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Congressional Candidate Speaks to Nazis on Hitler's Birthday

Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:02:39 pm PDT

Absolutely disgusting. Who let this Neanderthal into the Republican Party? Worst Campaign Idea Ever?

CROWN POINT, Ind. - If fans of Hitler held a party, and a candidate for federal office attended, would anybody notice?

Apparently, yes.

U.S. Congressional candidate Tony Zirkle is facing criticism from one of his primary opponents, and a host of people on the Internet, for speaking at an event over the weekend that celebrated Adolf Hitler’s birthday.

Zirkle confirmed to The News-Dispatch on Monday he spoke Sunday in Chicago at a meeting of the Nationalist Socialist Workers Party, whose symbol is a swastika.

When asked if he was a Nazi or sympathized with Nazis or white supremacists, Zirkle replied he didn’t know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it. “This is just a great opportunity for me to witness,” he said, referring to his message and his Christian belief.

He also told WIMS radio in Michigan City that he didn’t believe the event he attended included people necessarily of the Nazi mindset, pointing out the name isn’t Nazi, but Nationalist Socialist Workers Party.

The Crown Point Republican spoke in front of about 56 “white activists” at an event honoring the birth of Hitler. The German leader was responsible for the genocide of millions of Jews and others during World War II.

Zirkle said the group asked him to speak to discuss the effect of pornography and prostitution on young, white women and girls. ...

When asked if meeting with Nazis was a danger to his political career, Zirkle said he was willing to take the chance.

“That’s the risk you have to take to get your point across,” Zirkle said. “If the Black Panthers or the Jewish Zionists want me to speak about these issues, I’ll do it.”

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1 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:08:01pm

What an idiot.

2 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:08:29pm

Good, glitch gone. Thanks, Charles.

3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:08:36pm

Tony, that little flashing light you see is your "career is over" light kicking into overdrive

4 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:08:41pm

Who added the heaping tablespoon of "stupid" to this guy's coffee?

5 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:08:43pm

Typical Nazis.

6 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:08:50pm

THE BEACHEAD IS OPEN! I REPEAT, DOG BEACH IS OPEN!

7 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:08:52pm

LGF is getting flaky again. Not nearly as flaky as Zirkle.

8 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:08:54pm

I have some friends in Crown Point. I doubt they'd be voting for him anyway.

9 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:09:00pm

Well, that's a lost seat.

10 bulwrk  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:09:24pm

I hate Indiana Nazis.

11 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:09:59pm

I wonder if he will be getting that Amadinejad endorsement?

12 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:10:02pm
He also told WIMS radio in Michigan City that he didn’t believe the event he attended included people necessarily of the Nazi mindset, pointing out the name isn’t Nazi, but Nationalist Socialist Workers Party.


Rrrriiight, and the giant Hitler portrait and swastika flags... well, his back is to them in the photo, so he probably just never saw them.

13 Diamond Bullet  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:10:23pm

I like how he also threw "Jewish Zionists" into the mix at the end there.

Stay classy, Zirkle

14 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:10:52pm
15 Zach_the_Lizard  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:10:55pm

Finally, a nice, new thread to terrorize.

LET OPERATION OVERLORD COMMENCE

16 crazytraveler  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:11:09pm

These campaign photos are priceless. And by priceless, I mean career-ending.

17 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:11:18pm
18 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:11:22pm
Zirkle said the group asked him to speak to discuss the effect of pornography and prostitution on young, white women and girls. ...

Huh?

19 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:11:25pm

What part of "Socialist Worker's Party" does he not get?

This turd needs to be slingshotted out of the party.

/bet he knows Kyle Bristow too...

20 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:11:35pm

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> >
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21 christheprofessor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:11:43pm

Great. Now whenever the moonbats call us Nazis, they'll dredge up this asshole's picture...

22 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:12:02pm

Never heard of Tony Zirkle before.

The Republican Party should give him the boot ASAP.

23 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:12:15pm

he's giving stupid a bad name

and of course the "witnessing" smears the evangelicals.

yeah , he's shat on everything

24 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:12:21pm

I think Crown Point is in the 1st district, he's running in the 2nd. I could be wrong, the 2nd has an odd shape to it. The Nazis he spoke to are in Illinois, not Indiana where he is running. Fortunately he has a primary opponent, who I know nothing about, but will now vote for.

25 crazytraveler  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:12:29pm
26 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:12:43pm
Who let this Neanderthal into the Republican Party?

Interesting question. How does one get "credentialed", so to speak, as a Republican candidate? Honest question - I have no idea.

In any event, the party really needs to revoke his membership and take away his decoder ring, yesterday.

27 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:12:44pm

Difference between the GOP and the Democrats is we'll actually boot this asshole.

28 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:12:45pm

The Republican Party needs to disown him NOW.
Kick him out.

How do parties do that, BTW? Is there some kind of procedure or what?

29 3 wood  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:13:30pm
When asked if he was a Nazi or sympathized with Nazis or white supremacists, Zirkle replied he didn’t know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it.

You are an absolute idiot, Zirkle.

How can you be that stupid and still have enough brain wave activity to breath?

30 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:13:42pm

The gene pool needs more chlorine! STAT!

/Dear God in Heaven, what a moron!

31 Cartman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:13:55pm

Tony Zirkle will be hosting a waffle breakfast on Thursday, April 24th for the Black Panthers and the Jewish Zionists, to entertain feedback and participate in a short question-and-answer session following the waffles.

/

32 mean Gene  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:13:55pm

re: #13 Diamond Bullet

I like how he also threw "Jewish Zionists" into the mix at the end there.

Stay classy, Zirkle


“That’s the risk you have to take to get your point across,” Zirkle said. “If the Black Panthers or the Jewish Zionists want me to speak about these issues*, I’ll do it.”

*to discuss the effect of pornography and prostitution on young, white women and girls. ...

Yeah, that'll happen.

33 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:14:23pm

re: #27 JammieWearingFool

Difference between the GOP and the Democrats is we'll actually boot this asshole.

Effen A.

THe left's polar equivalent of this guy isn't hiding and feels no reason to.

34 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:14:33pm
“That’s the risk you have to take to get your point across,” Zirkle said. “If the Black Panthers or the Jewish Zionists want me to speak about these issues, I’ll do it.”

So he doesn't see much difference between Jewish Zionists (what about Christian ones?), Black Panthers, and Neo-Nazis?

Asshat.

35 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:14:40pm

Considering he was speaking to a Democrat constituency, it makes even less sense to appear there.

36 jaunte  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:14:40pm

Who said it:
"I'm keeping my promise. I'll speak to any group."

37 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:14:47pm
38 Zach_the_Lizard  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:14:52pm

re: #30 Grammy Cracker

The gene pool needs more chlorine! STAT!

/Dear God in Heaven, what a moron!

But, but, chlorine is bad for the environment! Think of all the poor little defenseless bacteria you are killing!

39 Hillbilly Geek  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:14:54pm

abysmal stupidity. Words fail me. Product of our educational system.

40 winston06  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:15:01pm

Sounds like a clueless moron to me... But hopefully he won't be elected

41 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:15:01pm

re: #28 wolfie

The Republican Party needs to disown him NOW.
Kick him out.

How do parties do that, BTW? Is there some kind of procedure or what?

can his own constituents demand a recall or a censure or something?

/ a sternly worded letter?

42 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:15:02pm
43 sonoffar  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:15:40pm

Let's not forget that, "white activists", vote too.

44 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:15:41pm

re: #32 mean Gene

“That’s the risk you have to take to get your point across,” Zirkle said. “If the Black Panthers or the Jewish Zionists want me to speak about these issues*, I’ll do it.”

*to discuss the effect of pornography and prostitution on young, white women and girls. ...

Yeah, that'll happen.


Sure it will.

"You Jew types gotta stop using the Black folk fer selling our White women!"

45 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:15:43pm
46 Hillbilly Geek  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:15:50pm

Are we sure he's not a closet Democrat?

47 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:16:00pm

Local stories

[Link: www.wsbt.com...]
[Link: www.wndu.com...]

48 doppelganglander  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:16:06pm

He would have been better off celebrating 420 day.

49 latitude51  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:16:06pm

Does Charles ever lend out the banning stick? Some folks out in Indiana are just wondering.

50 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:16:23pm

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

"Nazism or National Socialism..."

How the fuck did this guy get through law school?

RE
DICK
LESS,
R

51 Sgt.Slappy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:16:24pm

Madness... Disgusting.

“This is just a great opportunity for me to witness,” he said, referring to his message and his Christian belief."

Bah.

*spit*

52 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:16:29pm

re: #43 sonoffar

Let's not forget that, "white activists", vote too.

Are you being sarcastic? I hope?

53 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:16:40pm

Hey, we live in a multi-cultural world.

These people think this is their culture.

No more melting pot.

I'm surprised it's not a sub-group on a candidates website.

54 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:16:53pm

re: #32 mean Gene

“That’s the risk you have to take to get your point across,” Zirkle said. “If the Black Panthers or the Jewish Zionists want me to speak about these issues*, I’ll do it.”

*to discuss the effect of pornography and prostitution on young, white women and girls. ...

Yeah, that'll happen.

what ? sounds more like a pseudo rationale for a meeting of people who actually want to hear the juicy details

55 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:16:58pm

Check out his campaign website, y'all.

56 nikis-knight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:17:30pm
Zirkle replied he didn’t know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it. “This is just a great opportunity for me to witness,” he said, referring to his message and his Christian belief.

WTF? Man, I really want to cuss this loser out.

57 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:17:32pm
Who let this Neanderthal into the Republican Party?

Ron Paul?

58 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:17:32pm

This is who the left (Kos et al) think WE are.

59 christheprofessor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:17:54pm

Gimme a D... D!
Gimme a U... U!
Gimme an M... M!
Gimme a B... B!
Gimme an A... A!
Gimme an S... S!
Gimme another S... S!

What's that spell!? Zirkle!

60 DownRightMeanAmerican  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:17:58pm

This is who Obama and Hillary cant wait to abandon!
I guess she just not worth the cost.

61 mph[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:18:08pm
62 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:18:44pm

Here's his website...He's been nice enough to provide, not only an email address, but also a phone number (scroll down to his photo).

63 GeorgetownPress  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:19:06pm

Also, particularly stupid

He also told WIMS radio in Michigan City that he didn’t believe the event he attended included people necessarily of the Nazi mindset, pointing out the name isn’t Nazi, but Nationalist Socialist Workers Party.

Of course, "Nazi" is an abbreviation for "National Socialist German Workers Party"

An idiot on sooo many levels

64 CDRSalamander  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:19:22pm

I'm sorry, but this must be linked.

65 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:19:36pm

Here's the GOP party Chairman to get ahold of if you are in that state:

St. Joseph County GOP chairman Chris Riley

66 Occasional Reader[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:19:39pm
67 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:20:09pm

Hey, what is this? Guilt by association?

68 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:20:10pm

Last thread I was mocking the ignorance of Zirkle, or perhaps feigned ignorance, that Nazis aren't the same as Nationalist Socialist Workers Party.

But it appears the reporter wasn't too sure either, else why they need to point out the symbol is a swastika? Everyone knows the swastika is the Nazi symbol. (Not everyone knows it had other previous meanings).

But this following sentence almost seems as if the reporter is trying to make the connection between the Nationalist Socialist Workers Party and Nazis by using the symbol. Meaning he/she doesn't understand they are one and the same.

Zirkle confirmed to The News-Dispatch on Monday he spoke Sunday in Chicago at a meeting of the Nationalist Socialist Workers Party, whose symbol is a swastika.
69 Tumulus11  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:20:14pm
'At the event, H_tler's birthday was observed with a cake with a photo of H_tler and the words 'Seig Heil.'

. Zirkle was so shocked, he soiled his lederhosen.

70 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:20:31pm

re: #55 redstateredneck

Check out his campaign website, y'all.


Is he wearing a Navy uniform? Argh!

71 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:20:32pm
72 BIG  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:20:50pm

I hate Illinois nazis.

/Jake Blues

73 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:21:20pm

And I don't know if I agree with all these assessments of Zirkle as "dumb". "Evil" is another distinct possibility.

(Of course, he could be both)

74 Cartman[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:21:28pm
75 RoughRider  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:21:38pm

Buddy Rich drumming this guy out of the Party couldn't inflict enough pain on him as he deserves. Furthermore, the infamous offstage bootlegs of Buddy could be applied to Zirkle as well.

76 joecitizen[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:21:56pm
77 Dad O' Blondes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:22:05pm

Oh, brother.

Just what McCain needs...a Nazi Congressman in the party.

I'll be at the bar.

.

78 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:22:08pm

Oh. My. God.

Somebody kick this moron out of the Party and tell him to go join Vlaams Belang.

79 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:22:33pm

Does he get any money from any "legit" organizations?

State level Republican stuff, official?

I think that is who should be targeted first.

80 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:22:43pm

I think he's confusing us with Achmed.

81 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:22:55pm

Having been both a GOP activist/party member and an elected official (I'm recovering now!), here's how it works:

You decide you want to run for office. You get petition signatures, or pay a fee, to get your name on the ballot. You, and you alone, decide which party affiliation you will claim. The Republican Party can't stop anyone from filing to run as a Republican. What they can do is denounce this cretin in the most vociferous terms and deny him any party support or funding. That they will do.

82 WitchDoctor  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:22:56pm

re: #26 Occasional Reader

Well here in Washington state the legislature decided it would be dang peachy if you decided if you got the big (R) after your name or not. Parties shmarties. Couple that with the change to top two primary vote getters go on the ballot.

Given the left-leaning politics of this state, and a couple of ringers ready to go in as the "republican" candidate, suddenly you have a split R vote both of which don't get enough votes. Bingo! Two democrats on the final ballot. I can see it coming already.

83 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:23:08pm

re: #55 redstateredneck

what is that about angling for the McCain vp nod? Someone wake me up!
there could not be a bigger nightmare .

He must be a saboteur - no one knowingly could be this willfully damaging to conservatism or republicans

good grief!

84 Iron Mike  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:23:16pm

I hate Illinois Nazis!
Hey look! The new Oldsmobiles are in!
This mall has everything!

85 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:23:32pm

"They had swastikas, pictures of Hitler, were called the Nationalist Socialist Workers Party, and were celebrating Hitler's birthday, but it never occured to me they were nazis!"

86 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:23:35pm

re: #64 CDRSalamander

Joe Lieberman played a Nazi?

87 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:23:51pm

re: #67 Rancher

Hey, what is this? Guilt by association?

yes

88 descolada9  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:24:06pm

I don't know who let this idiot in, but I'll be more than happy to show him the way out. What a useless tool.

89 incanus  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:24:23pm

re: #48 doppelganglander

He would have been better off celebrating 420 day.

Whoa dude, they didn't call this cannabis, they called it ganja! I didn't know enough about it to make a decision either way.

90 Shelbourne  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:24:29pm

Tell me this freak gets the boot a.s.a.p. as this is Stupidity with a capital S.

91 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:24:44pm

re: #55 redstateredneck

Check out his campaign website, y'all.

WTF? He's whacked.

I'll assume this is some gadfly candidate with no chance of winning. Is there a Democrat or GOP incumbent in that seat currently?

92 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:25:00pm

re: #81 Grammy Cracker

Having been both a GOP activist/party member and an elected official (I'm recovering now!), here's how it works:

You decide you want to run for office. You get petition signatures, or pay a fee, to get your name on the ballot. You, and you alone, decide which party affiliation you will claim. The Republican Party can't stop anyone from filing to run as a Republican. What they can do is denounce this cretin in the most vociferous terms and deny him any party support or funding. That they will do.

Thanks for the info.
They MUST do so and do it loudly and publicly and NOW.

93 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:25:13pm
Elwood: Illinois Indiana Nazis.
Jake: I hate Illinois Indiana Nazis.

I'm trying to figure out which is more 'effin' pathetic...that this clown showed up to the event or is so clueless about history that he doesn't know enough about them to decide to support or oppose them?

Perhaps it just proves that common sense and intelligence are not requirements to run for elected office.

94 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:25:29pm

re: #62 Ringo the Gringo

Here's his website...He's been nice enough to provide, not only an email address, but also a phone number (scroll down to his photo).

It wouldn't be nice to put his email address on all the spam lists, now would it?
Especially for penis enlargement products; I'm sure he needs those.
I'm really saying we shouldn't do this.

95 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:25:37pm
96 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:25:56pm

re: #83 paint-right

what is that about angling for the McCain vp nod?

Um, yeah, I really wouldn't lose too much sleep over that possibility if I were you.

97 RememberSekhmet?  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:25:59pm

Hat jiemand in seinem Kopf beschissen, und vergass, umzuruehren?

Nationalist Socialist Workers Party = Nazional Sozialistische (Deutsche) Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP) = die NAZIS!

Denkt er, dass wir ganz doof sind?

98 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:26:01pm

Ron Paul, Pat Buchanon, now this guy. Vlaams Belang has considerable support among some "conservatives" here in the US, some support for BNP. Anyone else getting nervous?

99 doppelganglander  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:26:13pm

re: #84 Iron Mike

The Blues Brothers?

100 incanus[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:26:28pm
101 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:26:45pm

Sometimes it is the little things that stop you and make you stare. I just cannot believe that a group that goes out of its way to hate and destroy takes the time to put fresh flowers on the dias.

102 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:26:50pm
103 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:26:52pm

re: #81 Grammy Cracker

The Republican Party can't stop anyone from filing to run as a Republican. What they can do is denounce this cretin in the most vociferous terms and deny him any party support or funding.

Can they also waterboard him?

Pleeease? Pretty please?

104 UFO TOFU  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:27:01pm

re: #55 redstateredneck

Give me leaders who think outside the box, have the courage to express their ideas and the heart to find solutions, not excuses
105 cicero05  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:27:20pm
When asked if he was a Nazi or sympathized with Nazis or white supremacists, Zirkle replied he didn’t know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it. “This is just a great opportunity for me to witness,” he said, referring to his message and his Christian belief.

When I said Trent Lott was the most embarrassing thing Republicans had to answer for, I was wrong...

106 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:27:30pm
107 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:27:38pm

re: #92 wolfie

Thanks for the info.
They MUST do so and do it loudly and publicly and NOW.


They have, at least locally. Note that the Indiana primary hasn't happened yet, he won't be the Republican nominee, someone else is running.

108 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:27:48pm

re: #96 Occasional Reader

Um, yeah, I really wouldn't lose too much sleep over that possibility if I were you.

unless he actually does it..no I'm not losing sleep.

/on vacation in what has to be the most beautiful week in recent history.

109 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:27:58pm

re: #55 redstateredneck

Check out his campaign website, y'all.

Urk.
[Link: www.tonyzirkle.com...]

(scroll down)

---Food for thought: ---

Is it possible that a nation's embracing of porn-prostitution is one of the root causes of modern-day terrorism? For instance,

1. The first recorded polygamist, Tubal-Cain, had two wives named beautiful and comely, and his children invented weapons usable for warfare.

This boi is seriously, I mean seriously, anti-pr0n. I mean, SERIOUSLY. Y'know?

110 davidari  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:28:03pm

I posted this story to LGF links two days ago.

Just sayin'.

111 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:28:14pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Vlaams Belang has considerable support among some "conservatives" here in the US

Oh, yeah, you can't take three steps down Main Street, USA without tripping over a "Support Vlaams Belang!" sign.

Calm down, Killgore.

112 Penfold  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:28:16pm

Another proud graduate of the U.S. public school system!

113 RememberSekhmet?  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:28:43pm

Ron Paul's running mate?

/

114 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:28:48pm

re: #68 Silhouette

Everyone knows the swastika is the Nazi symbol. (Not everyone knows it had other previous meanings).


Our yearbook when I attended New Mexico State University was called the Swastika. Before that, at Purdue, our yearbook had a hammer and sickle. I need to go back to school to see what I get next.

115 kcladderman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:28:50pm

re: #84 Iron Mike

Iron Mike you from KC or just a fan?

116 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:29:01pm

re: #106 ploome hineni

No not at all

117 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:29:04pm

The "Commander" Bill White comment from below that article appears to be correct about Art Jones.

[Link: www.arthurjonesforcongress.com...]

Jones admits to being a member of...NSWPP.

[Link: www.nizkor.org...]

===

Time for a purge.

GET
OUT,
R

118 Dad O' Blondes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:29:14pm

I bet they're just like these Nazi's:

.

119 Sgt.Slappy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:29:37pm

re: #62 Ringo the Gringo

Look at his itinerary:

5. Monday, April 21, 2008 - 1:00 p.m. - 110 N. Main St., South Bend, IN. Press Conference. I will be releasing Part I of my position on the "War on Terror" I will also reveal my 2nd middle name, HVFVGPD which another candidate’s campaign manager guessed correctly. Finally, the original 1st Edition Penthouse magazine will be shredded so long as two reporters and 1 television station from the press attends. If the press turns out in mass (unlikely), I have a source who may be willing to donate a complete or near complete set of Penthouses.


This man is insane.

120 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:29:37pm

re: #109 itellu3times

This boi is seriously, I mean seriously, anti-pr0n. I mean, SERIOUSLY. Y'know?

As in he has to watch a lot of it to make sure it isn't hurting anyone serious?

121 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:29:38pm
122 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:29:54pm

re: #114 Rancher

Our yearbook when I attended New Mexico State University was called the Swastika. Before that, at Purdue, our yearbook had a hammer and sickle. I need to go back to school to see what I get next.

A donkey.

123 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:30:03pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Ron Paul, Pat Buchanon, now this guy. Vlaams Belang has considerable support among some "conservatives" here in the US, some support for BNP. Anyone else getting nervous?

hooker,"Nervous?"
guy,"Yeah."
hooker,"This your first time?"
guy,"No.I've been nervous lots of times."

all due credit to neil simon..

124 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:30:09pm

I for one do not believe for a single second that Zirkle was/is unaware that nazi is the acronym for national socialist worker's party.

125 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:30:26pm

What type of personality, other than a sadist, sado-masochist, or psychotic, uses Hitler and/or the swastika as an organizing figure?

126 nikis-knight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:30:33pm

Wait... you think this is the first example of a flesh and blood moby?
Cause he can't possibly be serious. Even if he was Nazi-sympathetic, he can't be that ignorant of what the rest of the country thinks, can he?
And c'mon, everyone knows that's a Nazi event after, like, 1.5 seconds, right?
Can't be serious, isn't funny enough for the Onion... I'm so confused.

127 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:30:46pm
128 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:30:47pm

re: #120 looking closely

As in he has to watch a lot of it to make sure it isn't hurting anyone serious?

Oh yeah.

129 RememberSekhmet?  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:30:49pm

For a guy who is supposedly anti-porn, he sure hangs with a lot of people who have a fetish for Nazi uniforms.

130 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:31:02pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Ron Paul, Pat Buchanon, now this guy. Vlaams Belang has considerable support among some "conservatives" here in the US, some support for BNP. Anyone else getting nervous?

Fascists exist on both the left and right of the political spectrum. We just need to oppose and stand against all fascists.

131 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:31:16pm

re: #121 ploome hineni

he was everything except Miss America

lol

i think he's a prevert of the proverbial sort...talking about bad stuff whilst digging it all the while

/and I meant prevert

132 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:31:16pm

re: #106 ploome hineni

Georgetown cum laude?
Good grief.

133 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:31:37pm

re: #123 joecitizen

hooker,"Nervous?"
guy,"Yeah."
hooker,"This your first time?"
guy,"No.I've been nervous lots of times."

A very, very similiar dialogue take place in Airplane!.

134 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:32:05pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Ron Paul, Pat Buchanon, now this guy. Vlaams Belang has considerable support among some "conservatives" here in the US, some support for BNP. Anyone else getting nervous?

No.

I'd bet your average self-identified "Conservative" has never even heard of Vlaams Belang.

If you look at American politicians on the right emitting the same kind of rhetoric, its a VERY tiny sliver.

135 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:32:16pm

re: #124 Slumbering Behemoth

I for one do not believe for a single second that Zirkle was/is unaware that nazi is the acronym for national socialist worker's party.

Er, yeah, the big Hitler portrait probably tipped him off, too.

136 Shug  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:32:29pm

How do you say God Damn America in German ?

137 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:32:40pm
138 cicero05  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:32:57pm

Barack Obama has been a member of the Chicago Nazi Party for 20 years. But don't judge him by it. He was never at a meeting where anyone said anything offensive.

139 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:32:58pm

re: #135 Occasional Reader

Er, yeah, the big Hitler portrait probably tipped him off, too.

Who dat?

140 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:33:22pm

[Link: www.ratemyeverything.net...]

What say you?

141 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:33:29pm

Any chance this is a hoax?

Something just doesn't smell right here.

142 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:33:55pm

re: #135 Occasional Reader

Er, yeah, the big Hitler portrait probably tipped him off, too.

"That was Hitler?! I thought it was Charlie Chaplin."

143 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:33:56pm

This offends me on so many levels, I don't know where to start. Well, okay...maybe I do:

I am a Christian. We are not racists, nazis or supremacists, and we denounce those who are. They DO NOT speak for Christians.

I am a Republican. We are not racists, nazis or supremacists, and we denounce those who are. They DO NOT speak for Republicans.

I am a thinking human being. We are not racists, nazis or supremacists, and we denounce those who are. They DO NOT speak for thinking human beings.

I'll probably come up with more, but right now I think I need a shower... Ugh!

144 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:33:57pm

re: #133 Occasional Reader

A very, very similiar dialogue take place in Airplane!.


I dont remember that..this bit o business is I think in "Brighton Beach Memoirs".

145 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:34:09pm

re: #137 ploome hineni

if you read the rest of that page, it ust seems to be a load

of fabricated crap

super fishy

146 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:34:32pm

re: #122 itellu3times

A donkey.

He still looks like an ass to me...

147 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:34:48pm

re: #125 Sol Roth

What type of personality, other than a sadist, sado-masochist, or psychotic, uses Hitler and/or the swastika as an organizing figure?

A crazed narcissist desperate for attention?

148 Alouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:34:48pm

re: #56 nikis-knight

Zirkle replied he didn’t know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it. “This is just a great opportunity for me to witness,” he said, referring to his message and his Christian belief.

Is his next speaking engagement at Al Qaeda?

149 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:34:51pm

re: #103 Occasional Reader

Can they also waterboard him?

Pleeease? Pretty please?

I will travel to Indiana at my own expense if they will let me help...

150 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:34:59pm

re: #129 RememberSekhmet?

For a guy who is supposedly anti-porn, he sure hangs with a lot of people who have a fetish for Nazi uniforms.

It's the S&M skits...

151 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:35:00pm

ANd what about that group he's meeting with?!?

Imagine entering the wrong hall on your way to your cousins wedding and seeing THAT effen party!

152 Shug  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:35:00pm
153 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:35:22pm

re: #110 davidari

I posted this story to LGF links two days ago.

Just sayin'.

You can accomplish way more than you ever thought possible if you let others take the credit for it.

(We know and thanks!)

154 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:35:42pm

re: #141 Occasional Reader

Any chance this is a hoax?

Something just doesn't smell right here.


I live in the district he is running in and he is embarassingly real. He's a nobody, he will lose in the primary.

155 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:35:57pm

re: #144 joecitizen

I dont remember that..this bit o business is I think in "Brighton Beach Memoirs".

If so, then he swiped it from Airplane!. The latter was released in 1980; "BBM" premiered in 1983.

156 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:36:09pm
157 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:36:19pm

re: #141 Occasional Reader
Looks legit.

158 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:36:23pm

He is NOT the nominee and won't be, I'm guessing.

Zirkle is running against Republican Luke Puckett of Goshen and Joseph Roush of Plymouth in the May primary. He lost twice before in primaries to former U.S. Rep. Chris Chocola
159 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:36:25pm

re: #124 Slumbering Behemoth

Right.

As I pointed out in the other thread where this came up, either the guy is a bald-faced liar of the worst kind, or he's a complete historical ignoramus.

Either way, he's unfit to hold the office of dog-catcher, let alone whichever one he is actually running for.

In terms of the "human moby" theory, I don't really think its possible to sink the candidacy of someone by running as a complete jag-off of the same nominal party.

Buchanan didn't stop Bush. Ron Paul hasn't capsized McCain, etc.

If you are Republican running for office, for example, its very easy to say "This guy may be a Jackass, but he doesn't represent either me OR my party!".

160 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:36:46pm

re: #155 Occasional Reader

If so, then he swiped it from Airplane!. The latter was released in 1980; "BBM" premiered in 1983.


did the movie premiere in '83 or the play?

161 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:36:57pm

re: #137 ploome hineni

if you read the rest of that page, it ust seems to be a load

of fabricated crap

Yeah. I'm beginning to think this may be straight out of the Ward Churchill handbook on resumes! Bogus.

162 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:37:29pm

re: #151 Ben Hur

Imagine entering the wrong hall on your way to your cousins wedding and seeing THAT effen party!

That's why hand grenades were invented, um, lovely weather we're having, isn't it?

163 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:37:30pm

re: #154 zmdavid

It would be fitting if it were a humiliating loss...but I would suppose that self-humilation is not a real concern of his.

164 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:38:05pm

Next week, NAMBLA!

"I thought they were the North American Marlon Brando Lookalikes"

165 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:38:59pm

Just to throw some wood on the fire, cause I'm not a fan of NAZI analogies to OUR politicians, but is this guy the White version of Barry?

Is he not Barry's polar image?

166 nikis-knight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:39:08pm

re: #154 zmdavid

I live in the district he is running in and he is embarassingly real. He's a nobody, he will lose in the primary be used as evidence of GOP racism of decades to come.


Sigh... fixed it for you.

167 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:39:09pm

perhaps the nazis think that since ellisonthe muslimfuck got into congress mebbe their little critter can,too..

168 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:39:11pm

re: #147 wolfie

A crazed narcissist desperate for attention?

That would fall under they heading of functioning psychotic?

169 Shug  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:39:12pm

Paging Mr Bloom!

Paging Mr Bialystock !

170 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:39:20pm

re: #122 itellu3times

A donkey.

UC Berkeley?

171 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:39:28pm

from the article:


When asked if he was a Nazi or sympathized with Nazis or white supremacists, Zirkle replied he didn’t know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it. “This is just a great opportunity for me to witness,” he said, referring to his message and his Christian belief.

Uh, Nazis? I don't have a degree in electrical engineering, but I know enough about the nazis to oppose them.


He also told WIMS radio in Michigan City that he didn’t believe the event he attended included people necessarily of the Nazi mindset, pointing out the name isn’t Nazi, but Nationalist Socialist Workers Party.

That's, uh, what NAZI meant... I suppose he didn't see the nazi flag or the giant-ass picture of Hitler behind him.

...

I will point out one thing though... he's going to catch more hell over this than Obama got for his racist extremist group connections.

172 yochanan  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:39:33pm

THIS GUY IS A TOTAL A'' HOLE we should begiving out info on the guy he is running against him in the gop primary

173 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:39:37pm

re: #158 Silhouette

He lost twice before in primaries to former U.S. Rep. Chris Chocola

Is Chris Chocola by any chance a Count?

So, look, kids, what we seem to be seeing here is; Zirkle is just some evil lunatic who self-designated as a Republican and ran for office. This says ZERO about the Republican Party. He could declare himself a Campfire Girl, too, fer pete's sake.

174 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:39:50pm

I emailed the RNC, throw this clown under the bus, get out kick him to the curb then park the bus on him, and burn the bus.

175 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:39:53pm

re: #160 joecitizen

did the movie premiere in '83 or the play?

The play.

176 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:40:04pm

Google the surname Zirkle. Very interesting hits on the genealogy. Family tree runs straight back to Germany.

Co-inky-dink? I think not!

177 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:40:25pm

re: #173 Occasional Reader

Is Chris Chocola by any chance a Count?

So, look, kids, what we seem to be seeing here is; Zirkle is just some evil lunatic who self-designated as a Republican and ran for office. This says ZERO about the Republican Party. He could declare himself a Campfire Girl, too, fer pete's sake.


Yup, but tell that to the MSM that I'm sure is already chomping at the bit.

178 Shug  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:40:42pm

My caption

Zirkle Jerk

179 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:40:59pm

re: #175 Occasional Reader

The play.


ty..NEIL SIMON IS A PLAGIARIST!

180 Jamie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:41:04pm

re: #141 Occasional Reader,

Any chance this is a hoax?

Something just doesn't smell right here.

Unlikely, but I think it's much ado about nothing. The guy is a primary candidate, with two other GOPers vying for the seat, one of whom looks the most likely to garner the nomination.

Anyone can pay a filing fee, gather signatures, and run for a party's nomination. That he chose to do so under the banner of the GOP is no more reflective of the Republican Party than it would be of Democrats if whoremonger David Vitter decided to resign and run for the Democratic nomination for his seat. It is very fair to hold parties accountable for who they nominate. I don't think it's particularly fair to do so for people who decide they want to try to be the party's nominee. Anyone can do that if they so desire.

181 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:41:08pm

re: #85 Silhouette

"They had swastikas, pictures of Hitler, were called the Nationalist Socialist Workers Party, and were celebrating Hitler's birthday, but it never occured to me they were nazis!"

This brings to mind a Far Side cartoon I saw once. It was entitled "Overlooking the obvious" and had a picture of a duck standing in the middle of a room with a guy at a desk looking at it and thinking, "Well, it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, and quacks like a duck, but what the heck is it?!?" :D :D :D :D :D

182 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:41:19pm

re: #165 Ben Hur

Just to throw some wood on the fire, cause I'm not a fan of NAZI analogies to OUR politicians, but is this guy the White version of Barry?

Is he not Barry's polar image?

In too many ways to contemplate, I fear. Sigh.

183 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:41:21pm

Carter: Rice Not Telling Truth About Hamas Warning

Former President Jimmy Carter stopped just short Wednesday of saying Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is lying about warning him not to meet last week with Hamas leaders in Syria.

Because all those screaming newspaper headlines about "State Tells Carter not to Meet with Hamas" etc, just weren't enough.

184 JohnInTheWoods  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:41:35pm

His education history is scary. Smart guy ? Seems so...but his resume lists only two years at the Naval Academy...so he got pitched out for something. After that, he's "Ricochet Rabbit"...6 months here, 4 months there, 10 months someplace else. You know..."Can't hold a job".

Read some of his thoughts on his campaign site...he's openly anti-semitic, and anti-lots of other stuff, too. Scary guy...he's a Hoosier version of David Icke.

And he's got quite a flair with words - "The GPD (Great Porn-Dragon) is seeking so set up this country as a Broke-Barack mountain of gay pride Obama-Nation where a nation that was conceived in liberty now conceives in illigitimacy at 40% in Indiana, where a nation that grew as a Christian lamb is now phoenix-izing itself to speak as a porn dragon."

Uh...yeah...whatever you say, Sport.

Scroll down and look around: [Link: www.tonyzirkle.com...]

185 yochanan  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:41:39pm

re: #158 Silhouette

He is NOT the nominee and won't be, I'm guessing.


find out which of the two is stronger and give your support to him
this facocked a momzar will hurt the whole gop if we don't actively oppose him in the most public way.

186 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:41:51pm

Some of Zirkle's beliefs

...We would do well to learn from the French Revolution. ...I have to concede that the democrats are not all wrong when it comes to economics.

... if an individual makes too much money, at some point, he/she will choose to produce less ...The Republican Party platform is promoting the increasing disparity between the wealthy and the poor ...I will vote for no more tax cuts for billionaires...the Republicans are actually raising taxes by devaluing the dollar...If you have voted democratic before and you do not agree with everything it is promoting, you are invited to vote for me in the primary. If you vote democrat based on economics, jobs or health care, you can safely vote for me in the primary.

187 chinesearithmetic  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:42:18pm

I wish Mike Royko had lived to see this.

188 bryantms  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:42:21pm

re: #178 Shug

That's hilarious...haha

189 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:42:27pm

re: #182 wolfie


I mean in the extent of their radicalism.

190 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:42:27pm
from the article:


When asked if he was a Nazi or sympathized with Nazis or white supremacists, Zirkle replied he didn’t know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it. “This is just a great opportunity for me to witness,” he said, referring to his message and his Christian belief.

Uh, Nazis? I don't have a degree in electrical engineering, but I know enough about the nazis to oppose them.


He also told WIMS radio in Michigan City that he didn’t believe the event he attended included people necessarily of the Nazi mindset, pointing out the name isn’t Nazi, but Nationalist Socialist Workers Party.

That's, uh, what NAZI meant... I suppose he didn't see the nazi flag or the giant-ass picture of Hitler behind him.

...

I will point out one thing though... he's going to catch more hell over this than Obama got for his racist extremist group connections.

Oh...so now you've got a degree in Political Science!?

191 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:42:45pm

re: #176 Grammy Cracker

Google the surname Zirkle. Very interesting hits on the genealogy. Family tree runs straight back to Germany.

Co-inky-dink? I think not!

Thats exactly what I was thinking, without checking: suspiciously Germanic name, down to the spelling.


Oh, and shug, 'God damn america' in German is 'Gott verfluche Amerika'.

/sorry, trying to be helpful

192 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:42:48pm
193 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:43:11pm

re: #178 Shug

My caption

Zirkle Jerk


Kudos.

194 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:43:20pm

As long as they continue to pay their Joo tax...

195 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:43:23pm

re: #158 Silhouette

He lost twice before in primaries to former U.S. Rep. Chris Chocola

He is NOT the nominee and won't be, I'm guessing.

well, count chocula is very popular

what?

oh, never mind

196 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:43:48pm

re: #129 RememberSekhmet?

For a guy who is supposedly anti-porn, he sure hangs with a lot of people who have a fetish for Nazi uniforms.

LOL!

197 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:43:50pm

re: #187 chinesearithmetic

I wish Mike Royko had lived to see this.

Heh. Royko would've loved making mince meat out of Obama as well.

198 Widow'smight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:43:52pm

re: #176 Grammy Cracker

Is it like the Zirkle of Life? What goes around, comes around?

How's the pack of stick eatin, Pond jumping furrballs today?

199 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:43:57pm

re: #180 Jamie

Exactly, there's a difference between this guy TRYING to be a Republican Candidate and RObert Byrd, KKK member, who IS a Democrat Icon. (Or, for that matter, Senator Obama, running for President as a Dem)

200 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:43:58pm

re: #186 Silhouette

A Jacobin's point of view...no wonder he's quite at home with fascists.

201 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:44:04pm

re: #178 Shug

My caption

Zirkle Jerk

you got it

202 bryantms  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:44:15pm

re: #192 redstateredneck

Wow, good find.

203 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:44:26pm

re: #166 nikis-knight

Sigh... fixed it for you.

If the guy never holds elected office, and *particularly* if he is beaten by another Republican, then how is he going to reflect badly on the Republicans?

If he can't win office, and nobody of substance or influence in the Republican party supports him, he's nothing, not even a pimple on the ass of the Republicans like Ron Paul.

204 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:46:02pm

re: #151 Ben Hur

Once, I was going to a gun show and ended up walking into a Mariachi convention. No joke.

/wrong door.

205 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:46:13pm

re: #198 Widow'smight

Is it like the Zirkle of Life? What goes around, comes around?

How's the pack of stick eatin, Pond jumping furrballs today?

Mud-puppies today! Spring has sprung and they are hitting every puddle they can find! Sigh. If they weren't so flippin' cute, I'd kick 'em all to the curb.

/NOT

206 MellyMel  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:46:20pm

re: #144 joecitizen

I dont remember that..this bit o business is I think in "Brighton Beach Memoirs".

It's "Biloxi Blues." LOVED that movie!

207 Daryl Herbert  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:46:37pm

“That’s the risk you have to take to get your point across,” Zirkle said. “If the Black Panthers or the Jewish Zionists want me to speak about these issues, I’ll do it.”

So he pretends not to know much about the Nazis, but then immediately brings up the Nazis' two favorite hate targets in order to make excuses for them.

208 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:46:44pm

re: #192 redstateredneck

re: #203 looking closely

If the guy never holds elected office, and *particularly* if he is beaten by another Republican, then how is he going to reflect badly on the Republicans?

If he can't win office, and nobody of substance or influence in the Republican party supports him, he's nothing, not even a pimple on the ass of the Republicans like Ron Paul.

I do agree with you in FACT, but remember that the MSM is much more concerned with political points.

They'll call him a "Republican" regardless of the truth.

209 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:46:53pm

re: #189 Ben Hur

I mean in the extent of their radicalism.

Exactly. And in their willingness to associate with scum.
And their disingenuous defense of it.
That's what I am thinking of. Sigh.

210 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:46:57pm

re: #186 Me

So it sounds like he is a socialist, or at least very pro-tax. He just chose to run Rep because he thought they'd be more likely to agree with hi

211 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:46:57pm

re: #203 looking closely

If the guy never holds elected office, and *particularly* if he is beaten by another Republican, then how is he going to reflect badly on the Republicans?

If he can't win office, and nobody of substance or influence in the Republican party supports him, he's nothing, not even a pimple on the ass of the Republicans like Ron Paul.

so he's just hitched his battered old Mercedes to the republican party in an attempt to appear legit - I'm thinking

/gah

212 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:47:29pm

re: #208 LanceKates

that 192 to redstate shouldn't have been in there.

213 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:47:34pm

re: #204 Slumbering Behemoth

Once, I was going to a gun show and ended up walking into a Mariachi convention. No joke.

/wrong door.

Mariachis have conventions?

(I know a really, really great joke - one of my favorites - involving Mariachis, but it only works in Spanish)

214 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:48:43pm
The "commander" of the organization, Bill White, issued a statement and an endorsement of Zirkle after stories started popping up about the candidate's participation in their birthday bash:

"The criticism that Mr. Zirkle has received for his actions is pure wickedness, fed by a libertine and thoroughly Judaized ruling class which sees the white working poor as mere toys for their pleasure and exploitation. By linking the struggle against the sexual exploitation of the white working poor to the struggle against the economic exploitation of the white working poor, Mr. Zirkle has done our society a service, and we urge the voters of Indiana's 2nd Congressional District to nominate him as the Republican Candidate for Congress."

It gets better.

White continues: "We further warn those inclined to denigrate this good man to cease and desist their efforts, before we are compelled to launch another Leonard Pitts or Jena 6 style protest campaign in the South Bend area. I also remind certain DC bloggers that I have been known to either come to the homes of or send others to the homes of blowhards to discuss their inappropriate commentary, and continue that inclination."

215 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:48:46pm

re: #186 Silhouette
So to top it all off he's a RINO!

216 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:48:50pm
217 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:49:00pm

Of course we're all lying and secretly love the guy because we are Zionist Joos.

This is all just a black flag op to help the Joos, cause, you know, because of that razor thing, this only helps rile sympathy for the Joos so I can control the world.

218 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:49:06pm

I found it! I found the reason he is as insanely stupid as he is

I hope you'll forgive me for the lack of organization and what may appear to be loose associations. I'm still working on processing the massive amount of info that was put into my brain in 12-13 years of college course work.
Best wishes and Peace,

Tony Zirkle

219 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:49:08pm

re: #166 nikis-knight

re: #154 zmdavid

I live in the district he is running in and he is embarassingly real. He's a nobody, he will lose in the primary be used as evidence of GOP racism of decades to come.

Sigh... fixed it for you.

Yeah, that's the first thing that came to mind when I heard he was a Republican. Bloody hell!

220 MJ  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:49:32pm

re: #183 Ben Hur

Carter: Rice Not Telling Truth About Hamas Warning


Because all those screaming newspaper headlines about "State Tells Carter not to Meet with Hamas" etc, just weren't enough.

From the White House:

Q Thank you, Dana. Two questions. The AP in Kuwait quotes Secretary of State Rice as saying, "The United States is not going to deal with Hamas. And we had certainly told President Carter that we did not think meeting with Hamas was going to help." And my question: Since the result of this telling was that Mr. Carter proceeded directly to violate this U.S. policy and meet with these terrorists, what is President Bush prepared to do to put an end to this one-man defiance of our policy which so gratified the terrorists?

MS. PERINO: Well, former President Carter is a private citizen, and he made a decision to not comply with what the State Department asked him to do. What I think the President would focus on is, if you go back to what reportedly Hamas said to former President Carter, that they were willing to take these steps for peace, that the very next day, that they went ahead and murdered many people at the Gaza crossing. And I think actions speak louder than words, and we remain very concerned about the situation. That's why Secretary Rice was in the region.

Q If the President, as our nation's chief law enforcer, fails to order Mr. Carter's passport revoked, how many more people like Carter may want to plot U.S. policy in this regard, do you imagine?
---

Good question. Too bad Perino made a smart-ass answer:

MS. PERINO: I don't know, you'll have to take a national survey.

221 Paco from Sefarad  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:49:48pm

This guy is seriously crazy!

[Link: www.tonyzirkle.com...]

TONY ZIRKLE FOR CONGRESS

PRESS RELEASE: IMMIGRATION and SOCIAL REFORM
MARCH 24, 2006

Amended March 29, 2006

“FROM DEAD BEAT TO THE BORDER BEAT”

“ZIRKLE PROPOSES BORDER DRAFT FOR CHILD SUPPORT DODGERS”

1. Immigration Reform.

In my 2004 Congressional race, I stated that we will never solve the illegal immigration problem unless we grant concurrent jurisdiction to local law enforcement to enforce immigration laws. Objectors often state that the undocumented will then fail to cooperate with local law enforcement. My answer is to provide local county prosecutors with visa granting authority to stay deportation for material witnesses to felony and certain misdemeanor crimes such as domestic violence.

No one is calling for the deportation of millions, so the answer has to be a one-time final amnesty with real enforcement for future law breakers. However, we must first secure the borders.

Stage 1: I am proposing to re-introduce the draft for child support dodgers. The first to be drafted will be those who have children out of wedlock with 20 or more women...

His rant on Antisemitism is incomprehensible but worth looking at, scroll down almost to the bottom of the page:

[Link: www.tonyzirkle.com...]

222 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:49:56pm

re: #206 MellyMel

It's "Biloxi Blues." LOVED that movie!


Except they pronouced Biloxi the way it's spelled and not Biluxi, the way God intended it to be pronounced.

223 Yashmak  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:50:40pm

He also told WIMS radio in Michigan City that he didn’t believe the event he attended included people necessarily of the Nazi mindset, pointing out the name isn’t Nazi, but Nationalist Socialist Workers Party.

sarc Man, how can anyone counter such mind-blowing logic? /sarc

I'm just sitting here shaking my head in disbelief. I know some of our politicians are stupid, heck Barbara Boxer is my Senator, so I know all about that. But I don't even think SHE is stupid enough to do something like this guy.

224 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:50:52pm

re: #209 wolfie

Exactly. And in their willingness to associate with scum.
And their disingenuous defense of it.
That's what I am thinking of. Sigh.

Yet, theirs is acceptable.

It's ingrained.

Even the high priests of post-modernism, who preach that there is no good or evil, right or wrong, etc, site only Nazis as the exception to the rule, and not Stalinists.

225 nikis-knight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:50:52pm

re: #203 looking closely

If the guy never holds elected office, and *particularly* if he is beaten by another Republican, then how is he going to reflect badly on the Republicans?

If he can't win office, and nobody of substance or influence in the Republican party supports him, he's nothing, not even a pimple on the ass of the Republicans like Ron Paul.

No, you're right, hopefully. It's just a kind of slander for someone so either stupid or wicked to call himself republican and christian. But oh well theres a lot of crazies...

226 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:50:55pm

re: #214 redstateredneck

"I also remind certain DC bloggers that I have been known to either come to the homes of or send others to the homes of blowhards to discuss their inappropriate commentary"

Oh, really, Mr. White?

And *I* have been known to keep loaded with #1 plated buffered buckshot for just such an eventuality.

227 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:51:03pm
It gets better.

White continues: "We further warn those inclined to denigrate this good man to cease and desist their efforts, before we are compelled to launch another Leonard Pitts or Jena 6 style protest campaign in the South Bend area. I also remind certain DC bloggers that I have been known to either come to the homes of or send others to the homes of blowhards to discuss their inappropriate commentary, and continue that inclination."


Sounds like a terroristic threat to me...except that no one individual is targeted.

228 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:51:30pm

re: #192 redstateredneck

Let's take another look at that segregation thing.

from the article:

“We could have six states that are African American, 44 states white and Hispanic, because I don't really see much of a difference between the two cultures. Let people vote and let them decide."

Nah, he's no racist. See? He wants to give blacks 6 whole states to run around in!

*smirk*

douche.

229 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:52:02pm

re: #226 Occasional Reader

Oh, really, Mr. White?

And *I* have been known to keep loaded with #1 plated buffered buckshot for just such an eventuality.

Lock & load, baby!

230 Iron Mike  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:52:07pm

re: #115 kcladderman

Just a fan...a very, very disheartened fan. I can't believe JA is gone!
Actually live in Iowa.

231 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:52:17pm
232 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:52:18pm

I'm getting the feeling that there won't be too many columnists given a platform to defend this guy, like the Left does with their freaks.

233 cygnus  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:52:39pm

re: #10 bulwrk

I hate Indiana all Nazis.

That about covers the waterfront.

234 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:52:55pm

re: #218 Silhouette

I found it! I found the reason he is as insanely stupid as he is

O-mi-gawd ...
13 years in college?
That explains everything.

235 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:52:59pm

re: #228 LanceKates

Nah, he's no racist. See? He wants to give blacks 6 whole states to run around in!

*smirk*

douche.

Hell, they're gonna get Mississippi for sure. Now I gotta move.

236 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:53:12pm

re: #228 LanceKates

Nah, he's no racist. See? He wants to give blacks 6 whole states to run around in!

That's mighty white of him.

237 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:53:13pm

re: #216 Slumbering Behemoth

Retrospective Irony?

Tony Zirkle: Safe For Democratic Voters.

WOW. HEY CHARLES, I THINK THIS MERITS AN UPDATE.

Great find, SB. Self-righteous lefty asshat Chris Hedges getting all warm n' fuzzy about Tony "Swastika? What swastika"" Zirkle... priceless.

238 MellyMel  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:53:13pm

re: #222 redstateredneck

Except they pronouced Biloxi the way it's spelled and not Biluxi, the way God intended it to be pronounced.

Wow. I have been pronouncing that wrong all this time...and in MS too!

/I beg forgiveness from the crawfish gods!

239 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:53:17pm

re: #214 redstateredneck

I also remind certain DC bloggers that I have been known to either come to the homes of or send others to the homes of blowhards to discuss their inappropriate commentary, and continue that inclination."

F*ck you Bill White.

Come to my home. PLEASE...

240 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:53:29pm

re: #234 yma o hyd

Hey!

Watching ManU match.

241 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:53:30pm

re: #227 eschew_obfuscation

Who has White confronted? Or had confronted? I wonder.

242 Widow'smight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:53:44pm

re: #205 Grammy Cracker

My Golden needs a bath, he's beginning to smell to me. He begins to smell to the Queen and Princesses much quicker for some reason.

Could it be that along with needing Glasses and Hair migrating to other parts of my body that my sense of smell is going?

243 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:53:50pm

re: #55 redstateredneck

From his web site:

I have a source who may be willing to donate a complete or near complete set of Penthouses.

Hmmm. Your Pron bad - mine, good.

244 Yashmak  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:53:55pm

@#232 Ben Hur

And even if there were, how would one defend a guy who is dumb enough to express the opinion that the National Socialist Workers Party has nothing to do with Nazis? I mean, seriously.

245 3 wood  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:53:58pm

OT: Umm, hey fellas? Read this:

Study: Masturbation May Prevent Prostate Cancer

Men who frequently masturbate appear to have a lower risk of developing prostate cancer, Australian researchers reported.

Researchers from the Cancer Council of Victoria found that men who masturbated more than five times each week were one-third less likely to develop the cancer.

No comment.

246 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:54:38pm

re: #238 MellyMel

Wow. I have been pronouncing that wrong all this time...and in MS too!

/I beg forgiveness from the crawfish gods!

Damn carpetbagger!

247 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:54:40pm

Zirkle claims in numerous places to have attended the USNA, but I can't find any on-line record of that, that didn't come directly from him.

re: #214 redstateredneck

If Bill White shows up at my house, he'd better bring a lot of friends. I have a lot of kosher ammo.

CENTER
BODY
MASS,
R

248 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:54:42pm

re: #235 redstateredneck

Hell, they're gonna get Mississippi for sure. Now I gotta move.

They can't have Oklahoma, we're INDIAN country!

*grin*

249 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:54:54pm

But enough about how Zirkle feels about the Dems. How does he feel about the GOP?

If the Republican Party does not wake up and get over its obsession with tax cuts for the rich, they will run the risk of a storming of the Bastille by the democrats this November. I say we need a Republican Bobby Kennedy who will take up the cause of social justice, strengthen the middle class and break the bonds of oppression in all of its forms.
250 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:55:08pm

re: #245 3 wood

OT: Umm, hey fellas? Read this:

Study: Masturbation May Prevent Prostate Cancer


No comment.

HAHA, I'LL NEVER GET IT THEN!

Wait...

251 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:55:14pm

re: #62 Ringo the Gringo

Here's his website...He's been nice enough to provide, not only an email address, but also a phone number (scroll down to his photo).

This guy's inchoherent and paranoid. If you read his War on Terror link you can't tell what he supports or not.

252 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:55:21pm
253 cygnus  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:55:39pm

re: #25 crazytraveler

You can't have a Hitler b-day party without cake!

I'd prefer to give him yellowcake (as in uranium).

254 MJ  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:55:44pm

re: #245 3 wood

OT: Umm, hey fellas? Read this:

Study: Masturbation May Prevent Prostate Cancer


No comment.

Yes, but they go blind!

255 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:55:58pm

re: #239 LanceKates

F*ck you Bill White.

Come to my home. PLEASE...

Nope, I called dibs. Wait your turn.

256 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:56:07pm

re: #244 Yashmak

@#232 Ben Hur

And even if there were, how would one defend a guy who is dumb enough to express the opinion that the National Socialist Workers Party has nothing to do with Nazis? I mean, seriously.

Your right.

Stupid is stupid.

No defending that.

Though I do believe that 90% of readers under the age of 36 would say, "That's what Nazi stands for?" "They were Socialists!?!?"

257 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:56:18pm

re: #240 Ben Hur

Hey!

Watching ManU match.

Who's winning?
(I'm not watching, teeheehee!)

258 Yashmak  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:56:29pm

#254 MJ Yes, but they go blind!

Nah, that's a myth. It's a fact that God kills a kitten every time though.

259 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:56:41pm

re: #247 Render

Zirkle claims in numerous places to have attended the USNA, but I can't find any on-line record of that, that didn't come directly from him.

If Bill White shows up at my house, he'd better bring a lot of friends. I have a lot of kosher ammo.

CENTER
BODY
MASS,
R


Instead of impressing little crosses into the front of the round, does that mean you impress little stars of david?

*grin*

What a prick that guy is... I wonder if his 'threat' can be considered for prosecution?

260 UFO TOFU  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:56:47pm

re: #254 MJ
Can I just prevent prostate cancer until I need glasses?

261 coldpizza  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:56:48pm

"Zirkle" like "Zundel" has familiar ring to it. What an idiot.

262 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:56:53pm
re: #227 eschew_obfuscation

Who has White confronted? Or had confronted? I wonder.

Though I wouldn't let my guard down around this man, I suspect he's full of hot air.

263 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:57:14pm
264 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:57:19pm

re: #255 Occasional Reader

Nope, I called dibs. Wait your turn.

That's correct. You have first dibs. If you only maim him, then he's fair game for other shooters.

265 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:57:28pm

re: #245 3 wood

Heh. I have read similar info. It's also supposed to be good for the health of your heart. However, the studies I've read are quick to point out that nothing can replace the real thing for overall physical and mental health.

266 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:57:30pm

re: #247 Render

CENTER
BODY
MASS,
R

Render, I must strenuously object to this deeply disturbing post.


Ain't ya never heard of the Mozambique Drill?

267 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:57:32pm

re: #255 Occasional Reader

Nope, I called dibs. Wait your turn.

Whatever, he's already said that he's visted the homes of bloggers from DC. How do I know you haven't already HAD your turn?

268 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:58:02pm
But Zirkle defends his comments. He says he's not for segregation in terms of oppression or crime. Rather, he says it's something voters should consider with crime rates and out of wedlock births high among African Americans.

Consider the guy supercallfragalistically denounced.

269 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:58:03pm

re: #255 Occasional Reader

Nope, I called dibs. Wait your turn.

Be careful.

White folk are a wiley, crafty bunch.

They may use their vast network, you know the one, that controls the banks, media and everything in between, controls governments and foments civil wars, etc, to FIND YOU!

270 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:58:24pm

re: #258 Yashmak

#254 MJ Yes, but they go blind!

Nah, that's a myth. It's a fact that God kills a kitten every time though.

it is also why the dinosaurs died. Premeditated punishment.

271 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:58:52pm

re: #117 Render

The "Commander" Bill White comment from below that article appears to be correct about Art Jones.

[Link: www.arthurjonesforcongress.com...]

Jones admits to being a member of...NSWPP.

[Link: www.nizkor.org...]

===

Time for a purge.

GET
OUT,
R

I agree, and there's that YAfF (NOT YAF) connection again.

272 Widow'smight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:58:54pm

re: #230 Iron Mike

They need the draft Picks, I think they did fine for themselves. By the time they get good again, he'll be too old probably. I actually have a Chiefs Beanie that's about 40 years old, still in great shape.

Go Eagles

273 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:59:01pm

re: #259 LanceKates

Ever looked closely at the business end of 12 gauge discarding sabot?

SIX
POINTS,
R

274 justiceforall  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:59:05pm

Tony Zirkle says: “That’s the risk you have to take to get your point across,” Zirkle said. “If the Black Panthers or the Jewish Zionists want me to speak about these issues, I’ll do it.”

I'm guessing he won't be getting an invitation though.

275 Shug  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:59:21pm

re: #245 3 wood

Sexual intercourse may not have the same effect because it increases the risk of contracting a sexually transmitted disease, which could raise the risk of cancer, the Web site reported.

damn the torpedos, full speed ahead

276 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:59:36pm

re: #254 MJ

Yes, but they go blind!

My Dad said I'd go blind doing that.

I said, "Dad, I'm over here."

277 debutaunt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:59:37pm

re: #260 UFO TOFU

Can I just prevent prostate cancer until I need glasses?

Not to worry. You'll still be able to find it when you're blind.

278 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:59:38pm

Interesting reading: Zirkle's campaign committee financial disclosures. They're blank. Zip. Zero. Nada.

He calls his committee "It's the Kids Smartie" ?

WHAT?

Even if he is entirely self-funding the campaign, that has to be reported. This calls for more research...

279 RememberSekhmet?  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:59:48pm

re: #259 LanceKates

Instead of impressing little crosses into the front of the round, does that mean you impress little stars of david?

*grin*

What a prick that guy is... I wonder if his 'threat' can be considered for prosecution?

I was thinking very very stale matzo balls

280 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:59:48pm

re: #257 yma o hyd

0-0 @ 57 min.

Which reminds me of a joke.

A man is taking his wife to a baseball game, and of course she is running late.

They finally get there during the 7th inning and the score is 0-0.

She turns to him and says, "What are you so angry for? See? We didn';t miss anything!"

281 brainwizard73  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:59:49pm

Get off my side!

282 3 wood  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 12:59:56pm

re: #254 MJ

Yes, but they go blind!

What was that? My eyesight ain't so good...

283 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:00:04pm

re: #273 Render

Ever looked closely at the business end of 12 gauge discarding sabot?

SIX
POINTS,
R

yeah... I try to stay on the OTHER side of firearms...

heh.

284 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:00:06pm

More Zirkle "Republican" ideas.

The standard mantra is that the democrats are for the poor and labor and that the republicans are for the rich and business.

I'm for the middle class.

My economic platform is both pro-business and pro-labor. I want to expand the middle class by placing a constitutional cap on personal wealth at one billion dollars. While kids are starving in Japan and even in the U.S., no one deserves to inherit over a billion dollars.

285 MellyMel  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:00:19pm

re: #246 redstateredneck

Damn carpetbagger!

LOL! Thankfully it was only when I visited family there. I will NOT make the same mistake again lest I feel the wrath of RSR! ;-)

286 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:00:26pm

re: #262 eschew_obfuscation

I think you may be right. I hope so.

287 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:00:33pm

re: #245 3 wood

OT: Umm, hey fellas? Read this:

Study: Masturbation May Prevent Prostate Cancer


No comment.


I'm cool.

288 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:00:37pm

re: #237 Occasional Reader

I'm flattered that you would think so, at least I think I'm flattered. Heh, I don't even know who this Christopher Hedges character is.

289 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:00:40pm

re: #254 MJ

Yes, but they go blind!

Only from sitting too close to the computer screen.

290 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:01:33pm

Considering all we've learned here today, I'd conclude he agrees with the Nationalist part and the Socialist part.

291 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:01:33pm

re: #280 Ben Hur

0-0 @ 57 min.

Which reminds me of a joke.

A man is taking his wife to a baseball game, and of course she is running late.

They finally get there during the 7th inning and the score is 0-0.

She turns to him and says, "What are you so angry for? See? We didn';t miss anything!"

ROFL!


No Welsh woman would ever be late for a rugby match, btw!

292 MJ  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:02:41pm

Spermatorrhea
R.N. Barr


In vain we scan the springs of human woe,
To find a deadlier or more cruel foe
To erring man, than this sad self-pollution,
This damaging wrecker of his constitution.
In its foul march it tramples vigor down,
Darkens the soul, usurps the mental throne,
Prays upon the vitals of its filthy slave,
And drags him early to a hopeless grave.
Could this truth to all be known and foreseen,
A sea of misery would be spared the world,
And hell's own engine from the land be hurled.

The fire of heaven on Onan quickly fell,
Cursed was the culprit ere he sank to hell,
Brief was the period 'twist the noxious deed
And the dread chastisement, pollution's meed.
Just as certain now as then, is the indulger undone,
Not by ethereal stroke as there we see,
Bur equal in effect and certainty,
For death results although by slow degree.

---Published in an 1855 issue of the
Ohio Medical and Surgical Journal.

293 nikis-knight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:03:06pm

re: #270 LanceKates

it is also why the dinosaurs died. Premeditated punishment.

Surely not the T-rex... with those scrawny little arms?

294 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:03:13pm
Zirkle's message doesn't seem to be eliciting much beyond mockery so far this year. Only six people showed up for a recent debate featuring Zirkle, which Puckett skipped. At a discussion board on his campaign Web site, Zirkle is virtually the only author. Less than half of the 11 posts (all started by Zirle) generated any response, and only one other person posted anything at all.


:-)

295 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:03:25pm

re: #284 Silhouette

That is remarkably silly.

Does he suggest that the cap adjust for inflation?

296 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:03:31pm

re: #291 yma o hyd

ROFL!


No Welsh woman would ever be late for a rugby match, btw!

Some "men" wouldn't either!

297 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:03:36pm

re: #293 nikis-knight

Surely not the T-rex... with those scrawny little arms?

Died from prostate cancer

298 Dustoff-507  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:03:39pm

My eyes, my eyes.

It's hard to believe that nuts like him are still out there.

299 Widow'smight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:04:00pm

re: #270 LanceKates


Oils wells that ends well. Or did they decide Oil doesn't come from them now.

300 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:04:05pm

re: #288 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm flattered that you would think so, at least I think I'm flattered. Heh, I don't even know who this Christopher Hedges character is.

He's a reporter/writer. You may or may not recall a story about him from a few years back; he was invited to give a commencement speech at a college (don't recall which), and was literally booed off the stage when he turned it into a "Iraq war is genocide" rant.

He also blatantly lied about seeing IDF soldiers deliberately luring Palestinian children into being shot.

Complete lefty asshat. It is absolutely HI-LARIOUS to see him supporting a Nazi-friendly candidate.

301 Sizzlack  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:04:11pm

What a jackass.
He says he didn't know that there were Nazi sympathizers there?
Yea because when ever I see a massive portrait of Hitler I immediately assume I'm at a breast cancer fundraiser.
WTF?
I mean if the swastikas weren't enough of a giveaway...come on...

302 Shug  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:04:14pm

Larry Craig is safe from prostate cancer

or do you have to masturbate yourself 5 times a week, and not 5 random guys in bathroom stalls ?

303 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:04:43pm

It is confusion on his part if he thinks rank and file republican would want to be tainted by associating with those that associate with Nazis.

This guy is an idiot.

304 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:05:04pm

re: #302 Shug

Larry Craig is safe from prostate cancer

or do you have to masturbate yourself 5 times a week, and not 5 random guys in bathroom stalls ?


5 times a week? Piker.

305 Colonel Panik  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:05:07pm

re: #127 ploome hineni

I am getting happier very year, that I will not live to see the next holocaust

Sadly, I don't think we can count on that one Ploome.
And I don't think the next holocaust will be initiated by comic-opera sturmabteilung wannabees like these idiots.

Those centrifuges in Iran are spinning, spinning, spinning.

306 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:05:09pm

re: #284 Silhouette

More Zirkle "Republican" ideas.

Blimey!

Save the starving Japanese children?
Now I've heard everything ...

307 MJ  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:05:14pm

An Islamic view of Masturbation:

[Link: www.troid.org...]

308 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:05:16pm

re: #294 redstateredneck

:-)

Well pretty much anyone can run in a primary -- but of course he's going to get all the press.

309 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:05:21pm

re: #302 Shug

Larry Craig is safe from prostate cancer

or do you have to masturbate yourself 5 times a week, and not 5 random guys in bathroom stalls ?

Paul Rubens might be able to answer that.

310 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:05:26pm

re: #284 Silhouette

More Zirkle "Republican" ideas.

Starving in Japan. Good platform.

311 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:05:40pm

re: #254 MJ

re: #258 Yashmak

After years of in-depth research, I can assure you that both hypotheses are completely inaccurate. As of yet, I still have no conclusive evidence as to whether or not it makes Jesus cry.

312 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:06:00pm

re: #306 yma o hyd

Blimey!

Save the starving Japanese children?
Now I've heard everything ...

Next he's gonna be bitching about underfed Welsh waifs...

313 3 wood  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:06:01pm

re: #280 Ben Hur

Which reminds me of a joke.

A man is taking his wife to a baseball game, and of course she is running late.

They finally get there during the 7th inning and the score is 0-0.

She turns to him and says, "What are you so angry for? See? We didn';t miss anything!"

I take Mrs. 3 wood to Peoria Chiefs baseball games.

She takes her knitting and works on that all game.

She never watches a pitch, and then tells me what a good time she had when we are driving home after the game.

314 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:06:24pm

re: #293 nikis-knight

Surely not the T-rex... with those scrawny little arms?

heh. No, not the T-rex.

Those were hunted to extinction by Cheney, President Bush and myself.

(Rove invents a time machine in a decade or so, but forgot to bring his rifle... so he can only watch.)

315 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:06:29pm

re: #293 nikis-knight

Surely not the T-rex... with those scrawny little arms?

What if they did it to each other, mutually, like?

316 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:06:47pm

re: #302 Shug

Larry Craig is safe from prostate cancer

or do you have to masturbate yourself 5 times a week, and not 5 random guys in bathroom stalls ?

At least its sex with someone you love...

317 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:07:08pm

re: #315 yma o hyd

So that's where the toe tapping started...

318 joecitizen  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:07:34pm

re: #316 coquimbojoe

At least its sex with someone you love...


what,no props to woody allen?

319 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:07:53pm

re: #315 yma o hyd

What if they did it to each other, mutually, like?

...

*barfs*

320 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:07:55pm

re: #295 Dianna

Adjustment or no, it is insane to want to limit wealth. Wealth = good. And even if it wasn't, it is the start of the wrong path to decide that some amount, whatever that may be, is "too much" for one to keep of their own money. So who takes it? The state. Here be dragons.

321 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:08:08pm

re: #266 Occasional Reader

Render, I must strenuously object to this deeply disturbing post.


Ain't ya never heard of the Mozambique Drill?

"...that's acceptable." LOL I guess SO! Damn!

322 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:08:12pm

re: #316 coquimbojoe

And you never have to say "i'm Sorry" or buy flowers.

323 kellino  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:08:27pm

re: #31 Cartman

Tony Zirkle will be hosting a waffle breakfast on Thursday, April 24th for the Black Panthers and the Jewish Zionists, to entertain feedback and participate in a short question-and-answer session following the waffles.

I wonder if these waffles will also be too tasty to answer a question about Hamas

324 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:08:31pm

Hitler dolls on sale in Ukraine

There's a reason the Nazis used Ukrainians as prison guards.

(countdown for the experts to tell me that's not true 3...2...1...)

325 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:08:44pm

re: #245 3 wood

We beat this to death in the DT thread this morning. The jokes got to be pretty limp after awhile, if you catch my drift.

326 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:09:16pm

re: #320 Silhouette

Adjustment or no, it is insane to want to limit wealth. Wealth = good. And even if it wasn't, it is the start of the wrong path to decide that some amount, whatever that may be, is "too much" for one to keep of their own money. So who takes it? The state. Here be dragons.

Conservatives don't mind if someone else is wealthy.

Liberals hate it when someone else is wealthy.

That's the difference between money and the love of money talked about in scripture.

327 FoolsMate  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:09:16pm
When asked if he was a Nazi or sympathized with Nazis or white supremacists, Zirkle replied he didn't know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it.

The giant-sized poster of Hitler and the swastika armbands are so ambiguous, who could blame him?

/sarc

328 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:09:19pm

Zirkle must have been a graduate of the Midvale School for the Gifted.

329 Dustoff-507  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:09:20pm

re: #314 LanceKates


LOL... Lance, your starting to worry me.

330 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:09:48pm

re: #320 Silhouette

Adjustment or no, it is insane to want to limit wealth. Wealth = good. And even if it wasn't, it is the start of the wrong path to decide that some amount, whatever that may be, is "too much" for one to keep of their own money. So who takes it? The state. Here be dragons.

Do not speak ill of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup!

331 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:09:55pm

re: #329 Dustoff-507

LOL... Lance, your starting to worry me.

Then I won't tell you what REALLY happened to the dodos.

332 cygnus  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:10:20pm

re: #156 Ben Hur

MOO!

The horse farm in Enumclaw, WA was a little too far for him to visit.

333 Widow'smight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:10:22pm

re: #313 3 wood

Just make sure you take your glasses off before demonstrating an Inside the park home run.

334 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:10:32pm

re: #330 eschew_obfuscation

Do not speak ill of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup!

What is that from? A friend of mine from IL sent me that as a text message just a week or so ago.

335 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:10:54pm

re: #214 redstateredneck

I also remind certain DC bloggers that I have been known to either come to the homes of or send others to the homes of blowhards to discuss their inappropriate commentary, and continue that inclination."

"Ladies and gentlemen of the Grand Jury, I recognized the deceased as he entered the approach of my driveway, 300 yards from the ejected casing, and recalling his printed, self-described history of assaulting people in their homes..."

/No Bill.

336 3 wood  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:11:16pm

re: #297 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #293 nikis-knight

Surely not the T-rex... with those scrawny little arms?

Died from prostate cancer

You know, I've always heard that Scotsmen suffer from "short arm and long pocket disease".

I wonder if there is a higher incidence if prostate cancer in Scots.

337 Dustoff-507  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:11:46pm

re: #331 LanceKates


HAHAHA, someone help me off the floor. My gut is killing me.

338 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:11:53pm

re: #134 looking closely

No.

I'd bet your average self-identified "Conservative" has never even heard of Vlaams Belang.

If you look at American politicians on the right emitting the same kind of rhetoric, its a VERY tiny sliver.

There's much, much more of this in the Obama camp.

339 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:12:05pm

re: #334 LanceKates

What is that from? A friend of mine from IL sent me that as a text message just a week or so ago.

It's bastardized from the Hobbit, IIRC. And hey, people speak ill of me all the time. Its ok. :)

340 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:12:36pm

re: #320 Silhouette

Oh, yeah. I was attempting mild sarcasm; I guess I should have added a tag.

341 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:12:42pm

re: #325 Bubblehead II

We beat this to death in the DT thread this morning. The jokes got to be pretty limp after awhile, if you catch my drift.

Actually, this is the third day of beating. Y'all's prostate health ought to be great!

342 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:12:43pm

I'm actually surprised at the number of people who want to toss Zirkle out of the Republican Party because he went to witness to Nazis.

I suppose y'all want to exclude Jesus and all of his followers because he hung out with whores? Fine by me. Y'all don't want me in the Republican party because I'm Christian, so I'll go and not bother you any longer.

343 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:12:51pm

I predict a lot of Nazi rats are going to start crawling out of their holes, now that Barry "Unified America" Obama has made brazen militant racism fashionable and respectable again.

344 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:12:59pm

Old joke:

Larry is sitting at a ballpark, having never heard of or seen baseball before. He sees one guy after another try and hit a ball.

Finally one guy has 4 pitches thrown past him, never swinging. He starts to slowly walk towards first base.

Having THOUGHT he understood the rules about needing to hit the ball, Larry asks someone next to him why he gets to walk, slowly, to first... having not even hit the pitch.

The person next to him says "He's got four balls."

Larry then stands up and shouts "WALK PROUD, MAN! Walk Proud!"

345 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:13:06pm

Time to "pimp" my spinoff. (South Bend Tribune article on Zirkle's Nazi speech)
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

346 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:13:15pm

re: #296 Ben Hur

Some "men" wouldn't either!

[Link: www.liveleak.com...]

Aww - this is why we are punctual:

[url][Link: www.neathrugby.co.uk...]

(Doesn't happen too often, I've gotta say ...)

347 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:13:17pm

re: #324 Ben Hur

Hitler dolls on sale in Ukraine

There's a reason the Nazis used Ukrainians as prison guards.

(countdown for the experts to tell me that's not true 3...2...1...)


It doesn't even look like Hitler. Looks like...?

348 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:13:29pm

re: #334 LanceKates

What is that from? A friend of mine from IL sent me that as a text message just a week or so ago.

I'm not sure of its provenance. I think I first saw it on a bumper sticker next to "Nuke Gay Whales for Jesus".

349 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:13:34pm

re: #316 coquimbojoe

At least its sex with someone you love...

Saw this when it aired live. Hilarious, and on-topic too.

350 debutaunt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:13:36pm

re: #307 MJ

An Islamic view of Masturbation:

[Link: www.troid.org...]

No joy is Islam.

351 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:13:44pm

re: #337 Dustoff-507

HAHAHA, someone help me off the floor. My gut is killing me.

heh. I'm glad I can amuse.

352 TOWM  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:13:46pm

Dang! Can't find the youtube/other video link for the Cheers episode when Woody finally agrees to take a vacation and spends the ENTIRE week in the airport! Dialogue something like:

"Yeah, it was great. I met this guy from India; we laughed for hours about that. You know - he's from India and I'm from Indiana. At least I think that's what he was laughing about..."

/channeling the clueless Tony Zirkle

353 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:14:11pm

re: #339 MrSilverDragon

It's bastardized from the Hobbit, IIRC. And hey, people speak ill of me all the time. Its ok. :)

I imagine, as a Big Silver Dragon, that most people who speak ill of you don't do it in your presence.

354 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:14:54pm

re: #313 3 wood

I take Mrs. 3 wood to Peoria Chiefs baseball games.

She takes her knitting and works on that all game.

She never watches a pitch, and then tells me what a good time she had when we are driving home after the game.

You are a lucky man to have such a wife.

355 Irene NYC  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:15:11pm

re: #324 Ben Hur


There's a reason the Nazis used Ukrainians as prison guards.

(countdown for the experts to tell me that's not true 3...2...1...)

If some 3 million of your fellow countrymen had just been starved to death by the Soviets, I think you too would welcome anybody with open arms who could take on them on. Ben Hur, there's a lot that was going on in that part of the world at that time - I don't believe things were quite so cut and dry as you're making them out.

356 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:15:18pm

Dianna! there you are! You were saying something about the Edmunds act?

What would be a good forum for me to listen to you?

357 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:15:20pm

re: #342 Ecclesiastes

I'm actually surprised at the number of people who want to toss Zirkle out of the Republican Party because he went to witness to Nazis.

I suppose y'all want to exclude Jesus and all of his followers because he hung out with whores? Fine by me. Y'all don't want me in the Republican party because I'm Christian, so I'll go and not bother you any longer.

No, the point isn't that he was being a christian... but that he's a racist, associating with racists and trying to pass it off as simple ignorance.

He is perverting christianity and you ought to be releasing your venom at him... not us for showing his racist ways.

358 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:15:21pm

re: #347 NoSubmission

It doesn't even look like Hitler. Looks like...?


Not me!

359 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:15:30pm

re: #342 Ecclesiastes

I'm actually surprised at the number of people who want to toss Zirkle out of the Republican Party because he went to witness to Nazis.

I suppose y'all want to exclude Jesus and all of his followers because he hung out with whores? Fine by me. Y'all don't want me in the Republican party because I'm Christian, so I'll go and not bother you any longer.

um..sarc?

360 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:15:35pm

welll...shit! This clown is most probably more white supremicist than evangelical, but that's just a guess...

It just sickens me when idiots like this do things in the name of "Christianity"...

361 cygnus  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:15:38pm

re: #228 LanceKates

Nah, he's no racist. See? He wants to give blacks 6 whole states to run around in!

*smirk*

douche.

Too bad we can't segregrate him to Azkeban.

362 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:15:39pm

re: #353 LanceKates

Are you saying I'm FAT?!?!

/snicker

363 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:16:03pm

re: #348 eschew_obfuscation

I'm not sure of its provenance. I think I first saw it on a bumper sticker next to "Nuke Gay Whales for Jesus".

figures you wouldn't know... Do you even HAVE a degree in electrical engineering? HMMM?!1!eleventy!

364 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:16:03pm

re: #348 eschew_obfuscation

I thought it was, "Shave the Gay Baby Whales"?

365 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:16:16pm

re: #341 redstateredneck

Have had modem problems. Only been able to lurk from work and very little at that. Things appear to be better now.

366 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:16:22pm

Target-rich environment.

367 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:16:37pm

re: #284 Silhouette

The convergence between the sympathizers with National Socialism and the sympathizers with international socialism! Indeed.

368 MeatPopsicle  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:16:39pm

Illinois Nazis!
...I hate Illinois Nazis

---
What a clueless idiot p.o.s.

Speaking and meeting with nazi socialists justifies them.

369 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:17:01pm

re: #330 eschew_obfuscation

Do not speak ill of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup!

Och, ours just goes for plain barbeque ...:

[Link: www.freefoto.com...]

370 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:17:08pm

He must be a Darwinist.

371 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:17:12pm

re: #361 cygnus

Too bad we can't segregrate him to Azkeban.

why punish the evil wizards with his presence?

372 paybacktime  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:17:26pm

These nazi SWINE revere the SHITler who declared War on the US on December 11, 1941 and after the cost of 400K+ American lives, SURRENDERED UNCONDTIONALLY on May 7, 1945 to the US, UK and Soviet Union?

They're probably MORon Paul boosters too.

373 3 wood  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:17:27pm

re: #354 Slumbering Behemoth

You are a lucky man to have such a wife.

God blessed me with her. I married waaay over my head.

374 VegasRick  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:17:30pm

re: #342 Ecclesiastes

I'm actually surprised at the number of people who want to toss Zirkle out of the Republican Party because he went to witness to Nazis.

I suppose y'all want to exclude Jesus and all of his followers because he hung out with whores? Fine by me. Y'all don't want me in the Republican party because I'm Christian, so I'll go and not bother you any longer.

What are you talking about?

375 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:17:34pm

re: #362 MrSilverDragon

Are you saying I'm FAT?!?!

/snicker

Not to your face!

I mean...

aww crap, you're gonna eat me, aren't you?

376 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:17:42pm

"Who's the guy in the picture, with the funny mustache?"

- Tony Zirkle

377 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:17:44pm

re: #342 Ecclesiastes

Talk about missing the point. Sheesh!

378 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:17:48pm
at an event over the weekend that celebrated Adolf Hitler’s birthday.

By the way, Illinois Nazis, this just in: Adolf Hitler is still dead.

BWAAAHAHAHAHA

379 cygnus  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:18:02pm

re: #245 3 wood

OT: Umm, hey fellas? Read this:

Study: Masturbation May Prevent Prostate Cancer

No comment.

Good grief, did they keep a journal on that? With dates and times? Ewww.

380 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:18:17pm

More Zirkle. The humor/horror just keeps on coming.

My first choice would be to provide greater economic/military/law enforcement ties with Mexico. We should have a police officer exchange so that our officers can help them with corruption and they can assist us with discrimination. We could then look to the European Union for guidance

Get that? Our people could clean up all their corruption that they can't seem to stop; meanwhile, they'd come up here and tell us what bigots we are.

But I love the part about looking to the EU for guidance.

381 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:18:19pm

re: #342 Ecclesiastes

Y'all don't want me in the Republican party because I'm Christian, so I'll go and not bother you any longer.


I rest my case.

382 Fasternu426  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:18:25pm

He should watch this. It's on his level!

383 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:18:42pm

re: #342 Ecclesiastes

I'm actually surprised at the number of people who want to toss Zirkle out of the Republican Party because he went to witness to Nazis.

I suppose y'all want to exclude Jesus and all of his followers because he hung out with whores? Fine by me. Y'all don't want me in the Republican party because I'm Christian, so I'll go and not bother you any longer.

Jesus did not 'hang out" with whores.

Good grief.

This guy Zirkle is Not the real deal, Ecclesiastes. Don't be naive. or so petulant.

384 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:18:45pm

re: #377 Slumbering Behemoth

Talk about missing the point. Sheesh!

not just missing the point, but being in another time zone.

385 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:19:03pm

re: #342 Ecclesiastes

I'm actually surprised at the number of people who want to toss Zirkle out of the Republican Party because he went to witness to Nazis.

I suppose y'all want to exclude Jesus and all of his followers because he hung out with whores? Fine by me. Y'all don't want me in the Republican party because I'm Christian, so I'll go and not bother you any longer.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass, etc.

386 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:19:16pm

re: #355 Irene NYC

If some 3 million of your fellow countrymen had just been starved to death by the Soviets, I think you too would welcome anybody with open arms who could take on them on. Ben Hur, there's a lot that was going on in that part of the world at that time - I don't believe things were quite so cut and dry as you're making them out.

The Ukrainian Nazis were the chosen camp guards becuase of their "toughness" and comitment to their jobs.

Were ALL Ukrainians camp guards? NO.

WEre they the preferred stock? Yes.

387 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:19:17pm

re: #355 Irene NYC

8 million, at least.

Though the Soviets were very clever about not registering the deaths.

The Ukrainians were devastated by Stalin, several times. Conquest has a short book, Stalin: Breaker of Nations that covers, in summary, what was done by Stalin and his regime to many nationalities in the former Soviet Union.

388 Irene NYC  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:19:17pm

re: #342 Ecclesiastes


I'm actually surprised at the number of people who want to toss Zirkle out of the Republican Party because he went to witness to Nazis.

I suppose y'all want to exclude Jesus and all of his followers because he hung out with whores? Fine by me. Y'all don't want me in the Republican party because I'm Christian, so I'll go and not bother you any longer.

Whores don't commit genocide. Nazis do.

As for your crying about the Repubs not wanting Christians, where did that come from? Buck up, we're all in this together, Christians or not. No one has asked Christians to leave.

389 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:19:31pm

re: #342 Ecclesiastes

I'm actually surprised at the number of people who want to toss Zirkle out of the Republican Party because he went to witness to Nazis.

I suppose y'all want to exclude Jesus and all of his followers because he hung out with whores? Fine by me. Y'all don't want me in the Republican party because I'm Christian, so I'll go and not bother you any longer.

I don't think people here would be upset at anyone sharing their faith in the hopes of changing hearts from evil towards good. There is just really no evidence that this is what is happening here. The man is running for political office, and it is apparent from his website that not only is he a nut, but also that he has little or no support from the community. What he is doing is not witnessing, it is pandering.

and any Christian with a brain in their head would know that photos of one in giving a speech in front of a picture of Hitler would not only be stupid, but it would also smear the good name of our Lord.

390 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:19:36pm

re: #346 yma o hyd

Aww - this is why we are punctual:

[url][Link: www.neathrugby.co.uk...]

(Doesn't happen too often, I've gotta say ...)

My bad - got the totally wrong url ...


(Puts a bag over her head and creeps off, sobbing quietly ...)

391 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:19:39pm

re: #342 Ecclesiastes

Um, dude, put down the crack pipe. He did a lot more than just witness Nazis. Had he only done that, he'd not be in this pickle. He took them up on an invite to speak and celebrate Hitler's birthday. In no way what-so-ever is that similar to Christ being around prostitutes.

IIRC, Christ asked the prostitutes to sin no more. I did not hear nor read of Zirkle doing that.

392 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:19:55pm

re: #363 LanceKates

figures you wouldn't know... Do you even HAVE a degree in electrical engineering? HMMM?!1!eleventy!

Hey! At least I didn't presume to speak concerning subjects on which I am clearly unqulified to propound!

393 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:19:57pm

Paint-right,

I'm not being any more sarcastic than any body jumping on Zirkle's case.

Obviously, y'all don't like Christians.

394 nikis-knight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:19:59pm

re: #342 Ecclesiastes

I'm actually surprised at the number of people who want to toss Zirkle out of the Republican Party because he went to witness to Nazis.

I suppose y'all want to exclude Jesus and all of his followers because he hung out with whores? Fine by me. Y'all don't want me in the Republican party because I'm Christian, so I'll go and not bother you any longer.

Meeting with one person who has NAZI ties to tell them Jesus died for them, so repent and ask forgiveness. = good
Speaking at a Nazi event for any reason = legitimizing murderous hate

Doing so as a political candidate gives your party ties to such groups if you are elected.

(preaching is not the job of politicians, anyway, even wanna-bes like this creep)

395 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:20:09pm

re: #370 Killgore Trout

He must be a Darwinist.


SOCIAL Darwinist?

Why yes he is.

396 Ojoe  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:20:16pm

Zirkle SOB

The Republicans had better kick him out.

397 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:20:23pm

re: #365 Bubblehead II

Have had modem problems. Only been able to lurk from work and very little at that. Things appear to be better now.

LOL I thought you said "modern' problems.

/don't we all!

398 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:20:26pm

re: #381 Killgore Trout

I rest my case.

Don't rest your case. that's too easy.

399 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:20:27pm

re: #356 Ecclesiastes

Edmunds Act - that's the 1890 law outlawing bigamy that Utah had to agree to? We are on the same page, right?

400 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:20:32pm

re: #342 Ecclesiastes

I'm actually surprised at the number of people who want to toss Zirkle out of the Republican Party because he went to witness to Nazis.

I suppose y'all want to exclude Jesus and all of his followers because he hung out with whores? Fine by me. Y'all don't want me in the Republican party because I'm Christian, so I'll go and not bother you any longer.

Speaking only for myself, if you are a Jew-hating, black-hating, swastika-wearing, neo-Nazi white supremacist moron, I would rather you left the Republican party, even if you think you're a Christian.

Zirkle is. You?

401 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:20:41pm

re: #393 Ecclesiastes

Paint-right,

I'm not being any more sarcastic than any body jumping on Zirkle's case.

Obviously, y'all don't like Christians.

Are you a moby?

402 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:21:09pm

re: #380 Silhouette

More Zirkle. The humor/horror just keeps on coming.

Get that? Our people could clean up all their corruption that they can't seem to stop; meanwhile, they'd come up here and tell us what bigots we are.

But I love the part about looking to the EU for guidance.

That quote:
"We could then look to the European Union for guidance"
proves that he's insane!

403 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:21:11pm

re: #392 eschew_obfuscation

Hey! At least I didn't presume to speak concerning subjects on which I am clearly unqulified to propound!

like the government telling me what kind of light bulbs I'm allowed to have in my home?

Or talking about beer?

wait... are you drinking beer as you administer the electrical grid of the entire eastern seaboard?

404 cygnus  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:21:13pm

re: #276 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LMAO! And for how many years were you grounded after that comment?

405 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:21:34pm

re: #393 Ecclesiastes

Paint-right,

I'm not being any more sarcastic than any body jumping on Zirkle's case.

Obviously, y'all don't like Christians.

Those wiley christians! Let's HATE them!

wait... I am one... crap.

406 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:21:35pm

re: #393 Ecclesiastes

Obviously, y'all don't like Christians.

Obviously, you're too stupid to be trusted with an electric stapler.

407 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:21:42pm

re: #379 cygnus

Good grief, did they keep a journal on that? With dates and times? Ewww.


probably a bit smudged / and or sticky. How'd you like to be the clinician collecting that data?...

408 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:21:59pm

re: #383 paint-right

Jesus did not 'hang out" with whores.


That's that dissing of Mary Magdalene thing. Where does it say in the Bible that she was a whore?
NO WHERE! ! !

409 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:22:07pm

re: #407 paxnhymn

probably a bit smudged / and or sticky. How'd you like to be the clinician collecting that data?...

{ shudder }

410 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:22:26pm

re: #401 mama winger

Are you a moby?

I believe the word you're looking for is dumbass

411 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:22:26pm

re: #393 Ecclesiastes

Paint-right,

I'm not being any more sarcastic than any body jumping on Zirkle's case.

Obviously, y'all don't like Christians.

I'm speechless.

412 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:22:31pm

re: #342 Ecclesiastes
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quote

I'm actually surprised at the number of people who want to toss Zirkle out of the Republican Party because he went to witness to Nazis.

I suppose y'all want to exclude Jesus and all of his followers because he hung out with whores? Fine by me. Y'all don't want me in the Republican party because I'm Christian, so I'll go and not bother you any longer.

It's okay if he wants to do that (try to convert their hearts) as an average Joe, but as a congressional candidate, it just looks stupid.

When asked if he was a Nazi or sympathized with Nazis or white supremacists, Zirkle replied he didn’t know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it. “This is just a great opportunity for me to witness,” he said, referring to his message and his Christian belief.

He is incredibly naive.

413 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:22:38pm

re: #401 mama winger

Are you a moby?

seems to be, obviously capitalizing on the stink regarding people 'piling on Zombie'

414 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:23:00pm

re: #406 Occasional Reader

Obviously, you're too stupid to be trusted with an electric stapler.

Get your hands off my office supplies.

415 Ben-Ami  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:23:03pm

re: #10 bulwrk

I hate Indiana Nazis.

There are Nazis you like?

416 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:23:09pm

Dianna,

Yes, exactly.

417 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:23:10pm

Electric stapler?

Is that how deep American sloth has become?!?!?!

418 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:23:14pm

re: #412 Ward Cleaver

javascript:void(0)
quote

He is incredibly naive.

or hopes that we are

419 sabraguy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:23:29pm

re: #106 ploome hineni

do you believe this?

[Link: www.tonyzirkle.com...]

He's a serious fruitcake. His CV looks highly supsicious to me. He never seems to stay more than about a year at any one law firm. Probably takes that long for folks to find out he's barking mad. I particularly liked these bits:

Masters in Divinity Degree Candidate
G.P.A. 3.7. Commenced in June 1998, 2 tests from completion(!)
Delivered Seminary Chapel Sermon: June 2000

Wow he nearly got a degree in divinity and delivered a sermon! He's almost a fucking saint.

420 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:23:45pm

re: #417 Ben Hur

Electric stapler?

Is that how deep American sloth has become?!?!?!

Nah, we have printer/copiers that do the stapling for us.

421 Irene NYC  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:23:53pm

re: #387 Dianna

I was using the lowest number of 3 million - but I personally think that it was probably over 8 million - and that the Ukraine has never recovered from it.

422 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:24:01pm

re: #408 redstateredneck

That's that dissing of Mary Magdalene thing. Where does it say in the Bible that she was a whore?
NO WHERE! ! !

Very true. A common misconception.

But I digress.

LEAVE MY STAPLER ALONE !

423 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:24:23pm

re: #422 mama winger

Very true. A common misconception.

But I digress.

LEAVE MY STAPLER ALONE !

Can I touch your stapler?

424 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:24:24pm

The man is nuts.

According to this article, Zirkle's middle name is HVFVGPD, which stands for: “Homeless Vet Fluke Versus The Great Porn Dragon.”

425 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:24:29pm

re: #393 Ecclesiastes

I'm not being any more sarcastic than any body jumping on Zirkle's case.

Obviously, y'all don't like Christians.

So now calling out potential nazi sympathizers is equivalent to christian bashing?

I am beginning to questions your motives.

426 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:24:33pm

re: #389 mama winger

I don't think people here would be upset at anyone sharing their faith in the hopes of changing hearts from evil towards good. There is just really no evidence that this is what is happening here. The man is running for political office, and it is apparent from his website that not only is he a nut, but also that he has little or no support from the community. What he is doing is not witnessing, it is pandering.

and any Christian with a brain in their head would know that photos of one in giving a speech in front of a picture of Hitler would not only be stupid, but it would also smear the good name of our Lord.

I agree, and I have a feeling we are going to be seeing more from this nutball in the future. Looks like he's aspiring to be ... something...

Maybe he wants to be the next gen Fred Phelps or something.

427 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:24:34pm

re: #417 Ben Hur

Electric stapler?

Is that how deep American sloth has become?!?!?!

yes. I'm even annoyed when doors don't spring open at my approach!

428 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:24:43pm

re: #420 LanceKates

And interns to use those machines for us...

429 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:25:05pm

re: #393 Ecclesiastes

Paint-right,

I'm not being any more sarcastic than any body jumping on Zirkle's case.

Obviously, y'all don't like Christians.

Bullshit. Speaking as a Christian (Catholic, specifically), the discussion has nothing to do with Zirkle's Christianity. It has to do with the fact he went and celebrated a madman's birthday with a bunch of fascists.

Get your facts straight before you comment.

430 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:25:08pm

re: #245 3 wood

OT: Umm, hey fellas? Read this:

Study: Masturbation May Prevent Prostate Cancer

No comment.

So the Kos Kidz will never have to worry about prostate cancer? That's nice.

431 nikis-knight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:25:13pm

re: #393 Ecclesiastes

Paint-right,

I'm not being any more sarcastic than any body jumping on Zirkle's case.

Obviously, y'all don't like Christians.

Some of us'all are.

432 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:25:14pm

re: #401 mama winger

Are you a moby?

Sure smells like blubber, or like someone who forgot a /sarctag.

433 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:25:31pm

re: #423 LanceKates

Can I touch your stapler?

I'm too old for you Lance. But Occasional Reader may be interested. :)

434 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:25:37pm

I once saw a female co-worker hit another female co-worker upside the head with a stapler. Looked like it hurt like hell.

435 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:25:46pm

re: #427 paint-right

yes. I'm even annoyed when doors don't spring open at my approach!

ok... so I went to a grocery store and the automatic doors were not working correctly.

people were not only annoyed, but some of them were grumbling about the grocery store's worth if they had to OPEN DOORS on their own.

436 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:25:46pm

re: #393 Ecclesiastes

Paint-right,

I'm not being any more sarcastic than any body jumping on Zirkle's case.

Obviously, y'all don't like Christians.

I am an evangilical Christian, and I damn dure don't like what Zirkle did! If he was witnessing, that's done one on one, if he's preaching, that's from a pulpit. The Christ model would be for him to call them down for their racial hatred and repent. This was a show to his pro-white supremicist tendencies...period.

ohh..I'm also lilly white ...and I still don't like him.

437 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:25:56pm

re: #403 LanceKates

like the government telling me what kind of light bulbs I'm allowed to have in my home?

Or talking about beer?

wait... are you drinking beer as you administer the electrical grid of the entire eastern seaboard?

Please do not presume to limit my administration to the tiny, little eastern seaboard.

BTW...quit whining about your silly light bulbs and buy a Prius...I'm introducing the legislation as we speak.

438 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:26:01pm

re: #412 Ward Cleaver

He is incredibly naive.

I hoped so at first. But reading his thoughts on segregation, he is a bigot. He a socialist too.

439 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:26:09pm

re: #428 Athos

Not to mention middle management to boss around those interns so we don't have to.

440 debutaunt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:26:19pm

re: #406 Occasional Reader

Obviously, you're too stupid to be trusted with an electric stapler.

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

441 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:26:31pm

My electric stapler of course uses a hydrogen fuel cell, in order to save the planet.

442 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:26:43pm

re: #415 Ben-Ami

There are Nazis you like?


It's a paraphrase from Blues Brothers

443 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:26:46pm

re: #393 Ecclesiastes

Seriously. Bullshit.

Zirkle ain't Christian, wasn't "witnessing," and does not deserve your speaking on his behalf.

He's a fuckin neo-nazi.

Godwins Law does not apply.

STRAIGHTEN
UP,
R

444 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:26:53pm

re: #433 mama winger

I'm too old for you Lance. But Occasional Reader may be interested. :)

I'm afraid, much to OR's dismay, that I'm not gay.

445 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:27:02pm

Whoops, just saw the other comment. I vote for calling Starbuck

446 UFO TOFU  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:27:10pm

re: #392 eschew_obfuscation
Lance is definitely not qualified to talk about beer.

447 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:27:12pm

re: #424 Ringo the Gringo

The man is nuts.

According to this article, Zirkle's middle name is HVFVGPD, which stands for: “Homeless Vet Fluke Versus The Great Porn Dragon.”

Golly Moses ! That's MY middle name too!

How ironic is that?

448 Ben-Ami  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:27:21pm

re: #393 Ecclesiastes

Paint-right,

I'm not being any more sarcastic than any body jumping on Zirkle's case.

Obviously, y'all don't like Christians.

I call "bullshit" on this. No one is this thick.

449 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:27:23pm
450 MJ  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:27:44pm

re: #441 Occasional Reader

My electric stapler of course uses a hydrogen fuel cell, in order to save the planet.

I recycle used staples.

451 The_Vig  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:27:47pm

I would never vote for anyone that is anti porn.


...Oh yea, or a NAZI.

452 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:27:51pm

Only nuclear powered staplers are truly sustainable.

453 CheatyPantsMcSweatervest  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:27:55pm

His site had this video under: What America is becoming

I for one welcome our scorpion-play enthusiast pop tart overlords!

454 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:28:09pm

re: #437 eschew_obfuscation

Please do not presume to limit my administration to the tiny, little eastern seaboard.

BTW...quit whining about your silly light bulbs and buy a Prius...I'm introducing the legislation as we speak.

Good luck getting me (to fit) in one of those tin cans.

455 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:28:12pm

re: #436 paxnhymn

I am an evangilical Christian, and I damn dure don't like what Zirkle did! If he was witnessing, that's done one on one, if he's preaching, that's from a pulpit. The Christ model would be for him to call them down for their racial hatred and repent. This was a show to his pro-white supremicist tendencies...period.

Amen. I've talked to some marginal types in my life as well, but never so as to bring disgrace upon the name of the Lord.

456 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:28:14pm

re: #408 redstateredneck

Perhaps he's thinking of the woman at the well, who'd had five husbands, or the woman taken in adultery, or the repentant harlot who washed Jesus' feet with her tears, wiped them with her hair, and then poured spikenard on them?

As I recall, people criticized Jesus for eating with tax collectors and publicans, not for hanging out with whores. Though I admit it's been a few years since I last read the gospels.

457 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:28:15pm

re: #438 Silhouette

I hoped so at first. But reading his thoughts on segregation, he is a bigot. He a socialist too.

He's a kook. Hopefully he gets slaughtered in the primary.

458 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:28:19pm

re: #318 joecitizen

what,no props to woody allen?

Is that his line? Then to paraphase a man named Woody...

459 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:28:19pm

Bohemoth,

I'm sorry, I didn't see where Zirkle expressed any opinion on Nazi philosophy. I do know that if one is to witness to sinners, then one has to go where they are.

460 Fasternu426  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:28:29pm

re: #342 Ecclesiastes

I'm actually surprised at the number of people who want to toss Zirkle out of the Republican Party because he went to witness to Nazis.

I suppose y'all want to exclude Jesus and all of his followers because he hung out with whores? Fine by me. Y'all don't want me in the Republican party because I'm Christian, so I'll go and not bother you any longer.

Christ preached to the prostitutes, he didn't jump in the sack with them. This is what knucklehead here did.

But, if there was cake, why not?
/

461 NoSubmission  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:28:37pm

Why can't I just finish my stapling?

462 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:28:38pm

re: #438 Silhouette

I hoped so at first. But reading his thoughts on segregation, he is a bigot. He a socialist too.

Hmm. A nationalist & a socialist. Now what are those people called again...

463 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:28:40pm

re: #447 mama winger

Golly Moses ! That's MY middle name too!

LOL... and, as luck what have it, "Golly Moses" is MY middle name. This is just getting curiouser and curiouser.

464 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:28:45pm

re: #446 UFO TOFU

Lance is definitely not qualified to talk about beer.

lol... Exactly! I know more about spore mold.

465 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:29:03pm

re: #444 LanceKates

I'm afraid, much to OR's dismay, that I'm not gay.

You just have a wide stance
/zing!

466 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:29:06pm

Fan the Flames!

Saying "he's not Christian" is like when CAIR says Islamic terrorists aren't Muslims because a "real" Muslim wouldn't do that.

Discuss.

Disclaimer: Ben Hur does not agree with or endorse the above statement, but the left does.

We purge these animals, we don't name public squares and parks after them.

467 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:29:42pm

re: #452 Silhouette

Sshhh, according to the CIA, that's what Ahmawhackjob is building. He wants to corner the market for when oil runs out.

468 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:29:55pm

I have an eclectic stapler, does that count?

469 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:30:00pm

re: #441 Occasional Reader

My electric stapler of course uses a hydrogen fuel cell, in order to save the planet.

I believe you have my stapler.

470 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:30:24pm

re: #466 Ben Hur

We purge these animals, we don't name public squares and parks after them.

So I guess "Zirkle City" is completely out of the question?

471 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:30:28pm

Hey, my name keeps getting associated with ecclesiastes' quote.

i call BS on him/her too, remember.

and on Zirkle as well.

This is wierdness squared!

472 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:30:41pm

re: #459 Ecclesiastes

Bohemoth,

I'm sorry, I didn't see where Zirkle expressed any opinion on Nazi philosophy. I do know that if one is to witness to sinners, then one has to go where they are.

I agree, but I think he's just using that as cover, now that he's been busted.

473 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:30:43pm

re: #459 Ecclesiastes

Bohemoth,

I'm sorry, I didn't see where Zirkle expressed any opinion on Nazi philosophy. I do know that if one is to witness to sinners, then one has to go where they are.

Please review his website. It was linked above.

474 debutaunt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:30:56pm

re: #450 MJ

I recycle used staples.

You must have a very tiny recycle container.

475 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:31:00pm

re: #459 Ecclesiastes

Bohemoth,

I'm sorry, I didn't see where Zirkle expressed any opinion on Nazi philosophy. I do know that if one is to witness to sinners, then one has to go where they are.

Who are you really, Paul Belien or one of the nuts from Gates of Vienna?

476 The_Vig  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:31:01pm

It's not that he witnessed to Nazi's, which is fine. It's that he witnessed to them about porn, nothing about racial hatred. I think you should always start with the greater evil and move on to the smaller evils.

477 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:31:18pm

re: #459 Ecclesiastes

Bohemoth,

I'm sorry, I didn't see where Zirkle expressed any opinion on Nazi philosophy. I do know that if one is to witness to sinners, then one has to go where they are.

Uh... yeah... he said he didn't know enough about the Nazi party to condemn it.

Seems to me that the holocaust ought to provide sufficent information for condemnation.

There is also the link in 192 that redstate provided, in which he calls upon blacks to get 6 states and whites to get the rest. Segregation, you see, is a hallmark of neo-nazi white supremacy scum.

He gave a speech about the affects of porn on WHITE teens, while at a celebratory meeting for Adolf Hitler's birthday... in front of a nazi party group.

No, he is not 'going where sinners are' to confront them. He is going where he is comfortable, to join them.

478 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:31:21pm

They'll get my stapler when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.

479 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:31:24pm

re: #470 Occasional Reader

So I guess "Zirkle City" is completely out of the question?

I like 'Zircle Square'. More poetic. Also game show-esque.

480 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:31:26pm

#401 mamma winger

I think it's a moby.

And I think a good, hard GAZE might be in order.

481 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:31:36pm

re: #416 Ecclesiastes

Well, I'm waiting for lunch, but I'm at the office. As I recall, the actual question was whether the State has an interest in marriage. I said yes, but you didn't think so.

Generally, I hang out either Tuesday evening or Thursday evening - but it does depend on the Male of the Species, and what he'd like to do. If you catch me, though, I'll be happy to discuss it. At work, I'd be limited to what I can google.

482 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:32:05pm

CHARLES, PUHLEEEZE DO AN UPDATE WITH THE CHRIS HEDGES ENDORSEMENT FOR ZIRKLE THAT SLUMBERING BEHEMOTH LINKED TO IN #216! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

483 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:32:12pm

I think the fact that he knows nothing about Nazism, but knows Zionists are a threat, speaks volumes...

484 cygnus  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:32:17pm

re: #371 LanceKates

why punish the evil wizards with his presence?

He could fill in for one of the dementors.

485 CheatyPantsMcSweatervest  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:32:28pm

What's up with all the Nazis in Illinois?

486 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:32:35pm

re: #466 Ben Hur

There are far fewer ACTUAL Christians who are racist than ACTUAL racists pretending to be Christians.

487 Irene NYC  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:32:44pm

re: #386 Ben Hur

What's your point? That the Nazis were able to find sadistic Ukrainians - most probably from jails or other criminal or psychotic elements? Nazis found sick people to help them with their genocide of the Jews in every country that they invaded - France, Holland, Poland, etc., etc., etc.

488 Ma Sands  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:32:53pm

re: #393 Ecclesiastes

Obviously, y'all don't like Christians.


I take it, by the nic you have chosen, that you yourself are a Christian...then I think you can understand what I am about to say:

Are we not called to receive the hard knocks as from His hand? And to keep right on speaking what the Holy Spirit uses our tongue for, if we but let Him...? :) It gets easier as you try such a thing...even though the knocks usually do get harder...He does work that way, you know... :)

489 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:33:13pm

re: #486 LanceKates

There are far fewer ACTUAL Christians who are racist than ACTUAL racists pretending to be Christians.

Dinged ya up for that one, Lance!

490 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:33:16pm

re: #479 mama winger

I like 'Zircle Square'. More poetic. Also game show-esque.

I doff my hat. Very nice.

491 infidel Alan  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:33:20pm

re: #424 Ringo the Gringo

Yes, clearly Zirkle's picnic basket is short a couple of sandwiches.

492 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:33:25pm

re: #459 Ecclesiastes

Bohemoth,

I'm sorry, I didn't see where Zirkle expressed any opinion on Nazi philosophy. I do know that if one is to witness to sinners, then one has to go where they are.


and if has the DUTY to admonish them in love...which he DIDn't do and had no intention of doing or he would've done it, then this wouldn't even be a news story...the lack of admonishment is intentional because they are kindred spirits!

493 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:33:27pm

re: #421 Irene NYC

I don't know that they've never recovered, but it's certainly a factor - it's the main reason they demanded their independence from Russia, for one thing.

494 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:34:05pm

re: #484 cygnus

He could fill in for one of the dementors.

If the dementors poo, he ought to be in charge of cleaning it up.

After a few years, they can give him gloves and a shovel.

495 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:34:18pm

re: #480 TalkinKamel

#401 mamma winger

I think it's a moby.

And I think a good, hard GAZE might be in order.

I think you may be right on that.

I will GAZE. But it's hard with only one eyeball. and a rusty stapler.

496 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:34:30pm
497 marsouin  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:34:41pm

Zirkle sounds just like Obama: I may hang out with them, but it don't mean I have anything to do with them or agree with them.

Yeah, right.

498 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:34:45pm

re: #424 Ringo the Gringo

The man is nuts.

According to this article, Zirkle's middle name is HVFVGPD, which stands for: “Homeless Vet Fluke Versus The Great Porn Dragon.”

According to the article, he's going to "debate himself." Which means he probably won't get prostate cancer.

499 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:35:07pm

re: #492 paxnhymn

exactly. I mean, this poster could MAYBE have a case if he talked about how bad racism is, instead of talking about the affects of porn on WHITE teens...

and calling for segregation...

500 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:35:18pm

re: #218 Silhouette

I found it! I found the reason he is as insanely stupid as he is

I hope you'll forgive me for the lack of organization and what may appear to be loose associations. I'm still working on processing the massive amount of info that was put into my brain in 12-13 years of college course work.
Best wishes and Peace,

Tony Zirkle

Oh.
I didn't realize he is ALSO a brain surgeon.

/

501 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:35:18pm

re: #496 buzzsawmonkey

I didn't read that this loon "witnessed to" Nazis. He was witnessed speaking to Nazis. On Hitler's Birthday. And when interviewed, he pleaded a level of ignorance which, if true, wholly unfits him for the job he is seeking--while at the same time using some extraordinarily Nazi-esque talking points in a most disingenuous manner.

Whackjob, liar, and creep--and no matter how much he claims to be "a Christian," those things trump whatever faith he may actually lay claim to.

Amen, mister. Well said.

502 nikis-knight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:35:36pm

re: #459 Ecclesiastes

Bohemoth,

I'm sorry, I didn't see where Zirkle expressed any opinion on Nazi philosophy. I do know that if one is to witness to sinners, then one has to go where they are.

How about showing up at Hitler's birthday party? That certainly implies an opinion.

503 turn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:35:49pm

Quote from his website:

"In sum, my theory of the case is that a dollar vote for porn in one generation is equal to 2 votes for war and jihad in the next, yet we'll not give up murders, thefts, drugs, and porn. 66:9:15. The hippies gave us Generation X. Gen X, thanks to Clinton, skipped right over XX and spawned Generation XXX. The jihadist will never tolerate what Gen. XXX will sire. That should keep the snarky bloggers in business. Someone has to stimulate this economy."

All that came to mind when I read that was buzzsawmonkey's comment

"Will it go 'round in Zirkles
Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky?"

Seriously I think this guy is crazy, I'll let the snarky bloggers take it from there.

504 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:36:23pm

re: #502 nikis-knight

How about showing up at Hitler's birthday party? That certainly implies an opinion.

Nah, LOTS of people share his birthday... clearly just a coincidence!

/

505 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:36:29pm

re: #495 mama winger

I think you may be right on that.

I will GAZE. But it's hard with only one eyeball. and a rusty stapler.

reminds me..I bought an antique ( well, oldish) stapler at the church tag sale and it WORKs perfectly and is also adorable

like a dial telephone

506 cygnus  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:36:33pm

re: #407 paxnhymn

probably a bit smudged / and or sticky. How'd you like to be the clinician collecting that data?...

Mouthwash and shower, please!

507 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:37:05pm

You know... how wierd it must feel, now that I mentioned it, to share a birthday with Hitler.

Do you celebrate your birthday?

...

I think I'd celebrate it on a different day, treat it as though I was born on Leap Year or something.

508 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:37:28pm

re: #477 LanceKates

Uh... yeah... he said he didn't know enough about the Nazi party to condemn it.

Seems to me that the holocaust ought to provide sufficent information for condemnation.

There is also the link in 192 that redstate provided, in which he calls upon blacks to get 6 states and whites to get the rest. Segregation, you see, is a hallmark of neo-nazi white supremacy scum.

He gave a speech about the affects of porn on WHITE teens, while at a celebratory meeting for Adolf Hitler's birthday... in front of a nazi party group.

No, he is not 'going where sinners are' to confront them. He is going where he is comfortable, to join them.

I don't want to go to his site.
Does he give any states to Jews? Or just special shower facilities?

509 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:37:31pm

re: #459 Ecclesiastes

By the company you keep...

Witnessing to an organized gathering of neo-nazis celebrating hitler's birthday? One should have much better judgment than that.

I think Zirkle is trying to play people for fools by saying he went to this function to "witness", and that he does not/did not know that nazi is the acronym for national socialist worker's party.

It appears his cellophane gambit has worked on you, though.

EPIC FAIL

510 Ben-Ami  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:37:45pm

My favorite part of the article is where he pointed out that they weren't Nazis, but members of the Nationalist Socialist Workers Party.

511 rumcrook  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:37:47pm

at first I thought this guy is so obtuse he operates in an alternate reality, but all I can think now is I hope this ended his political carreer. his moral relativism in making the comparison between nazis who want to kill jews by the millions, and jews wanting to have a reconstituted homeland where they wont be subjected to the whims of nazis who want to kill them by the millions is staggering.

512 CheatyPantsMcSweatervest  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:37:54pm

re: #498 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

According to the article, he's going to "debate himself." Which means he probably won't get prostate cancer.

clearly a member of the silly party


/Monty Python

513 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:37:56pm

re: #456 Dianna

Perhaps he's thinking of the woman at the well, who'd had five husbands, or the woman taken in adultery, or the repentant harlot who washed Jesus' feet with her tears, wiped them with her hair, and then poured spikenard on them?

As I recall, people criticized Jesus for eating with tax collectors and publicans, not for hanging out with whores. Though I admit it's been a few years since I last read the gospels.

Yeah...see...Jesus hung with 'publicans. I should have realized before that I am with the party with the imprimatur of deity!

514 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:38:05pm

The GOP Chairman whose name I posted above has thoroughly disowned him btw. according to one of the articles.

515 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:38:19pm

When we switched from the Swingline to the Bostch, I kept mine because the Swingline doesn't jam up like the Bostch.

516 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:38:28pm

re: #498 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

According to the article, he's going to "debate himself." Which means he probably won't get prostate cancer.

A novelty candidate. Okay, an evil novelty candidate.

517 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:38:36pm

re: #447 mama winger

Golly Moses ! That's MY middle name too!

How ironic is that?

HEY! That's Mr. Wolf's middle name, too! :D


/bwaaahahahaaa

518 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:38:43pm

re: #466 Ben Hur

Saying "he's not Christian" is like when CAIR says Islamic terrorists aren't Muslims because a "real" Muslim wouldn't do that.

Really stirring the pot, huh? ;-)

Obvious difference #1, evil is not a fit with a good ideology.

Difference #2, When CAIR or the like gives that excuse, they are often saying the people accused of the evil didn't do it, because they are Muslims. That differs from admiting the guilt of the accused party, but questioning their beliefs.

#3 He can easily be a Christian, just not a good one. Maybe his understanding of Christianity is on par with his understanding of Republican ideas, since he thinks he is one of those too. But we must remember, Christ specifically warned us that his followers would all be sinners.

#4 Can't I just finish my waffle?

519 cygnus  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:38:45pm

re: #417 Ben Hur

Electric stapler?

Is that how deep American sloth has become?!?!?!

An electric stapler is good if you have lots of stapling to do. I did that on a job a long time ago and it really gets to your hand and wrist.

520 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:38:51pm
521 konservo  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:39:32pm
He also told WIMS radio in Michigan City that he didn’t believe the event he attended included people necessarily of the Nazi mindset, pointing out the name isn’t Nazi, but Nationalist Socialist Workers Party.

Oh, I see. It's all just a big misunderstanding. They're not the Nazi party, they're the Nazi Workers Party.
/

“That’s the risk you have to take to get your point across,” Zirkle said. “If the Black Panthers or the Jewish Zionists want me to speak about these issues, I’ll do it.”

Yes. 'Cause, you see, Zionism = racism, and Jewish Zionism = crimes against humanity.

When asked if he was a Nazi or sympathized with Nazis or white supremacists, Zirkle replied he didn’t know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it.

WTF? He doesn't know enough about the Nazis to either be in favor or oppose the modern Nazi party?

He's either lying, or he's dangerously incompetent.

522 3 wood  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:39:40pm

re: #480 TalkinKamel

I vote moby.

And I'm a John 3:16 quoting, Born Again bible thumper too.

523 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:39:41pm

I read 2 comments from Ecclesiastes and I have categorized him as an idiot or a fraud, neither worth my time. Mama Winger and Dianna attempt to connect and correct. Gracious and classy as always.

524 boazhorribilis  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:39:50pm

Jewish Zionists=Jews who believe it is OK for Israel to exist, in the same category with the Black Panthers and the Nazis.
Uhhh, sorry, I meant the Nationalist Socialist Workers Party.

525 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:39:57pm

re: #513 eschew_obfuscation

Yeah...see...Jesus hung with 'publicans. I should have realized before that I am with the party with the imprimatur of deity!

darn tootin'!

526 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:40:32pm
Local Republicans are condemning Zirkle's appearance. St. Joseph County GOP chairman Chris Riley calls Zirkle's comments "nauseating and repulsive."
527 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:40:39pm

Thank god atheists are allowed to enjoy porn.

528 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:40:48pm
529 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:41:00pm

Okay, let's say you're running for office.

You need to get your name out.

You need support.

You hear about this National Socialist Workers Party gathering in April. The 22nd, in fact.

Do you:
1) Attend because it would be nice to hear from concerned citizens?
2) Run the other way because you realize that the party is just another name for the Indiana Nazis, and that the 22nd is Hitler's bday?

Well, we know what Zirkle did. He went running towards the meeting and then had the audacity to pull an Obama by dissembling what was said, who was there, and the meaning of all that Nazi imagery (to say nothing of the Hitler painting hanging right behind him).

530 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:41:16pm

re: #466 Ben Hur

I'm all in favor of saying he's not a Republican; I can't speak to his faith, and to go by the demonstrated links, Zirkle's a nut. Quite mad. So we can't even begin to guess what he really believed he was doing at that party.

531 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:41:32pm

re: #507 LanceKates

My Mom's birthday is the same as Hitler's. It's the only way I'm able to remember every year.

532 Dustoff-507  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:41:42pm

re: #393 Ecclesiastes


Tell me your either on drugs or really that stupid.

533 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:42:22pm

Also, if this guy is running for the House from Indiana, why is he speaking to a group in Illinois?

534 Lawrence Schmerel  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:42:50pm

Charles:

Why am I getting messages about "scripts" on my Firefox browser whenever I click on a long thread at LGF?

Oh, and somebody please get this Zircle jerk out of the Republican Party.

535 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:43:00pm

re: #527 Killgore Trout

Thank god atheists are allowed to enjoy porn.


that's what I like about you, Kilgore; If you're gonna do something do it well...

:-D

536 Irene NYC  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:43:08pm

re: #532 Dustoff-507

He just wants us all to attend his own pity party. Forget him.

537 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:43:08pm

re: #531 Killgore Trout

My Mom's birthday is the same as Hitler's. It's the only way I'm able to remember every year.

Do you get her a nice strudel, or some lederhosen?

538 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:43:14pm

I don't know Zirkle from mamma winger, zero information.

What I read was Zirkle saying he went to witness to Nazis. What I got out of the beginning of this thread was how terrible a thing y'all thought that was.

Jesus was pretty embarrassing to the clergy of his day too. He was always talking to the bad people, instead of the good people. It was so incomprehensible to the other rabbis that he wouldn't take the public image into consideration.

Regarding Zirkle's choice of topic, I would guess he thought that it was a message they would listen to. Is there some reason for y'all to believe that porn wouldn't have a negative effect on white boys? Or is it that you don't care?

539 Piltdown Man  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:43:19pm

Somebody may have posted this already, but this is an exact press release from the National Socialist Workers Party that hosted this guy. The emphasis is added by me. It came from the Vanguard website so I won't link it.

My most fervent wish is that this guy would come to my house as he threatens.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

BRIEF STATEMENT ON TONY ZIRKLE'S REMARKS AT THE 119th BIRTHDAY OF ADOLF HITLER

The American National Socialist Workers Party extends its thanks to Indiana Congressional Candidate Tony Zirkle for his attendance at Adolf Hitler's 119th Birthday Party, held in Chicago, Illinois, and for his remarks to our organization and our supporters.

Audio and video of the remarks will be posted online in the near future.

Mr Zirkle's remarks reflected a concern for women that clearly resonated with many of those in attendance at the event. During his remarks, he discussed the sexualization of modern culture and its impact on the status of women. He shared personal experiences of women he has represented or worked with in his legal career who had become sterile due to sexually transmitted diseases they did not know they had, and who had been impacted by sexual abuse and abusive relationships with men who had been raised in a culture that denigrates marriage.

Given the seriousness of these social problems among the white working class, and the clear impact Mr Zirkle's statements made on many in attendance, his talk was necessary and welcome.

Further, while much of the crowd was either pagan, Creator or Traditionalist in orientation, Mr Zirkle's concern and Christian love for each and every individual in attendance clearly shown through, and was appreciated even by incorrigible heathens such as myself.

His message also tied in well with that of Theo Junker, 89, a former SS Officer, wounded six times in the course of fighting Bolshevism on the Eastern Front, who spoke at length on his generation's fight against communism and how Hitler solved Germany's social ills, eliminating drugs and licentiousness.

The criticism that Mr Zirkle has received for his actions is pure wickedness, fed by a libertine and thoroughly Judaized ruling class which sees the white working poor as mere toys for their pleasure and exploitation. By linking the struggle against the sexual exploitation of the white working poor to the struggle against the economic exploitation of the white working poor, Mr Zirkle has done our society a service, and we urge the voters of Indiana's 2nd Congressional District to nominate him as the Republican Candidate for Congress.

We further warn those inclined to denigrate this good man to cease and desist their efforts, before we are compelled to launch another Leonard Pitts or Jena 6 style protest campaign in the South Bend area. I also remind certain DC bloggers that I have been known to either come to the homes of or send others to the homes of blowhards to discuss their inappropriate commentary, and continue that inclination.

Bill White, Commander
American National Socialist Workers Party

---


The American National Socialist Workers Party was founded in 2006 as a successor organization to the National Socialist Movement. Its members and supporters have been noted for a number of guerilla actions, including the rioting that broke out in Toledo, Ohio, in 2005, the campaign against Leonard Pitts in 2007, the "Lynch the Jena 6" campaign of 2007, and the kidnapping of phony "Holocaust" survivor Eli Weisel. The organization is Commander by Bill White. Its Illinois state leader is Phillip Anderson.

540 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:43:52pm

re: #534 Lawrence Schmerel

Charles:

Why am I getting messages about "scripts" on my Firefox browser whenever I click on a long thread at LGF?

Oh, and somebody please get this Zircle jerk out of the Republican Party.

I get that occasionally too, if I have lots of tabs open.

541 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:44:09pm

re: #529 lawhawk

Okay, let's say you're running for office.

You need to get your name out.

You need support.

He's running for office in Indiana. The Hitler Birthday Bash was in Chicago.

542 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:44:12pm

oh, and let's not forget the field day the media is going to have with this guy at GOP expense...

543 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:44:25pm

re: #535 paxnhymn

If you're gonna do something do it well...


It's my area of expertise.

544 VegasRick  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:44:26pm

re: #393 Ecclesiastes

Paint-right,

I'm not being any more sarcastic than any body jumping on Zirkle's case.

Obviously, y'all don't like Christians.

How did you come to that conclusion?

545 Ben-Ami  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:44:42pm

re: #538 Ecclesiastes


What I read was Zirkle saying he went to witness to Nazis. What I got out of the beginning of this thread was how terrible a thing y'all thought that was.

You seriously need to work on that reading comprehension.

546 snowcrash  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:44:53pm

re: #534 Lawrence Schmerel
Me too. IE wants me to allow a temp scripted window? I only use that for links.

547 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:45:18pm

re: #508 Kosh's Shadow

I don't want to go to his site.
Does he give any states to Jews? Or just special shower facilities?

I'm at work, I stay away from that drivel.

It is sufficient, in my world, to label him as a racist and, therefore, useless.

548 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:45:21pm

Dianna, I don't think this forum is good for the discussion. Is there a different one that you could suggest?

549 mANDYmANNERS  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:45:38pm

Did he fail American history in high school?

550 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:45:49pm

Gaze is the only thing to do at this point.

or it could be the globular cluster of Christian witnessing discussions

551 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:45:51pm

re: #539 Piltdown Man

Let's see Zirkle separate himself from that.

/hmmm...

552 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:46:22pm
553 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:46:47pm

Definite muktuk, now is it Bill White, Don Black, Pat Buchanan, Christine, or the Baron?

554 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:46:56pm

re: #539 Piltdown Man

Further, while much of the crowd was either pagan, Creator or Traditionalist in orientation, Mr Zirkle's concern and Christian love for each and every individual in attendance clearly shown through, and was appreciated even by incorrigible heathens such as myself.

Odd labels that. Doesn't sound like any mainstream Christianity that I've heard of.

555 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:47:13pm

re: #538 Ecclesiastes

STOP perverting the name of the LORD JESUS CHRIST by comparing him to this racist, or the nazi group that he associates with.

556 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:47:19pm

re: #507 LanceKates

My boss says that it's always annoyed him.

557 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:47:41pm

re: #539 Piltdown Man

The American National Socialist Workers Party was founded in 2006 as a successor organization to the National Socialist Movement. Its members and supporters have been noted for a number of guerilla actions, including the rioting that broke out in Toledo, Ohio, in 2005, the campaign against Leonard Pitts in 2007, the "Lynch the Jena 6" campaign of 2007, and the kidnapping of phony "Holocaust" survivor Eli Weisel. The organization is Commander by Bill White. Its Illinois state leader is Phillip Anderson.

Wow, they were in on that? I thought it was some moonbat. They misspelled his name, too. Morons.

558 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:47:49pm

re: #538 Ecclesiastes

Damn you're dense. You missed the entire point of this thread, and when people correct you, you pull out the "they hate me because I'm..X" card. That card has no currency around here.

One ought not to associate with fascists and racists of any stripe.

559 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:47:51pm

Dianna,

Too much scroll, ya know.

560 mANDYmANNERS  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:47:55pm

re: #548 Ecclesiastes

Dianna, I don't think this forum is good for the discussion. Is there a different one that you could suggest?

Where do you think you are?

561 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:47:57pm

re: #554 Silhouette

Odd labels that. Doesn't sound like any mainstream Christianity that I've heard of.

wierod in the extreme

562 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:48:08pm

re: #539 Piltdown Man

Holy hell! They really are Illinois nazis.

/paging Jake, paging Elwood.

563 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:48:12pm

re: #548 Ecclesiastes

Do you hate Jews?

BRASS
TACKS,
R

564 Piltdown Man  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:48:21pm

re: #554 Silhouette

Odd labels that. Doesn't sound like any mainstream Christianity that I've heard of.


Many times they refer to themselves as Odinists as well.

565 Ben-Ami  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:48:24pm

re: #539 Piltdown Man


We further warn those inclined to denigrate this good man to cease and desist their efforts, before we are compelled to launch another Leonard Pitts or Jena 6 style protest campaign in the South Bend area. I also remind certain DC bloggers that I have been known to either come to the homes of or send others to the homes of blowhards to discuss their inappropriate commentary, and continue that inclination.

Oh, if the Nazis Nationalist Socialist Workers want us to shut up, we'd better do it, dontcha think?

566 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:48:41pm

re: #538 Ecclesiastes

Jesus was pretty embarrassing to the clergy of his day too. He was always talking to the bad people, instead of the good people.

Yes He was.

I've met Jesus, and Zirkel is no Jesus.

Seriously - I see the underlying thought behind your case. I really do and I understand it. In its correct context, you would be absolutely right. The fact is - that is not what happened here. This man is using Jesus as his cover story for associating with Nazis.

Jesus warned us to be as gentle as doves and as wise ass serpents. In this instance, wisdom trumps gentleness. Please do not ignore the facts in your admirable attempt to defend true Christian witness.

The man is lying, dear. And he is a bad bad man. You must use discrenment.

567 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:48:44pm

re: #470 Occasional Reader

So I guess "Zirkle City" is completely out of the question?

88 Zirkle Circle?

One hell of an addy.

568 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:48:45pm

re: #527 Killgore Trout

Thank god atheists are allowed to enjoy porn.

You're not allowed to thank God, you atheist you!

569 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:48:47pm

re: #549 mANDYmANNERS

Did he fail American history in high school?

I think he landed on his head when he was born.

570 Dustoff-507  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:49:01pm

re: #538 Ecclesiastes

Maybe you should pick up a book and learn about the Hilter and his party.

571 mANDYmANNERS  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:49:02pm

Oh, for fuck's sake.

Good thing my GAZE tool has had a lot of exercise lately.

572 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:49:27pm

re: #548 Ecclesiastes

Dianna, I don't think this forum is good for the discussion. Is there a different one that you could suggest?

Admitting defeat, moby?

573 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:49:36pm
574 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:49:38pm

re: #545 Ben-Ami

You seriously need to work on that reading comprehension.

Perhaps applying for a job w/ the AP ? (See previous thread!)

575 debutaunt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:49:42pm

re: #549 mANDYmANNERS

Did he fail American history in high school?

mINDYmANNERS?

576 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:49:44pm

re: #515 Honorary Yooper

When we switched from the Swingline to the Bostch, I kept mine because the Swingline doesn't jam up like the Bostch.

One does wonder about a company whose name is that easy to warp.

577 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:49:59pm

re: #558 Honorary Yooper

"One ought not to associate with fascists and racists of any stripe."

please forward the above message to BHO...

578 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:50:06pm

wise as serpents

not

wise ass serpents


LOL!

579 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:50:35pm
580 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:50:35pm

re: #559 Ecclesiastes

Dianna,

Too much scroll, ya know.

That's what happens when we have a troll or moby.

/Gamey.

581 mANDYmANNERS  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:50:46pm

re: #569 Ward Cleaver

I think he landed on his head when he was born.

I don't think he was born. Maybe he was hatched.

582 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:50:49pm

Yooper,

I'm not particularly evangelical, but if you're trying to say fascists and racists should be denied the gospel, then we shall have to disagree.

583 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:50:55pm

Ecclesiastes - neo-Nazi apologist, or garden-variety troll?

584 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:50:57pm

re: #556 Dianna

I'd probably feel guilt, knowing me.

Glad I'm born in late August!

585 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:51:00pm

re: #566 mama winger

and as wise ass serpents.

Can't let that pass without a snicker. Sorry mama.

586 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:51:13pm

re: #539 Piltdown Man

From that press release:

"His message also tied in well with that of Theo Junker, 89, a former SS Officer, wounded six times in the course of fighting Bolshevism on the Eastern Front, who spoke at length on his generation's fight against communism and how Hitler solved Germany's social ills, eliminating drugs and licentiousness."

Does anybody here not know how Hitler dealt with 'Germany's social ills'?

And what is a fomer SS-Officer doing, living in the USA?

Gawd - this is sickening.

587 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:51:15pm

re: #578 mama winger

Made me chuckle too. I thought the ghost of my dad was posting...

STOP
TOUCHING
ME!,
R

588 mANDYmANNERS  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:51:18pm

re: #575 debutaunt

mINDYmANNERS?

I had my ALL CAPS on when I logged on.

589 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:51:38pm

re: #566 mama winger

wise ass serpents

While I appreciated your post, and understood what you meant, that made me burst out laughing.

590 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:51:44pm

re: #579 buzzsawmonkey

I liked "wise ass serpents."

Sounds like Bill Maher.

591 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:51:51pm

re: #245 3 wood

OT: Umm, hey fellas? Read this:

Study: Masturbation May Prevent Prostate Cancer

No comment.

But did the study consider unwanted side-effects, like tennis elbow?

592 Bubblehead II  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:51:53pm

bbiaw. Have fun playing whack a troll..

593 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:52:12pm

re: #571 mANDYmANNERS

Oh, for fuck's sake.

Good thing my GAZE tool has had a lot of exercise lately.

*hug, Caps lock and all*

594 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:52:13pm

re: #566 mama winger
What a typo!

595 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:52:16pm

re: #585 Silhouette

Can't let that pass without a snicker. Sorry mama.

I know.

I had to laugh at it myself. It sounds like something Babba would have printed on a T-Shirt, doesn't it? :)

596 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:52:30pm

re: #586 yma o hyd

From that press release:

"His message also tied in well with that of Theo Junker, 89, a former SS Officer, wounded six times in the course of fighting Bolshevism on the Eastern Front, who spoke at length on his generation's fight against communism and how Hitler solved Germany's social ills, eliminating drugs and licentiousness."

Does anybody here not know how Hitler dealt with 'Germany's social ills'?

And what is a fomer SS-Officer doing, living in the USA?

Gawd - this is sickening.

They haven't caught up with him yet. Now that he's in the paper, they will.

597 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:52:49pm

re: #582 Ecclesiastes

Yooper,

I'm not particularly evangelical, but if you're trying to say fascists and racists should be denied the gospel, then we shall have to disagree.


c'mon man. You KNOW he wasn't evangelizing by the way it was done...he was comizurating(sp?)...

598 mANDYmANNERS  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:53:34pm

Gotta' go help The Kid finish one of his numerous, year-end projects.

Have fun playing whackamole.

599 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:53:37pm

re: #582 Ecclesiastes

Weak. Very weak.

600 redstateredneck  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:53:45pm

re: #588 mANDYmANNERS

I had my ALL CAPS on when I logged on.

Looks like some teenage myspace page.

601 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:53:51pm

re: #527 Killgore Trout

Thank god atheists are allowed to enjoy porn.

OK, I'm laughing. I probably shouldn't be, but I am.

602 Piltdown Man  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:53:58pm

re: #586 yma o hyd

And what is a fomer SS-Officer doing, living in the USA?

Theo Junker stands inside the memorial he built on his farm to honor Adolph Hitler and the men who fought for Germany during WWII

[Link: www.time.com...]

603 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:54:04pm

re: #586 yma o hyd

We've heard of ex-SS man Theo Junker before...

[Link: cbs2chicago.com...]

BEEN
ROUND,
R

604 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:54:08pm

re: #487 Irene NYC

What's your point? That the Nazis were able to find sadistic Ukrainians - most probably from jails or other criminal or psychotic elements? Nazis found sick people to help them with their genocide of the Jews in every country that they invaded - France, Holland, Poland, etc., etc., etc.


True, also.

But most camp guards in Poland were Ukrainian.

That's all.

Let's move on.

605 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:54:39pm

re: #596 Ward Cleaver

They haven't caught up with him yet. Now that he's in the paper, they will.

Good!

606 wanumba  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:54:39pm

Have no idea who this guy is, but the argument that Christians are compelled to witness to sinners doesn't mean plain old common sense is left at home on the bookshelf.

Private witnessing to individuals would be sensible, IF witnessing was truly his reason.

607 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:54:43pm

Possibility 1- he is the most ignorant of all yobs, clueless and so completely intellectually incurious as to never bother to learn about Nazis. national socialism in which case he should never be found in a high national office because he is too thick to serve.

Possibility 2- he is a cynical bigoted Nazi POS doing a David Duke tapdance while he tries to play dumb in which case his ideology is a clear and present danger to our liberty, he should never be elected to anything.

Possibility 3- its all a prank in which case he should be shunned for having no sense of humor.

No matter how you shake him, this lad is poster child for Jewish firearm ownership.

Nazis belong in in their perfect state of nature, prison. If they ever come near to power... to quote Robert DeNiro " I will not hesitate"

608 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:54:56pm

re: #604 Ben Hur

Darwinists.
/

609 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:54:59pm

re: #582 Ecclesiastes

Yooper,

I'm not particularly evangelical, but if you're trying to say fascists and racists should be denied the gospel, then we shall have to disagree.

I never said to deny, I said you missed the point of the thread. He was not preaching the Gospel to the Nazis. Zirkel was agreeing with the Nazis. Read his website, note the difference.

I don't care what Zirkel's religious affliliation is. What I know is that he agrees with the Nazis.

610 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:55:09pm

re: #582 Ecclesiastes

Yooper,

I'm not particularly evangelical, but if you're trying to say fascists and racists should be denied the gospel, then we shall have to disagree.

I don't know about Yooper, but I'M saying that for a fascist or racist to embrace the gospel, they need to give up their racist and fascist ways.

Why do you harbor more anger towards those who oppose racism and fascism than against those who would pervert the gospel to SUIT racism and fascism?

611 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:55:18pm

re: #581 mANDYmANNERS

I don't think he was born. Maybe he was hatched.

Bite your tongue, Mandy! There's no way in hell that fucker's a Lizard!
/

612 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:55:19pm

re: #582 Ecclesiastes

Yooper,

I'm not particularly evangelical, but if you're trying to say fascists and racists should be denied the gospel, then we shall have to disagree.

I think Zirkle is trying to shine us on. Witnessing, shmitnessing. He thought nobody would get wind of his hanging out with the Nazis.

613 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:55:56pm

re: #582 Ecclesiastes

Yooper,

I'm not particularly evangelical, but if you're trying to say fascists and racists should be denied the gospel, then we shall have to disagree.

He was not there preaching the gospel. He wasn't talking about Jesus at all.

He was talking about how white women are victimized in the porn industry. Is he not concerned about all women, just whites? Did he accuse some non-whites as being the ones victimizing the women? T

The Nazis defended him after the speech - they liked and agreed with what he had to say. And it wasn't because they were converted to love.

Nazis need God's love too, but "Go and sin no more," means stop being nazis.

614 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:56:01pm

No matter what his motivations or message to them was, this was profoundly stupid. He could have shown up and said to them that they were a bunch of idiots and that they need to get over it and become civilized and the damage would still have been done. He is obviously even more clueless than Dhimmi Carter. The Republican party in the state has to meet and withdraw any support for him ASAP and nominate another candidate to run for his slot. Just like when the Democrats shot Eagleton when it came out he had had electroconvulsive therapy (which fwiw is one of the most effective procedures against depression and a few other disorders) the Republicans have to make him gone.

615 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:56:06pm

re: #596 Ward Cleaver

They haven't caught up with him yet. Now that he's in the paper, they will.

That would be a nice little treat, if true.

Namely, to have this 89 year old former SS officer thrown out of the country on his ear because of the antics of this brown-shirt sucking lunatic.

616 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:56:30pm

re: #602 Piltdown Man

And what is a fomer SS-Officer doing, living in the USA?

Theo Junker stands inside the memorial he built on his farm to honor Adolph Hitler and the men who fought for Germany during WWII

[Link: www.time.com...]

Why hasn't that sonofabitch been deported to Romania?

617 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:56:37pm

re: #612 Ward Cleaver

I think Zirkle is trying to shine us on. Witnessing, shmitnessing. He thought nobody would get wind of his hanging out with the Nazis.


ding!Ding!Ding! giv ethe man a cigar! We have a winner!~

618 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:56:49pm

paxnhymn,

Actually I don't know that he wasn't evangelizing. I've seen a lot of people saying that it should be obvious that he wasn't.

Mostly what I've seen is how he can't possibly be a Christian because he went to see Nazis.

619 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:57:03pm

re: #602 Piltdown Man

And what is a fomer SS-Officer doing, living in the USA?

Theo Junker stands inside the memorial he built on his farm to honor Adolph Hitler and the men who fought for Germany during WWII

[Link: www.time.com...]

Unbelievable!
Un-effing-believable!

And I bet there are indeed idiots who'll come and visit that 'shrine'.

620 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:57:10pm

re: #578 mama winger

wise as serpents

not

wise ass serpents


LOL!

ROLMAO!

Title, rotating title

Wise Ass Serpents.

*gasp* my sides hurt.

621 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:58:04pm

There are many such gatherings every April 20th in America.

Which is why I celebrate his death every April 30th.

622 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:58:05pm

re: #548 Ecclesiastes

Not lately.

623 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:58:07pm

Don't tread on me, I'm a wiseass serpent.

624 Cognito  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:58:22pm

"...he didn’t believe the event he attended included people necessarily of the Nazi mindset, pointing out the name isn’t Nazi, but Nationalist Socialist Workers Party."

Oh -- the National Socialist Workers Party...

Well that's all right, then.

625 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:58:34pm

re: #518 Silhouette

Really stirring the pot, huh? ;-)

Obvious difference #1, evil is not a fit with a good ideology.

Difference #2, When CAIR or the like gives that excuse, they are often saying the people accused of the evil didn't do it, because they are Muslims. That differs from admiting the guilt of the accused party, but questioning their beliefs.

#3 He can easily be a Christian, just not a good one. Maybe his understanding of Christianity is on par with his understanding of Republican ideas, since he thinks he is one of those too. But we must remember, Christ specifically warned us that his followers would all be sinners.

#4 Can't I just finish my waffle?

Great post.

I might add that the Indiana gov is not supporting this guy, not is it indocrinating its population to agree.

Neither are the masses in Indiana.

The same goes for the Federal Government.

That's another reason it is different.

626 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:59:14pm

re: #618 Ecclesiastes

paxnhymn,

Actually I don't know that he wasn't evangelizing. I've seen a lot of people saying that it should be obvious that he wasn't.

Mostly what I've seen is how he can't possibly be a Christian because he went to see Nazis.

Oh shut up.

627 Piltdown Man  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:59:17pm

re: #605 yma o hyd

They haven't caught up with him yet. Now that he's in the paper, they will.

Good!

If only. This guy has been famous for a long time and here he sits. There are plenty of ex-Nazis in the US. But it is illegal to have lied about it upon entry and if he did, he could have his citizenship stripped. But somebody at Justice would have to take an interest first.

628 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:59:20pm
629 Sparkizzy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:59:34pm

Ecclesiastes: The "gospel" of appeasement didn't work back then either.

630 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:59:38pm

re: #619 yma o hyd

Unbelievable!
Un-effing-believable!

And I bet there are indeed idiots who'll come and visit that 'shrine'.

Considering the sort of "idiots" who might visit that shrine, I'm a little surprised its still standing.

631 selpaw  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 1:59:59pm

Congressional Candidate Speaks to Nazis

and

Chabad synagogue in Miami torched....tore Torahs to pieces and torched them!

Ze'ev Katz, the synagogue's head rabbi, recounted the event on one of Chabad's internet websites, saying that a number of individuals broke into the empty synagogue, took the Torah books from the cabinet, tore them to pieces, and set them on fire.

Everything old is new again or is it HATE NEVER SLUMBERS?
Whichever the case, Jews are in for more trouble.

632 Tazzerman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:00:13pm

I'm sorry but Zirkle is either the dumbest human being on the planet or he's a closet racist unwilling to show his true colors.

Is he ACTUALLY asking us to believe that he's never heard of Nazis before? If so, then he is in fact the dumbest human being on the planet and has absolutely NO business representing anybody in government period. Shoot, he shouldn't even be allowed a drivers license in my book.

Otherwise, he's a closet racist and anti-Semite. Why ELSE would he automatically equate the Nazis and Black Panthers to the "Jewish Zionists" (Like there aren't any other possible kind of 'Zionists' out there I might add)

Either way, this man has GOT to be exposed!

Heaven help us.

633 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:00:24pm

re: #603 Render

We've heard of ex-SS man Theo Junker before...

[Link: cbs2chicago.com...]

BEEN
ROUND,
R

I still can't belive that he even got to the USA - I mean, he was Waffen-SS, and they did unspeakable things, called themselves soldiers ...

634 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:01:23pm

re: #630 looking closely

Considering the sort of "idiots" who might visit that shrine, I'm a little surprised its still standing.

Oh, I see.

Its within his private farm, which is probably out in the middle of nowhere.

635 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:01:45pm

re: #618 Ecclesiastes

paxnhymn,

Actually I don't know that he wasn't evangelizing. I've seen a lot of people saying that it should be obvious that he wasn't.

Mostly what I've seen is how he can't possibly be a Christian because he went to see Nazis.

Evangelizing is a one on one event. Preaching is done to a group. If he would have admonished their obvious...OBVIOUS racial hatred he would have been doing Christian work. Remember, the word "Christian" means LIKE CHRIST!. We all fall short, but blatant omissions are a perversion of the faith.

636 kansas  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:01:53pm

When asked if he was a Nazi or sympathized with Nazis or white supremacists, Zirkle replied he didn’t know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it.

Well that doesn't say much for History 101 in Indiana now does it? Or access to the History Channel either. Get cable, man.

637 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:01:55pm

re: #616 Ward Cleaver

Why hasn't that sonofabitch been deported to Romania?

Good question!

638 Irene NYC  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:02:06pm

re: #582 Ecclesiastes


I'm not particularly evangelical, but if you're trying to say fascists and racists should be denied the gospel, then we shall have to disagree.

Ahem...

Fascists deny the gospel. That's part of their belief system. Nobody has to do it for them. They managed it all by themselves.

639 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:02:08pm

re: #567 Ben Hur

88 Zirkle Circle?

One hell of an addy.

666 Zirkle Circle is more like it...

640 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:02:17pm

re: #620 jcm

ROLMAO!

Title, rotating title

Wise Ass Serpents.

*gasp* my sides hurt.

I'd second that!

641 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:02:30pm

re: #632 Tazzerman

Nazi White SUpremist: Group of white pricks who hate everyone not white.

Black Panther: Group of black pricks who hate everyone not black.

Jewish Zionists: Mythical group of jews who own everything.

One of these things is not like the others.

642 Sparkizzy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:02:40pm

re: #636 kansas

History Channel FTW

643 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:02:53pm

Dianna,

Then is there a way for me to send you my e-mail address?

644 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:03:23pm

re: #620 jcm

ROLMAO!

Title, rotating title

Wise Ass Serpents.

*gasp* my sides hurt.

Seconded.

Perfect description of the Lizard Army.

645 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:03:49pm

re: #636 kansas

When asked if he was a Nazi or sympathized with Nazis or white supremacists, Zirkle replied he didn’t know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it.

Well that doesn't say much for History 101 in Indiana now does it? Or access to the History Channel either. Get cable, man.

I think he has 87 years of college.

646 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:03:55pm

re: #538 Ecclesiastes

I don't know Zirkle from mamma winger, zero information.

What I read was Zirkle saying he went to witness to Nazis. What I got out of the beginning of this thread was how terrible a thing y'all thought that was.

Jesus was pretty embarrassing to the clergy of his day too. He was always talking to the bad people, instead of the good people. It was so incomprehensible to the other rabbis that he wouldn't take the public image into consideration.

Regarding Zirkle's choice of topic, I would guess he thought that it was a message they would listen to. Is there some reason for y'all to believe that porn wouldn't have a negative effect on white boys? Or is it that you don't care?

Henceforth from there we've seen an abundance of evidence that contextualizes our antipathy to Zirkle. You either: 1) haven't bothered to read it, 2) read it but lack the wit to understand it, or 3) read it and ignore it to further an agenda, i.e., moby.

Your fourth paragraph is classic "moving the goalposts." That locates you in moby territory.

647 Dustoff-507  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:04:21pm

re: #618 Ecclesiastes


O-brother. Hey fool, would you like a bigger shovel to bury yourself faster!

648 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:04:43pm

re: #632 Tazzerman

Either way, this man has GOT to be exposed!

Heaven help us.


They say nothing kills a bad product like good advertising.

He's *already* been exposed, and its over for him. With this kind of political stupidity, he's his own worst enemy. He'll never get elected anywhere.

I would be much concerned with Nazi-sympathizers or their ilk who are savvy enough to cover up those beliefs from public view.

649 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:04:54pm

re: #639 Grammy Cracker

666 Zirkle Circle is more like it...


One and the same.

88 is code for HH Heil Hitler.

650 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:05:05pm
651 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:05:13pm

re: #20 JimmyTheClaw

That's really funny, because a lot of that applies to Utah as well. Especially driving 75 mph in 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard.

/people here scare me during the winter

652 nikis-knight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:05:25pm

re: #518 Silhouette

Actually, you maybe going out on a limb by even saying he follows Jesus, imo. Clearly a goat.

653 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:06:21pm

re: #651 Fat Jolly Penguin


"/people here scare me during the winter"

easy cure. Move South.

654 Alouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:06:30pm

Some asshole on Stormfront was hot-linking to an image on my server, using it for his avatar. I swapped the image and pwn3d him with this. It took a couple of days before the asshole stopped hot-linking.

655 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:06:53pm

re: #618 Ecclesiastes

I suggest you read the quoted press release.

He was not witnessing; and the subject of his talk sounds frankly creepy.

656 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:07:13pm

re: #606 wanumba

Have no idea who this guy is, but the argument that Christians are compelled to witness to sinners doesn't mean plain old common sense is left at home on the bookshelf.

Private witnessing to individuals would be sensible, IF witnessing was truly his reason.

Pearls before swine, etc. if pearls were mentioned at all, which I doubt

this was not witnessing

657 debutaunt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:07:35pm

re: #654 Alouette

Some asshole on Stormfront was hot-linking to an image on my server, using it for his avatar. I swapped the image and pwn3d him with this. It took a couple of days before the asshole stopped hot-linking.

Perfect!

658 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:07:50pm

re: #654 Alouette

Nice work!

659 nikis-knight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:07:50pm

re: #528 buzzsawmonkey

You're a Bible thumper? Can I be your Bible bambi?

That sounds... bad... but not in the usually Buzzsawmonkey bad pun sort of bad...

660 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:08:02pm

re: #654 Alouette

Some asshole on Stormfront was hot-linking to an image on my server, using it for his avatar. I swapped the image and pwn3d him with this. It took a couple of days before the asshole stopped hot-linking.

If you don't mind my asking in a public forum...how did you discover that there was a hot link to your site?

661 Ma Sands  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:08:15pm
662 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:08:51pm
663 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:08:56pm

Zirckle is the portly bespeckled character who campaigns with a little person in Oh Brother Where Art Thou?


[Link: www.americanrhetoric.com...]

664 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:09:03pm

2006 Quotes and info, Wonkette loves this guy because of how bad he makes republicans look:


"On Thursday, Zirkle suggested the unification of North and South Korea and giving North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il 60 days in which to abdicate or face the threat of a unified invasion by the United States and China.

"To get the North Korean leader to agree to abdication, Zirkle suggested tempting him with international amnesty for his crimes -- and the offer of a professorship at either Beijing University or Yale University.

"Zirkle also discussed the failure of the Ottoman Empire to unite what is now modern-day Iraq, and said the United States shouldn't be obsessed with the idea either.

"One option, he suggested, would be to unite the Kurds in northern Iraq with the millions of Kurds in Turkey, the Sunnis in the center with Jordan and Shia in the south with Kuwait.

"Zirkle dubbed those new states 'Turkurdistan,' 'Jordiraq' and 'Kuwaitimesopotamia.' "

665 nikis-knight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:09:27pm

re: #538 Ecclesiastes

I don't know Zirkle from mamma winger, zero information.

What I read was Zirkle saying he went to witness to Nazis. What I got out of the beginning of this thread was how terrible a thing y'all thought that was.


Maybe you should read the whole article, about what he really did, and not just the quotes of the loon, 'kay?

666 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:09:31pm

re: #649 Ben Hur

One and the same.

88 is code for HH Heil Hitler.

Aaaahhh... Not the anti-christ, but definitely on the advance team... Gotcha!

667 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:09:45pm

re: #654 Alouette

Some asshole on Stormfront was hot-linking to an image on my server, using it for his avatar. I swapped the image and pwn3d him with this. It took a couple of days before the asshole stopped hot-linking.

BAWHAHAHAHA!

A Wise Ass Serpent strikes!

668 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:09:56pm

re: #654 Alouette

Some asshole on Stormfront was hot-linking to an image on my server, using it for his avatar. I swapped the image and pwn3d him with this. It took a couple of days before the asshole stopped hot-linking.

Sweeet. As good as the picture of Sharon with his dog.

669 israel4ever  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:10:08pm

saying this as a Christian:

this guy is such a buffoon he doesn't even sound like he knows what day it is. He sees swastikas and pictures of Hitler and can't figure out what this group is about? Are you kidding me? That's not evangelizing at all, that is just plain ridiculous. I hope this fool gets put down quickly, and the party comes up with a new candidate.

How can there be so many idiots in the world? (One of those rhetorical questions that I'm now pondering on an almost daily basis.) sigh.

670 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:10:10pm

re: #616 Ward Cleaver

Why hasn't that sonofabitch been deported to Romania?

Does Mossad still do Nazi-napping operations, like with Eichmann?

671 right_on_target  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:10:16pm

It seems like he's a paid stooge. Paid to bring dishonor on the Republican Party. ANYBODY can claim to be a member of ANY party and run for office under that party's name. Let's see how long this winds through the MSM; the longer it does the more I suspect this is a setup to soil the Republican name.

672 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:10:21pm

re: #661 Ma Sands

Here's some background on the guy...

Well...the guy can't keep a job...

673 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:10:22pm

re: #641 LanceKates

Nazi White SUpremist: Group of white pricks who hate everyone not white.

Black Panther: Group of black pricks who hate everyone not black.

Jewish Zionists: Mythical group of jews who own everything.

One of these things is not like the others.

I agree with the last bit, but Jewish Zionists are not mythical at all.

They would include those Jews who believe that there should be a Jewish homeland in Israel (in no small part to protect Jews from the likes of Nazis and Black Panthers).

At a very superficial level all three groups could be described as "separatist", but that is a deceptively shallow analysis.

Jews have a pretty compelling historical reason to want their own state.

Despite the seeming exclusiveness of a nominally Jewish State, in practice, The Jewish Zionists set up a functioning democracy that is open to participation by individuals of all religions and races. The Jewish Zionists don't talk about killing people or racial superiority/inferiority.

674 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:10:23pm

Sol Roth,

That would be number 1 - I haven't bothered to read it. If y'all are stuck on the idea that one has to look good while witnessing the gospel, I don't think I'd find the rest of your "reasoning" to be helpful.

Y'all dress up nice on Sundays, I'm sure. I visit with drunks and drug addicts during the week in a t-shirt and jeans.

675 Alouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:10:39pm

re: #660 eschew_obfuscation

If you don't mind my asking in a public forum...how did you discover that there was a hot link to your site?

From the "referrer" logs in my server reports, the same was Charles can tell who's visiting from Reuters, etc.

676 Sparkizzy  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:10:47pm

"Wise Ass Serpents" should be a rotating title, who's with me?

677 Tazzerman  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:12:11pm

Oh yeah, here it is.

"I also have concerns about Jewish involvement in porn which was almost a cartel until recently. Hitler claimed in the movie "The Eternal Jew" that Jews comprised 98% of all pimps in Germany. Christians and Muslims could unite on anti-Semitism and use the Jews' involvement in porn-prostitution to incite the public."

Taken DIRECTLY from this anti-Semites congressional website. He needs to be EXPOSED BIG TIME!

-tm

678 Roger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:12:22pm

re: #415 Ben-Ami

It's a reference to this, "I hate Indiana Nazis!"

679 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:12:29pm

re: #662 buzzsawmonkey

You haven't read John Ringo's Ghost, have you?

680 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:12:34pm

re: #670 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Does Mossad still do Nazi-napping operations, like with Eichmann?

I'm planning to email the Criminal Division at DoJ, to ask why he's still here.

681 nikis-knight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:13:10pm

re: #566 mama winger

Jesus warned us to be as gentle as doves and as wise ass serpents

Jesus likes sarcasm?
/playful teasing

682 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:13:18pm

re: #676 Sparkizzy

"Wise Ass Serpents" should be a rotating title, who's with me?

Support! Call the question! Charles?

683 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:13:18pm

re: #670 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Does Mossad still do Nazi-napping operations, like with Eichmann?

I wish. I loved that movie, with Martin Balsam.

684 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:13:31pm
685 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:13:35pm

Not an innocent nutball - true believer:

Zirkle says segregation is worth a debate again

Comments made by an Indiana Congressional candidate are stirring up controversy. Last week, Tony Zirkle told a Kokomo newspaper that segregation between African Americans and other races might not be a bad idea.

On a Wednesday morning radio talk show Zirkle’s primary opponent, Luke Puckett, publically denounced those comments. WUBS is a African American radio station on South Bend’s west side.

Puckett called the comments a "travesty to the political system.”

Newscenter 16 also sat down with Tony Zirkle to get his side of the story.

If you were listening to 89.7 FM Wednesday morning, you may have heard some of Reverend William's guests on the WUBS talk show.

Republican second district congressional candidate Luke Puckett appeared on the show to condemn his opponent Tony Zirkle's remarks on segregation. “For me, it's just a shame that in 2008 when we have done so much as a country, as a Republican party... whom I stand for. To have anyone who calls themselves a Republican, to have these bigoted and racist views of any people,” says Zirkle.

But Zirkle defends his comments. He says he's not for segregation in terms of oppression or crime. Rather, he says it's something voters should consider with crime rates and out of wedlock births high among African Americans. “The segregation, when you use that word, it's a loaded term and many people think about oppressing a people and denying the right to vote. And no one is calling for that type of segregation because that was wrong and I even said that was criminal,” says Zirkle. “We could have six states that are African American, 44 states white and Hispanic, because I don't really see much of a difference between the two cultures. Let people vote and let them decide."

686 Piltdown Man  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:13:53pm

If anyone has a strong tolerance and stomach, here is the video of the Birthday Party itself:

687 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:14:18pm

re: #675 Alouette

From the "referrer" logs in my server reports, the same was Charles can tell who's visiting from Reuters, etc.

Does Apache have such logs?

688 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:14:36pm

re: #674 Ecclesiastes

Sol Roth,

That would be number 1 - I haven't bothered to read it. If y'all are stuck on the idea that one has to look good while witnessing the gospel, I don't think I'd find the rest of your "reasoning" to be helpful.

Y'all dress up nice on Sundays, I'm sure. I visit with drunks and drug addicts during the week in a t-shirt and jeans.

do you stand up in front of them as a group and ignore the fact that their drunks or drug addicts? If you do, then you're wrong too...

689 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:14:45pm

re: #649 Ben Hur

One and the same.

88 is code for HH Heil Hitler.

I'd forgotten about that particular little number game.

Of course, 88 was also the name of a damn good artillery piece used by the Nazis. Too bad they had it and we didn't.

690 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:15:18pm

re: #688 paxnhymn

If we ignore it, it might go away...

691 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:15:28pm

Thaty should be added as an update.

692 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:15:31pm

re: #674 Ecclesiastes

I think you seriously need to read the article, and items linked and quoted.

693 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:15:31pm

re: #661 Ma Sands

Here's some background on the guy...

Under Ed. U.S. NAVAL ACADEMY (See above under Experience) no graduation date, I don't see it there.

Curious...

On this page. U.S. Naval Academy, 1988-90. One year...

Under what circumstances did he leave?

694 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:15:44pm
695 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:15:49pm

re: #674 Ecclesiastes

Sol Roth,

That would be number 1 - I haven't bothered to read it. If y'all are stuck on the idea that one has to look good while witnessing the gospel, I don't think I'd find the rest of your "reasoning" to be helpful.

Y'all dress up nice on Sundays, I'm sure. I visit with drunks and drug addicts during the week in a t-shirt and jeans.

It's incumbent upon you to read and understand BEFORE you condemn those who have. Unless, of course you like appearing as a lackwit.

You are not an honest debater here if you don't.

696 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:15:49pm
“We could have six states that are African American, 44 states white and Hispanic, because I don't really see much of a difference between the two cultures. Let people vote and let them decide."

So, would New Orleans be a chocolate city?

697 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:15:58pm

re: #677 Tazzerman

Oh yeah, here it is.

"I also have concerns about Jewish involvement in porn which was almost a cartel until recently. Hitler claimed in the movie "The Eternal Jew" that Jews comprised 98% of all pimps in Germany. Christians and Muslims could unite on anti-Semitism and use the Jews' involvement in porn-prostitution to incite the public."

Taken DIRECTLY from this anti-Semites congressional website. He needs to be EXPOSED BIG TIME!

-tm

That should remove any doubts about what he is; a Nazi and anti-semite to the core.

Quoting from one of the viles anti-semitic propaganda films ever made, and using that as evidence is beyond belief.

698 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:16:14pm

The 1st kid speaking sounds like he's giving a book report in 5th grade.

699 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:16:22pm

re: #676 Sparkizzy

"Wise Ass Serpents" should be a rotating title, who's with me?

Absolutely! Reporting it to HQ.

700 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:16:24pm

re: #693 jcm

Under Ed. U.S. NAVAL ACADEMY (See above under Experience) no graduation date, I don't see it there.

Curious...

On this page. U.S. Naval Academy, 1988-90. One year...

Under what circumstances did he leave?

I'm guessing whatever they call a mental health discharge

701 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:16:28pm

re: #650 buzzsawmonkey

Point 1: There is not any person breathing who has "never heard of Nazis." Particularly not if they have managed to acquire a college degree--or have ever in their lives watched the History Channel.

I'd say there are lots of individuals who don't have college degrees (or even high school degrees) who have also never watched the Hitler History channel.

Where as pretty much everyone has *heard* of the Nazis, I think there legitimately ARE people who don't *really* know who they were, what they did, or what they stood for.

You'd be amazed how many seemingly functional people wouldn't be able to tell you when WWI occurred, or name the major powers that comprised the Axis and Allies, let alone be able to define their ideologies.

So I'd say its *theoretically* possible that this guy is one of these ignoramuses (though I don't really believe it). But even if true, that ipso facto disqualifies him from holding public office, IMO.

I really think this is a bunch of hooey. . .the guy is clearly a crank who isn't fit to hold public office. He may get the Nazi vote, but he's not going to get elected.

702 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:16:39pm

re: #693 jcm

Curious...

On this page. U.S. Naval Academy, 1988-90. One year...

Under what circumstances did he leave?

You're assuming he's telling the truth about having been at the USNA at all. Big assumption...

703 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:17:24pm

re: #482 Occasional Reader

Wow, I've never had anyone campaign to bring Charles' attention to one of my posts (in a good way). I am truly flattered. I went ahead and spun that link off.

Anyhow, I should get going. I got things to do, and I can't fill up on gamey buttocks today, I have to save room. Today is tri-tip day. Woot!

Hmm... It looks like it's fixin' to rain. If so, I am gonna be one soggy BBQer.

Later Lizards!

704 chief long name  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:17:33pm

NOBODY is this clueless. Not even the shehag.
/checking in from Squarebanks AK...


my wifi's working, whippie

705 Cognito  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:17:39pm

re: #685 Thanos

We could have six states that are African American, 44 states white and Hispanic, because I don't really see much of a difference between the two cultures. Let people vote and let them decide."

It's funny. At first I was entertaining the possibility that this guy was an outrageously sheltered but well-intentioned moron.

But nope. Pretty much a baddie.

706 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:17:40pm

Anyone else watching?

707 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:17:46pm

re: #677 Tazzerman

I reported you, but in a good way. Do you have a link for that? It should be added to the top.

It looks like Zirkle's stupid-to-evil ration just pegged on evil.

708 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:17:52pm

re: #684 buzzsawmonkey

Ah, no.

Let me put it this way: I actually ended up asking John how many pages of sex I had to skip to get to the violence. That was - admittedly - in the section after the appearance of Bambi and Thumper.

709 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:18:40pm

oops !

710 Ma Sands  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:18:48pm

re: #693 jcm

I think he would be an interesting person to talk with...questions need answering... :)

711 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:19:20pm
712 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:19:49pm

I am drunk with power.

713 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:20:25pm
714 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:20:45pm

re: #674 Ecclesiastes

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

You said, "Obviously, y'all don't like Christians."

You owe us an apology and a retraction.

GET
TO
IT,
R

715 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:20:48pm

paxnhymn,

"do you stand up in front of them as a group and ignore the fact that their drunks or drug addicts? If you do, then you're wrong too..."

You are an authority on this, of course. Some time this next week, when I'm trying to help someone, I'll pass your wisdom along.

716 Roger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:20:59pm

Witness? Witness?re: #618 Ecclesiastes

How is your buddy Jimmah Carter doing?

717 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:21:03pm
718 Cognito  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:21:08pm

re: #706 Ben Hur

Anyone else watching?

I'm watching it. What a bunch of play-acting sad sacks.

719 Dustoff-507  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:21:13pm

re: #693 jcm

Maybe they found out who he was and kicked him out.

720 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:21:20pm

I propose a steel cage death match: Zirkle versus Urkel.

721 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:21:26pm

re: #714 Render

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

You said, "Obviously, y'all don't like Christians."

You owe us an apology and a retraction.

GET
TO
IT,
R

Don't hold your breath, Render. We need you around here!

722 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:21:37pm

More sickness:

Zirkle said he feels he was misunderstood. His real mission, he said, is to rid the country of pornography, and that's what he was saying at the ANSWP gathering. So how did his comment about Jews fit in?
"Most of the male porn stars were Jewish at the beginning," Zirkle explained.

Now the male porn stars are mostly black, he claimed, and the women who appear in pornographic works tend to be "young, white, Christian women."

If people think he is targeting the Jews, he said, they are misinterpreting his position. He is targeting, Zirkle said, the "porn dragon" that inspires Jews to get involved in pornography.

Jewish men are culpable for running the business end of the pornography business, he said, but young white women are guilty of starring in it.

723 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:21:57pm

re: #711 buzzsawmonkey

It's all right.

You do know about Bambi Versus Godzilla?

724 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:22:20pm

re: #661 Ma Sands

Here's some background on the guy...

I find it shocking that this man is a graduate of the US Naval academy.

For some reason, I'm not particularly surprised to see he's also a divorce lawyer.

He was supposedly Valedictorian of his high school, but that isn't necessarily a big accomplishment (depending on the size and constituency of said high school).

So, for such a smart guy, why is he so stupid?

725 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:22:26pm

re: #674 Ecclesiastes

That would be number 1 - I haven't bothered to read it.

Don't you think it would be worth your time to read it and perhaps have some slight clue about what you are talking about...or is it easier to exercise an agenda from the bottom of a growing hole of your own creation and accuse others based on that ignorance?

726 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:22:39pm

OT
hey new Englanders, Massachusettsers and all hereabouts on school vacation..has this not been the most beautiful week so far weatherwise, not to mention the Sox victories?

Dreamy.

727 WestPack  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:23:04pm

"When asked if he was a Nazi or sympathized with Nazis or white supremacists, Zirkle replied he didn’t know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it. This is just a great opportunity for me to witness,” he said, referring to his message and his Christian belief."

Listen up Cretin, there are at least 300,000 dead Americans who died fighting Hitler's Legions in WW2 plus millions more since then who have passed on including my uncle who we will put to rest in Arlington in June. Any of them would have be glad to bring you up to speed on the "Hitler thing". Since they can't I will.

Shut your pie-hole before you get something else in it besides your foot. The only thing you are a witness to is your own stupidity.

A VN and DS Vet

728 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:23:05pm

re: #715 Ecclesiastes

Oh FOR CHRIST'S SAKE... YES, PUN INTENDED... this asshole's Nazi sympathies have been pointed out over and over again on this thread.

So are you ready to apologize for your moronic remarks calling us anti-Christian? Or are you just a moby?

729 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:23:16pm

re: #693 jcm

One of the links said it was a medical discharge. But I couldn't find any confirmation.

If it was medical, I'm thinking Section Eight.

WARPED
PUCK,
R

730 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:23:19pm
731 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:23:28pm

re: #690 Grammy Cracker

If we ignore it, it might go away...


I can't do it, Grammy. The Bible says to "admonish in love." Ecclessiastes just wants to "in love" everybody and toss out the "admonish" portion. He says he's evangelizing. By what he's espousing he's a proponent of an "it's all good" theology, and that's NOT Christianity, and he's using this as a venue to support an errant belief system, and I won't stand idly by without throwing the bullshit flag...

732 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:23:52pm

re: #685 Thanos

Six states for African-Americans, is it, Mr Zirkle?
And how are you going to keep them there?
Build a wall all round? Perhaps some watchtowers?
Biggest KZ the world has seen, right?

That man needs to be de-barred.

733 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:23:57pm

re: #722 Thanos

I'm glad I stopped reading!

That's insane, ugly, and I'm picturing him having to wipe the drool off his lips afterwards. Gah!

734 Roger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:23:59pm

re: #722 Thanos

Wow! It is a wonder an arm didn't come out of that picture and pat his shoulder!

735 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:24:10pm

HE sounds like a Kos Kid.

736 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:24:46pm

re: #724 looking closely

Not stupid. Evil.

Also, he's not a graduate of the Naval Academy. Claims to have attended, though.

/99% of lawyers give all the rest a bad name.

737 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:25:01pm

re: #724 looking closely

It appears - and I am relying on someone else's report - that he was only USNA for one year.

738 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:25:20pm

Dianna,

Yeah, I probably should read up on it. What I'm seeing here a bunch of people all pretending to be holier than the next guy. I don't care if the next guy is a Nazi or a pedophile or the Pope, it's nothing but vanity.

739 UFO TOFU  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:25:36pm

re: #723 Dianna
Killer flick!

740 Dustoff-507  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:25:40pm

re: #715 Ecclesiastes


I get the feeling your a tad to FULL of yourself.
Maybe you should try another website that thinks the way you do. Cause your making NO friends here.

741 AW  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:25:44pm

And this, boys and girls, is why Jews vote Democrat.

742 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:26:31pm

re: #736 Grammy Cracker

What do you call the Medical School student who came in last in his class?
.
.
.
.
.
DOCTOR.

743 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:26:33pm

re: #719 Dustoff-507

Maybe they found out who he was and kicked him out.

Tried to segregate the dorms.
/

744 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:26:45pm

We'd be totally in love with this guy, if after seeing the Hitler picture, he would have called 'em a bunch of silly ninnies, and told them off.

Other than that? I got nuthin.

745 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:26:59pm

re: #729 Render

One of the links said it was a medical discharge. But I couldn't find any confirmation.

If it was medical, I'm thinking Section Eight.

WARPED
PUCK,
R

Pardon my ignorance of military parlance; a *section 8* means he's friggin' nuts?

746 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:27:03pm

re: #685 Thanos

Not an innocent nutball - true believer:

Zirkle says segregation is worth a debate again

At least he's not prejudiced against Hispanics.
/

747 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:27:06pm

re: #730 buzzsawmonkey

The Dem primaries would be if the splort were to take place in slow-motion, with every drop lovingly detailed.

748 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:27:07pm
749 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:27:21pm

re: #728 Occasional Reader

Oh FOR CHRIST'S SAKE... YES, PUN INTENDED... this asshole's Nazi sympathies have been pointed out over and over again on this thread.

So are you ready to apologize for your moronic remarks calling us anti-Christian? Or are you just a moby?

This one is incompetent as a moby so now it's taken to just trolling in the "safe zone" of the persecuted Christian persona.

It's depressingly pathetic in it's lingering lameness.

750 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:27:37pm

re: #743 jcm

Or the goose stepping...

751 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:28:02pm

He just spoke about German science and scientists! Rockets! Etc.

REpeat after me, E-I-N-S-T-E-I-N.

Nazis are dumb.

752 Thanos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:28:02pm

If he was witnessing, it was for white power, not Jesus.

753 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:28:14pm

re: #715 Ecclesiastes

paxnhymn,

"do you stand up in front of them as a group and ignore the fact that their drunks or drug addicts? If you do, then you're wrong too..."

You are an authority on this, of course. Some time this next week, when I'm trying to help someone, I'll pass your wisdom along.

The point is, he wasn't trying to witness to anyone. Zirkle is lying.

754 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:28:33pm

re: #742 Ben Hur

What do you call the Medical School student who came in last in his class?
.
.
.
.
.
DOCTOR.

I met him once! LOL

755 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:28:42pm

re: #713 buzzsawmonkey

You may well be right--but there are damned few people, even among the half-educated clueless, who would not turn tail and run from an event displaying large Nazi flags.

Zirkle is one of those few.


Again, I don't believe that he is that stupid (only that such stupid people do in fact exist).

If the above mentioned link is to be believed, he is a graduate of the US Naval Academy, so he has zero excuse for not knowing at least a *little* bit about the Nazis.

And again, the guy is quite obviously a loon. He's unlikely to get elected to dog-catcher in his own hometown, let alone to Congress.

756 Sol Roth  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:29:05pm

BBL

757 Dustoff-507  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:29:22pm

re: #743 jcm
LOL, you could be right

758 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:29:30pm

re: #738 Ecclesiastes

Ah. I see. However, this wasn't vanity.

When in doubt, assume the Lizards are speed readers. This was linked this morning in another thread - and I know a number of people read it. I did - but then I had to work, so I had no comment. Also, note the speed with which other links and material appeared.

No, this was informed, and worried, commentary.

759 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:29:38pm

re: #751 Ben Hur

He just spoke about German science and scientists! Rockets! Etc.

REpeat after me, E-I-N-S-T-E-I-N.

Nazis are dumb.

Unfortunately for the Allies, the Nazis had many damn good scientists, even after purging the Jewish ones. Herr Von Braun, for instance. They were no slouches in the technology department.

760 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:29:41pm

re: #674 Ecclesiastes

Sol Roth,

That would be number 1 - I haven't bothered to read it. If y'all are stuck on the idea that one has to look good while witnessing the gospel, I don't think I'd find the rest of your "reasoning" to be helpful.

Y'all dress up nice on Sundays, I'm sure. I visit with drunks and drug addicts during the week in a t-shirt and jeans.

Well then, who are we to argue? I reverse my position 180 degrees!

Clearly it is fine and dandy to ba neo-nazi racist white supremist, just so long as we say we're a chrsitian 'spreading the word.'

(Really, Lance?)

No, not really. THis individual is a dolt. At best.

re: #715 Ecclesiastes

paxnhymn,

"do you stand up in front of them as a group and ignore the fact that their drunks or drug addicts? If you do, then you're wrong too..."

You are an authority on this, of course. Some time this next week, when I'm trying to help someone, I'll pass your wisdom along.

Well, remember when you're evanglizing to them that you remind them that doing illegal drugs is good and honorable, and be sure to issue press releases in which you discuss the BENEFITS of doing heroin... according to you, it would be unchrsitian to suggest that what they do is wrong or harmful.

761 Dustoff-507  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:29:51pm

re: #742 Ben Hur


HEY!

762 paint-right  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:29:51pm

Mr Ecclesiastes likes to brag about his "helping " someone.

not very humble or Christian IIRC

763 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:30:15pm

re: #730 buzzsawmonkey

Bambi meets Godzilla

764 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:30:32pm

re: #715 Ecclesiastes

paxnhymn,

"do you stand up in front of them as a group and ignore the fact that their drunks or drug addicts? If you do, then you're wrong too..."

You are an authority on this, of course. Some time this next week, when I'm trying to help someone, I'll pass your wisdom along.


why yes, I am an authority on this. And your point is...

765 Render  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:30:37pm

re: #745 Grammy Cracker

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

It used to mean that. They use another term for it these days...

NEW
STUFF,
R

766 Roger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:30:46pm

Charles? Is there any way the name of one of my favorite Books of the Bible written by a very intelligent man , Ecclesiastes, be taken away from available nics?

767 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:31:23pm

re: #738 Ecclesiastes

Dianna,

Yeah, I probably should read up on it. What I'm seeing here a bunch of people all pretending to be holier than the next guy. I don't care if the next guy is a Nazi or a pedophile or the Pope, it's nothing but vanity.

Moral equivalence is unbecoming. When evil presents itself the evil must be confronted. Then maybe the individual who has sold himself to evil may be saved. You don't give evil a pass... ever.

No one is being holier than, except you. We are discussing a political candidate with ugly politics.

768 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:31:27pm

re: #735 Ben Hur

HE sounds like a Kos Kid.

KOS kid nothing, he sounds like a neo-nazi white supremacist... or at least an apologist for them.

769 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:31:30pm

re: #753 Ward Cleaver

I didn't get that out of what paxnhymn said at all. paxnhymn demands that one pass judgment before trying to help. I didn't see him reference Zirkle in that.

770 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:31:41pm

re: #755 looking closely

I'm not that familiar with Canoe U, but I doubt someone can transfer in for their last year of college and graduate. More likely he started there and washed out / got a medical out / left on own.

771 Hookecho  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:31:44pm

Man if there is one thing I hate its Indiana Nazis, and their Ford Pinto Wagons and their hand painted eagle sculptures...er...wait...

What a moron indeed!

772 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:31:57pm

re: #738 Ecclesiastes

Dianna,

Yeah, I probably should read up on it. What I'm seeing here a bunch of people all pretending to be holier than the next guy. I don't care if the next guy is a Nazi or a pedophile or the Pope, it's nothing but vanity.

You're the only one with a 'hollier than the next guy' attitude.

773 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:32:06pm

re: #745 Grammy Cracker

Pardon my ignorance of military parlance; a *section 8* means he's friggin' nuts?

A bowl of granola, fruits, nuts and flakes. That's section *.

774 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:32:50pm

re: #759 Occasional Reader


Einstein!

*sticks out tongue*

775 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:32:59pm

re: #741 AW

And this, boys and girls, is why Jews vote Democrat.

why? because the Democrats hold UP the white supremasts (Robert Byrd) and neo-nazis, and the Republicans trash them and boot them out of the party?

776 Egfrow  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:33:00pm

Every time there is an article like this it always seems to be from the Mid-West states such as Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, etc.. This concerns me some.

777 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:33:05pm

re: #772 LanceKates

You're the only one with a 'hollier than the next guy' attitude.

GMTA! see my 767!

778 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:33:35pm

re: #760 LanceKates

Well, remember when you're evanglizing to them that you remind them that doing illegal drugs is good and honorable, and be sure to issue press releases in which you discuss the BENEFITS of doing heroin... according to you, it would be unchrsitian to suggest that what they do is wrong or harmful.

Well, hell... the way I read the moby's posts, it thinks you can't bear Christian witness unless you're doing what your sinners of choice are doing. So I guess it does dope and swills hooch with those it seeks to save. Pathetic.

779 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:33:40pm

I am the least holy.

780 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:34:22pm

re: #779 Ben Hur

I am the least holy.

Did you get another piercing?
;-P

781 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:34:35pm

AND NOW, FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT...

From Auckland New Zealand, some friends of mine

Enjoy

782 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:34:35pm

re: #774 Ben Hur

Einstein!

*sticks out tongue*

He was actually Irish. Few realize this.

783 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:34:39pm

re: #770 Athos

I have a source. I can send an e-mail and ask.

Should I, or do we care that much?

784 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:35:23pm

re: #765 Render

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

It used to mean that. They use another term for it these days...

NEW
STUFF,
R

Mentally unfit for service. I call mentally unfit for humanity.

785 BulgarWheat  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:35:50pm

sorry for joining so late. There's no way I can catch up with all of this.

Where did they find this forgin' nazi hugger?

Hit bottom, start diggin'.

Shit. This guy needs his ass readjusted

786 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:35:56pm

re: #779 Ben Hur

I am the least holy.

Kilgore probably has you beat there.

787 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:35:57pm

re: #764 paxnhymn

why yes, I am an authority on this. And your point is...

OK, and what kind of results have you gotten trying to help drunks straighten out their thinking by condemning them as evil in your introduction?

788 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:36:08pm

re: #782 Occasional Reader

He was actually Irish. Few realize this.


OK.

Now yer effen with me.

789 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:36:32pm

re: #781 A Kiwi Infidel

Kiwi - can ye e-mail me about that video, please?

790 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:36:35pm

re: #776 Egfrow

Every time there is an article like this it always seems to be from the Mid-West states such as Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, etc.. This concerns me some.

Don't worry. When people talk about racism, they'll just continue to act like the South is the only place it happens.

791 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:37:27pm

re: #783 Dianna

Ultimately, I don't think it's worth the effort. The guy is, basically, scum, and will not be elected. He condemns himself so completely with all of his other stupidity, that one more example will not make much of a difference.

792 CatsPaw  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:37:36pm

re: #141 Occasional Reader

Any chance this is a hoax?

Something just doesn't smell right here.

That's what I was thinking, too. Can any of our photoshop experts take a look at that photograph?

793 BulgarWheat  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:38:20pm

I'm eating beef jerkey in a hotel room, ...and I like it!

794 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:38:23pm

re: #792 CatsPaw

That's what I was thinking, too. Can any of our photoshop experts take a look at that photograph?


There's video.

You'll get to it in about 20 minutes of scrolling.

795 Boston Patriot  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:38:49pm

Is this any surprise?

There's two choices in the world of politics:

1) The government should be able to initiate the use of force against individuals to make them to do SOMETHING (that "something" comes in a million different forms: socialism, Christianity, Islam, nationalism, racism, etc etc etc...you name it).

2) The individual is left free to interact with other individuals on a voluntary, consensual basis; the only purpose of government is to use force in a retaliatory capacity to protect the individual from other individuals, gangs, and the government itself (which is the worst gang in mankind's history).

That's it. Two choices. I choose #2. The modern left and right choose #1. They just justify it differently.

796 looking closely  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:39:06pm

re: #737 Dianna

It appears - and I am relying on someone else's report - that he was only USNA for one year.

re: #770 Athos

I'm not that familiar with Canoe U, but I doubt someone can transfer in for their last year of college and graduate. More likely he started there and washed out / got a medical out / left on own.

Thanks for pointing this out. My mistake for thinking he graduated (and I'm a bit relieved to see he didn't).

My understanding is that you can't transfer in (only out).

You can come in with prior college work, but it won't transfer, meaning everyone in starts as a freshman.

797 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:39:26pm
798 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:39:27pm

re: #793 BulgarWheat

I'm eating beef jerkey in a hotel room, ...and I like it!

Client ¼

799 Cognito  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:39:43pm

re: #778 Grammy Cracker

Well, hell... the way I read the moby's posts, it thinks you can't bear Christian witness unless you're doing what your sinners of choice are doing. So I guess it does dope and swills hooch with those it seeks to save. Pathetic.

Wait, wait -- there's some sound thinking behind the idea that the worst elements need the most help. But that's not what this was about; 'witnessing' is only this white supremacist's laughable cover for his white supremacist activities. He's claiming his white sheet, so to speak, is only a choir robe.

Don't believe it. If I thought he was found among these people during a genuine effort to 'witness,' I'd be defending him for it. But it's just not the case.

800 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:40:03pm

re: #781 A Kiwi Infidel

AND NOW, FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT...

From Auckland New Zealand, some friends of mine

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Enjoy

They're AMAZING! Are they actually from Auckland?

/NZ, one of my all-time favorite places on earth...

801 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:40:33pm

re: #788 Ben Hur

OK.

Now yer effen with me.

Nope. The O'Einsteins, of County Cork. Google it, people!

And don't even get me started on the historical forgetfulness regarding the McFermi family.

802 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:41:22pm
803 BulgarWheat  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:41:34pm

re: #798 jcm

Naw, I'm not a governor. Just a lowly worker bee. Just Jack Links peppered jerkey to keep me going until supper later on.

JCM, I knew I was gonna take crap for that and I posted it anyway.

heh!

804 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:41:39pm

Ecclesiastes,

you are more wrong than anyone who I have seen claim to evangelize. You don't evangelize, you enable..

Find this book, and study it well!

it is by a now messianic named Randy Newman( no not the "short people" guy!) and it will help you to REALLY help others...

I'm being sincere, because you may be doing more harm than good in the manner you are going. If you are as "open minded" as you proport to be, give it a shot. It will set you straight AND hone your skills...

805 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:41:49pm
806 debutaunt  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:41:54pm

re: #801 Occasional Reader

Nope. The O'Einsteins, of County Cork. Google it, people!

And don't even get me started on the historical forgetfulness regarding the McFermi family.

Close neighbors of the O'Bamas.

807 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:42:10pm

Hey, the KKK had regional headquarters in Hightstown NEW JERSEY.

That's the NORTHEAST.

I think.

808 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:42:15pm

re: #741 AW

And this, boys and girls, is why Jews vote Democrat.

What? ... "this" has almost nothing to do with the Republican party except that he's attempted to assume that mantle...try again.

809 Cognito  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:42:35pm

re: #801 Occasional Reader

Nope. The O'Einsteins, of County Cork. Google it, people!

And don't even get me started on the historical forgetfulness regarding the McFermi family.

Ah. Pardon. They were the McEinsteins, from County Donegol.

Get 'er straight, ring-kisser.

810 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:42:37pm

re: #779 Ben Hur

I am the least holy.

Nuh Uh...I'm less holy than you! And more humble!

811 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:42:46pm

re: #801 Occasional Reader

Nope. The O'Einsteins, of County Cork. Google it, people!

And don't even get me started on the historical forgetfulness regarding the McFermi family.

And I guess Oppenheimer dropped the apostrophe when he left the old country?

I'm fond of Guinness, does that count?

812 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:43:17pm

re: #799 Cognito

Wait, wait -- there's some sound thinking behind the idea that the worst elements need the most help. But that's not what this was about; 'witnessing' is only this white supremacist's laughable cover for his white supremacist activities. He's claiming his white sheet, so to speak, is only a choir robe.

Don't believe it. If I thought he was found among these people during a genuine effort to 'witness,' I'd be defending him for it. But it's just not the case.

I've been agreeing with your position since very early in the thread. I was referring to another poster's position on the matter.

/love the white sheet line, too, BTW

813 Cognito  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:43:40pm

Heh. 'Donegal' that is.

Back to me pints.

814 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:43:51pm

Whatever happened to "in the closet" racism?

815 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:44:07pm

re: #811 jcm

And I guess Oppenheimer dropped the apostrophe when he left the old country?

I'm fond of Guinness, does that count?

Definitely!

816 Cognito  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:44:27pm

re: #814 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Whatever happened to "in the closet" racism?

Maybe there's only so much room in there.

817 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:44:30pm

re: #814 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Whatever happened to "in the closet" racism?

No room, full of sheets with eye holes.

818 paxnhymn  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:44:42pm

re: #787 Ecclesiastes

OK, and what kind of results have you gotten trying to help drunks straighten out their thinking by condemning them as evil in your introduction?

moving the goalposts. again? You've already got your hands slapped
for that once!

819 konservo  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:46:28pm
re: #738 Ecclesiastes

What I'm seeing here a bunch of people all pretending to be holier than the next guy. I don't care if the next guy is a Nazi or a pedophile or the Pope, it's nothing but vanity.

You are so right. I mean... who are we to say that our beliefs are better than, for example, the beliefs of mass murderers? You know?

/idiot.

820 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:46:38pm

re: #811 jcm

I'm fond of Guinness, does that count?

Which is a heavy stout. Heavy... as in heavy water... get it? You can read all about this in my forthcoming book, How the Irish Invented Nuclear Science.

821 Roger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:46:57pm

re: #802 buzzsawmonkey

or cow bell...

822 Cognito  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:47:20pm

re: #787 Ecclesiastes

OK, and what kind of results have you gotten trying to help drunks straighten out their thinking by condemning them as evil in your introduction?

Let's start over. I'm always willing to give the benefit of the doubt, at first. So I have to ask: Do you -- honestly -- feel that this fellow was there in an effort to help these people overcome bad habits?

823 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:47:36pm

re: #797 buzzsawmonkey

The Chicago area was also the stronghold of the America First Committee.

824 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:47:42pm

re: #787 Ecclesiastes

OK, and what kind of results have you gotten trying to help drunks straighten out their thinking by condemning them as evil in your introduction?

What does that have to do with a racist nazi-supporter claiming that he was 'evangelizing'? What does that have to do with your defense of a racist nazi-supporter claiming that he was 'evangelizing'?

825 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:47:53pm

re: #820 Occasional Reader

Which is a heavy stout. Heavy... as in heavy water... get it? You can read all about this in my forthcoming book, How the Irish Invented Nuclear Science.

I thought it was Yahoo Serious.

826 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:47:56pm

re: #820 Occasional Reader

Which is a heavy stout. Heavy... as in heavy water... get it? You can read all about this in my forthcoming book, How the Irish Invented Nuclear Science.

You've sold me! Another pint please, research you know.

827 x-ray  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:48:02pm

re: #787 Ecclesiastes
A proverb for you

Never do evil that good may come of it.

And for the bulk of your arguments

Never bolt your door with a boiled carrot.

828 Digger Dan  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:48:39pm

re: #389 mama winger

What he is doing is not witnessing, it is pandering.

Good point. Some of the discussion was getting as loopy as the man himself.

829 VegasRick  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:49:08pm

re: #824 LanceKates

What does that have to do with a racist nazi-supporter claiming that he was 'evangelizing'? What does that have to do with your defense of a racist nazi-supporter claiming that he was 'evangelizing'?

I am going to use that one next time my wifey catches me at a strip club.

830 CatsPaw  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:49:19pm

re: #794 Ben Hur

Thanks. Scrolling further down I can see I was premature in my giving the benefit of the doubt to this freak...

831 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:50:18pm

re: #829 VegasRick

I am going to use that one next time my wifey catches me at a strip club.

Yep, redemption with the clang of a fry pan on the noggin'.

832 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:50:27pm

Good night my fellow Lizards.

833 Irene NYC  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:50:32pm

re: #781 A Kiwi Infidel

WOW! What a family. That was terrific!

834 brogers  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:50:41pm

Let me channel an Obama supporter:

He's probably been going to those meetings for 20 years, but had no idea whatsoever that they were big fans of Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany, because he happened to miss the meetings where they actually said such things. I'm sure he thinks their some of their statements might be "controversial" but they're like crazy uncles y'know, everyone's got one!

835 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:50:47pm
Never do evil that good may come of it.

Kind of puts a damper on the whole "By any means necessary."

836 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:50:54pm

re: #832 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Nite BDVM!

837 Cognito  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:51:07pm

re: #820 Occasional Reader

Which is a heavy stout. Heavy... as in heavy water... get it? You can read all about this in my forthcoming book, How the Irish Invented Nuclear Science.

"C'mere, Padraic, and look at 'er glowin' such a beautiful Kelly Green. Ain't it the craic?"

838 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:51:27pm

re: #829 VegasRick

I am going to use that one next time my wifey catches me at a strip club.

according to this dink, we're supposed to go there in order to 'reach sinners' so I guess I"ll meet you at the club.

So as to 'get my foot in the door' to some possible sinners, I'm going to bring a bunch of ones.

To reach out to the strippers, I'll bring some bigger bills for table dances.

839 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:51:38pm

Speaking of religious wars... here we go, campers:

Jeff Cooper's "Modern Technique" versus Point Shooting.

Comments, please.

840 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:52:01pm

re: #820 Occasional Reader

Which is a heavy stout. Heavy... as in heavy water... get it? You can read all about this in my forthcoming book, How the Irish Invented Nuclear Science.

841 UFO TOFU  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:52:13pm

Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Was it you who mentioned last week enjoying Silver Bullets with Grand Marnier?

842 A. van Hilten  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:52:18pm
Who let this Neanderthal into the Republican Party?

The creationists?

Oh, but don't you know Charles—it's all part of God's plan. Apparently, His plan has some glitches too... Trifling things like the Holocaust and its denial.

Too bad He really screwed up that one big time. Or was it just in the freakin' blueprint, too? Did the Jews need to be taught a lesson? And what would that be?

Boy, if he really made us in His image, that says a lot more about Him than it does about us, doesn't it?

843 wolfie  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:52:49pm

re: #827 x-ray

Never bolt your door with a boiled carrot.

Might as well go fix dinner.
Can't expect any greater gem of wisdom than that! :D

844 Cognito  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:53:06pm

re: #842 A. van Hilten

The creationists?

Oh, but don't you know Charles—it's all part of God's plan. Apparently, His plan has some glitches too... Trifling things like the Holocaust and its denial.

Too bad He really screwed up that one big time. Or was it just in the freakin' blueprint, too? Did the Jews need to be taught a lesson? And what would that be?

Boy, if he really made us in His image, that says a lot more about Him than it does about us, doesn't it?

Well that all makes a lot of sense.

845 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:53:08pm

re: #839 Occasional Reader

Speaking of religious wars... here we go, campers:

Jeff Cooper's "Modern Technique" versus Point Shooting.

Comments, please.

Believe it or not (and given my 'gun nut' status, you'll likely believe it) my dad and I have had that argument.

I support the weaver stance, he was taught in the Marines to shoot with one hand by pointing at your target rather than lining up sights.

846 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:53:10pm

re: #800 Grammy Cracker


Well, north of Auckland, away from the smoke. Live on a farmlet.

Please to read you enjoyed that. I was most impressed.

Oh, and with regard the other matter under discussion, here is something to meditate on.

It is not what we do that makes us sinners, it is what we are.

Read Gen 3, the fall especially 3:7

847 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:53:11pm

BBL

848 Athos  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:53:14pm

re: #838 LanceKates

That one on one counseling is very important.

849 So?  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:53:19pm

Probably has a swastika tatooed on his ass which he looks at every morning.

850 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:53:30pm

re: #842 A. van Hilten

Your childish rant just got dinged down... by an atheist, no less.

851 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:53:46pm

re: #842 A. van Hilten

Rather offensive.

852 Tumulus11  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:54:15pm

. Tony Zirkle's failure at everything he's ever tried in life, and his
obsession with pornography, and his mental health problems, and his partying with Nazis in full regalia, and his eligibility to present himself as a Republican candidate are, collectively, disturbing.

853 VegasRick  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:54:23pm

re: #831 jcm

Yep, redemption with the clang of a fry pan on the noggin'.

But honey...I was just trying to show them the error of their ways!

854 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:54:28pm

re: #841 UFO TOFU

Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Was it you who mentioned last week enjoying Silver Bullets with Grand Marnier?

Hell Yes! Did you like it?

855 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:54:49pm

re: #738 Ecclesiastes

I don't care if the next guy is a Nazi or a pedophile or the Pope,

And you are linking these three altogether because ...

856 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:54:51pm

Anyway, going home now for long weekend and to some house-finishing

Catcha y'all in 4 days.

God Bless

857 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:55:09pm

re: #848 Athos

That one on one counseling is very important.

*stripper grinding into lap*

Have I told you, miss, about Jesus?

. . . . yeah, that's the ticket...

engaging in sinful immoral behavior, only to be justified by hiding behind 'evangelism' is the worst sort of hypocrisy.

858 MPH  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:55:16pm

So long as he is a Christian, right?

859 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:55:31pm
860 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:55:46pm

re: #845 LanceKates

I support the weaver stance

I tend to do a modified Weaver stance, one foot forward, leaning into the pistol.

At the legendary Reaganite's Retirement Party, a Green Beret told me I should do full Weaver, because "that way you're presenting your body armor square on to your opponent." Later, I thought, "in the highly unlikely event I'm ever in a gunfight, it's even less likely I'll be wearing body armor."

861 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:56:08pm

re: #839 Occasional Reader

Speaking of religious wars... here we go, campers:

Jeff Cooper's "Modern Technique" versus Point Shooting.

Comments, please.

Interesting, I was trained by an LE agency we used a combination, depending on situation.

Known dangerous situation, Modern. Weapon up and sights used.

In a suddenly developing situation start with Point, rapid draw, two rounds pointed, you've got rounds at the target, then bring it up to the modern for aimed rounds.

862 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:56:11pm

re: #842 A. van Hilten

What on earth?

863 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:56:37pm

re: #838 LanceKates

according to this dink, we're supposed to go there in order to 'reach sinners' so I guess I"ll meet you at the club.

So as to 'get my foot in the door' to some possible sinners, I'm going to bring a bunch of ones.

To reach out to the strippers, I'll bring some bigger bills for table dances.

Yer not gonna throw the money changer cashier into the street are ya?

864 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:56:44pm

re: #850 Occasional Reader

I think it's going to be a common response the Stein's historic revisionism of the Holocaust. Darwin is going to be a punchline in Nazi jokes from now on. One of the most effective tools against holocaust denial is mockery.

865 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:56:49pm

re: #845 LanceKates

he was taught in the Marines to shoot with one hand

Back in the day. I think these days not even the Marines advocate one-handed shooting. Could be wrong.

866 maddogg  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:57:10pm
He also told WIMS radio in Michigan City that he didn’t believe the event he attended included people necessarily of the Nazi mindset, pointing out the name isn’t Nazi, but Nationalist Socialist Workers Party.

Mebbe it wouldn't kill you to pick up a book once in a while dumbshit, take a break from surfing the porn sites.

867 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:57:12pm

re: #797 buzzsawmonkey

A book I might read some day:
Notre Dame vs. The Klan

During two days of riots in May 1924, Notre Dame students took on the Indiana Ku Klux Klan. The KKK wasn't reacting to the students' race but to their religion -- Catholicism. "Look around: they are already taking over the schools, flaunting our laws, changing the very nature of the United States, a Protestant country at its birth," a KKK leader asserted at a state rally in the early 1920s.
868 UFO TOFU  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:57:16pm

re: #854 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm afraid to admit I did. Just to be sure, I tried it again Saturday, but substituted this (at 11 ounces, it's a true lite beer). Even better!

/Lance please take note

869 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:57:22pm

re: #860 Occasional Reader

I also have to use a modified weaver stance... not to give extra support against recoil, but because my 'rotund nature' does not lend itself well to a strict weaver stance.

As for survivability, I don't EXPECT to survive my first gunfight... but my chances are MUCH higher if I'm armed too.

870 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:57:23pm

re: #842 A. van Hilten

The creationists?

Oh, but don't you know Charles—it's all part of God's plan. Apparently, His plan has some glitches too... Trifling things like the Holocaust and its denial.

Too bad He really screwed up that one big time. Or was it just in the freakin' blueprint, too? Did the Jews need to be taught a lesson? And what would that be?

Boy, if he really made us in His image, that says a lot more about Him than it does about us, doesn't it?

Got issues?

871 chief long name  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:57:29pm

re: #793 BulgarWheat
Me too, funny.

872 Grammy Cracker  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:57:37pm

re: #846 A Kiwi Infidel

Well, north of Auckland, away from the smoke. Live on a farmlet.

Please to read you enjoyed that. I was most impressed.

Oh, and with regard the other matter under discussion, here is something to meditate on.

It is not what we do that makes us sinners, it is what we are.

Read Gen 3, the fall especially 3:7

Grandpa Cracker keeps talking about retiring to NZ someday. It's up for discussion...LOL

I agree - we're all sinners. I don't think you can help a sinner by joining him in his sin, though. Love the sinner, hate the sin.

873 So?  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:57:56pm

re: #842 A. van Hilten

The creationists?

Oh, but don't you know Charles—it's all part of God's plan. Apparently, His plan has some glitches too... Trifling things like the Holocaust and its denial.

Too bad He really screwed up that one big time. Or was it just in the freakin' blueprint, too? Did the Jews need to be taught a lesson? And what would that be?

Boy, if he really made us in His image, that says a lot more about Him than it does about us, doesn't it?

GOD didn't create Hiltler. We did. By allowing someone of his ilk to come to power. It's still happening today around the world. So what you do with your roadmap is your responsibility. You can drive into a lake or into the sunset.

874 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:58:01pm
875 mama winger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:58:02pm

re: #787 Ecclesiastes

OK, and what kind of results have you gotten trying to help drunks straighten out their thinking by condemning them as evil in your introduction?

You keep asserting that the man is a preacher of the Gospel, and an evangelist on a soul-saving mission. All evidence, both written and on tape, supports the position that he is a partaker in evil, not an encourager of good.

You are an apologist for Satan. You are a wolf in sheep's clothing. I say this with firmness of conviction and with no apology.

You call evil good, and good evil. Get behind me, Stan.

876 Dianna  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:58:13pm

re: #839 Occasional Reader

I tend to use the "modern technique", but I've practiced both. I prefer modern because I shoot a .45 with a long barrel.

877 eaglewingz08  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:58:14pm

Just the fact that this moron doesn't know that Nazi and National Socialist are identical terms (they mean the same thing in words of one syl a ble) should disqualify him from public office for life and every school that he attended should revoke their diplomas because he obviously was passed from grade to grade without doing any coursework and certainly didn't have enough intelligence to pass any tests. Unless the man went up in front of the group and told them that their beliefs were vile, unamerican and that we lost hundreds of thousands of our great generation because of their ideological forbears and Europeans and our Jewish brethren lost incalculable souls because of their beliefs and actions, this man should be toast.
Moreover, the only ones who should be defending this cretin are the Obamanation's supporters who supported his twenty year association with Rev Wright. Other than those intellectually and morally vacuous people, that candidate is persona non grata and the Repubs should immediately revoke their endorsement of him and compel him to get out of the race.

878 republic  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:58:16pm

re: #839 Occasional Reader

Speaking of religious wars... here we go, campers:

Jeff Cooper's "Modern Technique" versus Point Shooting.

Comments, please.

I've read Jeff Cooper in gun mags most of my life.

He is/was the 1911 guru, I like his teachings so much, that I recently bought a Ed Brown "Jeff Cooper Commemorative" 1911.

What a solid handgun.

879 infidel Alan  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:58:17pm

re: #724 looking closely

I find it shocking that this man is a graduate of the US Naval academy.

For some reason, I'm not particularly surprised to see he's also a divorce lawyer.

He was supposedly Valedictorian of his high school, but that isn't necessarily a big accomplishment (depending on the size and constituency of said high school).

So, for such a smart guy, why is he so stupid?

He's not stupid, he's very bright but he's crazy and has no idea, not a clue why he is at odds with almost everybody he encounters and why people don't respect his ideas. I've known people like him and they always are in trouble of some sort and it's always someone else's fault. It often takes a while to recognize borderline mental illness in people who are really bright because they've been concealing their "differences" all their lives and they're really good at it. From his resume, this guy seems to be getting worse over time but he may be able to avoid medical intervention indefinitely.

BTW, he spent only one year at the Naval Academy--not a graduate.

880 Cognito  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:58:19pm

re: #844 Cognito

Well that all makes a lot of sense.

Got dinged down for this, to some amusement. It was sarcasm.

881 Rancher  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:58:37pm

re: #855 mama winger
Because of Bill Maher.

882 So?  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:59:07pm

re: #862 Dianna

What on earth?

or below it...

883 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:59:12pm

re: #865 Occasional Reader

Back in the day. I think these days not even the Marines advocate one-handed shooting. Could be wrong.

well, yeah, he was in before vietnam.

THey changed their firearm instruction for the longest time, using less rounds to save money, but in the last few years changed it back... they found out they were sending out less prepared shootists.

I'm not sure if they changed the philosophy behind the pistol or not.

884 Ecclesiastes  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:59:16pm

re: #804 paxnhymn

First, despite Dianna's testimony to your reading speed, you've missed that I don't evangelize.

Second, I happen to think there is a big difference between saying someone is screwed up and saying they are evil. I'm fine with saying somebody is screwed up.

To the stated topic of Zirkle's address, he was cautioning against porn. I don't see how that is embracing Nazism. Nor do I see how, analogously, telling a drunk not to write bad checks is sharing a beer with them.

I keep reading about how Zirkle is a white supremacist, but I haven't seen where he is quoted in support of such a position.

Finally, regarding "enabling", being an pompous judgmental asshole when dealing with a drunk is arguably "enabling" as well, providing an ad hominem excuse for him to ignore otherwise good information. I will look into the book you reference.

885 VegasRick  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:59:21pm

re: #842 A. van Hilten

The creationists?

Oh, but don't you know Charles—it's all part of God's plan. Apparently, His plan has some glitches too... Trifling things like the Holocaust and its denial.

Too bad He really screwed up that one big time. Or was it just in the freakin' blueprint, too? Did the Jews need to be taught a lesson? And what would that be?

Boy, if he really made us in His image, that says a lot more about Him than it does about us, doesn't it?

re: #844 Cognito

Well that all makes a lot of sense.


Birds of a feather.

886 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:59:44pm

re: #861 jcm

Interesting, I was trained by an LE agency we used a combination, depending on situation.

Known dangerous situation, Modern. Weapon up and sights used.

Hm. Good point. I do try to practice different techniques, and also one-hand and weak-hand shooting. But I figure I should emphasize one technique.

887 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:59:46pm
888 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 2:59:58pm

re: #868 UFO TOFU

I'm afraid to admit I did. Just to be sure, I tried it again Saturday, but substituted this (at 11 ounces, it's a true lite beer). Even better!

/Lance please take note

I missed something... what am I supposed to drink? heh.

889 jcm  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:00:31pm

re: #869 LanceKates

As for survivability, I don't EXPECT to survive my first gunfight... but my chances are MUCH higher if I'm armed too.


You familiar with The Bulletproof Mind
?

Expect to win. Always.

890 Occasional Reader  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:00:47pm

re: #878 republic

Ed Brown "Jeff Cooper Commemorative" 1911.

Dare I ask how much that lovely piece of hardware cost?

891 Cognito  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:01:00pm

re: #884 Ecclesiastes


I keep reading about how Zirkle is a white supremacist, but I haven't seen where he is quoted in support of such a position.


Are you quite serious?

How does this strike you?:

“We could have six states that are African American, 44 states white and Hispanic, because I don't really see much of a difference between the two cultures. Let people vote and let them decide."

892 SDC  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:01:00pm

re: #845 LanceKates

Believe it or not (and given my 'gun nut' status, you'll likely believe it) my dad and I have had that argument.

I support the weaver stance, he was taught in the Marines to shoot with one hand by pointing at your target rather than lining up sights.

Borrow a shot timer from the local IPSC/USPSA section, and put it to the test; you'll be able to PROVE which method is faster, and at what ranges. At any range past arm's-length, Cooper's method will easily win out.

893 el brujo  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:01:13pm

What's in the water in Chicago?

894 Cognito  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:01:22pm

re: #885 VegasRick

Birds of a feather.

Sarcasm.

895 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:01:28pm
896 Piltdown Man  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:01:31pm

re: #877 eaglewingz08

Just the fact that this moron doesn't know that Nazi and National Socialist are identical terms (they mean the same thing in words of one syl a ble) should disqualify him from public office for life

He knows very well they are the same thing. Just a little nuance for the reporter who failed to mention they are the same thing, which is worse then him trying to weasel out of it with that weak defense.

897 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:01:49pm

re: #886 Occasional Reader

Hm. Good point. I do try to practice different techniques, and also one-hand and weak-hand shooting. But I figure I should emphasize one technique.

I also work hard to shoot equally well with both hands.

I'd say that my right hand scores about 20% better than my left.

Not HORRIDLY bad, considering.

898 Roger  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:02:09pm
Matthew 10:11"Whatever town or village you enter, search for some worthy person there and stay at his house until you leave. 12As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town.

If Nazis accept your message without repentance and conversion, you may want to rethink your own salvation.

899 VegasRick  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:02:26pm

re: #880 Cognito

Got dinged down for this, to some amusement. It was sarcasm.


Then use a sarc tag.

900 nikis-knight  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:02:54pm

re: #787 Ecclesiastes

OK, and what kind of results have you gotten trying to help drunks straighten out their thinking by condemning them as evil in your introduction?

Drunks ain't Nazis.
Woe unto those who call good evil and evil good.

901 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 23, 2008 3:02:56pm

re: #889 jcm

You familiar with The Bulletproof Mind
?

Expect to win. Always.

link doesn't work here, but I've heard simliar ideas in martial arts.

I'm too much