Is everyone chicken to post on this thread?

wow

re: #1 LoFlyer

:) Not me.

can you say Genesis....I know you can

//dumb frickin hill jack

The vast majority of Darfur activists were "white" Americans...

That's typical.

Zombies reports are cool though.lol

re: #4 savage_nation

not me. I got the zombietime hat tip, yessiree

Two hat tips, actually, one for each video!

Thanks!

Also thanks to rawmuse, who tried (and like me, failed) to post the same videos, which YouTube rejected at first. Only savage_nation could get them to work!

Photographers of the World Unite!

/just saying

Just another day in SF. Only one insult away from a riot at any given time.

re: #8 zombie

Two hat tips, actually, one for each video!

Thanks!

Also thanks to rawmuse, who tried (and like me, failed) to post the same videos, which YouTube rejected at first. Only savage_nation could get them to work!

Here's hoping they stay up a long while.

Thanks Zombie! We see through your efforts what goes down in SF demonstrations that are never shown on MSM. I have never seen a city more prepared to demonstrate at a drop of hat than San Francisco...

My own interaction with mainland Chinese has left me to conclude that the feelings for Chinese nationalism (not communism, but plain old nationalism) is very, very strong.

Whether it be about Tibet, Taiwan, Vietnam, or even the Falun Gong, my Chinese friends had only loathing (for the aboves' actions as seen as being anti-Chinese.)

So, where does this leave the World?

I'm only glad I live in a country where the different parties could protest peacefully...

OK Everyone -

Let's sort it out.

1. Taiwan is today a Democracy. Much like South Korea, it took some time.
By all standards in today's world (see Kossovo) Taiwan could indeed be "a nation," though their own position is that they are - "part of China."

2. Tibet has been "part of China" - more or less (generally less) for a lot of years. Re: TIBET - the Dali-Lama is ok with being "part of China."

Seems to me that the Taiwanese and the Tibetans just might be the most loyal CHINESE that exist. Discussion starts here.

-S-

So many groups!

Let a hundred nationalities bloom.

Note how in the sign depicted above, and in the report itself, the Uyghurs -- who use an Islamic crescent on a blue field as their flag -- are on the "good guys" side of folks protesting against the Communist regime.

This was the one controversial aspect of my original report: Favoring the political aspirations of a Muslim group over their communist oppressors!

Shades of the Taliban vs. the Russians in Afghanistan?

Is it a mistake to give the Uyghurs slack? Are they really the terrorists the Chinese claim they are?

Agghh! The real world is a difficult place!

This is one of those rare times that I can't understand "two sides" to this issue. Red China is a bunch of economic opportunists and militaristic thugs. While I get that there are protests of the torch (a lot of good that is doing...) who the hell do these "pro-china" people think they are? Do they know what type of regime they support.

Better yet, did anyone make sure that 14 747 jumbos didn't land at SF International that morning from Peking?

Thankyou Zombie For your pics. ! :)

Pictures of atrocities committed by China: Effective
Signs calling for freedom from Chinese oppression: Effective
Street Theater of brutality: Lame.Please make it illegal!

I do sympathize with Tibet, Burma and Taiwan.......(some day I'll tell you about my father hosting 6 Taiwanese fighter pilots on a visit to a BIG aeronautical factory).

Zombie, I watched live CNN coverage that day and it came nowhere near the level of coverage that you provided. Thanks again.

That's a pretty motley assortment there.

As soon as I heard the torch was coming to SF, my first thought was I bet there's gonna be a whole lot of photographic fodder for Zombie...

Lot of nightmare-inducing images coming out of China.

re: #16 zombie

Note how in the sign depicted above, and in the report itself, the Uyghurs -- who use an Islamic crescent on a blue field as their flag -- are on the "good guys" side of folks protesting against the Communist regime.

This was the one controversial aspect of my original report: Favoring the political aspirations of a Muslim group over their communist oppressors!

Shades of the Taliban vs. the Russians in Afghanistan?

Is it a mistake to give the Uyghurs slack? Are they really the terrorists the Chinese claim they are?

Agghh! The real world is a difficult place!

What is interesting about the Muslims in China is that they are the sole Muslims with woman Imams.

re: #13 freetoken

My own interaction with mainland Chinese has left me to conclude that the feelings for Chinese nationalism (not communism, but plain old nationalism) is very, very strong.

Whether it be about Tibet, Taiwan, Vietnam, or even the Falun Gong, my Chinese friends had only loathing (for the aboves' actions as seen as being anti-Chinese.)

So, where does this leave the World?

I'm only glad I live in a country where the different parties could protest peacefully...

"free' -

Trust me - the Anamese (a/k/a Vietnamese) DO NOT consider themselves Chinese by any stretch of the imagination.

-S-

re: #16 zombie

Is it a mistake to give the Uyghurs slack? Are they really the terrorists the Chinese claim they are?

I tend to cut them some slack. It would be interesting to learn more about their version of Islam but none of the usual anti-Jihad writers are very familiar with Uyghur culture. I wonder if someone like Robert Spencer would know something.

re: #24 NoSubmission

What is interesting about the Muslims in China is that they are the sole Muslims with woman Imams.

I hadn't hear that before. Interesting.

Thanks for the report, Zombie.
You're the best!

re: #17 brainwizard73

This is one of those rare times that I can't understand "two sides" to this issue. Red China is a bunch of economic opportunists and militaristic thugs. While I get that there are protests of the torch (a lot of good that is doing...) who the hell do these "pro-china" people think they are? Do they know what type of regime they support.

I originally planned to, but eventually decided not to, speculate as to the identities and motivations of the China supporters.

Most, from my personal observations, were ethnic Chinese who were fairly recent (post-1949) immigrants to the US who still have a HUGE feeling of nationalistic pride in them -- regardless of politics.

And most seemed to be thoroughly indoctrinated in the many lies and absurdities of the Maoist system, even though they fled to America.

This sign sums up my opinion of all that.

re: #26 Killgore Trout

"K-T" -

Re: the "Wiggers" - I give China some slack. Wonder why?

-S-

We are all very civilized here at LGF, but these demonstrations provide ample evidence that, sadly, they solve nothing. Tibet was not able to defend itself, nor the Plains Indians, nor (fill in the blank with your favorite lost cause). Mao was right, power flows from the barrel of a gun, not from bumper stickers. That is why I support the war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, the only real way to change anything is with force.

re: #27 savage_nation

They have been pretty isolated since the Cultural Revolution.

re: #31 Dr. Shalit

Why?

{ZOMBIE!}

WHEW,
R

Was this gender imbalance accidental? Or part of a strategy? Or do Tibetans only give birth to daughters?

Perhaps it's a concerted effort in protest of China's one male child program.

Good evening, Lizards! I'm posting via BLackBerry in the dark, power out for almost 4 hours now. DTE projects 11:30 EST for restoration. Poo!

Had to check in & get my LGF fix. Good night, all! Be kind to one another!

re: #38 Grammy Cracker

Good evening, Lizards! I'm posting via BLackBerry in the dark, power out for almost 4 hours now. DTE projects 11:30 EST for restoration. Poo!

Had to check in & get my LGF fix. Good night, all! Be kind to one another!

What a tease Grammy is.....

Great job, Zombie!

Good job, zombie.
Thanks.

I was at the Paris Olympic protests and I must say that this protest seems much more diverse, and protesters more numerous, however the Paris protests did get violent and I think the French police were a bit more quick to action than the SFPD.

re: #30 zombie

I originally planned to, but eventually decided not to, speculate as to the identities and motivations of the China supporters.

Most, from my personal observations, were ethnic Chinese who were fairly recent (post-1949) immigrants to the US who still have a HUGE feeling of nationalistic pride in them -- regardless of politics.

And most seemed to be thoroughly indoctrinated in the many lies and absurdities of the Maoist system, even though they fled to America.

This sign sums up my opinion of all that.

I just can't understand who would want to be the stooge that gets seen holding up the Red China flag at this type of event, especially if the holder is not a Chinese national. I have been to Chinatown serveral times in SF and I recall seeing a fair amount of red, but it is one thing to have it in a store on display, another to present the red banner at this type of protest.

When this type of protest is clearly about what 89% of the world knows is human rights abuses, supporting bad acts in Africa, and all around not working and playing nice with others, standing up with a red china banner isn't just nationalistic pride...it defends the regime.

Right? Or am I missing some thing as a "typical white person"?

Interesting....with their backs to us, I thought the members of whatever troupe that was at the official ceremony was a gaggle of Code Pinkos

re: #12 LoFlyer

You haven't been to Union Square in NYC then have you? Same spiel. Same people (or so it would seem). And same grievance theater.

Gotta bail, thanks for the conversation, keep the faith, Zombie!

re: #36 savage_nation

IIRC, they were an autonomous region during the cultural revolution and annexed shortly after. They have a lot of very old Buddhist statues (Like the big Bamiyana Buddhas) and lots of ancient mosques because they missed the whole purge and burn era. It's amazing how much of their own culture the Chinese destroyed.

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Why?

"K-T"

Simply because the Chinese Authorities are unsure of their loyalty TO CHINA vs. TO ISLAM. The "Wiggers" are generally ethnic HAN Chinese or close to it. Given the experience of Western Europe - can you blame them?

-S-

re: #32 rawmuse

We are all very civilized here at LGF, but these demonstrations provide ample evidence that, sadly, they solve nothing. Tibet was not able to defend itself, nor the Plains Indians, nor (fill in the blank with your favorite lost cause). Mao was right, power flows from the barrel of a gun, not from bumper stickers. That is why I support the war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, the only real way to change anything is with force.

Except under certain circumstances movements like Ghandi and MLK, did accomplish much good with a minimal amount of violence - but I think it was the implied threat of violence on their part that also played a roll. The ruling societies were also humbled into compliance through public shame.

Too bad slavery couldn't have been resolved that way - maybe it could have been with the right leader - but doubtful.

I still love your work Zombie!

Another great report. As Always.

The video capture pic of Mr. Old White Guy with the Another "Black Dude" for a Free Tibet on pg 2 got me. That is funny !

re: #26 Killgore Trout
Saw Robt Spencers interview at Hot Air. Had questions but needed to register at Ustream to chat. I hate chat, but registered late anyway. Maybe next time get some questions in re Uyghars and recent GoV postings.

re: #48 Dr. Shalit

I don't blame them for being paranoid. The Chinese are all so culturally different from each other I have a hard time imagining the country staying together after communism finishes failing. The don't even share a common language. I think it'll be like the break up of the soviet union.

re: #52 snowcrash

That's a good idea.

This is a short version of what I was going to post re: the China supporters:

The San Francisco Bay Area has one of the largest (if not the largest) population of ethnic Chinese outside of Asia. But the "community" is not cohesive and has many different groups who arrived at different times. The major divisions are these:

The largest group is also the oldest: Chinese who emigrated to the California during the Gold Rush, mainly during the 1850s and 1860s. They were almost entirely Cantonese speakers from southern China -- and some still speak Cantonese exclusively to this day. Nevertheless, they are very integrated into the American system, are very pro-US, and have very little sympathy for or affection for the communist regime.

The next group are pro-US Mandarin speakers who fled China after the 1949 revolution. Comparatively recent arrivals, but still very pro-US.

The final group are Chinese immigrants to the US who arrived here from mainland China post-1972: people who grew up under the Communist regime, speaking Mandarin, but who came here either on academic visas, of other legitimate reasons, or who snuck in illegally in cargo containers and so forth.

It is from this last category that I believe most of the pro-China protesters were drawn. Even though they were attracted to the money-making opportunities of the US, they still feel strongly that they are Chinese first, and their nationalistic fervor is extremely strong. They also still believe all the indoctrination they received back in China: Tibetans are primitive half-humans; Taiwan is a breakaway Chinese province; China is the supreme culture of the world and always has been, etc.

re: #43 brainwizard73

See my comment #55.

re: #49 DistantThunder

"D-T"

Beyond humbled, the more or less civilized communities of the US and UK were SHAMED into change by their own ideologies - as were the Israelis in 1993, recognizing the possibility of a "second zionism" in the land. The basis of racism is belied by the reality that no person can choose their parents. As to politics and religion, that is another matter. One potentially of "Free Choice."

-S-

re: #51 mikeinmd

Another great report. As Always.

The video capture pic of Mr. Old White Guy with the Another "Black Dude" for a Free Tibet on pg 2 got me. That is funny !

I'm still kicking myself that I didn't get a clear picture of him. I accidentally pressed the "video" button when I took that image, and never got a decent photo of what would have been a classic for the ages!

zombie

I'm looking through some of your old reports for mentions of China, and came across this interesting passage of yours:

As the presence of the statue implies, the majority of Chinatown residents -- being Cantonese speakers descended from 19th-century immigrants -- have little sympathy for the Mandarin-speaking centralized one-party Beijing government currently controlling mainland China. It is Double Ten Day -- commemorating the October 10th, 1911 uprising that led to the founding of the Republic of China, now considered Taiwan Independence Day -- that is celebrated in Chinatown, not the independence day of the People's Republic.

So when the organizers of San Francisco's Chinese New Year Parade recently banned the Falun Gong float from the parade, the accusations started to fly. And an uncomfortable little secret was finally brought to light: the San Francisco Chinese Chamber of Commerce receives funding -- and political dictates -- from the communist government in Beijing.

Excellent work Zombie! Thank you so much for your candidness and thoroughness.

Oh and...

G'd evenin' lizards! Happy weekend to all.

re: #27 savage_nation

There was a Canadian (born in China) Muslim (Mr.
Celil) who was an Uyghur. He went back to asia, start "inciting" (was he a radical Islamists preachin' against the Chinese authorities? don't know). anywho, he was arrested and is now in jail in China on charges of "terrorism." I think the Uyghurs are somewhat more isolated than other Muslim groups -- perhaps not as infected with radical strains of Islam as are some other groups (?) -- but, I think Islamism may also reach them eventually...(there have been reports of uprisings -- the Chinese rape the women, and do other things, it's claimed -- get stories of brutal Chinese crack-downs...the Communists don't like Muslim ethnic groups -- want to have them wiped out/blended into Chinese society...yet, don't really know sometimes who's telling the truth...)

So, you spilling the beans on how you got the YouTube video to upload?

re: #53 Killgore Trout

I don't blame them for being paranoid. The Chinese are all so culturally different from each other I have a hard time imagining the country staying together after communism finishes failing. The don't even share a common language. I think it'll be like the break up of the soviet union.

"K-T" -

At worst in your posit, China becomes an Asian Europe. Could well be a result the world can easlly live with.

-S-

Putting my 2 cents in.

The world never, ever changes. Humanity is always static. Oh, the times may change,but we are, always the same.

Humanity will always yearn for freedom.

It is part of our makeup. It is inbred. It is natural.

There will always be those who think that life and circumstances are unfair. There will always be those who reach for, and dream of utopia. Even if there is no such thing. For one cannot stomp down the animal in us all. The animal that yearns for freedom.

I cannot disagree wit the protestors, although I think that the Games aren't the platform to air ones grieveances on... but then I've never been desperate. I feel pity and anger toward those that seek to stomp freedom beneath their boots. Yet, I also know that this is merely human nature; nust as the yearning to be free is also human nature.

It is a long, unending path. A never ending struggle, this yearning for perfection; this desire to be Adam again.

Those of us who believe, believe that the yearning will be extinguished with the comming of the Savior again. There are those of us who believe that this is a never ending path.

Yet all paths have an ending.

I do not despair of current events. Life will go on beyond us.

I do, however, believe that right will triumph over wrong. Oh, beliefs willchange and humanity will be in uproar, but in the end right always wins.

re: #59 SeafoodGumbo

Yes, all of what I wrote back then remains true.

But I decided to not focus on that detail, as it might have bogged down the report and distracted from the focus on the Olympic Torch itself.

I forgot to mention my very personal Nazi connection:

One evening standing with my husband in front of the Presidio in San Francisco waiting for a viewing of the Clio awards in advertising, we chatted with an elderly couple from Connecticut. He was a retired economics professor from the University of Connecticut - and then he says to us: "I shook the hand of Adolph Hilter."

Now as a teenager, I read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich - out of curiosity. So I had to hear this story. He had been a Rhodes Scholar at Cambridge, and over a break in 1933 went to Germany with his friend. They wanted to hear Hitler speak, so they went to a speech he was giving in an auditorium. During the speech, several body guards approached them and said that Hitler had seen them from the stage and wanted to meet them. They looked at each other, and he said: "We were a little worried, but we said of course." After the speech, they waited and Hitler came over to them with a group of body guards and spoke with them. They used a translator. He wanted to know what the British people and papers were saying about him. So they gave him the best glossy version, not wanting to offend him. He invited them to come back and see him again - and then Adolph Hitler shook hands with each one. I was awestruck. He continued, and his voice broke a bit, "If I had known then what I know now, I would have shot him on the spot."

Can you imagine having that image with you almost your whole life? The experience of meeting Adolph Hitler?

That makes me two degrees of separation from Adoph Hitler.

Check out this previous report of zombie's on Li Zhensheng.

Li Zhensheng, I discovered, could be considered the original "zombie," a subversive citizen journalist who did essentially what I do now but forty years earlier and in much more dangerous circumstances. Li was a young reporter for a small newspaper in northern China when the Cultural Revolution broke out in 1966, and he found himself assigned to photograph the soul-wrenching events as they unfolded. At the time, Li was a follower of Mao and considered himself sympathetic to the stated goals of the Cultural Revolution -- but with each passing day a sense of unease grew in him as he witnessed the dissolution of Chinese society. Risking his career and possibly his life, he began to squirrel away the most disturbing and shocking of his negatives, eventually developing a huge archive of forbidden images.

re: #58 zombie

I'm still kicking myself that I didn't get a clear picture of him. I accidentally pressed the "video" button when I took that image, and never got a decent photo of what would have been IS a classic for the ages!

It may be a bit grainy, but I'm keeping it forever, LOL.

re: #65 DistantThunder

"D-T" -

I shook the hand of former President James Earl Carter. 'Nuff said.

-S-

re: #65 DistantThunder

Can you imagine having that image with you almost your whole life? The experience of meeting Adolph Hitler?

I shook Obama's hand about five seconds after taking this picture.

I'm hoping that one day I don't have the same feelings that British guy had.

re: #56 zombie

Sounds like a functional theory to me.

Interesting dichotomy, though, between economic opportunity and political orthodoxy.

re: #65 DistantThunder

I forgot to mention my very personal Nazi connection:

One evening standing with my husband in front of the Presidio in San Francisco waiting for a viewing of the Clio awards in advertising, we chatted with an elderly couple from Connecticut. He was a retired economics professor from the University of Connecticut - and then he says to us: "I shook the hand of Adolph Hilter."

Now as a teenager, I read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich - out of curiosity. So I had to hear this story. He had been a Rhodes Scholar at Cambridge, and over a break in 1933 went to Germany with his friend. They wanted to hear Hitler speak, so they went to a speech he was giving in an auditorium. During the speech, several body guards approached them and said that Hitler had seen them from the stage and wanted to meet them. They looked at each other, and he said: "We were a little worried, but we said of course." After the speech, they waited and Hitler came over to them with a group of body guards and spoke with them. They used a translator. He wanted to know what the British people and papers were saying about him. So they gave him the best glossy version, not wanting to offend him. He invited them to come back and see him again - and then Adolph Hitler shook hands with each one. I was awestruck. He continued, and his voice broke a bit, "If I had known then what I know now, I would have shot him on the spot."

Can you imagine having that image with you almost your whole life? The experience of meeting Adolph Hitler?

That makes me two degrees of separation from Adoph Hitler.

~shiver~
I cannot comprehend the evil...one of my partners..his mother survived the concentration camps. She goes around to schools and talks about her life there. SHe has shown me the brand the put on her. I admire her so. She is a dear, sweet woman who hates no one. I cannot imagine living through what she went through.

I admire and love her so.

re: #16 zombie

Note how in the sign depicted above, and in the report itself, the Uyghurs -- who use an Islamic crescent on a blue field as their flag -- are on the "good guys" side of folks protesting against the Communist regime.

This was the one controversial aspect of my original report: Favoring the political aspirations of a Muslim group over their communist oppressors!

Shades of the Taliban vs. the Russians in Afghanistan?

Is it a mistake to give the Uyghurs slack? Are they really the terrorists the Chinese claim they are?

Agghh! The real world is a difficult place!

Nah, give 'em slack. From what I know of the Uyghurs, they are very much "secular" muslims, if that is even possible. More related to the "stans" than China. The biggest issue for them is the discrimination they face from the Han Chinese, or the main people group of China.

The racism that exists in Asia is way more than what we face here - the darker you are in Asia, the more you are looked down upon. Learned that in Thailand, where road workers would wear ski hats and long sleeve shirts in order to not get any darker when shoveling asphalt in 100 degree weather with 80 percent humidity.

China revels in being the "central country", as its chinese characters denote it. Everything in Asia points back to them, they think.

#66 SeafoodGumbo
Check out this previous report of zombie's on Li Zhensheng.

Wow -- I totally forgot ever writing those words! Thanks for jogging my memory.

re: #69 zombie

You won't have those feelings becuase, if Obama were that evil, you would be dead or in a concentration camp for "re-education".

I have homeopathic Chinese healer (reflexology) that I use. She is a refugee from the Cultural revolution period, she is about 62 years of age, but has the radiant beauty of a much younger woman. She despises the Communists. She has been in the US since about 1971, but she lived in Hong Kong for a bit. She has been working on me for about 6 years. The heartbreaking stories I have heard in that time, if half of them are true, it is a terrible legacy.

Here he is pointing to the armband he wore as a "red-color news soldier" (a euphemism for "politically correct journalist") which gave him unprecedented access to some of the darker moments of the Cultural Revolution.

April National Geographic is entirely dedicated to China. Amy Tan wrote an amazing piece about a rural village which you can read on line.

Village on the Edge of Time

A remarkable, inspiring story about a resilient people. The photography is quite moving.

Beuller?

Beuller?

Beuller?

re: #36 savage_nation

I see. Maybe they were too far removed from the Maoist troops

Weren't they a part of China before the Long March?

(trep runs off to find historical info....)

re: #16 zombie

Note how in the sign depicted above, and in the report itself, the Uyghurs -- who use an Islamic crescent on a blue field as their flag -- are on the "good guys" side of folks protesting against the Communist regime.

This was the one controversial aspect of my original report: Favoring the political aspirations of a Muslim group over their communist oppressors!

Shades of the Taliban vs. the Russians in Afghanistan?

Is it a mistake to give the Uyghurs slack? Are they really the terrorists the Chinese claim they are?

Agghh! The real world is a difficult place!

Ahmed Shah Massoud and what eventually became the Nothern Alliance against the Soviets, maybe, but not the Taliban: they bravely sat out the war in Pakistani refugee camps. A lot like what Mao and the Chinese Communists did during the 1937-1945 unpleasantness...

re: #72 Intrepid

"'trep"

You are right about the racism of asia. Generous Japanese look at Koreans as their "Country Cousins." That said, China IS the "Center Kingdom" of Asia, for better or worse.

-S-

re: #81 savage_nation

Ah! I see. Thank you savage_nation for that link!

re: #82 Dr. Shalit

"'trep"

You are right about the racism of asia. Generous Japanese look at Koreans as their "Country Cousins." That said, China IS the "Center Kingdom" of Asia, for better or worse.

-S-

Yes sir, I've seen it and lived it. It was eye-opening to me, living in poor Thailand, that the "Chinese" Thais look down upon the "Thai" Thais. And the "Thai" Thais look down upon the "Issan" (northeastern) Thais, and the "Issan" Thais look down upon the Laotians and Khmers, etc......

And everyone in Thailand looks down upon Indians.

It apparently is in human nature to find someone we perceive to be inferior to ourselves so that we might look down upon them, in order to make ourselves feel superior.

A stark contrast to Jesus from Nazareth.

re: #86 Intrepid

"''trep"

As long as we are going down this line, think we can agree that "The Carpenter from Ha-Galil" got it right.

-S-

Seeing all those Red Chinese flags on the streets of an American city "gives me an uncomfortableness," to paraphrase Jayne Cobb.

/The Hero of Canton

re: #8 zombie

Two hat tips, actually, one for each video!

Thanks!

Also thanks to rawmuse, who tried (and like me, failed) to post the same videos, which YouTube rejected at first. Only savage_nation could get them to work!

Great work Zombie. Those pictures are very interesting.

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Kudos zombie. I think this is your most complete report ever. Took 10 minutes just to get through the first part.

re: #87 Dr. Shalit

"''trep"

As long as we are going down this line, think we can agree that "The Carpenter from Ha-Galil" got it right.

-S-

Don't know what "Ha-Galil" means. I'm talking about the one from Galilee, about 2000 years ago.

Which one are you thinking of?

re: #91 Intrepid

Don't know what "Ha-Galil" means. I'm talking about the one from Galilee, about 2000 years ago.

Which one are you thinking of?

same-same. Ha-galil is the northern Galilee area...

re: #92 paxnhymn

same-same. Ha-galil is the northern Galilee area...

So I show my ignorance, yet once again. But I'll admit ignorance, which is the first step of learning!

Thank you.

re: #93 Intrepid

So I show my ignorance, yet once again. But I'll admit ignorance, which is the first step of learning!

Thank you.

no problem..it's my love of the Jews...and one especially...that drives me to learn. Mrs. Pax is more evangelical than I am, but she'll tell you she's too scared to go to Israel, otherwise I'd have already made a trip.

Superior work, Zombie, showing more dedication (and runner's sweat) than so-called professionals.

re: #73 zombie

Wow -- I totally forgot ever writing those words! Thanks for jogging my memory.

You've documented so many protests, events, sit-ins, and hanging-naked-in-tree-gatherings, it isn't surprising it's hard to remember them all. ;)

Where the Hell do these people find the time to protest on the streets like this? I had to bust my ass all weekend to make a Monday deadline...

re: #97 Maximu§

Where the Hell do these people find the time to protest on the streets like this? I had to bust my ass all weekend to make a Monday deadline...

I would bet a paycheck that if a survey was done, over 75% of those at the protests (most any) would be liberal...they mostly don't have real jobs.

re: #94 paxnhymn

no problem..it's my love of the Jews...and one especially...that drives me to learn. Mrs. Pax is more evangelical than I am, but she'll tell you she's too scared to go to Israel, otherwise I'd have already made a trip.

So many Jews enthrall me - Moses, David, Isaiah (also Jeremiah, but he also depressed me), Elijah, Daniel (don't remember his Hebrew name), Judas Maccabeus, Jesus, John the Apostle, David Ben Gurion, Golda Meir.

All of them received strength and wisdom from the Almighty.

One, I believe was the almighty. In a human suit.

Yet it does not deter me from loving the others.

re: #99 Intrepid

So many Jews enthrall me - Moses, David, Isaiah (also Jeremiah, but he also depressed me), Elijah, Daniel (don't remember his Hebrew name), Judas Maccabeus, Jesus, John the Apostle, David Ben Gurion, Golda Meir.

All of them received strength and wisdom from the Almighty.

One, I believe was the almighty. In a human suit.

Yet it does not deter me from loving the others.

good on you. amen. amen.

nite all.

Speaking of "Democratic Taiwan".... what ever happened to the Formosans?

re: #102 profitsbeard

Speaking of "Democratic Taiwan".... what ever happened to the Formosans?

They are considered as "indigenous people" in Taiwan. When the Han Chinese came over in the late 40's, the ethnic Formosans were pretty much relegated to second class citizens.

There are quite a few tribal people groups there. There are fewer than 500 thousand. The Han Chinese pretty much took over the place and made it theirs.

re: #68 Dr. Shalit

re: #69 zombie

And obviously, you survived. So did I back in 5th grade!

Wow, Zombie. Excellent work as always. I've gotten about halfway through the photos, and I need to watch the videos.

Yes, the hypocrisy of the Chinese is stunning. Living here in the US, but pimping their evil empire back home. If I'd been there, I'd have been shouting, "F-ckin' Commies, go home!"

re: #16 zombie

This was the one controversial aspect of my original report: Favoring the political aspirations of a Muslim group over their communist oppressors!

Shades of the Taliban vs. the Russians in Afghanistan?

I don't see the controversy here. It's an established fact that Islamist groups favour democaracy all the time they aren't in power. After democratcy helps the Islamaniacs to the power, mainly with the help of Saudi/Iranian sposored "charity", democracy (and the bulk of human rights and civil liberties issues, the Islamaniacs are famously in favour of, all the time they don't have power to sabotage them) is cynically discarded.

re: #104 Macker

re: #69 zombie

And obviously, you survived. So did I back in 5th grade!

Wow! Haile Selassie! That's got us all beat by a mile. I'm impress.

What in the world were you doing living in Ethiopia as a kid?

Finally got time to read it all... Excellent report, zombie!

Yeah, I bet it was weird finding yourself on the same side of people you find otherwise loathesome.

By the way, I'm wondering when "going code pink" would become slang for being an over-the-top attention whore.

re: #108 Spiny Norman

Well, even a blind pig finds an acorn near his stopped clock twice a day... or somethin' like that.

The stopped clock phenomenon writ large, eh?

That is fantastic photo essay.

It's a shame that the distain for Communism seems to have been replaced with 'who cares they make cheap s##t for the Walmart'.

What bugs me about these protests is that "progressives" will bitch and moan about he abuses of human rights the commie ideology perpetrates in Tibet, like it has done in countless other countries before, but still buy into Marxist-leninist guff.

Anyway, they will boycott the Olympics, like it matters. Like it'll teach China.

Meanwhile, they genuflex towards the UN every morning, giving it the moral authority to authorize war, sanctions, etc. Or not.

They forget that in this construct, China (and the old USSR), have veto powers in the Security council, something a helluva more import than those stupid Olympics. But they still buy into the UN.

Ah, now I finally recognize the yellow El Pato amphibious vehicle in part 3, jpeg 2245 about 50% down.

They are DUKWs

[Eagles Speak]

...the amphibious truck -better known as an "amphibious 2-1/2 ton truck" or DUKW (pronounced "duck")("DUKW" was not an acronym, but rather a code - D = built in 1942;
U = amphibious 2-1/2 ton truck;K = front wheel drive;W = rear wheel drive).

The DUKWs became Army vehicles:
The US Navy, responsible for the operation of all boats and ships, simply did not have enough men to train and operate all the various landing craft rolling off assembly lines.... DUKWs earned their stripes in the Pacific, too, landing at Kwajalein and on other islands, always proving their worth. In the Philippines, DUKWs were invaluable.

Not that they didn't have some occasional problems, as Morison notes in describing the Normandy landings on D-Day, June 6, 1944... Once the assault started, landing and beaching craft crews were completely on their own...For two hours after the beachmaster suspended landings, about 50 LCTs and LCIs milled about looking for gaps in the obstacles. Two young skippers then broke the stalemate. Lieutenant 9jg) S. W. Brinker USNR crashed LCT-30 through and beached, her automatic weapons blazing at an enemy strongpoint, which shot her so that she had to be abandoned; but her vehicles got ashore. Lieutenant E. B. Koehler USNR followed with LCI-554 but managed to retract after landing his passengers; and after this example the shoreward movement was never interrupted.

Most of the artillery scheduled to land between 0800 and 0900 was boated in dukws, which were unable to cope with the choppy sea. Only five made it to the beach... The DUKWs were used for one last amphibious operation in Europe -- the famous Rhine River crossing in Germany, at the end of March 1945. During this operation, 370 DUKWs were used to move men and supplies.

Today, DUKWs survive, offering tourists rides in a surprising number of locales, for example, Baltimore's Ride the Ducks. Ride the Ducks deserves recognition for another reason: Ride The Ducks Vehicles and Hurricane Katrina... Ride The Ducks was the only amphibious tour operator/manufacturer to support the rescue and evacuation efforts in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. We immediately volunteered equipment, crew, and other resources in order to help evacuate hundreds of residents of the hardest-hit areas. Our team of volunteers was deemed "invaluable" by many involved in the rescue effort as our ducks were able to safely access and remove large numbers of people from areas inaccessible by other means.

See: DUKW

re: #113 dak

What bugs me about these protests is that "progressives" will bitch and moan about he abuses of human rights the commie ideology perpetrates in Tibet, like it has done in countless other countries before, but still buy into Marxist-leninist guff.

Because Stalin and Mao weren't "real communism"...

Although you could probably catch the same Commie twits singing the praises of those two horrific butchers the next time you see them.

I'm an academic who specializes in Chinese political violence, and I've written an article or two on Uyghur separatism. The answer as to whether they're the good guys is somewhat complicated. There are indeed some violent groups and isolated terrorists among the separatist movement. They generally attack Chinese government civilians, but also people they consider collaborators, and have been known to blow us buses, and smuggle weapons. Some (as in a couple of dozen) trained with the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, which is allied to al-Qaeda. Most of the violence was in the 1990s, before the Chinese really cracked down. Given the tens of thousands of Uyghur separatist activists, and the millions in Xinjiang itself who would gladly take independence if offered, the hundreds of Uyghurs who have actually carried out violents acts is a small percentage of the total population. With one or two cryptic exceptions, foreign Uyghur advocacy groups universally and unconditionally condemn violence to achieve independence, and are also arguably the most pro-American Muslim separatist groups in the world. The Uyghur version of Islam is not particularly radical (the Uyghur music videos you can see on Youtube attest to this -- no head coverings on the women, let alone burqas), and when there are Islam-related protests in China, they are generally related to real affronts to religious practice (such as when the Chinese government actually bulldozed a mosque without due process to make way for an airport)

The Red Chinese and the Looney leftists in SF, they both perturb me. They are both extremely scary. They support each other against us but if put together would damage each other. I vote for the latter.

re: #16 zombie

Is it a mistake to give the Uyghurs slack? Are they really the terrorists the Chinese claim they are?

Agghh! The real world is a difficult place!

Even more so for the Mujahideen.

See:
- Islamic Awakening Forum: Who is more evil - China or the USA?
- Islamic Awakening Forum: Report on the Jihad in Northwest China (citation could not be confirmed by searching MEMRI!)
- MEMRI: An Interview with the Director of the Islamic Association of China

All this seems to indicate that Islamic oil money may experiencing more difficulties working into China than in the West, both ideologically and practically.

Initially I was kind of pissed that people were politicizing the Olympic torch relay. But it's nice to see people protesting something that actually deserves to be protested ... not the relay, but autocratic China and its truly oppressive, imperialistic ways. And supporting true independence for people who truly deserve independence, the Tibetans.

Plus, this is an amazing exercise in the power of free speech. The pro-Chinese and anti-Chinese protesters must hate each others guts, yet nobody got beaten up, nobody killed anybody. If only Muslim marches in Western countries urging death for the Muhammad cartoon artists had been met with much larger, vigorous counter-protests in support of freedom of speech.

That, and its also cool to see people carrying protest signs that actually make sense.

re: #119 Tigger2005

Initially I was kind of pissed that people were politicizing the Olympic torch relay. But it's nice to see people protesting something that actually deserves to be protested ... not the relay, but autocratic China and its truly oppressive, imperialistic ways. And supporting true independence for people who truly deserve independence, the Tibetans.

Plus, this is an amazing exercise in the power of free speech. The pro-Chinese and anti-Chinese protesters must hate each others guts, yet nobody got beaten up, nobody killed anybody. If only Muslim marches in Western countries urging death for the Muhammad cartoon artists had been met with much larger, vigorous counter-protests in support of freedom of speech.

That, and its also cool to see people carrying protest signs that actually make sense.

Oh, one more thing ... I never thought China deserved an Olympics in the first place.

I'm torn between my anti-communist sentiments and the loathing of San Fransisco Hippies. I dislike them all apparently equally well, because of the values and ideologies they all hold against American principles. Hippies, Socialists, Communists? I need to take a mental bath after seeing all those photos. I see the hippies who usually protest against American Culture hand in hand with Marxists now on the opposing side in just this instance, I find that immensely hypocritical and discrediting. Hippies and Tibetan munks share very little philosophically. The are opposites I might add. Hippies prefer unbridled freedom without morality or consequence, While Tibetans seek reality and freedom to achieve it. Hippies will conveniently side with the Communists because American culture and philosophy also take a more a similar outlook. Hippies see China and the USA as the same thing, this reveals more about their ignorance than I can even begin to discuss here.

Sorry Zombie, in the battle between the Uyghurs and China, I am definitely on China's side. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

I will never take the sides of muslims, no matter what. In the Darfur situation, muslims are killing muslims, I don't care. The Darfur muslims given the chance would try their best to kill non-muslims.

This has been a year where the long knives of the left are turning on each other which is often the case. The convention in 08 like the Chicago convention 40 years ago will see the conflict come to a head.

Finally got a chance to read through the entire report.

None of the "real" reporters even came close to such complete coverage.

Great work.

You get a Gold Medal.

Likewise, I just read the whole thing. Thanks for the excellent writing!

BTW, in a related issue, be sure to keep track of the next big "showdown" in the China-Tibet thing...the Olympic Torch will be on Mt. Everest in the next week or so. Since the China-Nepal border runs right across the summit of said peak, things are getting interesting...the Nepal government has banned all mountaineering above a certain point on their entire side of the mountain from May 1 to May 10, and will actually have soldiers on the mountain to enforce it.

Since this is prime-time for expeditions to summit Everest, this is creating major developments on the trails...