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Belien Smears Dissident Frogman

Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:40:00 am PST

Vlaams Belang shill Paul Belien at The Brussels Journal (or his “desk”) indulges in a blatantly dishonest headline to smear Dissident Frogman and his article on Brigitte Bardot: Moral Equivalence: My Rifle as Ready to Shoot Brigitte as Shoot Islamists.

Belien has written and said similarly vicious and dishonest things about me, of course. He probably felt compelled to attack Frogman for two reasons: 1) because Bardot is affiliated with the fascist French National Front and Jean-Marie Le Pen, and so is the Vlaams Belang, and 2) because Frogman wrote the following sentence as a footnote to his piece, referring to the conflict over bloggers who support fascist groups like the Vlaams Belang:

And yes, before you ask I was/am behind Charles Johnson on this one.

Frogman responds to Belien:

But honestly, all I really feel like saying at the moment is: “Thanks to the Desk at the Brussels Journal for reminding me yet again why I’ve consistently kept both Right-wing and Left-wing fascists at bay in my life and on my blog all these years.”

Wish everybody, particularly in Europe, could say the same.

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#1 Ringo the Gringo 4/22/08 8:42:24 am 0

Frogman!

#2 slokat 4/22/08 8:42:32 am 0

Looks like we're in good company

#3 lawhawk 4/22/08 8:42:55 am 2

Frogman nails it. Again.

#4 realwest 4/22/08 8:44:04 am 0

Ah, Paul Belien and his desk The Brussels Journal. The gift that keeps on giving, damnit!

#5 Susanl 4/22/08 8:44:15 am 3

And we are surprised about this....Why?


Some one should let Obama know that there are bitter white people in Europe who need him alot more than we do.

Hey, maybe that will work. Some one needs to convince waffle man that he can save Europe. Then maybe he will leave us alone.

#6 Sharmuta 4/22/08 8:44:16 am 1

Ah- paul- still trashy as ever, I see.

#7 coquimbojoe 4/22/08 8:44:53 am 0

I was just reading his very good article posted yesterday. It is a great overview, and one that sheds tons of light, rather than the regular Bridgette Bardot is being persecuted for speech....

#8 BabbaZee 4/22/08 8:45:35 am 1
“Thanks to the Desk at the Brussels Journal for reminding me yet again why I’ve consistently kept both Right-wing and Left-wing fascists at bay in my life and on my blog all these years.”

AMEN FROGMAN

#9 chinesearithmetic 4/22/08 8:46:47 am 0

Can't make a waffle without pouring on batter

#10 MandyManners 4/22/08 8:46:55 am 0

re: #8 BabbaZee

AMEN FROGMAN

I love it!

#11 Honorary Yooper 4/22/08 8:47:24 am 1

Belien's just pissed over the fallout from the split last year.

As has been stated before, we are pro-freedom, and will not align nor debase ourselves to align with fascists of any stripe, even if they are anti-jihad as the Vlaams Belang claims to be.

Mr. Belien, I know you are reading, therefore, please kindly fuck off.

#12 Eagle 4/22/08 8:48:06 am 2

Not really OT, but...

I still love Frogmans video. Cant forget it.

#13 MandyManners 4/22/08 8:48:39 am 0

re: #11 Honorary Yooper

Belien's just pissed over the fallout from the split last year.

As has been stated before, we are pro-freedom, and will not align nor debase ourselves to align with fascists of any stripe, even if they are anti-jihad as the Vlaams Belang claims to be.

Mr. Belien, I know you are reading, therefore, please kindly fuck off.

"please kindly"?

#14 Roger 4/22/08 8:49:02 am 0

Ok Belien. You are out in lala land further than ever. Reading comprehension has left the building.

Frogman is at the ready with his rifle if need be if any one flavor of Fascist gains power and starts to act out its fantasies.

Pretty simple reading.

#15 Spiny Norman 4/22/08 8:50:36 am 6

FWIW,

Dissident Frogman has been trying for months (years?) to register here at LGF, but hasn't managed to find an "Open Registration" thread before it's too late. They always seen to occur in the middle of the night in Olde Europe...

If he still hasn't made it in, I wonder if Charles could send him an email so DF could register outside of standard procedure.

;^)

#16 zmdavid 4/22/08 8:50:53 am 0

OT
I just checked out google's Earth Day logo, it looks like they changed their name to Go9Te
[Link: www.google.com...]

#17 MandyManners 4/22/08 8:51:10 am 0

re: #12 Eagle

Not really OT, but...

I still love Frogmans video. Cant forget it.

"No shooty before." Hilarious!

#18 Charlie Martel 4/22/08 8:51:33 am 2

A big thanks to my ancestors for getting the hell out of there and immigrating to the US.

#19 Sharmuta 4/22/08 8:52:37 am 8

The crypto-fascist enablers just don't get it. You can't fight fascism with fascism, and to call Frogman's post "Moral Equivalence" is a fallacious argument.

#20 slokat 4/22/08 8:52:48 am 2

Looking @ the posted topics this morning...

Leggo my Eggo
Don't deflate my ego
Fighting with Frogs

Wonder how soon all this can Evolve into an Aborted Creation thread?

/

#21 threecoloursblue 4/22/08 8:53:42 am 0

Blogworld's full of drama queens this weather, isn't it!?!?!

#22 Sharmuta 4/22/08 8:55:04 am 2

Here's a news flash, paul- fascism of any variety is morally wrong!

#23 Honorary Yooper 4/22/08 8:55:23 am 0

re: #13 MandyManners

"please kindly"?

Hey, I'm nothing if I don't at least attempt to be polite. :-)

#24 psaturn 4/22/08 8:55:38 am 0

re: #21 threecoloursblue

Blogworld's full of drama queens this weather, isn't it!?!?!

Must be the full moon...it is out there....

#25 Sacred Plants 4/22/08 8:55:53 am 0

A rare opportunity where the mad mullahs are actually funny:

"Sarko l'Americain" is another common insult, although the French may soon have to think up a fresh one if the Americans elect a president who delivers speeches like the one Barack Obama gave on race, while this country has its first modern leader not to have graduated from the country's upper-crust schools, a head of state who, on a recent visit to the Vatican, arrived late, with an exceptionally crude French stand-up comic named Jean-Marie Bigard in tow. The coup de grace: The hyperactive Sarkozy reportedly text-messaged somebody or other while with the Pope. "We are all ashamed," [a French fiction writer] said, about the president's lack of interest in culture and his general bucks-and-babes style. "I mean, taking Bigard to the Pope. Even as a writer I couldn't have invented that." (Truth be told, he sounded more grateful than angry.)

Of course, when the Pope speaks to the UN about human rights, the Palestinian representative is chewing gum, and the icons of French culture don´t even notice.

#26 MandyManners 4/22/08 8:57:29 am 1

re: #12 Eagle

Not really OT, but...

I still love Frogmans video. Cant forget it.

One of the best six-minute periods I've spent on the Internet ever.

#27 Eagle 4/22/08 8:57:39 am 0

re: #17 MandyManners

"No shooty before." Hilarious!

It's a work of art, imho. Educative art.

#28 psaturn 4/22/08 8:59:38 am 3

re: #23 Honorary Yooper

Hey, I'm nothing if I don't at least attempt to be polite. :-)

It is ironically polite...Ha!

There would be no need for split if Mr. Belien would have separated himself from racist ideology, fascist ideology...and kept it simple, a non racially based movement fighting an evil ideology (Islamofascism) that tries to bend humankind to a specific worldview that is anathema to the Western Civilization as we know it.

Mr. Spencer wrote a fine piece on that subject quite recently.

#29 TrollBot PrtoType Six 4/22/08 9:00:50 am 0

Happy Let’s Destroy The American Economy Day!
(That’s "Earth Day" for you folks in Rio Linda.)
//{;-)™

#30 threecoloursblue 4/22/08 9:00:59 am 0

re: #25 Sacred Plants

Can you figure out who wrote that piece? Looks lifted from the Grauniad or the NYT>

#31 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 4/22/08 9:05:54 am 0

re: #29 TrollBot PrtoType Six

Happy Let’s Destroy The American Economy Day!
(That’s "Earth Day" for you folks in Rio Linda.)
//{;-)™

So thats what Google icon du jour is for

#32 de La Valette 4/22/08 9:06:41 am 6

I posted something similar at the tail end of yesterdays thread, but I will address again here.

Europe needs a William F Buckley to man the gates of the conservative movement. Looking at the current mess on the Right in Europe, I am ready to beatify WFB for his service to this country

#33 lawhawk 4/22/08 9:07:12 am 0

re: #29 TrollBot PrtoType Six

Ask.com asks if you know your carbon footprint.

#34 paxnhymn 4/22/08 9:08:10 am 0

re: #31 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)


Yeah, I may be wrong, but it's said that Earth Day happens to be on the same day as Lenin's birthday.....


/figures

#35 de La Valette 4/22/08 9:08:42 am 0

If the Frogman is reading, the gate is open

#36 Ojoe 4/22/08 9:10:53 am 0

It is best to avoid extremes

#37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 4/22/08 9:11:56 am 0

re: #35 de La Valette

If the Frogman is reading, the gate is open

Man the walls, watch for trolls

#38 Sharmuta 4/22/08 9:13:01 am 5

"Moral Equivalence"- that is such bullsh*t, paul.

It's bullsh*t, because the tactic of calling "moral equivalence" is used when comparing the moral to the immoral and equating the two as though both were equally valid. Problem is- euro-fascism isn't moral, nor is islamo-fascism. To try to claim Frogman is using moral equivalence in this case is to suppose one of the two forms of fascism is superior to the other, when both are actually equally repugnant. What Frogman did was point out the actual moral equivalence going on here in people equating Bardot to Oriana Fallaci- and you have the unmitigated gall to smear him for that. You should be ashamed of yourself, but I know you won't be.

#39 VegasRick 4/22/08 9:13:31 am 0

Did Zombie come back?

#40 CyanSnowHawk 4/22/08 9:13:45 am 0

re: #16 zmdavid

OT
I just checked out google's Earth Day logo, it looks like they changed their name to Go9Te
[Link: www.google.com...]

Is that Lolspeak?

#41 Honorary Yooper 4/22/08 9:13:49 am 0

re: #35 de La Valette

If the Frogman is reading, the gate is open

Oh shit, that means we now have to watch for not just hatchlings but trolls, mobys, and reruns.

BTW, Frogman, if you did register, welcome to LGF.

#42 Dianna 4/22/08 9:13:51 am 0

re: #33 lawhawk

Did they also ask if you care? 'Cause I sure don't!

There was frost when I took the dogs out at 5 this morning, in San Jose, on the 22nd of April! Global warming? Ha!

#43 RedSox 4/22/08 9:14:29 am 0

YESSSSSSSS> I got in, Mom will be proud of me! Hello everyone!

#44 Honorary Yooper 4/22/08 9:14:34 am 0

re: #39 VegasRick

Did Zombie come back?

I haven't seen her yet.

#45 VegasRick 4/22/08 9:15:07 am 0

re: #44 Honorary Yooper

I haven't seen her yet.

Thanks.

#46 zmdavid 4/22/08 9:15:37 am 1

re: #36 Ojoe

It is best to avoid extremes

Billy Joel - I Go To Extremes

Youtube has a silly Earth Day logo too.

#47 VegasRick 4/22/08 9:15:40 am 1

re: #43 RedSox

YESSSSSSSS> I got in, Mom will be proud of me! Hello everyone!

Hey!

#48 CyanSnowHawk 4/22/08 9:16:54 am 1

re: #34 paxnhymn

Yeah, I may be wrong, but it's said that Earth Day happens to be on the same day as Lenin's birthday.....


/figures


You are not wrong. April 22, 1870 was the birthday of that tyrant.

#49 Sacred Plants 4/22/08 9:17:25 am 0

re: #30 threecoloursblue

Indeed. I should have guessed so, since it doesn´t mention that Sarkozy is giving nukes to Gaddafi. That and the humour indicate it´s not of Islamic origin.

#50 MandyManners 4/22/08 9:17:25 am 0

re: #43 RedSox

YESSSSSSSS> I got in, Mom will be proud of me! Hello everyone!

I told you to leave your lap-top at home! Your teacher's gonna' kill you. No park for you this afternoon.

#51 RedSox 4/22/08 9:17:31 am 0

HI, My mom urned me on to this blog, and she made it in about a month ago, now I made it... so cool, Hope to learn a lot here!

#52 zmdavid 4/22/08 9:18:25 am 0

re: #48 CyanSnowHawk

You are not wrong. April 22, 1870 was the birthday of that tyrant.

Wasn't the first Earth Day in 1970? Hmmm.

#53 threecoloursblue 4/22/08 9:20:25 am 0

re: #49 Sacred Plants

He's not giving nukes to Ghadaffi. You can't enrich uranium from the French reactors.

#54 eschew_obfuscation 4/22/08 9:20:58 am 0

re: #52 zmdavid

Wasn't the first Earth Day in 1970? Hmmm.

"Watermelons" I tells ya! ..... ever' one of 'em

#55 Honorary Yooper 4/22/08 9:22:29 am 0

re: #48 CyanSnowHawk

You are not wrong. April 22, 1870 was the birthday of that tyrant.

I did a quick search and found this:

Coincidence or Communism?

Interesting. It was propsed by Senator Gaylord Nelson (D) of Wisconsin. The Wiki for Earth Day shows Lenin's birthday (100th in 1970) and other events that took place on April 22.

#56 RedSox 4/22/08 9:23:38 am 0

re: #50 MandyManners

LOL, Hi Mandy, I am done with school, and on my PC. Are we talking about France? They just designed a new tank you know, it has 13 gears, 12 in reverse, and 1 forward gear in case they are attacked from behind!

#57 CyanSnowHawk 4/22/08 9:24:06 am 0

re: #52 zmdavid

Wasn't the first Earth Day in 1970? Hmmm.

According to the Wikipedia page, the first one may have been in '69. They also twist a little to justify the date as being significant for other reasons than Lenin. Some are somewhat believable, like John Muir (mistakenly thought to be Apr.22 instead of actually Apr.21) and Eddie Albert (actually Apr.22). I guess they were big Green Acres fans.

#58 maddogg 4/22/08 9:27:35 am 0

Froggy, your OK.

#59 Cygnus 4/22/08 9:27:56 am 0

re: #20 slokat

Looking @ the posted topics this morning...

Leggo my Eggo
Don't deflate my ego
Fighting with Frogs

Wonder how soon all this can Evolve into an Aborted Creation thread?

/

I'm sure that God is laughing. He must have a great sense of humor. Just look at the duck-billed platypus.

#60 Son of the Black Dog 4/22/08 9:28:06 am 0

re: #53 threecoloursblue

He's not giving nukes to Ghadaffi. You can't enrich uranium from the French reactors.

No, but you can extract plutonium from the spent fuel. And the French are probably the world leaders in the technology of spent fuel reprocessing.

#61 Fat Jolly Penguin 4/22/08 9:28:20 am 0

re: #48 CyanSnowHawk

You are not wrong. April 22, 1870 was the birthday of that tyrant.

And April 22, 1912, was the first day upon which Pravda was published. Not that that has anything at all to do with Earth Day.

/not quite sarc

#62 wanumba 4/22/08 9:28:42 am 0

re: #15 Spiny Norman

FWIW,
Dissident Frogman has been trying for months (years?) to register here at LGF, but hasn't managed to find an "Open Registration" thread before it's too late. They always seen to occur in the middle of the night in Olde Europe...
If he still hasn't made it in, I wonder if Charles could send him an email so DF could register outside of standard procedure.
;^)


Everytime Frogman gets wind of an open reg, it's too late!

#63 CyanSnowHawk 4/22/08 9:30:10 am 0

Just finished reading the whole thing over at DF. So the fallout continues. I've certainly gained a great education on European thinking out of the whole thing.

#64 abolitionist 4/22/08 9:30:25 am 0

re: #52 zmdavid

Wasn't the first Earth Day in 1970? Hmmm.

I remember it well. At VA Tech, the faces running the Earth Day show were the same ones I had seen in the anti-war/anti-government/anti-USA protests.

#65 Tumulus11 4/22/08 9:30:56 am 0

. Pravda = Правд а = Troof.

#66 madisonsfriend 4/22/08 9:33:06 am 0

I am confused(as usual)- there are Earth Day events everyday from last Saturday to next Saturday. Is it now Earth Week?

#67 wanumba 4/22/08 9:33:39 am 0

re: #55 Honorary Yooper

I did a quick search and found this:

Coincidence or Communism?

Interesting. It was propsed by Senator Gaylord Nelson (D) of Wisconsin. The Wiki for Earth Day shows Lenin's birthday (100th in 1970) and other events that took place on April 22.


Gorbachev is very comfortable within the world environmental movement fold. So is Al "my daddy was best friends with Armand Hammer" Gore. Wasn't Gore the only person in the USA who was downheartened by the collapse of the Soviet Union - lost all his usual contacts?

#68 CyanSnowHawk 4/22/08 9:33:57 am 0

re: #56 RedSox

LOL, Hi Mandy, I am done with school, and on my PC. Are we talking about France? They just designed a new tank you know, it has 13 gears, 12 in reverse, and 1 forward gear in case they are attacked from behind!

Have a look at the post that started BlackFive. I think you will enjoy it.

#69 antishock8 4/22/08 9:34:16 am 6

Racism and Islamism is two sides of the same coin. Both need to be rejected soundly. Long live democracy, equality, and freedom.

#70 threecoloursblue 4/22/08 9:35:17 am 0

re: #63 CyanSnowHawk

You've learned a lot about fringe nutjobs by reading that. DF is likely the work of a diplomat, despite the tough guy guns image.

#71 Iron Mike 4/22/08 9:36:50 am 0

re: #64 abolitionist

I remember it well. At VA Tech, the faces running the Earth Day show were the same ones I had seen in the anti-war/anti-government/anti-USA protests.

Things really haven't changed much, then.

#72 CyanSnowHawk 4/22/08 9:37:07 am 0

re: #66 madisonsfriend

I am confused(as usual)- there are Earth Day events everyday from last Saturday to next Saturday. Is it now Earth Week?

If my plan works, sometime around 2012, Earth day will be so big it will be an Environmental Catastrophe.

Oops. Did I type that out loud?

#73 VegasRick 4/22/08 9:37:10 am 0

bbl

#74 Spiny Norman 4/22/08 9:38:30 am 0

re: #34 paxnhymn

Yeah, I may be wrong, but it's said that Earth Day happens to be on the same day as Lenin's birthday.....

/figures

That was absolutely intentional. April 22, 1970, the first "Earth Day", was Lenin's 100th birthday.

#75 jcm 4/22/08 9:38:53 am 0

I smell hatchlings!

Clean up your shells, towel off, and man the espresso machine, or bar for those lizards for whom the sun is over the yardarm.

#76 Dianna 4/22/08 9:40:08 am 0

re: #74 Spiny Norman

I've always wondered what Lenin would have made of it. He really didn't have much patience with chattering middle-class do-gooders.

#77 RedSox 4/22/08 9:40:16 am 0

re: #68 CyanSnowHawk
LOL, Great story, probably where the joke originated. Glad that was not me, I would be in Leavenworth breaking rocks!

#78 akak 4/22/08 9:40:25 am 0

re: #53 threecoloursblue

He's not giving nukes to Ghadaffi. You can't enrich uranium from the French reactors.

I read somewhere the Russians have agreed recently to supply Libya some stuff. Who knows what stuff exactly?

Transport vehicle running from Russia to Iran with cargo for Bushehr held up in Azerbaijan

[Link: www.itar-tass.com...]

#79 Spiny Norman 4/22/08 9:40:38 am 0

re: #62 wanumba

re: #15 Spiny Norman
Dissident Frogman has been trying for months (years?) to register here at LGF, but hasn't managed to find an "Open Registration" thread before it's too late. They always seen to occur in the middle of the night in Olde Europe...

Everytime Frogman gets wind of an open reg, it's too late!

He's quite frustrated about it, too.

#80 Shug 4/22/08 9:40:51 am 0

I am the frogman
koo koo kachoo koo koo kachoo

#81 Spiny Norman 4/22/08 9:41:58 am 0

re: #76 Dianna

I've always wondered what Lenin would have made of it. He really didn't have much patience with chattering middle-class do-gooders.

The original "useful idiots". They were quite useful to him and the Bolsheviks, but he detested every single one of them.

#82 Dianna 4/22/08 9:44:21 am 0

Yes, but it still doesn't tell me what he'd make of Earth Day. Though, having read lots of Lenin, I can make some guesses.

#83 NJDhockeyfan 4/22/08 9:44:48 am 0

OT:

Obama's waffles from the Scranton diner are for sale on EBay.

OBAMA SCRANTON PA DINER 4-21-08 CAMPAIGN BREAKFAST

THIS IS BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S BREAKFAST FROM THIS MORNING, 4-21-08 AT THE GLIDER DINER IN SCRANTON, PA. WINNER GETS HIS USED DINER PLATE WITH HIS USED SILVERWARE AND UN EATEN PORTION OF HIS WAFFLE & SAUSAGE LINK. IT WAS WRAPPED WITH SARAN WRAP IMMEDIATELY AFTER HIS DEPARTURE AND IS NOW IN THE FREEZER AWAITING THE LUCKY WINNERS BID! THIS IS 100% AUTHENTIC AS YOU CAN SEE HE WAS AT THE DINER BY THE PICTURE AND IT WAS ON ALL LOCAL NEWS STATIONS. THIS PLATE WAS WRAPPED BY THE WAITRESS THAT SERVED HIM. GUARANTEED AUTHENTIC, HIS DNA IS ON THE SILVERWARE. ALL PROCEEDS GO TO HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT! HAHA

#84 Charles 4/22/08 9:45:45 am 3

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

OT:

Obama's waffles from the Scranton diner are for sale on EBay.

OBAMA SCRANTON PA DINER 4-21-08 CAMPAIGN BREAKFAST

After all that, he didn't even eat the whole waffle?

#85 CyanSnowHawk 4/22/08 9:45:47 am 1

re: #70 threecoloursblue

You've learned a lot about fringe nutjobs by reading that. DF is likely the work of a diplomat, despite the tough guy guns image.

I was referring to the whole blog fight, not just the single post at DF. I should have been more clear on that. But yes, I have learned that Europe is dealing with a lot more nutjobs, and more deeply entrenched nutjobs, than we seem to have over here. I wonder if our style of freedom of speech makes it too easy for our nutjobs to expose themselves before they really become entrenched? I'm sure that is one of many safeguards of our young republic.

#86 Shug 4/22/08 9:46:18 am 0

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

OT:

Obama's waffles from the Scranton diner are for sale on EBay.

OBAMA SCRANTON PA DINER 4-21-08 CAMPAIGN BREAKFAST


what's next, the skid mark he left in the low flush toilet ?

#87 maddogg 4/22/08 9:46:42 am 0

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

OT:

Obama's waffles from the Scranton diner are for sale on EBay.

OBAMA SCRANTON PA DINER 4-21-08 CAMPAIGN BREAKFAST

Whats next? Hillary following Obama around with a bed pan?

#88 Creeping Eruption 4/22/08 9:47:33 am 0

Won't answer while eating a waffle? Oh the irony!

#89 Ben Hur 4/22/08 9:47:58 am 0

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

OT:

Obama's waffles from the Scranton diner are for sale on EBay.

OBAMA SCRANTON PA DINER 4-21-08 CAMPAIGN BREAKFAST

That's effed up.

Someone could get his DNA,etc.

The President's DNA, etc should not be available to the public.

#90 NJDhockeyfan 4/22/08 9:47:59 am 0

re: #84 Charles

After all that, he didn't even eat the whole waffle?

Too upset over the Hamas question?

#91 Creeping Eruption 4/22/08 9:48:09 am 0

re: #88 Creeping Eruption

PIMF - wrong thread. Damn tabs!

#92 Spiny Norman 4/22/08 9:48:57 am 0

You, yes YOU, can have your own piece of the Messiah!

/bought it on eBay...

#93 Ben Hur 4/22/08 9:49:00 am 0

re: #87 maddogg

Whats next? Hillary following Obama around with a bed pan?

You laugh, my friend, but Israel got some of Pappa Assad's PEE in a Mossad operation.

Took the "mint" target.

#94 Ben Hur 4/22/08 9:49:28 am 0

And what about Hizbo running the UN away?!?!?

#95 CyanSnowHawk 4/22/08 9:49:55 am 0

re: #84 Charles

After all that, he didn't even eat the whole waffle?

He couldn't possibly make a commitment like that. Has he ever finished anything? A veritable Professor Calamitous he is. (Okay, who got that reference?)

#96 Creeping Eruption 4/22/08 9:50:42 am 0

re: #94 Ben Hur

And what about Hizbo running the UN away?!?!?

HaHaHaHaHa. What a bunch of pussies!

#97 Roger 4/22/08 9:50:55 am 0

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

I don't care to imagine what some bidders plan to do with Obama's waffles.

#98 MandyManners 4/22/08 9:50:58 am 0

re: #89 Ben Hur

That's effed up.

Someone could get his DNA,etc.

The President's DNA, etc should not be available to the public.

Even on blue dresses from the Gap?