Where's her evidence that we think we're superior?

Great way to bring us all together.

There once was a writer named Quinn
Who wanted Islamists to win
She said with great dread
As they lopped off her head
Guess I'll join my column in the bin

And a message of black liberation theology is basically Confucius’ message of do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

Confucius wrote The Golden Rule?

Speaking for herself. no one has finished one of columns in years.

Confucius?

re: #4 Noam Sayin'

Confucius wrote The Golden Rule?

She's suffering from a little Confucian.

From above,

"Most people in this country are Christians, and you look at the Christians and they go to their white churches. And you wonder how they can call themselves Christians and still look at other people as though they are inferior."

This passes for profundity at Wapo, I assume.

And a message of black liberation theology is basically Confucius’ message of do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

No longer confucius.

They mean to confuse us

And you wonder how they can call themselves Christians and still look at other people as though they are inferior.

How the hell did she come to that conclusion?

Typical white cracker who is sorry to be a white cracker.

"I ain't saying I'm better than you are,
But maybe I am."

-Randy Newman "I'm Different"

First they be comin' for the Saturday people of Zion
Now we be comin' for your clingy Jesus honky asses

[REDACTED]

re: #4 Noam Sayin'

Confucius wrote The Golden Rule?

Well since Jesus is considered white by Quinn, she assumes he had to stolen it from somewhere.

Goodness, what awful writing!

Seems like she just doesn't like Christians, but she can't say anything bad about black Christians, cause you know, they're black so therefore get special, protected status from the likes of Sally Quinn.
I find it odd that she says, "Confucius’ message of do unto others as you would have others do unto you." Confucius, you see, not Jesus.

re: #11 rawmuse

"I ain't saying I'm better than you are,
But maybe I am."

-Randy Newman "I'm Different"

Ain't gonna play no Boss-Man's game!

I can't wait until "Quinn for a day" comes back on TV.

And you wonder how they can call themselves Christians and still look at other people as though they are inferior.

Where did that come from?!

re: #1 MandyManners

Where's her evidence that we think we're superior?

We have faith, while all she has is doubt.

Our strength born of our faith makes her feel insecure in her doubt.

This article doesn't even make sense. bah

To be fair - that quote is from an appearance on Charlie Rose, not a written column by Quinn.

re: #1 MandyManners

Where's her evidence that we think we're superior?

Only in her mind, MM... only in her mind.

JAFLW

And you wonder how they can call themselves Christians and still look at other people as though they are inferior.

The only mention of inferiority came from Rev. Wright, who took Rudyard Kipling's poem, "White Man's Burden" - which was an argument for the United States to enter a conflict in the Philippines, and turned it into something he imagined. (Press Club)
I still remember a childhood Christian song from many decades ago, "Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight." Rev. Wright is the bigot.

re: #8 onslow

She's seem ignorant to that Christianity comes in all colors......
But hey, I'm just bitter and clinging to my guns & Bible - what would I know. /

This is a Take Your Kid To Work thing, right?

And you wonder how they can call themselves Christians and still look at other people as though they are inferior.

Hey Sally, can you say transference?

How far could she have gone without Ben Bradlee?

to see his career completely destroyed by three 20-second sound bites, all of the work he has done, his entire legacy gone down the drain, has been absolutely devastating to me -- to him, sorry.

-Quinn

Dear Miss Sally Quinn, When you find any white Christian Church that preaches the same things Jeremiah Wright does, only with the a pro-white slant instead, please fell free to call them all a bunch of racists and hypocrites who know nothing about Christianity.

re: #21 Charles

To be fair - that quote is from an appearance on Charlie Rose, not a written column by Quinn.

Ah. That's what I get for not RTFA.

BREAKING -

The Flight 93 Memorial controversy has finally made MSM news, above the fold on the Fox website.

The controversy over the memorial site began when the Flight 93 Advisory Commission announced a memorial design from Paul Murdoch Architects of Los Angles called "Crescent of Embrace," that included a crescent of maple trees around the crash site.

Some critics say its crescent-shaped design call to mind Islam or subtly include the hijackers alongside the passengers and crew.

The National Park Service, which is managing the construction of the memorial, denied those claims, but changed the design to more of a circle, and dropped the name.

Read it all . . .

Babba, that was pretty lame.

re: #18 Dianna

Classic transference. Quinn sees Christians as though they are inferior.

re: #26 markx

Hey Sally, can you say transference?

Yep. She's the one who thinks the rest of us are inferior.

Don't you realize that if all you melanin challenged GOD mouths would just lay down under this niiiice bus
everything would get better?

re: #21 Charles

To be fair - that quote is from an appearance on Charlie Rose, not a written column by Quinn.

Ah! She didn't have an editor to clean up after her.

Forgive her, she knows not what she is doin' .

Or was that arrogant and looking at them as though they are inferior?

re: #26 markx

Hey Sally, can you say transference?

I'll bet she can't spell it

Just remember, black children learn differently than white children.

/different brain structure or some such bull[expletive deleted]

re: #4 Noam Sayin'

Confucius wrote The Golden Rule?

Go figure that, huh?

re: #32 haakondahl

oh well.

They are known to the world on a double first name basis: Ben and Sally.

Before Bennifer, before Brangelina, they took one look at each other and it was Kismet. He was barrel-chested and gravelyvoiced, always dashing in English shirts and a loosened tie. She was blonde and witty, a military brat in oversized sunglasses and mini skirts. Her admirers were legion: Warren Beatty, Warren Hoge. His female admirers included Jackie Kennedy and Lauren Bacall, who calls him “Benji.”

And so, Ben landed Sally, soon followed by his divorce from then-wife Toni. Although perhaps apocryphal, the story goes like this: she was looking for a job and walked into the Washington Post one day to apply for a party reporter position. He was smitten. She told him one salient detail; she had never written a story before.

“Nobody’s perfect,” he barked. Sally went on to fame as a seriously edgy Style writer who was nicknamed “Salty” Quinn. No one was more deft in getting well-known subjects to reveal their foibles. Who was it? Henry Kissinger, who said that being interviewed by gossip columnist Maxine Cheshire made you want to kill her. Being interviewed by Sally Quinn made you want to kill yourself.

SNIP

She said:
"Reverend Wright, lionized by some of the great white theologians in this country, .."

Does anybodye here have any idea who these 'great white theologians' might be?

Most people in this country are Christians, and you look at the Christians and they go to their white churches.

I go to a red brick church with large stained glass windows.

re: #34 MandyManners

Exactly. She is a classic case.

they are trying to white wash black liberation theology.
that is not going to work w/ most of the people in this country who have heard the hate spoken over and over by the charlatans who perpetrate this ugliness.

Mama winger--if you can stand it, two more Kipling poems on the subject of dogs:

Four-Feet
I have done mostly what most men do,
And pushed it out of my mind;
But I can't forget, if I wanted to,
Four-Feet trotting behind.

Day after day, the whole day through --
Wherever my road inclined --
Four-feet said, "I am coming with you!"
And trotted along behind.

Now I must go by some other round, --
Which I shall never find --
Somewhere that does not carry the sound
Of Four-Feet trotting behind.

and one which I suspect is the origin of the "Rainbow Bridge" story:

Dinah in Heaven

She did not know that she was dead,
But, when the pang was o'er,
Sat down to wait her Master's tread
Upon the Golden Floor,

With ears full-cock and anxious eye
Impatiently resigned;
But ignorant that Paradise
Did not admit her kind.

Persons with Haloes, Harps, and Wings
Assembled and reproved;
Or talked to her of Heavenly things,
But Dinah never moved.

There was one step along the Stair
That led to Heaven's Gate;
And, till she heard it, her affair
Was--she explained--to wait.

And she explained with flattened ear,
Bared lip and milky tooth--
Storming against Ithuriel's Spear
That only proved her truth!

Sudden--far down the Bridge of Ghosts
That anxious spirits clomb--
She caught that step in all the hosts,
And knew that he had come.

She left them wondering what to do,
But not a doubt had she.
Swifter than her own squeal she flew
Across the Glassy Sea;

Flushing the Cherubs every where,
And skidding as she ran,
She refuged under Peter's Chair
And waited for her man.

There spoke a Spirit out of the press,
'Said:--"Have you any here
That saved a fool from drunkenness,
And a coward from his fear?

"That turned a soul from dark to day
When other help was vain;
That snatched it from wan hope and made
A cur a man again?"

"Enter and look," said Peter then,
And set The Gate ajar.
"If know aught of women and men
I trow she is not far."

"Neither by virtue, speech nor art
Nor hope of grace to win;
But godless innocence of heart
That never heard of sin:

"Neither by beauty nor belief
Nor white example shown.
Something a wanton--more a thief--
But--most of all--mine own."

"Enter and look," said Peter then,
"And send you well to speed;
But, for all that I know of women and men
Your riddle is hard to read."

Then flew Dinah from under the Chair,
Into his arms she flew--
And licked his face from chin to hair
And Peter passed them through!

What a rocket scientist - white people are racists, I've seen white peolpe going into churches, and therefore christians all think they are superior. When we all know the black liberationists are superior. Duh.

I wrote an article like this one, but I was in kindergarten bemoaning how some of the superior first graders were. And then I hit first grade.

Rather than transference, it's more likely that she is displaying projection:

A defense mechanism in which the individual attributes to other people impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot accept. It is especially likely to occur when the person lacks insight into his own impulses and traits."

re: #46 nyc redneck

they are trying to white wash black liberation theology.

Hmmm... when you whitewash black you just get gray.

My church is sort of beige with a lot of beige people inside. Maybe she is talking about the trim.

re: #49 jaunte

Rather than transference, it's more likely that she is displaying projection:

A defense mechanism in which the individual attributes to other people impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot accept. It is especially likely to occur when the person lacks insight into his own impulses and traits."

Put too many of them in one place and you'll get The Daily Kos (and DU, and HuffPo, and ...)

re: #43 yma o hyd

She said:
"Reverend Wright, lionized by some of the great white theologians in this country, .."

Does anybodye here have any idea who these 'great white theologians' might be?

Nope, not me. I could give you a list of great white theological hucksters, but true theologians, not in the US and mostly not recently.

re: #49 jaunte

Rather than transference, it's more likely that she is displaying projection

You're right. I stand corrected.

/no wonder I got a C in Psychology 101

I have to google Sally Quinn because I remember her from during the Clinton regime. Saying some extremely elitist things. Am I getting her mixed up with someone else?

In any case Ms. Quinn wouldn't know a white Christian if they gave up their cab for her on a rainy day ... which they probably have.

Oh, noez.

WL: You have been to many fabulous parties over the years given by great hostesses such as Pamela Harriman, Kay Graham, Susan Mary Alsop, and Evangeline Bruce, to name a few. Sally, you are on the record as saying that society is dead in Washington today. Do you think that there’s anyone who can compare to these women today?
SQ: That kind of entertaining, that kind of life, those people— just doesn’t exist anymore and never will again.

WL: Why?
BB: Lots of money, millions of bucks!
SQ: They had money, knew how to entertain [and] were brought up to be hostesses. They were raised by nannies and their children were raised by nannies. It was an era when family was not all that important. When Evangeline went to Europe with David Bruce, she left her children with a German nanny on 9th street because she felt that having the children there would get in the way of their entertaining.

SNIP

re: #43 yma o hyd

She said:
"Reverend Wright, lionized by some of the great white theologians in this country, .."

Does anybodye here have any idea who these 'great white theologians' might be?

Her smug white liberal friends.

re: #55 kynna

I have to google Sally Quinn because I remember her from during the Clinton regime. Saying some extremely elitist things. Am I getting her mixed up with someone else?

In any case Ms. Quinn wouldn't know a white Christian if they gave up their cab for her on a rainy day ... which they probably have.

She is an extreme elitist. I'm posting snippets from the article I linked above.

I'd rather be raised by a German Nanny than Sally

re: #52 Spiny Norman

It's hard to walk a mile in someone else's shoes.
/What if they never wore socks?

re: #59 Shug

I'd rather be raised by a German Nanny than Sally

I wonder if Ben Bradlee had kids with the wife he dumped for her.

and you look at the Christians and they go to their white churches.

My if she didn't just "look" and actually checked it out, she could get the real facts.
And from my experience, there are no "white" churches. Churches usually reflect the racial makeup of the community they are in.

re: #54 markx

On the other hand, I can never remember what transference means.

re: #43 yma o hyd

She said:
"Reverend Wright, lionized by some of the great white theologians in this country, .."

Does anybodye here have any idea who these 'great white theologians' might be?

"Lionized?" He must be their mane man.

Next thing you know she'll be calling for interchurch bussing just to be fair and all...

I managed to miss most of the PC indoctrination in college (my major wasn't the kind of major where stuff like that was possible), but I once did have a teacher inform me of what I later learned was a basic tenet of neo-leftism:

Minorities are by definition incapable of racism. Because, you see, racism now has the definition, "biased attitudes exhibited by the oppressing class." Therefore, in America, only "white" people can be racists.

Thus, even the most "love-your-brother" white Christians are inherently racist, and the most hate-filled black supremacist churches are admirable.

Her hubby's bio at Wiki.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #53 galloping granny

Nope, not me. I could give you a list of great white theological hucksters, but true theologians, not in the US and mostly not recently.

Thats what I thought!

I can name a few (white) true theologians, even in the US.
Would have surprised me enormously if any of them would endorse, never mind 'lionize' Jeremy Wright.

re: #67 MandyManners

Her hubby's bio at Wiki.

[Link:

But my church has almost every ethnicity I can think of, red and yellow, black and white. I'm so confused. I guess us white ones is still racists.

re: #62 MadJadBad

There are a strain of "Christian Identity" churches which are like the white equivalents of Wrights crap but that is not what she is referring to.

re: #47 buzzsawmonkey

Thank you - that brought tears to my eyes ...

I don't get it. How is Black Liberation theology the embodiment of the Golden Rule?

That's ridiculous.

re: #64 buzzsawmonkey

"Lionized?" He must be their mane man.

Simba down there pal.

I don't think I've ever seen as clear an example of White Guilt. It's so strong with Quinn, you wonder if it has crossed the bridge from a psychological disorder to a physically manifest state. If so, then perhaps a physician from Tuskegee could do a biopsy and find a cure!

I wonder what church Sally attends?

Wait, does she even attend church or is she just projecting her white guilt?

re: #55 kynna

I have to google Sally Quinn because I remember her from during the Clinton regime. Saying some extremely elitist things. Am I getting her mixed up with someone else?

In any case Ms. Quinn wouldn't know a white Christian if they gave up their cab for her on a rainy day ... which they probably have.

Here's what Sally says at her OnFaith site:

I announced to my parents when I was 13 that I was an atheist. And I was a committed atheist all of my life. My view was that more evil had been done in the name of religion than anything else in the world.I saw no redeeming value in it at all.

Link...

From what I see of Black Liberation Theology, even Rev Wright's (borrowed heavily from James Cone), it is rooted in Elija Muhammad's teachings that blacks are the chosen people, and all whites are devils.

White Hatred In Black Liberation Theology

It's odeous, as if the Civil War and the civil rights movement never happened.

re: #73 Pastorius

I don't get it. How is Black Liberation theology the embodiment of the Golden Rule?

.

BLING !

re: #43 yma o hyd

She said:
"Reverend Wright, lionized by some of the great white theologians in this country, .."

Does anybodye here have any idea who these 'great white theologians' might be?

Perhaps the Archbishop of Shariabury would like Wright.
Or the fuehrers of the Aryan "Christian" Identity movement.

re: #66 zombie

I have heard that many times
from many people

re: #73 Pastorius

I don't get it. How is Black Liberation theology the embodiment of the Golden Rule?

That's ridiculous.

Opress others as they have opressed you?

re: #69 MandyManners

I guess as an aristocrat, she is obliged to condescend.

re: #57 Spiny Norman

Her smug white liberal friends.

That figures!
(If being a smug white liberal now makes you into a theologian ...)

re: #66 zombie

A+......perhaps you will consider presenting yourself as a doctoral candidate in Peace and Justice Studies ? :D

re: #53 galloping granny

Oh, I could -- his advisor, martin marty at University of Chicago.

And a message of black liberation theology is basically Confucius’ message of do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

The Golden Rule.

Common to just about every culture and religion in the world.

Pre-dates even Confucius.

I think this is what they call "fortune cookie research."

Interfaith dialogue =

Bash 'em over the head. Move the goalposts. Negotiate.
Bash 'em over the head. Move the goalposts. Negotiate.
Bash 'em over the head. Move the goalposts. Negotiate.

re: #83 jaunte

I guess as an aristocrat, she is obliged to condescend.

And, she can do it from one of her three houses.

Jest a wee bit of Liberal White Guilt.

re: #75 uptight

I don't think I've ever seen as clear an example of White Guilt. It's so strong with Quinn, you wonder if it has crossed the bridge from a psychological disorder to a physically manifest state. If so, then perhaps a physician from Tuskegee could do a biopsy and find a cure!

Perhaps she should spend more time in a tanning salon?

Gramsci / Hegemony

politicize the personal
make each into an "oppressed underclass"
use them as a club with which to beat the "enemy" (us) into submission
after that is accomplished
either the club submits to the state
as well
or
the club, no longer being useful, is purged

re: #77 ornery elephant

I announced to my parents when I was 13 that I was an atheist. And I was a committed atheist all of my life. My view was that more evil had been done in the name of religion than anything else in the world.I saw no redeeming value in it at all.

Well, that explains it. She's stereotyping that which she knows nothing about. She's doing exactly what she accuses others of doing.

re: #53 galloping granny

Nope, not me. I could give you a list of great white theological hucksters, but true theologians, not in the US and mostly not recently.

C.S. Lewis comes to mind immediately, but,
1) He's dead, and
2) He wouldn't be seen with the likes of Rev. Wrong

JAFLW

Oldest trick in the book.

To hide one's shame: accuse others of doing exactly what you are doing with tons of evidence to the contrary.

This is typical liberalism. I'm used to being called a bigot, a racist, a hatemonger, a chickenhawk. All because I have different views and can back up my reasoning with sound logic.

I wonder if she owns a "peace" scarf?

In fact, the exact quote come from Jesus, not Confucius:

Matthew 7:12
"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets."

One thing that annoys me about this story is that's just badly written. Present me with rubbish ideas, but at least wrap it with some skill.

And then there's the contortion to rob Christianity of any value:

And a message of black liberation theology is basically Confucius’ message of do unto others as you would have others do unto you. We are our brother’s keepers.

Actually, no, Jesus popularized this as the 'Golden Rule' during his sermon on the mount. Confucius proposed what is generally called the 'Silver Rule,' which is a passive negative: "Don't do unto others what you wouldn't have them do unto you.'

Confucius deserves credit, of course. But Quinn strives to take credit away, where it's due.

Quinn must have been nodding in agreement and saying "Amen". When Obama described those clinging white folk he knows.

re: #77 ornery elephant

Good find, Ornery. I'm reading through the comments now.

Zombie,

You said The Golden Rule is common to every culture and religion in the world.

You want to tell me where the Golden Rule is articulated in Islamic theology?

re: #74 Shug

Simba down there pal.

Don't listen to her, buzzsaw -- take pride in your comment.

re: #60 jaunte

It's hard to walk a mile in someone else's shoes.
/What if they never wore socks?

...especially if they pinch. Think about it...

JAFLW

(Tapping on desk, looking at watch, drinking glass of water, thinking about sex, tapping on desk some more)

Sorry y'all but I'm in the process of fixing my mouse so please ignore any posts I make - ya know, the way you usually do!

re: #66 zombie

Minorities are by definition incapable of racism. Because, you see, racism now has the definition, "biased attitudes exhibited by the oppressing class." Therefore, in America, only "white" people can be racists.

Remember the uproar at University of Delaware last year ?

That's it to a tee. A BIG F***ING BINGO.

re: #98 Cognito

One thing that annoys me about this story is that's just badly written. Present me with rubbish ideas, but at least wrap it with some skill.

And then there's the contortion to rob Christianity of any value:

Actually, no, Jesus popularized this as the 'Golden Rule' during his sermon on the mount. Confucius proposed what is generally called the 'Silver Rule,' which is a passive negative: "Don't do unto others what you wouldn't have them do unto you.'

Confucius deserves credit, of course. But Quinn strives to take credit away, where it's due.

What you call "the Silver Rule" and condemn as "a passive negative" is the way the rule is enunciated by the sage Hillel. And without wishing to start a theological wrangle, it is--in my opinion--more respectful of other persons, for it does not impose one person's likes upon another, but merely causes them to refrain from inflicting hurt upon another.