Here’s a photo of former Weather Underground terrorist (and friend of Barack Obama) William Ayers in 2001 (when Obama was much older than 8), proudly stepping on a United States flag. The full article on Ayers’ deeply held radical ideas is here: No Regrets.
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For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press.
It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest.
It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag who gives that protester the freedom he abuses to burn that flag.
I am amazed that Ayers has been able to eat at restaurants with the attitudes he has. It wouldn't bother me a bit if every restaurant in his town refused him service.
We need to find sound for this lovely statement made by his wife:
At a 1969 "War Council" in Flint, Michigan, Dohrn gave her most memorable and notorious speech to her followers. Holding her fingers in what became the Weatherman "fork salute," she said of the bloody murders recently committed by the Manson Family in which the pregnant actress Sharon Tate and a Folgers Coffee heiress and several other inhabitants of a Benedict Canyon mansion were brutally stabbed to death: "Dig it! First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim's stomach! Wild!" The "War Council" ended with a formal declaration of war against "AmeriKKKa," always spelled with three K's to signify the United States' allegedly ineradicable white racism.
And yet, Ayers has the freedom to do all of this because of protection given by people he despises. If he pulled crap like this in a county that he felt was more ideologically perfect to him, he'd be fertilizer and air pollution within the day.
I'm old enough to remember the Weather Underground. They were crazy, they were dangerous, and if they hadn't been such doofuses, they'd have killed more than Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph combined.
I'm sorry - but the man is an unrepentant piece of scum and should be in SuperMax.
A guy I knew in the Army waited until he PCS'd from Germany and processed out of the Army. Once he was out, he sent a photograph back to the troops and to the First Sgt. It was a picture of him peeing in Tops precious coffee mug over the urinal.
re: #14 vxbush Ah well, ya see, not that many people recognize him (which, of course, pisses him off) and very few of us remember him from his Weather Underground stuff.
But he IS a POS.
And I'll recognize him, should I see him while Obama is campaigning down here in N.C.
Just another smelly, washed up, sold out radical. He's gone from ripe to over-ripe to rotten to biomass. Were this the true face of the enemy, we'd have nothing to worry about. But the enemy is much faster, more alluring, more deadly. This fool is a diversion.
Ah well, ya see, not that many people recognize him (which, of course, pisses him off) and very few of us remember him from his Weather Underground stuff.
But he IS a POS.
And I'll recognize him, should I see him while Obama is campaigning down here in N.C.
So maybe we should put up posters of what he looks like at all the restaurants. That way, folks can be educated and he can get the notoriety he so desires. See, win-win!
What a self-important, arrogant piece of scum he is. The worst anti-American haters are the ones who grew up in a privileged environment and turn on the country that made it all possible. The 1960s nearly destroyed this country and it might happen yet if we can't get that generation to just fucking go away. Permanently.
re: #28 Ellen I'm old enough too. Do you remember when they had a "work accident" in that Townhouse on (I think) West 11th street in the West Village? Blew out the entire building and damaged neighboring buildings on either side and across the street.
They sure packed a LOT of explosives - and guns - back in the day to "carry the fight to the man".
Scumbags, all of 'em.
Nice, another hero just like Lt. for life John F. Kerry.
Thing is History sits just there, on the huge black horse of truth,
History has these huge red glowing fire like eyes that can see,
These little beings of lies and fraud on the face of the honor of the
U.S. A.
will soon be judged by, the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth,
SO HELP ,"WE THE PEOPLE" AND our God.
Who so ever trod on old glory in such a way, will have a chance change meeting with the spirit of Sgt. of the Army, Special Forces and team lead of S.O.G,, a "mad dog" Jerry Michael Shriver, moment in time if you will.
Judgment does make ready, the huge horse and rider now lunge forward, into the real History and the real truth,
just confirms my view that the 60's radicals never went away. They now just teach in our schools of "higher" learning. Still, Ayers couldn't pass up a flash-back, stuck on stupid photo-op. How daring he does it tucked up into some alley out of the light of day. An un-intended analogy of the radical mindset of his generation?
re: #42 Charles WHOA! Thanks Charles! I didn't know he came from a wealthy family, nor that he hired Obama to head that "charity".
Learn something every single darn day here at LGF!
The big problem with Obama, er, one of the big problems, is that he doesn't know how to distinguish between 'changing America because you love it' and 'changing America because you hate it and think it's the most evil thing on the planet'. If he could make that distinction, it would really help him out. Unfortunately, for him, he doesn't realize his inability to do that and his ignorance and arrogance leads him to initially defend those people, their positions, and his decisions to befriend them. As a president, that's an enormously fatal flaw.
Of course, Ears should not be held responsible for the actions of his friends. Whom he can no more disown than he can disown his typical white grandmother. Or his race-baiting batshit-crazy pastor. Or um... hey, look over there! Change!
re: #48 doppelganglander Uh, excuse me, but I'm a member of that generation and don't intend to leave any damn sooner than I have to, thankew very much.
WHOA! Thanks Charles! I didn't know he came from a wealthy family, nor that he hired Obama to head that "charity".
Learn something every single darn day here at LGF!
All of the prominent Weathermen came from families that were at least "comfortable." Even in the Sixties your family didn't have a Greenwich Village townhouse--like the one the kiddies blew up on 11th Street while making bombs--if they were poor.
Yeah, so then I'm talkin' to this white chick, and she's so-o-o not getting it, man, about the long-term view and the urgent need for action now, and I ask her if she even knows who I am. She picks her head up and she's right, it just doesn't matter, cause we're living in the belly of the beast, you know, smoke signals from a whale, and ever since I left my last clip at Hooper's place, I've just been burning the hell out of my fingers. I would give my prized Castro Zippo if I could just find a mcdonald's with a 24/7 drive through, and she doesn't care. Death to America.
david horowitz's book "destructive generation" has a great chapter on the weather underground. at one point the decided that smashing the state had to involve smashing monogamy. this lead to the most awkward orgy in recorded history.
don't have the book in front of me. can't remember if ayers and dohrn were involved in the freaky sex. somebody needs to go through it. loads of embarrassing hippie terrorist stories.
Yet another reason to question Obama's character and fitness to be President of the United States - the choices of company who he chose to associate with.
He purposefully sought out racists, extremists, leftists, socialists, marxists, and anti-American terrorists. Obama's version of outreach means extending his hand to terrorists, unabashed anti-American leftists who sought to attack US institutions including terrorist attacks on the US Capitol, racists who think that hope and change is tied to race, and that improving the economy means imposing command economy/anti-capitalist principles that have never worked, and never will.
I was hoping this would turn into a thread. Here's a copy of what I posted in Most Recent Links:
In Fugitive Days, Ayers tries to imagine what happened. Maybe Diana tried to stop the others from their path? Maybe they all drank too much coffee and smoked too many cigarettes?
Maybe Diana saw that this bomb, packed with nails and screws, would have exacted a heavy human toll if it had ever reached its destination—a New Jersey military base. Could she have, in a gesture of sacrifice, crossed the wires herself? "I'll never know what happened," he says. "That's the price I have to pay."
Perfect! - Occam would be proud - create an anti-logical vision of honor and heroism and then top it off with a heavy dose of personalized victimization. The mind boggles!
The big problem with Obama, er, one of the big problems, is that he doesn't know how to distinguish between 'changing America because you love it' and 'changing America because you hate it and think it's the most evil thing on the planet'. If he could make that distinction, it would really help him out. Unfortunately, for him, he doesn't realize his inability to do that and his ignorance and arrogance leads him to initially defend those people, their positions, and his decisions to befriend them. As a president, that's an enormously fatal flaw.
Intentionally blurring the distinction seems to be working pretty well.
Yet another reason to question Obama's character and fitness to be President of the United States - the choices of company who he chose to associate with.
He purposefully sought out racists, extremists, leftists, socialists, marxists, and anti-American terrorists. Obama's version of outreach means extending his hand to terrorists, unabashed anti-American leftists who sought to attack US institutions including terrorist attacks on the US Capitol, racists who think that hope and change is tied to race, and that improving the economy means imposing command economy/anti-capitalist principles that have never worked, and never will.
Didn't his mother travel in those circles? It could be that those kinds of people are who he grew up with...
What interests me is that when a non-leftist kills people, he's clearly denunciated as a murderer who gets executed as soon as legally possible... When a leftist does it, he gets pardoned, and gets a job teaching college.
I'm not intending to excuse Timothy McVeigh, but the comparison shows you the depth of mental rot in this country.
I guess the lesson is this: When you decide to start murdering people, make sure you use the right language in your manifesto.
WHOA! Thanks Charles! I didn't know he came from a wealthy family, nor that he hired Obama to head that "charity".
Learn something every single darn day here at LGF!
Lotsa' radicals and terrorists back then came from the wealthier layer of society.
Here we are trying to judge Obama by the content of his character, and--who'da thunk it?--he and his supporters keep screaming that he's being judged by the color of his skin.
All of the prominent Weathermen came from families that were at least "comfortable." Even in the Sixties your family didn't have a Greenwich Village townhouse--like the one the kiddies blew up on 11th Street while making bombs--if they were poor.
It is a common slander of the poor that poverty leads people to violent radicalism. It just doesn't. Most violent radicals are not poor. Truly poor people are more concerned with survival than revolution.
re: #64 buzzsawmonkey
Uh, well at least one of the Weathermen's foot soldiers came from a lower middle class family - my first former wife's family - and believe it or not, that fool is still in hiding! And near as I can tell he never blew up anything or shot at anybody, just mostly carried "coded" messages back and forth while this [DELETED] Ayers is out there looking for photo ops!
But he certainly didn't come from even a middle -middle class family.
The LEADERS all came from families of financial substantce though, you're right about that.
What a self-important, arrogant piece of scum he is. The worst anti-American haters are the ones who grew up in a privileged environment and turn on the country that made it all possible. The 1960s nearly destroyed this country and it might happen yet if we can't get that generation to just fucking go away. Permanently.
You know I've always thought the country would be a lot better off if we could offer these people status as official "Old Hippies".
Buy the farm in Woodstock, NY and dig a BIG ASSED MOAT around it. Give every certified "Old Hippie" PERMANENT residence there with all the comforts of society (well Soviet society anyway) on the provision that they NEVER LEAVE the place ESPECIALLY never leave to vote.
Make the proposition attractive to the Old Hippies by helo-dropping all the drugs seized by the DEA in enforcement actions after they are no longer evidence.
The Old Hippies get to live permanently stoned out in a perpetual "summer of love" while the rest of us get to live in civilization WITHOUT them.
The more we continue to find out about Hussein, the more of a hateful, racist, radical leftwing partisan hack he is ebing portrayed to be BY HIS OWN HISTORY! I was reading some stats on his brief Senate tenure:
He has NOT crossed the isle ONCE on any vote
and
He has NEVER cosponsored ANY bipartisan legislation!
It's not just the wealth behind these particular punks that gets to me. It's the wealth of the nation, the hard work that made that wealth possible. These are the fruits of that work?
I can't articulate it further. I hope you know what I mean.
It should be very apparent by now that Obama and his cohorts do not love America. They despise it so much that they want to remake America in their image. I think they see Obama as their chance to make change, their chance to create a new America, an America that would be unrecognizable to those of us here.
Forget about Obama and his cohorts being simply Marxists or socialists. I would go so far as to claim they are the epitome of liberal fascists. At least with Hillary, you know she will lie, and you know she will do what she needs to in order to save her political skin. And McCain? He'll joust with the base, fight a little with the party leaders, but in the end, he's not nuts, and he is mostly on our side (gotta dump the amnesty there).
But, Obama and his cohorts seem not to care what they say, and the more outrageous their comments, the more their supporters seem to revel in it. What's scary to me is that certain conservatives are blinded to this type of stuff Obama and his cohorts do and say.
It's not just the wealth behind these particular punks that gets to me. It's the wealth of the nation, the hard work that made that wealth possible. These are the fruits of that work?
I can't articulate it further. I hope you know what I mean.
It's like getting a free car from your parents for graduation, then torching it in the driveway. An infantile act of rebellion. Basically, he's an asshole.
It's like getting a free car from your parents for graduation, then torching it in the driveway. An infantile act of rebellion. Basically, he's an asshole.
I think it's more like torching your parents' house. With them inside.
re: #70 lawhawk Now hold on there my friend - you can't PROVE that he purposely sought them out - he is just sort of a magnet for those types.
Still a reason NOT to vote for him.
Shameless pandering is subject to the Law of Unintended Consequences? Who knew?
maybe not so dumb...maybe Bubba thought that if he pissed her off bad enough during an election cycle, that he wouldn't have to sleep with her ever again!
If a Grand Dragon (or whatever the f**k they're called) of the KKK called you up tomorrow and offered you an appointment to the board of a foundation he had set up, would you take it? Of course not.
Barry was an adult, and there is NO WAY he didn't know who Ayers was or what he stood for.
Now hold on there my friend - you can't PROVE that he purposely sought them out - he is just sort of a magnet for those types.
Still a reason NOT to vote for him.
Based on his mother's own radicalism, I suspect he grew up with those people and had no need to "seek them out", because they were always there.
One meeting is a chance encounter. Twice is a coincidence, but when you start holding meetings, strategy sessions, and going in the same circles as this motley crew, I believe that he has sought them out.
He didn't have a problem going to Ayers and Doern despite knowing, or having reason to know, that they were former terrorists who remain unrepentant anti-American to the core.
re: #81 Globular Cluster
Clinton PARDONED HIM? From what? I don't recall Ayers doing anything other than planning and maybe attempting to do something.
What was he convicted of, do you know?
Way to go, Bill! You undercut your own wife, dipshit.
Believe it, the LAST thing Bill Clinton wants is for Hillary to become President. After eight years of fat, and eight years in the wilderness, would finally come his eight years of lean.
One of the biggest hypocrites of all time. If not THE biggest.
Hates our government, but cashes the checks of a state run institution. Hates globalization but wears Levi's and drinks Starbucks.
These are the idiots that are teaching indoctrinating the youth of America today.
Sad. And this guy is treated like some sort of homegrown hero. He needs to be treated like a criminal and shamed out of the country. I'll buy his one-way ticket to Iran.
Annenberg started TV Guide, and Seventeen. He also owned, among other things, the Philadelphia Inquirer. Nixon appointed him ambassador to Great Britain. Annenberg sold part of his empire to Rupert Murdoch in 1988, and devoted the rest of his life (14 years) to philanthropy.
Every time I leave for reserve duty, I loose touch. So, were there any big food fights? Anyone get axed or were there any controversies the last few days?
It's not just the wealth behind these particular punks that gets to me. It's the wealth of the nation, the hard work that made that wealth possible. These are the fruits of that work?
I can't articulate it further. I hope you know what I mean.
It's like getting a free car from your parents for graduation, then torching it in the driveway. An infantile act of rebellion. Basically, he's an asshole.
Yup. To me, American Leftism is predicated on the inability to admit, accept, and appreciate the sacrifices made by others on one's own behalf.
As we learned from "The Audacity of Hope," Barry O. chose his friends carefully.
And you are the company you keep. 'Rev' Wright, Ayers... THIS is who the lefties want to 'lead' this country? I don't think so. If the left have their way, this wonderful country will be run right into the ground. It's not an option.
Hey, haven't you heard? The Swiss are planning a Plants Rights movement! (C'mon, you knew that was coming!) No munching on helpless arguela! Freedom for our vegetable brothers!
GAH! Bite your tongue! He's not President yet, and hopefully never will be.
I don't know that many whackos but I'll give it a try. Let's see..a Hussein cabinet...
Jeremiah Wright...Sec. of State (snicker)
William Ayers.....Homeland Security
Al gore...sec of interior (if he's through with his busy schedule of course)
Cindy Sheehan...sec. of Defense
that's all I can come up with so far...ohh..Arianna Huffington as Press Secretary..feel free to add AD NAUSEUM (literally)..
"I can no more disown this flag-desecrating-unrepentant- Pentagon-bombing-aged-hippie-revolutionary-psuedo- Marxist-would-be-killer than I can the disown the entire flag-desecrating-unrepentant- Pentagon-bombing-aged-hippie-revolutionary-psuedo- Marxist-would-be-killer community!"
How can you hate America when you hang out in Starbucks, wear Levi jeans and a Banana Republic jacket and some Boston loafers. Hey! are you not promoting those Capitalist Imperialist US companies?
So while I was away, I see that Tom Hanks endorsed Obama? Well it appears to be getting harder and harder for me ever to go to the movies again. So now I understand his films. WW2 was the GOOD war unlike the war on terrorism which is the BAD war.
re: #107 Occasional Reader Um, O.R. - what I said was in semi-jest; but if Ayers sought out Obama, then it's wrong to say Obama sought out Ayers.
Regardless, people -whether rightly or wrongly - are known by the company they keep. And I still think there's something about Obama that attracts mofos like Ayers, Wright and a whole slew of others.
I don't know that many whackos but I'll give it a try. Let's see..a Hussein cabinet...
Jeremiah Wright...Sec. of State (snicker)
William Ayers.....Homeland Security
Al gore...sec of interior (if he's through with his busy schedule of course)
Cindy Sheehan...sec. of Defense
that's all I can come up with so far...ohh..Arianna Huffington as Press Secretary..feel free to add AD NAUSEUM (literally)..
How can you hate America when you hang out in Starbucks, wear Levi jeans and a Banana Republic jacket and some Boston loafers. Hey! are you not promoting those Capitalist Imperialist US companies?
Shh... it's ok when they do it, for they really don't care about what they say they care about.
They want you and I to be living in teepees, pooing in a whole, wearing nothing but hemp clothing, wearing sandals, walking everywhere....
That way there is no one in the way when they fly in their private jets and are driving around in a limo and suv procession from one mansion to another.
Remember, it is only a crime to be rich if you are conservative.
Clinton PARDONED HIM? From what? I don't recall Ayers doing anything other than planning and maybe attempting to do something.
What was he convicted of, do you know?
Correction: Clintoned pardoned "Susan L. Rosenberg, a one-time member of the Weather Underground terrorist group who was charged in the notorious 1981 Brink's robbery in Rockland County that left a guard and two police officers dead."
How can you hate America when you hang out in Starbucks, wear Levi jeans and a Banana Republic jacket and some Boston loafers. Hey! are you not promoting those Capitalist Imperialist US companies?
So while I was away, I see that Tom Hanks endorsed Obama? Well it appears to be getting harder and harder for me ever to go to the movies again. So now I understand his films. WW2 was the GOOD war unlike the war on terrorism which is the BAD war.
re: #112 Spiny Norman
Ah, that makes a lot of sense. But there's still something about Obama's character - or lack thereof - that attracts these types.
When it came time for questions for Wolfson, I asked an obvious one: Did Hillary Clinton believe that it had been appropriate in 2001 for President Bill Clinton to have pardoned two members of the Weather Underground as he left office? The two recipients of Clinton's munificence were Linda Evans, who was sentenced to five years in prison for her participation in a string of 1980s bombings, and Susan Rosenberg, who was charged with participating in a bank robbery that left one guard and two police officers dead. And, I continued, has Senator Clinton ever criticized this decision? Has she ever said anything publicly about it? Rosenberg, I noted, had been apprehended with 740 pounds of explosives in her possession.
How can you hate America when you hang out in Starbucks, wear Levi jeans and a Banana Republic jacket and some Boston loafers. Hey! are you not promoting those Capitalist Imperialist US companies?
It's OK if you steal them.
And if the Daddy's trust fund pays for them, well, that's KIND of like stealing, isn't it? So that's permitted, too.
Shh... it's ok when they do it, for they really don't care about what they say they care about.
They want you and I to be living in teepees, pooing in a whole, wearing nothing but hemp clothing, wearing sandals, walking everywhere....
That way there is no one in the way when they fly in their private jets and are driving around in a limo and suv procession from one mansion to another.
Remember, it is only a crime to be rich if you are conservative.
I wonder at how many of her three houses Sally Quinn has hosted him.
ya ever notice every time you see her she looks piised off? even when she sniles she looks like she wants to kill someone...lotta love there..great philanthropical possibilities from that winner!
Annenberg started TV Guide, and Seventeen. He also owned, among other things, the Philadelphia Inquirer. Nixon appointed him ambassador to Great Britain. Annenberg sold part of his empire to Rupert Murdoch in 1988, and devoted the rest of his life (14 years) to philanthropy.
Annenberg's family made its money through runnin' fire water out of Canada.
His father gave him a fair amount of money during his last years in high school, which he invested and made millions.
He studied at the Peddie School in Hightstown, NJ.
He wanted to study at Peddie's rival school, Lawrenceville, but Lawrenceville didn't accept Jews.
He made enough money while in HS that he donated the athletics building and football field.
He donated $100 mil to Peddie in the early 90's.
I never figured him as a lib.
Then again, the Ford Foundation's political leanings reflect nothing at all about Ford.
"I can no more disown this flag-desecrating-unrepentant- Pentagon-bombing-aged-hippie-revolutiona ry-psuedo-Marxist-would-be-killer than I can the disown the entire flag-desecrating-unrepentant- Pentagon-bombing-aged-hippie-revolutiona ry-psuedo-Marxist-would-be-killer community!"
Actually, Andrew (spit) Sullivan (big Barry O supporter) inadvertently gave the game away on the Hewitt show the other night. In responding to Dean Barnett's questions about Ayers (and Wright, too, if I recall correctly), Sullivan excused Obama's tin ear by saying (and I paraphrase) "Well, to him (Obama), these statements didn't sound all that radical."
Which is precisely the point - Obama has spent the last 20 years in Leftist-Black-Liberation-Grievance-Community-Organ izer-DiversityWorld, with no clue as to how the Rest of America really sees them, while believing that the Rest of America are just a bunch of racist, religious, gun-worshiping yahoos.
I don't think that even the MSM can drag this loser over the finish line.
So while I was away, I see that Tom Hanks endorsed Obama? Well it appears to be getting harder and harder for me ever to go to the movies again. So now I understand his films. WW2 was the GOOD war unlike the war on terrorism which is the BAD war.
Every time I leave for reserve duty, I lose touch. So, were there any big food fights? Anyone get axed or were there any controversies the last few days?
How can you hate America when you hang out in Starbucks, wear Levi jeans and a Banana Republic jacket and some Boston loafers. Hey! are you not promoting those Capitalist Imperialist US companies?
The phenomenon of Limosine Liberals is a real one. Radical Chic is one manifestation, but there is another. Like Lenin, Mao, Castro, Chavez, Obama, and Hillary Clinton, there is a personality that claims materialistic privilege far beyond what their philosophy espouses, under the guise that their comfort allows them greater zeal in pursuit of the cause. This is narcisim, and is a psychological disorder.
Could someone explain how people who hate & actively work to bring down America rise to the top of their fields - academia, media, entertainment, government - & get rich & famous while guys like me who love America toil in obscurity?
The phenomenon of Limosine Liberals is a real one. Radical Chic is one manifestation, but there is another. Like Lenin, Mao, Castro, Chavez, Obama, and Hillary Clinton, there is a personality that claims materialistic privilege far beyond what their philosophy espouses, under the guise that their comfort allows them greater zeal in pursuit of the cause. This is narcisim, and is a psychological disorder.
It's a personality disorder for which there is no treatment or cure.
Makes you wonder what the cocktail conversation is like at alot of those lib parties on the left coast? Boy would I stand out like cat at an all dog party!
amazing, that's a grown man, not a teenager or college kid, stepping on the flag and stomping. oh, the melodrama. oh, the courage of this stupid "radical". why doesn't he join the taliban and show some real commitment to destroying his country. he's a wet noodle.
For a brief time during one of my duty assignments in the Army, I served as a member of the Color & Honor Guard that would provide services for the geographic region around our post.
I saw more funerals in 6 months than most people see in a lifetime.
I have bowed my head and presented a freshly folded flag to Wives, Mothers and Fathers, Children and siblings.
He may think he's a big deal standing on a flag in an overgrown alley, it certainly tells me everything I need to know about him and everyone that associates with him.
It also gives me pause to remember that straight line of seven rifles with bayonets fixed.
The fact that we let him live is proof he is a liar and a fool.
The phenomenon of Limosine Liberals is a real one. Radical Chic is one manifestation, but there is another. Like Lenin, Mao, Castro, Chavez, Obama, and Hillary Clinton, there is a personality that claims materialistic privilege far beyond what their philosophy espouses, under the guise that their comfort allows them greater zeal in pursuit of the cause. This is narcisim, and is a psychological disorder.
I think that is a great post. It is very true, I don't think I would've arrived at such a succinct answer on my own. Thanks!
Alright, I'm going out on a limb here, but if any lizard is good with photoshop--I suspect that if you morph Obama's and Hillary's faces together, you'll wind up with
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Could someone explain how people who hate & actively work to bring down America rise to the top of their fields - academia, media, entertainment, government - & get rich & famous while guys like me who love America toil in obscurity?
Could someone explain how people who hate & actively work to bring down America rise to the top of their fields - academia, media, entertainment, government - & get rich & famous while guys like me who love America toil in obscurity?
Alright, I'm going out on a limb here, but if any lizard is good with photoshop--I suspect that if you morph Obama's and Hillary's faces together, you'll wind up with
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Didn't his mother travel in those circles? It could be that those kinds of people are who he grew up with...
re: #99 realwest
Now hold on there my friend - you can't PROVE that he purposely sought them out - he is just sort of a magnet for those types.
Still a reason NOT to vote for him.
His interview with Russert on MTP yesterday provided me with all the proof I need as to whether he chooses to associate with and embraces the hate America crowd. His choice to worship (the Black Liberation Church - Trinity UCC):
My commitments are to the values of that church, my commitment is to Christ; it's not to Reverend Wright.
He appeared to carefully include this among his statements to send a clear message to his fellow parishioners et al.
Could someone explain how people who hate & actively work to bring down America rise to the top of their fields - academia, media, entertainment, government - & get rich & famous while guys like me who love America toil in obscurity?
because we would have to do a stint as someone's butt monkey for a while, and that's where we draw the line. These folks are just shills and whores for a larger "down with America" lemming-like group-think.
Right now Hussein's puppetmaster is the iron curtain money machine Soros... I'd rather be poor and obscure frankly.
I guarantee you that our prisons are filled with narcissists an sociopaths.
There was a study a few years ago showing that prison inmates had high levels of self-esteem, which contradicted what the researchers had hoped to find.
Is this as shocking as seeing a photo of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam?
Do a google search for "Yalta Conference." You may see some shocking photos.
Though, you'd probably have been proud to have your photo taken with Stalin.
The Gipper must surely be rolling in his grave, knowing that his former speechwriter is penning this sort of drivel:
I have seen, heard and respected the pain of a people who were forced to come here when they did not want to and made to live in a way that no one would want to. Who could deny them their grief or anger?
Excuse me? Who among the 'Bitter' was forced to come here? Great-great-grandparents, perhaps, but for how long must apology be demanded of a populace that had nothing do do with slavery?
"A 'people'?" Are now even former staunch Republicans buying into the inherent racism that phrase implies? Because there is but one common denominator among the diverse selection of humanity who were enslaved in the pre-Civil War U.S.A.
Since when does skin color make one of "a people"?
I don't understand why these children of the privileged (face it, this guy probably never did an honest day's work in his life) what to screw up the greatest economic model that ever existed for mankind. Serfdom is the future he sees for the "rest of us". It is always the trust fund babies that want this. It utterly repulses me.
Is this as shocking as seeing a photo of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam?
What is shocking about that? At the time Saddam was an Ally against the Iranians. As misguided as that policy may have been or as misguided as it's implementation was, The fact remains that as a Representative of this country, that was Rumsfeld's duty to do so.
There was a study a few years ago showing that prison inmates had high levels of self-esteem, which contradicted what the researchers had hoped to find.
justiceforall just wants justice for all! Why is that so hard to see? Let's seriously think about what he's trying to say and I'm sure we'll have a change of heart.
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Do a google search for "Yalta Conference." You may see some shocking photos.
Though, you'd probably have been proud to have your photo taken with Stalin.
Hey, but WE ARMED SADDAM! You know, with all those American-made T-80 tanks and MiG-29s!
For a brief time during one of my duty assignments in the Army, I served as a member of the Color & Honor Guard that would provide services for the geographic region around our post.
I saw more funerals in 6 months than most people see in a lifetime.
I have bowed my head and presented a freshly folded flag to Wives, Mothers and Fathers, Children and siblings.
He may think he's a big deal standing on a flag in an overgrown alley, it certainly tells me everything I need to know about him and everyone that associates with him.
It also gives me pause to remember that straight line of seven rifles with bayonets fixed.
The fact that we let him live is proof he is a liar and a fool.
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Thank you for your service burying heroes who defended what our flag represents to people who believe in truth, justice, freedom & liberty--not its opposite, radical totalitarianism.
It's about "Chu - chu - chu - ange..." doncha know? Change means ridding America of "special interests" (like those who wear flag lapel pins, or salute the flag, etc)...yeah, the Obamatons love the "Loose Change" theorists and all terrorists...from Ayers to HAMAS.
How can you hate America when you hang out in Starbucks, wear Levi jeans and a Banana Republic jacket and some Boston loafers. Hey! are you not promoting those Capitalist Imperialist US companies?
Remember: all pigs are equal, but some pigs are more equal than others!
The best Presidents were not narcissistic, the worse were. Reagan, Kennedy, Washington, Lincoln, differed greatly, going from self-doubters to the very confident, but none were narcissistic. Jimmy Carter, the latter Roosevelt, Wilson were.
It is a common slander of the poor that poverty leads people to violent radicalism. It just doesn't. Most violent radicals are not poor. Truly poor people are more concerned with survival than revolution.
True. And most revolutionaries are concerned not only with revolution, but with rotation--i.e., spin.
re: #194 Occasional Reader He made a series of BAD posts (he's hurting cause his sister may have lymphoma) when he was drunk - or appeared to be and then when he appeared to be he made several personal attacks on Charles. Mind you I said attacks, not that he disagreed with Charles on something.
I think he needs serious help. But Charles - as he himself said - need not tolerate personally insulting comments on HIS OWN BLOG. And there were more than one such attack.
There was a study a few years ago showing that prison inmates had high levels of self-esteem, which contradicted what the researchers had hoped to find.
In fact the studies have consistently shown that bullies and criminals have the highest self-esteem. The lowest is among the smartest, who constantly second guess themselves. Demographically, young undereducated black females have the highest self-esteem. As you stated, the studies easily demonstrated that 20 years of sociological textbooks were 100% off.
They were trying to justify why public schools should focus on childrens' self-esteem, rather than teaching them anything useful. They hoped the study would make their case. It didn't.
Sirah Wahhaj, unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 WTC bombing was the first Muslim cleric to offer the invocation at the opening session of Congress. He has dined with former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and serves on the boards of no less than five major Muslim organizations.
As Ayers wrote later, he took fire from Greene's lectures on how the "oppressive hegemony" of the capitalist social order "reproduces" itself through the traditional practice of public schooling-critical pedagogy's fancy way of saying that the evil corporations exercise thought control through the schools.
Greene told future teachers that they could help change this bleak landscape by developing a "transformative" vision of social justice and democracy in their classrooms. Her vision, though, was a far cry from the democratic optimism of the Founding Fathers, Abraham Lincoln, and Martin Luther King Jr., which most parents would endorse. Instead, critical pedagogy theorists nurse a rancorous view of an America in which it is always two minutes to midnight and a knock on the door by the thought police is imminent. The education professors feel themselves anointed to use the nation's K-12 classrooms to resist this oppressive system. Thus Maxine Greene urged teachers not to mince words with children about the evils of the existing social order. They should portray "homelessness as a consequence of the private dealings of landlords, an arms buildup as a consequence of corporate decisions, racial exclusion as a consequence of a private property-holder's choice." In other words, they should turn the little ones into young socialists and critical theorists.
All music to Bill Ayers's ears. The ex-Weatherman glimpsed a new radical vocation. He dreamed of bringing the revolution from the streets to the schools. And that's exactly what he has managed to do.
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Yes, the Washington Post pointed out in Saturday March 1 that Ayers is Vice President of some national association's curriculum committee...Obama probably would nominate Ayers to head the US Department of Education at this rate.
Is this as shocking as seeing a photo of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam?
He was the Reagan administration's special envoy to the Middle East in 1983. What do you think he should have done.... spit on Hussein then bitch slapped him?
Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin all met in Iran in 1943 to discuss landing troops in Europe to defeat Germany. Do you think Roosevelt should have refused to meet with Uncle Joe?
all: Anyone except conservatives because they're dumb. They must be, because my college professor said so and they would never lie. Also... the moon landings? Never happened. 9/11 was an inside job. I'd have gotten away with it, if not for those pesky kids. Also, my plan kind of sucked. And my monster costume left quite a bit to hope for. Basically, yeah, america sucks because my professor said so.
At one point I worked with a very smart and successful person, a true anything-goes hippie under a colorful fashion sense. She was very active at Madison in all the anti stuff. Even back then, she said she felt horrible about what happened at the Chicago convention and some of the other violence. She said they didn't mean for anyone to get hurt.
Obviously, people like William Ayers didn't come out of those years with the same feeling. They would have liked more rather than less violence. If he fired the starting gun (so to speak) for Barak Obama, then Obama is either lacking anti-violence ethics or he is dumb. Either way, he is not the guy to be president.
Bill Clinton was not narcissistic, he always sought advice and was frequently poll driven. He is the kid who needs to be liked. But Hillary.....
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HIllary's dad was a Republican, and she's growing more to like him every day!
(there's a great article about Hillary's turning into a tough moderate/centrist at [Link: www.weeklystandard.com...] by noemy somebody)
And weren't our sales multi-use helicopters? The left keeps staing we sold chemical weapons. Absurd. I doubt a US firm was ever allowed to sell chemical weapons. Even their manufacture is against the law in the US.The government made it's own.
If he hates it so much, just get the f*ck out. Am I missing something? I generally don't linger somewhere I don't like.
I love how the most radical elements always seem to gravitate towards academia. There is no other occupation that lives off the 'fat of the land', the success of society, the surplus resources as do University employees (besides actors and musicians).
Uh, excuse me, but I'm a member of that generation and don't intend to leave any damn sooner than I have to, thankew very much.
Amen!
And that goes for a lot of the rest of us who spent a significant part of the 1960's wearing a uniform in various shades of green or blue and serving in assorted dangerous or potentially dangerous places.
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HIllary's dad was a Republican, and she's growing more to like him every day!
(there's a great article about Hillary's turning into a tough moderate/centrist at [Link: www.weeklystandard.com...] by noemy somebody)
re: #264 Occasional Reader Boy, ain't that the truth - Austin is really worse than say Ann Arbor cause the women are prettier and the folks in Texas don't recognize weirod leftism right amongst them!
I doubt a US firm was ever allowed to sell chemical weapons.
US companies sold (perfectly legal) industrial chemicals to Saddam's Iraq, some of which were incorporated into the chemical weapons program. Of course, lots of non-US companies did the same. And the chemicals themselves had valid industrial uses (e.g. chlorine).
It is truly frightening that I would actually run to the booth and vote for her if it was between her and Barry. Obama needs to be stopped. For my children's future, he needs to be stopped.
Surely, you must know that merely wanting to emigrate to another country is not easy. Try it sometime. Other countries enforce their immigration laws and will not allow you in unless you a) have a skill they need b) have a sponsor and c) pay up a hefty fee d) claim asylum. The last time I checked Belize was the easiest to emigrate to. They would let you buy a passport for $150k (which would be chump change to this guy).
But that's not the point. He want's us to overturn our own system, and start a new system (one where he is in the ruling class, undoubtedly).
Yeah, ya know they STILL don't understand that you can't GIVE someone self-esteem, it's got to be EARNED by that person.
Geebus, it's really not that hard to understand!
Yeah, ya know they STILL don't understand that you can't GIVE someone self-esteem, it's got to be EARNED by that person.
Geebus, it's really not that hard to understand!
But, but all people are EQUAL if one child isn't as good at a subject his self esteem won't be equal to another child who is.
As in Walter Annenberg, of TV Guide magazine fame? I thought he was a friend of the Nixons (or was it the Reagans?).
All the charitable foundations eventually get taken over by liberal trustees. It's the nature of the beast. John D. & Kathryn T. MacArthur were so right wing they'd be an embarrassment to most posters on LGF, now their family foundation funds NPR, among other leftist causes.
Video shows Barack not holding his hand over his heart as National Anthem played, while Hillary, Bill Richardson and others have their hands over their hearts.
Video cuts to still image of Barack Obama not holding his hand over his heart.
Voice over: Barack Obama says he will bring hope and change to America. While he has only served in Congress for four years, he says his experience working for his friend and employer William Ayers as a community organizer qualifies him to be President.
Video cuts to split screen of Barack Obama on the left, and still image of William Ayers on the right, standing on the American flag.
Voice over: William Ayers says America is rotten to the core. In the sixties, he bombed the Pentagon, the private house of a New York state judge conducting a criminal trial of his fellow Weather Underground members, and said in 2001 that he does not regret being a domestic terrorist, and thinks about doing it again. Barack Obama refuses to disown William Ayers
Cut to video of Barack Obama refusing to disown William Ayers (George Stephanopolous debate)
But, but all people are EQUAL if one child isn't as good at a subject his self esteem won't be equal to another child who is.
We must have equal outcomes.
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Remember the Bed of Procrustes in Greek mythology.
Procrustes was an ogre/innkeeper who had a bed that would fit anyone, because if they were too short, he racked them out to the full length of the bed, and if they were too tall he would lop off anything which protruded over it.
Theseus, on his way to Athens, stops over with Procrustes and serves him as he had served so many hapless travelers in the past.
"Equality of result" is a political Bed of Procrustes.
Remember the Bed of Procrustes in Greek mythology.
Procrustes was an ogre/innkeeper who had a bed that would fit anyone, because if they were too short, he racked them out to the full length of the bed, and if they were too tall he would lop off anything which protruded over it.
Theseus, on his way to Athens, stops over with Procrustes and serves him as he had served so many hapless travelers in the past.
"Equality of result" is a political Bed of Procrustes.
The Greeks figured it out 4000 years ago....
What's wrong with the libs?
Yes, helicopters only. Some other countries (Egypt, Jordan etc) sold weapons from the US. But that still only pushes up the percentage a couple points. Chemical weapons, the technology for making them & the training for using them all came from the USSR & East Germany. There was also a Dutch businessman caught selling chemical precursors to the Iraqis. The East German colonel who lead the chemical weapons training team to Iraq gave a tell-all interview to a German magazine a few years ago.
I did apologize; maybe it got lost because the thread was moving fast. I really didn't mean to refer to anyone but the radical/activist types, and I failed to make that clear.
Also, thank you for your service. My father and my husband served, and my son is serving now. I am sincerely sorry if I offended you.
Uh, well at least one of the Weathermen's foot soldiers came from a lower middle class family - my first former wife's family - and believe it or not, that fool is still in hiding! And near as I can tell he never blew up anything or shot at anybody, just mostly carried "coded" messages back and forth while this [DELETED] Ayers is out there looking for photo ops!
But he certainly didn't come from even a middle -middle class family.
The LEADERS all came from families of financial substantce though, you're right about that.
Realwest, if you're still here; one of the most disgusting things about the "radical" period of the '60s is how the depravity of some rich kids playing with drugs, poverty and revolution suckered in a lot of other young folks who did not have the support systems the rich kids had.
When the rich kids got tired of playacting and wanted to go home, they had bushels of family cash and armies of attorneys to ensure that they could. And they left the others, to whom they had acted as Pied Pipers, left to fend for themselves on the bleak rocks of Burnout Island.
Once upon a time you dressed so fine
You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you?
People'd call, say, "Beware doll, you're bound to fall"
You thought they were all kiddin' you
You used to laugh about
Everybody that was hangin' out
Now you don't talk so loud
Now you don't seem so proud
About having to be scrounging for your next meal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be without a home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
You've gone to the finest school all right, Miss Lonely
But you know you only used to get juiced in it
And nobody has ever taught you how to live on the street
And now you find out you're gonna have to get used to it
You said you'd never compromise
With the mystery tramp, but now you realize
He's not selling any alibis
As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
And ask him do you want to make a deal?
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
You never turned around to see the frowns on the jugglers and the clowns
When they all come down and did tricks for you
You never understood that it ain't no good
You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you
You used to ride on the chrome horse with your diplomat
Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat
Ain't it hard when you discover that
He really wasn't where it's at
After he took from you everything he could steal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
Princess on the steeple and all the pretty people
They're drinkin', thinkin' that they got it made
Exchanging all kinds of precious gifts and things
But you'd better lift your diamond ring, you'd better pawn it babe
You used to be so amused
At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used
Go to him now, he calls you, you can't refuse
When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose
You're invisible now, you got no secrets to conceal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
If I hated being someplace, and it wasn't going to CHANGE on its' own, I'd just leave. I'd pack my bags and move someplace that I think is better.
Why can't these clowns do the same?
Look at Madonna. She thinks America sucks; she moved to London, England. I have a bit of respect for her for that.
For the same reason that liberals like to infiltrate a conservative church and split it wide open:
(A) That is just one more institution, which they despise, that is destroyed;
(B) It's cheaper to have everything such as the building, etc. set up for them; all they have to do is move in, take over, and get rid of the "undesirables"
Let's put it this way, do Baby Boomer liberals in the Hamptons and other enclaves live any differently than the people they claimed to despise in the 60s? Take away their liberal views on abortion and homosexuality and what you are left with are rich white people living in exclusive neighborhoods and, for the most part, only come into contact with minorities through them being the hired help and/or PR photo-ops.
Serfdom is the future he sees for the "rest of us". It is always the trust fund babies that want this. It utterly repulses me.
That’s it exactly. They want the role of the superior aristocrats. The lower orders should remain grateful -- and lower so as not to clutter up the world with their own houses, cars, material goods, etc. , or actually expect to have some say in how things are run. It has long seemed to me that leftists have more of a desire to keep the poor as help objects rather than actually helping them. If the poor were actually helped, might they then end up among the (despised by leftists and aristocrats alike) middle class? I loathe these hypocrites.
This is a perfect example of brand authenticity. The photo, the man and the back story are all perfectly aligned in communicating the essence of contemporary liberal Democrats.
Thanks for responding with an argument rather than just angry swear words. I'm guessing you have a little more bravery and intellect than some of the others.
That said, why do you think the link to Ayers is worst? The only people the Weather Underground killed will members of their own by accident (bomb detonated prematurely). Saddam killed many more, both when the U.S. was assisting him and when it wasn't.
Preach on. Never fight for change. Never question leaders. Follow orders. Accept your fate. If you address social problems in America, then the terrorists win.
I agree vsente...excellent example of branding. Notice the eco- friendly greenbelt in the alley as well...urban America. His smug look of indifference and superiority is evident in the pose.
The new liberal elite class is masterfully demonstrated in this photo.
Justiceforall -Fly's 6 O'clock low as a junior shitbird providing cover for uber shitbirds such as Bill Ayers. His goggles aren't just dirty, they are covered with the offal of such as Bill Ayers.
Limousine leftism is a well-established tradition indeed. Lenin was riding around in the Czar's Rolls-Royce the first chance he got. Earlier on, when in exile in Switzerland, he was complaining about how hard it was to get good household help. Orwell pinned it pretty well about these animals. One of the things I admired about Lech Walesa was that he was an actual working-class person leading a working-class movement, what a concept.
Also a tradition for those of the type of Michael Moore, Garrison Keillor, Lillian Hellman, etc., who like to present themselves as so humane and having the bests interests of the people at heart, to actually treat a lot of the people they encounter in daily life, particularly those in assistant roles, pretty shabbily.
Speak truth to power, bro! Fight for social justice! (as opposed to, I guess, un-social justice, or just plain justice?) Never question your progressive leaders, such as Bill Ayers! To do so is counter-revolutionary, and, besides, he wears a funky backpack! Too Cool! You must support, unquestioningly, all third-world, oppressed persons; remember, one man's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter, and you don't support the Revolution, then Amerikkka, and capitalism, win.
And remember, anyone who disagrees with you is a Nazi.
/Sarcasm tags are instruments of capitalist oppression.
Of all the people on G-d's green earth, leftist progressive are, in my experience, the ones most deeply out of touch with ordinary working people. Truth to tell, they actually dislike them, and think the working man, at least in America, is kinda uppity, and ought to be put in his place.
It bugs me that Hillary (and McCain if I'm remembering right) are strongly saying that they'll flatten Iran *after* Iran bombs Israel... which will pretty much make Israel uninhabitable. Given the crazy Iranian prophet people and their wanting destruction to get that guy to pop out of the well, it seems like the "after" threat is an inducement rather than deterrence.
Truth to tell, they actually dislike them, and think the working man, at least in America, is kinda uppity, and ought to be put in his place.
Spot on! I don't think they can forgive the American working class in general for pretty much rejecting their leadership and values. I probably should put sarcasm quotes around leadership and values in this case.
Not for lack of trying: the Weathermen did firebomb the home of a judge and his family. Were it not for the quick response of a neighbor, the family could well have been murdered. Your attempt to portray these terrorists as hapless but lovable hippies is pathetic. It is precisely this kind of moral inversion, distortion of facts and stunning lack of logic we have seen so often on the Left these days that inspires many people here to simply tell you to shut the fuck up. We are soooooo tired of listening to the same drivel from your ilk. Once upon a time, the Democratic Party was a champion of democracy & liberty for all. Sadly, those days are long gone.
The US gave very limited support to Saddam for a brief period, unlike many other countries (Russia, France, & China) which supported him throughout his heinous career. US support of Iraq during the war with Iran was based upon the real politic goal, as expressed by the then Secretary of State, "We want both side to loose the war."
The US also made amends for that support by finally deposing Saddam, over the cynical objections of those same countries which still had hopes for oil & money from Saddam.
Along with his fluffy Chairman Mao bedroom slippers?
(By the way, I get a kick out of Ayers' expression, in the photograph accompanying the article; he seems to be saying, "So, you don't like me trampling your Bite me, Peasants!" Let 'em eat cake, aye, Billy?)
You got it, my man! (Duck?) They hate the working class, for rejecting their "kind" and "benevolent" leadership. Really, the progressives know what's best for everyone! Why won't the peasants allow themselves to be led?
I tell ya, if these guys had their way, they'd be living in palaces, and issuing sumptory laws * (laws telling the lower classes how to dress, what they could eat, buy, etc.), in order to keep the peasants in their place, and clearly recognizable as peasants.
*Of course, they try that with all their "green" save-the-planet regulations, don't they?
She sits on the boards of both the American Bar Association and the American Civil Liberties Union.
Why am I not surprised? This is the same ABA that accredits law schools and has instituted new standards that in effect would require law schools to break the law if need be in order to further “diversity.”
p.s. technical question -- when you want to include a quote from a post , how do you get it to indent? I've tried a couple of different ways without success.
That said, why do you think the link to Ayers is worst?
Obama described Ayres as a friend & neighbor, his political career was launched from Ayres living room and Obama served on the board of a local organization with Ayres. Ayers has stated very clearly he is unrepentant of his bombing and only wishes he would have done more.
Rumsfeld never described Saddam as a friend. As an agent of the US President he negotiated a treaty with Saddam to further US interests in the region. The US later stopped support for Saddam when he re3neged on that treaty. Eventually the US deposed Saddam and are fighting to bring democracy & freedom to Iraq.
Obama opposes the US mission to bring freedom & democracy to Iraq. He would have left Saddam in power & he is now content to turn Iraq over to the Iranian mullah's dictatorship.
Now can you see the problem we have with Obama & Ayres?
The only people the Weather Underground killed will members of their own by accident (bomb detonated prematurely).
So that should get a pass because they were unable to kill others through their own stupidity? Saddam had a date with the hangman for his troubles, sounds like this douche (Ayers) deserves the same fate.
It appeals to a very limited subgroup who are anti-American at every turn anyway.
It shows a Truth to millions of other Americans who need to get off the fence.
It is very, very useful idiocy.
Thank you, Mr. Unrepentant Terrorist.
I agree. It's like that incident in 2006 when some pro-illegal immigration people put a Mexican flag above the U.S. flag, and the U.S. flag was upside down. Offensive as that is to me, I know it's bound to offend a lot of other Americans and undermine sympathy for the causes of people who do that kind of thing. Come on, moonbats! Show us who you really are!
Then I assume you were 1000% in favor of getting rid of him.
Oops. Bad assumption on my part. Leftists have no problem with genocide or torture at the hands of former or present global despots. In fact, leftists are the biggest fans of the world's worst - Castro, Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot...
Along with his fluffy Chairman Mao bedroom slippers?
Chairman Mao bathrobe, with Communist Chinese high-button collar, in drab blue. Special red pocket for the Little Red Book. Available at Urbane Outfitters everywhere.
I've often thought much the same thing. Those who have most dramatically benefitted from being a part of American society seem to be fastest to damn it. I think, at the end of the day, their hatred of our capitalist system is not really a cry for egalitarianism. On the contrary, their resentment is much more a desire for the feudal past. They resent that, in a capitalist society, "richer" does not mean "better", that whatever privilege and fortune they enjoy is "at the mercy of their bank account", and that they are not accorded their "due" as the superiors of the masses. In effect, they long to play the role of feudal lords with the rest of us as their serfs. In practice, communism has always operated in much the same way as ancient feudal systems. The limosine leftists find this the perfect antidote to the fact that money cannot buy respect.
For a brief time during one of my duty assignments in the Army, I served as a member of the Color & Honor Guard that would provide services for the geographic region around our post.
I saw more funerals in 6 months than most people see in a lifetime.
I have bowed my head and presented a freshly folded flag to Wives, Mothers and Fathers, Children and siblings.
He may think he's a big deal standing on a flag in an overgrown alley, it certainly tells me everything I need to know about him and everyone that associates with him.
It also gives me pause to remember that straight line of seven rifles with bayonets fixed.
The fact that we let him live is proof he is a liar and a fool.
Standing a flag line, with my brothers and sisters in the Patriot Guard, watching that flag-draped casket -- and watching that flag folded, and presented to (in some cases, wives who are barely of legal drinking age) the family, is always tough to do without crying. I think about the generations of men and women who bled and died for that flag and the people it represents.
I've often thought much the same thing. Those who have most dramatically benefitted from being a part of American society seem to be fastest to damn it. I think, at the end of the day, their hatred of our capitalist system is not really a cry for egalitarianism. On the contrary, their resentment is much more a desire for the feudal past. They resent that, in a capitalist society, "richer" does not mean "better", that whatever privilege and fortune they enjoy is "at the mercy of their bank account", and that they are not accorded their "due" as the superiors of the masses. In effect, they long to play the role of feudal lords with the rest of us as their serfs. In practice, communism has always operated in much the same way as ancient feudal systems. The limosine leftists find this the perfect antidote to the fact that money cannot buy respect.
And we left that behind in July 1776, with slavery(serfdom) to be jettisoned in June 1865.
Ultimately, it's about these buffoons wanting all of us to travel back in time. With all the money they have to have the TIME to dwell on such stupidity, why don't they invest in research on time machines?
And we left that behind in July 1776, with slavery(serfdom) to be jettisoned in June 1865.
Ultimately, it's about these buffoons wanting all of us to travel back in time. With all the money they have to have the TIME to dwell on such stupidity, why don't they invest in research on time machines?
At the very least they could do us all a favour and use the one from Napoleon Dynamite and shock themselves in the gonads. Repeatedly.
I am amazed that Ayers has been able to eat at restaurants with the attitudes he has. It wouldn't bother me a bit if every restaurant in his town refused him service.
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YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT HIS PART OF CHICAGO IS MOONBAT CENTRAL. THIS IS THE LATTE DRINKERS OBAMA IS GETTING SUPPORT FROM
The only people the Weather Underground killed will members of their own by accident (bomb detonated prematurely).
So that should get a pass because they were unable to kill others through their own stupidity? Saddam had a date with the hangman for his troubles, sounds like this douche (Ayers) deserves the same fate.
THAT IS NOT TRUE THEY DID KILL AMERICANS, ONE BOMBING MURDERED A SCIENTIST, AND THEN THERE WAS A COP THEY MURDERED IN A BANK ROBBERY.
Yeah, I've commented on that before......everyone I know who are cyncal "America-sucks", "Why can't we be more like Europe", " That shows how shitty America is"...the folks that say these things are always rather well off. Maybe not rich (although some are) but have been given very comfortable lives.
Even in my family, the only Democrat that I know, is also the only relative I have who could be called wealthy. (if you don't count a farmer whose wealth is in land).
My great appreciation to you and those like you. My dad, a WW II Navy veteran, passed away last year. A Navy Honor Guard attended his funeral, and their presence was a great comfort and tribute. The sailor who presented the folded flag to my mom had tears in his eyes as he handed it to her.
I think, at the end of the day, their hatred of our capitalist system is not really a cry for egalitarianism. On the contrary, their resentment is much more a desire for the feudal past.
help! I need to know how get the indents on quotes! Although those are my sentiments exactly, I don't want it to look like I'm saying something said (and so well) by someone else.
Time machines for the Moonbats? G-d forbid! They'd immediately try to rewrite history to make it all turn out "their" way, the "right" way----and you can just imagine what that would be like! We'd need Time Cops, to keep them from mucking everything up.
(Pray we never invent time travel. It will be a disaster.)
And, Bill Delasio, I agree; I've thought for a long time that what the Left wants, despite their avowed hate for the Middle Ages, and the Crusades, etc., is a feudal world, we're they're in control, and the working man knows his place---which, to them, is pulling his forelock humbly whenever the gentry pass by, working himself to death without a single complaint, paying his taxes and blindly following whatever faith his betters decide to shove down his throat. (with the Left, that will probably be worship of Mother Gaia.)
I've lived, by the way, in the OC, and I can tell you right now that trophy wives, trust fund brats and those who have inherited wealth harbor a deep fury when their "inferiors" don't treat them with what they consider proper respect (which, in their case, means kow-towing and groveling). I suspect that kind of anger is really what motivates a lot of well-to-do Leftwingers. They dream of being little Stalins, with their own police force, to whip us peasants into line.
Imperialism, globalization, what's in a name? Professor Ayers hates it in all its forms. Except for Starbucks. A complex man. Ayers, the revolutionary Marxist, disdaining materialism. Except for the prestige of a top-tier academic lifestyle, an easy, fat paycheck and sweet book deals. Ayers, hero of the Revo, bold and brilliant, the Yankee Che, impervious to bourgeois aspirations. Except for sycophantic articles in Chicago Magazine. A complex man. Complex, because he is a Man of the Left. In a lesser man, one would call it hypocrisy.
Or, a caption:
Goddam America! Goddam America! More FOO (friends of O)
"There is little no moral difference between Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn and McVeigh. Timothy McVeigh was simply a less charming individual and a more successful bomber. He received just punishment for his crime. Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn did not."
Chicago Magazine: An excellent magazine for Lear Jet Liberals. You would never know, from the advertisements for items of conspicuous consumption, trendy & expensive restaurants, etc., that their reader base would be interested in lefty politics, "power to the people,: but somehow their staff must be myopic to this kind of hypocrisy. Someone please explain to me why these excessively wealthy SOBs engage in these kinds of politics--just radical chic? (I could go on a tear about Chicago, how it is (in fact) about 20 years behind east coast and west coast in its stupidity (and thus the retro indulgence in radical chic), but I'll stifle it for now. I know there are dodos on the coasts, too, but for some reason they often seems a little more subtle or a little less self-conscious about their radicalism. Scuffing up a flag--WTF? Do something original, idiot.)
As far as this turd Ayers being in "education": Who's surprised? Why would the University of Illinois have any objection to him indoctrinating children? Also, he probably has a fan base among the teachers' unions: Does anyone remember that during the Viet Nam war there was a shortage of teachers, and that one could get a DRAFT DEFERMENT for undertaking teacher's training? (Thus all the teacher lookalikes ala Beavis and Butthead.)
How in the world does this scum manage to survive so long after despite being basically an evil person? No one with common sense had the guts to relegate this moron to the alley with the other crackpots living in cardboard boxes?
Charles only did it because the nefarious Baldwin IV, the ghostly Leper King and space pirate extraordinaire, promised him a gazillion woolongs if he criticized St. Billy. I mean really, why else would anyone criticize such a paragon?
/When you're rolling in woolongs like I am, you dont' need sarc. tags!
Ayers is a criminal who supports murder and Obama, birds of a feather,
sit on boards together! I figured it out, Barry won't wear the flag pin cause Ayers would walk on his chest!
Oh, I'm sure it has Che on it! Or, maybe, Charles Manson! Or maybe Pol Pot, or Chairman Mao!
Or maybe just a big picture of Mr. Ayers' own face, wearing the selfsame sneer it does in the photo at the top of this thread, as if to say, "I'll trample on your worthless flag all I look, you miserable American peasants!" Would that be cool, or what?
Anyhoo, we know it must be cool because the woman who wrote this silly ;uff-piece---er, insightful article---told us it's "funky" and it's "the peoples' backpack", so it absolutely must be the hight of cool!
/I'm a cool Kamel, with lots of woolongs! I laugh at sarc tags!
Time machines for the Moonbats? G-d forbid! They'd immediately try to rewrite history to make it all turn out "their" way, the "right" way----and you can just imagine what that would be like! We'd need Time Cops, to keep them from mucking everything up.
Or (from Cartoon Network, once upon a time) TIME SQUAD!
(Pray we never invent time travel. It will be a disaster.)
And, Bill Delasio, I agree; I've thought for a long time that what the Left wants, despite their avowed hate for the Middle Ages, and the Crusades, etc., is a feudal world, we're they're in control, and the working man knows his place---which, to them, is pulling his forelock humbly whenever the gentry pass by, working himself to death without a single complaint, paying his taxes and blindly following whatever faith his betters decide to shove down his throat. (with the Left, that will probably be worship of Mother Gaia.)
And for my part, I should think my fellow black Americans would KNOW BETTER...but no; they want to live in the past, too.
What we need is for NASA to get that lunar and Martian colony push started--along with private industry. When that happens, I'm off this planet. Who's with me!? :D
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WELL SAID ! Ayers can come to my house any day he wishes to try that S### in front of me. It will be his last attempt.... with all his parts in working order .
His freedom of expression will remain but his molecular order will be re-aligned as a result !
You're right. Too many Americans want to live in the past----when they don't know a bloody thing about it.
I think our country lost something precious when we scrapped the space program, stopped looking to the stars and announced that we were going to use the money from the space program right here on good ol' planet Earth, to help the poor. Well, the poor are still with us, and we've lost our dreams, and become a narcissistic, self-pitying victim society, longing for an idyllic past that never was, and indulging in silly dreams about "Mother Gaia", and the wonderfulness of nature, and how we're just a blot on our pristine planet. We've gone from wanting to travel to the stars to not even wanting to live on the world of our birth.
Time travel, logically, is only possibly in one direction- to the future.
(Otherwise the same matter would have to be in two places at once, and tempt imploding one another, or altering history to the point where they never existed to travel back in time in the first place. Paradox Lost.)
And such furture-oriented travel would be is irreversible, once achieved, so you'd be stuck in an unguessable tomorrow. (A meteor might have turned the planet to a Sixth Great Extinction wasteland, etc.)
Sci-fi stories would be somewhat limited if they stuck to this one-way theory, but the remaining possiblities would require more imagination than simply plunking Dr. Smarts down in ancient Egypt (fortuitously a scholar of the period and language) and letting him or her amaze the yokels (or, as in "Behold the Man", become what one sought).
Psychic time travel, however, is another matter (sic) entirely. (Psychometry, et al. give the mind free rein, although bodiless exploration wouldn't be as exciting as hunting brontosauruses in the primeval muck or mating with an Atlantean gal.)
I already chimed in, but my God--this really stuns me. It is NOT known, I follow this stuff and I did not know this. Thank you Charles.
Can you even freakin' imagine a Republican being the appointed, hand-picked Chairperson of "the McVeigh Foundation" and just get a pass on that by the media and the whole, entire Republican and Democrat party?
Roosevelt talked with Stalin at Potsdam to oppose an evil tyrant in Germany.
Rumsfeld shook Sadaam's hand to stop an evil tyrant in Iran.
The point was not to approve of everything these men did- it was to save innocent lives and decrease the chances that those innocents might be in danger in the future.
Show me the innocents saved by Ayers and his ilk.
Meanwhile, any State Patrolman will tell you that getting Americans to slow down and wear seatbelts would save more American lives every year than have been lost to brutal murderers in Iraq over the last five years, but various hysterics continue bleating about the "tragedy" in Iraq.
Sometimes I wonder if proportion is gained solely through personal tragedy- if what America needs to shake off defeatist and disruptive philosophies is another Great Depression, another Antietam.
I suspect we will find out one way or another the first time a terrorist destroys a major American city. My money is on thousands like Ayers ending their careers as "strange fruit", as the vast majority rediscovers American principles. Any faders on the bet?
The phenomenon of Limosine Liberals is a real one. Radical Chic is one manifestation, but there is another. Like Lenin, Mao, Castro, Chavez, Obama, and Hillary Clinton, there is a personality that claims materialistic privilege far beyond what their philosophy espouses, under the guise that their comfort allows them greater zeal in pursuit of the cause. This is narcisim, and is a psychological disorder.
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