What a relief!

oh i know were ya been!

She has bug eyes.

Torture!

re: #1 JamesTKirk

(Yet another thing I never thought I'd be saying about a Hillary thread.)

I didn't see any of the interview in question - transcripts, summaries, or YouTubage?

The sound of her voice makes me ill.
What populist nanny state drivel is she shoveling tonight?

re: #3 DesertSage

She has bug eyes.

She's the bug in the human suit in Men in Black.

Hill--you just can't hide those lyin' eyes..

Hillary wants to withdraw from Iraq and let the Iraqi Arabs duke it out with the Iranian Persians in a nuclear theatre!
DRINK!

NOOO torsure the bad guys!

I saw the first half, that was enough for me.

NOOOOOOO that laugh again!

No cable. Is there a feed?

Thanx Charles, really didn't feel like arguing evolution tonight! OT, my brother had surgery to his knee this morning and is doing very well, he even walked me to the door when I was leaving! Amazing....

Whoa! Not cracking down on sanctuary cities. You mean, not enforce our laws?

will we get more Hillary screen shots?

why does O'Reilly allow Hillary to determine that waterboarding is torture?

re: #15 ModerateWolverine

Whoa! Not cracking down on sanctuary cities. You mean, not enforce our laws?

Laws are sooo arbitrary. They adversely impact criminals.

re: #16 bosforus

will we get more Hillary screen shots?

I sure hope not....

re: #14 LoFlyer

Thanx Charles, really didn't feel like arguing evolution tonight! OT, my brother had surgery to his knee this morning and is doing very well, he even walked me to the door when I was leaving! Amazing....

Who's arguing evolution? I thought we settled that one.

re: #17 arielle

why does O'Reilly allow Hillary to determine that waterboarding is torture?

Because it is....

I love how she affects to be blasé and 'knowing.'

Everything is a show to these people.

re: #15 ModerateWolverine

Whoa! Not cracking down on sanctuary cities. You mean, not enforce our laws?

There is a commercial there, if need be.

I don't remember her having eyes like that when Bill was president.

Is Bill tossing out me me me it's all about me soft balls?
Bill is so self absorbed.

I don't hear any stuttering...at least that.

Hillary really wants the Hispanic vote.

That's it?

re: #21 LoFlyer

Taking out someone's eye is torture. Cutting off genitalia is torture. Waterboarding is aggressive, but not torture.

Senator McCain next week. Think Senator O will go on Mr. O's show?

re: #20 Charles

Who's arguing evolution? I thought we settled that one.

Several are or were. I don't feel comfortable arguing evolution versus "Adam and Eve" with folks that I highly respect....

What are they talking about?

I, Sasquatch, have no tv in back country.

re: #20 Charles

Who's arguing evolution? I thought we settled that one.

Right!
It's turtles all the way down!

Yep, that was it. With last night, it looks like less than 15 minutes total.

I never thought I'd say this, but she comes off as credible.

Compared to Glowbama, that is.

Hillary needs Obama on the ticket with her on her climb to the white house. Just keep that in mind.

re: #29 arielle

Taking out someone's eye is torture. Cutting off genitalia is torture. Waterboarding is aggressive, but not torture.

Simulated drowning is torture. Try it sometime and tell me what you think of it.....

re: #30 Catttt

Senator McCain next week. Think Senator O will go on Mr. O's show?

Nah, he's probably already committed to a meeting with Gadaffi

re: #15 ModerateWolverine

If you are the president you have sworn an oath to enforce the laws.

re: #30 Catttt

Senator McCain next week. Think Senator O will go on Mr. O's show?

NO way!

is she aglow w/ arrogance. beaming from osama's misfortune. i would never pick her as a friend. i think she's basically unlikable. oh, i agree w/ most of america.

re: #34 Charles

Yep, that was it. With last night, it looks like less than 15 minutes total.

They're milking it. Even Greta Van Whatzerface was airing clips last night.

They play this as if it's some journalistic scoop.

Gosh golly gee, an interview with a politician!

re: #36 FrogMarch

Hillary needs Obama on the ticket with her on her climb to the white house descent into a well deserved obscurity. Just keep that in mind.

re: #37 LoFlyer

I'm not a prime suspect in a nuclear terrorist plot, so that probably won't happen...but maybe you're right, maybe we should ask them politely and we'll learn about their plans.

Hilliary was smiling so hard I thought the strings holding her face up were going to break.

re: #43 Ojoe

It will never happen, two alpha males on the same ticket will never work....

re: #42 JammieWearingFool

They're milking it. Even Greta Van Whatzerface was airing clips last night.

They play this as if it's some journalistic scoop.

Gosh golly gee, an interview with a politician!

How do you know when a politician is lying? His/her lips are moving.

I am so not pleased with the choices we have in November.

Rock, meet Hard Place.

Every Navy SEAL undergoes waterboarding.

re: #40 beachkatie

NO way!

It will marginalize Obama somewhat if he doesn't. Hopefully he'll decline.

I'd like to hear her say "I will be a really mean bitch to our enemies."

re: #40 beachkatie

NO way!

Weet!

Anybody know of any streams?

re: #46 LoFlyer

And what a fight there will be in Denver.

"The thin air will make it easier to throw chairs"

— some poster here, I forget who.

re: #37 LoFlyer

Simulated drowning is torture. Try it sometime and tell me what you think of it.....

What's the fundamental problem with torture, assuming that it is applied appropriately and for just purposes? I'm subjected to torture every day by the MSM, moonbats, L3, etc. and it has made me a stronger and better person.

re: #47 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

How do you know when a politician is lying? His/her lips are moving.

I am so not pleased with the choices we have in November.

Rock, meet Hard Place.

I hear you. McCain still gets my tepid support. The other two are a joke.

re: #52 Eri

Anybody know of any streams?

ii know where a real pretty one is. w/ a little water fall and you can swim there in the spring.

re: #51 DesertSage

Weet!

Not dream time yet!

re: #39 Ojoe

If you are the president you have sworn an oath to enforce the laws.

That depends on what your definition of the word HAVE is.

I loved her answer to the question of where the Taliban is headquartered:

"Well, where do you think it is?"

Translation: I don't know shit. Please cover my fat ass.

With the amount of flatulence expelled during that BS session, the global temp went up 1/2 degree!

Interview on the web

re: #62 Ojoe

Sorry.

re: #19 LoFlyer

Whenever I'm typing up letters to a friend of mine I make sure include a bad picture of her face as a watermark. Maybe those screenshots can come in handy after all.

re: #63 song_and_dance_man

Not watching it. Let me know if Cackle gives the other Bill a pant suit lap dance.

Brain bleach PLEASE!

re: #60 BGOH

It has many headquarters, every one of those books with the one word title starting with K.

Sorry to go OT so soon and I hope you all forgive me. To all my Lizard friends, please send prayers (or just good thoughts) up for my family and I. My father, a wonderful strong man passed away last night. He was a Korean war hero w/lots of medals but most of all he was a hero to so many people in our family. You guys would have LOVED him as he was a ball busting exrodinaire. I'll be off the threads for awhile as I will be going to Miami to lay him to rest.
Thanks for any kind thoughts or prayers.

re: #63 song_and_dance_man

"..a pant suit lap dance."

I'm not sure I can say this but one of my male relatives said that "Hillary is where hard-ons go to die".

re: #44 arielle

I'm not a prime suspect in a nuclear terrorist plot, so that probably won't happen...but maybe you're right, maybe we should ask them politely and we'll learn about their plans.

Maybe we should just call it what it is, and be done with it. However the US has never condoned or supported torture in the past, our country is better than that. Times have changed, we now have US lawyers volunteering to legally defend terrorists against justice. 911 opened our eyes to the danger but torture goes against everything good about America. I don't like it and think it is extremely poor policy.

re: #68 VegasRick

You have them

re: #69 kay1212

"..a pant suit lap dance."

I'm not sure I can say this but one of my male relatives said that "Hillary is where hard-ons go to die".

So that's how they cure the erections that last longer than 4 hours.....

re: #68 VegasRick

Rick, my condolences. Of course I never met him, but given your description I feel we are a bit poorer without him.

Missed it. In time for Lanny Davis. Ugh.

re: #68 VegasRick

Sorry to go OT so soon and I hope you all forgive me. To all my Lizard friends, please send prayers (or just good thoughts) up for my family and I. My father, a wonderful strong man passed away last night. He was a Korean war hero w/lots of medals but most of all he was a hero to so many people in our family. You guys would have LOVED him as he was a ball busting exrodinaire. I'll be off the threads for awhile as I will be going to Miami to lay him to rest.
Thanks for any kind thoughts or prayers.

God be with you, Rick. I'll be praying for you and your family.

re: #68 VegasRick

Sorry to go OT so soon and I hope you all forgive me. To all my Lizard friends, please send prayers (or just good thoughts) up for my family and I. My father, a wonderful strong man passed away last night. He was a Korean war hero w/lots of medals but most of all he was a hero to so many people in our family. You guys would have LOVED him as he was a ball busting exrodinaire. I'll be off the threads for awhile as I will be going to Miami to lay him to rest.
Thanks for any kind thoughts or prayers.

I'm sorry for your lost VagasRick!My prays are with you and your family!

re: #68 VegasRick

sorry for your loss...prayers for you and yours

Is making a Muslim male put women's underpants on his head torture?

re: #70 LoFlyer

IMHO it does not have to be policy & would be used with a field decision if really necessary anyway.

re: #68 VegasRick

prayers for you and your family

re: #37 LoFlyer

So, what are you going to do? "Ask what is your plan"

The beast is not idealogically driven? Lanny Davis is a boil on the butt of humanity!

re: #68 VegasRick

God bless you and your family.

re: #71 Ojoe

re: #73 OldLineTexan

re: #75 BGOH

re: #76 beachkatie

re: #77 hayseed

Thank you so much.

re: #43 Ojoe

Hillary needs Obama on the ticket with her on her climb to the white house descent into a well deserved obscurity. Just keep that in mind.

That would be preferred.

re: #56 nyc redneck

ii know where a real pretty one is. w/ a little water fall and you can swim there in the spring.

Hahaha. Please tell me. It sounds so wonderful!

re: #81 usmc1968

How are you

re: #68 VegasRick

{VegasRick} so sorry for your loss. i can tell from your words your dad was a wonderful person. all good thoughts and prayers for you, friend.

So - when do we break out the "Hillary for Socialist Schoolmarm" bumper stickers?

re: #80 bosforus

re: #83 Crimsonfisted

Thank you. LGF really is a wonderful place.

She is the most dishonest politician I have ever come to know

re: #68 VegasRick

Sorry for your loss, Rick.

BBL

Home to kids

she wants to take on OPEC.lol

Maybe we can get Mandela and Carter to select Hillary and Barack as "Elders" so that we can go back to ignoring them.

Okay slap me-she handled herself well and compared to McCain flip a coin IMO. If it's between Hillary and McCain I am not voting for President since I don't care who wins. I will vote for McCain if Obama is the candidate as he is clearly a Marxist.

re: #70 LoFlyer

I do call it what it is, and it has been called effective. It is sad that there are lawyers out there who would sooner run to defend some known terrorist because it gives them street cred with their leftist lawyer friends. That doesn't mean that waterboarding is torture.

Again: Being gang raped = torture. Being waterboarding does not equal being gang raped or anything close to what is actually torture.

re: #68 VegasRick

I am sorry to hear about your loss... Good thoughts on the way

re: #94 hayseed

she wishes

re: #54 Bubbaman

What's the fundamental problem with torture, assuming that it is applied appropriately and for just purposes? I'm subjected to torture every day by the MSM, moonbats, L3, etc. and it has made me a stronger and better person.

First of all physical pain to coerce confession or information is just plain wrong. Yes, if I was Jack Bauer trying to save LA from nuclear terrorism in 24, I would be the first pulling teeth with pliars trying to save LA. It should never be official policy of our great nation though. What happens if a mistake in identification is made and it is you being tortured?

re: #68 VegasRick

I'm sorry for your loss. My thoughts are with you and your family during this difficult time.

re: #91 winston06

She is the most dishonest politician I have ever come to know

Ya think? Cattle trading from the Wall St Journal? Ha.

re: #96 CaddyMan

you should vote for McPain if you care about the future of your country

re: #88 nyc redneck

re: #92 Eri

re: #98 winston06

re: #101 NGrove

Thank you.

re: #68 VegasRick

Sorry for your loss. May your dad be at peace.

re: #96 CaddyMan

Okay slap me-she handled herself well and compared to McCain flip a coin IMO. If it's between Hillary and McCain I am not voting for President since I don't care who wins. I will vote for McCain if Obama is the candidate as he is clearly a Marxist.

You got that right!

re: #86 Eri

Hahaha. Please tell me. It sounds so wonderful!

way up in the saw tooth mts. in idaho. just lovely, wild flowers and clover every where. i'd have to take you because it's quite an uncharted hike.

re: #104 VegasRick

let us know if u need any help

re: #97 arielle

I do call it what it is, and it has been called effective. It is sad that there are lawyers out there who would sooner run to defend some known terrorist because it gives them street cred with their leftist lawyer friends. That doesn't mean that waterboarding is torture.

Again: Being gang raped = torture. Being waterboarding does not equal being gang raped or anything close to what is actually torture.

None of the terrorists have been ganged raped, but that is an interesting point. If we simulated gang rape on the suspects, would that be torture?

re: #105 FrogMarch

Sorry for your loss. May your dad be at peace.

Thank you. I think he is, I am gonna run now and head to the airport.
The lizardnations thoughts and prayers will be with me. Thank you all.

VegasRick

Prayers going up as I type this. Peace and comfort to you and your family.

re: #68 VegasRick

Very sorry to hear it. Prayers for you and your family.

Grieve, and celebrate his life and memory.

re: #87 Ojoe

You know what they say! "I've been better but it cost more" What a crock of shit. This is costing me more than I have, thanks for asking.

re: #68 VegasRick

Very sorry to hear that. Condolences and prayers to you and your family.

re: #111 imtoast

re: #112 Sarge1984

Thank you. Now I am really going.

re: #68 VegasRick

Our sympathy VagasR, our prayers are with you and your family....

re: #68 VegasRick

Sorry to go OT so soon and I hope you all forgive me. To all my Lizard friends, please send prayers (or just good thoughts) up for my family and I. My father, a wonderful strong man passed away last night. He was a Korean war hero w/lots of medals but most of all he was a hero to so many people in our family. You guys would have LOVED him as he was a ball busting exrodinaire. I'll be off the threads for awhile as I will be going to Miami to lay him to rest.
Thanks for any kind thoughts or prayers.

Oh, VegasRick.... so sorry to hear of your loss! God bless and prayers for you and yours.

re: #115 VegasRick

have a good evening

re: #46 LoFlyer

It will never happen, two alpha males on the same ticket will never work....

That's not right - there is just one alpha - Senator O is a beta.

Keep them in the shadows! They are here ILLEGALLY! If they were not here, then they wouldn't be involved in crimes they are afraid to report! If they run a red light, go thru a stop sign, rob a store, get caught drunken driving and are arrested and have no papers- DEPORT THEM! Sanctuary cities do not report them and clinton didn't get that- at the end she seemed to and started to agree- if you commit a crime- do time and get deported. She is putting peoples lives in danger! Employers should be busted- they should not be able to get rentals or mortages- their kids should not be educated on my dime taking services away from my kids because English as a second language is draining funds- they are wiping out hospitals with bad debt and bringing in diseases- this is insane! Look at how Mexico and other countries treat illegals- positively medieval! Because of loony libs like her- our country is going down the tubes!

re: #68 VegasRick
My deepest sympathies to you and yours.

re: #120 LEGION

Keep them in the shadows! They are here ILLEGALLY! If they were not here, then they wouldn't be involved in crimes they are afraid to report! If they run a red light, go thru a stop sign, rob a store, get caught drunken driving and are arrested and have no papers- DEPORT THEM! Sanctuary cities do not report them and clinton didn't get that- at the end she seemed to and started to agree- if you commit a crime- do time and get deported. She is putting peoples lives in danger! Employers should be busted- they should not be able to get rentals or mortages- their kids should not be educated on my dime taking services away from my kids because English as a second language is draining funds- they are wiping out hospitals with bad debt and bringing in diseases- this is insane! Look at how Mexico and other countries treat illegals- positively medieval! Because of loony libs like her- our country is going down the tubes!

i agree. she, however does not. she sees them as her new voters when she fast tracks them to their drivers licenses.

re: #122 nyc redneck

Illegals and dead people- the demorat base. Yeah she was nailed on that illegal licensing controversy during the debates- flipping and flopping on that.

#68 VegasRick

My condolences on your patriotic/heroic father. May I suggest the Military service play taps at the internment. They did for my father in '03 and the effect was very solemn and impressive, with the flag presentation, as well.

We need to remember and honor them for their heroic contributions not only because they earned the recognition, but because it also sets precedence for the younger folks about what proper love of country is all about in this day of revisionist history run amuck.

# 68 VegasRick

Sincere condolences and heartfelt prayers.

Rush Limbaugh Was great today! I love listing to the Marine corp playing THE BATTLE OF The of the REPUBLIC ! HE still doing the Operation chaos For N.C.

H & C on now- Hillary again with no more military solutions in Iraq- BULL- they can stop Iran from sending in operatives and munitions to kill Iraqis and our troops! Hey, we are still in Bosnia, Kuwait, Korea, Germany & Japan! Another 100 years sounds good to me!

re: #127 LEGION

H & C on now- Hillary again with no more military solutions in Iraq- BULL- they can stop Iran from sending in operatives and munitions to kill Iraqis and our troops! Hey, we are still in Bosnia, Kuwait, Korea, Germany & Japan! Another 100 years sounds good to me!

I guess she can't say much because of the anti war crowd in her party!

re: #126 beachkatie

Rush Limbaugh Was great today! I love listing to the Marine corp playing THE BATTLE HYMN OF THE REPUBLIC ! He still doing the Operation Chaos For N.C.

(fixed) Marc Levin does it all the time too- It's Great! Hill might pull out NC! How about wacky Roseanne Barr calling for riots in Denver- whatta nut.

Looks like we are the only ones left here BeachKatie! Thread died! Back to Hannity and Colmes----- :-)

re: #129 LEGION

(fixed) Marc Levin does it all the time too- It's Great! Hill might pull out NC! How about wacky Roseanne Barr calling for riots in Denver- whatta nut.

Hillary will not pull out of here , She was great on Reilly tonight! She has a chance here... I'm Republican Operative!

re: #131 beachkatie

Hillary will not pull out of here , She was great on Reilly tonight! She has a chance here... I'm Republican Operative!

Operation Chaos..

re: #100 LoFlyer

Shit Happens

Speaking as one who lived through Clinton's interminable eight years of presidency, I fear for our country if this woman gets elected.

However, I have to hand it to her - she outdid herself in this interview. Don't know how she did it - drugs, make-up, little whiff of nitrous oxide, or whatever - but I believe she may have just pulled herself out of the frying pan. Even the republican talking points were begrudgingly impressed. What she may have done here is culled some fence-sitters who are unhappy with Obama.

The timing of this interview was good. Too good, in fact. Does anyone else wonder about this? Wright. Obama on defensive. Press Club speech by Wright. More Obama on defensive. Then Hillary's interview with O'Reilly.

I don't know about you, but things have never fallen into place in my life or anyone else's I know like it has for Hillary.

Could this possibly be a sneak peek into the so-called Clinton machine?

P.S. I am not a conspiracy theorist - something just doesn't pass the smell test with the progression of events here.

re: #126 beachkatie

Rush Limbaugh Was great today! I love listing to the Marine corp playing THE BATTLE OF The of the REPUBLIC ! HE still doing the Operation chaos For N.C.

i so love it too. i heard them singing the battle hymn of the republic for the pope when he was at the white house. i was driving down the road listening to rush and just pulled over, turned up the radio way up and proceeded to cry like a baby. it was so moving. so powerful. it truly is a battle hymn. and all those beautiful masculine strong voices. i was comforted and inspired. we are a great nation.

obama will be much weaker in the general election lately he looks like a fish out of water.

re: #135 nyc redneck

i so love it too. i heard them singing the battle hymn of the republic for the pope when he was at the white house. i was driving down the road listening to rush and just pulled over, turned up the radio way up and proceeded to cry like a baby. it was so moving. so powerful. it truly is a battle hymn. and all those beautiful masculine strong voices. i was comforted and inspired. we are a great nation.

Amen Nyc redneck! { NYC REDNECK}

re: #138 taxfreekiller

#134

Take a look at amazon . com . Lt. for life John F. Kerry's autolieofhimself, on one side of the dust cover, a glowing word or two on the wonderful fake Lt. by Ted Kennedy,

on the other dust cover side,

Words of praise by Bill O'Riley of the well timed interview tonight.

TWO PARTY EVIL MONEY CULT, NOT JUST THE CLINTON'S ANY MORE.

Boy the harriers are flying low over the house tonight!

She was impressive if you are a Liberal who cannot "Nuance" the sheer stupidity behind her remarks. Not intended to you Lady..
I too, am enjoying all of the success of Operation Chaos.
They all are deeply flawed, let's pray for the lesser of 3 evils.

#129 LEGION : "How about wacky Roseanne Barr calling for riots in Denver- whatta nut."

And here's how it starts:

Opening shot of Demo Convention in Denver of wacky Roseanne Barr giving her rendition of the National Anthem, pausing to spit on a burning American flag on the floor...

Cut to: Honorees box containing Jimma, Al Assad, Chavez, Moore, Mark Cuban, assorted Hollyweird cast - standing while applauding her.

Cut to: Couric/Donaldson: Wow! What an opening Sam, this will be the shinning moment for the Dems this year, right? Katie, your stealing my thunder, you perky little thang.

Cut to Bret Hume: holding lowered head in hands, "Lord help the American people, and give me the strength to get thru this!"

Cut to: carbques and beaucoup signage w/ code pink, La Raza, (you name 'um) partying outside the hall on the street in the cordened off official Demo "express yourself" zone............

Go to: commercial, followed by Dean Scream to open up coverage!

And that's just the opening. What a gig for ratings!

(get ya popcorn & barf bags ready, folks)

re: #132 beachkatie

How could you not want to drive a stake through the heart of the Clinton Crime Machine? Rush has always had a tin ear when it comes to the Clintons. He is so wrong on this that he just might get the witch elected. Then she'll either get the Fairness doctrine instituted or get someone to plant an oxy or two on Rush and he'll be in a Federal Pen. My wife and I changed our registration to unafiliated so that we could counter the foolish Operation Chaos in NC. Don't forget what the Hildabeast said-Be careful what you wish for, Rush!

I think Republicans should be very afraid at what they saw on O'Reilly the past two nights. Why? Because Jon McCain = Bob Dole Redux, at least so far. A old senator who is just happy to be nominated, and without the real fire in the belly to do what is necessary to win. Hillary does. And the mentally lazy will vote Obama no matter what if he is their nominee.

This is based in some part on McCain's nonsensical comments about Rev. Wright essentially being a non-issue. Does McCain really believe that African-Americans will vote for him if Obama doesn't get the nod? He is already being portrayed as a crazed war-mongerer who wants a 100 year war.

He better get a solid and much younger running mate, and his staff better get wise to real world politics pronto.

Funny thing is that given Obama's issues, Mitt will not have been so bad a candidate as concerns (whether valid or not) about the impact/influence of his religion as President would have been balanced out by concerns over Obama's 20 yr. pastor and selection of church.

#68- VegasRick

Condolences to you and your family over the loss of your father.

re: #68 VegasRick

Sorry to go OT so soon and I hope you all forgive me. To all my Lizard friends, please send prayers (or just good thoughts) up for my family and I. My father, a wonderful strong man passed away last night. He was a Korean war hero w/lots of medals but most of all he was a hero to so many people in our family. You guys would have LOVED him as he was a ball busting exrodinaire. I'll be off the threads for awhile as I will be going to Miami to lay him to rest.
Thanks for any kind thoughts or prayers.

Sorry to hear about your loss VegasRick. You are in my thoughts and prayers. When my Dad passed away (2005), I focused I on the years we had together, how fortunate I was to have him in my life, and how much I owed him for becoming the man I am. Hope this helps.

re: #70 LoFlyer

Maybe we should just call it what it is, and be done with it. However the US has never condoned or supported torture in the past, our country is better than that. Times have changed, we now have US lawyers volunteering to legally defend terrorists against justice. 911 opened our eyes to the danger but torture goes against everything good about America. I don't like it and think it is extremely poor policy.

I don't know about "condoned" or "supported", but the U.S. has used torture in WWII for sure against the Japanese...ostensibly to protect our boys who were captured. Of course, resorting to torture is not the moral choice, neither is killing. Unfortunately, wars are sometimes necessary and both are very effective tools to wage war.

re: #100 LoFlyer

First of all physical pain to coerce confession or information is just plain wrong. Yes, if I was Jack Bauer trying to save LA from nuclear terrorism in 24, I would be the first pulling teeth with pliars trying to save LA. It should never be official policy of our great nation though. What happens if a mistake in identification is made and it is you being tortured?

L.F. you've just contradicted yourself. I wouldn't describe torture as "official U.S. policy"...as in "let's torture 'em all and see what we find out!" I think waterboarding has been applied to only 3 prisoners in the recent conflict (Lizard fact-check please?). It's applied only rarely; otherwise, we treat our prisoners better than their homelife probably.

Sorry to hear about your Dad, VegasRick.
My Dad died a few years ago and I think about him every day.
Keep him alive in your heart and hang in there.

re: #142 stymie

How could you not want to drive a stake through the heart of the Clinton Crime Machine? Rush has always had a tin ear when it comes to the Clinton's. He is so wrong on this that he just might get the witch elected. Then she'll either get the Fairness doctrine instituted or get someone to plant an oxy or two on Rush and he'll be in a Federal Pen. My wife and I changed our registration to unafiliated so that we could counter the foolish Operation Chaos in NC. Don't forget what the Hilda beast said-Be careful what you wish for, Rush!

I fill for what you are saying but if worse comes i rather have Hillary than Obama. HE is a Marxist by what i have found out!:) Hilliary is not far behind.... But the republicans know how to deal with here.... Hillabeast!

re: #147 yitzy

LoFlyer wants us to "call it what it is," doesn't "like" it, and thinks we should not do it, but would pull teeth out with pliers personally in certain rare cases. You know, the old "wink wink, nod nod" approach to the issue. Of course, the fact that it actually has only been used in certain rare cases (yes, the total number is 3 over the course of the ENTIRE conflict) doesn't matter. He/she doesn't like it. Sorry, LoFlyer, spoken like a true liberal -- advocating policy based on feelings ("like") rather than rational consideration of the facts and consequences. I am familiar with your posts, and they are generally very cogent and well written, but you are just off base here. (Just my opinion, of course.)

To Vegasrick: I am sorry to hear about your Father. How wonderful that he was so loved by his family.

I can not help but wonder if the interview with Bill O'Reilly will even be remembered because I see no way in hell that the Dems will let Hillery have the nomination. Bill and Hillery can do interviews and scream and yell and threaten all they want but I do believe the Dems will not give her the nomination. Barak is their guy and they are sticking to it!

re: #62 Ojoe

Got me!

re: #68 VegasRick
God Bless you. I lost mine 52ish years ago having served in the army during that time too. He died as a result of non-combat injury. They were a great generation also.

P.S. This interview was with a woman who lost an argument to a Coffee Machine ans wants to be President? Ah sorry, I know Operation Chaos needs to squelch the video but it's too funny.

re: #68 VegasRick

To VagasRick's dad, "Pave the way for us, old soldier..."

God bless.

TexasAC, Korea 52-53

Personally I couldn't care less what the terrorists feel while in our control. Considering what the North Vietnamese, the North Koreans, the Soviets, the Iranians, the Iraqi republican Guard and many more have done to our soldiers and our allies, being "better than that" accounts for squat. You fight a war to win it and if it means you perform open vivisection on a terrorist and feed the remains to the hogs in front of his friends, so be it. I do not hear one whit on the side of the lefites complain about what al Qeda hgas done. Screw this play nice bullshit, do you really think the enemy really respects that? They don't, they consider us weak and wimpy. I want to US to be the biggest baddest dog on the block. Just leave us alone and you'll be fine. Mess with us, and will rip you apart. Don't want to get ripped apart? Then don't fly planes into our buildings.

Bubbasbbq, I think you're a *little* over the top. Just a little. I will not go out of my way to vivisect a terrorist just to be "the biggest baddest dog on the block", but putting them to death in the quickest way possible I can agree with. Likewise with their buddies and sympathizers.

LoFlyer, in this case you are full of mush. Torture, properly applied in the right circumstances is necessary, regardless of how one feels. If I can torture much needed information that will save lives out of somebody that I know has the information, I will do it, and do it gladly. Not to throw terror into the dumb sod that I am working on, not to serve as a cautionary example ("pour encourager les autres" if I am quoting correctly), but to get much needed information to save lives, especially innocent ones! It's a disagreeable chore, but somebody's gotta do it - and you aren't obviously the one!

VegasRick, my condolences, and prayers for you and yours. Maybe my dad and yours can swap stories Up There, until we all "can meet around the pleasing bar of God". Our dads' were sumptin', weren't they? Just like this brave generation fighting and dying today...

JAFLW

Read my post again, I didn't say I advocate it, I said I didn't care if they did it. Being enemy combatants and not "real Soldiers" the Geneva Convention doesn't apply, not that anyone else in the world ever follows it except us. However, I am going to say, unless you strike fear, REAL fear into your enemy's heart, the fight will go one because the fighting won't stop until you sap their will to fight. And Yes, being the biggest baddest dog in the block in the war is VERY important. They attacked us because they thought we were weak and impotent. Unfortuantely, we are somewhere in between. We are not totally weak, but we need to be stronger where it counts.

re: #37 LoFlyer

Confining a claustrophobic to a cell is torture, psychological abuse (yelling at) someone is torture, anything I don't like is torture, by that definition. Some torture, by that definition, is acceptable to a reasonable man, and may be used to coerce information from an unwilling detainee.

re: #37 LoFlyer

Simulated drowning is torture. Try it sometime and tell me what you think of it.....

Many of our military, diplomatic, and intelligence types have training in resisting interrogation. The training can include waterboarding.

The trouble with defining waterboarding as torture is that if it's torture, so is prolonged confinement, deprivations---no women, no alcohol, no cigarettes, no T-bone steaks, where is the line?

Drawing the line at a short list of specific cruelties invented by top-ten sadists of the past allows too free a rein to interrogators.

The fact is, there's no line. Anything we do, short of letting people loose, can be spun as torture. You can hear it now, from Al Reutszeera:

The prospect of rotting away in a not-exactly-POW camp, when all you ever did was car-bomb a wedding party and kill a bunch of not-exactly-infidels, has to be sheer torture. A decent respect for human rights requires that you be set free, and invited to weddings.

And in the other direction, many of the things we do, including waterboarding, are coercive and unpleasant. Waterboarding should be reserved for the most drastic and urgent situations, when a great many lives are at stake and the subject is sure to know enough to be very helpful in reducing the danger.

re: #96 CaddyMan

And she's not a Marxist?
Man you are easily fooled. All Dems are Marxist. Some are better then others at obscuring it. McLame is his name, but clearly a better choice than the Dems. He was not my choice, but that's what we have so we just need to keep him honest on immigration and pray he picks someone good as VP.