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Video - Rev. Wright: No Apologies for 'God D--- America'

Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:06:52 pm PDT

Jeremiah Wright is asked whether he will apologize to the American people for saying “God damn America.”

You probably already know his answer, but the patronizing, mocking tone is a bonus.

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1 BulgarWheat  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:08:03pm

The reverend just keeps on giving.

He's a giving kind of guy

2 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:08:13pm

Rev. I think you about worn out that shovel.
Here's a new one courtesy the wise ass serpents at LGF.

3 BulgarWheat  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:08:46pm

re: #2 jcm

most excellent line

4 psaturn  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:08:50pm

He will really really be sorry when his disciple in Obama is not elected as the President of the USA.

5 yochanan  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:09:00pm

G-D DAMN REV WRIGHT

6 BulgarWheat  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:10:41pm

re: #4 psaturn

I'm not so sure about that.

Someone else posted it on one of the many other threads earlier. If Obama gets elected, doesn't that sort of ruin his credibility in the poverty pimp/victimology business?

I think they had a point and I damn sure would bet that he understands that all too well.

7 schultzw  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:11:01pm

Capische?

8 Charles  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:11:06pm

I believe it was Barack Obama himself who referred to Wright as a "spiritual mentor," by the way.

9 CapeCoddah  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:11:34pm

Jackass! The man is just stuck in jackass mode, and he cant seem to stop himself.

10 bosforus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:11:40pm

I'll do nothing to prevent this guy from continuing to blabber.

11 eff plus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:11:48pm

what a tool

12 schultzw  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:11:49pm

re: #8 Charles

I believe it was Barack Obama himself who referred to Wright as a "spiritual mentor," by the way.

Nothing else screams "true patriotism" like G.D. America

13 cblesz  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:12:05pm

Jeremiah Wright: the gift that keeps on giving to Clinton and McCain. Good Lord, why hasn't Obama's people paid him to go to some Island for the next 8 months? This guy is unreal. What a tool.

14 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:12:22pm
15 zombie  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:12:34pm

What. An. Asshole.

He suffers from what the psychologists would call "malignant narcissism."

16 markx  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:12:35pm

Keep opening your pie hole, Rev.

You're just help O'bambi lose votes.


Capiche?

17 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:12:51pm

Did you notice all of his congregants at the NATIONAL PRESS CLUB? Amens, and um hms just floating all around his speech.

Every cut away for applause, whitey just sitting there. They must have been racists.

18 Ma Sands  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:12:59pm

re: #8 Charles

Yes, I remember it well.


Waffles.

19 yochanan  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:13:07pm

Tho rew wright thing just proves the racism and hate in parts of the black community i mean louis farakahan is all about this hate.

20 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:13:25pm

Left Brain, Right Brain - Black Brain, White Brain - Either the Rev. Wright is a great actor - or a Hare Brain.

-S-

21 zombie  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:13:49pm

re: #7 schultzw

Capische?

It's capiche.

Italian for "Understand?"

Usually said by a mafia don, who's making an offer you can't refuse.

22 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:13:49pm

re: #15 zombie

What. An. Asshole.

He suffers from what the psychologists would call "malignant narcissism."

First time I heard that term was from Tammy Bruce. She's one of my favorites too, Zombie!

23 markx  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:13:51pm

re: #13 cblesz

McNutt needs all the help he can get. He keeps attempting to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

24 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:14:06pm

I love his careful little bit of backtracking: "There is no excuse for the things the government -- not the American people -- have done. That doesn't make me not like America or un-patriotic."

Riiiiiiight.

25 debutaunt  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:14:10pm

He is so irritating.

26 Dianna  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:14:13pm

re: #13 cblesz

Because Obama's campaign isn't ready for prime time, any more than their candidate is.

To say nothing of the fact that a percentage are in complete agreement with the sentiments uttered by Reverend Wright.

27 coquimbojoe  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:14:18pm

I just can't get over the fact that he spews so much hate and people sit through it and call it religion. I know to each his own, and far be it from me to judge others belief systems, but I am truly dumbfounded at people finding this kind of bilge edifying......

28 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:14:21pm

Not to the anti-Semite Wright.

Everytime you say, "Jesus said" you should be saying "Jesus read" because the love thy neighbor thing, and the do unto others thing is in the book of the evil Jooos, the TORAH, and that's what's he's reading.

He didn't make it up.

So it's kinda ironic, no?

29 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:14:22pm

Jesus never said 'G.D. Israel' - He specifically referred to the leaders.

30 shimauma  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:14:23pm

I wouldn't accept an apology from this jerk. The only way I'd believe him to be sincere is if he moved out of the country.

31 Paul Atreides  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:14:25pm
If Obama gets elected, doesn't that sort of ruin his credibility in the poverty pimp/victimology business?

It's according to whom you ask. Are you asking the people who think that Wright can preach hate while calling himself a Christian?

Let us not forget the doublethink of the Left.

32 zombie  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:14:41pm

re: #9 CapeCoddah

Jackass! The man is just stuck in jackass mode, and he cant seem to stop himself.

He's "stuck on jackass."

33 NoSubmission  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:14:46pm

Keep this freak on the air 24/7 until November!

34 schultzw  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:15:09pm

re: #21 zombie

yeah, which is why is question his use of the word. I just couldn't spell it right.

35 NoSubmission  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:15:20pm

I'll have to watch the video at home later.. for entertainment purposes.

36 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:15:34pm
37 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:15:36pm

Feeding strawberries to a jackass?

38 cblesz  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:15:37pm

re: #23 markx

McNutt needs all the help he can get. He keeps attempting to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

I know...Geez.

39 VegasRick  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:15:37pm

I hope this guy gets a TV show and just keeps spewing. It could be called "What's Wrong With Wright".

40 FishFearMe  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:15:38pm

So we get "damn" from con"demn". Does that make Obama a Damnocrat?

41 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:16:19pm

re: #24 Fat Jolly Penguin

I love his careful little bit of backtracking: "There is no excuse for the things the government -- not the American people -- have done. That doesn't make me not like America or un-patriotic."

Riiiiiiight.

When most of what he accused US of is down right Chumpsky wrong.

When you argue "it never happened" that way, you're taken in by the gov line.

Conspiracy at its finest.

42 CapeCoddah  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:16:29pm

re: #14 taxfreekiller
The problem with that is Obama's direct link to this man, it is how we know of his existence. He can only keep hurting Obama. I think he has come to like the attention, and could not care less about Obama now. Now, its all about him. Thankfully, the more you see him, the more he hurts Obama's campaign. Hopefully a knockout punch is on the way for Hillary too, I don't think she is electable either, but, we don't want to take any chances!

43 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:16:46pm

And none of this is for our benefit, it's to make his flock feel better, because until now, they had no answer, now they do, no matter how ridiculous.

44 paxnhymn  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:16:51pm

errr excuse me..but when did we apologize to japan?

45 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:16:54pm

Yup, freedom of speech, it's a bee-you-tee-ful thing. God bless America!

46 Alouette  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:16:58pm

He is an asp from a brood of vipers.

47 red satellite  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:17:01pm

Spiritual menace is more apt.

48 schultzw  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:17:14pm

re: #29 Cygnus

Jesus also said that he is the way, truth, and life. But Rev. Wright wouldn't use the mic in front of his to tell people that.

49 TN_Vol  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:17:22pm

Obama should have pled ignorance and said he only went to church there to be successful in Illinois state politics.

If McCain can keep his mouth shut he might somehow win the election.

50 zombie  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:17:46pm

To quote Ringo the Gringo:

Obama -- the Wright wing of the Democratic party.

51 Alouette  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:17:48pm

Capeesh? What, now he's quoting from the garlic-breathing Romans?

52 winston06  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:17:50pm

I am speechless...

53 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:17:55pm

Can a persons citizenship be revoked ?

54 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:18:02pm

re: #44 paxnhymn

errr excuse me..but when did we apologize to japan?

I jeeze, so sorry about that thing-a-ma-bob that fell off our plane.
/

55 nikis-knight  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:18:20pm

Woe unto those who call good evil and evil good.
I don't mean to cultivate schadenfruede, but sometimes I look forward to judgement day.

56 schultzw  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:18:25pm

re: #49 TN_Vol

agreed. All the pot shots Obama's taking at J-Mac do nothing with all these things dogging him.

57 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:18:41pm

Listening to the way he talked down to the woman who asked the question again makes me suspicious about his true religious belief.
He obvioulsy hasn't a clue about what being a Christian means - I think he's much more familiar with the Qur'an.

58 markx  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:18:44pm

re: #29 Cygnus

There you go again, trying to confuse us with facts.

The Rev is preaching from the BTV* Bible.

*Black Theology Version

59 Thanos  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:18:48pm

He said "G.D. America" he did not say "G.D. The Government of America" -- us clingy, bitter people know exactly what he meant.

60 eff plus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:18:59pm

Deep down he doesn’t really want an apology, because if one came the entire demanding-an-apology grievance industry, including him, would be without a fundraising appeal.

61 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:19:09pm

re: #36 taxfreekiller

OT, but fun and real, and ya, trouble for the lie nation aka msm.

Grim mill stone of snow.

810 inches now at Timberline Lodge Mt. Hood

thats two times the avg. snow for a season

[Link: www.timberlinelodge.com...]

Suck on it Al Gore, its a snow cone just for you.

Palmer and Magic Mile lifts are closed - they must be buried in snow!

62 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:19:22pm

Can't hear the sound, but I don't need to.

Chickens is da trooth.

63 markx  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:19:28pm

re: #32 zombie

He's "stuck on jackass."

I prefer "dumbass".

Thank you.

64 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:19:28pm
65 Paul Atreides  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:19:45pm
If McCain can keep his mouth shut he might somehow win the election.

And, manage to remember that he's not running against his own party.

66 schultzw  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:19:56pm

re: #63 markx

I think Wright would prefer "dumbasp"

67 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:20:17pm

re: #64 taxfreekiller

Re:
tfk
No. 36 above

the snow forecast is for 6 to 7 straight days of snow to Sat. Sunday

1000" ? ?
That's some global warming coming down.

68 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:20:20pm

re: #44 paxnhymn

errr excuse me..but when did we apologize to japan?

I'm not sure when, but it was an apology for the detention camps on the west coast.

69 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:20:36pm

re: #8 Charles

I believe it was Barack Obama himself who referred to Wright as a "spiritual mentor," by the way.


You've taken him completely out of context & are a typical bitter white person for doing so.

Now can I finish my waffle, please?
/

70 Dolphin  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:20:44pm

I am trying to find, either the transcript or video of the response JW gave when asked (paraphrasing) "Is Jesus the only way to salvation and did he think that Islam offered the same."

I was listening at work and could not hear his response. It was only one short line. Anyone?

71 zombie  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:20:50pm

Put on a camera on some people and their perception of self-importance increases a hundred-fold. It's actually a very serious and very unpleasant mental disorder. Sufferers include:

Cindy Sheehan
Dan Rather
Paris Hilton
Jeremiah Wright
college girls on spring break
criminals who wave at the camera as they are lead off to jail.

"Hi, Ma -- I'm on TV!"

72 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:21:07pm

The NPC audience seemed to love him...They could hardly contain their glee when he went after Cheney's lack of military service.

You'd think that they didn't realize that they were watching the death of any hope that Obama will ever become President of the United States.

73 Drained Brain  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:21:17pm

Mark Steyn thinks Wright might be Karl Rove's most ingenious Rovebot yet.

74 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:21:23pm

re: #48 schultzw

Jesus also said that he is the way, truth, and life. But Rev. Wright wouldn't use the mic in front of his to tell people that.

Goodness no. That's too narrow-minded.

75 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:21:32pm

On the "G" Word

So the blogs have their bowels in an uproar over El Ingles essay over at Gates of Vienna because he used the word genocide. He never advocated for it, mind you .... but merely used the word in laying out the different scenarios of possible outcomes in the eventual Islamic takeover in Europe

and the comments:

I'm glad you picked this up, Pamela.

Who is not getting fed up with this hate-spewing morally supremacist canniballistic Lizard-king and his sycophants distorting everything? How is denigrating those who actually do something against the global jihad helping our cause? These guys are not only self-destructive but they are hell bent to take us along on their high road to hell.

sheik yer'mami

and

Principles with zero value and an outright assault on the propagation of free-speech.

Pyjamas and LGF are "not part of the solution, they are part of the problem"

Posted by: Armoured Passionfruit

76 BrianA  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:21:48pm

I think we know where snObama got his arrogance.

77 ContraJihadi  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:21:55pm

My, my, Wright sure is full of sarcasm. Does anybody find that hard to square with the notions of Christian forgiveness and charity?

78 Ma Sands  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:22:19pm

re: #30 shimauma

(Your nic reminds me of this..... :)

79 BrianA  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:22:48pm

re: #71 zombie

Put on a camera on some people and their perception of self-importance increases a hundred-fold. It's actually a very serious and very unpleasant mental disorder. Sufferers include:

Cindy Sheehan
Dan Rather
Paris Hilton
Jeremiah Wright
college girls on spring break
criminals who wave at the camera as they are lead off to jail.

"Hi, Ma -- I'm on TV!"

Don't forget Chuckie Schummer

80 kiwiviv  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:22:51pm

Do you think the AFRICANS should apologize for capturing various tribes and sending them off to slavery?

When/where should all these APOLOGIES start and finish?

The Maori people of New Zealand want the whites to APOLOGIZE also, but they ATE the people who were in NZ when they arrived. Very few of the original people survive to this day - they need an APOLOGY don't they?

81 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:22:54pm
82 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:23:00pm

re: #51 Alouette

Capeesh? What, now he's quoting from the garlic-breathing Romans?


With their olive olive looks & guinea charms
/I shouldn't have to say where that line's from.

83 J.S.  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:23:12pm

CNN just did a clip on a "researcher" who claims that the U.S. spread aids to blacks...through a vaccine...You know, listening to the MSM (the leftist ones) is sounding more and more like Arab "News". (next they'll be "reporting" on the penis-snatchers -- along with their "letter readers" offering timely "advice" as to whom to consult/pay so as to have said genitalia "re-appear..." oops. guess I shouldn't be giving any more programming ideas to the Moonbats..

84 coquimbojoe  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:23:16pm

re: #77 ContraJihadi

My, my, Wright sure is full of sarcasm. Does anybody find that hard to square with the notions of Christian forgiveness and charity?

I do, but I would be judgmental.

85 markx  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:23:24pm

Has anyone checked in at KOS today (re: Wright)? This would seem to get them all jacked up.

I refuse to visit the site.

86 justiceforall  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:23:29pm

Free speech is such a drag.

87 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:23:36pm

Anyone have pictures of Wright and Phelps in the same place at the same time?

I'm just saying.... a bit of makeup... little wig... could be the same guy. (Kind of like my running theory about Michael Moore and Rosie)

88 CapeCoddah  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:23:40pm

re: #78 Ma Sands
LOL, for some reason that reminds me of the horses who paint, and sell the paintings!

89 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:23:58pm

re: #68 Cygnus

I'm not sure when, but it was an apology for the detention camps on the west coast.

Or maybe above post is right - an apology for Hiroshima.

90 chinesearithmetic  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:24:09pm

He fantasizes he's Ali. Was it Joe Frazier Jr. whom Larry Holmes was beating so badly that the champ had to wave Frazier's cornermen to save him?

91 markx  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:24:16pm

re: #79 BrianA

All congress people in general -both parties.

92 Endangered in MASS  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:24:29pm

re: #9 CapeCoddah

Pissah. What part of the Cape?

93 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:24:31pm

re: #81 taxfreekiller

You go Snow , on to 900 inches at Timberline Lodge

Hell ya, the magic 1,000 ,

JUST SAY SNOW

Invite Algore to Timberline to give his speech in honor of 1000".

94 bosforus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:24:38pm

re: #12 schultzw

Why are the democrats the only ones that don't understand that you don't have to hate America to want it to change? Our system's actually set up pretty well for change if they would just become an active participant in politics and stop screaming and yelling for change.

95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:24:41pm

re: #60 eff plus

cool nic.

96 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:24:42pm

Rev Wright under the protection of the Nation of Islam. I am beginning to believe that Rev Wright is not a Christian at all but instead is a perpetrator of Taqiyya who's purpose is to destroy the proper practice of Christianity by poisoning his sermons to create divisions. Obama is likely one of his one of his disciples or vectors. If I was an Islamic supporter I would want to debase and distort Christian values in community so that and Aggressive and more focused "replacement" can easily fill the void.

I hope I'm wrong but I feel this in my gut that this whole Chicago, Ellis, farrakhan, and Ayers thing is a sham and a huge deception upon the citizens of America.

97 paxnhymn  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:24:46pm

re: #54 jcm

I jeeze, so sorry about that thing-a-ma-bob that fell off our plane.
/

"it's the thing-a-ma-bob that does the job,
a bibidy-bobidy....eeeeeeeewww!"


:-D

98 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:24:51pm
99 Sol Roth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:24:53pm

Medved brought up a good point earlier today. In one of these rants, Wright reveals he's composing a book. The theory is that the advance is an easy $1,000,000 and that he's flapping his piehole as pre-release publicity.

Always follow the money.

100 Iron Mike  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:25:08pm

I'm waiting for my apology from the Catholic church, for the Inquisition, Phillip II of Spain, persecution of Protestants in Holland.

101 CapeCoddah  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:25:11pm

re: #92 Endangered in MASS

Pissah. What part of the Cape?


Harwich Port

102 zombie  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:25:16pm

re: #89 Cygnus

Or maybe above post is right - an apology for Hiroshima.

No, they apologied to West Coast Japanese internees and gave each something like $28,000.

Early '90s-ish.

Senator Inouye pushed it through.

The whining never stopped.

103 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:25:25pm

Keep talkin', Reverend!

104 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:25:42pm

re: #91 markx

All congress people in general -both parties.

Except Duncan Hunter.

Though he WANTED a camera on him... you know.... during the time he was running for president . . . but the press was too busy to pay attention to him when covering events he was a part of.

105 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:25:43pm

re: #100 Iron Mike

I apologize.

106 BrianA  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:25:48pm

re: #80 kiwiviv

Do you think the AFRICANS should apologize for capturing various tribes and sending them off to slavery?

When/where should all these APOLOGIES start and finish?

The Maori people of New Zealand want the whites to APOLOGIZE also, but they ATE the people who were in NZ when they arrived. Very few of the original people survive to this day - they need an APOLOGY don't they?

Wasn't it the AFRICANS of EGYPT that enslaved the Jews like Moses and had them build all those pyramids and such?

107 nikis-knight  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:25:50pm

re: #75 Ben Hur

"Actually do something?" Ha, like what?

108 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:25:57pm

re: #93 jcm

Invite Algore to Timberline to give his speech in honor of 1000".

Isn't that Gore's waist size by about now?

109 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:26:02pm
110 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:26:27pm

But he speaks 5 languages!

111 auldtrafford  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:26:37pm

re: #60 eff plus

Deep down he doesn’t really want an apology, because if one came the entire demanding-an-apology grievance industry, including him, would be without a fundraising appeal.

I don't think he'd mind an apology - because the ability to grant, or not, forgiveness holds an amount of power in it. But if an apology is offered (and power granted unto him), it won't be enough; he will point out - correctly of course - that it is coming from the wrong place (all those people who should apologize - if anybody - are long, long dead).

112 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:26:47pm

re: #87 LanceKates

Anyone have pictures of Wright and Phelps in the same place at the same time?

I'm just saying.... a bit of makeup... little wig... could be the same guy. (Kind of like my running theory about Michael Moore and Rosie)

Or Helen Thomas and my cat's rear end.

113 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:27:03pm

re: #110 Ben Hur

But he speaks 5 languages!

And all of them foul.

114 paxnhymn  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:27:35pm

re: #100 Iron Mike

I'm waiting for my apology from the Catholic church, for the Inquisition, Phillip II of Spain, persecution of Protestants in Holland.

ohhh, and let's not forget reparations from the Egyptians (gee, aren't they Africans?) for their 400 year enslavment of the Jews...

115 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:27:45pm

re: #112 Cygnus

Or Helen Thomas and my cat's rear end.

your cat will be offended.

116 kiwiviv  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:27:46pm

re: #106 BrianA

Wasn't it the AFRICANS of EGYPT that enslaved the Jews like Moses and had them build all those pyramids and such?

Sure was - the Africans have probably enslaved more people over the centuries than anyone. Maybe the good Rev. would like to APOLOGIZE on their behalf.

117 Squirrelguy  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:27:51pm

re: #9 CapeCoddah

Jackass! The man is just stuck in jackass mode, and he cant seem to stop himself.

Stuck on stupid?

118 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:28:20pm

After this election's over, Oprah's gonna leave for Africa - permanently.

/i wish

119 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:28:35pm

re: #112 Cygnus

Or Helen Thomas and my cat's rear end.

But let's not insult the cat, please!

120 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:28:44pm

re: #101 CapeCoddah

Harwich Port

You mean all three Massachusetts republicans are here today? Wow.

121 CapeCoddah  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:29:00pm

re: #117 Squirrelguy
Yup, that too, and dumbass and any other similar word yoou wish to substitute!

122 Kitty  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:29:06pm

re: #70 Dolphin

I am trying to find, either the transcript or video of the response JW gave when asked (paraphrasing) "Is Jesus the only way to salvation and did he think that Islam offered the same."

I was listening at work and could not hear his response. It was only one short line. Anyone?

He replied about... "I have another flock..." I believe that Jesus was speaking about not-Jewish believers not non-believers.

123 markx  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:29:12pm

re: #99 Sol Roth

WHAT?

A book?
I'm shocked!

/

PS:: check this out. Some real jewels there.

124 VegasRick  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:29:20pm

re: #100 Iron Mike

I'm waiting for my apology from the Catholic church, for the Inquisition, Phillip II of Spain, persecution of Protestants in Holland.

I expect an apology from my 4th grade teacher (she was mean to all of us).
/

125 Endangered in MASS  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:29:21pm

re: #101 CapeCoddah


I live near Lowell. BIL has a house in Dennis. He's been leasing it year round the last two years. No more free vaction home.

126 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:29:42pm

re: #112 Cygnus

Or Helen Thomas and my cat's rear end.

A cat's rear end has a purpose.....

127 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:29:58pm

re: #115 LanceKates

your cat will be offended.

He's already offended at me because I didn't let him out this morning.

128 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:30:02pm

There were a few suggestions in the last Wright thread that this may be past of the BH Obama strategy. Get Wright out of the way while Barry is ahead in delegates. Hillary cannot catch up. Then, while everyone's eyes are turned to the national election, make Wright mysteriously disappear into the background mist and focus all the attention on McCain's problems.

I wouldn't put it past the MSM to do exactly that. They are in love with Barry, and it's been their modus operandi in the past.

129 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:30:06pm

Has the Sultan of Morocco apologized for the hundreds of thousands of Europeans and the millions of black Africans his ancestors stole into slavery?

Have the Turks apologized for the millions of Christian slaves take form the Balkans and the Caucasus?

Have the Sudanese apologized for the slaves they hold today, stolen from their southern Christian tribes and fro the Muslim Africans of Darfur?

Have the Arabs apologized for the millions of subjugated Christians, Jews, and Hindus sold into slavery?

130 Dolphin  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:30:15pm

re: #122 Kitty

Thank you - don't understand it, but then again, don't understand a lot of what JW says. Just knew he did not answer the question.

131 CapeCoddah  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:30:22pm

re: #120 Yankee Division Son

You mean all three Massachusetts republicans are here today? Wow.


LOL, Is Jeff Perry here? Where are you from in this beautiful, but horrendousy managed state?

132 rabidsquirrel  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:30:36pm

re: #8 Charles

I believe it was Barack Obama himself who referred to Wright as a "spiritual mentor," by the way.

If all goes well, he'll be referring the good damn "reverand" as his 'spiritual tormentor"...

133 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:30:46pm

re: #127 Cygnus

He's already offended at me because I didn't let him out this morning.

Careful. You are staff to a cat. Therefore, you are replacable.

134 Squirrelguy  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:31:05pm

re: #128 Honorary Yooper

Then, while everyone's eyes are turned to the national election, make Wright mysteriously disappear into the background mist

Vince Foster him?

135 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:31:06pm

re: #96 Egfrow

Rev Wright under the protection of the Nation of Islam. I am beginning to believe that Rev Wright is not a Christian at all but instead is a perpetrator of Taqiyya who's purpose is to destroy the proper practice of Christianity by poisoning his sermons to create divisions. Obama is likely one of his one of his disciples or vectors. If I was an Islamic supporter I would want to debase and distort Christian values in community so that and Aggressive and more focused "replacement" can easily fill the void.

I hope I'm wrong but I feel this in my gut that this whole Chicago, Ellis, farrakhan, and Ayers thing is a sham and a huge deception upon the citizens of America.

I'm glad you said that - its a suspicion which I share, and which seems to be getting stronger the more we hear the original Mr Wright.

136 CapeCoddah  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:31:16pm

re: #125 Endangered in MASS
Not free indeed, not when youo can pay the mortgage for a year renting it out for 8 weeks.

137 godfrey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:31:19pm

Classic turnspeak.

It's not Wright who damns America: it's God.

It's not America that's owed an apology: it's America that should apologize.

In other words, if we Americans feel insulted, that's our problem. Not his.

Clearly, here's a guy who can do this all day.

It's called "game."

138 Sol Roth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:31:25pm

re: #123 markx

WHAT?

A book?
I'm shocked!

/

PS:: check this out. Some real jewels there.

With that list, you might get the impression he has an agenda or something.

/

139 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:31:36pm

re: #119 Fat Jolly Penguin

But let's not insult the cat, please!

OK; I apologize to all cats' rear ends out there for being such an ass.

140 VegasRick  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:31:54pm

re: #129 Kenneth

Has the Sultan of Morocco apologized for the hundreds of thousands of Europeans and the millions of black Africans his ancestors stole into slavery?

Have the Turks apologized for the millions of Christian slaves take form the Balkans and the Caucasus?

Have the Sudanese apologized for the slaves they hold today, stolen from their southern Christian tribes and fro the Muslim Africans of Darfur?

Have the Arabs apologized for the millions of subjugated Christians, Jews, and Hindus sold into slavery?

Have the Germans ever apologized for bombing Pearl Harbor?!
/blutarski

141 republic  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:31:57pm

Wright is a blasphemer of the Word of God.

He is not a Christian, he is a blasphemer, a viper.

Not my words, but from the Bible.

142 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:32:01pm

re: #134 Squirrelguy

Vince Foster him?

Not necessarily. Even Charles thought it might be part of the BH Obama strategy to have him talk like this right now. It does fire up a part of Obama's base.

143 kiwiviv  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:32:01pm

re: #129 Kenneth

Has the Sultan of Morocco apologized for the hundreds of thousands of Europeans and the millions of black Africans his ancestors stole into slavery?

Have the Turks apologized for the millions of Christian slaves take form the Balkans and the Caucasus?

Have the Sudanese apologized for the slaves they hold today, stolen from their southern Christian tribes and fro the Muslim Africans of Darfur?

Have the Arabs apologized for the millions of subjugated Christians, Jews, and Hindus sold into slavery?

My point exactly - bad stuff has been going on since the beginning of time. Africans are not only people on earth that need an apology.

144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:32:14pm

re: #134 Squirrelguy

Vince Foster him?

I never bought the Vince Foster thing. Think he just offed himself.

145 Endangered in MASS  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:32:15pm

re: #120 Yankee Division Son


You have understated our ranks ... You forgot Infidelia,Remembering Tony C, and the inimitible Loppy D.

146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:32:44pm

re: #140 VegasRick

Have the Germans ever apologized for bombing Pearl Harbor?!
/blutarski

YES!

147 Charles  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:32:48pm

re: #75 Ben Hur

On the "G" Word

Posted by: Armoured Passionfruit

And of course, I never claimed he did advocate genocide. It's really clear from my post.

148 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:32:54pm

re: #79 BrianA

Don't forget Chuckie Schummer

And Kato Kaelin.

149 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:33:03pm

re: #143 kiwiviv

Exactly. Africans continue to enslave fellow Africans today. Apologies begin at home.

150 WrathofG-d  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:33:28pm

OT:

Hizb'allah kidnaps French diplomat after he takes picture of a mosque stating "security concerns".

Hiz'b'allah are a bit touchy about the photographing of the exterior of a mosque aren't they? What sort of concern could Hiz'b'allah have with an innocent old mosque? /sarc.

-they let the Frenchy go after 5 hours of "interrogation"

151 WrathofG-d  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:33:47pm

dang 150 CONT.

Here is the link

152 J.S.  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:33:50pm

re: #70 Dolphin

I am trying to find, either the transcript or video of the response JW gave when asked (paraphrasing) "Is Jesus the only way to salvation and did he think that Islam offered the same."

I was listening at work and could not hear his response. It was only one short line. Anyone?

From Fox News: transcript of J. Wright:

MODERATOR: Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the father but through me.” Do you believe this? And do you think Islam is a way to salvation?

WRIGHT: Jesus also said, “Other sheep have I who are not of this fold.”

153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:33:52pm

Remember Olive Oyls dad in the Popeye movie. All he did was wander around the house saying, "You owe me an apology!" Little did I know.

154 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:33:53pm

re: #141 republic

Wright is a blasphemer of the Word of God.

He is not a Christian, he is a blasphemer, a viper.

Not my words, but from the Bible.

Hey republic!

155 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:33:55pm

re: #144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Pfft! That's what THEY want you to think!

/ tin foil hat

Actually.... who knows? There is a clear track record of abuse and assault on people who've gone against the clintons dating back to his Arkansas days.

What's to say that it wouldn't go farther if the stakes were higher?

Who knows? We know we can't trust him, that's for sure.

156 Endangered in MASS  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:33:56pm

re: #136 CapeCoddah

Do you golf?

157 doppelganglander  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:33:59pm

re: #100 Iron Mike

I'm waiting for my apology from the Catholic church, for the Inquisition, Phillip II of Spain, persecution of Protestants in Holland.

That'll happen right after I get apologies from Egypt for enslaving the Israelites and England for starving the Irish.

158 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:34:05pm

re: #140 VegasRick

Have the Germans ever apologized for bombing Pearl Harbor?!
/blutarski

Has Darth Vader apologized for blowing up the planet Organia?

159 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:34:26pm

re: #150 WrathofG-d

OT:

Hizb'allah kidnaps French diplomat after he takes picture of a mosque stating "security concerns".

Hiz'b'allah are a bit touchy about the photographing of the exterior of a mosque aren't they? What sort of concern could Hiz'b'allah have with an innocent old mosque? /sarc.

-they let the Frenchy go after 5 hours of "interrogation"

Our military is a bit touching about folks taking pictures of weapons depots too.

160 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:34:30pm

re: #153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Remember Olive Oyls dad in the Popeye movie. All he did was wander around the house saying, "You owe me an apology!" Little did I know.

Wright is related to Popeye? Who knew?

161 infidelia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:34:46pm

re: #120 Yankee Division Son

You mean all three Massachusetts republicans are here today? Wow.

Actually, there's 4 of us.

Wreverend Wright, there is such a thing as stacking deck chairs on the Titanic. You, suh, on the other hand, are in a boat behind the iceberg pushin' hard. Please don't stop whatcha doin' on our account, heh...

162 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:34:53pm

re: #152 J.S.

And Jesus also said that not all who call out "Lord Lord" will enter heaven.

Some are goats. Chaff to be burned in the fire.

163 Squirrelguy  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:35:00pm

re: #160 Ward Cleaver

Wright is related to Popeye? Who knew?

That whole 7 degree thingy.

164 gymnast  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:35:11pm

The Reverend Wrights mouth and words have assumed the form and substance of a "Polish Dueling Pistol" on full automatic.

(No offense intended to persons of Polish extraction and the gallant people of Poland who have endured so much in the past centuries and yet remain a nation of courage and commitment to the ideals of Western Civilization.)

165 godfrey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:35:13pm

Speaking of damnation... wasn't it Pat Robertson who made a similar argument about New Orleans? How is Wright's defense of "God damn America!" any different?

166 republic  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:35:13pm

re: #137 godfrey

Classic turnspeak.

It's not Wright who damns America: it's God.

It's not America that's owed an apology: it's America that should apologize.

In other words, if we Americans feel insulted, that's our problem. Not his.

Clearly, here's a guy who can do this all day.

It's called "game."


Wright is a typical blasphemer, quote a Scripture, and then use his own words to twist it into something that makes sense to him.

God decides what is to be damned, not Wright.

He's a viper, nothing more.

167 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:35:29pm

re: #147 Charles

And of course, I never claimed he did advocate genocide. It's really clear from my post.

He doesn't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

168 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:35:31pm

re: #135 yma o hyd

I'm glad you said that - its a suspicion which I share, and which seems to be getting stronger the more we hear the original Mr Wright.

See, the problem is that Wright is claiming that Zionism is Racist and this is what he has preached to his flocks, But True Christians do not see Zionism in that sort of light. At least in the churches I have been to.

169 Maximu§  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:35:35pm

This is the final nail-in-the-coffin for Obama's campaign....the minute they played the race card, it was over. Most American's are sick and tired of talking about race, but the media can't shut their yap's about it.

170 stevieray  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:35:45pm

It would be easier to list the people who didn't enslave their neighbors.

Are there any?

171 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:36:12pm

re: #158 Cygnus

Has Darth Vader apologized for blowing up the planet Organia?

*sigh*

< begin nerdity >

Organia was the last name of the royal family (TECHNICALLY only Princess Leia's name by adoption)

The planet was Alderaan.

< end nerdity >

....

*sigh*

I need to get married. It isn't good to be this much of a nerd.

172 VegasRick  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:36:29pm

re: #158 Cygnus

Has Darth Vader apologized for blowing up the planet Organia?

No!

173 NoSubmission  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:36:29pm

Obama's chickens have come home to roost...

174 Dianna  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:36:39pm

re: #72 Ringo the Gringo

The audience reaction shots showed the reporters essentially sitting on their hands.

I'm not clear on whose glee we were hearing.

175 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:36:46pm

re: #171 LanceKates

*sigh*

< begin nerdity >

Organia was the last name of the royal family (TECHNICALLY only Princess Leia's name by adoption)

The planet was Alderaan.

< end nerdity >

....

*sigh*

I need to get married. It isn't good to be this much of a nerd.

Oops - you're right. Brain fart.

176 Charles  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:36:54pm

re: #147 Charles

Just for the record, since certain people are already trying to distort the truth, here's what I wrote about the 'genocide' article:

He backs away at the last minute, after imagining it in great detail, and says he’s not advocating genocide. So what does he advocate?

A totalitarian police state that will institute policies of concentration camps and mass deportation, and criminalize being a Muslim in Europe.

And there is nothing untrue in that.

177 republic  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:36:55pm

re: #154 Ward Cleaver

Hey republic!

Hey Ward!

178 CapeCoddah  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:37:04pm

re: #156 Endangered in MASS
I am a native, I do not golf. No self respecting native golfs.
LOL, no really, I have no time to golf. I am on call 24/7, and I sneak in 3 days in June and 3 in Oct to go hike the Presidentials in New Hampshire. That is the extent of my time off for the year.

179 kiwiviv  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:37:11pm

re: #165 godfrey

Speaking of damnation... wasn't it Pat Robertson who made a similar argument about New Orleans? How is Wright's defense of "God damn America!" any different?

The difference is that when Pat Robertson says something stupid - all of his brothers and sisters in the Church jump on him and sort him out. He has been raked over the coals for what he has said.

With this buffoon Rev. Wright - the other black pastors all cheer him on

180 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:37:25pm

re: #165 godfrey

Speaking of damnation... wasn't it Pat Robertson who made a similar argument about New Orleans? How is Wright's defense of "God damn America!" any different?

Pat Robertson is white.

Though he recently appeared with Sharpton in an ad on TV about fighting Global Warming.

181 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:37:25pm

re: #171 LanceKates


I need to get married. It isn't good to be this much of a nerd.

Charles,

LGF needs a subsite.

Lizard Match Making.

182 byrule62  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:37:31pm

This morning I saw this news story at this link: [Link: news.yahoo.com...]

It is about the 4 people getting killed in a blast in Gaza. Originally Palestinian propagandist Ibrahim Barzak wrote something like Israeli shell kills 4... and the headline supported that. Does anyone have a screenshot of the story like that? It now has now been edited to say "Palestinians said the house was hit by an Israeli tank shell; Israel said explosives being carried by militants blew up and brought down the two-room structure." The rest of the article still follows the blame it on Israel theme. Charles if you get the original screenshot, maybe its worth a mention that the AP lets these things sit out on the wires and then secretly changes them.

183 chicagodudewhotrades  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:37:36pm

re: #150 WrathofG-d

maybe frenchie was taking pix of what was being carried inside the mosque? meaning, if it got bombed , i'm sure there would be secondary explosions for a while

184 godfrey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:37:59pm

chic!

185 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:38:37pm

re: #155 LanceKates

Pfft! That's what THEY want you to think!

/ tin foil hat

Actually.... who knows? There is a clear track record of abuse and assault on people who've gone against the clintons dating back to his Arkansas days.

What's to say that it wouldn't go farther if the stakes were higher?

Who knows? We know we can't trust him, that's for sure.

I wouldn't want to be the POTUS if Hillary were VP.......short life expectancy IMHO.

186 Last Mohican  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:38:49pm

Reverend Wright's entire speech and the Q&A session thereafter have been posted by various people on youtube. Here's one set:

Part 1:


Part 2:
Part 3:
Part 4:
Part 5:
Part 6:

I'm still trying to find a video of the NAACP speech. I can't say I'm really looking forward to watching these videos.

187 republic  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:38:54pm

re: #165 godfrey

Speaking of damnation... wasn't it Pat Robertson who made a similar argument about New Orleans? How is Wright's defense of "God damn America!" any different?

Pat Robertson was factually wrong to make such a statement, although I don't believe he was wrong about Yugo Chavez.

188 kansas  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:39:00pm

Is there one vote this biggot has helped get for BHO?

189 infidelia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:39:04pm

re: #171 LanceKates

*sigh*

< begin nerdity >

Organia was the last name of the royal family (TECHNICALLY only Princess Leia's name by adoption)

The planet was Alderaan.

< end nerdity >

....

Actually he just stood there and watched Tarkin blow it up. And don't think his lawyer wouldn't make good use of that.


*sigh*

I need to get married. It isn't good to be this much of a nerd.

190 Last Mohican  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:39:18pm

re: #186 Last Mohican

Oops, PIMF. Those six videos are form the NPC speech.

191 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:39:26pm

re: #179 kiwiviv

Actually, several Black American pastors have criticized Wright for his comments. He does not speak for the majority of African Americans.

192 republic  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:39:27pm

bbl

193 Kitty  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:39:32pm

re: #130 Dolphin

Thank you - don't understand it, but then again, don't understand a lot of what JW says. Just knew he did not answer the question.

"I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd."

The question was (more or less), If Jesus said that I am the only way to the Father... what about Muslims?

Wright answered with a scripture that did not fit the question but sounded clever to those who give Jesus a sideways glance.

194 NoSubmission  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:39:35pm

re: #181 jcm

Lizard Match Making.


Lizard Match. I like it!

195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:39:39pm

re: #164 gymnast

What a spectacular back-pedal! Nice.

Wasn't offended. But was truly impressed by the back-pedal!

196 jamgarr  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:39:58pm

re: #7 schultzw

Capische?

Bart Simpson: "Everything except capische."

197 Silhouette  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:40:02pm

re: #171 LanceKates

*sigh* Organia was the last name of the royal family (TECHNICALLY only Princess Leia's name by adoption)

Double *sigh*

It is Leia Organa, not Organia.

198 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:40:09pm

Wright tips hat to Jewish acquaintance

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. delivered greetings to a top American Jewish Committee staffer.

Speaking Sunday in Detroit to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, Wright suggested that he had a broad base of allies in Chicago, where he is based.

Listing his supporters, he said, "I would also like to thank sister Melanie Maron, the former executive director of the Chicago chapter of the American Jewish Committee and the current executive director of the Washington, DC, chapter of the American Jewish Committee. I would like to thank my good friend and Jewish author Tim Wise for his support."

snip

"My position on Israel is that Israel has a right to exist; that Israelis have a right to exist, as I said, reconciled one to another," he said. "Palestinians and Israelis need to sit down and talk to each other and work out a solution where their children can grow in a world together and not be talking about killing each other; that that is not God's will. So my position is that Israel and the people of Israel be the people of God who are worrying about reconciliation and who are trying to do what God wants for God's people, which is reconciliation."

I guess he is a politician after all.

(the "Free Palestine!" sevant Wright activist in a former thread comes to mind)

199 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:40:09pm

re: #186 Last Mohican

CNN has the text of Wright's NAACP speech.

200 schultzw  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:40:12pm

re: #194 NoSubmission

only if it's free and women my age are around.

201 Sol Roth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:40:15pm

re: #171 LanceKates

Marriage won't fix nerdism. Trust me.

202 schultzw  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:40:32pm

re: #199 Kenneth

link?

203 Last Mohican  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:40:38pm

re: #188 kansas

Is there one vote this biggot has helped get for BHO?

Yeah, I think Wright got BHO a hell of a lot of votes in Chicago. In fact, BHO's entire identity as a black person seems to have been purchased with his sucking up to Wright for all these years.

204 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:41:16pm

re: #157 doppelganglander

That'll happen right after I get apologies from Egypt for enslaving the Israelites and England for starving the Irish.

Hah - Tony Blair has apologised to the Irish ... and to Black Africans ... (forgot to apologise to us for the mess he made of our country, but hey, wasn't his fault he got elected....)

205 VegasRick  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:41:40pm

re: #188 kansas

Is there one vote this biggot has helped get for BHO?

Sure, any black racist will vote for obombu.

206 rabidsquirrel  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:41:44pm

re: #159 jcm

Our military is a bit touching about folks taking pictures of weapons depots too.

Is it good touching, or bad touching?

207 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:41:52pm

re: #126 jcm

A cat's rear end has a purpose.....

Why Yes, yes it does.

208 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:42:06pm

re: #181 jcm

Charles,

LGF needs a subsite.

Lizard Match Making.

Here's your first ad:
"GFL looking for GML for long walks, keeping warm, and long dinners over gamy troll buttocks. Meet me in the Lizard Lounge."

GFL =Green Female Lizard

:D :D

209 FishFearMe  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:42:09pm

I think I'll start selling "apology offsets" at $9.95 each. Just sayin'.

210 DesertSage  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:42:11pm

He Betrayed Our Country!
He..Played..On..Our..Fears!

oops...wrong guy. That was AlGore
sorry...

211 CapeCoddah  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:42:21pm

re: #161 infidelia

Actually, there's 4 of us.

Wreverend Wright, there is such a thing as stacking deck chairs on the Titanic. You, suh, on the other hand, are in a boat behind the iceberg pushin' hard. Please don't stop whatcha doin' on our account, heh...


I dont know about you guys, but, in conversation, I find plenty of conservatives in Mass, but, its like they are all held hostage until the polls close every election day. BTW, did Cadillac Deval ever talk about his church? Or anything at all?

212 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:42:31pm

re: #164 gymnast

The Reverend Wrights mouth and words have assumed the form and substance of a "Polish Dueling Pistol" on full automatic.

(No offense intended to persons of Polish extraction and the gallant people of Poland who have endured so much in the past centuries and yet remain a nation of courage and commitment to the ideals of Western Civilization.)

No offense taken. Good analogy. ;-)

213 so.cal.swede  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:42:50pm

Ahh. Wright, what an idiot.

Rest assured, this is nothing more than a sales pitch to sell more anti-american propaganda. He is really nothing more than a loudmouth Che-Gue t-shirt vendor at a Berkeley fair.

(And Barak bought one from him to look cool with the kidz)

214 Dolphin  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:42:51pm

re: #152 J.S.

Thank you, thank you!

Exactly what does he mean by this?

WRIGHT: Jesus also said, “Other sheep have I who are not of this fold.”

Going in search of this scripture now (for context).

215 kiwiviv  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:42:55pm

re: #191 Kenneth

Actually, several Black American pastors have criticized Wright for his comments. He does not speak for the majority of African Americans.

It is kind of like the numbers of Muslims who condemn the loopy Imams and the things they say. Rev. Wright is getting standing ovations wherever he goes.

Pat Robertson is openly and loudly denounced when he steps out of bounds. It is made very clear that he is not speaking for the rest of the Church

216 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:43:02pm

From the article Voice of Doom! Washington Post.

Speaking before an audience that included Marion Barry, Cornel West, Malik Zulu Shabazz of the New Black Panther Party and Nation of Islam official Jamil Muhammad, Wright praised Louis Farrakhan, defended the view that Zionism is racism, accused the United States of terrorism, repeated his view that the government created the AIDS virus to cause the genocide of racial minorities, stood by other past remarks ("God damn America") and held himself out as a spokesman for the black church in America.

Here is where Ayer's idealogy fit's in.

He denounced those who "can worship God on Sunday morning, wearing a black clergy robe, and kill others on Sunday evening, wearing a white Klan robe." He praised the communist Sandinista regime of Nicaragua.

217 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:43:02pm

re: #147 Charles

And of course, I never claimed he did advocate genocide. It's really clear from my post.


Don't expect them to actually read your post, only their allies reaction to it.

218 paxnhymn  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:43:17pm

re: #199 Kenneth

CNN has the text of Wright's NAACP speech.


what are they doin' with it? Payin' homage?.....


:-?

219 HelloDare  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:43:20pm

That wasn't Wright. That was Karl Rove with one of those Mission Impossible masks on. What a magnificent bastard.

220 schultzw  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:43:23pm

re: #209 FishFearMe

can those be purchased along with carbon credits? one-stop shop?

221 shiplord kirel  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:43:29pm

re: #75 Ben Hur

"canniballistic Lizard-king"

Yikes! I hear iguana tastes like chicken.

222 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:43:29pm

re: #158 Cygnus

Has Darth Vader apologized for blowing up the planet Organia?

It was Alderaan, as someone said.
But being a Sith Lord means never having to say you're sorry.

223 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:43:31pm

re: #206 rabidsquirrel

Is it good touching, or bad touching?

PIMF, damn it PIMF

'course the right weapons depot, where the guards carry "with authorization" they will reach out and touch someone.

224 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:44:12pm

re: #198 Ben Hur

Shame on any Jew or Christian who buys into the BS shovelled by Wright and his protege'

225 WrathofG-d  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:44:22pm

re: #198 Ben Hur

Me thinks that the "Reverand" hasn't read the part of that "G-d's Word" thing called the Bible/Torah/Koran that states that "all that his eyes can see" are to be the land of the people of Israel (ie: Jews), and our complete controll of Jerusalem!

I remember the Amalekites, and the Caanaanites...I just wish "religous leaders" did.

226 schultzw  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:44:25pm

re: #214 Dolphin

My thought is that He's talking about the Gentiles.

227 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:44:36pm

re: #214 Dolphin

Thank you, thank you!

Exactly what does he mean by this?

Going in search of this scripture now (for context).

I believe that He was talking about the Gentiles.

228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:44:41pm

re: #215 kiwiviv

It is kind of like the numbers of Muslims who condemn the loopy Imams and the things they say. Rev. Wright is getting standing ovations wherever he goes.

Sorry for calling Bullshit on you. He is traveling with his own amen corner.

229 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:45:12pm

re: #208 Cygnus

Here's your first ad:
"GFL looking for GML for long walks, keeping warm, and long dinners over gamy troll buttocks. Meet me in the Lizard Lounge."

GFL =Green Female Lizard

:D :D

On a conference call. Where is the mute button.

LOL!

230 infidelia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:45:17pm

re: #201 Sol Roth

Marriage won't fix nerdism. Trust me.

It just drives it underground until it finally bursts out again with the force of Mt. St. Helens. Trust me.

231 Silhouette  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:45:18pm

John 10:16 And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd

232 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:45:28pm
...he vigorously renewed demands for an apology for slavery: "Britain has apologized to Africans. But this country's leaders have refused to apologize. So until that apology comes, I'm not going to keep stepping on your foot and asking you, does this hurt, do you forgive me for stepping on your footh, if I'm still stepping on your foot. Understand that? Capisce?"

I didn't know Wright was a former or current slave.

233 Last Mohican  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:45:32pm

re: #199 Kenneth

CNN has the text of Wright's NAACP speech.

Thanks, that did it. Here is the complete transcript.

I still feel like I should probably watch a video if I can find one, just so I can take in the full extent of the man's venomous hatred, his smirky sarcasm, and the pissed-off, smirky chuckling of the audience. The audience reaction is what bothers me most, actually, when watching people like Wright and Farrakhan.

234 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:45:46pm

re: #191 Kenneth

Actually, several Black American pastors have criticized Wright for his comments. He does not speak for the majority of African Americans.

Got any names - church locations?

235 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:45:56pm

re: #181 jcm

Charles,

LGF needs a subsite.

Lizard Match Making.

It's called the Lizard Lounge.

236 Kitty  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:45:58pm

re: #214 Dolphin

Thank you, thank you!

Exactly what does he mean by this?


Going in search of this scripture now (for context).


John 10:16

237 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:46:25pm

re: #168 Egfrow

See, the problem is that Wright is claiming that Zionism is Racist and this is what he has preached to his flocks, But True Christians do not see Zionism in that sort of light. At least in the churches I have been to.


Nor in any I go to.

The more of his utterances are in the public domain - preferably on video - the more this will become clear: he's no Christian. Using snippets of Bible verses to browbeat your opponent shows that clearly.
I think he's well versed in taqqiya. He did study Islam, didn't he?

238 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:46:27pm

re: #171 LanceKates

*sigh*

< begin nerdity >

Organia was the last name of the royal family (TECHNICALLY only Princess Leia's name by adoption)

The planet was Alderaan.

< end nerdity >

....

*sigh*

I need to get married. It isn't good to be this much of a nerd.


And to be really nerdish, it was Moff Tarkin who ordered Alderaan to be destroyed.

239 ted  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:46:54pm

My Moonbat Liberal, Democrat Votin', Self-Hating, Synagogue going, Non Pointy Carrying Weapon of Any kind Jewish Brother calls Wright "Charismatic"

240 paxnhymn  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:47:01pm

re: #232 Egfrow

I didn't know Wright was a former or current slave.

I venture to say he has no living relative who was even related to a slave...

241 infidelia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:47:31pm

re: #232 Egfrow

I didn't know Wright was a former or current slave.

He's a slave to his own big mouth, that's for sure.

242 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:47:38pm

re: #221 shiplord kirel

"canniballistic Lizard-king"

Yikes! I hear iguana tastes like chicken.

Ask these guys.

I wish I was in Tijuana
Eating barbecued iguana...

(Sorry, lizard isn't kosher)

243 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:47:39pm

re: #238 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And to be really nerdish, it was Moff Tarkin who ordered Alderaan to be destroyed.

Give me a break - it's been quite a while since I watched that movie.

244 Silhouette  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:47:44pm

And Grand Moff Tarkin blew up Alderaan.

245 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:47:49pm

I agree with some of the other posts here, that Wright can't AFFORD to have a win for Obama. It would be bad business for his church if he is proven wrong about his preachings of a White Racists America.

246 FishFearMe  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:48:01pm

re: #220 schultzw

can those be purchased along with carbon credits? one-stop shop?

But wait! There's more! If you order in the next 10 minutes.....

247 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:48:02pm

re: #175 Cygnus

Oops - you're right. Brain fart.

No no, it's ok. I think I'm more bothered by my rememberance of it than your mistake.

oh, crap... here it comes again.

< begin nerdity >

After the destruction of Alderaan, the Emperor gave the 60k or so survivors (who were off-world at the time) a place to live on his 'resort world' as an act of appeasement for the destruction of their planet. In fact, they were quickly turned into slaves.

Princess Leia, after the Empire was destroyed and the New Republic was put in place, bought a ship and named it the Alderaan.

248 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:48:09pm
249 paxnhymn  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:48:15pm

re: #239 ted

My Moonbat Liberal, Democrat Votin', Self-Hating, Synagogue going, Non Pointy Carrying Weapon of Any kind Jewish Brother calls Wright "Charismatic"

you obviously didn't beat the crap outta him enough when y'all were young....

250 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:48:38pm

re: #215 kiwiviv

But, I am only running on intuition. You could be right.

251 kiwiviv  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:48:43pm

re: #228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sorry for calling Bullshit on you. He is traveling with his own amen corner.

What does that mean?

This Black Liberation Theology has a huge following. Way more than an "Amen corner." We are foolish if we think that this is a small thing.

252 infidelia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:48:53pm

re: #239 ted

My Moonbat Liberal, Democrat Votin', Self-Hating, Synagogue going, Non Pointy Carrying Weapon of Any kind Jewish Brother calls Wright "Charismatic"

That's what they called Jim Jones, Charlie Manson, and Hitler.

253 Endangered in MASS  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:48:55pm

re: #178 CapeCoddah

A Cape Coddah going to NH. Who would have thunk it. Can you see your house from Mt Washington.

254 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:49:00pm

re: #249 paxnhymn

you obviously didn't beat the crap outta him enough when y'all were young....

Or ya did.

255 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:49:10pm

re: #185 eschew_obfuscation

I wouldn't want to be the POTUS if Hillary were VP.......short life expectancy IMHO.

My liberal half-brother has suggested that a President Obama VP Hillary might be assassinated.

256 Last Mohican  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:49:19pm

re: #219 HelloDare

That wasn't Wright. That was Karl Rove with one of those Mission Impossible masks on. What a magnificent bastard.

A-ha! Here I was thinking somebody had just replaced Hillary's simulated human faceplate, and turned down the pitch control on her robotic speech synthesis program.

257 MarkX  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:49:29pm

re: #214 Dolphin

You'll find it was taken out of context.


Surprise!

/

258 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:49:49pm

re: #235 Ward Cleaver

It's called the Lizard Lounge.

Is that what goes on in there. My wife forbids me from going into lounges.
;-)

259 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:49:50pm

re: #247 LanceKates

No no, it's ok. I think I'm more bothered by my rememberance of it than your mistake.

oh, crap... here it comes again.

< begin nerdity >

After the destruction of Alderaan, the Emperor gave the 60k or so survivors (who were off-world at the time) a place to live on his 'resort world' as an act of appeasement for the destruction of their planet. In fact, they were quickly turned into slaves.

Princess Leia, after the Empire was destroyed and the New Republic was put in place, bought a ship and named it the Alderaan.

You aren't nearly as big a nerd as I am. The name of that planet was Empress Teta.

260 NoSubmission  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:49:50pm

re: #239 ted

My Moonbat Liberal, Democrat Votin', Self-Hating, Synagogue going, Non Pointy Carrying Weapon of Any kind Jewish Brother calls Wright "Charismatic"

BARF!

261 Last Mohican  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:49:54pm

re: #239 ted

My Moonbat Liberal, Democrat Votin', Self-Hating, Synagogue going, Non Pointy Carrying Weapon of Any kind Jewish Brother calls Wright "Charismatic"

Seems like a lot of us have one of those.

262 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:50:01pm

re: #197 Silhouette

Double *sigh*

It is Leia Organa, not Organia.

Ooo... good catch!

It didn't LOOK right, but I wasn't about to go look it up.

263 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:50:15pm

Testicle bill dangles over Fla. legislators

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - They're proudly displayed by any self-respecting bull, but dangling big metal ones on the back end of a truck could be banned in Florida.

Metal replicas of bull testicles have become trendy bumper ornaments in some parts of the Sunshine State, but state Sen. Carey Baker is campaigning to ban the orbs.

OK.

264 _remembertonyc  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:50:24pm

when wright gave his speech this AM, he took a page right out of the HAMAS playbook. As if giving food to poor folks made all of his destructive ideas OK.

no wonder the left loves this guy ... he even cited jimmy carter in his defense of his own views.

wright/farrakhan are the domestic version of HAMAS and their ilk.

265 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:50:32pm

re: #232 Egfrow

I didn't know Wright was a former or current slave.

Only in his mind.

266 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:50:45pm

re: #234 Bobibutu

This video is especially entertaining: Obama is a mack daddy!

267 ted  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:50:56pm

re: #249 paxnhymn

Pax....you're right...I tried my best...i told him Hitler was described as "charismatic" too.

268 CapeCoddah  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:50:57pm

re: #253 Endangered in MASS
UMMM. No. Great views, though. If I was ever forced to leave the Cape, I would go to the Randolph area.

269 looking closely  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:50:57pm

re: #238 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And to be really nerdish, it was Moff Tarkin who ordered Alderaan to be destroyed.

I think someone does need to hear a little more Muff Talkin, if you know what I mean.

270 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:51:05pm

re: #255 LanceKates

My liberal half-brother has suggested that a President Obama VP Hillary might be assassinated.

That would be awful. Take that KOS!

271 HelloDare  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:51:38pm

The problem is more than Wright. It's Black Liberation Theology.

Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.
272 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:51:49pm

re: #263 Ben Hur

Testicle bill dangles over Fla. legislators

OK.

I see the FL legislature is taking care of important business.

273 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:51:51pm
274 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:52:13pm

re: #259 Fat Jolly Penguin

You aren't nearly as big a nerd as I am. The name of that planet was Empress Teta.

Either that or Byss. The Emperor had a few playgrounds.

275 infidelia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:52:17pm

re: #247 LanceKates

No no, it's ok. I think I'm more bothered by my rememberance of it than your mistake.

oh, crap... here it comes again.

< begin nerdity >

After the destruction of Alderaan, the Emperor gave the 60k or so survivors (who were off-world at the time) a place to live on his 'resort world' as an act of appeasement for the destruction of their planet. In fact, they were quickly turned into slaves.

Princess Leia, after the Empire was destroyed and the New Republic was put in place, bought a ship and named it the Alderaan.

I bow to your far superior nerdity.

276 Sol Roth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:52:34pm

re: #238 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And to be really nerdish, it was Moff Tarkin who ordered Alderaan to be destroyed.

You are officially the biggest pimple ranching nerd of the thread. Cyberfive!

277 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:52:35pm

re: #247 LanceKates

Girl I'm pursuing named her cat Alderaan.

278 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:52:40pm
...His views on Farrakhan and Israel? "Louis said 20 years ago that Zionism, not Judaism, was a gutter religion. He was talking about the same thing United Nations resolutions say, the same thing now that President Carter's being vilified for and Bishop Tutu's being vilified for. And everybody wants to paint me as if I'm anti-Semitic because of what Louis Farrakhan said 20 years ago. He is one of the most important voices in the 20th and 21st century(NATION OF ISLAM); that's what I think about him. . . . Louis Farrakhan is not my enemy (WRIGHT"S A CHRISTIAN). He did not put me in chains, he did not put me in slavery, and he didn't make me this color.

Taqiyya Baby!

279 HelloDare  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:52:42pm

re: #256 Last Mohican

A-ha! Here I was thinking somebody had just replaced Hillary's simulated human faceplate, and turned down the pitch control on her robotic speech synthesis program.

That, too.

280 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:52:59pm

re: #238 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And to be really nerdish, it was Moff Tarkin who ordered Alderaan to be destroyed.

Well, he was under orders of the Emperor.

Not mentioned in the movie.

Bail was not submitting to the Emperor, and this growing rebellion was being supported by people on his world, so the destruction was to take place in order to quash anyone who would think of rising up against the Emperor.

281 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:53:15pm

re: #255 LanceKates

My liberal half-brother has suggested that a President Obama VP Hillary might be assassinated.

Yeah, but I'll bet it's for different reasons......In my speculation, it would be Hillary taking out Obama to gain the presidency.

I'm just guessing your half-brother is thinking a third, racist or misogynist party would be involved.

282 Dianna  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:53:17pm

re: #165 godfrey

I'm not entirely sure there's a difference, except that Pat Robertson's nuts.

283 Sol Roth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:53:45pm

re: #244 Silhouette

And Grand Moff Tarkin blew up Alderaan.

Sir Hillary is in a galaxy far, far away? I though she was in Indiana....

284 BulgarWheat  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:53:49pm

re: #273 taxfreekiller

A lot of it seems to be here TFK.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

285 NoSubmission  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:54:04pm

re: #261 Last Mohican

Seems like a lot of us have one of those.

Not one single moonbat or liberal in my entire family.

286 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:54:16pm

re: #263 Ben Hur

Testicle bill dangles over Fla. legislators

OK.

Film at 11.

287 Silhouette  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:54:19pm

I named two fish Biggs and Wedge, Luke's backup on the famous trench run. Biggs (the fish) died right away just like his namesake. Wedge lived for a couple of years.

spoooooooooky.

Okay, not really.

288 zombie  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:54:24pm

re: #157 doppelganglander

That'll happen right after I get apologies from Egypt for enslaving the Israelites and England for starving the Irish.

Actually, hate to say it, I think the British did apologize for starving the Irish.

There is a huge push for nationwide apologies going on across the globe. Some countries (usually left-o-fied countries) cave in, others don't.

Australia just apologized to Aborigines earlier this year for wrongs which (as Andrew Bolt pointed out) are entirely imaginary.

The US apologized to descendents of Japanese-Americans in WWII internment camps and actually paid reparations to them.

France apologized for something in the colonial past -- I forget what.

Germany apologized to the world for the whole Hitler phase.

Pope JPII apologized for various misdeeds during the Inquisition.

Members of the Botha government in South Africa apologized for Apartheid.

In none of these cases did the apology or payment stop the whining, the victim-game, the vilification of the putative oppressor.

Wright acts like if the US goverement apologized for slavery -- even though it was not the US governement's fault, or US policy, but state's policies -- then black nationalists like him would suddenly say, "Well alright then! Apology accepted! Now I love America and white people!" But of course any apologies/reparations would do nothing of the sort -- they would only increase the whining and demands for more groveling.

Turkey was asked to apologize for the Armenian genocide, and refused.

Japan was asked to apologize for the Rape of Nanking -- and refused.

And as much as I admit those two (as examples) episodes in history were horrific, I somewhat understand where Turkey and Japan are coming from, because the apology won't change anything.

The Turks say, "That was the Ottomans -- has nothing to do with modern Turkey." The Japanese say, "That was the Imperial pre-WWII government -- has nothing to do with modern Japanese government." And in a sense they're right.

Why should the present-day US government apologize for what individual states did 230 years ago?

Yes, Armenian genocide, Rape of Nanking, slavery -- all horrific. But it is not the fault of the current government or anyone still left alive.

289 looking closely  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:54:37pm

re: #263 Ben Hur

Testicle bill dangles over Fla. legislators


Personally, I prefer the classic "fuzzy dice" for vehicular masculine "compensation", but hey. . .to each his (or her) "own".

I can just see the headline now: "Florida State legislature bans testicles".

290 Sol Roth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:54:39pm

Alright, dueling nerds!

291 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:54:49pm

re: #273 taxfreekiller

TFK, I have been trying to put together a video of this familial connection for about a month now.

I find this, even more so than the weather underground, more interesting as it relates to the connections of this group.

Furthermore, it is also very interesting to note, Louie and Jerry going to visit Libya in the early 90's.

Right about the same time Muumaar was supporting Odinga.

292 infidelia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:54:51pm

re: #276 Sol Roth

You are officially the biggest pimple ranching nerd of the thread. Cyberfive!

Of Star Wars nerdity, yes. However, I throw down the gauntlet to any Harry Potter nerds out there. Understand that as a recovering Rowling addict this could be dangerous, however.

293 ted  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:55:07pm

re: #252 infidelia

Exactly..Then he goes for the moral equivalence shtick: " Well, you know how you Conservatives speak in your groups.

I told we don't. It's his[yours] BS.

294 rabidsquirrel  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:55:10pm

re: #259 Fat Jolly Penguin

You aren't nearly as big a nerd as I am. The name of that planet was Empress Teta.

Cut it out, or I'll take away your pretend light-sabres and send to bed without dinner.

295 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:55:15pm

re: #259 Fat Jolly Penguin

You aren't nearly as big a nerd as I am. The name of that planet was Empress Teta.

It was Byss.

296 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:55:19pm

re: #259 Fat Jolly Penguin

You aren't nearly as big a nerd as I am. The name of that planet was Empress Teta.

Empress Teta is the name of a planetary system, not a planet. You're all forgetting about New Alderaan, anyways.

297 amphibian  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:55:20pm

Hoo-boy. Oh, man. Keep talking, Jerry. Just keep talking, and it'll be popcorn for the lizards come August.

298 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:55:24pm

re: #255 LanceKates

My liberal half-brother has suggested that a President Obama VP Hillary might be assassinated.

Gonna take this a step further.

I would proudly step in front of a bullet to save President Barack, President Hillary, or President McCain. The idea of any POTUS assassination is a horrible.

299 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:55:30pm

re: #238 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And to be really nerdish, it was Moff Tarkin who ordered Alderaan to be destroyed.

Thati's Grand Moff Tarkin to you.

300 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:55:37pm

re: #278 Egfrow

Elikia M’bokolo, April 1998, Le Monde diplomatique. Quote:"The African continent was bled of its human resources via all possible routes. Across the Sahara, through the Red Sea, from the Indian Ocean ports and across the Atlantic. At least ten centuries of slavery for the benefit of the Muslim countries (from the ninth to the nineteenth)." He continues: "Four million slaves exported via the Red Sea, another four million through the Swahili ports of the Indian Ocean, perhaps as many as nine million along the trans-Saharan caravan route, and eleven to twenty million (depending on the author) across the Atlantic Ocean"[1]

301 debutaunt  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:55:52pm

re: #68 Cygnus

I'm not sure when, but it was an apology for the detention camps on the west coast.

Right after they made amends for the Bataan Death March?

302 Dolphin  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:55:53pm

re: #231 Silhouette

John 10:16 And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd

Interesting that JW chose this passage, Jesus said it to unite, he chose it to divide.

New International Version
14"I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."

303 opnion  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:56:06pm

Why should he apologize? He is not sorry. He despises this country & Barry went way out of his way for twenty years to hear the vitriol.
Someone posted earlier that Wright was not a Marine , but a Navy corpsman attached to the Marines & never went to Viet Nam.
Anybody know anything about that?

304 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:56:16pm

re: #277 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Girl I'm pursuing named her cat Alderaan.

She's a keeper!

305 Sol Roth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:56:28pm

re: #288 zombie

Are you a zombie or an encyclopedia?

306 ted  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:56:33pm

re: #261 Last Mohican

We all have family skeletons in our closets.

307 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:56:43pm

re: #281 eschew_obfuscation

could be. I don't talk politics with him.

He is a liberal.

308 kiwiviv  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:56:50pm

re: #282 Dianna

I'm not entirely sure there's a difference, except that Pat Robertson's nuts.

I'm sorry everyone - but there is a HUGE difference between Pat Robertson and Rev. Wright. And there is a HUGE difference between the way Robertson gets smacked down when he says stupid things and the standing ovations Rev. Wright get s all over the place. There is definitely a HUGE difference in their theology.

309 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:57:01pm

re: #295 LanceKates

It was Byss.

I fixed it. (#274)

310 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:57:04pm

re: #264 _remembertonyc

Excellent analogy!

311 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:57:05pm

re: #285 NoSubmission

Not one single moonbat or liberal in my entire family.

they're all married?

*grin*

312 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:57:15pm
313 infidelia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:57:18pm

re: #286 Cygnus

Film at 11.

Anybody else ever seen an entire tray of the real ones? They used to sell them on 9th Ave. in NYC of all places.

My brother is moving back from Florida nest month. If he shows up with those bull balls on his SUV I swear I'll turn him in.

314 yochanan  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:57:24pm

O. T.

currently snowing in chicago right now.

315 wolfie  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:57:29pm

re: #100 Iron Mike

I'm waiting for my apology from the Catholic church, for the Inquisition, Phillip II of Spain, persecution of Protestants in Holland.

I want an apology from Protestants for what Oliver Cromwell did to Irish Catholics, and from the Swiss Calvinists for what they did to my Anabaptist ancestors, and from the English for occupying my French homeland in the Middle Ages, and from the Spanish for enslaving my Aymara Indian ancestors, and from the gringos for making jokes about Hispanics, and from Americans for chasing my Loyalist ancestors out of here after the Revolution, and from Loyalists for shooting at my Patriot ancestors, and and and most of all I want an apology from my big brother for eating that last cupcake Oct 16, 1971.

316 BulgarWheat  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:57:32pm

re: #306 ted

If there are going to be any skeletons in this family, I'm going to make damn sure that it's me.

heh

317 Silhouette  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:57:33pm

As an typical white person American, genetically decended from so many different groups and nationalities that we lose count, I officially apologize to myself for everything that this particular percentage of DNA did to that particular percentage, up to and including if either parent hurt the other one's feelings.

318 zombie  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:57:44pm

re: #273 taxfreekiller

BaBazee
Charles
Zombie

etal

Does lgf's know who Raila Odinga of Kenya is?

Does lgf's have knowledge of this Raila Odinga being related to Obama,
and if they have phone contact, did or does Obama have ties to a thing called "Friends of Obama" and did this org. give money to the opposition campaign in Kenya in the last campaign, is this guy Raila Odinga , Obama's cousin or part of Obama's fathers family there,
and can we find out if Raila got his education in commie East Germany prior?

It's on my list of things to investigate for my Obama expose page (which I'll put up if he gets the nomination.) He's supposedly Obama's cousin. Don't know if that's confirmed.

319 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:58:09pm

re: #298 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wouldn't like it, but if it were my job, I'd still do it.

320 looking closely  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:58:13pm

re: #296 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Empress Teta is the name of a planetary system, not a planet. You're all forgetting about New Alderaan, anyways.

You know, I half wish Americans were as knowledgeable about ACTUAL history and geography as you geek are about fake Star Wars counterpoints.

/back to fondling my fake car nuts now. . .

321 _remembertonyc  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:58:15pm

278 egfrow ... wright said that when farrakhan speaks, the black community listens. which is not true. i am no supporter of screwy louie, but one thing farrakhan said is that that black males need to take responsibility for their families, but far too many do just the opposite. so wright is wrong on that.

just so we are clear, i loathe farrakhan. my point is that much of the black community does NOT listen to him. only a fringe following does. And wright's church probably has a number of them as members.

as they say, mussolini got the trains to run on time, so even loathsome men can do some things well. but it doesn't make up for all of the bad stuff.

322 chukardog  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:58:36pm

Jeremiah the talking douche nozzle. You and Michelle please keep up the good work at ensuring Barry the Marxist never holds higher office again.
Insert Dean scream > here< Yeaeeargh!

323 paxnhymn  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:58:50pm

re: #286 Cygnus

Film at 11.

TRUCK NUTS!

:-D

324 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:58:51pm

re: #304 LanceKates

She's a keeper!

If I can catch her. She also owns two guns & votes Republican. She's not perfect though - it's not like she owns a liquor store.

325 Sol Roth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:58:55pm

re: #296 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Empress Teta is the name of a planetary system, not a planet. You're all forgetting about New Alderaan, anyways.

Only a bona-fide nerd could use that without any hint as to the Spanish-to-English interpretation. Like a contractor calling a building "an erection."

326 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:59:00pm

re: #309 Fat Jolly Penguin

I fixed it. (#274)

I saw that after I posted. heh.

If only one could make a living spouting random star trek nerdity, eh?

327 ted  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:59:32pm

re: #311 LanceKates

Damn Lucky.

328 jamgarr  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:59:33pm

Apology first
Then _________ (what?)

/I must have missed that part

329 zombie  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:59:34pm

re: #305 Sol Roth

Are you a zombie or an encyclopedia?

A little of both.

330 shiplord kirel  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:59:39pm

OT

My brother in Iraq has e-mailed that American troops in Baghdad used 120 mm canister shot to repel Sadrist attackers yesterday. This is basically a giant shotgun shell (1140 tungsten balls) fired by tank guns, the modern version of Napoleon clearing the streets with a whiff of grapeshot. The Tater Tots attacked en masse during a godawful dust storm that had grounded allied drones and most other aircraft. Stupid Tots, they thought they might have a chance with airpower out of the picture, only to run into our tanks, 38 "militants" were killed.

331 Silhouette  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:59:39pm

re: #320 looking closely

You know, I half wish Americans were as knowledgeable about ACTUAL history and geography as you geek are about fake Star Wars counterpoints. .

326-3827

;-)

332 offendi  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:59:49pm

So it is 3 a.m., President Barack Obama gets " the call". What side of his brain will he thinking with, and why?
Good question for the debate in the general election?

Unfortuantely McCain appears to be prepared to run the kind of savvy and hard-hitting campaign that Bob Dole and Bush Senior did against Clinton. In short, clueless and out-of-touch. Will he be walking around in a daze repeating " we're the party of Lincoln"?

333 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 1:59:54pm

re: #312 taxfreekiller

How much more do the Clinton's know and when will they play the cards

Just had that discussion with the wife......it's been awfully tame so far and most of the damage on both sides has been self-inflicted.

334 NoSubmission  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:00:05pm

re: #311 LanceKates

they're all married?
*grin*


I'm not....

335 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:00:10pm

re: #318 zombie

Zombie, I have been putting together his family tree from that side.

I am working up to that.

336 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:00:13pm

re: #296 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Empress Teta is the name of a planetary system, not a planet. You're all forgetting about New Alderaan, anyways.

Yeah, but that wasn't set up until after the fall of the Empire.

337 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:00:40pm

re: #320 looking closely

You
know, I half wish Americans were as knowledgeable about ACTUAL history
and geography as you geek are about fake Star Wars counterpoints.

/back to fondling my fake car nuts now. . .

Hey, I'm as knowledgable about real history as I am Star Wars history. I've noticed that history buffs tend to like Star Wars.

338 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:00:49pm

re: #300 Kenneth

Can you imagine the utter nonsense of a Christian man who blames American for Slavery who worships a Muslim Man who's religion flourished from the Slavery Trade and were in fact the actual original enslavers of blacks?

It gives me a headache to attempt even to rationalize this train of thought. Uh, and we mix in Stalinist anti-sematic Communism worshiping as the rotten cherry to top off this big pile of S*#T we have to bite off.

339 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:00:53pm

re: #320 looking closely

You know, I half wish Americans were as knowledgeable about ACTUAL history and geography as you geek are about fake Star Wars counterpoints.

/back to fondling my fake car nuts now. . .

Heh. It'd be nice, wouldn't it?

340 rabidsquirrel  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:01:09pm

re: #324 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

If I can catch her. She also owns two guns & votes Republican. She's not perfect though - it's not like she owns a liquor store.

Is she 3 feet tall with a flat space on her head?

341 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:01:13pm

re: #296 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Empress Teta is the name of a planetary system, not a planet. You're all forgetting about New Alderaan, anyways.

I swear, this is my last nerdy post. Empress Teta was the name of the system as well as the main planet.

342 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:01:22pm

re: #313 infidelia

Anybody else ever seen an entire tray of the real ones? They used to sell them on 9th Ave. in NYC of all places.

My brother is moving back from Florida nest month. If he shows up with those bull balls on his SUV I swear I'll turn him in.

I saw a pair on a truck recently. They were blue. Brrrrrr!

343 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:01:24pm

re: #324 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

If I can catch her. She also owns two guns & votes Republican. She's not perfect though - it's not like she owns a liquor store.

You either get her or send her my way.

344 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:01:25pm

re: #328 jamgarr

Apology first
Then _________ (what?)

/I must have missed that part

Phase I: Get Apology
Phase II: ?
Phase III: PROFIT!

345 Daisy  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:01:33pm

Hope the MSM keeps up the Wright worship service. He just might completely destroy Obama, Lord of the Moonbats.

Self-loathing Moonbats always make the same mistake when they separate out "the Government" (they hate) from "the people" (they also hate but pretend to care for).

Note to Moonbats: We in the USA live in a Representative Republic - you know - Of, By and For the people.

346 wolfie  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:01:39pm

re: #259 Fat Jolly Penguin

You aren't nearly as big a nerd as I am. The name of that planet was Empress Teta.

Has this become a Spanish boob thread?!

347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:02:06pm

re: #319 LanceKates

I wouldn't like it, but if it were my job, I'd still do it.

It is our job. Who says that Secret Service is only responsible. Just don't like the discussion of a Presidential Assassination.

Don't think it is proper discussion material.

Osama Bin Laden...we can talk about vaporizing him any time.

348 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:02:20pm

re: #334 NoSubmission

I'm not....

you ought to be kept happy for the remainder of your life.

You're a good one.

349 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:02:46pm

re: #341 Fat Jolly Penguin

I swear, this is my last nerdy post. Empress Teta was the name of the system as well as the main planet.

I stand corrected. I always knew it as Cinnegar.

350 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:02:49pm

I wonder what the strategy is here. Wouldn't Obama want Wright to shut up? Maybe they figure this keeps Obama in the news and is a good thing with a fairly uncritical press. It does mean that Obama has to answer fewer questions about capital gains and unrealistic social programs. Either way I don't think Rev Wright is going to become a factor in the election.

351 infidelia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:02:53pm

re: #314 yochanan

O. T.

currently snowing in chicago right now.

Just. Don't. Send. It. Here.

352 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:02:55pm

re: #288 zombie

Looks to me as if - with the exception of Pope John Paul II - all the apologising governments were run by lefties at the time of apologising ...
Correct me if I'm wrong.

353 ted  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:03:05pm

Grand Mufti of CNN Jack Cafferty in favor another HillBarry " Lincoln-Douglas" Debate.

354 opnion  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:03:17pm

re: #318 zombie

It's on my list of things to investigate for my Obama expose page (which I'll put up if he gets the nomination.) He's supposedly Obama's cousin. Don't know if that's confirmed.

Obama campaigned for this Islamist, for president of Kenya.
He refers to him as a friend. Odinga says that they are cousins.
I will be interested to see what you find out.

355 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:03:18pm

re: #347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It is our job. Who says that Secret Service is only responsible. Just don't like the discussion of a Presidential Assassination.

Don't think it is proper discussion material.

Osama Bin Laden...we can talk about vaporizing him any time.

Oh, I don't condone any such action, just noting that even my brother in law would expect obama to be offed if Hillary were the vp.

and he's a liberal.

356 infidelia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:03:20pm

re: #349 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Um. Was "Empress Teta" supposed to be singular or plural?

357 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:03:33pm

re: #346 wolfie

Has this become a Spanish boob thread?!

Which should bring Occasional Reader around in 3, 2, 1,...

358 Daisy  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:03:41pm

re: #7 schultzw

Capische?

Is that another reference to "garlic nosed Italians"? Just that one word of his makes me itch to slap his dumb face. Several times.

359 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:03:57pm

re: #302 Dolphin

Interesting that JW chose this passage, Jesus said it to unite, he chose it to divide.

New International Version
14"I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."

Gal. 3 --
26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Col. 3 --
11 Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.

Two verses with similar theme, which raises the importance of the message.

The message is there are no racial, class, status, gender distinctions in the church.

Anyone preaching distinctions is not preaching the Word of God.

360 Bobibutu  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:04:14pm

re: #330 shiplord kirel

OT

My brother in Iraq has e-mailed that American troops in Baghdad used 120 mm canister shot to repel Sadrist attackers yesterday. This is basically a giant shotgun shell (1140 tungsten balls) fired by tank guns, the modern version of Napoleon clearing the streets with a whiff of grapeshot. The Tater Tots attacked en masse during a godawful dust storm that had grounded allied drones and most other aircraft. Stupid Tots, they thought they might have a chance with airpower out of the picture, only to run into our tanks, 38 "militants" were killed.

Bill Roggio has more.

[Link: www.longwarjournal.org...]

361 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:04:16pm

Slavery Within Africa

There is adequate evidence citing case after case of African control of segments of the trade. Several African nations such as the Ashanti of Ghana and the Yoruba of Nigeria had economies largely depending on the trade. African peoples such as the Imbangala of Angola and the Nyamwezi of Tanzania would serve as intermediaries or roving bands warring with other African nations to capture Africans for Europeans. Extenuating circumstances demanding exploration are the tremendous efforts European officials in Africa used to install rulers agreeable to their interests. They would actively favor one African group against another to deliberately ignite chaos and continue their slaving activities.[3].

I post this historical evidence not to excuse or apologize for European and American slavery, but to point out the fact that slavery has existed in all parts of the world for many centuries. Specifically, slavery was practiced by Africans and continues their today.

Farrakhan's NOI actively spreads the propaganda that there is no genocide in Darfur. They defend the Islamist regime in Sudan even while they enslave the black Africans of Darfur.

362 infidelia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:04:57pm

re: #296 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Don't want a new one. Didn't like the old one in the first place.

363 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:05:03pm

re: #350 Killgore Trout

Killgore, I've been wondering if they are just trying to burn this thing out in the event he is picked for the nomination, and does not want to have to answer these questions in the general election.

Wright fatigue.

Kind of like Bill's sex drive.

364 zombie  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:05:39pm

re: #352 yma o hyd

Looks to me as if - with the exception of Pope John Paul II - all the apologising governments were run by lefties at the time of apologising ...
Correct me if I'm wrong.

You are correct.

it is a leftist ailment, this need to grovel and beg for forgiveness.

365 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:05:56pm

And the phony sob gives a shout out to a couple of token Jews. *spit*

366 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:06:08pm

re: #338 Egfrow

Amen!

367 paxnhymn  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:06:13pm

re: #361 Kenneth


"Farrakhan's NOI actively spreads the propaganda that there is no genocide in Darfur. They defend the Islamist regime in Sudan even while they enslave the black Africans of Darfur"

that's because he' seen no evidence of it from the mother ship cameras...

///need I?

368 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:06:55pm

re: #356 infidelia

Um. Was "Empress Teta" supposed to be singular or plural?

In addition to being a word for Spanish boobies, Teta is Serbo-Croat for "aunt."

In Spanish language, Teta is a rude word to refer to a woman's breasts.

In Slovenian, Croatian, Czech, and Slovakian, "teta" is the word for "aunt". Teta was also the Czech mythical magician, who is said to have been the daughter of the equally mythical Czech ruler Krok

.
369 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:07:03pm
370 Dustyvet  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:07:03pm

Wright';s digging a deep hole, that Obama might find it very difficult to climb out of.

371 Charles  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:07:27pm

Fox News has already put together a "greatest hits" reel from this speech.

372 ben-ami  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:07:30pm

re: #44 paxnhymn

errr excuse me..but when did we apologize to japan?

Wright isn't very good about fact - and I'm not even talking about where HIV came from. In his GD America sermon, he said that the ERA was part of the Constitution.

373 yma o hyd  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:08:13pm

re: #317 Silhouette

As an typical white person American, genetically decended from so many different groups and nationalities that we lose count, I officially apologize to myself for everything that this particular percentage of DNA did to that particular percentage, up to and including if either parent hurt the other one's feelings.

Fine - but what about your siblings?
Need to apologise to them as well!

374 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:08:17pm

re: #361 Kenneth

Slavery Within Africa


I post this historical evidence not to excuse or apologize for European and American slavery, but to point out the fact that slavery has existed in all parts of the world for many centuries. Specifically, slavery was practiced by Africans and continues their today.

Farrakhan's NOI actively spreads the propaganda that there is no genocide in Darfur. They defend the Islamist regime in Sudan even while they enslave the black Africans of Darfur.

The massacre in Darfur is directly related to gun control. Guns were taken away from the civilians, both by law and by forced poverty.

Then the mass killings began.

It is a cycle that only firearms and freedom can dismantle.

When has the left been concerned with either firearms OR freedom? (Never, which is why they fail)

375 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:08:26pm

re: #361 Kenneth

And history has also recorded that from the beginning American was one of the first nations who tried to remove slavery from the earth. The Constitution was a huge compromise, The counted slaves as less than a full vote to reduce the voting power of the Southern States. Madison insisted several times that Slaves must be free but could not get the votes to ratify.

376 Ojoe  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:08:45pm

Union Dead at Gettysburg

Lincoln enters Richmond

"While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us swear allegiance to a land that's free,
Let us all be grateful for a land so fair,
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer. "

God Bless America,
Land that I love.
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America, My home sweet home.

377 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:08:49pm

re: #363 formercorpsman

Wright fatigue.


That's a pretty good theory.

378 Salem  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:08:50pm

When will we start to hear grumbling on the left that Obomba himself is just another puppet of the VRWC? That should be fun.

379 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:08:59pm

re: #369 taxfreekiller

IIRC, Dick Morris actually helped with the election for Odinga over there.

Interesting stuff.

380 Dolphin  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:09:03pm

re: #359 jcm

Thank you. I have been studying the Old Testament lately, guess it is time to go back and read some of the New - lol!

Gal. 3 --
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Isn't that beautiful?!

381 AndyMacOP  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:09:17pm

Apologizing for slavery will cure all the ills in America.

/sarc

Politically incorrect moment: He should apologize to himself. The video makes him look more Irish than me!

382 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:09:27pm

I'm gonna go way out on a limb here, but, Rev Wright is a racist.

383 Daisy  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:09:43pm

re: #80 kiwiviv

Do you think the AFRICANS should apologize for capturing various tribes and sending them off to slavery?

When/where should all these APOLOGIES start and finish?

The Maori people of New Zealand want the whites to APOLOGIZE also, but they ATE the people who were in NZ when they arrived. Very few of the original people survive to this day - they need an APOLOGY don't they?

Maybe he meant that we should apologize for (first England, thank you very much, and then) the USA's civil abolishment of slavery (thank you Christianity) -- for the first time ever in history. Meanwhile, back in Arabia, Africa, etc. pretty much same old same old. The Western colonialists abolished slavery in these parts of the world. Colonialists gone -- slavery came right back.

384 Russkilitlover  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:09:51pm

re: #285 NoSubmission

Not one single moonbat or liberal in my entire family.

My bro is a moonbat. Only one in the family. Also the only one who got college paid for 100% by mom and dad, lived at home rent free until he was almost 30, married a woman who he knocked up. Divorced 2 kids later and moved back in rent free with mom. Huh. Wonder why he's a moonbat!

385 Empire1  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:09:58pm

Whew! Looks like we got missed by the twisters this time; the line's gone past. We did get a brief downpour -- something like 1/8" in 5 minutes -- but that's not too bad. Dover got more than we did, going by the radar, but I haven't heard of any damage there --

OK, tornado warning is gone, just severe thunderstorm warning.

-- Ann

386 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:10:20pm
387 paxnhymn  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:10:23pm

re: #378 Salem

When will we start to hear grumbling on the left that Obomba himself is just another puppet of the VRWC? That should be fun.


either way I think this has torpedoed Obamessiah's chances...
anyone seen a recnt poll today? Betcha there's a slide a startin'...

388 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:10:50pm

re: #338 Egfrow

And can you imagine if the headlines tomorrow morning were about McCain's preacher spouting white supremacist racist garbage and that he had ties to right wing extremist militia types? McCain's campaign and career would be over by the end of the day. And no speech about "a dialog on race" with a comment about "typical black folks" would save him.

Double standard anyone?

389 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:11:25pm

Is this the teta thread?

390 ted  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:11:40pm

re: #376 Ojoe

Incredible.

391 ex cathedra  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:11:40pm

re: #318 zombie

It's on my list of things to investigate for my Obama expose page (which I'll put up if he gets the nomination.) ...

Has it been confirmed that Obama was ever baptized, do you know? I hear conflicting reports about it.

392 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:11:43pm

I read somewhere that Wright was a Muslim prior to going "Christian". Is this a fact?

393 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:11:49pm

re: #389 Occasional Reader

Is this the teta thread?

this is the "Wright is a racist and Star Wars is cool" thread.

394 formercorpsman  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:12:10pm

re: #392 Egfrow

Yes, he was a member of the NOI.

395 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:12:11pm

Rev J Wright.

Grand Mufti of America.

396 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:12:23pm

re: #393 LanceKates

this is the "Wright is a racist and Star Wars is cool" thread.

That's just the facts of life right there.

397 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:12:27pm

re: #392 Egfrow

I read somewhere that Wright was a Muslim prior to going "Christian". Is this a fact?

Don't know about that, but he was a marine. after two years of being a marine, he made it to Private First Class, then transferred to the navy.

398 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:12:36pm

re: #330 shiplord kirel

My brother in Iraq has e-mailed that American troops in Baghdad used 120 mm canister shot to repel Sadrist attackers yesterday

Disproportionate response! Oop ack!

399 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:12:49pm

re: #396 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's just the facts of life right there.

Just need that and rum.

400 bosforus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:12:49pm

re: #384 Russkilitlover

My bro is a moonbat. Only one in the family. Also the only one who got college paid for 100% by mom and dad, lived at home rent free until he was almost 30, married a woman who he knocked up. Divorced 2 kids later and moved back in rent free with mom. Huh. Wonder why he's a moonbat!

Too typical. Wants everyone else to pay for what he thinks he deserves, doesn't take responsibility for his own actions, and bails into your parents' safety net when things don't go his way.

401 ted  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:12:51pm

re: #384 Russkilitlover

Mmmm... I share your pain.

402 Daisy  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:13:01pm

re: #372 ben-ami

Wright isn't very good about fact - and I'm not even talking about where HIV came from. In his GD America sermon, he said that the ERA was part of the Constitution.

And he claimed that ancient Romans were "Italians". And that Jesus was a 'Black man'. Wright does not even rise to the level of 'truthy' -- he's plain old dumb.

403 jcm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:13:04pm

re: #392 Egfrow

I read somewhere that Wright was a Muslim prior to going "Christian". Is this a fact?

Whole thread worth.

404 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:13:05pm

re: #384 Russkilitlover

My bro is a moonbat. Only one in the family. Also the only one who got college paid for 100% by mom and dad, lived at home rent free until he was almost 30, married a woman who he knocked up. Divorced 2 kids later and moved back in rent free with mom. Huh. Wonder why he's a moonbat!

He should cut out the middle man and go straight to welfare.

405 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:13:07pm

re: #395 Ben Hur

Rev J Wright.

Grand Mufti of America.

Wilhuf Tarkin.
Grand Moffti of The Empire.

406 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:13:08pm

re: #393 LanceKates

this is the "Wright is a racist and Star Wars is cool" thread.

"One of these things/is not like the other..."

407 vagabond trader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:13:19pm

re: #392 Egfrow

One of his "degrees" is Islam in Western Africa or some such mail order rubbish.

408 Sol Roth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:13:31pm

re: #382 Ben Hur

I'm gonna go way out on a limb here, but, Rev Wright is a racist.

Holy crap, really?

409 CapeCoddah  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:13:34pm

re: #382 Ben Hur

I'm gonna go way out on a limb here, but, Rev Wright is a racist.


I don't know... that limb seems pretty solid to me..

410 infidelia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:13:34pm

Request for info: what search words would be best to look for information on reports from "tourists" visiting Germany in the 1930s? (I ask because there was a puff piece on Iran in the Weekly Telegraph and I'm looking for parallels.)

411 eff plus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:13:38pm

re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks

412 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:13:43pm

re: #402 Daisy

And he claimed that ancient Romans were "Italians". And that Jesus was a 'Black man'. Wright does not even rise to the level of 'truthy' -- he's plain old dumb.

reminds me of the people trying to push the "Jesus was an illegal immigrant!" agenda.

413 godfrey  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:13:47pm
a government whose policies grind under people

Ah, that explains all this immigration.

414 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:13:52pm
415 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:13:52pm

re: #375 Egfrow

Denmark was the first country in the world to outlaw slavery in all forms, in 1804 (or there abouts). England followed a few decades later, and the US.

Saudi Arabia offically outlawed slavery in 1965.

It's still legal in Sudan, Niger and several other Muslim African countries.

416 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:14:08pm

re: #392 Egfrow

Wright was a member of the NOI

417 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:14:19pm

re: #402 Daisy

And he claimed that ancient Romans were "Italians". And that Jesus was a 'Black man'. Wright does not even rise to the level of 'truthy' -- he's plain old dumb.

Don't forget about the Roman Marine Division.

(Don't even ask about the ancient Roman paratroopers... man, did THAT get messy fast...)

418 Ojoe  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:14:21pm

re: #390 ted

There's nothing more I can say at this point

Others have said it anyway

419 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:14:27pm

Park commemorates Australian military charge in 1917 in s. Israel

Australian and Israeli heads of state on Monday dedicated a park that celebrates the contributions of Australia's military to events that led to creation of the State of Israel.

Major General Michael Jeffery is the first Australian governor-general to visit Israel. He and President Shimon Peres opened the Park of the Australian Soldier in the southern city of Beersheba to celebrate Israel's 60th anniversary. "The distance between Australia and Israel is far geographically, but morally we are very close," Peres said.

He and Jeffery unveiled a sculpture commemorating the Australian Light Horse Brigade's famous World War I charge against Turkish forces in Beersheba.

The battle was the beginning of the end for Turkish rule in the Holy Land. It cleared the way for Britain to sign the 1917 Balfour declaration that contributed to the creation of a Jewish state.

At the park's dedication, young Israeli soldiers mixed with Australian veterans in full dress uniform as Governor General Jeffery praised the park for "permanently uniting Israelis with Australia."

Who did the Arabs fight with?

Who did the Jews fight with?

Open bottle of WWII. Rinse. Repeat.

Open bottle of Cold War. Rinse. Repeat.

Open bottle of War on Terror. Rinse. Repeat.

420 mattm  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:14:30pm

He is both one of the most condescending assholes on the face of the earth AND the gift that keeps on giving. I forgot, he is a racist too.

421 Sol Roth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:14:33pm

re: #389 Occasional Reader

Is this the teta thread?

And the Grand Muff of Hillzebub as well.

422 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:14:43pm

re: #406 Occasional Reader

"One of these things/is not like the other..."

Actually, the Emperor was a xenophobic....

(it is like 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon! only star wars!)

423 Daisy  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:14:52pm

re: #395 Ben Hur

Rev J Wright.

Grand Mufti of America.

Yup. Exactly. Who cares about accuracy when you can rant and rave like a loon?

424 Salem  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:14:52pm

re: #128 Honorary Yooper

There were a few suggestions in the last Wright thread that this may be past of the BH Obama strategy. Get Wright out of the way while Barry is ahead in delegates. Hillary cannot catch up. Then, while everyone's eyes are turned to the national election, make Wright mysteriously disappear into the background mist and focus all the attention on McCain's problems.

I wouldn't put it past the MSM to do exactly that. They are in love with Barry, and it's been their modus operandi in the past.

Naw, they know they no longer have a monopoly, so it would be a severely flawed plan. If they don't want to report on Obomba, people will turn to their inevitable successors on the internet and Fox news. The MSM has no unified strategy right now. They are in complete disarray.

425 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:15:06pm

Tetas and muftis? Now let's not take this too far.

426 Egfrow  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:15:20pm

Ok, Where is the CIA and the FBI in all of this, If regular people like us can see there is a problem, then what the hell are these agencies doing about it. They are supposed to defend us from threats foreign and domestic. I consider this type of ideologies and behavior a threat.

427 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:16:21pm

re: #397 LanceKates

Don't know about that, but he was a marine. after two years of being a marine, he made it to Private First Class, then transferred to the navy.

2 years to make PFC? That says a lot. Most people make it to PFC within their first 6 months.

428 CapeCoddah  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:16:21pm

re: #426 Egfrow
/that would be profiling, wouldn't it?

429 wolfie  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:16:36pm

re: #384 Russkilitlover

My bro is a moonbat. Only one in the family. Also the only one who got college paid for 100% by mom and dad, lived at home rent free until he was almost 30, married a woman who he knocked up. Divorced 2 kids later and moved back in rent free with mom. Huh. Wonder why he's a moonbat!

Hmmmmm....Which came first, the chicken or the egg? the spoiled slug or the moonbat? Great mystery of life.
(Sounds like my "baby" sister, BTW!)

430 Silhouette  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:16:40pm

re: #359 jcm

Gal. 3 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Can I get an AMEN?

431 offendi  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:16:49pm

Somewhere, some place, Bill Clinton is rubbing his hands together with undisguised glee, as his legacy as the last great, democratic president is preserved.

432 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:17:01pm

re: #421 Sol Roth

And the Grand Muff of Hillzebub as well.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MONTRESSOR
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

433 kiwiviv  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:17:10pm

re: #383 Daisy

Maybe he meant that we should apologize for (first England, thank you very much, and then) the USA's civil abolishment of slavery (thank you Christianity) -- for the first time ever in history. Meanwhile, back in Arabia, Africa, etc. pretty much same old same old. The Western colonialists abolished slavery in these parts of the world. Colonialists gone -- slavery came right back.

Exactly!

434 LanceKates  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:17:17pm

re: #427 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

2 years to make PFC? That says a lot. Most people make it to PFC within their first 6 months.

I should clarify.... I can't find how long it took him to GET to PFC, just that when he left after 2 years, he was a PFC.

435 paxnhymn  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:17:32pm

re: #415 Kenneth

Denmark was the first country in the world to outlaw slavery in all forms, in 1804 (or there abouts). England followed a few decades later, and the US.

Saudi Arabia offically outlawed slavery in 1965.

It's still legal in Sudan, Niger and several other Muslim African countries.

the ONLY reason al-Saud banned slavery is because they now have a practice (trust me I lived there) of luring poor Phiillipinos and others with lucrative job offers, only to seize their passports when they arrive, and voila! Undocumented free slavery!

436 wolfie  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:17:36pm

re: #390 ted

Incredible.

We were expecting you.
This is the Empress of Teta threads, my friend!

437 Daisy  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:17:42pm

re: #400 bosforus

Too typical. Wants everyone else to pay for what he thinks he deserves, doesn't take responsibility for his own actions, and bails into your parents' safety net when things don't go his way.

Hmmm/ sounds like Obamillary's version of the function of government for 'the people' - or at least some of the people - the ones who claim victim for life status.

438 Ben Hur  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:17:44pm

UK says 'significant proportion' of Iraqi insurgent weapons come from Iran

Brits: Saddam wanted yellow cake.
Bush: The Brits say that Saddam wanted yellow cake.

BUSH IS A LIAR!

Bush: Iranian weapons in Iraq.
Brits: Iranian weapons in Iraq.

BUSH IS A LIAR!

439 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:18:00pm
440 bosforus  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:18:06pm

re: #384 Russkilitlover

The problem with people like that also is that if you ever try to tell them to shape up and get their act together they get pissy and offended as if the whole world is conspiring against them.

441 Sol Roth  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:18:19pm

re: #427 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Blame whitey.

442 ted  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:18:22pm

April 28, 2008

The Moment of Truth for the Left has Arrived

By James Lewis

If you haven't listened to Jeremiah Wright's hate sermons at Hugh Hewitt's website, you must do so. Every American with open eyes and ears has to listen to the voice of racial hatred, coming not from the Klan but from a clergyman of the Christian Left. Reading his words isn't enough, because you won't hear the unmistakable meaning of his vocal intonations. If you are a person of good will you will feel upset. But it's of the utmost importance to understand this moment of truth.

Because Jeremiah Wright -- the respectful word "Reverend" seems grotesquely out of place now -- is shouting out the slander catechism of the Left. His sermons say exactly what other Leftists say in calm voices, over and over again. Mr. Wright just does it with real, raw hatred, and every new slam is cheered on by his jubilant congregation. His is not a lone voice. He just sings the music to fit the words.

We have been nursing a viper in our national bosom. Seven years after September 11, 2001, this is the moment of truth, when the Left must finally decide what side it's on. Wright's sermons may signal the end of the Obama campaign, and they may mean the breakup of the Democratic Party as we know it. I don't see how any centrist Democrat can still belong to this party if Obama is its nominee. Jeremiah Wright may mean the historical end of the Civil Rights Era, because fifty years after Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., the Left's presumption of Victimhood and innocence is now gone.

The Rev is only the visible bulge of this lethal political tumor. This is Saul Alinsky's sociopathic teachings on display, and this is what Hillary Clinton learned back at Wellesley College. It is the voice of feminists who hate all men, and of radicalized blacks who hate all whites....

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

443 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:18:59pm

re: #415 Kenneth

Saudi Arabia offically outlawed slavery in 1965.

As someone here once pointed out; at the very first UN "anti-racism" shindig, held in the early 60s, if the Saudi delegates had decided they were too busy to attend, they could have - literally - sent their slaves in their place.

444 infidelia  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:19:06pm

re: #441 Sol Roth

Blame whitey.

What did Bulger have to do with it?

445 Render  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:19:23pm

re: #410 infidelia

German-American Bund. Fritz Kuhn.

STARTER
PACK,
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446 Silhouette  Mon, Apr 28, 2008 2:19:45pm