This thread is not helping Michelle Obama's children!

The only poll I trust that which comes out after all the votes are tallied.

Note to Democrat Superdelegates:

Look up Hobson's Choice

Excellent. Time to work over Hillary.

Impressive.

You mean there is someone else running besides Obama?

re: #4 Honorary Yooper

...and even then

re: #6 Noam Sayin'

Excellent. Time to work over Hillary.

The New Republic (believe it or not) is on the job.

re: #8 retrotrucker

You mean there is someone else running besides Obama?

You'd never know it from the MSM coverage.

Of course, Hillary went on Fox as well, and more recently. Does the Daily Kos have an article out condeming her for it yet?

"The poll showed Hillary Clinton leading Obama 51 percent to 44 percent nationally among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independent voters"

saw this coming . . . demodogs want the wright situation to go away so badly. they should just pretend it never happened, or come up with some kind of conspiracy theory like the 9.11 truth people.

wright truth!

He can't win the general election anyway.

But shucks, I’m just a “typical white person”; one of those who “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations”. What do I know?

The television told me that this is an old story.

That we must move beyond this.

And it wouldn't stop telling me this all weekend.

I wonder what the Clinton campaign gave to get Wright to turn on a member of his 'flock'?

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

I thought it was Hillary v. Barak and McCain was the third party spoiler. Damn that pesky FOX news!

The damage is not that serious.
Capt. Smith.

The damage is not that serious.
B. Hussein.

re: #17 poteen

I wonder what the Clinton campaign gave to get Wright to turn on a member of his 'flock'?

Bill's last testicle?

re: #17 poteen

I wonder what the Clinton campaign gave to get Wright to turn on a member of his 'flock'?

A copy of Vince Foster's obit?

re: #16 Ben Hur

The television told me that this is an old story.

That we must move beyond this.

And it wouldn't stop telling me this all weekend.

I wasn't sure until Michelle Obama told me. Then I knew it was safe to move on and that I should've stopped worrying about it a while ago.

Obama's poll number with me is zero

The democrat party is in turmoil.

Obama would make an easier candidate for the Republicans to beat than Hillary Clinton.

The poll showed Hillary Clinton leading Obama 51 percent to 44 percent nationally among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independent voters, in contrast to a CBS News/New York Times survey released on Sunday that had Obama leading Clinton by 12 points.

Obviously, half of the Democrats and Democratic-leaning independent voters are racist; the other half are sexist.

/Nuance: It's what's for dinner!

Hillary's poll is rising!

(ewwwww)

Dear Obama,
You can't fool all of the people some of the time. I hope they don't go back to lovin' on Obama.

/I can't believe post #1 uttered first and got away with it.

Spike Lee thinks someone is paying Wright to keep speaking.

"Donating to the chuch building fund" I think he said.

No War for Turmoil!

Operation Chaos appears to be working (in conjunction with Rev. Wrong's on-air rants)!

Got popcorn? Gonna be a hot time in the old town tonight (Denver...).

JAFLW

What about all the other iffy people he keeps company with?

Wirght didnt damage Obama as much as Obama damaged Wright by bring his slime out into the public's eyes.

Obama hurt himself by supporting this garbage and thinking no one would find out or care even if they did.

Damaged? I think that's overstating the case. The polls show narrowing, but Obama still has enough support to carry him into the convention with enough support to potentially win the nomination.

Most people aren't paying attention to the political chatter, despite the fact of the seriousness of the issues involved. Sometimes I think we misread the political situation because we're so plugged into every news story that rolls across the wires. It's about playing and managing expectations.

Still, the whole Wright mess should have destroyed Obama's chances, but it hasn't done so - despite a month of this dragging on. And it will continue to drag out as Obama's choice of characters to associate with remains a story. If it hasn't eliminated him as a candidate until now, I doubt that anything on this front between now and election day will do so unless there is a story so bad about Wright and Obama that it would have the capacity to shake the election to the core.

re: #25 Ojoe

Obama's poll number with me is zero

LOL

re: #25 Ojoe

Obama's poll number with me is zero

From me it's a one.
_oo1_oo

'Bama's been riding dirty and that ride is near an end

I'm shocked the NYT/SeeBS poll was bogus.

re: #31 Ben Hur

It is lucibello paying IMHO

Obama Damaged by Rev. Wright

Thats kinda like saying you were damaged by your reflection in the mirror.

I would like a serious answer to this question: How has Obama managed to get so far (and in fact may yet be the Dem nominee for POTUS) without having laid out even ONE specific plan for how he's going to effect the CHANGE he keeps talking about - and no, I don't think "We'll talk to Iran" is a specific plan-? Anyone?

re: #21 jcm

The damage is not that serious.
Capt. Smith.

The damage is not that serious.
B. Hussein.

"There are no American Forces in Baghdad!"
Baghdad Bob

(snicker)

JAFLW

in contrast to a CBS News/New York Times survey

...which is only good for telling you what CBS/NYT wants you to think, as opposed to what people are actually thinking.

You think the electorate has finally found out that the post-racial candidate is a member of a blatantly racist church? The irony meter has been completely destroyed by the democratic primary.

re: #42 realwest

Because of a big supply of fools in this country

So, to sum up: Obama was number one.

Now he's just number 2...

/You'll always be number 2 to me, Barry

re: #35 lawhawk

Damaged? I think that's overstating the case. The polls show narrowing, but Obama still has enough support to carry him into the convention with enough support to potentially win the nomination.

Most people aren't paying attention to the political chatter, despite the fact of the seriousness of the issues involved. Sometimes I think we misread the political situation because we're so plugged into every news story that rolls across the wires. It's about playing and managing expectations.

Still, the whole Wright mess should have destroyed Obama's chances, but it hasn't done so - despite a month of this dragging on. And it will continue to drag out as Obama's choice of characters to associate with remains a story. If it hasn't eliminated him as a candidate until now, I doubt that anything on this front between now and election day will do so unless there is a story so bad about Wright and Obama that it would have the capacity to shake the election to the core.

You mean the fact that Wright did family counseling for a couple, and then decided to "Ride Dirty" with her was not bad enough?

re: #42 realwest

I would like a serious answer to this question: How has Obama managed to get so far (and in fact may yet be the Dem nominee for POTUS) without having laid out even ONE specific plan for how he's going to effect the CHANGE he keeps talking about - and no, I don't think "We'll talk to Iran" is a specific plan-? Anyone?

Serious answer: He aligned his image with a large anti-Bush sentiment.

re: #30 Lively

Dear Obama,
You can't fool all of the people some of the time. I hope they don't go back to lovin' on Obama.

/I can't believe post #1 uttered first and got away with it.

...that's because it was nuanced.

JAFLW

re: #19 retrotrucker

I thought it was Hillary v. Barak and McCain was the third party spoiler. Damn that pesky FOX news!

Jokes on you. All three of them are from the same party.

re: #37 bosforus

Digital means finger

re: #42 realwest

I would like a serious answer to this question: How has Obama managed to get so far (and in fact may yet be the Dem nominee for POTUS) without having laid out even ONE specific plan for how he's going to effect the CHANGE he keeps talking about - and no, I don't think "We'll talk to Iran" is a specific plan-? Anyone?

Who needs a plan. It's about hope and change. /drink the kool aid baby!

re: #42 realwest

I would like a serious answer to this question: How has Obama managed to get so far (and in fact may yet be the Dem nominee for POTUS) without having laid out even ONE specific plan for how he's going to effect the CHANGE he keeps talking about - and no, I don't think "We'll talk to Iran" is a specific plan-? Anyone?

A sycophantic media.

Looks like his chickens are coming home to roost.

re: #19 retrotrucker

It wouldn't be a bad time for a true third party run.
Republicans, to a large extent, aren't happy with McCain and the democrats are impaled on their politically correct donkey dicks.
The conditions are as good as they can get.

I'd like to see Wright write a book (ghost writer, of course) and go on a tour before this November and make lots of money.

/strike while the iron is hot

re: #2 Occasional Reader

This thread is not helping Michelle Obama's children!

michelle obama is not helping michelle obama's children.

Wow, not one "racially charged" in the whole article.

About anything.

re: #59 Lively

I'd like to see Wright write a book (ghost writer, of course) and go on a tour before this November and make lots of money.

/strike while the iron is hot

According to rumors, that is the plan.

re: #53 Ojoe

Digital means finger

Was there a binary joke in there that I didn't get?

re: #42 realwest

Facts and plans are meaningless to dems. It's all about feelings. And Hope. And Change!

Stop, stop! Michelle Obama said that it is time to meve on.
Wait, the polls did.
Michelle, are you proud of your country now?

re: #23 jamgarr

A copy of Vince Foster's obit?

LOL! Or the autopsy report. Let Wright figure out how someone commits suicide shooting themselves in the back of the head...

Not damaged badly enough yet. And I suspect that in the end it might be the wifey who does him in.

re: #48 Nevergiveup

Heh, we know that Wright isn't a paragon of virtue - that only adds to it, but it's not going to drive the death knell into the Obama campaign.

re: #40 Ojoe

It is lucibello paying IMHO

Lucibello?

Who is that?

Satan?

rove - that cancer on the organism that is american democracy.

Does this mean we allowed to believe our own ears now?

I'm wondering if Barack and Michelle are still finally proud of their country. Where's my violin. The extra tiny one...

I still think this quote is damn funny:

"We in Denmark cannot figure out why you Americans are even bothering to hold an election.

On one side, you have a bitch who is a lawyer, married to a lawyer, and a lawyer who is married to a bitch who is a lawyer.

On the other side, you have a true war hero married to a woman with a huge chest who owns a beer distributorship.

Is there a contest here?"

re: #42 realwest

I would like a serious answer to this question: How has Obama managed to get so far (and in fact may yet be the Dem nominee for POTUS) without having laid out even ONE specific plan for how he's going to effect the CHANGE he keeps talking about - and no, I don't think "We'll talk to Iran" is a specific plan-? Anyone?

No candidate has proposed specifics.

Polls are a distraction to Michelle's children.

re: #62 Ben Hur

Wow, not one "racially charged" in the whole article.

About anything.

Why don't we ever hear about people being sexually charged?

re: #68 galloping granny

That's certainly possible, though if Wright does his speaking tour in October/November as planned, he could be a major distraction if Obama is on the ticket.

You go grrrlll!
I'd never vote for Shrillary, but like the man said, if she gave obambi one of her balls they'd both end up with two. It would be lovely to see Barry Hussein lose at any stage of the race and hear a candid assessment from the obamalamadingos why he lost- honky mf'er racism most likely in the eyes, Hillary lies or VRWC.

re: #64 bosforus
Highway 101 is Binary Highway 5

(Completely off topic)

re: #16 Ben Hur

The television told me that this is an old story.

That we must move beyond this.

And it wouldn't stop telling me this all weekend.

Because Michelle thinks it is bad for her children!

re: #74 Racer X

Only in America LOL.

re: #70 Ben Hur

Yes, in Italian.

re: #65 Racer X

Facts and plans are meaningless to dems. It's all about feelings. And Hope. And Change!

well theie "hope" is gonna be, "Hope he doesn't take away all of my freedoms" and their "Change" is gonna be changing their party insignia to the hammer and sickle if he's elected...

re: #67 paxnhymn

LOL! Or the autopsy report. Let Wright figure out how someone commits suicide shooting themselves in the back of the head...

...And then transporting their own body, wrapped into a carpet, to a park...

Obamaglia's a pimp; he never coulda outfought Santino. But I didn't know until this day, it was Hillarini all along.

/just kidding. Sometimes a Tatagglia is just a Tatagglia

re: #69 lawhawk

Heh, we know that Wright isn't a paragon of virtue - that only adds to it, but it's not going to drive the death knell into the Obama campaign.

I have a hunch that the Wright story will play on till election day. It will be drip drip, never a knock out punch, but cumulatively enough to be mightily damaging in the end. At least that is what I hope!

Off Topic Dog Question (well sort of OT)

Do any lizards know if Shih Tzus have a funky odor about them that say, wonderful old Cocker Spaniels do not have? Baths don't help either...

re: #77 JamesTKirk

Why don't we ever hear about people being sexually charged?

With the Return Of Bill, we will.

re: #21 jcm

The damage is not that serious.
Capt. Smith.

The damage is not that serious.
B. Hussein.

There are no tanks in Bagdad! That is a lie from the Western media.
Bagdad Bob

Those won't condemn the pastor are demented elitists.

Lawhawk makes a good point - it's more than a little disturbing that these associations with haters, terrorists, and extremists haven't already destroyed Obama's chances.

This is the presidency we're talking about, arguably the most important job in the entire world. What does it say about America that a significant number of people don't care about this stuff? How can all those people think it's a good idea to elect someone with these kinds of friends?

Bad craziness loose in the nation.

BBL.

Yes. That's it. Just "BBL."

That's all I'm allowed.

:(

As I (and many other people) predicted, this Wright episode is the end of Obama's presidential aspirations. He's finito.

Now, let's move on to the next -- and more imporant -- stage: arguing over who gets credit!

The MSM is saying that "the Hillary campaign" dug up the Wright videos, but we all know that's patently untrue -- everyone here was talking about Wright MONTHS before the Hillary campaign picked it up.

I think I first heard about Rev. Wright right here in the LGF comments section.

Which leads us to this question: Who first posted something about Rev. Wright here? And where did that person find out about it? And when and where was the very first blog post on any blog about him?

Inquiring minds want to know, because that person will go down in history!

I'm betting there is a lot of Voter's remorse in those early primary states now

re: #90 Timbre

Off Topic Dog Question (well sort of OT)

Do any lizards know if Shih Tzus have a funky odor about them that say, wonderful old Cocker Spaniels do not have? Baths don't help either...

YES! My advice- get used to it.

osama has lost his swagger. he's wounded. the rev wright's betrayal has hurt osama personally and professionally. it's easy to see why he wants to be alone w/ his waffle.

re: #94 Charles

What does it say about America that a significant number of people don't care about this stuff?

It says that Americans need to see more of the world to realize how good we've got it.

re: #94 Charles

Lawhawk makes a good point - it's more than a little disturbing that these associations with haters, terrorists, and extremists haven't already destroyed Obama's chances.

This is the presidency we're talking about, arguably the most important job in the entire world. What does it say about America that a significant number of people don't care about this stuff? How can all those people think it's a good idea to elect someone with these kinds of friends?

Bad craziness loose in the nation.

Obama has gotten away with SO much that "conspiracy theory" seems quite nearly a - or maybe the - logical explanation.

re: #95 Ben Hur

BBL.

Yes. That's it. Just "BBL."

That's all I'm allowed.

:(

Okay, okay... Adriana Lima... there, you are free.

re: #96 zombie

As I (and many other people) predicted, this Wright episode is the end of Obama's presidential aspirations. He's finito.

Now, let's move on to the next -- and more imporant -- stage: arguing over who gets credit!

The MSM is saying that "the Hillary campaign" dug up the Wright videos, but we all know that's patently untrue -- everyone here was talking about Wright MONTHS before the Hillary campaign picked it up.

I think I first heard about Rev. Wright right here in the LGF comments section.

Which leads us to this question: Who first posted something about Rev. Wright here? And where did that person find out about it? And when and where was the very first blog post on any blog about him?

Inquiring minds want to know, because that person will go down in history!

I have no idea how to search for that.

Methinks that Ayres and Wright are the tip of the iceberg. What other nasty little secrets does "the holy one" conceal?

re: #80 Ojoe

moving on then...

re: #94 Charles

Lawhawk makes a good point - it's more than a little disturbing that these associations with haters, terrorists, and extremists haven't already destroyed Obama's chances.

This is the presidency we're talking about, arguably the most important job in the entire world. What does it say about America that a significant number of people don't care about this stuff? How can all those people think it's a good idea to elect someone with these kinds of friends?

Bad craziness loose in the nation.

I've got one phrase for you: Yellow Dog Democrats. They'd even vote for a yellow dog, if that's who the Democrats put up as the nominee.

As for independents, Republicans and conservatives: Obama won't get a single vote from them if he gets to nomination.

re: #46 Ojoe Ah but if that were true, wouldn't Ron Paul have done better in the Primaries?
I think it's a combination of factors (remember this is the Dem nominatin we're talking about) a) he can count on 90+% of the Black Vote b) a lot of White Dem's feel "guilty" for not voting for a Black Man and c) the Clintons have seriously undermined Hillary's otherwise "count on 'em" base of White Women d) the MSM who have given Obama a pass until recently and e) SO Many Prominent Dems (Kennedy, Kerry, Dodd, et. al.) have come out to openly support Obama that they are now scared to death of what will happen to them if Hillary is elected POTUS.

re: #98 Sharmuta

Thanks for the warning. Maybe if I put some garlic in his food, he'll start smelling like, garlic.

Don't worry, the left will try to equate John Hagee to Wright. They truly see no difference. Morons.

re: #94 Charles

Yes, and nothing good can come of it.

re: #27 Ringo the Gringo

Obama would make an easier candidate for the Republicans to beat than Hillary Clinton.

Not with the Obamaniacs...

re: #94 Charles

arguably the most important job in the entire world.

therein lies the crux of it Charles. Maybe the office has been made such a mockery of by the (dare I say it) last 3 occupants that it is now a laughing stock to the world and some of us as well. I will admit I always called him "President" whatever, until Bubba got in to office (not that I liked Bush 41 any better). Since the days of the Gipper that image of leadership has been tarnished...we all need to face that...sad but true...

re: #107 zombie

As for independents, Republicans and conservatives: Obama won't get a single vote from them if he gets to nomination.

He will from a significant number of independents; not from the other two.

But I am also starting to think the smart money is no longer on Obama.

Sunday: SeeBS poll: Obama by 12.
Monday: Gallup poll : Clinton by 7

My B.S. meter is pegged. Hard to believe there's THAT much swing on one day.

re: #101 galloping granny

Obama has gotten away with SO much that "conspiracy theory" seems quite nearly a - or maybe the - logical explanation.

Speaking of conspiracy theories? Juding by the latest poll results, methinks Rev Wright is undercover whitey.

re: #110 Racer X

Don't worry, the left will try to equate John Hagee to Wright. They truly see no difference. Morons.

Oh, they're already trying to push that big time

re: #110 Racer X

Don't worry, the left will try to equate John Hagee to Wright. They truly see no difference. Morons.

Yeah, they do. But the fact that they're both reverends/pastors is all they need to sink their teeth into. They won't compare the two beyond that and if you try to explain the distinction they'll roll their eyes at you and say 'whatever'.

re: #107 zombie

I've got one phrase for you: Yellow Dog Democrats. They'd even vote for a yellow dog, if that's who the Democrats put up as the nominee.

As for independents, Republicans and conservatives: Obama won't get a single vote from them if he gets to nomination.

i'm greatly encouraged because the most liberal moonbat friend i have, said yesterday, she could never vote for obama and it was because if he could pick wright how could he pick a responsible cabinet.

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm betting there is a lot of Voter's remorse in those early primary states now

Wouldn't ya think? If moonbat relatives of mine are an idication that is not necessarily the case.
They think that it some grand conspiracy to derail the US from our true destiny.
But those are true believers. I have to believe that you are right about a lot of Independents.

re: #96 zombie

As I (and many other people) predicted, this Wright episode is the end of Obama's presidential aspirations. He's finito.

Now, let's move on to the next -- and more imporant -- stage: arguing over who gets credit!

The MSM is saying that "the Hillary campaign" dug up the Wright videos, but we all know that's patently untrue -- everyone here was talking about Wright MONTHS before the Hillary campaign picked it up.

I think I first heard about Rev. Wright right here in the LGF comments section.

Which leads us to this question: Who first posted something about Rev. Wright here? And where did that person find out about it? And when and where was the very first blog post on any blog about him?

Inquiring minds want to know, because that person will go down in history!

What did we know, and when did we know it!

Heh.

JAFLW

I believe this is the first LGF post on this subject, from February of last year:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #122 taxfreekiller

Well, as the Democrats are lead by full blown cowards, fakes and frauds,how the hell are they going to get any one to fight at the convention, water board one another. or what?

LOL!

re: #122 taxfreekiller

Well, as the Democrats are lead by full blown cowards, fakes and frauds,how the hell are they going to get any one to fight at the convention, water board one another. or what?

It's in Denver. They could try snowboarding.

I missed someone being deleted?

I blame congress.

re: #54 lawhawk

re: #56 JammieWearingFool

re: #94 Charles

While I don't disagree with you guys, I think my #108 is sorta right on target. Not trying to be the least little bit funny either.

re: #103 taxfreekiller

Lots of bad crazies getting way long in the tooth.

Lt. Kerry, Kennedy, the Clintons, Harry Reid, hell even frozen over Al Gore is fat and heart attack ready, you go father time, tick these tick's way.

The Ticktockman! He's a-comin' fer ya! Ya can't run, can't hide!

JAFLW

re: #123 Charles

If it wasn't so disturbing I'd say it's funny how long it took for the general population to consider the points made in that thread.

re: #125 The Other Les

It's in Denver. They could try snowboarding

Heh.

Barry might also want to brush up on the lyrics to "Things to do in Denver When Your (Nomination's) Dead"

re: #129 bosforus

If it wasn't so disturbing I'd say it's funny how long it took for the general population to consider the points made in that thread.

That's because the MSM wasn't in the business of reporting it.

re: #60 nyc redneck,
Now, come on, you know how hard it is to raise kids on only a million five income. Poor, poor Michelle has to sacrifice mightly to give her kids their dance lessons.

You should be paying for them. After all, you aren't one of the important people. You are a downright mean American. Shame on you.

re: #132 Watcher

That's because the MSM wasn't in the business of reporting it.

Just trying to refute/ignore it.

re: #130 ploome hineni
With all due respect (and we may actually be saying the same thing) all THESE Democrats want to do is WIN and have a handy explanation if they lose the POTUS: Racism.

re: #108 realwest

I think your strongest point is the point about the msm giving obama a pass until this point. Most people don't pay attention to the news like hard-core politicos do. We Lizards are aware of this because we're paying attention, and the koslings, et al- they don't care...well- some are beginning to. But for the most part, people are not going to pay attention until after the conventions. If it's not getting coverage in the msm, they're not aware of it. Too much of the electorate is just not informed these days.

re: #130 ploome hineni

Because they care not not one wit about the United States of America, only power and money. They want the White House back so bad, they don't care what the ramifications would be to this country or the world.

re: #134 LanceKates

Just trying to refute/ignore it.

Doing their best at being unfair and unbalanced.

re: #123 Charles

I believe this is the first LGF post on this subject, from February of last year:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Democrat primary voters evidently don't pay attention to LGF. Either that or they are OK with Obama's radicalism.

re: #101 galloping granny

Obama has gotten away with SO much that "conspiracy theory" seems quite nearly a - or maybe the - logical explanation.

Distributed conspiracy.
So many people working toward a common end it certainly appears so. Modus operandi for the left for years. Capture "true believers" at an early age, then push them into career paths like teaching, and religious ministry. Remember Michelles, don't get jobs, do something for the community. She's not talking good work, she's talking train a new generation of Gramscian Whores.

In a sense it is a conspiracy, a lot of individuals working toward a common goal. However there is no central command giving marching orders.

re: #90 Timbre

Off Topic Dog Question (well sort of OT)

Do any lizards know if Shih Tzus have a funky odor about them that say, wonderful old Cocker Spaniels do not have? Baths don't help either...

I had Shih Tzu for quite a few years until he died last month...

Try Buddy's shampoo for dogs. It has eucalyptus oil and other essential oils that make them smell great!

re: #139 zmdavid

Democrat primary voters evidently don't pay attention to LGF. Either that or they are OK with Obama's radicalism.

Oh they pay attention to what is said here all right. So we can only conclude they agree with Obama!

Obama's not worried, the MSM still has time to "fix" things.

re: #136 Sharmuta Well that's true, but I think it's always been true that only full blown politicos and bloggers like Charles and [shudder] Kos have been paying attention in the primary season.
It also has a LOT to do, I think, with the fact that we do not have an incumbent POTUS running for re-election.

re: #96 zombie

The MSM is saying that "the Hillary campaign" dug up the Wright videos, but we all know that's patently untrue -- everyone here was talking about Wright MONTHS before the Hillary campaign picked it up.

I think I first heard about Rev. Wright right here in the LGF comments section.

We were talking about the Black Supremacist stuff on Rev Wright's/Obama's church website back in Spring of '07.

re: #138 Watcher

Doing their best at being unfair and unbalanced.

Wouldn't it be great if there was a conservative news station?

Granted, they'd only have, like, 5 employees....

But still.

re: #130 ploome hineni

naw...Ploome. It's not depressing,it's a sure thing for McCain. There is no way in hell a leftist / Marxist like Obama can pull himself towards the center after Denver, not enough time and people have more resources to see through the BS. I'm telling you, Obama's unelectable...he's gonna be the black George McGovern...I think Shrillary is counting on it!

re: #137 Nevergiveup

Because they care not not one wit about the United States of America, only power and money. They want the White House back so bad, they don't care what the ramifications would be to this country or the world.

Yep...you got it.

re: #132 Watcher

That's because the MSM wasn't in the business of reporting it.

Yup. Asking viewers to think ideologically isn't exactly one of the MSM's strengths. The only way to get that to happen is for someone (Hannity in this case) to make a raucous about it and then the MSM will only report that 'talk radio' is talking about it and then, if you're lucky, they'll actually address the ideology.

Did you see Obama at the Jefferson/jackson Dinner, last night?
If he is the greatest orator since Cicero, I don't see it.
The point is he paints such a negative , miserable picture of America that noone would care to live here.
That is why people are sneaking into other counties to get out of here.

re: #135 realwest

With all due respect (and we may actually be saying the same thing) all THESE Democrats want to do is WIN and have a handy explanation if they lose the POTUS: Racism.

Unfortunately that is a valid point. McCain would do well to pick a well qualified black person as his VP. If not just to placate those who will surely scream racism.

I would be for it though - for the good of America.

re: #107 zombie

Ah yes, but what will the Blue Dog democrats do? I'm assuming that they're the Reagan dems.

And what effect will Ron Paul's claim that Obama is the best candidate vis a vis getting out of Iraq have on his merry band of Paultards? Would luap nor consider a third party run or does he fear losing his house seat?

re: #96 zombie

Much, much too soon to count chickens (roosting or not). Obama has momentum now; he WILL be the Democratic candidate.

re: #150 bosforus

Yeah, but then all they do is blame it on Rush Limbaugh and the sheep forget about it.

re: #151 opnion

Did you see Obama at the Jefferson/jackson Dinner, last night?
If he is the greatest orator since Cicero, I don't see it.
The point is he paints such a negative , miserable picture of America that noone would care to live here.
That is why people are sneaking into other counties to get out of here.

He is awful in uncontrolled settings.

re: #152 Racer X

JC Watts!

11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System

sieg heil.

Oh wait, it actually said Black leadership and Black Value System, so the church is not racist at all.

/

re: #151 opnion You wouldn't perhaps be suggesting that Obama's message is close to Jimmy Carter's "Malaise" speeches, would you?!

Lizards have been pounding the Rev. Wright drum for well over a year now. I always crack up when Sean Hannity takes credit for breaking the story... heh.

I keep missing the opportunity to bring this up. The La Porte Church of Christ, Colorado, aka Scriptures for America, is an all-white, racist, anti-Semite, Christian-Identity outfit led by "Pastor" Peter J. Peters, who seems to be the caucasian equivalent of Jermiah Wright.

re: #148 paxnhymn

{pax} mah man....

That picture of Billy Ayers standing on the flag will make a great ad for McCain. And you just know there is more where that came from....

re: #160 NoSubmission

Lizards have been pounding the Rev. Wright drum for well over a year now. I always crack up when Sean Hannity takes credit for breaking the story... heh.

Give him a break. He does have a larger audience than ours and he is on our side.

re: #157 LanceKates

JC Watts!

Michael Steele!
Walter Williams!

re: #94 Charles

Lawhawk makes a good point - it's more than a little disturbing that these associations with haters, terrorists, and extremists haven't already destroyed Obama's chances.

This is the presidency we're talking about, arguably the most important job in the entire world. What does it say about America that a significant number of people don't care about this stuff? How can all those people think it's a good idea to elect someone with these kinds of friends?

Bad craziness loose in the nation.

20% of this nation suffer with a serious form of BDS and believe they must take back control of the WH at absolutely ANY cost. The other 20% sheeple along singing the Barry praise theme of Change.

re: #152 Racer X

Unfortunately that is a valid point. McCain would do well to pick a well qualified black person as his VP. If not just to placate those who will surely scream racism.

I would be for it though - for the good of America.

Picking a candidate for VP based on his race would be racism, not fighting it, and that is never good for America or anywhere.

re: #147 LanceKates

Wouldn't it be great if there was a conservative news station?

Granted, they'd only have, like, 5 employees....

But still.

Conservative talk radio has been pushing the story for quite a while, but until it was, reluctantly, picked up by the vast left-wing media, it couldn't make it to the masses.

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re: #155 LanceKates

Yeah, but then all they do is blame it on Rush Limbaugh and the sheep forget about it.

It's a vicious circle.

At this point, I think BHO is still going to get the nomination. After Labor Day, when folks start paying attention, all of this information will be rediscovered. The Obama campaign will try to spin it as old news, no one cares. But people will care, and McCain will take it.

Option 2, less likely, is Hillary gets the nomination on the umpteenth ballot at the convention. Obama, who has not accepted federal campaign funds, still has a ton of money and runs as an independent. They continue to claw each others' eyes out until November, and McCain takes it.

Option 3, my worst nightmare, is that Obama gets the nomination, and people continue to support him. He actually wins the general and the country continues to go to hell in a handbasket.

re: #161 Timbre

I keep missing the opportunity to bring this up. The La Porte Church of Christ, Colorado, aka Scriptures for America, is an all-white, racist, anti-Semite, Christian-Identity outfit led by "Pastor" Peter J. Peters, who seems to be the caucasian equivalent of Jermiah Wright.

OK, and its relationship to the Presidental elections is...

re: #159 realwest,

And that's the way he wants to start his Presidency. He'll gift America with a loss in the WoT and terrorism in our streets, and he'll call it chickens...coming home...to roost.

I don't know if he is incompetant or downright malevolent, but Obama is a frightening individual.

Shocked! Shocked! I am shocked that CBS/LA Times show Obama winning. No skew in that poll whatsoever...

re: #164 Nevergiveup

Give him a break. He does have a larger audience than ours and he is on our side.

Then he should give credit where credit is due..

re: #157 LanceKates

JC Watts!

Michael Steele!
Walter Williams!

Marcellus Wallace!

re: #94 Charles

Beyond Obama, I would ask why is the Democratic party still around? It shouldn't be after November.

re: #123 Charles

I believe this is the first LGF post on this subject, from February of last year:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Awhile back, I posted a link to Linkviewer about Ayers before he became a big issue...I did a quick search because someone mentioned how bad he was and so I took a look around and was shocked that Obama would even link up with him! And of course that he would be working for him at all!

re: #154 joncelli

Much, much too soon to count chickens (roosting or not). Obama has momentum now; he WILL be the Democratic candidate.

I think so too. They are afraid to deny him

re: #160 NoSubmission

I beleive Hannity was the first to break the Rev. Wright story on television in March 2007.

re: #123 Charles

I believe this is the first LGF post on this subject, from February of last year:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I copied Trinity's "The Black Value System" pages on 1-31-2007. So it must have come initially from somewhere else. (sorry)

re: #178 Occasional Reader

Marcellus Wallace!

Does Marcellus Wallace look like a Veep to you?

re: #162 loppyd I think one of the problems we face is that I don't think McCain is gonna FIGHT for the election. He's not gonna have a photo of Obama sans flag pin juxtapositioned with Ayers standing on an American Flag or anything remotely like it.
McCain wants a debate on the issues and since NONE of the Dems have a damn clue about how to resolve the true issues of the day, he's never gonna get THAT debate.
I am sorely afraid that McCain will be another Bob Dole - a wounded, decorated, person who has spent most of his adult life serving this nation and "above" the fray of real political combat.

re: #177 NoSubmission

Then he should give credit where credit is due..

No problem with that, and lets hammer him>AFTER the election in november.

re: #173 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Maybe not this election. Who thought of Jeremiah Wright and the election of 2008 20 years ago? I'm just letting people know.

re: #162 loppyd

{pax} mah man....

That picture of Billy Ayers standing on the flag will make a great ad for McCain. And you just know there is more where that came from....

{lops} yeah..stick a fork in him..they know it..it's gonna be hell in Denver because they KNOW he's unelectable but if they (Dhimmi power brokers) say anything the dreaded "R" word flies about on the convention floor..

damned if they do, damned if they don't...game over...RINO in office

/I can hardly contain my excitement.

re: #184 JamesTKirk

Does Marcellus Wallace look like a Veep to you?

"What?"

SAY "WHAT" AGAIN!

re: #160 NoSubmission

Lizards have been pounding the Rev. Wright drum for well over a year now. I always crack up when Sean Hannity takes credit for breaking the story... heh.

Dan Rather said he wants to be the one to break the story.

re: #163 taxfreekiller

First, the great spirit, thinking,

First, I must have truth,

So, the truth went before all.

Things have not changed,

Even false change will not , get the truth behind .

Go and lie no more Democrats and msm hacks.

TFK you might as well ask a duck to stop crapping in the pond.

re: #150 bosforus

Yup. Asking viewers to think ideologically isn't exactly one of the MSM's strengths. The only way to get that to happen is for someone (Hannity in this case) to make a raucous about it and then the MSM will only report that 'talk radio' is talking about it and then, if you're lucky, they'll actually address the ideology.

That's what the talk radio has been doing. I usually listen to Hannity and Levin while on my way home (I have a long drive). They were the first ones to talk about Ayres, Wright and many other issues.

re: #161 Timbre

I keep missing the opportunity to bring this up. The La Porte Church of Christ, Colorado, aka Scriptures for America, is an all-white, racist, anti-Semite, Christian-Identity outfit led by "Pastor" Peter J. Peters, who seems to be the caucasian equivalent of Jermiah Wright.

Expect any media attention to either trash him WORSE than they treat wright, or hold him up as an example of how wright really isn't that bad by comparison.

Commencement address...
P.J. O'Rourke : Fairness, idealism and other atrocities

I'm not going to "pass the wisdom of one generation down to the next." I'm a member of the 1960s generation. We didn't have any wisdom.

We were the moron generation. We were the generation that believed we could stop the Vietnam War by growing our hair long and dressing like circus clowns. We believed drugs would change everything -- which they did, for John Belushi. We believed in free love. Yes, the love was free, but we paid a high price for the sex.

My generation spoiled everything for you. It has always been the special prerogative of young people to look and act weird and shock grown-ups. But my generation exhausted the Earth's resources of the weird. Weird clothes -- we wore them. Weird beards -- we grew them. Weird words and phrases -- we said them. So, when it came your turn to be original and look and act weird, all you had left was to tattoo your faces and pierce your tongues. Ouch. That must have hurt. I apologize.

Read the whole thing. Spot on!

re: #165 jcm

Michael Steele!
Walter Williams!

Zell Miller!

JAFLW

re: #126 LanceKates

I missed someone being deleted?

Four comments, and counting.

re: #170 NoSubmission

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Did you just get that email too? I was just about to post that.

Wait a minute. I thought Michele said that people did not want to talk about Jeremiah? How are these polls helping her children?

I'm off for some arugula.

Imagine if the public actually knew both dem candidates (and the Rupublican me-too-er(s)).

Power-hungry, altruist-spouting, I'm-your-savior, the economy can be controlled by government force, GOVERNEMENT IS THE ANSWER, etc etc etc... all b.s.

Stand up, INDIVIDUAL Americans, and tell the politicians to protect your INDIVIDUAL rights- then stay the hell out of our lives. Politicians are disgusting, repugnant people. Yes, I mean that, in every sense of those words. In our era- they all suck.

Blah...

re: #145 realwest

We used to have a better informed citizenry, but then again, we used to have a press that was less biased, too. And this goes far back in American political history. We used to have a press that told us the news. Now we've gotten to a point where thankfully we have blogs, because they're doing the job the press used to do. However, that still doesn't change the fact that the electorate isn't paying attention- they just don't care. It's not American Idol, it's not Brangelina- they don't care. We don't teach civics, we don't teach critical thinking- we have a gap in the electorate of people who are only voting on superficial issues and feel good policy. Thus we have "Hope!" and "Change!" Very sad....

re: #197 Ward Cleaver

Did you just get that email too? I was just about to post that.

Yep. I'm a long-time subscriber. Sorry to beat you to it, friend. Kuku and Fufu. I'm dying here... LOL

re: #193 LanceKates

Expect any media attention to either trash him WORSE than they treat wright, or hold him up as an example of how wright really isn't that bad by comparison.

I think they are going to use Pastor John Hagee, of whom McCain sought his endorsement.

re: #192 Watcher

I listen to WMAL in DC online at work. Rush, Hannity, and Levin. Fun stuff. First time I ever heard Levin I laughed nonstop for about an hour due to his loud rants.

re: #199 Occasional Reader

I'm off for some arugula.

It's bitter, don't cling.

re: #168 Silhouette

Picking a candidate for VP based on his race would be racism, not fighting it, and that is never good for America or anywhere.

I understand that - and you are right - to an extent. As I said - "well qualified". The point is absolutely political - not so much racial. There are many well qualified black VP candidates.

Think about how things are going to be when McCain wins in November. You think the dems bitched about Bush stealing an election? Cakewalk compared to the dems and blacks protesting Hillary sabotaging Obama, and giving the election to McCain.

re: #197 Ward Cleaver

Did you just get that email too? I was just about to post that.

Yeah, but Condi still thinks the biggest threat to the "peace process" are a few Jewish builders with some hammers and nails on the West Bank?

re: #167 unrealizedviewpoint

Looking like a repeat of '68 in Denver this year. I think the media is in love with Obama and will be hesitant in rehashing old news like Wright, Ayers, Dohrn and Rezko by the time the conventions roll along.
Or the spin will be pro-hope! and change! trumping past associations.
A certain number of people will stick with B. Hussein no matter what and, as Zombie pointed out, the yellow dog dems will vote for whomever is on the ticket.

re: #169 Watcher

Conservative talk radio has been pushing the story for quite a while, but until it was, reluctantly, picked up by the vast left-wing media, it couldn't make it to the masses.

that's because only stiff and uptight bafoons like us listen to talk radio.

(Excluding NPR which is listened to by tree-hugging hippies and Air America which is listened to by ..... I don't know, but SOMEONE has to be listening by sheer chance.)

The majority of the population listens to top 40 pop/rock/crap filled with no-talent hacks who have sex appeal.

Except Neil Diamond.

Neil Diamond is great.

People who trash Neil Diamond ought to be audited by the IRS for a decade.

Or abducted by aliens and subject to probes.

re: #133 Iron Fist

,
Now, come on, you know how hard it is to raise kids on only a million five income. Poor, poor Michelle has to sacrifice mightly to give her kids their dance lessons.

You should be paying for them. After all, you aren't one of the important people. You are a downright mean American. Shame on you.

well, ok, then, i'll just have to send her a check. and a fruit basket. ;)

re: #208 Nevergiveup

Yeah, but Condi still thinks the biggest threat to the "peace process" are a few Jewish builders with some hammers and nails on the West Bank?

One Jewish carpenter changed the world 2000 years ago. Never doubt the power of Jewish carpenters.

re: #184 JamesTKirk

Does Marcellus Wallace look like a Veep to you?

"What?"

BANG!

re: #202 NoSubmission

Yep. I'm a long-time subscriber. Sorry to beat you to it, friend. Kuku and Fufu. I'm dying here... LOL

How do they even come up with these names?

re: #178 Occasional Reader

Marcellus Wallace!

LOL!

re: #174 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - I dibs the downright malevolent. Although it doesn't much matter: an Obama Presidency would set the US further back than did Jimmy Carter's.

re: #176 buzzsawmonkey

From what I understand, alot of the resentment to Keyes was that he was kind of a ringer.

Of course, people voted Clinton in as Senator in NY...

re: #210 LanceKates

Or abducted by aliens and subject to probes.

You don't need aliens for that. Mr. Sulu will be more than happy to perform that job.

re: #212 JamesTKirk

One Jewish carpenter changed the world 2000 years ago. Never doubt the power of Jewish carpenters.

You can thank me later for teeing that one up for you!

re: #196 JamesTKirk

Four comments, and counting.

still a lizard? or a banned one?

re: #185 realwest

Ironically, the 527 groups that emerged from McCain-Feingold will have no problem running those ads. And there is nothing McCain can do about it.

Yes, and my spelling was off. I don't care. I'm sick of this sh-t. Get the governement out of our lives. Theie purpose is to protect our rights- the right to life, liberty, private property and the pursuit of hapiness. To hell with the Marxist/environmentalists AND the religionists. I HAVE A RIGHT TO MY OWN LIFE!

re: #204 Psaturn

I think they are going to use Pastor John Hagee, of whom McCain sought his endorsement.

I'm confused about that.

What the heck has Hagee done that REMOTELY compares to Wright?

re: #214 Watcher

How do they even come up with these names?

Sounds like they made them up in a hurry. Such scamps..

All we have to do is make sure that the Dems choose their candidate at the convention, on national television. Whichever of the two candidates they select, the other side will throw a tantrum. There is bound to be some sort of public imbroglio in side of the convention hall...And when you combine that with the crazy demonstrations outside in the streets - perhaps even violence - the country will watch, and most Americans will vote for John McCain.

It will be like 1968 and 1972 combined.

re: #206 Killgore Trout

It's bitter, don't cling.

You owe me another keyboard.

re: #218 JamesTKirk

You don't need aliens for that. Mr. Sulu will be more than happy to perform that job.

I've heard he's actually a REALLY great guy in the real life.

re: #212 JamesTKirk

One Jewish carpenter changed the world 2000 years ago. Never doubt the power of Jewish carpenters.

LOL...

Actually that person you were thinking was a stonemason...

Not many people know that...

The European Bible translators translated that Greek word to carpenter. When you check out the historical facts and what was actually built back then, stonemasons make much more sense. His father was a stonemason.

re: #210 LanceKates

What about Abba, Air Supply, or Chicago?

re: #194 Killgore Trout

I love PJ O'Rourke! Always have.

"Giving money and power to the government is like giving car keys and whiskey to teenage boys..."

With Obama, we'd be throwing in a bag of some bad-ass weed and a killer bong.

re: #229 Psaturn

LOL...

Actually that person you were thinking was a stonemason...

Not many people know that...

The European Bible translators translated that Greek word to carpenter. When you check out the historical facts and what was actually built back then, stonemasons make much more sense. His father was a stonemason.

HA! Yet ANOTHER thing the freemasons are behind!

/

re: #204 Psaturn

I think they are going to use Pastor John Hagee, of whom McCain sought his endorsement.

I didn't think McCain sought Hagee's endorsement; Hagee just endorsed him.

re: #222 Boston Patriot

Yes, and my spelling was off. I don't care. I'm sick of this sh-t. Get the governement out of our lives. Theie purpose is to protect our rights- the right to life, liberty, private property and the pursuit of hapiness. To hell with the Marxist/environmentalists AND the religionists. I HAVE A RIGHT TO MY OWN LIFE!

But, but......don't you want free health care?

/s

re: #230 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What about Abba, Air Supply, or Chicago?

Not an Abba fan, nor a Chicago fan.

Air Supply.... I only need that when we're talking about minorities, per Glenn Beck.

re: #223 LanceKates

I'm confused about that.

What the heck has Hagee done that REMOTELY compares to Wright?

Oh...Hagee called the Roman church a whore..using the Book of Revelation...Youtube has that video.

re: #230 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hey now, don't lump Chicago in with those other two.

re: #223 LanceKates

I'm confused about that.

What the heck has Hagee done that REMOTELY compares to Wright?

The difference is that Hagee is not McCain's pastor of twenty years.

re: #223 LanceKates

I'm confused about that.

What the heck has Hagee done that REMOTELY compares to Wright?

Made some nutball comment how Hurricane Katrina was punishment from God for allowing homosexuals to do something or other. That kind of crap.

re: #231 BulgarWheat

I've never really read much PJ O'Rourke and know very little about him but that was an awesome speech.

re: #170 NoSubmission

Tomorrow, huh? Literally? :)

First time I heard America referred to as housing part of the returnee-hopefuls.....

re: #233 Ward Cleaver

I didn't think McCain sought Hagee's endorsement; Hagee just endorsed him.

From several articles, it said McCain sought his endorsement...

I was not there so I am going by what was written. And of course we have seen news media as not being too accurate either.

re: #229 Psaturn

LOL...

Actually that person you were thinking was a stonemason...

Not many people know that...

The European Bible translators translated that Greek word to carpenter. When you check out the historical facts and what was actually built back then, stonemasons make much more sense. His father was a stonemason.

You dare doubt the King James version?
Behead the doubters!
/

re: #234 buzzsawmonkey

Yes, he was a ringer. And I'm not endorsing him--I don't know enough about him, though I've read a few things by him that made sense. I'm just musing about how sweet it would be if the man that Obama beat to get into the Senate was part of the ticket that beats him.

Apart from his calls for reparations, he seems to be a pretty conservative guy (which makes his calls for reparations kind of out of place).

Given that we're not going to get reparations on the table, even with a Democrat Congress (they want to perpetuate the 'black victim' which they can't do if they've been 'paid for their suffering'), he wouldn't bother me at all.

The Koz Kurse strikes again.

As soon as he endorsed Obama it was all over. Shouldn't Dems have wizened up by now and start paying him to NOT endorse their candidates? Their only recourse now is to enlist the aid of a shaman steeped in Santaria to do a reverse mojification.

Is there any chance that whoever loses the Democratic nomination will then go off and try a third party run at the Presidency? I mean really destroy the Democratic Party.

Oh, be still my heart!

re: #26 Racer X

The democrat party is in turmoil.

Schadenfreude!

Bombshell:
Not only US of KKKA but now "this racist United States of America"

Just discovered Rev Wright's sermon on 1/21/2007 - see Google cache for Trinity Bulletin

re: #237 Psaturn

Oh...Hagee called the Roman church a whore..using the Book of Revelation...Youtube has that video.

but... the left agrees with that.

SO why would they bash Hagee?

If anything, they ought to be holding him up.

of course, he likely disagrees with the left. heh.

Blast those typical white people!

re: #222 Boston Patriot

Yes, and my spelling was off. I don't care. I'm sick of this sh-t. Get the governement out of our lives. Theie purpose is to protect our rights- the right to life, liberty, private property and the pursuit of hapiness. To hell with the Marxist/environmentalists AND the religionists. I HAVE A RIGHT TO MY OWN LIFE!

LIFE!
LIBERTY!
PROPERTY!

re: #248 sabnen

Is there any chance that whoever loses the Democratic nomination will then go off and try a third party run at the Presidency? I mean really destroy the Democratic Party.

Oh, be still my heart!

I think the one who loses in Denver is more likely to sue.

re: #241 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Made some nutball comment how Hurricane Katrina was punishment from God for allowing homosexuals to do something or other. That kind of crap.

So did Pat Roberts and Jerry Falwell, iirc.

re: #247 GMonkey

The Koz Kurse strikes again.

As soon as he endorsed Obama it was all over. Shouldn't Dems have wizened up by now and start paying him to NOT endorse their candidates? Their only recourse now is to enlist the aid of a shaman steeped in Santaria to do a reverse mojification.

They have a name for a wised-up democrat. They call them Republicans.

re: #237 Psaturn

Oh...Hagee called the Roman church a whore..using the Book of Revelation...Youtube has that video.

That puts him down there with Susan and Tony Alamo.

re: #255 jcm

LIFE!
LIBERTY!
PROPERTY!

THE PURSUIT OF GREEN WOMEN!

re: #242 Killgore Trout

Google his Liberty Manifesto from the CATO institute. Good reading!

Also, get a copy of his book, Give War a Chance I tried to read the passage of his book review of a Jimmy and Rosalyn Carter to my wife. I laughed so hard tears were streaming down my face and my wife thought I had finally snapped. One of the funniest damned things I've ever read.

BO damaged himself all by himself. Reverend wrong had nothing to do with it. Whine and blame others endlessly.

Obama: "Can I just eat my waffle?"

re: #257 Racer X

So did Pat Roberts and Jerry Falwell, iirc.

True, but the left is grasping at straws, saw Hagee endorse McCain and wham, they had their talking point.

re: #263 buzzsawmonkey

The new American revolution is a funhouse version of the French Revolution, folks; get used to it: Libertine! Equalization! Diversity!

The old slogan was hopelessly sexist anyway, since it supported fraternities but not sororities.

re: #223 LanceKates

I'm confused about that.

What the heck has Hagee done that REMOTELY compares to Wright?

40 million Soros dollars spent on wall-to-wall Hague/McCain commercials will end your confusion.

Well y'all this has been a wonderful morning - truly interesting threads AND comments. I hate to leave, I really do, but LUNCH is ready so I'm outta here! LOL!

I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I have the chance to see y'all later on.

#210 People who trash Neil Diamond ought to be audited by the IRS for a decade.

Al Franken, feels those hands touching you?

re: #241 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Eh... I still don't see how that compares to even the "Nicer" of things Wright has said.

I used to watch Hagee on TV LONG ago, before he went headfirst into the "End of the World" bit.

He'd speak of personal responsibility, moral living, etc.

Never did I hear a "No no no, not God Bless America, but God DAMN America!" out of him.

The comparison is just grasping at straws to justify wright. Which, of course, the MSM has no problem doing.

I've never seen Hagee dip into anti-americanism. Nor, if memory serves, did he marry McCain nor did McCain list him as a Spiritual Mentor for a few decades. Nor has Hagee been seen with 'security' provided by the Nation of Islam.

re: #251 LanceKates

but... the left agrees with that.

SO why would they bash Hagee?

If anything, they ought to be holding him up.

of course, he likely disagrees with the left. heh.

You got a point there. I thought it was so interesting that MSM went after Mc Cain after Hagee endorsed him by using Catholic League Bill Donoghue's complaint that he was anti Catholic (and ignored the fact that Hagee actually helped and contributed to a Catholic convent!) but they ignored Bill Donoghue's comments about Trinity UCC Church of Chicago (Obama's church) and also that he made comments that Hollywood Jews hate Christians, specifically Catholic ones in a TV show.

re: #210 LanceKates

Neil Diamond is great.

People who trash Neil Diamond ought to be audited by the IRS for a decade.

Or abducted by aliens and subject to probes.

...you need to check in to detox, dude...

JAFLW

re: #255 jcm

LIFE!
LIBERTY!
PROPERTY!

Yup, all three of those are what the left hates.