a day late and a dollar short

I once shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into them I will never know.

------Groucho Marx

One of the best vaudevillian comedians in my opinion. Goooood Morning LGF!

from the last thread it's ice age we have to worry about

ITs a bit after 5 am here in new orleans and as usual, can't sleep through the night. Either Charles is up early or late.

Good morning dead-threaders, though I suppose since this is an open thread it isn't dead.

59 degrees already with a high near 80 today in the greater metropolitan Doraville area. Cat is staring at me ominously.

re: #3 hayseed

From the last thread, could you Express Mail some of that out this way before we melt in the heat?

re: #5 Lucius Septimius

It's a little under 13° C here in T.O. just had a sudden downpour interspersed with thunder and lightning. I love this weather.

/no really, I do. :)

What I don't understand is why with all the scary developments about obama, why hill isn't having a bigger lead. I'm not voting for either for sure, but if I were her, I would be really mad that this guy just comes out of nowhere after all the years of her paying her dues.

re: #5 Lucius Septimius

planted tomatoes yesterday,gonna do peppers today. I love hot weather,my joints move a little better.lol

re: #3 hayseed

Yeah, I read a longer article on that along with pictures of the clear sun. It's going to be an interesting few decades.

re: #3 hayseed

from the last thread it's ice age we have to worry about

A long, long time ago I had a course in college on Ice Ages, and that was the prediction then. The projections we were shown even made room for "man-made global warming" but showed that as a short upward blip in a long-term descent into the cold.

re: #9 hayseed

I am enjoying the warmer weather, though I had to give up the joints after I reached a certain age.

Don't like cold weather! THunder and lightning, yes

Lucius Septimius

We did Act III of R&J yesterday (the scene where Tybalt kills Mercutio and Romeo kills Tybalt). As soon as the kids saw the foam swords, almost al the hands were in the air volunteering to act!

My energy bills were about $40 each month up until 3 or 4 months ago and are over $100! Not that much different useage either.

re: #7 BlueCanuck

It's a little under 13° C here in T.O. just had a sudden downpour interspersed with thunder and lightning. I love this weather.

/no really, I do. :)

When you posted that temp I did a double take; then I looked at the map. It's really warmed up there quickly. It wasn't that long ago that ya'll had snow on the ground.

re: #14 goddessoftheclassroom

Lucius Septimius

We did Act III of R&J yesterday (the scene where Tybalt kills Mercutio and Romeo kills Tybalt). As soon as the kids saw the foam swords, almost al the hands were in the air volunteering to act!

That's because there are no guns to cling to...

re: #16 Lucius Septimius

Yes it did. We have been having unseasonably warm temperatures here for the past week or so. But to balance it out, Calgary got a lot snow last week.

re: #14 goddessoftheclassroom

Hope nobody got hurt. That's actually a pretty intense scene.

Most of my classes have student presentations this week; my Vikings class is reading the saga of Harald Hardrada of Norway who ends up being killed at Stamford bridge in 1066, the first of two invasions of England that year. Today Harald is in the Mediterranean fighting the Saracens.

Only five more days of class. Yippee.

re: #17 rightside

That's because there are no guns to cling to...

They may be angry, but they're not bitter.

re: #17 rightside

That's because there are no guns to cling to...

OMG--ROTFL!

What was even funnier to me is that most of the kids read pretty well but without any characterization, Suddenly, the girl playing Lady Montague gets up there and WAS the character. My head swiveled around and I got goosebumps, I said, "Finally someone is really ACTING." Then all the guys (most of whom were bodies on the floor by this time) sat up and started protesting about how dramatic they were.

I love my job.

Just before I woke up I had a dream I was talking to the Queen on the phone, too bad I can't recall what the conversation was. LOL

re: #21 goddessoftheclassroom

Best english class I had was in college. We were broken into groups to act out scenes from Macbeth. I was grouped with four Chinese students on student visas. We did the scene were Macbeth and Banquo meet the three witches. Took a week, but I almost got them to speak King James english for the class.

re: #3 hayseed

Ice ages are not caused by lack of sunspots.

This site might be a parody, but not sure. obama the messiah [Link: obamamessiah.blogspot.com...]

re: #23 BlueCanuck

Best english class I had was in college. We were broken into groups to act out scenes from Macbeth. I was grouped with four Chinese students on student visas. We did the scene were Macbeth and Banquo meet the three witches. Took a week, but I almost got them to speak King James english for the class.

What a great story! I'm giggling at the thought of the lines recited with a Chinese accent!

I would LOVE to play Lady Macbeth some day, or at least one of the witches, I do a terrific (IMHO) witch voice.

/as my students will solemnly acknowledge
/and yes, that is a "w."

Sheesh! I just get online, and this 'minor typhoon' starts a black, blowy downpour...

I can't risk another hit while I'm connected to modem... last time FRIED two hard-disks!

BBIAW....

Bangkok out

re: #9 hayseed

planted tomatoes yesterday,gonna do peppers today. I love hot weather,my joints move a little better.lol

I am SO jealous! Though mine are getting ready, living outside days. And today I am planting snow peas and chard and lettuces and carrots and radishes and spinach and whatever other early crops I have hidden up. First daffodil is blooming this morning.

re: #26 goddessoftheclassroom

I do a terrific (IMHO) witch voice.

Hopefully you can't pull off those spells I was reading about on an earlier thread.

My favorite English class was AP English in my Senior Year of high school back in...

...ok, it was a while ago. Let's just stop there.

But the highlight was the school trip to the Ashland Shakespeare Festival. Not only caught a few shows but got to meet the actors before them and learn a few things from them.

re: #26 goddessoftheclassroom

The best part was explaining the language and meanings to them. Poor people, I think they were having a hard enough time with modern english.

re: #29 Lucius Septimius

Hopefully you can't pull off those spells I was reading about on an earlier thread.

Well, my glare has been known to make a student stand, walk to the trash can, and throw away his or her gum without my saying a word. It also makes them stop talking.

Now if I can only get it to make them study and complete all their work well...

re: #24 freetoken

it was the lack of sun spots....well anyway I saw it on the innernut so it must be true.lol

penis snatching and a Hill-Billy win....I miss everything!

A little tidbit from yesterday's BotW (since the bitter guns thing has come up).

In the wake of Barack Obama's "bitter" brouhaha, some have defended him by arguing that what he said was true, or at least arguably so. Reader Rob Coker has a terrific analogy that helps explain why the comments were objectionable anyway:

It reminded me of a recent counseling class when different factors that make one irritable were being discussed. Women's hormonal cycles were brought up with the warning that even though that could be the source of a woman's being grumpy/offended, it was not best to say so to one's wife when she was annoyed at you. Why? The reason is that it invalidates her having genuine reason to be offended--there's something wrong with her for being hurt--and denies your responsibility in that. It's patronizing.

It is possible that economic hardship has indeed resulted in certain people clinging to God and guns and being resentful of immigrants. However, the underlying assertion is the same as above, namely that there is something wrong with the rural Pennsylvanians thinking the way they do, that it is obviously an indefensible position, and so there must be some external reason causing them to act so bizarrely.

I find it ironic that such "brilliant" people feel free to use psychological explanations on others and think they are being so smart, while they violate a basic principle of psychology and counseling by invalidating those they are explaining.

re: #28 galloping granny

What!? no arugula? Have you seen what the price of arugula is at whole foods lately?

re: #33 hayseed

There are always a variety of internet stories... that is the problem with the internet - low signal to noise ratio.

If you are interested in the topic of the timing of ice ages, here is a description of Milankovitch cycles, that might prove useful to you in delving into the subject.

re: #32 goddessoftheclassroom

Well, my glare has been known to make a student stand, walk to the trash can, and throw away his or her gum without my saying a word. It also makes them stop talking.

Now if I can only get it to make them study and complete all their work well...

Good luck with that. In one of my classes the students are all supposed to do presentations in the last week. Two students stopped coming to class a while ago and two more didn't show up for their presentations or turn in the rough drafts of their papers. I find myself asking "what are they thinking?" As it stands, I have four people in that class who are staring an F in the face. And I know what I'll get as an excuse -- "I'm depressed" or some such.

Whenever I hear that, I want to say "yes, and if I were as much of a f***-up as you are, I'd be depressed too."

re: #38 Lucius Septimius

Whenever I hear that, I want to say "yes, and if I were as much of a f***-up as you are, I'd be depressed too."

If you actually say that to a student, I'll chip in for your legal defense to help you keep your job. -:-)

re: #25 Teacake!

This site might be a parody, but not sure. obama the messiah [Link: obamamessiah.blogspot.com...]

Good morning Lizards.
While those with clear eyesight see Barry as a hustler involved in a con , the true believer sees Messiah

re: #38 Lucius Septimius

Good luck with that. In one of my classes the students are all supposed to do presentations in the last week. Two students stopped coming to class a while ago and two more didn't show up for their presentations or turn in the rough drafts of their papers. I find myself asking "what are they thinking?" As it stands, I have four people in that class who are staring an F in the face. And I know what I'll get as an excuse -- "I'm depressed" or some such.

Whenever I hear that, I want to say "yes, and if I were as much of a f***-up as you are, I'd be depressed too."

AARRGGHH! As I say to my students, how are YOU going to solve this problem? Choice have consequences.

(When it's a less serious situation, such as their not having a pencil, I say, "Stinks to be you.")

Of course my students are 15, but I still expect them to TALK TO ME about whatever help they need.

re: #28 galloping granny

I'm so happy that spring has sprung. my soil temp is up to 65 degrees
now

re: #41 goddessoftheclassroom

10th graders?

re: #37 freetoken

ya mean I can't trust fox news.lol

re: #43 rightside

10th graders?

9th grade. I taught 10th last year, American lit, which I LOVED, but the junior high is a GREAT place to teach.

Denmark has evacuated staff from its embassies in Algeria and Afghanistan because of an increased threat level, officials said Wednesday.

Danish intelligence officials have warned of an "aggravated" terror threat against Denmark since the reprinting in February of a cartoon depicting the Prophet Muhammad. The warning specifically singled out North Africa, the Middle East, Pakistan and Afghanistan. (AP

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

re: #45 goddessoftheclassroom

oh! so close...off by a year!

Fortunately, my students are all in their 30's and 40's LOL

re: #44 hayseed

Personally, I don't "trust" any of them... As a result I have to spend lots of time (when I'm interested in a given story) digging around looking for corroborative information...

Sleuthing 101 ought to be a prerequisite for cable TV enrollment...

Happy St. George's Day, Lizards--and Shakespeare's birthday to boot!

I'm off to educate the masses--have a wonderful day.

re: #49 goddessoftheclassroom

Have a good day goddess.

SPOKANE -- Former White House Press Secretary Tony Snow has canceled a public speaking engagement at Eastern Washington University because of an undisclosed illness.

Snow, who was supposed to hold a public lecture at Eastern Tuesday afternoon as part of the Presidential Speaker Series, was taken to a local hospital around 9:30 a.m. for medical care.

[Link: www.kxly.com...]

re: #46 storagemanager

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Not Afghanistan!. We liberated them from the Taliban. They are grateful practitioners of the Religion of Peace. Can't be.

re: #41 goddessoftheclassroom

I have one student whose father keeps calling and emailing to check up on him. Of course this kid is probably the worst offender in the "I can't get my butt out of bed and into a seat" department. Part of me wonders whether or not the fact this kid cannot get it together derives from the fact that his parents as still, at 21, covering for him. I mean, I can't imagine my dad calling one of professors in college to ask about how I was doing.

The other thing is they all have cars, and I know they're not paying the insurance. Isn't there still that "B"average thing on auto insurance for college students? If nothing else, the fear of losing that kept me engaged with classwork.

re: #48 freetoken

I should have used a sarc tag on my #3....sorry

re: #53 Lucius Septimius

Helicopter parents!

The next question is: will he sue for his injuries?

Pinellas County woman finds 8 foot alligator in her kitchen

The Associated Press

OLDSMAR, Fla. - This alligator made himself at home in Pinellas County.

Authorities say 69-year-old Sandra Frosti of Oldsmar found the 8-foot long alligator in her kitchen late Monday night.

She says the gator must have pushed through the back porch screen door and went inside through an open sliding glass door. It then walked through the living room, down a hall and into the kitchen.

A trapper with Animal Capture of Florida removed the alligator, which had been cut when a plate was knocked to the ground. But no one inside the house was injured.

re: #55 MandyManners

Helicopter parents!

Lord grant me patience; that or a Stinger missile.

re: #54 hayseed

I should have used a sarc tag on my #3....sorry

It's "Climate Change" that is the issue.
If July is warmer than last February and if this January is cooler than June, that will prove the theory.
Climate change will be proven beyond a doubt & we will be doomed if Gore does not get another award.

Re: Pennsylvania Primary Summary
(all delegate counts are approximations only at this point)
160 Delegates up for grabs

085 for Clinton (55% of votes)
075 for Obama (45% of votes)

010 Net Gain for Clinton

Obama was about 160 delegates ahead of Clinton before PA.
Obama now about 150 delegates ahead of Clinton after PA.

Clinton Win = much ado about nothing
Obama Loss = so what, hardly any ground lost - he still wins

re: #58 opnion

"Climate Change", as if it ever was static.

LOL

re: #60 Ojoe

"Climate Change", as if it ever was static.

LOL

If Obamamama becomes president, he will make sure that the climate always remains the same.

That's the power of "Change."

re: #56 Lucius Septimius

I ate some alligator , it was pretty good

re: #59 zinowl

This will lead to chair throwing at the convention, because the more level headed Democrats know that Obama, ahead that he may be in convention delegates, cannot win the general election, and there will be a superdelegate push to nominate Hillary, and, ...

pass the popcorn.

re: #15 Teacake!

My energy bills were about $40 each month up until 3 or 4 months ago and are over $100! Not that much different useage either.

Teacake, where do you live? Certainly not New England. Our gas bill for last month was 320 and electric 170. We have a 50 year old house but no extra power or heat hungry appliances. You are still getting a bargain.

re: #61 Lucius Septimius

If Obama becomes President..the air will be filled with the smell of death.

re: #57 Lucius Septimius

Lord grant me patience; that or a Stinger missile.

Is this a new thing?

re: #60 Ojoe

Which is why the term is prefixed with "anthropogenic", which itself is not really adequate to describe the phenomena; however, if someone should use the term "anthropogenically perturbed climate change" they would run out of breath from all the syllables!

re: #67 freetoken

And all the panic about the climate is driven by a lack of faith.

Doubt driven panic, what is a latin based one word description for that?

I need coffee.

re: #69 storagemanager

Doesn't your store have an air pot of the stuff, and a stack of styrofoam cups?

re: #68 Ojoe

Doubt driven panic, what is a latin based one word description for that?

Change!

re: #36 rightside

What!? no arugula? Have you seen what the price of arugula is at whole foods lately?

Not to worry rightside, I am putting in quite a large arugula patch, having got an exceedingly large pack of seed for a premium strain of wild arugula from Italy for

re: #69 storagemanager

I need coffee.

You know, I made a pot and clean forgot all about it. Thanks for reminding me. Want some?

RE: # 069 Ojoe

Denver Tour Bus Highlights, November 2008

..................... and, folks, here on our right is our brand new sight - the "Clinton Colorado Crater" that used to be the Pepsi Center.......

re: #66 MandyManners

Is this a new thing?

It has gotten demonstrably worse since 2000. The only times I ever saw parents before then was a graduation. Since then they are on campus more and more and calling and leaving messages. This week I've talked with two parents who wanted to make appointments to schedule their kid's classes. I wanted to ask "do you still wipe their butts too?" but I'm afraid that they'll say "but of course!"

Infantalize your children and don't be surprised when they still act like toddlers at 21.

a school bus just went by........

the wheels on the bus go round and round

re: #76 hayseed

a school bus just went by........

the wheels on the bus go round and round

Nice to see that folks over at the National Institutes of Health, Department of Health & Human Services are doing something useful for a change.

re: #64 bolivar

Teacake, where do you live? Certainly not New England. Our gas bill for last month was 320 and electric 170. We have a 50 year old house but no extra power or heat hungry appliances. You are still getting a bargain.

I don't know how old your appliances are, but we replaced the rather old electric stove and small fridge that came with the house (age 78) with new, energy efficient models and saved quite literally $80 a month. (We live in VT.) Our electric has been running ~$125 for the winter for stove, washer, dryer, fridge, 3 computers + peripherals, 4 TVs plus assorted gaming systems and two electric space heaters we use in the schoolroom and winterized porch. Just got 150 gallons of oil. last delivery was mid February for the same amount. (Half the usage of last year because I spent lots of time and $100 putting plastic on the windows, weatherstripping, etc.)

re: #75 Lucius Septimius

It has gotten demonstrably worse since 2000. The only times I ever saw parents before then was a graduation. Since then they are on campus more and more and calling and leaving messages. This week I've talked with two parents who wanted to make appointments to schedule their kid's classes. I wanted to ask "do you still wipe their butts too?" but I'm afraid that they'll say "but of course!"

Infantalize your children and don't be surprised when they still act like toddlers at 21.

What do you say? Isn't there a law about privacy you can invoke?

Since this is new, I wonder what causes it.

re: #75 Lucius Septimius

It has gotten demonstrably worse since 2000. The only times I ever saw parents before then was a graduation. Since then they are on campus more and more and calling and leaving messages. This week I've talked with two parents who wanted to make appointments to schedule their kid's classes. I wanted to ask "do you still wipe their butts too?" but I'm afraid that they'll say "but of course!"

Infantalize your children and don't be surprised when they still act like toddlers at 21.

You have parents of college students trying to schedule their student's classes?

Words fail me. . . . .

re: #68 Ojoe

I think the Latin based word you are searching for is 'hysteria'

re: #79 MandyManners

What do you say? Isn't there a law about privacy you can invoke?

Since this is new, I wonder what causes it.

Yes there absolutely is. Parent's of "children" over 18 are not entitled to access to academic records unless the student gives written permission. Even if Daddy and Mommy pay all the tuition.

So now we have a poster claiming that guns and God and anti illegal immigration folks are acting bizzarly but don't tell them it's cause those bible thumpin folks are unemployed, cause they are too fragile or too stupid to handle the truth and might instead go postal on your super smart ass.

Bad Company - Bad Company

re: #82 galloping granny

Yes there absolutely is. Parent's of "children" over 18 are not entitled to access to academic records unless the student gives written permission. Even if Daddy and Mommy pay all the tuition.

I thought so. I wonder how many parents squawk over this.

re: #84 storagemanager

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Good tune.

Tehran, 23 April (AKI) – Former Tehran police chief, Reza Zarei, who was arrested in a brothel in March, has attempted suicide in prison.

Zarei was reportedly transferred to hospital for urgent treatment after the suicide attempt.

News of the suicide has not been confirmed officially but was published on the Iranian site, Peyknet.

Zarei was found with six naked women when he was arrested in a Tehran brothel last month.

The former police chief was responsible for the moralisation campaign spearheaded by president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

The so-called "public security plan" is aimed at enforcing Islamic dress code and fight 'indecent' behavior by young people in the Iranian capital.

The moralisation campaign led by Zarei resulted in the arrest of hundreds of young men and women accused of failing to respect the Islamic code

. [Link: www.adnkronos.com...]

re: #86 MandyManners

Good tune.

song of my youth.

re: #84 storagemanager

storage rocks.....I think that's the first tune you linked to that I saw

re: #85 MandyManners

I thought so. I wonder how many parents squawk over this.

They shouldn't squawk. The legal age of majority in the United States of America is 18 - unless you want a beer. Or would like to be counted as an independent student because you support your self. Or unless you don't make squat flipping burgers at McD's and would be eligible for an earned income credit if only you were 25.

re: #60 Ojoe

"Climate Change", as if it ever was static.

LOL

Well if temperatures do not stay level during the year, then we are destroying our planet.
However, if we buy carbon credits from Al Gore's company maybe we can beat it.

re: #82 galloping granny

Yes there absolutely is. Parent's of "children" over 18 are not entitled to access to academic records unless the student gives written permission. Even if Daddy and Mommy pay all the tuition.

It drove my dad crazy when I had the university stop sendng my grades home. Yep, I was a little s--t at 19.

re: #61 Lucius Septimius

If Obamamama becomes president, he will make sure that the climate always remains the same.

That's the power of "Change."

One can "HOPE"

Storage is gonna put me out of business!
lol

I am at a Holiday Inn Express. Not feelin' that smart. Meh.

re: #89 hayseed

storage rocks.....I think that's the first tune you linked to that I saw

I linked this one too.

re: #93 opnion

One can "HOPE"

Obammunism: The Hopium of the Asses

re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am at a Holiday Inn Express. Not feelin' that smart. Meh.

But are you a skinny fucko carnivore yet?

re: #88 storagemanager

song of my youth.

I missed their concert somewhere along the Gulf Coast years ago when Hurricane Bob showed up.

re: #92 Jim in Virginia

It drove my dad crazy when I had the university stop sendng my grades home. Yep, I was a little s--t at 19.

My kids and I have a deal. Once they turn 18, they are adults. I will move heaven and earth to help them, but I don't get a copy of their grades and they don't get my signature on student loans.

re: #94 BabbaZee

Storage is gonna put me out of business!
lol

Just got here. Is he starting a "raging spleen" franchise?

re: #101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No LOL
he is spinning tunes

re: #98 BabbaZee

Just as rotund as ever.

re: #103 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

{Your Circumfernce!}

re: #97 BabbaZee

Obammunism: The Hopium of the Asses

Word

re: #90 galloping granny

They shouldn't squawk. The legal age of majority in the United States of America is 18 - unless you want a beer. Or would like to be counted as an independent student because you support your self. Or unless you don't make squat flipping burgers at McD's and would be eligible for an earned income credit if only you were 25.

Oh, I know they shouldn't squawk. I'm just trying to figure out why they hover since Lucius says it's been an issue only since 2000. Are these the last of the Boomers' kids and they cannot give up control?

True to the liberal penchant for blaming every ill in the world on the USA, ABC News has produced a “report” claiming that the increasing number of guns and drug cartel violence in Mexico is all the fault of... the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. That’s right, it isn’t the drug dealers and killers in Mexico that are at fault, it’s James Madison and the Founding Father’s fault! Now, before you imagine that I am employing hyperbole in my introduction, just look at the title of their piece: “U.S. Guns Arming Mexican Drug Gangs; Second Amendment to Blame?”

[Link: www.stoptheaclu.com...]

Circumfer e nce

re: #102 BabbaZee

No LOL
he is spinning tunes

You are the morning DJ at WLGF!

Harry Chapin was a good guy.

re: #93 opnion

One can "HOPE"

And then we might make "PROGRESS!"

re: #75 Lucius Septimius

It has gotten demonstrably worse since 2000. The only times I ever saw parents before then was a graduation. Since then they are on campus more and more and calling and leaving messages. This week I've talked with two parents who wanted to make appointments to schedule their kid's classes. I wanted to ask "do you still wipe their butts too?" but I'm afraid that they'll say "but of course!"

Infantalize your children and don't be surprised when they still act like toddlers at 21.

Why do people do this? The depression babies were all skinflints. Most of today's parents of college age children are fifty or so. They came of age during the late 70's.
Should we blame Carter or disco?

re: #105 opnion

I got a WORD
in mah MOUTH!

re: #90 galloping granny

FIRPA stipulates that college student records remain private. That said, if the student signs a release, then the parents can get all the information they want. And from what I'm seeing, more and more parents are demanding that their kids sign the release. Regulations (both FIRPA and ADA) were also relaxed after the VaTech shooting, mainly because it was difficult for instructors and advisors to get information about their own students.

I don't have any problem with the people footing the bill having a chance to see things like grades, but it has really gone too far. I'm seeing more and more kids (they don't act like adults even if they are legally adults) who are totally unwilling or incapable of taking responsibility for their actions. "W" is becoming a common grade, and no shortage of students will just fail and then petition to get a "W" retroactively.

re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am at a Holiday Inn Express. Not feelin' that smart. Meh.

Those Cinnamon rolls suck. Nuke em in the microwave.

re: #108 BabbaZee

If I know what you meant, you don't have to correct spelling. Just when it throws the syntax or something off. Think I know how to spell cer cer cer cer...roundness?

Wow..just wow

......"You have to marvel at the naivety of former American president Jimmy Carter. The man who gave us the Iranian revolution is now in Gaza trying to resolve the Palestinian crisis."

"(...) Mr Carter would be better advised to reflect on the error of his ways than meddle in an issue where he no longer has the power or authority to influence the outcome."

The Daily Telegraph, London, 22 April 2008.

re: #106 MandyManners

Oh, I know they shouldn't squawk. I'm just trying to figure out why they hover since Lucius says it's been an issue only since 2000. Are these the last of the Boomers' kids and they cannot give up control?

They would be some pretty old boomers. Most of us did not have kids all that late in life. I would suspect it is more likely one generation down. The generation that first shipped their kiddos off to daycare as a way of life.

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Harry Chapin was a good guy.

Really?
Uccchhh....
Only for you

re: #114 opnion

Those Cinnamon rolls suck. Nuke em in the microwave.

Holiday Inn Express...550 calories each...12 grams of uh...well...my first name.

Did anybody hear Bush yesterday claim that ,not only is NAFTA good for the US, it creates jobs. Where? Not here

Switzerland freezes assets of 12 more Iranian companies

[Link: www.ejpress.org...]

Jim Croce - Operator

re: #119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holiday Inn Express...550 calories each...12 grams of uh...well...my first name.

Oh hell, go to Denny's & expense it. I highly recommend steak & eggs.

Here's some Hillary music (sorry Babba)

re: #113 Lucius Septimius

FIRPA stipulates that college student records remain private. That said, if the student signs a release, then the parents can get all the information they want. And from what I'm seeing, more and more parents are demanding that their kids sign the release. Regulations (both FIRPA and ADA) were also relaxed after the VaTech shooting, mainly because it was difficult for instructors and advisors to get information about their own students.

I don't have any problem with the people footing the bill having a chance to see things like grades, but it has really gone too far. I'm seeing more and more kids (they don't act like adults even if they are legally adults) who are totally unwilling or incapable of taking responsibility for their actions. "W" is becoming a common grade, and no shortage of students will just fail and then petition to get a "W" retroactively.

Oh I agree with you Lucius. I have been saying for many years that children do not automatically turn 18 and magically become responsible out of the blue - or know how to make a decision. These are skills to be learned and this generation as a whole seems to have almost no concept of personal responsibility.

But then we see a lot of that. Look at Obama: excuses, mis-speaks, "guilt by association" but not a single word of personal responsibility for his own words, actions or associations.

/Guess where the kids learned it?

James Taylor

re: #120 opnion

Did anybody hear Bush yesterday claim that ,not only is NAFTA good for the US, it creates jobs. Where? Not here

It DOES create jobs - in Canada and Mexico.

re: #107 storagemanager

[Link: www.stoptheaclu.com...]

Which came first, the gun or the gang?

re: #111 Jim in Virginia

Why do people do this? The depression babies were all skinflints. Most of today's parents of college age children are fifty or so. They came of age during the late 70's.
Should we blame Carter or disco?

Both.

Actually, Carter and disco (along with ferns, quiche, and earth shoes) were all symptoms of the mainlining of idiotic leftism in the butt end of the sixties. Besides, all of these kids were raised by day-care workers from what I can tell. The parents drop them off at "school" when they're 6 weeks old and then pick them up in time to drive them to college 18 years later. The parents feel guilty for having abandoned them to seek their own personal fulfillment and now are making up for it by enabling their worst habits.

As for the kids, as one colleague I know put it, the best way for smart kids to get even with their parents is to flunk out. Of course it's a losing strategy in the long run, but (or so I gather) psychically fulfilling as a form of revenge.

re: #120 opnion

Did anybody hear Bush yesterday claim that ,not only is NAFTA good for the US, it creates jobs. Where? Not here

Please.

You see I was not on the State Department Thread
Too pissed to post on it

DO NOT SAY JIHAD, INFIDELS.

And BTW to all the shrieking sock puppet lurkers, AI haters and I Me Mine loony MFers

American Infidel had zero finesse, no humility, lousy delivery and a bad attitude....

but she was right, wasn't she?

re: #127 galloping granny

It DOES create jobs - in Canada and Mexico.

That is the part that he left out.Worse, he may not realize what he said.

re: #117 galloping granny

They would be some pretty old boomers. Most of us did not have kids all that late in life. I would suspect it is more likely one generation down. The generation that first shipped their kiddos off to daycare as a way of life.

What're they trying to do? Make up for it?

Akhdam in Dar Salam: “Fire burned our huts, but nobody cares”

SANA’A, April 19 — Twenty Akhdam families still are living without a roof over their heads after a fire broke out last week in the community’s slum located in a desert-like area in Dar Salam in southeastern Sana’a city.

The families, who are living in very poor conditions with ashes nearby, are awaiting aid that hasn’t arrived yet

[Link: yementimes.com...]

re: #132 MandyManners

What're they trying to do? Make up for it?

Not that there's anything wrong with daycare. If you gotta' work, you gotta' work.

re: #111 Jim in Virginia

Why do people do this? The depression babies were all skinflints. Most of today's parents of college age children are fifty or so. They came of age during the late 70's.
Should we blame Carter or disco?

Colbert said that depression babies are old people who just haven't adjusted for inflation.

Greedy trade unions made NAFTA ...who do they vote for?

re: #124 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Besmirch not the memory of Farook Bulsara !

Gotta run Lizards.I do not want to become economically distressed like those bitter crackers in PA.
I could lose touch with my inner Obama. later

re: #125 galloping granny

Look at Obama: excuses, mis-speaks, "guilt by association" but not a single word of personal responsibility for his own words, actions or associations.

/Guess where the kids learned it?

Bingo!

The kids in college now have parents born between 1954 and 1964, mostly clustered right around 1960 (I knew I was old when I became older than my students' parents). These are the Obama generation.

re: #137 BabbaZee

Besmirch not the memory of Farook Bulsara !

That Freddie's real name?

re: #131 opnion

That is the part that he left out.Worse, he may not realize what he said.

If he said it yesterday, then it was likely at the press conference that he held with the President of Mexico and the Premier of Canada. . . . . . I suspect he knew exactly what he said.

Because there is no profit in making goods in America..we have NAFTA

re: #127 galloping granny

It DOES create jobs - in Canada and Mexico.

I suppose it depends on what sort of jobs you are talking about. I don't really think that you can support low to no skill manufacturing jobs in this country on US level wages, and remain competitive. Consumers are going to naturally gravitate toward products that have the lower price for the same perceived quality.

it's not wrong or right. it just is.

Morning again Lizards!

I received this in my email at work this morning LOL

re: #144 rightside

Har!

Damn Storage
this ain't freaking Lite FM
LOL

{Storage}

re: #134 MandyManners

Not that there's anything wrong with daycare. If you gotta' work, you gotta' work.

True, but it's the way they deal with the guilt. Most of the parents I see didn't work full time because they needed the money, but because they put career first and kids second. They feel guilty for their own selfishness, but make up for it by spoiling them.

I have had students who came from single-parent households where they were in day care because mom (or dad, in some cases) had to work to keep body and soul together. Those kids are in good shape and tend to be very responsible -- they are aware of and appreciate their parent's sacrifices. It's the upper-middle class kids driving cars worth more than I make in a year that mommy and daddy got them who are the problem.

re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

yes
He was from Zoroastrian (Persian Iranian) parents

DOCUMENTS praising holy war and martyrdom were found at the Walthamstow home of a man accused of leading a plot to blow up passenger planes.
The material said no deed would give rewards' like an act of jihad and another said defeating the enemy meant striking terror in their hearts', jurors at Woolwich Crown Court were told.
The material seized included books on the life of the Prophet Mohammed, details of disabled access to sites across in London, a chemistry textbook and bank documents.
Shop worker Showkoth Uddin earlier told the court how he wrapped four glass measuring jars bought by Arafat Waheed Khan, of Farnan Avenue,Walthamstow.
The 26-year-old also bought syringes and needles at a central London pharmacy.
Were they planning to smuggle stuff on board or inside hidden in a wheelchair?

[Link: www.newenglishreview.org...]

re: #143 beblebrox

Ok, open thread. No arguing allowed.

You're right. (ducks and runs off to make the donuts)

Bye now.

re: #144 rightside

Morning again Lizards!

I received this in my email at work this morning LOL

That is hysterical

re: #134 MandyManners

Not that there's anything wrong with daycare. If you gotta' work, you gotta' work.

Sometimes that is true. But for many families, by the time you add up the cost of daycare along with the extra gas, clothing & lunch that mom has to buy in order to work plus the extra taxes the family will pay, two working parents is actually a losing proposition. Not to mention the extra cost of food because mom has less time to cook so she serves more expensive pre-prepared stuff. The trouble is, many families don't bother to stop to do the math first because they think they "need" two paychecks.

re: #148 BabbaZee

yes
He was from Zoroastrian (Persian Iranian) parents

You know I don't like to cuss...but...shit.

BabbaZee...songs I listen too around the campfire.

re: #153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I myself enjoy a bit of profanity.
Why shit?

re: #154 storagemanager

BabbaZee...songs I listen too around the campfire.

Sing around the Campfire!
Join the Campfire Girls!

(seventies commercial)

re: #154 storagemanager

I'm just bustin' 'em on ya bro

re: #138 opnion

Gotta run Lizards.I do not want to become economically distressed like those bitter crackers in PA.
I could lose touch with my inner Obama. later

You touch your inner Obama?

re: #155 BabbaZee

Like, wow! I am surprised by that. Shocked. Amazed. I mean, a gay middle-easterner? Who did he think he was? Arafish?

re: #150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ok, open thread. No arguing allowed.

You're right. (ducks and runs off to make the donuts)

Bye now.

didn't mean to start one. I just happen to live in an area devestated by the collapse of manufacturing (Pittsburgh). and have seen the results.

re: #147 Lucius Septimius

True, but it's the way they deal with the guilt. Most of the parents I see didn't work full time because they needed the money, but because they put career first and kids second. They feel guilty for their own selfishness, but make up for it by spoiling them.

I have had students who came from single-parent households where they were in day care because mom (or dad, in some cases) had to work to keep body and soul together. Those kids are in good shape and tend to be very responsible -- they are aware of and appreciate their parent's sacrifices. It's the upper-middle class kids driving cars worth more than I make in a year that mommy and daddy got them who are the problem.

You don't know what those parents' early working lives were like. Perhaps many needed two incomes just to stay afloat.

But, I don't wanna' drag this into a debate about working parents.

The leader of an Indonesian sect who had controversially claimed he was a prophet was jailed for four years for contempt against Islam on Wednesday.

Ahmad Mushaddeq alias Abu Salam, 63, leader of the Al Qiyadah Al Islamiyah sect, was "guilty of showing contempt in public against a religion recognized by the state," Judge Zahrul Rabaid told a packed courtroom.

The verdict was greeted by religious chanting by hundreds of followers who had crammed South Jakarta district court since early in the morning. A police officer said 2,000 people were at the venue.

Mushaddeq's claim violated a central Islamic tenet that the Prophet Muhammad is the last prophet and will not be followed by any other messengers from God

.
[Link: www.alarabiya.net...]

re: #144 rightside

that's funny.lol

re: #161 MandyManners

You don't know what those parents' early working lives were like. Perhaps many needed two incomes just to stay afloat.

But, I don't wanna' drag this into a debate about working parents.

Well I know what the early working lives of a two parent household with parents born around 1960 was like: those parents did not NEED two incomes by any stretch of the imagination. If Mommy worked in the early 80's virtually anywhere in this country it was because she was invested in a career or the kids were in school and she was bored.

On a more timely note, I was looking at the precinct results this morning for my area of Western Pennsylvania. It seems Obama must have touched a raw nerve here. In a precinct split almost down the middle R to D; on the Dem side only 2 people voted for Obama out of about 400 Dems who showed up to vote yesterday.

re: #159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He did not grow up in Iran lol

re: #158 MandyManners

You touch your inner Obama?

rotf

re: #164 galloping granny

Not all familiies.

After 15 years of marriage, a neighbor told the wife that her son found nude pictures of her husband on the internet. The Egyptian wife logged in to see her husband exposing his body and chatting with foreign women, according to press reports Tuesday.

Unable to confront her husband, the wife resorted to a family court, which summoned the husband.

But he failed to show up and accused the wife of slandering him, calling her crazy. The wife filed for khol'a (the wife’s right to divorce), and she was granted divorce, Saudi daily Riyadh reported.

[Link: www.alarabiya.net...]

re: #167 BabbaZee

How are you this wonderful Spring morning?

re: #165 beblebrox

On a more timely note, I was looking at the precinct results this morning for my area of Western Pennsylvania. It seems Obama must have touched a raw nerve here. In a precinct split almost down the middle R to D; on the Dem side only 2 people voted for Obama out of about 400 Dems who showed up to vote yesterday.

YEEE-HAW! Way to go! I hope your precinct is a harbinger of more to come.

re: #169 storagemanager

[Link: www.alarabiya.net...]

working in sorcery

Did it cause the husbands' penises to disappear?

re: #161 MandyManners

You don't know what those parents' early working lives were like. Perhaps many needed two incomes just to stay afloat.

But, I don't wanna' drag this into a debate about working parents.

In the end, it's not the working, or even the day care; it's the way that the parents deal with it. Both my parents worked, and the message I got from them was "we all have responsibilities, and that includes you." The students I see get the message "we're sorry that we're never around; here -- have a PlayStation, a flat screen TV, an Audi Quattro, unlimited texting on your $400 phone, and college tuition so we'll feel better about ourselves."

My nine-year-old started asking yesterday when he can start earning money weeding the neighbors' yards. If I hadn't been driving, I'd have kissed him right then and there.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has assured Damascus that Israel is prepared to implement full withdrawal from the occupied Golan Heights, Arabic press reports said on Wednesday.

[Link: www.albawaba.com...]

re: #171 galloping granny

YEEE-HAW! Way to go! I hope your precinct is a harbinger of more to come.

Too bad he didn't make that "bitter" comment long before now.

re: #167 BabbaZee

Hey Babba! How ya doing today?

re: #152 galloping granny

my wife started to work third shift 22 years ago so we did not have to pay for day care. I did thet nights and she did the days.

re: #11 Lucius Septimius

A long, long time ago I had a course in college on Ice Ages, and that was the prediction then. The projections we were shown even made room for "man-made global warming" but showed that as a short upward blip in a long-term descent into the cold.

Behold... The age Of Ragnarok..............Good morning Lucius....

re: #170 MandyManners

How are you this wonderful Spring morning?

Mandy I wish I could say dandy, candy... but I am mighty low mah sister.

re: #178 doriangrey

Morning!

Speaking of Ragnarok, must go off and teach my Viking class.

Later, all.

re: #173 Lucius Septimius

In the end, it's not the working, or even the day care; it's the way that the parents deal with it. Both my parents worked, and the message I got from them was "we all have responsibilities, and that includes you." The students I see get the message "we're sorry that we're never around; here -- have a PlayStation, a flat screen TV, an Audi Quattro, unlimited texting on your $400 phone, and college tuition so we'll feel better about ourselves."

My nine-year-old started asking yesterday when he can start earning money weeding the neighbors' yards. If I hadn't been driving, I'd have kissed him right then and there.

Bingo!

re: #168 MandyManners

Not all familiies.

Mandy, I lived in one of the most economically depressed areas of the entire country in the 80's. A full third of the kids in one town I lived in got free or reduced price school lunch. I ran a food pantry for the feds during that time. Overwhelmingly, mothers of small children from two parent families did not put them into daycare and did not hold jobs outside of the home until at least the time the children were in school. Exception: women who were very vested in lucrative careers who could afford to pay for the relatively scarce and expensive day care.

At the time, daycare was a very new phenomenon in most of the country. And expensive.

re: #176 Lucius Septimius

Oh Lucius. It's rough on me today.

re: #179 BabbaZee

( ( ( ( ( ( BabbaZee ) ) ) ) ) )

(That's a big, gentle hug.

re: #171 galloping granny

YEEE-HAW! Way to go! I hope your precinct is a harbinger of more to come.

We're a rural farming area about 25 miles west of Pittsburgh. Any many around here are fairly religious, and i know of noone without at least one gun in the house. We don't take too kindly to being disparaged. I heard a lot of negative comments in line yesterday about that subject.

Hate to bring up bad news. Well I guess most of you have heard about this by now. [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Why bring this up now after 25,30 years? This sounds just a bit too suspicious to me. Personally,I am begining to believe there really might be someone,or even a hand full of folks in the state or justice department that has it in for Israel and will do anything to destroy US Israel relations.

re: #183 BabbaZee

I'm sorry to hear that -- feel better. That's an order!

Bye for now; duty calls.

re: #179 BabbaZee

Mandy I wish I could say dandy, candy... but I am mighty low mah sister.

((BabbaZee)) Maybe this will cheer you up a little...

re: #173 Lucius Septimius

In the end, it's not the working, or even the day care; it's the way that the parents deal with it. Both my parents worked, and the message I got from them was "we all have responsibilities, and that includes you." The students I see get the message "we're sorry that we're never around; here -- have a PlayStation, a flat screen TV, an Audi Quattro, unlimited texting on your $400 phone, and college tuition so we'll feel better about ourselves."

My nine-year-old started asking yesterday when he can start earning money weeding the neighbors' yards. If I hadn't been driving, I'd have kissed him right then and there.

The 11 year old kiddo here is downright mad that she is not yet old enough to get a job. She wants a Mac to call her own. Various family members have pledged to match her dollar for dollar, but she still needs $800 or so. Saving soda cans is s-l-o-w.

Thanks
Mandy
Lucius
and
Dorian

re: #182 galloping granny

I'm very lucky that I've had my folks to pick up the slack when I've been working or in school. I'm even more blessed to have my dad step up to be a father figure. He missed out on our growing up when he was flying point in the Navy in the 60s and 70s, and then climbing the corporate ladder in the 70s, 80s and 90s so, he's really enjoyed taking The Kid fishing, computing, sporting, et cet..

NEW DELHI: Ahead of President Mahmoud Ahamdinejad’s visit here next week, India yesterday asked the US not to give unsolicited “guidance” on the course of its centuries-old relations with Iran and advocated dialogue to resolve the impasse over the Iranian nuclear programme.
“Neither country needs any guidance on the future conduct of bilateral relations as both countries believe that engagement and dialogue alone lead to peace,” external affairs ministry spokesman Navtej Sarna said in response to prescriptive comments made by the spokesman of the US State Department.
“It is important that the genius of each nation living in a particular region is respected and allowed to flower to meet the expectations of enriching relations with neighbours,” Sarna said, registering India’s displeasure at the perceived attempt by the US to meddle in its foreign policy, especially in the context of its ties with Iran.
“Both nations are perfectly capable of managing all aspects of their relationship with the appropriate degree of care and attention,” Sarna said while stressing on civlisational ties between India and Iran which span centuries.

Ties that go back thousands of years...are not easy to cut. [Link: www.gulf-times.com...]

re: #179 BabbaZee

Mandy I wish I could say dandy, candy... but I am mighty low mah sister.

I'm sorry you aren't feeling well today Babba. This is The Day here. Soon as I drag my nephew off the couch the rototiller gets run around the field, the fence goes up and peas are being planted. Daughter brought me two large bottles of aspirin yesterday. Good thing - might need them.

On a positive note, I did manage to climb the hill to the garden. Had my doubts there. Was seriously considering training the dog we are inheriting to haul me up there in the garden cart. (Winter wasn't good to me this year.)

re: #193 galloping granny

Thanks Granny.
Later on I'll get you that "60" stuff I was talking about the other day
Fascinating...

re: #191 MandyManners

I'm very lucky that I've had my folks to pick up the slack when I've been working or in school. I'm even more blessed to have my dad step up to be a father figure. He missed out on our growing up when he was flying point in the Navy in the 60s and 70s, and then climbing the corporate ladder in the 70s, 80s and 90s so, he's really enjoyed taking The Kid fishing, computing, sporting, et cet..

You are really lucky. Being a single parent can be a very tough row to hoe. On the other hand, since you've no one to blame but yourself and no one to expect to take care of things but yourself, it is pretty easy to maintain focus on parenting rather than expecting your partner to take care of it as so often happens.

re: #179 BabbaZee

Well, I'm sending prayers, new-age kind thoughts, and everything else I can think of in your general direction (facing away from Mecca, farting in their general direction).

re: #194 BabbaZee

Thanks Granny.
Later on I'll get you that "60" stuff I was talking about the other day
Fascinating...

Oh good. Been trying to figure out what you meant. . .

re: #190 BabbaZee

17The righteous cry, and the LORD heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles.

18The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.

19Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivereth him out of them all.

20He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.

21Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate.

22The LORD redeemeth the soul of his servants: and none of them that trust in him shall be desolate

re: #196 fat bastard vegetarian

Well, I'm sending prayers, new-age kind thoughts, and everything else I can think of in your general direction (facing away from Mecca, farting in their general direction).

Farting in Mecca's general direction is always a good start....

Good morning, all...

I heard on the radio yesterday that Jeff Healey had died (back in March, apparently). The cancer that took his eyesight at age 1 came back and took the rest of him at age 41.

Talk about making lemonade from lemons! May he rest in peace.

Goes to show you can't trust illegal aliens. ET busted for cooking meth.

Link...... [Link: i281.photobucket.com...]

re: #200 christheprofessor

Good morning, all...

I heard on the radio yesterday that Jeff Healey had died (back in March, apparently). The cancer that took his eyesight at age 1 came back and took the rest of him at age 41.

Talk about making lemonade from lemons! May he rest in peace.

Big sigh..... The world has lost a exceptional musician and guitarist....

re: #201 guzziguy

Goes to show you can't trust illegal aliens. ET busted for cooking meth.

Link...... [Link: i281.photobucket.com...]

Holy crap.... That has to be a photochop..........

re: #196 fat bastard vegetarian

Thanks, Chaucer!

re: #198 storagemanager

{storage}

re: #201 guzziguy

Goes to show you can't trust illegal aliens. ET busted for cooking meth.

Link...... [Link: i281.photobucket.com...]

AGGGGHH!

lol!

re: #206 BabbaZee

AGGGGHH!

lol!

Brain bleach for that image.....

Baghdad, Apr 23, (VOI)- At least 400 civilians were killed and 1720 others, including women and children, were wounded in the armed confrontations and bombarding operations that took place in Sadr city over the last three weeks, Falah Shenshel, lawmaker, said on Wednesday

[Link: www.aswataliraq.info...]

re: #186 yellowroseoftexas

You are correct.

re: #202 doriangrey

Yup. Here he is with another late, great blues musician, SRV.

Dawn breaks on the San Gabriel Mountains

Earth First! (People Later)

Obama's famous waffle was on eBay earlier. >_> Auction's done though...

re: #212 BabbaZee

Earth will evolve new humans to replace the ones we lose!

///////////////

Oh, WTF Newt!?

babybacks in the fridge from last night..breakfast!

CTP check yer mail

re: #213 laZardo

Obama's famous waffle was on eBay earlier. >_> Auction's done though...

re: #215 rightside

The one with Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson is equally distasteful

re: #217 BabbaZee

Read and responded...

re: #214 laZardo

lol

Good morning, Lizards.
A beautiful morning along the Lake Michigan shoreline, 51 degrees with another warm and sunny day on tap.

Started my certification course yesterday, and early this afternoon I have an interview with a local agency wanting to hire me to join their home healthcare team.... the HR manager told me that I'm exactly what they are looking for. If they do hire me I'll be able to start work right away, on a schedule that will still allow me to finish up the coursework. Very good news for my family, as we won't have to worry about selling the house now.

From [Link: www.thereligionofpeace.com,...] the latest offerings from the religion of slice, dice, hack, shoot and maim:

4/22/2008 (Yala, Thailand) - A villager is shot three times in the head by Islamists.
4/21/2008 (Jamrud, Pakistan) - Two local security personnel are gunned down in a brutal ambush by dozens of Islamic fighters.
4/21/2008 (Guda, Somalia) - Islamic militias attack a small town, killing four local defenders.
4/21/2008 (Baidoa, Somalia) - A government official is assassinated by Islamic terrorists.
4/21/2008 (Kandahar, Afghanistan) - Six local policemen are murdered in an attack on their checkpoint by religious extremists.
4/21/2008 (Mosul, Iraq) - A teenager is among three civilians cut down by militant Sunnis.

The "deadly acts of terror since 9/11" counter reads: 10965

Weekly Jihad Report for Apr. 12 - Apr. 18:

Jihad Attacks: 45
Dead Bodies: 336
Critically Injured: 435

The heavy-handed thuggish morality police in Iran bust down the door of a private birthday party, and arrest 75 young people:

Tehran, 22 April(AKI) - Seventy-five young people accused of 'immoral acts' have been arrested by police at a birthday party in the city of Shiraz in southwestern Iran.

The young men and women were accused of "immoral acts" and of holding a "non-authorised promiscuous gathering" said the chief commander of the police forces, Ali Moayyedi.

"These young people were dancing, drinking alcohol and listening to forbidden western music," said Moayyedi.

It is not the first time police have raided private parties and arrested people.

While they may not approve of such behaviour at parties, some Muslim clerics consider these kinds of police raids unjustified and an intrusion into people's private lives.

Hows' everyone today?

re: #195 galloping granny

You are really lucky. Being a single parent can be a very tough row to hoe. On the other hand, since you've no one to blame but yourself and no one to expect to take care of things but yourself, it is pretty easy to maintain focus on parenting rather than expecting your partner to take care of it as so often happens.

I cannot tell you how glad I am that the X is in the wind.

re: #212 BabbaZee

Good read, thanks! More common sense ammo.

re: #224 rightside

Good read, thanks! More common sense ammo.

Problem is you can never reason someone out of what they did not use reason to get themselves into to begin with

So common sense ammo only works on those who already possess common sense

lol

re: #224 rightside

Good read, thanks! More common sense ammo.

Lots more ammo, and dont forget the extra ammo.....

Angel Eyes

How cool is it that so many of his songs were eye or sight themed?

re: #222 irish rose

"These young people were dancing, drinking alcohol and listening to forbidden western music," said Moayyedi.

In other words, just doing what people do at parties?

/there are no parties in Islam

re: #226 doriangrey

Lots more ammo, and dont forget the extra ammo.....

BLINK

LOUISVILLE, Ky. - A Frankfort man was arrested on drug trafficking charges early Sunday morning after he was reportedly pumping gas into an imaginary vehicle. According to the arrest report, Metro Police arrived at a gas station at First and Jefferson streets in Louisville and immediately smelled marijuana coming from Joshua L. Moore, who station clerks contend was filling up an imaginary vehicle.

Officers searched Moore and found “two large baggies” of marijuana and a large amount of Ecstasy. Police said Moore also had a cell phone and a large amount of money, which they said was indicative of trafficking.

[Link: patdollard.com...]

re: #223 MandyManners

I cannot tell you how glad I am that the X is in the wind.

Yes, I always found it far easier to simply deal with it all myself than to deal with an idiot that left things up to me and then complained about every last decision.

Every year I sit for a few minutes on the anniversary of the day I threw him out and the anniversary of the day the divorce was final and think about the decisions I made. Even in the very hardest of years - and there have been some real monsters - I have never regretted it for a single fraction of a second.

re: #230 storagemanager

That's some seriously strong weed LOL

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

Think Obama was jonesing for a Kool last night or what?

re: #227 christheprofessor

Angel Eyes

How cool is it that so many of his songs were eye or sight themed?

Oh cool was the way he played... As I guitar player I can tell you watching Jeff play was a real treat...

re: #225 BabbaZee
Good point, but I couldn't have put it more eloquently as they did. :^)

re: #226 doriangrey
Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition! (I would have linked to a SOAD video on youtube, but can't access it at work LOL)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Bush administration plans to brief U.S. lawmakers behind closed doors on Thursday about North Korea’s suspected nuclear cooperation with Syria, congressional sources said on Tuesday.

The White House has said little in public about the issue since Israel conducted a mysterious September 6 air strike inside Syria that U.S. media reports said was directed at a nuclear site that may have been built with North Korean assistance.

While a handful of lawmakers were briefed on the issue last year, the decision to widen the circle substantially comes as Washington appears closer to a deal for North Korea to provide a long overdue declaration of its nuclear programs.

Once the poor, communist state has produced the declaration, the United States is expected to ease sanctions on Pyongyang that flow from its presence on the U.S. list of state sponsors of terrorism and the U.S. Trading With the Enemy Act.

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re: #230 storagemanager

Uh...he was just making a statement on how wasteful modern day society is! An SUV could've easily burned that much fuel before it left the station!

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re: #235 rightside

HAHA that's exactly the song I linked to

If only Hillary can dig up an audio where Barry slanders North Carolina and Indiana crackers.

re: #233 loppyd

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

Think Obama was jonesing for a Kool last night or what?

How come we never see images of him smoking? *RME*

Good Morning Lizards

Looks like Illinois Democratic Governor Blagojevich has himself a little problem. I mention that he is a Democrat, cause the Chicago Sun Times has somehow forgotten to mention that. As opposed to when former Gov. and general dirtball George Ryan was getting prosecuted, when his being a Republican was boldfaced in the Sun Times headlines.

But I digress.

Ex-aide: I paid gov for my job

A former top official in Gov. Blagojevich's administration said Tuesday the governor gave him a $127,000-a-year state job in exchange for pouring cash into Blagojevich's campaign fund, including tens of thousands of dollars out of his own pocket.

That bombshell from Ali Ata came as the onetime director of the Illinois Finance Authority pleaded guilty in a deal in which prosecutors plan to have him testify in the ongoing corruption trial of former Blagojevich fund-raiser Tony Rezko.

At the very least, I think our current Gov. has a real good chance of becoming a guest of the State at one of our finer correctional facilites for a while in the future.

But buried down at the bottom of the article comes this:

Ata gave a total of $65,000 to Blagojevich's gubernatorial campaign fund. He also contributed $5,000 to Democratic White House hopeful Barack Obama, who gave that money to charity after Ata's indictment last year.

This guy Ata is going to be singing like a bird. Just something to keep an eye on going forward.

By the way, Jammie, if you are out there, you got mail :)

Drive by post, Lizard-Dim!

G'mornin' Babba!

Mom's back in the hospital, and I'm traveling. I owe my wife and kids big time,....

Got to go out with my team last night for a great dinner and some beverages at the Bamboo Room. What a great place!

The Grass is Dead was not on the venue last night though. Bummer.

re: #230 storagemanager

just say no!

re: #230 storagemanager

[Link: patdollard.com...]

Not a very good dealer if he was partaking of his stuff and putting himself in an untenable situation.

re: #233 loppyd

{Head Loppy Dee}

Well I got to run, I have a massive order that needs to be shipped by next Tuesday so I'm a going in early and stayin late to make sure its ready to ship on time... (somebody has to make sure our military boys have the stuff they need to kill those Muslim Terrorists)...

re: #242 BulgarWheat

{Bulgar}

Let me know what happens to Mom

re: #238 BabbaZee

Excellent! Likeminded!

re: #240 rightside

How come we never see images of him smoking? *RME*

There has got to be a pic somewhere....

re: #231 galloping granny

Yes, I always found it far easier to simply deal with it all myself than to deal with an idiot that left things up to me and then complained about every last decision.

Every year I sit for a few minutes on the anniversary of the day I threw him out and the anniversary of the day the divorce was final and think about the decisions I made. Even in the very hardest of years - and there have been some real monsters - I have never regretted it for a single fraction of a second.

I cannot recall the date that the final order was signed! I think I remember which year it was. Maybe not. Maybe I should drag out the final order. Nah.

re: #249 loppyd

There has got to be a pic somewhere....

Sure are - I've seen them. Have we outlawed smoking in the White House yet?

re: #234 doriangrey

Yes, very true. I always wanted to play guitar, but I have bad wrists (I can only bend them about 60 degrees, 90 is normal). Had I known one could play like that, I might have taken it up!

re: #233 loppyd

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

Think Obama was jonesing for a Kool last night or what?

I wonder if WAB threw things. Maybe a waffle iron?

re: #242 BulgarWheat

Sorry to hear that about your mom....

Prayers for you all heading up.

re: #233 loppyd

good morning loppy.

Hey, do me a favor will ya?

It's been a while since I've seen the baseball standings.

Please check and tell me who is in 1st place in the American League East, the American League Central, and the National League Central?

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re: #236 storagemanager

[Link: patdollard.com...]

Is the beat of the drums getting louder?

All his hallucination weed are belong to us!
~ The Ganjahadeen

Lot's of pictures of the Obamessiah smoking on google.

re: #253 MandyManners

I wonder if WAB threw things. Maybe a waffle iron?

LOL.

Me thinks she is extra A today.

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re: #239 opnion

If only Hillary can dig up an audio where Barry slanders North Carolina and Indiana crackers.

Or, just keep harping on the previous gaffe. I bet lotsa' Tar Heels and Hoosiers like their Bibles and guns.

re: #249 loppyd

Yes, Hotair often uses one of those, but I meant more from the MSM recently. Don't tell me they haven't seen him smoking once all this time they are fawning all over him, and trying merely to touch the hem of his garment.