The memo has gone out: You can't criticie the Obamessiah, otherwise you're racist.

That's sure to win us over.

He actually thinks he can win on policy and experience alone.

McCaine is fine with the ad. He just doesn't want the Dems to be able to associate it with him. But they will anyway.

I'm glad they beeped him.

You gotta know when to hold them, know when to fold them, and most important when shut your run away trap!

McCain is acting like a Wright Winger

Does McCain actually want to win the election?

I am not insane, most Excellent Festus!

There are at least 80% of the democrat voters that will vote for bho because they are inflicted with tunnelvision and mental hardships, but there's still a chance that McCain can lure some over to his side if he opens their eyes on the national stage to what this lunatic has actually done and associated himself with in the past.

Why can't he see that?

This is why McCain is going to get crushed in debates (especially against Obama). He refuses to attack his opponent and is going to look weak, frail and dull next to Obama on stage.

So far McCain has been way too much of a Mr Nice Guy. I can see it as part of a strategy though. He can stay a clean as he wants while Hill and BHO sling crap at one another. Meanwhile, he builds his image as a moderate guy and downplays his reported mean streak.

All that said, kicking a man when he is down is the best time. He's that much closer to your foot.

it's too early for the republicans to be running that ad. it's hillary's time.

but, should McCain still not want to run it come the general election, i can only conclude he doesn't want to win.

Does McCain actually want to win the election?

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

re: #15 Bubblehead II

Does McCain actually want to win the election?

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Approaching victory, then banking left.

The Evils of Three Lessers

re: #11 Killgore Trout

This is why McCain is going to get crushed in debates (especially against Obama). He refuses to attack his opponent and is going to look weak, frail and dull next to Obama on stage.

I thought that as well, but seeing how atrocious bho is without the teleprompter, I have faith that he'll step on his d!ck MORE than once in the debates.

I wouldn't count McCain out yet

this way McCain gets to take the high ground while disavowing a local ad that has nothing to do with his campaign anyway... and knowing it will run anyway

any way you look at it McCain wins

Settle down folks. This is only the beginning.

Wait till McCain discovers OBM video with a baby goat, in a seedy motel room with his undies on his head.

He'll use it. Count on it. As his should.

re: #14 song_and_dance_man

A less dynamic version of Bob Dole.

GWBush distanced himself from the SBVFT ads too, but they still helped him.
I think this is the right way to go.
McCain is letting others (527's?) do his dirty work for him.
He can't really stop it, but he can (and he probably should) occasionally voice his disapproval.
Surely there are a few NC Republicans who "get'' this, aren't there?

Good for them. The higher ups in the RNC should be worried- many of us are mad as hell and we're not likely to take it for very long.

Your average schmuck on the street thinks Irreverent Wright "criticized American policy". Most voter have never seen or heard this garbage spewed out from his "church" that worships melanin. Please broadcast the hell out of this! The RNC needs to grow some balls and learn something from the grass roots.

I think the nominee has the right to set the tone, and I think it's a right he's earned.

re: #21 Persian Shoe

As he should.

Fixed that

"Does McCain actually want to win the election?"

Maybe McCain is a Real Conservative after all! (and he wants McCain to lose.)

re: #20 sultan_knish

I wouldn't count McCain out yet

this way McCain gets to take the high ground while disavowing a local ad that has nothing to do with his campaign anyway... and knowing it will run anyway

any way you look at it McCain wins

Agreed. Not the way I would play it, but still a valid approach.

Your average schmuck on the street thinks

Did you leave your brain in San Francisco?

Naw Naw Naw! Gaw Dayum America!
--Rev. Wright

[Link: npc.press.org...]

Event Name: Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright
Event Date: Apr. 28, 2008
Event Type: NPC Breakfast
Time: 8:30 AM
Sponsored by: Speakers Committee
Event Location: Ballroom
Details: The Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., senior pastor of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, will discuss the role of faith in the public square in a presentation entitled, The African American Religious Experience; Theology &Practice, at a National Press Club breakfast on April 28th.
Dr. Wright will also talk about his pastorate, his development as a theologian and teacher, and the how the issues of social justice and global inequities have shaped his faith and his fight for those who are most marginalized in society. He will address the legacy and tradition of education in his family. And Dr. Wright will put into perspective theologically, historically and politically, his ministry and public service that has been so widely discussed in the media.
Dr. Wright will retire from Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago in June, where he served the 8,000-member congregation for 36 years. While at Trinity he developed nearly 100 active ministries/outreach programs and seven separate corporations that continue to serve the greater Chicago community. He is a sought after lecturer and teacher and speaks at some of the nation's most prestigious universities and seminaries.

The National Press Club breakfast will begin promptly at 8:30 a.m. The National Press Club is located at 14th and F Streets, NW, one block west of Metro Center. More information about the Club and its programs is found on its Internet website: press.org.

THIS EVENT IS SOLD OUT.

CREDENTIALED MEDIA MAY COVER WITH PROPER ID.

re: #32 BabbaZee

AAAIIIYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

I want to line up behind the folks who think McCain privately agrees with the NC folks. This may be his way of staying out of the mud.

The link in the post takes me to a 404 Not Found.

I agree with McCain, stay away from the nastiness, let the DEMS be nasty.
The sensible mature people recognize competence, and polish especially when in the presence of the vulgar imitations of statesmen that the DEMS are forcing on us as their nominees.

re: #33 MandyManners

Maybe Cognito will go for us.

LOL!

re: #38 song_and_dance_man

I think it's about time to post Red Rider's Lunatic Fringe.

Great tune....that's one that I won't mind having stuck in my head all day, now.........

re: #38 song_and_dance_man

I think it's about time to post Red Rider's Lunatic Fringe.

re: #39 BabbaZee

Now that is comedy!

re: #31 buzzsawmonkey

Naw Naw Naw! Gaw Dayum America!
--Rev. Wright

.....Least Excellent Infestus

Wright is going to be interviewed by that dope Bill Moyers. That ought to be interesting.

re: #28 Lawrence Schmerel

There is that dichotomy!

re: #42 bushleague

I'm a funny chick

LOL

re: #41 BabbaZee

I was thinking Twilight Zone

McLame is too silly not to push for these stuff. He'll regret being PC if he loses the election.

I think this ad would be better timed in the generals. While I can see that the ad is targeted at getting Clinton nominated... for the GOP, I'd tell them to be careful what they wish for....

re: #4 maddogg

McCaine is fine with the ad. He just doesn't want the Dems to be able to associate it with him. But they will anyway.

I agree 100%. He can come right back at them and say he condemned it before it even aired. Actually pretty sound strategy I think.

re: #39 BabbaZee

Maybe Cognito will go for us.

LOL!

I was thinking something along those lines but, it wasn't as nice.

re: #39 BabbaZee

/Well he IS in an highly (unspecified) posistion in a major (unspecified) media outlet.

This is getting fun.
How about some theme music.
With apologies to Sweet.

Clinton Blitz

Are you ready, Howard? Aha.
Nancy? Yeah! Chuck? OK.
Alright, fellas, let's go!

Oh it's been getting so hard
Campaigning with the things you do to me, aha
My dreams are getting so strange
I'd see Senators Barack and Hillary
I see a man named Barack
As a matter of fact his ego is as big as the sun
And a girl in the corner lets no one ignore her
'Cause she thinks she's the electable one

Oh, yeah, it was like lightning, everybody was frightening
And the Dems were all seething, and they all started grieving

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
And the man named Barack said
Everyone attack and it turned into a Clinton blitz
And the girl in the corner said
Boy, I wanna warn ya, it'll turn into a Clinton blitz
Clinton blitz
Clinton blitz
Clinton blitz
Clinton blitz

They're reaching out for something
She hasn't got the delegates she needs
He softly says she's no good
She claims that he is just to young to lead, aha
Now the man named Barack
Is ready to crack as he raises his hands to the sky
And the girl in the corner is New York's Senator
She could beat him with a wink of her eye

Oh yeah, it was electric, so frightfully hectic
With the delegates voting, so those two would stop posing

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
And the man named Barack said
Everyone attack and it turned into a Clinton blitz
And the girl in the corner said
Boy, I wanna warn ya, it'll turn into a Clinton blitz
Clinton blitz
Clinton blitz
Clinton blitz
Clinton blitz

Oh, yeah, it was like lightning, everybody was fighting
And the Dems were all seething, and they all started leaving

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
And the man named Barack said
Everyone attack and it turned into a Clinton blitz
And the girl in the corner said
Boy, I wanna warn ya, it'll turn into a Clinton blitz
Clinton blitz
Clinton blitz
Clinton blitz
Clinton blitz

It's it's a Clinton blitz
It's it's a Clinton blitz
It's it's a Clinton blitz
Yeah, it's a Clinton blitz

McCain can't compete with Obamas money and Soros hate campaign . He wants to take the high road so he will have a moral defense against the smears that are coming . It's all he can do.

Somehow McCain is convinced that Americans do not want any attack ad’s period.

I see a good tactic here, we run attack ad’s and McCain pretends not to like them for the cameras.

Babba: the words to "Oh, Why Can't I Just Eat My Waffle" are posted on the previous thread.

re: #47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Highly appropriate too

re: #54 livetotell

McCain can't compete with Obamas money and Soros hate campaign . He wants to take the high road so he will have a moral defense against the smears that are coming . It's all he can do.

Won't matter.

Even if Obama and Soros weren't engaging in a hate campaign against him, he'd have the MSM dragging up crap like the recent LA Times story saying that he isn't fit for the Presidency because he's drawing a disabled vet pension.

re: #57 buzzsawmonkey

thanks

re: #52 Bubblehead II

/Well he IS in an highly (unspecified) posistion in a major (unspecified) media outlet.

And, he has hung out with terrorists so, he'll be in good company with Jeremiah.

re: #30 chinesearithmetic

Your average schmuck on the street thinks

Did you leave your brain in San Francisco?

Ouch... You are correct! What the heck was I thinking?

re: #24 Sharmuta

Good for them. The higher ups in the RNC should be worried- many of us are mad as hell and we're not likely to take it for very long.

At some point, I can only hope, the RNC will learn that the only thing that you find when you run to the middle of the road, is that the traffic from both sides are now trying to run you down.

re: #47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I was thinking Twilight Zone

Not Aldo Nova's Fantasy ?

American history is full of examples of nuanced campaign strategies that failed utterly.

re: #53 CyanSnowHawk

Very nice work indeed!

re: #64 Creeping Eruption

Holy flashback batman

re: #54 livetotell

McCain can't compete with Obamas money and Soros hate campaign . He wants to take the high road so he will have a moral defense against the smears that are coming . It's all he can do.

Money.
That's going to be a big problem for McCain.
A problem partly of his own making (McCain-Feingold.)
But there's no joy in the "I told you so."

Walk right side road, OK
Walk left side road, OK
Walk middle?
SQUISH, just like grape.
~ Mr. Myagi

re: #64 Creeping Eruption

Not

re: #65 Charles

American history is full of examples of nuanced campaign strategies that failed utterly.

That's why the old fool has to play smashmouth politics. Hillary will hand his ass to him if he doesn't.

The RNC had better show the dirt on Obama and Clinton

Otherwise I'm voting for Sasquatch.

re: #65 Charles

American history is full of examples of nuanced campaign strategies that failed utterly.

and on both sides of the aisle.

Many in Oklahoma suggest that Democrat Dolt Governor Brad Henry is chiefly the governor because his Republican rival ran a clean campaign against Henry.

re: #70 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Need to get me a leopard skin suit like that.

Have one.

re: #63 Syrah

Why vote for a republican acting like a democrat when you can elect the real thing?

re: #67 BabbaZee

Holy flashback batman

Well, as soon as I saw "Lunatic Fringe" and "Twilight Zone" a door to my past opened, and I had to share.

re: #70 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Need to get me a leopard skin suit like that.

Yet another tune that I'm not upset to have stuck in my head.

re: #70 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Need to get me a leopard skin suit like that.

Can't forget the boots

re: #17 BabbaZee

The Evils of Three Lessers

Babba - what an appropriate comment number.

The schlubs that Dare Not speak His name !

re: #74 coquimbojoe

Have one.

WHY?

re: #71 coquimbojoe

That's why the old fool has to play smashmouth politics. Hillary will hand his ass to him if he doesn't.

Politics is smashmouth. If you're not playing that game you're not playing.

Opiates

Leon Wieseltier

Last week was a good week for Herbert Marcuse. Bob Dylan won a Pulitzer Prize and Karl Marx was published on the op-ed page of The New York Times, and in German.

In America, revolution is a career move.

Marcuse thought this was the bad news, but it is the good news. In any event, it is springtime for repressive tolerance. The plan is working. There, on page A27, right above the Microsoft advertorial, were the surprising words: "Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes." Even more surprisingly, they were rained upon the heads of the paper's breakfasting readers by William Kristol, who graciously provided a translation from an old college paperback: "Religion ... is the opium of the people,"
learnedly adding that "Marx somehow always sounds better" in the original.

No, the English is pretty exact, and the German is not quite poetry. And over on the other side of the page, there was Kautsky, in Bob Herbert's unexpected column on Die Agrarfrage: Eine Uebersicht uber die Tendenzen der modernen Landwirthschaft und die Agrarpolitik der Sozialdemokratie.

I'm kidding, I'm kidding. But not about Kristol's Marx, who was resurrected to establish the culpability of Barack Obama.

[SNIP]

The Hopium of the Asses.

I gotta say I agree with the RNC. That has gotta be one of the weakest attack ads I've ever seen. The Wright clip they chose is one of the tamest, they censored the word "damn", and the condemnation of it is... less than scathing ("too extreme"?).

Besides which, it's an ad for the state governorship, which is really only tangentially related to Obama anyhow. The NCGOP, intentionally or not, is weakening McCain's presidential campaign - the voting public has a short memory and the elections are still a long ways off.

the donk 527's will do this shit and more, we have to respond in kind what ever the canidate does. IT IS OUR COUNTRY TOO!

re: #74 coquimbojoe

Have one.

Do you wear it with the Carmen Miranda hat?

Charles, this is just a bit of "Brer Rabbit" politics. McCain is doing the right thing and allowing others to show Obama doing the Wright thing which they would do regardless of what McCain says about it. The MSM would be all over McCain if he did not do the ethical thing.

Another one; Life during wartime

re: #79 Temujin

Ha! [REDACTED]

Where have you been hiding, on the steppes?

I have read here and there at McCain does not want to directly go after Obama because it lends support to the idea that he is the frontrunner. I expect that when the actual nominee emerges from the current celebrity death match, McCain will attack him or her with gusto.

Having said that, we all know that any criticism of Wright will be seen by the libs as "racist" or "attacking the clergy". We will all be called "racist", which concerns me no in the least. I am already wearing my "Typical White Person" shirt while shopping in Berkeley so I can enjoy the outrage it generates.

Wright and Ayers and examples of Obama's serious lack of the character responsible people want in a candidate. I am personally grossly offended that he assumes that I need "healing" or that I must recognize that we have a problem in this country regarding race.

Sorry, I don't have a problem with race. Most Americans, of all ethnicities don't have a problem with race. A lot of blacks, however DO have a problem with race. They're going to have to get over it themselves without my participation. Sorry.

By the way, I just read online in the Chicago Sun Times that Wright is going to be the guest speaker at the National Press Club and he will also be in Bill Moyer's Journal this Friday.

Wright and Ayers: the gifts that keep on giving.

You see, this is the major defect with McCain. He loves to stick his thumbs in the eyes of his own base. I've had 20+ years of it. The man is a real piece of work, and it is a damn shame that I will have to hold my nose and vote for him.

re: #80 song_and_dance_man

Do you have the shoes to go with it?

Absolutely

re: #81 saberry0530

WHY?

Because my old pink summer unitard wore out.

re: #90 scott in east bay

If McCain engages in ANY negativity in the runnings, there will be complaints that he is being negative despite his Election Financing Reform.

(No, it doesn't make sense, but look for it nonetheless)

re: #88 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Another one; Life during wartime

Right back at you: Berlin: Metro

Re: #20

You're exactly right sultan_knish.

EVERYTHING Sen. McCain says and does is very carefully inspected and weighed for the maximum political gain. He is taking the high road right now.

The Senator has been working at being elected President for a long time. He will make the low road turn if and when he needs to. But if enough people do it for him, he can stay high and dry all the way to the White House.

Obviously, Sen. McCain is not the ideal candidate for us true conservatives, but he is the right man for the Republicans at this point in time. He has my vote for sure.

In Center County PA two candidates for Congress spent mega bucks; up to ~1.2 million. The 1.2 million was beaten by 19k. the other for less then 19k.

John McCain: "I have here a campaign strategy which guarantees PC in our time."

re: #76 Creeping Eruption
[BLINK]

If McCain runs the Jack Kemp "how to run for VP by saying nothing bad about your opponent" playbook, he will end up a loser like Kemp and Bob Dole.

I think I understand what McCain is trying to do. I think he wants to win on his own merits rather than winning based on putting the other candidates down. But, I really don't agree with this strategy. Obama's associations with radicals is absolutely open for discussion and attack. These are the types of people that will have access to the White House and will be advising the administration should Barack win. The people have the right to have this brought front and center by the GOP. The media won't discuss this, so the somebody must. McCain should embrace this.

If mccain doesn't like it- the North Carolina republicans can always tell him they're just being mavericks.

re: #95 Creeping Eruption

Right back at you:

Possible scenarios:

1) McCain is "above the fray"

2) He's playing "Good cop, bad cop"

3) He's thinking he should let Obama get the nomination so this type of stuff can be used in the campaign.

I sure hope it's (3), suspect it's (1). Bob Dole sucked, don't want no repeat.

McCain: snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

(sigh)

re: #75 Sharmuta

Why vote for a republican acting like a democrat when you can elect the real thing?

Exactly.

That should be tattooed on the inside of the eyelids of every Republican candidate running for office.

re: #87 gymnast

ethical?

re: #93 coquimbojoe

AHHHHHHHHH, MY EYES!

/

re: #102 Dahveed

I think I understand what McCain is trying to do. I think he wants to win on his own merits rather than winning based on putting the other candidates down. But, I really don't agree with this strategy. Obama's associations with radicals is absolutely open for discussion and attack. These are the types of people that will have access to the White House and will be advising the administration should Barack win. The people have the right to have this brought front and center by the GOP. The media won't discuss this, so the somebody must. McCain should embrace this.

We've elected Bill Clinton, put Dems in the majority in Congress and the left is picking between Hillary and Obama...

Conservative Republicans have no choice but McCain....

When did 'ones own merit' come into play?

I think McCain might be smarter than we give him credit for. As Jim Geraghty points out at NRO, by condemning the ad, McCain has moved it out of NC and made it a national story. The youtube hits on it are growing rapidly.

I knew I was going to have to hold my nose when voting for McLame. Now I think I'm going to have to bring a barf bag in with me.

re: #102 Dahveed

These are the types of people that will have access to the White House and will be advising the administration should Barack win.

No kidding.

re: #109 saberry0530

AHHHHHHHHH, MY EYES!

/

You asked.

re: #104 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ram Jam "Black Betty"

Oooh, good one. And now for something completely different: Kraftwerk: The Model

re: #90 scott in east bay

Yes. That is a very good reason for McCain not to attack Obama or Hillary specifically right now. He should wait until he has a specific target before taking shots at it.
And he also needs to save money.
Now is not the time.........And we'll see what he does later.

McCain knows how to fight dirty and get away with it. Don't worry.

re: #103 Sharmuta

If mccain doesn't like it- the North Carolina republicans can always tell him they're just being mavericks.

Does McCain actually want to win the election?

Sometimes, when he realizes that doing so would really upset his Democrat friends, I suspect he might not.

re: #116 Creeping Eruption

Oooh, good one. And now for something completely different:

MPH
&
ETA

the only discernible differences
between R & D

today

Linda Daves is the Chairman of the NC Republican Party.

Republican chairwoman Linda Daves said she would not bow to pressure from the Republican National Committee and others to pull the ad.

The URL of the NC Republican Party Leaderhip page is:

[Link: www.ncgop.org...]

There is a link at the end of Ms. Dave's Profile to "e-mail Linda".

Just thought I'd mention all that ...

re: #99 BabbaZee

Hey Babba, I tried to respond to your email article this morning, and it bounced back in my face saying your email was down.

You notice any such problems lately?

By the way folks, be praying for our friend realwest today please. He's got a very important meeting with his doctors.