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US, Britain, and France Walk Out of UN Meeting

Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:21:15 am PDT

The US, Britain, and France walked out of a UN Security Council meeting yesterday, after the Libyan ambassador made a typically disgusting statement.

UNITED NATIONS - Dilomats from the United States, Britain and France have walked out of a U.N. Security Council meeting after Libya compared the situation in Gaza to Nazi concentration camps.

Wednesday’s walkout was a rare protest by members of the U.N.’s most powerful body against one of their own members.

It came when Libya’s deputy ambassador made the comment during a closed council discussion of the possibility of issuing a press statement on recent Mideast events.

Why walk out now? This kind of antisemitism is nothing new at the United Nations.

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1 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:22:49am
2 LanceKates  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:23:00am

I thought they didn't believe that there were concentration camps.

3 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:23:05am
Why walk out now?

Election year

4 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:23:07am

Walk out and keep going. Don't look back, and don't send money.

5 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:23:16am

Well you let a country like Libya onto the UN Security Council and you usually get what you deserve.

6 LanceKates  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:23:48am

re: #5 Nevergiveup

Well you let a country like Libya onto the UN Security Council and you usually get what you deserve.

They did such a bang-up job when they were on the Human Rights council!

/

7 princetrumpet  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:24:44am

Well, what IS significant is France walking out with us and the UK. It would have been a stronger statement had Germany done so as well. The German contingent are probably kicking themselves that they didn't by now.

8 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:24:56am

Three basic problems

1. Libya is even on the security council

2. All they did was walk out

3.

Kumalo would not confirm the walkout, saying "ambassadors always walk in and out" of council meetings.

--The guy in charge is a wimp


PS: typo "Dilomats"

9 looking closely  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:25:04am

Way to go Allies.

What the hell was Libya doing there anyway?

10 pat  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:25:15am

Likely a coincidence. Lunchtime

11 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:26:02am
Why walk out now? This kind of antisemitism is nothing new at the United Nations.

Yes, but the French and British walking out is new.

Shouldn't complain when they do the right thing.

12 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:26:06am

re: #10 pat

Likely a coincidence. Lunchtime

That's true, somebody rang the Hooker and martini bell

13 princetrumpet  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:26:50am

Wasn't Libya in charge of Human Rights for the UN a bunch of years ago?

14 VegasRick  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:26:52am

re: #8 Shug

Three basic problems

1. Libya is even on the security council

2. All they did was walk out

3.


--The guy in charge is a wimp


PS: typo "Dilomats"

Dildomats - phoney d**ks.

15 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:26:54am

re: #10 pat

Likely a coincidence. Lunchtime

That is an interesting point. Perhaps they are all breaking for a long 4 day weekend?

16 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:27:00am

Libya was voted on by the General Assembly in the usual rotation of Security council nonpermanent members. Permanently excluded from a seat - Israel - because the Arabs would never allow it.

17 Fat Jolly Penguin  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:27:22am

re: #9 looking closely

Way to go Allies.

What the hell was Libya doing there anyway?

Libya is a member of the Security Council.

/AAAAAAARRRGGGGHHH!

18 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:27:26am

I guess I'll give a partial cheer for a rare moment of something resembling moral clarity at the UN.

19 stevieray  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:27:37am

re: #7 princetrumpet

Is Germany on the Security Council? I don't think they are...

20 MJ  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:27:43am

Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you.
Satchel Paige

21 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:27:44am

alternate explanation :

maybe they needed to run out and put some more money in their parking meters

/

22 maddogg  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:28:18am

re: #11 Ringo the Gringo

Yes, but the French and British walking out is new.

Shouldn't complain when they do the right thing.

The right thing would have been to bust the fool in the mouth.

/wishful, I know...

23 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:28:36am
after Libya compared the situation in Gaza to Nazi concentration camps.

So they Libyans really think Hamas is that bad, eh?

Oh, they weren't talking about Hamas. Who, you know, run Gaza.

24 VegasRick  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:28:51am

re: #21 Shug

alternate explanation :

maybe they needed to run out and put some more money in their parking meters

/

They don't pay for parking. Just disregard the tickets.

25 Fat Jolly Penguin  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:29:13am

re: #19 stevieray

Is Germany on the Security Council? I don't think they are...

They aren't now, but this shows the years they were.

26 bosforus  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:29:27am

re: #10 pat

Likely a coincidence. Lunchtime

A 'football' game was announced over the PA system. The US diplomat didn't understand.

27 threecoloursblue  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:29:31am

re: #7 princetrumpet

Germany has a seat on the UN security council?

28 GOP Goalie  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:29:46am

re: #7 princetrumpet

Well, what IS significant is France walking out with us and the UK. It would have been a stronger statement had Germany done so as well. The German contingent are probably kicking themselves that they didn't by now.

Is Germany currently on the Security Council? I don't know which countries are in the 'rotating seats' at the moment (except Libya, disgustingly and obviously). BRB to check...

29 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:30:03am

re: #23 Occasional Reader

So they Libyans really think Hamas is that bad, eh?

Oh, they weren't talking about Hamas. Who, you know, run Gaza.

Maybe he was talking about Egypt, which last time I bothered to look had a border with it's Arab brothers in Gaza.

30 princetrumpet  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:30:11am

Sorry, I was wrong.

31 loppyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:30:28am

I think it's a good thing.

I hope it continues, but I won't hold my breath.

32 LanceKates  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:30:46am

re: #23 Occasional Reader

So they Libyans really think Hamas is that bad, eh?

Oh, they weren't talking about Hamas. Who, you know, run Gaza.

They're the victims of the evil and mean jews who have special secret earthquake machines.

(it REALLY is what they think the Jews have...)

33 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:30:51am

It would have been better if Libya’s deputy ambassador had been kicked out instead.

34 johnnyreb  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:30:52am

I think that by my count 5 members walked out including Belgium and Costa Rica. A pretty strong statement I think. And I don't believe that any of these countries really care about the US election year footsie stuff.

Could this have been pre-arranged? I do know sometimes with agendas members sometimes get advance copies of speechs.

35 Sol Roth  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:30:55am

re: #1 buzzsawmonkey

Your buddy is back at the Nazi thread.

36 mph  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:31:41am

Would be nice to see this happening every day over at Turtle Bay.

37 coquimbojoe  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:31:44am

re: #31 loppyd

I think it's a good thing.

I hope it continues, but I won't hold my breath.

I agree 100%. I hope a spine is forming.....

38 stevieray  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:31:53am

re: #7 princetrumpet

Don't get me wrong... I agree with your sentiment, it would be strongly symbolic.

39 princetrumpet  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:32:44am

No worries... I need to pay attention to what I read!

40 GOP Goalie  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:32:49am

Membership in 2008

The Council is composed of five permanent members — China, France, Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States — and ten non-permament members (with year of term's end):

Belgium (2008) Indonesia (2008) South Africa (2008)
Burkina Faso (2009)
Italy (2008) Viet Nam (2009)
Costa Rica (2009) Libyan Arab Jamahiriya (2009)
Croatia (2009) Panama (2008)

(source: [Link: www.un.org...] ...ick, my keyboard feels dirty just going to that site...and I have this overwhelming urge to pass nonbinding resolutions...

41 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:32:56am

Technically, France was just pre-emptively surrendering.

42 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:33:02am

re: #30 princetrumpet

Sorry, I was wrong.

The beating will commence when everyone gets back from lunch.

43 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:34:21am

Hopefully they will do the same when Richard Falk speaks at the UN in the near future...afterall, he's made the same type of comments.

44 princetrumpet  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:34:32am

At least the French know how to use a whip.

45 coquimbojoe  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:34:35am

re: #41 Noam Sayin'

Technically, France was just pre-emptively surrendering.

Show some love!

46 Just Another Four-letter Word  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:34:47am

re: #21 Shug

alternate explanation :

maybe they needed to run out and put some more money in their parking meters

/

What makes you think they would plug parking meters when they don't even acknowledge parking tickets?

JAFLW

47 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:34:50am

Libya calls the situation in Gaza "genocide".
This must be the first "genocide" in history when the target population is increasing.

48 VegasRick  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:35:02am

re: #35 Sol Roth

Your buddy is back at the Nazi thread.

Is that the a**hole from yesterday?

49 ROP?LOL  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:35:08am

When we walk out for good, then I'll get excited.

50 bosforus  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:35:17am

Joking aside, I'm proud of them for doing it. Even if it's been a long time coming.

51 GOP Goalie  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:35:39am

re: #41 Noam Sayin'

dunno, could have been one the infamous Gallic one-hour labor strikes...

52 loppyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:35:55am

re: #47 Kosh's Shadow

Libya calls the situation in Gaza "genocide".
This must be the first "genocide" in history when the target population is increasing.

Excellent point!

53 VegasRick  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:36:35am

re: #47 Kosh's Shadow

Libya calls the situation in Gaza "genocide".
This must be the first "genocide" in history when the target population is increasing.

The population is exploding.

54 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:36:48am

Gaza - Auschwitz on the Dole with HDTV's - Now that's more like it.

-S-

55 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:36:49am

re: #48 VegasRick

Is that the a**hole from yesterday?

Which one?

56 debutaunt  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:36:58am

re: #30 princetrumpet

Sorry, I was wrong.

Miles?

57 princetrumpet  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:37:04am

They blow up so quickly.

58 Just Another Four-letter Word  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:37:05am

re: #49 ROP?LOL

When we walk kick them out for good, then I'll get excited.

Fixed!

JAFLW

59 loppyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:37:34am

re: #54 Dr. Shalit

Gaza - Auschwitz on the Dole with HDTV's - Now that's more like it.

-S-

And Marlboros and motorcycles for all!

60 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:37:43am
Gee. If only all these stiff necked, bothersome and relentless followers of the GOD of Israel would agree to lay down under all these nice buses, we wouldn't have to worry about any of this crap anymore.

NEVER
AGAIN
MFers

61 pegcity  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:38:03am

Um isn't that called a thursday at the UN?

So fool me once shame on you, fool me 4987 times shame on me.

62 VegasRick  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:38:03am

re: #55 MandyManners

Which one?

That's right, there was more than one.

63 Just Another Four-letter Word  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:38:22am

re: #59 loppyd

And Marlboros and motorcycles for all!

re: #59 loppyd

And Marlboros and motorcycles for all!

They'd have SUV's, but there's no place to park 'em...

JAFLW

64 so.cal.swede  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:38:26am

Nice, Charles. I love your wording: "a typically disgusting statement"

65 loppyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:38:27am

re: #62 VegasRick

That's right, there was more than one.

so many a**holes, so little time....

66 RickZ  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:38:34am

re: #40 GOP Goalie

When I looked up that list, my first thought was that there are some 'members' on the Council from whom we need security, not with whom we should provide security. Upside-down just doesn't begin to give the UN its 'wild and crazy' due.

67 alegrias  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:38:46am

It would be good to congratulate these countries~someone run & sign their embassy guestbooks appreciatively.
Hip Hip Hooray
Vive la France
USA! USA!
Vive le Belgium (& how you say in flemish?)
Viva Costa Rica

68 loppyd  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:38:54am

BBIAB

Got to witness a will.

69 coquimbojoe  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:38:59am

re: #48 VegasRick

Is that the a**hole from yesterday?

Who?

70 VegasRick  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:39:27am

re: #69 coquimbojoe

Who?

There were a few.

71 Just Another Four-letter Word  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:39:27am

#63:

Sorry about the double quote.

Sorry about the double quote.

JAFLW :)

72 LanceKates  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:39:33am

re: #58 Just Another Four-letter Word

Fixed!

JAFLW

Deport them all and turn the UN building into apartments.

73 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:39:39am

re: #46 Just Another Four-letter Word

What makes you think they would plug parking meters when they don't even acknowledge parking tickets?

JAFLW

Please see the

/

74 E tan e epi tan  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:39:40am

Well.....it's a valid analogy IF the inmates of the concentration camps were well fed and living in highrises and IF they were shooting rockets at surrounding German communities.

75 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:40:01am

re: #4 Sharmuta

Walk out and keep going. Don't look back, and don't send money.

Give them 30 days to leave the building.

76 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:40:16am

re: #75 Ward Cleaver

Give them 30 days to leave the building.

Then implode it.

77 GOP Goalie  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:40:20am

re: #58 Just Another Four-letter Word

Fixed!

JAFLW

Available! Prime NYC Real Estate! Current Occupants Must Go! Priced to sell! (small print: buyer assumes delousing costs, expected to be astronomical...)

78 Andopolis  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:40:23am
Dilomats from the United States, Britain and France have walked out of a U.N. Security Council meeting after Libya compared the situation in Gaza to Nazi concentration camps.

I don't understand why they walked out... it was horrible how the Germans had to withstand all of those rocket attacks coming out of Bergen-Belsen, Dachau and Buchenwald.

79 crown_of_feathers  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:40:26am

Interesting how the Islamonazi nations play both sides of this: There was NEVER any Holocaust, and the Jews are perpetrating a Holocaust worse than the one that was perpetrated on them.

If Oxygen were Truth, the Muslims would have been aspyxiated 1400 years ago.

80 VegasRick  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:40:37am

re: #75 Ward Cleaver

Give them 30 days seconds to leave the building.

/had to.

81 wolfie  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:40:45am

re: #40 GOP Goalie

Thanks for the list, Goalie.

It might have been nice if Italy had walked too.
But I suppose we should be grateful that anyone other than the US did.

82 LanceKates  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:40:47am

re: #74 E tan e epi tan

and if the Israelis actually were trying to destroy the pallies.

83 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:40:50am

re: #63 Just Another Four-letter Word

They'd have SUV's, but there's no place to park 'em...

JAFLW

The SUVs are needed for car bombs and for terrorist transports; it's hard to carry Kassam launchers in a motorcycle.

84 pegcity  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:41:05am

That's all the UN is "statements"

Screw the UN and their useless nonbinding statements

85 Pastorius  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:41:25am

Why walk out now?

Wouldn't it be interesting if we had finally decided to stand against the anti-Semitism of these pro-Palestinians types at the UN, because we figured out that the Jihad against the Jews is no different than the Jihad against us?

The fact that all three stood up and walked out would indicate some sort of coordination, wouldn't it?

86 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:41:48am

re: #72 LanceKates

Deport them all and turn the UN building into apartments.

Or offices for CAIR and the ACLU.

87 LanceKates  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:41:51am

re: #84 pegcity

That's all the UN is "statements"

Screw the UN and their useless nonbinding statements

a group as useless as the UN is incapable of doing anything that IS binding...

88 Shug  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:42:00am

Sternly worded letters of condemnation

bad ass powder blue hats

walkouts


The UN is indeed powerful

89 wolfie  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:42:03am

re: #53 VegasRick

The population is exploding.

Sure. But usually they do it in Israel.

90 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:42:20am

re: #85 Pastorius

It would be more than interesting
it would prove the existence of miracles

lol

91 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:42:26am
92 Just Another Four-letter Word  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:43:10am

re: #80 VegasRick

re: #75 Ward Cleaver

Give them 30 days seconds to leave the building.

/had to.

Maybe I'm too generous - I woulda given 'em 30 minutes.

JAFLW

/Getting soft in my old age.

93 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:43:14am

re: #65 loppyd

so many a**holes, so little time....

Proctology!

94 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:43:47am

re: #93 MandyManners

One need not be a proctologist to spot an asshole

95 mean Gene  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:43:55am

Here's an interesting version of events:
Some members of the United Nations Security Council on Wednesday walked out of informal consultations on the humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip after Libya’s UN ambassador Ibrahim al-Dabbashi compared Gaza to Nazi concentration camps, Zaheer Laher, the spokesperson to South Africa’s UN ambassador, told me following consultations.

Axel Cruau, the spokesperson to France’s UN ambassador Jean-Maurice Ripert, told me his expert saw Ripert throw down his earpiece after Libya made the comparison. Then, the ambassadors from France, the United Kingdom, Belgium, Croatia, Costa Rica, and the United States walked out in protest.

[Link: www.arabisto.com...]

96 alegrias  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:44:25am

Someone yesterday wrote a fantastic post comparing and contrasting our lalndmark 1964 Civil Right Act and Moses Leading His People out of Egypt, and how these have been subverted by islamists to defend the indefensible.

Libya is twisting history to suit the Caliphate.

97 pegcity  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:45:13am

re: #87 LanceKates

they are the perfect liberal organisation.

All words, no action.

They can sit around with their commitees and sub committes and pretend like they are saving the world, go home boast about saving the world, then when it turns out the next year putting all the worlds food into our oil is a bad idea turn around and blame America.

The UN is a liberals wet dream, no accountability and all fluff.

Its a preview of an Obama administration,

98 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:45:56am
informal consultations on the humanitarian situation

From Mean Gene's piece
informal consultations
IOW

it's another show for our benefit.

It actuality, it MEANS zero.

99 Spiritualized  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:45:57am

Instead of walking out, someone should stand up and shout down the Mohammedan liars. And they can start with this quote:


"The [Palestinian] Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan... He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chambers of Auschwitz." - Dieter Wisliceny, Eichmann's Deputy
100 BabbaZee  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:46:06am

In

101 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:46:14am
102 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:46:23am

I'm sorry, but I have to concentrate while I eat my waffle.

The UN has been useless for years. Its "peacekeepers" either run or rape or both. The resolutions it passes are useless even when we sponsor them, they will not be observed. All it has become is a pulpit for assholes. In that function, it gives the bozos of this world a degree of credibility. We would be better off without it.

103 Sol Roth  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:48:28am

re: #48 VegasRick

Yep.

104 wolfie  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:48:37am

re: #95 mean Gene

Croatia. That is good news indeed.
I am thinking of their history....the WWII era.
They are intent on joining the civilized world now, perhaps.
Good news.

Where was Italy?

105 LanceKates  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:48:53am

re: #97 pegcity

they are the perfect liberal organisation.

All words, no action.

They can sit around with their commitees and sub committes and pretend like they are saving the world, go home boast about saving the world, then when it turns out the next year putting all the worlds food into our oil is a bad idea turn around and blame America.

The UN is a liberals wet dream, no accountability and all fluff.

Its a preview of an Obama administration,


Don't forget the royalty treatment, immunity from legal accountability, and all the white tablecloth dinners....

106 McJenny50  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:49:04am

re: #7 princetrumpet

Germany doesn't have a member in the Security Council. Permanent members are: China, France, Russian Federation, UK, and US.

Non-permanent members right now are: Belgium, Indonesia, South Africa.
Burkina Faso, Italy, Viet Nam, Costa Rica, Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, Croatia, and Panama

107 Sacred Plants  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:49:24am

From the AP report:

Immediately after Dabbashi mentioned the concentration camps, diplomats said, French Ambassador Jean-Maurice Ripert, U.S. deputy ambassador Alejandro Wolff, Britain's deputy ambassador Karen Pierce, Belgian Ambassador Johan Verbeke and Costa Rica's deputy ambassador walked out of the council's consultation room.

South Africa's U.N. Ambassador Dumisani Kumalo, the current council president, then ended the meeting.

A firstie for Sarkozy? Really?

108 itellu3times  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:49:29am

re: #7 princetrumpet

Well, what IS significant is France walking out with us and the UK. It would have been a stronger statement had Germany done so as well. The German contingent are probably kicking themselves that they didn't by now.

Germany not currently on council.

China and Russia did not walk out? Well, I suppose it was moot at that point.

109 adragonknowsbest  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:51:30am

re: #108 itellu3times


"China and Russia did not walk out? Well, I suppose it was moot at that point."

You know Gog and Magog gotta stick together...

110 stevieray  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:53:07am

re: #96 alegrias

Libya is twisting history to suit the Caliphate.

Islam twists humanity to suit the Caliphate.

111 pegcity  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:56:07am

re: #110 stevieray

the tail that wags the dog

112 jamgarr  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 9:57:35am

Dilomats

/close . . . close

113 madisonsfriend  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 10:02:09am

The un (yes, I meant to keep it lowercase) is totally useless. Of course, beyond that remark being disgusting- after WWII- 6 million of my people were gone while in Gaza, the population continues to increase, infant mortality is down and health care is better for the general populace than in much of the Arab world. Of course, truth is never the policy of UN delegates especially those from Muslim countries and their lackies.

114 Lively  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 10:07:49am
115 chinesearithmetic  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 10:10:32am
Told ya once we got rid of Bolton ... everyone would like us again?
116 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 10:14:29am
117 Karridine  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 10:28:15am
UNITED NATIONS - Dilomats from the United States, Britain and France have walked out of a U.N. Security Council meeting after Libya compared the situation in Gaza to Nazi concentration camps.


Did they mean Dildomats or Diplomats? Dilomats would mean People Who Dilate...

118 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 10:36:37am

re: #86 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Or offices for CAIR and the ACLU.

Aren't they already?

/ouch!

119 itellu3times  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 10:39:11am

What's funny is not Carter, but the entire MSM seeing something new. WSJ did a very careful article yesterday trying to work around Carter's idiocy, but they still claimed to see something new. Wrongo.

120 itellu3times  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 10:39:45am

oops wrong thread ...

121 Spiny Norman  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 10:54:19am

re: #23 Occasional Reader

So they Libyans really think Hamas is that bad, eh?

Oh, they weren't talking about Hamas. Who, you know, run Gaza.

Yep, the comparison is actually valid if the Libyan ambassador was comparing Hamas to the Nazis.

Wha... ? Are y'all tellin' me he wasn't?

122 Kefirah  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 10:57:09am

re: #16 lawhawk

israel has been permanently excluded from a seat?

can i see a cite so that i have something concrete to which to anchor my frustration?

123 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 10:59:19am
124 Kefirah  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 11:01:38am

re: #123 ploome hineni

i agree. doesn't this count as a hangar-opening moment?

125 Pope Insouciance IV  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 11:06:31am

It is a well known historical fact that concentration camp prisoners would often dynamite the walls holding them in, so they could race into the nearest town, buy flat screen TVs, Pepsi Cola, and more explosives, then return to the camp.

/I think I read it on one of them sites that Charles mentions every so often.

126 Spiny Norman  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 11:07:23am

re: #122 Kefirah

israel has been permanently excluded from a seat?

can i see a cite so that i have something concrete to which to anchor my frustration?

Effectively, yes. The rotating members of the SC are drawn by geographic region: Israel is part of the MidEast region, but the Arab/Muslim countries do not even recognize their sovereignty, let alone allow them to join their Region. The Europeans won't let them be part of the European region because, well, Israel is not geographically, a "European" country.

Linky. Note this:

Originally, there were to be 6 such non-Permanent Members of the Security Council, for a total of 11 Council members altogether. In the very first election of Member-States to the Council by the UN General Assembly in the Fall of 1945 [to allow the then-new Security Council to begin its work the following January], 3 of the 6 were purposely chosen for only one year so that there would, from that point on, be 3 new non-Permanent Members of the Council elected annually. Although the UN Charter does not at all specifically require that non-Permanent Members of the Security Council be chosen based on regional considerations, in practice these 6 members of the Council in addition to the 5 Permanent Members came to be chosen according to the table immediately following this paragraph, though it should also be noted that the definitions of "region" insofar as this process was concerned were to prove rather flexible- as one would expect, come the delicate diplomatic "balancing act" engendered by the evolving Cold War- and quite changeable over time, as the membership in the United Nations increased- especially as more and more former colonial dependencies became independent and thereafter joined the UN (indeed, explanations as to particular problems which then ensued as a result of this regional methodology for filling seats on the Security Council will be found immediately following this table).

So, in reality, the only reason Israel is "permanently" excluded is because of a Cold War era "tradition" that is now used to placate the damned Arab Oil Ticks.

127 pegcity  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 11:32:18am

re: #126 Spiny Norman

Dismantle the UN, let Donald Trump turn it into Condoes.

128 anotherindyfilmguy  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 11:32:57am

Maybe they decided it was tee-time or tea time or early afternoon mistress break, you know like something actually important to their long term diplomatic careers...

129 samsgran1948  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 11:42:36am

Isn't Yad Hashoah right about this time of the year? Makes that remark even tackier than usual.

130 shai  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 11:45:37am

"Israel considers Hamas, an Islamic group committed to destruction of the Jewish state, a terrorist group."

LOL @ "Israel considers"

131 Bohdran  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:17:57pm

Ive been noticing increasing dissatisfaction by the West regarding UN policies ... Canada wont even involve itself in Darfur2 next year , also the protest by many of the West regarding the whole Human Rights and the banning of "islamophobia" that supposedly is rampant in West society. I am going to take this as good news , that finally the West IS beginning to understand that things need to change.

132 rorschach  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:41:42pm

How about we keep on walkin', boots?

No, No, NO! Not God bless the U.N. ...God DAMN the U.N.!

/ what's good for the goose...

133 Sabraguy  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:48:22pm

What do you expect from a country whose head of state is clinially insane?

134 Cold Rage  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 1:50:15pm

re: #22 maddogg

The right thing would have been to bust the fool in the mouth.

/wishful, I know...

I miss John Bolton. I really really miss the 'stache. We'd have had pages of right-wing cheers and left-wing hand-wringing news to read about his response. Of course, it makes me wonder if he has ambassador status, if he could get immunity from prosecution for verbally/physically bending the prick into a pretzel.

135 Terp Mole  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 2:41:50pm

Israel's UN Ambassador responds;

Israel's U.N. Ambassador Dan Gillerman on Thursday called Libya's comparison of Gaza to the Nazi camps "an outrage" and "a disgrace."

He said the Security Council "is practically paralyzed, totally irrelevant when it comes to the Middle East," mainly because Libya's "irresponsibility and cynicism exceeds even that of its predecessors who represented the Arab bloc before."

"Libya is a very pertinent example of what happens when you let terrorists infiltrate the Security Council," Gillerman told a luncheon briefing sponsored by The Israel Project.

That's right... not former terrorists... not rehabilitated terrorists... just terrorists.

/....and curse them that curse thee

136 wanumba  Thu, Apr 24, 2008 6:12:25pm

It would have been fun to have had the same group pause to shake everyone's hands first and then, as they went out the door, mentioned, "Check your penis lately?"

Would have given the Libyan delegation a fright for sure.

137 Sacred Plants  Fri, Apr 25, 2008 7:56:54am

Does this imply witchcraft would be above international law?

That might explain the impotence of Mohamed ElBaradei.

138 aengus  Fri, Apr 25, 2008 12:10:30pm
The German contingent are probably kicking themselves that they didn't by now.

Are Germany on the UN Security Council at the moment? They're not permanent members.

139 NFLFan  Fri, Apr 25, 2008 1:49:09pm

Don't just walk out of the meeting, tell the UN to get the hell out of America and move them to Baghdad. See how they like it there!


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