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PA Primary Thread 2

Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:05:03 pm PDT

Another thread to discuss the deeper meanings of Hillary Clinton’s Pennsylvania primary win...

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1 DesertSage  4/22/08 7:05:36 pm reply quote

Waffles?

2 Reno911[deleted]  4/22/08 7:06:28 pm
3 Thanos  4/22/08 7:06:32 pm reply quote

Syrup?

4 Occasional Reader  4/22/08 7:06:34 pm reply quote

Now let us go then, you and I
when the new thread is spread out against the sky
like a patient aetherized upon a table

5 lawhawk  4/22/08 7:06:44 pm reply quote

There's deeper meaning? Sorry, but this is going to the convention - no doubt about it. Dean can scream all he wants (and I'm sure he's doing quite a bit of that to everyone within earshot at DNC hq), but there's no reason for either Obama or Clinton to step aside. Both have good reason to stick it out until the convention.

Which means that popcorn sales should spike soonly.

6 schultzw  4/22/08 7:06:54 pm reply quote

I'd go for a Belgian w/ strawberries and whipped cream from IHOP

7 eric  4/22/08 7:06:55 pm reply quote

Let's hope they keep this going into the Convention. Bloodied and broke.

8 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  4/22/08 7:07:01 pm reply quote

Shoot....I can't keep up.

9 nyc redneck  4/22/08 7:07:02 pm reply quote

i don't even like waffles.

10 jcm  4/22/08 7:07:05 pm reply quote

re: #1 DesertSage

Waffles?

Strawberries and whipped cream.

11 Thanos  4/22/08 7:07:09 pm reply quote

Unofficial Returns
*** 3,749 out of 9,162 Districts (40.92%) Reporting Statewide ***



President of the United States


Democratic Primary

Candidate Votes Percent
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM)
466,378 46.5%
CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)
535,783 53.5%

12 macintush  4/22/08 7:07:12 pm reply quote

Butter

13 DeliLama  4/22/08 7:07:13 pm reply quote

I wonder if the counting so far is swayed in any particular area (e.g. cities).

14 buzzsawmonkey  4/22/08 7:07:41 pm reply quote

I have to savor the memory of Eddie Cantor, in blackface, in the film "Whoopee!" singing "I'm making waffles" to the tune of "Makin' Whoopee."

15 macintush  4/22/08 7:07:48 pm reply quote

/I meant Bitter. I think

16 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  4/22/08 7:07:49 pm reply quote

re: #10 jcm

Strawberries and whipped cream.

And to think that on the last thread, the last comment I read was one word...

"Porn"

17 irongrampa  4/22/08 7:07:53 pm reply quote

By the time this circus plays out, millions of people may never touch popcorn again.

18 alteredbeat  4/22/08 7:07:55 pm reply quote

Guess PA was too "bitter" to proclaim the Obamessiah their savior.

19 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  4/22/08 7:07:58 pm
20 Thanos  4/22/08 7:08:02 pm reply quote

re: #13 DeliLama

I wonder if the counting so far is swayed in any particular area (e.g. cities).

You can see county by county here:

[Link: www.electionreturns.state.pa.us...]

21 VegasRick  4/22/08 7:08:19 pm reply quote

re: #6 schultzw

I'd go for a Belgian w/ strawberries and whipped cream from IHOP

I prefer Asian women but the strawberries and whipped cream would be fun!

22 nyc redneck  4/22/08 7:08:21 pm reply quote

re: #5 lawhawk

There's deeper meaning? Sorry, but this is going to the convention - no doubt about it. Dean can scream all he wants (and I'm sure he's doing quite a bit of that to everyone within earshot at DNC hq), but there's no reason for either Obama or Clinton to step aside. Both have good reason to stick it out until the convention.

Which means that popcorn sales should spike soonly.

i do love pop corn. hope that doesn't do for ethanol.

23 Occasional Reader  4/22/08 7:08:33 pm reply quote

re: #6 schultzw

I'd go for a Belgian w/ strawberries and whipped cream

What are you, Elliot Spitzer?

24 rabidfox  4/22/08 7:08:36 pm reply quote

I have to wonder where obama is getting his money. Hillary et al have numerous ties to the donating commuity but she's running really, really far behind.

25 MandyManners  4/22/08 7:08:49 pm reply quote

re: #15 macintush

/I meant Bitter. I think

Bitter butter?

26 Occasional Reader  4/22/08 7:08:57 pm reply quote

re: #12 macintush

Butter

Parkay.

27 Thanos  4/22/08 7:09:05 pm reply quote

Interesting

Unofficial Returns
*** 4,205 out of 9,263 Districts (45.40%) Reporting Statewide ***



President of the United States


Democratic Primary

Candidate Votes Percent
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM)
470,724 46.3%
CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)
11,374 53.7%
CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)
201,132 53.7%
CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)
333,955 53.7%

28 mitthrawnurdo  4/22/08 7:09:07 pm reply quote

There's absolutely more important things to talk about than Hill-Dawg winning PA (go, go, Operation Chaos!).

Such as this story:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

/can women benefit too?

29 schultzw  4/22/08 7:09:12 pm reply quote

re: #23 Occasional Reader

golly, you caught me!

30 macintush  4/22/08 7:09:14 pm reply quote

re: #25 MandyManners

Parkay?

31 opnion  4/22/08 7:09:18 pm reply quote

It is painful to see that broom stick pilot win , but a lot better than Barry.
I do hope that she bumps it to double figures & that the street fight continues.

32 nyc redneck  4/22/08 7:09:23 pm reply quote

i bet osama doesn't like waffles either.

33 macintush  4/22/08 7:09:34 pm reply quote

Dang - too slow

34 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  4/22/08 7:09:53 pm
35 winston06  4/22/08 7:10:01 pm reply quote

Socialist liar has beaten the Marxist rebel...

36 bosforus  4/22/08 7:10:08 pm reply quote

The first time I had butter on my pancakes at a restaurant I thought it was ice cream and bit into it. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

37 EE  4/22/08 7:10:17 pm reply quote

"Moments" away from Hillary's victory speech...

38 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  4/22/08 7:10:21 pm
39 mitthrawnurdo  4/22/08 7:10:21 pm reply quote

re: #35 winston06

Whoever wins..we lose.

40 Opilio  4/22/08 7:10:25 pm reply quote

C: 618,590 54%
O: 529,485 46%

55% counted

41 Genosaurer  4/22/08 7:10:47 pm reply quote

I was excited just by the fact that it was still in contention when primary voting finally got around to us in Pennsylvania. First time that's happened since I started voting.

42 ModerateWolverine  4/22/08 7:10:47 pm reply quote

re: #13 DeliLama

I wonder if the counting so far is swayed in any particular area (e.g. cities).

I think at the moment about 70% of Philadelphia has been counted. That skews it a touch.

43 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  4/22/08 7:10:51 pm
44 Elydo  4/22/08 7:10:51 pm reply quote

Client #9 visits IHOP...

45 Occasional Reader  4/22/08 7:11:03 pm reply quote

re: #38 song_and_dance_man

Huma is pleased this night.

[OR's mind begins racing]

46 buzzsawmonkey  4/22/08 7:11:04 pm reply quote

So Pennsylvania votes for Clint-O-Care instead of for Oba-Medical?

47 macintush  4/22/08 7:11:07 pm reply quote

I'd probly not mention the brand of syrup I grew up with, but it's name started with "Aunt"

At least its not Obama's Gramma

48 mama winger  4/22/08 7:11:25 pm reply quote

re: #43 song_and_dance_man

Denver here we come.

I think your faves beat my faves.

49 katemaclaren  4/22/08 7:11:44 pm reply quote

re: #4 Occasional Reader

Now let us go then, you and I
when the new thread is spread out against the sky
like a patient aetherized upon a table

This reminds me of a cartoon in the New Yorker many a year ago (no, not in a kingdom by the sea). All these surgeons were looking down at an operating table where a patient (etherizied) lay. The caption? One surgeon is saying to the others:
"Doesn't that look just like evening spread out against the sky?"
I had just read Eliot's Prufrock, so I really enjoyed the fact that I "got" it.

50 Thanos  4/22/08 7:11:47 pm reply quote

Unofficial Returns
*** 4,484 out of 9,263 Districts (48.41%) Reporting Statewide ***



President of the United States


Democratic Primary

Candidate Votes Percent
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM)
480,233 46.1%
CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)
562,390 53.9%

51 schultzw  4/22/08 7:11:53 pm reply quote

re: #44 Elydo

when you pay as much as you do for, ahem, the services, the dining's gotta be cheaper!

52 mean Gene  4/22/08 7:12:05 pm reply quote

With 57% in she's pulled to a 10% lead.
She needed that.

53 nyc redneck  4/22/08 7:12:33 pm reply quote

re: #35 winston06

Socialist liar has beaten the Marxist rebel...

why don't i feel happy? :(

54 Thanos  4/22/08 7:12:40 pm reply quote

re: #49 katemaclaren

This reminds me of a cartoon in the New Yorker many a year ago (no, not in a kingdom by the sea). All these surgeons were looking down at an operating table where a patient (etherizied) lay. The caption? One surgeon is saying to the others:
"Doesn't that look just like evening spread out against the sky?"
I had just read Eliot's Prufrock, so I really enjoyed the fact that I "got" it.

Annabell Lee

55 mikeinmd  4/22/08 7:12:40 pm reply quote

Chris Matthews is preparing his commentary. Hehe.

56 Grammy Cracker  4/22/08 7:12:43 pm reply quote

re: #28 mitthrawnurdo

There's absolutely more important things to talk about than Hill-Dawg winning PA (go, go, Operation Chaos!).

Such as this story:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

/can women benefit too?

I see no reason to take unnecessary risks. If it might help.....

/whatdayamean I don't have a prostate?!

57 Occasional Reader  4/22/08 7:12:56 pm reply quote

re: #47 macintush

I'd probly not mention the brand of syrup I grew up with, but it's name started with "Aunt"

At least its not Obama's Gramma

Remember that they PC'd Aunt J_____ some years back. She no longer sports the "Mammy from Gone With the Wind" look, but is just dressed up like a nice, matronly lady. IIRC.

So, say it once, say it loud; I put Aunt Jemima on my waffles, and I'm proud.

58 MandyManners  4/22/08 7:13:25 pm reply quote

I wonder if WAB is throwing things yet. Does she have a waffle iron?

59 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  4/22/08 7:13:29 pm reply quote

re: #54 Thanos

60 Opilio  4/22/08 7:14:03 pm reply quote

re: #42 ModerateWolverine

I think at the moment about 70% of Philadelphia has been counted. That skews it a touch.

Philly's now 84% counted. Clinton's lead should gradually grow for the rest of the night.

61 buzzsawmonkey  4/22/08 7:14:18 pm reply quote

Believe it or not, I was talking to someone yesterday who said that Hillary was really a Goldwater Republican at heart--citing her collegiate-era flailings in that direction.

62 bellamags  4/22/08 7:14:19 pm reply quote

Do you see the guy with the boxing gloves?

63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  4/22/08 7:14:22 pm reply quote

re: #59 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks. My favorite poem.

Hey! Poem begins with Poe. Apropos.

64 mikeinmd  4/22/08 7:14:22 pm reply quote

re: #43 song_and_dance_man

Denver here we come.

And "5150 at 5280" ain't Van Hagar comin' back to town.

65 nyc redneck  4/22/08 7:14:24 pm reply quote

i do like pan cakes. bet he does too.

66 Occasional Reader  4/22/08 7:14:34 pm reply quote

re: #49 katemaclaren

This reminds me of a cartoon in the New Yorker many a year ago (no, not in a kingdom by the sea). All these surgeons were looking down at an operating table where a patient (etherizied) lay. The caption? One surgeon is saying to the others:
"Doesn't that look just like evening spread out against the sky?"
I had just read Eliot's Prufrock, so I really enjoyed the fact that I "got" it.

Not bad.

My favorite New Yorker cartoon, however, continues to be the elegantly simple: "Fusilli, you crazy bastard! How the hell are you?" [spoken by a penne pasta noodle answering the telephone]

67 Thanos  4/22/08 7:14:43 pm reply quote

Unofficial Returns
*** 4,484 out of 9,263 Districts (48.41%) Reporting Statewide ***



President of the United States


Democratic Primary

Candidate Votes Percent
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM)
520,256 47.2%
CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)
582,933 52.8%

68 Thanos  4/22/08 7:15:05 pm reply quote

re: #59 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


Welcome :)

69 bellamags  4/22/08 7:15:06 pm reply quote

She won - Bills allowed out of his pet taxi.

70 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  4/22/08 7:15:06 pm
71 NJDhockeyfan  4/22/08 7:15:39 pm reply quote

re: #28 mitthrawnurdo

There's absolutely more important things to talk about than Hill-Dawg winning PA (go, go, Operation Chaos!).

Such as this story:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

/can women benefit too?

Sure. They are welcome to lend a hand anytime. :)

72 Cartman  4/22/08 7:15:45 pm reply quote

It's so hard to type and eat my waffle, whilst I bitterly cling to my Five-Seven and my Bible. Damn.

73 rawmuse  4/22/08 7:15:48 pm reply quote

It's the Revenge of the Bitter, Clingy Waffles.

74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  4/22/08 7:16:06 pm reply quote

re: #66 Occasional Reader

Not bad.

My favorite New Yorker cartoon, however, continues to be the elegantly simple: "Fusilli, you crazy bastard! How the hell are you?" [spoken by a penne pasta noodle answering the telephone]

My favorite...Old man sitting on park bench next to young man, says..."There's been a lot of changes in this town. And I've fought every damn one of them!"

75 Sarge1984  4/22/08 7:16:10 pm reply quote

re: #62 bellamags

Do you see the guy with the boxing gloves?

Nomination for rotating title, anyone?

76 Grammy Cracker  4/22/08 7:16:17 pm reply quote

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

Believe it or not, I was talking to someone yesterday who said that Hillary was really a Goldwater Republican at heart--citing her collegiate-era flailings in that direction.

Oh puuuulllleeeesssseeee! In college, I campaigned for Mo effen Udall!

/now I'm just slightly to the right of Attila the Hun! LOL

77 Opilio  4/22/08 7:16:21 pm reply quote

C: 682,218 54%
O: 579,883 46%

59% counted

78 defund_NPR  4/22/08 7:16:28 pm reply quote

Pour some maple syrup on me - I'm done.

Real maple syrup is one on the best things to come out of VT, excluding Leahy, of course.

/

79 joecitizen  4/22/08 7:16:34 pm reply quote

Clinton/Rendell ?

80 nigella  4/22/08 7:16:38 pm reply quote

Redneck, I'm with you on this. It's hard to be happy when one of these two wins. I just want them to keep slinging the mud for as long as possible.We are going to need all the help we can get with the MSM thoroughly behind Obama, and intent on destroying McCain.Every day its' a new hit piece on McCain and the contest hasn't even really begun. Lord help us all if either one of these Dhimmis become President.

81 VegasRick  4/22/08 7:16:38 pm reply quote

re: #60 Opilio

Philly's now 84% counted. Clinton's lead should gradually grow for the rest of the night.

I take it the folks in Philly aren't bitter and clinging to their guns?

82 Occasional Reader  4/22/08 7:16:39 pm reply quote

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

Believe it or not, I was talking to someone yesterday who said that Hillary was really a Goldwater Republican at heart--citing her collegiate-era flailings in that direction.

Yes, and I was Mr. Universe in 1985.

83 macintush  4/22/08 7:16:44 pm reply quote

"Aunt Jemima Pancakes (Waffles, too, I guess)
without her syrup,
Is like the spring without the fall-"

"There's only one thing worse
In this Universe;
And that's no Aunt Jemima at all"

84 Dahveed  4/22/08 7:17:19 pm reply quote

She should be thanking Rush big time!

85 USBeast  4/22/08 7:17:30 pm reply quote

Hillary has just stepped up on the podium.

Almighty Father please save us from this Satanic Bitch.

86 buzzsawmonkey  4/22/08 7:17:32 pm reply quote

re: #76 Grammy Cracker

I'm not saying I believed him; I'm just saying what someone--a former Marine, no less--said to me.

87 mikalm  4/22/08 7:17:37 pm reply quote

re: #64 mikeinmd

Nope...more like late-60s Rolling Stones:

"Coz summer's here
And the time is right
For fighting in the streets, boy..."

88 schultzw  4/22/08 7:17:39 pm reply quote

"Yes we can!" the mob cries...

89 Sharmuta  4/22/08 7:17:46 pm reply quote

Maybe obaba should have had his Wheaties.

90 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  4/22/08 7:17:47 pm
91 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  4/22/08 7:17:47 pm reply quote

re: #83 macintush

Mrs. Butterworth's freaking rocks!

92 Mich-again  4/22/08 7:17:48 pm reply quote

Reverend Jemimah?

93 bikermailman  4/22/08 7:17:56 pm reply quote

re: #64 mikeinmd

And "5150 at 5280" ain't Van Hagar comin' back to town.

Now that's funny!

94 wanumba  4/22/08 7:18:06 pm reply quote

Huh.
Hard to predict. If it was Dem versus GOP, it'd be GOP solidly ahead all day long, statewide, then at 11:07 pm after all the polls are closed, the city results tsumani in, closing, erasing, then reversing the GOP's numbers. End of the day, the Dem wins.

But, this time it's Dem versus Dem. WHo gets the city tsunami, who gets the statewide? Or do they split normal-like as if no one is manipulating results?

95 LEGION  4/22/08 7:18:12 pm reply quote

re: #82 Occasional Reader

Yeah, her dad was an ardent Republican and she was Prex of the Republican club in college! Then the forces of evil took her over----

96 badger1  4/22/08 7:18:23 pm reply quote

Perhaps we should have a special LGF party in Denver and watch as the Democrats burn down their own house.

Thoughts?

I'll bring the beer.

97 Sharmuta  4/22/08 7:18:23 pm reply quote

re: #84 Dahveed

She should be thanking Rush big time!

I think she should thank obama and his stupid mouth.

98 buzzsawmonkey  4/22/08 7:18:24 pm reply quote

re: #82 Occasional Reader

Yes, and I was Mr. Universe in 1985.

Couldn't you have been a little more modest and gone for Mr. Galaxy?

99 bosforus  4/22/08 7:18:32 pm reply quote

Where's Obama during all of this. Snacking?
Why can't I just eat my ho-ho's?

100 macintush  4/22/08 7:18:34 pm reply quote

re: #91 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mrs. Butterworth's freaking rocks!

but what kinda SONG has she got?

101 VegasRick  4/22/08 7:18:48 pm reply quote

re: #99 bosforus

Where's Obama during all of this. Snacking?
Why can't I just eat my ho-ho's?

LOL!

102 joecitizen  4/22/08 7:18:58 pm reply quote

did the obamasiah speak yet?

103 Mich-again  4/22/08 7:19:05 pm reply quote

re: #96 badger1

I know Pete Coors Jr. He owes me a few beers. I'll tell him to bring a truck!

104 bombarafat  4/22/08 7:19:09 pm reply quote

Why waffles? Most people who go to the glider diner in Scranton get the roast beef.

105 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  4/22/08 7:19:09 pm reply quote

re: #96 badger1

Three-hundred-sixty-five-degrees!

106 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  4/22/08 7:19:20 pm
107 buzzsawmonkey  4/22/08 7:19:27 pm reply quote

re: #99 bosforus

Where's Obama during all of this. Snacking?
Why can't I just eat my ho-ho's?

Please, let us not sully the Obama candidacy by indulging in stereotypical rap language.

108 Elydo  4/22/08 7:19:36 pm reply quote

Watching Shrillary's speech on Fox, that guy behind her with the boxing gloves looks like he's itching for... something...

109 Mich-again  4/22/08 7:19:52 pm reply quote

Just let me roll another damn gutter ball!

110 IslandLibertarian  4/22/08 7:19:59 pm reply quote

re: #74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My favorite...Old man sitting on park bench next to young man, says..."There's been a lot of changes in this town. And I've fought every damn one of them!"

My fovorie:
An old man driving, shaking his fist at a "YIELD" sign, and exclaiming "Never!"

Power to the Correct People!
(They don't give in.)

111 JeremyR  4/22/08 7:20:00 pm reply quote

re: #96 badger1

Perhaps we should have a special LGF party in Denver and watch as the Democrats burn down their own house.

Thoughts?

I'll bring the beer.

Too bad the convention isn't in Boulder, moonbat capital of the midwest.

112 Grammy Cracker  4/22/08 7:20:12 pm reply quote

re: #86 buzzsawmonkey

I'm not saying I believed him; I'm just saying what someone--a former Marine, no less--said to me.

I know....if you ever see him again, pass on my sentiments, will you?

/GACK! A Marine? I need more wine....

113 opnion  4/22/08 7:20:32 pm reply quote

It appears that that Pittsburg & Philadelphia are reporting faster than the rest of the state. Fox says that Barry is under 55% in Philly. Not good.
The Wilkes Barre area is about 88%, Hillary.
Yo Barry, the bitter, bible thumpin , gun nut, crackers are not happy.
You play better in Marin County.

114 Thanos  4/22/08 7:20:40 pm reply quote

Hillary appears to be really shellacking Obama everywhere but Dauphin, Lancaster, Lebanon, and Chester counties.

115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  4/22/08 7:20:41 pm reply quote

re: #110 IslandLibertarian

Nice!

116 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  4/22/08 7:20:50 pm
117 Jim in Virginia  4/22/08 7:20:53 pm reply quote

re: #57 Occasional Reader

Aunt Jemima

118 badger1  4/22/08 7:21:12 pm reply quote

re: #103 Mich-again

Outstanding! Good beer, popcorn, and a LGF party to view the fireworks.

119 schultzw  4/22/08 7:21:17 pm reply quote

re: #103 Mich-again

I'm not a fan of much domestic beer, with The Beer of Exceptional Quality as the exception

120 Mich-again  4/22/08 7:21:28 pm reply quote

re: #113 opnion

It appears that that Pittsburg & Philadelphia are reporting faster than the rest of the state. Fox says that Barry is under 55% in Philly. Not good.
The Wilkes Barre area is about 88%, Hillary.
Yo Barry, the bitter, bible thumpin , gun nut, crackers are not happy.
You play better in Marin County.

Barry the elitist does best in the rich white burbs. You know, Reverend Wright's homies.

121 zmdavid  4/22/08 7:21:31 pm reply quote

re: #86 buzzsawmonkey

I'm not saying I believed him; I'm just saying what someone--a former Marine, no less--said to me.


Murtha?

122 buzzsawmonkey  4/22/08 7:21:36 pm reply quote

re: #116 song_and_dance_man

I'm offended. I know a bit of street cred Ebonics.

I've heard a lot of street crud myself.

Oh, wait...

123 19kilo  4/22/08 7:21:54 pm reply quote

This big of a win will help close obama's popular vote lead.

124 buzzsawmonkey  4/22/08 7:22:02 pm reply quote

re: #121 zmdavid

Alas, someone else.

125 Dahveed  4/22/08 7:22:03 pm reply quote

G-d Forbid!
G-d Forbid!
G-d Forbid!

126 bellamags  4/22/08 7:22:16 pm