood and entrails all over the floor......

shoot, you think that was bad you ought to come to one of my hill-billy family reunions.

Good morning, Lizards!

138 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:50:48am
Is it down?
Storagemanager | Edit comment Delete comment | 04.22.08 - 7:42 am | #

Gravatar yes this thread makes me sick so I put a new one above LOL
BabbaZee | Edit comment Delete comment | Email | Homepage | 04.22.08 - 7:51 am | #

139 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:50:52am

Good morning, all...

Well, I'm at comment #1750 (of 2,332 so far) in the Expelled Exposed thread. Is it worth plowing through the rest, or more of the same the rest of the way through? Inquiring lizard wants to know!

140 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:51:04am

re: #136 haakondahl

But what about the rapidly evolving Lizards?

[ducks]

/suspected subtle comment from Lizard-In-Chief.

Gee what FORCE sped them up?

141 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:51:16am

re: #139 christheprofessor

nope

142 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:51:35am

re: #137 BulgarWheat

{BULGARITY!}

143 BulgarWheat  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:52:59am

re: #142 BabbaZee

Mornin' Babba. Down in sunny Florida.

I need to run into the customer site here in a few minutes.

144 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:53:08am

I love the fact that Hillary said she would nuke Iran...after Iran nuked Israel...thats her idea of standing with Israel.

145 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:53:19am

BZ

"Nope" to "worth plowing through" or "Nope" to "more of the same?" (I suspect the former)...

146 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:54:22am

re: #145 christheprofessor

BZ

"Nope" to "worth plowing through" or "Nope" to "more of the same?" (I suspect the former)...

Nope to plowing through more of the same BS

147 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:54:34am

re: #140 BabbaZee

Gee what FORCE sped them up?


You've gone Jedi on us?

148 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:54:45am

re: #144 storagemanager

I love the fact that Hillary said she would nuke Iran...after Iran nuked Israel...thats her idea of standing with Israel.

That seems to be GWB's idea of it too

149 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:55:04am

re: #147 Occasional Reader

re: #140 BabbaZee
Gee what FORCE sped them up?

You've gone Jedi on us?

Traitor!

150 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:55:14am

re: #147 Occasional Reader

You've gone Jedi on us?

Oh HELL no.

LOL

151 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:56:21am

re: #136 haakondahl

HaHa!

re: #137 BulgarWheat

Lots of gamey lizard buttock, blood and entrails all over the floor......

shoot, you think that was bad you ought to come to one of my hill-billy family reunions.

Good morning, Lizards!

Good morning Bulgar, I was thinking more along the lines of I wouldn't have had much to add to that thread, intellectually speaking. A man's got to know his limitations.

152 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:56:23am

re: #144 storagemanager

I love the fact that Hillary said she would nuke Iran...after Iran nuked Israel...thats her idea of standing with Israel.

I thought that she just said that we were able to annihilate Iran (something which should be beyond debate, given the size of our nuclear arsenal) if they attacked Israel... The quote I saw did not say that we would, just that we could.

153 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:56:38am

re: #130 rightside

I opened the door to that thread, and was overwhelmed by the odor emanating from it. I wouldn't touch that with a 10 meter cattle prod. Maybe a moratorium on that subject for a bit.

lgf has refused to allow other topics to be discussed in the past—at least until everyone was willing to discuss calmly and civilly their opinions. I think that this topic might be suitable for a moratorium, too.

154 BulgarWheat  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:57:08am

re: #151 rightside

"a man's gotta know his limitations..."

one of my favorite Dirty Harry quotes.

155 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:57:39am

Welcome to the book of revelation.

Someone from our Feral Remnant Department will be with you in a moment.

Please hold.


Pope genuflects before UN


Coverage of the United Nations speech by Pope Benedict XVI was extremely lacking in critical analysis. None of the stories that Accuracy in Media surveyed in the major newspapers alluded to the fact that while the Pope had just finished apologizing for the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal in several U.S. appearances, his speech to the U.N. ignored the history of rapes of women and children committed by its so-called military “peacekeepers.” This has been a major U.N. scandal for years.

The Pope met with American victims of mostly homosexual Catholic priests, but said nothing about the victims of the U.N.

A Danish documentary, “And the U.N. Came,” blames U.N. troops for creating the AIDS crisis in Cambodia. The film documents how U.N. soldiers spread the disease by having sex with local citizens, children, and prostitutes. Asked about the conduct of U.N. soldiers, one U.N. official is shown saying, “Boys will be boys.”

Instead of addressing this scandal, Benedict called on the flawed and corrupt body to exercise a military doctrine known as the “Responsibility to Protect” people in trouble. This is one part of the speech that made news. It means the Vatican has endorsed the concept of the U.N. acquiring more power and influence, including of a military nature. Our media failed to point out that, generally speaking, the U.N. is considered incompetent or worse in military affairs. The 1994 Rwanda genocide, carried out under the noses of U.N. officials and peacekeepers, is considered the most notorious example.

In another curious development, at least for Catholics, Benedict ignored the world body’s devotion to population control through abortion and said that “My presence at this [U.N. General] Assembly is a sign of esteem for the United Nations, and it is intended to express the hope that the Organization will increasingly serve as a sign of unity between States and an instrument of service to the entire human family.”

[SNIP]

156 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:57:50am

re: #146 BabbaZee

Thanks. It was getting old, after all...

Desperately want to get up and get another mug of coffee, but the Puppinator is sleeping up against me and I don't want to disturb her...

157 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:58:18am
158 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:59:06am

re: #156 christheprofessor

but the Puppinator is sleeping up against me and I don't want to disturb her...


I have gotten cramps like that....

LOL

159 BulgarWheat  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:59:23am

re: #155 BabbaZee

Hi, my name is Bulgar and I'll be your Feral Remnant host this morning.

gotta head over to the customer site. be back later on.

160 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:59:38am

re: #156 christheprofessor

It carried on in the Robert Spencer thread too

161 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:59:46am

re: #159 BulgarWheat

MWAH

162 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:00:14am

re: #152 JamesTKirk

I thought that she just said that we were able to annihilate Iran (something which should be beyond debate, given the size of our nuclear arsenal) if they attacked Israel... The quote I saw did not say that we would, just that we could.

Clinton warns Iran of U.S. nuclear response
Senator: ‘Massive retaliation’ for attack on Israel would likely include NATO [Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

163 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:00:35am

re: #154 BulgarWheat

"a man's gotta know his limitations..."

one of my favorite Dirty Harry quotes.


"Well, we're not just going to let you walk out of here..."

"Who's we, sucka?"

"Me....and Smith....and Wesson.."

164 Widow'smight  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:00:36am

re: #156 christheprofessor

You must really be nice to your wimmin friends, right?

165 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:01:18am

re: #153 David IV of Georgia

I suppose I'm lucky that my computer gags whenever threads get over 700 comments or so. Meanwhile, will everyone who has had their fundamental religious beliefs changed in an argument on the internet please raise your hands? I'm counting...well...

166 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:01:40am

re: #158 BabbaZee

re: #160 BabbaZee

"Heh!" to #158 and "Doh!" to # 160....

167 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:01:50am

re: #144 storagemanager

I love the fact that Hillary said she would nuke Iran...after Iran nuked Israel...thats her idea of standing with Israel.

Unfortunately, I think that some Iranians in charge might think that this would be a fair trade. Be on the watch for entire Iranian cabinet and military brass relocating to some Indonesian jungle. (Just because they think it's a fair trade doesn't mean they want to die.)

168 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:02:13am

re: #162 storagemanager

OK, that's a different article than the one I'd seen.

169 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:02:25am

re: #164 Widow'smight

I am when I have one -- right now, I batchin' it, though... :(

170 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:02:57am

Gyuuud evening, all!

171 Irish Rose  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:04:39am

Not much time to post today as I have workshops to attend... but I wanted to stop in and say good morning to you, Lizards.

Michael Moore provides a perfect illustration why the Donk party is FUBAR:


LOS ANGELES — Michael Moore wants voters in Pennsylvania to cast their ballots for Barack Obama. Moore endorsed Obama in a 1,100-word posting on his Web site Monday. It includes praise for the Illinois senator and harsh words for Hillary Rodham Clinton, the Democratic Party and the Bush administration.

Lamenting the lack of a valid primary in his home state of Michigan, Moore writes that Obama’s experience and voting record aren’t as important as his “basic decency” and ability to inspire.

“What we are witnessing is not just a candidate but a profound, massive public movement for change,” Moore writes. “My endorsement is more for Obama The Movement than it is for Obama the candidate.”

He supports the GlowBama movement because he's been pummeled senseless, the poor man:

“I, like the majority of Americans, have been pummeled senseless for eight long years,” he writes. “That’s why I will join millions of citizens and stagger into the voting booth come November, like a boxer in the 12th round, all bloodied and bruised with one eye swollen shut, looking for the only thing that matters — that big ‘D’ on the ballot.”

/idiot

172 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:05:07am

re: #167 David IV of Georgia

Indonesian jungle?

Well...we are right next door... ;)

174 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:06:24am
WASHINGTON (AFP-EJP)---Democratic White House contender Barack Obama could not hide his irritation Monday when asked by a reporter what he thought about former president Jimmy Carter's meeting with Hamas last week.

"Why can't I just eat my waffle?" the Illinois senator said as he ate breakfast in Scranton, Pennsylvania, according to MSNBC television pictures.

Pressed again for an answer, he replied: "Just let me eat my waffle."

A true leader of the people. [Link: www.ejpress.org...]

175 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:06:24am

re: #165 Pullus Iulius

exactly.

176 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:06:40am

re: #171 Irish Rose

I've been pummeled senseless for the past eight years, but not because of Republicans. Though it was in part to that rich [expletive deleted] who got me kicked outta high school, but enough flashbacks. >__>

177 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:07:08am

re: #174 storagemanager

A true leader of the people. [Link: www.ejpress.org...]

That's a good one, considering the significance of "waffle" to Dem candidates...

178 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:07:19am

re: #174 storagemanager

"Conflicting Declarations from Carter and Hamas"

/a big, flashing headline with article time on CNN International earlier today...

179 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:07:41am

re: #174 storagemanager

Sounds like he's, um, waffling to me... ;)

180 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:07:43am

re: #144 storagemanager

I love the fact that Hillary said she would nuke Iran...after Iran nuked Israel...thats her idea of standing with Israel.

She didn't say she would obliterate them...she said we could obliterate them. Big difference. Hell, we could obliterate them right now.

181 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:07:55am

re: #176 laZardo

I've been pummeled senseless for the past eight years, but not because of Republicans. Though it was in part to that rich [expletive deleted] who got me kicked outta high school, but enough flashbacks. >__>

Could Mikey Moore really have been beaten senseless, without having had some sense in the first place?

182 yochanan  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:08:17am

re: #10 Pro-Bush Canuck

I suspect the average Lizard would be happier (less anguished?) with Hillary than with Obama "Saddam" Hussain...

i disagree with hillary on a lot of things and would not vote for her but i do have a clue what she whould do if iran were to attack israel, OBAMA SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME, and even my non political wife who is mostly a democrat out of habit worries a lot about obama. She clearly isn't the only jewish voter out there with the same fears.

183 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:08:30am

re: #173 BabbaZee

Uncredible!

184 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:08:34am

Sorry, Kirk, you beat me to the punch. Damn. You. James. Kirk. Daaaammmnnnn Youuuuuuu Kirrrrkkkkkkk!

185 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:08:48am
186 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:09:29am

re: #184 bikermailman

Sorry, Kirk, you beat me to the punch. Damn. You. James. Kirk. Daaaammmnnnn Youuuuuuu Kirrrrkkkkkkk!

[Link: i75.photobucket.com...]

187 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:10:26am

re: #171 Irish Rose

Not much time to post today as I have workshops to attend... but I wanted to stop in and say good morning to you, Lizards.

Michael Moore provides a perfect illustration why the Donk party is FUBAR:

/idiot

This is news how? :P

188 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:10:42am

re: #186 JamesTKirk

ROTFF!

189 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:10:53am

re: #180 bikermailman

She didn't say she would obliterate them...she said we could obliterate them. Big difference. Hell, we could obliterate them right now.

ok..here we go again..........

Clinton warns Iran of U.S. nuclear response
Senator: ‘Massive retaliation’ for attack on Israel would likely include NATO

Pretty clear to me... [Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

190 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:11:01am

re: #181 JamesTKirk

Barring the logical redundancy of that question...I'm not sure.

191 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:11:01am

re: #186 JamesTKirk

[Link: i75.photobucket.com...]

LOL I thought you were going to get a picture of Khan shaking his fist.

192 Widow'smight  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:11:31am

re: #169 christheprofessor

If/when you find the right lady, hope the dog still thinks you da man!

I must go, enjoy this beautiful Climate Change.

193 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:11:52am

re: #174 storagemanager

A true leader of the people. [Link: www.ejpress.org...]

Waffles redeux...

194 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:12:29am

re: #190 laZardo

Maaaatt Daaaaaaaaamon

195 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:13:31am
196 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:13:44am
197 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:13:48am

Good morning all. Yet another beautiful mid-70s day on the rise.

Obama's waffling? Pass the syrup!

198 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:14:02am

re: #189 storagemanager

Pretty clear to me... [Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

Again, coulda and if... She's trying to shore up the Jewish vote, which already has problems with Obama. She's trying to make everyone forget her kissy-face with Arafat's wife.

199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:14:12am

re: #191 bikermailman

Me too. Hi guys!

200 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:14:30am

re: #185 BabbaZee

Morning LaZee

I see we are back.

201 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:14:41am

re: #197 Lucius Septimius

Good morning all. Yet another beautiful mid-70s day on the rise.

Obama's waffling? Pass the syrup!


John F'ing Kerry has passed the syrup decanter!

202 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:14:56am

re: #196 rightside

Khannnnnnn!

Khaaan!

203 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:15:12am

re: #200 galloping granny

I see we are back.

For now it seems we are

204 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:15:37am

re: #198 bikermailman

Again, coulda and if... She's trying to shore up the Jewish vote, which already has problems with Obama. She's trying to make everyone forget her kissy-face with Arafat's wife.

Your missing my point...she would attack Iran...after Israel is nuked...no help before...that was my point.

205 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:15:50am

re: #198 bikermailman

Again, coulda and if... She's trying to shore up the Jewish vote, which already has problems with Obama. She's trying to make everyone forget her kissy-face with Arafat's wife.

We know the true face of Hillary.

206 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:16:20am

re: #192 Widow'smight

Thanks -- take care, buddy....

207 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:16:25am

re: #205 JamesTKirk

P'[expletive deleted]

208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:16:28am

I have far to travel today, but will be on later. Keep it real, keep it fresh, keep it Obama. Pray for Chaos.

209 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:16:43am

re: #174 storagemanager

A true leader of the people. [Link: www.ejpress.org...]

ROFLMAO! If he just wants to eat his waffle, why doesn't he order up room service?

210 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:17:15am

New avatar up -- and no, she's not doing what you might think at first glance...

211 hayseed  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:17:29am

re: #197 Lucius Septimius

Belgian waffle...I think these folks are on drugs

212 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:17:38am

re: #202 JamesTKirk

Khaaan!

Look at the background...

213 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:17:42am
214 neverquit  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:17:50am

Ya know, I was just thinking, scary huh? Why didn't anyone jump down Barack Hussein Chicago's throat for the violence in Chicago last weekend? Really? 9 homicides and 36 shootings?! I bet Baghdad was less violent over the weekend!

Where are the calls to pull the cops out of Chicago?!

While Barack Hussein Chicago is out compaigning, Chicago burns again! And I bet the Good Rev. Wright was safe and sound in his Green Zone Gated Compound!

215 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:18:08am

re: #202 JamesTKirk

Khaaan!

Now, that's funny, I don't care who ya are.

216 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:18:17am

re: #202 JamesTKirk

LOL!

217 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:18:31am

re: #174 storagemanager

If you excuse me, I'm gonna go be bitter, clinging to my guns, religion and pancakes.

218 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:18:32am

re: #172 laZardo

Indonesian jungle?

Well...we are right next door... ;)

I was trying to think if somewhere Islamic, distant from danger, and somewhere fairly easy to hide (Huge and somewhat remote).

219 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:18:55am

re: #215 bikermailman

Now, that's funny, I don't care who ya are.

I got more...

220 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:19:00am

re: #203 BabbaZee

For now it seems we are

Only temporarily for me - I may have to break down and go buy coffee. There isn't a bean in the house and diet coke just is not doing it this morning. Meanwhile, it is The Day. Found the first of the forsythia in blossom up on Garden Hill yesterday when we went up to clean up. Nephew will be here by 10, rototiller will be here before noon, seeds will be going into the garden before dinner. SPRING has arrived in Vermont!

221 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:19:22am

re: #213 BabbaZee

I'll second that...

222 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:19:24am

re: #204 storagemanager

Your missing my point...she would attack Iran...after Israel is nuked...no help before...that was my point.

Nah, I got it. I'm just saying she's including qualifiers, subtly, so she could get out of it if she wanted to. She and Obama both like to do lawyerly mind tricks.

223 doriangrey  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:20:16am

Good morning Lizards every where.....

224 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:20:24am

re: #222 bikermailman

Nah, I got it. I'm just saying she's including qualifiers, subtly, so she could get out of it if she wanted to. She and Obama both like to do lawyerly mind tricks.

It all depends on what the meaning of "nuke" is...

225 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:20:59am

re: #221 christheprofessor

It's so similar to:

I dont wanna use wade's hairbrush thing !

226 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:21:25am

re: #220 galloping granny

Only temporarily for me - I may have to break down and go buy coffee. There isn't a bean in the house and diet coke just is not doing it this morning. Meanwhile, it is The Day. Found the first of the forsythia in blossom up on Garden Hill yesterday when we went up to clean up. Nephew will be here by 10, rototiller will be here before noon, seeds will be going into the garden before dinner. SPRING has arrived in Vermont!

Heh. My daffodils were through blooming six weeks ago. We're cooling off today. Only 87.

227 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:21:27am

re: #224 JamesTKirk

It all depends on what the meaning of "nuke" is...

Heh. She's gonna microwave them? ;)

228 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:21:36am

re: #219 JamesTKirk

OMFG that is so funny!

229 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:21:39am

I'm off to the auto mechanic...sigh.
$$$$$$$$
Why can't rich people pay for my car repairs? I feel victimized.

230 sparrowlake  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:21:53am

Good morning lizards.
As a relative newbie (just under 5 months) I was amazed yesterday to see the outpouring of affection for zombie and the amount of begging and beseeching that followed zombie's rather petulantly announced intention to temporarily withdraw from posting at LGF. This is a truly remarkable blog site.
I took zombie's main point (leaving aside the emotional and personal stuff) to be essentially a basic tactical question about how best to try to "convert" moonbats to the anti-Islamofascist cause. I think that was a valid issue to raise, and I would be interested to know:
1. Whether lizards think it is even possible that moonbats would be prepared to adopt the anti-Islamofascist cause; and,
2. If so, then whether lizards would welcome to LGF those modified moonbat "converts" who remained complete and utter moonbats in every other way except for their newfound anti-Islamofascism.

231 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:21:59am

Morning Dorian!

232 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:22:02am

re: #225 BabbaZee

It's so similar to:

I dont wanna use wade's hairbrush thing !

I'm unfamiliar with that... :(

233 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:23:07am

re: #229 David IV of Georgia

Don't forget your guns and religion before you leave. (:

234 doriangrey  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:23:14am

re: #220 galloping granny

Only temporarily for me - I may have to break down and go buy coffee. There isn't a bean in the house and diet coke just is not doing it this morning. Meanwhile, it is The Day. Found the first of the forsythia in blossom up on Garden Hill yesterday when we went up to clean up. Nephew will be here by 10, rototiller will be here before noon, seeds will be going into the garden before dinner. SPRING has arrived in Vermont!

Doh..............I sooo know the feeling, went to make my coffee this morning and found just barely enough to make a pot, I surely do wish people would let me know when we are running out....Especially when they know I am going to the store to get cream and sugar and tasty flavorings for my coffee...

235 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:23:22am

re: #228 rightside

OMFG that is so funny!

Khaaaan!

Khaaaan!

236 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:24:26am

re: #230 sparrowlake

Good morning lizards.
As a relative newbie (just under 5 months) I was amazed yesterday to see the outpouring of affection for zombie and the amount of begging and beseeching that followed zombie's rather petulantly announced intention to temporarily withdraw from posting at LGF. This is a truly remarkable blog site.
I took zombie's main point (leaving aside the emotional and personal stuff) to be essentially a basic tactical question about how best to try to "convert" moonbats to the anti-Islamofascist cause. I think that was a valid issue to raise, and I would be interested to know:
1. Whether lizards think it is even possible that moonbats would be prepared to adopt the anti-Islamofascist cause; and,
2. If so, then whether lizards would welcome to LGF those modified moonbat "converts" who remained complete and utter moonbats in every other way except for their newfound anti-Islamofascism.

As to your 1, most won't I guess. They don't care that gays are hanged, blacks are slaughtered, and women are subjugated and mutilated. Those are the three big identity groups. 2? Yeah, I'd accept them, welcome them home, and work on the other things as they stay here.

237 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:24:42am

re: #235 JamesTKirk


Stop! you're killing me here!

My coworkers are ready to call for an ambulance!

238 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:25:02am

re: #230 sparrowlake

I missed that. Can you please point me to it?

239 Grammy Cracker  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:25:16am

Good Morning, Lizards! How are we all doin' this fine day?

Today's weather report from Michigan, via the 80's....

/what the hell were we thinking with those clothes? GACK!

240 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:25:18am

re: #235 JamesTKirk

Khaaaan!

Khaaaan!

You've got a million of em! ha cha cha

241 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:25:26am

re: #230 sparrowlake

I would be interested to know:
1. Whether lizards think it is even possible that moonbats would be prepared to adopt the anti-Islamofascist cause; and,
2. If so, then whether lizards would welcome to LGF those modified moonbat "converts" who remained complete and utter moonbats in every other way except for their newfound anti-Islamofascism.

Sparrowlake, once you've hung around a while you will discover that many of us - perhaps most - were once moonbats ourselves. Transformation from moonbat to sanity is an individual process. No, of course moonbats are not prepared to adopt the anti-jihadi cause. If they were they would not be moonbats.

242 doriangrey  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:25:35am

re: #229 David IV of Georgia

I'm off to the auto mechanic...sigh.
$$$$$$$$
Why can't rich people pay for my car repairs? I feel victimized.

Oh I'm there with ya brother...


re: #231 rightside

Morning Dorian!

Good morning rightside...I hope you are feeling well this morning.

243 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:26:30am

re: #237 rightside

Stop! you're killing me here!

My coworkers are ready to call for an ambulance!

Khaaaan!

244 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:27:08am

re: #230 sparrowlake

{Sparrow}

245 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:27:12am

re: #242 doriangrey


I'm laughing my ass off with JamesTKirks Khan pics! ROFL!

How are you?

246 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:27:34am

Besides... My brother used to be a rock ribbed conservative. Now, he was going for Paul, now he's turned to Obama. Moonbat new!

247 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:27:42am

re: #241 galloping granny

I'm happy to say I've been conservative all of my life (probably a function of my conservative, WW2-veteran father's influence). Hell, in college, one of my buds told me that I was just to the right of Atilla the Hun... ;)

248 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:28:03am

re: #234 doriangrey

Doh..............I sooo know the feeling, went to make my coffee this morning and found just barely enough to make a pot, I surely do wish people would let me know when we are running out....Especially when they know I am going to the store to get cream and sugar and tasty flavorings for my coffee...

I would be very angry if I went to the store for cream and sugar and tasty flavorings and came to find that there was no coffee.

249 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:28:09am

re: #232 christheprofessor

It was a fit Edwards or Kerry had in 04

I DONT WANNA USE WADES HAIRBRUSH

I think it was Edwards

anyway it rotates here since then

250 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:28:16am

re: #243 JamesTKirk

He's still in great shape! LOL

251 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:28:37am
"I call upon the jihadist generation in Lebanon to prepare to reach Palestine, and to banish the invading Crusader forces which are claimed to be peace keeping forces in Lebanon," Zawahiri said in reference to the UN forces deployed along the borders with Israel.

He also used the two-and-a-half hour message to urge Muslims to join militant groups, mainly in Iraq, where he claimed that the insurgency against the Iraqi government and the U.S.-led coalition forces is bearing fruit.


Turning his ire on Hamas, he said the Palestinian group's reported willingness to hold a referendum on any peace deal with Israel flew in the face of Sharia, or Islamic, law.

[Link: www.alarabiya.net...]

252 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:29:27am

re: #250 rightside

He's still in great shape! LOL

And how do I stay in shape?

253 ec marm  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:29:53am

re: #230 sparrowlake
I enjoy the point/counterpoint aspect of LGF. But when someone suggests that some group should be tossed under the bus to appease moonbats, my feathers get ruffled.
I've lived with unruly, know-it-all teenagers, which is my opinion of moonbats, and the last thing they need is to be coddled and catered to. Reward their bad behavior and you'll just get even more of the same.
That wasn't a trial balloon that was floated, that was a lead balloon.

254 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:30:35am

re: #247 christheprofessor

I'm happy to say I've been conservative all of my life (probably a function of my conservative, WW2-veteran father's influence). Hell, in college, one of my buds told me that I was just to the right of Atilla the Hun... ;)

Ditto, and my time in the academy has only confirmed my sensibilities.

Sometimes I think I went into my particular line of work so that I could be surrounded by people I don't agree with; same reason my paelocon uncle moved to Berkeley.

255 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:30:49am

re: #247 christheprofessor

I'm happy to say I've been conservative all of my life (probably a function of my conservative, WW2-veteran father's influence). Hell, in college, one of my buds told me that I was just to the right of Atilla the Hun... ;)

I have been conservative about some things and fairly liberal when it comes to others. I have always, however, been quite far to the right of what presents today as the "centrist" Democrat party and consider "liberal" Democrats to be nothing short of a pack of Communists.

256 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:30:49am

Actually, the 'peace' would be in alignment with sharia. They are allowed to make up to a ten year treaty, if they're on the run. For the purpose of regrouping and rearming. Then, when they are back to strength, they are commanded to break the truce. Or at the end of ten years, whichever comes first. Ah, the good holy book...instructions on how to wage war, and have sexual relations.

257 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:31:12am

re: #229 David IV of Georgia

I'm off to the auto mechanic...sigh.
$$$$$$$$
Why can't rich people pay for my car repairs? I feel victimized.

What really chaps my ass is the way they build cars now such that once cannot even fix the simplest thing at home. My neighbor had her tail light go out. She couldn't get it out, so she took it to a garage. They couldn't get it out, so she called a dealer. She had to take it back to the dealer (and get charged confiscatory rates) in order to fix it. That oughta be criminal!

258 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:32:00am

re: #249 BabbaZee

Ah, thanks. I don't recall seeing that one rotate...

259 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:32:18am

re: #254 Lucius Septimius

Ditto, and my time in the academy has only confirmed my sensibilities.

Sometimes I think I went into my particular line of work so that I could be surrounded by people I don't agree with; same reason my paelocon uncle moved to Berkeley.

You must have a masochistic streak as wide as the Grand Canyon!

260 ec marm  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:33:00am

re: #238 christheprofessor

I missed that. Can you please point me to it?

Starting with number 26:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

261 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:33:03am

re: #255 galloping granny

I have been conservative about some things and fairly liberal when it comes to others. I have always, however, been quite far to the right of what presents today as the "centrist" Democrat party and consider "liberal" Democrats to be nothing short of a pack of Communists.

We're going down England's road. The Republicans are becoming Democrats, and the Dems are becoming socialists.

262 Roger  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:33:30am

re: #257 christheprofessor

It goes to show which engineers/designers get a pat on the head.

263 sparrowlake  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:33:37am

re: #244 BabbaZee

LOL. Would it be OK if I just served desert?

264 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:33:39am

re: #252 JamesTKirk

I just found out recently, that Uhura despised him!

265 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:34:01am

re: #259 galloping granny

You must have a masochistic streak as wide as the Grand Canyon!

No, I'm just a contrarian.

At a recent faculty meeting I was told to sit in the back because I'm a trouble-maker. Of course I was told this by the biggest trouble-maker of them all, the most senior member of the faculty, so it was an honor.

I'm an official member now of the Cranky Coalition.

266 opnion  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:34:02am

re: #182 yochanan

i disagree with hillary on a lot of things and would not vote for her but i do have a clue what she whould do if iran were to attack israel, OBAMA SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME, and even my non political wife who is mostly a democrat out of habit worries a lot about obama. She clearly isn't the only jewish voter out there with the same fears.

Good Morning all. Sadly., that is where we are. While .I believe that McCain is the less evil of the three lessers , the country may go Democrat.
Hillary is a wench with a pathological affinity for lying & greed as well as some pretty fa left ideas.
At the end of the day though , she is more main stream than Barry and she does not hate her country.
Obama to me on the other hand seems both incompetent & frightening.
There is nothing about him that he has ever said or written , that I know of,that expresses any allegiance to this country.
If you can judge a man by the company that he keeps, Barry has problems.

267 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:34:22am

Okay kids, off to the salt mines. Y'all have a great day!

268 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:34:29am

re: #261 bikermailman

We're going down England's road. The Republicans are becoming Democrats, and the Dems are becoming socialists.

bikermailman, the Dems have been socialists for quite some many years now. At least decades. They are becoming Communists, pure and simple, with the party faithful as the future Politburo.

269 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:34:46am

re: #267 bikermailman

Have fun with the saline.

270 doriangrey  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:35:04am

re: #230 sparrowlake

Good morning lizards.
As a relative newbie (just under 5 months) I was amazed yesterday to see the outpouring of affection for zombie and the amount of begging and beseeching that followed zombie's rather petulantly announced intention to temporarily withdraw from posting at LGF. This is a truly remarkable blog site.
I took zombie's main point (leaving aside the emotional and personal stuff) to be essentially a basic tactical question about how best to try to "convert" moonbats to the anti-Islamofascist cause. I think that was a valid issue to raise, and I would be interested to know:
1. Whether lizards think it is even possible that moonbats would be prepared to adopt the anti-Islamofascist cause; and,
2. If so, then whether lizards would welcome to LGF those modified moonbat "converts" who remained complete and utter moonbats in every other way except for their newfound anti-Islamofascism.

Sparrowlake, my experience with my fellow lizards is that in spite of the majority of them being pragmatic conservatives, they are genuinely nice understanding and compassionate people. I suspect that the vast majority of us would welcome the newly anti-jihadi moonbats with gentleness and compassion.

Yes we would attempt to teach them the errors of their moonbat ways, but I think other than occasionally reprimanding them for their outlandish and ridiculous moonbat ideas they would discover that lizards are genuinely decent caring people.

I know nothing of the thread you speak of regarding zombie, she is an incredible photo journalist and like myself I believe most lizards would be saddened to not have her around.

271 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:35:15am

re: #263 sparrowlake

LOL. Would it be OK if I just served desert?

It ain't up to me, and there are only two options available. Sadly, desert ain't one of 'em. Sorry!

;~}

272 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:35:21am

re: #264 rightside

I just found out recently, that Uhura despised him!

Most of them did, back then.

P.S. Khaaaan!

273 bikermailman  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:35:47am

re: #268 galloping granny

bikermailman, the Dems have been socialists for quite some many years now. At least decades. They are becoming Communists, pure and simple, with the party faithful as the future Politburo.

Well, in the open. The main point was, everyone is sliding to the left. The nanny state is here.

274 '  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:35:58am

re: #261 bikermailman

We're going down England's road. The Republicans are becoming Democrats, and the Dems are becoming socialists.

Australia is making a fair fist of it too.

275 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:36:07am

re: #265 Lucius Septimius


No, I'm just a contrarian.

{LUCIUS}

I'll make mince meat of your scared cows!

276 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:36:14am

re: #266 opnion


If you can judge a man by the company that he keeps, Barry has problems.

If you cannot judge a man by the company he keeps or the words out of his own mouth, there isn't much left, is there?

277 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:36:19am

re: #254 Lucius Septimius

Ditto, and my time in the academy has only confirmed my sensibilities.

Sometimes I think I went into my particular line of work so that I could be surrounded by people I don't agree with; same reason my paelocon uncle moved to Berkeley.

Agreed. I love discussing issues with my liberal colleagues as it is so easy to counter their inane positions (generally).

278 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:36:22am

re: #230 sparrowlake

I'm currently double-disillusioned with both sides of the political spectrum, actually. Only reason I'm hanging out here is probably because if I dissented from the "other" side's view on their forums, I'd end up psychologically shattered from whatever abuse might get thrown my way.

/not in the strongest of mental constitutions...

279 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:36:45am

re: #272 JamesTKirk

Ricardo Montalban es mas macho!

280 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:36:58am

re: #260 ec marm

Gracias, amigo (that's Floridian for, "Thank you, friend.").

281 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:37:37am

re: #272 JamesTKirk

Kharaoke?

282 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:38:43am

re: #277 christheprofessor

Agreed. I love discussing issues with my liberal colleagues as it is so easy to counter their inane positions (generally).

Stupidity and willful blindness annoy me beyond all belief. I admire your peseverance & fortitude.

283 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:39:25am

re: #278 laZardo

/not in the strongest of mental constitutions...

Take that back.

284 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:39:55am

re: #279 Lucius Septimius

Ricardo Montalban es mas macho!

Way more macho than the Next Generation...

285 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:40:14am

re: #277 christheprofessor

Agreed. I love discussing issues with my liberal colleagues as it is so easy to counter their inane positions (generally).

What gets me about my liberal colleagues is how superficial their judgments can be. When I had long hair, they assumed I had to be a liberal, because only liberals wear long hair. When I cut it, they decided I must have changed my political viewpoints. When it comes to teaching style, they assume that because I wear a coat and tie, I must lbe a boring ecturer and are surprised to hear that students find my classes "entertaining" -- obviously conservatives must be dull.

Amazing, really.

286 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:40:36am

re: #255 galloping granny

I have been conservative about some things and fairly liberal when it comes to others. I have always, however, been quite far to the right of what presents today as the "centrist" Democrat party and consider "liberal" Democrats to be nothing short of a pack of Communists.

There are a few liberal positions I can go along with. In general, though, I align more with traditional liberal (with is really more a contemporary conservative) positions. Hard core libs (i.e., the leftists or progressives) are truly the most illiberal people around.

287 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:40:38am
288 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:40:42am

re: #277 christheprofessor

Agreed. I love discussing issues with my liberal colleagues as it is so easy to counter their inane positions (generally).

I have to believe you are a rare minority amongst your colleagues?

289 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:41:11am

I knew a professor 25 years ago who warned me of this day.

290 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:41:36am

re: #283 BabbaZee

Hmm? I was talking about my mental constitution.

291 doriangrey  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:41:57am

re: #248 galloping granny

I would be very angry if I went to the store for cream and sugar and tasty flavorings and came to find that there was no coffee.

ROTFLMAO... I just cant find it in myself to be angry over that, a little annoyed yes, but angry never... re: #245 rightside

I'm laughing my ass off with JamesTKirks Khan pics! ROFL!

How are you?

I'm doing great this morning, watch out for that JamesTKirks, when he's not saving the universe he's trying to kill everyone with laughter...


re: #265 Lucius Septimius

No, I'm just a contrarian.

At a recent faculty meeting I was told to sit in the back because I'm a trouble-maker. Of course I was told this by the biggest trouble-maker of them all, the most senior member of the faculty, so it was an honor.

I'm an official member now of the Cranky Coalition.


Congratulations, nothing like a cranky old conservative professor...Sigh, I miss my cranky old conservative professors from collage...

292 Grammy Cracker  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:42:03am

Hey, Babba! I was listening to my new ipod (finally!) yesterday when this song came on and reminded me of you...

As you say, believe in nothing and you will surely get it. LOTS of it.

293 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:42:17am

re: #285 Lucius Septimius

I thought liberals were non-judgmental?

294 doriangrey  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:42:40am

re: #272 JamesTKirk

Most of them did, back then.

P.S. Khaaaan!

From what I have heard it was all of them, even the ones who liked him....

295 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:43:26am

re: #291 doriangrey

I'm doing great this morning, watch out for that JamesTKirks, when he's not saving the universe he's trying to kill everyone with laughter...

Who, me?

296 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:43:36am

re: #262 Roger

It goes to show which engineers/designers get a pat on the head.

Yup. The independent dealers win, as they get to charge exorbitant hourly labor rates, and the manufacturer wins, as they get to sell you an entire assembly for $75 instead of you just buying a $0.25 bulb and putting it in at home. A fucking scam.

297 opnion  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:43:45am

re: #276 galloping granny

If you cannot judge a man by the company he keeps or the words out of his own mouth, there isn't much left, is there?

Yeah, but Barry's defenders keep screaming "Guilt through association"
That is valid only to a point. Barry is way outside of normal bounds in his associations. Twenty years at Trinity Church & I heard nuttin" come on

298 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:43:52am

They do not have a religious or political category for me

Or for Bobby Zimmerman either, for that matter.

LOL

299 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:44:08am

re: #290 laZardo

Hmm? I was talking about my mental constitution.

EXACTLY

Take that back
It is simply not true.

300 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:44:32am

re: #292 Grammy Cracker

I love it!

301 ec marm  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:46:16am

re: #300 BabbaZee
sharm=bush_lover
right?

302 galloping granny  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:46:24am

re: #297 opnion

Yeah, but Barry's defenders keep screaming "Guilt through association"
That is valid only to a point. Barry is way outside of normal bounds in his associations. Twenty years at Trinity Church & I heard nuttin" come on

"Guilt by association" applies to the sober kid in the car full of drunken teenagers. In most states, he gets the same tickets & the same punishments as the rest.

303 sparrowlake  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:46:44am

re: #278 laZardo

I'm currently double-disillusioned with both sides of the political spectrum, actually. Only reason I'm hanging out here is probably because if I dissented from the "other" side's view on their forums, I'd end up psychologically shattered from whatever abuse might get thrown my way.

/not in the strongest of mental constitutions...

Are you saying that you are basically a fragile shit-disturber?
Welcome to the club!

304 doriangrey  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:46:57am

re: #298 BabbaZee

They do not have a religious or political category for me

Or for Bobby Zimmerman either, for that matter.

LOL

How about this guy? ((BabbaZee))

305 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:47:12am

re: #295 JamesTKirk

LOL, I almost peed myself over the teeth brushing one!

306 doriangrey  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:48:01am

re: #295 JamesTKirk

Who, me?

ROTFLMAO... dont you have a universe to be saving?

307 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:48:08am
On April 19, 2008, Branch 13 of Tehran's Revolutionary Court sentenced Nasrin Afzali to 10 lashes and a six- month suspended prison sentence, in effect for two years. Afzali's lawyer, Mohammad Mostafaii, told the Meydaan website that during her trial on March 12, 2008, the judge issued his sentence although no evidence was presented relating to the charge of "disturbing the public order" brought against her. Security forces detained Afzali along with 32 other women on March 4, 2006, during a gathering of women's rights activists in support of five of their prosecuted colleagues.
The same court also sentenced another activist, Nahid Jaafari, to 10 lashes and a six- month suspended prison sentence on the same charges on April 21, 2008. Branch 16 of Tehran's Revolutionary Court sentenced Zeinab Peyghambarzadeh, a sociology student at Tehran University and women's rights activist, to a two- year suspended prison sentence on March 29, 2008. She was also suspended for two semesters from continuing her education by the university's Disciplinary Committee.

[Link: www.wluml.org...]

308 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:48:18am

re: #305 rightside

LOL, I almost peed myself over the teeth brushing one!

Khaaaan!

309 opnion  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:48:35am

Here is how I think moon bats should be handled .They were born Lizards,
'Charles Akbar!", and the need to "revert", convert back to their true nature.
If they do not do it willingly, then they must be forced with super wedgies

310 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:48:37am

re: #303 sparrowlake

Are you saying that you are basically a fragile shit-disturber?
Welcome to the club!


Take it back, both of you!

Neither of you are fragile, or weak minded.

As a man THINKS
so he IS

311 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:49:09am

re: #299 BabbaZee

That I'm not strong in mind? I've been diagnosed before, ya know.

re: #303 sparrowlake

Are you saying that you are basically a fragile shit-disturber?
Welcome to the club!

Not quite. ;)

/j/k

312 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:49:13am

re: #282 galloping granny

Stupidity and willful blindness annoy me beyond all belief. I admire your peseverance & fortitude.

Well, the ones I usually deal with just change the subject once cornered. I try to avoid the asshats who go ballistic when their little egos are wounded by being bested with facts, logic, and reason.

re: #288 rightside

Yes and no. I teach a technical subject, and there are relatively far fewer moonbats in the sciences or business schools. The real nests are the humanities (e.g., Womyn's Studies) and schools of indoctrination education.

313 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:49:27am
314 opnion  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:49:32am

re: #302 galloping granny

"Guilt by association" applies to the sober kid in the car full of drunken teenagers. In most states, he gets the same tickets & the same punishments as the rest.

Good example.

315 realwest  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:49:34am

Good Morning y'all - from a mild (54 degrees going up to 68 degrees) cloudy and probably rainy Charlotte!
I have to go out with Mom for several hours this morning and have to leave soon, but did want to drop by and say hello to y'all!

316 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:49:54am

re: #304 doriangrey

Him they got categories for

lol

317 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:50:12am

re: #313 storagemanager

I can't actually tell which side of the argument iranian.ws is on...

318 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:50:29am

re: #311 laZardo

That I'm not strong in mind? I've been diagnosed before, ya know.

I dont give a shit WHAT they said about you.
I am telling you not to believe them.

319 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:50:39am

re: #293 rightside

I thought liberals were non-judgmental?

Lefties are the most judgmental people on the planet in my experience, as well as some of the least self conscious.

Left-think corresponds nicely to what Gershom Scholem described as the "sectarian disposition": "the sect serves the illuminati as both a rallying point for their own kind and a refuge from the incomprehension of the carnal and unenlightened masses. The sectarians regard themselves as the vanguard of the new world, but they do not therefore need to renounce the parent religion [or political system, l.s.] which inspired them, for they can always reinterpret it in the light of the supreme reality to which they owe their newly discovered allegiance."
("Redemption through Sin," in Scholem, The Messianic Idea in Judaism)

320 doriangrey  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:50:41am

re: #310 BabbaZee

Take it back, both of you!

Neither of you are fragile, or weak minded.

As a man THINKS
so he IS

Ya, their about as fragile as the rock of Gibraltar....

321 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:50:46am

re: #308 JamesTKirk

LMFAO! I'm dying here, man!

322 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:51:18am

re: #306 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO... dont you have a universe to be saving?

I think the universe can take care of itself for a while...

[Link: img225.imageshack.us...]

323 doriangrey  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:51:37am

re: #315 realwest

Good Morning y'all - from a mild (54 degrees going up to 68 degrees) cloudy and probably rainy Charlotte!
I have to go out with Mom for several hours this morning and have to leave soon, but did want to drop by and say hello to y'all!

Good morning realwest, hope you are feeling well this morning....

324 Shug  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:51:54am

The Ben Stein thread just crashed my computer

I hadn't tried to read it before, but I heard it was crazy

325 yochanan  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:52:24am

re: #241 galloping granny

Sparrowlake, once you've hung around a while you will discover that many of us - perhaps most - were once moonbats ourselves. Transformation from moonbat to sanity is an individual process. No, of course moonbats are not prepared to adopt the anti-jihadi cause. If they were they would not be moonbats.

THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WE ALL AGREE ON AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE DON'T.

problems start when we go off the road of agreement we are all anti islamist and pro america on the islamo fascist war, i would be willing to bet that on most other issues we have many differences which we should understand it is not by accident that religion, abortion and other social issues do cause many fights as there are offen very different view points.

It is not by accident that Charles has never had a abortion thread. on some issues we really should understand that there are real differences religion and all the issues that come with it is very personal and are deeply held. What one agrees with others will not agree with.

It is better to say away from such issues i think.

326 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:52:48am

re: #324 Shug


Yawn at this point

327 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:52:55am

re: #318 BabbaZee

I don't know who to believe anymore. Not God or the moonbats. The only person I can really believe is myself when it comes right down to it. At least the people around here tend to make more sense than others, and above all don't react as violently.

328 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:52:55am

re: #317 laZardo

I can't actually tell which side of the argument iranian.ws is on...

They are for human rights in Iran...why would that be hard to understand?

329 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:53:17am

re: #320 doriangrey

Ya, their about as fragile as the rock of Gibraltar....

AMEN

Fucking shrinks.

I could [REDACTED]

330 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:53:17am

re: #315 realwest

Hey Real. Going to get out and enjoy the beautiful day?

331 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:53:22am

re: #324 Shug

The Ben Stein thread just crashed my computer

I hadn't tried to read it before, but I heard it was crazy

I haven't touched that one, since I know what it would do to my computer...

332 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:53:48am

re: #327 laZardo

Believe this:

What I see in you SHINES.

333 doriangrey  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:53:51am

re: #316 BabbaZee

Him they got categories for

lol

Yes, I suspect he was who Barry Obambanation was referring to when he spoke of people clinging to their religion and guns...

334 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:53:54am

Morning everyone from a foggy (but getting sunny) NYC...

PA Lizards, get out there and vote, I guess... I'm not really on board with the whole vote Hillary and keep the mess going thing... I guess I see more vulnerabilities in Obama than I do in Hillary...

Heard Obama joking last night on The Daily Show that he won't enslave White Americans. Thank goodness... Of course, the Daily Show is where the majority of the 18-34 crowd get their news and information so Obama is good to vote for then? Awesome!

335 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:54:38am
336 realwest  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:54:47am

re: #323 doriangrey Hey dorian! Yeah I'm doing ok today - still not fully awake yet though.
Fortunately I don't have to drive this morning!

337 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:55:05am

re: #333 doriangrey

Yes, I suspect he was who Barry Obambanation was referring to when he spoke of people clinging to their religion and guns...

LOL

Kill' em
Chill 'em
and
Grill 'em!

338 doriangrey  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:55:07am

Well this lizard has to head off to work again, damn I could of sworn I did that just yesterday....

339 realwest  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:55:11am

YO BABBA!

340 sparrowlake  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:55:21am

re: #310 BabbaZee

Take it back, both of you!

Neither of you are fragile, or weak minded.

As a man THINKS
so he IS

Taketh a pilleth, {Babbaleh}.
I am just exercisin' my sensitive feminine bitch side. LOL.

341 akak  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:55:26am

I had a feeling jihadi's were involved/behind the rioting in Montreal, sure enough first place I looked ...jihadi's flamin.

342 doriangrey  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:55:45am

re: #337 BabbaZee

LOL

Kill' em
Chill 'em
and
Grill 'em!

Ya cant grill it till ya kill it....

343 realwest  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:55:46am

And that's all for now folks, gotta run, hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get to see you down the road!

344 Grammy Cracker  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:56:22am

re: #327 laZardo

I found this song for you.

You're one of a kind.....

345 opnion  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:56:38am

re: #293 rightside

I thought liberals were non-judgmental?

I had lunch with a business associate yesterday. He like I, has a moonbat infestation in his extended family.
We got kinda snarky & swapped stories about our family Liberals.It was real one upsmanship.
The one thing that we both came to, is how angry they are all of the time and feel a need to inject politics even when it is really inappropriate.
Also how when they are losing, they default to the smug, smirk.

346 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:57:26am
One of the questioners asked about the theory that has circulated in the Middle East and elsewhere that Israel was behind the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Al-Zawahri accused Hezbollah's Al-Manar television of starting the rumor.

"The purpose of this lie is clear — (to suggest) that there are no heroes among the Sunnis who can hurt America as no else did in history. Iranian media snapped up this lie and repeated it," he said.


[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

347 opnion  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:57:35am

re: #324 Shug

The Ben Stein thread just crashed my computer

I hadn't tried to read it before, but I heard it was crazy

Yup,the postings got really wild.

348 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:57:39am

re: #319 Lucius Septimius

Lefties are the most judgmental people on the planet in my experience, as well as some of the least self conscious.

I think that's a key element of why they're really that way. How can you preach tolerance and inclusion as your mantra, but be totally oblivous to their own hypocrisy?

349 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:57:42am

re: #328 storagemanager
They seem more toward non-violence, is what I was noticing.

/then again, when the mullah's regime is pretty much the embodiment of a religious right-wing, it can only go left from there...center included.

re: #332 BabbaZee

Have you been spying on me in the restrooms? Sheesh. (;

350 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:58:45am

re: #332 BabbaZee

And you know what "light bearer" usually translates to...

351 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:58:48am

re: #285 Lucius Septimius

What gets me about my liberal colleagues is how superficial their judgments can be. When I had long hair, they assumed I had to be a liberal, because only liberals wear long hair. When I cut it, they decided I must have changed my political viewpoints. When it comes to teaching style, they assume that because I wear a coat and tie, I must lbe a boring ecturer and are surprised to hear that students find my classes "entertaining" -- obviously conservatives must be dull.

Amazing, really.

So true. What is striking is that is the same type of superficial judgment that students make (what does that say about liberal profs?). I used to wear a coat and tie (not anymore, though) and at the beginning the semester, going over my rather lengthy syllabus, students were mucho intimidated. I had one tell me after a class was over that he knew on the first day I was gonna be an ass of a prof and that he was wrong (I was fun but still demanding, which good students don't mind at all).

352 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:59:03am

If I believed what shrinks and doctors said about me my whole life I would have died a madwoman in 1998 when I was informed in Sloan Kettering that all terminal patients receive a visit from a psychiatric professional.

To which I said: Get the fuck out of my room.

They are baffled by my continued existence.

Although they still think I am nuts.
And I am proud of that,
if they fucking deemed me sane
I would worry about me.

Eat me, Dr. Fraud

353 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:59:10am

re: #331 JamesTKirk

I haven't touched that one, since I know what it would do to my computer...

But at least I don't have to deal with this...

354 beblebrox  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 5:59:32am

Good morning, from a small town, gun owning, not really bitter, Pennsylvanian!

355 opnion  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:00:06am

re: #351 christheprofessor

So true. What is striking is that is the same type of superficial judgment that students make (what does that say about liberal profs?). I used to wear a coat and tie (not anymore, though) and at the beginning the semester, going over my rather lengthy syllabus, students were mucho intimidated. I had one tell me after a class was over that he knew on the first day I was gonna be an ass of a prof and that he was wrong (I was fun but still demanding, which good students don't mind at all).

Hey a Lib is a nerd trying to be hip.

356 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:00:13am

re: #340 sparrowlake

Words make Worlds

It is my thing.
I have to point it out.

What you say .....

what you think ...

is what you become.

Speech is like a magic fucking spell and people have no idea the power of it.

357 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:00:18am

Morning real!

How are you?

358 sparrowlake  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:00:44am

re: #311 laZardo

That I'm not strong in mind? I've been diagnosed before, ya know.

re: #303 sparrowlake


Not quite. ;)

/j/k

I mean fragile in the best sense of the word, like fine china.
And I mean shit-disturber.

359 Shug  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:00:56am

re: #352 BabbaZee

If I believed what shrinks and doctors said about me my whole life I would have died a madwoman in 1998 when I was informed in Sloan Kettering that all terminal patients receive a visit from a psychiatric professional.

To which I said: Get the fuck out of my room.

They are baffled by my continued existence.

Although they still think I am nuts.
And I am proud of that,
if they fucking deemed me sane
I would worry about me.

Eat me, Dr. Fraud


Their pain, our gain.

360 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:00:56am

re: #350 laZardo

And you know what "light bearer" usually translates to...

And why do you think that is?

361 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:01:09am

re: #359 Shug

{shug}

362 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:01:27am

re: #350 laZardo

And you know what "light bearer" usually translates to...

[Link: img228.imageshack.us...]

363 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:03:37am

re: #356 BabbaZee

Speech is like a magic fucking spell and people have no idea the power of it.

Verbal Viagra?

364 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:04:29am
365 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:04:44am

re: #363 Lucius Septimius

Speech is like a magic fucking spell and people have no idea the power of it.

Verbal Viagra?

At least.

LOL

366 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:05:02am

re: #362 JamesTKirk

[Link: img228.imageshack.us...]

AHHHHHHHHH

rotf

367 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:05:22am

re: #360 BabbaZee

Mainly because when it comes right down to it, morality's all just relative. It explains why stoning women is perfectly fine in some of the seedier parts of the world whereas we cringe at the thought of doing so here.

re: #362 JamesTKirk

Oh.

368 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:06:16am

re: #355 opnion

Hey a Lib is a nerd trying to be hip.

Not bad. I may have to "borrow" that one...

369 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:06:28am

re: #367 laZardo

It is not relative.
It is absolute.

The problem is people have been taught it is relative.

370 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:06:42am

Oh and by the way, Happy Earth Day everyone!

Prepare to be BOMBARDED with pro-Climate Change propaganda...

371 Shug  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:07:41am

re: #364 BabbaZee

Speaking of WORDS making WORLDS


New State Department lexicon forbids use of the words "jihad" or "jihadist"

car bombs and 767's flown by non-jihadists may break my bones but names will never hurt me

372 Grammy Cracker  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:07:56am

re: #364 BabbaZee

Speaking of WORDS making WORLDS


New State Department lexicon forbids use of the words "jihad" or "jihadist"

Oh for the love of.....

I used to have great admiration for that woman - until she stuck her head up her behind and left it there.

/GACK!

373 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:08:17am

re: #370 tfc3rid

Yahoo, HBO, Google and YouTube all went "green" today.

Though if you click my username and go to the "journal" section, you'll find my special thoughts on the matter. (:

374 storagemanager  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:08:19am
HARARE, Zimbabwe (AP) - Zimbabwe church leaders say people are being tortured, abducted and murdered in a Mugabe-driven campaign of political retribution. The leaders of all church denominations in Zimbabwe issued a joint statement Tuesday calling for international intervention to help end the country's election crisis. They say "the nation is in a crisis" that could escalate to genocidal proportions if nothing is done ...

[Link: patdollard.com...]

375 opnion  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:08:27am

Hillary put out an ad at the last minute, before the PA.primary with images of Osama,.She is trying to contrast her toughness vis a vis Barry being a wuss.
You know Barry's campaign will scream that it is sleazy at the last minute.
Hey, "I'm a Lizard & I approve this ad."

376 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:08:32am

re: #366 BabbaZee

AHHHHHHHHH

rotf

Of course, we know the truth...

/

377 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:09:09am
378 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:09:32am

re: #376 JamesTKirk

too funny

379 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:09:45am

re: #364 BabbaZee

Speaking of WORDS making WORLDS


New State Department lexicon forbids use of the words "jihad" or "jihadist"

When are they going to outlaw the use of the words: "United", "States", and "America"?

380 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:10:28am
381 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:10:37am

re: #379 Nevergiveup

When are they going to outlaw the use of the words: "United", "States", and "America"?

Exactly.

382 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:10:41am

I can think of a whole lot of other terms I'd use for Jihadists, but I'll bet those wouldn't fly at State either.

383 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:11:01am

re: #369 BabbaZee

The only thing absolute is that we're all just out to gain influence over each other through our own definitions of so-called "morality." Like you said, words make worlds.

384 Shug  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:11:32am

re: #382 JamesTKirk

I can think of a whole lot of other terms I'd use for Jihadists, but I'll bet those wouldn't fly at State either.


Islam means Peace

--dubya

385 Grammy Cracker  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:12:17am

re: #380 BabbaZee

I was fooled too. Till shortly after I voted for GWB in 2004.

That makes two of us. At least.

386 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:12:47am

re: #377 BabbaZee

I got a WORD!
in mah MOUTH!

Just. Damn.

387 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:12:51am

re: #382 JamesTKirk

I can think of a whole lot of other terms I'd use for Jihadists, but I'll bet those wouldn't fly at State either.

They only use THOSE terms when referring to the only democracy in the Middle East.

388 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:13:12am

re: #380 BabbaZee

YYYYEEEEEAAAAHHHHH

389 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:14:13am

re: #383 laZardo

Son, there are 613 mitzvot, ten commandments, and seven Noahide laws.

All you need do is stick to the seven.
There's your absolutes right there.

He didn't write the ten in STONE because they were flexible.

390 rwmofo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:15:07am

CNN Hires Tony Snow.

Check out the comments. Blood vessels are a-poppin'. Heh heh.

391 ec marm  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:15:24am

re: #364 BabbaZee

(State Department-draft) Osama Bin Laden and his fellow jihadists peaceful internal struggler's today took credit for the explosion of a non-nuclear dirty bomb on the streets of Washington D.C.

"We bring our jihad peaceful internal struggle to the streets of your Capitol," Bin Laden said.

392 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:15:42am

re: #389 BabbaZee

How you people manage to follow 623 rules is beyond me...

393 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:16:22am

re: #391 ec marm

check yer mail

394 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:16:36am

re: #390 rwmofo

CNN Hires Tony Snow.

Check out the comments. Blood vessels are a-poppin'. Heh heh.

And yet, no one batted an eye when George Stephanopwopbopolopolus was hired...

395 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:16:36am

re: #390 rwmofo

It's the reason MSM trust has dropped. We think it's too left-wing, and unfortunately for them, they think it's too right-wing for them. 'Specially "Faux" News.

396 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:16:43am

Palestinian rocket wounds Israeli child; aid continues to flow into Gaza


Palestinian forces operating out of the Gaza Strip on Monday fired at least nine rockets and mortar shells at communities in southern Israel, wounding a four-year-old Israeli boy and damaging a number of homes.

The wounded child suffered light injuries after a piece of shrapnel from one of the rockets slammed into his family's vehicle as they arrived back at their southern Israel home after a weekend vacation to the north of the country.

Also Monday, Palestinians in Samaria firebombed a Jewish motorist traveling on a local highway. No injuries were reported in that attack.

Israeli forces foiled an apparent assault on Gaza's Erez Crossing late Monday evening, killing three Hamas gunmen as they approached the terminal.

The violence continued on Tuesday when at least one missile fired from northern Gaza hit the southern industrial zone of the Israeli coastal city of Ashkelon.

Despite the ongoing violence emanating from Gaza, Israel on Tuesday opened two crossings into the volatile coastal strip, one of them the aforementioned Erez Crossing, to allow 86 trucks transporting humanitarian aid to enter.

Meanwhile Dhimmi Carter says..


Former President Jimmy Carter dramatically reassured a packed crowd of diplomats and reporters that Hamas had asked him to communicate to the people of Israel that Hamas would now recognize the Jewish state and live at peace with Israel if a peace agreement were to assure that the Palestinian state would be established only in the areas taken by Israel in the 1967 war.

Peace in our time.

397 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:17:05am

re: #392 laZardo

How you people manage to follow 623 rules is beyond me...

613

and I don't

my personal feeling is it is entirely unnecessary to do so

but I admire them none the less

398 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:17:35am

re: #392 laZardo

How you people manage to follow 623 rules is beyond me...

We had to comply with several zillion laws, regulations, and footnotes just to file our taxes. 623 is child's play.

399 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:17:54am

re: #386 Lucius Septimius

He's The Black Hagee. LOL

400 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:18:05am

re: #397 BabbaZee

613 + 7 Noahite + 10 Commandments. :P

/addition, dammit!

401 Shug  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:18:09am

re: #396 NJDhockeyfan

Palestinian rocket wounds Israeli child; aid continues to flow into Gaza

Peace in our time.

COEXIST!

402 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:18:45am

re: #400 laZardo

613 + 7 Noahite + 10 Commandments. :P

/addition, dammit!

The 613 cover the ten
and the 7 are contained in the ten

403 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:18:58am

re: #400 laZardo

PIMF, that makes it 630.

/like I said, not the strongest of minds.

404 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:19:53am

re: #403 laZardo

/like I said, not the strongest of minds.


Keep it up, wiseass.
Why don't you just hit yourself in the head with a rock now and get it over with?

405 yochanan  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:20:00am

i would not call my self a liberal on social issues but more a 'libertarian' on social issues were a religious social cons. would disagree with me but so would the social liberal as i don't think it is the gov't job to enforce any of my social values. Religious values should only apply to followers of that religion and i reject being force to accept values of a religious group i am not a part of. I may freely accept those values of my own religious group. I don't believe in forcing mine on non believes. Nor do i think the state should be put in that position either.

An example i don't give a tinkers damn about polgamy as long as it is between consenting aduilts marriage is a social contract and a contract can only be between people who can legally enter into a contract a minor can't do that. The moral opasition to polgamy is based upon christian moral values and other religions have different values on this issue. So why should christanity have the right to enforce its values upon non belivers?

406 christheprofessor  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:20:10am

re: #394 JamesTKirk

And yet, no one batted an eye when George Stephanopwopbopolopolus was hired...

Yup. And I trust Tony Snow to be far more objective, or at least open about his conservative bent, than George Stuffanoctopus ever is or was. Hell, the only reason Georgie-boy went after Barack at the debate is that he is still, and will always be, a Clinton stooge/labdog...

407 Grammy Cracker  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:20:31am

re: #401 Shug

COEXIST!

It's the fault of the evil Joos! That rocket was sent in peace, and the eeevvvviiiiilllll Joos put that child under it in an attempt to further their goal of global domination!

408 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:21:59am

re: #404 BabbaZee

Lemme just find one that's big enough. (:

re: #407 Grammy Cracker

Those poor, technically Israeli Palestinian kids!

409 rightside  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:22:37am

re: #390 rwmofo

I thought most of them wished him dead?

410 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:23:15am

re: #401 Shug

COEXIST!

Y'know, I could deal with those inane bumperstickers if the second to last letter was a $.

411 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:23:30am
412 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:24:28am

re: #410 Lucius Septimius

Y'know, I could deal with those inane bumperstickers if the second to last letter was a $.

As I've said before, I could deal with that bumper sticker if I just cut of the "CO" (consisting of the Islamic crescent and the moonbattish peace sign). I'd love to "EXIST" without those two groups. (It would be a lot easier, in fact!)

413 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:25:09am
414 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:25:33am

re: #412 JamesTKirk

As I've said before, I could deal with that bumper sticker if I just cut of the "CO" (consisting of the Islamic crescent and the moonbattish peace sign). I'd love to "EXIST" without those two groups. (It would be a lot easier, in fact!)

CO = Carbon Monoxide. Yep, it would be a lot easier to exist without that.

415 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:25:47am

re: #411 BabbaZee

We all eventually die. :P Old age, heart or terrorist attack, etc. It's how life goes, and I'll just deal with it when it comes inevitably.

416 faraway  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:26:22am

I, too, saw the strange lights above Florida.

And I very clearly heard a voice say "Hope and Change".

Then they said "We are what we've been waiting for"

Then they said, your Messiah is here with you.

417 Shug  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:27:19am

re: #416 faraway

I, too, saw the strange lights above Florida.

And I very clearly heard a voice say "Hope and Change".

Then they said "We are what we've been waiting for"

Then they said, your Messiah is here with you.

swamp gas

418 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:27:39am

re: #416 faraway

I, too, saw the strange lights above Florida.

And I very clearly heard a voice say "Hope and Change".

Then they said "We are what we've been waiting for"

Then they said, your Messiah is here with you.

"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy."

419 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:27:47am

re: #417 Shug

swamp gas

Cow farts.

420 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:28:26am

re: #418 JamesTKirk

"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy."

Oops! I forgot that scene got nsfw when Judith appears. Sorry.

421 Shug  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:28:44am
422 laZardo  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:28:48am

re: #413 JamesTKirk

I choose cake.

THE CAKE IS A LIE.

/mmm, internet memes

423 paxnhymn  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:29:05am

re: #390 rwmofo

CNN Hires Tony Snow.

Check out the comments. Blood vessels are a-poppin'. Heh heh.


Ohh, I love the "thank God for C-span" one. That person doesn't have a life. I'd rather watch spackling dry...

424 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:29:20am

re: #422 laZardo

THE CAKE IS A LIE.

/mmm, internet memes

I love that song.

426 loppyd  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:31:13am

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

Operation Chaos has commenced in PA.

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

427 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:31:55am
428 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:31:57am

Off to my earnest labors. Have a splendid spring day, all.

429 Bloodnok  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:32:44am

re: #426 loppyd

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

Operation Chaos has commenced in PA.

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

mornin'...How is the North Shore this AM?

430 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:33:01am

re: #419 Lucius Septimius

re: #417 Shug
re: #416 faraway
I, too, saw the strange lights above Florida. And I very clearly heard a voice say "Hope and Change". Then they said "We are what we've been waiting for" Then they said, your Messiah is here with you.

swamp gas

Cow farts.

You question the divinity of the Messiah? BLASPHEMY!

431 BabbaZee  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:33:16am
432 Shug  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:33:47am

re: #430 JamesTKirk


behead those who insult swamp gas

433 JamesTKirk  Tue, Apr 22, 2008 6:33:54am