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Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 2:59:08 am PDT

The unforgivable crime is soft hitting.  Do not hit at all if it can be avoided; but never hit softly. 

Theodore Roosevelt

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1 hayseed  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:01:10am

Good Morning All

2 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:01:16am

And carry a big stick.

Gooooood Morning LGF!

/it's my Friday, where's the beers?

3 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:01:46am

Morning hayseed, how's it going where you're at?

4 hayseed  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:02:36am

re: #2 BlueCanuck

It's still a little early for me

5 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:02:44am

re: #2 BlueCanuck

And carry a big stick.

Gooooood Morning LGF!

/it's my Friday, where's the beers?

i drank'em since they were warm and might be going bad......

why don't you run to the store?

6 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:03:38am

re: #4 hayseed

It's still a little early for me

hell, it's his fryday, he musta got paid!

7 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:03:43am

re: #5 redc1c4

*mutter mutter mutter* Damn Cav troopers.

8 hayseed  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:03:59am

beer run I'll throw some money in

9 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:03:59am

"Paging Tzippi and Olmert!"

10 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:04:16am

Where the heck is a Teddy when we need him?!

:-(

11 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:04:34am

How're things with you nice folks this morning?

12 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:05:21am

re: #11 galloping granny

Misbehavn' as usual. How are you doing granny?

13 rightside  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:05:53am

Morning Lizards!

14 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:06:05am

Goooood morning, LGF!

hayseed! :-)

American Jewess In Jerusalem! :-)

galloping granny! :-)

15 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:06:21am

rightside! :-)

16 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:07:14am

re: #10 littleoldlady

Where the heck is a Teddy when we need him?!

:-(

i hear the wimmen folk in Canuckistan like flannel Teddies.....

/white smoke

17 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:07:35am

re: #10 littleoldlady

I think they broke the mold and threw away the best materials.

18 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:07:54am

re: #12 BlueCanuck

Misbehavn' as usual. How are you doing granny?

Achey this morning, Blue. Put in a pretty full day of hauling wood and burning brush and climbing the hill and setting up a new compost bin and all that jazz yesterday, before I went to Home Depot and spent a couple hours on my feet hunting up fencing. Really pointed up to me that I am not getting younger. . . . .

19 rightside  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:07:54am

morning lol!

20 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:08:30am

re: #14 littleoldlady

Goooood morning, LGF!

hayseed! :-)

American Jewess In Jerusalem! :-)

galloping granny! :-)

Did I miss the fruitcup again, littleoldlady?

21 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:08:34am

re: #16 redc1c4

Keep your smoke, that ain't a rumour. It's troof!

/nicer than flannel sheets. They come with a heat source. ;)

22 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:08:56am

Morning

23 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:10:08am

re: #20 galloping granny

BlueCanuck has a secret stash in the 'fridge.

/be nice to him ;-)

storage! :-)

24 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:11:56am

re: #23 littleoldlady

BlueCanuck has a secret stash in the 'fridge.

/be nice to him ;-)

storage! :-)

you misspelled "fermenting" %-)

25 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:12:12am

re: #20 galloping granny

re: #23 littleoldlady

/passes galloping granny an unspiked fruitcup.

Enjoy. I keep fooling red with the decoys. :)

26 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:15:47am

re: #24 redc1c4

you misspelled "fermenting" %-)

Speaking of, I discovered something I did not know yesterday. I'm seeding a mushroom bed. (In case you guys have not gotten the idea yet, I am making a pretty darned good attempt to turn every available inch of this 1.5+ acres into land that produces something edible. Maybe a little space for beauty. No bushes unless they have fruit/) So, the instructions for the mushroom spore start with cutting up some straw in pieces about 1 inch long, covering it with water and letting it stand for 3 days, stirring now and then. Yesterday I went to stir it early morning and discovered that it is fermenting. Apparently I am making moonshine in a bucket in the back yard. HAHAHA!

/Morning storage!

27 rightside  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:16:20am

Has anyone seen this?

28 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:16:27am

re: #25 BlueCanuck

re: #23 littleoldlady

/passes galloping granny an unspiked fruitcup.

Enjoy. I keep fooling red with the decoys. :)

Thank you very much :) Little makes a fine fruit cup.

29 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:17:03am

Well, a Nazi fan was banned today.

Another borderline Nazi -and furibund atheist- was around that same thread, but he avoided the stick.
That was quite a thread.

About that (R): Poor guy didn't know that the Pope is Cath...
I mean, poor guy didn't know Hitler was a Nazi. :(

/he was taken for a ride, you see?

30 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:17:20am

re: #26 galloping granny
Good Morning.

31 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:17:46am

re: #27 rightside

Has anyone seen this?

Saw that a couple of days ago. Too bad they did not get a shot of the operators' face when this happened.

32 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:17:54am

re: #29 MigueldowninMexico

Well, a Nazi fan was banned today.

Another borderline Nazi -and furibund atheist- was around that same thread, but he avoided the stick.
That was quite a thread.

About that (R): Poor guy didn't know that the Pope is Cath...
I mean, poor guy didn't know Hitler was a Nazi. :(

/he was taken for a ride, you see?

who was it?

33 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:18:11am

Good morning, Lizards!

Its a typical April day here, on the other side of the Big Pond from you.
My apple trees have burst into flowers, and yesterday I planted a little cherry tree.
The autumn raspberries have new canes, the gooseberries are flowering - and I actually had to cut the grass yesterday for the first time this year!
I love spring, I do

34 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:19:00am

re: #29 MigueldowninMexico

Well, a Nazi fan was banned today.

Another borderline Nazi -and furibund atheist- was around that same thread, but he avoided the stick.
That was quite a thread.

About that (R): Poor guy didn't know that the Pope is Cath...
I mean, poor guy didn't know Hitler was a Nazi. :(

/he was taken for a ride, you see?

Speaking of Miguel, the kiddo (11) asked me the other day "Is the Pope Catholic?" It was all I could do to keep a straight face. (It was a sincere question.)

35 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:20:35am

re: #25 BlueCanuck

re: #23 littleoldlady

/passes galloping granny an unspiked fruitcup.

Enjoy. I keep fooling red with the decoys. :)

your song.

36 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:20:54am

Miguelito! :-)

Somebody I know?

37 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:21:19am

Wage jihad with sword and pen and ..

MANAMA, 24 April 2008 — While the global economic system rattled by the US subprime mortgage crisis, a distinguished speaker has said that ‘Islamic finance model’ is the only answer to this persistent economic turmoil.

Dr Mohammed Mahmud Awan, a leading scholar and Dean at Malaysia-based International Center for Education in Islamic Finance (INCEIF), told the participants of a conference in Manama that the current global economic crisis has opened many windows of opportunities for Islamic finance.

“This crisis is seen as a big opportunity for Islamic finance as it has the capacity and capability to bring stability to the market.”

[Link: www.arabnews.com...]

38 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:21:50am

re: #33 yma o hyd

Good morning, Lizards!

Its a typical April day here, on the other side of the Big Pond from you.
My apple trees have burst into flowers, and yesterday I planted a little cherry tree.
The autumn raspberries have new canes, the gooseberries are flowering - and I actually had to cut the grass yesterday for the first time this year!
I love spring, I do

Me too! The first daffodil bloomed in time to greet me yesterday morning. There will be two tomorrow. I just finished ordering 10 gooseberry bushes and 6 red currants. We are about jumping up and down that we found space for them. Many states in the US you cannot have them anymore (some disease or other that has since been eliminated). No raspberries yet. Or blueberries. Still clearing out the scrub on the hill to make room for some of those.

39 Shemesh  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:21:55am

Hello lizards,

Long time no post. Someone has told me about the following post that can't be linked to directly so I reproduce it below.
[Link: www.hurryupharry.bloghouse.net...]

Readers of Harry's Place will be familiar with the University College Union and its infamous activists' list. Well now they're at it again. No surprise there, of course. But this time some posters have excelled themselves in their bullying, bigotry and – it goes almost without saying – antisemitism.

Having read the emails circulating on this list what I can see is that some people (not necessarily even academics) are playing political football. Only here the referee, Matt (what's up?) Waddup, is making up the rules as he's going along.

In one of his *catchphrase* 'universally popular interventions' Waddup banned David Hirsh from posting on the list. Along with several other activists, Hirsh has been extremely effective in challenging the Union's proposed boycott of Israeli academics. It doesn't look as though he'll be allowed back on the list anytime soon and now people posting Hirsh's words and arguments are getting banned from the list as well.

As a sample of the toxic atmosphere, we have:

(1) Noel Douglas (programme leader in graphic design at the University of Bedfordshire) attacking a Jewish lecturer for having a 'basic lack of humanity when confronted with overwhelming evidence to the crimes of the Israeli State'.

The argument is that Jews divide into two types: the 'good' and the 'bad'.

For the likes of Douglas 'good' Jews are those who support the boycott, who desire the destruction of the Jewish character of the Israeli state (this is marketed as the 'one state solution'). 'Good' Jews are likely to maintain the fiction that Israel is a unique evil on the planet, an exceptionalism of the highest order. Sometimes they can be dead as well – just to be on the safe side, because it's difficult to contradict someone from the grave. Hence Douglas's cynical invocation of the Holocaust to protect himself from charges of antisemitism (yes, much like the boycott-promoting Tom Hickey of the SWP) he has designed a 'Love Music Hate Racism Carnival' programme which includes tributes to Holocaust survivors).

'Bad' Jews on the other hand appear for Douglas and others to argue in bad faith: they use the charge of antisemitism to stifle debate about the Israeli occupation. This is a classic antisemitic motif – Jews lie and therefore cannot be trusted. 'Bad' Jews are also 'Zionists' because even if they criticize the Israeli occupation of the West Bank they nonetheless accept the existence of the state on pre-1967 borders. This is disingenuous as Norman Geras, Hirsh and others have repeatedly argued.

(2) Jonathan Rosenhead (Professor Emeritus at the London School of Economics) lambasting another Jewish lecturer and colleague at the LSE. Conveniently forgetting Union directives about bullying in the workplace, he reprimands for not attending branch meetings, contemptuously dismissing her voice in this debate. A characteristic feature of Rosenhead's posts are ad hominem attacks, which do not compensate for the intellectual poverty of his arguments.

(3) Haim Bresheeth (Professor of Media and Cultural Studies at the University of East London) prefacing or ending every post with the formula that he speaks as a Jew as though this somehow protects him from criticism. Bresheeth has argued elsewhere that the 'lives of individuals, Jews and non Jews' were secondary to 'the Zionist enterprise in Palestine' and that is why the Zionists were involved in 'collaboration' with the Nazis 'over the death of almost a million Jews'. So that should be borne in mind when reading his latest hysterical outbursts;

'I want to confront this hypocrisy using anti-semitism as a rod against liberal and humanist critics of war crimes: I criticise Israel BECAUSE I am Jewish, because I am Israeli, because Nazi racists have killed my whole family and NO ONE DID ANYTHING TO STOP THEM!'

40 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:22:10am

re: #32 storagemanager

who was it?

His nick was Ecclesiastes.

41 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:22:49am

re: #34 galloping granny

Speaking of Miguel, the kiddo (11) asked me the other day "Is the Pope Catholic?" It was all I could do to keep a straight face. (It was a sincere question.)

Hahahahaha Granny.

/I imagine it was hard to be serious all along lol

42 Shemesh  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:23:06am

Like Douglas, he is fond of levelling the charge that 'bad' Jews use antisemitism to shut down debate. But he also seems to be linking Zionism with the tragic murder of his family. If that is the case then I pity him and recommend he seek psychiatric treatment.
[Continued]

Like Douglas, he is fond of levelling the charge that 'bad' Jews use antisemitism to shut down debate. But he also seems to be linking Zionism with the tragic murder of his family. If that is the case then I pity him and recommend he seek psychiatric treatment.


(4) Keith Hammond (Lecturer in Adult and Continuing Education at the University of Glasgow). He repeatedly argues
'No one should be scared off by this "anti-Semitism" stuff'; 'Let the anti-Semitism slurs fly - it is not as though the tactic is new or unexpected.'

For Hammond antisemitism is little more than a 'tactic' used by "Zionists" in bad faith to silence debate. In the words of Motion 30, passed by the University College Union: 'criticism of Israel cannot be construed as anti-Semitic'. Those who warned of the consequences of this clause have proven to be prophets. Antisemitism on the activists' list is now not even an inconvenient truth, merely an irritating distraction.

The University College Union is supposedly an anti-racist organization. But the boycott motion on the Congress agenda goes against the legal advice of Lord Lester, that the boycott would be unlawful, and discriminatory in effect.

Given its obsession with Israel and the Palestinians, given the poisonous antisemitism that Union officials enable on the activists' list, is it any wonder that many rank and file members have come to despair of UCU?

43 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:23:23am

re: #36 littleoldlady

Miguelito! :-)

Somebody I know?

Someone by the nick: Ecclesiastes.

44 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:24:55am

GoV turned on Robert..but who will Pam stand by now?

45 Shemesh  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:24:55am

And from the comments box of this article:

From: Noel Douglas

"let me make myself clear. I realise there is a 'left' within Israel
that is critical of the occupation but wishes to continue to see
Israel exist and have some form of two state solution, I presume this
is your position.

I think Israel and the Zionist project which drives it is
structurally driven to violence and oppression, aligned as it is with
US Imperialism and there, therefore can be no just peace without a
one secular state being created where Jews and Arabs live side by
side. I presume you think this is anti-semitic, despite there being a
rich tradition of anti-Zionist Judaism that would suggest otherwise.

Furthermore Israel's actions in the Occupied territories make a
Palestinian State unviable from the pock-marked landscape they are
left exist in.

So therefore to me, to support Israel, even if you think there is a
'good' Israel that can be separated from the 'bad' Israel, a
distinction which doesn't stand up to investigation of the evidence
of the *actual* actions of the Israeli State means that I would say
you implicitly support the dehumanisation of a whole people, the
Palestinians, therefore I think you lack some humanity and are being
wilfully blind.

At a deeper level, as Marxist and atheist, your beliefs are for me,
based not on reason but on a fairy tale called the 'Old Testament'
and this cannot be used to justify the ongoing situation as it
stands, my politics has in the main been taught to me by Jews who
were able to move beyond religion to take on a better explanatory
theory of the world, namely people like Trotsky, Luxemburg etc.

Finally the real victims of racism today, that is almost a par with
the anti-semtism of the 20/30s are not Jews, but Muslims and in my
experience those who attack me from the right by claiming I am anti-
semitic for wishing to see the end of the State of Israel, are rarely
to be seen actually confronting racism and Fascism on the streets and
where we live to make sure it cannot develop against anyone,
regardless of religion or lack of. I'm not suggesting that this fits
with your background as I don't know about that, but that is my
experience.

I prove my commitment to anti-semitism by action. Like, for instance,
the amount of work that I personally have put into the Love Music
Hate Racism carnival this weekend which will go further and have much
more effect in stopping the BNP and therefore stopping the growth of
anti-semitism than a thousand Engage websites and email to mailing
lists.

regards,
Noel [Douglas]"
(programme leader in graphic design at the University of Bedfordshire)

46 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:26:15am

re: #31 galloping granny

I think that was a demonstration. Too many people standing around in expectation.

47 Shemesh  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:26:17am

Also from the comments box of this article

"For a lecturer your grammar and sentence construction is pretty
appalling, your comment seems largely incoherent, but that's an aside.

I don't expect you to agree, what troubles me more is your basic lack of
humanity when confronted with overwhelming evidence to the crimes of the Israeli State.

I have no wish to see any Jews or anyone else harmed, I want a peaceful secular state in the Middle East where Jews and Arabs live side by side in peace like they used to, and in terms of my own political commitment I have been active against Racism and Fascism for years.

In fact I have just finished designing the 'Love Music Hate Racism'
Carnival Programme which includes tributes to Holocaust survivors, Leon Greenman and Henry Guterman who both sadly died this year. The Carnival, which will happen next Sunday in London, will be the largest show of anti-racist and anti-Fascist sentiment this country has shown for years. The Carnival's main aim is, of course, to stop the Fascist BNP from getting elected this May.

So I'm sorry to shatter your illusions but the charge of anti-semitism
just won't stand.

Best Wishes,
Noel Douglas
(programme leader in graphic design at the University of Bedfordshire)

48 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:26:30am

Good morning, Lizards! I'm bit late this morning.

49 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:26:51am

re: #27 rightside

Has anyone seen this?


A few days ago, four teen girls were inside of a car, in Mexico City, parked in front of a Hospital (so lucky for them). One of them started air-brushing her lap-top, when another one lit a cigarrette.
The ensuing explosion was incredible. Also incredible that the four or them came out of it in pretty good conditions -with the good luck of being taken inside the hospital immediately.
The took two of the girl's mom to the doctor and were waiting outside for her.
Video
Crazy things happen in a second at times.

50 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:27:11am

re: #27 rightside

Has anyone seen this?

Way cool!
Morning all. A lovely day here in the Commonwealth. The azaleas are in full bloom.

51 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:27:28am

re: #31 galloping granny

Saw that a couple of days ago. Too bad they did not get a shot of the operators' face when this happened.

Looks like a demonstration. Why are all those people hanging around in the rain unless they knew it was going to happen?

(Might even be a special effects shot. Imagine a giant practical tank car getting hit by a CGI element to be added later.)

52 hayseed  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:27:55am

re: #44 storagemanager

I read that this morning how sad

53 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:28:44am

re: #39 Shemesh

Hello lizards,

Long time no post.

if all you're going to do is quote long blocks of bollocks you could stay gone..... IMHO, of course. %-)

HTH! HAND!

54 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:29:48am

{Goddess!}

Re #47- I always wonder why the folks who fight against fascism and racism never ever mention communism. Are they proud of what Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot did?

55 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:29:56am

I need a coffee pot that can feed itself.

56 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:30:33am

re: #46 BlueCanuck

I think that was a demonstration. Too many people standing around in expectation.

Yeah. I agree. You don't draw a crowd like that in the rain unless they knew it was going to happen.

57 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:31:03am

re: #51 Dar ul Harb

Looks like a demonstration. Why are all those people hanging around in the rain unless they knew it was going to happen?

(Might even be a special effects shot. Imagine a giant practical tank car getting hit by a CGI element to be added later.)

You are probably right.
/I appear to be off my ball this morning. Guess I better make coffee.

58 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:31:31am

re: #2 BlueCanuck

And carry a big stick.

"Oh yeah? Well I speak LOUD! And I carry a BIGGER stick! And I use it, too!" -Yosemite Sam

59 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:31:35am

re: #55 storagemanager

I need a coffee pot that can feed itself.

I always wanted one that came with an IV drip.

60 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:31:40am

Shemesh! :-)

Good to see you!

61 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:31:53am

re: #38 galloping granny

Me too! The first daffodil bloomed in time to greet me yesterday morning. There will be two tomorrow. I just finished ordering 10 gooseberry bushes and 6 red currants. We are about jumping up and down that we found space for them. Many states in the US you cannot have them anymore (some disease or other that has since been eliminated). No raspberries yet. Or blueberries. Still clearing out the scrub on the hill to make room for some of those.

Daffodils - aww, I keep forgetting to mention that theya re the national flower of Wales, we've got our own native species!
They grow wild on the west Coast of wales, and are usually flowering from about the last week of February.
Thats why we stick them into our lapels (fresh, natch!) on st David's Day, which is the day of the Patron saint of Wales, March 1st ...

I've only got a tiny patch of back yard, which I share with my dogs, so am quite restricted in what I can grow, especially as its facing North, and is damp and shady!

62 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:32:17am

re: #55 storagemanager

I need a coffee pot that can feed itself.

Can you set yours up the night before? I do that that I just have to press the buttons in the morning.

63 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:33:09am
Julie Nixon Eisenhower, a daughter of former Republican president Richard Nixon, is supporting Democrat Barack Obama's presidential bid.
Eisenhower has donated $2,300 to the Illinois senator's campaign, the maximum primary season donation allowed under federal campaign finance regulations.

The former first daughter isn't the only member of the Eisenhower family supporting Obama's White House run. In February, her sister-in-law Susan Eisenhower endorsed the Illinois senator in a Washington Post op-ed.

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

64 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:33:18am

re: #61 yma o hyd

Daffodils - aww, I keep forgetting to mention that theya re the national flower of Wales, we've got our own native species!
They grow wild on the west Coast of wales, and are usually flowering from about the last week of February.
Thats why we stick them into our lapels (fresh, natch!) on st David's Day, which is the day of the Patron saint of Wales, March 1st ...

I've only got a tiny patch of back yard, which I share with my dogs, so am quite restricted in what I can grow, especially as its facing North, and is damp and shady!

What no leeks?

/grin

I do love daffodils.

65 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:33:39am

re: #34 galloping granny

Speaking of Miguel, the kiddo (11) asked me the other day "Is the Pope Catholic?" It was all I could do to keep a straight face. (It was a sincere question.)

You can't ask "Is the Pope Italian?" anymore.

And we won't even speculate about what he does in the woods...

66 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:34:18am

re: #61 yma o hyd

Daffodils - aww, I keep forgetting to mention that theya re the national flower of Wales, we've got our own native species!
They grow wild on the west Coast of wales, and are usually flowering from about the last week of February.
Thats why we stick them into our lapels (fresh, natch!) on st David's Day, which is the day of the Patron saint of Wales, March 1st ...

I've only got a tiny patch of back yard, which I share with my dogs, so am quite restricted in what I can grow, especially as its facing North, and is damp and shady!

Wales has a native daffodil? You learn something new every day. How does one get some? Can you buy them in the UK?

67 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:34:46am

re: #63 storagemanager

I'll take "What would it take to make daddy roll over in his grave?" for $200, Alex.

68 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:34:59am

re: #62 goddessoftheclassroom

Can you set yours up the night before? I do that that I just have to press the buttons in the morning.

We always forget...my wife was doing that for awhile.

69 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:35:32am

re: #64 goddessoftheclassroom

What no leeks?

/grin

I do love daffodils.

Heh - leeks are smelly, and I prefer to eat them rather than stick them in my lapel!
I suppose men think ist more manly to have a leek on their coat than a daff, but hey, each to their own!

70 rightside  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:36:51am

re: #50 Jim in Virginia

Morning Jim, I am in Va too!

71 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:36:54am

re: #62 goddessoftheclassroom

Can you set yours up the night before? I do that that I just have to press the buttons in the morning.

Except that if you are a fresh ground nut like I am the coffee goes stale overnight. I used to have one of those thermal pots that will keep the coffee hot for hours. Worked several jobs at the time, so I would make coffee when I came in from one at midnight and stash it beside the bed with a cup so I only had to roll over when it was time to roust the girls.

72 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:37:30am

re: #68 storagemanager

We always forget...my wife was doing that for awhile.

I went through a "blue" period this past winter where I felt so out of control. One thing I FORCED myself to do was set up breakfast--I do it right after supper. The discipline really helped me get a grip, and now I'm doing so much better.

My new goal is opening and disposing of mail as it arrives instead of letting it create a mountain...

73 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:39:23am

A jeeze, a new friend just wrote to greet me in the name of the Lord and tell me all about how terrible it is that she has been unable to have a child for 11 years.

/spam filter getting a workout this morning!

74 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:39:35am

re: #66 galloping granny

Wales has a native daffodil? You learn something new every day. How does one get some? Can you buy them in the UK?

No - they are a protected species and you'll get hauled before a court if you pinch the bulbs.
Same as bluebells and snwodrops - protected, and don't even think of digging up some for your garden.

There are loads of beautiful garden species, new ones are coming out every year.

75 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:40:28am

re: #72 goddessoftheclassroom

I went through a "blue" period this past winter where I felt so out of control. One thing I FORCED myself to do was set up breakfast--I do it right after supper. The discipline really helped me get a grip, and now I'm doing so much better.

My new goal is opening and disposing of mail as it arrives instead of letting it create a mountain...

Goals are good.

76 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:41:25am

Humph. And here I am trying to get rid of all my snowdrops.

/I should just ship 'em overseas.

77 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:41:49am

re: #69 yma o hyd

Heh - leeks are smelly, and I prefer to eat them rather than stick them in my lapel!

"Leek? I'm not detecting any leek."
--Geordi LaForge, almost

78 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:42:19am

re: #76 littleoldlady

Humph. And here I am trying to get rid of all my snowdrops.

/I should just ship 'em overseas.

{littleoldlady}! Since I was so late, I was sure I had missed you!

Don't you love the smell of hyacinths?

79 elydo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:42:20am

re: #49 MigueldowninMexico

I'm glad they survived. I can thus laugh at them unkindly and with contempt, with no guilt at all. Darwin Awards are still waiting ladies. Always waiting...

Morning everyone ^^

Hey American Jewess, haven't seen you around recently,. which could well be more down to me. I still owe you thanks from way back when, on the thread about Inherent Rights.

Many thanks [bows]

80 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:43:01am

re: #72 goddessoftheclassroom

I went through a "blue" period this past winter where I felt so out of control. One thing I FORCED myself to do was set up breakfast--I do it right after supper. The discipline really helped me get a grip, and now I'm doing so much better.

My new goal is opening and disposing of mail as it arrives instead of letting it create a mountain...

I'm sorry to hear that you had such a bad time.
Routines are indeed excellent to get through that.

One good advice I was give is, to look at one's face in the mirror and say out loud 'I can, and I will!' , every morning.
Helped me ...

81 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:43:28am

re: #74 yma o hyd

No - they are a protected species and you'll get hauled before a court if you pinch the bulbs.
Same as bluebells and snwodrops - protected, and don't even think of digging up some for your garden.

There are loads of beautiful garden species, new ones are coming out every year.

Ah, I see. We have flowers like that here too. Mostly native orchids. One company here in Vermont is doing tissue culture propagation of all of the American Lady Slippers, wild versions of which have become exceedingly rare. I would dearly love some, but they run $99 or so for just one little bulb.

82 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:45:12am

re: #80 yma o hyd

I'm sorry to hear that you had such a bad time.
Routines are indeed excellent to get through that.

One good advice I was give is, to look at one's face in the mirror and say out loud 'I can, and I will!' , every morning.
Helped me ...

{yma o hyd}

Excellent advice. I kept saying out loud, "I can do this." I am thankful that my faith and friendships are strong enough to keep me going. I keep working on the concept, "Let go and let God," but I'm such a "fixer" that it's very hard for me.

83 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:45:12am

re: #79 elydo

Ah yes the Darwin Awards. The best one I saw was the glorious trifecta. :)

84 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:45:39am

re: #78 goddessoftheclassroom

goddess! :-)

A tad TOO heady-sweet for me, in groups. Not too bad as a single specimen.

I'm a honeysuckle girl, myself. ;-)

85 opnion  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:45:39am

re: #5 redc1c4

i drank'em since they were warm and might be going bad......

why don't you run to the store?


Good Morning toe the Mighty Lizard Nation.
Hey whole your at the store getting beer, pick up some Fritos

86 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:46:20am

re: #72 goddessoftheclassroom

My new goal is opening and disposing of mail as it arrives instead of letting it create a mountain...

But it's so much fun to pile them up, like leaves, and then run and jump into them.

87 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:46:53am

re: #84 littleoldlady

goddess! :-)

A tad TOO heady-sweet for me, in groups. Not too bad as a single specimen.

I'm a honeysuckle girl, myself. ;-)

Oh, I LOVE honeysuckle! Such a summer smell.

Here's (yet another) confession of my weirdness eccentricity: I love the smell of cut grass and gasoline fumes.

88 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:47:56am

re: #86 JamesTKirk

But it's so much fun to pile them up, like leaves, and then run and jump into them.

LOL!

Seriously though, when I get really down, I tend to avoid things I think will upset me, and I hate myself for my cowardice.

89 elydo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:48:04am

re: #83 BlueCanuck

Amusingly enough, one of the ones I most remember is the one directly above the trifecta in the list:

I don't want to ruin the surprise...

90 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:48:11am

re: #81 galloping granny

Sounds fabulous!

There's nothing I love more than native wild flowers! it is wonderful to see them come up every year, and even better to go to the places where they are and check if they've come up yet.
We've found a whole handful of different species of Veronica (thats speedwell) just in the parks within walking distance.

91 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:48:17am

re: #79 elydo

I'm glad they survived. I can thus laugh at them unkindly and with contempt, with no guilt at all. Darwin Awards are still waiting ladies. Always waiting...


Hahahaha good comment! lol

92 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:48:19am

Oh dear. I am apparently in a sad way today. I just read this headline
Secret Service Catch Mexican Official Nabbing White House BlackBerries and mentally commented that I did not know they grew blackberries at the White House. . . . . . . . . .

93 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:48:32am

re: #83 BlueCanuck

Ah yes the Darwin Awards. The best one I saw was the glorious trifecta. :)

That one ended with a bang.

94 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:48:53am

I have to pick up mowers from the shop..32 miles round trip...I have to do it twice...what a day.

95 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:49:48am

re: #92 galloping granny

Oh dear. I am apparently in a sad way today. I just read this headline
Secret Service Catch Mexican Official Nabbing White House BlackBerries and mentally commented that I did not know they grew blackberries at the White House. . . . . . . . . .

That's exactly what I thought from your post! Even sadder!

96 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:49:48am

re: #87 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, I LOVE honeysuckle! Such a summer smell.

Here's (yet another) confession of my weirdness eccentricity: I love the smell of cut grass and gasoline fumes.

And how is that weird?

97 opnion  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:50:08am

re: #29 MigueldowninMexico

Well, a Nazi fan was banned today.

Another borderline Nazi -and furibund atheist- was around that same thread, but he avoided the stick.
That was quite a thread.

About that (R): Poor guy didn't know that the Pope is Cath...
I mean, poor guy didn't know Hitler was a Nazi. :(

/he was taken for a ride, you see?

Hey the Obama people say that "Guilt through Association" is unfair.
Just shows you how insipid their argument is.

98 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:50:16am

re: #89 elydo

Amusingly enough, one of the ones I most remember is the one directly above the trifecta in the list:

I don't want to ruin the surprise...

"Apparently the alcohol absorbs more quickly through the capillary beds of the rectum, a fact exploited by many party animals."

Good thing I've never been to any of those parties.

99 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:50:46am

re: #86 JamesTKirk

Yeah, but watch out for the paper cuts. :p

100 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:50:57am

Gotta go, Lizards - lunch beckons, and after that the afternoon dog walk!

BBL

101 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:51:15am

re: #97 opnion

Hey the Obama people say that "Guilt through Association" is unfair.
Just shows you how insipid their argument is.

What they mean is that "it's unfair when it's applied to us."

102 elydo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:51:23am

re: #88 goddessoftheclassroom

That's not cowardice, that's sensible self-preservation. There is a significant difference between the two. I'd class the opposite course of action as illogical, irrational and stupid. Illogical/irrational being a rather serious criticism from me.

Pride for pride's sake is sheer self-indulgence, and a form of weakness.

103 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:52:03am
104 opnion  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:52:22am

re: #101 JamesTKirk

What they mean is that "it's unfair when it's applied to us."

Yeah, they are rather selective.

105 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:52:52am

re: #55 storagemanager

I need a coffee pot that can feed itself.

i need a scotch bottl that refills itself.....

/what time is it?

106 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:53:14am

The U.S. military on Wednesday denied reports it is holding Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri, the number two under Saddam Hussein. "We are aware of media reports that Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri has been captured," the military told AFP in an email. "At this point, we can say that he is not in coalition custody

[Link: www.alarabiya.net...]

107 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:53:20am

re: #97 opnion

Hey the Obama people say that "Guilt through Association" is unfair.
Just shows you how insipid their argument is.

In this case it was sooooo obvious.
Speak to a group that has a big picture of Hitler, with the 3rd Reich flag hanging from the wall, and all these nice men with swastikas armbands.
I mean guilt by association is almost guilt by partnership in this case-

108 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:53:44am

re: #89 elydo

Yeah, I read that one awhile ago. *eeewwwww*

109 opnion  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:54:10am

re: #105 redc1c4

i need a scotch bottl that refills itself.....

/what time is it?

And 72 virgins. Oh wait, that's a whole other thing.

110 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:54:16am

re: #59 galloping granny

I always wanted one that came with an IV drip.

they make caffeine IV's.....

/specialty parenterals are a specialty

111 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:54:22am

re: #83 BlueCanuck

Ah yes the Darwin Awards. The best one I saw was the glorious trifecta. :)

I love Darwin lol
She has a very weird sense of humor.
/Would you believe that?

112 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:55:22am

re: #102 elydo

That's not cowardice, that's sensible self-preservation. There is a significant difference between the two. I'd class the opposite course of action as illogical, irrational and stupid. Illogical/irrational being a rather serious criticism from me.

Pride for pride's sake is sheer self-indulgence, and a form of weakness.

{elydo}

Goodness, I love this place!

Part of my personality is that I want to be liked. When someone is "mean" to me, I think it's my fault, and I want to "fix" the problem. My inlaws hurt me terribly by their treatment after their son's betrayal of me and our kids, and funny enough, I was more upset by their attitude than I was by my EH's.

I have finally accepted that THEY have the problem, and that since the clearly don't care about having me in their life, I can do without them in mine. The kids can see them whenever they want to, but they haven't wanted to--and the inlaws will not lower themselves to call me to ask me to see them.

113 opnion  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:56:29am

re: #107 MigueldowninMexico

In this case it was sooooo obvious.
Speak to a group that has a big picture of Hitler, with the 3rd Reich flag hanging from the wall, and all these nice men with swastikas armbands.
I mean guilt by association is almost guilt by partnership in this case-

True, the guy sounded like an idiot, especially when you see the picture that you are referring to.
All that I am saying is that it is fair game to whack Barry for attending that racist church for 20 years.

114 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:57:06am

re: #107 MigueldowninMexico

In this case it was sooooo obvious.
Speak to a group that has a big picture of Hitler, with the 3rd Reich flag hanging from the wall, and all these nice men with swastikas armbands.
I mean guilt by association is almost guilt by partnership in this case-

But big pictures of Che are just fine 'n dandy.

115 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:57:42am

re: #113 opnion

True, the guy sounded like an idiot, especially when you see the picture that you are referring to.
All that I am saying is that it is fair game to whack Barry for attending that racist church for 20 years.

Saying he didn't know they were nazis.
Pure taquiyya, my friend. Pure taquiyya.

116 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:57:50am

re: #112 goddessoftheclassroom
Sometimes it is best to just walk away...I learned that last year.

117 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:58:14am

re: #113 opnion

Yeah, we're equal opportunity whackers in this place.

/wait that don't sound right for some reason?

118 opnion  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:58:20am

Lizards, gotta go.Five hour drive ahead of me. I will do anything to avoid the airport.
Remember, "No fun ,of any kind", (Dean Wormer)

119 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:58:27am

re: #115 MigueldowninMexico

Oh yes, of course Obama is guilty!
Not by association, by enabling, covering, abiding, and so on.

120 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:58:54am

re: #117 BlueCanuck

Yeah, we're equal opportunity whackers in this place.

/wait that don't sound right for some reason?

Oh no, not another penis thread...

121 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:59:03am

re: #118 opnion

Lizards, gotta go.Five hour drive ahead of me. I will do anything to avoid the airport.
Remember, "No fun ,of any kind", (Dean Wormer)

{opnion}

I've got to go, too. Take care, y'all!

122 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:59:15am

re: #114 JamesTKirk

But big pictures of Che are just fine 'n dandy.

Remember: a false messiah can get away with murder ;)

123 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 3:59:28am

re: #114 JamesTKirk

But big pictures of Che are just fine 'n dandy.

Remember Fawlty Towers?

124 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:00:32am

re: #122 MigueldowninMexico

Remember: a false messiah can get away with murder ;)

125 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:01:58am

A nice spot to attack Israel from..thank you!..

Syrian President Bashar al Assad on Thursday confirmed for the first time reports in the Arab media claiming that Israel had agreed to implement full withdrawal from the occupied Golan Heights in exchange for peace with Syria. In an interview with the Qatari daily Al Watan the Syrian president conveyed that the Turkish prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, had informed him that Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert had agreed to cede the Golan for peace

[Link: www.albawaba.com...]

126 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:02:04am

re: #120 JamesTKirk

Almost had one on the dead thread ←. But we nipped it real quick.

/I can't stop myself.

127 elydo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:02:37am

re: #112 goddessoftheclassroom

[nods] A healthier attitude. It's a shame that being able to say "Fuck it" and place yourself first, in any number of situations, is such a hard thing to do for the people who need to do it the most. It's doubly unfair that such people are usually stereotyped as pushovers, so when they start making an effort to stand up for themselves the 'abnormal' behaviour makes people react more strongly to their saying "No" than someone with a reputation for being unhelpful in the first place.

I don't really get a lot of aspects of human nature or society on an instinctive level, but observation and experience can occasionally make up the lack, and often provides me with a unique view. It doesn't, however, typically give me more respect for many of those aspects.

/Aspie

128 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:02:53am

re: #112 goddessoftheclassroom

{elydo}

Goodness, I love this place!

Part of my personality is that I want to be liked. When someone is "mean" to me, I think it's my fault, and I want to "fix" the problem. My inlaws hurt me terribly by their treatment after their son's betrayal of me and our kids, and funny enough, I was more upset by their attitude than I was by my EH's.

I have finally accepted that THEY have the problem, and that since the clearly don't care about having me in their life, I can do without them in mine. The kids can see them whenever they want to, but they haven't wanted to--and the inlaws will not lower themselves to call me to ask me to see them.

That is so sad Goddess. Heartbreaking for your kids, if not now then down the road a piece.

129 elydo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:03:13am

re: #127 elydo

Annnnnd she's gone...

/Must type faster

130 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:03:47am

re: #112 goddessoftheclassroom

{elydo}

Goodness, I love this place!

Part of my personality is that I want to be liked. When someone is "mean" to me, I think it's my fault, and I want to "fix" the problem. My inlaws hurt me terribly by their treatment after their son's betrayal of me and our kids, and funny enough, I was more upset by their attitude than I was by my EH's.

I have finally accepted that THEY have the problem, and that since the clearly don't care about having me in their life, I can do without them in mine. The kids can see them whenever they want to, but they haven't wanted to--and the inlaws will not lower themselves to call me to ask me to see them.

and so you're ahead on points.... now all you have to do is decide to be happy and let them suck eggs.

joke'em if they can't take a ....

/JMHO, of course

131 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:04:38am
132 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:04:57am

re: #125 storagemanager

A nice spot to attack Israel from..thank you!..

[Link: www.albawaba.com...]

Dear G_d! You have GOT to be kidding me! Olmert is absolutely insane!

133 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:05:10am

re: #118 opnion

Lizards, gotta go.Five hour drive ahead of me. I will do anything to avoid the airport.
Remember, "No fun ,of any kind", (Dean Wormer)

"Bite me."

/the rules lost. %-)

134 christheprofessor  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:05:22am

Good morning, all...

This is kinda cool -- "said to be the earliest photographic portrait of a person" (from 1939).

135 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:05:48am
Democrats in Turkey favor Obama over Clinton
With presidential hopefuls Senator Hillary Clinton and Senator Barack Obama still fighting for the Democratic nomination»»

[Link: www.todayszaman.com...]

136 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:05:59am

re: #120 JamesTKirk

Oh no, not another penis thread...

yer just dickin us around, right?

137 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:06:45am

re: #134 christheprofessor

Good morning, all...

This is kinda cool -- "said to be the earliest photographic portrait of a person" (from 1939).

Chris, join me in another cup of coffee. The picture was taken in 1839.

138 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:06:51am

re: #132 galloping granny

Dear G_d! You have GOT to be kidding me! Olmert is absolutely insane!

Can they declare him unfit for office due to mental incompetency?

139 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:07:34am

re: #138 JamesTKirk

It would set a precedent, and soon we would be out of presidents.

140 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:07:52am

re: #124 JamesTKirk

[Link: youtube.com...]

Thanks! Great song!
I could easily fall in love with Renee, she's beautiful ;)

141 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:08:06am

re: #135 storagemanager

[Link: www.todayszaman.com...]

Why do we give a rat's behind what "democrats" anywhere except those registered to vote in the United States of America think about the potential nominee?

142 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:09:11am

re: #138 JamesTKirk

Can they declare him unfit for office due to mental incompetency?

I am dumbfounded that they have done nothing to get rid of him as yet.

143 christheprofessor  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:09:23am

re: #134 christheprofessor

doh! that should read "from 1839"...

144 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:09:42am

think i oughta go to bed before HRH's alarm goes off.....

L8r, y'all.

/CHANGE!

/drink!

145 christheprofessor  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:10:22am

re: #137 galloping granny

Heh. Just caught that myself (hell, I've seen photo portraits of Zirkle's favorite leader from before 1939)....

146 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:11:46am

re: #144 redc1c4

See you next time red. Stay sober safe.

147 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:12:40am

Ok I have to go now.
Good bye and God bless all :)

148 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:12:52am
24/04/2008: "Girls’ schools have also become a target. At least six schools were attacked in the Darra Adam Khel area, about 35km south of Peshawar, in 2008, badly affecting girls’ education, with parents terrified to send their daughters to school." (IRIN Asia)

Driving across Pakistan’s North West Frontier Province (NWFP), which lies along the country’s western border with Afghanistan, more and more often, in the bazaars of small towns such as Kohat, Bannu or Tank, ruined buildings stand desolately, resembling a scene of war.

Now such scenes are also becoming more commonplace in Peshawar, NWFP’s provincial capital and a city of over two million people: Most of the affected buildings are shops that once sold music CDs, video or DVD films, or housed tailoring businesses.
All have been targeted by militants who hold “Western entertainment”, or the stitching of women’s clothes by male tailors, a violation of religious principles.

Earlier this month, for example, militants targeted three shops selling CDs on the busy Kohat Road in Peshawar, using homemade explosives to damage them and force their closure. “Fortunately no one was injured this time, but who knows what militants can do next,” Firdaus Ahmed, a nearby shopkeeper, said.

Girls’ schools have also become a target. At least six schools were attacked in the Darra Adam Khel area, about 35km south of Peshawar, in 2008, badly affecting girls’ education, with parents terrified to send their daughters to school

[Link: www.wluml.org...]

149 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:13:10am

Have a good one Miguel.

150 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:15:04am

re: #148 storagemanager

That culture is starting to remind me of the Kzinti from Nivens Known Space stories. Where they bred all intelligence out of their females. Wonder it this is what they are trying to attempt.

151 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:16:38am

re: #148 storagemanager

They need assistance from the Japanese. From what I've seen in their TV shows, it's not safe to mess with Japanese schoolgirls.

152 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:19:05am

re: #145 christheprofessor

Heh. Just caught that myself (hell, I've seen photo portraits of Zirkle's favorite leader from before 1939)....

Ever spent any time wandering through the collection of old portraits and photos owned by the Library of Congress? Bunches of them are online. Wonderful teaching tool if you happen to teach US history - or photography/technology.

153 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:20:35am

re: #70 rightside

Morning Jim, I am in Va too!


I wandered off to shower and get the klds up. Where in VA?

154 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:21:47am

re: #134 christheprofessor

Good morning, all...

This is kinda cool -- "said to be the earliest photographic portrait of a person" (from 1939).

Loved that comment:

Little does he know that the funny box he is staring into is connected to the Inter-Net!

Reminds me of the quote that Peter Jackson used to exhort his cast with during the years-long ordeal of making the Lord Of The Rings trilogy: "Pain is temporary. Film is forever."

155 4wheel  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:22:22am

"Duty is the sublimest word in our language. Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more; you should never wish to do less."

-Robert E. Lee

156 Widow'smight  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:22:48am

re: #141 galloping granny

I've heard some places consider Rat's butts an aphrodesiac (sp?), almost as special as Rhino horns.

I read it in that Ali Babwa paper.

Another Glorius Day on tap here in Pa Dutch land.

157 christheprofessor  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:22:49am

re: #152 galloping granny

Ever spent any time wandering through the collection of old portraits and photos owned by the Library of Congress? Bunches of them are online. Wonderful teaching tool if you happen to teach US history - or photography/technology.

No, but that's a thought. I think that's where the folks who run Shorpy get a lot of theirs...

158 christheprofessor  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:24:52am

re: #154 Dar ul Harb

Yes, I thought that was funny, as well. I've always wondered what it would be like for, say, George Washington or other folks of that era to come back today and see what the country is like (from a technological, not a political, standpoint).

159 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:26:07am

re: #155 4wheel

"Duty is the sublimest word in our language. Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more; you should never wish to do less."

-Robert E. Lee

owning a human being and dehumanizing them was his duty.

160 eaglewingz08  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:26:59am

Olmert is seeking a prize that even Djimmah Carter cannot aspire to, the total destruction of Israel by a self loathing Jew. I cannot believe the Israeli Parliament would ever ratify such a treaty. I cannot believe that once this news breaks that Shas, the Religious Party would continue as a partner in Olmerde's government. We all see what happened when Israel gave up the significant Sinai peninsula thanks to Djimmah Carter. But Israel could live without Sinai, but the Golan, with Iranian overlorded Syria in control with Iranian missiles there, and with just a piece of paper proclaiming peace in our time, is insane.
Why Syria did not immediately agree to call Olmerde's bluff is beyond me.
BTW on another topic, did you hear on IMUS, today that Obamanation is saying 'If you are tough you don't have to talk tough', like Hillary, that People will know you are tough without you having to talk tough.


Except for the fact Barack, that since you are perceived to be weaker than a pansy (flower not any gay reference) any tough talk from you would be welcome. Indeed, even IMUS said PLLLLEEEEEASE OBAMA say something TOUGH.
All to no avail.

161 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:29:03am

re: #120 JamesTKirk

Oh no, not another penis thread...

Dating rituals have changed since my youth.
Drunk midshipman accused of sex assault

A week before the incident, Calvanico sent the woman a digital photograph of his penis via his cellphone. The Navy charges that the act constituted "conduct unbecoming an officer and gentleman."

The woman did not deny that she requested the photograph. "I knew what I was getting," she said.


I used to send chocolate and flowers.

162 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:31:13am

re: #161 Jim in Virginia

I used to send chocolate and flowers.

How do you send that via cell phone?

163 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:31:32am

re: #161 Jim in Virginia

Ugh, kids these days.

164 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:32:03am

re: #162 JamesTKirk

You should know, just properly adjust the transtator.

/yes I am a geek.

165 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:35:46am

O.K...How long before the world will see?..........

Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, will visit Pakistan for a few hours next week, the Pakistani Foreign Ministry reported.

According to the report, Ahmadinejad will meet state leaders to discuss political and financial relations between the two countries. (AFP)

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

166 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:37:08am
Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, called his fellow countries in the region to “increase awareness of enemies scheming to eradicate them.”

Ahmadinejad said in a meeting held with Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Moallem that : “Americans as well as their allies are facing doom.” The Syrian Foreign Minister praised the Palestinian’s resistance to the Israeli siege over Gaza. (Dudi Cohen


[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

167 Widow'smight  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:37:49am

re: #164 BlueCanuck

Is that how they got their spuds to those colonies on different planets?

168 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:39:13am

re: #167 Widow'smight

Is that how they got their spuds to those colonies on different planets?

A "trans-tater" is Mr. Potato Head in drag...

169 elydo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:39:50am

re: #162 JamesTKirk

Or use your phone to call a delivery company. Technically it could still be considered 'using' your phone to send them.

170 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:40:01am

re: #167 Widow'smight

shhh, it's a Starfleet secret

171 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:40:05am

re: #163 BlueCanuck

Ugh, kids these days.


We've become geezers.

172 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:41:35am

re: #171 Jim in Virginia

As my younger friends say "That's because you're OLD".

/need to beat them some more with my cane

173 Widow'smight  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:41:50am

re: #168 JamesTKirk

Maybe they got changed when their particles were flying around, or maybe they mixed with the Tribbles.

174 phil flavin  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:42:27am

re: #171 Jim in Virginia

We've become geezers.

I am a bit younger, so I used to send chocolate penises.

175 Crux Australis  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:44:36am

long time lurker here, has spring arrived in the US yet?

...writing from Sydney, Australia.

All the autumn leaves are starting to change here now.

176 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:45:29am

re: #175 Crux Australis

Spring in some parts, winter in others still. Your location will vary.

177 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:46:15am

re: #170 BlueCanuck

shhh, it's a Starfleet secret

Except for those Iotians. McCoy left his communicator with them, and soon they'll be coming to get a piece of our action.

178 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:47:24am

re: #177 JamesTKirk

Well he always proclaimed he was just a country doctor. . . . .

179 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:47:57am

re: #178 BlueCanuck

Well he always proclaimed he was just a country doctor. . . . .

And not an engineer, or a bricklayer, or ...

180 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:47:59am

Off to work. Play safe. Don't take any wooden nickels or chocolate penises.

181 Crux Australis  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:48:52am

I always have to keep in mind when listening to an American broadcast to change the seasons around.

Summer=Winter
Autumn=Spring

182 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:49:13am

re: #179 JamesTKirk

And not an engineer, or a bricklayer, or ...


or a miracle worker.
That's where Obama was needed.

183 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:49:53am

re: #180 Jim in Virginia

Off to work. Play safe. Don't take any wooden nickels or chocolate penises.

Off to work? I've been here almost two hours already!

(Not that I'm doing a whole lot of actual work at the moment, mind you...)

184 Widow'smight  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:50:01am

re: #171 Jim in Virginia

As they'd say around here,

Zees kits nadaze Zink Zey no evryzink but zey no Nutzink.

A Pa Dutch farmer and a Texas rancher were talking about their properties one day. Texas Rancher says "Yep I can hop in my pickup truck and drive all day and never reach the other end of my land." Dutchie farmer says, "Zats funny, I vuns hat a truck like zat too".

185 sparrowlake  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:50:29am

re: #161 Jim in Virginia

I used to send chocolate and flowers.

She may have asked him to send her a picture of his penis, but where did he get off thinking that meant that she wanted to have sex?
(?)

186 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:53:09am

Babbazee can't get in... Who locked the LGF door?

187 Crux Australis  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:54:00am

How do Americans handle the long electoral process?

In Australia the Prime Minister calls the election (after a certain length of time has elapsed) and it is all over in six weeks. Some states have fixed 4 year terms though.

It would drive me crazy to sit through 15 months? of campaigning in Australia.

188 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:54:30am

re: #186 JamesTKirk

Babbazee can't get in... Who locked the LGF door?

Probably red on his way out. You know him and his mischef.

189 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:54:42am

re: #186 JamesTKirk

Babbazee can't get in... Who locked the LGF door?

She forgot the Zionist password?

190 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:55:27am

re: #187 Crux Australis

How do Americans handle the long electoral process?

Alcohol and lots of it. And no matter who wins, that's also the recipe for the next four years.

191 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:56:26am

re: #189 storagemanager

She forgot the Zionist password?

I wonder if she's the only one having trouble getting in? Posting seems slow this morning... I'm having no trouble keeping up with LGF and my email and a few other sites simultaneously.

192 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:57:08am

re: #190 JamesTKirk

Alcohol and lots of it. And no matter who wins, that's also the recipe for the next four years.


I watch old shows like the Rifleman

193 anubis_soundwave  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:57:33am

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

General Petraeus piece from the AP.

Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) is being a dork as usual.... :b

= = =

As this is the open thread, I thought this would be a good news item to post. I've already emailed the link to the site, but I thought it'd be good for us to discuss.

CENTCOM. I think it's cool. :) One of Bush's better choices.

194 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 4:59:39am

It's not just her -- it took the page three times and 2 reloads to load for me. Last night I couldn't get it to load at all for some reason.

(crosses fingers and presses "post")

195 Widow'smight  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:00:43am

re: #187 Crux Australis

In Australia the Prime Minister calls the erection


Geez, I hope our president doesn't have to get involved in such trivial things, and can concentrate on stopping Iran and saving Polar Bears. But then again, maybe that's why Billy bob Clinton needed Monica to help him.

196 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:00:47am

re: #194 Lucius Septimius

Realwest had problems last night as well. Me thinks it may be a localized condition, or problems with ISP's.

197 Crux Australis  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:02:03am

In Australia things are looking grim.

Labor (think Democrats) are in control of every state legislature and the House of Representatives in the Federal parliament and come July the Senate.

Not happy!

198 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:02:26am

re: #195 Widow'smight

STOP IT, STOP IT! Must we have another penis thread so soon.

/I know it's too late.

199 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:02:41am

re: #187 Crux Australis

How do Americans handle the long electoral process?

In Australia the Prime Minister calls the election (after a certain length of time has elapsed) and it is all over in six weeks. Some states have fixed 4 year terms though.

It would drive me crazy to sit through 15 months? of campaigning in Australia.

It wasn't always this way.

200 doriangrey  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:02:50am

re: #159 storagemanager

owning a human being and dehumanizing them was his duty.

For a person who quotes the bible so often I find this a very odd statement.

201 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:04:03am

re: #196 BlueCanuck

Now it seems to be working better ... hmmm.

202 doriangrey  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:04:05am

Good morning Lizards............

203 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:05:13am

re: #200 doriangrey

For a person who quotes the bible so often I find this a very odd statement.

Why...because I am not a fan of Robert E. Lee or the slave owning South?

204 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:05:29am

Time to jet, see you all next week.

/poof

205 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:05:35am

re: #198 BlueCanuck

STOP IT, STOP IT! Must we have another penis thread so soon.

/I know it's too late.

Shouldn't we have a boob thread, just to be fair and alternate?

206 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:05:40am

IAEA Says Iran Agrees to Clarify Nuclear Activity in May just like Iran said they would clear up nuclear issues with IAEA by late February and before that it was November...and before that...

Mornin folks...are we havin fun yet? The Mullah's are.

207 Macker  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:05:47am

re: #92 galloping granny

Oh dear. I am apparently in a sad way today. I just read this headline
Secret Service Catch Mexican Official Nabbing White House BlackBerries and mentally commented that I did not know they grew blackberries at the White House. . . . . . . . . .

Well, he can always come back to the United States as an Illegal (ugh)...That said, I'm glad they caught the son of a bitch.
Oh, and GOOD MORNING LIZARDS!

208 doriangrey  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:05:52am

re: #201 Lucius Septimius

Now it seems to be working better ... hmmm.

Well there goes your liberal academia street cred... What liberal ever pointed to something working better.... Anything working better?

209 Widow'smight  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:07:09am

re: #198 BlueCanuck

We should play some music to change the course. How bout some Aerosmith "10 inch" or sumpin.

OOps, the ladies have arrived, we'll return to our regularly scheduled program. See any Bees loaded up with Pollen?

210 3 wood  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:07:17am

Good Morning Lizards.

Well, somebody reminded the Chicago White Sox that they are the Chicago White Sox and not the 1927 Yankees. Last night they made an over-the-hill, rag armed, junk throwing Mike Mussina look like Tom Seaver in his prime.

Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

By the way folks, please find a few minutes today to send up some prayers/good thoughts for real west. Our friend/LGF contributor has an important meeting with the doctors today.

Thinking of you, real...

211 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:09:30am

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212 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:10:25am

Now, will someone with incredible idiocy in the brain tell me to SHUT THE FUCK UP? It's not always about YOU.

213 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:10:49am

*minor rant over*

214 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:10:49am

SHUT THE FUCK UP! It's not always about YOU.

215 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:11:07am

I really liked the Rove article that was on WSJ this morning (I see Jim posted it above). I particularly liked this quote:

And what of the reborn Adlai Stevenson? Mr. Obama is befuddled and angry about the national reaction to what are clearly accepted, even commonplace truths in San Francisco and Hyde Park. How could anyone take offense at the observation that people in small-town and rural American are "bitter" and therefore "cling" to their guns and their faith, as well as their xenophobia? Why would anyone raise questions about a public figure who, for only 20 years, attended a church and developed a close personal relationship with its preacher who says AIDS was created by our government as a genocidal tool to be used against people of color, who declared America's chickens came home to roost on 9/11, and wants God to damn America? Mr. Obama has a weakness among blue-collar working class voters for a reason.

Of course he and his handlers have completely convinced themselves that any opposition to him must be racial. Taranto did a pretty thorough debunking of that based on the numbers from PA on BotW yesterday. Still, they will always have race as an excuse. Pathetic, or at least it would be if it were not such a potent tool for stirring up hatred and resentment among the hoi polloi.

Barry can talk about "bitterness" since he is such a master at creating it.

216 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:11:51am

Who's on first?

217 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:12:19am

re: #214 JamesTKirk

LOL!

218 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:12:25am

re: #62 goddessoftheclassroom

Can you set yours up the night before? I do that that I just have to press the buttons in the morning.

goddess-

Set up everything EXCEPT the coffee. Scoop it in when ready. More/better taste that way.

-S-

219 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:13:15am

re: #203 storagemanager

Why...because I am not a fan of Robert E. Lee or the slave owning South?

Would you discard everything done or said or written by Thomas Jefferson because he also lived in Virginia and owned slaves?

If so, your attitude is the same preached by that hate-filled "reverend" Wright so beloved by Obama: nothing good could ever possibly have come from slave owners who once lived in the United States of KKKA so throw it all out! Discard the Declaration of Independence because the man who wrote it owned slaves.

The NORTH was not too far removed from slavery itself, tolerated and even encouraged a factory system that was little different than outright slavery - one that "employed" 3 year olds to repair broken threads inside the huge looms - and profited mightily off the labors of those in the South. There are NO clean hands.

220 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:13:17am

re: #217 MandyManners

LOL!

I aim to please.

221 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:13:47am

re: #220 JamesTKirk

I aim to please.

You succeed.

222 doriangrey  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:13:48am

re: #203 storagemanager

Why...because I am not a fan of Robert E. Lee or the slave owning South?

Has nothing to do with Robert E. Lee, and everything to do with the biblical stance on slavery. Personally I like throwing stones at Thomas Jefferson for both owning slaves and siring them, the man kept his own children as slaves...

The point though is that Robert E. Lee and Thomas Jefferson both acted well within the moral standards outlined in the bible. The simple truth is that slavery was not considered to be a morally evil practice by those mentioned in or those who wrote the bible. Condemning those in the past for acting according to the moral standards of their day is, well its an act of moral relativism.

223 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:13:56am
Man Steals Wallet of ROTC Student Having Seizure Outside Bus Station

HUMAN SCUM......

KDFW: Surveillance video shows a man approaching the student, who was wearing desert fatigues and flailing on the sidewalk. The man then pulls a wallet from the the student's back pocket.

[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

224 ec marm  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:15:14am

re: #213 MandyManners

*minor rant over*


Somebody needs a stiff one, but it's not five o'clock yet? I got the answer here. Zoom in on the picture, I think it's cute.

225 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:16:03am

re: #219 galloping granny

Thomas Jefferson Did not join a group that broke away from the union and caused more American deaths then any war in history.

226 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:16:17am

re: #224 ec marm

Somebody needs a stiff one, but it's not five o'clock yet? I got the answer here. Zoom in on the picture, I think it's cute.

It *is* cute! Very cute.

227 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:16:41am

re: #224 ec marm

Somebody needs a stiff one

Look, we really are trying to keep this from becoming a penis thread, but you're not helping.

228 The Albatross  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:16:50am

Good morning Lizards.... been working crazy hours and having some med side effects. Found out my last day of employment is the 9th of May.... but go in this morning to observe a class of developmentally disabled (cognitive age 4-5 years old). I am being considered for a life trainer/teaching position! Pay is crap but so is the Y's... since when does that stop me?

Cross your fingers for me this morning!

229 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:16:54am

Gotta' go slop the hogs and feed the chickens.

Later, Lizards.

230 4wheel  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:17:01am

re: #159 storagemanager


You should really brush up on your history. Another name for the "Civil War" is "The war of Northern Aggression". There's a reason for that. Slavery was and is wrong, but it has little, if anything, to do with why Robert E. Lee was a general in the confederate army. Maybe he did own slaves. Maybe he didn't. The quote is still true.

231 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:17:13am

re: #225 storagemanager

Thomas Jefferson Did not join a group that broke away from the union and caused more American deaths then any war in history.

He did join a group that broke away from the Union Jack.

232 doriangrey  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:17:37am

re: #225 storagemanager

Thomas Jefferson Did not join a group that broke away from the union and caused more American deaths then any war in history.

No, he just kept his OWN CHILDREN IN CHAINS....

233 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:18:32am

re: #230 4wheel

You should really brush up on your history. Another name for the "Civil War" is "The war of Northern Aggression". There's a reason for that. Slavery was and is wrong, but it has little, if anything, to do with why Robert E. Lee was a general in the confederate army. Maybe he did own slaves. Maybe he didn't. The quote is still true.


It was called the rebel army for a reason.

234 Macker  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:18:48am

re: #211 MandyManners

Wait a minute, are you ill? You're supposed to be rinsing & repeating "RUDY!"

235 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:19:09am

re: #231 JamesTKirk

He did join a group that broke away from the Union Jack.


Not an army killed Americamn troops...Jack

236 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:20:00am

re: #232 doriangrey

No, he just kept his OWN CHILDREN IN CHAINS....

That has never been proven. Somebody in the Jefferson family had sex with slaves, as shown by the DNA link between the Jeffersons and Hemings descendents today, but there's know way of knowing which Jefferson it was.

237 doriangrey  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:20:19am

re: #233 storagemanager

It was called the rebel army for a reason.

History is always written by the victor. George Washington likewise lead a rebel army.

238 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:20:49am

The south was wrong then...and the Democracks are wrong now...same spirit behind both.

239 Macker  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:21:52am

re: #224 ec marm

Somebody needs a stiff one, but it's not five o'clock yet? I got the answer here. Zoom in on the picture, I think it's cute.

Always a Five O'Clock World!

240 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:22:23am

re: #237 doriangrey

History is always written by the victor. George Washington likewise lead a rebel army.


If you can not see the deferents..we have nothing in common.

241 rightside  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:22:37am

Good Morning again Lizards,

I am at work and youtubeless!

JamesTKirk, I got the thrust of your posts!

242 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:23:14am

U.N. Slams Hizbullah as a Continuing Challenge to Lebanon

Hizbullah Slams U.S., U.N.

Situation normal on the Lebanese front, they're definitely moving right along.

243 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:23:29am

re: #225 storagemanager

Thomas Jefferson Did not join a group that broke away from the union and caused more American deaths then any war in history.

Didn't he? Just exactly what do you think the Revolution was? There were an awful lot of Americans born and bred here that died in the Revolution who were not on the side of the Founding Fathers. And a whole bunch more whose left for England or Canada. Many of the English folks in Nova Scotia have roots in what is now the US.

The War between the States, as the Civil War is also known, was not ever primarily about slavery. It was about state's rights, about whether state law or federal was/should be paramount, whether joining the union (as states were still doing then) also gave the implicit right to withdraw from the Union. Those questions STILL are not solved. Witness the actions of Berkeley or states like Vermont directly contravening US drug laws to purchase pharmaceuticals in Canada for use by Vermont residents.

Robert E. Lee was the descendent of Lighthorse Harry, a true hero of the Revolution. Every single US soldier from any war who is buried at Arlington is buried at Robert E. Lee's home. His wife was the stepdaughter of George Washington. Lee was one of the finest generals this nation has ever produced - as well as one of the most respected by soldiers on both sides and one of the most beloved. Universally, not just below the Mason-Dixon.

Who the HELL are YOU to disparage him or all the rest of the "slaveowners" who fought and died for YOU and YOUR fucking rights?!

244 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:23:38am

Fighting a war to be free of bondage...and fighting a war to keep your slaves...there is a clear line.

245 ec marm  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:24:43am

re: #239 Macker

Always a Five O'Clock World


I always enjoyed Drew Carey but the time was always bad for me to watch.

246 3 wood  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:24:51am

re: #228 The Albatross

Cross your fingers for me this morning!

You got it.

247 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:25:26am

Maybe because I see our country so divided today...is the reason I am bitter...

248 paxnhymn  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:26:44am

re: #240 storagemanager

If you can not see the deferents..we have nothing in common.


ok..this I gotta read. Storage, ya know i love ya, but you're not gonna try and say it was the slavery thing, are you? The issue that started the Civil War was cessession(sp?), not slavery.....

249 christheprofessor  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:26:45am

re: #224 ec marm

Somebody needs a stiff one, but it's not five o'clock yet? I got the answer here. Zoom in on the picture, I think it's cute.

Damn, not another penis thread...

250 4wheel  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:27:02am

re: #233 storagemanager

Yes it was. Because they rebelled against the Northern aggression. Did you have a point?

251 ModerateWolverine  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:27:51am

Anyone watching fox and friends right now?

Some radio host Mike Papantanio said something along the lines of, "well a lot of people think President Bush has a learning disability."

I'm proud of the fox and friends crew for shaming him right away...saying "you should be ashamed of yourself...that's not right...this isn't your radio show, etc."

What a putz.

252 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:28:35am

If it was not about slavery...then why Jim Crow?

253 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:31:18am

re: #252 storagemanager

If it was not about slavery...then why Jim Crow?

Most of what are termed the Jim Crow laws were a direct reaction by the Southern states to Reconstruction. And BTW, most blacks who were denied the right to vote in the South were not denied because they were black, they were denied because they were illiterate. Illiterates were denied the right to vote in Northern states too. They just happened to mostly be poor whites.

254 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:31:43am

If it was not about slavery...why the KKK?

255 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:33:32am

Why did it not end until the 1960's?...and the democracks are still using a form of slavery.

256 sparrowlake  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:33:59am

re: #160 eaglewingz08

Olmert is seeking a prize that even Djimmah Carter cannot aspire to, the total destruction of Israel by a self loathing Jew. I cannot believe the Israeli Parliament would ever ratify such a treaty. I cannot believe that once this news breaks that Shas, the Religious Party would continue as a partner in Olmerde's government. We all see what happened when Israel gave up the significant Sinai peninsula thanks to Djimmah Carter. But Israel could live without Sinai, but the Golan, with Iranian overlorded Syria in control with Iranian missiles there, and with just a piece of paper proclaiming peace in our time, is insane.
Why Syria did not immediately agree to call Olmerde's bluff is beyond me.


Israel and Egypt have not fought since, and many thousands of Israelis travel to Egypt regularly for those cheap and risky Sinai holiday specials. It is peace, though not fully normalized relations by any means.
Yes the Golan Heights is a different kettle of fish due to the strategic considerations. However, I would hope that if Syria were to bite at this offer then Israeli withdrawal from the Golan would be contingent on a substantial ongoing Israeli or American military/security presence on the Heights.
BTW, IMO for you to call Olmert a self-loathing Jew who desires the total destruction of Israel makes you, not him, sound like a self-loathing Jew. I have seen this type of hyperbole here before and it makes me sick to see the spewing of such garbage against the head of the democratic government of the State of Israel.
But don't misunderstand me - if Shas brings down the government over this, that will be fine with me because it will be a legitimate Israeli political act, and will likely result in Netanyahu replacing Olmert.

257 doriangrey  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:34:24am

re: #236 JamesTKirk

That has never been proven. Somebody in the Jefferson family had sex with slaves, as shown by the DNA link between the Jeffersons and Hemings descendents today, but there's know way of knowing which Jefferson it was.

Sorry Jim, but that is pathetic. all of Jefferson's brothers were already dead by the time Madison Jefferson was born.

258 paxnhymn  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:34:41am

re: #254 storagemanager

If it was not about slavery...why the KKK?

WTF? What in the HELL does a racist organization (it wasn't originally) to the OFFICIAL reason for the call for cessesion? They were rebels after the fact...I'm not following you're convoluted thinking here...

259 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:35:32am
Speaking on Larry King Live last night, first daughter Jenna Bush, who appeared alongside first lady Laura Bush, confessed that she's not sure if she'll vote for the presumptive Republican nominee for president, Sen. John McCain, and even left open the possibility that she'd support either Sen. Barack Obama or Sen. Hillary Clinton.
KING: Do you have a favorite between the two, the two Democrats?

LAURA BUSH: My favorite is the Republican.

KING (pointing to Jenna): Yours too, I would imagine.

JENNA BUSH: I don't know.

KING: A-ha! Are you open to...

JENNA BUSH: Yeah, of course. I mean, who isn't open to learning about the candidates and I'm sure that everybody's like that.

[Link: www.examiner.com...]

260 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:35:51am

The unforgivable crime is soft hitting. Do not hit at all if it can be avoided; but never hit softly.

— Theodore Roosevelt

The Unforgivible crime is hitting . Do not hit at all, but if you must hit , hit softly as to avoid hitting the wrong people.


--- Teddy Bush

261 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:36:58am

re: #258 paxnhymn

WTF? What in the HELL does a racist organization (it wasn't originally) to the OFFICIAL reason for the call for cessesion? They were rebels after the fact...I'm not following you're convoluted thinking here...

They were made up of rebel troops,judges and town leaders..that is history.

262 4wheel  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:37:01am

re: #252 storagemanager

The North would have invaded even if slavery had never existed. Prior to the war about 75% of the money to operate the Federal Government was derived from the Southern States via an unfair sectional tariff on imported goods and 50% of the total 75% was from just 4 Southern states--Virginia- North Carolina--South Carolina and Georgia. Only 10%--20% of this tax money was being returned to the South. The Southern states were being treated as an agricultural colony of the North and bled dry.

Furthermore, the United States of America was founded as a Constitutional Federal Republic in 1789 composed of a Limited Federal Government and Sovereign States. The North wanted to and did alter the form of Government this nation was founded upon. The CSA fought to preserve Constitutional Limited Federal Government as established by America’s founding fathers who were primarily Southern Gentlemen from Virginia. Thus Confederate soldiers were fighting for rights that had been paid for in blood by their forefathers upon the battlefields of the American Revolution. Abraham Lincoln had a blatant disregard for The Constitution of the United States of America. His War of aggression against the South changed America from a Constitutional Federal Republic to a Democracy ( with Socialist leanings ) and broke the original Constitution. The Socialist Karl Marx sent Lincoln a letter of congratulations after his reelection in 1864. A considerable number of European Socialists came to America and fought for the Union

263 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:38:12am

re: #254 storagemanager

If it was not about slavery...why the KKK?

The KKK has nothing whatever to do with slavery. The War Between the States was long since over before the KKK ever appeared. Most white southerners would not and did not ever belong to the KKK. And the KKK initially arose during Reconstruction, which was imposed on the South by the "victorious" north -----------> absolute lawlesness, complete destruction of anything at all that remained of the economy and the outright confiscation of many people's property.

264 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:39:46am

re: #262 4wheel

Let get this...Abraham Lincoln was a commie?

265 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:41:19am

re: #263 galloping granny
You need to read more...the KKK was made up of town leaders...yes the KKK today is made up of losers...not then!

266 4wheel  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:42:19am

re: #264 storagemanager

Shrugging and shaking my head.

267 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:43:09am

Secret Service Catch Mexican Official Nabbing White House BlackBerries

Whether he was up to no good or simply desperate to play BrickBreaker, a Mexican press attache was caught on camera by Secret Service pocketing several White House BlackBerries during a recent meeting in New Orleans, FOX News has learned.

Sources with knowledge of the incident said the official, whose first name is Rafael, took six or seven of the handheld devices from a table outside a special room in the hotel where the Mexican delegation was meeting with President Bush.

Everyone entering the room was required to leave their cell phones, BlackBerries and other such devices on the table, a commonplace practice when high-level meetings are held. American officials discovered their missing belongings when they were leaving the session.

It didn't take long before Secret Service officials reviewed videotape taken by a surveillance camera and found footage showing "Rafael" absconding with the BlackBerries.

Sources said "Rafael" made it all the way to the airport, where the Mexican president was preparing to leave New Orleans, before Secret Service officers caught up with him. He was forced to return the BlackBerries.

Sources said the man claimed to have taken the devices accidentally. The sources said they believe no further actions were taken against him by American authorities, though it is unclear what disciplinary measures, if any, await him in Mexico.

Good morning lizards!

268 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:43:21am

re: #261 storagemanager

They were made up of SOME Former rebel Confederate troops,judges and town leaders..that is history.

They were also made up of red necks, idiots and many a descendent of a former Damnedyankee carpetbagger or two. Who cares? What exactly is your point?

So what? Some of the Afghans are Taliban. Does that mean that we should simply obliterate them all? I suppose that you also think we should throw out Mozart, Bach and Beethoven because they shared a nationality with Hitler?

269 3 wood  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:43:24am

Will the bloodshed and killing never end?

We need to get out now!

5 killed in South-side Chicago Whorehouse

In one of the worst mass killings in Chicago in years, three men and two women were found shot to death Wednesday afternoon in a ransacked South Side home.

Police are investigating whether the two-story home in the 7600 block of South Rhodes was being used as a house of ill repute, a source said.


Anybody out there believe that the police are not sure if this was a cathouse or not? Me neither.

One of the women was nude and the other was partially clothed, sources said.

Police said they did not have a motive for the shootings. But relatives of Richardson suspect the home was targeted for a robbery, possibly of his jewelry and art.

Ummm, try "cash" as a motive.

270 paxnhymn  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:43:35am

re: #264 storagemanager

Let get this...Abraham Lincoln was a commie?


ohh ssshit! Is this Storage? who is this? talk abou thought process errors today...I got an appointment to keep...BBL

/geez!

271 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:45:26am

re: #264 storagemanager

Abraham Lincoln was a commie?

Implied. Sounds like a rant to me.

272 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:46:05am

The south broke off from the union and fired the first shot...that killed more Americans then any war in history...and that is being defended here of all places?

273 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:46:31am

re: #265 storagemanager

You need to read more...the KKK was made up of town leaders...yes the KKK today is made up of losers...not then!

Storage, I don't know what it is you think you've been reading besides the Bible and propaganda, but frankly, you present the single most ignorant view of the historical South that I have come across in quite some while. And quite frankly, your logic and reasoning is at best circular. YOU read up one whole hell of a lot and then you come lecture me about the history of my people.

274 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:47:33am

I think I'm on Jepardy.

275 sparrowlake  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:47:41am

re: #265 storagemanager

You need to read more...the KKK was made up of town leaders...yes the KKK today is made up of losers...not then!

Pardon my ignorance, but just when did the KKK become "losers"? Was it before or after the first cross-burning on a non-Klansman's property? Was it before or after the first lynching?
Just curious...

276 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:48:12am

re: #274 Cap'n DOC

I think I'm on Jepardy.

Take the Penis Mightier.

277 doriangrey  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:48:31am

re: #264 storagemanager

Let get this...Abraham Lincoln was a commie?

No, Abraham Lincoln like every president before and since sought to increase the authority of the office of the President of the United States. And did so at the expense of America's original constitutional republic. That he had leaning that were more socialist in nature than those of the founding fathers can be quite clearly seen in his response to congress when he suspended habeas corpus in 1862. Congress stated he did not have the authority to suspend habeas corpus, and Lincoln famously ask congress what army they were going to use to force him to re-instate it.

278 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:48:38am

re: #273 galloping granny
I didn't write anything to deserve your rage...I will just pass you by from now on.

279 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:48:44am

Absolute Proof Lincoln was not a communist:

There aren't any Lincoln booths at San Francisco protests

280 4wheel  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:48:50am

re: #272 storagemanager

No one is defending anything. You started this with the ignorant comment about Robert E. Lee. What followed were facts that you don't seem to understand. The Civil War was fought because politicians screwed the people of this country on BOTH sides. Much as they are doing today.

281 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:49:17am

re: #276 JamesTKirk

Nah. Easy Bullshit for $200.

282 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:49:37am

re: #275 sparrowlake

Pardon my ignorance, but just when did the KKK become "losers"? Was it before or after the first cross-burning on a non-Klansman's property? Was it before or after the first lynching?
Just curious...


They were always losers...but most were town leaders.

283 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:50:01am

re: #280 4wheel

No one is defending anything. You started this with the ignorant comment about Robert E. Lee. What followed were facts that you don't seem to understand. The Civil War was fought because politicians screwed the people of this country on BOTH sides. Much as they are doing today.

EXACTLY!

284 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:50:55am
SAN JOSE, Calif. -- A simple flaw in the coding of Sen. Barack Obama's Web site led to a hacking switcheroo of presidential proportions just days before the important Pennsylvania primary.

Some supporters who tried to visit the community blogs section of Obama's site started noticing late last week they were being redirected to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's official campaign site.

heh.

285 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:51:36am

re: #280 4wheel

No one is defending anything. You started this with the ignorant comment about Robert E. Lee. What followed were facts that you don't seem to understand. The Civil War was fought because politicians screwed the people of this country on BOTH sides. Much as they are doing today.


that is your take...the slaves that were freed..may have thought different.

286 laZardo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:53:32am

re: #284 NJDhockeyfan

*snicker*

287 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:53:48am

When the north won...human being's were freed...and lead into poverty thanks to Jim crow...those are facts...attack away.

288 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:53:56am

When it comes to the south All I know is that Bo and Luke Duke were cool and the General Lee was the fastest car around, even if the doors didn't work.

289 4wheel  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:54:01am

re: #285 storagemanager

You went to a public (i.e. government ran) school, didn't you. If ignorance is bliss, and patience is a virtue, if you're stupid and don't mind standing around, you can have a pretty good life.

290 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:54:03am

re: #285 storagemanager

that is your take...the slaves that were freed..may have thought different.

Of course... They would have been freed even sooner, without violence, if we'd never broken away from the UK in the first place...

291 laZardo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:54:58am

Woo-eee! Did I step into the middle of a semantic firefight again?

292 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:56:12am

re: #291 laZardo

Woo-eee! Did I step into the middle of a semantic firefight again?

Yeah, but if you don't want to get involved, make dick jokes.

293 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:56:13am

re: #284 NJDhockeyfan

heh.

It's great watching them tear each other to pieces.

and last night Hell Froze over, sean hannity and Terry " the punk " McCaullife actually agreed on just about everything
--Obama has been given a total pass
-- Hillary is much less of a whiner than Obama


surreal year in politics, for sure. I can't wait for the floor fight in chigago.

Time to think of a "thrilla in manilla" these for the windy city

294 ec marm  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:57:01am

re: #276 JamesTKirk

Take the Penis Mightier.


I'll take "Not in the 'R's' for 200.

295 rightside  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:57:36am

re: #293 Shug


What's in Chicago?

296 somecallmetim  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:58:29am

All I know about the south is that when the Dukes of Hazzard first came out Bo and Luke would fire flaming arrows. Then a few shows in they stopped. I lost interest in the show with the exception of the gratuitous Daisy Duke leg shots.re: #288 Shug

297 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:58:56am

re: #290 JamesTKirk

Of course... They would have been freed even sooner, without violence, if we'd never broken away from the UK in the first place...

we broke away...because we were in bondage...do you fail to understand that?

298 laZardo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:58:59am

re: #293 Shug

With President Bush watching from the front row.

/recalls reading that ol' Ferdinand (Marcos) was at the front row for the IRL thrillah...

299 doriangrey  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:59:01am

re: #280 4wheel

No one is defending anything. You started this with the ignorant comment about Robert E. Lee. What followed were facts that you don't seem to understand. The Civil War was fought because politicians screwed the people of this country on BOTH sides. Much as they are doing today.

Somehow an awful lot of people seem to forget or have never learned that the American civil war was fought by Americans. Both sides were equally American citizens, the south was not fighting to preserve slavery, but what they believed the was the correct interpretation of the US constitution. Was slavery a major issue? Without question, it was the single issue that tipped the scale. But the true conflict was one of states rights versus the authority of the federal government. It was a genuine constitutional crises. Did the US constitution guarantee sovereignty to the State's or were the states right's merely grants of privilege from the federal government.

300 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 5:59:40am

re: #295 rightside

What's in Chicago?

oops, I was thinking of the last time there were riot police at a convention......LOL

It's early.

I mean Denver

We can call it the Mile High Shootout

301 Widow'smight  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:00:07am

re: #265 storagemanager

Storage, If you're using the argument that the Northern States actions that led to the Civil War were to stop Slavery, and the Northern States fought to end Slavery, there's a Constitutional problem.

Slavery was not abolished by the constitution, and so though morally wrong, it was not legally wrong at the time. There were no State laws (I don't think) in the Northern States making it illegal.

So, they force the Southern States into a conflict for something that's not illegal anywhere?

302 rightside  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:00:15am

Just for you, JamesTKirk

303 laZardo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:01:20am

re: #297 storagemanager

/steps in

Britain abolished the slave trade in 1807, freed the slaves in 1833.

/sidesteps out to think up a dick joke

304 TrollBot PrtoType Six  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:01:36am

re: #262 4wheel

The North would have invaded even if slavery had never existed. Prior to the war about 75% of the money to operate the Federal Government was derived from the Southern States via an unfair sectional tariff on imported goods and 50% of the total 75% was from just 4 Southern states--Virginia- North Carolina--South Carolina and Georgia. Only 10%--20% of this tax money was being returned to the South. The Southern states were being treated as an agricultural colony of the North and bled dry.

Furthermore, the United States of America was founded as a Constitutional Federal Republic in 1789 composed of a Limited Federal Government and Sovereign States. The North wanted to and did alter the form of Government this nation was founded upon. The CSA fought to preserve Constitutional Limited Federal Government as established by America’s founding fathers who were primarily Southern Gentlemen from Virginia. Thus Confederate soldiers were fighting for rights that had been paid for in blood by their forefathers upon the battlefields of the American Revolution. Abraham Lincoln had a blatant disregard for The Constitution of the United States of America. His War of aggression against the South changed America from a Constitutional Federal Republic to a Democracy ( with Socialist leanings ) and broke the original Constitution. The Socialist Karl Marx sent Lincoln a letter of congratulations after his reelection in 1864. A considerable number of European Socialists came to America and fought for the Union

You are right on the mark!
It was about economics.
I'll just add that Ft Sumter was being used a custom house, and as such it became the focus of the anti-tariff folks in Charleston.

305 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:01:40am

I was raised to see right and wrong...putting a human being in bondage is wrong....if you define your like by human laws..on what is right and wrong so be it....I do not.

306 doriangrey  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:01:54am

re: #297 storagemanager

we broke away...because we were in bondage...do you fail to understand that?

You speak of things you obvious know not.

307 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:02:14am

re: #305 storagemanager

I was raised to see right and wrong...putting a human being in bondage is wrong....if you define your like by human laws..on what is right and wrong so be it....I do not.

a little light bondage can be fun, with the right girl

308 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:03:07am

re: #297 storagemanager

we broke away...because we were in bondage...do you fail to understand that?

After listening to Sulu, I think I know more about bondage than you do.

309 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:03:29am

Greets and saluts from the most lovely NYC metro area. It was beautiful stepping out the door this morning to temps in the 60s and the high temp today in Manhattan is expected to top out around 80.

For all the talk about food rationing in California and other such blatherings, there is real news out there that may hit home before long. And it has to do with China. They appear to be facing an energy crunch of epic proportions, and if the communists in charge can't get coal shipments to the thousands of power plants across the country, it will start a ripple effect both in China and around the world.

Then again, it would also mean cleaner air as all those power plants and factories have to shut down for want of coal to burn, but that's when the real problems begin.

310 doriangrey  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:03:40am

re: #305 storagemanager

I was raised to see right and wrong...putting a human being in bondage is wrong....if you define your like by human laws..on what is right and wrong so be it....I do not.

There is a way that seemth right to a man....

311 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:04:02am

Go get breakfast and the Civil War breaks out on LGF.

312 doriangrey  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:04:23am

Opp's time to run off to my wage slavery.........

313 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:04:24am

re: #300 Shug

oops, I was thinking of the last time there were riot police at a convention......LOL

It's early.

I mean Denver

We can call it the Mile High Shootout

No matter who wins in Denver, we're screwed. Might as well call it the Mile High Club.

314 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:04:37am

I hate Islam because it enslaves people...we have the human right to be free...and no man is above another..

315 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:05:12am

re: #302 rightside

Just for you, JamesTKirk

[Link: www.somethingpositive.net...]

316 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:05:46am

re: #311 Dar ul Harb

Go get breakfast and the Civil War breaks out on LGF.

not so civil

317 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:06:15am

re: #313 JamesTKirk


with no hope of a reach-around

318 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:06:32am

re: #296 somecallmetim

All I know about the south is that when the Dukes of Hazzard first came out Bo and Luke would fire flaming arrows.

I thought they had some magical Hollywood arrows that you could strap a stick of dynamite on and still shoot them as far and straight as if they were unencumbered. Or am I thinking of something else?

319 4wheel  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:06:51am

re: #299 doriangrey

Yes.

320 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:07:09am

re: #316 Shug

not so civil

Was on my part...no name calling on this side.

321 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:07:54am

re: #293 Shug

It's great watching them tear each other to pieces.

and last night Hell Froze over, sean hannity and Terry " the punk " McCaullife actually agreed on just about everything
--Obama has been given a total pass
-- Hillary is much less of a whiner than Obama


surreal year in politics, for sure. I can't wait for the floor fight in chigago.

Time to think of a "thrilla in manilla" these for the windy city

Well, it is true that Obama has been given a pass. Just watch the pages of the NYT demanding that Hillary get out of the way of the Obamarama even though she can claim that she's won all the big states needed to win the general election and that should carry weight. They were calling for her to cede the race even before the PA results were in. Astounding just how far in the tank the media is for Obama.

Also, Obama has a serious glass jaw and yet Hillary can't seem to deliver the knockout blow - which again shows just how poor a candidate that Hillary is.

322 TrollBot PrtoType Six  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:08:05am

re: #264 storagemanager

Let get this...Abraham Lincoln was a commie?

Did you know that Fort McHenry was Lincoln's 'Gitmo'?

323 rightside  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:08:26am

re: #315 JamesTKirk

LOL

324 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:08:52am

For not being a fan of Robert E Lee I was called all kinds of things..

325 4wheel  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:09:09am

re: #314 storagemanager

"I hate Islam because it enslaves people...we have the human right to be free...and no man is above another.."

On that, we agree.

326 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:09:11am

re: #322 TrollBot PrtoType Six

Did you know that Fort McHenry was Lincoln's 'Gitmo'?

It's also a fact that Lincoln did not observe or even recognize the existence of the Geneva Convention.

327 loppyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:09:38am

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

Another beautiful day here on Boston's North Shore....

328 Josephine  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:09:51am

Good morning, folks. I have to make a drive-by comment because I'm heading out the door. I'm enjoying my full-time work contract but I miss having the time to read and comment here. By evening-time, I'm pretty tuckered out.

I wish you well today.

329 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:10:16am

re: #321 lawhawk


totally agree

and that makes the fact that either one of these weak candidates will still pull close to 50% in the general, and the election once again will probably come down to one or two states

There ought to be a basic civics test at the end of your ballot, and you must achieve a passing score before your ballot will be read

330 adragonknowsbest  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:11:20am

re: #288 Shug

When it comes to the south Lynyrd Skynryd said it best. "Does your conscience bother you? Tell the truth."

Oh and don't foget Daisy Dukes too...

331 littleO  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:12:08am

I hate repups, but, I am forced to vote for them! I hate dimms for the following reason among others.
This super-delegate idea is corrupt to the core. It is like an electoral collage, except, that the do not have to hold to the Primary/caucus voters expressed will.
I watched Shepard Smith repeatedly ask dimm. bobbleheads like questions yesterday and got bobblehead answer for his viewers.

and bobbleheads is not in the spelling lexicon.

332 somecallmetim  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:14:54am

You are right. They were arrows that flew with dynamite attached, blew up outhouses and stuff. Very cool.re: #318 Dar ul Harb

333 rightside  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:15:39am

Morning to all recent arrivals!

334 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:15:50am

re: #332 somecallmetim

You are right. They were arrows that flew with dynamite attached, blew up outhouses and stuff. Very cool.

The last thing I would want to explode is an outhouse

Great idea, spray shit all over the place

335 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:16:01am

OT: Because I know this has come up many times on LGF (and I don't mean my penis), today there's a free download of a YouTube video saver/converter (An easy-to-use windows software to download youtube music videos and convert them to MP3, AVI, WMV, MOV, MP4, 3GP formats.) on the Giveaway of the Day site (which has a different piece of free software available every day, but only if you download it and install it on that day).

336 Steffan  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:16:30am

It's official: Arianna Huffington is off her meds.
[Link: www.latimes.com...]

Over the last seven years, the lunatic fringe in control of the Republican Party -- the people who believe in torture but don't believe in evolution -- have hijacked our democracy, aided and abetted by the news media. The heart of the problem is not the bias of Fox News or the blowhards on AM talk radio but a mainstream media that has completely internalized how the right frames all political debate. The right-wing message has become a part of the news media's DNA.

The latest confirmation came with this week's announcement that Tony Snow, formerly a host at Fox News and press secretary for the White House, where he earned high marks as a gifted purveyor of Bush/Cheney propaganda, would be joining CNN as a commentator. I guess Karl Rove was too busy with his Newsweek gig and Bill Kristol with his New York Times column. What's next, NPR signing up "Scooter" Libby and David Addington?

What is she smoking, and where can I get some?

337 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:16:51am

re: #316 Shug

not so civil

Yeah, well I'm a Southerner, and I respect Lincoln and Lee for their historical contributions. If it weren't for Lincoln, we'd have probably had an even tougher time of it in the 20th century.

(I note as an aside to the discussion of Lincoln's collectivist tendencies, that in Turtledove's alternate history, Lincoln survives the Southern victory and becomes a union organizer.)

338 3 wood  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:17:41am

re: #327 loppyd

Good morning loppyd

Pray for realwest today, he's got an important doctor visit.

I'd also ask for prayer for my White Sox too, but when they made a has-been like Mussina look unhittable last night, they went beyond help.

339 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:17:43am
340 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:19:20am

re: #338 3 wood

Good morning loppyd

Pray for realwest today, he's got an important doctor visit.

I'd also ask for prayer for my White Sox too, but when they made a has-been like Mussina look unhittable last night, they went beyond help.

1. absolutely

2. Hell No

341 somecallmetim  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:19:25am

re: #334 Shug
The outhouse I believe was an accident, but useful for comic relief. Anyway they were several hundred meters away so ouside the shit impact area.

342 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:20:21am

re: #326 JamesTKirk

It's also a fact that Lincoln did not observe or even recognize the existence of the Geneva Convention.

The only "Geneva Convention" that existed at the time was the first one, dealing with truces for the purpose of evacuation of battlefield casualties.

343 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:21:24am
344 loppyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:22:02am

re: #338 3 wood

Good morning loppyd

Pray for realwest today, he's got an important doctor visit.

I'd also ask for prayer for my White Sox too, but when they made a has-been like Mussina look unhittable last night, they went beyond help.

Good Morning, 3 wood.

Yes, yes. Prayers for {realwest}.

Those nights for Mussina are rare these days....

345 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:22:31am

Morning all! Hope things find you safe and sane today so far...

Interesting read in this morning 's New York Post (I will try and link to it), showing the Dem race in terms of Electotral Votes... Based on the states Hillary has won thus far and would still likely carry in November, she would have about 240 EV's... Obama would have much, much less less since he has won in mainly 'Red' states...

I stick to my guns that I'd rather have Obama than Hillary in the General Election...

346 loppyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:24:17am

re: #345 tfc3rid

Good Morning!

I am compiling my Julie McCoy itinerary for you and your GF.....

347 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:24:17am

We can't wait to face Mr Mussina


sincerely,

Mr Granderson
Mr Ordonez
Mr Guillen
Mr Cabrera
Mr Renteria
Mr Polonco
Mr Sheffield

348 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:24:49am

re: #339 NJDhockeyfan

CNN Sued for More Than $1.3B for Chinese 'Goons' Comment

I love you, Jack!

349 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:25:11am

re: #287 storagemanager

When the north won...human being's were freed...and lead into poverty thanks to Jim crow...those are facts...attack away.

When the North won, the slaves were freed - that is true. However, they were "freed" in a place that had no economy at all for anyone. They were not "led into poverty." The white plantation owners and farmers could not afford to hire the freed black slaves at all, much less pay the exhorbitant wages imposed by the officials of "Reconstruction". Most of them could not afford to plant crops - at all. Many of them lost their land themselves because they could not pay the exhorbitant taxes and fines foisted on them by the Northern "victors." The whites starved right along with the freed black former slaves. Not a single white Northerner showed up dragging a gravy train for either the whites or the blacks. The South's economy remained devastated for more than 100 years, until Northern factory owners, tired of paying union wages in New England, closed their factories and moved them to the south, where unions were rare and wages were very low - for both blacks and whites.

If you want to blame somebody for 100+ years of "Jim Crow" put the blame right where it belongs - on the Northern powers in Washington DC that imposed Reconstruction on the south.

350 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:25:27am

re: #342 Dar ul Harb

The only "Geneva Convention" that existed at the time was the first one, dealing with truces for the purpose of evacuation of battlefield casualties.

Yes, I know. It was a joke.

351 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:25:34am

re: #345 tfc3rid

Morning all! Hope things find you safe and sane today so far...

Define "sane".

352 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:26:21am

re: #351 MandyManners

Define "sane".

I don't think I'm qualified.

353 abolitionist  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:27:11am

re: #244 storagemanager

Fighting a war to be free of bondage...and fighting a war to keep your slaves...there is a clear line.

Maybe so, but that wasn't the issue Lincoln considered most critical:

"Executive Mansion
Washington, August 22, 1862

Hon. Horace Greeley:

Dear Sir.

I have just read yours of the 19th. addressed to myself through the New-York Tribune. If there be in it any statements, or assumptions of fact, which I may know to be erroneous, I do not, now and here, controvert them. If there be in it any inferences which I may believe to be falsely drawn, I do not now and here, argue against them. If there be perceptible in it an impatient and dictatorial tone, I waive it in deference to an old friend, whose heart I have always supposed to be right.

As to the policy I "seem to be pursuing" as you say, I have not meant to leave any one in doubt. I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.

I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free.

Yours,
A. Lincoln" [23]
[Link: www.brotherswar.com...]

354 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:27:19am

re: #351 MandyManners

Define "sane".

Doesn't ride ATV near Mandy's house

355 laZardo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:27:24am

BBL, gonna get myself a drink. Non-alcoholic, that is.

356 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:28:38am

re: #350 JamesTKirk

Yes, I know. It was a joke.

I figured.

357 flrdalynn  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:28:51am

re: #309 lawhawk
Good morning law hawk and everyone else! It's a beautiful day in Central Florida too! In relation to your food rationing comment, I would like to say that I do think a possible food crisis could make our real estate bubble look like small potatoes (no pun intended) with instead of for sale and for rent signs hanging from forlorn empty houses all over the US, we will see millions of hungry to starving people all over the world. I think even the government is beginning to sit up and take notice. I understand they are rethinking the bio-fuel issue and what percentage of crops are grown for that purpose even as we speak.

358 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:28:57am

re: #352 JamesTKirk

I don't think I'm qualified.

Don't let them know.

359 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:29:33am

re: #324 storagemanager

For not being a fan of Robert E Lee I was called all kinds of things..

For not knowing your history and making ridiculous arguments you were "called all kinds of things" - like ignorant and illogical. I don't care if you are a Robert E. Lee fan, but I do care when you disparage him. Whether or not you LIKE what he had to say, he had the right to say it and to act on his conscience.

There are NO CLEAN HANDS - including Lincoln's.

360 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:31:17am
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

361 loppyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:31:33am

Bartenders serve up drinks, customs checks

All the 33-year-old illegal immigrant wanted was a beer. After nearly a decade in this country, the Irish national knew to steer clear of police and federal agents. But he was stunned this month when a bartender at the Orpheum refused to serve him because his passport lacked a US Customs stamp.

Of course the ACLU is opposed to the policy:


"Asking a bartender to go above and beyond and check the federal government's stamp of approval and make a determination of whether it's valid is ridiculous," said Anjali Waikar, a lawyer with the ACLU of Massachusetts.
362 TrollBot PrtoType Six  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:31:34am

re: #345 tfc3rid

Morning all! Hope things find you safe and sane today so far...

Interesting read in this morning 's New York Post (I will try and link to it), showing the Dem race in terms of Electotral Votes... Based on the states Hillary has won thus far and would still likely carry in November, she would have about 240 EV's... Obama would have much, much less less since he has won in mainly 'Red' states...

I stick to my guns that I'd rather have Obama than Hillary in the General Election...

If the electorate were logical I would have to agree with you, but I really believe that the voting public is a bunch of idiots and will vote for Mr. young and good looking rather the old fart.

363 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:31:54am

re: #354 Shug

Doesn't ride ATV near Mandy's house

Especially through the amber waves of grain.

364 adragonknowsbest  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:32:10am

re: #345 tfc3rid

I agree completely. Obama has taken serious damage. His associations and his character are now a serious weakness. Even Jay Leno on the Tonight Show referred to him as "elitist". The worst damage that Hillary has seem to taken is that "sniper fire" fiasco. She manned up and said she exaggerated and apologized. It's now over and don and of very little significance anyway. Quite frankly, taking on Hillary is a much harder task.

Besides, in somewhat reliable polls that have been reported by Fox News radio Hillary has decent leads on McCain in preliminary national polls while McCain has a lead over Obama in these same polls.

365 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:32:15am

re: #359 galloping granny
Let's just GAZE each other ok?

366 galloping granny  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:33:39am

re: #360 storagemanager

Did you notice that slavery is not mentioned even once in the Gettysburg Address? All he talks about is preservation of the Union.

367 yochanan  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:33:47am

Yankee here.
we won get over it.

the civil war was also about the accidence of capitalism over feudalism.

slavery was anathema to capitalism. Serfdom is useless if you have to sell products you need buyers.

States rights vs. abolitionist struggle was for popular consumption but the deeper conflict had just as much to do with the economic system in place and the emerging one.

368 madisonsfriend  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:33:59am

re: #357 flrdalynn

Good morning law hawk and everyone else! It's a beautiful day in Central Florida too! In relation to your food rationing comment, I would like to say that I do think a possible food crisis could make our real estate bubble look like small potatoes (no pun intended) with instead of for sale and for rent signs hanging from forlorn empty houses all over the US, we will see millions of hungry to starving people all over the world. I think even the government is beginning to sit up and take notice. I understand they are rethinking the bio-fuel issue and what percentage of crops are grown for that purpose even as we speak.


I heard on the news( but because I have no idea who said it) that 40% of the corn crop next year will be used for ethanol. I know very little about food production(although I expect some excellent tomatoes and basil this year in my yard) but I have heard that it is not the amount of food the world could produce but what actually happens- not growing, waste, how food aid is distributed(over which most Aid groups have no control- the fraud is abysmal in many countries)

369 3 wood  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:34:01am

re: #347 Shug

I hear the Lions are likely to draft the RB from Illinois.

If so, good pick.

I expect the my Bears to trade down and draft another slow RB with no moves, short QB with happy feet, or an O-lineman who could not keep a turtle from coming free up the A-gap.

370 flrdalynn  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:34:10am

re: #360 storagemanager

I love those words. They're beautiful.

371 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:34:27am

re: #346 loppyd

Good Morning!

I am compiling my Julie McCoy itinerary for you and your GF.....

Most excellent! I totally appreciate it...

372 Bubblehead II  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:35:36am

re: #339 NJDhockeyfan

First off, Morning Lizards from a cool 38 but clear Twin Falls.

Cafferty said the United States imported Chinese-made "junk with the lead paint on them and the poisoned pet food".

He added: "They're basically the same bunch of goons and thugs they've been for the last 50 years".

Truth hurts doesn't it?

373 loppyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:36:29am

re: #371 tfc3rid

Most excellent! I totally appreciate it...

No prob.

I forget - Has your GF ever been to Boston?

374 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:37:31am

re: #373 loppyd

No prob.

I forget - Has your GF ever been to Boston?

She has never been... I'e been a ew times with buddies, more for Red Sox games and drinking rather than touring...

375 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:37:43am

re: #369 3 wood

I hear the Lions are likely to draft the RB from Illinois.

If so, good pick.

I expect the my Bears to trade down and draft another slow RB with no moves, short QB with happy feet, or an O-lineman who could not keep a turtle from coming free up the A-gap.


I am a recovering Lions fan. Currently in a 12 step program

God grant me the serenity to accept the Lions for what they are ( shit), the3 wisdom to not get my hopes up every april, and the ability to win at fantasy football since it's all I have left on Sundays in the Fall

Maybe the Bears can pick up Gus Frerrotte or Jeff george to back up your yutes.

at least Soldier field has a good tailgate

376 madisonsfriend  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:38:00am

re: #373 loppyd

Know anything about Mike's Bakery?

377 loppyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:38:11am

re: #374 tfc3rid

She has never been... I'e been a ew times with buddies, more for Red Sox games and drinking rather than touring...

Does she like to shop?

378 3 wood  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:38:25am

By the way, Jammie if you are out there, you got mail.

379 loppyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:38:49am

re: #376 madisonsfriend

Know anything about Mike's Bakery?

Why yes, I do....

The last time I was there I saw a couple get engaged.

380 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:39:11am

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad issued a warning to Syria on Thursday not to side with the Americans.

Slideshow: Pictures of the week "We must always be prepared to thwart the plans of the US in the region," Ahmadinejad told Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Moallem in Teheran.

According to the Iranian Students News Agency (ISNA), Ahmadinejad said that "the Americans are on the verge of destruction" and that "anyone who sides with them will also go the same way."

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

381 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:39:33am

Look folks, North, South, what have you... the War Betwixt the States is history... Over...

We can debate the reasons behind it, the main players and the impact on the US since but it's important that we don't try and fight the thing all over again...

382 madisonsfriend  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:39:50am

re: #379 loppyd

I was told not to miss it next time I am there. Of course, I am almost never get there but maybe on a detour from New Hampshire.

383 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:40:07am

re: #377 loppyd

Does she like to shop?

Does the sun rise in the East and set in the West? LOL

384 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:40:26am

re: #358 MandyManners

Don't let them know.

They're everywhere. They're watching me all the time.

385 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:40:56am

re: #380 storagemanager

It's just empty rhetoric... He doesn't mean real destruction, it's just lost in the interpretation...

386 vxbush  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:41:08am

Okay, boys, and girls, let me share some medical advice from personal experience:

It's usually a Very Bad Idea™ to mix migraine medicines and muscle relaxants. At least, combining Relpax and Skelaxin would fall under the Very Bad Idea™ motto.

That is all.

387 akak  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:41:21am

I'll bet you 10 bucks 2 bags of rice Charles leads with this:

Five construction workers have reportedly been shot dead outside a school in Thailand's restive south.
388 3 wood  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:41:23am

re: #375 Shug

I am a recovering Lions fan. Currently in a 12 step program

I call it the "Tampa Bay Plan".

If you draft early enough often enough, you can't help but accidentally get some good players and improve.

But our GM Angelo can't draft a 1st round pick who can play to save his life. I wish he would just trade out of the first round and save us the agony of watching each years 1st rounder be a bust.

389 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:41:46am

Iraq army in 'full control of Basra'


A MONTH after Iraqi troops poured into the southern city of Basra to take on militiamen who had overrun five neighbourhoods, the Government says it has regained control of the streets.

"All areas of Basra are under the command of the security forces," interior ministry spokesman
Major General Abdel Karim Khalaf said today.

"There are no areas under the control of armed men. Iraqi police are deployed in all Basra streets," he said.

Many residents reported they feel safer as a measure of normality has returned to the oil-rich city with the reopening of markets and the resumption of basic services.

390 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:42:47am

re: #389 NJDhockeyfan

Good for the Iraqi Army... Damn, we must have trained them well...

391 Sean  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:43:25am

Is anybody else jazzed up about the oil finds in Brazil? The implications for the Saudis are bad. no more influence peddling! Can you imagine the joy of ignoring the ME because it'll be irrelevant?

392 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:43:25am
393 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:43:46am

re: #391 Sean

Is anybody else jazzed up about the oil finds in Brazil? The implications for the Saudis are bad. no more influence peddling! Can you imagine the joy of ignoring the ME because it'll be irrelevant?

What oil finds in Brazil?

394 storagemanager  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:44:10am

I think I need a couple a days to think...take care.

395 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:44:13am

re: #386 vxbush

Okay, boys, and girls, let me share some medical advice from personal experience:


That is all.

Scarey shit!

396 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:44:33am

re: #388 3 wood

I call it the "Tampa Bay Plan".

If you draft early enough often enough, you can't help but accidentally get some good players and improve.

Have you ever heard of Matt Millen ?

He makes the impossible possible. ( at least when it comes to underachievement. apparently we are rebuilding again.

I guess to Millen and the Lions, hitting your pinnacle means falling outside of the first 10 picks in next year's draft

397 hayseed  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:44:53am

re: #388 3 wood

any one want chad johnson? you can have him

398 vxbush  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:45:11am

re: #395 MandyManners

Scarey sh!t!

Hey, I survived. Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right?

399 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:45:21am

re: #397 hayseed

any one want chad johnson? you can have him


ocho stinko

400 Bubblehead II  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:46:08am

Malaysia: Iran booted from defense show

Iran has been kicked out of an international defense show in Malaysia for exhibiting missile equipment in violation of UN rules, an official said Thursday.

/Rules? We don't need to follow any stinkin rules.

401 Sean  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:46:17am

re: #393 tfc3rid


These oil finds!

402 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:46:40am

re: #392 MandyManners

That happens to naked captains.

You don't like the way I'm dressed?

403 flrdalynn  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:47:16am

Take care store managerre: #394 storagemanager

Take care store manager.

404 vxbush  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:47:36am

re: #400 Bubblehead II

Malaysia: Iran booted from defense show

Iran has been kicked out of an international defense show in Malaysia for exhibiting missile equipment in violation of UN rules, an official said Thursday.

/Rules? We don't need to follow any stinkin rules.

Wait. Let me get this straight. There is this international show to show off weapons. But Iran shows off missiles and apparently those weren't allowed.

Was this The Grenade Show? The Tank Show? You know, letting your vendors know in advance does a world of good.

/extra snarky today

405 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:47:44am

re: #402 JamesTKirk


#2 is hilarious

406 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:48:02am
407 LanceKates  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:49:03am

Good Morning all.

State congress passed a bill regarding making English the official state language.

It is expected that the Democrat Governor will sign the bill, as he doesn't have to take a stand on it..... signing the bill means that the issue will be put on the ballots here in November.

That way he can sign the bill and ask for people to vote against it.

If all goes well, the vote will be "Not just Yes, but HELL YES!" to making english the official language of the state.

408 loppyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:49:09am

re: #382 madisonsfriend

I was told not to miss it next time I am there. Of course, I am almost never get there but maybe on a detour from New Hampshire.

It is a landmark and they do have the best cannoli around....

Are you in NH? I apologize if we have had this conversation before....I need to open a folder with LGF bios. LOL

409 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:49:48am

re: #405 Shug

[Link: img518.imageshack.us...]

410 vxbush  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:50:00am

re: #408 loppyd

It is a landmark and they do have the best cannoli around....

Are you in NH? I apologize if we have had this conversation before....I need to open a folder with LGF bios. LOL

Or at least, we need a Lizard's Restaurant Recommendation List to go along with Zombie's Dictionary.

411 LanceKates  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:50:04am

re: #406 JamesTKirk

[Link: img229.imageshack.us...]

Uhura knew.... that's why she's not laughing at spok, but at all of the rest of the guys.

412 loppyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:50:09am

re: #383 tfc3rid

Does the sun rise in the East and set in the West? LOL

That's what I figured, but some women are born without the gene.

LOL

Adding Newbury Street to the list.....

413 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:50:47am

re: #401 Sean

These oil finds!

And I'm sure as a result, that grubby Hugo Chavez will start to incite some of his thuggish supporters to take over Brazil...

414 loppyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:51:10am

re: #410 vxbush

Or at least, we need a Lizard's Restaurant Recommendation List to go along with Zombie's Dictionary.

Excellent idea!

415 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:51:36am

re: #407 LanceKates

You know how the media will spin that vote Lance... LOL

Haters...

416 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:51:40am

re: #398 vxbush

Hey, I survived. Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right?

And, really mellow.

417 JamesTKirk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:51:54am

re: #411 LanceKates

Uhura knew.... that's why she's not laughing at spok, but at all of the rest of the guys.

[Link: img229.imageshack.us...]

418 SecondComing  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:52:04am

Charles, I'm surprised you don't have a geek/tech post about the newest Ubuntu release that came out today.

[Link: www.engadget.com...]

Maybe that will come later?

419 vxbush  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:52:08am

re: #414 loppyd

Excellent idea!

Yes, but it needs a better name:

Lizard Recommended Rocks?
Lizard Sunning Recommendations?
Lizard's Best Rocks?

420 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:52:10am

re: #402 JamesTKirk

You don't like the way I'm dressed?

Beautiful!

421 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:53:50am