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PA Primary Thread 1

Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:31:13 pm PDT

The polls have closed in Pennsylvania, and by all accounts there was a record turnout for this Democratic primary. Here’s an open thread to discuss what may end up being Hillary’s Last Stand...

UPDATE at 4/22/08 6:39:03 pm:

It’s too soon to count Hillary out. She’s apparently won in Pennsylvania. This means we need to lay in some extra supplies of popcorn for the Democratic convention. Don’t forget the butter substitute.

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1 Ojoe  4/22/08 5:32:08 pm reply quote 2

Go typical white lady!

2 CyanSnowHawk  4/22/08 5:32:17 pm reply quote 0

I haven't seen any returns yet.

3 DesertSage  4/22/08 5:33:18 pm reply quote 4

Go Hillary!

can't believe I just said that

4 jcm  4/22/08 5:33:19 pm reply quote 1

Drudge...

TOO CLOSE TO CALL...
EXIT POLLS UNMOVED IN LAST BATCH 52-48 CLINTON...

PA Precincts Reporting 00%
CLINTON 0,000,000...
OBAMA...0,000,000

5 saberry0530  4/22/08 5:33:25 pm reply quote 5

May the fruits of "Operation Chaos" be realized tonight.

6 Colonel Panik  4/22/08 5:34:04 pm reply quote 0

Never thought I'd find myself rooting for the Hildebeast.

7 jcm  4/22/08 5:34:10 pm reply quote 1

re: #3 DesertSage

Go Hillary!

can't believe I just said that

Go Hillary.
Take it to Denver!

BAWHAHAHAHAHA!

8 M. Murcek  4/22/08 5:34:14 pm reply quote 0

We keep hearing about record turnout, but out here in Bitterville (Delmont, PA east of Pittsburgh) the turnout was unremarkable...

9 rabidsquirrel  4/22/08 5:34:49 pm reply quote 0

I'm stockpiling popcorn for the convention. Who's bringing the beer?

10 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  4/22/08 5:35:21 pm 1
11 DesertSage  4/22/08 5:35:40 pm reply quote 1

re: #8 M. Murcek

We keep hearing about record turnout, but out here in Bitterville (Delmont, PA east of Pittsburgh) the turnout was unremarkable...

That's because everyones either in church or cleaning their guns.

12 rabidsquirrel  4/22/08 5:35:44 pm reply quote 0

re: #8 M. Murcek

We keep hearing about record turnout, but out here in Bitterville (Delmont, PA east of Pittsburgh) the turnout was unremarkable...

Pennsylvanians are clinging to their apathy, as well as their guns and religion?

13 Ojoe  4/22/08 5:36:13 pm reply quote 0

Hillary is way smarter I hope she wins

14 ec marm  4/22/08 5:36:29 pm reply quote 0

re: #10 song_and_dance_man

B. Hussein or Cackle Rodham? I am betwixt two big lefty leaning thug huggers.


I know what you mean. I'm making up some "Draft Gore" mousepads.

15 Kosh's Shadow  4/22/08 5:36:43 pm reply quote 1

Thunderdome! (or is that the convention)

Let's hope the race stays really, really close, and they tear each other to shreds until the convention.

16 Racer X  4/22/08 5:36:48 pm reply quote 0
17 macintush  4/22/08 5:37:05 pm reply quote 0

Can we declare a winner, or a cheater yet?

18 Yankee Division Son  4/22/08 5:37:05 pm reply quote 3

Random thoughts..
Why is it with every other primary I've watched, results begin to come in the second the polls close. Not with PA. what's up with that?

Why does the whole world seem to think changing their icon/logo color to green will somehow save the planet?

Why, since Charles has had a green icon for years, does he seem to get no "eviro-cred" for it?

Maybe I should just eat my waffle...

19 VegasRick  4/22/08 5:37:57 pm reply quote 0

re: #3 DesertSage

Go Hillary!

can't believe I just said that

Me either!
Go Hillary!

20 RememberSekhmet?  4/22/08 5:38:11 pm reply quote 0

I am so surprised it is taking so long for results. Is PA deliberately embargoing results until they are all counted? Most states publish results as they arrive.

21 Ojoe  4/22/08 5:38:36 pm reply quote 0

I'd cross the street to avoid Obama

22 P. Aaron  4/22/08 5:39:18 pm reply quote 0

"Record Turnout" means the same Dems (dead & alive) voting over & over again.

24 CyanSnowHawk  4/22/08 5:39:31 pm reply quote 0

re: #18 Yankee Division Son

The MSM are in the throws of such a big Obamagasm that they have been thrown in a state of shock by returns that show HRC leading and possibly winning PA.

That's my theory.

25 RememberSekhmet?  4/22/08 5:39:33 pm reply quote 0

Outer Bugtussle, Pennsylvania may have 50 votes to count. If they have Scantrons or electronic voting machnes, it takes all of five minutes to count and report the numbers.

26 nyc redneck  4/22/08 5:39:42 pm reply quote 0

re: #5 saberry0530

May the fruits of "Operation Chaos" be realized tonight.

yes. the commander in chief of op chaos bid his troops to go forth and remember the alamo and the 300 and keep the battle going. it was a very moving speech.
lol

27 really grumpy big dog Johnson  4/22/08 5:39:52 pm reply quote 0

In early numbers Clinton is ahead almost 2 to 1. If that trend even remotely continues to a win of more than 10 points, then this thing is probably gonna go to a brokered convention.

I'm so torn up about that.

/laughing my ass off

28 rabidsquirrel  4/22/08 5:39:55 pm reply quote 1

Less than 1% reporting, Clinton leads 66% to 34%.

Call it!

29 VegasRick  4/22/08 5:40:21 pm reply quote 4

re: #20 RememberSekhmet?

I am so surprised it is taking so long for results. Is PA deliberately embargoing results until they are all counted? Most states publish results as they arrive.

They cling to the results in PA. At least the bitter voters do.

30 Ojoe  4/22/08 5:40:43 pm reply quote 0

re: #28 rabidsquirrel

Wu !

31 itellu3times  4/22/08 5:40:57 pm reply quote 0

re: #23 Edouard

Great link!

... and all 0 so far

32 really grumpy big dog Johnson  4/22/08 5:41:24 pm reply quote 0

re: #29 VegasRick

They cling to the results in PA. At least the bitter voters do.

Vegas, that's wickedly funny. Thank you!

33 nyc redneck  4/22/08 5:41:38 pm reply quote 0

re: #28 rabidsquirrel

Less than 1% reporting, Clinton leads 66% to 34%.

Call it!

that's the kind of numbers we like.

34 laxmatt1984  4/22/08 5:41:40 pm reply quote 0

So just curious: who here will not vote for McCain?

35 bikermailman  4/22/08 5:41:42 pm reply quote 1

re: #5 saberry0530

May the fruits of "Operation Chaos" be realized tonight.

So Say We All

36 Killgore Trout  4/22/08 5:41:52 pm reply quote 0

Change!

37 itellu3times  4/22/08 5:41:57 pm reply quote 0

re: #26 nyc redneck

yes. the commander in chief of op chaos bid his troops to go forth and remember the alamo and the 300 and keep the battle going. it was a very moving speech.
lol

Remember the Maine! Plymouth Rock! And The Golden Rule!

38 HelloDare  4/22/08 5:42:26 pm reply quote 0

re: #36 Killgore Trout

Change!

Waffles!

39 rabidsquirrel  4/22/08 5:42:43 pm reply quote 0

re: #36 Killgore Trout

Change!

Hope!

/you're it!

40 NoSubmission  4/22/08 5:43:20 pm reply quote 0

Obama still has seven months to say incredibly stupid things.

Go Hillary.

41 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  4/22/08 5:43:23 pm 0
42 laxmatt1984  4/22/08 5:43:24 pm reply quote 0

re: #18 Yankee Division Son

Not always. Missouri went down to the wire, as did Texas, Ohio, New Mexico, Iowa, New Hampshire, Connecticut, and Nevada.

43 Shiplord Kirel  4/22/08 5:43:33 pm reply quote 0

re: #9 rabidsquirrel

I'm stockpiling popcorn for the convention. Who's bringing the beer?

Moonbats have promised to "re-create '68" in the streets of Denver but I am expecting a bust.
Too bad, really, I had hoped to see the Denver cops repeat their Chicago colleagues' response to anarchist provocation.

44 itellu3times  4/22/08 5:43:40 pm reply quote 0

Uh-oh, guess who's still on the ballot, that's right, Luap Nor.

45 taxfreekiller  4/22/08 5:43:42 pm reply quote 1

Once upon a waffle time,
notwithstanding breakfast is done,
and they fried one another,
can I just have a few more,
waffles, and waffling.

Old lady Aunt Jahildie,
young change shift shifter
Commies all, main stream mutants,
down under the Constitution,
termite work a mouth full,

Vote, for me, me the vote,
you the tax mans enabler,
all commingled so's the best crook
on wall street can not suprime you
low enough to make the Social Security solvent.

46 rabidsquirrel  4/22/08 5:43:54 pm reply quote 0

Barry O's closing the gap. Fox News now reporting Clinton 65%, Obama 35%

47 Colonel Panik  4/22/08 5:43:55 pm reply quote 0

re: #21 Ojoe

I'd cross the street to avoid Obama

You typical, gun and religion clinging, xenophobic white person, you!

48 HelloDare  4/22/08 5:43:57 pm reply quote 0

re: #39 rabidsquirrel

Hope!

/you're it!

Waffles of Hope!

49 P. Aaron  4/22/08 5:44:16 pm reply quote 4

re: #34 laxmatt1984

So just curious: who here will not vote for McCain?

John McCain cannot give me a single reason why I should vote for him. However, both Hillary clinton and B. Hussein Obama give me at least 2 reasons to vote for McCain.


Not original but appropriate.

50 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  4/22/08 5:44:25 pm 1
51 bikermailman  4/22/08 5:44:59 pm reply quote 1

re: #37 itellu3times

Remember the Maine! Plymouth Rock! And The Golden Rule!

Just a little FYI, yesterday was the anniversary of the day that 'Remember the Alamo' came into being, San Jacinto Day, when the Texians routed Santa Anna.

52 brainwizard73  4/22/08 5:45:20 pm reply quote 0

re: #18 Yankee Division Son

You should see about getting a green waffle. Solves all your problems.

53 rabidsquirrel  4/22/08 5:45:30 pm reply quote 0

re: #41 song_and_dance_man

Er... that's TAG

In my defense, the Democratic primary race does bear a strong resemblance to most childrens' games.

54 rabidsquirrel  4/22/08 5:45:46 pm reply quote 1

Fox News just projected Hillary the winner.

55 NoSubmission  4/22/08 5:45:52 pm reply quote 7

Rotating title nomination!

'Why Can't I Just Eat My Waffle?'

56 witness  4/22/08 5:46:03 pm reply quote 0

Fox calls it for Billary

57 Yankee Division Son  4/22/08 5:46:04 pm reply quote 0

re: #52 brainwizard73

You should see about getting a green waffle. Solves all your problems.

See? That's why I come here! Brilliant!

58 gibsonz  4/22/08 5:46:15 pm reply quote 0

Wonder what kind of spin the Clinton camp will put on it if she happens to lose.

59 P. Aaron  4/22/08 5:46:27 pm reply quote 0

Even my kids don't like the Dems.

60 rabidsquirrel  4/22/08 5:46:56 pm reply quote 0

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel

Moonbats have promised to "re-create '68" in the streets of Denver but I am expecting a bust.
Too bad, really, I had hoped to see the Denver cops repeat their Chicago colleagues' response to anarchist provocation.

I'm still holding out hope.

61 wtc394  4/22/08 5:46:59 pm reply quote 0

re: #9 rabidsquirrel

I'm stockpiling popcorn for the convention. Who's bringing the beer?

62 nyc redneck  4/22/08 5:47:02 pm reply quote 0

re: #37 itellu3times

Remember the Maine! Plymouth Rock! And The Golden Rule!

i think op chaos did have an effect. if nothing else, it made the osama dems furious. and the ineffectual msm. who have been wrangling unsuccessfully to effect the outcome of every election forever.

63 Yankee Division Son  4/22/08 5:47:04 pm reply quote 0

re: #58 gibsonz

Wonder what kind of spin the Clinton camp will put on it if she happens to lose.

I think that would be classified "tail spin"

64 Intrepid  4/22/08 5:47:09 pm reply quote 0

So TH's are saying that if Hillary wins by double digits, it will re-vitalize her campaign simply because if Barack Obama out-spent her 4-1 AND STILL COULD NOT GET CLOSER THAN THAT, he will absolutely not be able to win in November.

Not to mention the percentage of Hillary backers who have said they will not vote for Obama if he is the candidate, but will vote for McCain.

It will be up to the Superdelegates (and how stupid a system is that, anyway?) to either go for the candidate with the most votes, or the candidate who has the better chance (aaack, aaack.....COUGH! Sorry, that was hard to type)

Fox now projects Clinton as winner. They also give the secret to making money on the stock market - buy low, sell high.

65 Colonel Panik  4/22/08 5:47:16 pm reply quote 4

re: #15 Kosh's Shadow

Thunderdome! (or is that the convention)

Let's hope the race stays really, really close, and they tear each other to shreds until the convention.

re: #15 Kosh's Shadow

Thunderdome! (or is that the convention)

Let's hope the race stays really, really close, and they tear each other to shreds until the convention.

"In this corner weighing in at 155 pounds wet, from Hyde Park, Chicago, Obama Bin Wafflin! "

"And in this corner, weighing in at.."

"Hey!"

"Um, an unspecified amount, the Chappaqua Cackler, Hill D. Beast!"

"ARE YOU READY TO RUUUUUUUUUUMBLE!?!?!"

66 RememberSekhmet?  4/22/08 5:47:26 pm reply quote 0

re: #46 rabidsquirrel

Barry O's closing the gap. Fox News now reporting Clinton 65%, Obama 35%

According to cnn.com, what's reporting is Philadelphia

67 EE  4/22/08 5:47:29 pm reply quote 0

Fox News projects that Hillary has won in Pennsylvania.

68 Edouard  4/22/08 5:47:48 pm reply quote 1

re: #58 gibsonz

Wonder what kind of spin the Clinton camp will put on it if she happens to lose.

No need for spin, as Fox has already called it for her.

69 rabidsquirrel  4/22/08 5:47:53 pm reply quote 0

re: #61 wtc394

What's the matter? Shy?

70 brainwizard73  4/22/08 5:48:00 pm reply quote 1

re: #57 Yankee Division Son

Second thought; not sure I want an "environmentally heathly waffle".

It probably tastes like fetid granola...Code Pink would love it.

71 itellu3times  4/22/08 5:48:11 pm reply quote 0

She has to beat the spread.

Er, so to speak.

72 hooligan  4/22/08 5:48:18 pm reply quote 2

I guess Obama just leggo his Eggo.

74 gibsonz  4/22/08 5:48:39 pm reply quote 0

re: #63 Yankee Division Son

Looks like she is going to hang on another month...typical Clinton,they just won`t go away!

75 FreeIowa  4/22/08 5:49:22 pm reply quote 4

The waffles are coming home to roost!
(Go Go Operation Chaos)

76 wtc394  4/22/08 5:49:26 pm reply quote 0

re: #61 wtc394

hmm not sure why my addition to the bringing the beer quote disapperared..
Instead of buying it, how about I brew up a batch of Ale, add some extra bitter hops and call it a typical white beer ? Would go well with pop corn

77 Edouard  4/22/08 5:49:28 pm reply quote 0

Finally getting some results on the Secy of State for Pennsylvania website I posted at #23. Hillary 74% to Jesus H Obama 26% in extraordinarily early returns :)

78 bikermailman  4/22/08 5:49:52 pm reply quote 0

re: #63 Yankee Division Son

I think that would be classified "tail spin"

I think she might have this reaction.

79 rabidsquirrel  4/22/08 5:49:54 pm reply quote 0

1% reporting, Clinton leads 60% to 40%.

80 Dar ul Harbarian  4/22/08 5:49:57 pm reply quote 3

re: #55 NoSubmission

Rotating title nomination!

'Why Can't I Just Eat My Waffle?'


I second that.

81 rabidsquirrel  4/22/08 5:50:30 pm reply quote 0

re: #76 wtc394

hmm not sure why my addition to the bringing the beer quote disapperared..
Instead of buying it, how about I brew up a batch of Ale, add some extra bitter hops and call it a typical white beer ? Would go well with pop corn

That idea promises both hope and change.

82 Yankee Division Son  4/22/08 5:50:38 pm reply quote 0

re: #74 gibsonz

Looks like she is going to hang on another month...typical Clinton,they just won`t go away!

And who would of thought that it might someday be "a good thing"?!

83 BBev  4/22/08 5:50:44 pm reply quote 1

re: #62 nyc redneck

i think op chaos did have an effect. if nothing else, it made the osama dems furious. and the ineffectual msm. who have been wrangling unsuccessfully to effect the outcome of every election forever.

Ya thank you for that. I started it all here in New Hampshire and did you see all the shit I got for doing it?

84 Buster Bunny  4/22/08 5:50:49 pm reply quote 1

screw this niceties ....

I know who I want in the Whitehouse this time next year.

OBAMA GIRL !

she has the issues, she has the tits .. she has the waffles ...

would she have me watching a presidential speech naked?

ABSOLUTELY

how many other presidential hopefuls can you say that about?

/forget the fact she aint actually running.

85 CyanSnowHawk  4/22/08 5:50:51 pm reply quote 0

re: #64 Intrepid

He outspent her 4:1?

I'm projecting the broadcasters as the Winner in PA.

86 brainwizard73  4/22/08 5:51:08 pm reply quote 0

re: #80 Dar ul Harbarian

How about:

"No Waffle, No Peace!"

87 witness  4/22/08 5:51:11 pm reply quote 0

re: #73 jcm

Notice this category "Vote By Religion and Attendance" no breakdown of Jewish vs. Muslim

88 taxfreekiller  4/22/08 5:51:29 pm reply quote 0

tfk did #45 on one, just one large glass of "bella sera", a pinot grigio
by Italy, choice of Ms TFK.

89 J.S.  4/22/08 5:51:32 pm reply quote 0

CNN is reporting that the exit polls they conducted were too close..so, they're calling it "competitive." So no projections -- only the actual votes...After the first few minutes, it's 60 percent Hillary, 30 Obama (approx.)..but it's still very early. (I'm hoping for a Hillary win. Go Hillary!)

90 mattm  4/22/08 5:51:42 pm reply quote 0

3% in 55/45 Hillary.

Go Hilary! (I can't believe I said that)

91 rabidsquirrel  4/22/08 5:51:54 pm reply quote 0

3% reporting; Lead drops to 55% to 45%.

92 sngnsgt  4/22/08 5:52:02 pm reply quote 0

Drudge Headline: Hillary Wins PA

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

93 bikermailman  4/22/08 5:52:04 pm reply quote 0

re: #85 CyanSnowHawk

He outspent her 4:1?

I'm projecting the broadcasters as the Winner in PA.

4:1 is the number I've been hearing for several days.

94 Athos  4/22/08 5:52:15 pm reply quote 0

The really interesting numbers were on FNC earlier - something like 19% of Hillary supporters would not vote for Obama in November, and 17% Obama supporters would not vote for Hillary in November.

Is that Hiarrrgggh from Dean the sound the party rendering?

95 Watcher  4/22/08 5:52:15 pm reply quote 0

Looks like Hildebeast wins with some impressive numbers.

96 wtc394  4/22/08 5:52:35 pm reply quote 0

re: #81 rabidsquirrel

That idea promises both hope and change.

Yes I can !

97 jetprop  4/22/08 5:52:45 pm reply quote 0

A much as it pains me to say this: GO Hillary!

98 mink  4/22/08 5:52:54 pm reply quote 0

Who cares about all this political mucky muck?

What matters is Game 7 - Go Sharks!

99 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  4/22/08 5:53:11 pm 0
100 RememberSekhmet?  4/22/08 5:53:25 pm reply quote 0
101 Shakey Jakey  4/22/08 5:53:29 pm reply quote 0

re: #93 bikermailman

I don't know how much he spent but every other commercial during the Flyers game was Obamas

102 Edouard  4/22/08 5:53:48 pm reply quote 0

re: #90 mattm

3% in 55/45 Hillary.

Go Hilary! (I can't believe I said that)

I can't say those words. "Beat BHO" sounds better to me

103 Intrepid  4/22/08 5:53:53 pm reply quote 1

re: #85 CyanSnowHawk

He outspent her 4:1?

I'm projecting the broadcasters as the Winner in PA.

Yep - he spent somewhere around 12/13 million in PA, she spent 3.

I've seen that in a couple of places..... ('Trep runs off to find links...)

104 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  4/22/08 5:53:53 pm 0
105 HelloDare  4/22/08 5:54:16 pm reply quote 0

re: #73 jcm

Real Clear Politics Raw exit poll data.

Did you see the numbers at the bottom?

Who they would vote for in November? Wow.

106 Edouard  4/22/08 5:54:24 pm reply quote 0

re: #100 RememberSekhmet?

Check it out

107 rignerd  4/22/08 5:54:25 pm reply quote 4

Hillary= Commando in Chief
Obama=Comrade in Che

108 Athos  4/22/08 5:54:41 pm reply quote 1

What with these annointed Democrat candidates for President and waffles?

Are they too elitist for pancakes? Were they.......Belgian waffles?

109 jetprop  4/22/08 5:54:46 pm reply quote 1

re: #102 Edouard

I can't say those words. "Beat BHO" sounds better to me


Heh.."BEAT BO!"

110 really grumpy big dog Johnson  4/22/08 5:55:01 pm reply quote 0

If Clinton divorces Clinton, will her chances of winning the GE suddenly and dramatically improve?

/I don't normally think this way...

111 Ma Sands  4/22/08 5:55:14 pm reply quote 0

re: #99 song_and_dance_man

It just might work..... :)

112 ted  4/22/08 5:55:30 pm reply quote 0

For the first time on LGF I find myself with nothing to say.

Charles ?

113 wtc394  4/22/08 5:55:36 pm reply quote 0

re: #106 Edouard

WOW -- Was supposed to be Barry's stronghold

nope, Barry would not fork out the street money. The cash used to buy the homeless/dead/repeat votes.

114 bikermailman  4/22/08 5:55:36 pm reply quote 0

re: #100 RememberSekhmet?

Check it out

Philadelphia goes for Clinton

Philly was the area that Obambi was counting on to keep the numbers close.

115 witness  4/22/08 5:55:46 pm reply quote 0

re: #110 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Only if he cries

116 brainwizard73  4/22/08 5:56:04 pm reply quote 0

re: #108 Athos

Probably had fresh blueberries in there, too. Elitist SOB.

117 the other amy  4/22/08 5:56:14 pm reply quote 0

Have y'all seen this yet?

[Link: videos.newsobserver.com...]

118 bikermailman  4/22/08 5:56:31 pm reply quote 0

re: #105 HelloDare

Did you see the numbers at the bottom?

Who they would vote for in November? Wow.

And how many would stay home. Goooooo Chaos!

119 rightymouse  4/22/08 5:56:37 pm reply quote 0

My well-educated but terribly moonbat parents who live in a small college town in PA voted for Obama today. They hate Hillary now which is amusing because they sure did love Bill when he was Prez. But Mom said that if Hillary became Prez that Bill would really be her VP on the side and it would be 'same old, same old'....her words.

120 mattm  4/22/08 5:56:42 pm reply quote 0

NBC/PMSNBC claims Hillary Won PA.

121 brainwizard73  4/22/08 5:56:43 pm reply quote 0

re: #113 wtc394

Probably from when he was a community organizer...

122 Shiplord Kirel  4/22/08 5:56:52 pm reply quote 1

re: #60 rabidsquirrel

I'm still holding out hope.


Unless I miss my guess, the "Recreate '68" mob will be trying to act out their own mythology of the 1968 Dem convention rather than the reality. That mythology holds that peaceful flower-children were viciously attacked by maniacal fascist thugs for daring to march and dissent and sing Kumbaya where fatcat delegates could see them.
Since that isn't what happened, there will be no re-creation. It will be an effort to act out a fantasy at best.

123 jcm  4/22/08 5:56:57 pm reply quote 0

re: #105 HelloDare

Did you see the numbers at the bottom?

Who they would vote for in November? Wow.

WOW indeed.

124 Intrepid  4/22/08 5:57:36 pm reply quote 0

re: #113 wtc394

nope, Barry would not fork out the street money. The cash used to buy the homeless/dead/repeat votes.

Those dead folks really hold out for a lot of dough, too.

125 Robert O.  4/22/08 5:57:47 pm reply quote 0

You can find CNN exit polls on this page:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Based on the gender breakdown, if you do the multiply-and-add for each candidate, Hillary looks to have won by about 5%. This is consistent with what polls were indicating.

126 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  4/22/08 5:58:10 pm 1
127 RememberSekhmet?  4/22/08 5:58:12 pm reply quote 0

re: #114 bikermailman

Philly was the area that Obambi was counting on to keep the numbers close.

YUP, which is why Fox and PMSNBC are calling PA for Clinton

128 galloping granny  4/22/08 5:58:30 pm reply quote 0

re: #123 jcm

WOW indeed.

What did those numbers say? . . . . been throwing a birthday party.

129 mattm  4/22/08 5:59:03 pm reply quote 0

re: #123 jcm

WOW indeed.

Wow is almost an understatement.....

130 Yankee Division Son  4/22/08 5:59:11 pm reply quote 0

Hillary beating Obama.. now that's a CHANGE! which brings Hillary HOPE!

A convention battle, resulting in a super delegate "selected" winner

/now you're gonna hear Howard Dean really scream

131 Colonel Panik  4/22/08 5:59:18 pm reply quote 0

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel

Unless I miss my guess, the "Recreate '68" mob will be trying to act out their own mythology of the 1968 Dem convention rather than the reality. That mythology holds that peaceful flower-children were viciously attacked by maniacal fascist thugs for daring to march and dissent and sing Kumbaya where fatcat delegates could see them.
Since that isn't what happened, there will be no re-creation. It will be an effort to act out a fantasy at best.


I hope they have one of those microwave crowd control thingies.
I'm looking forward to toasted moonbat.

132 really grumpy big dog Johnson  4/22/08 5:59:23 pm reply quote 0

re: #115 witness

Only if he cries

I'm greatly relieved.

133 HelloDare  4/22/08 5:59:43 pm reply quote 0

Barry's going to be crying in his waffles tomorrow morning.

134 RememberSekhmet?  4/22/08 6:00:24 pm reply quote 0

It's going by 1 or 2 points toward Obama in Central Philly. But still, it shouldn't even be that close.

135 mattm  4/22/08 6:00:30 pm reply quote 0

53/47 Hillary 5% in.....

136 nyc redneck  4/22/08 6:00:32 pm reply quote