I like how you don't even need to prove he did it.

Such lovely people. I can't wait to see more of their students here for flight training.

Is that dateline pronounced "Hate-A"?

The religion of tolerance.

Reverend Wright, you might want to postpone any trips to the magic kingdom you have planned in the future.

Well, we have blue laws in America.

/LLL

Once the uproar over this sentence arises, the Sowdis will only beat him severely, then deport him.

Shave and a haircut
Two bits.

Saudi Style.

Can't just deport him, and train some young Saudi lad to an honest days work can we. Noooooo! Off with his head.

You can take some folks out of the sand, but can't take the sand outta' their heads.

Quarrel with a neighbor, accuse of blasphemy, neighbor meets allah, quarrel solved.

There's a Sweeney Todd joke in there somewhere, but I can't find it.

Our friends the Saudis is my favorite sit com.

It has humor, idiocy, beheadings, rapes, floggings, whores- sexual and political- and other good family fun.

The Crucible.

Meanwhile, dateline: Ankara:

Turkish Ambassador Denies News Reports On Decision To Behead Turkish Barber
Published: 5/1/2008
ANKARA - Turkish Ambassador to Riyadh Naci Koru on Thursday denied news reports that a Saudi Arabian court ratified the conviction of Turkish barber Sabri Bogday, who was sentenced to beheading in Saudi Arabia on charges of "cursing the name of God".

Koru told A.A. correspondent that the court process was concluded during Wednesday`s hearing, noting that appeal process would take start from now on.

Koru said, "we will appeal against the verdict within a month", noting, "we are very hopeful".

Bogday has been in jail for 13 months in Saudi Arabia after a quarrel with a neighbor. Bogday was accused of cursing the name of God.

Don't ask me what "noting that appeal process would take start from now on." means.

Just a little off the top. please.

saudi arabia- putting the "mental" in fundamentalist.

i wouldn't go to saudi arabia on a flying carpet w/ a key to my very own palace. nope i'm not going.

But America has more people in prison, which makes us more evil. Can't you see the oppression?!

/LLL

re: #15 Ben Hur

Just a little off the top. please.

There it is... nice.

re: #15 Ben Hur

Just a little off the top. please.

lmfao!

and are we really sure that if this government gets overthrown something worse will take it's place?

/ that's becoming an impossibility.

"Sowdeeeeee"
(pigs...everyone of them)

It's just like how the fascist Bush is always going around beheading people for swearing! You know, like, swearing on TV and stuff? Like, the FCC ("fascist Christian censors"), and everything? Anyway, Bush is just as bad.

/official moonbat position on this story

re: #1 Diamond Bullet

I like how you don't even need to prove he did it.

It was the seriousness of the charge.

Close shave?

Turkish Barber Opts for Virgins After Spat With Wife.

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That's not a bad one either. Maybe the moonbats will adopt that one instead of mine. Let's keep an eye on kos and digg.com and see which of us is right.

But according to this site for people who want to convert to Islam:

Islam is the faith of equality and justice for all.

re: #17 nyc redneck

i wouldn't go to saudi arabia on a flying carpet w/ a key to my very own palace. nope i'm not going.

I have plans to visit SA in my lifetime. Of course its as part of the project to build a Cathedral and Synagogue in Mecca during the reconstruction, which will be necessary due to other plans I have.

re: #21 paxnhymn

Well, the Taliban certainly were worse.

re: #29 gman

But according to this site for people who want to convert to Islam:

Islam is the faith of equality and justice for all.

I think that was just a typo- should read "justice for allah".

These people have no concept of free speech or human rights. They are backward, barbaric savages who would rather murder a human being than allow him to curse a god that they can neither see nor hear from. How many innocent people have been murdered this way?!

re: #31 Irene NYC

Well, the Taliban certainly were worse.

Of course thats like saying AIDS is worse than hepatitis, you don't want to get stuck with either if you can avoid it.

It's not okay to mis-treat the name of Allah when arguing w/a neighbor but it is okay to scream "Allah Akbar" when you murder people. Got it.

Obama Knows Why He's Attracted Attacks: Because "I am an African-American Named Barack Obama"

Islam is the faith of equality and justice for all.

That would be a great nic for a troll. Oh- wait.

Iran Blocks Jewish Group From UN Racism Conference!

re: #24 incanus

It was the seriousness of the charge.

that's right. and because he's a turk and not a saudi, he is presumed guitly.
in fact the "crime" wouldn't have occurred if he hadn't been in their country.
the neighbor is a fcking assh*le.

Will the leftards in the EU and UN stop protesting the US and Gitmo long enough to raise an issue with this real violation of human rights?

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the jockstraps of the Wahibbi.

re: #38 Ben Hur

Iran Blocks Jewish Group From UN Racism Conference!

Classic!

re: #36 Ben Hur

Obama Knows Why He's Attracted Attacks: Because "I am an African-American Named Barack Obama"
"Everyone who disagrees with me is a racist!"

FTFY

re: #36 Ben Hur

Obama Knows Why He's Attracted Attacks: Because "I am an African-American Named Barack Obama"

Oh. I thought it was because he was a narcissistic Socialist, whitey-hating racist who appears to be a terrorist sympathizer.

Maybe Barack Hussein needs to get his tinfoil hat adjusted. And start listening to all of us bitter white people who cling to our guns and God.

re: #38 Ben Hur

Iran Blocks Jewish Group From UN Racism Conference!

"We can't allow members of that race in our racism conference!"

re: #40 Athos

Will the leftards in the EU and UN stop protesting the US and Gitmo long enough to raise an issue with this real violation of human rights?
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the jockstraps of the Wahibbi.

NO.

re: #38 Ben Hur

It's a racism conference, why not put some bigotry on display just in case some of the attendees weren't quite certain what bigotry is.

Didn't Rev. Wright use the Lord's name in vain too?

re: #31 Irene NYC

Well, the Taliban certainly were worse.

I lived in SA for 2 years..not be a nose hair....

Hey, Batman got a terrorist!

One Terrorist Surrender To Turkish Security Forces In Batman
Published: 5/1/2008
ANKARA - One terrorist surrendered to Turkish security forces in southeastern province of Batman, Turkish General Staff said on Wednesday.

A statement posted on website of the General Staff said one terrorist who escaped from terrorist organization surrendered to security teams in Batman on Tuesday.

In a separate development, body of one terrorist was found out in Pulumur Brook in the southeastern region. Turkish soldiers waged an operation in Tunceli province on April 9th and 10th and killed 11 terrorists. Officials said four of killed terrorists fell to Pulumur Brook.

Oh, he surrendered in Batman, not to Batman....sorry.

"Bogday has been in jail for 13 months in Saudi Arabia San Fransisco after a quarrel with a neighbor near his barber shop. Bogday was accused of cursing the name of God Obama."

Welcome to twenty first century free speech.

A bad day for Bogday if his head gets Saud off.

re: #36 Ben Hur

Obama Knows Why He's Attracted Attacks: Because "I am an African-American Named Barack Obama"

Damn, and all this time I thought it was because he was a naive socialist who consorts with terrorist, has no real experience, and whose world view has no relation to mine. Turns out I just didn't like him because he was black.

Wow.

Hey hey. All this judgemental condemnation.
Come on we punish murders, right?
All cultures are equal.

Isn't there anything about forgiveness in the qu-ran?

Charles, any way to mount a cyber protest against the beheading of
this poor barber? News like this should be spread all over the world to show what happens to people under Sharia law.

re: #36 Ben Hur

Obama Knows Why He's Attracted Attacks: Because "I am an African-American Named Barack Obama"

I wonder how his whining would go over if he decided to say either "Arab-American" or "white American" both of which have the benefit of being true - at least almost true - the "American" part is dubious, at best.

The Wahhabi's are just a dangerious as the mullaha's in Iran..
Oh wait....Islam is a religion of peace. Nevermind.

That allah sure is mean.

/Oh, did I just blaspheme by using a small "a"?

Jeez just came here on a pilgrimage and my wife drops something on my foot and I just couldn't help myself judge - you just cannot say darnit when your foot hurts that much. I tried to stop but it just slipped out. You lose your head over that huh? What if I said )(^&*^*^*^%$*(^ and )&%$*#^$*(^ would that get me some virgins? How about you go F�^ yourself and I just leave this flea infested rat hole?

There is no god named "Allah." Mohammad made it all up.

And our friends the saudis see fit to fit to whitewash the trial of Tariq Aziz:

There is much for which Saddam and his henchmen should answer, but it must now be wondered what purpose will be served by this and future trials.

He is 72 years old and has suffered a series of strokes since he gave himself up to the Americans in 2003. Even Iraqis, who once saw him as a key member of a hated regime, may wonder what good will come out of his trial.

re: #47 NoSubmission

Didn't Rev. Wright use the Lord's name in vain too?

not their allah.
just our lord.

TV Filler Presents US Presidents As Slaughterers.

re: #59 rorschach

That allah sure is mean.

/Oh, did I just blaspheme by using a small "a"?

Infidel, I Keel You

re: #36 Ben Hur

Obama Knows Why He's Attracted Attacks: Because "I am an African-American Named Barack Obama"

Well, we might as well get used to it.
The whole point of white, leftist politics is sanctimonious narcissism, proving that you are one of the holy, enlightened ones. Their little drama requires casting others as knuckle-dragging sinners.

It is odd that even lefties who scoff at the very notiin of "sin," are nevertheless obsessed with absolving themselves.

re: #62 godfrey

There is no god named "Allah." Mohammad made it all up.

There may be a god named Allah, but God's name is not Allah.

re: #37 Sharmuta

That would be a great nic for a troll. Oh- wait.

Good one!

re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Damn, and all this time I thought it was because he was a naive socialist who consorts with terrorist, has no real experience, and whose world view has no relation to mine. Turns out I just didn't like him because he was black.

Wow.

You're just bitter.

re: #36 Ben Hur

Obama Knows Why He's Attracted Attacks: Because "I am an African-American Named Barack Obama"

I heard him say that. No, Barry your wrong.
You get attacked , because you have been exposed as an anti American racist, who married another one.
You have spent youir adult life seeking out & befriending Marxist adherents.
Your faux bio about being disdvantaged is crap. You led a life of privilege.
Oh and you can't bowl

Kiss the ground you live on, citizens of the USA

And when you are asked to defend the Constitution, take your oath seriously.

And, "Reverened" Wright, I'd love it if you'd move to SA, where they probably would not consider it blasphemous that you used G-d's name to say "G-d Damn America"

re: #36 Ben Hur

We knew this was coming.

Be a man Barry.

Be a man.

re: #73 song_and_dance_man

Some think Allah is Stan. I got a hunch he is one of his captains. Enoch called these fallen creatures Watchers.

Enoch?

re: #71 opnion

I heard him say that. No, Barry your wrong.
You get attacked , because you have been exposed as an anti American racist, who married another one.
You have spent youir adult life seeking out & befriending Marxist adherents.
Your faux bio about being disdvantaged is crap. You led a life of privilege.
Oh and you can't bowl

You're just bitter too.

/sarc (in case its needed)

Seriously, this is proof that he is done. He may get the nomination - but he's done....far too flawed to be taken as a serious candidate by any but the hardest of the leftards. He can't take accountability and responsibility for his own lies and his own failings, so he has to belittle and assign blame.

re: #62 godfrey

There is no god named "Allah." Mohammad made it all up.

Oh, so next your going to say that the kabaa is not a meteor that hit the Garden of Eden? your are probably going to say that it was not given to the Prophet by the Angel Gabriele & that it is not indestructible? You are aren't you?

How much does it cost to shave a turkey these days?

re: #62 godfrey

There is no god named "Allah." Mohammad made it all up.

Speaking of lying ( and knowing you're a big reader ) have you had the chance to read Dinesh DeSouza's "The End Of Racism" yet? If only the part outlining the deliberate lies and self-induced of the Afro-Centrists (like the Ayatollah Wright/Fharrakahn etc) would become part of the "diversity training" in our education system, the world would be a saner place. Sanity and reason would leap exponentially if the whole book was widely read.

re: #76 Athos

You're just bitter too.

/sarc (in case its needed)

Seriously, this is proof that he is done. He may get the nomination - but he's done....far too flawed to be taken as a serious candidate by any but the hardest of the leftards. He can't take accountability and responsibility for his own lies and his own failings, so he has to belittle and assign blame.

I'm only bitter because I dropped my guns & bible on my foot.
That smarts!

re: #79 HBob

2 bits

Sharia law seems to be merely a way for the "in crowd'' to push their way around.
Disagree with one of these and you die!
Lies in sharia court seem to pass for truth when they come out of the ''right'' mouths.

The official word at Huffington Leftoast? *crickets*

NINE Billion names of GOD but allah is not one of them.
Therefore he couldn't have been cursing GOD.

re: #76 Athos

It's time to hope that he gets the nomination. In a general election, he's toast.

re: #83 song_and_dance_man

Too bad Islam doesn't have the practice of indulgences.

How true. Haven't they ever heard of fines?
Seriously, they kill to easily. It always seems the first option.
That society must enjoy it.

I guess condemning someone to death for heresy is, in a twisted way, a very fitting manner to observe May Day.

On Obama; just wait until he loses the nomination (or, failing that, election). I think he'll go completely race-arsonist bonkers; Sharpton will be having to chide him to calm down. Certainly Lady MacBeth Obama will be screaming about how racist white people denied America Hope And Change.

re: #15 Ben Hur

Just a little off the top. please.

You beat me to it.

In this case, it'll be " alot off the top..."

.

New Jihad Watch - Watch Your Language

re: #80 Daisy

Speaking of lying ( and knowing you're a big reader ) have you had the chance to read Dinesh DeSouza's "The End Of Racism" yet? If only the part outlining the deliberate lies and self-induced of the Afro-Centrists (like the Ayatollah Wright/Fharrakahn etc) would become part of the "diversity training" in our education system, the world would be a saner place. Sanity and reason would leap exponentially if the whole book was widely read.

Losing the Race should be on the same reading list.

re: #87 wolfie

IMHO we are watching the denouement of the Democratic Party.

re: #87 wolfie

It's time to hope that he gets the nomination. In a general election, he's toast.

Only if McCain actually campaignms like Barry is not his 'Dear Friend"
He broke bad the other day on Obama. I hope that it felt good./

re: #88 opnion

How true. Haven't they ever heard of fines?
Seriously, they kill to easily. It always seems the first option.
That society must enjoy it.

They ain't fundamentalists for nothing.

re: #89 Occasional Reader

Does that mean Lady Macbeth Obama no longer will be proud of her country? How fleeting be the pride of a narcissist.

I really want to catch a CNN piece in which Dondi tries to explain this one away.

From the very first moment that the oil ticks began to use oil as a political weapon, we should have moved four-square toward a policy of energy independence. That was 30+ years ago, and all we have done is wasted time.
Of course, our president then was Jimmah, so what we got was a big Dept of Energy, stoopid rationing, and no change but the wrong che-enge.
The Saudis have us and the whole world over a barrel....of oil.

re: #77 opnion
re: godfrey's "There is no god named "Allah." Mohammad made it all up."

Oh, so next your going to say that the kabaa is not a meteor that hit the Garden of Eden? your are probably going to say that it was not given to the Prophet by the Angel Gabriele & that it is not indestructible? You are aren't you?

opnion, we've gotta keep our eyes on godfrey :) - he's the sort of fellow to take on Farrakhan's claim concerning his Mother Ship and certain melanin deprived sub-humans (aka "whitey" aka "white devils") who mainly exist in order to one day be exterminated by the good people of NoI. Ah, the love and peace of it all.

Cussing = unacceptable
Beheading = completely acceptable

re: #93 song_and_dance_man

Repentance and mercy seem foreign to Islamic dogma. I'm no expert in Islam, but I know evil when I see it.

Where is storagemanager when we need him?

Where would they get the concept of Mercy? Their idea of God, is a petty, psycho Allah.
Their 'book" is not about mercy. It is a bout violence & revenge.

re: #98 Occasional Reader

I really want to catch a CNN piece in which Dondi tries to explain this one away.

(He looks a little like Dondi, right?)

A Saudi Arabian court on Thursday ratified the conviction of Turkish barber Sabri Bogday, who was sentenced to beheading in Saudi Arabia on charges of “cursing the name of allah.”

Bogday has been in jail for 13 months in Saudi Arabia after a quarrel with a neighbor near his barber shop. Bogday was accused of cursing the name of allah.

This barber seem a little not-headed.

re: #41 jcm

Classic!

Well, they would have been the only non-racists there.

What a wrong-headed policy.

re: #106 incanus

What a wrong-headed policy.

What a wrong be-headed policy.

Fixed

re: #38 Ben Hur

Iran Blocks Jewish Group From UN Racism Conference!

What's your point? "Jewish" is not a race. They are assembled to discuss racism against REAL races, like "Muslim".

/

re: #90 Dad O' Blondes

"Take it all off"

Neighbor wins all

/Allah only wants submission. Civility is of no consequence.

re: #100 Daisy

re: godfrey's "There is no god named "Allah." Mohammad made it all up."

opnion, we've gotta keep our eyes on godfrey :) - he's the sort of fellow to take on Farrakhan's claim concerning his Mother Ship and certain melanin deprived sub-humans (aka "whitey" aka "white devils") who mainly exist in order to one day be exterminated by the good people of NoI. Ah, the love and peace of it all.

Wait,wait! Daisy are you telling me that the "Mother Ship", is not for real?
Or how about the "white Devil" existing because ol a lab experiment gone bad?
Cause you know, Reverend Wright really likes Farrakhan.

re: #82 bolivar

2 bits

How can a guy keep his head above water with prices like that? Seems like expenses would gobble up all the profits.

re: #109 song_and_dance_man

Behold what Ishmael has wrought!

Behold what Abraham wrought in the effort of the flesh in a lack of faith.

re: #15 Ben Hur

Just a little off the top. please.

you magnificent bastard!

Not even going to read the other comments. I came here to say:

That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah.

Jehova!
Jehova!
Jehova!

/waiting to be stoned to death

re: #97 Athos

Does that mean Lady Macbeth Obama no longer will be proud of her country? How fleeting be the pride of a narcissist.

Michelle's pride in her country will prove to have a lifespan approximating that of midge.

re: #11 Mathew1977

There's a Sweeney Todd joke in there somewhere, but I can't find it.

There's a hole in the world like a great black pit/ and it's filled with people who are filled with shit/ and the vermin of the world inhabit it-

Surprise: Freed Gitmo detainee carried out suicide bombing in Iraq
Surprise!

re: #109 song_and_dance_man

Ishmael has nothing to do with it. He had a special blessing from G-d and G-d's help until he became very skilled and self sufficient.

re: #119 Killgore Trout

Were you looking for me earlier?

And by the way, didn't those guys swear on the Koran to give up violence?

Oh, by the way, I want to make a general apology for mentioning Reverend Wright in my last post.
I heard Michell Obama say that she was tired of hearing it & in so many words, STFU & move on.
Do you think that she would mind if I talked about William Ayres, Tony Rezko & Raila Odinga?

re: #113 HBob

How can a guy keep his head above water with prices like that? Seems like expenses would gobble up all the profits.

Grrrrroooooooaaaaaannnnn that is sooo bad.

re: #119 Killgore Trout

Surprise: Freed Gitmo detainee carried out suicide bombing in Iraq
Surprise!

The torture and intolerable conditions drove him to it.
/L³

re: #120 Roger

Ishmael has nothing to do with it. He had a special blessing from G-d and G-d's help until he became very skilled and self sufficient.

Which makes it pretty clear that Arabs are not descendants of Ishmael.

re: #116 Lerxt

Not even going to read the other comments. I came here to say:

That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah.

Jehova!
Jehova!
Jehova!

/waiting to be stoned to death

Are there any women here?

re: #114 jcm

Behold what Abraham wrought in the effort of the flesh in a lack of faith.

Too bad that there can't be a redo.

re: #119 Killgore Trout

Surprise: Freed Gitmo detainee carried out suicide bombing in Iraq
Surprise!

He was driven to it by the inhumane treatment he received at the hands of thuggish American troops. Oh, and he was innocent.

/

re: #124 jcm

The torture and intolerable conditions drove him to it.
/L³

The fact that his life was better in Gitmo probably drove him to it.

it's equivalent to the barbary of executing tookie williams

/

re: #121 Ben Hur

Were you looking for me earlier?

I don't think so. Was it Killian Bundy (or maybe Killer Tomato)? People sometimes get us confused.

I'm wondering if the Turkish government would be publically objecting to this, or have they slid down the hole to where they agree that the guy has it coming. The Israelis (not to mention the rest of us) don't want to have to put up with these deatheater events, but the deatheaters support each other in doing it, even to their own expats... so we're really asking for special treatment.

I had a student who had spent some time in the Pigdom of Assrabia.
He said that the religious police would round up any non-Saudis to make sure they watched the hand choppings and beheadings. I don't think he liked the place.
I'll go when there is a Chabad house in Mecca.

re: #96 Sharmuta

They ain't fundamentalists for nothing.

I dislike the use of the word "fundamentalist" to mean fanatic, bigoted extremist, murderous whacko. This straight out of the leftist lexicon.
In a Christian/Protestant context, a Fundamentalist is one who holds to a traditionalist, literal interpretation of the Bible and to the basic Nicene creed....in opposition to those who prefer "nuanced" interpretation and to the liberal, "social gospel" movement.
The word has been deliberately adopted by the left to discredit traditional Christians by lumping them in with crazed murderers. I think we should avoid using it.

PS- I am not a Fundamentalist, nor even a Protestant.

re: #131 Killgore Trout

Cool.

Carry on.

re: #119 Killgore Trout

Surprise: Freed Gitmo detainee carried out suicide bombing in Iraq
Surprise!

gee wonder why we locked em up what? they let some go and they so bad stuff - why we just have to let em all go - we might huwt thewe pooo feewins now we just can't have that now can we?

Should give em lead poisoning after we extract information from them. I am so sick and tired of the coddle the terrorist left and especially the ACLU - don't get me started on that one.

re: #40 Athos

Will the leftards in the EU and UN stop protesting the US and Gitmo long enough to raise an issue with this real violation of human rights?

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the jockstraps of the Wahibbi UN.

There. Fixed.

re: #136 bolivar

Can't we castrate them before we let them go? It should make them less aggressive.

re: #110 Elydo

"Take it all off"

HA!

The poor barber is going to get the closest shave of all time.

.

re: #125 Ben Hur

Yes, and folks forget he was the second after Abraham to be circumcised. He also came back to meet with Isaac and together they buried their father Abraham. There was no quarrel between the two men. Later on Ishmael's descendants assisted Joseph. There is no connection with islam which started by a false prophet in the late 600's AD.

Estimated Prophet.

re: #140 song_and_dance_man

So true. Even though our brother Isaiah said the time of the father's eating sour grapes that set their children's teeth on edge are over, it doesn't mean that mistakes can be excused - they can still be considered generational. It means everyone from then to now can't use the mistakes of our forefathers as an excuse to continue in error.

I'd rather be in the camp of Isaac and prefer it over the camp of the outcast.

True.
And stands as a lesson for us today. Our efforts in the flesh (religion) for God, have long term and negative consequences.

re: #141 Roger

Yes, and folks forget he was the second after Abraham to be circumcised.

Just a little off the top, please.

re: #144 Occasional Reader

lol! Better while not of age too:-)

HATAY - A Saudi Arabian court on Thursday ratified the conviction of Turkish barber Sabri Bogday, who was sentenced to beheading in Saudi Arabia on charges of “cursing the name of God.”

Bogday has been in jail for 13 months in Saudi Arabia after a quarrel with a neighbor near his barber shop. Bogday was accused of cursing the name of God.

Christian: oooo, you cursed the name of God. I'm offended. I'm never coming here again and I'm telling my friends!

Muslim: oooo, you cursed the name of God. Off with your head.

Tell me which is the religion of peace.

Second after Abraham to join the "Blind Cobbler's Thumb Club."

re: #141 Roger

Yes, and folks forget he was the second after Abraham to be circumcised. He also came back to meet with Isaac and together they buried their father Abraham. There was no quarrel between the two men. Later on Ishmael's descendants assisted Joseph. There is no connection with islam which started by a false prophet in the late 600's AD.

Careful, you'll have a fatwa issued against you, talking about Mo like that (Pork and Bacon Upon Him)

Blind Cobbler's Thumb?

Give it time.

You'll get it.

Saudi Arabia is a backward holdover from the 7th century.

So, what is Canada's excuse (where it is completely legal to kill a nine-month old baby, er, sorry "fetal tissue").

Here in Canada we can go mano a mano with the Saudis in terms of sheer homicidal insanity any day of the week. And we do just that, if you know anyone in the medical field here.

*spit*

re: #151 Pro-Bush Canuck

You folks may be nuttier!

HAHAHAHAHA!

Just kidding!

I knew the "WOT" was a Lie, when Bush let the Saudi's off the hook after 9/11.

re: #144 Occasional Reader

Just a little off the top, please.

Don't trim the sides.

re: #150 Ben Hur

Blind Cobbler's Thumb?

Isn't that one of those books on "Intelligent Design"?

/ducks

re: #138 Ay, Caramba

Can't we castrate them before we let them go? It should make them less aggressive.

Now see, we were nice to them and let them go and they just want to kill so I don't think they have earned the right to use oxygen any longer. Sorry, guess I am a hard ass on that subject. Execute killers, rapists and child molesters. They cannot be reformed nor can we be absolutely they will not commit the same heinous acts again.

WAB's patented subject changer

MEREDITH VIEIRA: Michelle, do you feel that the Reverend Wright betrayed your husband?

MICHELLE OBAMA: I think Barack has spoken so clearly and eloquently about this.

MEREDITH VIEIRA: But do you personally feel that the Reverend Wright...

MICHELLE OBAMA: You know what I think Meredith? I think we gotta move forward. You know, this conversation doesn’t help my kids.

re: #134 wolfie

fundamentalist

Sorry, but words mean things, and "fundamentalist" is what saudi arabia is. The left has co-opted a lot of words, words such as "liberal". I consider myself a liberal, because I believe in Liberty. The left has completely bastardized the term. That doesn't mean I'm going to quit using "liberal", in fact, just the opposite- I'm taking it back, damnit!

I think we should avoid using it.

With all due respect- no. The time for limiting our vocabulary should be over. It is the left that wants us to stop using certain words, so they can define what they don't like, leaving their opponents defenseless. I'm not going to play their game.

re: #153 Maximu§

I knew the "WOT" was a Lie, when Bush let the Saudi's off the hook after 9/11.

I knew it was a lie when he kept saying INTERNATIONAL terrorism.

Our Friends the Saudis

To those who falsely defend them as friends and allies

{self delete}

re: #157 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

WAB's patented subject changer

But bringing your kids to the Trinity United Thunderdome of Raving Bigots was helping them?

re: #153 Maximu§

I knew the "WOT" was a Lie, when Bush let the Saudi's off the hook after 9/11.

Exactly. Who, after all, is bankrolling the spread of Salafist Islam all over the world? Who is financing the destruction of more moderate forms of Islam in places such as Indonesia?
But we need their oil.

re: #151 Pro-Bush Canuck

I was thinking about that during the thread of 50 ft baby bouncing. Even though chilling I'd want to take my chances at 50 ft.

50 ft baby?

That one tall ass baby.

Staaaam

re: #164 Ben Hur

50 ft baby?

That one tall ass baby.

Or just has alot of feet.

This is the first time I've been able to check in today; can anybody give me a quick rundown on what's actually important today?

re: #150 Ben Hur

Reminds me of the Old Saturday Night Live skit where they did a circumcission in a Lincoln over a brick road.

Glad my parents had a chevy when I was born.

re: #149 song_and_dance_man

Being a wild ass of a man has it's benefits. The blessing G-d gave Ishmael was not hing about being shackled to allah.

re: #38 Ben Hur

Iran Blocks Jewish Group From UN Racism Conference!

Pure irony.

re: #49 wrenchwench

Hey, Batman got a terrorist!

Oh, he surrendered in Batman, not to Batman....sorry.

Robin was unavailable for comment.

Is that Sharia Law? Cursing God = beheading?

re: #170 Roger

Being a wild ass of a man has it's benefits. The blessing G-d gave Ishmael was not hing about being shackled to allah.

Arabs are the descendants of Ishmael. It was within the Arab word that Islam rose.

Has anyone noted this?

Native Hawaiian Group Takes Over Iolani Palace

Unless you guys pester me constantly to convert I'm going to send all of you A Letter From Hell!

re: #173 bosforus

Well, in Job, Job's wife advises him to curse God and die...but I didn't think that was supposed to be taken literally by people.

Sharia is disgusting.

re: #158 Sharmuta

Okay. You have a point about the left stealing words, and maybe one of the answers is to use them despite their theft. I don't know the answer.
But to respond to a report about violence and murder and say this is to be expected because the perpetrators are fundamentalists is a stretch, no?
I am a "fundamentalist" when it comes to the Constitution. I'm not therefore a butcher.

I think my sensitivity about this particular word has a lot to do with my living in the Bible Belt, BTW, where the word has a more specific, theological meaning.

re: #175 Dianna

Has anyone noted this?

Native Hawaiian Group Takes Over Iolani Palace

It was on Fox News earlier......I think it's part of the nativist movement there that advocates ceceding from the U.S. and forming an independent country.

re: #170 Roger

But, Isaac was the legitimate son of Abraham and Ishmael through Sarah's maid. They still have that inferiority thing going after thousands of years, which probably led to creating their own version, Allah. Allah who allows you to kill anyone you wish.

re: #175 Dianna

Has anyone noted this?

Native Hawaiian Group Takes Over Iolani Palace

Effen A!

Free Hawaii!

EXPEL THE SETTLERS!

BARRY ON THE BUS OUT!

re: #178 wolfie

Okay. You have a point about the left stealing words, and maybe one of the answers is to use them despite their theft. I don't know the answer.
But to respond to a report about violence and murder and say this is to be expected because the perpetrators are fundamentalists is a stretch, no?
I am a "fundamentalist" when it comes to the Constitution. I'm not therefore a butcher.

I think my sensitivity about this particular word has a lot to do with my living in the Bible Belt, BTW, where the word has a more specific, theological meaning.

Fundamentalist does have a very specific, nonreligious, meaning, though in the cases of these creeps, I find that fanatic fits much better.

I don't mind being called a Fundamentalist, I do dislike being called a 'Fundie' as it is normally done with disdain. (and normally by people who are upset that I don't believe what they believe.)

re: #159 Ben Hur

I knew it was a lie when he kept saying INTERNATIONAL terrorism.

Listen Wolfie and BH, if Maximu§ was CiC, I could solve the mess in (1) day.

1) Position our worthless fancy-pants Navy to block all oil shipments coming out of the Gulf of Hormuz until oil comes down to $50 per/barrel. Any ship/aircraft that approaches this battle group gets wasted....no warnings.

2) Problem solved...less money for terrorism and less money to buy influence around the world.

3) Tell the world that we are willing to pay a fair price for oil, but we're not willing to sit by and watch our country melt down.

re: #6 Silhouette

Well, we have blue laws in America.

/LLL

...and when was the last time somebody got beheaded for "breaking" them, huh?

JAFLW

re: #178 wolfie

Don't you and your Pack still hunt and share the kill? You usually keep chasing your prey until you catch the weakest ones, NO?

re: #183 Maximu§

Listen Wolfie and BH, if Maximu§ was CiC, I could solve the mess in (1) day.

1) Position our worthless fancy-pants Navy to block all oil shipments coming out of the Gulf of Hormuz until oil comes down to $50 per/barrel. Any ship/aircraft that approaches this battle group gets wasted....no warnings.

2) Problem solved...less money for terrorism and less money to buy influence around the world.

3) Tell the world that we are willing to pay a fair price for oil, but we're not willing to sit by and watch our country melt down.

Please explain why reducing supply would lower prices in a world market of growing demand?

re: #183 Maximu§

Don't you think that #1 would increase the price of oil 100000X?

We just need to drill.

re: #179 eschew_obfuscation

I'm aware of them.

It bugs me that they'd invade the Palace, though, since it's one of the major repositories of Hawaiian art. They could have done a lot of damage.

re: #180 Widow'smight

But, Isaac was the legitimate son of Abraham and Ishmael through Sarah's maid. They still have that inferiority thing going after thousands of years, which probably led to creating their own version, Allah. Allah who allows you to kill anyone you wish.

If they didn't have "that inferiority thing," why would they have changed the whole story to make Ishmael, instead of Isaac, the child of sacrifice and promise? They rewrote the whole story. Why?

re: #11 Mathew1977

There's a Sweeney Todd joke in there somewhere, but I can't find it.

He'd better be "The Demon Barber of Fleet Feet!"

Good enough?

JAFLW

re: #190 wolfie

If they didn't have "that inferiority thing," why would they have changed the whole story to make Ishmael, instead of Isaac, the child of sacrifice and promise? They rewrote the whole story. Why?

Because they are like Canadians and Joos like Americans!

HAHAHAHAHAH!

re: #183 Maximu%uFFFD

Just get Congress to allow us to get some of the estimated 1 trillion Barrels or so of oil here, Open up some of the existing wells, things will take care of themselves.

re: #182 LanceKates

I proudly cling to my fundy gun loving Bible Clinging labels!
;-P

re: #188 Ben Hur

Don't you think that #1 would increase the price of oil 100000X?

We just need to drill.

Lance's Plan:

1. Kick the enviro-weenies in the butt and drill everywhere we THINK there is oil.

2. Build Nuclear Power Plants anywhere we can fit one, providing alternative power sources for homes and also for electric cars (making them viable)

3. Kick back and remember how fun it was to kick the enviro-weenies in the butt.

re: #178 wolfie

The left does use it to make a connection, as if following the fundamentals of the teachings of Jesus Christ were comparable to following the fundamentals of Islam. Or even a basketball coach who stresses the fundamentals.

Since one does not equal the other does not equal the third, etc., the word is vague at best.

But most importantly, the problem with jihadists isn't that they adhere to fundamentals, but what those fundamentals are.

Therefore, calling them Fundamentalists, albeit correct, misdirects attention from what is inspiring their behaviour.

It would be like calling Saudis dessert dwellers all the time. It would be true, but that isn't why they are beheading people.

re: #194 jcm

I proudly cling to my fundy gun loving Bible Clinging labels!
;-P

I just cling to my bible and my guns.

/

re: #198 LanceKates

I just cling to my bible and my guns.

/

Well if you wash your hands once in a while, they wouldn't be clinging to everything!

I prefer the term zealot anyway. If the LLL are going to sneer at me, let 'em sneer good. For I do have zeal in my love of Christ Jesus.

re: #174 jcm

Again islam is no blessing. Not the blessing or covenant with G-d for Ishmael.

I would suspect Ishmael would rather be remembered as the skilled self sufficient hunter:

Genesis 21:20 God was with the boy as he grew up. He lived in the desert and became an archer.

Any Ishmaelite descendants caught up in islam are enslaved; they are in bondage.

Just because they both start with I doesn't mean there is a connection.

re: #183 Maximu§

Listen Wolfie and BH, if Maximu§ was CiC, I could solve the mess in (1) day.

1) Position our worthless fancy-pants Navy to block all oil shipments coming out of the Gulf of Hormuz until oil comes down to $50 per/barrel. Any ship/aircraft that approaches this battle group gets wasted....no warnings.

2) Problem solved...less money for terrorism and less money to buy influence around the world.

3) Tell the world that we are willing to pay a fair price for oil, but we're not willing to sit by and watch our country melt down.

Maximu§ for President!

re: #124 jcm

The torture and intolerable conditions drove him to it.
/L³

He wanted to lose some of the weight he'd gained at Gitmo.

re: #30 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I have plans to visit SA in my lifetime. Of course its as part of the project to build a Cathedral and Synagogue in Mecca during the reconstruction, which will be necessary due to other plans I have.

Thinking ahead. I like that!

JAFLW

re: #199 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Well if you wash your hands once in a while, they wouldn't be clinging to everything!

Sure..... add ANOTHER thing to my list of things to do in a day.

How am I supposed to oppress people if I'm spending all my time bathing?

Ok slightly o/t this is just another reason to avoid hollyweird totally.

Hillary Duff muffs it

Minister uses NASA forecasting to study signals of Jesus' return
2015? We won't have to wait long.

HATAY - A Saudi Arabian court on Thursday ratified the conviction of Turkish barber Sabri Bogday, who was sentenced to beheading in Saudi Arabia on charges of “cursing the name of God.”

Bogday has been in jail for 13 months in Saudi Arabia after a quarrel with a neighbor near his barber shop. Bogday was accused of cursing the name of God.

He's getting off easy, it could be much worse.

re: #127 opnion

Too bad that there can't be a redo.

Good thing there is one for us.
I Cor 5:17

re: #197 Silhouette

It would be like calling Saudis dessert dwellers all the time. It would be true, but that isn't why they are beheading people.

Yummmmmm! I want to be a dessert dweller

re: #162 wolfie

But we need their oil.

Maybe we should offer them two ideas, help stop the spread of terrorism or we take their oil and offer them ten dollars per barrel for it. After all Americans and Brits are the ones who developed the Middle East oil industry.

re: #197 Silhouette

The left does use it to make a connection, as if following the fundamentals of the teachings of Jesus Christ were comparable to following the fundamentals of Islam. Or even a basketball coach who stresses the fundamentals.

Since one does not equal the other does not equal the third, etc., the word is vague at best.

But most importantly, the problem with jihadists isn't that they adhere to fundamentals, but what those fundamentals are.

Therefore, calling them Fundamentalists, albeit correct, misdirects attention from what is inspiring their behaviour.

It would be like calling Saudis dessert dwellers all the time. It would be true, but that isn't why they are beheading people.

It's also a method to morally equate 'funadmentalist' jihadi ideology with 'fundamentalist' Christian/Jewish ideology......"See, Christians are just as bad as Jihadis" (because they're both fundamentalists....with a dose of 'unsophisticated rube' thrown in for good measure).

.....but then, you knew all that ;-)

re: #187 LanceKates

Its called "gunboat" diplomacy...LK.

I see Arab states trying to destroy America from all different directions...Oil.....Terrorism.....buying our elected leaders with the extra money from oil sales.....buying companies that are tied into our national security etc etc etc.

Its a form of warfare and they are winning.....we are losing!

re: #207 Killgore Trout

Minister uses NASA forecasting to study signals of Jesus' return
2015? We won't have to wait long.

Doesn't he know that Mayans have already said that the world will end in 2012?

Besides, my calculations say 2018.

re: #182 LanceKates

Fundamentalist does have a very specific, nonreligious, meaning, though in the cases of these creeps, I find that fanatic fits much better.

I don't mind being called a Fundamentalist, I do dislike being called a 'Fundie' as it is normally done with disdain. (and normally by people who are upset that I don't believe what they believe.)

Yes. I think that's why I was being a little sensitive. The word...or some cheap version of it....is used to bash Protestants who don't follow the PC line. As someone who works in academe, I am used to hearing the "elites" put down the bitter, clingy people of this area with the term. I'd like to slap them silly, but I just keep my mouth shut. (I'm a part-timer and don't have tenure.)

re: #210 so.cal.swede

Arrrghhh! And I know that one. "Two esses because one wants two desserts."

Membership in the RoP has its privileges...?

re: #202 right wing zephyr

Maximu§ for President!

The only problem with that is that our worthless do nothing legislators want to reduce the size of our NAVY from 12 carrier groups down to 10!

re: #203 cygnus

He wanted to lose some of the weight he'd gained at Gitmo.

Weight Blasters!

re: #112 opnion

Wait,wait! Daisy are you telling me that the "Mother Ship", is not for real?
Or how about the "white Devil" existing because ol a lab experiment gone bad?
Cause you know, Reverend Wright really likes Farrakhan.

Boy oh boy, there's nothing like reality to screw up a profitable delusion.

re: #212 eschew_obfuscation

Do YOU have a degree in electrical engineering? I don't think so. Upon what basis do you make those accurate and insightful remarks?

Hmm?

Before the Turk can be executed, the King, Abdullah must confirm the the sentence. This deal may be a a way of embarrassing the the King before the court of world opinion while serving the interests of an Al Quaida leaning Ulema which wishes to place the King between a rock and a hard place. Similar situations are taking place with increasing frequency in the Magic Kingdom as the struggle between the dark ages and modernity plays itself out against the conflicting positions of Islamism and more progressive positions.

Wonder how long it would take the Turkish army to reach Riyadh?

re: #190 wolfie

The hatred towards Jewish folks is based mostly in envy (I believe). The Whole "Chosen People" thing really gets them, as does the ability of this small group of people to survive and thrive in the midst of countless enemies.
My other belief is that the Arabs really don't give a rat's ass about the Country of Israel other than driving out the Jewish Folks from it to negate the Covenant God Made with Abraham when he walked between the cut animals after putting Abraham to sleep.
Again, the inferiority complex. They could have the blessing of the real God in the same way Christians have it.

I believe that God will protect Israel and keep that Covenant.

re: #80 Daisy

"Diversity training" is about avoiding liability. Beyond that, it's a farce, and everyone knows it. Well, everyone but overly-sensitive credulous types who knock on doors for Obama.

I haven't read anything by D'Souza. I'm reading Londonistan. Next up is The Great Deception by Booker and North. After that, some feckin books on 18th century Europe. People recommend things to me all the time. I just finished Brideshead Revisited, which is one of those books people sensibly put off until middle age.

re: #178 wolfie

There are political fundamentalists, too. Look at the left- they are the epitome of political fundamentalists with their marxism, and political correctness.

I think the reason you feel the word is akin to a slur is because with most things, being a fundamentalist is not necessarily a good thing. I find it very close minded, but that is what fundamentalism is by it's very definition- strict adherence to a set of beliefs. So, I don't mean to offend you, but I'm going to continue to use the word as I see fit.

re: #223 Son of the Black Dog

Wonder how long it would take the Turkish army to reach Riyadh?

Well they would have to come down thru Iraq. And we are sitting there. The turks didn't let the 4th ID come into Iraq from the North in 03. I say let em go the long way!

re: #225 godfrey

I just finished Brideshead Revisited

I prefer the pr0n version, Maidenhead Removed.

re: #213 Maximu§

Its called "gunboat" diplomacy...LK.

I see Arab states trying to destroy America from all different directions...Oil.....Terrorism.....buyin g our elected leaders with the extra money from oil sales.....buying companies that are tied into our national security etc etc etc.

Its a form of warfare and they are winning.....we are losing!

So, explain again, since oil prices are based on supply and demand driving up or lowering futures, why halting supply would lower cost in an area of growing demand?

I understand the idea of threats.... but stopping supply to lower price when it comes to oil will work as ineffectively as slaughtering pigs by the thousands in the Great Depression.

All it did then was rise prices so people who could BARELY afford it now couldn't afford it at all.

It would do the same to oil.

We need to increase supply, not lower it. THAT is how you run OPEC out of business. Drill Drill Drill.

re: #186 Widow'smight

Don't you and your Pack still hunt and share the kill? You usually keep chasing your prey until you catch the weakest ones, NO?

Absolutely! :D
Which is why we eat so many PB&J sandwiches !
Those jars are sitting ducks!

Okay, show of hands:

Who here be ridin' dirty?

re: #207 Killgore Trout

Hell, what's the point? I could die tomorrow. Same thing, for me.

re: #192 Ben Hur

Because they are like Canadians and Joos like Americans!

HAHAHAHAHAH!

You are very naughty!

re: #215 wolfie

Yes. I think that's why I was being a little sensitive. The word...or some cheap version of it....is used to bash Protestants who don't follow the PC line. As someone who works in academe, I am used to hearing the "elites" put down the bitter, clingy people of this area with the term. I'd like to slap them silly, but I just keep my mouth shut. (I'm a part-timer and don't have tenure.)

Obama is more of a 'fundie' than you or I might be.

Remind them of that next time they're on a rant.

Or, what Rush suggested long ago: Point and laugh. Loudly.

Unless you want to keep your job. If you want to keep your job, here's the principle I use:

"I'm fat, but they're shallow and snobbish. I can lose weight, but they'll always be shallow and snobbish."

re: #137 Squirrelguy

There. Fixed.

May the fleas ticks of a thousand camels infest the jockstraps of the UN.

Even better.

Off to a business lunch.

I hope the investment guy says something reassuring.

re: #30 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I have plans to visit SA in my lifetime. Of course its as part of the project to build a Cathedral and Synagogue in Mecca during the reconstruction, which will be necessary due to other plans I have.

Is that before or after your scrape away the Trinitite?

re: #218 Nevergiveup

The only problem with that is that our worthless do nothing legislators want to reduce the size of our NAVY from 12 carrier groups down to 10!

That's still plenty to take on the Moslems.

re: #144 Occasional Reader

Just a little off the top, please.

"Do you have a styptic pencil for that?"

re: #233 godfrey

Don't we all die when JC shows up?

re: #197 Silhouette

You said it so much better than I did!

re: #221 LanceKates

Do YOU have a degree in electrical engineering? I don't think so. Upon what basis do you make those accurate and insightful remarks?

Hmm?

I ...... have degrees in "Fundamentalism and the Liberal Mind" and "Fuzzy Math" from Brother Love's Travelling Salvation Show!.......also coloquially referred to as "Fundy Fuzzy Minds"

....so just SHUT UP!

re: #237 Dianna

Off to a business lunch.

Is it a ridin' dirty business lunch?

See, I don't even know what the hell that means, but I'm asking anyway.

re: #228 Occasional Reader

lol

How about Groomshead Reexamined? My favorite is the bowdlerized Saudi Arabian translation, Brideshead Regibbeted.

re: #206 bolivar

Ok slightly o/t this is just another reason to avoid hollyweird totally.

Hillary Duff muffs it

Over on Libertas, they've posted an article by a liberal film reviewer - Has any war ever inspired so many bad movies as the Iraq War?

re: #244 Occasional Reader

Just don't go puttin' funny stuff in my Martini.

re: #244 Occasional Reader

It better not be!

eeep!

Read you later.

re: #228 Occasional Reader

I prefer the pr0n version, Maidenhead Removed.

Hey, that was the name of Iron Maiden's '85 World Tour!

re: #247 godfrey

Just don't go puttin' funny stuff in my Martini.

1 Martini, 2 Martini, 3 Martini, 4! 5 martini, 6 martini, 7 martini, Floor!

re: #243 eschew_obfuscation

I ...... have degrees in "Fundamentalism and the Liberal Mind" and "Fuzzy Math" from Brother Love's Travelling Salvation Show!.......also coloquially referred to as "Fundy Fuzzy Minds"

....so just SHUT UP!

Ok, you win. BUT... I am only saying that because I am a HUGE Neil Diamond fan and plan on seeing him in concert in October.

OT--joke

One day God was looking down at Earth and saw all of the rascally
behavior going on.

So He called one of His angels and sent the angel to Earth for a time.
When he returned, he told God, "Yes, it is bad on Earth; 95% are
misbehaving and only 5% are not."

God thought for a moment and said, "Maybe I had better send down a
second angel to get another opinion." So God called another angel and
sent
him to Earth for a time.

When the angel returned, he went to God and said, "Yes, it's true. The
Earth is in decline; 95% are misbehaving, but 5% are being good."

God was not pleased. So He decided to e-mail the 5% that were good,
because he wanted to encourage them, and give them a little something to
help them keep going.

Do you know what the e-mail said?

Okay, I was just wondering, because I didn't get one either.

re: #232 Occasional Reader

If I secretly desire to whup Michelle Obama's butt with a car antennae odes that count?

re: #229 LanceKates

So, explain again, since oil prices are based on supply and demand driving up or lowering futures, why halting supply would lower cost in an area of growing demand?

I understand the idea of threats.... but stopping supply to lower price when it comes to oil will work as ineffectively as slaughtering pigs by the thousands in the Great Depression.

All it did then was rise prices so people who could BARELY afford it now couldn't afford it at all.

It would do the same to oil.

We need to increase supply, not lower it. THAT is how you run OPEC out of business. Drill Drill Drill.

How long do you think it would take for Arab's to cave in if we blocked they're oil shipments? They would fold like a Chinese-made lawnchair.....and you know it.

They already HATE us, so what the F**K do we have to lose?

re: #249 song_and_dance_man

What ever happened to 2525

Zager & Evans broke up.....

re: #94 Ojoe

IMHO we are watching the denouement of the Democratic Party.

We can hope, can't we? Only problem is what damage will they do before circling the drain for the last time...

JAFLW

re: #224 Widow'smight

Spot on!

re: #254 Endangered in MASS

If I secretly desire to whup Michelle Obama's butt with a car antennae odes that count?

I don't know, since I'm not at all sure what ridin' dirty means.

re: #185 song_and_dance_man

Genesis 25:9 His [Abraham's] sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah near Mamre, in the field of Ephron son of Zohar the Hittite, 10 the field Abraham had bought from the Hittites.

I doubt they were in constant fisticuffs but probably talked remembrance of their father. We would need to look further at the Hebrew to fully grasp the meaning of the Scriptures.

re: #251 right wing zephyr

lol - Put me down at 1-martini, 2-martini, 3-martini, floor.

re: #198 LanceKates

I just cling to my bible and my guns.

/

Static cling?

re: #225 godfrey

"I just finished Brideshead Revisited, which is one of those books people sensibly put off until middle age."

Brideshead R. is not too far down in the pile next to my bed! As far as 'diversity training' - yes, in the work-place it's about deferring/avoiding liability - plus it's a seriously profitable business venture for the 'diversity' trainers (along the lines of selling 'indulgences') and in the academic sphere it's about preparing people to enter the really nutty work-place. IMO, DeSouza is top-drawer in his logical approach to the subject.

re: #259 Occasional Reader

I don't know, since I'm not at all sure what ridin' dirty means.

I'll make a formal request that no one answer this question with a link. :)

re: #261 godfrey

lol - Put me down at 1-martini, 2-martini, 3-martini, floor.

As we all know, martinis are like b00bs; one isn't enough, three are too many.

re: #259 Occasional Reader

I don't either. Not sure I want to.

re: #226 Sharmuta

Okay! And I won't take offense when you use it!

re: #264 bosforus

I'll make a formal request that no one answer this question with a link. :)

I assume it has to do with failure to shower prior to participating in equestrian events.