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Wednesday Early Morning Open

Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:09:12 am PDT

Outside of a dog, a book is man’s best friend.  Inside of a dog it’s too dark to read.

Groucho Marx

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1 hayseed  4/23/08 3:11:53 am reply quote 0

a day late and a dollar short

2 BlueCanuck  4/23/08 3:12:07 am reply quote 4

I once shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into them I will never know.

------Groucho Marx

One of the best vaudevillian comedians in my opinion. Goooood Morning LGF!

3 hayseed  4/23/08 3:13:08 am reply quote 0

from the last thread it's ice age we have to worry about

4 Teacake!  4/23/08 3:14:17 am reply quote 0

ITs a bit after 5 am here in new orleans and as usual, can't sleep through the night. Either Charles is up early or late.

5 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 3:14:22 am reply quote 0

Good morning dead-threaders, though I suppose since this is an open thread it isn't dead.

59 degrees already with a high near 80 today in the greater metropolitan Doraville area. Cat is staring at me ominously.

6 2senseplain  4/23/08 3:15:33 am reply quote 0

re: #3 hayseed

From the last thread, could you Express Mail some of that out this way before we melt in the heat?

7 BlueCanuck  4/23/08 3:15:57 am reply quote 0

re: #5 Lucius Septimius

It's a little under 13° C here in T.O. just had a sudden downpour interspersed with thunder and lightning. I love this weather.

/no really, I do. :)

8 Teacake!  4/23/08 3:16:32 am reply quote 0

What I don't understand is why with all the scary developments about obama, why hill isn't having a bigger lead. I'm not voting for either for sure, but if I were her, I would be really mad that this guy just comes out of nowhere after all the years of her paying her dues.

9 hayseed  4/23/08 3:16:44 am reply quote 0

re: #5 Lucius Septimius

planted tomatoes yesterday,gonna do peppers today. I love hot weather,my joints move a little better.lol

10 BlueCanuck  4/23/08 3:17:00 am reply quote 0

re: #3 hayseed

Yeah, I read a longer article on that along with pictures of the clear sun. It's going to be an interesting few decades.

11 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 3:17:08 am reply quote 0

re: #3 hayseed

from the last thread it's ice age we have to worry about

A long, long time ago I had a course in college on Ice Ages, and that was the prediction then. The projections we were shown even made room for "man-made global warming" but showed that as a short upward blip in a long-term descent into the cold.

12 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 3:18:28 am reply quote 0

re: #9 hayseed

I am enjoying the warmer weather, though I had to give up the joints after I reached a certain age.

13 Teacake!  4/23/08 3:19:04 am reply quote 0

Don't like cold weather! THunder and lightning, yes

14 goddessoftheclassroom  4/23/08 3:19:51 am reply quote 0

Lucius Septimius

We did Act III of R&J yesterday (the scene where Tybalt kills Mercutio and Romeo kills Tybalt). As soon as the kids saw the foam swords, almost al the hands were in the air volunteering to act!

15 Teacake!  4/23/08 3:20:40 am reply quote 0

My energy bills were about $40 each month up until 3 or 4 months ago and are over $100! Not that much different useage either.

16 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 3:21:48 am reply quote 0

re: #7 BlueCanuck

It's a little under 13° C here in T.O. just had a sudden downpour interspersed with thunder and lightning. I love this weather.

/no really, I do. :)

When you posted that temp I did a double take; then I looked at the map. It's really warmed up there quickly. It wasn't that long ago that ya'll had snow on the ground.

17 rightside  4/23/08 3:23:33 am reply quote 1

re: #14 goddessoftheclassroom

Lucius Septimius

We did Act III of R&J yesterday (the scene where Tybalt kills Mercutio and Romeo kills Tybalt). As soon as the kids saw the foam swords, almost al the hands were in the air volunteering to act!

That's because there are no guns to cling to...

18 BlueCanuck  4/23/08 3:23:49 am reply quote 0

re: #16 Lucius Septimius

Yes it did. We have been having unseasonably warm temperatures here for the past week or so. But to balance it out, Calgary got a lot snow last week.

19 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 3:25:04 am reply quote 0

re: #14 goddessoftheclassroom

Hope nobody got hurt. That's actually a pretty intense scene.

Most of my classes have student presentations this week; my Vikings class is reading the saga of Harald Hardrada of Norway who ends up being killed at Stamford bridge in 1066, the first of two invasions of England that year. Today Harald is in the Mediterranean fighting the Saracens.

Only five more days of class. Yippee.

20 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 3:25:30 am reply quote 0

re: #17 rightside

That's because there are no guns to cling to...

They may be angry, but they're not bitter.

21 goddessoftheclassroom  4/23/08 3:25:41 am reply quote 0

re: #17 rightside

That's because there are no guns to cling to...

OMG--ROTFL!

What was even funnier to me is that most of the kids read pretty well but without any characterization, Suddenly, the girl playing Lady Montague gets up there and WAS the character. My head swiveled around and I got goosebumps, I said, "Finally someone is really ACTING." Then all the guys (most of whom were bodies on the floor by this time) sat up and started protesting about how dramatic they were.

I love my job.

22 Teacake!  4/23/08 3:26:52 am reply quote 0

Just before I woke up I had a dream I was talking to the Queen on the phone, too bad I can't recall what the conversation was. LOL

23 BlueCanuck  4/23/08 3:28:27 am reply quote 0

re: #21 goddessoftheclassroom

Best english class I had was in college. We were broken into groups to act out scenes from Macbeth. I was grouped with four Chinese students on student visas. We did the scene were Macbeth and Banquo meet the three witches. Took a week, but I almost got them to speak King James english for the class.

24 freetoken  4/23/08 3:31:33 am reply quote 0

re: #3 hayseed

Ice ages are not caused by lack of sunspots.

25 Teacake!  4/23/08 3:31:47 am reply quote 0

This site might be a parody, but not sure. obama the messiah [Link: obamamessiah.blogspot.com...]

26 goddessoftheclassroom  4/23/08 3:32:44 am reply quote 0

re: #23 BlueCanuck

Best english class I had was in college. We were broken into groups to act out scenes from Macbeth. I was grouped with four Chinese students on student visas. We did the scene were Macbeth and Banquo meet the three witches. Took a week, but I almost got them to speak King James english for the class.

What a great story! I'm giggling at the thought of the lines recited with a Chinese accent!

I would LOVE to play Lady Macbeth some day, or at least one of the witches, I do a terrific (IMHO) witch voice.

/as my students will solemnly acknowledge
/and yes, that is a "w."

27 carridine  4/23/08 3:34:23 am reply quote 0

Sheesh! I just get online, and this 'minor typhoon' starts a black, blowy downpour...

I can't risk another hit while I'm connected to modem... last time FRIED two hard-disks!

BBIAW....

Bangkok out

28 galloping granny  4/23/08 3:35:07 am reply quote 0

re: #9 hayseed

planted tomatoes yesterday,gonna do peppers today. I love hot weather,my joints move a little better.lol

I am SO jealous! Though mine are getting ready, living outside days. And today I am planting snow peas and chard and lettuces and carrots and radishes and spinach and whatever other early crops I have hidden up. First daffodil is blooming this morning.

29 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 3:35:27 am reply quote 0

re: #26 goddessoftheclassroom


I do a terrific (IMHO) witch voice.

Hopefully you can't pull off those spells I was reading about on an earlier thread.

30 NR Pax  4/23/08 3:36:11 am reply quote 1

My favorite English class was AP English in my Senior Year of high school back in...

...ok, it was a while ago. Let's just stop there.

But the highlight was the school trip to the Ashland Shakespeare Festival. Not only caught a few shows but got to meet the actors before them and learn a few things from them.

31 BlueCanuck  4/23/08 3:36:12 am reply quote 0

re: #26 goddessoftheclassroom

The best part was explaining the language and meanings to them. Poor people, I think they were having a hard enough time with modern english.

32 goddessoftheclassroom  4/23/08 3:36:56 am reply quote 0

re: #29 Lucius Septimius

Hopefully you can't pull off those spells I was reading about on an earlier thread.

Well, my glare has been known to make a student stand, walk to the trash can, and throw away his or her gum without my saying a word. It also makes them stop talking.

Now if I can only get it to make them study and complete all their work well...

33 hayseed  4/23/08 3:38:25 am reply quote 0

re: #24 freetoken

it was the lack of sun spots....well anyway I saw it on the innernut so it must be true.lol

34 storagemanager  4/23/08 3:40:22 am reply quote 0

penis snatching and a Hill-Billy win....I miss everything!

35 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 3:41:05 am reply quote 0

A little tidbit from yesterday's BotW (since the bitter guns thing has come up).

In the wake of Barack Obama's "bitter" brouhaha, some have defended him by arguing that what he said was true, or at least arguably so. Reader Rob Coker has a terrific analogy that helps explain why the comments were objectionable anyway:

It reminded me of a recent counseling class when different factors that make one irritable were being discussed. Women's hormonal cycles were brought up with the warning that even though that could be the source of a woman's being grumpy/offended, it was not best to say so to one's wife when she was annoyed at you. Why? The reason is that it invalidates her having genuine reason to be offended--there's something wrong with her for being hurt--and denies your responsibility in that. It's patronizing.

It is possible that economic hardship has indeed resulted in certain people clinging to God and guns and being resentful of immigrants. However, the underlying assertion is the same as above, namely that there is something wrong with the rural Pennsylvanians thinking the way they do, that it is obviously an indefensible position, and so there must be some external reason causing them to act so bizarrely.

I find it ironic that such "brilliant" people feel free to use psychological explanations on others and think they are being so smart, while they violate a basic principle of psychology and counseling by invalidating those they are explaining.

36 rightside  4/23/08 3:41:19 am reply quote 0

re: #28 galloping granny

What!? no arugula? Have you seen what the price of arugula is at whole foods lately?

37 freetoken  4/23/08 3:43:57 am reply quote 0

re: #33 hayseed

There are always a variety of internet stories... that is the problem with the internet - low signal to noise ratio.

If you are interested in the topic of the timing of ice ages, here is a description of Milankovitch cycles, that might prove useful to you in delving into the subject.

38 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 3:45:22 am reply quote 0

re: #32 goddessoftheclassroom

Well, my glare has been known to make a student stand, walk to the trash can, and throw away his or her gum without my saying a word. It also makes them stop talking.

Now if I can only get it to make them study and complete all their work well...

Good luck with that. In one of my classes the students are all supposed to do presentations in the last week. Two students stopped coming to class a while ago and two more didn't show up for their presentations or turn in the rough drafts of their papers. I find myself asking "what are they thinking?" As it stands, I have four people in that class who are staring an F in the face. And I know what I'll get as an excuse -- "I'm depressed" or some such.

Whenever I hear that, I want to say "yes, and if I were as much of a f***-up as you are, I'd be depressed too."

39 NR Pax  4/23/08 3:46:41 am reply quote 0

re: #38 Lucius Septimius

Whenever I hear that, I want to say "yes, and if I were as much of a f***-up as you are, I'd be depressed too."

If you actually say that to a student, I'll chip in for your legal defense to help you keep your job. -:-)

40 opnion  4/23/08 3:47:38 am reply quote 0

re: #25 Teacake!

This site might be a parody, but not sure. obama the messiah [Link: obamamessiah.blogspot.com...]

Good morning Lizards.
While those with clear eyesight see Barry as a hustler involved in a con , the true believer sees Messiah

41 goddessoftheclassroom  4/23/08 3:48:12 am reply quote 0

re: #38 Lucius Septimius

Good luck with that. In one of my classes the students are all supposed to do presentations in the last week. Two students stopped coming to class a while ago and two more didn't show up for their presentations or turn in the rough drafts of their papers. I find myself asking "what are they thinking?" As it stands, I have four people in that class who are staring an F in the face. And I know what I'll get as an excuse -- "I'm depressed" or some such.

Whenever I hear that, I want to say "yes, and if I were as much of a f***-up as you are, I'd be depressed too."

AARRGGHH! As I say to my students, how are YOU going to solve this problem? Choice have consequences.

(When it's a less serious situation, such as their not having a pencil, I say, "Stinks to be you.")

Of course my students are 15, but I still expect them to TALK TO ME about whatever help they need.

42 hayseed  4/23/08 3:48:20 am reply quote 0

re: #28 galloping granny

I'm so happy that spring has sprung. my soil temp is up to 65 degrees
now

43 rightside  4/23/08 3:50:00 am reply quote 0

re: #41 goddessoftheclassroom

10th graders?

44 hayseed  4/23/08 3:50:02 am reply quote 0

re: #37 freetoken

ya mean I can't trust fox news.lol

45 goddessoftheclassroom  4/23/08 3:52:07 am reply quote 0

re: #43 rightside

10th graders?

9th grade. I taught 10th last year, American lit, which I LOVED, but the junior high is a GREAT place to teach.

46 storagemanager  4/23/08 3:53:07 am reply quote 0
Denmark has evacuated staff from its embassies in Algeria and Afghanistan because of an increased threat level, officials said Wednesday.

Danish intelligence officials have warned of an "aggravated" terror threat against Denmark since the reprinting in February of a cartoon depicting the Prophet Muhammad. The warning specifically singled out North Africa, the Middle East, Pakistan and Afghanistan. (AP

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

47 rightside  4/23/08 3:53:14 am reply quote 0

re: #45 goddessoftheclassroom

oh! so close...off by a year!

Fortunately, my students are all in their 30's and 40's LOL

48 freetoken  4/23/08 3:53:55 am reply quote 0

re: #44 hayseed

Personally, I don't "trust" any of them... As a result I have to spend lots of time (when I'm interested in a given story) digging around looking for corroborative information...

Sleuthing 101 ought to be a prerequisite for cable TV enrollment...

49 goddessoftheclassroom  4/23/08 3:54:59 am reply quote 0

Happy St. George's Day, Lizards--and Shakespeare's birthday to boot!


I'm off to educate the masses--have a wonderful day.

50 BlueCanuck  4/23/08 3:55:32 am reply quote 0

re: #49 goddessoftheclassroom

Have a good day goddess.

51 storagemanager  4/23/08 3:55:57 am reply quote 0
SPOKANE -- Former White House Press Secretary Tony Snow has canceled a public speaking engagement at Eastern Washington University because of an undisclosed illness.

Snow, who was supposed to hold a public lecture at Eastern Tuesday afternoon as part of the Presidential Speaker Series, was taken to a local hospital around 9:30 a.m. for medical care.


[Link: www.kxly.com...]

52 opnion  4/23/08 3:56:14 am reply quote 1

re: #46 storagemanager

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Not Afghanistan!. We liberated them from the Taliban. They are grateful practitioners of the Religion of Peace. Can't be.

53 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 3:57:21 am reply quote 0

re: #41 goddessoftheclassroom

I have one student whose father keeps calling and emailing to check up on him. Of course this kid is probably the worst offender in the "I can't get my butt out of bed and into a seat" department. Part of me wonders whether or not the fact this kid cannot get it together derives from the fact that his parents as still, at 21, covering for him. I mean, I can't imagine my dad calling one of professors in college to ask about how I was doing.

The other thing is they all have cars, and I know they're not paying the insurance. Isn't there still that "B"average thing on auto insurance for college students? If nothing else, the fear of losing that kept me engaged with classwork.

54 hayseed  4/23/08 3:57:30 am reply quote 0

re: #48 freetoken

I should have used a sarc tag on my #3....sorry

55 MandyManners  4/23/08 3:59:51 am reply quote 0

re: #53 Lucius Septimius

Helicopter parents!

56 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 4:01:17 am reply quote 0

The next question is: will he sue for his injuries?


Pinellas County woman finds 8 foot alligator in her kitchen

The Associated Press

OLDSMAR, Fla. - This alligator made himself at home in Pinellas County.

Authorities say 69-year-old Sandra Frosti of Oldsmar found the 8-foot long alligator in her kitchen late Monday night.

She says the gator must have pushed through the back porch screen door and went inside through an open sliding glass door. It then walked through the living room, down a hall and into the kitchen.

A trapper with Animal Capture of Florida removed the alligator, which had been cut when a plate was knocked to the ground. But no one inside the house was injured.

57 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 4:01:39 am reply quote 0

re: #55 MandyManners

Helicopter parents!

Lord grant me patience; that or a Stinger missile.

58 opnion  4/23/08 4:01:57 am reply quote 0

re: #54 hayseed

I should have used a sarc tag on my #3....sorry

It's "Climate Change" that is the issue.
If July is warmer than last February and if this January is cooler than June, that will prove the theory.
Climate change will be proven beyond a doubt & we will be doomed if Gore does not get another award.

59 zinowl  4/23/08 4:02:15 am reply quote 0

Re: Pennsylvania Primary Summary
(all delegate counts are approximations only at this point)
160 Delegates up for grabs

085 for Clinton (55% of votes)
075 for Obama (45% of votes)

010 Net Gain for Clinton

Obama was about 160 delegates ahead of Clinton before PA.
Obama now about 150 delegates ahead of Clinton after PA.

Clinton Win = much ado about nothing
Obama Loss = so what, hardly any ground lost - he still wins

60 Ojoe  4/23/08 4:03:06 am reply quote 0

re: #58 opnion

"Climate Change", as if it ever was static.

LOL

61 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 4:04:38 am reply quote 0

re: #60 Ojoe

"Climate Change", as if it ever was static.

LOL

If Obamamama becomes president, he will make sure that the climate always remains the same.

That's the power of "Change."

62 hayseed  4/23/08 4:04:45 am reply quote 0

re: #56 Lucius Septimius

I ate some alligator , it was pretty good

63 Ojoe  4/23/08 4:05:37 am reply quote 4

re: #59 zinowl

This will lead to chair throwing at the convention, because the more level headed Democrats know that Obama, ahead that he may be in convention delegates, cannot win the general election, and there will be a superdelegate push to nominate Hillary, and, ...

pass the popcorn.

64 bolivar  4/23/08 4:07:29 am reply quote 0

re: #15 Teacake!

My energy bills were about $40 each month up until 3 or 4 months ago and are over $100! Not that much different useage either.

Teacake, where do you live? Certainly not New England. Our gas bill for last month was 320 and electric 170. We have a 50 year old house but no extra power or heat hungry appliances. You are still getting a bargain.

65 storagemanager  4/23/08 4:07:52 am reply quote 2

re: #61 Lucius Septimius

If Obama becomes President..the air will be filled with the smell of death.

66 MandyManners  4/23/08 4:08:08 am reply quote 0

re: #57 Lucius Septimius

Lord grant me patience; that or a Stinger missile.

Is this a new thing?

67 freetoken  4/23/08 4:08:17 am reply quote 0

re: #60 Ojoe

Which is why the term is prefixed with "anthropogenic", which itself is not really adequate to describe the phenomena; however, if someone should use the term "anthropogenically perturbed climate change" they would run out of breath from all the syllables!

68 Ojoe  4/23/08 4:09:51 am reply quote 0

re: #67 freetoken

And all the panic about the climate is driven by a lack of faith.

Doubt driven panic, what is a latin based one word description for that?

69 storagemanager  4/23/08 4:09:54 am reply quote 0

I need coffee.

70 Ojoe  4/23/08 4:11:06 am reply quote 0

re: #69 storagemanager

Doesn't your store have an air pot of the stuff, and a stack of styrofoam cups?

71 LeftJustAintRight  4/23/08 4:11:09 am reply quote 0

re: #68 Ojoe


Doubt driven panic, what is a latin based one word description for that?


Change!

72 galloping granny  4/23/08 4:12:05 am reply quote 0

re: #36 rightside

What!? no arugula? Have you seen what the price of arugula is at whole foods lately?

Not to worry rightside, I am putting in quite a large arugula patch, having got an exceedingly large pack of seed for a premium strain of wild arugula from Italy for

73 galloping granny  4/23/08 4:12:35 am reply quote 0

re: #69 storagemanager

I need coffee.

You know, I made a pot and clean forgot all about it. Thanks for reminding me. Want some?

74 zinowl  4/23/08 4:14:13 am reply quote 0

RE: # 069 Ojoe

Denver Tour Bus Highlights, November 2008

..................... and, folks, here on our right is our brand new sight - the "Clinton Colorado Crater" that used to be the Pepsi Center.......

75 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 4:15:24 am reply quote 0

re: #66 MandyManners

Is this a new thing?

It has gotten demonstrably worse since 2000. The only times I ever saw parents before then was a graduation. Since then they are on campus more and more and calling and leaving messages. This week I've talked with two parents who wanted to make appointments to schedule their kid's classes. I wanted to ask "do you still wipe their butts too?" but I'm afraid that they'll say "but of course!"

Infantalize your children and don't be surprised when they still act like toddlers at 21.

76 hayseed  4/23/08 4:16:34 am reply quote 0

a school bus just went by........

the wheels on the bus go round and round

77 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 4:17:52 am reply quote 0

re: #76 hayseed

a school bus just went by........

the wheels on the bus go round and round

Nice to see that folks over at the National Institutes of Health, Department of Health & Human Services are doing something useful for a change.

78 galloping granny  4/23/08 4:19:03 am reply quote 0

re: #64 bolivar

Teacake, where do you live? Certainly not New England. Our gas bill for last month was 320 and electric 170. We have a 50 year old house but no extra power or heat hungry appliances. You are still getting a bargain.

I don't know how old your appliances are, but we replaced the rather old electric stove and small fridge that came with the house (age 78) with new, energy efficient models and saved quite literally $80 a month. (We live in VT.) Our electric has been running ~$125 for the winter for stove, washer, dryer, fridge, 3 computers + peripherals, 4 TVs plus assorted gaming systems and two electric space heaters we use in the schoolroom and winterized porch. Just got 150 gallons of oil. last delivery was mid February for the same amount. (Half the usage of last year because I spent lots of time and $100 putting plastic on the windows, weatherstripping, etc.)

79 MandyManners  4/23/08 4:19:05 am reply quote 0

re: #75 Lucius Septimius

It has gotten demonstrably worse since 2000. The only times I ever saw parents before then was a graduation. Since then they are on campus more and more and calling and leaving messages. This week I've talked with two parents who wanted to make appointments to schedule their kid's classes. I wanted to ask "do you still wipe their butts too?" but I'm afraid that they'll say "but of course!"

Infantalize your children and don't be surprised when they still act like toddlers at 21.

What do you say? Isn't there a law about privacy you can invoke?

Since this is new, I wonder what causes it.

80 galloping granny  4/23/08 4:20:32 am reply quote 0

re: #75 Lucius Septimius

It has gotten demonstrably worse since 2000. The only times I ever saw parents before then was a graduation. Since then they are on campus more and more and calling and leaving messages. This week I've talked with two parents who wanted to make appointments to schedule their kid's classes. I wanted to ask "do you still wipe their butts too?" but I'm afraid that they'll say "but of course!"

Infantalize your children and don't be surprised when they still act like toddlers at 21.

You have parents of college students trying to schedule their student's classes?

Words fail me. . . . .

81 Armigerous  4/23/08 4:20:49 am reply quote 2

re: #68 Ojoe

I think the Latin based word you are searching for is 'hysteria'

82 galloping granny  4/23/08 4:21:42 am reply quote 0

re: #79 MandyManners

What do you say? Isn't there a law about privacy you can invoke?

Since this is new, I wonder what causes it.

Yes there absolutely is. Parent's of "children" over 18 are not entitled to access to academic records unless the student gives written permission. Even if Daddy and Mommy pay all the tuition.

83 eaglewingz08  4/23/08 4:22:39 am reply quote 0

So now we have a poster claiming that guns and God and anti illegal immigration folks are acting bizzarly but don't tell them it's cause those bible thumpin folks are unemployed, cause they are too fragile or too stupid to handle the truth and might instead go postal on your super smart ass.

84 storagemanager  4/23/08 4:22:49 am reply quote 0
Bad Company - Bad Company

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

85 MandyManners  4/23/08 4:25:07 am reply quote 0

re: #82 galloping granny

Yes there absolutely is. Parent's of "children" over 18 are not entitled to access to academic records unless the student gives written permission. Even if Daddy and Mommy pay all the tuition.

I thought so. I wonder how many parents squawk over this.

86 MandyManners  4/23/08 4:26:39 am reply quote 0

re: #84 storagemanager

[Link:

87 storagemanager  4/23/08 4:26:57 am reply quote 0
Tehran, 23 April (AKI) – Former Tehran police chief, Reza Zarei, who was arrested in a brothel in March, has attempted suicide in prison.

Zarei was reportedly transferred to hospital for urgent treatment after the suicide attempt.

News of the suicide has not been confirmed officially but was published on the Iranian site, Peyknet.

Zarei was found with six naked women when he was arrested in a Tehran brothel last month.

The former police chief was responsible for the moralisation campaign spearheaded by president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

The so-called "public security plan" is aimed at enforcing Islamic dress code and fight 'indecent' behavior by young people in the Iranian capital.

The moralisation campaign led by Zarei resulted in the arrest of hundreds of young men and women accused of failing to respect the Islamic code

. [Link: www.adnkronos.com...]

88 storagemanager  4/23/08 4:27:24 am reply quote 0

re: #86 MandyManners

Good tune.

song of my youth.

89 hayseed  4/23/08 4:27:40 am reply quote 0

re: #84 storagemanager

storage rocks.....I think that's the first tune you linked to that I saw

90 galloping granny  4/23/08 4:28:41 am reply quote 0

re: #85 MandyManners

I thought so. I wonder how many parents squawk over this.

They shouldn't squawk. The legal age of majority in the United States of America is 18 - unless you want a beer. Or would like to be counted as an independent student because you support your self. Or unless you don't make squat flipping burgers at McD's and would be eligible for an earned income credit if only you were 25.

91 opnion  4/23/08 4:28:50 am reply quote 0

re: #60 Ojoe

"Climate Change", as if it ever was static.

LOL

Well if temperatures do not stay level during the year, then we are destroying our planet.
However, if we buy carbon credits from Al Gore's company maybe we can beat it.

92 Jim in Virginia  4/23/08 4:28:53 am reply quote 0

re: #82 galloping granny

Yes there absolutely is. Parent's of "children" over 18 are not entitled to access to academic records unless the student gives written permission. Even if Daddy and Mommy pay all the tuition.


It drove my dad crazy when I had the university stop sendng my grades home. Yep, I was a little s--t at 19.

93 opnion  4/23/08 4:29:34 am reply quote 0

re: #61 Lucius Septimius

If Obamamama becomes president, he will make sure that the climate always remains the same.

That's the power of "Change."

One can "HOPE"

94 BabbaZee  4/23/08 4:29:52 am reply quote 0

Storage is gonna put me out of business!
lol

95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  4/23/08 4:30:18 am reply quote 0

I am at a Holiday Inn Express. Not feelin' that smart. Meh.

96 storagemanager  4/23/08 4:30:19 am reply quote 0

re: #89 hayseed

storage rocks.....I think that's the first tune you linked to that I saw


I linked this one too. [Link: www.youtube.com...]

97 BabbaZee  4/23/08 4:30:40 am reply quote 0

re: #93 opnion

One can "HOPE"

Obammunism: The Hopium of the Asses

98 BabbaZee  4/23/08 4:31:07 am reply quote 0

re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am at a Holiday Inn Express. Not feelin' that smart. Meh.

But are you a skinny fucko carnivore yet?

99 MandyManners  4/23/08 4:31:10 am reply quote 0

re: #88 storagemanager

song of my youth.

I missed their concert somewhere along the Gulf Coast years ago when Hurricane Bob showed up.

100 galloping granny  4/23/08 4:31:22 am reply quote 0

re: #92 Jim in Virginia

It drove my dad crazy when I had the university stop sendng my grades home. Yep, I was a little s--t at 19.

My kids and I have a deal. Once they turn 18, they are adults. I will move heaven and earth to help them, but I don't get a copy of their grades and they don't get my signature on student loans.

101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  4/23/08 4:31:25 am reply quote 0

re: #94 BabbaZee

Storage is gonna put me out of business!
lol

Just got here. Is he starting a "raging spleen" franchise?

102 BabbaZee  4/23/08 4:32:03 am reply quote 0

re: #101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No LOL
he is spinning tunes

103 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  4/23/08 4:32:35 am reply quote 0

re: #98 BabbaZee

Just as rotund as ever.

104 BabbaZee  4/23/08 4:32:58 am reply quote 0

re: #103 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

{Your Circumfernce!}

105 opnion  4/23/08 4:33:00 am reply quote 0

re: #97 BabbaZee

Obammunism: The Hopium of the Asses

Word

106 MandyManners  4/23/08 4:33:03 am reply quote 0

re: #90 galloping granny

They shouldn't squawk. The legal age of majority in the United States of America is 18 - unless you want a beer. Or would like to be counted as an independent student because you support your self. Or unless you don't make squat flipping burgers at McD's and would be eligible for an earned income credit if only you were 25.

Oh, I know they shouldn't squawk. I'm just trying to figure out why they hover since Lucius says it's been an issue only since 2000. Are these the last of the Boomers' kids and they cannot give up control?

107 storagemanager  4/23/08 4:33:07 am reply quote 0
True to the liberal penchant for blaming every ill in the world on the USA, ABC News has produced a “report” claiming that the increasing number of guns and drug cartel violence in Mexico is all the fault of... the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. That’s right, it isn’t the drug dealers and killers in Mexico that are at fault, it’s James Madison and the Founding Father’s fault! Now, before you imagine that I am employing hyperbole in my introduction, just look at the title of their piece: “U.S. Guns Arming Mexican Drug Gangs; Second Amendment to Blame?”

[Link: www.stoptheaclu.com...]

108 BabbaZee  4/23/08 4:33:21 am reply quote 0

Circumfer e nce

109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  4/23/08 4:33:42 am reply quote 0

re: #102 BabbaZee

No LOL
he is spinning tunes

You are the morning DJ at WLGF!

Harry Chapin was a good guy.

110 galloping granny  4/23/08 4:33:48 am reply quote 0

re: #93 opnion

One can "HOPE"

And then we might make "PROGRESS!"

111 Jim in Virginia  4/23/08 4:33:53 am reply quote 0

re: #75 Lucius Septimius

It has gotten demonstrably worse since 2000. The only times I ever saw parents before then was a graduation. Since then they are on campus more and more and calling and leaving messages. This week I've talked with two parents who wanted to make appointments to schedule their kid's classes. I wanted to ask "do you still wipe their butts too?" but I'm afraid that they'll say "but of course!"

Infantalize your children and don't be surprised when they still act like toddlers at 21.

Why do people do this? The depression babies were all skinflints. Most of today's parents of college age children are fifty or so. They came of age during the late 70's.
Should we blame Carter or disco?

112 BabbaZee  4/23/08 4:34:08 am reply quote 0
113 Lucius Septimius  4/23/08 4:34:57 am reply quote 0

re: #90 galloping granny

FIRPA stipulates that college student records remain private. That said, if the student signs a release, then the parents can get all the information they want. And from what I'm seeing, more and more parents are demanding that their kids sign the release. Regulations (both FIRPA and ADA) were also relaxed after the VaTech shooting, mainly because it was difficult for instructors and advisors to get information about their own students.

I don't have any problem with the people footing the bill having a chance to see things like grades, but it has really gone too far. I'm seeing more and more kids (they don't act like adults even if they are legally adults) who are totally unwilling or incapable of taking responsibility for their actions. "W" is becoming a common grade, and no shortage of students will just fail and then petition to get a "W" retroactively.

114 opnion  4/23/08 4:35:21 am reply quote 0

re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am at a Holiday Inn Express. Not feelin' that smart. Meh.

Those Cinnamon rolls suck. Nuke em in the microwave.

115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  4/23/08 4:35:31 am reply quote 0

re: #108 BabbaZee

If I know what you meant, you don't have to correct spelling. Just when it throws the syntax or something off. Think I know how to spell cer cer cer cer...roundness?

116 storagemanager  4/23/08 4:36:01 am reply quote 1

Wow..just wow

......"You have to marvel at the naivety of former American president Jimmy Carter. The man who gave us the Iranian revolution is now in Gaza trying to resolve the Palestinian crisis." <