Where's her evidence that we think we're superior?

Great way to bring us all together.

There once was a writer named Quinn
Who wanted Islamists to win
She said with great dread
As they lopped off her head
Guess I'll join my column in the bin

And a message of black liberation theology is basically Confucius’ message of do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

Confucius wrote The Golden Rule?

Speaking for herself. no one has finished one of columns in years.

Confucius?

From above,

"Most people in this country are Christians, and you look at the Christians and they go to their white churches. And you wonder how they can call themselves Christians and still look at other people as though they are inferior."

This passes for profundity at Wapo, I assume.

And a message of black liberation theology is basically Confucius’ message of do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

No longer confucius.

They mean to confuse us

And you wonder how they can call themselves Christians and still look at other people as though they are inferior.

How the hell did she come to that conclusion?

Typical white cracker who is sorry to be a white cracker.

"I ain't saying I'm better than you are,
But maybe I am."

-Randy Newman "I'm Different"

First they be comin' for the Saturday people of Zion
Now we be comin' for your clingy Jesus honky asses

[REDACTED]

re: #4 Noam Sayin'

Confucius wrote The Golden Rule?

Well since Jesus is considered white by Quinn, she assumes he had to stolen it from somewhere.

Goodness, what awful writing!

Seems like she just doesn't like Christians, but she can't say anything bad about black Christians, cause you know, they're black so therefore get special, protected status from the likes of Sally Quinn.
I find it odd that she says, "Confucius’ message of do unto others as you would have others do unto you." Confucius, you see, not Jesus.

re: #11 rawmuse

"I ain't saying I'm better than you are,
But maybe I am."

-Randy Newman "I'm Different"

Ain't gonna play no Boss-Man's game!

And you wonder how they can call themselves Christians and still look at other people as though they are inferior.

Where did that come from?!

re: #1 MandyManners

Where's her evidence that we think we're superior?

We have faith, while all she has is doubt.

Our strength born of our faith makes her feel insecure in her doubt.

This article doesn't even make sense. bah

To be fair - that quote is from an appearance on Charlie Rose, not a written column by Quinn.

re: #1 MandyManners

Where's her evidence that we think we're superior?

Only in her mind, MM... only in her mind.

JAFLW

And you wonder how they can call themselves Christians and still look at other people as though they are inferior.

The only mention of inferiority came from Rev. Wright, who took Rudyard Kipling's poem, "White Man's Burden" - which was an argument for the United States to enter a conflict in the Philippines, and turned it into something he imagined. (Press Club)
I still remember a childhood Christian song from many decades ago, "Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight." Rev. Wright is the bigot.

re: #8 onslow

She's seem ignorant to that Christianity comes in all colors......
But hey, I'm just bitter and clinging to my guns & Bible - what would I know. /

This is a Take Your Kid To Work thing, right?

And you wonder how they can call themselves Christians and still look at other people as though they are inferior.

Hey Sally, can you say transference?

How far could she have gone without Ben Bradlee?

to see his career completely destroyed by three 20-second sound bites, all of the work he has done, his entire legacy gone down the drain, has been absolutely devastating to me -- to him, sorry.

-Quinn

Dear Miss Sally Quinn, When you find any white Christian Church that preaches the same things Jeremiah Wright does, only with the a pro-white slant instead, please fell free to call them all a bunch of racists and hypocrites who know nothing about Christianity.

re: #21 Charles

To be fair - that quote is from an appearance on Charlie Rose, not a written column by Quinn.

Ah. That's what I get for not RTFA.

BREAKING -

The Flight 93 Memorial controversy has finally made MSM news, above the fold on the Fox website.

The controversy over the memorial site began when the Flight 93 Advisory Commission announced a memorial design from Paul Murdoch Architects of Los Angles called "Crescent of Embrace," that included a crescent of maple trees around the crash site.

Some critics say its crescent-shaped design call to mind Islam or subtly include the hijackers alongside the passengers and crew.

The National Park Service, which is managing the construction of the memorial, denied those claims, but changed the design to more of a circle, and dropped the name.

Read it all . . .

Babba, that was pretty lame.

re: #18 Dianna

Classic transference. Quinn sees Christians as though they are inferior.

re: #26 markx

Hey Sally, can you say transference?

Yep. She's the one who thinks the rest of us are inferior.

Don't you realize that if all you melanin challenged GOD mouths would just lay down under this niiiice bus
everything would get better?

re: #21 Charles

To be fair - that quote is from an appearance on Charlie Rose, not a written column by Quinn.

Ah! She didn't have an editor to clean up after her.

Forgive her, she knows not what she is doin' .

Or was that arrogant and looking at them as though they are inferior?

re: #26 markx

Hey Sally, can you say transference?

I'll bet she can't spell it

Just remember, black children learn differently than white children.

/different brain structure or some such bull[expletive deleted]

re: #4 Noam Sayin'

Confucius wrote The Golden Rule?

Go figure that, huh?

re: #32 haakondahl

oh well.

They are known to the world on a double first name basis: Ben and Sally.

Before Bennifer, before Brangelina, they took one look at each other and it was Kismet. He was barrel-chested and gravelyvoiced, always dashing in English shirts and a loosened tie. She was blonde and witty, a military brat in oversized sunglasses and mini skirts. Her admirers were legion: Warren Beatty, Warren Hoge. His female admirers included Jackie Kennedy and Lauren Bacall, who calls him “Benji.”

And so, Ben landed Sally, soon followed by his divorce from then-wife Toni. Although perhaps apocryphal, the story goes like this: she was looking for a job and walked into the Washington Post one day to apply for a party reporter position. He was smitten. She told him one salient detail; she had never written a story before.

“Nobody’s perfect,” he barked. Sally went on to fame as a seriously edgy Style writer who was nicknamed “Salty” Quinn. No one was more deft in getting well-known subjects to reveal their foibles. Who was it? Henry Kissinger, who said that being interviewed by gossip columnist Maxine Cheshire made you want to kill her. Being interviewed by Sally Quinn made you want to kill yourself.

SNIP

She said:
"Reverend Wright, lionized by some of the great white theologians in this country, .."

Does anybodye here have any idea who these 'great white theologians' might be?

Most people in this country are Christians, and you look at the Christians and they go to their white churches.

I go to a red brick church with large stained glass windows.

re: #34 MandyManners

Exactly. She is a classic case.

they are trying to white wash black liberation theology.
that is not going to work w/ most of the people in this country who have heard the hate spoken over and over by the charlatans who perpetrate this ugliness.

What a rocket scientist - white people are racists, I've seen white peolpe going into churches, and therefore christians all think they are superior. When we all know the black liberationists are superior. Duh.

I wrote an article like this one, but I was in kindergarten bemoaning how some of the superior first graders were. And then I hit first grade.

Rather than transference, it's more likely that she is displaying projection:

A defense mechanism in which the individual attributes to other people impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot accept. It is especially likely to occur when the person lacks insight into his own impulses and traits."

re: #46 nyc redneck

they are trying to white wash black liberation theology.

Hmmm... when you whitewash black you just get gray.

My church is sort of beige with a lot of beige people inside. Maybe she is talking about the trim.

re: #49 jaunte

Rather than transference, it's more likely that she is displaying projection:

A defense mechanism in which the individual attributes to other people impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot accept. It is especially likely to occur when the person lacks insight into his own impulses and traits."

Put too many of them in one place and you'll get The Daily Kos (and DU, and HuffPo, and ...)

re: #43 yma o hyd

She said:
"Reverend Wright, lionized by some of the great white theologians in this country, .."

Does anybodye here have any idea who these 'great white theologians' might be?

Nope, not me. I could give you a list of great white theological hucksters, but true theologians, not in the US and mostly not recently.

re: #49 jaunte

Rather than transference, it's more likely that she is displaying projection

You're right. I stand corrected.

/no wonder I got a C in Psychology 101

I have to google Sally Quinn because I remember her from during the Clinton regime. Saying some extremely elitist things. Am I getting her mixed up with someone else?

In any case Ms. Quinn wouldn't know a white Christian if they gave up their cab for her on a rainy day ... which they probably have.

Oh, noez.

WL: You have been to many fabulous parties over the years given by great hostesses such as Pamela Harriman, Kay Graham, Susan Mary Alsop, and Evangeline Bruce, to name a few. Sally, you are on the record as saying that society is dead in Washington today. Do you think that there’s anyone who can compare to these women today?
SQ: That kind of entertaining, that kind of life, those people— just doesn’t exist anymore and never will again.

WL: Why?
BB: Lots of money, millions of bucks!
SQ: They had money, knew how to entertain [and] were brought up to be hostesses. They were raised by nannies and their children were raised by nannies. It was an era when family was not all that important. When Evangeline went to Europe with David Bruce, she left her children with a German nanny on 9th street because she felt that having the children there would get in the way of their entertaining.

SNIP

re: #43 yma o hyd

She said:
"Reverend Wright, lionized by some of the great white theologians in this country, .."

Does anybodye here have any idea who these 'great white theologians' might be?

Her smug white liberal friends.

re: #55 kynna

I have to google Sally Quinn because I remember her from during the Clinton regime. Saying some extremely elitist things. Am I getting her mixed up with someone else?

In any case Ms. Quinn wouldn't know a white Christian if they gave up their cab for her on a rainy day ... which they probably have.

She is an extreme elitist. I'm posting snippets from the article I linked above.

I'd rather be raised by a German Nanny than Sally

re: #52 Spiny Norman

It's hard to walk a mile in someone else's shoes.
/What if they never wore socks?

re: #59 Shug

I'd rather be raised by a German Nanny than Sally

I wonder if Ben Bradlee had kids with the wife he dumped for her.

and you look at the Christians and they go to their white churches.

My if she didn't just "look" and actually checked it out, she could get the real facts.
And from my experience, there are no "white" churches. Churches usually reflect the racial makeup of the community they are in.

re: #54 markx

On the other hand, I can never remember what transference means.

Next thing you know she'll be calling for interchurch bussing just to be fair and all...

I managed to miss most of the PC indoctrination in college (my major wasn't the kind of major where stuff like that was possible), but I once did have a teacher inform me of what I later learned was a basic tenet of neo-leftism:

Minorities are by definition incapable of racism. Because, you see, racism now has the definition, "biased attitudes exhibited by the oppressing class." Therefore, in America, only "white" people can be racists.

Thus, even the most "love-your-brother" white Christians are inherently racist, and the most hate-filled black supremacist churches are admirable.

Her hubby's bio at Wiki.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #53 galloping granny

Nope, not me. I could give you a list of great white theological hucksters, but true theologians, not in the US and mostly not recently.

Thats what I thought!

I can name a few (white) true theologians, even in the US.
Would have surprised me enormously if any of them would endorse, never mind 'lionize' Jeremy Wright.

re: #67 MandyManners

Her hubby's bio at Wiki.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

He's practically royalty!

But my church has almost every ethnicity I can think of, red and yellow, black and white. I'm so confused. I guess us white ones is still racists.

re: #62 MadJadBad

There are a strain of "Christian Identity" churches which are like the white equivalents of Wrights crap but that is not what she is referring to.

re: #47 buzzsawmonkey

Thank you - that brought tears to my eyes ...

I don't get it. How is Black Liberation theology the embodiment of the Golden Rule?

That's ridiculous.

re: #64 buzzsawmonkey

"Lionized?" He must be their mane man.

Simba down there pal.

I don't think I've ever seen as clear an example of White Guilt. It's so strong with Quinn, you wonder if it has crossed the bridge from a psychological disorder to a physically manifest state. If so, then perhaps a physician from Tuskegee could do a biopsy and find a cure!

I wonder what church Sally attends?

Wait, does she even attend church or is she just projecting her white guilt?

re: #55 kynna

I have to google Sally Quinn because I remember her from during the Clinton regime. Saying some extremely elitist things. Am I getting her mixed up with someone else?

In any case Ms. Quinn wouldn't know a white Christian if they gave up their cab for her on a rainy day ... which they probably have.

Here's what Sally says at her OnFaith site:

I announced to my parents when I was 13 that I was an atheist. And I was a committed atheist all of my life. My view was that more evil had been done in the name of religion than anything else in the world.I saw no redeeming value in it at all.

Link...

From what I see of Black Liberation Theology, even Rev Wright's (borrowed heavily from James Cone), it is rooted in Elija Muhammad's teachings that blacks are the chosen people, and all whites are devils.

White Hatred In Black Liberation Theology

It's odeous, as if the Civil War and the civil rights movement never happened.

re: #73 Pastorius

I don't get it. How is Black Liberation theology the embodiment of the Golden Rule?

.

BLING !

re: #43 yma o hyd

She said:
"Reverend Wright, lionized by some of the great white theologians in this country, .."

Does anybodye here have any idea who these 'great white theologians' might be?

Perhaps the Archbishop of Shariabury would like Wright.
Or the fuehrers of the Aryan "Christian" Identity movement.

re: #66 zombie

I have heard that many times
from many people

re: #73 Pastorius

I don't get it. How is Black Liberation theology the embodiment of the Golden Rule?

That's ridiculous.

Opress others as they have opressed you?

re: #69 MandyManners

I guess as an aristocrat, she is obliged to condescend.

re: #57 Spiny Norman

Her smug white liberal friends.

That figures!
(If being a smug white liberal now makes you into a theologian ...)

re: #66 zombie

A+......perhaps you will consider presenting yourself as a doctoral candidate in Peace and Justice Studies ? :D

re: #53 galloping granny

Oh, I could -- his advisor, martin marty at University of Chicago.

And a message of black liberation theology is basically Confucius’ message of do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

The Golden Rule.

Common to just about every culture and religion in the world.

Pre-dates even Confucius.

I think this is what they call "fortune cookie research."

Interfaith dialogue =

Bash 'em over the head. Move the goalposts. Negotiate.
Bash 'em over the head. Move the goalposts. Negotiate.
Bash 'em over the head. Move the goalposts. Negotiate.

re: #83 jaunte

I guess as an aristocrat, she is obliged to condescend.

And, she can do it from one of her three houses.

Jest a wee bit of Liberal White Guilt.

re: #75 uptight

I don't think I've ever seen as clear an example of White Guilt. It's so strong with Quinn, you wonder if it has crossed the bridge from a psychological disorder to a physically manifest state. If so, then perhaps a physician from Tuskegee could do a biopsy and find a cure!

Perhaps she should spend more time in a tanning salon?

Gramsci / Hegemony

politicize the personal
make each into an "oppressed underclass"
use them as a club with which to beat the "enemy" (us) into submission
after that is accomplished
either the club submits to the state
as well
or
the club, no longer being useful, is purged

re: #77 ornery elephant

I announced to my parents when I was 13 that I was an atheist. And I was a committed atheist all of my life. My view was that more evil had been done in the name of religion than anything else in the world.I saw no redeeming value in it at all.

Well, that explains it. She's stereotyping that which she knows nothing about. She's doing exactly what she accuses others of doing.

re: #53 galloping granny

Nope, not me. I could give you a list of great white theological hucksters, but true theologians, not in the US and mostly not recently.

C.S. Lewis comes to mind immediately, but,
1) He's dead, and
2) He wouldn't be seen with the likes of Rev. Wrong

JAFLW

Oldest trick in the book.

To hide one's shame: accuse others of doing exactly what you are doing with tons of evidence to the contrary.

This is typical liberalism. I'm used to being called a bigot, a racist, a hatemonger, a chickenhawk. All because I have different views and can back up my reasoning with sound logic.

I wonder if she owns a "peace" scarf?

In fact, the exact quote come from Jesus, not Confucius:

Matthew 7:12
"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets."

One thing that annoys me about this story is that's just badly written. Present me with rubbish ideas, but at least wrap it with some skill.

And then there's the contortion to rob Christianity of any value:

And a message of black liberation theology is basically Confucius’ message of do unto others as you would have others do unto you. We are our brother’s keepers.

Actually, no, Jesus popularized this as the 'Golden Rule' during his sermon on the mount. Confucius proposed what is generally called the 'Silver Rule,' which is a passive negative: "Don't do unto others what you wouldn't have them do unto you.'

Confucius deserves credit, of course. But Quinn strives to take credit away, where it's due.

Quinn must have been nodding in agreement and saying "Amen". When Obama described those clinging white folk he knows.

re: #77 ornery elephant

Good find, Ornery. I'm reading through the comments now.

Zombie,

You said The Golden Rule is common to every culture and religion in the world.

You want to tell me where the Golden Rule is articulated in Islamic theology?

re: #74 Shug

Simba down there pal.

Don't listen to her, buzzsaw -- take pride in your comment.

re: #60 jaunte

It's hard to walk a mile in someone else's shoes.
/What if they never wore socks?

...especially if they pinch. Think about it...

JAFLW

(Tapping on desk, looking at watch, drinking glass of water, thinking about sex, tapping on desk some more)

Sorry y'all but I'm in the process of fixing my mouse so please ignore any posts I make - ya know, the way you usually do!

re: #66 zombie

Minorities are by definition incapable of racism. Because, you see, racism now has the definition, "biased attitudes exhibited by the oppressing class." Therefore, in America, only "white" people can be racists.

Remember the uproar at University of Delaware last year ?

That's it to a tee. A BIG F***ING BINGO.

re: #101 Pastorius

Zombie,

You said The Golden Rule is common to every culture and religion in the world.

You want to tell me where the Golden Rule is articulated in Islamic theology?

Zombie said "just about"

re: #101 Pastorius

Zombie,

You said The Golden Rule is common to every culture and religion in the world.

You want to tell me where the Golden Rule is articulated in Islamic theology?

OK -- here (not that they live up to any of this):

Golden Rule in Islam

In his Last Sermon, the Prophet Muhammad admonished believers:
"Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you."
Jeffrey Wattles holds that the ethic of reciprocity appears in the following statements attributed to Muhammad: [20]
“Woe to those . . . who, when they have to receive by measure from men, exact full measure, but when they have to give by measure or weight to men, give less than due”[21]
The Qur'an commends "those who show their affection to such as came to them for refuge and entertain no desire in their hearts for things given to the (latter), but give them preference over themselves"[22]
“None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself.”[23]
"Seek for mankind that of which you are desirous for yourself, that you may be a believer; treat well as a neighbor the one who lives near you, that you may be a Muslim [one who submits to God]."[24]
“That which you want for yourself, seek for mankind.”[24]
"The most righteous of men is the one who is glad that men should have what is pleasing to himself, and who dislikes for them what is for him disagreeable."[24]

re: #101 Pastorius

Zombie,

You said The Golden Rule is common to every culture and religion in the world.

You want to tell me where the Golden Rule is articulated in Islamic theology?

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, except for the buggery of animals , the opression of women, the beheading of the kuffar and the general mayhem death and destruction. TYou know All of the bad stuff, Do unto them before they do unto you first

Hail Buzzsawmonkey, Great White Theologian and Member of the Elders of Zion!

re: #80 wolfie

Perhaps the Archbishop of Shariabury would like Wright.
Or the fuehrers of the Aryan "Christian" Identity movement.

Quickly googled that Aryan 'Christian' Id entity thingie, and was sick after reading a few paragraphs! They would certainly nt be that far removed from Jeremy wright.

As for the Archbishop - much as his speech is regretted by all, he is still far too good a theologian to associate himself with that Jeremy W.
No need to stick him in the same drawer as those despicable @aryan' "Christians2.

re: #109 zombie

Old Mo sure had a bad case of diarrhea of the mouth.

re: #107 buzzsawmonkey

What you call "the Silver Rule" and condemn as "a passive negative" is the way the rule is enunciated by the sage Hillel. And without wishing to start a theological wrangle, it is--in my opinion--more respectful of other persons, for it does not impose one person's likes upon another, but merely causes them to refrain from inflicting hurt upon another.

Well, first of all I didn't condemn it. I mean literally it's cast in the passive negative voice.

Secondly, there's nothing in the Golden Rule that imposes "one person's likes upon another." That's a real effort to find something nasty where there's no such thing.

re: #107 buzzsawmonkey

Hillel was still alive when Jesus walked.
just sayin.

lol

We need to remember that the Sally Quinns of the world usually live in a bubble sealed off from the great unwashed clingers. It is highly likely that she has ever associated with a real Christian and she knows nothing about them.
They might as well be Martians. Her whole notion of a "white Christian" is just that, a notion......a strawman living only in the moon-world of the left.

re: #112 yma o hyd

Quickly googled that Aryan 'Christian' Id entity thingie, and was sick after reading a few paragraphs! They would certainly nt be that far removed from Jeremy wright.

As for the Archbishop - much as his speech is regretted by all, he is still far too good a theologian to associate himself with that Jeremy W.
No need to stick him in the same drawer as those despicable 'aryan' "Christians".

PIMF!
Sorrrrreeeee .....

re: #112 yma o hyd

Same shit, different color

re: #116 wolfie

We need to remember that the Sally Quinns of the world usually live in a bubble sealed off from the great unwashed clingers. It is highly likely that she has ever associated with a real Christian and she knows nothing about them.
They might as well be Martians. Her whole notion of a "white Christian" is just that, a notion......a strawman living only in the moon-world of the left.

She lives in a very nice bubble.

OT:

What happened with Pro-Bush Canuck? He got banned? I know he was going through a very hard time with his sister's lymphoma. What happened?

re: #113 MandyManners

Old Mo sure had a bad case of diarrhea of the mouth.

Don't for get Lockjaw of the Brain as well...

JAFLW

Ok, Zombie said "just about" as gman pointed out.

I need to improve my reading comprehension.

OT: George Jonas responds to Canada's Maclean's magazine cover story "WHY ISRAEL CAN'T SURVIVE"

re: #121 neocon hippie

OT:

What happened with Pro-Bush Canuck? He got banned? I know he was going through a very hard time with his sister's lymphoma. What happened?

Apparently he uncorked some oddball off-topic insults towards Charles, just out of the blue. Not sure what the motivation was.

Black Liberation Theology is not about The Golden Rule, it adheres more closely to Orwell's famous quote:

"Some ... are equal, but some ... are more equal than others"

I just need new glasses.
/blind!

re: #98 Cognito

It's a Newsbuster article covering a Charlie Rose Transcript of an interview with Sally Quinn.

re: #125 zombie

Was he banned, Zombie?

re: #125 zombie

jagermeister and grief most likely

re: #125 zombie

His sister is apparently ill with a lymphoma. Not making excuses for what he did but just trying to understand.
maybe lots of Jack Daniels too.

Hey, typical whitey, it's way more than fifty years ago.

/don't you feel guilty for what may or may not be your racist white ancestors might have did, when are you going to pay up?

re: #112 yma o hyd

You are absolutely right. I don't think the Archbishop of Canterbury, silly as he may sometimes be, would approve of either BLT or ACI pseudo-Christianity.

Golden rule expression in Islam, limited to fellow club-members:
"None of you truly believes unless he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself."

re: #122 Just Another Four-letter Word

Don't for get Lockjaw of the Brain as well...

JAFLW

Maybe he caught something from a camel. Or, a goat.

re: #109 zombie

(not that they live up to any of this)

Oh, but they do. It's just that they define the other person, e.g. "mankind", as only those belonging to the Umma. It's very convenient.

(should I put a sarc on that? hmmmm...?)

again shug
lol

re: #105 realwest

Sorry y'all but I'm in the process of fixing my mouse so please ignore any posts I make - ya know, the way you usually do!

...and by 'mouse' you mean...

Sally Quinn... unhinged moonbat for WhoringforIslam Post.

again babba

Zombie,

Look at that, Muslims EVEN fuck up the Golden Rule.

Read this closely and think about what it means:

“That which you want for yourself, seek for mankind.”[24]
"The most righteous of men is the one who is glad that men should have what is pleasing to himself, and who dislikes for them what is for him disagreeable."[

That is not the Golden Rule, it is a plan for totalitarianism, my friend.

Abrogation, indeed.

re: #73 Pastorius

I don't get it. How is Black Liberation theology the embodiment of the Golden Rule?

That's ridiculous.

As the loathsome Rev. Wright might say, "Do Unto Whitey".

re: #134 jaunte

Golden rule expression in Islam, limited to fellow club-members:
"None of you truly believes unless he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself."

One of my personal favorite links on earth:

Always tell the truth ....Sometimes!

re: #140 Shug

I know it's frkkkin INSANE

re: #130 BabbaZee

jagermeister and grief most likely

re: #131 Shug

His sister is apparently ill with a lymphoma. Not making excuses for what he did but just trying to understand.
maybe lots of Jack Daniels too.

I think you both may be on to something.

re: #1 MandyManners

Where's her evidence that we think we're superior?

From the words of J. Wright himself:

African-centered thought, unlike Eurocentrism, does not assume superiority and look at everyone else as being inferior.

Linky thingy (see bullet item 7)

re: #97 zombie

In fact, the exact quote come from Jesus, not Confucius:

So Jesus was quoting Confucius without attribution?
/:0

re: #141 Pastorius

Zombie,

Look at that, Muslims EVEN fuck up the Golden Rule.

Read this closely and think about what it means:

“That which you want for yourself, seek for mankind.”[24]
"The most righteous of men is the one who is glad that men should have what is pleasing to himself, and who dislikes for them what is for him disagreeable."[

That is not the Golden Rule, it is a plan for totalitarianism, my friend.

Very astute observation!

re: #146 zombie

I think you both may be on something.

fixed

re: #147 Opilio

Linky thingy (see bullet item 7)

So, an atheist is taking the word of a racist on matters of faith.

re: #147 Opilio

target="_blank">Linky thingy (see bullet item 7)

"African-centered thought, unlike Eurocentrism, does not assume superiority and look at everyone else as being inferior."

Isn't that in direct conflict with NoI thought?

re: #146 zombie

I think you both may be on to something.

And self-confessed virtually no sleep in 72 hours.

re: #148 Sunlight

So Jesus was quoting Confucius without attribution?
/:0

No, Hillel.

LOL
EVERYTHING Jesus says is in the Tanakh already and he repeatedly states these are not my words of my own originality but the word given by the father

re: #151 MandyManners

So, an atheist is taking the word of a racist on matters of faith.

happens all the time

re: #146 zombie

the old "reduced to the limbic brain" thing strikes again

Sally Quinn has always been an over opinionated, uninformed , elitist snob.
She either knows next to nothing about Black Liberation Theology or she is just a shill for Barry.
In her circles, they think that we are all bitter bible thumpin, gun totin crackers. I prefer to confine that to Pennsylvania (kidding)

re: #119 MandyManners

She lives in a very nice bubble.

Bradlee used to go to work in a chauffeured limo, or so I once read.

re: #153 galloping granny

And self-confessed virtually no sleep in 72 hours.

I left before 5:00 - he seemed fine then.

re: #31 galloping granny

only 3 years late, thanks msm

re: #107 buzzsawmonkey

What you call "the Silver Rule" and condemn as "a passive negative" is the way the rule is enunciated by the sage Hillel. And without wishing to start a theological wrangle, it is--in my opinion--more respectful of other persons, for it does not impose one person's likes upon another, but merely causes them to refrain from inflicting hurt upon another.

Hillel: That which is hateful to you...? Hillel's version has very deep roots now.

So there's Confucius, Jesus, Hillel... more versions?

re: #125 zombie

Apparently he uncorked some oddball off-topic insults towards Charles, just out of the blue. Not sure what the motivation was.

I was looking at that last night. The insults seemed impulsive and not related to anything in the thread. I don't excuse PBC's behavior, but I do know that everyone handles stress differently. I think PBC lashed out as a result of his/her family situation. Problem is, if you are administering a blog, you can't let a string of insults go unchallenged.

geez, what a dumbass. i don't choose to attend one church over another based on the color of the skin of the other attendees. i choose a church based on it's theology. the messages have to be clearly Bible-based. no new-age wishy washy preachers for me!

proximity to my home is also a consideration but definitely not in the top 3.

kirls

re: #159 debutaunt

I left before 5:00 - he seemed fine then.

Yup. He went from zero to 60 in just about 15 seconds around 8 or so. My first instinct was to ask who was using his account.

re: #164 galloping granny

also why I think it was booze
happens just like that to plenty of people I know
1 tequila
2 tequila
3 tequila

FLOOR

re: #160 pegcity

only 3 years late, thanks msm

Yeah, funny isn't it?

re: #141 Pastorius

Zombie,

Look at that, Muslims EVEN fuck up the Golden Rule.

Read this closely and think about what it means:

“That which you want for yourself, seek for mankind.”[24]
"The most righteous of men is the one who is glad that men should have what is pleasing to himself, and who dislikes for them what is for him disagreeable."[

That is not the Golden Rule, it is a plan for totalitarianism, my friend.

Indeed - the ROP is a totalitarian ideology, not a religion.
It may dress itself in religious clothes, but it is not. Mind - calling it a religion helps draw the wool over unbelievers' eyes.

Zombies #66 has already been extended to the Jewish faith.

The "politically correct" Left, together with "Black liberation" theology have decreed that all Jews are "White" and therefor do not qualify for minority status.

This an example another old maxim currently in use by the Left and other enemies of civilization...

Divide and conquer (divide et impera).

Judaism can thank kapos like Chomsky, Zinn, and Soros, among others, for trading our lives for their fame and fortune.

BUILDING
BIGGER
SAWS,
R

re: #147 Opilio

African-centered thought, unlike Eurocentrism, does not assume superiority and look at everyone else as being inferior.

Those must be a bunch of Europeans over in Uganda, Rwanda, Kenya, et cetera (y'know, the ones massacring members of other tribes.)

re: #158 pat

Bradlee used to go to work in a chauffeured limo, or so I once read.

Didja' read this?

The ultimate power couple in D.C..

re: #164 galloping granny

Yup. He went from zero to 60 in just about 15 seconds around 8 or so. My first instinct was to ask who was using his account.

What a shame. I thought he responded well to advice people were giving.

re: #161 Sunlight

Hillel: That which is hateful to you...? Hillel's version has very deep roots now.

So there's Confucius, Jesus, Hillel... more versions?

Here's an interesting book on the subject:
[Link: books.google.com...]

re: #136 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Oh, but they do. It's just that they define the other person, e.g. "mankind", as only those belonging to the Umma. It's very convenient.

(should I put a sarc on that? hmmmm...?)

Pretty much the same as Black Liberation Theology, with blackitude substituted for ummatude!

re: #165 BabbaZee

also why I think it was booze
happens just like that to plenty of people I know
1 tequila
2 tequila
3 tequila

FLOOR

Exactly. People do the darnedest things under the influence of booze. Especially when they are under stress, not sleeping and I suspect not eating too.

re: #161 Sunlight

Hillel: That which is hateful to you...? Hillel's version has very deep roots now.

So there's Confucius, Jesus, Hillel... more versions?

See my link in comment #87. A fairly complete list.

It was explicitly spelled out in Classical-era Greece (i.e. 500 BC).

re: #166 galloping granny

if the internet didn't exist we'd truly live in 1984 world

re: #170 MandyManners

Didja' read this?

The ultimate power couple in D.C..

So what church does Sally go to? Or Salty, as the article says? The National Chapel via copter?

re: #173 wolfie

Yes.

And I gotta get outta here and get busy on other things. LGF is addictive! Bye all!

re: #171 debutaunt

What a shame. I thought he responded well to advice people were giving.

Truthfully, given all of the other circumstances besides his sister's illness I am surprised something like this didn't happen sooner. I just hope that Charles will see his way to restoring his privileges after a bit of a time out.

re: #174 galloping granny

Booze severs the connections between your limbic (or LIZARD) brain and the higher brain capacities once you have had enough
and "enough" differs by individual

so you suddenly are stripped of all filters
and BAM you will behave as whatever beast
happens to be at the center of you

Me?
I am amazingly dumb and goofy when drunk, but more common in my experience is mean, violent or melancholy.

re: #177 pat

So what church does Sally go to? Or Salty, as the article says? The National Chapel via copter?

Per a Lizard up above, she's an atheist.

re: #177 pat

Here's a key paragraph from your link:

And so, Ben landed Sally, soon followed by his divorce from then-wife Toni. Although perhaps apocryphal, the story goes like this: she was looking for a job and walked into the Washington Post one day to apply for a party reporter position. He was smitten. She told him one salient detail; she had never written a story before.

re: #173 wolfie

Pretty much the same as Black Liberation Theology, with blackitude substituted for ummatude!

Blackitude - ummatude: I love that!

re: #50 markx

Hmmm... when you whitewash black you just get gray.

and that goes great w/ pink or powder blue. :D

re: #168 Render

Very good point.

re: #43 yma o hyd

She said:
"Reverend Wright, lionized by some of the great white theologians in this country, .."

Does anybodye here have any idea who these 'great white theologians' might be?

Why that must be Father Flager of St. Sabina parish
He very disturbingly tries to communicate in Ebonics quite a bit. You know a clerical Eminem.
He also called for a protest crowd to "off" a gun shop owner.
The padre is a friend of Wright & Farrakhan

re: #121 neocon hippie

OT:

What happened with Pro-Bush Canuck? He got banned? I know he was going through a very hard time with his sister's lymphoma. What happened?

For those joining us late, I present the Pro-Bush Canuck LGF events of 3 May 2008 in condensed form:

 This and this
   lead to
this, this, and this.

re: #181 MandyManners

i never understood why an inherent belief in nothing trumps believing in jesus.

re: #187 Opilio

Nice work, Realm Historian!

re: #180 BabbaZee

Booze severs the connections between your limbic (or LIZARD) brain and the higher brain capacities once you have had enough
and "enough" differs by individual

so you suddenly are stripped of all filters
and BAM you will behave as whatever beast
happens to be at the center of you

Me?
I am amazingly dumb and goofy when drunk, but more common in my experience is mean, violent or melancholy.

Yup - booze is one of the very few substances that will cross the blood-brain barrier. One thing that bothers me is when I hear people (often abused spouses) say things like "Oh, he was drunk, he didn't mean it." Nothing could be further from the truth. Booze removes all of our civilized inhibitions. They DO mean it. In vino veritas as the Romans often said.

149 Zombie,

Well, I don't screw up on the reading comprehension all the time.

:)

the most racist place in America is inside any jail and i am not talking about the jail guards.

a white boy tossed into cook county jail the question is FIGHT OR F'''
lucky my son could fight other wise the black boys would have raped him.

re: #190 galloping granny

I agree.

Come all without, come all within,
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn.

re: #153 galloping granny

And self-confessed virtually no sleep in 72 hours.

I believe that may be the deciding factor right there. I have occasional insomnia and have gone as long as 120 hours without a single wink.

72 hours of sleep deprivation can turn an otherwise reasonable individual into an irrational mess. Still, it doesn't mean that a host has to put up with insults in his own home, so to speak.

Good luck PBC, please get some sleep.

re: #192 yochanan

Is he out now?

re: #101 Pastorius

Zombie,

You said The Golden Rule is common to every culture and religion in the world.

You want to tell me where the Golden Rule is articulated in Islamic theology?

I thought everybody that one, it's "Do onto others and then run like hell..." (Because they are going to be pissed!)
// If you don't believe me, I KeeeeL you!
// {;-)™

re: #96 MandyManners

I wonder if she owns a "peace" scarf?

and i wonder if she wears it to church?

re: #186 opnion

Why that must be Father Flager of St. Sabina parish
He very disturbingly tries to communicate in Ebonics quite a bit. You know a clerical Eminem.
He also called for a protest crowd to "off" a gun shop owner.
The padre is a friend of Wright & Farrakhan

Interesting!
A useful idiot, then.
He may be a pastor - a theologian he's not, and I'd not even call him a Christian if he calls for someone to be 'offed'.

re: #179 galloping granny

Truthfully, given all of the other circumstances besides his sister's illness I am surprised something like this didn't happen sooner. I just hope that Charles will see his way to restoring his privileges after a bit of a time out.

See here is the thing, right now he needs this LGF community.
I went back to the thread & read his comments. Way out of line, but no doubt born of grief & liquor

re: #188 pegcity

i never understood why an inherent belief in nothing trumps believing in jesus.

Believe in nothing
and you shall receive it
in abundance!

re: #195 Slumbering Behemoth

I believe that may be the deciding factor right there. I have occasional insomnia and have gone as long as 120 hours without a single wink.

72 hours of sleep deprivation can turn an otherwise reasonable individual into an irrational mess. Still, it doesn't mean that a host has to put up with insults in his own home, so to speak.

Good luck PBC, please get some sleep.

Yes, don't our "peaceniks" scream about sleep deprivation as a form of "torture"?

re: #196 BabbaZee

Is he out now?

yes he been clean for 4 years now he really should have been in detox not jail. drugs make you do stupid things plus he has some mental issues as well.

he married a hispanic girl but don't ask him about swcwartz's he wasn't this way before he went to jail.

i blame black racism for it

re: #174 galloping granny

Exactly. People do the darnedest things under the influence of booze. Especially when they are under stress, not sleeping and I suspect not eating too.

Enabling or making excuses for a drinker will cause his/her bottom to dip below death. Who knows if that's what it was (and I didn't see it anyway). But "enabling" is the worst for them, even though it feels like holding the line is mean.

re: #204 yochanan

I understand
I will pray for his strength
and for his teshuvah
and I don't mean it in a religious sense
I mean it as it relates to him personally
and his idea of himself

re: #200 yma o hyd

Interesting!
A useful idiot, then.
He may be a pastor - a theologian he's not, and I'd not even call him a Christian if he calls for someone to be 'offed'.

Yeah, that little bit of news making put the Cardinal in a position to have to act.
However he did not & just backed down.This same Cardinal (George) disrespected Catholics complaining about priest abuse.
I have no use for Flager or Cardinal George.

re: #205 Sunlight

Which Mayor thread did you mean on that #238

re: #204 yochanan

yes he been clean for 4 years now he really should have been in detox not jail. drugs make you do stupid things plus he has some mental issues as well.

he married a hispanic girl but don't ask him about swcwartz's he wasn't this way before he went to jail.

i blame black racism for it

Black racism at Cook County jail? I'll bet Rev. Wright does prison ministry there.

re: #202 BabbaZee

Believe in nothing
and you shall receive it
in abundance!

Yep - and here's a nice quote from G.K.Chesterton:
"The trouble with people who don't belive in God is not that they believe nothing, it is that they will believe anything."

(But then, Ecclesiates told us already that there is nothing new under the sun ...)

re: #205 Sunlight

Enabling or making excuses for a drinker will cause his/her bottom to dip below death. Who knows if that's what it was (and I didn't see it anyway). But "enabling" is the worst for them, even though it feels like holding the line is mean.

Do remember that there is a difference between a chronic alcoholic - which is what you are talking about - and someone who hits the sauce a bit too hard once. PBC has never struck me as a drinker by a long shot. Unlike some others.

re: #182 jaunte

Real class act, that Ms. Quinn. As I asked when I posted the link earlier, how far would she have gone if she wasn't sleeping with him?

re: #203 galloping granny

Sleep deprivation does some horrible things to the mind. The 72 hour mark is roughly where hallucinations begin.

re: #188 pegcity

i never understood why an inherent belief in nothing trumps believing in jesus.

To each her own, I reckon.

re: #194 caliredst8r

Come all without, come all within,
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn.

music and lyrics by Bob Dylan.

re: #207 opnion

Yeah, that little bit of news making put the Cardinal in a position to have to act.
However he did not & just backed down.This same Cardinal (George) disrespected Catholics complaining about priest abuse.
I have no use for Flager or Cardinal George.

How old is that Cardinal?
Perhaps the Pope can put him out to grass ...

re: #210 yma o hyd

(But then, Ecclesiates told us already that there is nothing new under the sun ...)

That is actually huge if you manage to entrench it into your world view throughly,
destroys shock and arrogance all in one blow
LOL

re: #199 nyc redneck

and i wonder if she wears it to church?

Doubt she spends time in church since she's an atheist.

gotta go move plants. Later lizards.

re: #190 galloping granny

Yup - booze is one of the very few substances that will cross the blood-brain barrier. One thing that bothers me is when I hear people (often abused spouses) say things like "Oh, he was drunk, he didn't mean it." Nothing could be further from the truth. Booze removes all of our civilized inhibitions. They DO mean it. In vino veritas as the Romans often said.

i agree completely, you can get the truth out of a drunk w/out even trying. it should be the new waterboarding.

re: #215 Opilio

music and lyrics by Bob Dylan.

/Say the secret word and make Babba very happy
;~}

re: #208 BabbaZee

"UK Muslim Group Attacks New London Mayor"
You'll see that Joseph K gave a good answer at 240.

Hey y'all - just an update for those of you who are interested: I had a nice "chat" via- e-mail with USMC 1968 - he is not alone, although I do not know where he lives.
I offered some help from some former Marines and/or some help from LGFer's if he wanted it and I gave him my phone number (typing on the computer is sometimes somewhat difficult for him) and haven't heard from him since my last e-mail.
But at least he's not alone and he's comfortable with the way his life is going.

BBL. Have fun mocking the Mighty Quinn. We plebes are such a raucous lot.

re: #192 yochanan

the most racist place in America is inside any jail and i am not talking about the jail guards.

Check out Paul Rodriguez's Live in San Quentin. He talks about the racism in prisons quite a bit. The dvd has more than the comedy; has Paul going around asking questions etc.

re: #211 galloping granny

Do remember that there is a difference between a chronic alcoholic - which is what you are talking about - and someone who hits the sauce a bit too hard once. PBC has never struck me as a drinker by a long shot. Unlike some others.

If they get the message that first time and actually do have control then it lowers their chance of a repeat performance.

re: #192 yochanan

the most racist place in America is inside any jail and i am not talking about the jail guards.

a white boy tossed into cook county jail the question is FIGHT OR F'''
lucky my son could fight other wise the black boys would have raped him.

Cook County Jail, hell on Earth

re: #201 opnion

I asked him to make his name blue, but he didn't. I thought that people here would write to him personally, not on a thread, to let him know we're supportive.

Those who have his email address, please write him if you feel comfortable.

re: #222 Sunlight

Ah I see
Ok thanks

re: #217 BabbaZee

That is actually huge if you manage to entrench it into your world view throughly,
destroys shock and arrogance all in one blow
LOL

Indeed so!
And once one does - one finds the solutions people have found, to get them through all the things we like to whinge about today, as if they never happened before in the history of mankind, and are just sooo particular to our precious selves.

re: #220 nyc redneck

i agree completely, you can get the truth out of a drunk w/out even trying. it should be the new waterboarding.

Heh!
Wonder what jihadists would say to that ...

(Actually - they'd probably scream its dissing their ROP!)

re: #230 yma o hyd

Indeed so!
And once one does - one finds the solutions people have found, to get them through all the things we like to whinge about today, as if they never happened before in the history of mankind, and are just sooo particular to our precious selves.

As I get older, I find life more humbling.

re: #230 yma o hyd

you got it
I tell people all the time -
the NAVIGATION is contained therein too
for any situation
it is also among a million other things
a book of navigation or a map

the way is inside the word

re: #225 Roger

He talks about the racism in prisons quite a bit.

Interesting that two institutions with lots of our best young people (prisons and military) reside at such opposite ends of the spectrum of societal achievement. The military, along with the competence fostered, has led the way throughout our country's history to break down and, in most cases now, eliminate entrenched racism. The prisons have worked in the exact opposite direction. Maybe the military could re-organize the prison experience.

re: #204 yochanan

Youchanan, Out of curiousity, has your opinion on drug legalization changed?

re: #233 BabbaZee

you got it
I tell people all the time -
the NAVIGATION is contained therein too
for any situation
it is also among a million other things
a book of navigation or a map

the way is inside the word

What an excellent word for a Sunday!

Now what are the chances that anybody who finds BlackLibTheol cool would ever think in this way?

re: #231 yma o hyd

Heh!
Wonder what jihadists would say to that ...

(Actually - they'd probably scream its dissing their ROP!)

we should write down everything that doesn't diss their ropma.
we'd be looking at a blank piece of paper.

re: #237 yma o hyd

What an excellent word for a Sunday!

Now what are the chances that anybody who finds BlackLibTheol cool would ever think in this way?

Think? what think?
THINK is double plus ungood you honkified cracker!

/it is not theology
it is triumphalism turbo powered by sleeple

re: #212 MandyManners

Real class act, that Ms. Quinn. As I asked when I posted the link earlier, how far would she have gone if she wasn't sleeping with him?

Depends on who else she met that she could sleep with.

(But I doubt that she could have done better.)

Men can be sooooooooooooo stooooooooooooopid.

re: #216 yma o hyd

How old is that Cardinal?
Perhaps the Pope can put him out to grass ...

I am guessing, but I would say about 68.
The real irony is that when the Pope was just in the US, he spoke out forcefuly about priest abuse & this Cardinal lauded him.
He is the same guy who mocked those upset about the abuse when the American Cardinals met some time back to discuss the issue.
He sees a new sheriff in town & is trying to look on board.

re: #201 opnion

See here is the thing, right now he needs this LGF community.
I went back to the thread & read his comments. Way out of line, but no doubt born of grief & liquor

I don't know him, so I don't want to speak out of turn, but I wonder what his fight with the GF was about? If he has been lashing out at everybody around him, it would explain a lot. If that's the case, then what he really needs is to pull himself together and be a man. Hopefully banning might be one of the many swift kicks in the ass he seems to need.

I know he's going through a lot, but plenty of people here have been through worse without lashing out at the host. No matter what else was going on, that was just plain stupid, and sugar-coating it won't do PBC any good. I wish that these awful things in his life were not there. But they're just not connected to how a person conducts himself.

re: #236 hermeneutics

Much of the drugs are legal. Last month my Aunt saved her own life while in the hazy world of pain killers. She stopped them from giving her someone elses drugs. Would have stopped her heart with in minutes. She did it only by sensing something was wrong wrt to what she was taking before the hospital journey.

re: #239 BabbaZee

Think? what think?
THINK is double plus ungood you honkified cracker!

/it is not theology
it is triumphalism turbo powered by sleeple

which makes it exactly the same
as Islam
and Fascism
and Communism

IOW

STAAAAAAAAN!

/Quinn's idea of Christians

re: #235 Sunlight

I'd be all for that!

re: #1 MandyManners Evidence, she don't need no stinking evidence - it's how she feels about White Christians, that's all that matters for the WaPo.

re: #7 buzzsawmonkey

She's suffering from a little Confucian.

I checked it and found Confucius said this in Analect:
Confucius said in The Analects:
Never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself. Analects XV.24, tr. David Hinton

But you are right, Jesus said:

Matthew 7:12
"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets."

which was taken from:

Leviticus 19:18 ("Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.") and Leviticus 19:34 ("But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God").

re: #235 Sunlight

Interesting that two institutions with lots of our best young people (prisons and military) reside at such opposite ends of the spectrum of societal achievement. The military, along with the competence fostered, has led the way throughout our country's history to break down and, in most cases now, eliminate entrenched racism. The prisons have worked in the exact opposite direction. Maybe the military could re-organize the prison experience.

The way things are going these days, I'm afraid that the prison experience is more likely to re-organize the military.

re: #230 yma o hyd

Indeed so!
And once one does - one finds the solutions people have found, to get them through all the things we like to whinge about today, as if they never happened before in the history of mankind, and are just sooo particular to our precious selves.

.....or to our particular era.

Thinking the past has nothing useful to tell us= "chronological snobbery"
(CSLewis)

re: #242 haakondahl

I don't know him, so I don't want to speak out of turn, but I wonder what his fight with the GF was about? If he has been lashing out at everybody around him, it would explain a lot. If that's the case, then what he really needs is to pull himself together and be a man. Hopefully banning might be one of the many swift kicks in the ass he seems to need.

I know he's going through a lot, but plenty of people here have been through worse without lashing out at the host. No matter what else was going on, that was just plain stupid, and sugar-coating it won't do PBC any good. I wish that these awful things in his life were not there. But they're just not connected to how a person conducts himself.

His comments were so over the top.
Why Charles ? This blog is a public service & Charles qualifies as a patriot without question.
The guy is dealing with a lot of pain & mishandled it.

re: #242 haakondahl

I don't know him either, but from what others have said, this was a one-time "behavioral malfunction." Well, maybe not since he mouthed off the next day as well.

I sorta agree with your tough love prescription, but it makes me squirm. What if he goes off the deep end? I don't think he will, but if he does, and we could have prevented it, shouldn't we? I guess that's why I'm hoping that those who know him would write to him on his personal email address.

re: #247 psaturn
Yo yo yo

white theologian in da hiz-ouse

LOL

Well it's been an interesting day y'all but I gotta go now.
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

re: #235 Sunlight

Interesting that two institutions with lots of our best young people (prisons and military) reside at such opposite ends of the spectrum of societal achievement. The military, along with the competence fostered, has led the way throughout our country's history to break down and, in most cases now, eliminate entrenched racism. The prisons have worked in the exact opposite direction. Maybe the military could re-organize the prison experience.

Prisons have lots of our best young people?

re: #243 Roger

Oh, I didn't understand. Sorry. Although legal drugs can be abused, people usually don't go to prison for such abuse, right?

re: #239 BabbaZee

Think? what think?
THINK is double plus ungood you honkified cracker!

/it is not theology
it is triumphalism turbo powered by sleeple

'Honkified cracker' - cripes, thats brilliant!

re: #255 hermeneutics

That is entirely dependent upon the relative fame and fortune of the abuser in question.

JUST
US,
R

re: #251 hermeneutics

I don't know him either, but from what others have said, this was a one-time "behavioral malfunction." Well, maybe not since he mouthed off the next day as well.

I sorta agree with your tough love prescription, but it makes me squirm. What if he goes off the deep end? I don't think he will, but if he does, and we could have prevented it, shouldn't we? I guess that's why I'm hoping that those who know him would write to him on his personal email address.

We are in a position to prevent exactly nothing, if we are not willing to draw lines and advertise them.

re: #241 opnion

I am guessing, but I would say about 68.
The real irony is that when the Pope was just in the US, he spoke out forcefuly about priest abuse & this Cardinal lauded him.
He is the same guy who mocked those upset about the abuse when the American Cardinals met some time back to discuss the issue.
He sees a new sheriff in town & is trying to look on board.

68 - ah, could be made to take 'early retirement' then, or made to go in two years, iirc.

re: #258 haakondahl

big OTist!

I'm slow, but this came out in the Denver Post a couple of days ago. Have you noticed that the chicken little's screaming for recession have been rather quiet the last couple days? Perhaps political news has drowned out their cackles.

I find it interesting that the last recession occurred and ended during Clinton's two terms.

"The last true recession, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research, began during the Clinton administration in November 2000. Remember those glory years of unheralded economic growth? Before that, Elder Bush had his. Nearly every decade — whether Democrats, Republicans, Whigs or Jedis are in charge — the economy experienced some form of correction.
Many economists — most of them still arguing over why we have recessions at all — believe that with a credit crunch, the housing market falling and high oil prices, the economy growing (as it did slightly last quarter) is a sign of resilience.
As market strategist Ed Yardeni (hat tip to U.S. World and News Report) claimed, "this profits recession is very much limited to the Financials sector and the Homebuilding industry . . . . Removing these two reveals that profits rose 15.9 percent in Q4 and around 12.0 percent during Q1. The resilience of 'core' profits and of the economy in the face of the worst credit crisis since the 1930s is impressive indeed."

[Link: www.denverpost.com...]

And a message of black liberation theology is basically Confucius’ message of do unto others as you would have others do unto you. We are our brother’s keepers. Obama has said that many times. But you look at a lot of the white Christians, and we’re 90 percent religious in this country. Most people in this country are Christians, and you look at the Christians and they go to their white churches. And you wonder how they can call themselves Christians and still look at other people as though they are inferior.

Wow....if I had to do a shot of Everclear for every stupid, blithering self-serving platitude in that paragraph- let alone rest of her appearence- I'd be dead or dying from alcohol poisoning.

But what do I know? I'm just a racist white hypoctitical Christian who's de-facto parrish offers services in Spanish two hours after the English service on Sunday morning. Nothing says 'Racist White Hypocrite' like Mass en Espanol.