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A Holocaust Denier at the Washington Post/Newsweek Site

Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:10:10 am PDT

The Washington Post and Newsweek have a special joint project called “On Faith” that has been running for more than a year, a special project that is thoroughly infiltrated by radical Islamists, antisemites, and Holocaust deniers, misleadingly promoted as “interfaith dialog.”

Some of the propagandists published by On Faith are relatively smooth (Tariq Ramadan), some not so smooth, and some of them are unindicted co-conspirators in ongoing terrorism trials.

In one of the worst examples, last year on July 24th they published an article on their “Muslims Speak Out” blog (billed as “What Islam Really Says About Violence, Human Rights and Other Religions”) by none other than the spiritual leader of the terrorist group Hizballah, Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah. It’s the usual litany of lies and evasions—jihad is a peaceful inner struggle, women have it great under Islam, etc. ad nauseam—and it’s accompanied by a short bio (whitewashed as much as possible, considering who he is) and a photo in which Fadlallah looks like someone’s kindly grandfather, with his black turban neatly cropped out:

Considered the leading Shi’ite Muslim Intellectual in Lebanon, Grand Ayatollah Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah is a controversial figure known primarily for his support of the armed Shi’ite resistance movement, Hezbollah and for his uncompromising stance against the State of Israel.

Well, here’s a better look at the real Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah from MEMRI TV, featuring the Washington Post/Newsweek’s favorite uncompromising Ayatollah on Hizballah’s Al-Manar TV, March 21, 2008, denying the Holocaust and accusing Israel of using it for “extortion.”

The Washington Post and Newsweek should apologize to the United States for promoting and legitimizing these repellent views in our country. (I can dream, can’t I?)

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Ayatollah Muhammad Hussein Fadhlallah: The Hebrew state is preparing to celebrate its 60th anniversary – 60 years since it plundered Palestine - in a festival, which will be attended by the countries of the world, most of which still support the Jewish state and consider the resistance movement to be terrorism. This is what led German Chancellor Merkel to visit that plundering country, which extorted and continues to extort Germany, using as a pretext the German Hitlerist-Nazi past, and the placing of the Jews in a holocaust. Zionism has inflated the number of victims in this holocaust beyond imagination. They say there were six million Jews – not six million, not three million, or anything like that... But the world accepted this [figure], and it does not allow anyone to discuss this.

UPDATE at 4/30/08 10:33:30 am:

And today, On Faith is engaged in a full court press to defend Reverend Jeremiah Wright:

The Black Church as Prophet, Patriot
What is Liberation Theology?
The Real Jeremiah Wright

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1 madisonsfriend  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:12:30am

It's the Washington Post- don't expect anything else. they are just "airing an opinion". Wonder if Arab money is pouring into the rapidly emptying WAPO coffers.

2 selpaw  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:12:51am
A Holocaust Denier

ABBAS

3 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:13:01am

Is he an Obama advisor?

4 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:14:03am
5 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:14:15am
6 Shug  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:14:26am
On Faith Filth

/renamed

7 Israel4ever  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:14:45am

Disgusting. As usual.

8 pat  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:15:53am

If such were printed here, the WaPo would condemn it.

9 chinesearithmetic  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:16:17am

They say there were six million Jews – not six million, not three million, or anything like that...

You could call it bean counting, but one of the beans was my mother's father.

10 Teacake!  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:16:33am

Were the other 5 million non-Jews a hoax as well? Come on fella, just say it straight, you just don't want a Jewish speck of sand in the middle of the islamic world.

11 Silhouette  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:16:37am

Oh, he isn't a lying, murderer-loving, terrorist-supporting anti-Semite. He's "controversial" and "uncompromising."

Truth to the power, man.

12 Athos  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:16:50am

The use of those 'code words' to redefine the reality of that bastard's position is a sure sign of an out of touch MSM.

13 mean Gene  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:17:17am

Oh Please!
If Muslims had a moral stand against ''plundering'' they would never have gotten started as a ''religion.''

14 rawmuse  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:17:19am

More nihilism from Washington, the Center of Gravity of Journalistic Nihil. One opinion is as good as any other. One action is no different than the others. There is no good or bad or morality. Everything just Is. The only thing that matters is winning.

15 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:17:42am

Jew Hate is the new Jew Hate.

16 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:17:43am

From what I can see, all religious columns in all newspapers these days are suspect.

If they haven't been infiltrated by Islamists, and peddle the "Islam-is-just-swell-can't-we-all-just-get-along? " line, they're nothing but pure pap. Better you should read C.S. Lewis, Martin Buber, Dennis Prager or Thomas Aquinas.

17 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:17:57am

Color me surprised....

/

18 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:19:03am

re: #10 Teacake!

Were the other 5 million non-Jews a hoax as well? Come on fella, just say it straight, you just don't want a Jewish speck of sand in the middle of the islamic world.

All those Jehova's Witnesses and Gypsys just went along to help in the ruse. Get your facts straight!

19 MikeAlv77  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:19:32am

I just wonder how much these so-called "journalists" have to drink in order to sleep at night. After having to write his cleaned up bio, I would need to have a gallon of whiskey. Makes one wonder what they would say about Genghis Khan... misunderstood, abused childhood..

20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:19:35am
A Holocaust Denier at the Washington Post/Newsweek Site

Well, he is among friends and likeminded fellows there

21 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:19:57am

July 24, 2007

U.S. News Media and Terror Group Figure Editorials

[SNIP]

Ongoing Problem of Jihadist Unfiltered Propaganda Using News Media

This is not a new issue, and as Steven Emerson points out in his July 24 posting, there are "American newspaper editors advocating on behalf of Hamas", such as former public editor for the Chicago Tribune.

In March 2004, Newsweek published an interview with Hizbullah supporter Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, where Newsweek acknowledged his "role as the spiritual leader of Hizbullah" but stated that he was "no longer so closely associated" with Hizbullah. The Newsweek interview focused on the U.S. 2004 elections, Iraq, suicide bombers, "the Jewish lobby" and his view that President Bush should go "to a psychiatrist".

Nearly a year earlier, on April 7, 2003, Newsweek again did an interview with Hizbullah supporter Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah.

In both cases, the interviews serve as functional "columns" for Hizbullah "supporter" Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah to provide a mainstream media source for his viewpoints, unchallenged and undebated, without any references to Hizbullah as U.S. Government-designated Foreign Terrorist Organization, but only as a "resistance" organization.

On March 23, 2006, the U.S. Department of the Treasury designated Hizbullah propaganda organization Al-Manar as a "Specially Designated Global Terrorist Entity" and as an "Arm of Hizballah Terrorist Network". In this designation, the U.S. Department of the Treasury stated that "Al Manar and al Nour are the media arms of the Hizballah terrorist network and have facilitated Hizballah's activities".

The challenge is, with a nation of free speech and a free press, what actions apply to US news media organizations that pick up where the now prohibited Al-Manar and other propaganda organizations leave off.

[SNIP]

22 Athos  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:20:06am

All across middle America, papers and magazines like WaPo, NYT, LAT, and Newsweek are being used in larger amounts to line the bottom of bird cages or to facilitate housebreaking puppies. Adding excrement on the paper is an improvement to the excrement contained within those papers.

24 opnion  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:21:09am

The Washington post is a silly publication , employing effete, smug individulals.
They are a reliable purveyor of propoganda of our enemies. What they fail to see due to the rarified air where they reside is that these guys are their enemies too.

25 Whammo  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:21:37am

Islam is a religion of peace, as long as all other religions are quashed and it's followers completely subjugated.

26 gman  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:21:38am

They say there were six million Jews – not six million, not three million, or anything like that... But the world accepted this [figure], and it does not allow anyone to discuss this.

Ok ,leading intellectual guy what's your figure?

Funny how the deniers never give us their figures, they just say 6 million is wrong.

27 BrianA  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:21:39am

I wouldn't be supprised to see Louis Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright as participants in this " special joint project".

28 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:21:57am
29 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:22:08am

re: #9 chinesearithmetic

I've always understood that the 6 million figure was a general estimate, not a precise figure. (My own belief is that there were probably far more Jews killed than 6 million.)

And, of course, every one of those "beans", every one of those "figures" was a human being.

30 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:22:22am
Jihad in Islam (The violent confrontation of the enemy) is the fighting movement that aims at preventing the enemy from forcing its hegemony over the land and the people by means of violence that confiscates freedom, kills the people, usurps the wealth and prevents the people's rights in self-determination and running their own affairs.

Only a muslim could lie so boldly about their religion. muslims have no right to self-determination- that's what submission to the will of allah is. All decisions have already been made for them by allah. Wow- just wow. It's like bizzaro-world interpretation of islam. Stunning.

31 Eowyn2  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:22:52am

re: #10 Teacake!

Were the other 5 million non-Jews a hoax as well? Come on fella, just say it straight, you just don't want a Jewish speck of sand in the middle of the islamic world.

and the Ummah just keeps growing and growing and growing.

32 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:23:06am

I shudder to think what sort of guest opinions these guys would have run in the 1930's. Wait, didn't the New York Times crawl up Stalin's ass?

33 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:23:07am

I am off to follow his money

BBL



In addition to the academic work that Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah has done, he has also opened up schools, Islamic centers, and Orphanages.

[edit] Schools

1. The Imam Al Khouie Orphanage, Beirut (Dawha)

2. Imam Al-Baqir Secondary school, Beka`a (Hirmil)

3. Imam Al-Jawed Secondary school, Beka`a (Ali Nahri)

4. Imam Ali Bin Abi Talib school, South Lebanon (Ma`roub)

5. Imam Hassan Secondary school, Beirut (Ruwais)

6. Al-Mujtaba Secondary School, Beirut (Hay Al-Salum)

7. Imam Ja`afar As-Sadiq school, South Lebanon (Jwaya)

8. Al-Kauther Secondary school, Beirut (Bir Hassan)

9. Imam Hussein School, Beka`a (Suh`mour) under construction

10. Ali Al-Akbar Vocational Institute Beirut (Doha)

[edit] Islamic Centers

1. The large Islamic Center, Beirut (Haret Hreik: Consists of the Al-Imamain Hassnian Mosque, the Zah`ra Hall and the Islamic Cultural Center.

2. Imam Hasan Askari Center Beka`a’(Sira’in)

3. Imam Hussein Center-Beka`a(Jlala)

4. Imam Ali Bin Abi Talib center South Lebanon.(AL-Hawzah-Sour)

5. Ahl Al-Beit Mosque Beka`a’ (Rayak)

6. Imam Ja’far Al-Sadiq Mosque Beka`a (Hirmil)

7. Ahl Al-Beit Center, North Lebanon (Tripoli)

8. Sayyida Zaynab Mosque, Beka`a (Baalbeck)

[edit] Orphanages

1. Imam Al-Khouie Orphanage (Beirut-Doha)

2. Imam Zein Al-Abidine (A.S.) Orphanage Biqaa(Hirmil).

3. Imam Ali Bin Abi Talib (A.S.) Orphanage, South Lebanon. (The Ma`roub-Sour road)

4. Virgin Mary Orphanage (A.S.) South Lebanon(Jiwaya).

5. Al- Sayyida Khadijah Al-Kubraa (A.S.) Orphanage, Beirut (Bir-Hassan).

6. The Zaynab (A.S.) Orphanage West Biqaa (Suh`mour) Under construction.[19]

34 gymnast  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:23:21am

Is Fadhallah one of the wrong Reverend Wrights' role models? Seems so.

35 see bs  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:23:24am

I love it how the holocaust never happened to the deniers, and yet those same a-holes want to finish off the Jews/Israel. What benefit would there be in “inflating the number of victims”? Regardless of how many millions of people lost their life to the Nazi thugs, it still happened. One person was too many.

I’ve been to Dachau. I’ve seen the evidence. These morons will never silence the truth of what happened. Although my family is not Jewish, my grandparents came to the United States after surviving Stalin’s Russia and becoming slaves in Nazi Germany.

Never Again.

Sorry for the long rant. These fools make me sick.

36 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:24:18am

The Nazis had a fetish for recording things. They documented their own atrocities.

37 Athos  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:24:39am

re: #30 Sharmuta

The other stunning part is the number of el cubos who actually fall for the lies....despite what they see. But then, they only see what they want to believe as opposed to believing what they see.

38 Peacekeeper  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:24:58am

re: #33 BabbaZee

I am off to follow his money

BBL

Off like a Jewish head in Pakistan

39 Alouette  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:25:03am

re: #35 see bs

I love it how the holocaust never happened to the deniers, and yet those same a-holes want to finish off the Jews/Israel.

They deny that the holocaust happened, but they are always very fast to cry about the "holocaust in Gaza" and their precious Nakba.

40 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:25:41am

re: #33 BabbaZee

He's supports orphanages? Well, then. He can't be all bad.

41 BrianA  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:26:36am

re: #40 MandyManners

He's supports orphanages? Well, then. He can't be all bad.

Probably the children of suicide bombers.

42 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:26:40am

He speaks Gramscian Hooplebabble Fluently:

Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah opposes US foreign policy: "I say that America, in its policy that aspires to impose hegemony on the world is an evil with no good in it."

43 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:26:43am

re: #40 MandyManners

He's supports orphanages? Well, then. He can't be all bad.

He supports them by making sure their always full of orphans.

44 Shug  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:27:19am

Sorry for the early OT

Federal Ruling coming soon in the case of a Muslim woman who refused to take her slave mask off in court

US supreme court next ?

A Muslim woman who lost a small-claims suit in Hamtramck district court in 2006 after she refused to remove her religious veil during testimony took her case before a federal judge today, hoping to overturn the district judge's decision and establish precedent in eastern Michigan courtrooms.

you mean inject the first innoculum of Sharia into Eastern Michigan courtrooms.

Let's hope this goes to the Supreme court and they slap her down

45 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:27:44am

re: #41 BrianA

He sees the orphans as future suicide bombers.

46 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:28:29am

He denies he is their "spiritual" leader but they say he is

Ayatollah Mohamad Hussein Fadlallah (the spiritual leader of Hezbullah, the islamic resistance to the Jewish occupation in the South of Lebanon) and Ahmed Rami


Where have we heard this taqiyya before? LOL


/I did not have spiritual relations with that terrorist

47 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:28:47am

re: #33 BabbaZee

Wonder if there's a link to Soros.

48 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:28:56am

re: #44 Shug

Sorry for the early OT

Federal Ruling coming soon in the case of a Muslim woman who refused to take her slave mask off in court

US supreme court next ?

you mean inject the first innoculum of Sharia into Eastern Michigan courtrooms.

Let's hope this goes to the Supreme court and they slap her down

Well even then the most we could hope for is a 6-3 vote to uphold. Another reason to vote early and often this November.

49 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:29:01am

#21 BabbaZee

Good link.

(By the way---have your own links from the thread where you-know-who talks about his companioning with terrorists ready for when he shows up---as he doubtless will---to tell us how unfair we're all being to the media.)

50 looking closely  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:29:03am

re: #35 see bs

I love it how the holocaust never happened to the deniers, and yet those same a-holes want to finish off the Jews/Israel. What benefit would there be in “inflating the number of victims”?


Its because the Islamists see the entire Middle East as theirs by divine fiat.

The historical reality that Jews have been living continuously in Israel since literally the dawn of recorded history, centuries before the existence of Islam, and have the oldest objectively documented claim of a "homeland" as ANY group does to ANY piece of land is irrelevant to them.

They see modern Israel as existing as a European "guilt" response to the European Jewish Genocide (the Holocaust), so their denial of the Holocaust is a way of undermining Israel's legitimacy.

So that the *political* reality of Holocaust denial by foaming Islamists, apart from their objective Islamic religious hatred of Jews.

51 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:29:20am

re: #41 BrianA

Probably the children of suicide bombers.

Wonder if they're being groomed to follow in the fathers' footsteps.

52 opnion  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:29:23am

I am sure that the Post will host a forum on racial harmony.
They could feature a prominent American who has promoted racial understanding. Who could it be? Hmmm let me think. I got it Reverend Jeramiah Wright!

53 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:29:43am

re: #32 Peacekeeper

I sometimes feel like it's 19---freakin'---39 all over again! Freakin' dejas vous. . .

54 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:29:43am

re: #43 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

He supports them by making sure their always full of orphans.

Sadly, true.

55 mean Gene  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:29:44am

re: #45 Kenneth

He sees the orphans as future suicide bombers.


And perhaps as professional beggars in the meantime.

56 just another four-letter word  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:29:52am

Well, just like Reverend Wrong's being maligned with the video snippets of his (so-called) preaching, aren't MEMRI's videos doing the same?

Just asking...

JAFLW

/C'mon, Charles, stop preaching your biased, anti-Islam hate!

57 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:30:25am

Given that it is the Washington Post, about as useful as the NYT.....

I GOTTA ask....

.... is this news?

58 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:30:47am

re: #50 looking closely

They're trying to make us feel guilt for feeling guilt over the Jewish Holocaust.

Makes a strange sort of sense in the insane 21st Century. . .

59 opnion  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:30:54am

re: #42 BabbaZee

He speaks Gramscian Hooplebabble Fluently:

Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah opposes US foreign policy: "I say that America, in its policy that aspires to impose hegemony on the world is an evil with no good in it."

Nah, Nah , Nah, G D Damn America! Wait, that was the other guy.

60 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:30:58am

re: #37 Athos

The other stunning part is the number of el cubos who actually fall for the lies....despite what they see. But then, they only see what they want to believe as opposed to believing what they see.

They are unwilling to deviate from the world view they've subscribed to. To do so would mean they are now the bad people they think we are.

61 Alouette  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:31:03am

re: #41 BrianA

Probably the children of suicide bombers.

Probably suicide bombers in training.

62 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:31:24am

Again, he says no

they say yes!


Role Profile
Name: Sheik Muhammad Husayn Fadlallah
Role: Spiritual Leader of the Lebanese Hizbullah (Party of God)
Born: 1935

Quotation: "What martyrdom is greater than making yourself a human bomb detonating it among the enemy? What spiritualism is greater than this spiritualism in which a person loses all feeling of his body and life for the sake of his cause and mission?"

63 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:31:51am

re: #47 MandyManners

I wouldn't be surprised if there were. Somebody's certainly supplying money and support to these terrorists, and the media outlets, to spew this propaganda. . .

64 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:31:57am

re: #49 TalkinKamel

I am just going to nail that entire thread to his forehead anytime I think it is necessary
lol

65 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:32:55am

re: #47 MandyManners

Wonder if there's a link to Soros.

I will find it
This will take a few days thought this guy's name is plastered everywhere

LOTS of sifting needed here

66 Diamond Bullet  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:33:07am

Part of the WaPost "Interfaith Dialogue" is entitled "Islam's Advance".

[Link: newsweek.washingtonpost.com...]

'nuff said.

67 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:33:25am

re: #26 gman

They say there were six million Jews – not six million, not three million, or anything like that... But the world accepted this [figure], and it does not allow anyone to discuss this.
Funny how the deniers never give us their figures, they just say 6 million is wrong.

actually it was closer to 8 million.

A Russian Army friend lost his grandfather in a German work camp, tortured and worked to death beside thousands of other Jews.

/ it was Darwinism that caused Hitler to be so mean.

68 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:33:45am

Clare Short, musing hopefully on Al-Jazeera:

I don’t believe that Blair and Bush will be arrested right away, but this issue may haunt them, because, after all, they will not die very soon, since they are not old. Just like Pinochet was tried — who knows? There are brave lawyers who are waiting for this opportunity, which will come one day.

Jay Nordlinger comments:

“...there is a sickness in the West, as manifested by Clare Short on Al-Jazeera. She is one of those who repeatedly condemn Israel as an “apartheid state.” In fact, she has stated that Israel is “much worse” than the old South Africa. Yes, there is a sickness, one of whose most powerful symptoms is a deep misunderstanding of Israel, and a hatred of it. Will the West recover?

To add insult to injury, Clare Short was talking to people — Arabs — whose governments are world-class torturers, and whose officials are certainly never held accountable in any international court. Yet she was talking about Bush and Blair, who have done more to help Arab people than a billion Clare Shorts ever could.”

It seems that Israel’s enemies are in the catbird seat: They can lose and lose, and still survive. Israel is not interested in eliminating a single state. But Israel’s enemies: the opposite

69 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:34:07am

re: #33 BabbaZee

This is not good.

I'm beginning to find all Moslem involvement with kids highly suspect. (Think of all those Palestinian "pediatricans" who turn out to be terrorists---and those horrible Palestinian kiddie shows, were cartoons and funny adults in silly costumes urge kids to kill themselves, and take a few Jews with them? I also wonder if there isn't some Soros money behind some of these orphanages.)

70 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:34:16am

re: #63 TalkinKamel

I wouldn't be surprised if there were. Somebody's certainly supplying money and support to these terrorists, and the media outlets, to spew this propaganda. . .

Maybe Saudi money makes Soros unecessary.

71 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:34:28am
72 Charles  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:34:28am

See the update -- today On Faith is defending Rev. Wright...

73 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:34:37am

Israel's 60th anniversary!

/Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, party pooper

74 gman  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:34:42am

re: #44 Shug

I like your use of "slave mask". It's easier to say than "burqa" and much more appropriate.

75 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:34:43am

re: #65 BabbaZee

I will find it
This will take a few days thought this guy's name is plastered everywhere

LOTS of sifting needed here

You're one of the best sifters around.

76 Athos  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:35:08am

re: #60 Sharmuta

To do so would mean they are now the bad people they think we are.

The truth hurts.....they do embrace evil for their own gains.

77 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:35:10am

re: #65 BabbaZee

You go, Babba!

78 varmint  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:35:54am

"plundered palestine"?

what exactly was there to plunder?

79 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:35:55am

Note it says my there , this from the same site that I osted above at 62 that ID's him as
Role: Spiritual Leader of the Lebanese Hizbullah (Party of God)

then it goes on to use "my" in the
NARRATIVE section
which means he wrote it and approves of that title

Here are some excerpts from my writings, speeches, and interviews:

* "The Zionist occupation continues to usurp the lands of the Muslims"
* "Israel poses a great danger to our future generations and to the destiny of our modern nation, especially since it embraces a settlement-oriented and expansionist idea that it has already begun to apply in occupied Palestne and it is extending and expanding to build Greater Israel, from the Euphrates to the Nile"
* "I believe that there is an attempt to cause something similar to a political tremor in the region through the world arrogance of the United States, whose changes in loyalties according to changes in economic and strategic interests are familiar to us."
* "Iran is standing alone in the world with the Palestinian people and supporting their struggle."
* "All Palestine is a war zone and every Jew who unlawfully occupies a house or land belonging to a Palestinian is a legitimate target."
* "There are no innocent Jews in Palestine. The area is a war zone. They kill many of our women, children, and elderly people. They destory our homes. They confiscate our water and freedom."

80 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:36:05am
81 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:36:11am

re: #72 Charles

read my 79

82 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:36:12am

re: #72 Charles

See the update -- today On Faith is defending Rev. Wright...

Forbes is a busy man.

I cannot bring myself to read it.

83 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:36:25am

re: #70 MandyManners

You're right. Saudi money might make Soros superfluous. (Though I wouldn't be surprised if he still managed to weasel his weasel way in, somehow. He's that kinda guy.)

84 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:36:27am

re: #72 Charles

See the update -- today On Faith is defending Rev. Wright...

There is no excuse for some things. Hatred is one of them. You can explain why it exists, and you can deal with it, but you can't excuse it.

85 ShumBaayaMyLord  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:36:34am

Next thing you know, the WaPo will probably do a vidclip guest spot with Muqtada al-Sadr doing his best impression of the Bluto Blutarsky "See if you can guess what I am now" mashed-potatoes-gusher scene...

86 Ma Sands  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:36:48am

re: #49 TalkinKamel

#21 BabbaZee

Good link.

(By the way---have your own links from the thread where you-know-who talks about his companioning with terrorists ready for when he shows up---as he doubtless will---to tell us how unfair we're all being to the media.)


Speaking of that, do you think that commenter is still among the living.....?

87 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:36:50am

re: #75 MandyManners

jess call me sifty
lol

88 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:36:56am

re: #67 ibmkeyboard

*whack*

89 looking closely  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:36:57am

re: #39 Alouette

They deny that the holocaust happened, but they are always very fast to cry about the "holocaust in Gaza" and their precious Nakba.

Its cargo cult thinking.

Apart from trivializing the Jewish Shoah, they figure "holocaust" claims have worked for the Jews, so why not them too?

Reminds me of a story I heard from a friend. He's Israeli and owns a car dealership in New York. One day some Rasta guy walks into the dealership to look at cars. The guy, who is Black, with dreads, is wearing a gigantic gold star of David around his neck.

So the dealer, totally ignorant of Rastafarian religious beliefs (apparently they believe that they are in exile, like the Jews), asks this guy, essentially, "if you aren't Jewish, why are you wearing that Star of David?"

Answer: Wearing them seems to work really well for the Jews, so I figure it can work for me.

True story. . .

90 gman  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:37:19am

re: #67 ibmkeyboard

actually it was closer to 8 million.

A Russian Army friend lost his grandfather in a German work camp, tortured and worked to death beside thousands of other Jews.

/ it was Darwinism that caused Hitler to be so mean.

Im sure you're right. The German kept meticulous records of their killing sprees and I have seen some of the documents during my research into the subject.

91 Diamond Bullet  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:38:13am

re: #72 Charles

See the update -- today On Faith is defending Rev. Wright...

They also have a nice Iran whitewash where a bunch of "peace delegates" discover how "sweet" Iranian mullahs are.

[Link: newsweek.washingtonpost.com...]

Iran is Not the Enemy
The “axis of evil” has no relevance for me when I think of Iran, a country I’ve found to have a human, loving, hospitable face throughout 40 years of encounters. I lived in Iran between 1968 and 1978, and started returning again, this time with peace delegations, in 2005. It is one of the great joys of my life to see the layers of misunderstanding and fear gradually fall away from those who visit Iran today for the first time.

One delegate recently said, “I met a mullah on the street and he was so sweet! Who would think of a mullah being sweet?” Another delegate, well-traveled in the Middle East, said, “Iranians are the most hospitable people I have ever met.”

92 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:38:25am

re: #83 TalkinKamel

You're right. Saudi money might make Soros superfluous. (Though I wouldn't be surprised if he still managed to weasel his weasel way in, somehow. He's that kinda guy.)

He's the weasel weasels hate.

94 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:38:31am

Charles & Mandy Manners

Like I said---you gotta be suspicious of all "interfaith dialogue" stuff, and "religion" columns pushed by the MSM these days!

(Not that I have any objection to different faiths talking to each other---but, sheesh, the dreck these columinists/interfaith "experts" come up with!)

95 Athos  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:38:39am

re: #72 Charles

See the update -- today On Faith is defending Rev. Wright...

Useful idiocy is alive and well established within 'On Faith'.

96 looking closely  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:38:52am

re: #72 Charles

See the update -- today On Faith is defending Rev. Wright...


IMO, waste of breath.

Anyone with half a brain knows what Wright is.

Its Obama that needs the defense, not Wright.

98 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:39:26am

re: #72 Charles

See the update -- today On Faith is defending Rev. Wright...

Those of us over 50 can remember when The NOI and Farrakhan were universally recognized as Jew hating, Whitey hating, ignorant scum. To think that I would live to see the day that The NOI and it's ugly stepchild "Black Liberation Theology" would be mainstreamed is very sad indeed. Those who allowed this to happen may someday regret what they have sowed.

99 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:40:05am
To we white folks, Jeremiah Wright sounds threatening. But we might ask ourselves if we deserve to be threatened.

-Tony Campolo

Uh- no. I don't, asshole. But feel free to continue to wallow in your white guilt by yourself.

100 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:40:20am

re: #86 Ma Sands

Hmmmmm. . . . hmmmmmmmmmm. . . . HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. . .

Whether living or dead, he certainly sounds like he could be you-know-who, doesn't he. . ?

101 Athos  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:40:44am

re: #83 TalkinKamel

You're right. Saudi money might make Soros superfluous. (Though I wouldn't be surprised if he still managed to weasel his weasel way in, somehow. He's that kinda guy.)

I wouldn't be surprised if Soros and the Saudi's were the hands behind a lot of the speculation in the crude oil markets that is driving the price well above the $50-$60 / bbl level it should be at given the supply and demand statistics.

102 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:41:06am
103 Shug  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:41:08am

re: #99 Sharmuta

-Tony Campolo

Uh- no. I don't, asshole. But feel free to continue to wallow in your white guilt by yourself.

Hey Tony, Vaffanculo

104 Sizzlack  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:41:16am

Tell me if this makes any sense...

Some lefties advocate things like Texas is really part of Mexico (regardless that Mexico lost that war) or that most of the U.S.A. is stolen Indian land (which even if partially true at this point if irrelevant given that almost every part of Earth has been conquered and re-conquered throughout time.)
Using that logic, you would think they would be whole heart-idly on Israel's side, given that they were the original occupants of historic Israel, only to be expelled. Why is it that they champion the causes of all original inhabitants of land except the Jews?

105 just another four-letter word  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:41:19am

re: #74 gman

I like your use of "slave mask". It's easier to say than "burqa" and much more appropriate.

...it describes its function to a T.

JAFLW

Updinged you for that one...

106 Athos  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:42:43am

re: #99 Sharmuta

That academic is likely a proud member of the political party that embraced and established nearly a century of 'Jim Crow', fillibustered to try to stop the Civil Rights Act, and is proud of the 90 year old former Kleagle who is the Senate Pro Tem......

107 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:42:57am

re: #99 Sharmuta

I don't feel as if I deserve it. I don't feel as if my husband, my 13-year old son or any of my white friends/family members deserve it either.

But if you feel that you do, by all means, you have my permission to volunteer as officially designated "bad guy", and accept whatever punishment you deem you deserve.

Just don't volunteer the rest of us for it.

108 Dad O' Blondes  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:43:12am

The Real Jeremiah Wright

I think we've got a very clear picture of the "real" Jeremiah Wright.

.

109 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:43:21am

re: #101 Athos

Heh, heh, heh. . . me neither!

110 looking closely  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:43:29am

re: #98 Nevergiveup

To think that I would live to see the day that The NOI and it's ugly stepchild "Black Liberation Theology" would be mainstreamed is very sad indeed. Those who allowed this to happen may someday regret what they have sowed.


The coverage is good, I think.
Like that old Madison Avenue expression "Nothing kills a bad product faster than good advertising".
In that respect, the more exposure that "Black Liberation Theology" gets, the better, IMO.

As a side benefit, the more exposure it gets, the more people are going to wonder about Obama who has sat absorbing Wright's bilge for 20 years.

111 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:44:00am

re: #68 Kenneth

If Pinochet had been a leftist they would be praising him for everything he did. He left the country in great shape economically, a democracy, the rule of law firmly in place and the people far better off than when he took power (at the conveniently forgotten behest of the Chilean congress which Allende had thrown out in a grab for power). Pinochet killed 3 to 4 thousand people, Che Guevara killed 17K, yet Che is lauded and Pinochet reviled. I have a hard time getting my head around that, especially considering the outcome of the revolutions of each.

112 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:44:46am

re: #107 TalkinKamel

TK- I think you're reading me wrong. My point was tony can wallow and feel he deserves it. The rest of us don't.

113 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:44:52am

Back in 1989, Ayatollah Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah was calling repeatedly for a popular referendum. And so, according to Fadlallah's scheme, no decision taken by Parliament should pass unless it were put to a referendum. In effect, Fadlallah was eliminating the function of Parliament in Lebanese political life. Step one in introducing Hezbollah law, one that is being repeated today.

114 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:45:28am

And Sharmuta, my post above was directed at Tony Campola, not you.

115 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:45:58am

Tony can wallow, but the rest of us don't need to follow!

116 BrianA  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:46:05am

re: #91 Diamond Bullet

Iran is Not the Enemy
The “axis of evil” has no relevance for me when I think of Iran, a country I’ve found to have a human, loving, hospitable face throughout 40 years of encounters. I lived in Iran between 1968 and 1978, and started returning again, this time with peace delegations, in 2005.

Earth to moonbat: That was before the Islamic Revolution.

117 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:46:25am

re: #114 TalkinKamel

LOL! So- I was reading you wrong! Sorry.

118 selpaw  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:46:28am

more on Holocaust denial #2

Mahmoud Abbas is a Fraud


he recently approved the new official “Fatah” poster, which shows all of Israel as “Palestine” and includes a rifle and an oversized picture of Yasser Arafat.

Fatah anniversary map shows all of Israel as "Palestine"

Abbas was quoted as boasting about the fact that he was the one to “fire the first bullet of the resistance” back in 1965, adding it was the PLO that taught many around the world “how to resist, when resistance is most effective and when it is not.”

The Terrorist "Peacemaker"

Abbas says no peace with Israel unless all prisoners released

Does this appear to come from a "MAN OF PEACE!"

Would any REAL 'man of peace' threaten non peace if mass terrorists were not set free?


If it is possible to become aghast with the terrorist behavior of a terrorist leader what does this say for the President who has fallen over himself to modify who Abbas truly is?

I mean, we all know about the moderate Abbas and his charter of death upon Israel, don't we? None of this bullshit comes as any surprise, does it? Surely George and Condi and all the rest who are quite willing to hand Israel to the wolves for all the very worst most bankrupt reasons, know these facts as well, don't they?

We have all been outraged with Carter for taking flowers to the death chamber of Arafat but I ask you, what is the difference between glorying a dead terrorist or lying for and about a live one?

In my book the current President who claimed to be the best friend to Israel WHO has exalted and elevated Abbas the terrorist into something he surely is not MUST clean about Abbas the HOLOCAUST DENIER. As long as that lie continues I can not continue to point my finger at WAPO while ignoring all the rest.

119 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:47:00am

SF Gate called him the Leader of Hezbollah in 2001

They also call Hezbollah

a "SOCIAL MOVEMENT"

I got a movement for them.

120 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:47:33am

re: #118 selpaw

Amen to all that!

121 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:47:55am

re: #110 looking closely

The coverage is good, I think.
Like that old Madison Avenue expression "Nothing kills a bad product faster than good advertising".
In that respect, the more exposure that "Black Liberation Theology" gets, the better, IMO.

As a side benefit, the more exposure it gets, the more people are going to wonder about Obama who has sat absorbing Wright's bilge for 20 years.

I hope so, but from what I am seeing, unless you are a FOX viewer the coverage is not as critical as it should be. While FOX is more or less preaching to the converted, the MSM is just drooling to give Obama and "Black Liberation Theology" a pass. As an example the mutual masturbation interview conducted by Bill Moyers on PBS.

122 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:48:00am

re: #104 Sizzlack

Because the Left, deep down, hates Jews, and is as ant-semetic as the Nazis they claim to despise.

As for Mexico, they want to see the USA be overrun by Mexico (and it's corrupt government) because the hate the former, and want to see it brought down.

They've absorbed KGB/Communist propaganda all too well.

123 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:48:35am

In keeping with this history, Nasrallah welcomed all Lebanese who supported Hezbollah at its September 22 victory rally and characterized the movement as follows: "We are neither a disorganized and sophistic resistance, nor a resistance pulled to the ground that sees before it nothing but soil, nor a resistance of chaos. The pious, God-reliant, loving and knowledgeable resistance is also the conscious, wise, trained and equipped resistance that has plans. This is the secret of the victory we are today celebrating, brothers and sisters" (al-Manar TV, September 22). This explanation and his abilities of clear, understandable political and strategic analysis has positioned Nasrallah differently than Sayyid Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, whom many regard as Hezbollah's spiritual inspiration and who promoted the Lebanonization of Hezbollah [2]. Alongside some friction between more radical or accomodationist party elements, Fadlallah wanted Hezbollah to create local interests for itself. Since these early years, the organization pursued these interests and achieved a Lebanese identity. Nasrallah's political statements that Hezbollah defends Lebanon are complemented by Fadlallah's fatwa that the believer is obliged to come to the defense of others who are not "capable of warding off danger to themselves or their property," or who are "not aware of the danger," even if the consequence is loss of life [3].

link

124 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:48:37am

re: #115 TalkinKamel

Tony can wallow, but the rest of us don't need to follow!

Is that you, Jesse?

125 opnion  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:49:32am

re: #104 Sizzlack

Tell me if this makes any sense...

Some lefties advocate things like Texas is really part of Mexico (regardless that Mexico lost that war) or that most of the U.S.A. is stolen Indian land (which even if partially true at this point if irrelevant given that almost every part of Earth has been conquered and re-conquered throughout time.)
Using that logic, you would think they would be whole heart-idly on Israel's side, given that they were the original occupants of historic Israel, only to be expelled. Why is it that they champion the causes of all original inhabitants of land except the Jews?


.

Thats easy , they despise Jews. Jews have become the target , even by many Liberal Jews.
The reasso? Muslims in General and Palestinians in particular have become the new Liberal pets. Never mind that the pets want them dead.
They remain wlllfuly ignorant of the facts in the Middle East & cherry pick ony things that fit the agenda

126 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:49:52am

re: #117 Sharmuta

No prob. I responded too quickly, without making it clear enough that it was Tony, not you, I was responding too!

(I sometimes tend to type too quickly on threads, where the ideas are interesting, and the discussion's heating up.)

127 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:50:31am

In 2003, for example, then-Lebanese finance minister and current prime minister Fouad Siniora was barred from entering the United States because of a donation he made to al-Mabarrat in 2000. The charity, headed by former Hizballah spiritual leader Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, raised $954,027 in 2005. Just last week, Fadlallah -- who is on the Treasury Department's list of specially designated terrorists and maintains close ties with Hizballah -- asserted in a Washington Post online forum that "jihad is confronting violence by means of violence and force by force, which makes it of a defensive nature at times and a preventive one at others."

LINK

128 Shug  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:50:38am

re: #124 MandyManners

Is that you, Jesse?

Tony can wallow, but we won't follow!

If this was the FNDT, there would be a Monica Lewinski reference in the next line of this rhyme

But it's only Hump Day

129 selpaw  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:50:39am

THANKS {BABBA}

130 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:50:46am

re: #111 coquimbojoe

Amen. The Left today complains about China. Not for the 60 million Mao slaughtered, no, that's hardly an issue. The left hates China today for manufacturing cheap merchandise for Walmart.

131 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:51:17am

re: #124 MandyManners

If Tony has a fit,
That just don't mean. . . anything!

(It's Kamel po-8-tree!
I'm a better rhymer than Jess-eeee!)

132 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:51:34am

re: #106 Athos

That academic is likely a proud member of the political party that embraced and established nearly a century of 'Jim Crow', fillibustered to try to stop the Civil Rights Act, and is proud of the 90 year old former Kleagle who is the Senate Pro Tem......

I wouldn't be surprised. Anyone who feels they deserve it is likely subscribing to the aforementioned world view where evil is the victim of Good.

133 Sizzlack  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:51:59am

re: #122 TalkinKamel


They've absorbed KGB/Communist propaganda all too well.

I suppose this is why they consider us here at LGF to be the enemy. I never once before thought of people from the Daily Kos as my enemy. They are my compatriots who in my opinion are very misguided but they are not the enemy. However when you bring in the communist insanity, well then the whole picture changes. This country was founded on the principles that people are different and have different opinions. But once you start regarding your own countrymen as your enemy over those around the world actually plotting to kill all of us regardless of our political leanings...well....very sad.

134 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:52:02am

re: #130 Kenneth

Amen. The Left today complains about China. Not for the 60 million Mao slaughtered, no, that's hardly an issue. The left hates China today for manufacturing cheap merchandise for Walmart.

Yeah but the left gives them a pass for polluting the earth like there is no tomorrow.

135 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:52:03am

re: #128 Shug

And Shug, I'm NOT touching that one!

(With my hump, or any other way!)

:>)

136 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:52:04am

hey, the guy who invented LSD died.

137 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:52:07am

The Washington Post trying to explain faith and belief reminds me of the old saying: "Those who can't, teach."

138 Shug  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:52:39am

re: #136 LanceKates

hey, the guy who invented LSD died.


at age 102!

139 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:52:49am

re: #128 Shug

Tony can wallow, but we won't follow!

If this was the FNDT, there would be a Monica Lewinski reference in the next line of this rhyme

But it's only Hump Day

You'd think a crude monica reference would be more fitting on a hump day.

140 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:53:00am

re: #136 LanceKates

hey, the guy who invented LSD died.

Leary?

141 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:53:04am

The words of an ayatollah should not be printed in an American newspaper, nor the words of a racist, black pastor. Doing so is counterproductive for the healthy future of our country.

142 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:53:08am

re: #134 Nevergiveup

Yeah but the left gives them a pass for polluting the earth like there is no tomorrow.

If you are a leftist nihilist, there is not tomorrow.....

143 Killian Bundy  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:53:19am

You make the natural odds long enough . . .

/there's no such thing as winning

144 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:53:41am

re: #136 LanceKates

hey, the guy who invented LSD died.

Not to be confused with the guy who invented LDS...

[Link: www.ldsfilm.com...]

145 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:53:43am

re: #128 Shug

Tony can wallow, but we won't follow!

If this was the FNDT, there would be a Monica Lewinski reference in the next line of this rhyme

But it's only Hump Day

Second *spew* of the day.

146 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:53:59am

November 14, 2007

WASHINGTON - A suspected Hezbollah mole who penetrated the ranks of the FBI and CIA pleaded guilty Tuesday to falsely getting U.S. citizenship and snooping in FBI terrorism files.

Former waitress Nada Nadim Prouty, 37, of Vienna, Va., admitted arranging a sham marriage with an American in Michigan to win U.S. citizenship. She parlayed that into sensitive jobs as an FBI special agent and a CIA operations officer, sources said.

[SNIP]

FBI-agent-turned-Russian spy Robert Hanssen often did the same thing to see if the bureau was on to him. Prouty's sister joined her husband at a 2002 event in Lebanon, where Chahine gave a speech with Sheik Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, a Hezbollah spiritual leader designated by the U.S. as a terrorist. Fadlallah issued the fatwa blessing Hezbollah's 1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut, officials have said.

147 JamesTKirk  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:54:11am

re: #140 Nevergiveup

re: #136 LanceKates
hey, the guy who invented LSD died.

Leary?

Yeah, you should be leery about taking that stuff...

148 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:54:20am

re: #133 Sizzlack

Exactly. They see America, and, by extension, websites such as LGF, as the enemy.

They long to see America defeated. Whether they'd be happy if this ever (G-d forbid!) actually happens, I can't say. And, of course, by then, it would be too late----not only for them, but the rest of us, as well. . .

149 pat  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:54:24am

re: #136 LanceKates

Has anyone told him yet?

150 Shug  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:54:40am

re: #145 MandyManners

Second *spew* of the day.

Monica and Spew in the same Sentence.

how fitting

151 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:55:08am

re: #150 Shug

Monica and Spew in the same Sentence.

how fitting

And on Hump day.

152 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:55:19am
153 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:55:26am

I'll bet that the people who write the On Faith pieces don't have any faith themselves. Or they're Gaia-worshippers, or UUs*.

* - unitarian universalists

154 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:55:29am

re: #93 BabbaZee

Excellent!

155 Sizzlack  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:55:56am

re: #148 TalkinKamel

Exactly. They see America, and, by extension, websites such as LGF, as the enemy.

They long to see America defeated. Whether they'd be happy if this ever (G-d forbid!) actually happens, I can't say. And, of course, by then, it would be too late----not only for them, but the rest of us, as well. . .

The most ridiculous thing about that is that if they ever got their wish and turned this into what they would think was some sort of like communist utopia...I mean have they ever looked at a Stalin bio? Does that really sound better than how we have it now? If they answer Yes to that...well then we really are in trouble...

156 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:56:10am

Dierdre Imus is no FOX talking about greening the world. If she is so Green, why does she look like shit?

157 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:56:20am

re: #136 LanceKates

hey, the guy who invented LSD died.

Albert Hofmann? I saw something about that. Bet he and Timothy Leary are having an interesting conversation.

158 LanceKates  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:56:29am

re: #149 pat

Has anyone told him yet?

Oh.... I have a feeling that he's a bit confused, but definately knows what's happening to him.

159 Kefirah  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:56:33am

it makes me sick unto weeping that this always seems to catch steam around yom hashoah.

i would ask that they have some decency - but i s'pose that would be a waste of breath.

160 Pyrocles  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:56:41am

Because Israel is a modern industrial democracy, thus purely evil according to the leftist worldview. The Palestinians are poor (due to their own non-materialist culture), "dark-skinned" noble-savages in their eyes. Pure, pastoral, and guilt-free non-Western betters.

re: #104 Sizzlack

Tell me if this makes any sense...

Some lefties advocate things like Texas is really part of Mexico (regardless that Mexico lost that war) or that most of the U.S.A. is stolen Indian land (which even if partially true at this point if irrelevant given that almost every part of Earth has been conquered and re-conquered throughout time.)
Using that logic, you would think they would be whole heart-idly on Israel's side, given that they were the original occupants of historic Israel, only to be expelled. Why is it that they champion the causes of all original inhabitants of land except the Jews?

161 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:56:50am

re: #156 Nevergiveup

Dierdre Imus is no FOX talking about greening the world. If she is so Green, why does she look like shit?

Maybe she's gangrene.

162 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:56:51am

When did Dhimmi Carter grow a beard?

0ops didn't read past the headline. My bad.

163 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:57:02am

re: #131 TalkinKamel

If Tony has a fit,
That just don't mean. . . anything!

(It's Kamel po-8-tree!
I'm a better rhymer than Jess-eeee!)

LOL!

164 realwest  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:57:07am

TEST

165 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:57:14am

re: #141 Kreuzueber Halbmond

The words of an ayatollah should not be printed in an American newspaper, nor the words of a racist, black pastor. Doing so is counterproductive for the healthy future of our country.

I disagree. They should be printed, but there should be at least some cynicism on the part of the paper. They are far too gleeful about printing anything that is anti- (you name it, law, white, religious, good, male, traditional, straight, family, life). They cast a gimlet eye towards anything 'conservative' and 'good' (these two certainly can be exclusive), it would be nice if they did the same to ANYTHING of the left.

166 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:57:18am
167 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:57:34am

re: #164 realwest

TEST

PASS

168 Nevergiveup  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:58:02am

re: #165 coquimbojoe

I disagree. They should be printed, but there should be at least some cynicism on the part of the paper. They are far too gleeful about printing anything that is anti- (you name it, law, white, religious, good, male, traditional, straight, family, life). They cast a gimlet eye towards anything 'conservative' and 'good' (these two certainly can be exclusive), it would be nice if they did the same to ANYTHING of the left.

I also think his words should be printed on toilet paper!

169 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:58:13am

re: #150 Shug

Monica and Spew in the same Sentence.

how fitting

Ick.

170 realwest  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:58:22am

Damn Time Warner - all of it's executives and repair people should be locked in a windowless room and forced to watch and listen to Obama and the Racist Rev Wright for 24 hours - screens and speakers EVERYWHERE!

171 Ma Sands  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:58:56am

re: #147 JamesTKirk

re: #140 Nevergiveup
re: #136 LanceKates

hey, the guy who invented LSD died.

Leary?

Yeah, you should be leery about taking that stuff...


Yeah.....I have a cousin who did....he had a brain for science-in-electricity, that was off the charts............today he is a pizza-delivery-boy.....acts, dresses, and moves, like an old bum..... ):

172 Sizzlack  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:59:18am

re: #160 Pyrocles

I quite get that, but it seriously boggles my mind how someone could choose to be SO willfully blind in the face of evil that is very good at making itself known publicly

173 MandyManners  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:59:19am

re: #164 realwest

TEST

I got my pencil!

174 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 10:59:36am

re: #35 see bs

Great post, hatchling. Stick around, please.

175 realwest  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:00:04am

Well now that my cable is working again, I gotta go to lunch!
Sorry, wish I could play out here with all y'all, but food comes first! LOL!
Hope I get the chance to "speak" with you later!

Have a great day everyone!

176 Sizzlack  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:00:11am

Would Nancy Pelosi shit a brick if she watched some Hamas TV with Nahoul the racist murderous bee? Or would she just yawn and say Fox News is the real problem...

177 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:00:45am

re: #155 Sizzlack

I think a lot of them are seriously disturbed people, who'se real anger isn't against America or capitalism as much as it is against mums, dadders, their own unhappy childhoods, whatever. I believe they simultaneously yearn for a society in which they will be among the elite comissars, who get to boss the rest of us around, while longing for revenge against the "wicked" American society, which they see as being responsible for all their problems in life. Reason isn't at work here. Emotion and a desire to "get even" with the society they see as having wronged them, is.

I don't believe they'll really be very happy, if America falls, but, by then, it will be too late for them to change their minds. And, more importantly, the rest of us aren't going to be happy either.

178 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:00:57am

re: #176 Sizzlack

Would Nancy Pelosi shit a brick if she watched some Hamas TV with Nahoul the racist murderous bee? Or would she just yawn and say Fox News is the real problem...

Door number two.

179 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:00:59am

[SNIP]

A Conference for Terror

The real goal of Iranian government policy was prominently displayed just a week after the capture of the Karine-A. Beginning on January 9, leading officials of Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestine Islamic Jihad, as well as prominent personalities from Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and the Palestinian Authority gathered in Beirut for a two-day conference. Iranian parliamentarian 'Ali Akbar Mohtashemi, an adviser of Khatami and publisher of a banned reformist paper, brought the endorsement of the Iranian government.38

Ayatollah Sayyid Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, spiritual leader of Hezbollah, gave the keynote speech, sermonizing that all Muslims should promote the cause of "martyrdom opera tions," a euphemism for suicide bombings.

[SNIP]

180 Shug  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:01:59am

re: #176 Sizzlack

Would Nancy Pelosi shit a brick if she watched some Hamas TV with Nahoul the racist murderous bee? Or would she just yawn and say Fox News is the real problem...

She would Blame Bush and the Zionists for murdering Nahoul

181 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:01:59am

The Real Jeremiah Wright:

But here is what I remember most about that morning: At the end of the service, Reverend Wright read aloud a letter that a young woman had sent him. She had grown up in the congregation, was now studying for a PhD in Oceanography, and was writing to thank Reverend Wright and Trinity for all they had done to support her.

This is what we’re about, Jeremiah Wright said, waving the letter from the pulpit, proud enough to be her own father.

Thanks, eboo. I have a great sense of jerry wright now. Not only did he use his congregation to get a comfy house, but he's self congratulatory too. Other than that- your piece did nothing to get to the real jerry wright.

182 Sizzlack  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:02:04am

re: #178 coquimbojoe

Door number two.

And thats what blows my mind.
Fox News might not be the most noble news network in history but last time I checked I didn't see Sean Hannity telling little Christian children that Jews were sons of apes and pigs.

183 Kefirah  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:02:39am

re: #182 Sizzlack

or that the jews manufactured the shoah to eliminate the weak and the disabled.

sickening.

184 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:02:44am

I'm shocked!

With April's numbers the last 7 months have seen the lowest number of US military fatalities since the war began in 2003.
But that is not how the media reported things.

You really could see this coming...

US Military fatalities remain at record low levels but that is not what the corrupt mainstream media is reporting.
This morning the headlines note that military deaths in Iraq were at 7 month high in April.

Reuters reported:

The death toll for U.S. troops in Iraq reached a seven month high in April, with the reported deaths of three more soldiers on Wednesday bringing the monthly toll to 47, the highest since last September.

Lowest death toll since 2003 or highest death toll in past 7 months. I guess it all depends on how you look at it, right?

185 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:03:16am

re: #182 Sizzlack

And thats what blows my mind.
Fox News might not be the most noble news network in history but last time I checked I didn't see Sean Hannity telling little Christian children that Jews were sons of apes and pigs.

You're right. Just make me a Flaming Moe.

186 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:03:53am

The weekly magazines "People" and "US" have more journalistic integrity than "Newsweak".

187 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:04:17am

A Reporter At Large: In The Party Of God (Part II)
Jeffrey Goldberg, 2002-10-28 (Monday), New Yorker
Hezbollah sets up operations in South America and the United States.


[SNIP]

He told me that he came to the Triple Frontier more than twenty years ago, in a wave of Lebanese immigrants who had discovered a part of South America that welcomed international traders. Like most Lebanese businessmen in Ciudad del Este, he lives in the more orderly climate of Foz do Iguacu. He also has a farm outside Foz. For many years, he said, he owned one of the malls in Ciudad del Este, but now he devotes his time to the propagation of the faith. He invited me into his office, on the second floor of the mosque. On the wall was a portrait of Sayyid Muhammad Hussayn Fadlallah, the spiritual leader of Hezbollah; on a shelf was a gun.

[Hasan Chop!]

188 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:04:39am

30 pupils test positive for TB

Thirty pupils have tested positive for tuberculosis (TB) at an independent school.

All the pupils at Birchfield Independent School for Girls in Birmingham were tested for the condition after three were found to carry the infectious type of the disease.

...

No one from the school, a Muslim independent school with about 200 pupils, was available for comment.

189 Sizzlack  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:05:21am

re: #177 TalkinKamel

Well to me that makes plenty of sense. The one ridiculous thing about it though is that of all the countries in the world, if you were born into a crappy situation...this is the place to be...the place where people can make it big coming from nothing. That doesn't happen in Iran or Saudi Arabia. You would think they would at least be grateful that they were born here where they had the opportunity to make something of themselves instead of just bitching they weren't born famous and therefore America should be a socialist country where they are one of the corrupt rulers....coookooo....

190 Pyrocles  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:05:32am

Suicidal and nihilistic leftist mentality. Leftists hate themselves and their own culture, and long to see themselves and the culture replaced by something more primitive, pure, and guilt-free. Since Islamists are attempting to destroy "evil" Judeo-Christian Western culture, Leftists see them as the "good guys" even if the same Leftists would be their victims. I see Leftists as totally guilt-ridden, believing they themselves deserve to die along with the culture that produced them.

re: #172 Sizzlack

I quite get that, but it seriously boggles my mind how someone could choose to be SO willfully blind in the face of evil that is very good at making itself known publicly

191 Sizzlack  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:06:13am

re: #185 coquimbojoe

I ran out of cough syrup this morning...gimmie twenty

192 nyc redneck  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:07:17am

thank you charles for exposing the msm for what it is.
just a bunch of hacks, lying, manipulating, distorting.
they are truly detestable. and a danger to our country.
your work is very important.

193 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:07:58am

re: #191 Sizzlack

I ran out of cough syrup this morning...gimmie twenty

Perfect. I was going to make reference to the secret ingredient but decided against it. You truly live up to your nic.

194 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:09:54am

re: #165 coquimbojoe

They should be printed, but there should be at least some cynicism on the part of the paper.

How about if they just printed the truth? Ayatollahs are only interested in advancing Islam, which spreads squalor, death and destruction wherever it is allowed to exist. And that delusional black preachers, who call themselves African and believe they are still slaves in chains, have no credibility when it comes to discussions about what it means to be a citizen of the United States.

195 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:10:36am

How about an open thread, Charles?

196 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:11:01am

re: #127 BabbaZee

In 2003, for example, then-Lebanese finance minister and current prime minister Fouad Siniora was barred from entering the United States because of a donation he made to al-Mabarrat in 2000. The charity, headed by former Hizballah spiritual leader Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, raised $954,027 in 2005. Just last week, Fadlallah -- who is on the Treasury Department's list of specially designated terrorists and maintains close ties with Hizballah -- asserted in a Washington Post online forum that "jihad is confronting violence by means of violence and force by force, which makes it of a defensive nature at times and a preventive one at others."

LINK

Ahh - what a lovely interpretation of jihad - defensive and preventive ... hm, like preventing Israel from existing ...

197 ethanxxx  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:11:15am

Another Example of the insanity of Hamas, and the twisted logic these hopeless fools have let contaminate their thinking. From the Web site Isreal Matzav.

Hamas' newest blood libel: Israel planned the Holocaust to kill handicapped Jews
Jewish leaders planned the Holocaust to kill "disabled and handicapped" Jews to avoid having to care for them, according to a Hamas TV educational program. As much of the world prepared to commemorate Yom HaShoah, Holocaust Remembrance Day, Hamas TV presented its latest sinister twist on Holocaust denial.

The Hamas TV educational program, broadcast last week, taught that the murder of Jews in the Holocaust was a Zionist plot with two goals:

1- To eliminate "disabled and handicapped" Jews by sending them to death camps, so they would not be a burden on the future state of Israel.

2- At the same time, the Holocaust served to make "the Jews seem persecuted" so they could "benefit from international sympathy."

Amin Dabur, head of the Palestinian "Center for Strategic Research" explained that "the Israeli Holocaust - the whole thing was a joke, and part of the perfect show that [Zionist leader and future Israeli prime minister] Ben Gurion put on." The "young energetic and able" were sent to Israel, while the handicapped were sent "so there would be a Holocaust."

There's much more to the story HERE.

198 zmdavid  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:12:13am

re: #181 Sharmuta

She had grown up in the congregation, was now studying for a PhD in Oceanography, and was writing to thank Reverend Wright and Trinity for all they had done to support her.


He obviously taught her all about the Black Sea.

199 Sizzlack  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:12:31am

re: #193 coquimbojoe

For my entire life I thought it was spelled Sizzlack
and then one day I was on Wikipedia and found out its technically "Szyslak"
go figure...

200 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:12:38am

In other news, the word is that Mavericks coach Avery Johnson has been fired. If you ask me, it's Cuban that should be fired (he should sell the team), for making the boneheaded trade to get Jason Kidd, losing Devin Harris in the process.

201 loppyd  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:12:42am

What is Liberation Theology?

I know exactly what it is, thank you very little.

202 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:12:49am
203 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:13:29am

re: #196 yma o hyd

All evil meets three times daily at Jew Hate Junction

204 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:13:39am

re: #201 loppyd

What is Liberation Theology?

I know exactly what it is, thank you very little.

The people that read the WaPo must be some real dimwits.

205 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:15:05am

Ahmadinejad Wants Russian Troops In Iran

Why is the leadership in Tehran anxious to give Russia the right to land troops in Iran? The question is not fanciful. The Islamic Republic is conducting a devious campaign to prepare public opinion for that eventuality.

The message is relayed through deliberately vague terms that diplomats understand immediately while the general public does not. The device is to revive two treaties that most students of Iranian history thought were dead and buried long ago.

The first is the 1921 Treaty that the government of Sayyed Ziauddin Tabatabai, soon after coming to power in a putsch, signed with Vladimir Lenin’s Bolshevik regime.

At the time the Bolsheviks had some troops in the Iranian province of Gilan on the Caspian Sea, supporting a rebellion led by a leftist mullah known as Mirza Kuchak Khan of the Jungle. At the same time, the British were using Iranian territory to ferry troops and materiel to anti-Bolshevik nationalist forces in Transcaucasia.

206 coquimbojoe  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:15:36am

re: #194 Kreuzueber Halbmond

How about if they just printed the truth? Ayatollahs are only interested in advancing Islam, which spreads squalor, death and destruction wherever it is allowed to exist. And that delusional black preachers, who call themselves African and believe they are still slaves in chains, have no credibility when it comes to discussions about what it means to be a citizen of the United States.

Totally agree, but the truth might be asking too much....

207 nyc redneck  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:15:37am

re: #24 opnion

The Washington post is a silly publication , employing effete, smug individulals.
They are a reliable purveyor of propoganda of our enemies. What they fail to see due to the rarified air where they reside is that these guys are their enemies too.

great point. all these fools at the washington post have completely bought into how special they are.
and they are confident the terrorists will see it too, and even reward it.
chop

208 Ma Sands  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:15:48am

re: #188 NJDhockeyfan

Sent on, to my son the teacher in that all-Muslim school hereabouts..........thanks.....

209 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:17:14am

re: #171 Ma Sands

That's sad. In the beginning, there was a fine line between 'use' and 'abuse', though. People got stupid as people are prone to do.

210 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:18:22am
211 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:19:48am

Hey man... It's all relativism.

212 loppyd  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:20:01am

re: #204 Ward Cleaver

The people that read the WaPo must be some real dimwits.

Some of them are so full of white guilt that I am sure they embrace Black Liberation Theology.

213 Ma Sands  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:20:23am

re: #209 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Yes. The look in his eyes, of something lost that he misses terribly but can't quite put his finger on, haunts me.

214 EC Marm  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:21:50am

re: #208 Ma Sands

Sent on, to my son the teacher in that all-Muslim school hereabouts..........thanks.....


I was just going to make a note to mention that to you next time I "saw" you. For a teacher to contract TB means no more teaching.

215 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:22:03am

All this beast and whore MSM compliciocy is making me vewy vewy sleepy

Be vewwy vewwy kwiet
ahma dhimmi huntin'

216 The Shadow Do  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:22:04am

re: #200 Ward Cleaver

In other news, the word is that Mavericks coach Avery Johnson has been fired. If you ask me, it's Cuban that should be fired (he should sell the team), for making the boneheaded trade to get Jason Kidd, losing Devin Harris in the process.

Wow. Avery got redacted?

217 loppyd  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:22:10am

re: #197 ethanxxx

And all this time I thought it was to get rid of the Jewish gays.

218 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:22:59am

re: #212 loppyd

Some of them are so full of white guilt that I am sure they embrace Black Liberation Theology.

They're brain-dead. Robert Fisk types.

219 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:23:37am

re: #197 ethanxxx

Is there such a thing as sick insanity?

Beyond belief, what these truly sick minds of Hamas come up with.

220 Ma Sands  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:23:52am

re: #214 EC Marm

Really? I didn't know that......I had just googled it, to see how treatable it is, and find that it is quite treatable.......but that those who contracted it have a higher future mortality rate.....

221 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:24:14am

re: #216 The Shadow Do

Wow. Avery got redacted?

That's what ESPN.com is reporting. Nothing official yet. AJ is a good coach and a good guy. He's being scapegoated for the Jason Kidd fiasco, IMHO.

222 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:24:26am

re: #129 selpaw

WOWZA I never saw that before

223 loppyd  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:24:41am

Breaking News Alert
The New York Times
Wednesday, April 30, 2008 -- 2:18 PM ET
-----

Fed Cuts Rate by a Quarter Point, to 2%

The Federal Reserve's policy-setting Open Market Committee
lowered the benchmark Federal Funds target rate by
one-quarter point, to 2.0 percent. The Fed gave no indication
that its thinking about the economy had changed or that it
planned to stop cutting rates now.

224 BrianA  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:25:32am

re: #200 Ward Cleaver

In other news, the word is that Mavericks coach Avery Johnson has been fired. If you ask me, it's Cuban that should be fired (he should sell the team), for making the boneheaded trade to get Jason Kidd, losing Devin Harris in the process.

Amen Ward. Until Cuban (moonbat) is run out of this town, I'll never go to another Mavs game and could care less if the tank every game.

225 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:25:49am

re: #223 loppyd

Breaking News Alert
The New York Times
Wednesday, April 30, 2008 -- 2:18 PM ET
-----

Fed Cuts Rate by a Quarter Point, to 2%

The Federal Reserve's policy-setting Open Market Committee
lowered the benchmark Federal Funds target rate by
one-quarter point, to 2.0 percent. The Fed gave no indication
that its thinking about the economy had changed or that it
planned to stop cutting rates now.

Just two more points, and they'll be shari'a-compliant.

226 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:26:34am

re: #224 BrianA

Amen Ward. Until Cuban (moonbat) is run out of this town, I'll never go to another Mavs game and could care less if the tank every game.

He was good for them in the beginning, but he's gone off the rails.

227 BrianA  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:27:05am

re: #223 loppyd

Breaking News Alert
The New York Times
Wednesday, April 30, 2008 -- 2:18 PM ET
-----

Fed Cuts Rate by a Quarter Point, to 2%

The Federal Reserve's policy-setting Open Market Committee
lowered the benchmark Federal Funds target rate by
one-quarter point, to 2.0 percent. The Fed gave no indication
that its thinking about the economy had changed or that it
planned to stop cutting rates now.

More pain at the pump comming up.

228 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:27:59am

next segment on fox woman wants to sit in court with ninja mask saying freedom trumps rule of law

229 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:28:26am

re: #223 loppyd

2 percent.

I get 1 percent on my free checking.

230 EC Marm  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:28:36am

re: #220 Ma Sands
There are some new highly resistant strains floating around. I'm not sure how long you have to be "cured" before you can go back into a classroom again, but in my state, to be diagnosed means you're out that day.
Does your sons' class have recent immigrants from third world countries?

231 loppyd  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:29:22am

re: #229 ibmkeyboard

2 percent.

I get 1 percent on my free checking.

We have an account with ING, but I don't know the rate....BF takes care of that BS. LOL

232 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:29:40am

Again, why is the Washington Post using a photograph of the Temple Mount for its banner ad "Muslims SPeak Out?"

Why not the Kabaa?

Why not the holy city of Najaf, Karbalah and all those other ""Holy Cities?"

Why specifically chose Judaisms holiest site?

Otherwise, I don't give a shit. No one is buying it.

233 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:30:08am

re: #219 yma o hyd

Is there such a thing as sick insanity?

Beyond belief, what these truly sick minds of Hamas come up with.

It's malignant narcissism as a cultural norm.

...a syndrome characterized by a narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), antisocial features, paranoid traits, and ego-syntonic aggression. Other symptoms may include an absence of conscience, a psychological need for power, and a sense of importance (grandiosity). Pollock wrote: "The malignant narcissist is presented as pathologically grandiose, lacking in conscience and behavioral regulation with characteristic demonstrations of joyful cruelty and sadism."[1] Kernberg claimed that malignant narcissism should be considered part of a spectrum of pathological narcissism, which he saw as ranging from the Cleckley's antisocial character (today's psychopath) at the high end of severity, to malignant narcissism, to NPD at the low end.[2]

Kernberg wrote that malignant narcissism can be differentiated from psychopathy because of the malignant narcissists' capacity to internalize "both aggressive and idealized superego precursors, leading to the idealization of the aggressive, sadistic features of the pathological grandiose self of these patients." According to Kernberg, the psychopaths' paranoid stance against external influences makes them unwilling to internalize even the values of the "aggressor," while malignant narcissists "have the capacity to admire powerful people, and can depend on sadistic and powerful but reliable parental images." Malignant narcissists, in contrast to psychopaths, are also said to be capable of developing "some identification with other powerful idealized figures as part of a cohesive 'gang' ... which permits at least some loyalty and good object relations to be internalized."

Is that not the mentality of Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda and the Khomeneists?

234 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:30:14am

re: #223 loppyd

FOR YOU

235 The Shadow Do  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:30:26am

re: #221 Ward Cleaver

That's what ESPN.com is reporting. Nothing official yet. AJ is a good coach and a good guy. He's being scapegoated for the Jason Kidd fiasco, IMHO.

Right on Mr. Cleaver. We need a rich Lizard to step up and buy this team. Sure tests my love of roundball having the Cuban bastid at the helm.

236 loppyd  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:30:29am

re: #227 BrianA

If I had a nickel for every time that phrase is used in a broadcast, I wouldn't give a damn about the price of gas.

237 debutaunt  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:31:52am

re: #230 EC Marm

There are some new highly resistant strains floating around. I'm not sure how long you have to be "cured" before you can go back into a classroom again, but in my state, to be diagnosed means you're out that day.
Does your sons' class have recent immigrants from third world countries?

A quarantine would solve a huge problem.

238 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:32:42am

re: #232 Ben Hur


Why specifically chose Judaisms holiest site?


You know exactly why.
And we must give a shit, these MFers have infiltrated every aspect of our media, academia and government.

239 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:32:51am

And how is hizbALLAH still a resistance group if according to the UN Israel is no longer in Lebanon?

240 Ben Hur  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:33:46am

re: #238 BabbaZee

You know exactly why.
And we must give a shit, these MFers have infiltrated every aspect of our media, academia and government.


I menat I don't give a shit what this anti-Semite ewok has to say.

241 Ma Sands  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:33:47am

re: #230 EC Marm

All from Somalia, 100% of the pupils, first and second generation immigrants. How recent the first generation ones are, I don't know -- he said all ranges.....the school, btw, is in its second year only.....and buses all the kids out to the suburb from my (& Noam's) inner city.....

242 yma o hyd  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:34:34am

re: #233 Kenneth

It is - in a nutshell.
And by extension of most muslims - because that describes their prophet to a T, and they got to model themselves on him as the 'perfect' human being ...

243 stuiec  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:35:32am

re: #197 ethanxxx

Hamas' newest blood libel: Israel planned the Holocaust to kill handicapped Jews

Jewish leaders planned the Holocaust to kill "disabled and handicapped" Jews to avoid having to care for them, according to a Hamas TV educational program. As much of the world prepared to commemorate Yom HaShoah, Holocaust Remembrance Day, Hamas TV presented its latest sinister twist on Holocaust denial.

Hmm... German doctors developed the extermination vans (in which the exhaust was re-routed into the cargo compartment) as a means of emptying out sanitariums of old, weak and feeble-minded folks. A nice drive into the country, and then a quick burial in an unmarked forest grave.

And then German doctors came up with the metaphor that Jews were the parasites and disease organisms afflicting the healthy body of the German (and European) people. Thus the Jews as a group were classified as dangerous defectives that had to be eliminated.

Interesting how the Hamas folks are able to weave a few strands of truth into a whole cloth of genocide-justifying lies.

244 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:35:56am

re: #240 Ben Hur

I menat I don't give a shit what this anti-Semite ewok has to say.

That's what I mean. We have to give a shit that he is saying it in an American paper and thereby receiving legitimacy by gravitasmosis (you can figure the meaning of that babbaism easily lol)

Entryism.

The Caliphate has many Beards

245 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:37:17am

re: #189 Sizzlack

My experience has been that these people really aren't capable of gratitude, and they have no real idea of what life actually is like, outside the USA. They completely buy into the Marxist meme that America is the world's greatest terrorist, the source of all evil in the world (for people who supposedly question authority, they accept what their left-wing teachers and left-wing pundits, such as Noam Chomsky tell them, far too credulously). As I said, they've always seemed to me to be extremely damaged human beings, with a great deal of unresolved anger and guilt, eager for revenge against a society they blame for all their problems, and, simultaneously, for power, in order to justify themselves, and finally feel important. Logic, reason, knowledge of history (which our schools don't teach, anyway) just aren't at work here; they're revelling in their anger, their feeling of being victims and their unhealthy identification with the Left's officially sanctioned victims, such as the Palestinians.

The other side of this, of course, is their equally unhealthy loathing for the Left's officially sanctioned bad guys: white males, Jews, Christians, Republicans and so on. They like being able to project their anger onto these targets (who aren't likely to attack them back); if they stopped being part of the Left, they'd have to give this pleasure up.

246 EC Marm  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:38:05am

re: #241 Ma Sands
That's something your son should be very aware of. One of the real occupational hazards in teaching. If I had a dime for every time a child coughed, hacked, or sneezed in my face, I'd be wealthy beyond imagination.

247 stuiec  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:38:15am

re: #10 Teacake!

Were the other 5 million non-Jews a hoax as well? Come on fella, just say it straight, you just don't want a Jewish speck of sand in the middle of the islamic world.

Not fair. They don't mind a Jewish speck in their midst, so long as it's restricted to a defined ghetto and acknowledges in word, deed and tribute its fealty to its Islamic masters.

Maybe Israel should simply offer jizya to Saudi Arabia. Then the Arabs could claim to have "conquered" the invincible Jews and feel better about themselves enough to stop murdering their "subjects."

248 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:39:16am

re: #243 stuiec

The Nazis experimented on the use of gas in exterminating the handicapped and feeble-minded before getting around to the Jews.

"Never ask for whom the bell tolls. . . "
---John Donne

249 cygnus  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:40:29am

re: #119 BabbaZee

SF Gate called him the Leader of Hezbollah in 2001

They also call Hezbollah

a "SOCIAL MOVEMENT"

I got a movement for them.

Preferably a 7.5 on the Richter scale.

250 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:40:42am

re: #243 stuiec

And, remember, the Nazis were allied with Moslems in the Middle-East, during WWII, and, doubtless, picked up a lot of propaganda techniques from them, and, later, from the Communists.

251 stuiec  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:40:43am

re: #160 Pyrocles

Because Israel is a modern industrial democracy, thus purely evil according to the leftist worldview. The Palestinians are poor (due to their own non-materialist culture), "dark-skinned" noble-savages in their eyes. Pure, pastoral, and guilt-free non-Western betters.

True -- even more, Israel was conceived as a socialist workers' paradise, and so initially had the full support of the Left. But when it adapted to capitalism AND militarily humbled Left-leaning Arab states, the Left turned on it with all of the bitterness and vitriol reserved for apostates and traitors.

252 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:40:47am

1985
Operatives allegedly trained by the CIA set off a car bomb in an attempt to kill Sheik Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, the Shiite Muslim cleric who some believe to be the spiritual leader of Hezbollah. Over 80 people are killed in the attack near a Beirut mosque. Fadlallah survives. President Reagan and the CIA call off covert operations.

253 Ma Sands  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:42:33am

re: #246 EC Marm

Well.....he IS sick a lot.....especially since he started in that school......I had figured it is because of being around kids, who are often sick....but now that you mention it, it is a far more often occurrence since he began in that school in Jan. .....

254 stuiec  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:43:51am

re: #248 TalkinKamel

The Nazis experimented on the use of gas in exterminating the handicapped and feeble-minded before getting around to the Jews.

"Never ask for whom the bell tolls. . . "
---John Donne

The book The Nazi Doctors by Alan Jay Lifton is a very enlightening, if horrifying, story of how the medical profession in Hitler's Germany was at the heart of the Final Solution. And you're right, the seeds of the Final Solution to the Jewish Question trace back to the efforts of physicians to alleviate the burden of the handicapped, mentally deficient, and feeble from the German people -- by exterminating them.

255 see bs  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:44:38am

re: #174 Ward Cleaver

Thank you! I appreciate your support & this community (which I have read for awhile now)

256 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:45:16am
257 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:46:41am

re: #254 stuiec

Which is, of course, an excellent reason for never letting the Men in the White Coats decree what's best for you.

258 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:47:33am

re: #254 stuiec

Eugenics.

"Eugenics is the self-direction of human evolution": on the Logo from the Second International Eugenics Conference
depicting it as a tree
which unites a variety of different fields.

The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics
By Edwin Black

259 EC Marm  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:48:15am

re: #253 Ma Sands
The first year in the classroom is exposure to every bug known to mankind. You feel sick more often than you feel healthy. If you can survive that, the second year and subsequent ones are a breeze. Near constant hand washing is a necessity. Keeping the classroom supplied with boxes of Kleenex 'for the children' is a good idea, too.

260 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:48:45am

The word eugenics etymologically derives from the Greek word eu (good or well) and the suffix -gen%u0113s (born)

We are well born
you must die.

261 cygnus  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:48:49am

re: #173 MandyManners

I got my pencil!

#2 pencil?

262 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:49:45am

Eugenic policies have been conceptually divided into two categories:

Positive eugenics is aimed to encourage reproduction among the genetically advantaged. Possible approaches include financial and political stimuli, targeted demographic analyses, in vitro fertilization, egg transplants, and cloning.[7]

Negative eugenics is aimed at lowering fertility among the genetically disadvantaged. This includes abortions, sterilization, and other methods of family planning.[8]

263 cygnus  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:49:58am

re: #176 Sizzlack

Would Nancy Pelosi shit a brick if she watched some Hamas TV with Nahoul the racist murderous bee? Or would she just yawn and say Fox News is the real problem...

She would think it's PBS and send them a donation.

264 Ma Sands  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:50:01am

re: #259 EC Marm

'Cept, this is his 7th year of teaching..... ):

265 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:50:30am
I got my pencil

funny I dont feel tardy

266 loppyd  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:50:33am

re: #234 Ben Hur

FOR YOU

Nice view of the Monster Seats in which I sat the night John Effin Kerry through out the (dirt ball) first pitch the night before the DNC started!

Final score: Red Sox 9 Yankees 6

267 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:51:10am

re: #259 EC Marm


EC, you teach?

268 loppyd  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:51:11am

re: #265 BabbaZee

funny I dont feel tardy

But then my homework was never quite like this....

269 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:52:04am

re: #265 BabbaZee

My favorite band of all time.

I was at the concert when they filmed Panama.

Man, the good old days.

270 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:52:12am

Eugenics: The Jihad of Scientific Racism

271 EC Marm  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:52:30am

re: #267 formercorpsman
Did. Five years. Same amount of time as Mama Winger. It's the national average.

272 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:52:42am

re: #269 formercorpsman

I saw them at the US festical in 1983.
DLR was horrible. Drunk out of his gourd.

273 EC Marm  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:53:26am

re: #264 Ma Sands

'Cept, this is his 7th year of teaching..... ):


Not good. Different (harsher) climate where he is now? Longer winters?

274 kansas  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:53:38am

He just wants to talk numbers. He seems to agree with the premise that the Jews were murdered. He is just negotiating a number.

I heard this story. Winston Churchill was intoxicated at a function when a particularly obnoxious woman caught his attention. He asked her "Madam, would you sleep with me for one million dollars?"

"Why yes" She replied.

He responded "Well, then would you sleep with me for one dollar?"

"Of course not", she said, "what do you think I am, a whore?"

He replied, "We have already established what you are, we are now negotiating a price."

275 loppyd  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:54:53am

re: #269 formercorpsman

My favorite band of all time.

I was at the concert when they filmed Panama.

Man, the good old days.

parachute pants and big hair....

276 cygnus  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:55:15am

re: #197 ethanxxx

Another Example of the insanity of Hamas, and the twisted logic these hopeless fools have let contaminate their thinking. From the Web site Isreal Matzav.

Hamas' newest blood libel: Israel planned the Holocaust to kill handicapped Jews
Jewish leaders planned the Holocaust to kill "disabled and handicapped" Jews to avoid having to care for them, according to a Hamas TV educational program. As much of the world prepared to commemorate Yom HaShoah, Holocaust Remembrance Day, Hamas TV presented its latest sinister twist on Holocaust denial.

The Hamas TV educational program, broadcast last week, taught that the murder of Jews in the Holocaust was a Zionist plot with two goals:

1- To eliminate "disabled and handicapped" Jews by sending them to death camps, so they would not be a burden on the future state of Israel.

2- At the same time, the Holocaust served to make "the Jews seem persecuted" so they could "benefit from international sympathy."

Amin Dabur, head of the Palestinian "Center for Strategic Research" explained that "the Israeli Holocaust - the whole thing was a joke, and part of the perfect show that [Zionist leader and future Israeli prime minister] Ben Gurion put on." The "young energetic and able" were sent to Israel, while the handicapped were sent "so there would be a Holocaust."

There's much more to the story HERE.

(self-deleted)!

277 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:55:27am

re: #267 formercorpsman

For you

278 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:55:54am

re: #272 BabbaZee


14 times total.

Old, VHgr, III.

Yeah, when he is out of his mind not good.

When he was on, he was on.

I am getting older though. I realize I can't go back. I won't shell out the bucks they are asking for this time around.

279 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:56:16am

re: #271 EC Marm

What level?

280 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:57:14am

re: #278 formercorpsman

I have ZERO interest in going anywhere near an arena packed with people anymore

LOL

281 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:57:47am

re: #275 loppyd

It was fun though.

282 cygnus  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:58:54am

re: #240 Ben Hur

I menat I don't give a shit what this anti-Semite ewok has to say.

Don't insult Ewoks.

283 TalkinKamel  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 11:59:47am

re: #262 BabbaZee

Good link on California eugenics.

I'm pretty sure an Irish aunt of mine was involuntarily sterilized, when she was around 12 or so.

Never trust the Men in White Coats.

284 EC Marm  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 12:00:43pm

re: #279 formercorpsman
Elementary. I was the rare exception to the rule. A male. Middle aged, but still a male. More men should be at that level. The pay is lousy, but I had already made (and lost) my fortune.

285 BabbaZee  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 12:00:57pm

re: #283 TalkinKamel

Never trust the Men in White Coats.


NEVER!


WLGF out

286 Ma Sands  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 12:01:48pm

re: #273 EC Marm

Well, his old school was 11 miles northeast of my house; this school is about 15 miles southwest of my house..... South is warmer, wouldn't you think? :)

287 EC Marm  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 12:03:15pm

re: #286 Ma Sands
Okay, it's not that. :~)
Seven years, hmm. Any trace of burnout yet?

288 formercorpsman  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 12:03:19pm

re: #284 EC Marm


Was that around here?

289 Ma Sands  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 12:07:05pm

re: #287 EC Marm

He has become quite estranged from his mother.....and is planning on marrying next month in that condition.....if that counts.....which I kinda think it does.....

290 J.S.  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 12:08:14pm

And I thought the New York Times was disgusting...

291 loppyd  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 12:08:24pm

re: #281 formercorpsman

It was fun though.

It sure was!

292 see bs  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 12:13:58pm

re: #205 Kenneth

I was not able to read the link from work, but from your post I deduce that with Russian troops stationed in Iran (especially located at or near locations such as any nut-house fuhrer bunker, nuke plant, etc.) becomes a deterrent for U.S strikes in fear of Russian collateral damage.

While Iran undermines Israel and the U.S, they have Russian human shield...er...troops that will vouch that no nuke work is going on, yadda yadda yadda.

Russia receives "assistance" in calming/pacifying its Muslim population in the south.

293 EC Marm  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 12:19:25pm

re: #288 formercorpsman
Yup. 'burbs.

294 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 12:19:58pm

re: #292 see bs

That sounds like the basic strategy. The fact is there are Russian "military advisors" in Iran right now helping with the installation, training & operation of the fancy new Russian air defense systems.

295 Kenneth  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 12:21:14pm

re: #242 yma o hyd

Therein lies the root of the pathology.

296 EC Marm  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 12:22:14pm

re: #289 Ma Sands
Ah geez, that's a shame. :~(

297 Lynn B.  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 1:14:43pm

Let's not forget Arun Ghandi's contributions to On Faith.

298 Athos  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 1:28:57pm

re: #156 Nevergiveup

The rot in the soul is beginning to show on the outside....that and living with a walking cadaver.

Imus and Colmes.....the undead are among us.

299 Alibaba  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 2:13:35pm

I had hoped that 9/11 would put an end to this nonsense, but I was wrong - it has actually intensified.re: #11 Silhouette

300 Alibaba  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 2:14:43pm

re: #292 see bs

Russia should watch itself - the Moslems in its midst will not be pacified.

301 jackflash  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 3:26:34pm

As a non-Jew, this business about holocaust denial is very mysterious to me. It can't be that someone out there is saying that a bunch of Jews (and others) weren't killed by Nazis both before and during Hitler's war. That seems to be so well documented that only crazy people would deny that particular fact. After doing a little (very little) poking around, it appears that there are two things in some contention: how many, and how? The first seems to be a non-issue. While it's true that measurement is a difficult thing during wartime, and while it may be of some academic interest whether the number of Jews killed by the Germans were 6 million, 3 million, or 600,000, I can't see why it makes much difference. Personally, I'd be shocked if a number that was estimated right after the war remained unchanged after further reflection and research. So whether it's 6 million or 600,000, the point is that it was a whole lot of people, some apparently related to some on this board, who won't be coming home. That is a hideous tragedy and deserves the appellation "holocaust."

The second issue (how?) is a harder nut, I'd guess. I saw something on MEMRI TV where some guy on Iranian TV was saying that there were a lot of Jews who died in those camps, but they mainly died of disease. Typhus, mainly. He claimed that they just weren't gassed. However, it also seems to me that there were sufficient witnesses to at least some gassing to establish that at least some were gassed. Whether it was more than half or not is not important. They were taken from their families, broken up, and never seen again. Even if they were tickled to death, once again they aren't coming home. I see no harm in saying this, and I really can't call any of this a "denial" of the holocaust. It's just some silly people who want to minimize the impact of what happened, or maybe get published.

302 elrushbuni  Wed, Apr 30, 2008 6:32:00pm

If this idiiot and his peace-loving Ummah were/are so righteous and pious, then they would have done what they could to accomodate/ accept the newcomer Jews to "Palestine" as their brother/ cousin or whatever bloodline goes way back to father Abraham. It is clear from their eternal doctrines and teachings and public policies that they have had and always will have a problem accepting the mere existence of non-believers (& especially Jews) in this world. Why do so many in America not stand up to these people? (Rhetorical ? don't even attempt to answer it).

303 Jed  Thu, May 1, 2008 5:49:12am

#301 - Jackflash

When you are in Europe, see Aushwitz and Dauchau.

When in Washington DC, see the Holocaust Museum. Gen. Eisenhower didn't lie.

304 TalkinKamel  Thu, May 1, 2008 6:42:23am

re: #301 jackflash

Guys like Fadlallah aren't just being "silly", Jack, and they're not just trying to minimize the Holocaust.

They're trying to demonize Israel, saying it has no right to exist, and they're trying to get the world to accept the second Holocaust they're planning.


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