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Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:06:36 am PDT

Media Matters shill Eric Boehlert is at it again, with another bilious rant about “warbloggers:” Michelle Malkin and the warbloggers get everything wrong — again.

I wouldn’t even bother with Boehlert’s nonsense, except that his description of our coverage of AP photographer Bilal Hussein’s release under an Iraqi amnesty law is so laughably dishonest it needs a reply.

Ditto for warblogging central, Little Green Footballs: “The Associated Press story about the release of photographer Bilal Hussein, strangely, does not explain that Hussein was released because of a new Iraqi amnesty law — not because the charges were found to be without merit.”

But where were the details about this amnesty law? Where were the facts that proved that Iraqi judges, in an extraordinarily high-profile case against a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, and in a case the U.S. military was heavily invested in, never examined the evidence presented against Hussein and simply allowed him to walk free regardless of his guilt or innocence? Did warbloggers quote U.S. military officials? Did they research Iraqi law? Did they even cite news accounts? No — they just liked the sound of the amnesty spin.

No, actually our report about the amnesty law comes directly from none other than the Associated Press. Here’s our quote from the AP article, since Boehlert appears to have missed it somehow:

BAGHDAD (AP) - An Iraqi judicial committee has dismissed terrorism-related allegations against Associated Press photographer Bilal Hussein and ordered him freed after nearly two years in U.S. military custody.

The decision by a four-judge panel says Hussein’s case falls under a new amnesty law and orders Iraqi courts to “cease legal proceedings.”

The shill continues:

Still curious as to how LGF could be so certain in its April 16 item about the details of the amnesty law and how it represented Hussein’s bogus, get-of-jail card, I went back and looked at what LGF wrote following the April 9 news that the Iraqi judges had dismissed charges against Hussein.

LGF posted this: “AP photographer Bilal Hussein has received amnesty from the Iraqi government, under a new law. I was unable to find any details about this ‘new law,’ but apparently it covers Hussein.” [emphasis added]

Oh, my. Warbloggers maintain this fantasy that they were right all along about Hussein being a terrorist and it was only the creation of a new amnesty law that saved him from a certain prison sentence. But in truth, warbloggers have no idea what the amnesty law means.

Interesting that Boehlert “went back and looked at what LGF wrote,” and yet somehow missed the update we posted 11 minutes after the original post, with details about the amnesty law in question. Of course, mentioning that wouldn’t fit the “narrative” he’s creating.

Media Matters, of course, is a hard left propaganda outfit funded by George Soros. They are heavily invested in promoting the kind of biased reporting that is a natural outcome of mainstream media’s use of local stringers in Iraq; it’s important for them to discredit anyone who pulls back the curtain, so the propaganda can continue to flow. And these are the tactics they use: selective quoting and exaggerated misrepresentations of their opponent’s views.

For example, this is what I actually wrote about Hussein’s amnesty release:

Amnesty, of course, does not necessarily equal innocence. We’ll have to see what the military decides to do next.

But in Boehlert’s distorted fun-house mirror version:

Where were the facts that proved that Iraqi judges, in an extraordinarily high-profile case against a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, and in a case the U.S. military was heavily invested in, never examined the evidence presented against Hussein and simply allowed him to walk free regardless of his guilt or innocence?

These are opinions that I never expressed; they come from nowhere except Boehlert’s fevered imagination.

Boehlert concludes by stating that Bilal Hussein was completely innocent of all the allegations against him. Boehlert’s source for this? Bilal Hussein’s AP-funded lawyer.

Now there’s an unbiased source.

UPDATE at 4/23/08 12:56:47 pm:

Since this smear piece was posted at Media Matters, we’ve gotten all of 14 ... yes, 14 ... hits from their page.

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1 Schwarze Tulpe  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:09:31am

His been nicely baited to respond to your comment. I hope he replies. If he dares to.

2 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:09:47am

Cognito will explain all. Not to worry.

3 Diamond Bullet  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:09:49am

My favorite is when the AP cites Reuters for its source. It reminds me of the card soldiers protecting the Red Queen.

4 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:10:03am

Over target, flak heavy....

5 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:10:43am

Reuters has been here five times so far today? For what?

6 BGOH  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:10:55am

When does this guy get hired by Obama's campaign? He could take charge of the Magical Name Vanishing Department.

7 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:11:00am

Media Matters - pwn3d.

8 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:11:19am

re: #2 mama winger

Cognito will explain all. Not to worry.

When will he deign to descend from Mt. Olympus? I gotta' be sure I'm not busy cleaning toilets.

9 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:11:27am

Isn't Media Matters MSNBC's research division?

10 Genosaurer  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:11:43am

Why should the truth get in the way of a good story?

/

11 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:11:50am

Now 'amnesty' has been designated a 'spin' word.
Expanding the narrative of forbidden communication devices.

12 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:12:11am
But in truth, warbloggers have no idea what the amnesty law means.

I think it's called "projection".

13 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:12:21am

re: #8 MandyManners

When will he deign to descend from Mt. Olympus? I gotta' be sure I'm not busy cleaning toilets.

I say give it about ten minutes or so......

14 Lawrence Schmerel  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:12:38am

Good smack down of Media Matters' attack, Charles.

15 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:12:45am

Establish the narrative, they can flesh out the details later

16 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:12:48am

off to plant roses

17 Alouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:13:33am

Isn't Media Matters a wholly owned subsidiary of Soros Stan?

18 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:13:33am

If by "war" he means the fight against oppressive sharia law and it's adherent's desire to impose it on all peoples of the world, then yes, this is "warblogging central".

19 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:14:02am

That's not even flak. That's poor reading comprehension and the need to post something, anything, regardless of how stupid it will make one appear.

Indeed, after Charles posted that he wasn't familiar with the new law and whether it was applicable, I used by Google-fu and found the appropriate links to news sources showing the story. Charles updated minutes later. Funny how that works - Army of Davids and all that to get the facts straight.

Too bad Eric Boehlert couldn't do the same. If he had, of course, we wouldn't have a post bashing his poor reading comprehension and lack of Google-fu.

20 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:17:09am

A relevant passage from the law:

The following (individuals) are excepted from of the provision of Article 1 of this law:
.....
B. Terrorist crimes, if they caused a death or permanent disability.

Article 4
If any individual who received amnesty in accordance with the provision of this commits a premeditated crime from the crimes mentioned in Article 2 of this law within five years from the date of amnesty, the penalties for the crime for which he received amnesty will be implemented, and punitive procedures will be taken against him even if the individual received amnesty while he is in a trial or in the investigating stage.

21 opnion  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:17:19am

Well now wait. The guys attorney said that he is innocent?
That closes the deal. He has been to law school & Hillary & Barry are lawyers. They have never lied to you.

22 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:17:52am

Why? Why did they feel this was necessary? Picking this fight seems gratuitous and silly...

23 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:18:27am

re: #16 mama winger

off to plant roses

And miss the Great Fertilizer?

24 Ma Sands  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:18:30am

re: #2 mama winger

Mama! Noam!

....sigh.... --talk about baitin'! ):


/ heehee :)

25 markx  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:18:44am

Please don't confuse me with facts.

/

26 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:19:05am

re: #22 coquimbojoe

Why? Why did they feel this was necessary? Picking this fight seems gratuitous and silly...

Because they are morally and intellectually bankrupt.

27 X-ray  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:19:30am

I think this shows that Eric Boehlert's target audience only reads the titles (and maybe that first snarky line after).

The length of the article is only added to show importance.

28 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:20:19am

If by "war" he means combating idiotarian emotion with evidence and reason, well then yes, again, this is "warblogging central".

29 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:22:03am

re: #22 coquimbojoe

Why? Why did they feel this was necessary? Picking this fight seems gratuitous and silly...

I'm wondering the same thing.
When people get so testy and defensive, I smell a guilty conscience.

30 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:22:06am

To be warblogging central, we talk a lot about pie.

31 badsysop  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:22:47am

Media Matters is biased garbage... It is when the MSM latches on to the disingenuous piles of crap that come from that wasteland that it really pisses me off.

Anyone with a brain can dismiss ANY AND EVERYTHING that comes from media matters. Yet, they are "news" to google and any mindless person could get suckered as if it has real stories and not realize that it is just a bunch of cherry-picked comments, lying by omission, and biased language.

32 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:22:50am

WATERBLOG BOEHLERT

33 x-ray  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:22:52am

re: #30 Silhouette

To be warblogging central, we talk a lot about pie.

and Boobs

34 mean Gene  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:22:57am

Maybe there'll soon be a media Matters Roseanne Roseannadanna moment: Nevermind!

35 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:23:03am

Trying to alter reality is sure sign of idiocy, Eric. Re-reading and still not understanding is another.

36 friarstale  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:23:09am

Charles, way to go!
Your blog here is so important that it draws the attention of Media Matters!
Wow
Congrats
I had no idea you were so important
as important as Rush Limbaugh and Don Imus

and yet you risk this glorious attention from such an important source by trying to turn the tables on them and criticize the criticizers?

are you trying to ruin things for yourself?

I just can't fathom you, Charles
but go ahead, it's your website...

/Media Matters is, according to google:
Media Matters A non-profit progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in ...

37 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:23:19am

Of course, Mrs. Clinton has proudly noted she helped create Media Matters.

I

38 opnion  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:23:28am

re: #28 Slumbering Behemoth

If by "war" he means combating idiotarian emotion with evidence and reason, well then yes, again, this is "warblogging central".

He is using warblog in a pejoritive sense. The implication is that we are all war mongers.

39 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:23:46am

Boehlert takes note of Glenn Greenwald decrying the collective lack of right-wing blogging standards, blind to the huge sock puppet in the room.

40 opnion  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:24:15am

re: #33 x-ray

and Boobs

Big ones

41 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:24:20am
42 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:24:32am

It isn't Facts Matters, is it, it's more like What I'll do for some of Soros' money Matters.

43 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:24:38am

re: #2 mama winger

Cognito will explain all. Not to worry.

Absolutely. It will come in a self congratulatory package wrapped in smugness and tied with bow of pretentiousness.

44 wrenchwench  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:25:43am
(See Glenn Greenwald's epic takedown on the collective lack of right-wing blogging standards, here.)

He has the bestest sources on everything!

45 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:28:00am

Worst Campaign Idea Ever?

Hoosier congressional candidate speaks at birthday party for Hitler, in Chicago

WTF?

46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:28:03am

re: #34 mean Gene

Maybe there'll soon be a media Matters Roseanne Roseannadanna moment: Nevermind!

Emily Letella, Gene.

47 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:29:02am

re: #36 friarstale

Media Matters is a bought-and-paid-for pseudo-progressive "research" and non-information propaganda center dedicated to comprehensively libeling, lying about, and inventing crap out of whole cloth regarding conservative issues and spokespersons ...

Fixed it for ya.

48 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:29:10am

Media Matters is a source for the MSM, but not really part of it. Cognito will defend the MSM units that pick this up, not Media Matters itself. (my best guess)

49 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:29:35am

Still no sign of a correction from Media Matters.
Surprised?

50 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:29:55am

re: #49 Killgore Trout

Still no sign of a correction from Media Matters.
Surprised?

They've Moved On.

51 opnion  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:30:03am

The right of center blogs really shook up the MSM & libs when Charles nailed Dan Rather on the Natl Guard Memo.
That is actually when I heard of LGF.
One of their own was brought down. The lesson they learned was not ethics, but contempt for the whitsle blower.

52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:30:03am

re: #45 Ben Hur

Worst Campaign Idea Ever?


WTF?

"This is just a great opportunity for me to witness," he said, referring to his message and his Christian belief.

He also told WIMS radio in Michigan City that he didn't believe the event he attended included people necessarily of the Nazi mindset, pointing out the name isn't Nazi, but Nationalist Socialist Workers Party.

Epic Fail is Epic

53 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:30:10am

re: #50 itellu3times

Progressive!

54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:30:12am

Such an insignificant little blog. How do they even notice us?

55 Cartman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:30:45am

A little waffle on your face, Comrade Soros?

56 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:31:10am

re: #41 buzzsawmonkey

Are they for it?

57 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:31:12am

re: #44 wrenchwench

He has the bestest sources on everything!

Here is a picture of Glenn Greenwald's best sources / biggest fans.

/All strangely registered to the same email account originally registered by Glenn himself. Very strange.

58 chinesearithmetic  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:31:14am

The Left is, and always has been, a cancer in this country.

59 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:31:21am

re: #54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Such an insignificant little blog. How do they even notice us?

LGF is either too little or not green enough, I suspect, to escape their notice.

If we were big and red, they'd pay no attention.

60 mean Gene  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:31:34am

re: #46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Emily Letella, Gene.

I defer to you, I am no SDL fan.

61 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:32:30am

re: #38 opnion

He is using warblog in a pejoritive sense. The implication is that we are all war mongers.

I get that. I just figured I would take a little steam out of his slur by owning it in a more positive sense.

62 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:32:41am

Man, I must be off today.

I thought that my "Waterblogging" comment was damn good.

Get it?

Instead of waterboarding, waterBLOGGING?

Hello?

WTF is wrong with you people?!?!?!?

63 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:32:59am

re: #55 Cartman

A little waffle on your face, Comrade Soros?

BTW - you can bet that Soros is speculating on commodities right now, and feeding the "food shortage" scare. There's money to be made, you know.

64 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:33:03am

re: #60 mean Gene

I defer to you, I am no SDL fan.

Uh...I did that about two years ago, and someone corrected me. Heh.

Notice the contempt that I showed though? ACTING!

65 Cartman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:33:06am

re: #8 MandyManners

When will he deign to descend from Mt. Olympus? I gotta' be sure I'm not busy cleaning toilets.

LOL

66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:33:31am

re: #62 Ben Hur

YUK YUK.

67 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:33:56am

re: #62 Ben Hur

I got it.

68 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:34:01am

re: #20 jaunte

I don't think anyone has accused Hussein of killing anyone - only being in the presence of terrorists. He is a terrorists' shill, which is bad enough. He was likely arrested and detained under Article II, Sec. A or Article II, Sec. M. In either case, he's still got to keep a clean nose or else he'll be back in the slammer before long.

69 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:34:22am

The wheels are coming off the conservative movement....
Worst Campaign Idea Ever? (Via Hot Air Headlines)


Zirkle confirmed to The News-Dispatch on Monday he spoke Sunday in Chicago at a meeting of the Nationalist Socialist Workers Party, whose symbol is a swastika.

When asked if he was a Nazi or sympathized with Nazis or white supremacists, Zirkle replied he didn't know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it.

"This is just a great opportunity for me to witness," he said, referring to his message and his Christian belief.


Yes, He' a Republican.

70 Cartman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:34:25am

re: #63 karmic_inquisitor

BTW - you can bet that Soros is speculating on commodities right now, and feeding the "food shortage" scare. There's money to be made, you know.

The man would sell Obama's gramma up the river. No...wait...that's already been done...

71 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:34:40am

The Iraqi justice system worked as intended; that's progress. The anti-Americans are intolerant of real progress, like implementation of the Rule of Law.

72 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:35:08am

re: #62 Ben Hur


WTF is wrong with you people?!?!?!?

MINDLESS PEASANTS! Get back to your shanties

73 johnnyreb  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:35:22am

re: #63 karmic_inquisitor

BTW - you can bet that Soros is speculating on commodities right now, and feeding the "food shortage" scare. There's money to be made, you know.

I am thinking along the same lines myself. I suspect he was the one who started the ball rolling on bio-fuels also. He stands to make another couple of billion from that. All while we are burning up our food to put fake gas in our cars.

74 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:35:36am

re: #62 Ben Hur

Man, I must be off today.

I thought that my "Waterblogging" comment was damn good.

Get it?

Instead of waterboarding, waterBLOGGING?

Hello?

WTF is wrong with you people?!?!?!?

Heh - I got the same reaction when the DOD was accused of feeding the Gitmo detainees too much food and I called it Schmorgasboarding.

Tough room.

75 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:35:48am

re: #45 Ben Hur

Worst Campaign Idea Ever?


WTF?


The man's an idiot. I put a spinoff in yesterday. He's running in my district, too. Fortunately we haven't had the primary yet, so he won't make the general.

76 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:36:33am

re: #70 Cartman

The man would sell Obama's gramma up the river. No...wait...that's already been done...

Birds of a feather ...

77 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:36:40am

re: #75 zmdavid

There's evil afoot in conservative circles.

78 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:37:04am

re: #74 karmic_inquisitor

Heh - I got the same reaction when the DOD was accused of feeding the Gitmo detainees too much food and I called it Schmorgasboarding.

Tough room.

I did not see that. Had I seen that, I would have given it a hale and hearty LOL. Very good.

79 Cartman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:37:12am

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - Soros is among the top five most dangerous humans on the planet.

80 incanus  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:37:21am

re: #3 Diamond Bullet

My favorite is when the AP cites Reuters for its source. It reminds me of the card soldiers protecting the Red Queen.

Anyone else in the Twin Cities wondering what's up with all the Thomson Reuters ads on the radio?

81 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:37:33am

re: #68 lawhawk

That made me wonder how Iraqi law is presently defining a terrorist crime.

82 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:37:55am

re: #62 Ben Hur

Man, I must be off today.

I thought that my "Waterblogging" comment was damn good.

Get it?

Instead of waterboarding, waterBLOGGING?

Hello?

WTF is wrong with you people?!?!?!?

I'm high from the fumes while cleaning the toilets.

83 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:38:03am
84 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:38:07am

re: #45 Ben Hur

Worst Campaign Idea Ever?

WTF?

re: #69 Killgore Trout

The wheels are coming off the conservative movement....
Worst Campaign Idea Ever? (Via Hot Air Headlines)

Yes, He' a Republican.

Here's his site- he's really hung up on porn.

85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:38:28am

re: #77 Killgore Trout

There's evil afoot in conservative circles.

Evil under just about any rock you can turn over you just have to look. By the way; anybody seen my wee wee? Someones seems to have stolen it. If you find it under a rock, can you UPS it to me?

86 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:38:38am
87 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:39:12am

re: #84 Sharmuta

Here's his site- he's really hung up on porn.

Well, if I were more hung I'd be up for porn too.

/rimshot

88 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:39:13am

re: #65 Cartman

LOL

I made those germs respect mah authoritah right before I unleashed chemical warfare on them.

89 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:39:15am

re: #84 Sharmuta

PIMF- p0rn.

90 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:39:22am

re: #69 Killgore Trout

The wheels are coming off the conservative movement....
Worst Campaign Idea Ever? (Via Hot Air Headlines)

When asked if he was a Nazi or sympathized with Nazis or white supremacists, Zirkle replied he didn't know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it

.
Yes, He' a Republican.


He's a disgrace.

I'd actually have more respect for this clown if he simply said he was a big fan of Hitler. At least then he'd be intellectually honest.

As it is, either he's a Nazi-sympathizer but knows that admitting that would be political suicide, or alternatively he is the world's biggest ignoramus when it comes to history.

Either way, he's unfit to hold the office of dogcatcher, IMO.

91 chinesearithmetic  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:39:48am

I remember when Alger Hiss died and the New York Daily News reported in the obituary that he had been enoxerated, due to the testimony of, they didn't say, one very cooperative Russian dupe. Some of us really are bitter, but what we cling to are memories

92 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:40:06am

re: #74 karmic_inquisitor

Heh - I got the same reaction when the DOD was accused of feeding the Gitmo detainees too much food and I called it Schmorgasboarding.

Tough room.

Vegetarian schmorgasborading?

93 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:40:07am

re: #85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Check the Congo. They seem to have a mysterious surplus.

94 Dad O' Blondes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:40:38am

Meanwhile, Hollywood does it again...

"In his upcoming biography of Jesus, "Basic Instinct" director Paul Verhoeven will make the shocking claim that Christ probably was the son of Mary and a Roman soldier who raped her during the Jewish uprising in Galilee, according to the Hollywood Reporter.

Catholic League President Bill Donohue called Verhoeven's claim "laughable."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

.

95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:41:00am

Hey! Anybody in the Congo? Anybody?

96 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:41:08am

re: #79 Cartman

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - Soros is among the top five most dangerous humans on the planet.

I'd say he's the most dangerous since he has no one to answer to other than himself.

97 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:41:23am

re: #84 Sharmuta

That may be a first: a politician actively soliciting a complete set of Penthouse magazines.

98 Eowyn2  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:41:31am

re: #10 Genosaurer

Why should the truth get in the way of a good story?

/

Once upon a time, in a land far far away, there lived a little prince photographer/reporter/iranian. One day some evil mens came and took him away. They held him in the dankest dungeon until his true employer freed him....

99 Cartman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:41:41am

re: #96 MandyManners

I'd say he's the most dangerous since he has no one to answer to other than himself.

Great point.

100 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:41:57am
101 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:41:58am

re: #86 buzzsawmonkey

Like wow, man. That's some good sh*t.

Just got done eating peanut butter and jelly on a bagel. Munchies are a bitch.

102 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:42:13am

re: #94 Dad O' Blondes

Meanwhile, Hollywood does it again...

"In his upcoming biography of Jesus, "Basic Instinct" director Paul Verhoeven will make the shocking claim that Christ probably was the son of Mary and a Roman soldier who raped her during the Jewish uprising in Galilee, according to the Hollywood Reporter.

Catholic League President Bill Donohue called Verhoeven's claim "laughable."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

.

Will he be black and grow up living in Palestine as well?

103 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:42:31am

re: #73 johnnyreb

I am thinking along the same lines myself. I suspect he was the one who started the ball rolling on bio-fuels also. He stands to make another couple of billion from that. All while we are burning up our food to put fake gas in our cars.

People have yet to catch on that Soros is and only is a speculator and that he is good at it. political whores are glad for his sponsorship and don't realize what the guy does via all of his hedge funds.

Efforts at regulating hedge funds (which needs to happen because of the distortions they create and then exploit) never get anywhere.

And when Obama justified his "capital gains tax increase" with a hedge fund story, that was a hoot. Hedge funds rarely hold qualifying assets and when they do they rarely hold them long enough to qualify for the long term capital gains rate. Obama and Clinton (along with Pelosi and Reid) know to stay away from regulating hedge funds because Soros bankrolls the new left. It has nothing to do with Soros' politics - it has to do with making the biggest killing he can.

104 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:42:39am

re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey! Anybody in the Congo? Anybody?

Only the dickless wonders.

105 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:43:00am

re: #75 zmdavid

The man's an idiot. I put a spinoff in yesterday. He's running in my district, too. Fortunately we haven't had the primary yet, so he won't make the general.


He would love your avatar.

JUST KIDDING!

106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:43:02am

re: #102 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Will he be black and grow up living in Palestine as well?

Nah. He'll be growing up in Kansas.

107 3 wood  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:43:06am

re: #88 MandyManners

I made those germs respect mah authoritah right before I unleashed chemical warfare on them.

So far no Cognito to entertain us with his navel gazing and arrogance.

He must be busy associating with terrorists.

108 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:43:10am

re: #99 Cartman

Great point.

Wonder if the jerk sleeps well.

109 Cartman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:43:14am

Soros trades in human commodities and futures.

110 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:43:49am

re: #74 karmic_inquisitor

Now THAT was effen funny!

111 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:43:50am

re: #107 3 wood

So far no Cognito to entertain us with his navel gazing and arrogance.

He must be busy associating with terrorists.

*rimshot*

112 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:44:06am

seems to me that this is yet another piece of ammo (in a long line) that the 'left' continues to hand us this election season..hopefully, repub strategerists and admakers will coordinate all of this into a series of media related counter-attacks for the fall that will help to not only de-legitimize mediamatters and soros,but the eventual dem nominee..I'm beginning to think that Sen.McCain will win the presidency,and in such an overwhelming fashion that he may well be able to choose a running mate as 'controversial' as John Bolton..after all, Bolton is a streetfightin'man,just what the good senator will need,not only during the campaign but after,when the fun really begins..

113 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:44:53am

re: #94 Dad O' Blondes

Meanwhile, Hollywood does it again...

"In his upcoming biography of Jesus, "Basic Instinct" director Paul Verhoeven will make the shocking claim that Christ probably was the son of Mary and a Roman soldier who raped her during the Jewish uprising in Galilee, according to the Hollywood Reporter.

Catholic League President Bill Donohue called Verhoeven's claim "laughable."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

.


Maybe so, but is it any more laughable than the Catholic's working theory?

Unfortunately, the knee-jerk response of religious outrage makes for good marketing for the film-makers. If this film is anywhere on the level of Verhoeven's other ones (Basic Instinct, Robocop, Total Recall, etc), its probably better to just ignore the whole mess.

114 tfc3rid  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:45:05am

The folks at Media Matters, the Hillary campaign and the Obama campaign, the whole 'mainstream movement' of the Democrat-Liberal Party is fully owned and operated by Goerge Soros and his minions... He is a very dangerous man and must be stopped at all costs... I can not understand why people only want to hurt the United States and lead her people down a path that can only lead to darkness...

These people have global domination in mind and they will stop at nothing to accomplish what they set out to do... Kind of like the Islamists...

115 Eowyn2  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:45:18am

re: #19 lawhawk

That's not even flak. That's poor reading comprehension and the need to post something, anything, regardless of how stupid it will make one appear.

Indeed, after Charles posted that he wasn't familiar with the new law and whether it was applicable, I used by Google-fu and found the appropriate links to news sources showing the story. Charles updated minutes later. Funny how that works - Army of Davids and all that to get the facts straight.

Too bad Eric Boehlert couldn't do the same. If he had, of course, we wouldn't have a post bashing his poor reading comprehension and lack of Google-fu.

or a lack of common sense.

116 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:45:20am

re: #94 Dad O' Blondes


I've actually heard that theory before.

117 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:45:46am

re: #97 jaunte

That may be a first: a politician actively soliciting a complete set of Penthouse magazines.

You don't understand, its for "research" purposes.

He also needs one of each bottle of personal lubricant on the market, for the same project.

118 MacGregor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:45:47am

From a Danish associate

'We in Denmark cannot figure out why you are even bothering to hold an election.

On one side, you have a bitch who is a lawyer, married to a lawyer, and a lawyer who is married to a bitch who is a lawyer.

On the other side, you have a true war hero married to a woman with a huge chest who owns a beer distributorship.

Is there a contest here?'

119 Eowyn2  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:46:18am

re: #100 buzzsawmonkey

Given that there was no "Jewish uprising" in Judea until about 30 years after Jesus' death, that would be a neat trick indeed.

maybe he is confused with the Jewish uprising led by Moses?

120 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:46:39am

Looking at past history Boehlert's so heavily invested in losing the Iraq war that he almost has to do this. He's also pimped Abu Ghraib heavy, attacked Bob Woodward when he thought he was going to blow Plamegate, defended Sami Al Arian, etc. etc. etc.

121 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:46:52am

Gotta' go see my dealer to Wal*Mart to to score buy more chemicals cleaning stuff.

122 Eowyn2  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:47:16am

re: #118 MacGregor

From a Danish associate

'We in Denmark cannot figure out why you are even bothering to hold an election.

On one side, you have a bitch who is a lawyer, married to a lawyer, and a lawyer who is married to a bitch who is a lawyer.

On the other side, you have a true war hero married to a woman with a huge chest who owns a beer distributorship.

Is there a contest here?'


not really

123 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:47:31am

re: #120 Thanos

Anything about 'the fierce Afghan winter?'

124 incanus  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:47:32am

re: #62 Ben Hur

Man, I must be off today.

I thought that my "Waterblogging" comment was damn good.

Get it?

Instead of waterboarding, waterBLOGGING?

Hello?

WTF is wrong with you people?!?!?!?

I LOLed IRL.

125 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:47:33am

re: #69 Killgore Trout

You think Fred Phelps is a Democrat, Kilgore? Your Logic-streching capabilities know no bounds.

126 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:47:57am

re: #77 Killgore Trout

There's evil afoot in conservative circles.


there has ALWAYS been evil afoot in conservative circles..they will continue to be discredited as part of the effort (by Charles and others) to pick our allies,here and in europe,well..

127 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:48:04am

re: #104 MandyManners

Only the dickless wonders.

Love this Ghostbusters exchange...

Dr Ray Stantz: Everything was fine with our system until the power grid was shut off by dickless here.
Walter Peck: They caused an explosion!
Mayor: Is this true?
Dr. Peter Venkman: Yes it's true.
[pause]
Dr. Peter Venkman: This man has no dick.

128 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:48:05am

re: #121 MandyManners

Gotta' go see my dealer to Wal*Mart to to score buy more chemicals cleaning stuff.

I find the vision of you on all fours cleaning a toilet strangely erotic.

129 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:48:24am
130 Fo knee ix  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:48:55am

re: #118 MacGregor

Funniest thing I've heard all day. Tough competition compared to this.

131 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:50:20am

re: #117 looking closely

You don't understand, its for "research" purposes.

He also needs one of each bottle of personal lubricant on the market, for the same project.

Bingo!

132 Eowyn2  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:50:54am

re: #62 Ben Hur


I missed the whole damn thing.

133 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:50:59am
Where were the facts that proved that Iraqi judges, in an extraordinarily high-profile case against a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, and in a case the U.S. military was heavily invested in, never examined the evidence presented against Hussein and simply allowed him to walk free regardless of his guilt or innocence?

Sweet Jebus. That's like arguing with a 12 year old.

Got any other straw men, Eric?

134 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:51:01am

More slippery politicians.

135 debutaunt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:51:14am

re: #128 Ben Hur

I find the vision of you on all fours cleaning a toilet strangely erotic.

CloroxPorning.

136 MacGregor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:51:21am

re: #130 Fo knee ix

Hah! that's a good'n.

137 chinesearithmetic  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:52:28am

We're on to you, Senator Obama, and your Hungarian pimp too.

138 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:52:49am

re: #125 Cap'n DOC

You think Fred Phelps is a Democrat, Kilgore? Your Logic-streching capabilities know no bounds.

I think he's a democrat.

Phelps has run in various Kansas Democratic Party primaries five times, but has never won. These included races for governor in 1990, 1994, and 1998, receiving about 15% of the vote in 1998.[37] In the 1992 Democratic Party primary for U.S. Senate, Phelps received 31% of the vote [38] Phelps ran for mayor of Topeka in 1993 [39] and 1997. [40]

...

Phelps supported Al Gore in the 1988 Democratic Party primary election.[41] In his 1984 Senate race, Gore opposed a "gay bill of rights" and stated that homosexuality was not something that "society should affirm".[42] Phelps has stated that he supported Gore because of these earlier comments.[43] According to Phelps, members of the Westboro Baptist Church helped run Gore's 1988 campaign in Kansas. Phelps' son, Fred Phelps Jr., hosted a Gore fundraiser, which Al and Tipper Gore attended, at his home in Topeka.[10][43] Fred Phelps, Jr. served as a Gore delegate to the 1988 Democratic National Convention.[43][44] Gore spokesman Dag Vega declined to comment; "We are not dignifying those stories with a response."[45]

link

139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:54:03am

re: #128 Ben Hur

I find the vision of you on all fours cleaning a toilet strangely erotic.

Get your best Barry White voice and say that again. Might just work.

140 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:54:22am

re: #138 Silhouette

Well, I'll be damned... :o)

141 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:54:31am

re: #113 looking closely

Maybe so, but is it any more laughable than the Catholic's working theory?

Unfortunately, the knee-jerk response of religious outrage makes for good marketing for the film-makers. If this film is anywhere on the level of Verhoeven's other ones (Basic Instinct, Robocop, Total Recall, etc), its probably better to just ignore the whole mess.

Is it possible this whole Roman soldier thing is a red herring designed to raise a ruckus?

142 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:54:35am

re: #126 joecitizen

there has ALWAYS been evil afoot in conservative circles..they will continue to be discredited as part of the effort (by Charles and others) to pick our allies,here and in europe,well..

What a pity that "mainstream" liberalism isn't as eager to discredit it's own scum.

143 Dad O' Blondes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:55:05am

re: #113 looking closely

Maybe so, but is it any more laughable than the Catholic's working theory?

Unfortunately, the knee-jerk response of religious outrage makes for good marketing for the film-makers. If this film is anywhere on the level of Verhoeven's other ones (Basic Instinct, Robocop, Total Recall, etc), its probably better to just ignore the whole mess.

Cheap shotting Catholics is losing currency.

If this all star film director had any brass he'd do a film about The Prophet's pedophilia and child sexual abuse, and let the fatwas fly.

.

144 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:55:07am

re: #77 Killgore Trout

There's evil afoot in conservative circles.

Show us that Nazi-sympathizing Republicans represent some sort of growing trend (and not just this one asshole), and you'll have an argument.

Until then... the only people I've seen screaming for the mass murder of Jews here in DC have been marching under "International ANSWER" banners.

145 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:55:33am

re: #128 Ben Hur

I find the vision of you on all fours cleaning a toilet strangely erotic.

:O

146 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:56:27am
147 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:56:30am

re: #142 wolfie

What a pity that "mainstream" liberalism isn't as eager to discredit it's own scum.

indeed, and it may well lead to the complete marginilization of the democratic party for decades,perhaps forever..

148 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:57:00am

re: #125 Cap'n DOC

You think Fred Phelps is a Democrat, Kilgore? Your Logic-streching capabilities know no bounds.

He is, that's been proven. What I suspect, though it's not been proven, is that he's also a meth addict with a confused sexuality.

149 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:57:50am

re: #128 Ben Hur

I find the vision of you on all fours cleaning a toilet strangely erotic.

I think I just figured out who is Hugo Chavez.

BBL.

150 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:58:01am

From the Boehlert worldview Chrissy Matthews is too conservative...

151 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:58:04am

The world could use a little more "Jewish uprising" these days, if ya ask me.

152 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:58:35am

re: #144 Occasional Reader

The GOP can and must cast this guy out of the party, just as they've done with other bigots (david duke comes to mind). This isn't exactly a trend, unless we're redefining trends to be one instance.

Of course, if you go far enough around the bend, you come out the other side.

National Socialist Workers Party should be the dead give away.

153 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:59:52am

re: #69 Killgore Trout

Take note of who has the last comment under that article?

Why it's "Commander" Bill White.

NO
VACANCY
ASYLUM,
R

154 yochanan  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 11:59:56am

Police investigating charred South Florida synagogue

Related Links
Video: Police investigating charred synagogue
MIAMI BEACH, Fla. (WSVN) -- Police are investigating the scene of a South Florida synagogue vandalized and destroyed.

Hundreds of worshippers are without a place of worship after someone set fire to Chabad of Miami Beach located near 24th and Pine Tree.

The Rabbi from the synagogue said the main Bible of the congregation was taken. "Beautiful prayer books that have so many special prayers in it, now they are all gone and all burnt," said Rabbi Zeb Katz. "Our prayer shawl was burnt to the ground."

The mayor of Miami Beach said these horrible acts will not be tolerated. "I was just going to ask him if anybody could have come and saved the torah or something," said Miami Beach Mayor Matti Bower. "I'm always an optimist because these are hateful crimes that we can't tolerate here."

155 Cartman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:00:17pm

re: #150 Thanos

From the Boehlert worldview Chrissy Matthews is too conservative...

Speaking of Chrissy, I'm guessing the PA primary probably took a little of that tingle out of his leg. Heh.

156 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:00:44pm

Eric is Gramscian whore... he hates clear channel, Steve Emerson...

Charles you are in Great company if he's attacking you.

157 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:00:49pm

re: #149 MandyManners

I think I just figured out who is Hugo Chavez.

BBL.

By cleaning the toilet ?!

158 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:01:00pm

re: #154 yochanan

Though we have absolutely NO information right now, we can tell you that this is not a hate crime or terror related.

/FBI

159 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:01:04pm

As to the question of whether Balil Hussein was in cahoots with our enemies; well, one look at his photographs would indicate that either he was, or he has the ability to become invisable...

See here...

And here...

and here...

They even seem to be posing for him here.

160 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:01:22pm
161 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:01:27pm
When asked if he was a Nazi or sympathized with Nazis or white supremacists, Zirkle replied he didn't know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it.

Yeah, the whole history of those "Nazi" guys is a pretty obscure subject.

/

162 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:01:45pm

re: #154 yochanan

The Rabbi from the synagogue said the main Bible of the congregation was taken.

Misquote from the reporter?

163 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:02:10pm

re: #143 Dad O' Blondes

Cheap shotting Catholics is losing currency.

If this all star film director had any brass he'd do a film about The Prophet's pedophilia and child sexual abuse, and let the fatwas fly.

.

He *is* Dutch, though I wouldn't bet on this.

164 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:02:28pm

Speaking of journalists - looks like China is going to try to kill some journalists.

I wish them well.

/intentionally vague

165 RememberSekhmet?  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:03:16pm

re: #20 jaunte

A relevant passage from the law:

The following (individuals) are excepted from of the provision of Article 1 of this law:
.....
B. Terrorist crimes, if they caused a death or permanent disability.

Article 4
If any individual who received amnesty in accordance with the provision of this commits a premeditated crime from the crimes mentioned in Article 2 of this law within five years from the date of amnesty, the penalties for the crime for which he received amnesty will be implemented, and punitive procedures will be taken against him even if the individual received amnesty while he is in a trial or in the investigating stage.

Which just means that some time in the future when he is caught with his pants down again, and the book gets thrown at him, there will be even more wailing about the punishment supposedly not fitting the crime.

166 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:03:26pm

ManU vs Barcelona live on my computer!

I love the internet

167 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:03:49pm

re: #152 lawhawk

Yup. And notice that the only place the exiled Duke can get an audience these days is with the darlings of the extreme left. Coming out the other side, indeed.

168 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:04:52pm

re: #153 Render

Take note of who has the last comment under that article?

Why it's "Commander" Bill White.

NO
VACANCY
ASYLUM,
R


Republicans need to slingshot that shit right out of the party now.

169 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:05:19pm

Charles, I am unable to post to the upstairs thread. And yes, I've tried refreshing the page.

170 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:05:20pm

re: #158 Ben Hur

Though we have absolutely NO information right now, we can tell you that this is not a hate crime or terror related.

/FBI

Please tell me that was sarcatic.
Please tell me they didn't say that!

171 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:05:26pm
172 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:06:13pm

re: #171 buzzsawmonkey

Weird glitch: when I try to go to the next thread, it sends me to the main front page.

No comments possible.

Yeah, I get the same glitch as well.

173 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:06:48pm

Me too.

174 mean Gene  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:06:53pm

re: #74 karmic_inquisitor

Heh - I got the same reaction when the DOD was accused of feeding the Gitmo detainees too much food and I called it Schmorgasboarding.

Tough room.

I just sent this to my friends.
The laugh ripples are now disturbing the force.

175 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:06:54pm

Charles is deliberately preventing us from criticizing a Nazi! AIIIIEEEEEE!

/

176 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:07:07pm

re: #172 Honorary Yooper

Yeah, I get the same glitch as well.

Same here

177 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:07:19pm

re: #171 buzzsawmonkey


Buzz, are you power point capable?

I took advantage of your words from yesterday.

I can email it to you.

178 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:07:31pm

re: #164 karmic_inquisitor

BTW - I wonder how the Chinese plan to keep the torch lit at the summit. It isn't like there is a whole lot of oxygen up there.

179 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:07:32pm
180 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:07:46pm

re: #171 buzzsawmonkey

Yep, seems to be the same problem here, even after a refresh... but remember the old saying... "That's not a bug, that's a FEATURE!"

181 Zach_the_Lizard  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:08:00pm

I needs me some fried Jew haters, and Ah needs it now.
Move, glitch, get out the way.

182 crazytraveler  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:09:00pm

re: #171 buzzsawmonkey

Weird glitch: when I try to go to the next thread, it sends me to the main front page.

No comments possible.

Same here. I guess my witty nazi comments will go unnoticed!

183 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:09:13pm

re: #181 Zach_the_Lizard

I needs me some fried Jew haters, and Ah needs it now.
Move, glitch, get out the way.

Can't you just finish your waffle?

184 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:09:29pm
185 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:09:37pm
He also told WIMS radio in Michigan City that he didn’t believe the event he attended included people necessarily of the Nazi mindset, pointing out the name isn’t Nazi, but Nationalist Socialist Workers Party.

I think it is entirely possible this is just the stupidest man alive.

186 Zach_the_Lizard  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:09:55pm

re: #183 wolfie

I would finish it if you would just let me.

187 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:10:55pm

I was able to get to the article page (click on the article title) but it says "no comments" at the bottom, and clicking on that brings me back to the first page.

Well, we could criticize it here, like how he lumps neo-Nazis, Black Panthers, and Jewish Zionists in the same bag.

188 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:11:15pm
“That’s the risk you have to take to get your point across,” Zirkle said. “If the Black Panthers or the Jewish Zionists want me to speak about these issues, I’ll do it.”

Oh yeah, Black Panters, Nazis, Jewish Zionists...same thing.

ARRRRRGGGH!

I hope this guy gets so few votes, they have to post negatives on the board.

189 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:11:44pm

re: #184 buzzsawmonkey

easier for you I guess, just email it to formercorpsman@yahoo.com, I'll bounce it back to you if that works better.

190 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:13:18pm
191 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:14:39pm

re: #185 Silhouette

I think it is entirely possible this is just the stupidest man alive.

I hate Nazisti dell'Illinois

192 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:17:51pm

re: #190 buzzsawmonkey

Sent.

193 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:19:22pm

re: #190 buzzsawmonkey

I ran it as a slide show on my system.

194 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:19:43pm

re: #141 NomadOfNorad

Is it possible this whole Roman soldier thing is a red herring designed to raise a ruckus?

/nah. . . .

Seriously, Verhoeven actually is a member of the "Jesus Seminar" a group of PhDs (Verheoven's is in mathematics), so he does have some personal interest in this.

In other words, although its probably self-evident that the auteur of "Basic Instinct" knows that this depiction of Jesus will be provocative, its probably fair to say that he motives here probably aren't

entirely

mercenary. He might actually believe it.

195 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:33:16pm

re: #194 looking closely

[Follows the link...]

Yuck!

196 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:40:41pm
197 MrArchieBunker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:48:46pm

The esteemed Mr. Boehlert was a major shill for Sami Al-Arian.... [Link: www.google.com...]

198 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:02:34pm
199 Is it me?  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:03:15pm

#118 MacGregor
LMAO, hysterical!
Put like that there is no contest at all.
Toss out the lawyers
Head straight for the beer! McCain wins.

Ben Hur
Stop the panic - I understood the reference - and it made me laugh.

So did the smorgasboarding.

I'm still laughing at the missing Mr Chubbies from the other thread...
re the Congo (even if it so wrong in so many ways...)

It's been a funny old evening on LGF.

200 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:13:21pm

Eric, in case you're reading, fuck you.

201 Orbit Rain  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:35:31pm

...liars lie, and "Media Matters" is one of the liars...

202 wanumba  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:35:50pm

"... so I went back and looked at what LGF had wrote..."

He need to verify something important so he goes to LGF
(Charles the big J. himself) to fact-check.

He writes that LGF don't KNOW no no nothin', but his actions are LGF DOES KNOW yes yes yes, it's the SOURCE, man!
If LGF wasn't important, his editors wouldn't be making him do all this.

Sweet!

203 marsouin  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:42:58pm

Thank you Mr. Johnson for all your great work. LGF doesn't have the Soros' billions for support, but we're bringing the game on their side of the court!

A True Whig

204 Grammie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:45:06pm

Anyone, what do these icons in the right hand corner of the comments -, +, 0, heart signify re what and where does any tabulation appear?

Dittos for the icons at the end of the article that has a number on top and below -/+.

Thanks.

205 Cognito  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:48:48pm

re: #107 3 wood

So far no Cognito to entertain us with his navel gazing and arrogance.

He must be busy associating with terrorists.

1) I've never 'associated' with terrorists.
2) I haven't the fainted clue where you are, so I don't speculate on it. You might do the same.

206 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:07:04pm

If your report about the amnesty law “comes directly from none other than the Associated Press” then he’s right, you didn’t cite a credible news account.

207 debutaunt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:13:44pm

re: #204 Grammie

Anyone, what do these icons in the right hand corner of the comments -, +, 0, heart signify re what and where does any tabulation appear?

Dittos for the icons at the end of the article that has a number on top and below -/+.

Thanks.

If you click the - it will be saved and show as a negative.
If you click the + it will be saved and show as a positive.
They show your attitude about each particular comment.
If you click the heart, it will save the comment to your file.

208 Grammie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:34:59pm

Debutaunt, thanks. So the current green 39 at the end of the article indicates how many people think it is above average?

Where are the clicks on the - and + saved to and/or displayed?

Sorry to be such a pain but I did look at FAQs and learned a great deal about LGF just not this.

Again, thanks very much.

209 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:46:07pm

re: #208 Grammie
Click on the number "the green 39" and it shows a list of all users who plussed and minused it. 39 is a count of the plusses - a count of the minuses.

210 PloniAlmoni  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:11:15pm

Haha, Media Matters got completely owned.

211 markie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:55:16pm

Warblogger? Man, am I behind the loop. Anyone got a couple spare mags and a brain bucket I can borrow?

212 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 6:44:00pm

re: #196 buzzsawmonkey

Hey Buzz, sorry about the sound.

I have always liked the idea of being able to create this kind of visual comedy, but my talents are minimal.

I think I'm going to try and find another type of audio file, and create it in movie maker.

Did the picture graphics work for you?

213 Yankee Sojourner  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:00:43pm

Boehlert links what he calls a "thorough" AJR article by Charles Layton titled Behind Bars, in which Layton writes:

"...As a native, Hussein knew the place well. He was able to show the reporter insurgent military preparations and to help him line up interviews. Hardly any western news organizations had journalists inside the city, and since it was about to become a major battleground, the AP suggested that Hussein, with his excellent access, might want to take some pictures..." It brought him to the wire service's Baghdad office, gave him a digital camera, taught him how to use it and explained what kind of pictures the AP was interested in. Hussein also received some instruction in basic journalistic practices and ethics."

THIS IS NOTHING BUT A FANCY WAY OF SAYING THE AP WENT OUT OF ITS WAY TO EMBED A FOREIGN NATIONAL OF QUESTIONABLE ALLEGIANCES WITH TERRORISTS.

Boehlert, I have a couple questions for you: You write, "On the morning of April 12 U.S. Marines showed up at Hussein's door in Ramadi..." But why didn't you tell your readers that also behind this door were a couple of Hussein's al Qaeda buds and a cache of weapons and bomb making materials? Also, why did the AP remain silent on Bilal Hussein's capture, only commenting on the matter and coming to Hussein's defense after conservative bloggers unearthed the story?

Perhaps the AP should have spent less time on use of a digital camera and more time on journalistic ethics. No matter Boehlert, you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the ass and evidently the memo on ethics never crossed your desk either.

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." -- -- Mark Twain

214 GeoffP  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:50:59pm

"Media Spatters"

As in, like loosely packed dung.

215 gymnast  Fri, Apr 25, 2008 9:50:33pm

Test


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