Yes.

Most definitely.

He already has - in a very big way.

Absofreakinglutely.

Nice job, dems.

Yep.

Not by himself, perhaps. But with all his supporters? Definitely.

I say we just roll everything back to the Victorian era and start over. We're going backwards anyway, and at least we would all be more polite....

re: #7 paxnhymn

I say we just roll everything back to the Victorian era and start over. We're going backwards anyway, and at least we would all be more polite....

And the architecture was lovely....if not my taste.

There's a poll for you Charles. My vote is that Obama already has set back race relations.

re: #8 loppyd

And the architecture was lovely....if not my taste.

why, good morning, madame.

/bows.tips hat

:-D

Rev jerkoff on FOX news right now. Somebody should slap him.

Blatant, nasty, despicable racism, acceptable in the public sphere again.

eck

re: #11 VegasRick

Rev jerkoff on FOX news right now. Somebody should slap him.

which one is that...let's see...that could be Wright, Jackson, Sharpton, Robertson,

A real danger.

But, as Obama is half black and half white,

both of us groups could disown him,
that might be a way to salvage some civility here.

Yep - the MSM said that we shouldn't pay attention to Clinton's bimbos because they were ugly lower class trailer trash. That's enlightened.

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he, and the Rev. Hate, yes, absolutely they have IMO.

re: #11 VegasRick

Rev jerkoff on FOX news right now. Somebody should slap him.

Let Wright Wrant. The more people see the better.

What's with the "will" - he already has and has had his good friend and self-confessed "spiritual advisor" doing his best to divide the races as well.
Oh and BTW, for y'all who didn't hear it, the Racist Rev said, twice, that he's Obama's Pastor. Maybe the Racist Rev forgot he's retired? Or maybe he's telling the truth.

Looking at it from across the pond - yes.
I could imagine riots breaking out if Obambi doesn't get the candidature in Denver - and if he does, riots when he loses the election.
Thats how its looking to me - I hope I may be dead wrong.

Champion a rapist and the ultimate cad (use them and lose them) to further an end to sexism.

Now, champion the worse kinds of racist ideas to prove they aren't racist.

Thanks MSM.

Temporarily, yes.

But since the bad craziness will eventually die when exposed to the light, in the long term, race relations will improve.

Admit it... most of us had no idea how widespread these ugly beliefs are in the black community, and these ideas need to fade into extinction in order for any real healing to happen. The more they come out now, the sooner they can be demolished.

He already has.

There is very little that is productive about the dialogue on hate [thanks to Rev. Wright] that we've been having.

It remains to be seen what will happen in the Dem primary, but barring Saviour Hussein's election then and in the general, I don't think we will see a liberal black president in this country. Too many connections with black supremacy groups, a la "Reverend" Wright to be viable.

re: #17 jcm

Let Wright Wrant. The more people see the better.

yeah, I am thinking that Osama's people are wishing he would just shut up & go away. this "in your face stuff" is going to kill Hussein's chances.

This guy Wright is like the gift that just keeps on giving. I almost threw up in my mouth when listening to some of his blather this morning. But whatever, the more he keeps on talking, the more and more likely it is that rational America will wake up to this nonsense and not allow it to ascend the highest office in the land.

I also find it interesting some in the media are speculating that Wright is doing what he is doing so that if Obama does lose, he'll be able to prove some point about how America really is racist. Which to me is just as nuts as the man himself.

i absolutely believe that he will set back race relations by a generation. it's already become a race issue in the law schools.

Speaking of Obama and Wright, anyone else catch this?

Breaking News: Pastor Wright wants to be Vice President (SEE CNN.COM at noon EDT)

This morning, 9am EDT, Reverend Jeremiah Wright hinted not once, but twice, that he would like to be considered for Vice President of the United States of America.

re: #26 taxfreekiller
Excellent advice my friend, excellent.

Younger people might not be aware, but there was a time, back in the early nineties, that feminist principles like opposition to sexual harassment in the workplace (including consensual sexual relations between people of widely disparate power relations) were viewed with opprobrium, and even made subject to civil law suits.

Younger people might not be aware of WTF that word means.

re: #30 Honorary Yooper
OH PULEZZZE have the Dem's nominate Obama and have Obama pick the Racist Rev as his running mate - PLEEEEEZE!

re: #30 Honorary Yooper

Speaking of Obama and Wright, anyone else catch this?

PUKE!

re: #10 paxnhymn

why, good morning, madame.

/bows.tips hat

:-D

Good Morning, Suh.

/curtsy

re: #29 Kefirah

i absolutely believe that he will set back race relations by a generation. it's already become a race issue in the law schools.

Lets not give him all the credit. He has a whole truck load of help from the likes of Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpy Sharpton.

re: #30 Honorary Yooper

Where can I donate to that campaign?

re: #30 Honorary Yooper

Speaking of Obama and Wright, anyone else catch this?

That'll surely sink the Obama campaign.

re: #30 Honorary Yooper

Speaking of Obama and Wright, anyone else catch this?

Rev. Wright... first minister of the US National Church.

re: #33 realwest

OH PULEZZZE have the Dem's nominate Obama and have Obama pick the Racist Rev as his running mate - PLEEEEEZE!

Heh. If that happened, McCain would make Obama look worse than Mondale up against Reagan.

re: #32 Ben Hur

WTF IDK this opprobium AFAIK.

re: #30 Honorary Yooper

Complete and utter madness

Pray for our country

re: #35 loppyd

Good Morning, Suh.

/curtsy

Ah sweah, ahl nevah be hungrah again.

He has already done that. Exposing the hatred of these "black' churches , thank you. And demonstrating a deep strain of lunacy and feelemindedness in the congrgations and ministry.

As a white man I would vote for any number of black men or women who shared my values. JC Watts? No problem. Condi? Sure, even though I don't like the way she handles the Middle East. Powell? Of course. No worries.

But Mr. Obama? No way. Why? Because he's a Socialist in the vein of Marxism.

Am I sick of Leftists telling me I'm a racist because I don't support their Socialism which supposedly is color blind? Yes. Yes, I am.

Am I sick of some black people who are outright racist? Hell yes I am.

Give me a black person, in public office, that is pro-America, pro-commerce, pro-defense, and isn't a racist and I'll vote for him or her ANY time. Period. It's about values. It has nothing to do with the color of my skin. Shame of "Progressives" for using race as a vehicle to push their Socialis agenda.

re: #40 Honorary Yooper

Heh. If that happened, McCain would make Obama look worse than Mondale up against Reagan.

these folks are REALLY out of touch with reality...

re: #18 realwest

Heads up, realwest. Some nasty weather coming your way.

re: #43 debutaunt

Ah sweah, ahl nevah be hungrah again.

frankly my dear....I don't give a damn.

Wright to Obama: 'Coming after you'

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright said Monday that he will try to chance national policy by “coming after” Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) if he is elected president.

The pastor also insisted Obama “didn’t denounce” him and “didn’t distance himself” from Wright’s controversial remarks, but “did what politicians do.”

Wright implied Obama still agrees with him by saying: “He had to distance himself, because he's a politician, from what the media was saying I had said, which was [portrayed as] anti-American.”

Wright, who was Obama’s pastor for 20 years and performed his wedding, made the explosive comment during a chaotic question-and-answer session at the National Press Club in Washington, following the pastor’s remarks about the black church in America.

“I said to Barack Obama last year, ‘If you get elected, November the 5th I'm coming after you, because you'll be representing a government whose policies grind under people,’ Wright said.

Wright is mondo crazy, much worse than we thought until now.

Good luck with that, Bambi.

re: #45 antishock8

You just said what most of America is thinking....

It is why Obama not only won't win, but he can't win.

re: #33 realwest

OH PULEZZZE have the Dem's nominate Obama and have Obama pick the Racist Rev as his running mate - PLEEEEEZE!

McCain's campaign would be so simple... just stand on a stage, smile serenely, and hold up a picture of the two of them. He wouldn't have to speak a single word!

In the short term, yes.

In the longer term, though, it is the best thing that could happen. Americans of all races will clearly realize that Obama and his candidacy are the result of a condescending double-standard enforced by the liberal establishment and its corporate propaganda arm, the mainstream media. If a fellow beneficiary of tokenism like Geraldine Ferraro can see it, it's a sure thing normal people can.
The result will be an erosion of the double-standard and an end to tokenism. It will be the Second Emancipation: Millions of black Americans will move off the liberal plantation and finally take their rightful place as full participants in American society.

re: #48 loppyd

frankly my dear....I don't give a damn.

A fine gemin you all turned out ta be.

re: #19 yma o hyd

Looking at it from across the pond - yes.
I could imagine riots breaking out if Obambi doesn't get the candidature in Denver - and if he does, riots when he loses the election.
Thats how its looking to me - I hope I may be dead wrong.

I've been saying the same thing. And this could have been planned. My guess is that Wright's ties to the Nation of Islam will help provide the agitators.
We live in interesting times.

(But Obambi? He's no dear to me; he's an Obamanation)

speaking of being hungruh....

lunchtime!

BBL

I believe "race" relations have been set back not only between whites and blacks...but between other minorities as well. You can't have Obama's followers endorsing virulent antisemites, having one as his pastor, etc., and not think that Obama doesn't share these views (during the Press Club meeting, Wright went on and on about his friendship/admiration for, etc., Louis Farrakhan...a virulent and avowed antisemite.)

I think he already has.

You mean Barack Obama will be the Gerraldien Ferraro of this election cycle? Oh my. Like a millstone about the neck.

re: #49 Yankee Division Son

Wright to Obama: 'Coming after you'

This shit is more hilarious than the infamous Dean Scream! It get's better by the day. We have NOTHING to worry about except what the RINO will do once elected....

well, that's quite a bit in itself...

re: #30 Honorary Yooper

Oh yes!

Let's start the OBAMA-WRIGHT '08 campaign now.

Obama & Wright in '08
Cuz it's right to hate!

re: #26 taxfreekiller

This Obama thing just could be an ambush, remember, the Democrats are "commies" now at the top, and no longer looking for what is good for America, they now are about the commie take over of it all.

Walk careful now America, watch for signs in along the trail.

The way the MSM was fawning over Obama, we never would have seen the giant bear traps in the trail if it weren't for bloggers.

re: #59 Anna

You mean Barack Obama will be the Gerraldien Ferraro of this election cycle? Oh my. Like a millstone about the neck.

Obama will be the Mondale.

re: #32 Ben Hur

Younger people might not be aware of WTF that word means.

There's a Catholic prayer, kinda like the benediction prayers, that includes the word opprobrium. I've only heard it prayed at the conclusion of pro-life Masses, usually after a procession to an abortion mill. The line goes something like, "Jesus Christ, loaded down with opprobrium".

Ears? same old leftie feel-good "lookee! I voted for a black man, making me so non-racist!" BS. Rev. Hate-Whitie? looks like he's in the same category as Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson et al.

There are still places where ugly race-hate happens, but not enough to keep this many race-baiting reverends fed and living in expensive houses. So Al, Jesse, and now Jerry, are keeping the wounds open. Hey, beats honest work.

Democratic party leaders are openly concerned Democratic voters will not unify after a nominee is chosen.

I love it!...If Obama is the nominee, then many blue-colar, moderate Dems will vote for McCain, If Hillary gets the nomination, chairs will fly at the convention and many black voters will stay home on election day.

Either way, it works for McCain.

re: #40 Honorary Yooper
Yup and don't forget we're talking about John McCain doing that! Ya know, the John McCain who criticised the ad we North Carolina Republicans want to use - tying in Obama and Wright - without even ever seeing the ad.
Sigh. What a dismal prospect this election for POTUS has become.

re: #45 antishock8

Agreed as a recently-reclassified-as-a-white-because-I-achieve -in-college person.

re: #53 Shiplord Kirel

Or maybe people will realize that Wright is Right and we'll all be singing Kumbaya by the fire in the next 20 years.

//

I am not sure if this has been mentioned. It seems that Rev Wright has gotten some threats against his personal safety, or so they say. And guess who his body guards now are? Why gentleman from the NOI--The Nation Of Islam?

re: #63 debutaunt

Even better, would mean Obama would get Minnesota and DC, McCain the rest of the country.

re: #65 amphibian

Ears? same old leftie feel-good "lookee! I voted for a black man, making me so non-racist!" BS. Rev. Hate-Whitie? looks like he's in the same category as Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson et al.

There are still places where ugly race-hate happens, but not enough to keep this many race-baiting reverends fed and living in expensive houses. So Al, Jesse, and now Jerry, are keeping the wounds open. Hey, beats honest work.

The content of their character has been kicked aside.

re: #40 Honorary Yooper

Heh. If that happened, McCain would make Obama look worse than Mondale up against Reagan.

Worse than McGovern vs Nixon.
And then we'll all hear what racists we are - from the racists.
I'll be a riot.

re: #69 Nevergiveup

I am not sure if this has been mentioned. It seems that Rev Wright has gotten some threats against his personal safety, or so they say. And guess who his body guards now are? Why gentleman from the NOI--The Nation Of Islam?

NOI....Nation of Ignorance/Nation of Islam?

re: #66 Ringo the Gringo

Sounds like Howard "The Scream" Dean is running scared right now.

There are fair certain number of bad, crazy ideas circulating in many black communities. (e.g. Farrakhan's rants about "Jew doctors inject AIDS into black babies," five percenters; assertions that black people cannot be racist; Afrocentrist assertions that ancient black Egyptians invented airplanes, etc.). And, until recently, it's been all but off limits to point out the badness or craziness of any of it.

But, it's hard to see how it's in anyone's interest that bad, crazy ideas should be shielded from the harsh light of criticism. Or to understand how hiding these things from the light of day is going to enhance race relations.

Is it the author's opinion that shielding black racists from criticism somehow improves race relations?

re: #66 Ringo the Gringo

Democratic party leaders are openly concerned Democratic voters will not unify after a nominee is chosen.

I love it!...If Obama is the nominee, then many blue-colar, moderate Dems will vote for McCain, If Hillary gets the nomination, chairs will fly at the convention and many black voters will stay home on election day.

Either way, it works for McCain.

I've saying for some time a floor fight at the (D) convention and McCain wins by mid 50% in popular vote and 48 states. (D)s lose the Senate and possibly the house.

A convention floor fight will damage the (D)s for years to come.

re: #72 savage_nation

Michael Steele is on my radar screen...

Indeed, with a little more national exposure.

re: #72 savage_nation

Michael Steele is on my radar screen...

Steele vs. Wright in the veep debates.......

re: #45 antishock8

I've said this before.
I don't pick (or reject) those I vote for on the color of their skin, but on the color of their ideas. And Obamnation's are pure red.

Wrights ego has tranformed him into a madman. The Dems still circle around him like he was a Saint, but the normal citizens see him as a lunatic in this for himself.

OT

Hi!

re: #66 Ringo the Gringo

Democratic party leaders are openly concerned Democratic voters will not unify after a nominee is chosen.

Better than that, Howard Dean is under the impression he has been elected emperor of the Democratic Party.

Same guy who disenfranchised Michigan and Florida, not to mention scheduling the convention for August, why should they even hold a convention, when Howie's going to thrash it all out by June?

(could ask the same of the Republican's I guess, nobody is going to much are about four days of balloons)

re: #45 antishock8

As a white man I would vote for any number of black men or women who shared my values. JC Watts? No problem. Condi? Sure, even though I don't like the way she handles the Middle East. Powell? Of course. No worries.

But Mr. Obama? No way. Why? Because he's a Socialist in the vein of Marxism.

Am I sick of Leftists telling me I'm a racist because I don't support their Socialism which supposedly is color blind? Yes. Yes, I am.

Am I sick of some black people who are outright racist? Hell yes I am.

Give me a black person, in public office, that is pro-America, pro-commerce, pro-defense, and isn't a racist and I'll vote for him or her ANY time. Period. It's about values. It has nothing to do with the color of my skin. Shame of "Progressives" for using race as a vehicle to push their Socialis agenda.

A story at WND has his campaign blogger as an avowed communist.....

This just gets interestinger and interestinger....

re: #52 stevieray True, true. BTW on your earlier post you said something to the effect that most of us (i.e., non-Black Americans) had no idea how deeply this hatred from Black America runs until the Racist Rev came along.
I agree with that in part and disagree in part. I agree insofar as the Racist Rev and his ilk (i.e., Jeremiah Wright and the Nation Of Islam) are concerned, but simply don't beleive that they are repesentative of the feelings of all or even a majority of most Black Americans.
And, regardless, we're not having reasonably intelligent conversations with Black Americans over Race Relations in this nation. We are being preached, and screamed at by a bunch of hateful newly rich folks, who NEED to keep preaching and screaming to stay rich.
And, so long as the Racist Reve believes that the US brought the 9/11 attacks on itself, that "dialogue" such as it is, isn't going anywhere.

re: #86 realwest
PIMF Rev.

re: #83 Hengineer

OT

Hi!

Hi to you also. Are you at sea?

re: #79 jcm

Considering that people might have thrown racist remarks (and corresponding snack items) at Steele, I wouldn't consider Wright the outright winner of that debate...

re: #68 laZardo

Agreed as a recently-reclassified-as-a-white-because -I-achieve-in-college person.

re: #53 Shiplord Kirel

Or maybe people will realize that Wright is Right and we'll all be singing Kumbaya by the fire in the next 20 years.

//

I doubt it. I don't see wright as a touchy, feely guy.

re: #85 eschew_obfuscation

A story at WND has his campaign blogger as an avowed communist.....

This just gets interestinger and interestinger....

Sorry....forgot the link

Jeremiah Wright's motives in this seem to have nothing to do with Obama at this point. For him, it's all about Jeremiah Wright.

He laid low for a while, and avoided public comment, but apparently it suddenly dawned on him that this was the chance he had always been hoping for to get attention for himself with his endless drivel against White America and his claims of victimhood. It must have been beyond his wildest dreams to ever be standing before that huge gathering at the NAACP, equating his claimed victimhood with the crucifixion of Jesus, and getting a standing ovation for it - from whites as well as everyone else.

And even some of his worst detractors in the news media were offering excuses for him based on victimology - that he felt unfairly treated and was just trying to have his say. The truth is that this was an opportunity for him too good to pass up.

We have another Al Sharpton on the loose.

rev wright has opened the flood gates of hate. all his ugly psuedo-science abt. the physical differences in brains and consequent thinking btw the races, will be used and built upon by true racists everywhere. imagine what nazis will do w/ this, to push their agendas. does wright even know what he is doing? is he such a fcking uneducated moron he believes this stuff. this is a foolish man, creating a dangerous set of circumstances. hate begets hate. he is not a christian, he is a devil.

re: #36 Nevergiveup

oh, absolutely. sole credit doesn't belong to one individual.

and while i'd like to think that this whole mess would encourage discourse, i think the middle east situation has taught us that once ideas such as these are firmly entrenched, it can be very, very difficult to uproot them.

Rev Wright is the opprobrium of the masses.

re: #68 laZardo

Or maybe people will realize that Wright is Right and we'll all be singing Kumbaya by the fire in the next 20 years.

//

You mean all us white slaves will be singin' while we're around the fire after picking cotton?

It's not Obama who will set back race relations in America, it's all those typical white folks bitterly clinging to their guns and religion while inhabiting their white comfort zones of privilege who reject Obama's uplifting message of hope & change who will set back race relations.

Honky!

re: #62 Kosh's Shadow

The way the MSM was fawning over Obama, we never would have seen the giant bear traps in the trail if it weren't for bloggers.

Personally, I saw that something was up when I first read a transcript of one of Ears's speeches. Lot of words, no substance. I first put it down to the man being an empty suit. But then I learned of the private high school, and the Harvard Law School. You don't have a history like that without having some intelligence (wisdom is a different matter, of course...). This implied that Ears had something to hide. And then the bits that peeked through during the unscripted moments, well, those were just good old-fashioned nightmare fuel.

I'd call the words about popcorn for the Democratic Party convention, whistling as one walks past the graveyard. If this commie is elected, we may have to replace "we survived Carter" with "we survived Obama" when we talk about how things could be worse.

'Because their hero, Barack Obama, will not separate himself from his former pastor, they choose not the solution of abandoning their hero. No, instead, they are compelled to make a new hero of, and treat like a rock star, a bigoted, paranoid scientific ignoramus.'

. Obama / Wright '08

Inextricably linked with the profane Jeremiah 'It's in the Bible' Wright, Sen. Obama will go down to 'bitter' defeat.

re: #81 savage_nation

Jeremiah is on the veep list? yikes

Link in the last thread...

re: #90 opnion

I doubt it. I don't see wright as a touchy, feely guy.

He's a real screamy, yelly kind of guy.

re: #84 itellu3times

Better than that, Howard Dean is under the impression he has been elected emperor of the Democratic Party.

You don't elect emperors. The Lady of the Potomac, her arm clad in shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur-microphone from the bosom of the waters.

a new slogan for the chosen one:

"It's Okay to Hate! Obama '08"

re: #103 Kosh's Shadow

have i mentioned that i love you?

re: #88 pat

Hi to you also. Are you at sea?

yep, still "on station" in the Indian Ocean

re: #97 savage_nation

He's a damn Muslim. Fuck him.

LOL, i like your succinct style.

re: #101 jcm
What about the rule restricting electors from voting for a President and Vice President from their home state? Illinois electors would be forbidden from voting for both parts of the Democrat ticket if Obama and Wright is it.

re: #104 redc1c4

a new slogan for the chosen one:

"It's Okay to Hate! Obama '08"

Change for Hate! Obama 08!

re: #86 realwest

I'm not interested in "dialogue" with racist ideologues like Wright.
I'm not interested in "dialogue" with white supremacists or neo-Nazis.
They are exactly the same to me, and their worldviews are so depraved and their "logic" is so twisted that I see no point in "dialoguing."
Jerry Wright and Bill White should run on the same ticket.

all this and they will still end up handing Shillary the nomination due to their own incompetence...

hilarious!

re: #103 Kosh's Shadow

You don't elect emperors. The Lady of the Potomac, her arm clad in shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur-microphone from the bosom of the waters.

Look, if I went around claiming I was Emperor, just because some moistened tart lobbed a scimitar as me, they'ld put me away.

When Reverend Wright speaks
An audience full of freaks
Smell something that reaks

Koskid: How Rev. Wright Brought Me to God

Had I been raised in the TUCC tradition, a Black Church experience exemplified by Jeremiah Wright, I might well have been a Christian.

If this represents "elitism", if this represents the experience of Barack Obama, then he should never "disavow" this brilliant man who led him to his religion.

The questions Wright raises, the history he uncovers, the religion he represents will only be offensive to the narrow, cold, practitioners of European Colonial theology.

Change!

Actually, the idea that there's a "problem" between the relationship between blacks and whites is utter Bullshit.

The only problem that exists is some race-hustling povery pimps, such as Wright, Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, etc., need to keep perpetuating that myth to retain what little influence they have, so they whip up the masses of blacks who have screwed up their lives by making poor choices, and telling them over and over from the pulpit and other places, that it's not their fault.

It's the fault of the mean ol' USA, and of course, us bitter gun-toting, bible-reading typical white people who are holding them down and shutting them out of the American dream.

Until they start making better decisions, such as deciding that getting an education isn't "acting white", and that having kids out of wed-lock at about an 80% rate is the quickest way to a lifetime of misery, poverty and welfare, and that getting a job, any job, is the only way to better yourself, they'll be perpetually dependent upon people who do not have what's best for them, but rather only look to hold on to their power by telling them over and over that they're victims of racism.

They are victims, but not of us typical white people, but of their own bad choices and by listening to people who do not want them to better themselves and realize that the American dream is there for EVERYONE, not just white people.

Once the majority of black Americans realize that it's their so-called "leaders" that have sold them a bill of goods for the last 4+ decades that has kept them miserable, they'll be able to start to fix their problems that they, and no one else, caused.

Unfortunately, we're probably years away from that happening.

re: #68 laZardo

Agreed as a recently-reclassified-as-a-white-because -I-achieve-in-college person.

re: #53 Shiplord Kirel

Or maybe people will realize that Wright is Right and we'll all be singing Kumbaya by the fire in the next 20 years.

//

No, in that case, we will be IN the fire. There is precedent ("Jew doctors injecting AIDS...."). I don't think it will happen.

One thing that might happen is some kind of left-wing Reichstag Fire event. This would be an assassination or other terrorist outrage that would be blamed on "white racists." In fact, given the drooling insanity of creatures like Bill White and the implications of the Red/Brown alliance, it is possible that white racists might be the actual perps.

re: #53 Shiplord Kirel

If I have never said this before, I cherish the vast majority of great minds opining here.

Your posts are always excellent.

re: #105 Kefirah

have i mentioned that i love you?

Don't tell my wife.

re: #109 Hengineer

Change for Hate! Obama 08!

hope and hate! obama 08

re: #112 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

and i love you, too.

sad to say, though, it isn't some lakebound bird with a magical blade that's anointed dean or obama.

it's a mass of people. and that in and of itself is scary.

re: #108 zmdavid

What about the rule restricting electors from voting for a President and Vice President from their home state? Illinois electors would be forbidden from voting for both parts of the Democrat ticket if Obama and Wright is it.

It's the (D) ticket... what rules?
/

Link in the last thread about Wright hinting at the slot.

my magic 8 ball says definately yes

re: #119 nyc redneck

hope and hate! obama 08

Hope and Hate, but don't Hate the Change? Obama 08?

re: #92 krypto

Jeremiah Wright's motives in this seem to have nothing to do with Obama at this point. For him, it's all about Jeremiah Wright.

It's all about this - he's clean, and articulate - and nucking futs.

obama is already a divider - things could get much uglier

re: #116 Shiplord Kirel

No, in that case, we will be IN the fire. There is precedent ("Jew doctors injecting AIDS...."). I don't think it will happen.

One thing that might happen is some kind of left-wing Reichstag Fire event. This would be an assassination or other terrorist outrage that would be blamed on "white racists." In fact, given the drooling insanity of creatures like Bill White and the implications of the Red/Brown alliance, it is possible that white racists might be the actual perps.

Now, if the NOI guys turned on Wright, but blamed it on some guy in a sheet....

Is it lost on everyone that Christianity was imposed on them by their European masters?

re: #124 Hengineer

Hate! Do the Wright Thing! Obama '08

BTW, it's good to see you online. How are things in your neck of the woods?

re: #117 formercorpsman

If I have never said this before, I cherish the vast majority of great minds opining here.

Your posts are always excellent.

(Blushing) Many thanks. Were you a Navy corpsman? If so, thank you for your service and especially for the corpsman who saved my life with a well-placed tourniquet back in 1972. You might be him for all I know.

No. He already has set back race relations, which is a pretty extraordinary thing to do considering his bi-racial bono fides, which is probably the only thing about him that has been checked. He threw his white grandmother (who raised him) under the bus, while his bestseller was about the dreams of his black African communist father who abandoned him. Obama, by virtue of being an unvetted Democrat candidate for President of the United States, has given credibility to this racist Black Liberation ideology in just by his years of attendance listening to such drivel expounded upon by Wright, much less his paying for it through donations.

I still won't vote for him

re: #129 Ben Hur

Is it lost on everyone that Christianity was imposed on them by their European masters?

Don't be silly, Jesus was black, and carried much of his tribal wisdom to the Italians.

re: #132 Shiplord Kirel

Yes, of the Navy type, green time mostly.

Can't take credit for helping you, in 1972 I was 4 years old.

I try to read all the posts, but some I always take time to read.

You are one of them.

Good stuff.

re: #114 Killgore Trout

Even Moses had to have told to him which God it was Who was speaking to him from the burning bush........doesn't seem that either Obama or Wright has that same One.....

re: #47 BulgarWheat
Whoa! No lie - it just passed over us - I think we musta got about an inch of rain in 20 minutes or so!
Fortunately no lightning, though!
You and yours doing ok my friend?

re: #135 itellu3times

Don't be silly, Jesus was black, and carried much of his tribal wisdom to the Italians.

You mean the "garlic nosed Italians" stole it from Jesus.

re: #137 Ma Sands

Even Moses had to have told to him which God it was Who was speaking to him from the burning bush........doesn't seem that either Obama or Wright has that same One.....

Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name!

Obama's circle has done quite a job of acquiring the street cred.

If folks don't remember early on, he did not have any market share of the black vote.

I think as quickly as it has come to him, as quickly it can go.

If we are measuring what can happen, the simple fact that he, his wife, and his little girls are sitting inside that church, listening to this on a weekly basis tells me the problem is here, it is not one sided, and we all have our heads in the sand.

It is a shame, really, when our presidency is reduced to a bully pulpit, literally.

The Audacity of Hate, The Audacity of Wright, the Audacity of the Obamaphenoma, the Cluelessness of the Press Corps. The answer is, YES!

re: #130 Kenneth

Oh pretty busy, on our way from one UNREP to the next. Gotta give fuel to a ship that just arrived out of the med through the Suez (nope, not gonna tell you who =-P )

Obama claims that all white people are inherently racist, including his grandmother. The Dem's imply that those whites that don't vote for him are racist. Those that do must be doing so out of guilt.

Intolerance, socialism, antisemitism.

Welcome to the ObamaNation

re: #140 itellu3times

No kidding? :) And what did your folks give to you as a middle name?

re: #110 wolfie I never said I wanted a dialog with the Racist Rev and if you've read ANY of my many comments about white fascists you'd know I don't want any "dialog" with them, either.
I would like a calm, as rational as possible, discussion with Black Americans of the non-politician, non-Race Hustler types to try to understand what they feel, and believe, about the United States.
We've never had that, certainly not as a nation and, IMO, rarely in one-on-one discussions. But I do think it would help BOTH Black Americans and White Americans understand each other much better.
Whether or not such understanding would work to a better United States I'm not sure, but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to have it.
As for the Racist Rev (Wright), Sharpton, Jackson, et.al. (the "Race Hustlers") I have NOTHING to discuss with them and need not hear any more from them; without racial acrimony they are out of a job.

I was more than a little revealing to listen to the Reverend Jeremiah Wright speak at the National Press Club this morning, two FOI (Rukns?) standing behind him, clarify the message that Obama has nurtured himself upon. Race relations in America have been set back 50 years by this jive talking signifying playground hustler preacher Wright and his (his churches?) sock puppet candidate, Barack Hussein Obama . It only remains to be seen if "there will be blood". The only amusing thing about the whole situation is watching the Dem pundits trying to polish a fart in the middle of a shitstorm.

re: #138 realwest

bouncing around this morning. had to run mom over to the doctors this morning. she's having a lot of trouble keeping food down. was able to take her back home though.

she's had a rough month

re: #143 Hengineer

Oh pretty busy, on our way from one UNREP to the next. Gotta give fuel to a ship that just arrived out of the med through the Suez (nope, not gonna tell you who =-P )

Umm... is it big scary and does it have lots' of flying things with pointy bits that go "Boom" on it? Sweet.

God bless you and keep safe!

But the media told me he made a very important speech on race and what a racist his grandma is.And we just used to worry about stepping on a crack and break your grandmas back.So that bus he drove over her back must hurt real bad.

re: #147 gymnast

"I" should have been "It" as the first word of the post.

re: #149 BulgarWheat
A rough month, indeed. I sure hope she feels better soon my friend.
Let me know if there's anything I can do.

re: #30 Honorary Yooper

Speaking of Obama and Wright, anyone else catch this?

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat link! Thanks Yoop!

As far as I'm concerned, Obama and his pastor are racists and have indeed setback race relations at least 45 years (my approximate lifetime). This whole mess now has me wondering, "Do my black friends secretly hate me? For nothing but the color of my skin/eyes/hair? That's just as sick and ignorant of the white hatred of 100 years ago."

It's really very sad.

I just went out to run an errand at lunch, a left-leaning radio talk show had a caller who was making the argument that the the Rev. Wright "problem" was only an issue for the Dem nomination, but it would help Obama in the general, because evangelical voters on the right favor religious candidates.. the host (Jim 'the red' browdy) of the program agreed!

I nearly drove of the road laughing... talk about spin!

re: #156 Yankee Division Son

I just went out to run an errand at lunch, a left-leaning radio talk show had a caller who was making the argument that the the Rev. Wright "problem" was only an issue for the Dem nomination, but it would help Obama in the general, because evangelical voters on the right favor religious candidates.. the host (Jim 'the red' browdy) of the program agreed!

I nearly drove of the road laughing... talk about spin!

As said above watching the Dems trying to polish a fart in the middle of a shitstorm is amusing.

re: #155 Kirly

As far as I'm concerned, Obama and his pastor are racists and have indeed setback race relations at least 45 years (my approximate lifetime). This whole mess now has me wondering, "Do my black friends secretly hate me? For nothing but the color of my skin/eyes/hair? That's just as sick and ignorant of the white hatred of 100 years ago."

It's really very sad.

i've also wondered if my close black friends have animosity toward me. i feel they do not.. i feel that in my heart. and some asshole like rev wright is not going to disrupt genuine good friendships btw the races, no matter what the hateful bastard says.
i think the problem is, by preaching black separatism, he can sequester and manipulate people easier and indoctrinate them w/ his own poison.

re: #157 gymnast

As said above watching the Dems trying to polish a fart in the middle of a shitstorm is amusing.

Big time! Well said!

Ask Bill Clinton - he'll tell you:
"I did not have race relations with that woman!"

re: #93 nyc redneck

rev wright has opened the flood gates of hate. all his ugly psuedo-science abt. the physical differences in brains and consequent thinking btw the races, will be used and built upon by true racists everywhere. imagine what nazis will do w/ this, to push their agendas. does wright even know what he is doing? is he such a fcking uneducated moron he believes this stuff. this is a foolish man, creating a dangerous set of circumstances. hate begets hate. he is not a christian, he is a devil.

The Rev is all of that, but most of all Jeremiah was a Bullfrog. LOL.

#22 Stevieray

I learned how widespread those beliefs were in the black community as a college freshman in 1986, where I heard my black roommate and her friends REGULARLY refer to each other as "n*****" (and that word was for friends as well as foes), and to fellow blacks they did not like as "ashy," "nappy" and "bluegum."

When I asked her why they would call each other n*****, when my mother would have washed my mouth out with soap had I spoken the word, she told me (in no uncertain terms) that they could call each other anything they wanted. But I couldn't.

I learned then (at 17) that despite my guilt-ridden, white suburban upbringing that taught that white people are the oppressors of everyone, and that butter would not melt in the mouth of the poor, put-upon oppressed around the globe, that there is absolutely, positively a double standard. The oppressed can say whatever they want about each other, about other oppressed people, and about white people. I think a lot of white support for Obama comes from people who had a similar education to mine - people who have been taught to think that white people are bad and that black people are entitled to be angry. I have a hard time expressing what I'm trying to say, but it's almost like guilt-ridden liberal white people give black people a pass out of patronizing them, thinking that the white people know better, so they can't be racists, but black people are either simpletons or babies who can't possibly be held accountable for their feelings.

Compare Wright to Martin Luther King Jr. Wright is a rambling loose cannon, whereas Dr King was exacting and dignified in his speech. Wright insinuates disrespect for whites, whereas Dr King treated people with the common decency they earned as people of good will, no matter who they were.

Go back and read MLK's "Letter from Birmingham Jail" as a corrective to Wright's bomb-throwing over the past few days. In the "Letter," Dr. King addressed 8 white Christian ministers who objected that he was organizing protests "too soon" against Birmingham's failure to act in either striking down ordinances allowing separate/unequal treatment of blacks, or in creating new ordinances that disallowed such treatment.

Dr. King addressed the 8 white ministers respectfully, as Christian brothers first, then proceeded quite patiently, precisely, and compellingly to show them how they were wrong. He showed that he was truly interested in the power both of peace and of logical persuasion.

Oh how far we have regressed from that approach today, if Wright is in any way now held up as some kind of modern exemplar.

"I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Indeed.

From MSNBC Obama's ex-pastor hopes controversy sparks race in America dialogue.

I think you could say it has done that. I can't imagine he thinks this helps BO.

I wonder if Wright`s ever heard of this man, The Lion of Whitehall, the original Cassius Marcellus Clay

I've seen too many Americans, for way too long, saying the vilest of things, embracing the craziest of beliefs, joining the most radical of groups, and advocating the most evil of collective actions, as if the Constitution didn't exist or didn't matter, as if the Civil War was never fought, as if the Tuskeegee Airmen never flew, as if Freedom Riders never existed, as if Martin Luther King never dreamed, as if Rodney King never said this stuff has got to stop.

And as if, according to some, the USA had no real external enemies, nor internal ones, except for our own duly elected government, capitalism, Jews, carbon emissions, and melanin-challenged people.

It is imperative that we carefully consider Obama's expressed sentiments and those of his supporters in such issues.

The HIV/AIDS...
1) Virus is only transmitted thru exchange of bodily fluids. Sex, transfusions, dirty needles

2) Celibacy for singles, faithful monogamy for married, no drug use, blood transfusion screenings = no transmission

3) So, then ... a population would have to be engaging in practices that lend themselves to transmission of this particular disease.

It's not like the ariborne flu which is easy for anyone to simply inhale.

HIV/AIDS came out of Uganda. Infections rocketed up for a while, then with the implementation of education pushing change in behaviors and practices of 2) above, infection rates have fallen.

It's one of those things - yell it loud and fast, before people can consider the claim and then ask ... Mr. Wright, what exactly are YOU saying about Blacks?