Create a boogieman in your mind, and sure enough it'll turn on you.

It was a Typical Dem Interview

Lies
All Lies

This is a rhetorical question, and you could probably write a multi-volume series on this, but:

What is WRONG with this people?

these

PIMF

Rove, you magnificent Bastard.

Its continues to amaze me how, collectivle, when it comes to Fox, these people have their hands over their ears and are saying 'lalalalalalalalala I can't hear you'. Fox does have some bias, but they are honest about it. that's part of the reason why many like them. They are certainly far more balanced.

I expect the interview to be respectful and to hit him between the eyes at the same time.

re: #4 bunker buster

these

PIMF

All this people are belong to us.

In addition, it legitimized the greatest threat to our country — fact free debate

LMAO! koslings wouldn't know facts if it bit them on their asses.

The greatest threat to our country is Fox News? Boy am I relieved. It's no wonder that dems are willing to elect either Hillary or the Obamanation to the Presidency, if they view Fox as the greatest threat. Kind of wonder where they put our real enemies on the list (or do they even think we have real enemies; or maybe they think our enemies are just chickens coming home to roost?)

re: #2 LeftJustAintRight

It was a Typical Dem Interview

Lies
All Lies

You see it?

legitimizing fact free debate?
That would be thanks to Obama, not Fox News.

He's a commie.
Fine
Hangs with radical bombers.
Fine.
Preacher hates America.
Fine
Goes on Fox.
DAMN HIM ALL TO HELL!

Everything anyone says on Fox is tained I guess.

Pretty sad world where people are so brain dead that they are forced to judge the truthiness of statements not on their own merit, but on what channel they got it from.

What Fox News reports contradicts the holy gospel according to Karl Marx, therefore it is Faux Noise to the Left.

Lefties lie. They lie to themselves. They lie to each other to stay in each other's good graces. And they robotically repeat their lies to us.

Truth has to be toxic to them.

When Leftists Seethe

re: #10 coquimbojoe

Yes
You could see the disdain he had for Chris

Denver '08 !

a vote for Hillary is a vote for THE SHOW of the year.

You can’t trust the Obama campaign, they will lie to you to promote right-wing institutions.

Er... dammit, they're onto us! Well, the jig is up, I guess. No use pretending anymore. Nothing gets past these "progressives"!

What morons.

He stuttered alot and kept looking away when answering questions
Chris was easy on him

Gosh...Obama's appearance on Fox might give the network some legitimacy and then people might start watching it...you know...instead of those ratings juggernauts CNN and MSNBC.

To keep his credibility, he should have stuck with the completely unbiased and objective MSNBC

re: #1 jaunte

Create a boogieman in your mind, and sure enough it'll turn on you.

Yeah. They're not called moonbats for no reason.

You can’t trust the Obama campaign, they will lie to you to promote right-wing institutions.

These peole are killing me- too funny.

Yeah- obama is lying to us to promote those hard-core right-wing institutions such as Trinity Church- a hot bed of neo-con activism, if I ever saw one.

/

re: #9 eaglewingz08

The greatest threat to our country is Fox News? Boy am I relieved. It's no wonder that dems are willing to elect either Hillary or the Obamanation to the Presidency, if they view Fox as the greatest threat. Kind of wonder where they put our real enemies on the list (or do they even think we have real enemies; or maybe they think our enemies are just chickens coming home to roost?)

I thought that the greatest threat to this country was Gorebal Warbling and drowning polar bears. What about tax cuts for the rich? I just know there are other things out there that are going to kill us all faster than Fox News......

/

How dare he legitimize the most viewed news network in America by talking to them!

Oh, wait.

re: #9 eaglewingz08

The greatest threat to our country is Fox News? Boy am I relieved. It's no wonder that dems are willing to elect either Hillary or the Obamanation to the Presidency, if they view Fox as the greatest threat.

That and LGF

Fox News, the Greatest Leftist Straw Man of all time.

re: #21 Saul Goode

Yeah, has Keith Olberass interviewed him yet?

And I thought Olbermann was the greatest threat to our country...sheesh

This just proves what a small base Obama actually has.

The Democrat Party is split over him, and anyone from the center to the right will vote McCain.

Obama is a fatally flawed candidate.

Obama is doomed.

Lefty is doomed!

No free stuff for you, Lefty!

Hilarious! I love how the left treats their candidates like some kind of pop celebrities! The Beatles vs The Rolling Stones! It's like someone's favorite band just gave an interview to Tiger Beat Magazine and lost a fan - oh my.

It's OK that BHO would meet with any terrorist or dictator, but if he is interviewed on American television, OMG!

mbruce (#12),

He's a commie.
Fine
Hangs with radical bombers.
Fine.
Preacher hates America.
Fine
Goes on Fox.
DAMN HIM ALL TO HELL!

Perfect.

It's a strange world the Lefty mind.

Of course it's justified since Fox News is "the greatest threat to our country."

You would think the Democrats would be happy to get their message (whatever it is) out to the largest possible audience rather than being on the CNN or PMSNBC echo chambers.

They (the Lefties) truly are like spoiled, young children. At the slightest perceived offense, they scoop up their toys and stomp off home. It's humorous, but at the same time pathetic.

re: #16 LeftJustAintRight

Yes
You could see the disdain he had for Chris

Did Chris ask good questions? Did he evade or answer?

I thought that the greatest threat to this country was Gorebal Warbling and drowning polar bears.

Amazing...Gore was given a Nobel Peace Prize for his work in promoting the global warming scam...

...meanwhile, the food shortages, due in large part to his bullshit and the ridiculous "fixes" are causing people to starve.

He should be tried for crimes against humanity

Lemme get this straight, or at least reasonably less crooked...

Obama is a secret agent right winger and the Fox Network has a terrorist army of genocidal suicide bombers?

-Isn't this taking Trooferism just a bit too far?

OVER
THE
EDGE,
R

I'm glad your house is safe, Sage.

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

You would think the Democrats would be happy to get their message (whatever it is) out to the largest possible audience rather than being on the CNN or PMSNBC echo chambers.

You would think, but then, you'd be wrong....

re: #39 Noam Sayin'

I'm glad your house is safe, Sage.

me, too!

Yeah, has Keith Olberass interviewed him yet?

yeah, but the Uberdouche was underneath the desk and it sounded like his mouth was full of something.

Did anyone else see Fox News Sunday today? It was on from 9:30 - 10:30 (Channel 8 Time Warner from Columbus)

re: #39 Noam Sayin'

I'm glad your house is safe, Sage.

Thanks Noam. I do feel bad for some of my neighbors a few blocks away who have been evacuated.

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

You would think the Democrats would be happy to get their message (whatever it is) out to the largest possible audience rather than being on the CNN or PMSNBC echo chambers.

Their greatest concern is that Barry may need answer "a" question.

re: #9 eaglewingz08

Yes they do think we have real enemies. They are Fox News and Global Warming.

Seems like a good time to buy NewsCorp stock. Anything that makes Marxists this uncomfortable has to be a good investment.

re: #40 coquimbojoe

You would think, but then, you'd be wrong....

I need to recalibrate my synapses into moonbat mode.

the greatest threat to our country — fact free debate.

Since when were these idjits interested in ANY kind of debate?

"fact-free debate" A liberal's version of debate is:
C :"Islamists want to impose sharia law on the US"
L :"ISLAMOPHOBE! RACIST!"
They don't debate, they accuse.

The best part of the show was the analysis after the interview was over.

re: #36 coquimbojoe

Did Chris ask good questions? Did he evade or answer?

It was a Typical Clinton like interview
Seemed Chris was given the questions to ask and Obama had scripted answers for all of them
He did stutter alot and kept looking away when answering questions

No need for seething little kosie ones. forty five minutes of dribble drabble disguised as meaningful commentary punctuated by about five softy questions from Wallace. Dreadful. Those of you out west will be best advised to find other use of your time today.

re: #43 McJenny50

Did anyone else see Fox News Sunday today? It was on from 9:30 - 10:30 (Channel 8 Time Warner from Columbus)

I did

I quess we could just do away with the election and make Obama king.

I wonder if the bomber convinced these folks.....

from the kos kids.........it isn't "white people" that Obama has a problem with; it's ignorant backwater racist Appalachian white trash that Obama has a problem with.

I think that is a hard but true statement. Thus, Obama adopting an even more populist message or denouncing Rev. Wright even harder is not going to change the minds of these ignorant Appalachian racist backwater white trash types.

Fortunately, these Appalachian backwater types are mostly in deep red states that we don't need to win.

Obama will shine nicely with the moderate white voters in the new midwest swing states, so to hell with Appalachia.

/last time

In addition, it legitimized the greatest threat to our country — fact free debate.

In lefto-world, a fact-free debate is one in which actual facts are used not only to challenge their world view, but also are not refutable, because the Truth is supposed to be interpretive. The only refutation left to them is to claim there are no facts.

Just a thought - is there any media outlet that would bring this kind of anger from the right? I know CBS draws some deserved scorn from the right, but to the point where a Republican candidate would be abandoned for being interviewed by them?

The left is freaking nuts.

Fox is the biggest threat in the moonbat's eye because they use the word "terrorist," as opposed to the phrase "person with political differences."

Jaun Williams is cozying up to Obama
He sucks

re: #55 pat

I quess we could just do away with the election and make Obama king.

But since he's a neo-con plant, that's exactly what RoveHaliburtonCo want!

/kosling

re: #48 JammieWearingFool

I need to recalibrate my synapses into moonbat mode.

Don't do that its like crossing your eyes, they could get stuck that way...

What is WRONG with this people?

The final suicidal coup de gras will probably come from a group of lefties called "Recreate '68" who are planning massive demonstrations in the streets of Denver. Can you imagine? The Twilight of the (would be) gods? The entire set crashing to the stage in a final apocalyptic act of self-destruction for the Democratic Party? O, yes, Recreate 68 claims to be non-violent.

re: #60 LeftJustAintRight

Jaun Williams is cozying up to Obama
He sucks

You sure? I think he blows...

The thing about the left is they fear being challenged or asked tough questions. Obama could come out of the interview and look good to them, but the fact he did the interview makes him a right winger?
Don't challenge anything the left does, accept it all blindly.

There is no diagnosis in the DSM-IV which does not fit these people perfectly.

Liberalism is a mental disorder

Anybody actually read that Kos diary? He's a leftist economist.

He laments about nothing being on AM other than conservative talk radio, then makes assertions about how the latest economic expantion was actually a crappy economic expansion, as far as expansions go, then backs it with with 'look at my links.' I linked to the link, which links to more links.

Linking in lieu of argument, a classic form of 'objective' debate.

re: #63 Phocid

Denver is going to be fun. This is the year the modern dem party rips itself apart. It will be a brokered convention. There will be violence in the streets. And if the candidate is Obama , he will be this decade's Mcgovern. If the Candidate is Hill, she will still lose but not as badly. The Dems should have listened to Joe Lieberman. He has been warning Dems for years about the party cozying up to the radical left, but was never listened to.

re: #17 mikeinmd

Time to buy stock in Orville!

At the core of Obama’s political philosophy is the belief that real divisions should not stand in the way of conversation. He has always believed that it is right and necessary for us to speak to folks on the other side of the aisle, to speak with our enemies.

Speaking to iran = good.

Speaking to fox news = unforgivable!

And a Kos Kid swears not to vote for Obama, now that he has Fox cooties on him

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

The irony is that Fox really *IS* fair and balanced.

Fox reliably presents both sides of an issue - even to the extent of having Mara Liason and Juan Williams - both PBS leftists - as regular commentators.

Can you imagine in your wildest dreams that CBS would have Hannity or Limbaugh as regulars?

The problem is that when you're awash in moonbats, normal no longer looks normal. And from where I sit, CBS, PBS, NBC and ABC are neck deep in moonbats.

Obama is a tool of the Right wing

Partially correct

Obama is a tool.

He has always believed that it is right and necessary for us to speak to folks on the other side of the aisle, to speak with our enemies.

I don't know how the rest of you see this, but I take this to mean they are talking about us, fellow Americans that don't goose-step with them.

I find that particularly disturbing. While I totally disagree with their ideology and I view them as a threat to liberty, I guess I've never thought of them as the enemy.

re: #76 vapig

There is something so wrong about a man who places Hamas and Fox News in the same category.

Obama sucks

re: #76 vapig

I don't know how the rest of you see this, but I take this to mean they are talking about us, fellow Americans that don't goose-step with them.

That's exactly how they see us.

Personally- I don't see them as enemies, just deluded idiots.

I'll watch it, just to see Juan Williams squirm.

re: #77 Shug

There is something so wrong about a man who places Hamas and Fox News in the same category.

Obama sucks

Actually, wouldn't they hold Hamas in higher regard? After all, isn't Hamas merely freedom fighters struggling against those nasty oppressive joooooooosss?

re: #77 Shug

There is something so wrong about a man who places Hamas and Fox News in the same category.

Obama sucks

*Same* category? You're being too generous. These people clearly, unhesitatingly put Hamas way, way above Fox News, or any American conservative.

re: #76 vapig

I guess I've never thought of them as the enemy.

They are the enemy of all that is Good and Just
They hate Religion
They hate Guns
They hate Family Values
They hate Freedom
They hate the Military
They hate anyone who has a different opinion

re: #78 Sharmuta

These lefty's are enemies of the Constitution.

I seem to remember something about protecting the Constitution from the enemy, both foreign and domestic.

They are the domestic enemy of the Constitution.

re: #80 vapig

Actually, wouldn't they hold Hamas in higher regard? After all, isn't Hamas merely freedom fighters struggling against those nasty oppressive joooooooosss?

and hamas was elected

bush selected

Off topic but interesting:

I just saw something on (cootie-infested) FNC about the bad spate of violence in my great city over the past weeks. Some Chicago cops will be getting armed with military M-4 carbines. I get a little freaked when I see beat cops with weapons like that, but apparently the police brass thinks this dramatic step is needed

re: #78 Sharmuta

That's exactly how they see us.

Personally- I don't see them as enemies, just deluded idiots.

Lance Kates had a very good quote on this subject:

Conservatives think liberals are people with bad ideas.

Liberals think conservatives are bad people.

re: #76 vapig

I don't know how the rest of you see this, but I take this to mean they are talking about us, fellow Americans that don't goose-step with them.

I find it ironic that the political culture that flippantly throws around the term 'Nazi,' act like them the most. All of the signs and logical tactics are there.

I just find it odd how people who - generally speaking - love to psycho-analyze everybody and their mother, become angry knee-jerk spastics when their own belief structures are threatened.

Hey lefties - you're just as human as the rest of us; Perhaps more so. Your anointed Prophet Obama is just another dude trying to keep his job by lying to working people. Being brown and using big words doesn't make you a saint.

Juan Williams has been very hard on Obama

#74 Redstate

The irony is that Fox really *IS* fair and balanced.

Fox reliably presents both sides of an issue - even to the extent of having Mara Liason and Juan Williams - both PBS leftists - as regular commentators.

Can you imagine in your wildest dreams that CBS would have Hannity or Limbaugh as regulars?

The problem is that when you're awash in moonbats, normal no longer looks normal. And from where I sit, CBS, PBS, NBC and ABC are neck deep in moonbats.

Yes, related....a week ago Friday, I had on a local "community radio" station.....basically an independent public radio station. Very very liberal, but they have good music programs on in the mornings and afternoons (then political crap in the evenings). KFAI for those of you in the Twin Cities. So anyway, last week was fundraising time, and the lady said "we have a wide diversity on here. It's not like Fox News where only one viewpoint is allowed".

The irony meter went nuts. FNC has many liberal commentators and guests. I have NEVER heard a conservative voice, not once, in the 7 years of listening to this radio station. Even their non-political music programing, which is what I generally listen to, has liberal hosts who like to share their hatred of Bush.

re: #38 Render

Lemme get this straight, or at least reasonably less crooked...

Obama is a secret agent right winger and the Fox Network has a terrorist army of genocidal suicide bombers?

-Isn't this taking Trooferism just a bit too far?

OVER
THE
EDGE,
R

Markos "Screw 'em" Moulitsas is also a secret agent according to a former kosling.

re: #78 Sharmuta

That's exactly how they see us.

Personally- I don't see them as enemies, just deluded idiots.

Agreed. That is how I've always seen them. Misguided, misinformed idealist. A block to out-vote, but never as an enemy.

I would like to still think of them that way - but has anybody else noticed the rise in violent rhetoric, followed by violent clashes that involve these folks? Very disturbing. In these cases I would like the police to take a more proactive role to show that violence will not be tolerated and is not part of their 1st Amendment rights.

I'm thinking that the hard left is getting so desperate that they're about ready to exhume Che Guevara, and prop his carcass up at the dais in Denver. Sort of a Weekend At Bernie's sort of thing. They will have Markos do the voice-overs.

re: #89 pat

Juan Williams has been very hard on Obama

Yes, Mr. Williams has a shred of integrity, unlike Mr. Obama.

re: #89 pat

Juan Williams has been very hard on Obama

He has been
But something has changed
I think he drank the kool-aid

Obama’s appearance on Fox news was a tactical mistake of massive proportions. In addition, it legitimized the greatest threat to our country — fact free debate. As such, Obama has lost my vote

If these types ever had any power, they would enact a form of auto-genocide. Why? Because such types aren't interested in real evil, but fighting "evil" that poses no risks. A sad and detestable group of fools.

Lefties need to eat many more waaahhhhfuls in the future

re: #84 Shug

and hamas was elected

bush selected

Good grief? Are they still on that? This chanting slogan stuff has just GOT to stop!

Obama was talking to Chris about the questions he is going to bring to the table for McCain
He acts like he has the primary sewn up and in the bag

re: #85 chicagodudewhotrades

Off topic but interesting:

I just saw something on (cootie-infested) FNC about the bad spate of violence in my great city over the past weeks. Some Chicago cops will be getting armed with military M-4 carbines. I get a little freaked when I see beat cops with weapons like that, but apparently the police brass thinks this dramatic step is needed

This past week, every single news piece on the violence in Chicago has featured the mayor shreiking about "Big Evil Gun Companies" 2/3rds of the way through the copy. You'd almost think the news services are shills for his agenda.

Of course, they only mention that the shootings are gang-related at the very end, if at all.

Hey Mr. Mayor, I've got this crazy idea - why not try arresting gang members?

re: #82 LeftJustAintRight

They are the enemy of all that is Good and Just
They hate Religion
They hate Guns
They hate Family Values
They hate Freedom
They hate the Military
They hate anyone who has a different opinion

Very well put!

re: #85 chicagodudewhotrades

Off topic but interesting:

I just saw something on (cootie-infested) FNC about the bad spate of violence in my great city over the past weeks. Some Chicago cops will be getting armed with military M-4 carbines. I get a little freaked when I see beat cops with weapons like that, but apparently the police brass thinks this dramatic step is needed

According to ABC News, the problem is "gun violence". Violence committed by guns. People, of course, have nothing whatsoever to do with it.

This is spectacular! The only forum that has any credibility -Daily Kos- doesn't have Obama preaching on their site today. That's not counting the expensive ads his campaign places there. Poor babies! Now he has given in to the waaay far right Fox, tool of the evil republicans.
What a bunch of sissies. Now they're gonna take their ball with 'em and go home. HaHaHa

re: #90 Dave the.....

#74 Redstate

Yes, related....a week ago Friday, I had on a local "community radio" station.....basically an independent public radio station. Very very liberal, but they have good music programs on in the mornings and afternoons (then political crap in the evenings). KFAI for those of you in the Twin Cities. So anyway, last week was fundraising time, and the lady said "we have a wide diversity on here. It's not like Fox News where only one viewpoint is allowed".

The irony meter went nuts. FNC has many liberal commentators and guests. I have NEVER heard a conservative voice, not once, in the 7 years of listening to this radio station. Even their non-political music programing, which is what I generally listen to, has liberal hosts who like to share their hatred of Bush.

They speak Newspeak.

These are the people that Orwell warned us about.

re: #35 Cartman

errr... conservatives tend to act like this as well. Just sayin'...

re: #100 Pawn of the Oppressor

Daley want the bangers playing midnight basketball so they aren't shooting people instead

re: #87 BigPapa

I find it ironic that the political culture that flippantly throws around the term 'Nazi,' act like them the most. All of the signs and logical tactics are there.

for your reading list

re: #106 chicagodudewhotrades

Daley want the bangers playing midnight basketball so they aren't shooting people instead

Daly wants to deflect from his inability and unwillinness to deal with black crime.

re: #105 Ornery Potlicker

errr... conservatives tend to act like this as well. Just sayin'...

As a group? It's quite clear that the whaaaaaabulationists have a large contingent in the leftist realm of thought. Are you here to argue that it's all relative?

re: #105 Ornery Potlicker

I'm not sure I follow your reasoning. Care to provide some examples?

Thanks

Re: UPDATE at 4/27/08 9:28:11 am

eugene writes-

This Is Who Obama Is.
........Obama's visit to Fox News is consistent with everything he believes in.

Huh? WTF kind of world do thses morons live?

Hey eugene. A preposition is something you should never end a sentence with.

re: #107 RememberSekhmet?

I'll be getting to that soon. I've been reading The Pink Swastika recently.

re: #102 Occasional Reader

According to ABC News, the problem is "gun violence". Violence committed by guns. People, of course, have nothing whatsoever to do with it.

Of course they will always use that as an excuse to disarm a people.

I could make the same argument regarding mispelled words. Its the 'puters fault - not mine.

re: #113 vapig

Of course they will always use that as an excuse to disarm a people.

I could make the same argument regarding mispelled words. Its the 'puters fault - not mine.

Makes me even happier that I went through 250 rounds of 9mm Luger at the range this weekend.

Guns (and conservatism/capitalism)=Violence.

No Guns(and conservatism/capitalism)=No Violence.

Now I get it. Doh!

re: #85 chicagodudewhotrades

Dude, something tells me that the Police Department of the People's Socialist City-State of Chicago will be among the first to equip their motor vehicle force with Hummers as regular cruisers. Something to scare the shit out of the gangs (are the El Rukns still in operation there?), not to mention the regular citizenry.

unyielding...when it comes to Fox News

Makes perfect sense to me. The media is their chief means to power. Any competition on that turf is intolerable. It dilutes their messaging. What lefty fears above all is competition.

re: #105 Ornery Potlicker

errr... conservatives tend to act like this as well. Just sayin'...

How about some examples?

I'd be so happy if Fox would give Liz Trotta more than 3-4 minutes per week.

re: #118 Cartman

I asked the same question.

Regarding Obama,.....I propose a new drinking game. Everytime he says "um...." you have to drink. A five minute interview could leave you red-eyed drunk in 5 to 10 minutes.

...... ... ..... ..... ... . . . . ...... .. . (crickets chirping) .... .. . .. . ... ..... ... .. . .

These commie morons are on crack

re: #88 Pawn of the Oppressor

It happens when Kidz go on crack.

Holy Crap! These idiots are too stupid to drive... let alone vote! If they don't calm down they are going to give themselves a bleeding ulcer, and everyone knows that stress kills. So if... wait... never mind... keep it up you progressive fools.

To show you how wacked Chicago is....before you can do business with the city, the city council says you have to fill out a form disclosing if you ever employed slaves. Meaning, if you own a......say industrial dry cleaning business. And you have operations in North Carolina, and a predecessors predecessors predecessor had a small number of slaves in the 1820s, the city may go after you for owning slaves.

Of course the entire power structure of Chicago is Democratic, and we all know the history behind the Democrat party and slavery, but I guess that is different.

Fox News Free Speech— the greatest threat to our country!

WE WANT STATE RUN LEFT-WING DNC MEDIA - AND WE WANT IT NOW!

/Kos Kidz

re: #102 Occasional Reader Well that's just ridiculous O.R. - obviously people with Legal Firearms are doing all the shooting in Chicago!
Sheesh!

Kos is the premier example of the "reality based community". Once you understand they operate from a fiction-based reality, they become much easier to understand.

I think left-wing neo-Marxist redistributionist progressives should shut up, suit up, and fight along side their brethren: Al Qaeda.

Fight the enemy!

re: #117 godfrey

Makes perfect sense to me. The media is their chief means to power. Any competition on that turf is intolerable. It dilutes their messaging. What lefty fears above all is competition.

Well said.
This desperate desire to have full power to form ideas also accounts for the leftists' extreme intolerance at universities.

re: #88 Pawn of the Oppressor

people who - generally speaking - love to psycho-analyze everybody and their mother

Freud would be proud, at least

re: #115 BigPapa

Thats what the Mayor of toronto says

if people didn't have triple locked handguns than gangbangers wouldn't have smuggled stolen handguns.

a Kos Kid swears not to vote for Obama, now that he has Fox cooties on him

Since Hillary has appeared on Fox News Sunday before, and thus has Fox cooties on her, I wonder who this genius is going to vote for in November?

I don't know why it isn't more obvious to people at this point but, since they're all for talking with Hamas, Iran, etc...and they are not for talking with Fox News, I would imagine that it means they really don't think Hamas and Iran are the enemy. Not really the enemy, at any rate.

So yes, they're totally insane.

I've said this before but everytime I hear Obama or Hillary or any comment from the Kos Kooks this always comes to mind. "If you can't dazzle them with brillance, baffle them with bullshit."

They would rather see Obama interviewed by Al-Jazeera than Fox.

It is humorous how these left wing kooks despise Fox News so much. They pretend to be diverse and tolerant, but don't say anything that they disagree with or you are a nazi/fascist/trogldyte and must be held in the highest contempt. The irony is delightful.

The democrats who I deal with on a daily basis do not seem to be very enthused with either Obama or Hillary, much the same as how a lot of Republicans feel about John Mc Cain. The election will probably come down to who has the larger motivated base, as I do not sense a passionate electorate in either party right now.

One of the problems with things like the left's perception of FNC is that it seems the left, much more so than the far right, actually fails to percieve things that contradict their preconceptions.

I've debated far-righties who are pretty far out there, but when there's a factual point at odds, they rarely gloss over it - they argue it, check sources, etc. Not saying it never happened, but not common.

On the other hand, in my debates with the far left, it is almost stock-standard that they simply ignore anything that contradicts them - and when I say ignore, I don't mean they decide not to address it, I mean they actually don't experience the contradiction - I've had lefties, confronted with a list of facts and sources, say a matter of minutes later that I never gave them any examples.

A moonbat could watch a whole day of the entire staff of NPR being interviewed on FNC, and the only thing they would remember is that FNC is a "far-right echo chamber."

The "gun control" debate is a fine example. I used to engage in many, many online debates on that subject. Maybe once or twice did the leftie even acknowledge that I had presented REAMS of evidence and dozens, scores, or even hundreds of sources, in any remotely honest way.

"Honest" is kind of a tricky word to use here, because a lot of these people weren't deliberately lying - they simply had a "reality filter" on that did not allow certain ideas to pass through. One very specific example that happened dozens of times was that the lefty would claim that Dr. Kleck (who wrote a very important book on the subject) was a "right-wing gun nut" or "hired by the NRA."

Dr. Kleck was a left-wing Florida college professor in no way associated with the NRA who started his study hoping to prove than guns should be banned - and was shocked to discover that his preconceptions were 180 degrees off.

But after being corrected, provided links, quotes, phone numbers, etc.... the SAME lefty would claim the SAME thing a week later!

I don't think all of them were lying - some of them at least literally did not "experience" the correction - it's like some sad, pathetic version of traumatic memory suppression, or more likely their "filter" didn't allow the information to actually enter long-term memory.

I don't bother with such online debates much anymore, because in ten years they never accomplished anything. "Invincible ignorance," I call it sometimes.

re: #47 Egfrow

Haven't been there lately, but the paultards were going completely bonkers bashing News Corp. on the yahoo stock bb for NWS. Thought they could short the stock to oblivion and hurt Murdock, dipwad "Sharpton's a stand up guy" O'Reilly and Fox News. I would imagine many of s'laup nor followers gravitated to obamalamadingdong.

Guess I better vote for affirmative action Obamanation to avoid the taint of racism and prospective far-left fever swamp riots in Denver and Sharpton/Jackson dissing the black man race riots in the big cities. The mainstream media should just do the anatomically impossible, given how much they are in the tank for this big twat Hussein.

Ummm...Obama was more or less pretty damn fantastic on Fox today. He's slicker than Slick Willy.
Luckily, he has the same weakness as Billy Boy- he thinks he's smarter than everybody else. He thinks he can talk his way out of anything- it's like a challenge to him. It's that arrogant attitude that could be his downfall. It's those rare occasions when he gets lazy and thinks he can get by without even really trying that he gets nailed. If he puts out an A effort like he did today on Fox, he's pretty much unbeatable.

re: #134 alacrityfitzhugh

Since Hillary has appeared on Fox News Sunday before, and thus has Fox cooties on her, I wonder who this genius is going to vote for in November?

He's just a punk-ass kid. Kids like that don't think so far ahead.

re: #139 Merovign

I don't think all of them were lying - some of them at least literally did not "experience" the correction - it's like some sad, pathetic version of traumatic memory suppression, or more likely their "filter" didn't allow the information to actually enter long-term memory.

I don't bother with such online debates much anymore, because in ten years they never accomplished anything. "Invincible ignorance," I call it sometimes.

It's how they deal with the relentless daily discomfort of cognitive dissonance.

Chris Wallace gave a very mild interview. I was expecting much more hard hitting questioning. If anything, you'd figure the niceness of the interview would allay fears that Fox is "right wing". Guess not.

Lefties: Morons.

re: #12 mbruce

He's a commie.
Fine
Hangs with radical bombers.
Fine.
Preacher hates America.
Fine
Goes on Fox.
DAMN HIM ALL TO HELL!

Great post! Pithy too.

re: #141 jimboster

Ummm...Obama was more or less pretty damn fantastic on Fox today. He's slicker than Slick Willy.
Luckily, he has the same weakness as Billy Boy- he thinks he's smarter than everybody else. He thinks he can talk his way out of anything- it's like a challenge to him. It's that arrogant attitude that could be his downfall. It's those rare occasions when he gets lazy and thinks he can get by without even really trying that he gets nailed. If he puts out an A effort like he did today on Fox, he's pretty much unbeatable.

I don't know about unbeatable, but he did come off well. William Kristol's only comment was that Obama's responses were not particularly substantative, i.e., that Hillary would have answered with specifics on policies.

The problem here is that Fox has waited 700+ days for Obama to appear on the show. Wallace certainly felt that he needed to be softer than usual with Obama so as not to discourage him from coming again.

We must keep in mind what Wallace did not ask:

1) Why did you vote "present" in the Illinois senate 110 times and in the US Senate 40 times?

2) Why do you think Jimmy Carter has a right to speak to Hamas?

3) What do you hope to gain by speaking with Achmedinejad?

4) Associates: zbigniew brzezinski, Samantha Powers (invade Israel), Rev. Wright, etc.

What would happen if FOX News were to sponsor a debate between Obama and Dinnerjacket? Or Obama v. Kim Jung-il or any of our other enemies that Obama vows to have "dialogue" with? Moonbats heads would explode.

Liberalism is a disease.

For progressives to suddenly complain about this suggests they either haven’t been paying attention to Obama’s core values, or have conveniently decided to only remember them now in order to beat him over the head.

These people actually have the nerve to call themselves "progressive"? The fact of the matter is that this country has moved forward since it's inception, that's the proof of true progress.

True progress does not reside within the moral relativism of the Utopian minded.

These self proclaimed "Progressives" are the Radical Left and the Lunatic Fringe.

Should we follow Rev. Wright's example and scream "God Damn America for the Progressives"?

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They have been desperately trying to delegitimize Fox since it's creation. It's not like Fox is all that great. Or even that conservative. Which just shows how much the left has to hide. And how afraid they are of the truth.

There's no justification for their outrage.

Fox in the chicken roost?

Don't trust Obama!

Just words?

AmeriKKKa!

Obumble and his muttering minions.

What a happy mess!

Fox spelled backwards is Xof. X off!

/See?

The irony here is completely off the scale. These are people who advocate speaking with our real mortal enemies, enemies who chant “Death to America” and kill American soldiers and civilians, but they’re unyielding when it comes to ... Fox News?

They are afraid of their own deaths - not anyone else's. The real terrorists are so frightening they can't handle it, so they come up with a straw man that will never hurt them and do battle against that. It's safe, and gives them a pretend heroism to paper over their cowardism.
That's the quality of their courage. Like the guy who smacked around a girl in a wheelchair.
Very dangerous though. Like dictators, a la Saddam, they always need a wide buffer zone of safety. Saddam was always killing someone suspected of disloyalty. Afraid he'd be killed by them so he struck first. What else do moonbats want? Fewer people out there to consume resources they want for themselves ...

re: #152 kynna

I just spent about 30 minutes looking through the posts at The Open Left. Not one example of why these useless children hate Fox News... but... HOLLY $#!+... they really are getting their little diapers all wadded-up over this. This country is becoming more divided than ever before, and at a much faster rate.

And now... I'm going to go find me a FOX NEWS bumper sticker for my car.

re: #139 Merovign

I just read a lefty blog where the writer was berating Obama for not calling Fox News "liars" in the interview. The writer went on to say that Fox news always lies about Obama and asserts that Fox claims that Obama is a Muslim. I watch FNC all the time and never once heard anybody on Fox say Obama was a Muslim. Also I remember my liberal friend who insisted that Bush lied about WMD. I went to some trouble to explain and give examples as to how Bush could have been mistaken on this subject, but there was no evidence that Bush knew, or possibly could have known that there were no WMD in Iraq. Therefore he couldn't have lied. My friend said that being mistaken was the same as lying. No he really said that.

You can appear on any program you want and sound respectable, but what matters is the facts on the ground, so to speak. Obama outspent Clinton In Pennsylvania 3 to 1 but still lost significantly enough, due in no small measure to concern about him among his own party as being an empty suit of limited accomplishment if any. Imagine a general election and a more independent group of voters.

Currently, Billary is doing the equivalent of taking Obama's temperature rectally, and the man has no solid response, except to take his beating, whining.

To summarize, he appears weak. If he cannot stand up and stand out to Hillary, imagine what Ahmadinejad and Kim will do with him, to say nothing of Putin? Not a pretty picture.

re: #154 Rancher

Fox spelled backwards is Xof. X off!

/See?

X on

X off

I think I see

Fox? Isn´t that the television channel being used, in between the commercials and the news, for government officials to receive their programming?

GORDON: But to the extent that Jack Bauer is an everyman -- he is a Customs agent; he is an INS guy -- I mean, he really is the guy who I think stands for that American can-do thing.

RUSH: Right. The audience hopes we've got thousands of them out there doing what he's doing.

GORDON: Right.

When television is being used to instill delusions of moral superiority over ordinary citizens into government officials, then it is state television, even when it is not state funded. And anyone who values surveillance higher than sovereignty, or is harbouring the programming of such delusions, would indeed be an exceedingly strange bedfellow.

But why should the Hawaiian anthropologist not talk to them?

re: #91 gman

Markos "Screw 'em" Moulitsas is also a secret agent according to a former kosling.

Bookmarked that link. Thanks! The little Bismarck of the Bay Area was astoundingly prophetic when he desribed the CIA as "a very liberal institution" over a year before it came out with the statement Ahmadinejad had abanoned his ambition for nuclear apocalypse.