Disgusting.

now that the iraqi army is running the show, these embed can expect less lenient treatment.

Would it be ungracious to suggest he be imbedded in a body bag?

This is unexplainable.

But I'm sure Cognito will give it a try.

This doesn't sound like "freedom of the press" to me. It sounds like aiding and abetting the enemy. Or treason.

embedded.

What the Hell is Wrong with the Times?

They are continuing to embrace their anti-Americanism, thus shadowing the enemies of America will help them along with their narrative that America is the worst thing to ever happen to this planet.

I thought that Ernie Pyle was embedded with the Japanese Army in the Pacific. No?

/

embed(s) -- excuse me

Hala Jaber is not only embedded with them, he is one of them!

Delenda est Tempus

re: #9 CicadaJoe

embed(s) -- excuse me

I think they have misspelled it. It should correctly be spelled inbeds.

I'll bet the Times is happy to embed with the Mahdi army, its embedding in the US and Brit armies that embarrass them... that's the short straw duty.

It's a Mahdi Python's Flying Circus

And the problem is? It is possible to read without being fooled, you know!

They're STILL pissed about the Revolutionary War.

You just know that if (when) he gets killed the media will shriek about how the poor reporters are being targeted by the US & Iraqi military.

re: #11 galloping granny

I think they have misspelled it. It should correctly be spelled inbeds inbreds.

Fixed it.

re: #3 Little Boomer

Would it be ungracious to suggest he be imbedded in a body bag?

I think it will be allah's will.

re: #11 galloping granny

I think they have misspelled it. It should correctly be spelled inbeds.

LOL!

The OTHER times also seems to be shilling for the Sadrists!

Check this out:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Haven't we seen this before?!

Yes, it is a slaughter.

(want some more?)

If an embedded reporter gets killed, will the press start the "The US is targeting reporters" hogwash again?

And does this "journalist" also embed with the UK soliders and write glowing reports about their bravery and the wonderful things they are doing?..............
Charles - you are right - the media is the enemy.

re: #14 threecoloursblue

And the problem is?

Uh ... just a guess ... they're the enemy?

disgusting...

I wonder if they are reporting on the drug use by these guys and the drug running. Maybe sampling the product?

Lie down with dogs; get up with fleas.

re: #14 threecoloursblue

The problem is, they would let their own countrymen die to protect their "journalistic integrity".

It would probably win them a pulitzer.

Obviously, The Times of London is ahead of the sharia curve. Their audience in the U.K. is apparently siding against the U.S. (and the U.K.) troops, and they simply want to show the heroics of the ordinary Sadrist versus The Great Satan and Company.

And BTW- The Times and their reporters disgust me.

(Now a question for the historically minded among us. Did the U.K. papers report glowingly on the Nazi forces during WWII? I'm guessing no, but then again....)

Duck, Hala Jaber.

I clicked on the link, then paid attention to my turning stomach.....closed the article down.....can't read it.....

Good headline, Charles.....that in itself makes the media the enemy.....traitors.....in league with murderers.

Hala Jaber seems like quite a piece of work.....
American-backed killer militias strut across Iraq
She also wrote a book about Hezbollah

re: #24 Charles

And we know about them from Govt handouts? PR stuff ?

And the day when Al- Sadr does a deal?

re: #24 Charles

Uh ... just a guess ... they're the enemy?

And they want to see the non-Muslim citizens in the U.K either dead or converted?

Their embed should read this he may rethink who he is hanging around with.

Wth every babyset of sanity they take (dumping Livingstone) you then hear about the giant leaps of madness they take. Truly disgusting and sad.

re: #24 Charles

Uh ... just a guess ... they're the enemy?

No no no, Charles you are sooo confussed, America is the enemy.......Say it with me, I know you can.... America is the enemy...There I knew you could say it.......America is always the enemy...... /s

Fly by posting here, but...

Shot at dawn - tomorrow, not the day after. Maybe, and only maybe, offer him a cigarette before he goes to meet his creator. 100 years ago, nobody on the planet would have thought more than once on this solution to an obvious problem. Also sprach Zarathustra.

I hate that there is so much sympathy for the Mahdi army, and all that they are trying to accomplish (repelling the aggressor, nationalistic pride, etc. etc.), and none for the American supported current government, and all the security forces trying to make Iraq a better place.

re: #14 threecoloursblue
Read the article. She watches them setting up sniper positions, making bombs and they discuss plans for future attacks with her. How many American and British lives will be lost because she doesn't alert the coalition? The families of the people killed will be reading these accounts of a fellow citizen who essentially participated in the attack. It's beyond reprehensible.

re: #32 threecoloursblue

And we know about them from Govt handouts? PR stuff ?

And the day when Al- Sadr does a deal?

If you were to pull your head... Ummm, never mind, someone as braindead as you obviously isnt going to get a clue ever.......

re: #31 Killgore Trout

Here's an intersting review of her book from an amazon reviewer, almasshadi from London:

I read Ms Jaber's book, and was so inspired by it I visited South Lebanon. Ms Jaber is obviously not an Islamist, but her unbiased and contextual approach presents a picture, which many of Hezbullah admirers would recognise. She shows the Quranic roots of the movement by quoting the Holy Scripture at each chapter head. Most importantly she describes the comprehensive nature of the Party's work, and not just it's military aspects. She allows the Hezbullahi and other players in the drama to speak for themselves, yet is not afraid to form an opinion about some of the controversial aspects of recent Lebanese history.

For anyone who wants to know how a radical Islamic programme can work within a multi-cultural society this book is a must.

Lets take this moment back to 1945, the "Guardian" embeds "journalists" in the Third Reich and Nippon. Head line reads "Thousands of Jews volunteer for death"....

re: #32 threecoloursblue

Are you not confusing this with what is actually the job of a spy?

re: #41 jaunte

For anyone who wants to know how a radical Islamic programme can work within a multi-cultural society this book is a must.

Ha!

re: #32 threecoloursblue

And we know about them from Govt handouts? PR stuff ?

And the day when Al- Sadr does a deal?

Huh? Are you just tossing out random sentences, or did you actually have a point?

re: #39 Killgore Trout

That was so well laid out, Killgore, that I saved it with the heart --can't often get the proper words together like that when I need them.....

OT==

Sad. But still funny in a way. Here's a headline about today's Kentucky Derby that had a very unusual, very tragic ending.

"In a pretty clear omen from the gods, Hillary Clinton's Kentucky Derby pick finished a close second, collapsed and was killed on the spot"

re: #38 psyop

I hate that there is so much sympathy for the Mahdi army, and all that they are trying to accomplish (repelling the aggressor, nationalistic pride, etc. etc.), and none for the American supported current government, and all the security forces trying to make Iraq a better place.

If that's the way it is in Britain, that's the way it is.

We know who they are, what they believe.

It's not what we believe.

Most Americans want the U.S. to succeed in Iraq, and if they are behind the Sadrists in the U.K. so be it. There are many other willing allies (like Poland for example), and we should concentrate on rewarding them in the future.

IMHO

The �$%$#$ press won't be happy until Ayatollah Mookie steps off the plane from Tehran and kisses the tarmac at Baghdad airport. I know I sound like a broken record on this.

re: #44 Killgore Trout

I think Hala Jaber has picked a side.

The King and Country debate was a discussion at the Oxford Union debating society on 9 February, 1933 of the resolution: "That this House will in no circumstances fight for its King and Country". It was passed by 275 votes to 153. [Link: en.wikipedia.org...] The more things change, the more they stay the same.

re: #22 schlagerman

If an embedded reporter gets killed, will the press start the "The US is targeting reporters" hogwash again?

Does a bear shit in the woods?

re: #47 guzziguy

OT==

Sad. But still funny in a way. Here's a headline about today's Kentucky Derby that had a very unusual, very tragic ending.

"In a pretty clear omen from the gods, Hillary Clinton's Kentucky Derby pick finished a close second, collapsed and was killed on the spot"

are you always this moronic or do you just dabble in it on the weekends?

re: #4 Noam Sayin'

This is unexplainable.

But I'm sure Cognito will give it a try.

/If nothing else you're definitely consistent, Noam. :)

re: #14 threecoloursblue

And the problem is? It is possible to read without being fooled, you know!

The problem is that it is aiding and abetting the enemy. The Militias are the enemy of the Iraqi government and the coalition forces.

You may be able to not be fooled but that is beside the point, everyone is not like you!

BL

re: #8 Truck Monkey

I thought that Ernie Pyle was embedded with the Japanese Army in the Pacific. No?

/

/That was Gomer Pyle. Shazam!

re: #50 jaunte

I think Hala Jaber has picked a side.

I think the press in general picked sides a long time ago.

One slight edit:
"The black-turbaned cleric, who has not been seen in public for almost a year and is believed to be bravely studying in Iran, also urged the Iraqi security forces to distance themselves from US and British troops."

re: #48 shibumi

If that's the way it is in Britain, that's the way it is.

We know who they are, what they believe.

It's not what we believe.

Most Americans want the U.S. to succeed in Iraq, and if they are behind the Sadrists in the U.K. so be it. There are many other willing allies (like Poland for example), and we should concentrate on rewarding them in the future.

IMHO

This isn’t about what the British people think, it’s about how the British uber elitist liberal media thinks. You shouldn’t believe that the British media represents the views of the British people any more than the American uber elitist liberal media actually represent the views of the American people.

the enemy is embedded w/ the enemy. excellent. we have the enemy all together.

Hala Jaber is a she, not a he and she is from Lebanon but has lived in Londonistan for some time. According to Wiikipedia she won an Amnesty International Award in 2003. That should tell you about all you need to know.

It isn't journalism, it is agenda-driven propaganda. Take anything Hala Jaber writes as propaganda.

I hope that the embeds are willing to "Dance Be shot with the one what brung them."

I think that all reporter's cameras should be properly checked before they go off into the field in Iraq. Make sure they're working fine.
And install a GPS receiver and a data transmitter that sends to the US where they are, the pictures, and voice. But don't tell the reporters that.
Look at all the great footage of them setting ambushes. Now, how did that smart bomb hit EXACTLY on top of the bomb makers?

My point is that The Sunday Times is part of Murdocks News International Group and that Al-Sadr is probably the least pro-Iranian of all the Shia factions in Iraq. Much less pro Iranian that the official , sanctioned, Govt of Iraq in fact.
And if Murdock publishes a piece on Al-Sadr, then just wait for a deal around the corner.

re: #56 Bob in Breckenridge

/That was Gomer Pyle. Shazam!

What a great show. There are 500 Quatloo on the line for anyone who can name Sgt. Carters girlfriend.

What's equally appalling is that she's not undergoing vigorous interrogation. The information she has could save a lot of American, British and Iraqi lives. The intel is fresh and it's a shame that it's not being squeezed out of her at this moment. There are multiple failures going on here.

re: #39 Killgore Trout

re: #14 threecoloursblue
Read the article. She watches them setting up sniper positions, making bombs and they discuss plans for future attacks with her. How many American and British lives will be lost because she doesn't alert the coalition? The families of the people killed will be reading these accounts of a fellow citizen who essentially participated in the attack. It's beyond reprehensible.

exactly, she is the enemy.

Jeez. Rupert Murdoch needs to have a word with the editor

She has crossed the line and should be targeted. Arrest if possible. Take down if in the act of preparing, executing an attack. It is perfectly clear she is one with the enemy.

re: #54 Bob in Breckenridge

Got a scout badge in it.

When Journalists embed with American or British troops they are to be protected and extracted by the troops who hate babysitting someone whom might write a scathing story about them back in the free world.

The Jidahists love journalists for the propaganda value but are more likely to beat feet should they come into contact with Coalition Forces and the journalist takes a hit. Probably better for the journalist since the medical care given by coalition troops is superior.

re: #65 Truck Monkey

What a great show. There are 500 Quatloo on the line for anyone who can name Sgt. Carters girlfriend.

bunny

The main part of the problem here is the fact that the Mahdi Army are pretty close to NOT being Britain's enemy. The reason Basra is in such a mess is because the British forces holed up in the airport and didn't budge, I can only imagine due to politicking from back home. There is a precedent, the security forces here in Britain have a standing agreement with Islamic terror groups; Leave Us Alone, and We Will Do Likewise. The attacks on London came as a retaliation for what was seen as a breach of that agreement, otherwise you just have to look at the state of 'Londonistan' to see how well it's worked. [spit] It's unofficial, but the pattern seems to fit. When Labour found it's support wavering at home due to domestic issues as well as foreign, and just after the change in leadership (Fuck you Brown), thus necessitating a 'distancing' from Blair's policies, the loss of British lives was deemed unacceptable, and so they were ordered to hunker down and take no action. Backdoor deals were either unofficially officially struck, or just allowed to evolve, whereby the British didn't interfere with the militias, and they were in turn left alone. Basra was allowed to come under full control of the militias and the situation prevalent until the Iraqi actions manifested. Many many people in Basra have very bad thoughts about the British, and most of them are deserved.

Likewise, the snubs given to the British by the Iraqi Army and politicians are profound; calling upon American forces when the Iraqi Army ran into trouble during the opening of the campaign, when the British were much closer, leaving the British Commander waiting for an audience etc etc...

I'm really really sickened that I can no longer feel proud of my country...

re: #64 threecoloursblue

I have no special love for Murdock. If one of his papers is responsible for this then fuck him.

Other examples of her work include:

American-backed killer militias strut across Iraq -- November 2007

She has an anti-American agenda in everything she writes. She has also apparently been caught attempting propagandizing too:

[Link: www.abc.net.au...]

re: #64 threecoloursblue

Al-Sadr is probably the least pro-Iranian of all the Shia factions in Iraq.

/well, that explains why he hangs out in Iran and is armed by them

Embedded with them for four days and three nights, I witnessed the fighting at close quarters, learnt of preparations being made by Mahdi special forces to spread the violence to other parts of Baghdad and heard their commanders swear to paralyse the government and destroy Maliki if their own leader authorises all-out war.

I guess we know who they are rooting for.

re: #59 doriangrey

This isn’t about what the British people think, it’s about how the British uber elitist liberal media thinks. You shouldn’t believe that the British media represents the views of the British people any more than the American uber elitist liberal media actually represent the views of the American people.

True this. I hope that the new Tory government over there will stand up for western civilization a little better than Labour. I see the rightward trend in Europe and am encouraged by it. Now if they would start having babies of their own they might not have to suffer second class (Dhimmi) status in their own countries.

re: #65 Truck Monkey

What a great show. There are 500 Quatloo on the line for anyone who can name Sgt. Carters girlfriend.

Bunny.

/didn't even need the Google

re: #64 threecoloursblue

My point is that The Sunday Times is part of Murdocks News International Group and that Al-Sadr is probably the least pro-Iranian of all the Shia factions in Iraq. Much less pro Iranian that the official , sanctioned, Govt of Iraq in fact.
And if Murdock publishes a piece on Al-Sadr, then just wait for a deal around the corner.

Bullshit.

Plus - Ms. Jaber has produced incorrect info for the Times before.

[Link: www.abc.net.au...]

She obtained and used a bogus mobile phone video supposedly of a murder of another journalist that was clearly not vid of the person murdered. Her description of the video states that the deceased was beheaded. The story was run in the Times, who refused to acknowledge an error. You can still find the original article, in full, with no corrections, here:

[Link: www.informationclearinghouse.info...]

She obtained the vid from "a Sunni source."

And here is a before an after of the deceased (warning on the after pic): [Link: www.sunflower.com...]

Obviously, she was not beheaded.

How much of what she obtains is fabricated? I don't trust anything she says.

OT; MPACUK seethes.....
The BNP's Second Favourite Candidate

Boris loves da Jooooos!

re: #65 Truck Monkey

What a great show. There are 500 Quatloo on the line for anyone who can name Sgt. Carters girlfriend.

Damn, I can see her but can't name her. And what the hell is a Quatloo? Wait, was it Bunny?

re: #79 Killian Bundy

Bunny.

/didn't even need the Google

see my 72..heh

re: #61 crosspatch

Sure --it's just as simple as one plus one equals two: how could she ever write one word except what they would approve, & be able to stay there?

re: #83 Bob in Breckenridge

Damn, I can see her but can't name her. And what the hell is a Quatloo? Wait, was it Bunny?

I was going to say Bunny. Drat.

A degree in journalism is not carte blanch to betray your country by abetting the enemy.
Seriously,hang the bastard for treason.

Who was Gomer's girlfriend?

/nevermind that Gomer is actually gay

re: #58 jaunte

One slight edit:
"The black-turbaned cleric, who has not been seen in public for almost a year and is believed to be bravely studying in Iran, also urged the Iraqi security forces to distance themselves from US and British troops."

What ever happened to lead from the front with the Jihadists? Oh yeah, send the young men and kids all pumped up with drugs to fight.

re: #88 Killian Bundy

Who was Gomer's girlfriend?

/nevermind that Gomer is actually gay

lou ann poovey

Just a fly-by hi and bye - I hope everyone's Saturday has been good.

re: #82 Killgore Trout

OT; MPACUK seethes.....
The BNP's Second Favourite Candidate

Boris loves da Jooooos!

Boris is kinda cute. :)

re: #84 joecitizen

see my 72..heh

at first I was thinking Lou Anne Poovie, Gomer's girlfriend.

Well hell, this ought to be worth a Nobel Peace Prize nomination, at the very least.

Anyone have any spare toilet paper?

re: #88 Killian Bundy

Who was Gomer's girlfriend?

/nevermind that Gomer is actually gay

Lou Ann. Gomer is NOT gay. ! The actor - yes. Gomer - no.

re: #74 Killgore Trout

To tell you the truth, I can't- don't(?) get the furore! How do you think you know about Al-Sadr in the first place if someone hadn't written about him and his Mahdi army?
Look. I worked in Northern Ireland in the 70's on a small town newspaper. I - we - were taken on shows by both the British army and by " activists"; " militants ". Now, ask me if anything I saw was real , or a set up. Go on ask me!

How did this turn into a Gomer thread?

re: #88 Killian Bundy

Who was Gomer's girlfriend?

/nevermind that Gomer is actually gay

Jim Nabors is singing "Back Home Again In Indiana" at the Indy 500 later this month, first time in 3 years.

re: #37 tubbyhubby

Fly by posting here, but...

Shot at dawn - tomorrow, not the day after. Maybe, and only maybe, offer him a cigarette before he goes to meet his creator. 100 years ago, nobody on the planet would have thought more than once on this solution to an obvious problem. Also sprach Zarathustra.

The problem (and Threecoloursblue exemplifies it) is that in 2008, most people are not thinking in war terms. Part of warfare is the psyops part. In WW2, people understood this. Today, because the war seems so far away, newspapers and civilians think that it's not about them.

If we had a serious war, then all restraints would be off. Traitors would be clapped in jail or shot. Reporters working for the enemy would be killed along with their military buddies.

Actually, we should be glad that things are as calm as they are. We're getting rid of a lot of Jihadists and their enablers, without most people being aware of it. Someday I'd love to read a book about the real war on terror.

They were already in bed, so they were just a few letters away anyway.

Noam, succinct.

re: #83 Bob in Breckenridge

Damn, I can see her but can't name her. And what the hell is a Quatloo? Wait, was it Bunny?

Quatloo...

re: #80 Noam Sayin'

And you know this... how?

re: #101 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Got a badge in that, too.

Heading out for a while. James Brown tribute at The Cabooze.

And when this "embedded Reporter" gets killed by coalition forces, his comrades will no doubt raise bloody hell about the poor "journalist" murdered by the American occupation forces.

re: #88 Killian Bundy

Who was Gomer's girlfriend?

/nevermind that Gomer is actually gay

A lot of guys that are gay have friends that are girls.

/

When American troops or Iraqi troops engage the Mahdi Army, they won't be sweating over who is and who is not an embed.

re: #96 threecoloursblue

To tell you the truth, I can't- don't(?) get the furore! How do you think you know about Al-Sadr in the first place if someone hadn't written about him and his Mahdi army?
Look. I worked in Northern Ireland in the 70's on a small town newspaper. I - we - were taken on shows by both the British army and by " activists"; " militants ". Now, ask me if anything I saw was real , or a set up. Go on ask me!

Cognito has a sock puppet eh.....

re: #103 threecoloursblue

And you know this... how?

Sadr has spent most of his time in the last six or seven months in Qom, studying to be an ayatollah. He is strongly supported by Iran. Mahdists are being caught with iranian made weapons. I'd go dig up some links, but as I mentioned, I'm heading out.

re: #58 jaunte

One slight edit:
"The black-turbaned cleric, who has not been seen in public for almost a year and is believed to be bravely studying in Iran, also urged the Iraqi security forces to distance themselves from US and British troops."

What.

re: #107 gman

When American troops or Iraqi troops engage the Mahdi Army, they won't be sweating over who is and who is not an embed.

Which is as it should be.

re: #105 Ziggy

And when this "embedded Reporter" gets killed by coalition forces, his comrades will no doubt raise bloody hell about the poor "journalist" murdered by the American occupation forces.

Any one remember that Italian journalist that ran a check point only to get her car shot up? Then she twisted it into "The Americans knew I was in the car and where trying to kill me to stop me from spreading the truth."

re: #104 Noam Sayin'

Got a badge in that, too.

Heading out for a while. James Brown tribute at The Cabooze.

Is that a bar in Mpls? I've been drunk there more than once. I saw the Suburbs there and I believe the Replacements and Paul Westerberg there as well. God I love that town.

re: #109 Noam Sayin'

Sadr has spent most of his time in the last six or seven months in Qom, studying to be an ayatollah.

/he'd be better off spending his time at the dentist

re: #103 threecoloursblue

And you know this... how?

Not that you asked me, but are you serious, dumbass? al-sadr high-tails it to Iran every time he thinks his fat ass might get shot by our coalition forces. Get a clue, moron.

re: #108 doriangrey

This is a blog. It's reactive, not proactive. Your indignation isn't being caused by a blogger, but by a journalist. In that sense Cognito usually has a point, even if he isn'y ballsy enough to defend it sometimes.

re: #96 threecoloursblue

To tell you the truth, I can't- don't(?) get the furore! How do you think you know about Al-Sadr in the first place if someone hadn't written about him and his Mahdi army?
Look. I worked in Northern Ireland in the 70's on a small town newspaper. I - we - were taken on shows by both the British army and by " activists"; " militants ". Now, ask me if anything I saw was real , or a set up. Go on ask me!

Maybe it was different in Northern Ireland. However, it's pretty clear that this particular reporter is a friend of the jihadists.

re: #115 Bob in Breckenridge

How do you know that he hightails it to Iran? Got an e-mail did you ?

Seems like there's an awful lot of effort and contorted machinations underway to try to convince folks that the "bad guys," aren't.

I don't get it. What's the possible upside for the paper by doing this?

Several people were said to be buried under collapsed buildings and the Mahdi Army – which, like Hezbollah in Lebanon, has made itself popular by providing welfare services to local people – had decided to take responsibility for rescuing them, even if that meant fighting its way to the scene.

So they bring all this death and destruction on the population and now they're freaking heroes?

re: #97 Catttt

How did this turn into a Gomer thread?

Schazzzzam!

re: #118 threecoloursblue

How do you know that he hightails it to Iran? Got an e-mail did you ?

that,friend,is fairly common knowledge to the even slightly informed..

re: #112 Idle Drifter

Any one remember that Italian journalist that ran a check point only to get her car shot up? Then she twisted it into "The Americans knew I was in the car and where trying to kill me to stop me from spreading the truth."

ROTFLMAO.....yup. I remember that one. Turned out that the Americans didn't know anything because the Italian government made a secret deal to get her freed and didn't tell the American commanders until about five minutes before her car was shot. It also turned out that there was American air born surveillance of the area that just happened to catch her car speeding through the checkpoint ignoring orders to stop, ignoring warning shots, and finally getting shot up.

re: #114 Killian Bundy

/he'd be better off spending his time at the dentist

Yeah, he does have some vile Chicklets doesn't he? Is Islam the only "religion" to actively support their own armed militias? There must be others. It just seems so weird. If my pastor was in the pulpit on sunday declaring that we must wipe out (fill in the blank) I do believe that I would find somewhere else to get spiritually fed.

re: #74 Killgore Trout

I have no special love for Murdock. If one of his papers is responsible for this then fuck him.

Why you hatin' on the Mad Dog? Murdock was my favorite A-Team character.

Dwight Schultz is a very funny guy and one of the few openly anti-idiotarian people in Hollywood.

There's a damn good reason why the muq man is on the downlow right now. He shows his face, and he's at extreme risk of being arrested and charged with the Iraqi version of sedition, which probably carries a sentence ranging from a very long time in jail to death.

Not a tough call.

Clearly this is just to help our enemies exercise their natural rights to kidnap journalists for their collection o' skulls without having to jump through a lot of hoops.

re: #117 Promethea

N.I. was no different. Back then the Sunday Times had a group called the Insight Team. Their work used to drive Maggie Thatcher nuts. Go do some digging.

re: #116 threecoloursblue

This is a blog. It's reactive, not proactive. Your indignation isn't being caused by a blogger, but by a journalist. In that sense Cognito usually has a point, even if he isn'y ballsy enough to defend it sometimes.

Like I said.....so cognito has a sock puppet....

re: #64 threecoloursblue

My point is that The Sunday Times is part of Murdocks News International Group and that Al-Sadr is probably the least pro-Iranian of all the Shia factions in Iraq. Much less pro Iranian that the official , sanctioned, Govt of Iraq in fact.
And if Murdock publishes a piece on Al-Sadr, then just wait for a deal around the corner.

Whoa. That statement is only about 180 degrees false. Other than that you are right on. Sadr is receiving money, men, and equipment directly from the Iranians. He has, on multiple occasions, personally sought refuge in Tehran. Other than all of the above, yeah, he's less pro-Iraninan...than Ahmedenijad, perhaps. Wow. Are you serious?

re: #122 joecitizen

that,friend,is fairly common knowledge to the even slightly informed..

/denser than a black hole this one is

re: #106 Truck Monkey

A lot of guys that are gay have friends that are girls.

/

Damn right! Gay men make terrific girlfriends! No sexual tension, and they totally get the shoe thing! LOL

On one side is the Iranian-backed Mahdi Army of the radical Shi’ite cleric, Moqtada al-Sadr, which is defending Sadr City

Defending the city from- democracy?

re: #109 Noam Sayin'

Sadr has spent most of his time in the last six or seven months in Qom, studying to be an ayatollah. He is strongly supported by Iran. Mahdists are being caught with iranian made weapons. I'd go dig up some links, but as I mentioned, I'm heading out.

Yoou don't have to we all know well most of us do.

re: #129 doriangrey

Like I said.....so cognito has a sock puppet....

Nah. Totally different modus operandi. This one is just plain dumb.

re: #118 threecoloursblue

How do you know that he hightails it to Iran? Got an e-mail did you ?

Forget it.

/Never argue with an idiot.

re: #125 Colonel Panik

Why you hatin' on the Mad Dog? Murdock was my favorite A-Team character.

Dwight Schultz is a very funny guy and one of the few openly anti-idiotarian people in Hollywood.

"I ain't gettin' on no plane Hanibal". Sure enough, every episode toward the end B.A. Baracus would be in the air in some craft flown by that crazy bastard Murdoch. What a show! It wasn't no Dukes of Hazard, but it sure 'nuff was good enough.

/sarc

re: #114 Killian Bundy

/he'd be better off spending his time at the dentist

Like this one?

re: #82 Killgore Trout

Binny rocks.

re: #132 Grammy Cracker

Damn right! Gay men make terrific girlfriends! No sexual tension, and they totally get the shoe thing! LOL

I am a Lesbian trapped in an ugly, fat, balding, middle aged mans body.

re: #138 x-ray

Like this one?

I didn't go to the dentist for 10 years after seeing that....

/YIKES!

I really don't mind "journalists" (used with all due looseness) going around with our enemies. I just wish they'd go to as much trouble to reveal our enemies movements as they do ours. I certainly do not consider it as legitimizing the Mahdi Bunch in any way. Any journalistic aggrandizement of them has to be dealt with after the fact anyway, and if they're inbedded (I like that one) when the ordnance arrives on target, all the better.

re: #140 Truck Monkey

I am a Lesbian trapped in an ugly, fat, balding, middle aged mans body.

Ya me too only I'm 5'8" and 156 lbs and fit.

Speaking of media, Fox just had Alex Jones on about prostitute conspiracies. Alex Jones on Fox?

re: #140 Truck Monkey

I am a Lesbian trapped in an ugly, fat, balding, middle aged mans body.

BWAAAAHHHH!

I used to tell aggressive creeps in bars that I was once a man. Since I'm 5'11, they usually bought it and left me alone. LOL

re: #118 threecoloursblue

How do you know that he hightails it to Iran? Got an e-mail did you ?

Are you normally in the habit of just whipping it out and pissing all over the place when the spirit moves you?

re: #135 EC Marm

Nah. Totally different modus operandi. This one is just plain dumb.

Well both claim to be journalists who jave kept company with terrorists. Odd's are they are one and the same person.

re: #145 Grammy Cracker

None of them found that the least bit fascinating?

Memo to all Lizards: Don't bother to post if comments go past 100. The thread bazooka is really firing hot tonight!

re: #144 kennyr

Speaking of media, Fox just had Alex Jones on about prostitute conspiracies. Alex Jones on Fox?

I'm watching Fox. The NASCAR race from Richmond, VA. is on.

Denny Hamlin is kicking ass.

re: #147 doriangrey

Well both claim to be journalists who jave kept company with terrorists. Odd's are they are one and the same person.

They may have similarities in dysfunction but the writing styles are completely different. We caught the one attempt that cog had at a sock puppet "eastender" right out of the gate.

One more reason to start requiring new lizards to pass a simple 10 question exam on previous LGF posts.

re: #130 kevinmumaw

I didn't say that he wasn't pro Iranian. I said that he was the least pro-Iranian of the Shia factions. In other words he's an Iraqi nationalist as well as being a Shia cleric. This stuff is all being discussed in Europe. Why is it such a mystery?

Thou shall fall in love with thy enemy.

From the Liberal Bible, Media version

re: #123 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO.....yup. I remember that one. Turned out that the Americans didn't know anything because the Italian government made a secret deal to get her freed and didn't tell the American commanders until about five minutes before her car was shot. It also turned out that there was American air born surveillance of the area that just happened to catch her car speeding through the checkpoint ignoring orders to stop, ignoring warning shots, and finally getting shot up.

And the moral of the story is... Approach checkpoints cautiously, individuals manning them tend to be slightly twitchy about anything that looks like it could be trying to kill them.

re: #148 markie

None of them found that the least bit fascinating?

Well, lemme see.... It's been a LONG time, but....

Back in the day, I was a bit of a, ahem...uh... _{disco duck
(ssssshhhh!) and most of the aggressive a*holes were - go figure - Arabic guys! It seemed to REALLY turn them off. LOL}

re: #131 Killian Bundy

/denser than a black hole this one is

Mr. Bundy and Mr. joecitizen, I think the point the fellow of three colors was trying to make was that unless you personally witness an event you have to get your knowledge of it from a journalist who writes about it. This is just my guess and I may be wrong but that was how it came over to me.

Of course in today's world you very well could have gotten that info from an Email or a phone call or even a photograph from a cell phone, journalist not necessary!

SF
BL

The phrase "in bed" with the enemy now has a second spelling.

Absolutely disgusting. But then as it was posted earlier: because hatred is best expressed openly.

re: #153 threecoloursblue

I didn't say that he wasn't pro Iranian. I said that he was the least pro-Iranian of the Shia factions. In other words he's an Iraqi nationalist as well as being a Shia cleric. This stuff is all being discussed in Europe. Why is it such a mystery?

Oh, being discussed in Europe you say? Well phew! That settles it then. Problem solved, we can all breathe easy since Europe is on the case.
/Please!

The spirit of Walter Duranty lives.

re: #155 NGrove

And the moral of the story is... Approach checkpoints cautiously, individuals manning them tend to be slightly twitchy about anything that looks like it could be trying to kill them.

Maybe the Italians thought the American soldiers would let them pull up and have a friendly chat like the way soldiers from other countries handle checkpoint security. Big mistake.

re: #153 threecoloursblue

This stuff is all being discussed in Europe

There's the problem. Start reading more LGF.

It is to cry.

This is actual treason and it is not seen as such any longer.

Some years back I worked for British Telecom in Atlanta. The brits really don't like America or Americans. I have to admit that I laughed my butt off when AT&T had BT for breakfast .

re: #162 gman

Maybe the Italians thought the American soldiers would let them pull up and have a friendly chat like the way soldiers from other countries handle checkpoint security. Big mistake.

Could be, but I am given to understand that you don't need to be in country as long as she or her driver had been to make the distinction. Ignoring warning shots also seems ill advised. Maybe its just me.

re: #157 BillLangston

You're more or less right. But begging the question... who originated the e-mail?

They cannot recognize treason anymore? Or act upon it?

Re:65
Sgt. Carter's girlfriend's name was Bunny. Gimmee my Quatloos!

re: #167 threecoloursblue

You're more or less right. But begging the question... who originated the e-mail?

A trooper on the ground maybe? Do you consider everyone that 'reports' on anything a journalist?

Many people that tell others about something they witness do not consider themselves journalists.

SF
BL

Damn someone beat me to it. Didn't read the rest of the thread. Is there a consolation prize? Maybe a tribble?

re: #169 Scont

Re:65
Sgt. Carter's girlfriend's name was Bunny. Gimmee my Quatloos!

see my 72

Even Sadr's supporters should probably hate his guts by now. Can you imagine how many of his own people he's gotten killed by having them try to go up against U.S. and Iraqi forces? Then again, Sadr's people expect celestial virgins as a reward for murderous idiocy.

As for this embed reporter with the Sadr army, I think the problem is not that she embeds with the enemy. The problem is that one suspects she likes the enemy. If a half-way objective reporter -- for example someone who definitely preferred freedom to Islamic law -- were embedded with the Sadr army, should an American object? Only if that reporter came back and wrote a piece warped by Stockholm syndrome.

re: #64 threecoloursblue

My point is that The Sunday Times is part of Murdocks News International Group and that Al-Sadr is probably the least pro-Iranian of all the Shia factions in Iraq. Much less pro Iranian that the official , sanctioned, Govt of Iraq in fact.
And if Murdock publishes a piece on Al-Sadr, then just wait for a deal around the corner.

Murdoch looks out for his own monetary interest. That's all.

If his paper is doing pro-Sadr stories, it because someone who works for him thinks it will sell papers and make Rupert richer.

That's why Fox is on this global warming thing. It's popular. And Murdoch thinks he can translate pro-ecology stories into advertising dollars in his pocket.

re: #159 NGrove

Oh, being discussed in Europe you say? Well phew! That settles it then. Problem solved, we can all breathe easy since Europe is on the case.
/Please!

Um..isn't Europe the continent that's still showing Ironside and Streets of San Francisco reruns?

Yeah, I feel confident they'll solve the worlds problems, make me some warm milk and tuck me in at night.

re: #65 Truck Monkey

Bunny! Wire transfer to my acct please.

re: #173 traeh

Even Sadr's supporters should probably hate his guts by now. Can you imagine how many of his own people he's gotten killed by having them try to go up against U.S. and Iraqi forces? Then again, Sadr's people expect celestial virgins as a reward for murderous idiocy.

Here is a link that has some comments on that thought.

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/05/ira qis_despise_the_m.php

I have never put a 'link' in here before, I hopt this works.
SF
BL

I don't even mind that they "embedded" a reporter with the enemy-- it's that they will inevitably give such whitewashed coverage to them that it's safe for the reporter to do such a thing that is an outrage.

There is nothing that can shock me anymore.

re: #178 capital L

I don't even mind that they "embedded" a reporter with the enemy-- it's that they will inevitably give such whitewashed coverage to them that it's safe for the reporter to do such a thing that is an outrage.

Even moonbats follow the supply/ demand model.

They demand whitewashed coverage

Shazam!

a supply of embedded reporters appears

I personally doubt that the Sunday Times embedded anyone. They lie about everything. Real bastards.

Remember, they're the "Israeli Ethno-Bomb" hoaxters. Never fessed up to it, either.

Remember the axiom- lies, damned lies and statistics? Amend to lies, damned lies and embedded reports from journalists with the enemy!

re: #166 NGrove

Could be, but I am given to understand that you don't need to be in country as long as she or her driver had been to make the distinction. Ignoring warning shots also seems ill advised. Maybe its just me.

You would think, but look at the way moonbat journalists see it:

"We have repeatedly expressed concerns about U.S. procedures at military checkpoints," Joel Campagna, Middle East and North Africa senior programme coordinator at the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ), told IPS. "Sgrena's case has highlighted U.S. military failure to develop and put in place adequate safety procedures at checkpoints."

re: #150 Bob in Breckenridge

I was obviously watching the wrong Fox channel. It was Giraldo on FNC that I was watching. But still, Alex Jones on Fox?

re: #173 traeh

...Stockholm syndrome.

Speaking of which, has everyone noticed yet that a large part of Europe suffers from a sort of Stockholm syndrome in relation to European Muslims and the Muslim world? It's the beginning of dhimmification, i.e., the psychological and behavioral submission to Islamic supremacy socially and legally. To read about the centuries long history of dhimmitude imposed on non-Muslims in the Muslim world, read books by Bat Ye'or or Andrew Bostom. If not strongly resisted, dhimmification apparently starts to set in when a nation's Muslim population goes above some surprisingly modest percentage. After all, Europe currently only has, what?, 5% Muslims? And the dhimmification there is getting pretty remarkable already. See Bruce Bawer's absolutely outstanding recent article An Anatomy of Surrender.

According to Stumbling Toward Eurabia, by Alex Alexiev, the Muslim population of Europe is growing between 225,000 and 400,000 per year, while the non-Muslim population is shrinking by about 2.3 million per year.

re: #185 traeh

According to Stumbling Toward Eurabia, by Alex Alexiev, the Muslim population of Europe is growing between 225,000 and 400,000 per year, while the non-Muslim population is shrinking by about 2.3 million per year.

Oops, the 225,000 to 400,000 figure was based on reproduction rates only. To that, Alexiev says, one must add perhaps as many as 500,000 Muslims who are immigrating to Europe per year. He also says that by 2035, we can expect the Muslim population to have quadrupled in Europe, while the non-Muslim one will have dropped dramatically. Alexiev says that in 2035

... (and possibly earlier), the majority of young people in most large European urban centers will be Muslims.

that "reporter" is now the enemy.

Nice of the Sunday Slimes to put the Iranian made tandem RPG warhead up front where we can all see it.

Good probability that the PKM light machinegun in the rear is of Iranian origin as well.

Did the Sunday Slimes imbed with the _azi military during WW2?

OWN
GOAL,
R

As if it matters.

If they dont get what they want, they make shit up. You don't have to embed anybody for that.

How's the credibility of the MSM lately?

I want to see Hala Jaber tossed into Guantanamo Bay..

Embedding with the Mahdi Army.

Since the press didn't give enough credence and page space to terrorist arguments and propaganda already.

They're the enemy. They're specifically there to help the cause of the enemies of Iraq and Iraq's allies, the U.S. and coalition armed forces.

Target 'em and kill 'em.

They wanna play insurgent, let em get the full show. It's time they find out this isn't a f'in game.

They hate America? Let's really give em something to hate us for.

Anyone read the comments for the lead story? Straight up fascinating in their ability to be transfixed and persuaded by the propaganda.

Hala Jaber...

[Link: www.abc.net.au...]

UH
HUH,
R

I am sure that this British fish wrapper is the envy of the MSM around the world.

Pasha Gordon couldn't be reached for comment.

Oh, and this is great.

Hopefully, all the anti-American scum 'journos' will embed themselves with the terrorist forces.

Now we'll finally be allowed to shoot the bastards.

Well you wouldn't expect the Times to embed a reporter with the ENEMY would you?!

Funny thing that happens with the Mahdi army....they are killed, collaborators and all.

wow...Mahdi army will be sold out by media plants who will sell stories to the highest bidder. Who's to say a beat reporter or two will slip through the mahdi vetting process?

imo,
a rash of journalist deaths ( for spying) will be reported in the media....and the US will be attacked for allowing it to happen.

I wonder if any Times reporters were embedded with the Luftwaffe during the Blitz?

The NYT would not only embed a reporter with these scumbags, the reporter would be the one with the rocket launcher.

Maybe she'll marry dahr jamail....The moonbats love this guy. Not sure of his game. He seems to "cowrite"(cough) an awful lot of his articules. Sometimes I think he just publishes reports that would instantly be rejected if the scource were known.

Is it so terrible that the public have an inside look at the Mahdi army? If it is so awful, as many posters on this site have claimed, then maybe the public will see that through this kind of reporting.

The "embed" in question has already been caught fabricating a story out of thin air.

The "embed" in question has a long record of being a propaganda mouthpiece for Islamic terrorist groups.

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Would it be so terrible for the public to have an inside look at US troops operating within Sadr City from somebody that is actually embedded in the region?

[Link: www.longwarjournal.org...]

[Link: www.longwarjournal.org...]

[Link: www.longwarjournal.org...]

TRUTH
BE
TOLD,
R

lazypadawan beat me to it. Been watching the gradual escalation of treason by the media for decades now. It is only a matter of time before we learn of a "journalist" who has been shooting actual weapons at our troops.

Rupert Murdoch owns the Sunday Times and has since 1981.

The Sunday Times also published the faked _itler Diaries in 1983.

It was the Sunday Times that broke the story that Israel has over 100 nuclear weapons.

It's sister publication The Times endorsed the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion on its front page in 1920 and called Jews the worlds greatest danger. After one of their own reporters exposed it as a forgery, The Times retracted its story a year later.

The Times was well known for its advocacy of the policy of appeasement with the _azis in the 1930's.

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The more things change, the more they stay the same.

CAST
IN
STONE,
R

I'm kind of amazed there are any Sadrites left for them to follow around.