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Demonstration Against Rev. Wright at National Press Club

Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:52:25 am PDT

This Ain’t Hell has good photos and video of the demonstration outside the National Press Club this morning: Jeremiah Wright at the National Press Club.

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1 coquimbojoe  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 11:52:57am

Good, the tables are slowly turning....

2 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 11:54:27am

Bunch of racists....
/

3 zmdavid  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 11:55:23am

These protesters are obviously racists attacking the Black Church.
/

4 Ma Sands  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 11:56:40am

re: #1 coquimbojoe

Ah....where's that video, "And slowly I turned...."?

5 winston06  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 11:57:05am

Good

6 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 11:57:56am

I admire the black guy who had joined their protest. Blacks get a lot of crap from the bomb throwers when they go against the orthodoxy of perpetual complaint and victimization. The only reason that Obama is not rejected by the orthodoxy is that he co-opted it by joining Wright's church for Southside Chicago Street Cred.

7 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 11:58:37am
8 markx  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 11:58:58am

I wonder if he even saw them.

Probably entered by the 'servant's' entry (as O'bambi did in San Francisco last week)

9 JamesTKirk  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 11:59:04am

re: #3 zmdavid

These protesters are obviously racists attacking the Black Church.
/

10 winston06  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 11:59:14am

Look, there are two, three african-american gentlemen. wow!

11 coquimbojoe  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 11:59:35am

re: #4 Ma Sands

Ah....where's that video, "And slowly I turned...."?

Hi Ma! I have to say I was very glad to see the people protest weren't Hillary's people and not all of them were white. I wonder why some of Write's supporters though it pertinant to yell 'Long live Palistine'? What does that have to do with anything?

12 JamesTKirk  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 11:59:36am

re: #3 zmdavid

[Link: www.nickadamsweb.com...]

13 Ma Sands  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:00:04pm

re: #3 zmdavid

Really? Love those two big black guys there! :)

14 coquimbojoe  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:00:05pm

re: #11 coquimbojoe

Goodness gracious, PIMF!

15 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:01:17pm

Even MSNBC sees the damage that Rev. Wright is inflicting on Obama's campaign:

There's still plenty of room under the bus, Senator Obama

*** You’re so vain, you probably think this campaign is about you: After addressing the NAACP yesterday in Detroit, Jeremiah Wright travels to the heart of the media beast -- the National Press Club in DC -- where he has been speaking this morning. At this point, no matter one's political inexperience, Wright has to know he's not helping his friend; his decision to go public and defend his reputation at this point in the campaign is doing nothing to help Obama, if anything, it's leading some to believe he's actually trying to sabotage him. He's hurting him and hurting him very badly. Frankly, it’s as selfish of a move as we've seen in some time. Imagine, for example, if Norman Hsu or Vicki Iseman were doing publicity tours right now. Maybe, if there's a silver lining for Obama, he's giving Obama a very easy chance to simply walk away. Remember, Obama didn't toss Wright under the bus, but Wright appears to be doing that to Obama’s candidacy. Still, if Wright Vol. 1, “bitter,” and Pennsylvania didn’t move superdelegates, what will? Nevertheless, Obama seems to be starting off this week in about as bad of shape as we've seen in him in some time.

16 Ma Sands  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:02:24pm

re: #11 coquimbojoe

Utterly, utterly without reason....the whole thing....

17 looking closely  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:03:31pm

Wrightm isn't running for public office, and clearly he loves the attention.

Meanwhile Obama is stuck with this albatross around his neck, since he refuses to dissociate himself from Wright.

As I see it, the more Wright foams at the mouth, the worse for Obama.

18 yochanan  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:04:00pm

G-D DAMN REV WRIGHT

19 rabidsquirrel  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:04:05pm

re: #10 winston06

Look, there are two, three african-american gentlemen Uncle Toms. wow!

Remember: If you're black and you don't bow before the church of the Obamamessiah (or his "spiritual mentor"), you're betraying the entire race.

20 winston06  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:04:42pm

re: #18 yochanan

Amen

21 DesertSage  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:04:46pm

This entire Obama/Wright fiasco is making me very bitter.

22 looking closely  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:05:26pm

re: #18 yochanan

G-D DAMN REV WRIGHT

Now, now. . .

I wish nothing for Wright but lots of open microphones and lots of people listening real carefully to what he's saying.

23 winston06  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:05:30pm

re: #19 rabidsquirrel

I was talking about the navy vet and the other freeper. it is so cool to see them there.

24 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:05:33pm

re: #18 yochanan

G-D DAMN REV WRIGHT

Right now I'm cheering Rev. W. Obama's patching hole in his campaign, REv. W is running around chopping more.

25 Ma Sands  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:05:49pm

re: #21 DesertSage

Hullo, Sage......fires still leaving you alone?

26 Thanos  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:05:54pm

You need to watch the video - lady chanting "Long live Palestine" wearing a Keffiyeh.

27 Roger  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:06:05pm

re: #19 rabidsquirrel

Same for Jews

28 winston06  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:06:14pm

re: #26 Thanos

She is a terrorist

29 Doug  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:06:19pm

It was a religious service.

They all went to church together.

St. Chomsky of the Chicken Roost.

30 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:06:26pm

Look at them clinging to those signs.

31 rabidsquirrel  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:06:51pm

re: #21 DesertSage

This entire Obama/Wright fiasco is making me very bitter.

Quick. Cling to something.

32 winston06  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:07:04pm

re: #31 rabidsquirrel

lol

33 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:07:16pm

Mr. KarateKicker should go before a judge, what he did with his faux punches and non-connecting kick is in some places is the equivalent of pointing a gun directly at someone.

/evil whitey etc

34 rabidsquirrel  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:07:46pm

re: #27 Roger

Same for Jews

Sadly enough, that is true.

35 P. Aaron  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:08:10pm

Those "protesters" are at the wrong place. There's probably a Charter School for impoverished inner city children opening somewhere nearby that they were supposed to protest against.

/sarc.

36 galloping granny  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:08:44pm

re: #17 looking closely

Wrightm isn't running for public office, and clearly he loves the attention.

Meanwhile Obama is stuck with this albatross around his neck, since he refuses to dissociate himself from Wright.

As I see it, the more Wright foams at the mouth, the worse for Obama.

Look, even if he had disassociated himself from the get go from this stooge, the fact still remains and cannot be erased that he has sat and listened to this man's hateful screed 52 weeks a year for twenty years - more than 1000 times! There is no way that any claim that he "didn't know about Wright's views" could hold the first drop of water.

In fact, Obama clearly agrees with Wright, no matter what his mouth says. He has had his precious children indoctrinated into Wright's hateful and hate-filled philosophy from the day they were born!

37 BulgarWheat  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:09:04pm

I wonder how much was generated by wright mocking JFK's accent. Sure, we have Mayor Quimby on the Simpson's for a reason, but teddy and caroline went to bat for BOH.

Silly Liberals!

38 irongrampa  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:09:08pm

I fail to see HOW you can change the context of "God D### America for anything but what it is.

39 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:10:44pm

I really do like the one sign that reads "Wright's an OBAMAnation". That one made me smile it did.

40 rabidsquirrel  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:10:44pm

re: #37 BulgarWheat

I wonder how much was generated by wright mocking JFK's accent. Sure, we have Mayor Quimby on the Simpson's for a reason, but teddy and caroline went to bat for BOH.

Silly Liberals!

But you repeat yourself...

41 DesertSage  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:10:44pm

re: #25 Ma Sands

Hullo, Sage......fires still leaving you alone?

Hi Ma, so far so good. Every couple minutes a plane or helicopter flies directly over my house an shakes the foundation. They're flying really low. 95° today.

42 Roger  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:10:49pm

re: #37 BulgarWheat

The Unrev doesn't give a damn.

/Except for damning America

43 snowcrash  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:10:58pm

I think its win/win situation for Rev. Wright. Obama wins and Wright has direct access to the President. Obama loses and Wright continues his career of creating fame and fortune blaming the white man for the ills in Black society. Any attention is good attention for the opportunistic Rev. Wright.

44 winston06  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:11:36pm

re: #43 snowcrash

Hopefully it won't happen

45 galloping granny  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:12:10pm

re: #37 BulgarWheat

I wonder how much was generated by wright mocking JFK's accent. Sure, we have Mayor Quimby on the Simpson's for a reason, but teddy and caroline went to bat for BOH.

Silly Liberals!

Dollars to Donuts Obama himself can do a mighty fine pahking of the cah in Havahd yahd when called upon to do so, after all the years that he spent there.

46 rawmuse  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:12:20pm

There ARE some sane people left. Thank God. I was beginning to wonder.

47 yochanan  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:12:31pm

DOUBLE STANDARDS bug the s''' out of me

and black racism is one of the most ignored bigotry out there sort of like liberal anti semitism.

48 looking closely  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:12:51pm

re: #36 galloping granny

Look, even if he had disassociated himself from the get go from this stooge, the fact still remains and cannot be erased that he has sat and listened to this man's hateful screed 52 weeks a year for twenty years - more than 1000 times! . . .


You don't have to convince me. Nothing Obama says can erase his decades long association.

That's not my point. The point is, the more noise this clown Wright makes, the worse it is for Obama.

So I say grab the popcorn and let him keep blabbing on. Let *everyone* see EXACTLY what kind of lunatic Obama has been hanging with for 20 years, is STILL hanging with, and let them see it every day until the election.

49 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:12:53pm

Wrights's OBAMAnation

50 Ma Sands  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:13:54pm

re: #41 DesertSage

I read yesterday, that they figure to have the fires way under control in "two to three days"........sure hope so.

51 DesertSage  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:14:07pm

Didn't the Rev. Wright just move into a typical lily white upper class neighborhood?
Doesn't that now make him part of the establishment?

52 Endangered in MASS  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:14:20pm

re: #45 galloping granny

He sent one of his staffers back right before he announced to pay all his unpaid parking tickets.

53 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:15:09pm
54 Dad O' Blondes  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:15:12pm

...Remember, Obama didn't toss Wright under the bus, but Wright appears to be doing that to Obama’s candidacy.... re: #15 Dirk Diggler

Yep. Dat's da troof. N I wuv it.

.

55 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:15:26pm

I learned a few threads back that i iz 2 unedjukated to blog corrxly and that Mr. Wright iz beyond my int-lectual grasp.

But I still think the man is a disgrace who uses communism (liberation 'theology') and race for self-promotion and to divide good American people. I think most people, regardless of their intellect, regardless of whether they take Mr. Wright's statement's out of context, regardless of whether they can understand the subtlety of his oration, know the man is asinus stultissimus.

56 Ma Sands  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:16:13pm

re: #52 Endangered in MASS

Hmmm.....Keith Ellison, IIRC, didn't even bother to do that much.....

57 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:16:14pm

I was listening to Rush, and he made a very good point about Rev Wright. If Obama wins the nomination then it's bad news for JW. He can't keep selling his brand of racist hate anymore because JW needs Obama to loose to keep him in business so he can use it as an example of being right all along.

58 Ojoe  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:17:29pm

God bless them.
God bless the guy with the sign that says U.S.A. is not the enemy.
God Bless America

59 yochanan  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:17:55pm

i don't trush obama as far as i can throw him

60 Killian Bundy  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:18:00pm

You ever notice how protesters on "our" side almost always have nice, professionally printed signs with properly spelled words?

/whereas the moonbats' signs always look like they turned a two year old loose with a box of crayons

61 galloping granny  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:19:03pm

re: #52 Endangered in MASS

He sent one of his staffers back right before he announced to pay all his unpaid parking tickets.

HAHAHA! Somebody should get proof of that. Public information in MA.

62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:19:13pm

re: #60 Killian Bundy

You ever notice how protesters on "our" side almost always have nice, professionally printed signs with properly spelled words?

/whereas the moonbats' signs always look like they turned a two year old loose with a box of crayons

Or they have the mass-produced factory made signs provided by their corporate backers

63 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:19:17pm

re: #59 yochanan

i don't trush obama as far as i can throw him

I wouldn't want to trush Obama myself, I doesn't sound pleasant.

64 chukardog  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:20:27pm

Only in Amerika, which is now Bizzaro land could Barry "Barrack" Obama actually be a legitimate candidate for POTUS. Maybe They can exhume Karl Marx, clone him and run him as Barry's Veep.

65 incanus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:20:39pm

re: #60 Killian Bundy

You ever notice how protesters on "our" side almost always have nice, professionally printed signs with properly spelled words?

/whereas the moonbats' signs always look like they turned a two year old loose with a box of crayons

It's hard to be coherent when you are high.

66 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:21:33pm

re: #60 Killian Bundy

You ever notice how protesters on "our" side almost always have nice, professionally printed signs with properly spelled words?

/whereas the moonbats' signs always look like they turned a two year old loose with a box of crayons

I need a font that adjusts the kerning and font size so the words get increasingly crowded the closer they get to the right margin.

67 Ma Sands  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:22:08pm

re: #60 Killian Bundy

That'd make a good editorial cartoon idea: something to show, with the good side's friendly, intelligent-looking faces, neatly dressed, clean :) looking......them having the best signs to illustrate what America is, whereas the other side represents what America would be dragged down to.....

68 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:22:25pm

re: #64 chukardog

Only in Amerika, which is now Bizzaro land could Barry "Barrack" Obama actually be a legitimate candidate for POTUS. Maybe They can exhume Karl Marx, clone him and run him as Barry's Veep.

Marx is way to over qualified to run as the #2 on that ticket.

69 Venezuela lover  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:22:43pm

Racist Farrakhans bodyguards protecting Wright. It's in the last inning and Obama is fading faster and faster.

Obama has only tax-payer funded Secret Service agents at his side. But the Rev. Wright is now accompanied by Nation of Islam henchmen, in stark contrast to the security detail visible during the Pope’s recent visit. How odd that a Christian pastor requires the security protections of Islam... Wasn’t it Islamic Jihadists who attacked our nation not so long ago?
70 rabidsquirrel  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:22:48pm

re: #51 DesertSage

Didn't the Rev. Wright just move into a typical lily white upper class neighborhood?
Doesn't that now make him part of the establishment?

More prima facie evidence that he's integrating the races...right?

71 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:24:04pm
72 Charles  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:24:44pm

re: #15 Dirk Diggler

Even MSNBC sees the damage that Rev. Wright is inflicting on Obama's campaign:

There's still plenty of room under the bus, Senator Obama

That's if you believe Obama has no contact with Wright and hasn't approved his speeches ahead of time.

I think it's quite possible he's being coached on everything he says right now.

73 galloping granny  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:25:02pm

re: #69 Venezuela lover

Racist Farrakhans bodyguards protecting Wright. It's in the last inning and Obama is fading faster and faster.

Reports have it that Obama used campaign funds to pay a pretty high powered firm to represent Wright of late. I wonder if he is paying for the NOI goons too?

74 SummerSong  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:25:10pm

Sick as I am of everything Rev Wright,

I hope that this hot light of attention shines on him for a very long time. No hiding beneath the cover of "the black church". HE must be held responsible for his own words.

75 yochanan  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:25:54pm

trust
spell check is your friend

76 tappin52  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:25:58pm

I would like to hear Obama's definition of Black Liberation Theology and why he felt compelled to participate in this religion.

77 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:26:27pm

Some jack ass on Fox just said Obama is a "bridge builder"? Can someone please tell what freaken bridge Obama ever built? When did he reach across the isle to the Republicans? On what Issue? What exactly has he compromised on?

78 Ma Sands  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:26:45pm

re: #71 taxfreekiller

Wow.....that's the first time I've heard that expression --but I see it is well documented.... :)

79 alegrias  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:28:01pm

re: #77 Nevergiveup

Some jack ass on Fox just said Obama is a "bridge builder"? Can someone please tell what freaken bridge Obama ever built? When did he reach across the isle to the Republicans? On what Issue? What exactly has he compromised on?

* * *
BHO's Bridge to Nowhere.

(Bill Clinton vowed to build the bridge to the 21st century, remember!

80 wanumba  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:28:19pm

Took a look over at AMerican Thinker at Obama's Voluntary compulsary national service plans.
He wants Peace Corps to be doubled in size and be open to other nationalities. Apart from the point that it's to get Americans out there, a different perspective CAN be useful, even at the village level, any country that has a population inclined to volunteering already HAS a volunteer corps, modelled on Peace Corps. England, Canada, Japan, Denmark and so forth. Even the United Nations has the U.N. Volunteer program (UNV), though as one would suspect, their pay looks more like a real salary and it's really entry level. A problem with such systems is that Peace Corps in the USA as an option means GIVING UP the cushy life for a while. In another country, as in most Third World countries with high unemployemnt, it's a PLUM JOB. Heck, in Europe, an international posting even on what we would consider a low salary is a great deal, too. Their unemployment rates are high, too. It makes for an odd mix - idealistic Westerners versus someone with high, usually family connections. It would also be a sneaky way to insinuate more jihadis around - shifty regimes using their rolls to get pay and relocation for their radicals.

Obama is soaked in what is already screwing up the schools, FORCING kids to "volunteer" in busy work, called "community service," which like all the other prison terms that schools have adopted, like "lock-down" and "weapons screening," is actually a term that means a legal punishment of "community service hours" in lieu of jail time, but in the schools is supposed to be enriching "volunteering."

Sum of it - the impression is that Obama wants to enslave the entire productive population of the United States via forced labor at bureaucrat-concocted work. It would of course devastate real volunteering.

ANd all this talk about an international Peace Corps with other nationalities is a sign that Obama is a Global Man, a ONE World Government Guy. He bee-bopped around the globe, he has no real affinity for the USA as a nation, and has easily bought into the borderless world. Isn't that what the no flag pin issue is really all about? He thinks global, not national. He would not protect AMerica's right to be an independent nation.

The scary thing about Obama is that he's young enough to keep running for President for the next two decades easily.

81 The Other Les  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:28:36pm

re: #77 Nevergiveup

Some jack ass on Fox just said Obama is a "bridge builder"? Can someone please tell what freaken bridge Obama ever built? When did he reach across the isle to the Republicans? On what Issue? What exactly has he compromised on?

Folks on other side of aisle speak with forked tongue.

82 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:28:48pm

re: #76 tappin52

I would like to hear Obama's definition of Black Liberation Theology and why he felt compelled to participate in this religion.

He already told us that. If you don't understand then you must be a racist bigot. Line forms on the right.

83 godfrey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:29:42pm

re: #80 wanumba

a ONE World Government Guy

Ding ding ding.

84 EC Marm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:30:14pm

Just finished making a "Wright Wing Conspiracy" bumper sticker. Don't expect to sell any, but at least I get to vent.

85 tappin52  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:31:15pm

re: #82 Nevergiveup

Oh, sorry. (sheepishly going to end of line on right)

86 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:32:03pm

re: #77 Nevergiveup

Some jack ass on Fox just said Obama is a "bridge builder"? Can someone please tell what freaken bridge Obama ever built? When did he reach across the isle to the Republicans? On what Issue? What exactly has he compromised on?

A bridge to the dustbin of history, where socialism resides.

87 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:32:15pm

re: #64 chukardog

Obama was a media fabrication from the start. I was a front page News Week article that tipped me off to that with their "Who's Next?" article from 2004. It had a whole fluff piece on Obama being the next president . I had never heard of him before that.

88 Ma Sands  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:32:26pm

re: #83 godfrey

Amen. If not this way, then in an even worse one.

89 OldLineTexan  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:32:53pm

re: #71 taxfreekiller

"Guilty dog always barks first."

Of note:

Rev. Wrights sermons, sort of bark like.

In Texas, it's

"The hit dog hollers the loudest".

90 loppyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:32:54pm

Just got this newsflash from NY Times email alert:

Politics: As Wright Speaks Out, New Problems for Obama?

Well, DUH.

91 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:33:07pm

re: #80 wanumba

That, I think, hits the nail on the head - and is another reason why us folks outside the US are so interested in this election.

It would also explain why someone like Soros chose to support him: he is empty and can be filled with all sorts of supra-national ideas, well scripted by people who do not have the interests of either the USA or any other nation in their minds.

92 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:33:25pm

re: #72 Charles

That's if you believe Obama has no contact with Wright and hasn't approved his speeches ahead of time.

I think it's quite possible he's being coached on everything he says right now.

And you're not the only one, Charles. While you were typing this, I found this from The Illinois Review and placed it in the spinof links.

Rev. Wright’s Traveling Circus

Could this latest round or Obama’s nightmares be preplanned? We have seen he is not beyond such political tricks- think back to the fainting supporters earlier in the campaign. The situation always followed the same script- and I do mean script. Five events, five fainters, five times Obama reacts the same way- right down to his words. Are the latest of Wright’s antics more of the same?

It's quite possible Mr. Wright (I refuse to use the honorable term "Reverend" for the man) is working for Obama in this capacity to stir up the progressive base.

93 DesertSage  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:33:37pm

re: #70 rabidsquirrel

More prima facie evidence that he's integrating the races...right?

Or...he's just a hypocrite.

94 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:33:38pm

re: #7 taxfreekiller

I wonder why he didn't get a SE Asian Holiday...

95 OldLineTexan  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:34:09pm

It's obvious (to me, a Typical White Person) that the sudden Wright blitz is indeed an Obama campaign creation.

/may they reap what they sow

96 irongrampa  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:34:12pm

Mentioned once before that Obama may become a victim of the Vast Wright Wing Conspiracy--hopefully, that was more prophetic than I realized.

97 Endangered in MASS  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:34:18pm

re: #61 galloping granny


It was in the papers. Howie Carr was all over it.

98 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:34:44pm

re: #87 Egfrow

Obama was a media fabrication from the start. I was a front page News Week article that tipped me off to that with their "Who's Next?" article from 2004. It had a whole fluff piece on Obama being the next president . I had never heard of him before that.

In 2004?

Blimey.
They had four years to coach him ...

99 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:34:46pm

re: #73 galloping granny

Reports have it that Obama used campaign funds to pay a pretty high powered firm to represent Wright of late. I wonder if he is paying for the NOI goons too?

Or is Libya paying for the NOI goons - and helping Obamanation?

100 Venezuela lover  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:35:10pm

re: #84 EC Marm

Just finished making a "Wright Wing Conspiracy" bumper sticker. Don't expect to sell any, but at least I get to vent.

Nice, I wish I had a car bumper to put one on.

101 leboaz  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:35:30pm

Calm down folks. Can't you see that there's instant credibility with the likes of Marion 'crack head' Barry in attendance.
What a bunch of losers
Now Wright is promoting his new book. Gee

102 Dad O' Blondes  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:35:49pm

re: #72 Charles

That's if you believe Obama has no contact with Wright and hasn't approved his speeches ahead of time.

I think it's quite possible he's being coached on everything he says right now.

Well, yes...but...to what end?

Seems like the right PR approach to this would have been:

1. "out of context"
2. Now hide and shut up.
3. Obama says something about global warming (or anything)

News cycle is all Wright and Obama is nowhere to be seen with poll numbers in Indiana plummeting.

.

103 rabidsquirrel  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:35:56pm

re: #93 DesertSage

Or...he's just a hypocrite.

Well, yeah, there is that.

104 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:35:58pm

re: #92 Honorary Yooper

It is also possible that the Obama campaign has decided to go all Wright all the time, so by the time the General Election comes later in the year it is all ol d news. People might be numb to it by then. Not us, but some.

105 ted  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:36:17pm

After watching transcripts and video's of Wright at the NAACP and NPC, I have come to the conclusion he alone has severely damaged much progress made in civil rights; particularly for Afro-Americans.

Tragic.

106 loppyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:36:22pm

Heading home now. This cold is kicking my barometer.

Have a good afternoon, Lizard Nation!

107 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:36:24pm

re: #80 wanumba

The scary thing about Obama is that he's young enough to keep running for President for the next two decades easily.

My worst nightmare. This guy is my age. I can't bear the thought of him popping up every 4 years like Pat Paulsen until I'm living in The Villages.

108 alegrias  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:36:32pm

re: #80 wanumba

* * *
That's right Wanumba. No little US flag pins for these folks, not on their life!

Many Americans are now POST USA-loving, or even not-USA-loving transnationals. They embrace the GLOBAL village, especially its gangstas like Hugo, Ahmedinejad and their role models Fidel & Che & Arafat with his little chequered keffiyeh (barf).

PS, on the metro ride an hour ago I met a young boy who was sightseeing DC on this rainy day with his Big Brother volunteer--a US soldier who's been to both Iraq & Afghanistan. On his time between deployments, this young man was taking his charge to the Smithsonian museums and to see the Air & Space Museum!

God bless those who love our country & down tear it down.

America, Love it or Leave it --a great slogan then and now.

109 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:36:46pm

re: #92 Honorary Yooper

Well well well!
I would not be at all surprised.

And I'm with you for calling That Man 'Mr wright' - he's no Reverend in my books either.

110 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:37:27pm

re: #98 yma o hyd

In 2004?

Blimey.
They had four years to coach him ...

When he keynoted the '04 (D) convention it was obvious the party was putting him on the front tier.

111 mean Gene  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:37:28pm

Jeff Gannon was correct about Wright making up Bible verse.
I caught at least one......can't remember what it purported to be.
Am the wife of a long time minister, now retired.
And I know my Bible.
He made up a verse almost as bad as the one Nancy Pelosi runs with every Earth Day.

Link to transcript and I will find it.

112 EC Marm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:37:31pm

re: #100 Venezuela lover

Nice, I wish I had a car bumper to put one on.


At $3.50 a gallon for gas and $4.50 for diesel I'm biking it myself anymore.

113 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:37:32pm

Well - I just figured it out. Took me long enough ...

Wright is painting a big fat target of himself for Obama to publicly condemn.

It will be a Potemkin controversy. One that allows Obama to renounce Wright un-categorically.

114 Ma Sands  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:37:42pm

re: #98 yma o hyd

Except they forgot to tell him to never mind the caricatures of his ears, until after the campaigning had begun..... :)

115 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:37:48pm

re: #104 Nevergiveup

It is also possible that the Obama campaign has decided to go all Wright all the time, so by the time the General Election comes later in the year it is all ol d news. People might be numb to it by then. Not us, but some.

Another good point, and point taken. Air the dirty laundry now while Barry is ahead against Hillary, then bury when against McCain. Call me a cynic, but that seems to be the MSM MO.

116 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:38:33pm
117 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:38:35pm

re: #100 Venezuela lover

Nice, I wish I had a car bumper to put one on.

What' your car doesn't have bumpers?
;-P


I figure you mean you don't have a car.

118 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:39:01pm
119 galloping granny  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:39:03pm

re: #111 mean Gene

Jeff Gannon was correct about Wright making up Bible verse.
I caught at least one......can't remember what it purported to be.
Am the wife of a long time minister, now retired.
And I know my Bible.
He made up a verse almost as bad as the one Nancy Pelosi runs with every Earth Day.

Link to transcript and I will find it.

The transcript is posted at Fox - linkie at top left of first screen.

120 godfrey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:39:03pm

re: #91 yma o hyd

EUropean world government ideas.

By the way, "soros" in Hungarian means "next in line, successor."

121 alegrias  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:39:14pm

re: #87 Egfrow

Obama was a media fabrication from the start. I was a front page News Week article that tipped me off to that with their "Who's Next?" article from 2004. It had a whole fluff piece on Obama being the next president . I had never heard of him before that.

* * *
Obama spoke at the dems 2004 convention. He was a newer, less French looking, less prune-faced liberal, but basically the same whine in a new bottle.

122 415woman  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:39:17pm

Who are all the people in the background, agreeing with Wright? Was this an open press conference? Or were his Nation of Islam bodyguards the one agreeing with him?

123 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:39:54pm

re: #91 yma o hyd

That, I think, hits the nail on the head - and is another reason why us folks outside the US are so interested in this election.

It would also explain why someone like Soros chose to support him: he is empty and can be filled with all sorts of supra-national ideas, well scripted by people who do not have the interests of either the USA or any other nation in their minds.

Soros thinks he won't get thrown under the bus, too.
Sorry, George; communism means they take from the rich and give to the politburo. And they take from the middle-class and give to the poliburo, and from the poor and give to the politburo.
It would be justice for Soros, but the rest of us would get screwed, too.

124 Da_Beerfreak  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:40:22pm

re: #80 wanumba

[Snip...]

"The scary thing about Obama is that he's young enough to keep running for President for the next two decades easily."

**************************

Why not?
We need someone to take Harold Stassen's place.

// {;-)™

125 ted  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:40:42pm

The espousal of racial theories on intelligence, ability etc. shows Wright to be a dangerous, delusional ignorant racist of the lowest form.

126 Ma Sands  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:41:00pm

re: #113 karmic_inquisitor

Now that is an interesting conclusion!

127 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:41:38pm

re: #122 415woman

Who are all the people in the background, agreeing with Wright? Was this an open press conference? Or were his Nation of Islam bodyguards the one agreeing with him?

That was pretty disgusting and also kinda like a cult.

128 redstateredneck  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:41:47pm

re: #98 yma o hyd

In 2004?

Blimey.
They had four years to coach him ...

He spoke at the DNC convention. They all but threw their underwear on the stage.

129 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:41:47pm

Let's see how Wright and the MSM turn these guys into the Klan.

130 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:41:57pm

re: #115 Honorary Yooper

Another good point, and point taken. Air the dirty laundry now while Barry is ahead against Hillary, then bury when against McCain. Call me a cynic, but that seems to be the MSM MO.

Can't see anything wrong with this assumption - makes sense to me, cynic that I also am ...

131 godfrey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:42:01pm

Jerry Wright is a huckster like any other. The focus here is on Obama, who was a sucka for it.

Obama isn't qualified for any executive office.

132 Ma Sands  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:42:02pm

re: #116 taxfreekiller

Aw, gee, tfk, what a guy! :)

133 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:42:38pm

I found this article about Obama from 2005:

After perusing the year-end (Dec. 27/Jan. 3) issue of Newsweek, I defy any editor there to deny this magazine is a mouthpiece for the political left. Their cover boy was Senator-Elect Barack Obama of Illinois, the "rising star," as the Democrats and so many admirers in the press have dubbed him.

But Obama wasn’t the only senator profiled in the magazine’s "Who’s Next Issue." After the loving cover story on staunchly liberal Obama, a "news" report authored by Jonathan Alter (usually their predictably leftist in-house columnist), Newsweek reporter Howard Fineman profiled staunchly conservative Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania. The contrast between the two stories, both in tone and in content, could not be more obvious.

Start with the headlines. Obama’s profile was headlined "The Audacity of Hope." Santorum’s was "Mister Right." One represented hope, while the other typified firm ideology. While Obama would "help his party relocate its moral core," Santorum was "hard at work spreading the GOP gospel," and his "crusades" might make him a White House contender. The divergent themes were already obvious: Obama would bring moderation and yet "spirituality" to the Democrats, while Santorum threatened the GOP and the country with religiously fervent right-wing dogma.

The photos framing the stories told a similar tale. Obama was shown on a Chicago rooftop with the caption "Skywalker." Santorum was shown in his office next to his picture of "Roman Catholic martyr Thomas More." On his office TV was a Fox News Channel graphic on schools excluding Christ from Christmas. The caption was "Bully Pulpit."

134 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:45:24pm

re: #120 godfrey

EUropean world government ideas.

By the way, "soros" in Hungarian means "next in line, successor."

That'll be EUrabian World Government then ...

Soros is very well remembered over here for nearly bringing the ££ to its knees with his currency speculations about 20 years ago, iirc - that was against the Tory government (when the Tories still were proper conservaties ...).

135 alegrias  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:45:54pm

re: #123 Kosh's Shadow

Soros thinks he won't get thrown under the bus, too.
Sorry, George; communism means they take from the rich and give to the politburo. And they take from the middle-class and give to the poliburo, and from the poor and give to the politburo.
It would be justice for Soros, but the rest of us would get screwed, too.

* * *
Soros as a Hungarian who should know how communists slaughtered Hungarians during the poor Hungarians' attempts to throw off the USSR's totalitarian regime of 50 years, was obviously a traitor against his own people's freedom then & now.

Soros is like Brezjinski--who knew or should have known what Totalitarians did to his mother country Poland--and like Carter--another willing to embrace the totalitarians against the US's interests. These people hate our hard won freedoms and think our liberty and truly Open Society *is a bad thing.

* versus Soros' Open Society, which is TOTALITARIAN Caliphatish

136 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:46:27pm

What does "Palestine" have to do with the Rev Wright debate?

She's yelling it at a Joo.

So, she really doesn't like, or probably even know anything about, or has ever been to, "Palestine."

She doesn't even know why she wants "Palestine" to live.

You can only assume she was doing it to show her hatred of the Joos.

137 opnion  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:46:31pm

Revered Wright so loves the Black Community that he is headed to an upscale White area.
It is a gated, golf course community. How would you like to get stick in. a foursome with him?

138 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:46:39pm

The other possibility is that this is planned to bring race riots.
Wright makes sure no thinking person will vote for Obamanation, and then when he loses, it "proves" we're all racist. NOI and the black victimhood churches stir up riots.
Various rich oil countries supply money to the poor disenfranchised blacks (NOI and Wright already have ties to Libya), and as things settle down, they get a bought and paid for bloc to vote for those who would bring Sharia to the US.

Maybe I'm exaggerating.

139 Roger  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:47:54pm

The Unrev says the non-existent Saddam WMD's were sold to Saddam by the USA.

140 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:48:41pm

re: #123 Kosh's Shadow

Soros thinks he won't get thrown under the bus, too.
Sorry, George; communism means they take from the rich and give to the politburo. And they take from the middle-class and give to the poliburo, and from the poor and give to the politburo.
It would be justice for Soros, but the rest of us would get screwed, too.

He thinks he'll be ok - he's supporting the new states which formed after the break-down of the Soviet Union.

Now there are a couple American guys who could take him on, wealth wise ... but they are probably too American to misuse their wealth to play politics with?

141 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:49:05pm

Did anyone else catch Wright's reference to "European Americans?" Between the exaggerated body language the pseudo intellectual tripe and fake biblical reference it's safe to say that this guy is off.

142 JustMyView  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:49:07pm

re: #73 galloping granny

Reports have it that Obama used campaign funds to pay a pretty high powered firm to represent Wright of late. I wonder if he is paying for the NOI goons too?

Just curious. Where did you hear that?

143 tokyobk  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:50:08pm

Rev Wright is probably no more than 40% African if that.

I am not saying ihe is not authentically "black." I am saying his genetic stuff is absurd and even on the culture side, many of the composites of what is taken as black American culture are Welsh, Irish, Scottish, ie Anglo-ethnic, as well as Native American. I am also from a Chigago Wright family (not sure if same one but mine is abotu same complexion) and they are as much Lakota as they are West African).

So, there.

144 looking closely  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:50:26pm

re: #80 wanumba
The scary thing about Obama is that he's young enough to keep running for President for the next two decades easily.


Not as scary as it seems. Obama's best chance is now.

In another 8 years Obama will actually have a national Senate voting record that will follow him around, and if he remains true to form, it will be the most liberal voting record in the Senate, rendering him unelectable.

Also, while the Republicans, as befitting a nominally "Conservative" party, traditionally require their candidate to run once and LOSE the nomination, before being granted it (McCain being a good example), the situation is the opposite for the Dems.

Usually they like a fresh new face to get the nod. Dems who lose the nomination process once generally don't get a second chance.

Unfortunately what this election does for Obama (even if he loses), is fill his war chest up to the brim, and gives him tons of national stature. He's now a shoe in for his State as Senator indefinitely, (or at least until de-railed by major scandal).

145 looking closely  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:51:09pm

re: #131 godfrey

Jerry Wright is a huckster like any other. The focus here is on Obama, who was a sucka for it.

Obama isn't qualified for any executive office.

Agreed.
Of note, Obama actually hasn't *held* any executive office.

146 CapeCoddah  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:51:33pm

WOW, between the woman yelling "Long live Palestine", and the random moonbat ranting incoherently, and kicking at the crowd like an idiot, you can just feel the eloquence, the intelligence, and the good will and love everyone attitude oozing of the Good Rev. Wright's and Senator Obama's supporters. Hillarys supporters, for that matter. All you have to do to sink these idiots is quietly step back, turn on the cameras, open the mikes, and let them speak to their hearts content...

147 415woman  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:51:53pm

re: #127 Nevergiveup

Well, I suspect a lot of the reverends parishioners are in a cult, the cult of victimization. You can't explain why the guy who is so anti-white American is being given a house in a gated, mainly white community and still have the brethren supporting him. He's leaving the 'hood, after all.

148 paxnhymn  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:52:22pm

re: #138 Kosh's Shadow

The other possibility is that this is planned to bring race riots.
Wright makes sure no thinking person will vote for Obamanation, and then when he loses, it "proves" we're all racist. NOI and the black victimhood churches stir up riots.
Various rich oil countries supply money to the poor disenfranchised blacks (NOI and Wright already have ties to Libya), and as things settle down, they get a bought and paid for bloc to vote for those who would bring Sharia to the US.

Maybe I'm exaggerating.

not too terribly far off. I still think Wright is setting himself up to be the third leg of the "we are oppressed, please contribute to my PAC" triumvirat, so as to set himself up for life! It's obvious he doesn't give a tinker's damn about hussein, but this will insure his face time and continued lifestyle lonnnng after he leaves his "church"...

149 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:52:31pm

I also like this part of the article:

Alter the "reporter" also added his own praise, with lines like "his expert grasp of foreign policy helped him bolt from the pack." In Santorum’s article, there were no wives or friends or favorable colleagues. Only one fellow GOP senator was quoted, anonymously chiding Santorum that he’ll need to say no to the conservative base to make legislation.

Obama was lauded as the "incredibly pragmatic" soul of civility who is "uniquely qualified to nudge the country toward the color purple" (merging the red states and blue states). He was all about "embracing our hybrid origins and transcending our often narrow-minded past."(Clinging) But Santorum was consistently described with violent undertones. His career has been a "bruising crusade" supported by anti-abortion "shock troops." He is a "cultural militant," and a "heat-seeking missile" with a "combatively devout approach."

150 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:52:44pm

re: #140 yma o hyd

Soros survived the Holocaust being taken in by a Nazi collaborator who was involved in confiscating Jewish property. He used to take young Georgie on his pillaging rounds.Soros is one of the most dangerous sociopaths on the planet.

151 Dad O' Blondes  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:53:53pm

For Dem Nomination.

This is still Obama's race to lose, and Wright is doing it for him.

I can't envision a scenario where the rants of Wright can help Obama. Even if Wright is being handled and message-managed by Obama-ites, I can't see how these screeds, masquerading as religious thought, can be parlayed into a PR victory by Obama.

This looks like a train wreck.

.

152 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:53:53pm

re: #137 opnion

Revered Wright so loves the Black Community that he is headed to an upscale White area.
It is a gated, golf course community. How would you like to get stick in. a foursome with him?

That would be right up there with being stuck on a four-hour bus ride next to a Code Pink member. Hell on earth.

153 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:54:38pm

re: #150 vagabond trader

Soros survived the Holocaust being taken in by a Nazi collaborator who was involved in confiscating Jewish property. He used to take young Georgie on his pillaging rounds.Soros is one of the most dangerous sociopaths on the planet.

Indeed.
Learned his trade - i.e. trampling over other human beings - by a master, a lesson he's never forgotten.

154 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 12:54:43pm

Christianity was imposed on slaves by their European American owners.

This is why they have to make it a "Black" Christianity, because otherwise, their whole existence is illegitimate.

155 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:00:36pm

Another interesting bit is the obsession Trinity has with blackism. Their online bookstore is a smorgasborg of historical revisionism, probably vaporized by now. One of my favorites is their proud insistance that the ancient Egyptians were all black.OK, if that is so, then how do they explain Egypt's enslavement of other humans.Sick sick folk.A cult imho.

156 mean Gene  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:00:36pm

re: #119 galloping granny

The transcript is posted at Fox - linkie at top left of first screen.

Thank you.
Yes.
The Proverb says (at 17:28)
Even dunces who keep quiet are thought to be wise;
as long as they keep their mouths shut, they're smart.

The Message ( paraphrased Bible version)

In word-for-word it actually says:
Even a fool keeping silence is reckoned wise, He who is shutting his lips intelligent! Young's Literal Translation.

Wright said it says:
[I]t is better to be quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

But he is confusing Mark Twain with Scripture!
He put it:
~ It is better to remain quiet and thought a fool than to open mouth and remove all doubt. - Mark Twain ~

Pretty sad.
I wonder if he knows what term Mark Twain used to refer to people of color? LOL

Or maybe he is mixing up Abe Lincoln with Scripture....because it is also attributed to honest Abe!

Or, maybe the writer George Eliot.
Or Ralph Waldo Emerson.
Or, or, or....

157 looking closely  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:01:29pm

re: #154 Ben Hur

Christianity was imposed on slaves by their European American owners.

This is why they have to make it a "Black" Christianity, because otherwise, their whole existence is illegitimate.


I don't follow that at all.

Either Christianity is legitimate or it isn't.

If so, it can be adopted.

If not, whatever religion preceeded it (African Spiritualism?) can be re-adopted to replace it, or another substitute can be chosen.

I'm probably not qualified to make the determination, but I would imagine that whatever strain of "Afrocentric" religious thought Wright is preaching, it probably can't be traced linearly back to either pre-Christian African belief or to slave-owners religious practice. It may have some elements of those beliefs (as any nominally Christian practice would with any other), but its probably significantly different and from a different "place".

158 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:03:38pm

re: #151 Dad O' Blondes

Never underestimate the idiocy of the fawning masses.HOPE you are correct tho.

159 The Other Les  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:03:48pm

re: #155 vagabond trader

Another interesting bit is the obsession Trinity has with blackism. Their online bookstore is a smorgasborg of historical revisionism, probably vaporized by now. One of my favorites is their proud insistance that the ancient Egyptians were all black.OK, if that is so, then how do they explain Egypt's enslavement of other humans.Sick sick folk.A cult imho.

They don't have a problem with chattel slavery (or socialism) as long as its someone else who being enslaved. They do have a problem with people who escape slavery, like the Jews. And they do have a problem with people who fight slavery, like Republicans.

160 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:05:23pm

Pink Floyd launches Pro Obama Flying Pig. Liberals suck so much!

161 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:06:36pm

re: #159 The Other Les

Oh absolutely. Along those lines is their reason "successful" minorities cannot be classified as minorities, Jews and Asians for instance.Man, talk about bitter.

162 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:17:32pm

re: #157 looking closely

Christianity has a long and noble history in Africa, starting long before much of Europe was Christianized. The Copts in Egypt, the early conversion of the Ethiopeans, entirely without force, and 3 African Popes.

163 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:21:43pm

re: #162 Kenneth

Christianity has a long and noble history in Africa, starting long before much of Europe was Christianized. The Copts in Egypt, the early conversion of the Ethiopeans, entirely without force, and 3 African Popes.

Yeah - and then what happened ...

164 godfrey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:22:04pm

re: #154 Ben Hur

Christianity was imposed on slaves by their European American owners.

This is why they have to make it a "Black" Christianity, because otherwise, their whole existence is illegitimate.

And that, of course, is complete nonsense and only serves to tie them more strongly than ever to their past slavery. Which is why guys like Wright trade on it so effectively.

165 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:23:35pm

Marion Berry, getting in a Mercedes-Benz R-class?

"Hey Marion, wanna buy some rocks?"

166 looking closely  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:23:53pm

re: #161 vagabond trader

Oh absolutely. Along those lines is their reason "successful" minorities cannot be classified as minorities, Jews and Asians for instance.Man, talk about bitter.

The word "minority" itself is somewhat slippery. To be a NON-minority does your group have to comprise greater than 50% of the population?

IE are Italian-Americans a "minority" or not? I think by any measure, they comprise only a small fraction of the population.

In Texas, Hispanics comprise greater than 50% of the population. So how are they "minority"?

Reminds of me that movie "Dukes of Hazzard", which I saw recently. Pretty atrocious movie, and I wouldn't recommend it, but it did have a few pretty wry parts.

In one scene, some bypassers called the Duke boys in their Confederate flag decorated car "rednecks", and then one of them replied "we prefer the term 'Appalachian Americans' ".

167 looking closely  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:26:24pm

re: #162 Kenneth

Christianity has a long and noble history in Africa, starting long before much of Europe was Christianized. The Copts in Egypt, the early conversion of the Ethiopeans, entirely without force, and 3 African Popes.


Interesting.

Though unless you think Reverend Wright's teaching falls into that tradition, I'm not sure how it applies to him!

If Wright were a run-of-the-mill Catholic, or even a Copt, this thread wouldn't exist, and nobody would be talking about him with respect to Obama.

168 Lively  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:29:23pm

re: #156 mean Gene

I heard another scripture mistake Wright made. In one of his answers (at the press corp), he referred to our government that is like a brood of asps.

Jesus was talking to the Pharisees in that passage, i.e. the religious leaders during his time. Jesus did not bother himself rebuking governmental officials while he was on earth (i.e. the Roman government).

Wright takes scriptures out of context and then accuses others as taking him out of context. I'm beginning to wonder if he even knows scripture.

Oh well, at least he's making lots of money.

169 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:35:43pm

re: #167 looking closely

It wasn't my point at all to defend the indefensible Rev. Wright. I was trying to say Christianity is an African religion, as much as it is a religion of any land. Wright does not "own" Christianity for African Americans.

170 nyc redneck  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:39:32pm

re: #125 ted

The espousal of racial theories on intelligence, ability etc. shows Wright to be a dangerous, delusional ignorant racist of the lowest form.

right now racist groups like the klan and nazis are working on how to use this crazy shit to cause trouble.
wright is a dangerous lunatic.

171 solomonpanting  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:43:36pm
People talk about how brave Wright is for speaking his mind, it doesn’t take bravery to parrot the standard line, Kevin and Cobie were the bravest two people on that sidewalk this morning for sticking to what they believe in the face of the biases of the spittle-slinging mad dogs who just applauded on cue to the weakly hidden racist remarks of an opportunist who found a way to bamboozle his flock.

Yesiree!
I love it...spittle-slinging mad dogs.

172 Shotor_e_Bozorg  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:43:50pm

re: #77 Nevergiveup

Some jack ass on Fox just said Obama is a "bridge builder"? Can someone please tell what freaken bridge Obama ever built? When did he reach across the isle to the Republicans? On what Issue? What exactly has he compromised on?

Maybe that bridge in Fallujah.

173 Red Girl in Blue Minnesota  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:45:00pm

re: #51 DesertSage

Just like Ayers and Dohrn, he reaps the rewards of the very capitalism they scorn. Those two also live in a very upscale neighborhood. Why aren't they all squatting in communal corrugated tin shacks and living the life of true socialists? Hmm?

I would like to ask that question of Bernardine Dohrn to her face, and then punch her.

Unbelievable.

174 brent  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:48:41pm
Some jack ass on Fox just said Obama is a "bridge builder"?

Obama is a bridge builder - who else could bring the extreme left and the fringe left together with such aplomb?

Maybe he's bringing the Marxists and the Nation of Islam kids together? Somebody had to do it, and bless him, he's their guy.


/Hillary is probably so worked up that she's drinking and dialing Bill...

175 HBob  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:50:08pm

Good Lord, I want to hug those guys. God Bless them.

176 Alibaba  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:00:46pm

Speaking of silly liberals, how is Chris Matthews dealing with this? We know he has a boy crush on Obama. re: #40 rabidsquirrel

177 nyc redneck  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:02:36pm

i can't imagine how osama or his handlers could possibly have signed on w/ what wright is doing. the crazy old uncle's rants just get worse and worse. he is strident, hateful, dangerous, divisive. a crass old bastard. and it seems he is purposefully trying to bring down his protege'. is he so resentful at having been 'let go' that he is hell bent on destroying osama's campaign.
it has become a three ring circus. what stupid disgraceful embarrassing fools. osama's squawking chicken has indeed come home to roost.

178 Alibaba  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:04:24pm

re: #173 Red Girl in Blue MinnesotaBernardine and Ayers are probably surrounded by security guards - although they claim they "love" and "understand" the People.

179 Alibaba  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:05:59pm

re: #172 Shotor_e_Bozorg
Obama also heaps total scorn on pro lifers and continues to defend his anti-life voting record. According to Hussein Obama, it is "all the fault of pro lifers". He really is creepy.

180 Alibaba  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:07:53pm

re: #165 Ward Cleaver
Then Marion will say that the "b word set him up."

181 offendi  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:08:02pm

Well while Wright threw Obama's campaign under the bus he still has a great future.

Consider a brokered democratic convention, that turns to... Reverend Wright. He does reflect a lot of their views on this country after all.

Or... when Libya's leader decides to retire he could fill Qaddafi's shoes. He's sufficiently loony to do so.

BTW, I still think Wright's new friends are named Clinton.

182 Red Girl in Blue Minnesota  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:14:21pm

Maybe if Barry wins the General Election, the Reverend Wright will swear him in.

Kind of like both of them saying "ha, ha!"

183 LeonidasOfSparta  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 5:08:11pm

Hugh Hewitt had his entire speech and the Q&A afterwards on his radio program that aired in Denver at 4pm. Who in the blazes sent that girl to ask the questions? She was NOT prepared, had NOT read his speeches, could NOT quote one thing correctly-- TwoWrongsWright made mincemeat out of her! Next time send in someone who is deeply read in Bible History and who KNOWS the exact words of that man.

He wiggled out of all the questions-- very nearly, with his smooth tongued villany and sophistry-- but one thing struck me as very very sad: He stated that HE answered to God, so he couldn't be a politician but he understood BHussein's stance as a politician and how politicians have to say whatever it takes.

Doesn't he think BHussein has to answer to God too? (rhetorical question only.)

As a pastor of a church, the REV should be telling his parishoners that THEY have to answer to God every day-- and even MORE SO, if they are in the government of this nation!

BHussein is a liar. He lies, lies, lies. And he learned it at the feet of the master (and I am NOT talking about Jesus.)

184 ctrlL  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 5:55:59pm

re: #181 offendi

Well while Wright threw Obama's campaign under the bus he still has a great future.

Consider a brokered democratic convention, that turns to... Reverend Wright. He does reflect a lot of their views on this country after all.

Or... when Libya's leader decides to retire he could fill Qaddafi's shoes. He's sufficiently loony to do so.

BTW, I still think Wright's new friends are named Clinton.

Over the past few days, I've come to the bizarre conclusion that Wright could be doing this purposely to INFLAME the black community. As repugnant as this seems, it also appears to be the only logical explanation to his continued vile 'speechifying', imho. Perhaps the Obama camp has some internal polling that shows an up tick in numbers after Wright's continued comments. ?
Your thoughts? anyone ...........
ctrlL

185 Flavia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 9:52:45pm
re: #11 coquimbojoe

Hi Ma! I have to say I was very glad to see the people protest weren't Hillary's people and not all of them were white. I wonder why some of Write's supporters though it pertinant to yell 'Long live Palistine'? What does that have to do with anything?

It has to do w/the fact that Wright supports Hamas (&, therefore, Jew-killing).

186 Ban Draoi  Tue, Apr 29, 2008 9:38:18pm

If there were true justice in this world, Bernadine Dohrn and her spouse would be strung up a la Mussolini, with nice neat round holes between the eyes -- and for good measure, a meat fork jabbed into her stomach with a note attached that says "we have not forgotten".


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