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Red Ken Tossed Out

Fri, May 2, 2008 at 10:39:36 am PDT

The reign of the terrorist-hugging, America-hating, communist mayor of London, “Red Ken” Livingstone, is history as the Tories chalk up a big electoral victory.

Senior Conservative sources said they would be “gobsmacked” if Mr Johnson did not win the mayoral contest and even Downing Street aides appear to have conceded that Ken Livingstone has lost. Confidence of a Tory win was boosted after one bookmaker announced it was paying out on a Boris Johnson victory hours before the official result is expected later this evening.

Paddy Power said the “mauling” Labour had received elsewhere in England and Wales suggested the Conservative candidate was on his way to City Hall.

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1 doppelganglander  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:40:00am

Yippee!

2 NoSubmission  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:40:50am

Hip Hop Hooray!

3 Peacekeeper  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:41:22am

BIG JOHNSON IS RIPPING US OFF!

4 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:41:28am

Red Ken shouldn't be too sad. If he learns Spanish he can be mayor of Caracas. Maybe Hugo could appoint him.

5 Jetpilot1101  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:41:39am

Outstanding! I nice bit of news on a dreary New England day!

6 Sharmuta  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:41:56am

Cool! Change I can actually believe in.

7 Bunker Buster  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:42:28am

It's about bloody time. DLTDHYWTGLSY.

8 haakondahl  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:42:42am

HIP! HIP!

9 Peacekeeper  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:42:49am

Something new for the Imams to piss and moan about.

10 Bunker Buster  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:42:52am

re: #8 haakondahl

HIP! HIP!

HOORAY!

11 NoSubmission  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:43:03am

Good riddance. How long was he in office? Seems like forever.

12 coquimbojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:43:27am

Boris Johnson seems a bit of a buffoon, but he's gotta be better that Livingstone.....

13 LionFromzion  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:43:36am

Pop the popcorn and watch the weasel's on the BBC tonight! Hooray!

14 jamsler  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:43:53am

Don't let the door hit you in the ass as you go, you bloody twit!

15 Maximu§  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:44:33am

OMG, we actually have some good news today....

16 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:44:58am

Piss off, you bugger!

17 winston06  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:44:59am

This is good news. Brits need to get their country back

18 JammieWearingFool  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:45:23am

Buh-bye.

I guess he just couldn't get enough of the transgender Islamist vote.

19 cinnabar  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:45:43am

While Red Ken was over the top, I wouldn't be surprised if the Tory mayor is just as much of a tool. The torries have been spouting all kinds of anti-american pro-terrorist drivel in their role of Labour opposition to Blair. I only hope I am wrong and we don't hear anything of this guy. Thank goodness Red Ken is packed off to wherever old commies go to moulder and die.

20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:46:17am

/dancing thru the streets handing out sweets

21 tommygum  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:46:33am

Ah, Ken. We hardly knew yee.

/

22 coquimbojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:47:10am

re: #18 JammieWearingFool

Buh-bye.

I guess he just couldn't get enough of the transgender Islamist vote.

George Galloway has got that demographic locked up.

23 geematt  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:47:21am

Can you imagine the meltdown in the newsrooms as the returns came in? Whole lotta heads splodin'!

24 JammieWearingFool  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:47:26am

Any word how that freak George Galloway fared?

25 Tigger2005  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:47:58am

Is there hope for the Brits yet?

Please don't tease us, mates.

26 Citizen Duck  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:48:26am

Ah, so sweet! Going to be a great weekend :)

27 bill-tb  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:48:29am

I blame global warming .... All increased CO2 does is raise taxes :-)

28 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:48:44am

But can Boris reverse Britain's four-wife per mahomedan welfare cash payments?

It's time more clear eyed folks stepped up to the plate & cut welfare cheats off.

Margaret Thatcher's spirit must live.

29 shug  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:48:45am

Change!

30 bosforus  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:49:32am

My ancestors were Tories. Glad they've finally shaped up.

31 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:49:44am

re: #12 coquimbojoe

Boris Johnson seems a bit of a buffoon, but he's gotta be better that Livingstone.....

* * *
Hope he's not a Jesse Ventura type who ends up nuttier than when elected.

32 Bloodnok  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:50:19am

I didn't know Red Ken was a newt fancier. Somewhere PG Wodehouse is smiling....

From Wiki: "He is known for his enthusiasm for keeping and breeding newts."

33 LanceKates  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:50:29am

As horrible as "Red Ken" is, what do we know about the guy who won?

I'd hate for an anti-american communist to be replaced with a quasi-anti-american socialist...

Not that the mayor of London has much sway in American foreign policy..

34 flydiveski  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:50:31am

Just curious, is this guy's wife named Natasha? Labour should have run Moose and Squirrel against them, rather than some moron like Livingstone.

35 FrogMarch  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:50:58am

Hopefully Red Ken can retire in style with all of that filthy lucre he successfully snatched from his "oil for food" glory days.

36 Kenneth  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:51:00am

re: #21 tommygum

Blimey! Now that I've got the sack, you blokes mind if I stop 'er for a cuppa?

37 MJ  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:51:03am

He can now join Dr Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the Jihadi preacher and Jew-hater and move Qatar.

38 formercorpsman  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:51:08am

Would any lizard from Britain like to opine as to why this occurring?

Up front, I am not well aware of London politics, but do you think the voters are concerned about terrorism?

Any other issues?

39 Silhouette  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:51:39am

Yay. May he be thrice Lord Mayor of London.

40 NoSubmission  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:52:30am

re: #34 flydiveski

Just curious, is this guy's wife named Natasha? Labour should have run Moose and Squirrel against them, rather than some moron like Livingstone.

Moose and Squirrel. Now that was funny.

41 Kenneth  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:52:56am

re: #33 LanceKates

The new mayor of London is a Tory, but he's not much of a conservative. An improvement but not a huge one.

42 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:53:15am

re: #33 LanceKates

As horrible as "Red Ken" is, what do we know about the guy who won?

I'd hate for an anti-american communist to be replaced with a quasi-anti-american socialist...

Not that the mayor of London has much sway in American foreign policy..

* * *
London is a great center of mahomedans, think of all the Indians & Pakistanis who live there with dual citizenship. Saudis too.
Karl Marx lived there & wrote his awful stuff.

43 Lady Mondegreen  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:53:56am
a newt fancier


Some orange juice for Mr. Spink-Bottle Livingstone

44 macofromoc  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:54:47am

I can't believe there's no picture of him in that cat costume licking milk off that other reality contestant. That should always accompany any red ken story..

45 Bloodnok  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:55:14am

re: #43 Lady Mondegreen

Some orange juice for Mr. Spink-Bottle Livingstone

precisely!

46 Sharmuta  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:55:26am

Based on the election results from all over Britain and Wales, it looks like the people are fed up with business as usual. They've sent a resounding message, and, thankfully, they didn't do it by electing fascists like they did in Rome.

47 LanceKates  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:55:45am

re: #41 Kenneth

The new mayor of London is a Tory, but he's not much of a conservative. An improvement but not a huge one.

So it isn't as much of a celebration of getting a conservative there, just a celebration to be rid of Red Ken.

Ok. That's what I was wondering.

48 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:56:12am

OT: Did you see where the suspect UN World Food Program is sitting on billions, yet pleading for more $$$!

49 wolfie  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:56:18am

re: #32 Bloodnok

I didn't know Red Ken was a newt fancier. Somewhere PG Wodehouse is smiling....

From Wiki: "He is known for his enthusiasm for keeping and breeding newts."

Dang! At first reading I thought you meant Newt, as in Gingrich.

50 Squirrelguy  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:56:44am

re: #40 NoSubmission

Moose and Squirrel. Now that was funny.

No it wasn't.

51 chinesearithmetic  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:56:44am

The people who laugh at us behind their hands beat the people who spit in our faces, I'm so excited already.

52 Kenneth  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:57:11am

re: #38 formercorpsman

All across Europe the move is away from the socialists. Terrorism, immigration, high taxes, unemployment... the left is getting blamed for all these things.

53 winston06  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:57:26am

re: #46 Sharmuta

I am just a bit afraid of the head of Tory party Mr. cameron. He seems to be a naive person. Hopefully I am wrong

54 tommygum  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:57:35am

"I send lady spy to moose and squirrel with package which is really bomb. Door gets stuck. She can't get out. Who gets blown up? Me." Boris Badinoff. Local 3, Villians, Thieves and Scoundrels Union.l

55 see bs  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:57:38am

.......Another one bites the dust......

56 Squirrelguy  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:57:50am

re: #52 Kenneth

All across Europe the move is away from the socialists. Terrorism, immigration, high taxes, unemployment... the left is getting blamed for all these things.

Well duh! The left IS to blame for all of it.

57 formercorpsman  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:58:11am

re: #52 Kenneth

Kenneth, are you accross the pond?

If I'm not right back, I'm not being rude, just working.

58 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, May 2, 2008 10:58:56am

re: #48 alegrias

OT: Did you see where the suspect UN World Food Program is sitting on billions, yet pleading for more $$$!

It takes lots of money to let that food rot, do you have any idea how expensive warehousing rotting food is?

59 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:00:32am

re: #52 Kenneth

All across Europe the move is away from the socialists. Terrorism, immigration, high taxes, unemployment... the left is getting blamed for all these things.

* * *
Zapatero's re-election in March disproves your claim, unfortunately.
Where are the brave Europeans supporting NATO actually FIGHTING terrorists in Afghanistan? We just had to send in US Marines to Helmand Province, where Prince Harry served until recently.

And here in the US, the left blames Pres. Bush for all these things.

60 mrkwong  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:01:18am

Damn, this is sweet. Okay, it's not like the Brits just elected Berlusconi, but even a sidestep to the right is a healthy measure - and it's nationwide.

Whatever help Blair was in Iraq, 'New Labour' had a whole lot of Old Labour troglodytes embedded therein, and the rest of the Labour government has been beavering away full-time on the surveillance nanny-state.

Now it's time to go point out to the Livingstone acolytes on the SF Board of Supervisors, with their congestion-charge plans and their tongues firmly up George Galloway's ass when he came to town, what just happened to their hero.

61 LanceKates  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:01:50am

re: #58 CyanSnowHawk

not to mention the security you need to hire to keep the starving people away from the food.


I seem to remember another group of people with food for the poor who would not let them have it.

He blamed America. They shot down one of our blackhawks.

62 JammieWearingFool  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:01:58am

re: #44 macofromoc

I can't believe there's no picture of him in that cat costume licking milk off that other reality contestant. That should always accompany any red ken story..

That's was Galloway.

63 Sharmuta  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:02:10am

re: #53 winston06

“I think these results are not just a vote against Gordon Brown and his government, I think they are a vote of positive confidence in the Conservative Party,” he said. “I think people see a party that has changed for the better, that is united, that’s got a strong team of leaders and increasingly they are looking to us, trusting us, to speak out on the issues they really care about - in terms of improving schools and improving our hospitals and dealing with crime on our streets.

This is from Mr. Cameron- it doesn't sound naive to me- sounds like he and his party have a better idea what the electorate is really looking for in terms of the issues that are important to them. But maybe it's because I see the term "crime in our streets" as code, since the J word is verboten.

64 macofromoc  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:02:23am

Oh, my bad your right

65 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:03:27am

re: #58 CyanSnowHawk

It takes lots of money to let that food rot, do you have any idea how expensive warehousing rotting food is?

* * *
You're right. Somehow, I think the UN Food Program doesn't spend our money on warehousing "food" for Phakestinians for example.

Remember how lizards calculated they were shipping hundreds of pounds of "flour" per person--highly suspect, are the UN Relief Workers/Food program people.

66 Kenneth  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:03:33am

re: #57 formercorpsman

Nah, I'm up in Canada. But I try to keep up with the news from the motherland.

67 maddogg[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:03:56am
68 coquimbojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:04:17am

re: #62 JammieWearingFool

That's was Galloway.

I have been looking through British papers, but haven't found out if Galloway was given the boot...Any info on that? Labour lost 300 seats, the Tories picked up 278, so that's better....

69 wolfie  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:04:21am

re: #53 winston06

I am just a bit afraid of the head of Tory party Mr. cameron. He seems to be a naive person. Hopefully I am wrong

From what I've read (not much!), it sounds like he is less of a conservative than even McCain. But I still think these electoral trends are good, in that they show a rejection of the way the left is handling things.
But if the conservative parties of Europe do not offer some kind of improvement, what then? (I hate to think about it.)

70 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:05:08am

re: #65 alegrias

* * *
You're right. Somehow, I think the UN Food Program doesn't spend our money on warehousing "food" for Phakestinians for example.

Remember how lizards calculated they were shipping hundreds of pounds of "flour" per person--highly suspect, are the UN Relief Workers/Food program people.

Of course they needed tons of "flour" per person. The ammo hidden under the flour is heavy.

71 mrkwong  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:07:44am

re: #59 alegrias

* * *
Zapatero's re-election in March disproves your claim, unfortunately.
Where are the brave Europeans supporting NATO actually FIGHTING terrorists in Afghanistan? We just had to send in US Marines to Helmand Province, where Prince Harry served until recently.

And here in the US, the left blames Pres. Bush for all these things.

Okay, it's inconsistent. The French took a healthy step, the Italians just mopped most of the Left right out of national government and gave Berlusconi the tightest control he's had yet. We need to be careful because in parts of the East the 'conservative' choice is the old Communists.

The Left in the US (and everywhere) blames President Bush for their smelly socks and genital warts, so who cares what they think?

72 nyc redneck  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:07:49am

now, this is some change we can get behind.

73 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:08:01am

re: #70 Kosh's Shadow

Of course they needed tons of "flour" per person. The ammo hidden under the flour is heavy.

* * *
Kosh, exactly. And yesterday some Phakestinian who worked for the UN relief outfit as a school headmaster was outed as a terrorist too, after dying in his 'metal' shop hit by Israeli strikes.

Send them packets of seeds to grow their own eats in those greenhouses left behind by the Quartet.

74 Fasternu426  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:08:20am

I dunno why it made me think of this....
Bye Bye

75 Pope Insouciance IV  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:08:47am

re: #62 JammieWearingFool

That's was Galloway.

Good thing my garbage pail was nearby. It caught all the vomit.

76 nyc redneck  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:09:40am

re: #75 Pope Insouciance IV

Good thing my garbage pail was nearby. It caught all the vomit.

i bet even saddam was repulsed by him.

77 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:09:57am
78 loppyd  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:11:09am

I love the smell of a good mauling in the morning.

79 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:11:36am

George Galloway's American nemesis, the lovely Minnesota Republican Senator Norm Coleman, may still beat the not so funny leftist tax cheat Al Franken!

Please support Norm Coleman's bid for re-election in Minnesota--he was courageous and outed the UN Oil For Food cheaters & debated icky George Galloway.

80 coquimbojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:11:49am

re: #62 JammieWearingFool

That's was Galloway.


The respect party doesn't list him as a win.... Who knows, they haven't listed him as a loss either.

81 Earl  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:12:11am

No doubt Toronto mayor David Miller is crying now that his political mentor has been deservedly turfed out in London.

Note to Miller: PC-suffused leftist lunacy on the Council of a major city only is tolerated for so long (too long in Livingstone's (spit) case).

82 jetpilot1101  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:12:14am

re: #79 alegrias

George Galloway's American nemesis, the lovely Minnesota Republican Senator Norm Coleman, may still beat the not so funny leftist tax cheat Al Franken!

Please support Norm Coleman's bid for re-election in Minnesota--he was courageous and outed the UN Oil For Food cheaters & debated icky George Galloway.

Do you really think Al Franken can win?

83 Sharmuta  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:12:30am

re: #69 wolfie

But if the conservative parties of Europe do not offer some kind of improvement, what then? (I hate to think about it.)

Then the fascists try to fill the void.

84 J.S.  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:12:32am

re: #68 coquimbojoe

George Galloway right now is out and about campaiging...On April 22, 2008 he was hit on the head with a stress ball (the attacker was arrested, and Galloway was hospitalized.)

85 BulgarWheat  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:12:56am

Red Ken, kicked to the curb like a cur. How profoundly good and right that is, how satisfying.

Let the celebration begin London, free'd from the jihai-shill, liberty hating communist, boot licking scum bucket, Red Ken.

Fire up the grills and open the taps. Big fun in Britain tonight!

86 mrkwong  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:13:04am

re: #68 coquimbojoe

I have been looking through British papers, but haven't found out if Galloway was given the boot...Any info on that? Labour lost 300 seats, the Tories picked up 278, so that's better....

This was local council elections, don't think it had anything to do with Commons seats except insofar as it shrinks Labour's national base for the next parliamentary elections (which I gather Gordon The Useless can stall for a while.)

Galloway sits for Tower Hamlets, which pretty much seems to be Islamabad-on-the-Thames anyway, so it'd be hard to get the guy out with anything but a large canvas bag and a CIA jet.

87 Pro-Bush Canuck  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:13:17am

I could never get a handle on that guy. He seemed to be having too much fun to be taking it all seriously, but who the hell really knows? Maybe he was the next Josef Stalin, or maybe he was like the Russian "boomer" commander (now retired) I've come to know here in Canada, who would never have launched, and who reveled in the absurdity of it all.

88 coquimbojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:13:48am

re: #84 J.S.

George Galloway right now is out and about campaiging...On April 22, 2008 he was hit on the head with a stress ball (the attacker was arrested, and Galloway was hospitalized.)

Read that. Felt schadenfruede.

89 Kenneth  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:14:07am

re: #81 Earl

You hear Miller has asked the province to give him greater executive powers? He can't stand having to work with the elected city councilors.

90 FrogMarch  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:14:20am

re: #44 macofromoc

I can't believe there's no picture of him in that cat costume licking milk off that other reality contestant. That should always accompany any red ken story..

That was Galloway and I was thinking of Galloway too. regarding my post # 35.

91 coquimbojoe  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:14:35am

re: #86 mrkwong

This was local council elections, don't think it had anything to do with Commons seats except insofar as it shrinks Labour's national base for the next parliamentary elections (which I gather Gordon The Useless can stall for a while.)

Galloway sits for Tower Hamlets, which pretty much seems to be Islamabad-on-the-Thames anyway, so it'd be hard to get the guy out with anything but a large canvas bag and a CIA jet.

There's always hoping....

92 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:15:12am
93 mrkwong  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:15:42am

re: #86 mrkwong

Galloway sits for Tower Hamlets, which pretty much seems to be Islamabad-on-the-Thames anyway, so it'd be hard to get the guy out with anything but a large canvas bag and a CIA jet.

Quoting one's own post, what bad form...

And for what it's worth, if anyone wants to establish a charitable foundation to create a comfortable but completely secure and isolated island onto which we can place Jimmy Carter, Ramsey Clark, and perhaps a few others like Mr Galloway, I'll throw in $100.

94 wolfie  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:15:59am

re: #83 Sharmuta

Then the fascists try to fill the void.

That is what I fear.
If the center cannot hold,........

95 DesertSage  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:16:35am

OK, finally Red Ken is gone!

/And some people still insist that there is no God.

96 Pro-Bush Canuck  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:18:39am

re: #89 Kenneth

So what is going on with Lizard luncheons now? I've missed at least 4 or 5, but my schedule should permit my attendance during the glorious Spring season in Toronto...

Haven't seen WriterMom online for a bit, but that's probably since I'm barely here myself these days.

97 wolfie  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:19:51am

re: #93 mrkwong

Quoting one's own post, what bad form...

And for what it's worth, if anyone wants to establish a charitable foundation to create a comfortable but completely secure and isolated island onto which we can place Jimmy Carter, Ramsey Clark, and perhaps a few others like Mr Galloway, I'll throw in $100.

You have an intriguing idea there. We set up the island, and then we invite all of these Elders (ahem!) to a giant Peace & Justice Conference. Then we leave 'em there, where they can blabber perpetually among themselves, "solving" all of the world's problems.

98 Kenneth  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:20:22am

re: #96 Pro-Bush Canuck

WriterMom has been in Israel. She was posting from there a few days ago. She should be back in Toronto soon. Yeah, we should get together & shoot the breeze.

99 JammieWearingFool  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:20:40am

re: #68 coquimbojoe

I have been looking through British papers, but haven't found out if Galloway was given the boot...Any info on that? Labour lost 300 seats, the Tories picked up 278, so that's better....

This is all I could find on him.

In London, voters were also electing the 25 members of the London Assembly, the body that holds the mayor to account.

Eleven of its members are elected by proportional representation – raising the possibility that George Galloway, the anti-war Respect MP for Bethnal Green and Bow and former Celebrity Big Brother contestant, could win a seat.

There is also a chance the far-right British National Party could gain its first seat.

100 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:20:48am

re: #97 wolfie

You have an intriguing idea there. We set up the island, and then we invite all of these Elders (ahem!) to a giant Peace & Justice Conference. Then we leave 'em there, where they can blabber perpetually among themselves, "solving" all of the world's problems.

Excellent idea!

101 Frank_Mtl  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:20:49am

Great!

102 kynna  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:21:12am

Well, this is happy news, but I've been bothered by some of the Tory statements as well. It seems nobody over there truly has the UK's best interests at heart. Kinda like our own politicians. Sadly. :(

103 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:22:03am

re: #97 wolfie

You have an intriguing idea there. We set up the island, and then we invite all of these Elders (ahem!) to a giant Peace & Justice Conference. Then we leave 'em there, where they can blabber perpetually among themselves, "solving" all of the world's problems.

It can be run by the UN. In fact, we should move the UN there as well.

104 Pro-Bush Canuck  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:22:31am

re: #98 Kenneth

WriterMom has been in Israel. She was posting from there a few days ago. She should be back in Toronto soon. Yeah, we should get together & shoot the breeze.

My "axis" is Bay/College through to Queen West, around Spadina, pretty much daily. I'm also in Dallas and New York for a few days this month.

105 Yankee Division Son  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:23:48am

BRAVO CHAPS! Well Done!

106 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:23:51am

re: #82 jetpilot1101

Do you really think Al Franken can win?

* * *
Minnesotans can be notoriously moonbatty, "progressive" leftist laborites. When their previous pro-marxist Senator Paul Wellstone died in a plane crash, democrats ranted at his wake like at a San Francisco rally. The backlash elected Senator Coleman.

It would be a travesty if Al Franken were elected to the Senate from Minnesota to continue taking liberties with our country, after he crashed AIR AMERICA using your tax dollars.

107 wolfie  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:24:40am

re: #103 Kosh's Shadow

An absolutely splendid idea! Splendid!

108 Sharmuta  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:24:44am

re: #82 jetpilot1101

Do you really think Al Franken can win?

The latest poll shows Coleman in a comfortable lead, then there's the latest scandal. The MN Senate race for dems is starting to mirror the national race as two other candidates are considering not letting weird al walk away with this nomination.

109 alegrias  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:24:46am

re: #83 Sharmuta

Then the fascists try to fill the void.

* * *
You know, there are centrists & moderates in this world.

110 Pro-Bush Canuck  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:24:53am

re: #105 Yankee Division Son

BRAVO CHAPS! Well Done!

Heh.

Lot's more where he came from. It does feel good for the bad guys to lose ground now and then, however.

111 Paul Atreides  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:25:09am

He needs to go live with the terrorists he loves so much. As with all liberal scum, he likes his comfortable living too much to do so.

112 Kenneth  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:25:13am

re: #104 Pro-Bush Canuck

I'm languishing in Scarborostan, but I am happy to get downtown for lunch.

113 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:25:44am

Afternoon, Lizards.

As usual, poster Ayatollah Khomeini (sp?) had a great post on this topic this morning - DT #535 and I'll paste it here.

*applause*

Europe Shifts

In the last few years Europe has taken a hard turn to the right. The expected accent of Boris Johnson, a charming witty train wreck of a Tory (I mean that in the nicest way) to oust Red Ken Livingstone as Mayor of London is a case in point.

No one is really talking about why this shift in political tastes. Of the largest countries in Europe, only Spain has a socialist government. Sarkozy, Prodi and Merkel are almost certain to be joined soon by Brittain's Cameron.

The reason for this sea change can be summed up in a single four letter word: fear. At hoem and abroad, Europe feels tremendous insecurity. The impact of unchecked immigration, lawlessness on the streets of Europe and the threat of domestic terrorism has finally sunk in. In Europe you are now free to express any opinion so long as it is not critical of the EU or Islam. Thank you Labour said the voters, we are now Tories. The daughters of Britain are prostituted by illegal immigrants, the sons are beaten to a pulp for asking directions in Bradford. Even the Austrian basement dungeon story resonates with European voters who see criminals being tapped on the wrist while people are afraid in their own homes.

The socialists have zero credibility regarding crime and national security. The Brown government is busy planning to build whole new cities for immigrants while the cost of a home has become utterly unaffordable for the average Brit. Then there is the small matter of a Police Departement that has become a useless bureaucracy, spending 30% of their time filling out forms from the simplest arrest. Meanwhile, up from a mere 500 (500!) residents of Britain so dangerous they require permanent Police Counter Terror monitoring are now 2400. Meanwhile, Labour appointed judges refuses to deport open supporters of Bin Laden for fear of what might happen to them if they were no longer safe in the UK. The danger such a person represents to the citizens that pay the Judge's salary are less important than the right of al Qaeda to have secure operations in the UK.

The Tories are slated for a landslide because, as conservatives, they can speak of national and domestic security instinctively. They might even win every seat in Parliament by promising tough minimum sentencing, expedited unconditional deportation of noncitizen terror suspects and limits on immigration. Rudy Giuliani could make a fortune advising the Tories on how to clean up the streets.

The relationship between Islam and its host society in Britain is far and away a central part of these issues. Asian thugs abusing the British system while supporting Jihad is Labour's gift to the voters. Stating flat out that there is one system of law in the UK and it is not Sharia is what voters want to hear. Immigrants who wish to be loyal British subjects are welcome, there is such a thing as good immigration. People wishing to adopt the social contract of the host society can be welcome, people who aren't should not be allowed to come.

As for Boris Johnson, a heartfelt congratulations on flushing away the crapulous leftist bigot, Livingstone. No finer political turd has ever been expulsed to the sewer of beneath contempt former officeholders.

For now PM Brown remains in power but his days in power are to be very short in number.

114 mrkwong  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:26:51am

re: #97 wolfie

You have an intriguing idea there. We set up the island, and then we invite all of these Elders (ahem!) to a giant Peace & Justice Conference. Then we leave 'em there, where they can blabber perpetually among themselves, "solving" all of the world's problems.

Once the forum's established I think it only appropriate that UN headquarters should be relocated there as well.

Oh well, not that I've ever been a particularly active poster around here, but I think it's time to bug out for the moment - there's not appropriate alcohol in the house with which to toast the chapping of Red Ken's ass.

115 Sharmuta  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:28:02am

re: #109 alegrias

* * *
You know, there are centrists & moderates in this world.

I'm aware of that, thank you very much. It's just disturbing when fascists win elections.

116 NY Nana  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:28:31am

re: #81 Earl

It's strange, but the odious Miller bears a slight resemblance, I think, to Boris Johnson. Poor Boris!

117 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:28:32am

A conservative won?! Clearly the UK needs media reform!

/US LLL solution

118 Pro-Bush Canuck  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:28:34am

I can only assume that American nuclear bombers are built more reliably than American computer operating systems.

Microsoft Vista was supposed to be an improvement over XP...

That's the general idea, right?

Anyhoo, gotta reboot. Back in 5 minutes... or 7, or 10... With this pig of an OS, who knows?

Seriously though, if you're on XP now (SP2) stay there for a while.

119 Yankee Division Son  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:30:08am

re: #110 Pro-Bush Canuck

Heh.

Lot's more where he came from. It does feel good for the bad guys to lose ground now and then, however.

Indeed. He was quite the loon though, and deserved to be tossed out.

120 ROP?LOL  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:34:03am

re: #82

Do you think Al Franken can win?

In Minnesota? Why not. They elected a muslim (Keith Ellison) to the House.

121 wishbone  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:34:30am

re: #38 formercorpsman

Would any lizard from Britain like to opine as to why this occurring?

Up front, I am not well aware of London politics, but do you think the voters are concerned about terrorism?

Any other issues?

Well, seeing as you asked nicely :)

Livingstone is getting royally shafted for a few reasons, but chiefly among these are A: The fact that people are genuinely pissed off with him and his policies regarding his 'vision' of London, and B: as a consequential response to the Labour government and Gordon Brown who, in the last few months, have managed to absolutely piss off just about the majority of the British citizenry. Have a look in the news for the '10p tax band' controversy. They really fucked up with that one.

We (Britons.....I'm from up North, though I'm sure the Southies would agree) have concerns about terrorism but, just as I'm sure the same is true for all of us, it's not the only concern we have. From a personal perspective, all I did was grow up watching one kind of terrorist give way for another, so it's something we're sort of used to. It's important and bloody scary yes, but we deal with it as best we know how. At least these days, I'm not fighting every other weekend with idiots who want to kick the shit out of my friends because they were either 'Orange bastards' or 'Fiannian c***s'

Ah.... memories..... But I do digress. No....it's politics overall that's seen Ken lashed mate and bloody good riddance too.

It's now been reported that the lashing that Labour got in the local elections has seen them take their worst hiding for 40 years. Let me tell you...... That is a statistic that has Labour filling its' pants. They have less than two years until the next general election and they have immense amounts of damage control to do.

It's all rather jolly, really

122 wolfie  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:34:32am

re: #109 alegrias

* * *
You know, there are centrists & moderates in this world.

But if they are so wrapped up in PC that they cannot or will not address the problems, where then will the voter turn? The more conservative parties need to show the electorate that they can turn things around, that they can at least move in a better direction. If it's just going to be the same old leftism,..........................well, let's hope not.

123 nyc redneck  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:37:15am

re: #92 song_and_dance_man

Now if we could only get rid of B. Hussein.

let's just stand aside and watch him bring himself down.

124 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:40:21am

Let's remember some of Ken's key achievements

1) Giving the red carpet treatment to terrorist-loving, misogynist, homophobic, Islamofascist imam Yusuf Qaradawi.

2) Using London's poor in a publicity stunt for Hugo Chavez

3) Leaving an official function, drunk, he called a journalist a Nazi. When the journalist revealed he was Jewish, Ken called him a "concentration camp guard"

4) Confirming that his remarks were offensive to Jews, but refusing to apologise for them.

5) Saying "why don't you go back to Iran?" to a Jewish businessman of Iraqi descent.

6) Planning to charge people $15 a day to drive in London.


Goodbye Ken - you evil, odious bastard.

London HATES you

125 Jaydee  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:41:53am

The results may not even be available until tomorrow, so no one knows yet if that nasty wretch has been booted.

Everything crossed here in the UK, that this soab gets to sling his hook.

126 Miss Molly  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:42:31am

Congratulations to our special friends the Brits. This is going in the right direction. Glasses raised all around!

127 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:45:37am
128 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:45:43am

Ken isn't the only leftist to get his arse kicked by Britain. The Labour party suffered their biggest electoral defeat since the 1940's in local elections, losing over 400 counselors (300 of them to a resurgent Conservative party)

It's just so lovely to see the leftards being so dramatically rejected by Britain.

129 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:46:16am

re: #126 Miss Molly

Congratulations to our special friends the Brits. This is going in the right direction. Glasses raised all around!

xxx

thank you

130 nyc redneck  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:48:18am

re: #113 Miss Trixie

thanks for that encouraging post. miss trix.

131 Colonel Panik  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:48:56am

I'm going to have to swing by my favorite British pub here in AZ, Churchill's in Chandler to have a pint of Old Speckled Hen to celebrate the demise of Red Ken.

SOD OFF SWAMPY!

132 ubernerd  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:49:57am

I have made romance explosion upon myself!

JAGEMASH!

133 mossley  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:50:05am

And I was just reading a London paper's story the other day about how it was going to be such a close race. And they favored Red Ken. Hehe

134 Sand Panda  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:50:10am

Boris is an intelligent man who plays the buffoon - whereas "Red Ken" is a buffoon attempting to pass himself off as an intelligent man.

135 jaydee  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:50:17am

I am not going to build up my hopes on this one!

Although its been helluva day for Labour Local Councils (hee hee), but then London is whole different ball game.

What I would like to know, is why is it taking so long for the results to be announced? When there is a general election it doesn't take this long. Strange indeedy.

136 tommygum  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:51:18am

re: #82 jetpilot1101

Do you really think Al Franken can win?

With cheating, anything is possible.

137 Sand Panda  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:53:03am

re: #135 jaydee

According to Tessa Jowell, they are experiencing technical difficulties with some of the counting machines.

/for those who set any stock by what Ms Jowell claims...

138 wishbone  Fri, May 2, 2008 11:59:54am

re: #137 Sand Panda

According to Tessa Jowell, they are experiencing technical difficulties with some of the counting machines.

In a desperate bid to hold onto his seat of power, Livingstone has infected the firmware of the counting machines with a highly effective virus which has caused the machines to go on strike.

Apparently, the virus is the original firmware from the same machine that Gordon Brown used for ten years to work out the nation's budget as Chancellor.

139 Fenboy  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:00:23pm

The trouble is that the tories keep being tempted to make lemonade of labour's problems re: Iraq. Once elected however, they wouldn't follow up on any of their criticism.

The supposedly centrist Liberal Democrats on the other hand have been fully swallowed by the anti-american, antiwar nutjobs.

140 Sounder  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:01:09pm

Yes!

141 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:01:30pm

re: #135 jaydee

.What I would like to know, is why is it taking so long for the results to be announced? When there is a general election it doesn't take this long. Strange indeedy.

A question they've been asking Ken's Marxist comrade Mugabe.

I wonder if Ken will declare martial law?

142 nyc redneck  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:01:50pm

re: #127 song_and_dance_man

Hey, I don't mind helping.

oh, i wouldn't stand in your way.
it's just so fascinating to see this exalted 'messiah' self-destruct

143 wishbone  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:02:34pm

re: #139 Fenboy

Centrists my arse....... They're nutty as a fruitcake and absolutely useless to boot. The only centre they occupy is that of their own little reality.

144 nyc redneck  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:04:47pm

re: #131 Colonel Panik

I'm going to have to swing by my favorite British pub here in AZ, Churchill's in Chandler to have a pint of Old Speckled Hen to celebrate the demise of Red Ken.

SOD OFF SWAMPY!

what a grand idea. i love old speckled hen. it comes in a very nice bottle, too, well suited as a vase for a afew daffodils.

145 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:05:20pm

Shit - this is nerve-wracking. The news programmes are convinced Ken has lost, but I remember the exit polls suggesting that Kerry would beat Bush in 2004.

Pleaser, please, please let Ken really be gone.

146 wishbone  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:08:53pm

re: #145 uptight

Here........ the last update from EUreferendum on the voting

19.58 This may be my last update as there is some paint out there that will not dry unless I watch it. At 19.51 across London only 86.90 per cent of the votes had been counted with constituencies where Livingstone was leading on first preferences well ahead. Most of them are in the nineties and will complete the count very soon. Whether that means the turn-out was low there we do not know as the figures as opposed to the overall picture are still unavailable.

Boris is still leading in eight constituencies on first preferences as against six for Ken, with Brian Paddick and Sian Berry nowhere. Incidentally, pretty little Sian has turned up here now and is looking a little grim. Her supporters are looking marginally less civilized than the BNP. A few others have been sighted - English Democrats, Christian Alliance, the odd Tory and Labour and Winston McKenzie the independent candidate is here, looking as natty as ever.

My guess is that a declaration at ten o'clock is optimistic. I shall now disappear into the West End and update everyone on the results when I get home. Assuming I can tear myself away from that drying paint. Over and out.

Shouldn't be long now

147 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:10:15pm

The London Evening Standard has "Boris is Mayor" as its headline this evening.

confident!

148 wishbone  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:12:16pm

re: #147 uptight

Hehe......Mate..... The bookies have paid out on Boris. It's easier getting a tax rebate than it is getting a payout before absolute confirmation of a bet with them.

149 londonpride  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:14:08pm

re: #9 Peacekeeper

Something new for the Imams to piss and moan about.

And a fat lot of good the "Islamic" vote did him

150 londonpride  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:15:08pm

re: #17 winston06

This is good news. Brits need to get their country back

Its a start and we will keep on pushing

151 Cygnus  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:15:33pm

re: #11 NoSubmission

Good riddance. How long was he in office? Seems like forever.

One week in office would seem like forever with this git.

152 londonpride  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:16:13pm

re: #24 JammieWearingFool

Any word how that freak George Galloway fared?

Last I heard the BNP had more votes - so he must be doing very badly

153 Cygnus  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:18:45pm

re: #62 JammieWearingFool

That's was Galloway.

Time to stock up on eye bleach!

154 londonpride  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:23:25pm

re: #38 formercorpsman

Would any lizard from Britain like to opine as to why this occurring?

Up front, I am not well aware of London politics, but do you think the voters are concerned about terrorism?

Any other issues?

We hate what the left wing government has done to our country,

Immigration, high taxes, not being tough on crime, petty rules, more taxes, trying to run every aspect of our lives, lying, selling us out to the EU, stuffing the decent workers in favour of everybody else, starving our armed forces of money and kit and them being killed as a result, pandering to extremists, destroying pride in the country, destroying our armed forces, throwing money by the bucket load (provided by Mr average in extra taxes) at our health service , schools etc and if anything those services being worse. Spending more on "Quango's" than we do on defence by A FACTOR OF FOUR!...
selling our gold reserves for near nothing, running up a huge debt, more debt, more lies

Will that do for a start?

/ one VERY HAPPY BRIT today

155 Ben Hur  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:23:43pm

Those dastardly zio-Joos.

156 Cygnus  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:24:42pm

re: #142 nyc redneck

oh, i wouldn't stand in your way.
it's just so fascinating to see this exalted 'messiah' self-destruct

And no Easter morning for this 'messiah'!

157 Fenboy  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:25:16pm

re: #143 wishbone

Yes, yes they are.

158 londonpride  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:26:50pm

re: #44 macofromoc

I can't believe there's no picture of him in that cat costume licking milk off that other reality contestant. That should always accompany any red ken story..

That wasn't Ken ;-)

159 Fenboy  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:26:59pm

re: #154 londonpride

New Labour, the party of the quangocrat.

160 Percopius  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:27:55pm

F*ckin' A! Yahoo! Red Ken can suck my left nut! With my luck, he'll move here to LA and run for Mayor and win.

161 Sounder  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:28:18pm

Now the Muslims will be really "offended".

162 Edouard  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:28:33pm

This is marvelous news!

Happy Days Are Here Again!

163 kuffarharbi  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:29:59pm

Good to see the back of that Arab brown noser Livingstone. And I always felt sorry for his newts too. But from Livingstone to Johnson is going from bad to...er..slightly less bad. Johnson is a blithering idiot who plays the buffoon and cutey pie card to garner popularity. He is utterly without cojones when it comes to the crunch ...and the crunch is the TRUTH. And that matters more than canapes in Chelsea. But not to the public school educated toff, Boris. He says his great-grandfather was a Muslim and that Islam is a religion of peace. Puuuurlease! This guy is worse than an oaf...he's another quisling sucking up to the Muslim community in an obnoxious manner.

164 londonpride  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:30:14pm

re: #63 Sharmuta

This is from Mr. Cameron- it doesn't sound naive to me- sounds like he and his party have a better idea what the electorate is really looking for in terms of the issues that are important to them. But maybe it's because I see the term "crime in our streets" as code, since the J word is verboten.

He has called for extremist Islamic groups to be banned for hatred of jews among other things.

Needless to say Labour did jack shit

165 londonpride  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:38:32pm

re: #128 uptight

Ken isn't the only leftist to get his arse kicked by Britain. The Labour party suffered their biggest electoral defeat since the 1940's in local elections, losing over 400 counselors (300 of them to a resurgent Conservative party)

It's just so lovely to see the leftards being so dramatically rejected by Britain.

Where I work it was practically party mood today.

We are pissed off and we are going to get our country back.

166 Joel  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:45:37pm

The question was always "why was that trotskyite scum elected twice"?

167 Joel  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:46:25pm

re: #11 NoSubmission

Good riddance. How long was he in office? Seems like forever.

Two terms!

168 Joel  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:47:00pm

re: #165 londonpride

Any chance that Jenny Tonge and Claire Short might get the boot?

169 Londonpride  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:47:34pm

Latest is labour down 434 seats (even they admitted losing 200 would be bad) - this for them is an absolute disaster.

For my country a good day.

170 Londonpride  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:48:14pm

re: #168 Joel

Any chance that Jenny Tonge and Claire Short might get the boot?


re: #168 Joel

Any chance that Jenny Tonge and Claire Short might get the boot?


only in the General Election which will now be delayed as long as he can until May 2010

171 Joel  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:49:39pm

re: #158 londonpride

That wasn't Ken ;-)

That was George Galloway (Red Ken's lunatic Jew hating brother).

172 justiceforall  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:49:43pm

From the New Yorker's article on the London Mayor race:

"the Conservative M.P. and former journalist Boris Johnson, is sometimes described as a toff...The theory holds that the willingness of London voters to support someone as posh as Boris Johnson would indicate a willingness to turn the national government over to the Conservative leader, David Cameron, who is even posher. Discusses attempts by the Johnson campaign to establish their candidate as a serious man and not, as he has been called, a clown."

173 Edouard  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:50:07pm
174 Joel  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:50:48pm

re: #170 Londonpride

Those two really are low lives! (You can throw in Gerald Kaufman while you're at it).

175 Joel  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:52:35pm

re: #154 londonpride

Any chance of the BBC being privatized? (Sorry for all these questions).

176 Sharmuta  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:53:15pm

re: #172 justiceforall

Do you have a point?

177 Londonpride  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:53:25pm

re: #175 Joel

Any chance of the BBC being privatized? (Sorry for all these questions).

re: #175 Joel

Any chance of the BBC being privatized? (Sorry for all these questions).

Not a chance

178 nyc redneck  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:53:27pm

re: #146 wishbone

Here........ the last update from EUreferendum on the voting

Shouldn't be long now

that's what the monkey said when the lawn mower cut off his tail.

179 Joel  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:54:31pm

re: #68 coquimbojoe

I have been looking through British papers, but haven't found out if Galloway was given the boot...Any info on that? Labour lost 300 seats, the Tories picked up 278, so that's better....

I doubt that Galloway will get the boot. He represents Tower Hamlets - which is very Islamic.

180 kuffarharbi  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:55:23pm

I wish someone would throw the pernicious and useless Clare Short into the English Channel

181 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:55:34pm

re: #175 Joel

Any chance of the BBC being privatized? (Sorry for all these questions).

I hope not. I hate adverts.

182 Joel  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:56:14pm

re: #181 uptight

I hope not. I hate adverts.

I do to but I hate state subsidized unanswerable to anyone Marxists even more.

183 Londonpride  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:57:02pm

This is interesting

[Link: timesonline.typepad.com...]

My favorite is this

"Peter Kelner (head of YouGov) has just said live on BBC London radio that he will resign on air if Boris isn't declared winner in London. Over to you, MORI."

Yougov is a public opinion organisation

note also that

Adam Boulton on Sky reports that the top five constituencies for turnout are leaning Boris and the botton five are leaning for Ken. He describes the hope that Labour had that it might squeeze in on second preferences as "evaporating". He adds that Brian Paddick has told him he expects a Boris victory and that he has had the same verdict from Tessa Jowell. He doesn't now think we will get a result until around 11pm.

184 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:57:12pm

re: #180 kuffarharbi

I wish someone would throw the pernicious and useless Clare Short into the English Channel

With one leg tied to Ken and the other tied to Galloway.

185 Tigger2005  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:57:51pm

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out Red ... oh, why not, let it.

186 Maximu§  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:59:01pm

Well, I'm sure we lizards can find Red Ken a job afterwards....he can:

-Mow kuffarharbi's lawn

-paint Edouard's fence.

-clean the leaves outta Cygnus's pool.

-wash wolfie's cars and truck.

-vacuum uptight's carpet upstairs and down.

-trim the bushes in front of Ben Hur's house.

-take out nyc redneck's trash.

-scrub Kenneth's toilets.

-do Ward Cleaver's shopping.

-cook some dinner over a hot stove for LanceKates

-Babysit NY Nana's grandkids and change diapers afterwards.

187 Joel  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:59:04pm

I had vowed never to step foot in London as long as Red Ken was mayor - which was sad because I have always loved my many visits there.

188 lukespapa  Fri, May 2, 2008 12:59:13pm

After living there for 5 years from 2001 to 2006, there is little that will change there...rearranging the chairs on the titanic is all this is. How long before sharia law is the “law of the land” and they raise the black flag of islam at 10 downing? Anyone?

189 Londonpride  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:01:07pm

re: #188 lukespapa

After living there for 5 years from 2001 to 2006, there is little that will change there...rearranging the chairs on the titanic is all this is. How long before sharia law is the “law of the land” and they raise the black flag of islam at 10 downing? Anyone?

Long way before we get there my friend.

190 Joel  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:02:29pm

re: #124 uptight

Let's remember some of Ken's key achievements

6) Planning to charge people $15 a day to drive in London.

Goodbye Ken - you evil, odious bastard.
London HATES you

Mayor Bloomberg (another elitist who thinks he knows best for everyone) in NYC was thinking of adopting the "congestion" plan you are referring to.

191 kuffarharbi  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:03:25pm

"there is little that will change there...rearranging the chairs on the titanic is all this is."

ROFLMAO Too true brother.

192 jaydee  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:03:35pm

Tessa Jowell? I would trust her as far as I could throw her!

193 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:03:37pm
194 jaydee  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:04:28pm

Pooh, that was meant to read:

Tessa Jowell? I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her!

195 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:04:40pm
196 scaramouche  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:04:55pm

My couplet runneth over:

Ta ta, fare thee ill to wretched Ken.
His like may we never see again.

197 Joel  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:06:37pm

There was a period right after the July 7, 2005 London bombings where Red Ken actually sounded rational. However that did not last very long.

198 jaydee  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:07:00pm

193 ploome hineni 5/02/08 1:03:37 pm reply quote report 0

I hope the ASIANS in Britain, Butthole and Bunghead wake up and smell the tea

their party may be over

The thing is, reading their forums, most of them will be voting for the Cons next time around....

199 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:07:37pm
200 jaydee  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:08:05pm

Ofg, the italic thingy didn't work.........(rolls eyes)

193 ploome hineni 5/02/08 1:03:37 pm reply quote report 0

I hope the ASIANS in Britain, Butthole and Bunghead wake up and smell the tea

their party may be over

The thing is, reading their forums, most of them will be voting for the Cons next time around....

201 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:08:08pm
202 jaydee  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:09:13pm

The italic function didn't work again.....jeez!
..........gives up (sorry about the double posting).

203 jaydee  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:09:41pm

re: #201 ploome hineni

Conservatives

204 jaydee  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:10:39pm

I am having trouble with the functions on this puter (work).

The Cons = Conservatives

205 jaydee  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:12:12pm

I am at work at the moment. Has anyone heard any news about George Galloway (praise be, someones drowned him the Thames)........has he been booted!

(please please please let it be)

206 jas88  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:14:58pm

re: #182 Joel

I do to but I hate state subsidized unanswerable to anyone Marxists even more.

Agreed. The BBC's already funded by subscriptions - it's just those subscriptions are compulsory, with you being prosecuted if you own a TV but don't subscribe. Allowing those of us who don't enjoy being forced to pay for left-wing lies to opt out is hardly going to flood us all with adverts - they'll just have to take a crash course in journalistic ethics and accountability, persuading people to subscribe voluntarily instead of forcing us to. It'll be a culture shock to them - but then, British Telecom had to make the same transition, and survived OK!

207 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:16:05pm

re: #182 Joel

I do to but I hate state subsidized unanswerable to anyone Marxists even more.

The BBC's problem is intitutionalised Liberalism. It's a general culture that runs across many institutions. Academia, movies, local government, public services and - yes - broadcasting. Remember - Channel 4 is just as bad, if not worse

Elitist Liberals have mobilised themselves under our very noses and now they define our national morality for us. They dictate what is "right and wrong", "moral and immoral", "correct and incorrect". If you are a conservative, you are a bastard. If you worry about terrorism, you are an Islamophobe. If you support Israel, you are a zionazi. If you doubt global warming, you are a thoughtless, arrogant fool who hates the planet.

That's the bad news.

The good news is that those Liberal Elites do not represent anyone other than themselves. The fact that Boris can dislodge Ken proves this. There is a revolution under way. Ordinary people are fighting back against the PC crap.

Leftist ideology seen as old fashioned, defeatist, cowardly, immoral and idiotic. Common sense and decency will prevail.

And with this new culture, the BBC will also change. Institutionally. Not totally, I hope. Liberalism has some advantages over stuffy conservatism.

Looking at these results, I don't think I'm imagining the change in the tides.

208 Joel  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:17:46pm

re: #206 jas88

It's akin to us being forced to subsidize PBS (and Bill Moyers) and NPR - wait we do!

209 Joel  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:20:05pm

re: #207 uptight

I don't know - although he was a loathsome creep, Spiro Agnew first mentioned media bias way back in 1969 and that bias is even more entrenched in the main stream media here. However the internet, talk radio, and cable have helped with an alternative voice.

210 Sparkizzy  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:21:11pm

Awesome news!

211 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:28:23pm

re: #195 ploome hineni

how did abuGallaway and his "respect" party do?

They, and a few other moron parties are running as "The Left List"

They appear to be getting totally shitcanned:

[Link: www.socialistworker.co.uk...]

212 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:33:02pm

re: #205 jaydee

I am at work at the moment. Has anyone heard any news about George Galloway (praise be, someones drowned him the Thames)........has he been booted!

(please please please let it be)

Sadly, it was just local elections, not a general (National) election. Members of Parliament like Galloway weren't subject to this vote.

213 justiceforall  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:36:28pm

re: #176 Sharmuta

Spreading information.

214 Q  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:36:30pm

re: #193 ploome hineni

I hope the ASIANS in Britain, Butthole and Bunghead wake up and smell the tea

their party may be over

I wouldn't count on it. The Tories show no signs of willingness to touch that issue -- formerly great Britain as a third-world slum -- with a pole of any length.

So far.

215 Sharmuta  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:41:15pm

re: #213 justiceforall

Looks more like propaganda.

216 Is it me?  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:45:33pm

Darlings!
Greetings from a much merrier England today!
We are not given to hysterics, rioting etc but we do get steadily up to a rolling boil in our own time - then watch out. *call me Tony* and *Gordon the Gopher* have been screwing us over for the last 10 years, wasted about a trillian pounds of taxpayers money. Knocked out the underpinnings of democracy in a desperate attempt to ensure that they can stay in power. Enacted *devolution* - but only to Scotland, Wales and N Ireland - not only to keep them sweet so they would keep returning Labour MPs but to eviscerate the English, we don't have our own parliament but the others do. They are chopping us up into regions so we can be sold off to the EU. Essentially, England will just about cease to exist.
They have also spent their time completely NOT listening to peoples opinion, concerns and fears. They have either lied flat out, smeared anyone who attempted to disagree with them and for years just haven't bothered to keep us informed. We don't need a referendum (promised by both Blair and Brown, they lied and we still haven't had one) on the Treaty of Lisbon but on whether we want to be in the EU at all. Brown must be bricking it (sh*tting in his pants) 'cos about 80% would most likely say *get us out of there*.

#121 Wishbone and #154 Londonpride - too right! Greetings fellow Brits!

I checked on teletext at about 8.45pm this evening and it said about 50% counted so I don't think we may know for sure until tomorrow. It could be very tight or a landslide for Boris, the bookies seem confident anyway.
I cannot wait to see the back of Red Ken, he hasn't met a terrorist he didn't like. A truely repellant individual. He needs to go down big time, if he does, I'll be dancing round my living room.
The local elections in Wales and England were a savaging for Labour. It's especially sweet because they lost many seats in what were traditional Labour areas. I am disturbed that postal voting is still allowed. The last general election was highly suspect in my opinion because of the postal vote, widespread abuse.

There was a lot of coverage in the Daily Mail so here's their home page, just click on the articles.
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Maybe Labour thought they could get away with all this, but they should spend at least a little time in the real world. They need to learn a hard lesson - NEVER piss off the English!
Bring on the General Election, electoral hanging, drawing and quatering required. HAH!
Happy, happy, happy!
CHOCOLATE!


PS #113 Miss Trixie - good post from Ayatollah Knomeini, I would agree. Ken is head of the London Council, not Mayor - thats a whole different thang...
Regards

217 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:46:46pm

To those wondering about the Loony Left parties, here is a breakdown of the results, by party:

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

The lefty parties:

Galloway's Respect Party have 4 councilors
The Greens have 47
Socialist Alternative have 2

for that matter, the BNP nutcase racists got 37 councilors

To put this picture in contrast, the Conservatives have 3154, winning more than 300 from other parties, this time round.

The leftards are a microscopic dot. Irrelevent.

218 nyc redneck  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:46:53pm

so happy you blokes are turning it around over there.
( enough is enough for any country)

219 jas88  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:48:42pm

re: #208 Joel

It's akin to us being forced to subsidize PBS (and Bill Moyers) and NPR - wait we do!

A similar problem, but not on anything like the same scale - in the UK, it was only last decade that the fifth TV channel was finally created, with the BBC holding two of the five (and its cousin, Channel 4, controlling a third). Imagine PBS taking over CBS, ABC and CNN, scrapping all the advertising and donations to be entirely reliant on billions per year in tax revenue and you're getting close.

My hope, actually, is for almost the US situation to develop: government funding restricted to actual public service content, with all their standard commercial content funded in the same way as everyone else's.

220 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:48:56pm

5 /14 declared

Boris Buffoon 45%
Ken Bastard 41%

Boris is on course

221 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:50:57pm

Joel - not everyone there is a lib. There may even be a lizard in the works!

:-)

222 Q  Fri, May 2, 2008 1:59:20pm
the BNP nutcase racists got 37 councilors

I have no love or respect for the BNP, but Nick Griffin is reportedly trying to turn them around, to much opposition from his own nutroots.

In any case, they are the only ones speaking about what really matters. If a respectable party takes up the issue of immigration and third-worldization, the BNP will fade into a well-deserved insignificance.

223 yma o hyd  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:06:56pm

re: #199 ploome hineni

is he gay also?

Absolutely not - to the contrary, teeheehee!

Boris deilghts in looking like a totally distracted professor who hasn't got a clue - but he's got a very sharp brain indeed, and also has a grat sense of humour.

How much he can do in London, with the enemy still sitting in parliament and No 10, that remains to be seen.

One thing is however now clear for all to see; Labour and Gordon Brown have lost it utterly, and the way the economy is going here, after Gordon's fiddling and ineptitude, there is no chance that they can recover for the next general elections.
It even seems doubtful if Gordon Brown can survive the next Labour Conference in September. Replacing him won't help.

Sorry I'm late - the urgent matter of two rugby games needed my full attention ... My club won away, our rivals got beaten at home - another reason to be jubilant!

224 Alibaba  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:07:04pm

Does this mean that the Brits are slowly returning to sanity?re: #6 Sharmuta

225 yma o hyd  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:08:45pm

re: #224 Alibaba

Does this mean that the Brits are slowly returning to sanity?

Yep - and the Tories now have something to build on - whereas Labour won't be able to get their grip on our country back - hopefully for a long time!

226 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:19:18pm

re: #214 Q

I wouldn't count on it. The Tories show no signs of willingness to touch that issue -- formerly great Britain as a third-world slum -- with a pole of any length.

So far.

Third World Slum?

What an idiotic comment.

As for Asians - oriental and indo, we also have Poles, Africans, Jeeewwwws etc.

For that matter, America was build from those that arrived at Ellis Island

227 yma o hyd  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:19:52pm

Here's a nice little piece about Boris, well worth a read:
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

228 offendi  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:32:13pm

From what I hear Kenny offended many people who considered the terrorist attacks and his enabling of muslim extremism. There was also some annoyance that Ken did not do all he could do to help London fully supplant NYC as the world's financial capital, as he was not exactly Mr. Capitalism. A worthy and happy political demise.

229 Q  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:32:29pm

re: #226 uptight

Third World Slum?

What an idiotic comment.

As for Asians - oriental and indo, we also have Poles, Africans, Jeeewwwws etc.

Do you live in Britain? If so, how can you not see what's right in front of you?

"Asians" is a well-known euphemism for Muslims, I believe ploome was using it in this way. (And what's with the idiotic spelling of "Jews", btw?)

For that matter, America was build from those that arrived at Ellis Island.

Not really. America was already firmly in existence by the time Ellis Island became operational. Which is not to say that immigrants of that wave did not end up greatly enriching America -- they most definitely did. But things need to be kept in the proper perspective.

230 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:37:16pm

re: #224 Alibaba

Does this mean that the Brits are slowly returning to sanity?

Brits have always been sane. The Left make the noise. It's the same everywhere.

I can't judge the States based on The View

231 avk2  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:43:57pm

Well, there's a swing here to the Conservative Party...but how big a swing I'm not going to tell you

232 Wishbone  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:44:16pm

re: #229 Q

Dunno where you come from mate, but 'Asians' is a well know euphemism for 'ain't black, ain't yellow, ain't any other colour......but brown.' That includes Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists, Seventh Occurrence of the Blessed Banana Skin's....... You name it, if it falls into the requisite geographical category, it's 'Asian.'

It's broadly used so as not to be over specific in reporting, lest it bring the wrath of the PC brigade upon the reporter. At least where I come from, that is.

233 Q  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:50:04pm

re: #232 Wishbone

Thanks for your clarification. I still think ploome meant Muslims specifically.

234 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:52:20pm

re: #229 Q

Do you live in Britain? If so, how can you not see what's right in front of you?

I do live in Britain. In North West London. I've also traveled all over Britain and in no way, shape or form does any of it even vaguely resemble a third world slum. Not even Manchester.

"Asians" is a well-known euphemism for Muslims, I believe ploome was using it in this way.

No - to Americans "Asian" means orientals. To Brits it means people from the Indian sub-continent.

Slag off British Asians and you are including many religions including Sikhs & Hindus (who, like us Jews, are also victims of Muslim terrorism).

Asians are normally, nice, peaceful hardworking people who make a great contribution to our society. I have nothing against immigrants, just as proud Americans shouldn't.

(And what's with the idiotic spelling of "Jews", btw?).

It was a comment on the evil of racism.

However, if you and Ploome Hinie meant Muslims then say Muslims, but slam Asians and you are attacking my friends.

235 descolada9  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:54:57pm

Red Ken's gone?

SCORE!

236 Wishbone  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:58:44pm

re: #233 Q

No problem mate. Although I should have also pointed out that, more often than not on the balance of probability, the 'Asians' being spoken of in British news and media are indeed Muslims; if only that they seem to make the headlines more often. I can't wonder why.

237 Q  Fri, May 2, 2008 2:59:55pm

re: #234 uptight

If you think mass immigration is not a problem... keep thinking it. It's your country. For the time being.

238 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:04:09pm

re: #237 Q

If you think mass immigration is not a problem... keep thinking it. It's your country. For the time being.

I don't support mass immigration, but I don't hate immigrants.

Again. Pot Kettle Black?

It's not as if we have tens of millions of illegal immigrants here. At least we don't have the "Press 1 for English".

At least our kids TV shows aren't in Spanish.

239 chief long name  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:09:43pm

Three cheers to our British cousins for showing Labour the door!

240 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:10:26pm

re: #236 Wishbone

No problem mate. Although I should have also pointed out that, more often than not on the balance of probability, the 'Asians' being spoken of in British news and media are indeed Muslims; if only that they seem to make the headlines more often. I can't wonder why.

Headlines about terrorism are one thing, but ordinarily Asians means Indians (and thereabouts) - not Muslims.

"Youths" can mean rioting French Muslims, but normally it means feckless teens.

241 Q  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:12:15pm

re: #238 uptight

I don't support mass immigration, but I don't hate immigrants.

Again. Pot Kettle Black?

It's not as if we have tens of millions of illegal immigrants here. At least we don't have the "Press 1 for English".

At least our kids TV shows aren't in Spanish.

I don't think you understand what "pot, kettle" means if you're using it in this context. I am a nationalist and (consequently) immigration-restrictionist.

And yes, hate has nothing to do with it. If anything, it should be reserved for the traitorous elites who make the public bear the consequences of their liberal delusions and cheap-labor addiction.

242 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:12:26pm

Final London mayor result due at just before midnight, but everyone is still saying Ken is out.

I am elated. I can't express how much I hate that man.

243 jas88  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:14:10pm

Uptight: the children's TV might not be - but we have government services translated into Polish (and dozens of other foreign languages), government-funded English-for-immigrants lessons... Press 1 for English? Pull the other one - there aren't enough buttons on the 'phone to cover all the languages our councils have to operate in to accommodate all the immigrants!

Meanwhile, a friend of mine from NASA who developed training materials for the astronauts gets turned down for a work permit on the grounds there are too many unemployed web designers - but if she'd been an illiterate Eastern European, or even a Muslim terrorist "fearing" punishment for being a terrorist, Brown's regime would roll out the red carpet and start showering her with bomb money taken from our pockets!

244 Wishbone  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:16:11pm

re: #240 uptight

Hehe....... Isn't that just what I said mate? ;-)

We have a few Asian lads here running the local shop. They're all Sri Lankans and, in my affable opinion, also completely bonkers. They're up for a laugh any time, but you don't mention cricket to them unless you can talk the talk, 'cos they're really keen on cricket; you can get yourself stuck deep if you go near that topic.

245 Wishbone  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:18:45pm

Yeah.....Uptight...... Jas does have a point there. Ask yourself this:

"How many languages is the 'How to Claim Your Benefits' bible printed in?"

Not surprising, but a very good case in point.

246 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:22:01pm

re: #241 Q

I don't think you understand what "pot, kettle" means if you're using it in this context. I am a nationalist and (consequently) immigration-restrictionist.

And yes, hate has nothing to do with it. If anything, it should be reserved for the traitorous elites who make the public bear the consequences of their liberal delusions and cheap-labor addiction.

I thought you were an anti-British American.

Ploome Inaney likes to think of us as a leftwing loony bin. He doesn't care what it's really like here and doesn't seem to realise that dhimmi nutcases are the same in his country. Hence the pot kettle black comment.

I love other cultures, but I wish people kept them at a lower key than their culture as a Brit. Sadly, multiculturalism places other cultures on an even footing as British (or higher). That can make a country little more than an Epcot Centre and has to be fought (along with the political correctness that enforces it).

That said, a purely traditional, ordinary, white british culture would be dull.

I like the fact that I can eat Chinese food and listen to Mowtown and watch Adebayor score for Arsenal.

247 jas88  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:24:12pm

Cricket? That reminds me of the gas station attendant in Houston ... I went in to buy a coffee, as soon as he heard my accent (slightly more English than anything else, after studying in Cambridge) he was all fired up about the latest Test scores! I felt quite guilty having to disappoint him by admitting I didn't even have a clue who was playing, let alone what the scores were...

248 Wishbone  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:25:01pm

re: #246 uptight

Ploome is a 'she,' not a 'he.'

Anyway.......You're not a Chelski fan......It's all good

;-)

249 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:26:09pm

re: #243 jas88

Uptight: the children's TV might not be - but we have government services translated into Polish (and dozens of other foreign languages), government-funded English-for-immigrants lessons... Press 1 for English? Pull the other one - there aren't enough buttons on the 'phone to cover all the languages our councils have to operate in to accommodate all the immigrants!

I hate multiculturalism. I don't mind multiracialism.

I mentioned the influence of Mexican immigration on America, because I thought an American was takin the piss. I mean, it's not like the US is without problems.

The political correctness culture in the UK comes from the Liberal elitists, not from ordinary Brits. That is why the left are being dumped.

250 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:27:23pm

re: #248 Wishbone

Ploome is a 'she,' not a 'he.'

Anyway.......You're not a Chelski fan......It's all good

;-)

Who says Ploome is a "she"?

251 Wishbone  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:34:08pm

Insofar as I remember, I think it's usually Ploome.

252 Q  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:37:47pm
I hate multiculturalism. I don't mind multiracialism.

Multiracialism can only work (to a limited degree) in the absence of multiculturalism. I.e. when the cultural majority: a) exists, and b) acts like one -- and so do the minorities.

In the absence of these conditions, you have a Hobbesian Balkanized free-for-all. Just the other day, some Hawaiian rage boyz attempted a bloodless coup. A taste of things to come.

253 Q  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:42:55pm
I hate multiculturalism. I don't mind multiracialism.

In other words, there's a wide overlap, if not complete identity, between the two phenomena.

254 chief long name  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:50:48pm

re: #250 uptight

She prolly would if she was here...

255 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:55:45pm

woooo hooooo!

It's official now.

boris 1,168,738 votes
red ken 1,028,966 votes

Boris Johnson is the new London Mayor.

Don't the door slam your Commie meglomaniac arse on the way out Ken.

CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES, COME ON!

:) :) :) :) :) :)

ps Respect Left List BOMBED

256 Wishbone  Fri, May 2, 2008 3:56:54pm

re: #255 uptight

As we say up North: "Thank fuck for that"

257 Smit  Fri, May 2, 2008 4:01:45pm

Oh thank goodness. I'm having a beer to celebrate. BORIS!

258 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 4:08:33pm

re: #253 Q

In other words, there's a wide overlap, if not complete identity, between the two phenomena.

We can be many different races in one country - no problem.
But I think having different cultures in one country is bad. Insulting.

It's like Brits who go to Spain and live in British ghettos, refusing to learn Spanish, looking down on the locals and the culture of the land they've moved to.

Now, I'm not saying that there's no room for other cultures - they enrich our lives - it's just British should the the dominant culture for everyone in Britain. We shouldn't have council leaflets in Urdu. Everyone living here should speak English, wear western clothes and love and respect Britain. More than that - they should BE British. The desire top be British should be the only reason why people can emigrate here.

259 29Victor  Fri, May 2, 2008 4:09:18pm

buh-bye

260 Smit  Fri, May 2, 2008 4:10:44pm

London's new mayor on Islam -

"It is time to reassert British values...That means disposing of the first taboo, and accepting that the problem is Islam. Islam is the problem. To any non-Muslim reader of the Koran, Islamophobia — fear of Islam — seems a natural reaction, and, indeed, exactly what that text is intended to provoke. Judged purely on its scripture — to say nothing of what is preached in the mosques — it is the most viciously sectarian of all religions. The trouble with this disgusting arrogance and condescension is that it is widely supported in Koranic texts, and we look in vain for the enlightened Islamic teachers and preachers who will begin the process of reform. What is going on in these mosques and madrasas? "When is someone going to get 18th century on Islam’s mediaeval ass?"[

Boris on Islam

261 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 4:16:01pm

Interesting statistic - for all the noise the Respect party make....for all the coverage they get....their candidate only got 16,000 votes. In a city of 8 million people.

262 Q  Fri, May 2, 2008 4:31:31pm

re: #258 uptight

I am not arguing any of these (exceedingly obvious) points. But I'm saying that you ignore the racial component of all this at your peril. People are not limitlessly interchangeable; and numbers are of the essence.

263 Q  Fri, May 2, 2008 4:32:43pm

re: #260 Smit

London's new mayor on Islam -


Boris on Islam

Kudos to Boris for cutting straight to the heart of the issue.

264 Jaydee  Fri, May 2, 2008 4:33:46pm

PMSL.........Boris is IN and that corrupt-malingering-red-radical-lover-sell-my-soul -for-a-sixpence-orrible-excuse-for-a-human-being-k enneth is OUT!

***Up Yours Ken***

Elated!

265 martyr maker  Fri, May 2, 2008 5:03:13pm

Thank you, Jaydee. "Up Yours Ken" expresses my feelings better than anything I could have come up with.

266 absolutinfidel[deleted]  Fri, May 2, 2008 5:52:35pm
267 Zimriel  Fri, May 2, 2008 6:01:45pm

He was born in New York City, too. And you know what a US birth certificate means: Jindal/Johnson 2012!

.../a man can dream

268 Zimriel  Fri, May 2, 2008 6:19:17pm

re: #163 kuffarharbi

Good to see the back of that Arab brown noser Livingstone. And I always felt sorry for his newts too. But from Livingstone to Johnson is going from bad to...er..slightly less bad. Johnson is a blithering idiot who plays the buffoon and cutey pie card to garner popularity. He is utterly without cojones when it comes to the crunch ...and the crunch is the TRUTH. And that matters more than canapes in Chelsea. But not to the public school educated toff, Boris. He says his great-grandfather was a Muslim and that Islam is a religion of peace. Puuuurlease! This guy is worse than an oaf...he's another quisling sucking up to the Muslim community in an obnoxious manner.

re: #260 Smit

London's new mayor on Islam -

Boris on Islam

Thank you Smit, although Johnson seems to have slithered out of his initially brave stance.

kuffarharbi: Johnson's weaseling a few weeks back is worrying. And Johnson has been feckless in the past, certainly. Hopefully he won't back down from the inevitable car-b-q...

269 lazypadawan  Fri, May 2, 2008 6:43:47pm

Buh-bye, Red Ken!

270 Dr. Shalit  Fri, May 2, 2008 7:00:56pm

Ok Everyone -

Lift a toast to "Boh-Hor-Is" the Spider - dum, dum, dum, dum, dum, dum dum dum - John Entwhistle, +/- 1964. that is all.

-S-

271 Q  Fri, May 2, 2008 7:13:06pm

re: #268 Zimriel

Hm, looks like I spoke too soon. Which brings us back to the gist of my earlier comment.

272 Dr. Shalit  Fri, May 2, 2008 7:25:37pm

re: #271 Q

"Q" -

Perhaps our British Cousins are willing to STAND UP FOR FREEDOM AS IN THE OLDEN DAYS - Let Us Hope. That is surely enough.

-S-

273 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 7:29:43pm

re: #262 Q

I am not arguing any of these (exceedingly obvious) points. But I'm saying that you ignore the racial component of all this at your peril. People are not limitlessly interchangeable; and numbers are of the essence.

Numbers are the key, regardless of race. The lift is full.

Bring race into it and you sound like the BNP.

I get on fine with people of all races. It's cool and you should be comfortable with it, by now.

"if we were dogs we'd all be the same breed" PJ O'Rourke.

Besides numbers, it's religions, customs and some cultures that screw things up. If the Saudis can insist that foreign visitors to their land wear modest clothes and don't drink, then we can insist that nobody wears a hijab. But that's religion and culture. A white English bird could wear a veil and I'd still object.

Extremist Muslims can be any race. Any race can be better, more patriotic Brits than some white Brits.

274 Q  Fri, May 2, 2008 7:31:55pm

Yes, the news are certainly heartening. The question is, whether Tories would be able or willing to bring about meaningful change.

I'll give them a benefit of the doubt, at this point.

275 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 7:36:26pm

re: #272 Dr. Shalit

"Q" -

Perhaps our British Cousins are willing to STAND UP FOR FREEDOM AS IN THE OLDEN DAYS - Let Us Hope. That is surely enough.

-S-

We always have, but I think too many people get an impression of us Brits by reading about the antics of the loony left. Most of us aren't like that.

Most Americans aren't like Cindy Sheehan, Ward Churchill, Noam Chomsky etc. I can't judge you based on the loud, but loopy minority, so please don't judge us.

As for standing up for freedom - remember who went to war in Iraq & Afghanistan alongside America? There's your answer.

276 uptight  Fri, May 2, 2008 7:38:12pm

re: #274 Q

Yes, the news are certainly heartening. The question is, whether Tories would be able or willing to bring about meaningful change.

damn true

let's hope they listen to the people

where are u from, Q?

277 raziel (troll devouring blader)  Fri, May 2, 2008 7:41:09pm

I'm very happy Red Ken "HiZoner" has been booted out; I almost thought he'd declare himself Londonistan Mayor for Life taking a leaf from his buddy Hugo.

So here's a drink to celebrate the day what I and many others thought would never happen (except perhaps by means of a commonsense uprising from a group called the Motorist Liberation Front /s).

278 Dr. Shalit  Fri, May 2, 2008 7:47:52pm

OK -

P.J. is exactly right - with reference to DOGS. (By the way MELECH, the Shepherd agrees - tail firmly wagging), with reference to humans - a different standard applies.
Let's "Bottom Line" this thing - Excepting MUSLIM SUPREMECISTS - the world is basically tolerant on a "faith" level. "They" still have a 'chip on their shoulder' - 1400 years after the demise of Muhammad.
Yo, MUSLIMS - get a grip:

1. Muhammed is Dead.

2. The rest of the World would prefer that all y'all were "IN."

3. The rest of the World will generally tolerate your beliefs, aside from polygamy and woman hate.

4. It is more profitable - on an individual basis - to "go with the program."

Please Advise - Muslims of the World.

-S-

279 Dr. Shalit  Fri, May 2, 2008 7:49:06pm

re: #275 uptight

"up'-

"Thanx" - all 'y'all made my night.

-S-

280 Q  Fri, May 2, 2008 7:52:12pm

re: #276 uptight

damn true

let's hope they listen to the people

where are u from, Q?

US of A.

281 Q  Fri, May 2, 2008 7:55:16pm

re: #273 uptight

Again, this is not about getting along with individual people. This is about the fact that racial differences begin to manifest themselves in meaningful ways when large enough numbers are involved. Statistically meaningful. Therefore, numbers are of the essence.

282 Q  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:01:44pm

And this has social and political implications. Which we ignore at our peril.

283 Dr. Shalit  Fri, May 2, 2008 8:06:22pm

re: #279 Dr. Shalit

To Uptight - and the rest of Lizardlandia -

My previous reply was not enough. My office is where the Royal Navy Purchasing Office was in 1939-40's in Asbury Park, NJ. By the way - I have been waiting some years for your M.O.D. to confirm this - they don't respond well to "e-mails." That little silliness aside - the Whole World (Todo el Mundo por mis amigos) owes the UK a DOUBLE gratitude:

First - For standing up to Hitler's Reich at the outbreak of war.

Second - For continuing to fight that war after being offered "reasonable" terms prior to US involvement (See - Lord Halifax).

Need I say more?

-S-

284 EIDE_Interface  Sat, May 3, 2008 12:51:08am

re: #19 cinnabar

While Red Ken was over the top, I wouldn't be surprised if the Tory mayor is just as much of a tool. The torries have been spouting all kinds of anti-american pro-terrorist drivel in their role of Labour opposition to Blair. I only hope I am wrong and we don't hear anything of this guy. Thank goodness Red Ken is packed off to wherever old commies go to moulder and die.

So basically 90% of the Brits are officially insane. Can we declare war on England?

285 uptight  Sat, May 3, 2008 1:02:04am

re: #279 Dr. Shalit

"up'-

"Thanx" - all 'y'all made my night.

-S-

thank you Dr

286 Uriah_lost  Sat, May 3, 2008 1:15:20am

re: #276 uptight

I'm happy but as an "unfrozen American caveman" your strange ways confuse and frighten me. Please reasure me that the Tories and Conservative you speak of will not turn inward and abandon the world-wide fight against Islamic terroism, including the establishment of democracy and enlighenment thought in third world. This "keyboard" thing has caused me much anxiety. I must go and snuggle up with my fetishes and totems(and take a Xanax) now.

287 uptight  Sat, May 3, 2008 1:16:39am

re: #281 Q

Again, this is not about getting along with individual people. This is about the fact that racial differences begin to manifest themselves in meaningful ways when large enough numbers are involved. Statistically meaningful. Therefore, numbers are of the essence.

Race isn't the issue - unless you are petty enough to be worried about how dark someone's skin is, or what food they eat in their own homes.

I don't feel any significant difference with, say, Ian Wright (a black man, but undeniably a patriot), yet I feel a vast ocean of difference between me and Noam Chomsky (who is the same race as me).

You say it's not about individuals, but we are a nation of individuals. We don't act as blocks of races. We act as individuals. If our attitude is patriotic, then fine. If we hate our country, if we are ashamed of Britain, criticise it while pleading the case for the enemy, then that is the problem...but again...that's down to politics and sometimes religion, but not race.

Start generalising about certain races or about racial differences being problematic and you sound like a Neo-Nazi. This distracts from serious points you might need to say.

I live in a very cosmopolitan area. I live with Poles to the left, Sri Lankans to the right, Indians above and English below. The shops carry a wide range of foods and we all get on fine. It's cool. It would be better if we all shared an identity as "English" or "British", but the fact that we don't is down to politics. It's down to the divisive nature of multiculturalism, but it's not down to race.

288 uptight  Sat, May 3, 2008 1:25:28am

Race is what re: #286 Uriah_lost

I'm happy but as an "unfrozen American caveman" your strange ways confuse and frighten me. Please reasure me that the Tories and Conservative you speak of will not turn inward and abandon the world-wide fight against Islamic terroism, including the establishment of democracy and enlighenment thought in third world. This "keyboard" thing has caused me much anxiety. I must go and snuggle up with my fetishes and totems(and take a Xanax) now.

It all depends on the attitude of the leader, Ordinarily, I'd expect a Conservative party to take a much stronger stance against terrorism than a socialist party.

Tony Blair was an aberration. He was a conservative heading up a socialist party. His own party's supporters hated him for backing the war. I'm sure he had more supporters in the rival conservatove party.

David Cameron now heads up the conservatives and really it's down to him what direction the Tories take. He could be the AntiBlair. He could act like a socialist, be popular with Labour supporters but be hated by Conservatives (like John McCain).

I hope not, but so far he's been adopting lefty causes and sensitivities. Damn. He is like John McCain!

Lets hope they both have the stomach for the fight, when they gain office.

289 the_flying_pig  Sat, May 3, 2008 6:44:55am

Will my hope for Boris Johnson as the new Mayor of London be continued as long as he does not dare to backpedal on this statement he made few years back?


"It is time to reassert British values...That means disposing of the first taboo, and accepting that the problem is Islam. Islam is the problem. To any non-Muslim reader of the Koran, Islamophobia — fear of Islam — seems a natural reaction, and, indeed, exactly what that text is intended to provoke. Judged purely on its scripture — to say nothing of what is preached in the mosques — it is the most viciously sectarian of all religions. The trouble with this disgusting arrogance and condescension is that it is widely supported in Koranic texts, and we look in vain for the enlightened Islamic teachers and preachers who will begin the process of reform. What is going on in these mosques and madrasas? "When is someone going to get 18th century on Islam’s mediaeval ass?"

Source: the Spectator, July 2005.

Wow.

290 kuffarharbi  Sat, May 3, 2008 8:22:29am

re: #289 the_flying_pig

Will my hope for Boris Johnson as the new Mayor of London be continued as long as he does not dare to backpedal on this statement he made few years back?


Wow.

He's backpedalling already. This man is all hot air...a Machiavellian opportunist chameleon out for votes and popularity. Witness his recent visit to East London to seduce the Muslims. Trust him not. I can count on one hand the honest and sincere figures in the UK political quagmire.

291 Petero  Sat, May 3, 2008 10:15:40am

Well now we have to suffer this fool as he commences his tour on the Dhimmi and Jihad conference circuit.


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