Hello Lizards!

Emily Dickinson is my favorite poet of all time. Simple yet profound. Every word measured and not a single one wasted.

Since it is an open thread - Farm Dog versus Wile E. Coyote - which one is Obama and which one is Clinton?

re: #3 Mich-again

Emily Dickinson is my favorite poet of all time. Simple yet profound. Every word measured and not a single one wasted.

Oh, I just love her, too!

Good night, Lizards!

The pedigree of honey
Does not concern the bee;
A clover, any time, to him
Is aristocracy.

Sometimes I have bee
n that way about bee
r.

Emily was quite the eccentric, IIRC. No one knew she could write until they found her work after she died.

re: #6 jaunte

I feel that way about waffles

God, I need a drink.

A ballot stuffing we will go!

A ballot stuffing we will go!

. . .

re: #6 jaunte

The pedigree of honey
Does not concern the bee;
A clover, any time, to him
Is aristocracy.

Sometimes I have been that way about beer.

Sometimes?

Naw.

re: #10 Macker

God, I need a drink.

I recommend tequila.

It will not only make you forget today, it will make you forget the whole darned week.

6 months until the big day...there's plenty more opportunities for Barry to screw up and take some more flak from us sensible folks. Let's hope someone from the GOP has the fortitude to go after this guy and still promote a conservative agenda.

re: #13 Syrah

bottom shelf, plastic bottle tequila is the way to go.

OK, we need something to argue about.

Just posted on zomblog:

Here come the pro-Expelled demonstrations

Oh dear.

Just when you thought it was safe to get back in the classroom...a protester promoting the claims put forth in Ben Stein’s controversial film Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed showed up on the U.C. Berkeley campus today to argue with students about creationism and atheism.

When I stumbled across this scene, I didn’t at first notice the Expelled card on his sign. It’s rare to see anti-atheism protesters in Berkeley (as you might imagine), so I stuck around for a while to eavesdrop on the ongoing arguments.

It wasn’t until I circled around to the back that I got the full gist of his intent.

And then it hit me — Oooohhh, he was inspired to confront the UC students by Ben Stein, who thinks creationism should be given equal time in science classes alongside evolutionary biology. (Which, in my opinion, is a completely ludicrous demand, seeing as creationism is not science. Teach theology in Sunday school; in biology class, stick to the scientific method. This review of the film pretty much sums up my opinions on the matter.)

I don't create reality -- I just report on it. So don't blame me for the topic!

re: #13 Syrah

Frak that! Mezcal will make me forget the whole damn year!

re: #15 schultzw

bottom shelf, plastic bottle tequila is the way to go.

I went for a middle-shelf mid-price brand. Pepe Lopez

as the song goes, he has been a good friend . . .

re: #16 zombie

How can you be so sure?

God bless you Zombie! I was sick of the Hillary/Obama thing. Sorry though I don't have an opinion on this. Just happy to change the subject!

re: #17 buzzsawmonkey

Zombie: I gave you a followup in the previous thread, somewhere around #876. Read, and take to heart.

I read it! Just no time to craft a reply.

Your ideas are appreciated.

re: #16 zombie

The thing is, science doesn't support some of the ideas that Macroevolution purports, while some of the aspects of Creationism are supported by sound science.

re: #23 schultzw

The thing is, science doesn't support some of the ideas that Macroevolution purports, while some of the aspects of Creationism are supported by sound science.

There we go! Good way to kick off a rollicking argument!

re: #4 hulkster

That's easy: the dogs are the Clintons, the coyote Obama. Michelle is back in the lair

re: #21 nigella

God bless you Zombie! I was sick of the Hillary/Obama thing. Sorry though I don't have an opinion on this. Just happy to change the subject!

I haven't had time to pay attention all night. Who won? H or O?

Geez, someone put the troll on the blue collar thread out of it's misery, it's the only humane thing to do.

/now it's lamely taunting Christians

And what a lot of folks, both in the science and in other fields fail to mention in the whole argument is the difference between Micro- and Macro-evolution.

re: #7 buzzsawmonkey

And you can sing all her poems to the tune of "The Yellow Rose of Texas."

I did not know that.. Which came first? I'm guessing my grrrl Emily.

Flagellation.

re: #14 schultzw Let's HOPE?
Fuck that, we're gonna go after Barry, hammer and tong.
I think a lot - actually most - folks out here don't realize that Hillary couldn't really go after Obama after Super-Tuesday - if she did, the super-delegates could well have all announced for Obama to get her to shut up. They may still do so. But McCain and the 527's don't have to worry about anything except winning the election.
And I hope, pray and expect that excellent blogs like LGF will continue to expose Obama for the person he really is: Anti-America, Anti-Israel and Anti-White (unless being neutral or pro-White would help him at any particular junction).

Hoo-ee! Just finished watching "I Am Legend" on DVD. Scary stuff. Lot's of zombies that needed killin'. Possibly the best performance by Will Smith ever. The DVD has a bunch of really dark animé style shorts on it. So, I am behind on the election results. But it seems BHO pulled stronger in Indiana than anyone expected.

Oh, OK, went and checked -- looks like a split decision with O and H.

That's the best news possible! Keep the race undecided until the convention!

Zombie, Obama in NC and Hillary, barely in Indiana. The count in one County is questionable. Dirty tricks?

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mini-put golf fun and addicting best score yet is 31

Tim Russert: 'We Now Know Who the Nominee Will Be'

re: #26 zombie

O made a statement tonight... IN is still too close to call with 17000 votes separating them (Clinton leads), but the one county which is yet only partially counted includes Gary, IN, which is expected to be dominated by O (and the early counts there show that.)

So, Hillary has lost any and all momentum now. Fat pantsuit lady will sing shortly...

re: #26 zombie

I haven't had time to pay attention all night. Who won? H or O?

Nah. There still printing Obama ballots in Gary. He'll probably pull it off.

That last 5% is taking a l o n g time to count.

Nothing strange considering the closeness of the the race. Nothing at all
/sarc

Going to sleep --have a great evening/morning Lizards!

re: #19 Syrah

On the last thread you SAID you were buying drinks for everyone.
I mean...um...I'm not trying to be pushy or anything, but...
just wondering.

re: #33 zombie

No. Hillary is too far down in the numbers (delegates) for a close call to be acceptable. She really really needed to win these contests. She trails by around 150 delegates (depends upon whom you ask), and now hasn't a prayer of picking up that amount in the few contests that are left.

Is INDIANA a "winner take all" state? or do they divide delegates?

re: #39 mattm

That last 5% is taking a l o n g time to count.

Nothing strange considering the closeness of the the race. Nothing at all
/sarc

Blacks driving into Gary from Chicago? Check the interstate traffic!

re: #43 rawmuse

It looks like they divvy them up

re: #37 freetoken

O made a statement tonight... IN is still too close to call with 17000 votes separating them (Clinton leads), but the one county which is yet only partially counted includes Gary, IN, which is expected to be dominated by O (and the early counts there show that.)

Hey, the good people of Union county haven't been heard from yet. She'll pick up about 1-2000 votes down there.

re: #32 rawmuse "BHO pulled stronger in Indiana than anyone expected."
Except, of course, for the Mayor of Gary -who extended the time to count the votes so all those Obama Supporters could get into Gary in time to vote for Obama.

BTW - what is the square in your post for in the
"anim%uFFFDtyle shorts"?

re: #33 zombie

Oh, OK, went and checked -- looks like a split decision with O and H.

That's the best news possible! Keep the race undecided until the convention!

You wish, she got creamed in North Carolina and is only hanging on by her fingernails in Indiana.

/there's a very good chance this will be over before next Tuesday

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nsfw but funny

re: #41 wolfie

Its not everyday that you win the 1K

A mojito's on the way.

:-D

re: #43 rawmuse

Is INDIANA a "winner take all" state? or do they divide delegates?

/all Bonkey primaries are proportional

re: #47 realwest

It was supposed to be "anime" with an accent over the e, like the Japanese comics.

re: #43 rawmuse IIRC, they divide delegates the way they have in other primaries.

re: #50 Syrah

Its not everyday that you win the 1K

A mojito's on the way.

:-D

Oh, thank you, thank you. Muchisimas gracias!
And sincere felicitations!

Russert is so very convinced it is all over... he likely is correct.

re: #42 freetoken

No. Hillary is too far down in the numbers (delegates) for a close call to be acceptable. She really really needed to win these contests. She trails by around 150 delegates (depends upon whom you ask), and now hasn't a prayer of picking up that amount in the few contests that are left.

Unless, of course, the Michigan and Florida delegates somehow get seated, then it'd be a free-for-all.

re: #35 JimmyTheClaw

[Link: www.ibogleif.dk...]

mini-put golf fun and addicting best score yet is 31

Keep at it, once you figure out the angles you can score in the low 20's.
(My best is 20.)
// {;-)™
// Way too much time on my hands!

re: #52 rawmuse Ah, thanks - I've seen it out here before but never quite understood it.

re: #35 JimmyTheClaw
Shoot - link doesn't work for me!

re: #56 Spiny Norman

Well, according to the Obama supporters out there writing on the blogs, the numbers now are that even if MI and FL delegates are seated, and Hillary won the majority of the remaining delegates in the few contests left, Obama still has the numerical advantage.

If that is true, then it is over.

re: #58 realwest

Maybe these little comment boxes don't support diacritical characters. Let's try another one.

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re: #56 Spiny Norman

Unless, of course, the Michigan and Florida delegates somehow get seated, then it'd be a free-for-all.

And you can count on the MI and FL delegates to go to court to get them included. It's the dimocrat way. This will only get better, folks!

She survived. Lake county didn't stuff enough ballots.

re: #63 Opilio

She survived. Lake county didn't stuff enough ballots.

RECOUNT!

re: #38 Opilio

Nah. There still printing Obama ballots in Gary. He'll probably pull it off.

BWAHAHAHA!

re: #39 mattm

That last 5% is taking a l o n g time to count.

Nothing strange considering the closeness of the the race. Nothing at all

/sarc

Yes, but that 5% are the ballots they're still printing...

Yeah, Fox calls Indiana for pantsuit!

re: #59 realwest

Shoot - link doesn't work for me!

its a flash player game

You know Bill has got to be furious about the Afr-Am vote. Just furious.
It's strange. It never bothered them when it was 90%+ for Dems. Why not? All Republicans are evil racists in their view. But now they're on the losing end of the block vote. It's suddenly not fair!
And to think he was once the first black president. Geepers.

In fact, when the counted the remainder of the Lake county ballots, she made up ground. About 7000 votes. His margin only ended up 55-45. He did better in Indianapolis.

re: #61 rawmuse

Maybe these little comment boxes don't support diacritical characters. Let's try another one.

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It makes a difference if you view the comment through a refresh or by hitting new comments.

re: #60 freetoken Sorry to have to disagree with you, but if everything you said was or came true, then Obama wouldn't have enough delegates to win a first ballot and then there'd be a floor fight. And at that point, Hillary would have nothing to lose by SLAMMING Obama, and the superdelegates be damned.

PIMF: When they counted...

re: #65 Spiny Norman

Only in Democrapic precincts, do you get 110% of the people voting.

re: #73 jainphx

Only in Democrapic precincts, do you get 110% of the people voting.

That was Philadelphia in 2004, wasn't it?

re: #67 JimmyTheClaw I've got Flash Player and the latest version, too!
Rats.

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lots of cool radio shows some even with the original commercials

If there is less then a 10K spread, there will be demands for a recount.

(These little setbacks can be overcome. See Gregoire Vs Rossi, WA.)

re: #62 Bob in Breckenridge

And you can count on the MI and FL delegates to go to court to get them included. It's the dimocrat way. This will only get better, folks!

They'll never get it past the credential committee's Obama members teamed up with 25 Dean members.

/to save face, they'll probably come up with some type of face saving deal to seat delegates from the two States but not threaten Obama's nomination

re: #68 wolfie ROFL! Gee do you think he'll move his office out of Harlem now?!

re: #71 realwest

Sorry to have to disagree with you, but if everything you said was or came true, then Obama wouldn't have enough delegates to win a first ballot and then there'd be a floor fight. And at that point, Hillary would have nothing to lose by SLAMMING Obama, and the superdelegates be damned.

A floor fight in the convention center and riots outside in the streets...

_Tee-hee!

When all is said and done, it looks like she'll win Indiana by about 20-25000 votes... about 2%. She won by more than that in Texas, but Obama ended up with more Texas delegates.

re: #4 hulkster

Since it is an open thread - Farm Dog versus Wile E. Coyote - which one is Obama and which one is Clinton?

Wonderful pictures!
The Lab is McCain!
I couldn't see the coyote close enough to tell whether it's a bitch or not.

re: #74 Spiny Norman

Also here in Arizona, before they changed the precincts around, J.D. almost got beat by 110% of the Indian Reservations voting.

re: #79 realwest

ROFL! Gee do you think he'll move his office out of Harlem now?!

Actually, I wouldn't be too surprised if he did!

re: #78 Killian Bundy Hey Killian - first of all I'm with you - I'm all in cash if Obama wins POTUS and secondly I wonder how Michigan and Florida would vote in the General Election if the Dems don't seat their delegates?!

re: #16 zombie

I sure wish that Ben Stein had used his talent and energy to make a film about Leftist indoctrination on campus instead.

re: #78 Killian Bundy

They'll never get it past the credential committee's Obama members teamed up with 25 Dean members.

/to save face, they'll probably come up with some type of face saving deal to seat delegates from the two States but not threaten Obama's nomination

A lawsuit does NOT require that.

re: #86 Ringo the Gringo

I sure wish that Ben Stein had used his talent and energy to make a film about Leftist indoctrination on campus instead.

Me too.

re: #86 Ringo the Gringo

There is this one on that topic.

re: #88 zombie

Me too.

Make that three of us.

re: #56 Spiny Norman

Unless, of course, the Michigan and Florida delegates somehow get seated, then it'd be a free-for-all.

If Hilary stays in a the DNC gets the FL delegates sre: #85 realwest

Hey Killian - first of all I'm with you - I'm all in cash if Obama wins POTUS and secondly I wonder how Michigan and Florida would vote in the General Election if the Dems don't seat their delegates?!

Very interesting. I wouldn't be suprized if they vote fro McAmnesty since he seem to want to agree with them.

re: #81 Opilio

When all is said and done, it looks like she'll win Indiana by about 20-25000 votes... about 2%. She won by more than that in Texas, but Obama ended up with more Texas delegates.

She needed to win by close to double digits and not get drubbed in NC.

/Texas was a weird hybrid primary/caucus State, Clinton won the primary vote, Obama won the caucuses

re: #89 rawmuse

There is this one on that topic.

Hey! I'll have to check that out further.
Looks interesting.

re: #89 rawmuse

I've meant to see that one...I'll check and see if it's available on netflix.

re: #71 realwest

Just can't see Hillary getting the delegates... that is why I posted ickes' comment earlier (on the other thread.) Her own guy admitted that even if the MI and FL delegates were seated Hillary would still need in the vincinity of 150 more delegates.

I just can't imagine the remaining uncommitted superdelegates going against the trend. Sure, even if Hillary technically won IN by 20,000 votes, that is still much closer than some had thought it would be.

Even former Clinton cabinet members (who are superdelegates) have drifted from the fold...

Anyway, long time ago (2007) I thought that Clinton was the odds on favorite and that their political machine would deliver for them. However, Obama has surprised us. Guy has got charisma and more importantly - hair (which most of the older white guys running for office lack.)

So onward and upward to the general election.

Speaking of which, I have yet to figure out how much relevance to give to Newt's latest rant.

re: #93 wolfie

Hey! I'll have to check that out further.
Looks interesting.

That is a bright, young man who made that movie, he deserves our support.
And, no, it is not me. Although I did want to do the score, but we decided I was not the right guy. They wanted that heavy-metal, shredder stuff.

re: #88 zombie

Me too.

Thirded. If he did i have an excellent prof that could be used. He is all for open discussion in his History classes, unless you disagree with him. If you try to bring facts out, say on taxs, gas prices, Iraq/terrorism, etc he will just call the propaganda and move on.

re: #92 Killian Bundy
Yeah, I still don't understand that Texas vote/delegate allotment at all.
But Hillary truly expected to get drubbed down here in N.C. - waaay too many Black voters for her to overcome.
And I still don't see why, when "racism" is raised, nobody in the fucking media, including Fox, talks about the racism of MORE than 90% of Black voters in all the primaries voted for Obama? Is that a taboo subject?!

zombie,

Ben Stein, who thinks creationism should be given equal time in science classes alongside evolutionary biology.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but from what I've heard, that is not an accurate description of Stein's views.

Six words that might terrify Obama:

Rezko:

"I want to make a deal."

re: #97 mattm

When most colleges have tenured professors like Ayres, not much of other side of coin is taught or allowed.

re: #98 realwest

And I still don't see why, when "racism" is raised, nobody in the fucking media, including Fox, talks about the racism of MORE than 90% of Black voters in all the primaries voted for Obama? Is that a taboo subject?!

In a word, yes. In Journalism school they are taught that minorities are incapable of being racist.

re: #95 freetoken Oh I understand what you're saying, I'm just saying I think she'll hang in there for the floor fight that I feel is coming!
Real question is: Will Obama offer her VP? and if he does, will she take it?
Watch the MSM spin it that way - that if she doesn't take VP slot she's hurting the Dem party chances.
But again, do you think Obama would offer the VP slot to her?

re: #86 Ringo the Gringo

I sure wish that Ben Stein had used his talent and energy to make a film about Leftist indoctrination on campus instead.

It's already been done.

Indoctrinate U

/see also: Indoctrination U:The Left's War Against Academic Freedom

Obama's Indiana strength was primarily Marion county (Indianapolis). He won the largest county by his largest margin (67-33). Clinton won the rest of the state 54-46 (even including Gary).

Indiana vote, by county

re: #98 realwest

Yeah, I still don't understand that Texas vote/delegate allotment at all.
But Hillary truly expected to get drubbed down here in N.C. - waaay too many Black voters for her to overcome.
And I still don't see why, when "racism" is raised, nobody in the fucking media, including Fox, talks about the racism of MORE than 90% of Black voters in all the primaries voted for Obama? Is that a taboo subject?!

Yes.

re: #80 Spiny Norman

A floor fight in the convention center and riots outside in the streets...

_Tee-hee!

Lordy, I'm glad I live downwind of Denver. (Salt Lake, if anyone's wondering.)

Night folks.

Hillary cancels all media tomorrow

LINK

re: #105 Opilio

That's an awful lot of red. Just goes to show the big cities, by hook or by crook elect most of our officials.

re: #101 jainphx

When most colleges have tenured professors like Ayres, not much of other side of coin is taught or allowed.

I have problems with the tenure system. You can't fire downright incompetents, for one thing. On the other hand, as someone who has done a lot of teaching in colleges on a part-time (non-tenured) basis, I sure wish I had it. I feel tremendous pressure to not make waves...to put it gently.

re: #98 realwest

But Hillary truly expected to get drubbed down here in N.C. - waaay too many Black voters for her to overcome.
And I still don't see why, when "racism" is raised, nobody in the media, including Fox, talks about the racism of MORE than 90% of Black voters in all the primaries voted for Obama? Is that a taboo subject?!

NC has lost almost all of its furniture jobs, and all of its Textile jobs.
And people blame Bill Clinton for the NAFTA and World Trade.
Other states only recently discovered what a recession is,
NC has had one for 10 frigging years.

Hitler could have beat Clinton in NC.

/probably did?

McCain had better get his shit together on these World Charade deals,
Or keep his Senate day job.

re: #103 realwest

My mind cannot get wrapped around the idea of Hillary being Obama's VP. Sorry, just can't go there, all I get is "does not compute" on the output tape...

Seriously, think about what Obama would want with Hillary? He'd be constantly dogged by Bill's shadow.

Rather, I suspect Obama will look for some milquetoast governor that can reach out to older white Americans.

Well it's really late for me so I'm going to sleep!
I'll leave the thread about Ben Stein and his film and all the baggage that will be repeated over and over from all the other threads we've had on ID for y'all to play with.
It's been grand, I hope you all have a GREAT NIGHT/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

re: #110 wolfie

Tenure is great if the right people, that is deserving people, are tenured.

re: #105 Opilio

Obama's Indiana strength was primarily Marion county (Indianapolis). He won the largest county by his largest margin (67-33). Clinton won the rest of the state 54-46 (even including Gary).

Indiana vote, by county

Is that green square south of Indy perhaps Bloomington (U Indiana)?

re: #108 RTLM

Hillary cancels all media tomorrow

LINK

Bad choice.

She needs to be out there screaming about voter fraud at the top of her lungs in front of any and every camera that she can find.

I'm falling asleep.

Good night peoples.

OK, I added this sentence to the end of my Expelled protester posting, to clarify things:

There are many aspects of the left-wing bias in Berkeley’s liberal arts departments that merit criticism — but insisting that the school’s world-class science departments abandon their fundamental principles is the wrong way to confront the problem.

re: #113 realwest

Sleep tight, realwest!

re: #116 Syrah

Bad choice.

She needs to be out there screaming about voter fraud at the top of her lungs in front of any and every camera that she can find.

Voter fraud? Do you mean the Rush Limbaugh thing?

re: #43 rawmuse

Is INDIANA a "winner take all" state? or do they divide delegates?

re: #53 realwest

IIRC, they divide delegates the way they have in other primaries.

Divide.
Good site here for following elections: Political Dashboard

Obama doesn't need a token white.

His best bet is a female whatever, or a Hispanic either, or an Asian either...

IMHO

re: #120 RTLM

Voter fraud? Do you mean the Rush Limbaugh thing?

No. Operation chaos is completely and totally legitimate. It is real voters casting real votes.

She needs to be complaining about what was happening in Gary.

re: #122 slokat

Obama doesn't need a token white.

His best bet is a female whatever, or a Hispanic either, or an Asian either...

IMHO

Ask Hillary is she will take the job now?

yo

re: #114 jainphx

Tenure is great if the right people, that is deserving people, are tenured.

That's the problem.
But once you get a bunch of lefties in control of a department, they make all the hiring and tenure decisions.

I'd have to say that what bothers me most is all of the tenured professors who do not agree with the state of affairs but say nothing. They are too afraid of being unpopular. It's one thing to be a mouse when your job's on the line, but when it isn't, why not fight for what you believe?

re: #13 Syrah

I recommend tequila.

It will not only make you forget today, it will make you forget the whole darned week.

i'll have to try it again... it's never w*rked that way for me.

/maybe i should try 3 or 4 bottles?

if, if, long night.

re: #123 Syrah

No. Operation chaos is completely and totally legitimate. It is real voters casting real votes.

She needs to be complaining about what was happening in Gary.

Well, I'm dumb... what's happening in Gary?

(looks around)

re: #99 Ringo the Gringo

zombie,

I haven't seen the movie yet, but from what I've heard, that is not an accurate description of Stein's views.

I think it's implied. He says that teachers who discuss creationism are ostracized -- which he portrays as a bad thing. Hence, the implication is that they shouldn't be ostracized...with the inevitable consequence that their views will end up getting taught in the classroom.

re: #27 Killian Bundy

Geez, someone put the troll on the blue collar thread out of it's misery, it's the only humane thing to do.

/now it's lamely taunting Christians

and being mocked by the recovering catholic %-)

re: #126 redc1c4

i'll have to try it again... it's never w*rked that way for me.

/maybe i should try 3 or 4 bottles?

I find that it is easier to drink when out with friends.

3 margarita grandes and I am out like a light.

re: #125 wolfie

Well said, you'll get no argument from me. Most of todays higher learning is controlled by the left. Right leaning profs, are afraid for their jobs, unfortunately.

re: #123 Syrah

No. Operation chaos is completely and totally legitimate. It is real voters casting real votes.

She needs to be complaining about what was happening in Gary.

What happened in Gary was waaay to suspicious to be legit. I guess they couldn't stuff ballots fat enough. Anyone know about the mayor's political associations.

re: #122 slokat

Obama doesn't need a token white.

His best bet is a female whatever, or a Hispanic either, or an Asian either...

IMHO

I'm sticking with my prediction of Bob Casey of PA.
He's actually pretty much of an empty suit, but no one knows that. They confuse him with his father.

re: #128 RTLM

Well, I'm dumb... what's happening in Gary?

(looks around)

They almost pulled off a King County vote special. No proof of course, but she needs to make sure that people are keeping an eye out for that stuff. The only way to do it is to scream bloody murder when the political powers involved in the counting process, like the mayor, are declaring victory for the other candidate while drawing the count out late into the night.

Its like when the football coaches scream at the refs from the side lines. Half the game is keeping the refs on their toes.

re: #129 savage_nation

Hey savage, where are you hiding tonight?

Morning all, night shift checking in. Is it popcorn time yet?

re: #136 Syrah

Hillery talking about voter fraud, would be the kettle calling the pot.

re: #136 Syrah

They almost pulled off a King County vote special. No proof of course, but she needs to make sure that people are keeping an eye out for that stuff. The only way to do it is to scream bloody murder when the political powers involved in the counting process, like the mayor, are declaring victory for the other candidate while drawing the count out late into the night.

Its like when the football coaches scream at the refs from the side lines. Half the game is keeping the refs on their toes.

Ah - OK

re: #131 redc1c4

and being mocked by the recovering catholic %-)

That was a really bizarre, albeit really lame troll, not afraid to post utter nonsense.

/some trolls like to move the goalposts, this one couldn't even figure out what game it wanted to try and play

And thanks!

re: #130 zombie

He says that teachers who discuss creationism are ostracized -- which he portrays as a bad thing.

Does he use the word "creationism"?...As I said, I have not seen the film so I feel kind of strange talking about it.

re: #139 jainphx

Hillery talking about voter fraud, would be the kettle calling the pot.

When has hypocrisy ever gotten in the way of a Democrat before?

I'm AmeriDan... and I'm reporting for night shift duty too.

re: #138 BlueCanuck

Morning all, night shift checking in. Is it popcorn time yet?

No, but Syrah is buying drinks for everyone!
I got me a mojito! Yummy!

re: #144 Syrah

No I meant she would open herself up to investigation. They both know what happened and where, just one was better at it.

re: #135 wolfie

I'm sticking with my prediction of Bob Casey of PA.
He's actually pretty much of an empty suit, but no one knows that. They confuse him with his father.

Bill Richardson, because he's hispanic, but doesn't look it.

Red - ke sera sera...

re: #147 savage_nation

Tooele UT. 10 miles from my delivery and the bozos wont take the freight until 5pm tomorrow. So here I sit.

/FUCK WALMART!

I hear motorhomers like to park at walmart.

re: #147 savage_nation

Tooele UT. 10 miles from my delivery and the bozos wont take the freight until 5pm tomorrow. So here I sit.

/FUCK WALMART!

Look at the bright side- you get to enlighten us with your brilliance!

re: #146 wolfie

Really? I will take the large cappuccino, extra froth.

/working so no alcohol for me.

re: #148 savage_nation

was it euthanized like a rabid dog?

No, so far Stinky hasn't clubbed it like a baby seal.

/probably not to sure to make of it's avatar

re: #149 jainphx

No I meant she would open herself up to investigation. They both know what happened and where, just one was better at it.

True enough. The problem is that she can't afford to make it to easy for the other side. She can't worry too much about having the finger pointed back at her. That will happen anyway.

Besides, this is the kind of confrontation that would make her look strong and make Obama look metrosexual.

re: #148 savage_nation

Savage just curios when you gas up what does it run you

re: #108 RTLM Ah, my last post tonight! I went to your link and posted the following on the comments section:

"Well ya know this is really sorta funny. Bill will now move his office out of Harlem and SOONER OR LATER folks are gonna realize that Obama's winning 90+% of the Black vote in EVERY primary is racist in and of itself. Obama won't offer VP to Hillary and Hillary wouldn't accept VP if it was offered - this is a very bad day for the Democratic Party."

Just thought I'd throw a little hand grenade in the middle of all of the CONGRATULATE Obama comments! And man, they were harsher towards Hillary than we've ever been!
GOOD NIGHT Y'ALL.

re: #156 Killian Bundy

No, so far Stinky hasn't clubbed it like a baby seal.

/probably not to sure to make of it's avatar

Urkel?

re: #157 savage_nation

hehhe, well I will try...

Have to pay a lumper there?

The pedigree of honey
Does not concern the bee;
A clover, any time, to him
Is aristocracy

Oddly enough, in Hawaii it does. Macadamia nut honey does not crystallize. Wild honey has the best flavor.

re: #1 buzzsawmonkey

Me go home. Me sign off.

That's a heck of a first post on a thread.

re: #161 realwest

"They played the race card on me"

Bill

(heh)

re: #143 Ringo the Gringo

Does he use the word "creationism"?...As I said, I have not seen the film so I feel kind of strange talking about it.

No, he says "intelligent design" -- which I, and a lot of other people, see as nothing but a transparent euphemism for creationism.

re: #154 BlueCanuck

Really? I will take the large cappuccino, extra froth.

/working so no alcohol for me.

One drunk drink won't hurt.

re: #150 Bob in Breckenridge

Bill Richardson, because he's hispanic, but doesn't look it.

Possible. Possible.
I think he has to pick a (nominally) Catholic white male from a Rust Belt state.

re: #167 savage_nation

I sure hope your load payed, That is one hell of a bite out of the pocket book.

Relax, Lord Obama is going to "perfect America".

/and yes, he actually said that tonight

Speaking of seals - someone shot a half dozen seals up in Washington & someone else shot three elephant seals in the head at close range here in San Simeon on the beach while they were molting...

re: #154 BlueCanuck

Really? I will take the large cappuccino, extra froth.

/working so no alcohol for me.

Trying to get sleepy, so no coffee for me.
Does sound good, though!

re: #167 savage_nation

I can max out on 200 gallons, 110 gallon tank on each side, 90% capacity. I fueled up here in SLC last week and it cost exactly $851.22

Geez. 4.26 a gallon. Glad I got out of the trucking industry.

re: #156 Killian Bundy

No, so far Stinky hasn't clubbed it like a baby seal.

/probably not to sure to make of it's avatar

Victoria's Secret !?

Goodnight all, remember Tomorrow is a new day.Live everyday as if it is your last.

re: #175 wolfie

Nothing beats a good Italian cappuccino. Well maybe a portugeuse one.

/must be brewed by one of the afore said nationallity.

re: #174 slokat

Speaking of seals - someone shot a half dozen seals up in Washington & someone else shot three elephant seals in the head at close range here in San Simeon on the beach while they were molting...

That's so sad. Hope they catch the scumbags.

re: #115 wolfie

Is that green square south of Indy perhaps Bloomington (U Indiana)?

Yes, I believe it is. Obama won there 66-34. Second only to his Indianapolis margin.

I threw together a 3-state, by county map, of Obama-Clinton in Indiana-Ohio-Pennsylvania.

Quite a pattern.

re: #177 wolfie

Victoria's Secret !?

/one of Lord Obama's front line soldiers in America's war on terror

re: #100 solomonpanting

Six words that might terrify Obama:

Rezko:

"I want to make a deal."

why make a deal when you can wait for the pardon?

re: #179 savage_nation

I'm not privy to the rates since I'm only a company driver but if I were the owner op, I would charge $2.25 a mile and 20 bucks per hour delay time.

I don't work for nothing, no way.

/Wait until BHO is elected! :)

re: #179 savage_nation

We have a small messenger co. here, very hard to get drivers anymore. One driver been around a long time , has seen gas bill take more than 30% of his pay. Try to help with gas surcharge to customer, but how much more can we charge, before the customer quits.

re: #108 RTLM

Hillary cancels all media tomorrow

LINK

gotta be in court to file challenges?

/just a (happy %-) thought

re: #182 Opilio

What on earth is that green square east of South Bend? There's no city or school there. A state mental hospital? Penitentiary? Extraterrestrial colony? ?

re: #183 Killian Bundy

/one of Lord Obama's front line soldiers in America's war on terror

ROFL :D

re: #191 wolfie

Cemetery!

re: #193 jainphx

Cemetery!

:O !

re: #184 redc1c4

why make a deal when you can wait for the pardon?

Problem is, he could be waiting...and waiting...

re: #147 savage_nation

Tooele UT. 10 miles from my delivery and the bozos wont take the freight until 5pm tomorrow. So here I sit.

/FUCK WALMART!

you could drive around and take random samples looking for chemical weapon residue...

/local sport

re: #194 wolfie

Thats where most Democrapic votes come from.

Hillary wins a squeaker in IN. Doesn't look great, but even had she done better Obama would still end up ahead in delegates, along with the murkiness around the popular vote. That's not the issue; Hillary will argue that based on the demographics she's a stronger candidate in Nov. These two state merely continued the same pattern with their respective voter blocks.

re: #148 savage_nation

was it euthanized like a rabid dog?

beaten like a King pinata...

/no candy inside, unfortunately

re: #195 savage_nation

That, my friend, are the Studebaker Trees.

Studebaker Trees

WOW !

re: #154 BlueCanuck

Really? I will take the large cappuccino, extra froth.

/working so no alcohol for me.

more for me.

"w*rk is the curse of the drinking class"

re: #156 Killian Bundy

No, so far Stinky hasn't clubbed it like a baby seal.

/probably not to sure to make of it's avatar

Seal, as a baby?

re: #191 wolfie

What on earth is that green square east of South Bend? There's no city or school there. A state mental hospital? Penitentiary? Extraterrestrial colony? ?

Elkhart. I don't know anything about it except that the Selmer saxophone factory was and maybe still is there. I'm guessing a large black population.

re: #189 savage_nation

Our rates are stretched to the limit. Razor slim margins at this time.

My former employer (who shall remain nameless) reset the governors on their company tractors from 68 to 62 MPH.

Gotta put these old bones to bed night all.

Hello lizards and I apologize if someone already noted this, as I am just jumping in now, but an excellent op-ed by Richard Holbrooke in today's WaPost about the creation of Israel. I confess I haven't followed Holbrooke closely enough to know his track record, but the piece is excellent.

re: #199 neocon hippie

"continued the same pattern with their respective voter blocks."

Whites voting for Hillary = Racist
Blacks voting for Obama = Empowered

I am giving up for the night.

I will need to earn enough money to pay for some gasoline. Might take all week.

Goodnight all.

re: #174 slokat

Speaking of seals - someone shot a half dozen seals up in Washington & someone else shot three elephant seals in the head at close range here in San Simeon on the beach while they were molting...

hope the wardens do the same when they catch them...

re: #191 wolfie

What on earth is that green square east of South Bend? There's no city or school there. A state mental hospital? Penitentiary? Extraterrestrial colony? ?

That would be Elkhart county, home of Elkhart and Goshen. (?)

Obama took it 59-41

re: #207 jainphx

Goodnight, jainphx !

re: #185 savage_nation

It's $4.59 here right now. The controller sent a message on the qualcomm warning us that he has word diesel prices might hit $6.00 a gallon by Labor Day.

You heard it here first...

That's the perfect time for the GOP to sledgehammer the dimocrats, right before the election, since this is all because of their alliance with the radical environmentalists, who continually block us from drilling for oil here in the USA.

If we could drill in ANWR, it would be in a ridiculously small area. To give everyone here an idea, take a quarter, and put it in the middle of a 9 foot by 12 foot rug. that would be the area affected, and after we're done, you'd never know we were there...

re: #210 Syrah

I am giving up for the night.

I will need to earn enough money to pay for some gasoline. Might take all week.

Goodnight all.

Goodnight, Syrah! And thanks for the mojito!

re: #203 redc1c4

Agreed. But if I didn't work, I wouldn't have an excuse to drink.

/wait, who needs an excuse?
//Yo tarbender, make mine a triple.

zombie,

No, he says "intelligent design" -- which I, and a lot of other people, see as nothing but a transparent euphemism for creationism.

I don't think it is at all, which is why discussions on the subject never get anywhere. Both sides (actually there are at least three sides in this debate) are speaking different languages.

I believe in God. I also believe in evolution. So, therefore I believe in intelligent design.

I definitely do not believe in a literal (Biblical) understanding of creation, which is what I understand the term "creationism" to mean.

So when I here someone using the terms intelligent design and creationism interchangeably (be it a religious fundamentalist or an atheist), it seems to me that they are (both) being being a bit dishonest...trying to pervert the true intention of the term intelligent design.

Does that make sense?

re: #182 Opilio

Yes, I believe it is. Obama won there 66-34. Second only to his Indianapolis margin.

I threw together a 3-state, by county map, of Obama-Clinton in Indiana-Ohio-Pennsylvania.

Quite a pattern.

Very interesting. Looks like Hillary is the Bush of the Democratic Party!

Wins all the big, rural counties -- loses the urban inner cities.

re: #212 Opilio

That would be Elkhart county, home of Elkhart and Goshen. (?)

Obama took it 59-41

Goshen. Quaker college. Very...mmm...kumbaya.

re: #215 savage_nation

Heres some information on it, it's in a place called Bendix Woods.

That was the original test track.

Huh, that earlier pic wasn't a photoshop?

re: #217 BlueCanuck

See the bartender. He has the credit card. He will take your orders.

hitting the sack.

re: #35 JimmyTheClaw

[Link: www.ibogleif.dk...]

mini-put golf fun and addicting best score yet is 31

First try: 64 This could be addictive...

re: #215 savage_nation

That is really interesting! Looks like it might be a beautiful park, too.

Zombie, have you heard of the Single Neuron Theory of Consciousness? It is by a doctor board certified in Neurology and Psychiatry which applies Quantum Mechanics to the mind brain problem.

re: #205 neocon hippie

Elkhart. I don't know anything about it except that the Selmer saxophone factory was and maybe still is there. I'm guessing a large black population.

Heh. If we vote for a white person because they're white, we're racists. But if blacks vote for BHO because he's black it's...what?

re: #196 solomonpanting

Problem is, he could be waiting...and waiting...

It's a pretty good bet, barring some type of near miracle.

/the Bonkeys, after seven years and two frustrating elections, are crazed, frothing at the mouth, and highly motivated to crawl over two blocks of broken glass to elect a bag of cat litter, if that's the Bonkey nominee, meanwhile, the Republicans are still having trouble getting excited about McCain and he hasn't been helping his own cause lately

re: #208 Bacchus's daddy

Hello lizards and I apologize if someone already noted this, as I am just jumping in now, but an excellent op-ed by Richard Holbrooke in today's WaPost about the creation of Israel. I confess I haven't followed Holbrooke closely enough to know his track record, but the piece is excellent.

Holbrooke= LIB LOSER.

re: #204 redc1c4

Seal, as a baby?

I don't know.

/all I can say is the purple sweater and pink background make for good color coordination

re: #219 zombie

Very interesting. Looks like Hillary is the Bush of the Democratic Party!

Wins all the big, rural counties -- loses the urban inner cities.

But not only does she win the rural counties, she wins them by margins of 20, 30, up to 50%. Obama's wins are narrower, but obviously in the more populous counties.

Hillary, the BullDyke Leather Freak, is being shitcanned by every Dem under the age of 50. Hmmm They would rather elect an anti-American nut case than the witch.

re: #226 Bob in Breckenridge

Heh. If we vote for a white person because they're white, we're racists. But if blacks vote for BHO because he's black it's...what?

empowerment. liberation. PROGRESSIVE!

re: #230 savage_nation

Amazing.

I second Wolfie's "WOW"

re: #208 Bacchus's daddy

If so, that's very good to hear! Holbrooke is pretty predictably left-wing.

re: #226 Bob in Breckenridge

Heh. If we vote for a white person because they're white, we're racists. But if blacks vote for BHO because he's black it's...what?

You need to remember that the "progressive" mode of thought requires the reversal of definition. Thus behavior that is objectively identified as racist is seen by the progressive mind as non-racist. This may also explain their constant rejection of the civilization and their pining for the stone age.

re: #226 Bob in Breckenridge

Heh. If we vote for a white person because they're white, we're racists. But if blacks vote for BHO because he's black it's...what?

re: #209 AmeriDan

"continued the same pattern with their respective voter blocks."

Whites voting for Hillary = Racist
Blacks voting for Obama = Empowered

re: #234 savage_nation

CHANGE!

Ron Paul!

I just think that Obama is someone that thinks that America needs reconstruction.

re: #233 Opilio

empowerment. liberation. PROGRESSIVE!

Deciding important matters based on emotion instead of reason and letting distant and indifferent politicians have more say in your day-to-day affairs...now that's progressive...

/oh yea...they sell auto insurance, too.

re: #234 savage_nation

Tooele, eh? Don't have too much fun. Maybe you could swing by Kennecot Mine. It's seriously impressive. Especially when they set off an explosion on the other side of the mine and you wait 10 seconds before you can hear it.

Nytol! Tomorrow is another day. And maybe a bad one for Herself.

re: #219 zombie

Very interesting. Looks like Hillary is the Bush of the Democratic Party!

Wins all the big, rural counties -- loses the urban inner cities.

That might be correct, zombie. But if you look at from the way the electoral college is set, Hillary wins way more votes than Obama. Obama tends to win the smaller states with few electoral votes, other than Illinois, his home state, while Hillary wins NY, TX, CA, PA, OH, and MI and FL if they were counted.

re: #228 Bob in Breckenridge

Holbrooke= LIB LOSER.

I thought I vaguely remembered that about him, which was why i was surprised by his column. Check it out and you'll see that he drinks Kool-Aid, at most, only 90% of the time.

funny political cartoon

re: #240 rawmuse

I just think that Obama is someone that thinks that America needs reconstruction.

The trouble with reconstruction is that it requires destruction first.
And that part usually works well.

re: #241 savage_nation

I originally found out about the Studebaker Trees when I stopped the truck right next to that park to take a wizz and a cop stopped me to berate me. We got to chatting it up and he told me that the grove of trees spelled out STUDEBAKER and I thought he was full of crap. Well, he wasnt.

Ain't that the way it goes? You can't wait any longer and pull over by a bunch of trees... that happen to be a regional landmark... sounds like my kinda luck.

re: #248 redc1c4

funny political cartoon

:D Yeow!

re: #247 savage_nation

I'm actually thinking of running over to Saltair and look at that indoor swimming pool. The one in that Arabic looking building.

Yeah, that's pretty cool too. I stopped by there once on a drive out to Sacramento. Here it is in Carnival of Souls at 46:25. Don't get your hopes too high though. It's pretty run down if you can even get inside. And I've never heard of a swimming pool inside. I could be wrong though.

re: #248 redc1c4

looks like bush = carpet muncher?

/just saying

re: #246 Bacchus's daddy

I thought I vaguely remembered that about him, which was why i was surprised by his column. Check it out and you'll see that he drinks Kool-Aid, at most, only 90% of the time.

Just a suggestion- Post a link to whatever you're referring to.

re: #223 sngnsgt

First try: 64 This could be addictive...

2nd try: 44

re: #253 slokat

looks like bush = carpet muncher?

/just saying

you have a sick mind...

(i like that in a person. %-)

re: #218 Ringo the Gringo

Does that make sense?

Yes.

But it's not like there is one accurate definition of "intelligent design" and two mendacious intentional misdefinitions. There are simply three different groups arguing over what it means. Since the phrase is a recent invention, there is no traditional "correct" meaning.

Actually, there are only two different real meanings being fought over. Both the religious fundamentalists AND the atheists agree that it basically has the same meaning as "creationism" used to have. It's the "Can't we all just get along?" middle-of-the-road reasonable types (such as you, I suppose) who want it to mean "God created the universe at the beginning of time and also the laws of nature and just let them work their magic -- in a way we now term "evolution"; but since God created the laws of nature to begin with, everything exhibits his 'intelligent design.'" I actually have no problem with that belief system, since the theological aspects of it impinge only on the parts that have no bearing on science (i.e. questions like "Where did the universe come from to begin with?' As an agnostic, my answer is, "How the hell do I know?")

But there's plenty of evidence floating around that the term "intelligent design" was originally dreamt up by actual creationists to hide their true intentions, since the term "creationism" had already lost any panache it might have had. Slap a new label on it, and it's a new idea. What's strange about the story is that the name was hijacked not by extremists, but by moderates, who now use "intelligent design" to describe their not-unscientific moderate stance that God created the universe and then let it run according to his original plan. But the creationists are hoping to get "intelligent design" introduced into classrooms as a Trojan Horse to bring back real honest-to-God creationism into schools. In fact, they say as much, openly.

Why is it that most "intelligent design" proponents actively try to challenge evolutionary theory? If they believed as you believe, they'd feel no need to challenge it.

re: #246 Bacchus's daddy

I thought I vaguely remembered that about him, which was why i was surprised by his column. Check it out and you'll see that he drinks Kool-Aid, at most, only 90% of the time.

I mean post a link rather than making everyone search for it.

zombie,

Two books worth reading:

The Hidden Face of God by Gerald L. Schroeder

There Is a God by Anthony Flew & Roy Abraham Varghese

I was an atheist for 20 years and I have great respect for the atheist perspective, which is why I never try to change anyones minds. The problem with the discussions regarding ID that I've seen here (and elsewhere) is that neither side can even agree on the meanings of the words that are used; everyone simply talks past each other.

I really do have to go to bed now.

Goodnight all.

OK, below is the link. With Holbrooke being, I guess, a card-carrying lefty, Kos might not be happy about this one (to say nothing about CAIR and their PLO overlords). With some folks, unfortunately, Holbrooke saying this carries more weight than Mark Steyn or Spencer.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Night Ringo...

re: #225 Ornery Ballsack

Zombie, have you heard of the Single Neuron Theory of Consciousness? It is by a doctor board certified in Neurology and Psychiatry which applies Quantum Mechanics to the mind brain problem.

Interesting! Never heard of it before.

A lot of fall-down drunks can testify that it is still possible to think with only one functioning neuron.

re: #248 redc1c4

funny political cartoon

I don't get it. Especially when carpet muncher is thrown in.

Please explain (simple words only).

re: #227 Killian Bundy

It's a pretty good bet, barring some type of near miracle.

/the Bonkeys, after seven years and two frustrating elections, are crazed, frothing at the mouth, and highly motivated to crawl over two blocks of broken glass to elect a bag of cat litter, if that's the Bonkey nominee, meanwhile, the Republicans are still having trouble getting excited about McCain and he hasn't been helping his own cause lately

OTOH, Obama may be trounced in the General. A lot can happen in six months.

re: #263 zombie

Interesting! Never heard of it before.

A lot of fall-down drunks can testify that it is still possible to think with only one functioning neuron.

I can attest to many trying.

re: #259 savage_nation

I still gotta go see it even if its a empty shell. I love old architecture, in fact, I almost went to architecture school at Cal Poly Pomona back when I was 18

It's definitely worth it just to look at the architecture. It's still got the castle entrance to it as well as you may have seen in the movie clip. Gimme a sec and I'll upload some video I have of it.

re: #248 redc1c4

funny political cartoon

LOL

Hillary/McCain 08

re: #263 zombie

One of the questions it raises is that if there are multiple consciousnesses in the brain, which one is you? Or which one has a soul? Split Brain Studies seem to validate this theory.