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Belien Smears Dissident Frogman

Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:40:00 am PDT

Vlaams Belang shill Paul Belien at The Brussels Journal (or his “desk”) indulges in a blatantly dishonest headline to smear Dissident Frogman and his article on Brigitte Bardot: Moral Equivalence: My Rifle as Ready to Shoot Brigitte as Shoot Islamists.

Belien has written and said similarly vicious and dishonest things about me, of course. He probably felt compelled to attack Frogman for two reasons: 1) because Bardot is affiliated with the fascist French National Front and Jean-Marie Le Pen, and so is the Vlaams Belang, and 2) because Frogman wrote the following sentence as a footnote to his piece, referring to the conflict over bloggers who support fascist groups like the Vlaams Belang:

And yes, before you ask I was/am behind Charles Johnson on this one.

Frogman responds to Belien:

But honestly, all I really feel like saying at the moment is: “Thanks to the Desk at the Brussels Journal for reminding me yet again why I’ve consistently kept both Right-wing and Left-wing fascists at bay in my life and on my blog all these years.”

Wish everybody, particularly in Europe, could say the same.

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Tags: Vlaams Belang, Brussels Journal, Eurofascism, Fascists, Le Pen, Bardot

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Ringo the Gringo Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:42:24am

Frogman!

slokat Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:42:32am

Looks like we're in good company

lawhawk Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:42:55am

Frogman nails it. Again.

realwest Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:44:04am

Ah, Paul Belien and ~~his desk~~ The Brussels Journal. The gift that keeps on giving, damnit!

Susanl Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:44:15am

And we are surprised about this....Why?

Some one should let Obama know that there are bitter white people in Europe who need him alot more than we do.

Hey, maybe that will work. Some one needs to convince waffle man that he can save Europe. Then maybe he will leave us alone.

Sharmuta Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:44:16am

Ah- paul- still trashy as ever, I see.

coquimbojoe Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:44:53am

I was just reading his very good article posted yesterday. It is a great overview, and one that sheds tons of light, rather than the regular Bridgette Bardot is being persecuted for speech....

BabbaZee Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:45:35am

“Thanks to the Desk at the Brussels Journal for reminding me yet again why I’ve consistently kept both Right-wing and Left-wing fascists at bay in my life and on my blog all these years.”

AMEN FROGMAN

chinesearithmetic Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:46:47am

Can't make a waffle without pouring on batter

MandyManners Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:46:55am

re: #8 BabbaZee

AMEN FROGMAN

I love it!

Honorary Yooper Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:47:24am

Belien's just pissed over the fallout from the split last year.

As has been stated before, we are pro-freedom, and will not align nor debase ourselves to align with fascists of any stripe, even if they are anti-jihad as the Vlaams Belang claims to be.

Mr. Belien, I know you are reading, therefore, please kindly fuck off.

Eagle Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:48:06am

Not really OT, but...

I still love Frogmans video. Cant forget it.

MandyManners Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:48:39am

re: #11 Honorary Yooper

Belien's just pissed over the fallout from the split last year.

As has been stated before, we are pro-freedom, and will not align nor debase ourselves to align with fascists of any stripe, even if they are anti-jihad as the Vlaams Belang claims to be.

Mr. Belien, I know you are reading, therefore, please kindly fuck off.

"please kindly"?

Roger Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:49:02am

Ok Belien. You are out in lala land further than ever. Reading comprehension has left the building.

Frogman is at the ready with his rifle if need be if any one flavor of Fascist gains power and starts to act out its fantasies.

Pretty simple reading.

Spiny Norman Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:50:36am

FWIW,

Dissident Frogman has been trying for months (years?) to register here at LGF, but hasn't managed to find an "Open Registration" thread before it's too late. They always seen to occur in the middle of the night in Olde Europe...

If he still hasn't made it in, I wonder if Charles could send him an email so DF could register outside of standard procedure.

;^)

zmdavid Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:50:53am

OT
I just checked out google's Earth Day logo, it looks like they changed their name to Go9Te
[Link: www.google.com...]

MandyManners Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:51:10am

re: #12 Eagle

Not really OT, but...

I still love Frogmans video. Cant forget it.

"No shooty before." Hilarious!

Charlie Martel Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:51:33am

A big thanks to my ancestors for getting the hell out of there and immigrating to the US.

Sharmuta Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:52:37am

The crypto-fascist enablers just don't get it. You can't fight fascism with fascism, and to call Frogman's post "Moral Equivalence" is a fallacious argument.

slokat Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:52:48am

Looking @ the posted topics this morning...

Leggo my Eggo
Don't deflate my ego
Fighting with Frogs

Wonder how soon all this can Evolve into an Aborted Creation thread?

threecoloursblue Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:53:42am

Blogworld's full of drama queens this weather, isn't it!?!?!

Sharmuta Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:55:04am

Here's a news flash, paul- fascism of any variety is morally wrong!

Honorary Yooper Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:55:23am

re: #13 MandyManners

"please kindly"?

Hey, I'm nothing if I don't at least attempt to be polite. :-)

psaturn Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:55:38am

re: #21 threecoloursblue

Blogworld's full of drama queens this weather, isn't it!?!?!

Must be the full moon...it is out there....

Sacred Plants Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:55:53am

A rare opportunity where the mad mullahs are actually funny:

"Sarko l'Americain" is another common insult, although the French may soon have to think up a fresh one if the Americans elect a president who delivers speeches like the one Barack Obama gave on race, while this country has its first modern leader not to have graduated from the country's upper-crust schools, a head of state who, on a recent visit to the Vatican, arrived late, with an exceptionally crude French stand-up comic named Jean-Marie Bigard in tow. The coup de grace: The hyperactive Sarkozy reportedly text-messaged somebody or other while with the Pope. "We are all ashamed," [a French fiction writer] said, about the president's lack of interest in culture and his general bucks-and-babes style. "I mean, taking Bigard to the Pope. Even as a writer I couldn't have invented that." (Truth be told, he sounded more grateful than angry.)

Of course, when the Pope speaks to the UN about human rights, the Palestinian representative is chewing gum, and the icons of French culture don´t even notice.

MandyManners Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:57:29am

re: #12 Eagle

Not really OT, but...

I still love Frogmans video. Cant forget it.

One of the best six-minute periods I've spent on the Internet ever.

Eagle Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:57:39am

re: #17 MandyManners

"No shooty before." Hilarious!

It's a work of art, imho. Educative art.

psaturn Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:59:38am

re: #23 Honorary Yooper

Hey, I'm nothing if I don't at least attempt to be polite. :-)

It is ironically polite...Ha!

There would be no need for split if Mr. Belien would have separated himself from racist ideology, fascist ideology...and kept it simple, a non racially based movement fighting an evil ideology (Islamofascism) that tries to bend humankind to a specific worldview that is anathema to the Western Civilization as we know it.

Mr. Spencer wrote a fine piece on that subject quite recently.

TrollBot PrtoType Six Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:00:50am

Happy Let’s Destroy The American Economy Day!
(That’s "Earth Day" for you folks in Rio Linda.)
//{;-)™

threecoloursblue Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:00:59am

re: #25 Sacred Plants

Can you figure out who wrote that piece? Looks lifted from the Grauniad or the NYT>

Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:05:54am

re: #29 TrollBot PrtoType Six

Happy Let’s Destroy The American Economy Day!
(That’s "Earth Day" for you folks in Rio Linda.)
//{;-)™

So thats what Google icon du jour is for

de La Valette Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:06:41am

I posted something similar at the tail end of yesterdays thread, but I will address again here.

Europe needs a William F Buckley to man the gates of the conservative movement. Looking at the current mess on the Right in Europe, I am ready to beatify WFB for his service to this country

lawhawk Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:07:12am

re: #29 TrollBot PrtoType Six

Ask.com asks if you know your carbon footprint.

paxnhymn Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:08:10am

re: #31 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yeah, I may be wrong, but it's said that Earth Day happens to be on the same day as Lenin's birthday.....

/figures

de La Valette Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:08:42am

If the Frogman is reading, the gate is open

Ojoe Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:10:53am

It is best to avoid extremes

Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:11:56am

re: #35 de La Valette

If the Frogman is reading, the gate is open

Man the walls, watch for trolls

Sharmuta Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:13:01am

"Moral Equivalence"- that is such bullsh*t, paul.

It's bullsh*t, because the tactic of calling "moral equivalence" is used when comparing the moral to the immoral and equating the two as though both were equally valid. Problem is- euro-fascism isn't moral, nor is islamo-fascism. To try to claim Frogman is using moral equivalence in this case is to suppose one of the two forms of fascism is superior to the other, when both are actually equally repugnant. What Frogman did was point out the actual moral equivalence going on here in people equating Bardot to Oriana Fallaci- and you have the unmitigated gall to smear him for that. You should be ashamed of yourself, but I know you won't be.

VegasRick Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:13:31am

Did Zombie come back?

CyanSnowHawk Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:13:45am

re: #16 zmdavid

OT
I just checked out google's Earth Day logo, it looks like they changed their name to Go9Te
[Link: www.google.com...]

Is that Lolspeak?

Honorary Yooper Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:13:49am

re: #35 de La Valette

If the Frogman is reading, the gate is open

Oh shit, that means we now have to watch for not just hatchlings but trolls, mobys, and reruns.

BTW, Frogman, if you did register, welcome to LGF.

Dianna Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:13:51am

re: #33 lawhawk

Did they also ask if you care? 'Cause I sure don't!

There was frost when I took the dogs out at 5 this morning, in San Jose, on the 22nd of April! Global warming? Ha!

RedSox Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:14:29am

YESSSSSSSS> I got in, Mom will be proud of me! Hello everyone!

Honorary Yooper Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:14:34am

re: #39 VegasRick

Did Zombie come back?

I haven't seen her yet.

VegasRick Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:15:07am

re: #44 Honorary Yooper

I haven't seen her yet.

Thanks.

zmdavid Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:15:37am

re: #36 Ojoe

It is best to avoid extremes

Billy Joel - I Go To Extremes

Youtube has a silly Earth Day logo too.

VegasRick Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:15:40am

re: #43 RedSox

YESSSSSSSS> I got in, Mom will be proud of me! Hello everyone!

Hey!

CyanSnowHawk Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:16:54am

re: #34 paxnhymn

Yeah, I may be wrong, but it's said that Earth Day happens to be on the same day as Lenin's birthday.....

/figures

You are not wrong. April 22, 1870 was the birthday of that tyrant.

Sacred Plants Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:17:25am

re: #30 threecoloursblue

Indeed. I should have guessed so, since it doesn´t mention that Sarkozy is giving nukes to Gaddafi. That and the humour indicate it´s not of Islamic origin.

MandyManners Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:17:25am

re: #43 RedSox

YESSSSSSSS> I got in, Mom will be proud of me! Hello everyone!

I told you to leave your lap-top at home! Your teacher's gonna' kill you. No park for you this afternoon.

RedSox Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:17:31am

HI, My mom urned me on to this blog, and she made it in about a month ago, now I made it... so cool, Hope to learn a lot here!

zmdavid Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:18:25am

re: #48 CyanSnowHawk

You are not wrong. April 22, 1870 was the birthday of that tyrant.

Wasn't the first Earth Day in 1970? Hmmm.

threecoloursblue Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:20:25am

re: #49 Sacred Plants

He's not giving nukes to Ghadaffi. You can't enrich uranium from the French reactors.

eschew_obfuscation Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:20:58am

re: #52 zmdavid

Wasn't the first Earth Day in 1970? Hmmm.

"Watermelons" I tells ya! ..... ever' one of 'em

Honorary Yooper Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:22:29am

re: #48 CyanSnowHawk

You are not wrong. April 22, 1870 was the birthday of that tyrant.

I did a quick search and found this:

Coincidence or Communism?

Interesting. It was propsed by Senator Gaylord Nelson (D) of Wisconsin. The Wiki for Earth Day shows Lenin's birthday (100th in 1970) and other events that took place on April 22.

RedSox Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:23:38am

re: #50 MandyManners

LOL, Hi Mandy, I am done with school, and on my PC. Are we talking about France? They just designed a new tank you know, it has 13 gears, 12 in reverse, and 1 forward gear in case they are attacked from behind!

CyanSnowHawk Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:24:06am

re: #52 zmdavid

Wasn't the first Earth Day in 1970? Hmmm.

According to the Wikipedia page, the first one may have been in '69. They also twist a little to justify the date as being significant for other reasons than Lenin. Some are somewhat believable, like John Muir (mistakenly thought to be Apr.22 instead of actually Apr.21) and Eddie Albert (actually Apr.22). I guess they were big Green Acres fans.

maddogg Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:27:35am

Froggy, your OK.

Cygnus Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:27:56am

re: #20 slokat

Looking @ the posted topics this morning...

Leggo my Eggo
Don't deflate my ego
Fighting with Frogs

Wonder how soon all this can Evolve into an Aborted Creation thread?

/

I'm sure that God is laughing. He must have a great sense of humor. Just look at the duck-billed platypus.

Son of the Black Dog Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:28:06am

re: #53 threecoloursblue

He's not giving nukes to Ghadaffi. You can't enrich uranium from the French reactors.

No, but you can extract plutonium from the spent fuel. And the French are probably the world leaders in the technology of spent fuel reprocessing.

Fat Jolly Penguin Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:28:20am

re: #48 CyanSnowHawk

You are not wrong. April 22, 1870 was the birthday of that tyrant.

And April 22, 1912, was the first day upon which Pravda was published. Not that that has anything at all to do with Earth Day.

/not quite sarc

wanumba Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:28:42am

re: #15 Spiny Norman

FWIW,
Dissident Frogman has been trying for months (years?) to register here at LGF, but hasn't managed to find an "Open Registration" thread before it's too late. They always seen to occur in the middle of the night in Olde Europe...
If he still hasn't made it in, I wonder if Charles could send him an email so DF could register outside of standard procedure.
;^)

Everytime Frogman gets wind of an open reg, it's too late!

CyanSnowHawk Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:30:10am

Just finished reading the whole thing over at DF. So the fallout continues. I've certainly gained a great education on European thinking out of the whole thing.

abolitionist Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:30:25am

re: #52 zmdavid

Wasn't the first Earth Day in 1970? Hmmm.

I remember it well. At VA Tech, the faces running the Earth Day show were the same ones I had seen in the anti-war/anti-government/anti-USA protests.

Tumulus11 Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:30:56am

. Pravda = %u041F%u0440%u0430%u0432%u0434%u0430 = Troof.

madisonsfriend Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:33:06am

I am confused(as usual)- there are Earth Day events everyday from last Saturday to next Saturday. Is it now Earth Week?

wanumba Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:33:39am

re: #55 Honorary Yooper

I did a quick search and found this:

Coincidence or Communism?

Interesting. It was propsed by Senator Gaylord Nelson (D) of Wisconsin. The Wiki for Earth Day shows Lenin's birthday (100th in 1970) and other events that took place on April 22.

Gorbachev is very comfortable within the world environmental movement fold. So is Al "my daddy was best friends with Armand Hammer" Gore. Wasn't Gore the only person in the USA who was downheartened by the collapse of the Soviet Union - lost all his usual contacts?

CyanSnowHawk Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:33:57am

re: #56 RedSox

LOL, Hi Mandy, I am done with school, and on my PC. Are we talking about France? They just designed a new tank you know, it has 13 gears, 12 in reverse, and 1 forward gear in case they are attacked from behind!

Have a look at the post that started BlackFive. I think you will enjoy it.

antishock8 Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:34:16am

Racism and Islamism is two sides of the same coin. Both need to be rejected soundly. Long live democracy, equality, and freedom.

threecoloursblue Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:35:17am

re: #63 CyanSnowHawk

You've learned a lot about fringe nutjobs by reading that. DF is likely the work of a diplomat, despite the tough guy guns image.

Iron Mike Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:36:50am

re: #64 abolitionist

I remember it well. At VA Tech, the faces running the Earth Day show were the same ones I had seen in the anti-war/anti-government/anti-USA protests.

Things really haven't changed much, then.

CyanSnowHawk Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:37:07am

re: #66 madisonsfriend

I am confused(as usual)- there are Earth Day events everyday from last Saturday to next Saturday. Is it now Earth Week?

If my plan works, sometime around 2012, Earth day will be so big it will be an Environmental Catastrophe.

Oops. Did I type that out loud?

VegasRick Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:37:10am

bbl

Spiny Norman Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:38:30am

re: #34 paxnhymn

Yeah, I may be wrong, but it's said that Earth Day happens to be on the same day as Lenin's birthday.....

/figures

That was absolutely intentional. April 22, 1970, the first "Earth Day", was Lenin's 100th birthday.

jcm Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:38:53am

I smell hatchlings!

Clean up your shells, towel off, and man the espresso machine, or bar for those lizards for whom the sun is over the yardarm.

Dianna Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:40:08am

re: #74 Spiny Norman

I've always wondered what Lenin would have made of it. He really didn't have much patience with chattering middle-class do-gooders.

RedSox Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:40:16am

re: #68 CyanSnowHawk
LOL, Great story, probably where the joke originated. Glad that was not me, I would be in Leavenworth breaking rocks!

akak Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:40:25am

re: #53 threecoloursblue

He's not giving nukes to Ghadaffi. You can't enrich uranium from the French reactors.

I read somewhere the Russians have agreed recently to supply Libya some stuff. Who knows what stuff exactly?

Transport vehicle running from Russia to Iran with cargo for Bushehr held up in Azerbaijan

[Link: www.itar-tass.com...]

Spiny Norman Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:40:38am

re: #62 wanumba

re: #15 Spiny Norman
Dissident Frogman has been trying for months (years?) to register here at LGF, but hasn't managed to find an "Open Registration" thread before it's too late. They always seen to occur in the middle of the night in Olde Europe...

Everytime Frogman gets wind of an open reg, it's too late!

He's quite frustrated about it, too.

Shug Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:40:51am

I am the frogman
koo koo kachoo koo koo kachoo

Spiny Norman Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:41:58am

re: #76 Dianna

I've always wondered what Lenin would have made of it. He really didn't have much patience with chattering middle-class do-gooders.

The original "useful idiots". They were quite useful to him and the Bolsheviks, but he detested every single one of them.

Dianna Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:44:21am

Yes, but it still doesn't tell me what he'd make of Earth Day. Though, having read lots of Lenin, I can make some guesses.

NJDhockeyfan Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:44:48am

OT:

Obama's waffles from the Scranton diner are for sale on EBay.

OBAMA SCRANTON PA DINER 4-21-08 CAMPAIGN BREAKFAST

THIS IS BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S BREAKFAST FROM THIS MORNING, 4-21-08 AT THE GLIDER DINER IN SCRANTON, PA. WINNER GETS HIS USED DINER PLATE WITH HIS USED SILVERWARE AND UN EATEN PORTION OF HIS WAFFLE & SAUSAGE LINK. IT WAS WRAPPED WITH SARAN WRAP IMMEDIATELY AFTER HIS DEPARTURE AND IS NOW IN THE FREEZER AWAITING THE LUCKY WINNERS BID! THIS IS 100% AUTHENTIC AS YOU CAN SEE HE WAS AT THE DINER BY THE PICTURE AND IT WAS ON ALL LOCAL NEWS STATIONS. THIS PLATE WAS WRAPPED BY THE WAITRESS THAT SERVED HIM. GUARANTEED AUTHENTIC, HIS DNA IS ON THE SILVERWARE. ALL PROCEEDS GO TO HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT! HAHA

Charles Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:45:45am

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

OT:

Obama's waffles from the Scranton diner are for sale on EBay.

OBAMA SCRANTON PA DINER 4-21-08 CAMPAIGN BREAKFAST

After all that, he didn't even eat the whole waffle?

CyanSnowHawk Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:45:47am

re: #70 threecoloursblue

You've learned a lot about fringe nutjobs by reading that. DF is likely the work of a diplomat, despite the tough guy guns image.

I was referring to the whole blog fight, not just the single post at DF. I should have been more clear on that. But yes, I have learned that Europe is dealing with a lot more nutjobs, and more deeply entrenched nutjobs, than we seem to have over here. I wonder if our style of freedom of speech makes it too easy for our nutjobs to expose themselves before they really become entrenched? I'm sure that is one of many safeguards of our young republic.

Shug Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:46:18am

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

OT:

Obama's waffles from the Scranton diner are for sale on EBay.

OBAMA SCRANTON PA DINER 4-21-08 CAMPAIGN BREAKFAST

what's next, the skid mark he left in the low flush toilet ?

maddogg Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:46:42am

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

OT:

Obama's waffles from the Scranton diner are for sale on EBay.

OBAMA SCRANTON PA DINER 4-21-08 CAMPAIGN BREAKFAST

Whats next? Hillary following Obama around with a bed pan?

Creeping Eruption Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:47:33am

Won't answer while eating a waffle? Oh the irony!

Ben Hur Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:47:58am

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

OT:

Obama's waffles from the Scranton diner are for sale on EBay.

OBAMA SCRANTON PA DINER 4-21-08 CAMPAIGN BREAKFAST

That's effed up.

Someone could get his DNA,etc.

The President's DNA, etc should not be available to the public.

NJDhockeyfan Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:47:59am

re: #84 Charles

After all that, he didn't even eat the whole waffle?

Too upset over the Hamas question?

Creeping Eruption Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:48:09am

re: #88 Creeping Eruption

PIMF - wrong thread. Damn tabs!

Spiny Norman Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:48:57am

You, yes YOU, can have your own piece of the Messiah!

/bought it on eBay...

Ben Hur Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:49:00am

re: #87 maddogg

Whats next? Hillary following Obama around with a bed pan?

You laugh, my friend, but Israel got some of Pappa Assad's PEE in a Mossad operation.

Took the "mint" target.

Ben Hur Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:49:28am

And what about Hizbo running the UN away?!?!?

CyanSnowHawk Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:49:55am

re: #84 Charles

After all that, he didn't even eat the whole waffle?

He couldn't possibly make a commitment like that. Has he ever finished anything? A veritable Professor Calamitous he is. (Okay, who got that reference?)

Creeping Eruption Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:50:42am

re: #94 Ben Hur

And what about Hizbo running the UN away?!?!?

HaHaHaHaHa. What a bunch of pussies!

Roger Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:50:55am

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

I don't care to imagine what some bidders plan to do with Obama's waffles.

MandyManners Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:50:58am

re: #89 Ben Hur

That's effed up.

Someone could get his DNA,etc.

The President's DNA, etc should not be available to the public.

Even on blue dresses from the Gap?

Roger Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:52:08am

re: #98 MandyManners

Clinton is not known for his accuracy.

100

MandyManners Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:52:09am

re: #93 Ben Hur

You laugh, my friend, but Israel got some of Pappa Assad's PEE in a Mossad operation.

Took the "mint" target.

They didn't! Did they?

101

Shug Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:52:23am

Obama Didn't finish the whole waffle

He ain't rich
he ain't white
He ain't hungry

/rev wright

102

Sharmuta Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:52:26am

re: #83 NJDhockeyfan

OT:

Obama's waffles from the Scranton diner are for sale on EBay.

OBAMA SCRANTON PA DINER 4-21-08 CAMPAIGN BREAKFAST

Doesn't he know there are children going hungry in Kenya?!

Oh, the humanity of a half eaten waffle! Why won't he think of the children?!

103

MandyManners Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:52:28am

re: #99 Roger

Clinton is not known for his accuracy.

Ew.

104

Aristogiton Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:52:39am

Bottom line: Brigitte Bardot is not Oriana Fallaci, and comparing them can only tarnish the reputation and the character of the sorely missed Italian defendress of the West.

I fell into automatic Bardot support until I read the Frogman's post the other night. That was a service rendered.

Frogman 1, Belien 0.

105

Ben Hur Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:52:54am

re: #98 MandyManners

Even on blue dresses from the Gap?

Can you believe that shit?

Another thing people don't understand!

If it was Chanel, it would've been easier to accept.

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Shug Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:53:31am

re: #99 Roger

Clinton is not known for his accuracy.

Yes, he bombed the Chinese embassy

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Pastorius Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:53:40am

Belien's wife is a official in the Vlaams Belang, right?

It seems like that guy has done more than his share of damage to the counter-Jihad movement. A lot of people have been influenced by him.

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MandyManners Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:54:10am

re: #105 Ben Hur

Can you believe that shit?

Another thing people don't understand!

If it was Chanel, it would've been easier to accept.

Could she have afforded Chanel on an intern's salary?

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Creeping Eruption Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:54:40am

re: #100 MandyManners

They did.

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Sharmuta Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:54:55am

re: #106 Shug

Yes, he bombed the Chinese embassy

/

I'd have left off the sarc tag.

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Son of the Black Dog Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:55:23am

re: #85 CyanSnowHawk

I was referring to the whole blog fight, not just the single post at DF. I should have been more clear on that. But yes, I have learned that Europe is dealing with a lot more nutjobs, and more deeply entrenched nutjobs, than we seem to have over here. I wonder if our style of freedom of speech makes it too easy for our nutjobs to expose themselves before they really become entrenched? I'm sure that is one of many safeguards of our young republic.

Actually, I think it's their parliamentary form of government that allows small, fringe parties to gain a stronger foothold in the public debate by winning a few seats.

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Shug Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:55:37am

re: #110 Sharmuta

good point.

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incanus Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:56:15am

re: #48 CyanSnowHawk

You are not wrong. April 22, 1870 was the birthday of that tyrant.

Wow, what a coincidence.

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Honorary Yooper Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:56:23am

re: #102 Sharmuta

Doesn't he know there are children going hungry in Kenya?!

Oh, the humanity of a half eaten waffle! Why won't he think of the children?!

And the man doesn't know how to budget either. I mean, buy the waffles you're hungry for, not the waffles your eyes are hungry for.

Obama's bitten off more than he can chew and in more ways than just the waffle.

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maddogg Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:56:39am

re: #99 Roger

Clinton is not known for his accuracy.

Hey, its hard to shoot straight with a bent gun....especially a snubby.

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Ben Hur Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:56:48am

re: #108 MandyManners

No, but if it was some upper class worldy hottie in a hotel wearing Chanel, people could've "swallowed" (so to speak) the whole sordid affair a lot easier.

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adragonknowsbest Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:56:54am

re: #104 Aristogiton

Say it ain't so! Brigitte was heavenly in that old film And God Created Woman. Plus we share the same birthday. Oh well there's always Sophia Loren...

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Shug Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:58:36am

re: #115 maddogg

Hey, its hard to shoot straight with a bent gun....especially a snubby.

Hillary sawed it off

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adragonknowsbest Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:59:41am

re: #116 Ben Hur

Unless you're some doofus governor of New York. No swallowing just spitzing (right out of office).

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Syrah Tue, Apr 22, 2008 9:59:41am

re: #111 Son of the Black Dog

Actually, I think it's their parliamentary form of government that allows small, fringe parties to gain a stronger foothold in the public debate by winning a few seats.

It also makes a difference in that European nation states were created specifically as Ethnic enclaves, where as the US was an ethnically mixed enclave of classical liberalism.

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Sharmuta Tue, Apr 22, 2008 10:02:09am

So, Shaemus- what's the deal? You think belien's a classy guy standing up for fascists?

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Rin Tue, Apr 22, 2008 10:07:04am

OT. Hey, we've arrested a spy.

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Aristogiton Tue, Apr 22, 2008 10:07:08am

re: #120 Syrah

Classical liberalism! Yeah, that's it! Let's keep that! Hilarity and the Obamanation can keep their euro-socialist post-botherism.

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Dianna Tue, Apr 22, 2008 10:07:28am

re: #84 Charles

Low carbing?

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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Apr 22, 2008 10:12:16am

re: #122 Rin

OT. Hey, we've arrested a spy.

You gave us the link for an illegal alien sex offender border cross attempt arrest. Here is the spy story.

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Rin Tue, Apr 22, 2008 10:12:52am

Oops.

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realwest Tue, Apr 22, 2008 10:19:20am

re: #125 CyanSnowHawk This came up on another thread and I still have the same question: this spying was done nearly a quarter of a century ago and we just caught him NOW? Or have just decided to prosecute him NOW?
I really think there's something else going on with that story.
If Jimmy Carter is still in the ME, maybe we're hoping the Israelis will arrest Carter and then enter into a several years negotiation with us for a prisoner exchange?!

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Aristogiton Tue, Apr 22, 2008 10:21:00am

re: #117 adragonknowsbest

Say it ain't so! Brigitte was heavenly in that old film And God Created Woman. Plus we share the same birthday. Oh well there's always Sophia Loren...

Guess she's been reading some bad scripts lately.

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Roger Tue, Apr 22, 2008 10:27:50am

Say Belien, Dewinter never did provide a close up of the thing on his shelf and provide an explanation where it came from and what it means to him?

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Sharmuta Tue, Apr 22, 2008 10:28:12am

re: #111 Son of the Black Dog

Actually, I think it's their parliamentary form of government that allows small, fringe parties to gain a stronger foothold in the public debate by winning a few seats.

I agree with you (as well as Syrah's reply to you). Their parliamentary form gives way to coalition governments and with a few seats and a coalition, these people have a voice and power.

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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Apr 22, 2008 10:28:21am

re: #127 realwest

I can only imagine that some new evidence came to light. Either that or the Gov't was working at an unusually glacial pace. Perhaps Global Warming^TM loosened it up.

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Syrah Tue, Apr 22, 2008 10:34:23am

re: #130 Sharmuta

I agree with you (as well as Syrah's reply to you). Their parliamentary form gives way to coalition governments and with a few seats and a coalition, these people have a voice and power.

Proportional representation schemes give a louder voice to small minds then they deserve.

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Render Tue, Apr 22, 2008 11:13:13am

Frogman,

SALUTE,
R

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Athos Tue, Apr 22, 2008 11:28:42am

re: #3 lawhawk

Frogman nails it. Again.

Absolutely.

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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:05:29pm

DF is the only European blog I read. Kudos to Charles for the solidarity.

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Spiny Norman Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:14:04pm

If you like DF, iNo Pasaran! is another you need to check out.

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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:18:02pm

Thanks Spiny. I have read iNo Pasaran! once before, but frankly I forgot it was there. Bookmarked now.

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bcismar Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:37:10pm

I just wish people would stop referring to "Right wing Fascist" There is no such thin. All fascist are left wing. The ultra extreme of the right is anarchist.

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Silhouette Tue, Apr 22, 2008 12:59:41pm

re: #138 bcismar

I just wish people would stop referring to "Right wing Fascist" There is no such thin. All fascist are left wing. The ultra extreme of the right is anarchist.

I completely agree in that I am always tooting the "nationalism/racism does not equal right-wing" horn. Leftist try to play that game, and we fall right in with it. What is right-wing about the KKK? They seek to limit the personal liberty of people, and would use the power of the group to do it. That is left-wing.

But I would disagree with you on the conclusion on anarchists. If one thinks of the right-left scale as measuring governmental power, yes anarchism would ultra-right. But in reality, the right-left scale is measuring personal liberty. With anarchy, there is no personal liberty; it devolves to thug-rule, jungle law.

Governments are necessary to protect personal rights, like life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That is their only just purpose. For the rest, they should butt the heck out.

My humble opinion.

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NavyBrat Tue, Apr 22, 2008 1:18:42pm

Cheers to the Frogman!
Read his comments on the subject yesterday.
Nicely done, and fully agree.

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Charles Simmonds Tue, Apr 22, 2008 2:46:04pm

This vendetta that Charles Taylor is conducting against Belien and the Brussels Journal is the height of self-indulgence. What does Taylor know or care about Flanders or Flemish self-determination? Dear Taylor, please stop making a sanctimonious twit out of yourself... it's embarrassing.

Charles Simmonds

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Render Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:17:38pm

re: #141 Charles Simmonds

Ahem.

Embarrassing is not knowing the name of the person you're attempting to insult.

The former NBA player Charles (Chuck) Taylor that invented the second coolest sneakers on the planet is not the head lizard of LGF.

The former NFL player (Washington Redskins) and very cool guy named Charles (Charley) Taylor is not the head lizard of LGF.

The former leader of Liberia, warlord, war crimes suspect, and all around very uncool guy named Charles (shithead) Taylor is not the head lizard of LGF either.

Our fearless leaders name is Charles JOHNSON. Don't forget it.

===

It seems clear beyond measure that most of the readers of LGF know more about Flanders than most Europeans.

We know beyond any shadow of a doubt that Paul Belien and his Brussels Journal/desk are nothing but a propaganda mouthpiece for the Flemish white racist neo-nazi political party Vlamms Blok/Blang.

Dear Simmonds,

As politely as I can muster to a BNP maggot like yourself, piss off.

CHAINSAW
CHARLIE,
R

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justadot Tue, Apr 22, 2008 3:26:43pm

re: #142 Render

I was going to post something, but I like your comment better.
I almost dared him to call Charles Taylor a hedonist.

/shaking my head

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alacrityfitzhugh Tue, Apr 22, 2008 4:28:59pm

Any friend of America is a friend of mine. Viva le Frogman!

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Sharmuta Tue, Apr 22, 2008 7:24:18pm

re: #141 Charles Simmonds

Dear ~~Taylor~~ Simmonds, please stop making a sanctimonious twit out of yourself... it's embarrassing.

Just thought I'd fix it for you. Welcome to LGF- where we fact check your fascist lovin' ass.

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gunjam Tue, Apr 22, 2008 8:17:12pm

Truly remarkable: I see in this thread heightened concern -- showing the greatest possible sensitivity to danger -- about fascists in .... EUROPE, displayed alongside apparent simultaneous insouciance and obliviousness toward the naked fascism that is being played out right here in Texas with the 400-plus FLDS children that have been snatched from their parents and who are going to be farmed out to ... God knows where...."for their own good." That is pure evil.

Note to skeptical lizards: Not all fascists wear jackboots and speak in sinister European accents -- fascists can ALSO wear cowboy boots and speak with a broad Texas drawl.

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Sharmuta Tue, Apr 22, 2008 10:39:02pm

re: #146 gunjam

Many of us are well aware that some fascists come from Texas- we call him ron paul.

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Charles Simmonds Tue, Apr 22, 2008 11:58:01pm

Yes, I admit it. I got Charles Johnson mixed up with Charles Taylor, the homicidal Liberian warlord, and I would like to apologize sincerely to the latter for any offense caused.

Sharmuta's and Bender's comments say a lot about their own intellectual debilities but less than nothing about me. Keep on trucking, guys! :)

Charles Simmonds

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Sacred Plants Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:17:58am

re: #53 threecoloursblue

He's not giving nukes to Ghadaffi. You can't enrich uranium from the French reactors.

If you want to use nukes to power the giant steam engines for your electricity use, then the right way to go is not to corner the totalitarian markets as if there was no tomorrow, but to permanently solve the problem of the storage of the nuclear waste.

When Ronald Reagan said "a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this Earth" he might have been wrong. Nuclear waste is. I am not convinced that the half-life of the IAEA will come anyhow close to that of nuclear waste.

PS: Do you really expect Saif al-Islam al-Gaddafi would give up his pet tigers for Tiger helicopters?

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Syrah Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:06:26am

re: #141 Charles Simmonds

Ethnic Nationalism is for losers.

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Sharmuta Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:09:24am

re: #148 Charles Simmonds

Sharmuta's and Bender's comments say a lot about their own intellectual debilities but less than nothing about me. Keep on trucking, guys! :)

Gee- at least you got my name right. And as far as intellectual "debilities" are concerned, I didn't feel the need to say anything about your's- you did just fine on your own by aligning with fascist enablers....and their desk.