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Steyn: To Obama, 'We' Means 'Me'

Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:16:04 am PDT

Mark Steyn on Barack Obama’s sudden decision to throw his pastor of 20 years under the bus: To Obama, ‘we’ means ‘me’.

The notion that the Amazing Obama might be just another politician doing what politicians do seems to have affronted the senator more than any of the stuff about America being no different from al-Qaida and the government inventing AIDS to kill black people. In his belated “disowning” of Wright, Obama said, “What I think particularly angered me was his suggestion somehow that my previous denunciation of his remarks were somehow political posturing. Anybody who knows me and anybody who knows what I’m about knows that – that I am about trying to bridge gaps and that I see the – the commonality in all people.”

Funny how tinny and generic the sonorous uplift rings when it’s suddenly juxtaposed against something real and messy and human. As he chugged on, the senator couldn’t find his groove and couldn’t prevent himself from returning to pick at the same old bone: “If what somebody says contradicts what you believe so fundamentally, and then he questions whether or not you believe it in front of the National Press Club, then that’s enough. That’s – that’s a show of disrespect to me.”

And we can’t have that, can we?

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1 DesertSage  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:16:45am

Obama is toast!

2 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:17:11am

Time for the hip waders
It's getting deep

3 bunker buster  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:19:28am

Wow. B-HO's every bit as narcissistic and self-centered as his spiritual advisor, Jerry Wright. Who'd-a thunk it?

4 MandyManners  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:19:57am

re: #1 DesertSage

Obama is toast!

And, a donut.

5 bunker buster  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:20:29am

re: #4 MandyManners

And, a donut.

More like flakes.

6 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:20:46am

re: #4 MandyManners

And, a donut.


Are donuts Halal ?
hahahahah

7 debutaunt  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:20:51am

Character? Content?

8 DesertSage  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:20:57am

re: #4 MandyManners

And, a donut.

Actually, he's a waffle.

9 JammieWearingFool  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:21:00am

By this time next year I expect to see Obama and his wife wearing NOI gear and shouting at people on a street corner somewhere.

10 Shug  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:21:33am
The Amazing Obama


Master Practitioner of Three Card Monty and other tricks

He can pull hope from a hat and make grandmothers and reverend's disappear into thin air.

11 rawmuse  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:21:44am

Obama is NOT toast. My prediction is that he will be the Dem nominee, and he will give McCain fits in the months to come. Many people will vote for Obama based only on his youth and good looks, and by then the Reverend problems will have faded to the background.

And, Steyn is great, because, almost every column I read by him, I learn a new word. Today's word is "simulacrum".

12 Shug  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:21:50am

re: #1 DesertSage

Obama is toast!


marble rye

13 bunker buster  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:21:51am

re: #7 debutaunt

Character? Content?

This is a Democrat presidential primary. You expected either of those?

14 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:22:25am

If he loses the primary does he have a backup plan ?

15 debutaunt  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:22:26am

re: #10 Shug

Master Practitioner of Three Card Monty and other tricks

He can pull hope from a hat and make grandmothers and reverends disappear into thin air.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA

16 kynna  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:22:49am

Nailed!

Mark Steyn is laser-guided in this piece. I adore him!

17 Maine's Michael  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:22:54am

Steyn continues to amaze me.

The man is without peer in terms of getting right to the nub of the matter in the most entertaining manner.

The guy is like a funny Kissinger.

18 RememberSekhmet?  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:23:29am

re: #6 LeftJustAintRight

Are donuts Halal ?
hahahahah

Looks like Duncan Donuts is

19 MandyManners  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:24:08am

re: #18 RememberSekhmet?

Looks like Duncan Donuts is

That's what I was referring to.

20 nyc redneck  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:24:13am

the good rev is a narcissist, w/ a monumental ego, who craves and needs the spotlight at all costs, and barack is a terrible judge of character.

21 nyc redneck  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:25:10am

re: #9 JammieWearingFool

By this time next year I expect to see Obama and his wife wearing NOI gear and shouting at people on a street corner somewhere.

too bad times square is so cleaned up now.

22 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:25:11am

re: #16 kynna

Mark Steyn


Damn Jooooo will not leave Obama Hussein alone

23 Shug  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:25:14am

and yet the fools continue to swoon

24 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:25:48am

I forgot the
/sarc

25 jcm  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:26:47am

The leader of votes, super delegates, and delegates going to Denver is in flames and going down.

How could it get any better.

26 JammieWearingFool  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:27:05am

re: #21 nyc redneck

too bad times square is so cleaned up now.

I remember those clowns from some years ago standing on crates harassing people.

Black Israelites or something like that.

27 Josephine  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:27:52am

No one gets away with dissing the Great Obama!

Hate America and Whitey all you want but dissing the Big O is crossing a line!

/What a creep.

28 haakondahl  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:28:33am

re: #25 jcm

The leader of votes, super delegates, and delegates going to Denver is in flames and going down.

How could it get any better.

Denver Control, this is Obama One--I am declaring an in-flight emergency! Request straight-in approach from the East.

29 ethanxxx  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:28:38am

CAUTION! YOU WILL LAUGH YOUR A$$ OFF!

Jemima Wright on Conan O'Brian

30 Sunlight  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:28:59am

re: #22 LeftJustAintRight

Damn Jooooo will not leave Obama Hussein alone

He's Jewish? (Never crossed my mind...)

31 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:29:07am

Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.
Barack Obama
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Barack Obama
Junior Senator
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Serving with Richard Durbin
Preceded by Peter Fitzgerald
Member of the Illinois State Senate
from the 13th district
In office
January 8, 1997 – November 4, 2004
Preceded by Alice J. Palmer
Succeeded by Kwame Raoul
Born August 4, 1961 (1961-08-04) (age 46)
Honolulu, Hawaii, U.S.
Nationality American
Political party Democratic
Spouse Michelle Obama (m. 1992)
Children Malia Ann (b. 1998),
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Residence (Kenwood), Chicago, Illinois
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Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (born August 4, 1961) is the junior United States Senator from Illinois and a candidate for the Democratic Party's nomination in the 2008 U.S. presidential election. He married in 1992 and has two daughters. Obama has written two books: a memoir of his youth titled Dreams from My Father, and a personal commentary on U.S. politics titled The Audacity of Hope.

Born to a Kenyan father and an American mother, he passed most of his childhood and adolescent years in Honolulu, Hawaii. At age six, he moved to Jakarta where he lived with his mother and Indonesian stepfather for four years. A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, Obama worked as a community organizer, university lecturer, and lawyer before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004.

Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for U.S. Senate in January 2003. After winning a landslide primary victory in March 2004 to become the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004. He was elected to the U.S. Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.

As a member of the Democratic minority in the 109th Congress, he cosponsored legislation to control conventional weapons and to promote greater public accountability in the use of federal funds. He also made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. In the current 110th Congress, he has sponsored legislation regarding lobbying and electoral fraud, climate change, nuclear terrorism, and care for returned U.S. military personnel. Since announcing his presidential campaign in February 2007, Obama has emphasized ending the war in Iraq, increasing energy independence, and providing universal health care as top national priorities.
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Barack Hussien

32 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:29:16am

re: #26 JammieWearingFool

they used to have a TV show on the Bronx local access channel years ago - I used to always watch it

hysterical - they would be wailing and gnashing teerth while waving menorahs around the room dressed like Levite Temple Priests

33 Onslow  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:29:22am

More from the column:


"It was never a great speech. It was a simulacrum of a great speech written to flatter gullible pundits into hailing it as the real deal. It should be "required reading in classrooms," said Bob Herbert in the New York Times; it was "extraordinary" and "rhetorical magic," said Joe Klein in Time – which gets closer to the truth: As with most "magic," it was merely a trick of redirection."

I love how Steyn gut punches the commentariat.

34 Blackacre  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:29:41am

Make no mistake. The belated denunciation of the Rev. Wright was a set-up. The Philadelphia speech did not stop the festering. So the Reverend doubled-down on his hate-filled rhetoric, with the goal of presenting the Obamessiah with yet another opportunity to try to put distance between the two of them. Now, of course, we're told by Obamarosa and the like that it's time to "move on." How convenient. Well I'm not buying it.

One more thing. If it was the Reverend Wright who, according to the Obamessiah, helped him find his Christian faith, then that is sufficient -- in and of itself -- to cause me great pause. Wright's hate-filled vision of Christianity is well outside the mainstream and yet that's what's filled the empty vessel.

35 haakondahl  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:29:59am

re: #26 JammieWearingFool

I remember those clowns from some years ago standing on crates harassing people.

Black Israelites or something like that.

You mean these idiots?

36 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:30:10am

Jammie those guys were not NOI though

37 Shug  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:30:12am

re: #29 ethanxxx

CAUTION! YOU WILL LAUGH YOUR A$$ OFF!

Jemima Wright on Conan O'Brian


I wish I could give that 100000 (+)'s

38 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:31:22am
39 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:31:35am

We are all racist homophobe Islamophobe Bigots for not accepting Barack Hussein and all his ideas.
We are all damned to hell

40 jcm  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:31:48am

re: #28 haakondahl

Denver Control, this is Obama One--I am declaring an in-flight emergency! Request straight-in approach from the East.

You'll have to hold Broom-1 is clean in before you....

41 nyc redneck  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:32:01am

re: #26 JammieWearingFool

I remember those clowns from some years ago standing on crates harassing people.

Black Israelites or something like that.

they were fascinating to watch. i thought they were NOI. i really liked their '60's skinny lapel suits, peg leg trousers and narrow ties. and wing tips. those guys had the style down and the ranting was hilarious. it was a nice show for 10 minutes if you were walking by. i used to see them on canal st. too. lots of white devil stuff. lol

42 jemima  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:32:08am

These 3 people, Wright, The Obamagician, and Michy have egos that are drunk on their new-found notoriety. They careen through the American landscape, unable to touch their fingers to their commonsense, unable to walk the straight line of truth, unable to speak without hiccuping their inebriated nonsense. Someone put them into a 12-step program before they hurt themselves or someone else (like us).

43 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:32:13am

re: #35 haakondahl

You mean these idiots?

Factology!
LOL!

44 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:32:41am

re: #37 Shug

I wish I could give that 100000 (+)'s

very funny
I'm watching now

45 leboaz  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:33:26am

Steyn -as usual- is brilliant. " like Teresa Heinz Kerry with a chip on her shoulder" What an image!

46 JammieWearingFool  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:33:32am

re: #35 haakondahl

You mean these idiots?

Could have been them. Not sure. All I know is I steered clear of them.

47 haakondahl  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:34:03am

re: #40 jcm

You'll have to hold Broom-1 is clean in before you....

Negative, tower, Broomstick One is Four hundred yards behind me, blasting away with her .50cals!

48 seekeroftruth  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:34:31am

I love how he nails Michelle Obama & Rev Wright at the same time:

I'm not sure why Michelle would stick "pastor of a church" in that list of downscale occupations: Her pastor drives a Mercedes and lives in a gated community. But, insofar as I understand Mrs. O, she feels that many Harvard and Princeton graduates have to give up their life's dream of being a minimum-wage "community organizer" (whatever that is) and are forced to become corporate lawyers, investment bankers and multinational CEOs just to pay off their college loans. I'm sure the waitresses and checkout clerks nodded sympathetically.
49 rawmuse  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:35:18am

re: #29 ethanxxx

CAUTION! YOU WILL LAUGH YOUR A$$ OFF!

Jemima Wright on Conan O'Brian

That was frikkin' hysterical!

50 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:35:35am

Go Typical White Conan!

51 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:35:43am

(I threw this into the prior thread -- will re-post it here, as pertinent.)

Obama would be wise to be secretly hoping that he DOESN'T win the nomination. If Hillary wins, and loses in November, he can maintain the fictional "himself" that he's desperately trying to salvage right now. That's his only chance to get into the White House (in 2012 or later -- this year is closed off to him.) If he wins in Denver and leads the Party to defeat, his chances at the Oval Office are finished.

52 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:36:01am

blackne!

53 Ornery Potlicker  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:37:49am

Can't we just finish my waffle?

54 gymnast  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:38:14am

Now that the Reverend Wright never goes out in public without his NOI, Rukn bodyguards It is only a matter of time until Barack Obama shows up with his own NOI Rukns. Jesse Jackson has his NOI Rukn protection detail with him all the time and is rumored to be the franchise owner for this virtually unknown "security service".

55 Shug  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:38:37am

The Fruits of Islam

56 kynna  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:38:57am

re: #22 LeftJustAintRight

Damn Jooooo will not leave Obama Hussein alone

Is Steyn Jewish? I'm sure the perception that he is will make some quarters disregard his superior intellect and message regardless of what religion he practices.

I love to listen to him on Hugh Hewitt's show. I'll hang in the car for an extra 15 minutes or more if I know he's going to be on.

57 nyc redneck  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:39:18am

re: #42 jemima

These 3 people, Wright, The Obamagician, and Michy have egos that are drunk on their new-found notoriety. They careen through the American landscape, unable to touch their fingers to their commonsense, unable to walk the straight line of truth, unable to speak without hiccuping their inebriated nonsense. Someone put them into a 12-step program before they hurt themselves or someone else (like us).


they are so in over their heads, it's getting embarrassing to watch. they should have just gone on the jerry springer show and called it a holiday.

58 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:39:20am
Jesse Jackson has his NOI Rukn protection detail with him all the time and is rumored to be the franchise owner for this virtually unknown "security service".

AKA the fruit of islam

59 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:39:51am

re: #55 Shug

The Fruits of Islam

Are you sure we are not the same person you big OT?

60 jcm  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:40:20am

re: #47 haakondahl

Negative, tower, Broomstick One is Four hundred yards behind me, blasting away with her .50cals!

Obama-1 BREAK RIGHT! BREAK RIGHT!

Negative tower, unable to turn right.

Obam-1 to Tower, dispensing defensive measures, ejecting grandma and Rev. Wright as decoys.

61 pegcity  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:40:53am

We called it here folks way back in October

62 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:41:00am

re: #61 pegcity

yup

63 Shug  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:41:14am

re: #59 BabbaZee

Are you sure we are not the same person you big OT?

well we're both cool

64 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:41:19am

re: #56 kynna

Is Steyn Jewish? I'm sure the perception that he is will make some quarters disregard his superior intellect and message regardless of what religion he practices.


I was channeling a leftard
I forgot my sarc tag sorry
I have no problem with Styn

65 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:41:51am

re: #63 Shug

;~}

66 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:42:45am

O J was Innocent ?
Damn Wright was OJ's spiritual advisor too ?

67 Dianna  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:42:52am

re: #51 pre-Boomer Marine brat

We can only hope they go down. The next four years are likely to be critical, and it would be bad to have Obama in office.

68 debutaunt  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:44:37am

re: #52 BabbaZee

blackne!

His daughters Uday and Kusay!

69 gymnast  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:45:03am

re: #58 BabbaZee

The Rukn is the interesting part of the Johnny Fort, Jesse Jackson connection and has it's roots in the Hyde Park of the late 50s and early 60s.

70 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:45:11am

re: #60 jcm

... ejecting decoys ...

LOL -- that's a WONDERFUL scene to imagine!

71 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:45:23am

Tricknology ?

72 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:45:28am

Steyn's background is sort of a mystery
his origins (and questions about his sexuality) are murky and I think he does that deliberately and i don;t blame him one bit
Mark Steyn is not his real name
he has said in places he was born Jewish and raised Catholic
and goes to Baptist church now

73 haakondahl  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:46:47am

re: #60 jcm

Obama-1 BREAK RIGHT! BREAK RIGHT!

Negative tower, unable to turn right.

Obam-1 to Tower, dispensing defensive measures, ejecting grandma and Rev. Wright as decoys.

Obama One, we just had a look at you from another aircraft, and it appears that the Rev. Wright is tangled up in your wife nacelle. Looks like you're going to have to jettison Michelle or you won't make the airfield.

74 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:48:01am
75 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:48:10am

re: #1 DesertSage

Obama is toast!

Only if you stick him in one of the slots and depress the lever.

/after it pops up, butter, peanut butter, jelly, it's all good

76 rawmuse  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:48:15am

Don't forget that Obama has money to burn, and McCain does not. McCain has a tin cup that he is rattling half-heartedly. McCain has a base of voters that is largely demoralized. Contrast that with the Obama base. You that think Obama is finished are whistling past the graveyard, IMHO. The American electorate is not what is was, even in 2004.

77 Ojoe  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:49:50am

These people understood "We":


Union Dead at Gettysburg

Lincoln Enters Richmond

God bless America

78 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:50:40am

re: #67 Dianna

Wesley Pruden (Wash.Times) wrote on Friday: "... all the Republicans have to do to preserve an authentic shot at keeping the White House is to save the unpredictable John McCain from John McCain ..."

That's the way I see it. The GOP still has a shot at "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory." (I forget who said that. It was decades ago.)

79 psyop  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:50:48am

“What I think particularly angered me was his suggestion somehow that my previous denunciation of his remarks were somehow political posturing. Anybody who knows me and anybody who knows what I’m about knows that – that I am about trying to bridge gaps and that I see the – the commonality in all people.”

The unfortunate thing for Obama is that his denial that he is politically posturing is in and of itself political posturing.

It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.

80 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:51:30am

re: #79 psyop

The unfortunate thing for Obama is that his denial that he is politically posturing is in and of itself political posturing.


A technique of propaganda called "Turnspeak"

81 RedinCAf  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:51:40am

OT: The blog I proudly host with fellow lizaroid Carridine has a new look...a look that we are hoping to stick with this time since tweaking new themes is a slow and frustrating task for this near-computer-illiterate! Please stop by and let us know what you think!

I Call BS!

82 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:51:59am

re: #81 RedinCAf

Excellent!

83 Ojoe  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:52:25am

re: #1 DesertSage

Actually he is a toasted waffle.

84 Bob in Breckenridge  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:52:27am

re: #17 Maine's Michael

Steyn continues to amaze me.

The man is without peer in terms of getting right to the nub of the matter in the most entertaining manner.

The guy is like a funny Kissinger.

Actually, he's more like George Will with a sense of humor, IMHO.

85 Racer X  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:52:58am

re: #76 rawmuse

Don't forget that Obama has money to burn, and McCain does not. McCain has a tin cup that he is rattling half-heartedly. McCain has a base of voters that is largely demoralized. Contrast that with the Obama base. You that think Obama is finished are whistling past the graveyard, IMHO. The American electorate is not what is was, even in 2004.

I gotta disagree with you on that one. Maybe some, but no where near all.

Kerry had piles of money and look what it got him.

The dems are totally split and it is getting uglier each day. Come November they will be demoralized.

86 Shug  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:53:25am

re: #83 Ojoe

Actually he is a toasted waffle.

Leggo my eggo

87 Ojoe  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:54:11am

re: #13 bunker buster

Why should government money at any level be spent to put on elections for political parties which are in effect private clubs? Let it all be done in the smoke filled back rooms.

88 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:54:19am
89 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:54:51am

Obama / Carter 08 !

90 Sunlight  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:55:05am

re: #72 BabbaZee

My husband has a radar for these things that I'm lacking and astounded by.

91 rawmuse  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:55:18am

re: #85 Racer X

My views are undoubtedly influenced by my locale (Nothern Ca.), but I do travel a fair amount. There is a large conservative electorate that will NOT vote for McCain and have sworn to sit on their hands this election. I think those voters are key.

92 Ojoe  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:55:48am

re: #89 LeftJustAintRight

Spock / Yoda '08

93 LeftJustAintRight  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:56:03am

Obama could do us all a favor and throw carter under the bus beside Wright and grandma

94 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:56:08am

re: #76 rawmuse

It is what it is, you can only do what you see fit to do.

/remember, your part is to be what you'll be

95 Dianna  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:56:18am

re: #78 pre-Boomer Marine brat

He's right.

Depressing, isn't it?

96 Sunlight  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:56:39am

re: #72 BabbaZee

Could you please look at #238 on the London mayor thread and let me know what you know?

97 MandyManners  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:57:11am

re: #93 LeftJustAintRight

Obama could do us all a favor and throw carter under the bus beside Wright and grandma

The Party of the Big Bus.

98 Racer X  Sun, May 4, 2008 9:59:04am

re: #91 rawmuse

Perhaps. National polls continue to show McCain winner against both Hillary and Obama. And with the dems continuing to sling mud at each other McCain just needs to sit back and let them have at, then stroll in to the white house in January.

re: #78 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The GOP still has a shot at "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory."

Yep.

99 Dianna  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:00:05am

re: #91 rawmuse

I think those voters need their heads examined.

Little as I like McCain, and as unhappy as I am, I'm voting for him. He doesn't seem to me the sort of man who will stave off the nanny state, but at least he has some grasp of the danger of islamofascism.

Neither Hillary nor Obama seem to me to have the least grasp of the danger, and they both want to smother us all in the embrace of the nanny state.

100 hermeneutics  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:00:08am

re: #76 rawmuse

Rawmuse is absolutely correct -- Obama is still potent and likely to win the national election if he isn't exposed and countered at every turn ... by us. In spite of Steyn's wonderful prose, most of the MSM adore Obama. They're not willing or able to look at him objectively and see his serious shortcomings, empty language or short vita. Thus, a rounded assessment of Obama will come from people on sites such as this, to be circulated at the workplace, neighborhoods and families.

I get scared when I hear Lizards pronouncing Obama "toast" -- its premature and dangerous.

101 babes  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:00:11am

re: #49 rawmuse

LMAO

A screen warning should be issued so that people will not be drinking liquids while watching it.

102 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:00:41am

re: #90 Sunlight

lol some people are good at that

So long as people keep their personal personal
and don't pervert it into
the weapons of mass gramscianwhorism
it's fine with me.
Good for him for never answering it
becasue it is no one's freaking business but his and GOD's.

103 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:01:01am

re: #96 Sunlight

which one there have been a few London Mayor ones

104 kynna  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:02:07am

re: #64 LeftJustAintRight

I was channeling a leftard
I forgot my sarc tag sorry
I have no problem with Styn

I knew you were channelling. I didn't think that was you talking. LOL.

I actually don't know if Steyn is Jewish. But you're right, they react that way with him. And he will always be disregarded because his name sounds Jewish regardless of whether or not he is.

Just like the leftards go apesh*t when someone goes on Fox News. Disregard the message because of the vessel.

105 rawmuse  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:03:07am

You can't discount altogether the possibility of McCain sticking his thumbs in the eyes of people attempting to support him, for which he has an amazing propensity, and a long and verifiable track record.

I just don't want to see us grow complacent. Go McCain!

106 haakondahl  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:03:22am

Battle Hymn. Reagan.

107 yochanan  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:03:48am

re: #29 ethanxxx

CAUTION! YOU WILL LAUGH YOUR A$$ OFF!

Jemima Wright on Conan O'Brian

g.d. you damn i got to get a new screen too much spitle on this one.

108 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:04:20am

re: #95 Dianna

He's right.

Depressing, isn't it?

Not depressing from my perspective. (I'm not a fan of McCain, but ...) we could be doing far worse. I'm willing to give him a chance in the Oval Office, preserving my bitching rights at the same time.

109 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:07:00am

re: #91 rawmuse

I think those voters are key.

Amen.

I'll wait and see what they do come November, but if they sit this one out, they will be damned by their own little self-centered hands in my book.

110 nyc redneck  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:07:20am

re: #100 hermeneutics

Rawmuse is absolutely correct -- Obama is still potent and likely to win the national election if he isn't exposed and countered at every turn ... by us. In spite of Steyn's wonderful prose, most of the MSM adore Obama. They're not willing or able to look at him objectively and see his serious shortcomings, empty language or short vita. Thus, a rounded assessment of Obama will come from people on sites such as this, to be circulated at the workplace, neighborhoods and families.

I get scared when I hear Lizards pronouncing Obama "toast" -- its premature and dangerous.

don't forget that the msm was also shilling big time for jon cary and he ended up toast. (french toast)

111 wolfie  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:07:33am

re: #91 rawmuse

Well, I'm with you on this one, muse, or at least I'm not ready to eat the waffle before it's grilled. Once this primary is over, the MSM will be four-square behind the Democratic candidate and totally hostile to McCain. Do not underestimate their power with the fuzzy center. Serious, actual faults of the Democrat will not be publicized; every trivial gaffe that McCain makes will be blown into a huge story. (Can you spell m-a-c-a-c-a ?)
My audacious hope is that the damage to Obama has already been done and that the electorate will not forget it. I hope they are downright bitter and clingy.

112 Bob in Breckenridge  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:09:47am

re: #97 MandyManners

The Party of the BigShort Bus.

Fixed.

113 Catttt  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:11:58am

re: #45 leboaz

Steyn -as usual- is brilliant. " like Teresa Heinz Kerry with a chip on her shoulder" What an image!

:) That was my favorite line. Perfect.

114 Ackomanyuki  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:12:12am

An apropriate title may be "The Rise and Fall of Jiggy Stardust" or maybe just a little Zappa ditty that just about sez it all.

"Yo Cats" Frank ZappaYo cats, yo yo
Yo chooch, way to go
You is dead, but you don't know
Yo let's carve, hey where's the blow?

Get your fiddle, get your bow
Play some footballs on your hole
Watch your watch, play a little flat
Make the session go overtime, that's where it's at

Saxophone, clarinet
How many doubles can you get
Special rules provide the way
To help you maximize your pay

Your girl, arlyn's, what's the diff
What's the service that you're with
So long as you can suck the butt
Of the contractor who calls you up

Your career could take a thud
Unless you kneel and scarf his pud
And when the dates come rolling in
You can wipe your lips and flash a grin
That tells them all on the jingle date
That you enjoyed what you just ate

Yum yum, dog food
Hemorrhoid cream but the bread's so good
New rv and a leisure suit
Hey, I play shit but I love the loot

Thank the union, it's so great
Only a few get to be on the date
Those other shmucks with electric guitars
Got to play for poot in the bistro bars

You have made it, you are cool
You have been to the berkeley (Harvard) school
You give clinics on the side
Music (Hope) has died and no one cried

Yo cats, yo yo
Yo chooch way to go
You is dead!

Hey! have a nice one, guy!

115 RememberSekhmet?  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:12:49am

re: #35 haakondahl

You mean these idiots?

My religion can best be described as Egyptian Reconstructionist. A board or two or five I was on for a while was flooded with those nutballs. It was amusing and disturbing to have amateur and not-so-amateur Egyptologists being denounced by people who thought Cleopatra was black.

116 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:15:21am

re: #115 RememberSekhmet?

Kemetism?

117 RememberSekhmet?  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:22:06am

re: #116 BabbaZee

Kemetism?

re: #116 BabbaZee

Kemetism?

Kemetic Protestant (Independent) would be the best way to describe it.

118 RememberSekhmet?  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:22:50am

Babba, if you come to Austin, you can throw me in Lake Austin come next Passover :D

119 neocon hippie  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:27:45am

I'm really hoping Hillary wins by a healthy margin in Indiana and comes surprisingly close to Obama in NC.

120 yochanan  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:28:51am

re: #77 Ojoe

These people understood "We":


Union Dead at Gettysburg

Lincoln Enters Richmond

God bless America

With out Abe there would be no America as we know it maybe two or there countries instead of one.

121 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:32:15am

re: #118 RememberSekhmet?

Babba, if you come to Austin, you can throw me in Lake Austin come next Passover :D

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

122 vagabond trader  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:32:29am

re: #81 RedinCAf

Loved that transgender story, sent it to a semi moonbat friend who also has an 8-9 year old boy.Remains to be seen if she finds this repulsive or compulsive. lol.

123 BabbaZee  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:32:31am

re: #117 RememberSekhmet?

interesting.

124 RedinCAf  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:36:31am

re: #122 vagabond trader

I'll be interested to hear her response! Perhaps you could post it at I Call BS!?

125 Clio  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:36:56am

re: #104 kynna

I knew you were channelling. I didn't think that was you talking. LOL.

I actually don't know if Steyn is Jewish. But you're right, they react that way with him. And he will always be disregarded because his name sounds Jewish regardless of whether or not he is.

Just like the leftards go apesh*t when someone goes on Fox News. Disregard the message because of the vessel.

Steyn is not Jewish.
To quote Caroline Glick's definition of him: "Mark is not a Jew, he just plays one on television."

126 Pygmalienation  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:45:09am

"The notion that the Amazing Obama might be just another politician doing what politicians do seems to have affronted the senator more than any of the stuff about America being no different from al-Qaida and the government inventing AIDS to kill black people."
To me, that's the money quote.
I saw Hannity's compilation piece on the Obama/Wright train wreck and was impressed at how REALLY bad it looked when Obama's speeches were sequentially presented. There were also a lot more Wright Rants presented as well, that I'd never seen before-- not just 'snippets', either. The guy was saying some simply horrible things. To their credit (and my personal relief...), there were a lot of folks in the congration who seemed fairly put off by what was being spewed from the pulpit. But, alas, they were there...

127 nyc redneck  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:51:24am

re: #126 Pygmalienation

hannity has been on this rev wright story for over a yr. i remember when he had him on the radio, i think it was last april. it took this long for the msm to determine that the facts were relevant. assh*les.
thank god for talk radio, conservative book publishers and the internets.

128 vagabond trader  Sun, May 4, 2008 10:51:52am

re: #124 RedinCAf

lol, she'll most likely ignore it, but will do if she bites.

129 Pygmalienation  Sun, May 4, 2008 11:04:55am

re: #127 nyc redneck
pimf: congration=congregation...
True
He really was on it from way back--he's had the goods on this guy for a while. I remember seeing the "Mission Statement" for Obama's church and thinking the same thing as a lot of others, namely, if you replaced the word black with white, you'd have a 'Christian Identity' type church.

130 vagabond trader  Sun, May 4, 2008 11:13:23am

What astonishes me is the way the Obamatons are twisting the facts to accommodate their weird adoration for the guy.It's nearly pathological.

131 realwest  Sun, May 4, 2008 11:18:31am

Hey y'all - just an update for those of you who are interested: I had a nice "chat" via- e-mail with USMC 1968 - he is not alone, although I do not know where he lives.
I offered some help from some former Marines and/or some help from LGFer's if he wanted it and I gave him my phone number (typing on the computer is sometimes somewhat difficult for him) and haven't heard from him since my last e-mail.
But at least he's not alone and he's comfortable with the way his life is going.

132 benthoven  Sun, May 4, 2008 11:29:49am

re: #34 Blackacre

Make no mistake. The belated denunciation of the Rev. Wright was a set-up.

The more I've considered this, the less likely I think it is. Neither of these clowns is sophisticated enough to play it this way. I think it's just what it appears to be - naked raw hatred and a relationship between two men of sycophantic black racism. The slave has left his master and the master is not pleased about it.

133 Blackacre  Sun, May 4, 2008 11:53:45am

re: #132 benthoven

We'll agree to disagree on this one.

134 kynna  Sun, May 4, 2008 11:57:55am

re: #125 Clio

Steyn is not Jewish.
To quote Caroline Glick's definition of him: "Mark is not a Jew, he just plays one on television."

Thanks Clio!

But his name sounds Jewish when you say it out loud. Therefore whatever he's saying must be a lie! /channeling moonbat racists

135 big L  Sun, May 4, 2008 12:03:44pm

JUst what Rush said. That the GOP won't run against these two idiots and Jaun M'Cain will run the 'Marquis-de-queensbury' gentleman campaign (instead of knee-to-groin), so it is up to Operation Chaos and the Rush listeners to take it to this jug-eared wanna-be commie.

Politically I wish him the worst, just as he would (will) do to me and my family when he is elected. Oh yes! President Obama is really close.The press will cover only favorable crap even more, and M'Cain will get his TANG phony-memos story.And a made-up drunk-driving charge just before the election.A lie to sink the GOP.
Better focus of Senate.Congress races.

136 big L  Sun, May 4, 2008 12:05:10pm

focus ON senate and congressional races

137 Genosaurer  Sun, May 4, 2008 12:41:47pm

re: #7 debutaunt

Character? Content?

Hope! Change!

138 debutaunt  Sun, May 4, 2008 12:42:57pm

re: #137 Genosaurer

Hope! Change!

There sure isn't any character.

139 vagabond trader  Sun, May 4, 2008 12:46:32pm

Wondering which side of the brain houses delusions of moral superiority.

140 Ojoe  Sun, May 4, 2008 12:51:45pm

re: #120 yochanan

If Abe and the Union people had not persisted we would not have been there to help stop Hitler only 80 years later.

Absolutely everything you do counts for good or evil in ways that sometimes you cannot even imagine.

141 Miss Molly  Sun, May 4, 2008 12:56:57pm

I don't think there is any way to hide the fact that Obama has known about the good Rev Wright's thinking from the day he joined the church. No doubt he joined that particular church because that was required to get him elected to the State Senate. Obama is interested in getting elected and will do whatever he has to do to get elected. When he gets the nomination from the Dems this most likely will be just the beginning of the things we will learn about Rev Wright. No doubt there is lots more to be learn about this group!

142 Protagonist  Sun, May 4, 2008 3:16:12pm

As the Dem primary goes on, my thoughts keep going back to the movie Citizen Kane and the line in that movie by Charles Foster Kane's campaign manager after he lost the election:

You talk about ''the people,'' as though you own them, as though they belong to you. Goodness. As long as I could remember, you've talked about ''giving the people their rights,'' as if you could make them a present of liberty.

If When McCain wins, it'll be because--for all his faults--he walks, talks and looks like a real American. Hillbama sound like they don't even belong to this country, like two foreign ambassadors from Liberalstan trying to convince the natives that acceptance of imperial colonization is best for them, like Marie Antoinette and the Persian envoy from 300 competing for our votes. One of these guys is in for a rude awakening when they have to start (gasp!) dealing with conservative viewpoints. The other is just in for a rude awakening.

143 pbird  Sun, May 4, 2008 4:23:41pm

re: #30 Sunlight

He's Jewish? (Never crossed my mind...)

He aint.

144 offendi  Sun, May 4, 2008 5:41:05pm

The Republicans biggest problem this year frankly is their candidate. Hillary is doing the heavy lifting by exposing Obam-asama as the liberal and defense wimp that he is, but the Republican nominee, John McCain, thinks he can win somehow by playing it super nice. He will get a rude surprise in the general election when Obama smacks him around on his age and never-met-a-lobbyist-he-didn't-like rep. To me he kind of already looks a little befuddled in trying to appeal to all people, over all different issues. Won't work John.

Maybe McCain has a better shot, whatever it is, with a milk toast like Obama. You know Billary would pull out all the stops to get Hills in office if she is the nominee.

The most amusing thing about poor Obama having to run against Clinton machine is that he had to order a "Bud" the other day out on the campaign trail. You just know he really wanted a Chardonnay instead.

145 oneboowetweft  Sun, May 4, 2008 7:33:49pm

Hope! Change!
...Character!?

146 Alone in NY  Sun, May 4, 2008 7:56:43pm

The more light gets focused on Barry O., the more he clearly is a fake and unsuited for the office of President of the United States.


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