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Krauthammer Revisits the 'Race' Speech

Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:12:05 am PDT

The Barack Obama campaign is desperately hoping that most Americans are dumb hicks with the memory retention of soap dishes; because if they start to compare what he said in that Philadelphia “race” speech last March with what he said last Tuesday, he’s sunk: The ‘Race’ Speech Revisited.

“I can no more disown him [Jeremiah Wright] than I can disown my white grandmother.”

— Barack Obama, Philadelphia, March 18

Guess it’s time to disown Granny, if Obama’s famous Philadelphia “race” speech is to be believed. Of course, the speech was not just believed. It was hailed, celebrated, canonized as the greatest pronouncement on race in America since Lincoln at Cooper Union. A New York Times columnist said it “should be required reading in classrooms across the country.” College seniors and first-graders, suggested the excitable Chris Matthews.

Apparently there’s been a curriculum change. On Tuesday, the good senator begged to extend and revise his previous remarks on race. Moral equivalence between Grandma and Wright is now, as the Nixon administration used to say, inoperative. Poor Geraldine Ferraro, thrice lashed by Obama in Philadelphia as the white equivalent of Wright’s raving racism, is off the hook.

These equivalences having been revealed as the cheap rhetorical tricks they always were, Obama has now decided that the man he simply could not banish because he had become part of Obama himself is, mirabile dictu, surgically excised.

At a news conference in North Carolina, Obama explained why he finally decided to do the deed. Apparently, Wright’s latest comments — Obama cited three in particular — were so shockingly “divisive and destructive” that he had to renounce the man, not just the words.

What were Obama’s three citations? Wright’s claim that AIDS was invented by the U.S. government to commit genocide. His praise of Louis Farrakhan as a great man. And his blaming Sept. 11 on American “terrorism.”

But these comments are not new. These were precisely the outrages that prompted the initial furor when the Wright tapes emerged seven weeks ago. Obama decided to cut off Wright not because Wright’s words or character or views had suddenly changed. The only thing that changed was the venue in which Wright chose to display them — live on national TV at the National Press Club. That unfortunate choice destroyed Obama’s Philadelphia pretense that this “endless loop” of sermon excerpts being shown on “television sets and YouTube” had been taken out of context.

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1 vxbush  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:13:42am

Man, it really hurts when they come to bite your rear end.

2 sattv4u2  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:13:47am

“I can no more disown him [Jeremiah Wright] than I can disown my white grandmother.”

Run Granny , Run ,,,,,, here comes the BUS !

3 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:13:59am

Krauthammer should have his name legally changed to MoonbatHammer.

4 debutaunt  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:15:43am

Reality - Hammer.

5 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:15:45am
6 Tarkloon  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:15:53am

Precisely the comments indeed!
Meanwhile the Kos Krowd Krazies are frothing at similar comparisons from Glen Beck and Ann Coulter:

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

7 NoSubmission  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:16:40am
Grandmothers and buses.


Meanwhile, we've got a war going on, a troubled economy and al quaeda at our throats.

8 debutaunt  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:17:35am

Keep hammering.

9 JammieWearingFool  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:19:28am

Soap dishes everywhere take umbrage at such remarks.

10 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:19:56am
11 red satellite  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:19:58am

Krauthammer is the man.

12 Silhouette  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:20:25am

I thought he already disowned the woman who stayed up nights with him, fed him, clothed him, and saw to his education. For that audacious guy who provided sperm and then abandoned one or two families.

13 chinesearithmetic  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:21:25am

This week it's malice toward all and charity toward none. Tune in next week for further updates..

14 redshirt  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:22:01am

Has Obama the great "Uniter" just divided the black vote? There were big voices praising him and supporting Wright. Now, the gauntlet has been thrown. Will blacks line up with Obama or Wright?
A nation divided, a party divided, and now blacks divided. Obama is batting 1000.

15 coquimbojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:22:07am

I am amazed at the complete lack of logic of Obama's denunciations and Wright's supporters.

This mess alone proves to me that BHO should never be president.

16 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:22:40am
17 bolivar  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:23:32am

Gee, you mean the big O is only human - why he actually talks out of his ass like every other politician and tells so many lies he can't keep the lies straight anymore? You know we tell our children not to lie and since the big O did not have a "good childhood" perhaps nobody ever told him that.......nah he is a lyin, self-centered, two-bit, no good, four-flushin, wuthless skonk. Get the hell outta Dodge big O you are not up to the task - either brain power or guts wise.

He is just making this too easy isn't he?

/ do I really have to?

18 Tarkloon  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:23:50am

I still think Gordon Marock's comment:

"I did not have spiritual relations with that minister" needs to be a rotating title.

19 Kenneth  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:23:51am

Obama decided to dump Wright the day before the polls showed him losing to Hillary in North Carolina. You can be he saw the numbers before they were published.

1. About the "Race speech": the account of his grandmother, the "typical white person" is substantially different that the account of the incident he wrote about in his book, Dreams of My Father.

2. Obama helped Wright organize Louis Farakhan's Million Man March.

20 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:24:02am

We in the National Foundation for the Advancement of Soap Dishes find this post to be very offensive.

/Soap Dishes of the world unite - you have nothing to lose but your scum.

21 jamgarr  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:24:30am

In one particularly egregious play on white guilt, Obama had the audacity to suggest that whites should be ashamed that they were ever surprised by Wright's remarks: "The fact that so many people are surprised to hear that anger in some of Reverend Wright's sermons simply reminds us of the old truism that the most segregated hour of American life occurs on Sunday morning."

That was then. On Tuesday, Obama declared that he himself was surprised at Wright's outrages. But hadn't Obama told us that surprise about Wright is a result of white ignorance of black churches brought on by America's history of segregated services? How then to explain Obama's own presumed ignorance? Surely he too was not sitting in those segregated white churches on those fateful Sundays when he conveniently missed all of Wright's racist rants.

/CK rules!

22 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:24:30am

re: #15 coquimbojoe

I am amazed at the complete lack of logic of Obama's denunciations

Hey, these are among the greatest speeches in American political history. They make the Gettysburg Address look like a Beavis & Butthead transcript. Take the hopium, and get with the program.

23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:24:47am

So much for BHO being such a great speaker.

24 DaveOlson  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:25:14am

I believe that the dems will have a very hard time nominating Hillary, even though she is probably the stronger candidate. Therefore, this topic will be with us until November. I am looking forward to someone finding the DVD for sale in the church Narthex that shows the Rev. preaching his diatribe with Obama in the background, rooting him on.

25 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:27:17am

Jonah Goldberg:

After Barack Obama gave his big race speech in mid-March, many critics noted that the Illinois senator had thrown his own grandmother under the bus to defend his controversial pastor. Well, Wright proved over the last few days that he would not be outdone. He not only threw Obama under the bus, he chucked much of the liberal and mainstream media under there with him. If this keeps up, to paraphrase Roy Scheider in Jaws, he’s gonna need a bigger bus.

26 varmint  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:27:20am

toon

stuff is finally starting to come out about wright's replacement. obama is going to have to cut the whole church loose.

27 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:27:44am

Sorry, Obama, you clearly don't have enough fingers and toes to plug up this dyke, and the water's rising higher and higher on the other side.

28 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:27:56am

re: #14 redshirt

Has Obama the great "Uniter" just divided the black vote? There were big voices praising him and supporting Wright. Now, the gauntlet has been thrown. Will blacks line up with Obama or Wright?
A nation divided, a party divided, and now blacks divided. Obama is batting 1000.

I am hoping that the America-haters (of whatever complexion) will stay home and not vote in their anger over Obama's "betrayal"; and that at least SOME of the people (of whatever complexion) who had sampled the hopium will come to their senses because of this debacle.

And if the whole thing shines a light on some of the hate that is dangerously close to being "mainstream" in "black America", all the better. It's high time that the black race arsonists are banished to the same political wilderness as the white ones.

29 jamgarr  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:28:29am

he’s gonna need a bigger bus.

/If that doesn't deserve to rotate I don't know what does

30 Teacake!  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:28:59am

For some reason most of my friends are loonie lefties and there is nothing obama can say that will change their mind about him. Actually all these personal flaws helps the affinity they feel for him, they want to see amercia crushed and that's what they love about him

31 Montaigne's Cat  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:29:03am

Obama should apologize to all the conservatives and other Americans who were outraged before he (Obama) saw the light. My fellow Americans, he should say, you were right and I was wrong. I am sorry for doubting you, perhaps you are right about many other things as well. I will be re-evaluating my positions on national security and the economy and entitlements.

32 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:29:09am
33 Cartman  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:29:12am

I just checked my soad dish for memory retention. Less than 1k, with several leaks.

34 johnnyreb  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:29:28am

In the end nothing about this will matter to his base. They won't (or can't) see anything wrong with him.

I would love to see a poll that called the exact same phone numbers of people in NC that said they supported Obama before all of this, and which way they would vote now. I doubt there would be much of a difference.

35 cizi  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:29:35am

Obama's performance in all this has bridged the dichotomy described by Wright: it has been both "different" and "deficient".

36 Cartman  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:29:46am

PIMF - soap

*sigh*

37 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:29:50am

re: #30 Teacake!

For some reason most of my friends are loonie lefties and there is nothing obama can say that will change their mind about him. Actually all these personal flaws helps the affinity they feel for him, they want to see amercia crushed and that's what they love about him

Get some new friends!

38 bosforus  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:30:28am

When you're in the tank, you're in the tank. The zObambies remember but they'll tell themselves it doesn't matter.

39 Teacake!  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:31:15am

I hope though those who have been undecided all this time and who isn't so thrilled with any of the candidates will at least be moved to vote for H or McC and prevent this disaster

40 blangwort  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:31:23am

re: #27 MrSilverDragon

Sorry, Obama, you clearly don't have enough fingers and toes to plug up this dyke, and the water's rising higher and higher on the other side.

Uhh, didn't you mean dike? (ducks)

41 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:31:30am

Hey, Krauthammer, would you let the poor man eat his waffle already?!

42 Ojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:31:33am

I will remember this for the rest of my life.

Too bad for Obama in 2008,

Too bad for the Democratic party until probably 2050.

43 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:31:45am

re: #29 jamgarr

he’s gonna need a bigger bus.

/If that doesn't deserve to rotate I don't know what does

Agreed. I just about spewed when I read that last night. NRO should be on our shortlists.

44 Electron Shuffler  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:32:15am

Twenty Years Barry. Why has it taken you this long to come to the realization that Rev. Wright's words are “divisive and destructive”.

Do you think we are that stupid?

Keep on hammering, Mr. Krauthammer Sir!

45 J.S.  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:32:21am

I saw another speech by the Obamanation the other day -- I could help laughing -- the Obama was yammering on in that fake Southern dialect about "Change" -- Yah, "Change ya can buh-leave in.." (did I hear hearty guffaws in the audience?) Followed by "Hope"... I'm just hopin' the clown leaves the stage -- Enough! (I also couldn't help but imagine, throughout the Obama's speech, in the background that prancing/twirling/dancin' lunatic "Reverend" Jeremiah Wright...)

46 Teacake!  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:32:57am

nevergiveup - not so easy here in new orleans... 2 kinds of people - lefties or major redneck types. I'm not either.

47 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:33:33am

re: #40 blangwort

Uhh, didn't you mean dike? (ducks)

Not so long as it's just fingers and toes.

48 gman  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:34:09am

re: #19 Kenneth

Obama decided to dump Wright the day before the polls showed him losing to Hillary in North Carolina. You can be he saw the numbers before they were published.

I agree with you. The polls were the deciding factor, not the fact that Wright spoke to the Press Club. If Obama is elected, look for Wright to show up on the national scene again, preaching his message of hate and division.

49 Ojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:34:19am

re: #26 varmint

I think you should put quotes around church, thusly:

obama is going to have to cut the whole "church" loose.
50 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:34:20am

re: #41 Occasional Reader

Hey, Krauthammer, would you let the poor man eat his waffle already?!

Fantastic!

51 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:34:59am

re: #40 blangwort

Uhh, didn't you mean dike? (ducks)

Both are acceptable according to the American Heritage dictionary, but that certainly puts a different spin on the original note!

52 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:35:26am

re: #46 Teacake!

nevergiveup - not so easy here in new orleans... 2 kinds of people - lefties or major redneck types. I'm not either.

Hum, I see your problem. Well, then I suggest you start drinking alot of hard liquor.

53 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:35:28am

re: #49 Ojoe

I think you should put quotes around church, thusly:

He's going to have to cut the whole "Chutch" loose.

54 bystander  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:35:49am

Sorry, I must have missed that speech. I was too busy clinging to my guns and religion.

55 Tarkloon  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:36:28am

re: #32 taxfreekiller

Some one from the Church who was mis-used by the Rev. Wright and or the Obama family is going to make a bundle once they get the book deal ink dry, my guess Rush will get the interview and do the interview live on Fox News.

Facts count, and for sure in the National Inquirer.

That's an acutely keen observation, I bet there are some huge royalty advances out there shopping for an author now.

56 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:36:49am

re: #54 bystander

Sorry, I must have missed that speech. I was too busy clinging to my guns and religion.

Well at least your not bitter about it?

57 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:37:24am

re: #54 bystander

Sorry, I must have missed that speech. I was too busy clinging to my guns and religion.

If that childish liar gets elected, guns and religion will be all we have left.

The Second guarantees the First.

58 Kenneth  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:37:44am

Obama's "Race Speech" was a masterpiece of conflation. Every point he made was by confusing one issue with another.

He could no more disown Wright, than he could disown his white grandmother. Wright is a racist Black man. His grandmother was not racist, she was an elderly white woman afraid of an aggressive panhandler, who happened to be black. Not the same.

Wright does not speak for all African Americans.

Legitimate grievances and resentment over racism in America does not mean the gov't gave AIDS and crack to African Americans.

59 Ojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:37:56am

Clingy Klingon

60 varmint  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:38:01am

re: #49 Ojoe

Nobody seems to comment on this. When the Reverend Wright got up and gave the insano conspiracy sermons, the whole congregation cheered. It's a church full of loons.

61 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:38:29am

re: #55 Tarkloon

That's an acutely keen observation, I bet there are some huge royalty advances out there shopping for an author now.

Hell, I'll write the darned thing. The truth bar has been set pretty low in that locale.

62 kansas  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:38:42am

The Barack Obama campaign is desperately hoping that most Americans are dumb hicks with the memory retention of soap dishes; because if they start to compare what he said in that Philadelphia “race” speech last March with what he said last Tuesday, he’s sunk:

No worries there.

63 Kenneth  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:39:18am

re: #48 gman

Oh Wright's not going away. The man has a book deal and a speaking tour lined up. He's hit pay dirt!

64 Intrepid  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:39:20am

Barack Obama is finally revealing himself to his own party - he's the Chauncey Gardner of the left.

And now on Hot Air there is a portion of a vid from a '92 Clinton campaign documentary in which Mickey Kantor (Clinton's sec of commerce and trade rep) calls Indianans "White N-----s", and "Shit". Neither George Stephy nor James Carville confront him on those statements.

Kantor is now one of Hillary's advisers.

Why any hard working, self-respecting person would align themselves with the dems is a mystery to me.

65 Tarkloon  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:39:32am

re: #61 haakondahl

Hell, I'll write the darned thing. The truth bar has been set pretty low in that locale.

Regnery might be interested....

66 Ojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:39:40am

re: #60 varmint

I pray that they are in the great minority regarding the whole of our fellow citizens.

67 blangwort  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:40:12am

As contradictory as BHO is, he's going to win the election unless someone finds a picture of him standing naked in a closet with a boy scout and shaved German Shepard.

A contradictory person gives the LLL something to ponder. They like pondering. They would rather ponder things than do something.

Meanwhile, McCain is hardly a shining example of the best of the GOP, Clinton is a rerun, and the Dems are still fighting against Bush.

If nothing else, this campaign is a very ugly mess. BHO is the worst front running candidate we've seen for president in many years, and he ordinarily wouldn't get elected --except that his competitors are even bigger losers.

68 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:40:28am

re: #60 varmint

Nobody seems to comment on this. When the Reverend Wright got up and gave the insano conspiracy sermons, the whole congregation cheered. It's a church full of loons.

I guess Obama, due to his rock star like quality, was always safely enclosed in a glass booth at a distant location so he wasn't exposed to said lunacy?

69 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:40:46am

re: #64 Intrepid

Barack Obama is finally revealing himself to his own party - he's the Chauncey Gardner of the left.

He is the anti-Chauncey, because Chauncey didn't hate anyone

70 tfc3rid  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:41:18am

Not to act like a real tin foil hat idiot but maybe Obama's plan has worked out all along... If he agrees (secretly) with Rev. Assface Wright, then why wouldn't Obama WANT a race discussion to get to the boiling point...

71 Diamond Bullet  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:41:41am

I actually met Krauthammer once. He was tooling around in this big black wheelchair - it was probably my imagination, but I'm pretty sure it had moonbat-skin hubcabs.

72 Tarkloon  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:41:51am

If you think about it, the bookstores will be full of political books for summer vacation... the ratio will be 20 McCain Bashing books to 1 Barack bashing book, but the Barack bashing book will become a runaway best seller.

73 onslow  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:41:53am

re: #19 Kenneth

Polling data suggests that Obama will win North Carolina.

Real Clear Politics NC Polling Data

74 wahabicorridor  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:42:59am

I cannot wait for Wright's book to come out - October, I think.

75 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:43:05am

re: #73 onslow

Polling data suggests that Obama will win North Carolina.

Real Clear Politics NC Polling Data

True but 10 days ago he had a 25 point lead.

76 Intrepid  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:43:42am

re: #69 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

He is the anti-Chauncey, because Chauncey didn't hate anyone

True. But all Chauncey had was gardening tips, and all Obama has is "yes we can". Actually, Chauncey's offerings were more useful.

77 kynna  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:44:21am

Unfortunately the voting public does have only the memory capacity of a soap dish. That's how Clinton got elected. That's how his wife got elected to the senate. That's how people continue to embrace socialism.

The news media is completely devoid of any moral compass. Nobody cares to set them straight. Nobody cares that everything they 'know' is wrong because Jason Blair et al are at the foundation of all their 'knowledge.'

78 Colin Nelson  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:44:48am

The Mighty K strikes again!.

Brilliant.

Hope all lizards will link to the full article, as the remainder of the CK smack down (not shown by our Charles) is masterful in scornfully exposing the intellectual rot behind the much praised first Obama speech defending the Rev Wright.

79 tfc3rid  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:46:08am

re: #77 kynna

In fairness Hillary won in NY because it's NY... If you're a Dem in this state you're a guaranteed winner...

80 Ojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:46:41am

If you go around yelling "G-d damn America" don't you think that would have negative effects in the spiritual realm?

I think it would.

81 gman  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:46:44am

re: #63 Kenneth

Oh Wright's not going away. The man has a book deal and a speaking tour lined up. He's hit pay dirt!

Yep! and you better believe every racist demagogue in the black community will be coming out of the woodworks once they get the green light (Obama elected).

Imagine 4 years of Jesse Jackson and the Rev. Wright on the networks preaching their "Whitey is keeping the black man down" message.

82 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:46:48am
83 Ojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:47:54am

re: #80 Ojoe

Violates 2nd Commandment too, IMHO

84 Kenneth  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:48:16am
That was then. On Tuesday, Obama declared that he himself was surprised at Wright's outrages. But hadn't Obama told us that surprise about Wright is a result of white ignorance of black churches brought on by America's history of segregated services? How then to explain Obama's own presumed ignorance? Surely he too was not sitting in those segregated white churches on those fateful Sundays when he conveniently missed all of Wright's racist rants.

Krauthammer nails it.

85 hermeneutics  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:48:18am

This was the line I loved the most:

"Obama's liberal acolytes are not daunted. They were taken in by the first great statement on race: the Annunciation, the Chosen One comes to heal us in Philly. They now are taken in by the second: the Renunciation."

86 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:48:43am

re: #80 Ojoe

If you go around yelling "G-d damn America" don't you think that would have negative effects in the spiritual realm?

I think it would.

If you go around yelling "G-D damn America" and other overtly political diatribes, How in hell do you retain your tax free status as a religious institution?

87 BrianA  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:49:08am

Obama's disowning of Wright was actually another example of his arrogance. How dare Wright disrespect and question the motives of the messiah.

88 Ojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:49:30am

re: #86 Nevergiveup

Don't know.

89 LeonidasOfSparta  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:49:34am

Thank you Krauthammer!

90 tfc3rid  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:50:16am

re: #88 Ojoe

Don't know.

Because it would just be like the racist, xenophobic, hating government to take our status away,,,

91 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:51:04am

re: #83 Ojoe

Violates 2nd Commandment too, IMHO

That's the right to bear arms, correct?

/

92 Ojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:51:15am

Gotta go to work, Carry on, important blog this.

93 phil flavin  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:51:34am

re: #64 Intrepid

Barack Obama is finally revealing himself to his own party - he's the Chauncey Gardner of the left.

And now on Hot Air there is a portion of a vid from a '92 Clinton campaign documentary in which Mickey Kantor (Clinton's sec of commerce and trade rep) calls Indianans "White N-----s", and "Shit". Neither George Stephy nor James Carville confront him on those statements.

Kantor is now one of Hillary's advisers.

Why any hard working, self-respecting person would align themselves with the dems is a mystery to me.

God help me, I am about to "defend' a Clinton associate.
The video doesn't seem to match the audio to me. Esp. when the N bomb is dropped.

94 Ojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:51:48am

re: #91 Occasional Reader

I like them both, try to keep them

BBL

95 cblesz  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:52:10am

This point (Krauthammer) needs to be hammered continuously. So much that Barry needs to have ANOTHER press conference to discuss his flip-flopping. It is truly disgusting that the mainstream media chooses to ignore it.

96 Colin Nelson  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:52:52am

Anybody care to suggest just how Rove pulled off this entire scam?

97 hermeneutics  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:53:10am

Did you see the lead on Drudge -- "Jobless Rate Falling"

... and the Dow crosses 13,000; Dollar up.

This is great news, not just economically, but for Republicans. Suffer the bad economic aspects early and let the economy "recover" in time for the election.

Ours IS a great economy.

98 infidelia  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:53:25am

re: #85 hermeneutics

This was the line I loved the most:

"Obama's liberal acolytes are not daunted. They were taken in by the first great statement on race: the Annunciation, the Chosen One comes to heal us in Philly. They now are taken in by the second: the Renunciation."

These people are depressing enough to make you want to go hang yourself in a shed.

99 rcris5  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:53:26am

Bought a .400 Corbon chambered barrel for my Sig P220. So excited, I'll be the coolest guy on the range.

100 cblesz  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:54:33am

re: #97 hermeneutics

Did you see the lead on Drudge -- "Jobless Rate Falling"

... and the Dow crosses 13,000; Dollar up.

This is great news, not just economically, but for Republicans. Suffer the bad economic aspects early and let the economy "recover" in time for the election.

Ours IS a great economy.


Please. The MSM will focus on everything that is negative. There will be no positive headlines in the NY Times, LA Times, etc. We all know it...

101 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:54:38am
102 hermeneutics  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:55:00am

re: #98 infidelia

Hi Infidelia -- Did I ever tell you that your nic reminds me of an onion?

:)

103 MandyManners  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:55:04am

re: #96 Colin Nelson

Anybody care to suggest just how Rove pulled off this entire scam?

Well, he *is* a magnificent bastard.

104 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:55:53am
105 wrenchwench  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:56:04am

One more time, in case someone has not seen it yet.

This is from 2004:

On this particular Sunday, the sea of black worshippers is dotted with a few white folks up in the balcony, clutching copies of The Audacity of Hope they've brought for Obama's book-signing later. Obama, sitting in the third row with his wife and two daughters, Malia and Natasha, stands, claps, prays, and sways along with the rest of the congregation. During the sermon, he watches the preacher carefully and writes notes.
106 hermeneutics  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:56:17am

re: #100 cblesz

Yes, but as we type, the WSJ surpasses the NYT in readership. The more objective financial papers are the ones that are NOT going under. The lib rags are plummeting.

107 pig farmer  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:56:57am

It's been toooo long since I read comments on this blog...you lizards have me spitting milk out my nose with your hilarious remarks!thank you, thank you, thank you! You make this nomination season much more bearable! you rock!

108 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:58:00am

re: #93 phil flavin

God help me, I am about to "defend' a Clinton associate.
The video doesn't seem to match the audio to me. Esp. when the N bomb is dropped.

I disagree. The "those people are shit" line is CLEARLY audible. And even for the N-bomb, it's more muted, but close your eyes if you want and turn up the volume; yes, he says it.

109 zmdavid  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:58:15am

re: #106 hermeneutics

Yes, but as we type, the WSJ surpasses the NYT in readership. The more objective financial papers are the ones that are NOT going under. The lib rags are plummeting.


Rupert Murdoch has the NYT surrounded. He keeps buying NYC papers.

110 NoLongerSilent  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:58:24am

Let's not get too excited.
It's only May.
Not many people will remember this in November (unfortunately). And there are lots of politicians who contradict themselves from one speech to the next, depending on the audience, the polls and who just threatened to withhold a "donation."

111 hermeneutics  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:59:00am

Kari Rove is America's most influential political pundit according to the lefty Guardian.
Today is a good day.


1. KARL ROVE

Dubbed the “architect” and “Bush’s brain”, Rove plotted to rise of George W Bush and departed the White House after the disastrous 2006 mid-term elections. Successful punditry is a combination of real political experience, intellectual nimbleness, a provocative turn of phrase and a coherent point of view. Rove, a Fox News commentator and contributor to Newsweek and the Wall Street Journal, has all these qualities.

Democrats may protest that they would rather see him in jail than on their television screens but they can’t help noting what he says. Whether outlining what the Democrats should do or outlining John McCain’s rocky path to victory (and McCain has followed his advice almost to the letter), Rove’s take is important and often surprising. Expect the name Rove to come up frequently on the campaign trail – and in coverage of it.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

112 Ornery Potlicker  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:59:08am

Chickens....roosting....Change!

/LMAO!

113 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:59:37am

re: #97 hermeneutics

Did you see the lead on Drudge -- "Jobless Rate Falling"


20,000 jobs shed... but even on NPR this morning, they were saying that 50,000 lost would be good news, relatively speaking.

This "crisis" is looking more and more like a speed bump.

114 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:59:49am

re: #58 Kenneth

Obama's "Race Speech" was a masterpiece of conflation. Every point he made was by confusing one issue with another.

He could no more disown Wright, than he could disown his white grandmother. Wright is a racist Black man. His grandmother was not racist, she was an elderly white woman afraid of an aggressive panhandler, who happened to be black. Not the same.

Wright does not speak for all African Americans.

Legitimate grievances and resentment over racism in America does not mean the gov't gave AIDS and crack to African Americans.

Absolutely. The only people with more justification (as if needed) for anger at Wright and Obama than typical white folks--is typical black folks. It is just sickening to see these race-hustlers paint the entire melanin contingent as some sort of radical front with plans for imminent Socialist action. As Dennis Prager asks, "Why are there so-called 'Black leaders'?"
All the black "leadership" has done for decades is exaggerate the numbers and severity of racist incidents and conditions, and of black poverty and incarceration. Same as Hitler (I am not calling anybody Hitler) did in actually *degrading* the working and living conditions of coal miners. "You cannot motivate satisfied people." Not only must this leadership convince black people that they have it bad, they also actively work to make it bad. Can't get a job? Try speaking in Ebonics at your interview! Family life not good? Let's subsidize illegitimacy while penalizing responsibility! Not feeling proud or confident? Here, stand in line and wait for a handout!
Charlatans like Rev. Wright and less-offensive card men like Senator Obama do real damage to America, and they do it not by hurting white folks, but black, because in the short term, it increases their own personal power--whether in a church or in government--you cannot motivate satisfied people. You cannot be the adored saviour of people happy where they are.
That's the substance. The style is also crap. I was just slack-jawed to see Rev. Wright dancing in a little circle, gettin' his groove on, shakin' his whatever, as he described differences between blacks and whites. It was minstrelsy. Blackface Bullshit. Ugh! And Obama putting on his Y'all, Unh-hunhhh, well-shut-my-mouth when speaking in the south (Clinton does it too) is a scandal. The man speaks very well when not simply stammering, and has a crisp, clear tone, with a slight midwest accent. If a black man running for President feels that he needs to "get his black on" to gain black votes, then he demeans them, and he demeans himself.
Getting back to your point, Kenneth, there are of course very real problems which should be addressed and solved where possible or mitigated. But through the conflation you spoke of, all it does is guarantee that nothing will get solved, because America sure is not getting on board with the nonsense we have seen from these clowns, and will not want to touch anything that they have befouled through association.

115 doppelganglander  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:00:24am

Krauthammer was terrific on Fox News All-Stars last night. As a psychiatrist, he may be the only person truly qualified to explain the moonbat mind.

Also, I highly recommend Jonah Goldberg's current column on the Tuskgee experiment. He doesn't defend it by any means, but he clears up a lot of misinformation. The doctors selected patients with tertiary, non-communicable syphilis; they never infected anyone. Interesting reading.

116 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:00:33am

I HOPE Obama CHANGEs his mind about running for President.

117 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:01:15am

re: #65 Tarkloon

Regnery might be interested....

I thought they were OK? Hmmm... did they publish Savage Nation? That was an awful book with all of the true parts written on the dust jacket.

118 guzziguy  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:01:50am

re: #40 blangwort

Uhh, didn't you mean dike? (ducks)

Not if he was indicating HRC.

119 Racer X  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:01:51am

The Audacity of Hope is that Obama will Change his mind and drop out of the race.

Oh the audacity!

120 phil flavin  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:01:52am

re: #108 Occasional Reader
Don't get me wrong. Anything that points out what a dipstick Carville is and that keeps the feathers flying between HillBillery and Osama Obama is a good thing in my book!
I hope I am wrong and the footage is legit. Not, of course, that any news organization would actually show the footage.

121 Intrepid  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:02:13am

re: #93 phil flavin

God help me, I am about to "defend' a Clinton associate.
The video doesn't seem to match the audio to me. Esp. when the N bomb is dropped.

I went back and watched it a couple more times - normal laptop audio - and it was tough to see what he was saying, and his whispering made it hard to clearly hear it. But when I put on my headphones and didn't watch it, only listened, it sounded pretty clear to me.

Try that, and see if it indeed sounds like "Worthless white n-----s".

122 redheadredstate  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:02:27am

I was just listening to an entire Wright "sermon" that Glenn Beck had broadcast for "context" clarification. It is clear to me more than ever that this man is a racist biggot and that the many in his audience just "a whoopin and a hollerin" are the same. My question is since about 50 minutes of his 50 minute sermon was devoted to political and not religious speech can his "church" lose it's tax-exempt status? It seems to me that there is more politics than preachin going on at Trinity United Church of Politics.

123 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:02:59am

re: #114 haakondahl

That was a mahty pow'ful post, sho'nuff.

/channelling my Hillary-or-Obama in the South voice

124 NoLongerSilent  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:03:15am

And why isn't more being made of the "typical white person" remark?

What exactly is a typical white person?
Italian?
Irish?
English?
German?
Latino?

It's clear to me that BHO is a racist, elitist narcissist. And those might be his best qualities. Clearly he is unfit to be POTUS.

125 hermeneutics  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:04:18am

re: #114 haakondahl

Haakondahl -- Great prose. Keep sharing your insights with us, please!

126 Fasternu426  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:04:29am

Can't sleep, Reality will eat me!

127 infidelia  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:04:33am

re: #102 hermeneutics

Hi Infidelia -- Did I ever tell you that your nic reminds me of an onion?

:)


It does, doesn't it. Sort of like vidalia... relatively sweet, lots of layers. Actually, I was in a Beethoven mood for some reason that day or I'd have come up with something wittier...

128 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:04:43am

re: #120 phil flavin

I hope I am wrong and the footage is legit.

Well, look, Kantor himself says "oh, excuse me" after the "they're shit" line. So clearly, he said SOMETHING that wasn't exactly "be kind to puppies".

Like I said, turn up the volume and listen. Both lines are definitely there. Of course, I have no way of knowing if the audio was somehow altered, but no reason to believe that it was, either.

129 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:04:44am

re: #70 tfc3rid

Not to act like a real tin foil hat idiot but maybe Obama's plan has worked out all along... If he agrees (secretly) with Rev. Assface Wright, then why wouldn't Obama WANT a race discussion to get to the boiling point...

I had a different take on it, in the same vein. If my Michelle Theory is wrong, perhaps it's this--Watch the Senator from Illinois TRANSCEND RACE RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES! SEE those angry black people be denounced, White America!

130 Colin Nelson  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:04:47am

#111 - Hermeneutics

Good one!

131 Racer X  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:04:51am

re: #116 Kosh's Shadow

re: #119 Racer X

I'm buying a lotto ticket today fer sure.

132 irongrampa  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:05:29am

Damn, that, as they say, is gonna leave a mark.

133 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:05:35am

re: #124 NoLongerSilent

What exactly is a typical white person?

I think it's the same thing as a "worthless white ni**er".

/consulting my LLL dictionary

134 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:06:08am
135 jaunte  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:06:27am

Thanks to Krauthammer, we can all now begin referring to Obama as a "serial adjuster."

136 bosforus  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:07:58am

I can't think of anything that I've done 780,000 times in 9 months.

137 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:08:03am

re: #96 Colin Nelson

Anybody care to suggest just how Rove pulled off this entire scam?

ROVE, YOU TYPICAL BASTARD!

138 bosforus  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:08:08am

re: #136 bosforus

OT

139 Intrepid  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:09:14am

Krauthammer is great, but I swear the man has the longest philtrum of anybody I've ever seen!

140 Fasternu426  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:10:15am

re: #139 Intrepid

Ok, I had to Google philtrum....

141 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:10:20am
142 Kenneth  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:10:27am

re: #114 haakondahl

Getting back to your point, Kenneth, there are of course very real problems which should be addressed and solved where possible or mitigated. But through the conflation you spoke of, all it does is guarantee that nothing will get solved, because America sure is not getting on board with the nonsense we have seen from these clowns, and will not want to touch anything that they have befouled through association.

Very true. Wright & his ilk simultaneously pump up the anger, and make it impossible to solve the real underlying issues. I watched a couple segments of the Carrier series on PBS. In it, there was a young African American woman from Athens, Georgia. She described how her parent were drug users, her father was a pimp, her mother had turned to prostitution, all her friends and family were getting pregnant by the time they were 16. She decide no way was that happening to her. She talked about how the Navy has given her opportunities she never dreamed of. Now this young woman works in the air traffic control room on the USS Nimitz. She didn't get there by succumbing to hatred and lies about America or blaming the whites for all her problems. Obama wants to talk about change? This young woman knows more about real change than that huckster ever could.

143 nyc redneck  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:10:55am

osama is on a roll, first his sweet granny, then his beloved spiritual advisor, i'm just thinking michelle better think abt. getting her protective gear ready.

144 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:10:59am

re: #139 Intrepid

Krauthammer is great, but I swear the man has the longest philtrum of anybody I've ever seen!

Are you experiencing philtrum envy?

145 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:11:46am

re: #86 Nevergiveup

If you go around yelling "G-D damn America" and other overtly political diatribes, How in hell do you retain your tax free status as a religious institution?

* * *
I'm beginning to think no-one should get tax free exemptions--to fund anti-American activities. Lower everyone's taxes, but no special favors to ANYONE, for "charitable organization" is too subject to fraud and abuse, as Hezbollah/"Holy Land" rip-offs have proven to fund anti-American activities.

146 hermeneutics  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:11:49am

I'm less impressed with the Guardian's list because Chris Matthews is number two.

The top ten political pundits, according to the Guardian:

1. Rove
2. Chris Matthews
3. Hannity
4. Rush
5. JOhn Harris and Jim Vandehei (politico.com)
6. Drudge
7. Russett
8. Jon Stewart (Daily Show on Comedy Central)
9. David Brooks (NYT)
10. Mark Halperin

147 infidelia  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:11:59am

re: #129 haakondahl

I had a different take on it, in the same vein. If my Michelle Theory is wrong, perhaps it's this--Watch the Senator from Illinois TRANSCEND RACE RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES! SEE those angry black people be denounced, White America!

The Obamassiah bringeth Heal-ing and Foha-giveness! Can I have an AMEN!

This guy is the original greased pig.

148 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:12:09am

re: #142 Kenneth

Obama wants to talk about change? This young woman knows more about real change than that huckster ever could.

No, no, she's a poor minority who was duped into becoming part of Bush's War Machine.

/

149 MandyManners  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:12:53am

re: #143 nyc redneck

osama is on a roll, first his sweet granny, then his beloved spiritual advisor, i'm just thinking michelle better think abt. getting her protective gear ready.

I don't know about that. The WAB seems to be as invested in this race as her husband.

150 MandyManners  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:13:19am

re: #144 Occasional Reader

Are you experiencing philtrum envy?

Is this the philtrum thread?

151 Intrepid  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:13:35am

re: #140 Fasternu426

Ok, I had to Google philtrum....

So did I....

But is that not the truth - that space is at least an inch long!

152 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:13:36am
153 Fasternu426  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:13:39am

re: #142 Kenneth

There's a young man in my neighborhood that I'm working on getting into the service. He really needs to get away from the thugs he's running with before it's too late for him. He's really a good kid and it would be a waste.... Talked to him yesterday and a recruiter will be paying him a visit next week!

154 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:13:45am

re: #97 hermeneutics

Did you see the lead on Drudge -- "Jobless Rate Falling"

... and the Dow crosses 13,000; Dollar up.

This is great news, not just economically, but for Republicans. Suffer the bad economic aspects early and let the economy "recover" in time for the election.

Ours IS a great economy.

* * *
Agreed.

155 Silhouette  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:14:12am

re: #136 bosforus

I can't think of anything that I've done 780,000 times in 9 months.

That is 3 hits a minute, 16 hours a day, without a day off.

20 seconds per view? ADHD meets pr0n

156 Intrepid  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:14:25am

re: #144 Occasional Reader

Are you experiencing philtrum envy?

hehehe

157 Shr_Nfr  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:14:49am

re: #57 haakondahl

Its funny how most people do not understand the origin of the second amendment. It was derived from the "Bill of Rights" in England put in place at the time of the Glorious Revolution of 88 when they kicked James II out of the country and put his protestant daughter Mary and her husband William in charge of the country. The concept of the right to bear arms at the time was not one of having a militia to defend the state, it was that the right to bear arms was the right of the citizens to oppose the government and back it up with military force should the government trample on their other rights. Perhaps antiquated at this point in time, but perhaps not. But in any case, the right to cling to your guns goes back much further than the American bill of Rights.

158 Fasternu426  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:15:09am

re: #151 Intrepid

It's friggin HUGE!

159 infidelia  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:15:32am

re: #142 Kenneth

Very true. Wright & his ilk simultaneously pump up the anger, and make it impossible to solve the real underlying issues. I watched a couple segments of the Carrier series on PBS. In it, there was a young African American woman from Athens, Georgia. She described how her parent were drug users, her father was a pimp, her mother had turned to prostitution, all her friends and family were getting pregnant by the time they were 16. She decide no way was that happening to her. She talked about how the Navy has given her opportunities she never dreamed of. Now this young woman works in the air traffic control room on the USS Nimitz. She didn't get there by succumbing to hatred and lies about America or blaming the whites for all her problems. Obama wants to talk about change? This young woman knows more about real change than that huckster ever could.

Wright and Sharpton and the rest can't make any political hay out of that young woman. All Wright would do is accuse her of "middleclassism".

160 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:15:33am
161 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:15:49am

re: #142 Kenneth

Very true. Wright & his ilk simultaneously pump up the anger, and make it impossible to solve the real underlying issues. I watched a couple segments of the Carrier series on PBS. In it, there was a young African American woman from Athens, Georgia. She described how her parent were drug users, her father was a pimp, her mother had turned to prostitution, all her friends and family were getting pregnant by the time they were 16. She decide no way was that happening to her. She talked about how the Navy has given her opportunities she never dreamed of. Now this young woman works in the air traffic control room on the USS Nimitz. She didn't get there by succumbing to hatred and lies about America or blaming the whites for all her problems. Obama wants to talk about change? This young woman knows more about real change than that huckster ever could.

Yeah, well, she's a babykiller. Wandered right off the Kumbayah reservation, doesn't count.

162 nyc redneck  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:15:51am

i love krauthammer. there's something sexy abt. smart men.

163 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:16:05am

re: #106 hermeneutics

Yes, but as we type, the WSJ surpasses the NYT in readership. The more objective financial papers are the ones that are NOT going under. The lib rags are plummeting.

* * *
Please check out the Wall Street Journal.com for great reporting of all kinds! They have the best writers around.

164 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:16:53am
165 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:17:40am

re: #164 taxfreekiller

AL GORE SNOW MAN CONTEST

That's not a bad idea.

166 hermeneutics  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:18:16am

Why isn't McCain doing better in the head-to-head matchups.

167 redheadredstate  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:19:30am

#166

Ummm, because it's McCain?

168 wrenchwench  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:19:34am

re: #139 Intrepid

Krauthammer is great, but I swear the man has the longest philtrum of anybody I've ever seen!

I knew there had to be a real word for that! The only word for it that I'd heard before was "jub-jub."

169 rinkus  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:20:32am

WHAT SPEECH ?

/memory hole

170 Kenneth  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:20:34am

re: #153 Fasternu426

Recruiters? Quick call Code Pink, this "child" needs protecting!

171 bosforus  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:20:57am

re: #155 Silhouette

That is 3 hits a minute, 16 hours a day, without a day off.

20 seconds per view? ADHD meets pr0n

I think the funniest thing about that story is that the guy wasn't fired, he was just demoted.

172 Honorary Yooper  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:21:28am

re: #152 taxfreekiller

And they say Shape Shifting is a myth.

You go Obama show'm.

Doesn't James T. Kirk have experience dealing with shape shifters? Where is he this morning?

173 Intrepid  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:21:45am

re: #166 hermeneutics

Why isn't McCain doing better in the head-to-head matchups.

I noticed that on Rasmussen - he's behind Obama a point and a half, and trails Hillary over three points.

But wasn't Pres Bush running close to Kerry in '04 until after the republican convention? Then Bush started pulling away, IIRC.

I'm betting that will happen for McCain. Rather, I'm hoping that will happen for McCain.

174 nyc redneck  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:22:22am

re: #149 MandyManners

I don't know about that. The WAB seems to be as invested in this race as her husband.

i think she's as bad a liability (or worse) as the rev and like the rev, he picked her. lol

the granny was was a gift to him. so he will dump anyone. it's an ugly trait. no allegiance, no reliability,
i'm mostly joking abt. michelle going under the bus. ha

175 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:23:13am

re: #149 MandyManners

I don't know about that. The WAB seems to be as invested in this race as her husband.

I apparently didn't get the memo on what "WAB" stands for. A little help? Someone?

176 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:23:38am

re: #157 Shr_Nfr

Its funny how most people do not understand the origin of the second amendment. It was derived from the "Bill of Rights" in England put in place at the time of the Glorious Revolution of 88 when they kicked James II out of the country and put his protestant daughter Mary and her husband William in charge of the country. The concept of the right to bear arms at the time was not one of having a militia to defend the state, it was that the right to bear arms was the right of the citizens to oppose the government and back it up with military force should the government trample on their other rights. Perhaps antiquated at this point in time, but perhaps not. But in any case, the right to cling to your guns goes back much further than the American bill of Rights.

Zackly!

177 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:24:44am

re: #174 nyc redneck

i'm mostly joking abt. michelle going under the bus

I would be kind of funny, though. "I had absolutely no idea about my wife's breathtaking narcissism or casual America-hatred. I completely reject her. Now... let me finish my waffle."

178 Ojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:24:50am

re: #159 infidelia

God bless that lady

179 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:24:58am

re: #162 nyc redneck

i love krauthammer. there's something sexy abt. smart men.

* * *
Especially knowing Dr. Krauthammer served in the Carter Administration -- when discussing dems, he knows what he's talking about.

180 nyc redneck  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:25:36am

re: #175 Occasional Reader

I apparently didn't get the memo on what "WAB" stands for. A little help? Someone?

yes, what does it stand for? WAB?

181 wrenchwench  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:25:49am

re: #175 Occasional Reader

I believe that's "whiney-ass b*tch."

182 hermeneutics  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:26:35am

re: #173 Intrepid

Usually Republicans close the gap at the very end. Don't know why.

183 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:26:46am

re: #181 wrenchwench

I believe that's "whiney-ass b*tch."

Ah. Thanks.

184 yma o hyd  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:26:49am

OT - but might be of interest:

[Link: timesonline.typepad.com...]

Still counting in London, but according to that TIMES-Blog, the Conservative Party thinks that Boris has got it!

185 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:26:59am

re: #174 nyc redneck

i think she's as bad a liability (or worse) as the rev and like the rev, he picked her. lol

the granny was was a gift to him. so he will dump anyone. it's an ugly trait. no allegiance, no reliability,
i'm mostly joking abt. michelle going under the bus. ha

I'm not. I'll re-post this if, uh... right. Hearing no objections:

I think I'm really on to something with my "Michelle is the Barack-Wright connection" thing. When asked if she was angry about Rev. Wright's speech, she said she was. But when Meredith Vieira asked if she felt the Rev. Wright had betrayed her husband, she dodged the question! She won't throw stones at the guy who's shellacking her husband!

I think that both Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright are a bit surprised at each other, because Michelle Obama has been the shuttle between them, creating the appearance of an alliance when really, there was none. Now they both thought they were getting a lot of mileage out of each other, but Michelle Obama may have been lubricating that relationship through some creative fibs.

So Barack Obama knows that Wright is the family pastor, and the Mrs. Obama has all sorts of good things to say about him. and Rev. Wright knows that Barack Obama is his pocket politician, and Michelle Obama reassures Wright that her husband is quietly "down with" all of that.

Once the Senator and the Reverend were forced to assess each other in public, the lies fell away. And between Michelle Obama, Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright, the loathsome Wright was the only one who told the truth! His cards are on the table--the Obamas still have much to hide.

186 nyc redneck  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:27:00am

re: #177 Occasional Reader

I would be kind of funny, though. "I had absolutely no idea about my wife's breathtaking narcissism or casual America-hatred. I completely reject her. Now... let me finish my waffle."

ROTFLMAO, you've made my day.

187 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:27:01am

re: #177 Occasional Reader

I would be kind of funny, though. "I had absolutely no idea about my wife's breathtaking narcissism or casual America-hatred. I completely reject her. Now... let me finish my waffle."

"I can no more disown my wife than I can disown my white grandmother.”

188 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:27:20am

re: #165 Occasional Reader

That's not a bad idea.

* * *
So when are these Dems that pushed corn subsidies for ethanol going to accept responsibility for causing GLOBAL FOOD SHORTAGES!

Cowards.

189 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:27:23am

re: #181 wrenchwench

I believe that's "whiney-ass b*tch."

Mandy coined it.

190 Intrepid  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:27:27am

re: #168 wrenchwench

I knew there had to be a real word for that! The only word for it that I'd heard before was "jub-jub."

Wikipedia says that the ancient Greeks believed that the Philtrum (or jub-jub) is one of the most erogenous spots on the body.

Charles K must have it goin' on then.

191 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:27:45am

re: #182 hermeneutics

Usually Republicans close the gap at the very end. Don't know why.

IIRC, because polls tend to be skewed toward reporting urban areas, and Republicans tend to do better in rural areas.

(Or, because Master Rove switches on the vote-fixin' machine at the very end... bwaaahahaha)

192 hermeneutics  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:27:59am

re: #179 alegrias

Krauthammer served under Carter? You're kidding! What was his position?

193 infidelia  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:28:16am

re: #182 hermeneutics

Usually Republicans close the gap at the very end. Don't know why.

Because the people on the margins who still retain some common sense wake up near the end of October and go "What the hell was I thinking?!?"

194 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:28:20am

re: #182 hermeneutics

Usually Republicans close the gap at the very end. Don't know why.

Skewed polls.

195 debutaunt  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:29:27am

re: #192 hermeneutics

Krauthammer served under Carter? You're kidding! What was his position?

The Ignored One.

196 infidelia  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:29:57am

re: #192 hermeneutics

Krauthammer served under Carter? You're kidding! What was his position?

Can't answer that without risking eviction for egregious pornographic reference...

197 Ma Sands  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:30:43am

re: Charles

the memory retention of soap dishes


I nominate that for rotating title..... :)

198 stratergic thinking  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:31:28am

re: #113 Occasional Reader

20,000 jobs shed... but even on NPR this morning, they were saying that 50,000 lost would be good news, relatively speaking.

This "crisis" is looking more and more like a speed bump.

OC,

this is going to be WAY more than a speed bump. We have a good couple of years until all of the ARM's have reset. The dollar is falling. Interest rates will HAVE to rise eventually. The ARM resets will cause some blood to flow. Just the ripple effect of the home prices dropping hasn't been felt yet. The slowdowns in vehicle sales is going to create quite a ripple across the economy. Where I'm at, Ford has already dumped a shift from explorer production. That's a lot of people not working and buying stuff. Not to mention the tax hit for the state.

Think of this as the bump before the enormous pothole.

199 infidelia  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:31:39am

re: #197 Ma Sands

re: Charles

I nominate that for rotating title..... :)

Seconded.

200 hermeneutics  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:32:25am

BBL

201 realwest  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:32:37am

Well as a North Carolinian I have to say I'm genuinely surprised that the polls are apparently showing Hillary beating Obama here on Tuesday.

This State should be a really "safe" state for Obama, based solely on the Black vote here (and before any of y'all call me a racist, you should know that Black Americans - Dems, anyway - have voted over 90% for Obama in EVERY primary).
Wonder if the Black Community is starting to get the idea that they are simply being used by certain elements of the Democrat Party?

202 J.S.  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:32:50am

re: #114 haakondahl

"I was just slack-jawed to see Rev. Wright dancing in a little circle, gettin' his groove on, shakin' his whatever...."

Yeah. I was reminded of that (gasp!) "dancing baby." Remember that thing? For the strong-minded, here's the YouTube clip...(as I recall, David Letterman made use of this hideousness for weeks on end.) Maybe the Clinton's could use an ad featuring an Obama "speech" with a piroetting "dancing baby/Rev wright" in the corner...Maybe that's what it would take to scare off the Obamatons...)

203 Fasternu426  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:33:16am

re: #170 Kenneth

They are coming at night to drag him out and teach him to kill! And cut his friggin hair!

Bwahahahaha!

204 HBob  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:33:45am

Not to mention the fact that Dingle-Barry sounded like a freaking robot when he gave it. He must have taken lessons from Hillary when she does her '1940s old school' monotone thing.

205 Picayune  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:35:03am

re: #69 Kragar:

Chauncey, "there will be growth in the Spring!"
Anti-Chauncey (BHO), "I hope these things che-nge, this Spring".

Picayune, "Life..... is a State of Mind", Being There.

206 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:35:18am

re: #192 hermeneutics

Krauthammer served under Carter? You're kidding! What was his position?

* * *
"...In 1978, Krauthammer quit medical practice to direct planning in psychiatric research for the Jimmy Carter administration, and began contributing to The New Republic magazine. During the presidential campaign of 1980, Krauthammer served as a speech writer to Vice President Walter Mondale.
In 1981, following the defeat of the Carter/Mondale ticket, Krauthammer began his journalistic career, joining The New Republic as a writer and editor. His New Republic writings won the 1984 "National Magazine Award for Essays and Criticism." In 1983, he began writing essays for Time magazine. In 1985, he began a weekly column for the Washington Post for which he won the 1987 Pulitzer Prize for commentary..."

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

207 infidelia  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:35:36am

The laundry calleth. BBFN. Try not to say the word "snow" too much, it's making the forsythia nervous.

208 Tarkloon  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:36:36am

re: #117 haakondahl

I thought they were OK? Hmmm... did they publish Savage Nation? That was an awful book with all of the true parts written on the dust jacket.

They publish a full spectrum of right wing books, from the smut to the golden.

209 Conspirator  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:37:58am

re: #15 coquimbojoe

I am amazed at the complete lack of logic of Obama's denunciations and Wright's supporters.

This mess alone proves to me that BHO should never be president.

And he thinks people don't like him because of his race or his name. As Emo Philips said: "Why be prejudiced against anyone because of their race or nationality or creed... when there're so many real reasons to hate others?"

There are plenty of real reasons not to vote for him.

210 realwest  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:40:46am

re: #159 infidelia Nah, all of the race-baiters would call her an "Aunt Jemima".
They can't make any money off of Black Americans who have climbed and - in her case, most certainly- clawed their way OUT of truly horrible life circumstances.

211 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:42:05am
212 MadJadBad  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:43:34am

I dunno, Barak supporters don't seem to worry too much about facts, his proposed policy or his Senate record. But then again, nobody's fainting at Obama speeches anymore.

213 redstateredneck  Fri, May 2, 2008 9:47:05am

re: #211 Occasional Reader

kangaroo tail soup


Not.very.appetizing.

214 Paul Atreides  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:01:21am
What were Obama’s three citations? Wright’s claim that AIDS was invented by the U.S. government to commit genocide. His praise of Louis Farrakhan as a great man. And his blaming Sept. 11 on American “terrorism.”

I'm guessing that he is okay with the racism and hatred.

No big whoop.

215 Paul Atreides  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:02:14am
But then again, nobody's fainting at Obama speeches anymore.

I don't know; the odor of brain flatulence can be pretty overpowering.

216 debutaunt  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:11:57am

re: #211 Occasional Reader

OT: Kangaroo... it's what's for dinner.

It's like ingesting too much caffeine - makes me very jumpy.

217 jamgarr  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:17:27am

re: #214 Paul Atreides

Do you realize that your seitch name means the same thing as Al Qaeda?

218 jamgarr  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:18:23am

re: #217 jamgarr

Do you realize that your seitch name means the same thing as Al Qaeda?


"Tell me of your homeworld, Usil"

219 Paul Atreides  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:30:14am

re: #217 jamgarr

It's racist to refer to me as Paul Usul Atreides. How am I ever going to become Emperor of the Known Universe with my name, you bitter, gun-totin', Bible-thumpin' cracker. I've got enough problems with the price of arugula going through the roof. Now, keep your mouth shut and let me enjoy my spice waffle.

Remember: CHANGE....HOPE

;-)

220 yochanan  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:43:10am

re: #51 MrSilverDragon

Both are acceptable according to the American Heritage dictionary, but that certainly puts a different spin on the original note!

BULL, LIPSTICK, OR FLOOD RETENTION DEVICE?

221 yochanan  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:50:07am

re: #124 NoLongerSilent

And why isn't more being made of the "typical white person" remark?

What exactly is a typical white person?
Italian?
Irish?
English?
German?
Latino?

It's clear to me that BHO is a racist, elitist narcissist. And those might be his best qualities. Clearly he is unfit to be POTUS.

T.W.P. here but none of the above we T.W.P'S come in all sorts of nationalities, religions, and/or genders. lol

222 kansas  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:55:08am

re: #67 blangwort

As contradictory as BHO is, he's going to win the election unless someone finds a picture of him standing naked in a closet with a boy scout and shaved German Shepard.

Then he'd win the NAMBLA vote.

223 Colin Nelson  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:04:44am

#146 Hermeneutics

Mathews wore very thin a long time ago - no pity

224 Iron Fist  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:04:49am

re: #133 Occasional Reader,

Give the guy a break. He'd probably just come from talking to Kleagle Robert C. Byrd. I can see where that would get him bitching about white n**gers. Although I would call them Krazy Krackers.

225 loppyd  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:08:12am

re: #211 Occasional Reader

OT: Kangaroo... it's what's for dinner.

Is that the other other white meat?

226 Avram  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:08:27am

I haven't read Krauthammer's article, but to be fair to Obama, there was another issue he cited for throwing Wright under the bus now, rather than before. The issue: Wright had the audacity to suggest that Obama's criticisms of his radical remarks had to do with his being a politician, which Obama took to mean that Wright was challenging his sincerity. Whatever you think of that as reason for Obama's making a clean break, at least it is a further reason (and, I think, a good one).

227 Paul Atreides  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:16:34am
Is that the other other white meat?

In the Obama household, would it be the other, other typical white meat?

228 nikis-knight  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:30:01am

re: #142 Kenneth

Very true. Wright & his ilk simultaneously pump up the anger, and make it impossible to solve the real underlying issues. I watched a couple segments of the Carrier series on PBS. In it, there was a young African American woman from Athens, Georgia. She described how her parent were drug users, her father was a pimp, her mother had turned to prostitution, all her friends and family were getting pregnant by the time they were 16. She decide no way was that happening to her. She talked about how the Navy has given her opportunities she never dreamed of. Now this young woman works in the air traffic control room on the USS Nimitz. She didn't get there by succumbing to hatred and lies about America or blaming the whites for all her problems. Obama wants to talk about change? This young woman knows more about real change than that huckster ever could.

And then Dems will turn and say, look how our country is racist by having so many minority soldiers. disgusting.

229 jamgarr  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:29:49pm

re: #219 Paul Atreides

Remember: CHANGE....HOPE

CHANGE....HOPE is the mind-killer
I will let it pass through me

230 offendi  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:17:59pm

"Hope" obviously can't win against "experience". The Clinton operatives are battle-hardened and simply don't give a s#%@ about convention, Hillary is going full bore which means if she can't win this time she will fatally damage Obama in 2008 for 2012, when she can run again.

Obama to be fair is basically a nice, intelligent guy, who in my opinion had significant issues in growing up with racial acceptance and being bi-racial if you read his book. His problem is that he has not developed the cojones that the national interest needs to effectively deal with the likes of Ahmadinejad, Putin, Meshaal. Hillz comes out point blank and says she will obliterate Iran if it attacks Israel, while Obama intellectualizes and focuses on dialog.

John McCain better not be Bob Dole redux, or republicans will wonder what bus hit them in 2008.

231 EE  Fri, May 2, 2008 4:56:03pm

This pastorgate affair throws a light on the inner Obama.

Obama's stories about what he knew and when still keep changing, and he still isn't telling the truth. Jeremiah Wright did not suddenly change. The things that he told the Press Club were those that were in the videos. This is a long-standing routine that Wright has, and for Obama to now pretend that he is surprised by what Wright said shows his lack of integrity, his lack of honesty. The issue is not dead, and should not be dead, because Obama is still lying about pastorgate.

Obama has made the claim that because he lacks experience (he has no record, he has no accomplishments) he makes up for it in judgment. But what kind of judgment does it take to have a 20 year close relationship with a mentor that is a purveyor of racism? This shows very poor quality of judgment.

Obama's claim to be a practitioner of "new politics" is revealed to be fraudulent with his sudden disowning of his 20-year mentor and close friend, who he said he could never disown, when Wright said the same things he has been saying for a long time, but in a way that gave access to the public.

This pastorgate affair, as it evolves, shows Obama to be a liar, a person lacking in judgment, and an opportunist, weak man, and a fraud. It has already uncovered this much about Obama's inner person, and it may yet reveal a lot more. Since Obama is a newbie on the national scene, and wants to go right to the presidency of the United States without prior vetting, it is important to investigate this pastorgate affair as much as possible in order to gain an insight into what Obama is about.

232 Clubsec  Fri, May 2, 2008 6:05:37pm

Was listening to Glen Beck with headset radio walking between buildings this AM. It was a voice track of one of Rev. Jerimah Wright's sermons. The man has lots of problems with perception (history ain't one of his strengths) and simply put ... he is a certifiable nut.
All I can say is wow.
That distant tapping sound you hear, is the sound of the hammer driving the nails into Obama's political coffin.
Now, were he a Republican, the MSM would have keelhauled him by now.

233 rick554  Sat, May 3, 2008 8:24:07am

Everyone repeat after me.....................................
CHANGE, HOPE, TRINITY Church, JEREMIAH, REZKO, GUN GRABBING............Barry Hussein Obama.
This rube is in WAY over his head and the DEM party is making fools out of itself. Good thing we have "Maverick" John McCain. WIN the WAR!


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