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Mainstream Media Still Whitewashing CAIR

Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:29:51 am PDT

With all of the verified, documented information that has come to light about the Council on American Islamic Relations and their ties to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood—not to mention their status as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation Hamas funding trial—there’s simply no excuse for a context-free, totally whitewashed piece like this, even if it is in a relatively small Oklahoma newspaper: Murrah Building bombing shaped Muslim organization.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations was a fledgling organization less than a year old when its co-founder, Nihad Awad, received an urgent telephone call from Oklahoma City in April 1995.

It was just days after a truck bomb blew apart the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building.

The Oklahoma City bombing forever changed the organization created to foster communication between American Muslims and the communities in which they lived, Awad said at the recent Council on American-Islamic Relations Oklahoma banquet in Oklahoma City. “That event shed light on the challenges that faced our community. It started a movement,” he said. ...

Saturday, Awad challenged Oklahoma Muslims to speak out for themselves and other Muslim Americans.

America, he said, is at a crossroads, and American Muslims must help the country correctly define who they are. American Muslims are often viewed with suspicion or seen as a threat, Awad said. Many may have been born in another country and have an accent.

Awad said they should not use these factors as excuses not to voice their concerns when the civil rights of Muslims and others are being violated. ”America needs to be reminded that we are equal under God and under the law,” he said.

“The Oklahoma City bombing was a reminder — when people placed blame on us. We have to communicate. We have to let them know that Islam is peace. Islam is love.”

Here’s much more information about Nihad “Islam is Peace and Love” Awad, who stated openly in 1994, “I am in support of the Hamas movement:” Nihad Awad :: Apologists or Extremists.

Shame on NewsOK.com and the The Oklahoman for publishing such a blatant piece of dishonest-by-omission, pro-extremist propaganda. Was religion writer Carla Hinton unaware of CAIR’s and Awad’s histories, or did she deliberately leave all of that out?

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1 zombie  5/05/08 11:30:39 am reply quote

We should send the MSM a CAIR package.

2 zombie  5/05/08 11:30:50 am reply quote

A package of damning info, that is.

3 Nevergiveup  5/05/08 11:32:36 am reply quote

Ignorance is the greatest threat to freedom.

4 Ringo the Gringo  5/05/08 11:32:42 am reply quote
Was religion writer Carla Hinton unaware of CAIR’s and Awad’s histories, or did she deliberately leave all of that out?

I think many of these reporters actually believe it's their job to whitewash.

5 Sharmuta  5/05/08 11:32:52 am reply quote
“That (bombing) shaped the focus for many years to come. It set us on an entirely different track,” he said

Makes you wonder what was their track before the OKC bombing.

6 zombie  5/05/08 11:33:14 am reply quote
Before the bombing and the anti-Muslim backlash that followed

Y'know, personally, I have basically no memory of there being an "anti-Muslim backlash" after the OK bombing.

What backlash?

If this whole thing yet another CAIR revisionist lie? A couple of random incidents retroactively blown out of proportion into a "backlash"?

7 Honorary Yooper  5/05/08 11:33:15 am reply quote

re: #2 zombie

A package of damning info, that is.

I'll wager the MSM will ignore it, even if we send them a semi-truck full of information.

8 Ward Cleaver  5/05/08 11:33:16 am reply quote

This, in The Oklahoman?

Un.believable.

9 Ward Cleaver  5/05/08 11:34:08 am reply quote

re: #6 zombie

Y'know, personally, I have basically no memory of there being an "anti-Muslim backlash" after the OK bombing.

What backlash?

If this whole thing yet another CAIR revisionist lie? A couple of random incidents retroactively blown out of proportion into a "backlash"?

You bet, a bunch of CAIR-manufactured BS.

10 buzzsawmonkey  5/05/08 11:34:44 am reply quote

CAIR = Tom Sawyer.

The media = conned into whitewashing for CAIR, and paying for the privilege.

11 NoSubmission  5/05/08 11:35:17 am reply quote
Awad said they should not use these factors as excuses not to voice their concerns when the civil rights of Muslims and others are being violated. ”America needs to be reminded that we are equal under God and under the law,” he said.

“The Oklahoma City bombing was a reminder — when people placed blame on us. We have to communicate. We have to let them know that Islam is peace. Islam is love.”


OH? I'll tell you what Islam isn't: equality under God or the law.

12 Milk Toast Intolerant  5/05/08 11:35:25 am reply quote
We have to let them know that Islam is peace. Islam is love.

Tell that to the poor fellow who was shot for not performing his Islamic prayer.

13 paxnhymn  5/05/08 11:35:27 am reply quote

re: #8 Ward Cleaver

This, in The Oklahoman?

Un.believable.


Yep. right in the breadbasket. Lance had better get over there and straighten his locals out...

14 Pastorius  5/05/08 11:35:30 am reply quote

The Muslim backlash that followed the Oklahoma City Bombing?

What did that last? Like, three hours?

As I recall, and please correct me if I'm wrong, the Federal Government named the suspects pretty damned quickly.

15 zombie  5/05/08 11:35:30 am reply quote

re: #4 Ringo the Gringo

I think many of these reporters actually believe it's their job to whitewash.

Oh, that's definitely true.

You should see the course descriptions at journalism schools. They basically teach that "advocacy journalism" -- i.e. biased opinion pieces masquerading as journalism -- are the only way to go. Students who try to insist on neutrality are browbeaten until they cave in.

Needless to say, there is only one way the bias tilts.

16 Ringo the Gringo  5/05/08 11:35:48 am reply quote

re: #6 zombie

Y'know, personally, I have basically no memory of there being an "anti-Muslim backlash" after the OK bombing.

What backlash?

For a few hours that day some people speculated that the bombing may have been the work of Islamic terorists.

That backlash.

17 Sharmuta  5/05/08 11:36:09 am reply quote
Islam is love.

So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them.

surah 4:34

Because nothing says "love" like scourging women.

18 hartkid13  5/05/08 11:36:09 am reply quote

Americans are equal under God and under the law, unless you are one of CAIR's targets.

Finally my first comment. Out of the damn shell and into the vast Zionist conspiracy.

19 chinesearithmetic  5/05/08 11:36:26 am reply quote

America, he said, is at a crossroads, and American Muslims must help the country correctly define who they are.

I believe we're sinking down.

20 MandyManners  5/05/08 11:36:47 am reply quote

re: #6 zombie

Y'know, personally, I have basically no memory of there being an "anti-Muslim backlash" after the OK bombing.

What backlash?

If this whole thing yet another CAIR revisionist lie? A couple of random incidents retroactively blown out of proportion into a "backlash"?

I called up the Iranian mission (?) at the U.N. and cussed a blue streak.

21 red satellite  5/05/08 11:37:10 am reply quote

Saturday, Awad challenged Oklahoma Muslims to speak out for themselves and other Muslim Americans.

Yes, let's do! All four of them.

22 Ward Cleaver  5/05/08 11:37:15 am reply quote

Also on that page:

On the Web
To read CAIR's civil-rights reports, go online to [Link: www.News...] OK.com/religion.

Get your dhimmi whitewashing directly from the swine's mouth!

23 Silhouette  5/05/08 11:37:30 am reply quote

re: #6 zombie

Y'know, personally, I have basically no memory of there being an "anti-Muslim backlash" after the OK bombing.

What backlash?

For two seconds, someone said, "Wonder if this was Islamic terrorists?"

If Biz-CAIR-o World, momentarially suspecting = backlash.

24 BulgarWheat  5/05/08 11:38:23 am reply quote

"We have to let them know that Islam is peace. Islam is love.”

Yep, sawing off helpless peoples heads sure is the first thing I think of when I ponder the ROP.

I don't Effing CAIR what this asshat says. I don't CAIR what the MSM says.

25 Ward Cleaver  5/05/08 11:38:40 am reply quote

re: #14 Pastorius

The Muslim backlash that followed the Oklahoma City Bombing?

What did that last? Like, three hours?

As I recall, and please correct me if I'm wrong, the Federal Government named the suspects pretty damned quickly.

McVeigh was pulled over the same day and arrested, because he didn't have a license plate on his car (part of his anti-government wackiness).

26 Nevergiveup  5/05/08 11:39:39 am reply quote

re: #23 Silhouette

For two seconds, someone said, "Wonder if this was Islamic terrorists?"

If Biz-CAIR-o World, momentarially suspecting = backlash.

You all are racist bastards. Of course there was a backlash, that is why they pulled Timothy McVeigh over on the highway. He was obviously a Mus...ah never mind?

27 Alouette  5/05/08 11:39:43 am reply quote

re: #6 zombie

Y'know, personally, I have basically no memory of there being an "anti-Muslim backlash" after the OK bombing.

What backlash?

If this whole thing yet another CAIR revisionist lie? A couple of random incidents retroactively blown out of proportion into a "backlash"?

"Backlash"= that horrible thing that was caused by 9/11 (What happened on 9/11? That's the day the "backlash" began)

28 zombie  5/05/08 11:39:44 am reply quote
Awad said they should not use these factors as excuses not to voice their concerns when the civil rights of Muslims and others are being violated. ”America needs to be reminded that we are equal under God and under the law,” he said.

No, YOU need to be reminded that we are all equal under the law.

Which means no special priveleges for you. No burqas in banks. No foot-washing stations in public places. No hijabs in drivers license photos. No "sensitivity training" of law enforcement to cater to YOUR demands.

Etc.

29 sattv4u2  5/05/08 11:40:07 am reply quote

Saturday, Awad challenged Oklahoma Muslims to speak out for themselves and other Muslim Americans.

Awad ,,,,, we would actually LISTEN if they spoke as Americans 1st and Muslims 2nd. When either my Catholic faith or my Sicilain/ Italian/ Irish heritage are at odds ,,,,,, I PLEDGED ALLEGIANCE TO AMERICA ,,,,, Not the Vatican, Palermo, Rome or Belfast!

feh !

30 alegrias  5/05/08 11:40:11 am reply quote

re: #16 Ringo the Gringo

For a few hours that day some people speculated that the bombing may have been the work of Islamic terorists.

That backlash.

* * *
CAIR's message then and after every horrible act should have been to throw the perpetrators under the bus as it were--not to lie about the Caliphate.

Chalres, thank you for describing WashPost's icky CAIR enabler Sally Quinn on another other thread as the WashPost elitist snob married to the Post's former editor she really is, on her "On Religion" project to empower CAIR.

31 akak  5/05/08 11:40:43 am reply quote

Terry Nichols was just calling the wrong number 20 some odd times, when he reached Middle Eastern terror office.

Why he kept trying is anyone's guess.

32 Killgore Trout  5/05/08 11:40:46 am reply quote

Why are the Religion writers in the MSM the least capable of criticizing Islam?

33 Occasional Reader  5/05/08 11:40:59 am reply quote
Islam is peace. Islam is love.”

IT'S A COOKBOOK!

34 Silhouette  5/05/08 11:41:08 am reply quote

re: #4 Ringo the Gringo

I think many of these reporters actually believe it's their job to whitewash.

To prevent all of us barbaric, bitter, un-educated rubes from over-reacting, because everyone knows we are all just a hair-trigger away from getting our torches and pitchforks and pulling random brown people from their homes to beat them in the streets.

35 alegrias  5/05/08 11:41:12 am reply quote

re: #19 chinesearithmetic

America, he said, is at a crossroads, and American Muslims must help the country correctly define who they are.

I believe we're sinking down.

* * *
Hey, defeatism is leftist. Cut that cut&running out.

36 BulgarWheat  5/05/08 11:41:17 am reply quote

re: #31 akak

This is interesting. Can you elaborate more, please!

37 loppyd  5/05/08 11:41:52 am reply quote
Was religion writer Carla Hinton unaware of CAIR’s and Awad’s histories, or did she deliberately leave all of that out?

It was an inconvenient truth....

/I love to turn that phrase on the libs

38 sattv4u2  5/05/08 11:42:06 am reply quote

re: #32 Killgore Trout

Why are the Religion writers in the MSM the least capable of criticizing Islam?

And the most capable of criticizing Chritianity and/ or Judeaism !

39 jcm  5/05/08 11:42:14 am reply quote

re: #6 zombie

Y'know, personally, I have basically no memory of there being an "anti-Muslim backlash" after the OK bombing.

What backlash?

If this whole thing yet another CAIR revisionist lie? A couple of random incidents retroactively blown out of proportion into a "backlash"?

Backlash -- speculation in the immediate aftermath of the bombing Islamic terrorist were behind the attack. When all know Islamist have never, ever done anything like that in the past so the speculation was completely unwarranted.
/CAIR

40 akak  5/05/08 11:42:31 am reply quote

re: #36 BulgarWheat

This is interesting. Can you elaborate more, please!

jaynadavis.com

41 loppyd  5/05/08 11:42:36 am reply quote

re: #38 sattv4u2

And the most capable of criticizing Chritianity and/ or Judeaism !

Sally Quinn fasts for Ramadan.

42 Psaturn  5/05/08 11:42:43 am reply quote

I am still thinking about that McVeigh guy and why he did what he did. He served in the Middle East and was wondering if he caught something there?

And yes we do need to keep informing everyone that CAIR is not the equivalence to ADL.

43 BulgarWheat  5/05/08 11:42:50 am reply quote

re: #40 akak

Thanks, I'll look further into this.

44 Sharmuta  5/05/08 11:43:09 am reply quote
America, he said, is at a crossroads, and American Muslims must help the country correctly define who they are.

Uh- we've been doing a fine job of defining who we, as Americans, are for over 200 years now, and I personally don't believe we need members of a 7th century Bedouin cult trying to "correct" us now. Think we'll stick with the tried and true "Lovers and Defenders of Liberty" definition.

45 Ben Hur  5/05/08 11:43:18 am reply quote

She probably thought it was "balance."

46 Milk Toast Intolerant  5/05/08 11:43:21 am reply quote
The Oklahoma City bombing forever changed the organization created to foster communication between American Muslims and the communities in which they lived, Awad said at the recent Council on American-Islamic Relations Oklahoma banquet in Oklahoma City. “That event shed light on the challenges that faced our community. It started a movement,” he said. ...

This is yet another lie. When the chairman of CAIR, Omar Ahmad, addressed an audience of California Muslims in 1998, said that Islam is in America not to be equal to other faiths but to be dominant, and that the Koran should be the highest authority in America.

47 red satellite  5/05/08 11:43:26 am reply quote

re: #28 zombie

No, YOU need to be reminded that we are all equal under the law.

Which means no special priveleges for you. No burqas in banks. No foot-washing stations in public places. No hijabs in drivers license photos. No "sensitivity training" of law enforcement to cater to YOUR demands.

Etc.

Etc. to be sure! I wonder how long we could make that list of privs. -if we all pile on with examples of current appeasement.

48 sattv4u2  5/05/08 11:43:35 am reply quote

re: #41 loppyd

Sally Quinn fasts for Ramadan.

hopefully, next year, Ramadan lasts until she's too weak to type

49 Occasional Reader  5/05/08 11:44:07 am reply quote

re: #35 alegrias

* * *
Hey, defeatism is leftist. Cut that cut&running out.

It was a "Crossroads" reference.

50 Bacchus's daddy  5/05/08 11:44:21 am reply quote

A "fledgling" organization. How quaint that sounds. I just don't have the words to describe "journalism" like this,.

51 littleoldlady  5/05/08 11:44:53 am reply quote

There's still some unaddressed and unanswered evidence about the OK bombing that does in fact implicate a certain ME country.

Jayna Davis

52 Killgore Trout  5/05/08 11:45:18 am reply quote

re: #38 sattv4u2

And the most capable of criticizing Chritianity and/ or Judeaism !


I glanced at her other articles and she just goes easy on everybody.

53 Sharmuta  5/05/08 11:45:33 am reply quote

re: #32 Killgore Trout

Why are the Religion writers in the MSM the least capable of criticizing Islam?

Because they have to stick with the moral relativism narrative in order to assist the other "news" departments.

54 littleoldlady  5/05/08 11:45:38 am reply quote

re: #40 akak

I'm a slow typer. :-(

55 Boot Hill  5/05/08 11:46:09 am reply quote
We have to let them know that Islam is peace. Islam is love

when they do a lot more showing and a lot less talking, I'll do a lot more believing.

56 loppyd  5/05/08 11:46:11 am reply quote

re: #48 sattv4u2

hopefully, next year, Ramadan lasts until she's too weak to type

LOL!

57 Psaturn  5/05/08 11:46:17 am reply quote

re: #32 Killgore Trout

Why are the Religion writers in the MSM the least capable of criticizing Islam?

Good question!

I think if you have taken some Theology classes in liberal colleges, you may understand what is going on...

There is some aspect of modern intellectualism that seek to find a moral equivalence and ignore the worst parts and impute badness to where there is none (like making Fundamentalist Christians as bad as Fundamentalist Muslims).

58 Sharmuta  5/05/08 11:46:17 am reply quote

re: #50 Bacchus's daddy

A "fledgling" organization. How quaint that sounds. I just don't have the words to describe "journalism" like this,.

I do, but I don't want to get deleted.

59 akak  5/05/08 11:46:29 am reply quote

re: #54 littleoldlady


but an early riser ;

60 Ward Cleaver  5/05/08 11:47:05 am reply quote

re: #45 Ben Hur

She probably thought it was "balance."

Most of them are experts at moral relativism.

61 Sharmuta  5/05/08 11:47:35 am reply quote

akak & {littleoldlady}-

Jayna's book is a must read.

62 nyc redneck  5/05/08 11:47:58 am reply quote

the jihadis here are cry babies.
squalling abt. moslem back lash. always playing the persecuted victim. they're probably annoyed they didn't get any attention, to speak of, after the oklahoma bombing.
the victim card is their game now, because their numbers are small. as they grow in population they will begin to jihad w/ the sword. look at what they are doing in other countries. (indonesia,) bullets to the head.
chop.

63 loppyd  5/05/08 11:47:58 am reply quote

re: #45 Ben Hur

BEN HUR!

Hola Señor....

64 Charles  5/05/08 11:48:06 am reply quote

re: #32 Killgore Trout

Why are the Religion writers in the MSM the least capable of criticizing Islam?

I think CAIR is focusing heavily on these kinds of writers.

65 alegrias  5/05/08 11:48:08 am reply quote

re: #41 loppyd

Sally Quinn fasts for Ramadan.

* * *
She & her hubby the editor of the WashPost who was Woodward & Bernstein's boss during Watergate, hosted a party celebrating "RECOUNT" the movie in Georgetown, Washington DC just this weekend.

RECOUNT, when Al Gore lost to George Bush in Nov. 2000--and leftists lost their minds.

66 EC Marm  5/05/08 11:48:11 am reply quote

I remember a lefty I worked with that immediately thought the OKC bombing was "Middle East" related. I talked him out of it in two minutes:
1. Middle of the country, not an "international" city
2. Anniversary of Waco

CAIR is full of shit, as usual.

67 yma o hyd  5/05/08 11:48:12 am reply quote

re: #32 Killgore Trout

Why are the Religion writers in the MSM the least capable of criticizing Islam?

Its because they think their 'holy' book really is holy and can't be criticised, nor any of them as its such a peaceful religion ...

68 LanceKates  5/05/08 11:48:17 am reply quote

re: #46 Milk Toast Intolerant

Funny.... I always thought it was just a psycho christian guy who did that.


Are they admitting that Padilla, a muslim terrorist, was involved as John Doe #2?

69 Charles  5/05/08 11:48:43 am reply quote

Sally Quinn, Tim Townsend, now Carla Hinton -- all religion writers.

70 madisonsfriend  5/05/08 11:48:43 am reply quote

re: #60 Ward Cleaver

Adolescent females in different religions
Catholicism- confirmation
Judaism- Bat mitzvah
Islam- Genital mutilation

Hey, it is their culture and religion- no different than our rituals.

71 alegrias  5/05/08 11:49:26 am reply quote

re: #48 sattv4u2

hopefully, next year, Ramadan lasts until she's too weak to type

* * *
Sally Quinn's still a big cheese at WashPost, they'll prop her up until she brings on the Caliphate.

72 sattv4u2  5/05/08 11:49:31 am reply quote

re: #65 alegrias

* * *
She & her hubby the editor of the WashPost who was Woodward & Bernstein's boss during Watergate, hosted a party celebrating "RECOUNT" the movie in Georgetown, Washington DC just this weekend.

RECOUNT, when Al Gore lost to George Bush in Nov. 2000--and leftists lost their minds.

Can't lose what one has never had !

73 LanceKates  5/05/08 11:49:48 am reply quote

Remember, also, that Norman OK is home to a mosque that the '13th hijacker' had been to, and also the kid who blew himself up outside the Sooner's stadium after being denied entrance at two different gates (who had lots of pro-islam literature in his dorm... all of which was ignored quickly.)

74 BrianA  5/05/08 11:50:32 am reply quote

re: #64 Charles

I think CAIR is focusing heavily on these kinds of writers.

Are they being fed a load of BS or just affraid of being called names?

75 Occasional Reader  5/05/08 11:50:41 am reply quote

re: #66 EC Marm

I remember a lefty I worked with that immediately thought the OKC bombing was "Middle East" related. I talked him out of it in two minutes:
1. Middle of the country, not an "international" city
2. Anniversary of Waco

CAIR is full of shit, as usual.

Well, let's be frank; "islamist terrorists" were certainly - and reasonably - on the short list of suspects in the immediate aftermath.

76 Dianna  5/05/08 11:50:54 am reply quote

re: #6 zombie

Y'know, personally, I have basically no memory of there being an "anti-Muslim backlash" after the OK bombing.

What backlash?

If this whole thing yet another CAIR revisionist lie? A couple of random incidents retroactively blown out of proportion into a "backlash"?

Yes, it's a revisionist lie.

A friend called me on the day of the bombing and asked who I thought did it, foreigners or Americans? I said, "It's a federal building, so it's an American who did it."

I don't recall anyone screaming, "It was the muslims! Let's get 'em!"

77 Ma Sands  5/05/08 11:51:37 am reply quote
Shame on NewsOK.com and the The Oklahoman for publishing such a blatant piece of dishonest-by-omission, pro-extremist propaganda. Was religion writer Carla Hinton unaware of CAIR’s and Awad’s histories, or did she deliberately leave all of that out?


Just sent Carla Hinton an e-mail.....

78 madisonsfriend  5/05/08 11:51:47 am reply quote

re: #75 Occasional Reader

Well, let's be frank; "islamist terrorists" were certainly - and reasonably - on the short list of suspects in the immediate aftermath.

Well, I'll be frank- any kind of bombing these days- I immediately think Islamic fundies- and today- I am usually right.

79 CaptCool  5/05/08 11:52:14 am reply quote

Islam means submission, not love. Obey or say goodbye to your head or some other important part of your body. That's the history of Islam, unedited.

80 Occasional Reader  5/05/08 11:52:21 am reply quote

re: #76 Dianna

I don't recall anyone screaming, "It was the muslims! Let's get 'em!"

Sure, but what about all the (self-reported) dirty looks, and hurt feelings? Those are hate crimes, and are at least on a par with Auschwitz!

81 Occasional Reader  5/05/08 11:52:53 am reply quote

re: #78 madisonsfriend

Well, I'll be frank

Fine, and I'll be Dr. Forrester.

82 BrianA  5/05/08 11:54:01 am reply quote

re: #76 Dianna

Yes, it's a revisionist lie.

A friend called me on the day of the bombing and asked who I thought did it, foreigners or Americans? I said, "It's a federal building, so it's an American who did it."

I don't recall anyone screaming, "It was the muslims! Let's get 'em!"

There wasn't even time for a backlash. McVeigh was caught 90 minutes later.

83 Ward Cleaver  5/05/08 11:54:02 am reply quote

re: #73 LanceKates

Remember, also, that Norman OK is home to a mosque that the '13th hijacker' had been to, and also the kid who blew himself up outside the Sooner's stadium after being denied entrance at two different gates (who had lots of pro-islam literature in his dorm... all of which was ignored quickly.)

Yes, thank you David Boren!

/for sweeping it all under the rug

84 Killgore Trout  5/05/08 11:54:16 am reply quote

re: #57 Psaturn

I think you're right. My first instinct is to blame it on some sort of pan-theist agenda but I don't think they're even that clever. It seems the point of the Religion witters is be uncritical of all religions and religious organizations. I guess our modern concept of religion is that they're all equally valid and everybody has the right to feel good about their religious convictions no matter what they are. They should give me one of those Religion columns.

85 Milk Toast Intolerant  5/05/08 11:54:45 am reply quote

re: #68 LanceKates

Funny.... I always thought it was just a psycho christian guy who did that.


Are they admitting that Padilla, a muslim terrorist, was involved as John Doe #2?

LanceKates,

Which psycho Christian guy are you referring to? Omar Ahmad is a Muslim and chairman of CAIR. He's not Christian.

86 alegrias  5/05/08 11:54:48 am reply quote

re: #72 sattv4u2

Can't lose what one has never had !


* * *
Does not keep William Ayers and Sally Quinn from trying to recapture their glory days, when the WashPost helped bring down Richard Nixon.
THey'd like to have another republican president they dislike brought down. Even if it means putting the country & world through hell.

87 Sharmuta  5/05/08 11:54:50 am reply quote

I wonder if cair reps didn't get their opportunity to rub shoulders with Ms. Hinton at this religion conference:

In Islam, peace is a divine principle and violence is abhorred, several organizers and guest speakers said at the "Denouncing Violence in the Name of God: The Case of Islam” conference at Oklahoma City University's Freede Center.

"Islam always seeks safety and protection of people,” said Muhammad Abu Laylah, head of the English Department, Faculty of Languages and Translation at Al-Azhar University in Egypt.

About 375 people attended the conference hosted by the Institute for Interfaith Dialog in partnership with OCU, University of Oklahoma's Religious Studies Department, Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism Texas and Mainstream Oklahoma Baptists

88 Ward Cleaver  5/05/08 11:55:09 am reply quote

They have a nice little video by Nihad Awad on that page, too.

/spit!

89 Killgore Trout  5/05/08 11:55:38 am reply quote

re: #69 Charles

I detect a trend.

90 madisonsfriend  5/05/08 11:55:38 am reply quote

re: #81 Occasional Reader

Fine, and I'll be Dr. Forrester.

I had to look this up-I thought it might be Rocky Horror. I am so out of it.

91 zmdavid  5/05/08 11:55:45 am reply quote

re: #77 Ma Sands

Just sent Carla Hinton an e-mail.....

I'll bet she has her fingers in her ears yelling "Backlash! Backlash! Backlash!".

Anyone who complains about CAIR is obviously a bigot. It must be so, that's what CAIR says and they are the most reliable source on religious issues.
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92 loppyd  5/05/08 11:55:51 am reply quote

re: #65 alegrias

* * *
She & her hubby the editor of the WashPost who was Woodward & Bernstein's boss during Watergate, hosted a party celebrating "RECOUNT" the movie in Georgetown, Washington DC just this weekend.

RECOUNT, when Al Gore lost to George Bush in Nov. 2000--and leftists lost their minds.

You mean what was left of their minds. :~)

I recently got into a heated argument with a doofus in my office about the 2000 election. When I asked him why he didn't see all of the promised and threatened screaming headlines and front page stories declaring that the media's independent re-count had found that Al Gore had won Florida he was a little flustered....

93 LanceKates  5/05/08 11:56:17 am reply quote

re: #85 Milk Toast Intolerant

LanceKates,

Which psycho Christian guy are you referring to? Omar Ahmad is a Muslim and chairman of CAIR. He's not Christian.

I'm referring to McVeigh.

And no, I don't believe McVeigh was a christian, but he is held up as an example of Christian Terrorists.

94 opnion  5/05/08 11:56:35 am reply quote

This is ridiculous. Muslims got no fall out from Oklahoma.
It is nothing more than a clumsy diversion from 9/11

95 Charles  5/05/08 11:56:41 am reply quote

Steven Emerson raised the possibility of Islamic terrorism shortly after the Murrah bombing -- and CAIR still smears him with it, even though it was not an unreasonable suspicion (and he changed his opinion when evidence became available).

96 Ma Sands  5/05/08 11:56:46 am reply quote

re: #87 Shar


Very good piece of investigative reporting, Shar..... :)

97 loppyd  5/05/08 11:57:04 am reply quote

re: #81 Occasional Reader

Fine, and I'll be Dr. Forrester.

How was your arugula? Not too bitter, I hope.

98 yma o hyd  5/05/08 11:57:07 am reply quote

re: #51 littleoldlady

There's still some unaddressed and unanswered evidence about the OK bombing that does in fact implicate a certain ME country.

Jayna Davis

Well - so CAIR squealed because they knew something most Americans didn't: there was indeed a ME link.
Makes sense, now.

99 rosterguard99  5/05/08 11:57:18 am reply quote

We have to let them know that Islam is peace. Islam is love.

Better let bin Laden, Hamas, et al know that, too, while you're at it...

100 jamsler  5/05/08 11:57:20 am reply quote

re: #39 jcm

Neither do I.

I didn't start automatically suspecting Muslims until after they started blowing shit up. Now, after so many Muslims have blown up so many things, it's hard for me not to assume that if some shit gets blown up, there's a Muslim involved. Sort of a conditioned response, I suppose. Boy, that Pavlov sure was an islamophobe.

Religion of love and peace? More like the religion of loving blowing things to pieces.

islam is a race the same way nazi is a race.

101 Ben Hur  5/05/08 11:57:36 am reply quote

re: #63 loppyd

BEN HUR!

Hola Se�...

It is I.

I assume the square I am seeing after the Hola Se is really an "xy."

102 LanceKates  5/05/08 11:57:45 am reply quote

re: #94 opnion

This is ridiculous. Muslims got no fall out from Oklahoma.
It is nothing more than a clumsy diversion from 9/11

possible muslim connections were quickly silenced.

They caught McVeigh and Nichols VERY quickly.

Then gave up looking for 'john doe number 2' who bears a CRAZY resembalance to Jose Padilla, later arrested as an islamic terrorist American Citizen.

103 Ma Sands  5/05/08 11:57:56 am reply quote

re: #91 zmdavid

Well.....as long as she doesn't put her hands over her eyes..... :)

104 madisonsfriend  5/05/08 11:58:23 am reply quote

re: #86 alegrias

But wasn't Sally more of a gossip culture writer then?

105 loppyd  5/05/08 11:58:41 am reply quote

re: #101 Ben Hur

It is I.

I assume the square I am seeing after the Hola Se is really an "xy."

natch.