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 RetweetDaily Kos: Bush a 'Classic Psychopath,' Republicans in General Even Worse

Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:07:52 pm PDT

The Kos Kids are doing that lovable armchair analysis thing again, demonstrating with relentless logic that George Bush Fits Clinical Profile of a Psychopath to a Tee.

The research of Dr. Hervey Cleckley and Dr. Robert Hare exploring the personality and character traits of psychopaths, when applied to George Bush, shows that he fits exactly the profile they developed for a classic psychopath. It’s uncanny.

The study also showed that “Republicanism” as political and social ideology... is even worse than psychopathy.

It’s almost cute how they periodically try to convince each other that Republicans aren’t just wrong, they’re hideous psychotic murdering beasts. Or worse.

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1 WrathofG-d  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:09:01pm

Guilty as Charged!

2 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:09:16pm
3 Sharmuta  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:09:22pm

I believe it's called "projection".

/tossin' the psychoanalysis right back atcha

4 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:09:33pm

Thank You!

5 mama winger  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:09:54pm

I are crazy for not wanting crazy people to kill me and destroy my country ? ok

6 JammieWearingFool  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:10:02pm
The study also showed that “Republicanism” as political and social ideology... is even worse than psychopathy.

Thanks for the diagnosis.

Now where do I go to get help?

7 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:10:15pm

Sorry, this kind of monster is scarier than any Republican I have yet to meet.

8 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:10:19pm

re: #5 mama winger

I are crazy for not wanting crazy people to kill me and destroy my country ? ok

Crazy like a fox.

10 JammieWearingFool  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:11:03pm

Clearly this is designed to unite us all on the path to glorious change.

11 WhiteRasta  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:11:23pm

Yes. I'm crazy and I have my left thumb on an ICBM launcher button.

Be afraid. Be very afraid...


BWAAAHAHAHAH!

12 mama winger  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:11:27pm

Conservatism is actually the only political philosophy that makes common sense, follows the constitution, and brings about the greater good for the greatest number of people.

13 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:12:45pm

re: #11 WhiteRasta

Yes. I'm crazy and I have my left thumb on an ICBM launcher button.

Be afraid. Be very afraid...


BWAAAHAHAHAH!

I guess your left handed, because when I am on duty, I usually have my right thumb on the button.

14 Kaitian868  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:12:50pm

So, people who votes for conservatism or Republicans is a psychopath?

15 WrathofG-d  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:13:10pm

America...if loving you is wrong...I don't want to be right.

16 jaynumber13  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:13:24pm

If you adjust your perceptions the proper way, anyone can fit this profile. I can fit Obama into these parameters.

This is almost on par with the vagueness of horoscopes. Kos Kids are idiots.

17 Sharmuta  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:13:28pm

I think the koslings should research narcissists next. I'm sure they'll find it a fascinating subject, since it revolves around them.

18 DaMishMan  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:13:30pm

I love how the Kos Kidz always find new ways to make themselves even more irrelevant. Still, I must agree with the Lizard Boss...it's so cute when they show just how reality challenged they really are.

19 zombie  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:13:34pm

They got this idea from George Lakoff, who has based his career on psychoanalyzing the mysterious beast known as "The Conservative."

Some decent info on his insulting propositions here.

He is considered a top Democratic "deep strategist," and may be personally responsible for George Bush's 8 years in office, since he led the Dems off the cliff.

20 mama winger  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:13:49pm

re: #14 Kaitian868

So, people who votes for conservatism or Republicans is a psychopath?

Yes, and we are also known to pick our teeth and scratch our behinds in public.

21 rawmuse  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:13:54pm

"You are all a bunch of racists and nazis! And since dissent is the highest form of patriotism, and the highest form of dissent is treason, if you don't join us in treason, then you are not patriots."

/whatever...

22 Brian Smaller  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:14:08pm

re: #5 mama winger

I are crazy for not wanting crazy people to kill me and destroy my country ? ok

Not crazy. Just grammatically challenged.

23 Shug  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:14:09pm

Their diagnosis confirms their own diagnosis of Bush Derangement Syndrome

24 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:14:14pm
25 bluegrassredstate  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:14:19pm

and the splodydopes are just expressing their angst over being oppressed by the west . . .

26 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:14:35pm

re: #15 WrathofG-d

America...if loving you is wrong...I don't want to be right.

That is definitely Bumper Sticker material. Great!

27 mama winger  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:14:37pm

re: #22 Brian Smaller

Not crazy. Just grammatically challenged.

Am too, also.

28 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:14:41pm
29 obscured by clouds  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:15:32pm
The research of Dr. Hervey Cleckley and Dr. Robert Hare...The study also showed that “Republicanism” as political and social ideology... is even worse than psychopathy.

"Doctors" Cleckley and Hale... two severely disappointed Nurse Ratchet supporters.

30 mama winger  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:15:37pm

re: #28 buzzsawmonkey

I thought I told you to stay out of the pantry.

31 Idle Drifter  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:15:56pm

Guilty as charge. How else could I create a legion of super mutant hampsters and perfect the design of the chainsaw flamethrower under the Denver International Airport?! MUUAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

32 bluegrassredstate  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:15:56pm

"would you f--- me? . . . i'd f--- me."

33 jones  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:16:25pm

Is it ethical/professional to diagnose a person who is not a patient, and who you have never analyzed?

Of course not, but being a moonbat means never having to say you're sorry.

34 Shug  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:16:40pm

Once again their very existence disproves their premise that the republicans as murderous psychopaths.

cuz

They would be the republican's first victims

35 IslandLibertarian  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:18:08pm

After many years of alcohol and drug abuse I found my way back to sanity. And one of the most important things I learned is that "The unexamined life is not worth living." BUT also "The over examined life is a royal pain in the ass!"
The Left is strung out on playing doctor. Fuck 'em!

Power to the Correct People!
(They know where to draw the line.)

36 LoFlyer  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:18:09pm

Let me see if I have this straight. We have two democrat candidates. One is a power hungry, tough as nails b-itch, and the other is a two faced kid, with a split personality, and Bush is the Psychopath? When was the last time anyone believed psychologists anyway? Freud was their poster child for a hundred years, Pavlov was a favorite, and they support drugging most of our students with Ritalin for some non-disease as "attention deficit disorder". Make your own conclusions of the validity of professional psychiatry.

37 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:18:24pm

re: #34 Shug

Once again their very existence disproves their premise that the republicans as murderous psychopaths.

cuz

They would be the republican's first victims

Oh Hell let's be honest, they wouldn't even make the top ten. You should see my list.

38 mama winger  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:18:41pm

Conservatism:

1. Work hard and keep your own money.

2. Educate yourself and be a productive citizen.

3. Take care of your own family.

4. Defend your country from enemies both foreign and domestic.

5. Hold to your values. Teach them to your children.

6. Don't expect the government to do for you what you can do for yourself.

Yep. Psychotic.

39 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:18:41pm
40 WrathofG-d  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:18:55pm

re: #34 Shug

Like the radio personalities on NPR railing against corporations the Government that doesn't allow them the right to speak.

(NPR brought to you by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and the U.S. Government)

41 Sharmuta  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:19:04pm

re: #34 Shug

Once again their very existence disproves their premise that the republicans as murderous psychopaths.

cuz

They would be the republican's first victims

Excellent point! Ironically- it is the marxists on their t-shirts who literally take out the opposition.

42 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:19:12pm

You know, the really scary part is, unless us psychopaths can get our act together, and get it together quickly, these paragons of psychological stability and moral integrity will be running roughshod over us and our beloved country for at least two years. We will be, for all intents and purposes, totally irrelevant.

/I'm talking the Presidency, the House, and a filibuster proof majority in the Senate equals Bonkey Romper Room

43 kyleb  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:19:16pm

Because crushing babies' heads, and surrendering to a death cult is the definition of sanity.

44 bluegrassredstate  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:19:17pm

attention deficit disorder? they have stupider diseases than that now . . .

restless leg syndrome?

45 derkrieger  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:19:23pm

Have the 'Kids' never been to a demonstration on campus against a Conservative speaker? Have they never witnessed demonstrations against the WTO, Doha, or any international gathering? Have they somehow missed the Code Pink activities in Berkeley?

Interesting how you never catch Conservatives behaving in any way like Lefties do yet they call US psychopathic.

46 right wing zephyr  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:19:31pm
The enemy is anybody who’s going to get you killed, no matter which side he’s on.

— Joseph Heller

47 EC Marm  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:19:38pm

Only the KosKids can disprove the old axiom about "a stopped watch being correct twice a day."

48 WrathofG-d  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:19:49pm

re: #41 Sharmuta

Sort of like the Islamist: If you call us violent we'll murder you!

49 rawmuse  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:19:53pm

re: #38 mama winger

A super list. Those are everything that the Left are not.

50 Noam Sayin'  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:20:04pm

Well, if it's uncanny, who are we to argue?

51 bluegrassredstate  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:20:27pm

"5. Hold to your values. Teach them to your children."

That's indoctrination, except for when Iranians and other assorted nutjobs do it.

52 mahatma coat  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:20:31pm

good evening all...backfrom 6 months self imposed ban

53 solomonpanting  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:20:32pm

We on the progressive left in this country have long known that our fearless-frat-boy-in-chief is (to put it simply) not wrapped too tight.

Especially when he was Governor of Texas and 'ordered' all of those executions:

Frat Boy won't be happy
Till he's seen you fryyy!
Frat Boy wouldn't mind the pain
Would always throw the main
If Frat Boy gets your ass again
Frat boy
Frat boy
Frat boy
Frat boy

54 Shug  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:20:41pm

re: #47 EC Marm

Only the KosKids can disprove the old axiom about "a stopped watch being correct twice a day."

They are broken digital clocks

55 stevieray  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:20:42pm

Sure... republicans are worse than psychopaths. Basing your beliefs on what history proves works is insane; while trying the same redistributive schemes over and over again [and failing each and every time] is enlightened! I see it now! I am cured!

/moonbats got psych 101 texts!

56 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:21:22pm

Guilty as Charged I guess. After working IT for eight years and getting screamed at constantly, then working Loans Escalations, and getting yelled at (over money so I understand), I've gotten pretty cold with people blubbering at me. Guess that makes me a psycho.

57 ajackson  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:21:23pm

George Bush isn't crazy. He just has the power to make people on the left crazy.

58 Captain Hate  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:21:31pm
The research of Dr. Hervey Cleckley and Dr. Robert Hare exploring the personality and character traits of psychopaths, when applied to George Bush, shows that he fits exactly the profile they developed for a classic psychopath

I really don't have the stomach to immerse myself in Kosfilth; is the poster talking about work these doctors did specifically in relation to Bush (which is bad enough) or did the Kosquacks take a study by the two doctors (which I'm sure they don't understand) and applied it to their skewed perceptions of Bush? Either way it's a crock.

59 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:21:48pm
60 Sharmuta  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:22:02pm

re: #54 Shug

They are broken digital clocks

The time is: 88:88.

61 Dahveed  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:22:12pm

I was going to give a whole polemic as to why I am more sane then them but then I said "screw them". I am not going to defend myself to these people.

62 mikeinmd  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:22:27pm

Their 12 step (re)program should be precious.

63 Ojoe  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:23:03pm
64 LeePro  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:23:10pm

re: #34 Shug

Once again their very existence disproves their premise that the republicans as murderous psychopaths.

cuz

They would be the republican's first victims

[Before dinner drive-by]

Your logic is EXCELLENT! ! !
/not sarc!

bbiaw

65 solomonpanting  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:23:40pm
Hare developed a system of identification for psychopaths that includes various personality and character traits:

%u2022 Parasitic lifestyle

Now there's projection!

66 rockdad  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:23:41pm

Well it's science after all, and who can argue with that?

67 LC LaWedgie  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:24:09pm
Factor1: "Aggressive narcissism"

* Glibness/superficial charm
* Grandiose sense of self-worth
* Pathological lying
* Cunning/manipulative
* Lack of remorse or guilt
* Shallow affect
* Callous/lack of empathy
* Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
* Promiscuous sexual behavior

Factor2: "Socially deviant lifestyle"

* Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
* Parasitic lifestyle
* Poor behavioral control
* Lack of realistic, long-term goals
* Impulsivity
* Irresponsibility
* Juvenile delinquency
* Early behavior problems
* Many short-term marital relationships
* Revocation of conditional release

Traits not correlated with either factor

* Many short-term marital relationships
* Criminal versatility

Looks like a closer fit to Billy Jeff. but what do I know?

68 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:24:21pm
69 LoFlyer  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:24:27pm

re: #46 right wing zephyr

Did he write Catch 22? A great book by the way, it caught the true flavor of the insanity of a nation at war. Not that we were insane for fighting Hitler or Tojo, just the insanity inherent to a modern world war...

70 rawmuse  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:25:00pm

re: #66 rockdad

Well it's science after all, and who can argue with that?

Yes, but is it "settled science"?

71 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:25:21pm

re: #69 LoFlyer

Did he write Catch 22? A great book by the way, it caught the true flavor of the insanity of a nation at war. Not that we were insane for fighting Hitler or Tojo, just the insanity inherent to a modern world war...

A little insanity never hurt anybody.

72 mikeinmd  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:25:33pm
"... somebody affected with a personality disorder marked by aggressive, violent, antisocial thought and behavior, and a lack of remorse or empathy."

Hmmm...

73 Ojoe  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:25:33pm

re: #69 LoFlyer

He did write Catch 22

74 WrathofG-d  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:25:44pm

Leftists: A living agrument againt evolution.

75 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:25:45pm
76 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:26:05pm
It’s almost cute how they periodically try to convince each other that Republicans aren’t just wrong, they’re hideous psychotic murdering beasts

That's the whole idea behind the giant paper-mache heads.

77 rockdad  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:26:35pm

re: #68 song_and_dance_man

The left must evolve to the right, yes? Then we are all saved. Case closed.
We can all go home now.

78 Sharmuta  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:26:56pm

re: #68 song_and_dance_man

The left are devolving.

No- evolving would suggest improvement- these people are no improvement.

79 Purple Prose  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:27:31pm

I can't wait to see DailyKos going crazy when their man loses, and it's another Repub. It will be amusing. I just hope some of them live up to their threat to move to Canada, Mexico, Bangladesh or wherever when Obama goes down in flames.

80 TS  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:27:41pm

So they can still feel they are compassionate people as they have fantasies of 'euthanizing' everyone who doesn't agree with them politically, for the betterment of the country of course.

81 Idle Drifter  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:27:45pm
82 solomonpanting  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:27:52pm

re: #74 WrathofG-d

Leftists: A living agrument again[s]t evolution choice.

83 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:28:20pm

This is the Year Zero.

/Angka

84 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:28:20pm

re: #79 Purple Prose

I can't wait to see DailyKos going crazy when their man loses, and it's another Repub. It will be amusing. I just hope some of them live up to their threat to move to Canada, Mexico, Bangladesh or wherever when Obama goes down in flames.

They never do, They never do.

85 WhiteRasta  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:28:25pm

re: #12 mama winger

Nooo. I'm right handed. I'm using my right hand for "other things".


BWAAAHAHAHAHHA!

86 WrathofG-d  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:28:26pm

re: #74 WrathofG-d

Leftists: A living agrument againt evolution.

I guess it does not help to make my point when I, myself, cannot even spell correctly.

87 Yankee Division Son  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:28:39pm

Classic BDS. I hear there's a pill for that now...

88 Sol Roth  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:28:40pm

Two things can cause one to leap into psychoanalyzing posters in a weblog:

1) mental illness treatment involving talk therapy wherein the poster has learned first hand the language of psychoanalysis, and/or

2) being a therapist, many of which are progressives.

Of course there are others (wikiholic pseudointellectuals for example), but these two seem the most pervasive.

89 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:28:44pm
90 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:29:11pm
91 Shug  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:29:37pm

From their own link

somebody affected with a personality disorder marked by aggressive, violent, antisocial thought and behavior, and a lack of remorse or empathy."

Which photo fits the profile

Photo 1

photo 2

92 The Other Les  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:29:55pm

re: #16 jaynumber13

If you adjust your perceptions the proper way, anyone can fit this profile. I can fit Obama into these parameters.

This is almost on par with the vagueness of horoscopes. Kos Kids are idiots.

Well actually no. An idiot in the original meaning of the word was someone who did not involve themselves in public affairs. Kos Kiddies are involved in public affairs but to the detriment of society. The correct term for them would be tyrannophile or traitor.

93 John N.  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:29:55pm

If only Descartes had put this way:
I think for myself, and cogently, therefore I exist.

Then we wouldn't have to suffer these fools, they wouldn't exist.

94 The Other Les  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:30:56pm

re: #21 rawmuse

"You are all a bunch of racists and nazis! And since dissent is the highest form of patriotism, and the highest form of dissent is treason, if you don't join us in treason, then you are not patriots."

/whatever...

That's pretty much a description of the Marxist mode of thought.

95 zombie  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:31:09pm

re: #76 Ringo the Gringo

That's the whole idea behind the giant paper-mache heads.

Those are some nice heads.

The whole Giant Head Industry is on the wane in Northern California. They made Mega-Gandhi, the Peace Dove, and the Weeping Arab Widows all about four years ago, yet there hasn't been a decent giant head since.

Sad to see the collapse of a local industry. At least LA is thriving.

96 Idle Drifter  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:32:02pm

re: #91 Shug

From their own link


Which photo fits the profile

Photo 1

photo 2

2

97 Yankee Division Son  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:32:03pm

re: #90 song_and_dance_man

Don't know.. saw a commercial on TV for it.

98 LeftJustAintRight  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:32:19pm

That is one profile that I will wear with honor
I have never been a conformist
And remember the old saying
We are all born liberal
Just some of us grow out of it
Hahahaha

99 Olderthandirt  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:32:22pm

Ah, yes, once again, we have been shown the true colors, and stripes, of the Daily Kos; Stalinists of the first order, true to the Commie Manifesto! Please realize that even those DK Kiddies will spilt amongst themselves, with one part becoming Trotskys and the other part Ice Pickmen! Actually, the true stripe of all DK Kiddies is skunk!

100 WrathofG-d  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:32:40pm

Since this is a Left/Right theory thread...explain me this:

How is it that the Left argues for evolution (against G-d Design) but does everything in its power to work against Darwinism (ie: welfare, social programs, "social justice" etc?). If they actually believe that humans are nothing more than the evolution of the skills to survive, why would they bolster the weak among us? Wouldn't that work against their theory of evolution?

101 LoFlyer  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:33:05pm

re: #86 WrathofG-d

I guess it does not help to make my point when I, myself, cannot even spell correctly.

Speel-checker is my friend!

102 EC Marm  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:33:26pm

re: #55 stevieray

/moonbats got psych 101 texts!


I loved taking Psychology 101 as an adult. The Dr. who taught the class basically said in class number one that not many would pass the course. Which, as an adult, told me to actually study and learn the material. The kids ignored the advice. It was fun to watch the faces as the first test results were handed back to the class. Out of about 25 in the class, only two passed the first test.
The other 23 still post at Kos.

103 DistantThunder  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:33:28pm

Explain to me how we are the party of psychopaths when we say that putting children in failing schools is akin to child abuse and child abuse?

Why are we less tolerant of crime?
Why are we less tolerant of early release for murderers and rapists?
Why are we less tolerant of terrorists and the countries that harbor them?
Why are we less tolerant of genocidal monsters like SAddam?
Why are we less tolerant of sexual behaviors that destroy human lives, infecting millions?
Why are we more protective of human life?


The argument makes no sense.

Also, I completely support Pres. Bush for his decision to invade Iraq. Saddam was creating mass graves with bulldozers out in the desert, rounding up tens of thousands of women and children, busing them to the graves, marching them into the graves, and then slaughtering them. The forensic anthropologist who testified against Saddam said that he uncovered thousands of graves with women holding their murdered children, their little pacifiers and toys clutched in their hands. Some were buried alive.

I am so g-d-m sick of these @sshole liberals who have no problem as bystanders to genocide. They are the corrupt sick b@stards that I hope burn in hell. Sorry, but this topic makes me cry - and furious!

Enablers are Monsters, too - new bumpersticker.

104 LeftJustAintRight  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:34:17pm

Hey Lo
Hey Wrath
Hey Zombie

105 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:34:20pm
106 The Other Les  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:34:21pm

re: #14 Kaitian868

So, people who votes for conservatism or Republicans is a psychopath?

Sanity is insane.

These are the people that Orwell warned us about when he wrote the novel 1984. It was a warning for us, An instruction manual for them.

107 Maui Girl  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:34:36pm

I have noticed that Obama is now claiming that voting for McCain is voting for Bush's third term. Man, I had no idea how serious and how far reaching BDS has become but seems that BHO has caught the bug. They just CANNOT leave Bush be. I saw a bumper sticker the other day that had 1-20-09 in big letters and something about the end of Bush's "reign of terror". Whatever will they do once he's no longer in office?

108 maddogg  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:34:42pm

They should congratulate themselves on their most successful attempt to "mainstream" Bush and the rest of us. We stack up pretty well against all the mentally unstable people they mainstreamed out of the mental institutions and onto the street to become known as "the homeless".

109 WrathofG-d  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:35:03pm

re: #104 LeftJustAintRight

Hey Lo
Hey Wrath
Hey Zombie

Woot! x2

110 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:35:27pm
111 rockdad  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:35:49pm

re: #89 song_and_dance_man

I take it all back then. Nuance is the lefts favorite weapon, it fits their moving target arguments. And I never seem to understand what they are saying when they are done.

112 rwmofo  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:36:11pm

There's more! Chris Matthews was seething last night because of Rush.

Here's an exchange with a very lovely African-American guest on his show:

MATTHEWS: ...(Rush) was going to manipulate the Democratic Party out of nominating Barack Obama and then blame the Democratic Party for that?

BERNARD: Well, that's one way to look at it. The way I choose to look at it is he's done something positive because he's said to African-Americans, ask the Democratic Party "what have they done for you lately?" And maybe as African-Americans, we need to sit down and think, do we really do ourselves justice whatsoever by all just being Democrats rather than forcing Republicans and Democrats to compete for the black vote? And for that I say to Rush Limbaugh: good job.

With that (his guest complimenting Rush - YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT HERE! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO AGREE WITH ME!), Matthews took another shot at Rush and the right in general, then ended the segment.

Heh heh, snort.

113 LoFlyer  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:36:40pm

re: #104 LeftJustAintRight

Hey Lo
Hey Wrath
Hey Zombie


Evening Left, I appreciate being included with such individuals as Wrath and Zombie that I highly respect. Thanks! (shifting to the new thread)

114 LeftJustAintRight  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:36:50pm

re: #109 WrathofG-d

Wrath
Apps are up again
Any Ideas ?

115 FrogMarch  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:38:26pm

KOS krowd has serious daddy/Hitler issues.

What's next? Will KOS krowd recommend all Republicans be carted off to gas chambers? You know - for the common good. You know - kuz we are all dirty psychopaths.

116 WrathofG-d  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:38:30pm

re: #114 LeftJustAintRight

Wrath
Apps are up again
Any Ideas ?

hmmm. just one I guess off the top of my head: Drama! They want characters...plus you have to be good looking.

117 FrogMarch  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:38:46pm

Rethuglicans should be dealt with!

118 maddogg  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:39:38pm

re: #117 FrogMarch

Rethuglicans should be dealt with!

They might find some of us harder to deal with than others...

119 WrathofG-d  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:39:42pm

What was that that Seal said?

We're never gunna survive...unless...

120 The Other Les  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:40:10pm

re: #103 DistantThunder

Also, I completely support Pres. Bush for his decision to invade Iraq. Saddam was creating mass graves with bulldozers out in the desert, rounding up tens of thousands of women and children, busing them to the graves, marching them into the graves, and then slaughtering them. The forensic anthropologist who testified against Saddam said that he uncovered thousands of graves with women holding their murdered children, their little pacifiers and toys clutched in their hands. Some were buried alive.

At the end of the Second World War the Allied Forces would force march the the inhabitants of nearby towns to the concentration camps to see what the minions of their glorious leader had done.

Somehow I suspect that flying the moonbats to Iraq to see Saddam's handiwork would not have the desirable effect.

121 LeftJustAintRight  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:40:30pm

re: #116 WrathofG-d

hmmm. just one I guess off the top of my head: Drama! They want characters...plus you have to be good looking.


Good looking ?
Not sure
Easy on the eyes probably
Drama ?
Thats were I am stuck

122 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:40:46pm

re: #44 bluegrassredstate

attention deficit disorder? they have stupider diseases than that now . . .

restless leg syndrome?

/Tingling leg syndrome.

123 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:40:50pm
124 LeftJustAintRight  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:41:07pm

re: #116 WrathofG-d

Thanks

125 solomonpanting  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:41:12pm

re: #107 Maui Girl

.They just CANNOT leave Bush be. I saw a bumper sticker the other day that had 1-20-09 in big letters and something about the end of Bush's "reign of terror". Whatever will they do once he's no longer in office?

Develop MDS.

126 Ojoe  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:41:27pm
127 Sol Roth  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:41:46pm

Wonder what Chuckie Greenballs would say about his compatriots being vilified thusly?

:)

128 WrathofG-d  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:41:50pm

re: #121 LeftJustAintRight

If you pay attention to who actually gets choosen you will notice that they all have something in common. They are either partial models &/or dang nuts.

You must remember the one theme on T.V.: RATINGS!

No personality...no picky!

129 ArmyWife  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:41:56pm

re: #10 JammieWearingFool

Clearly this is designed to unite us all on the path to glorious change.

You really think so? Because that is what I have been hoping.

130 CEQAttorney  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:41:58pm

This is just another example of how liberals now argue.

Note how they never discuss whether conservative may be correct or not. It is presumed that conservatives are wrong.

Then, the liberals have to answer why, if conservative are wrong, why do they chose the wrong decision. It's either that they are evil or crazy.

131 DownRightMeanAmerican  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:42:24pm
Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan
132 The Other Les  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:42:44pm

re: #115 FrogMarch

KOS krowd has serious daddy/Hitler issues.

What's next? Will KOS krowd recommend all Republicans be carted off to gas chambers? You know - for the common good. You know - kuz we are all dirty psychopaths.

Well that's what they did with the mentally defective during the Third Reich.

133 WrathofG-d  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:42:51pm

ok off to the next thread now.

134 Colonel Panik  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:44:10pm

Hep us Bowrock Obommer, we ar bitter sycotik waht peepul wif no jawbs!

135 LeftJustAintRight  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:44:19pm

re: #128 WrathofG-d

No personality...no picky!


I have personality
The drama is hard
LOL
I am making a tape this weekend
If you think of anything shoot me an e-mail
Thanks again

136 Maui Girl  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:46:51pm

re: #125 solomonpanting

Heavy sigh...

137 MrTunes  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:47:19pm

It is crap like this that annoys me the most.

I don't believe liberalism is a mental disorder...and I don't expect the same from the other side of the aisle.

138 The Other Les  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:47:49pm

re: #130 CEQAttorney

This is just another example of how liberals now argue.

Note how they never discuss whether conservative may be correct or not. It is presumed that conservatives are wrong.

Then, the liberals have to answer why, if conservative are wrong, why do they chose the wrong decision. It's either that they are evil or crazy.

Scriptural Inerrentcy of Marxist Dogma.

139 dr.mister  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:53:13pm

Psychiatry Kills

/off to tomcruise.com

140 Shay4l  Wed, May 7, 2008 4:58:36pm

LGF poster Shay4l: Lefties have to be insane to believe their own bull%$�@

141 Viking6  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:16:31pm

Re:re: #19 zombie

They got this idea from George Lakoff, who has based his career on psychoanalyzing the mysterious beast known as "The Conservative."

Spent some time in a Transformational Grammar class in the early 70's. Mostly just hung out in a bar with the Instructor while he played jazz piano and I tried to get to the deep structure of the female psyche

142 Ceemack  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:19:40pm

Wow...just wow.

Apparently a KosKid is to science as an untrained child is to a loaded firearm: they should never, ever be allowed to even try to use it. They're just not mature enough and skilled enough to do with without hurting themselves or somebody else.

First off, the idiot who wrote this post doesn't really understand what he's read about psychopaths, and certainly has never encountered one. No reasonable observer (that may be the problem right there) who had done either would know that W. is nothing of the kind.

And W. has social reasons for what he does. The fact that the KosKids don't agree with what he does is no proof that his actions are anti-social.

A psychopath acts strictly in his own self-interest. Right and wrong has no meaning whatsoever to a psychopath; the only test is "can I get away with it?" A psychopath can tell you an outrageous lie with no compunction whatsoever. If you think about it carefully, a former occupant of the White House fits this description rather closely. He happened to be a Democrat.

But while Clinton leaned in the direction of sociopathic personality disorder, I don't believe those tendencies were strong enough to justify that kind of diagnosis. He was slippery, but he wasn't a psychopath.

W. has a clearly defined sense of right and wrong; it's just that the KosKids have a very different notion of right and wrong.

But their hatred of Bush is so strong that they're perfectly willing to distort the nature of sociopathic personality disorder and the facts of Bush's actions in order to paint him with a dangerous mental illness.

I'm not sure what clinical disorder is exemplified by "I don't agree with him, so he must be crazy", and I don't have a current DSM.

143 themaninthestripedsuit  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:31:02pm

Nothing new here move along.

Reminds me of Irving Younger's Classics of the Courtroom. Thomas Murphy's Cross-Examination of Carl Binger in U.S. v. Alger Hiss
Binger was a Psychiatrist who was going to do this kind on diagnosis of Whitaker Chambers. Murphy's cross of Binger is a true Classic of the Courtroom alas Amazon says this book is no longer available.

144 Alouette  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:34:33pm

Yes Kostards, we are all batshit crazy, be careful or we'll go all Ted Bundy on your asses.

145 TS  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:42:37pm

re: #36 LoFlyer


Amen!

146 stevem99  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:43:33pm

Gosh... I'm sorry...

Oh wait a minute... I'm a psychopath so I'm not sorry...

Crap... this is always so darn confusing...

147 NTropy  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:43:50pm
It’s almost cute how they periodically try to convince each other that Republicans aren’t just wrong, they’re hideous psychotic murdering beasts. Or worse.


Damnit! Who told?

148 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:45:07pm

I wonder if they are aware of the term "projection".

149 Timbre  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:45:17pm

I have 148 Democrats buried in my petunia garden, Clarice.

150 Timbre  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:46:02pm

Now I'm really angry. The Democrats messed up my count by one!

151 Tigger2005  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:46:34pm

re: #28 buzzsawmonkey

My forearms are bathed in human blood, and I am even now worrying the liver of my latest victim in my teeth.

/oh, wait...is this thing on?

Quick, wash down the liver with this nice Chianti!

152 profitsbeard  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:46:53pm

"...[Bush] fits the profile they've developed for a classic psychopath.
It's uncanny."

I think they mean "It's unicorny."

Psychobabble for the rabble.

153 cwm3  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:46:56pm

There is nothing new under the sun. Books were written psychoanalyzing Whittaker Chambers, and discovering --- surprise! --- that the whole Alger Hiss thing was the result of Chambers' mental illness.

154 Phil N Blanx  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:53:25pm

Hi. I'm Phil and I'm a...wait...has a consensus been officially proclaimed to end the debate?

155 NTropy  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:54:35pm
In 1956, Cleckley co-authored The Three Faces of Eve with Corbett H. Thigpen, the book serving as the basis for the 1957 film starring Joanne Woodward about Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD).[citation needed]

Source material for "Dr." Cleckley?

The Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised, with demonstrated reliability and validity, is rapidly being adopted worldwide as the standard instrument for researchers and clinicians.

The left's new literacy test for voting?

156 JRHelgeson  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:55:07pm

Funny thing is, I question my sanity every day.

I wonder how often those Kute Kuddly Kossacks question their sanity?

It holds true once again that the truly insane are completely convinced of their sanity. They are utterly convinced that they apply nothing but sober, unerring, unquestionable judgment in every situation. They never question their positions (because they 'feel right')... jeez. And I thought the Ron Paulians were a bunch of loonies.

157 swisnieski  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:57:40pm

Armchair psychiatry: the blunt object the left uses (and has used throughout history) to silence its political opponents. If an actual psychologist were to make a diagnosis of someone he'd never met, he'd risk losing his license to practice and probably get sued for libel.

But he can't, of course, because "Psychopathy" is not, strictly speaking, a psychiatric diagnosis, anymore than "insanity" is. It refers broadly to any psychological pathology, which can include anything from mundane depression to catatonic schizophrenia. I suppose they're referring to antisocial personality disorder, but if so, the author is clearly wrong that it is a learned set of behaviors -- which simply doesn't square with the huge number of antisocials who had perfectly healthy and well-adjusted childhoods. (FWIW, psychologists suspect APD develops as a result of a reduced capacity to experience stimulation -- thus antisocials indulge in increasingly perverse means of stimulating themselves, i.e., murdering people in the street).

And at any rate, I could point to a small and growing body of literature suggesting that conservatives consistently score higher on measures of agreeableness, conscientiousness, social desirability, and internality, all of which correlate negatively with depression, social anxiety, and low self-esteem.

I'm disturbed by the growing tendency of the left to cook up phony psychological justifications for shutting conservatives out of the academy. Reminds me a bit of the old "sluggishly progressing schizophrenia" diagnosis the Soviets used to apply to their political opponents to lock them up in mental hospitals.

158 irongrampa  Wed, May 7, 2008 5:57:55pm

Once more, if you realize that the "reality based community" operates from a fiction based reality,they become easy to understand--and even more fun to mock.

159 Gretchen  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:00:03pm

All these socialist ideas always work out so well! Do you know where they go for subjects in many Phase III clinical drug trials? Canada and other countries with socialized medicine because there are no second-line drugs for many horrible diseases. Here in the US subjects aren't as willing to join these studies because they have therapies available. So, even with the mounting distrust and unhappiness in other countries with socialized medicine schemes, that's what we'll be looking at if we have a Democrat Congress and President. Yippee!

That sounds like a form of mental illness to me.

160 Hard Right  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:08:15pm

How sad. Those people are in extreme need of mental help.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, make them take anti-psychotic meds and there would be no moonbats.

161 Freedom Fan  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:08:44pm

Y'know, Obama may get to be President, but I doubt you will ever encounter ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) like the BDS many Leftists have with Dubya. This is because for many on the Left, their distorted Lib worldview is their religion -- their very soul.

For Conservatives, politics are important, but regardless of who is elected, we will do just fine because we rely upon ourselves, not the government.

Liberals want the government to do something for them; they want the government to take what belongs to someone else and give it to them. In order to rationalize their legalized theft, Libs must demonize the productive folks who created the goodies.

Conservatives just want to be left alone to prosper and enjoy freedom, without intrusive government.

162 Render  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:14:21pm

They haven't seen crazy yet...

Burnin down the house...

LIGHT
EM
UP,
R

163 HDrepub  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:23:30pm
164 FrogMarch  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:36:51pm

Yes -- because we are anti-communist, anti-socialist, anti-bog-government, anti-nanny state, anti-left-wing fascists - that means we are all psychopaths.


Left-wingers are strange little freaks.

165 kansas  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:39:13pm

These morons have BDS.

166 Dustyvet  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:40:22pm

I see that the Kos Kiddies have been toking the pot again...

167 apb1  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:45:19pm

Classic doper paranoia - next will come the junk food raids and blaming Booosh for their increasing waistlines ...

168 HDrepub  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:46:21pm

re: #166 Dustyvet

I see that the Kos Kiddies have been toking the pot again...


Ha! Put your hands over your heads Kos Kids, and step away from the bong please.

169 hazzyday  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:47:08pm

re: #3 Sharmuta

I believe it's called "projection".

/tossin' the psychoanalysis right back atcha

Yes, I agree hear. They look at the world thru their own sociopathics lenses and see the world that way. Scientists included. If you vote democratic, it should be a clue to you that you can't perceive truth. You are more concerned about outcomes that allow you to vacation.

170 lazypadawan  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:48:39pm

Let's see, our side abides by the law, works hard, adheres to basic hygiene, and respects this country and its traditions.

Their side includes guys who wander about with enlarged scrotums, badly-dressed hags, paranoid conspiracy theorists, moms who drop their toddlers on their heads at protests, and men who poop on U.S. flags in front of small children.

Who's got the mental problems again?

171 HDrepub  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:50:37pm

re: #170 lazypadawan

Who's got the mental problems again?

Reminds me of a movie line where John Travolta's character says," Now who's the stupid mother f*cker?"

172 Tigger2005  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:51:27pm

re: #164 FrogMarch

anti-bog-government

Yes, I am DEFINITELY anti-bog government!

Who wants to be governed by a bog?

173 Golem14  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:53:30pm

#107 Maui Girl

Whatever will they do once he's no longer in office?

My guess is that they'll do the same thing they did to Reagan-- basically forget about him (except to trot his name out occasionally as a reminder of the Bad Old Days) and latch on to whatever eee-vil conservative becomes prominent in the future...

174 LEGION  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:54:12pm

re: #19 zombie

They got this idea from George Lakoff, who has based his career on psychoanalyzing the mysterious beast known as "The Conservative."

Some decent info on his insulting propositions here.

He is considered a top Democratic "deep strategist," and may be personally responsible for George Bush's 8 years in office, since he led the Dems off the cliff.

As Rush says- Lakoff- rhymes with --- :-)

175 markie  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:57:23pm

My Abnormal Psych professor, at the first lecture, made the point that anyone examined for traits discussed in class could be found to fit several, and not to go "diagnosing" folks based on that alone. I've never tended to do that since, until I first saw Kos' website.

176 LEGION  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:59:12pm

re: #132 The Other Les

Well that's what they did with the mentally defective during the Third Reich.

They did for a while but then there was such an outcry they stopped! If they had only continued the outcry for the rest.

177 jharada  Wed, May 7, 2008 6:59:24pm

Cool, ill play along.

So being a republican is a psychological disease, sooo that means I am not responsible for any of my actions because I have a disease. So basically playing by there rules I have carte blanc on my actions?

Great! so me wanting guns to protect myself from criminals and repressive government run by these folks it should be cool by them since I am no longer responsible for my actions because I am now a "Victim" of this "disease"

I love it.

178 joncelli  Wed, May 7, 2008 7:04:06pm

re: #157 swisnieski

Soviet psychiatry is the first thing that springs to mind when I read pseudo-psychology like this. When political expediency is your lodestar, political psychiatry just follows naturally.

179 gearhead  Wed, May 7, 2008 7:04:35pm
The study also showed that “Republicanism” as political and social ideology... is even worse than psychopathy.

If loving small government and personal responsibility is wrong, then I don't wanna be right.

180 Egfrow  Wed, May 7, 2008 7:05:47pm

It seems that anyone willing to stand on their own moral principles and actually be willing to defend them are being demonized as evil human beings. If fact I believe those who are unwilling to stand for anything at all except for the division and derision of others are the lowest and most contemptible of life forms. This is a self inflicted sickness which only has one cure, a crash course with reality. This rarely happens because irrational emotionalism is socially supported by most mass media outlets and political propagandists.

Tear down anything that shows virtue so that only the weak and aimless are left. They are easier to control.

181 justiceforall  Wed, May 7, 2008 7:08:42pm

Charles writes, "It’s almost cute how they periodically try to convince each other that Republicans aren’t just wrong, they’re hideous psychotic murdering beasts. Or worse."

The posters on the site use hyperbole to support their partisan rhetoric? That is shocking. I'm glad no one on this site does that.

182 ZK273  Wed, May 7, 2008 7:15:35pm

Pardon me, I have to go eat puppies and burn swatstikas into my skin with cigarettes now. Because that's what we crazy right-wingers do, don'tcha know.

183 Steffan  Wed, May 7, 2008 7:19:46pm

re: #79 Purple Prose

I can't wait to see DailyKos going crazy when their man loses, and it's another Repub. It will be amusing. I just hope some of them live up to their threat to move to Canada, Mexico, Bangladesh or wherever when Obama goes down in flames.

Naaah. They'll pout, call us all racists, and go beck to flinging poo like the chimpanzees they sound like. After all, Alec Baldwin never kept his promise to leave, did he?

184 Mich-again  Wed, May 7, 2008 7:21:01pm

re: #181 justiceforall

That is shocking. I'm glad no one on this site does that.

I scroll through the thread most every day and I can't recall reading where Hillary or Obama were referred to as "hideous psychotic murdering beasts" Marxists, egomaniacs, pandering elitists, liars, moonbats, that kind of stuff, sure. But then, those descriptions are all true. Just ask either of them about the other one.

185 looking closely  Wed, May 7, 2008 7:27:23pm

re: #107 Maui Girl

I have noticed that Obama is now claiming that voting for McCain is voting for Bush's third term. Man, I had no idea how serious and how far reaching BDS has become but seems that BHO has caught the bug. They just CANNOT leave Bush be. I saw a bumper sticker the other day that had 1-20-09 in big letters and something about the end of Bush's "reign of terror". Whatever will they do once he's no longer in office?

Its simple.
The problem isn't with Bush, the problem is with these individuals.
Inevitably, their Bush Derangement Syndrome will transfer onto McCain.
If elected, you can expect near instant comparisons to Hitler, etc, etc, etc.

186 looking closely  Wed, May 7, 2008 7:33:12pm

The skids are already greased for MDS, by the way.

There are those on the left already muttering that McCain's imprisonment and torture in Vietnam have left him clinically insane.

The caricature they'll cook up for McCain certainly won't be the same stupid-chimp-Hitler one they've cooked up for Bush, but it will be equally vile.

187 wanumba  Wed, May 7, 2008 7:39:45pm

Yuh.
This is all make-believe. Living with an "expert" diagnosis by a panel of nine soft science PhDs in sociology, psychology, social work, etc who've come to the infallable conclusion that your kid is autistic, and if you object, be informed that you are exhibiting the clinical symptoms (yes, really) of "parental denial."
This "expert" culture favored by the Left is very very dangerous.

188 gman  Wed, May 7, 2008 7:41:16pm

Within the hierarchy of the Left, Kos enjoys Commander- in - Chief status. When he proclaimed that Barry was his man, all dissent was quickly quelled. When Hillary supporters went on strike at D'kos, they were openly ridiculed for their bizarre actions. There was no debate, no discussion, Barry was Kos' man and a good helping of poll numbers was dished out on a daily basis to reaffirm any doubters minds. Only it wasn't that simple and Hillary put up a bigger fight than "Screw 'em" thought possible. It reminds me of the cocksure confidence displayed by Dems before Bush was reelected back in 2004. Gore was a shoe- in we were all told and Bush should just throw in the towel. However, there was that tiny little problem called the American electorate and the tiny problem of faulty poll numbers swooning to the Left.

I expect to see this pathological self- confidence leading up to McCain's election in November. Kos will continue to serve his kidz up a daily serving of poll numbers, except these will be Obama vs. McCain projections. The focus on Bush, the scapegoat for all world problems all time, will remain strong. We will hear that the election is already over in July (my estimate), even though the election will come down to the wire in November and McCain will win.

189 gman  Wed, May 7, 2008 7:43:37pm

Speaking of pathological, look at this article titled Venom's Trip to Walmart:

Anyways, getting to what got my ire. It seems to me that Walmart is part of some grand plan to mold Americans into some sort of testosterone creature with a bent towards conservative jingoism. First off it seemed as if any movie that wasn't a gun-toting action flick or sports theme was in short supply. I asked the man if they had "the Corporation" or "Thank you for not Smoking" and the middle-aged goateed man grunted and said no not their type f film. It should be noted, that I found the latter in one of those bargain bins.

In the children's toys section, it seemed as if the boy's section got more attention. More aggressive-leaning products were promoted, like action figures that had all sorts of plastic projectiles. The girls section, basically if you wanted slutty-looking toys or shit that emphasized that women should be all beauty an no brains, they had them in spades. No attendants to point out any educational games, actually they did have some educational stuff but well like the rest of the children's section, they were in shambles.

190 RememberSekhmet?  Wed, May 7, 2008 7:49:52pm

Before there was Bush Derangement Syndrome, there was Reagan Derangement Syndrome.

Same shyte different day

191 KSK  Wed, May 7, 2008 7:50:38pm

That's what the slaveholders thought about Abraham Lincoln, I guess

192 BFSkinner  Wed, May 7, 2008 7:55:30pm

This was the Koz post I was speaking of, when I posted in the other segment. As a result, as an experimental psychologist I feel that Obama fits well under the DSM IV guidelines for the following:

Narcissistic DSM IV Criteria

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements):
The freshman senator told reporters in July that he would overcome Hillary Rodham Clinton's lead in the polls because "to know me is to love me."
A few months later, he said, "Every place is Barack Obama country once Barack Obama's been there."
(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
He is a one-term US Senator running for President of the United States. Enough said.
(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
"It's not surprising that they get bitter." Obama then told donors "They cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment."
“Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?
(4) requires excessive admiration
"It will light upon you," he continued. "You will experience an epiphany. And you will say to yourself, I have to vote for Barack. I have to do it."
But both Obama and his wife, Michelle, ooze a sense of entitlement.
"Barack is one of the smartest people you will ever encounter who will deign to enter this messy thing called politics," his wife said a few weeks ago, adding that Americans will get only one chance to elect him.
(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
See above.
(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
Reverend Wright...need we say more?
(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
He has blocked the Illinois Born Alive Infant Protection Act in 1995 1996 and 2003.
He obviously feels no empathy for the bitter blue collar white voters.
(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
See how Barack reacts to HRC.
(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
All of the above.

193 Sifty  Wed, May 7, 2008 8:03:00pm

Hi folks.

Even though lots of us are apparently psychopaths, I think we are pretty cool.

194 Viva Veritas  Wed, May 7, 2008 8:14:03pm

Well, conservatives are happier: Conservatives say they're happier. So we must be crazy.

(Check out Izzie's rant in the comments - kinda proves the point. We're not as angry as the Lefties because we're worrying about all the wrong things.)

195 USBeast  Wed, May 7, 2008 8:20:24pm

"It’s almost cute how they periodically try to convince each other that Republicans aren’t just wrong, they’re hideous psychotic murdering beasts. Or worse."

This is yet another blatant example of rampant Beastophobia. Ugly, smelly beasts, such as myself are being tarred with same brush as the "hideous psychotic murdering beasts".

It's high time the government issued guidelines that protect the rights of decent, self-respecting ugly, smelly beasts while making sure that "hideous psychotic murdering beasts" are brought to justice.

I shall write my Congressman.

196 miguelj  Wed, May 7, 2008 8:21:03pm

Gee, don't these good doctors have a professional responsibility to march up to the White House gates and announce that they've come to have GWB taken away in a strait-jacket? bring it! i say

197 Spiny Norman  Wed, May 7, 2008 8:23:57pm

The Kossacks (and DUmbies, paintHuffers, Indymidiots, Code Pinkos...) are so cute when they're projecting.

:^þ

198 norar  Wed, May 7, 2008 8:27:10pm

Did anybody read a research on what personality disorder one have to have to be a Commi?

Do mental cases ever do research on themselves?

199 Timbo17  Wed, May 7, 2008 8:31:16pm

100 Million dead from Communism. 40 million babies slaughtered in the womb. 58,000 dead in Vietnam which was started by a liberal and we're the psychopaths.

Socialism has caused more misery, more death and more psychosis than any political ideology on the globe.

200 USBeast  Wed, May 7, 2008 8:32:46pm

re: #199 Timbo17

100 Million dead from Communism. 40 million babies slaughtered in the womb. 58,000 dead in Vietnam which was started by a liberal and we're the psychopaths.

Socialism has caused more misery, more death and more psychosis than any political ideology on the globe.

It's running neck and neck with Islam.

201 SuaSponte  Wed, May 7, 2008 9:01:12pm

We will soon be marked as descended from apes and pigs and as drinkers of their children's blood.

Hmmm... sounds familiar.

202 U.S.S. Nixon  Wed, May 7, 2008 9:23:48pm

Why do they always sounds like a bunch of cry babies...

203 Freedom Fan  Wed, May 7, 2008 9:38:05pm

Heh. Did anyone actually read the pathetic kos article by MarkThShark? It is almost totally devoid of any cognitive reasoning.

Most of the article is devoted to a list of humorous nicknames invented by Dubya, and concludes that the list proves that Dubya is a 'psychopath' because the nicknames somehow are belittling.

Then because Dubya is a 'psychopath' therefore folks who are loyal to him are also psychopaths, and he lists some prominent Conservatives.

Then somehow the nutty author leaps to:

...So, the question is: do psychopaths naturally become Republicans? Or, do Republicans, for some cabalistic reason, actually admire and adopt psychopathic behavior as their highest ideal?


Also, the article uses a study by a psychiatrist who studied prison inmates to learn about psychopathic behavior.

Yes, prison inmates ... who are overwhelmingly Liberals. Liberals want something-for-nothing. Some Liberals go to prison for taking what doesn't belong to them by force; others persuade government to take from others and give it to them legally.

Brilliant article!

204 PatrioticAmerican  Wed, May 7, 2008 9:57:57pm

If a Republican is a psychopath, what does that make a Liberal like Kos? The anti-Christ?

205 logboy  Wed, May 7, 2008 10:10:17pm

If Bush is a psychopath, what does that make those of us in the military who believe in him? Lets say he is one (to briefly satisify the real whackos who believe it). I'd much rather take orders from a psychopath than some backstabbing military coward like Kerry, especially in the wake of 9/11.

206 Spiny Norman  Wed, May 7, 2008 10:14:43pm

re: #198 norar

Did anybody read a research on what personality disorder one have to have to be a Commie?

"Malignant Narcissism" would be my first guess.

207 Devil's Advocate  Wed, May 7, 2008 10:16:08pm

The thing that bothers me the most is that these books and "studies" will be required reading no doubt in some Undergraduate class, and the poor students will be tested on the "findings."

Mark my words.

208 29Victor  Wed, May 7, 2008 10:21:44pm

It's all fun and games until they take over...

Then it's reeducation camps and sanatoriums.

209 logboy  Wed, May 7, 2008 10:41:21pm

re: #207 Devil's Advocate

You are absolutely correct unfortunately. I had my grade docked last semester by this ultra liberal moonbat from the east coast because many of my beliefs were based on my experience in the military. I've never understood how a paper based on your opinions can be "incorrect". You think she'd have a little more respect toward someone who lost their right arm in Iraq less than 12 months before taking her class. Unfortunately the education system is full of them. They love to pray on young fragile minds. They know they can't compete with someone who has real world knowledge and experience. Theory will only get you so far moonbats, especially when terrorists are trying to kill you.

It reminds me a lot of this famous movie quote:

"Personally, I liked the university. They gave us money and facilities; we didn't have to produce anything! You've never been out of college! You don't know what it's like out there! I've *worked* in the private sector. They expect *results*. "

210 ceemack  Wed, May 7, 2008 11:03:01pm

re: #209 logboy
You have no idea how accurate that quote is.

And thank you for your service!

211 Apache30  Thu, May 8, 2008 12:14:35am

The Koscum should be careful what they wish for.

They might get it.

212 dave fitz  Thu, May 8, 2008 12:49:06am

The interesting bit, for me, is where the one Kos Kid says "insulting nicknames are a sign of psychopathology" even though Kos regularly rings with "Chucky Johnson", "Mann Coulter", "Rush Limpbaugh", "Rethuglicans" and many, many more.

Apparently, moonbats believe the examined life is not worth living.

All of this psuedo-pop-psych generally leads back to their contention that the Right is a manifestation of authoritarianism. In my experience, most right-wingers have an indifferent respect for centralized authority, despite being okay with the concept of laws and social order. The "right-wing militia" types so excoriated by Kos are generally aces away from living naked in the trees and gang-mooning the sheriff, but they don't seem to get any credit for their anti-authoritarianism.

Question: Is it possible that none of this schtuff really leads anywhere at all? The runic symbol for chaos was an octagon of arrows radiating out from a single center; a scattering in all directions. Is it possible "left-wing thought" is similar, a random blast of noise without any real principles or foundations?

Dave

213 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 1:18:24am

I remember how the Soviet Union used psychiatry to oppress people who wouldn't toe the party line.
Usually, er...conservatives.

The leftists, always true to their real inner monsters.

214 Morganfrost  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:04:19am

Standard leftist stuff-- and easy to explain.

After all, from the leftist perspective, if conservatism is an idea, then it has to be addressed on its merits. If it's merely a pathology, then there's no need to discuss anything with a conservative-- just dismiss him as a loon, or, better yet, have him locked up.

Interestingly, the Soviet Union used to put dissidents in psychiatric hospitals.

215 agtiger  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:39:37am

#3 Sharmuta:

> I believe it's called "projection".

Or in the case of trying to get everyone else to buy into that delusion: Deflection.

But yes, this is pretty much what I was thinking when I came in to read the comments.

216 useless  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:15:30am

WELL!

Thank god I'm in the Army where they can put us repub...I mean sociopaths to good use!

217 outofbounds  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:26:43am

WooHoo! I knew there was something wrong with me.

218 Nat-X  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:35:15am

re: #214 Morganfrost

Interestingly, the Soviet Union used to put dissidents in psychiatric hospitals.

I've also read stories where some islamic governments will declare apostates (usually Christians) insane. But as least they killing 'em.

I'm re-reading Orwell's 1984. It seems so appropriate for the times.

219 mbabbitt  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:07:17am

Besides projection, I could have sworn that paranoid delusions were a symptom of a deep psychological pathology.

220 recklessprocess  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:25:25am

This is why Obamessiah cannot win; he hates Americans who voted for Bush. A clear majority of people voted for Bush and did it twice. Defeatocrats hate us. Look at how they attempt to paint us as less than human. They will be sending us to the camps with the showers if Barry gets elected and everyone knows it. A few idiots will vote for obama but I predict a Regean like landslide for McCain.

221 TMF  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:31:31am

The fact that these f'ing pigs stand a pretty damn good chance of taking the WH (they already took the other two houses, and will likely increase those majorities) sickens me

WTF is wrong with people in this country? A dangerous combination of gullibility, naivete, historical ignorance and plain ole stupidity

222 Pyrocles  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:46:20am

Many leftists see humans as a plague. Saddam was doing what many of them secretly long to do - decrease the human population by any means necessary... The masses of people are just numbers.

re: #103 DistantThunder

223 A.W.  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:55:05am

This is much of what is dysfunctional about American politics. They don't just think the other side is wrong, but evil. I have long called it the Democratic Hate Machine, because it seems like any time a Republican rises to prominence, all the little dems down to the street level start to get the talking points.

There are a few democrats I actually dislike as people. And yeah, right now, two of them are running for president. But hopefully you'll forgive a small-town Pennsylvanian who doesn't like being insulted by one of the candidates, and finds the Clintons corrupt (given that there is overwhelmling evidence of that corruption).

But I don't hate Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi. I think their policy preferences are foolish and short-sighted, but there is no hate.

The Democrats always claim that republicans question their patriotism. But their Hate Machine is 10 times worse.

224 Cowardkerry  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:05:27am

KOS KIDZ = Losers Irrelevant to their core.

225 ChazNOLA  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:10:08am

Perhaps they think we're psychopaths because they are unable to understand how conservatives can separate emotions like guilt from our political decision-making process.

226 Penfold  Thu, May 8, 2008 7:28:06am

It's the first step in the 'progressive' new world order. Dehumanize your opponents and all who do not think like you, and then they are no longer human. If not human, then all your doing is putting a rabid beast down. And ain't nothing wrong with that. Familiar tactic from history for tyrants and despots the world over.

By making political beliefs a form of mental disease, these 'progressives' can have them 'treated'. It would be a great deal scarier if the Kos Kids were not losers living in Mom's basement whining about stale chips and getting pepsi instead of coke.

227 grondy  Thu, May 8, 2008 7:43:26am
It’s almost cute how they periodically try to convince each other that Republicans aren’t just wrong, they’re hideous psychotic murdering beasts. Or worse.

It's a common theme on the left to consider insane (or just portray as insane, depending on the level of cynicism involved) the people who don't think like you do.

Some examples:
Islamophobia - It's a clinical term, if you get physiological treatment you will snap out of it.
Homophobia - See Islamophobia
You still support the war - You suffer from cognitive dissonance (go see a doctor)
Religious - Clung to out of fear (i.e. another treatable phobia)
Gun rights - See religious
Prefer lower taxes - Fear of government, see Religious

No wonder they want government funded health care, how else are they going to get us all the physiological treatment we so desperately need?

228 nikis-knight  Thu, May 8, 2008 7:56:42am

re: #212 dave fitz

All of this psuedo-pop-psych generally leads back to their contention that the Right is a manifestation of authoritarianism.

I find it ironic that the side that generally has contempt for police and law and order want more government, while the side that wants less government is also generally more respectful of authority.

229 stead63  Thu, May 8, 2008 8:05:43am

Prepared to be amazed...Fox News has this but CNN is has this

strange.

230 SunCat  Thu, May 8, 2008 8:08:51am

This individual may have read an article about "psychopathy" and partially understood it but s/he does not understand George Bush.

George Bush did not
*Fail to act in response to a natural disaster
*Lie us into a war
*Steal an election

You just as easily say that about Democrats. Christopher Hitchens in No One Left to Lie To: The Triangulations of William Jefferson Clinton makes a good case that Bill Clinton is was/is a sociopath that is, one with a personality disorder who is unable to empathize with others or show signs of conscience.

231 Paul Atreides  Thu, May 8, 2008 8:14:15am

We're coming up in the world! We've gone from being Nazis to the Taliban to typical bitter, gun-totin', Bible-thumpin' white people to being just plain ol' psychotic.

232 Longbow  Thu, May 8, 2008 8:27:17am

So,Daily Kos thinks we are psychopaths . If that is the case , why are the people in Daily Kos still alive . I mean , psychopaths does not take offense ever so lightly and considering that most Republicans and conservatives are gun -owners, the death toll that the psychopathic Republicans would inflict on the Left would be horrendous that it will silence the traitorous Left for the longest time . Honestly , the Kos Kids should get psychiatric consult and fast,their paranoid delusions and schizophrenic ideation should be enough to confine them to the nearest psych hospital .

233 Paul Atreides  Thu, May 8, 2008 8:27:32am

No wonder they want government funded health care, how else are they going to get us all the physiological treatment "sensitivity training" we so desperately need?

234 LeonidasOfSparta  Thu, May 8, 2008 8:29:16am

this is the same diatribe Stalin proliferated -- the STATE used psychiatry to silence anyone that didn't tow the Party line.

sad.

Those who know nothing of history are doomed to repeat it.

235 CEQAttorney  Thu, May 8, 2008 8:31:43am

As I posted earlier, this is typical of liberalism and politics today.

It is no longer sufficient to "win" the argument. Liberals must destroy their opponents.

Note how easy liberals compare conservatives to Nazis.

236 Paul Atreides  Thu, May 8, 2008 8:35:53am
Note how easy liberals compare conservatives to Nazis.

The greatest gift to liberals has been Adolf Hitler; with that one name they dismiss anyone and everyone who doesn't goose-step to their official dogma.

237 so.cal.swede  Thu, May 8, 2008 8:54:17am

COMRADES WHO DON'T AGREE WITH US ARE INSANE BY DEFENITION AND SHOULD BE INSTITUTIONALIZED OR SENT TO GULAG.

238 Land Shark  Thu, May 8, 2008 9:29:15am

Aren't the Kos Kids the best? They are such a great example of leftist moonbat silliness I'm always sending conservatives over there to check 'em out. They always come back to me with some variation of "those people are nucking futs!"

Of course, I'm just a CRP (Certified Republican Psycopath) so what do I know, right?

239 tacodawn  Thu, May 8, 2008 10:05:53am

Really great comments and links...thanks fellow psychopaths!

240 Ornery Ballsack  Thu, May 8, 2008 10:11:50am

Wow! Sophomore Psychology undergrad gets it all wrong. A little bit of knowledge is truly a dangerous thing. Dr. Cleckley's The Mask of Sanity is an interesting book, however, published in 1941 it is hopelessly outdated at this point. His discussions of mental illness rely heavily on Kraeplin, deny a biological basis of mental illness, and are noteworthy mainly for the proposition that personality disorders represent a separate form of mental illness (radical thinking 70 years ago). Bob Hare (and his group out of Vancouver, B.C.) on the other hand, represent more modern thinking on psychopathy. His work on galvanic response (heart rate, sweating, autonomic activation) of psychopaths when faced with stressful situations (as well as other good research) remains on the forefront of current thinking on the disorder known in the US (defined in DSM IV-TR) as "antisocial personality disorder". The problem is that most of this work is deemed "politically incorrect" (by the MSM and the liberal left) who seek to rehabilitate these monsters instead of recongnizing the biological basis of the illness and the fact that it is not amenable to treatment (either with medication or psychotherapy). They do, however, respond to rigid structure and immediate consequences for their actions. The implications of the research this one seems to be advocating is entirely at odds with the agenda it is pushing.

241 DaveOlson  Thu, May 8, 2008 10:53:05am

Kos provides a wonderful outlet - posting there drives them nuts. It is the very definition of an echo chamber where no one outside their view is acceptable.

242 elchimpy  Thu, May 8, 2008 11:02:18am

re: #236 Paul Atreides

Good point (and great name!) Paul Atreides. If we mention Mao, Che, Ho Chi Mihn or other mass murderers we get the hairy eyeball like we're the ones digging in the past's dirt.

The Daily Kos is like a playground where children all of a sudden have an interest in politics. No thought just emotional responses.

Here's a fun little trick I like to pull on my less than aware lefty associates. Ask them how great it would be to have a socialist party that was national. You know like a National Socialist Party. Without fail they say that would be great. Ugh. The left is so naive, dangerously so.

243 pantera  Thu, May 8, 2008 11:04:27am

Last I checked, one of the key features of a psychopath is pathological lying. The problem with applying psychology to politics is that if you oppose someone's political ideals, then you must think you are telling the truth. And if you are telling the truth, then the other person is lying. And if the other person keeps saying his lies, then he's a pathological lier. And if the other person you oppose is a pathological lier, then he's a psychopath.

Which of course leads to the conclusion that every person in the united states is a psychopath, since there must be someone out there who opposes what you say and can pass judgment on your state of mind.

This is why psychology and politics should not mix, it's bad enough we have everybody calling everybody else a lier, we don't need them calling each other psychopaths.


And I'm deeply sorry if you couldn't understand what I just said.

244 nev.  Thu, May 8, 2008 11:30:30am

re: #243 pantera

Last I checked, one of the key features of a psychopath is pathological lying. The problem with applying psychology to politics is that if you oppose someone's political ideals, then you must think you are telling the truth. And if you are telling the truth, then the other person is lying. And if the other person keeps saying his lies, then he's a pathological lier. And if the other person you oppose is a pathological lier, then he's a psychopath.

Which of course leads to the conclusion that every person in the united states is a psychopath, since there must be someone out there who opposes what you say and can pass judgment on your state of mind.

This is why psychology and politics should not mix, it's bad enough we have everybody calling everybody else a lier, we don't need them calling each other psychopaths.


And I'm deeply sorry if you couldn't understand what I just said.

I thought it was pretty good myself.

245 Paul Atreides  Thu, May 8, 2008 1:01:02pm

re: #242 elchimpy


Here's a nice little bit-o-human interest, from the paragons of progressive doubleplusgoodthink:


Code Pink Protesters Try Witchcraft at Anti-Marine Rallies

246 Joan  Thu, May 8, 2008 1:11:27pm

Tireless wankers.

247 Joan  Thu, May 8, 2008 1:16:37pm

Do they never tire of adolescence? Wankers.

248 offendi  Thu, May 8, 2008 2:17:35pm

The beauty of Kos is that it is the gift that keeps on giving in terms of elections in a country which does not fall within Kos' mental and demographic limitations.

Hopefully they will try and force B Hussein O to follow their Stanlistic-type ideological purity, which of course is not supported by the majority of Americans. Don't be surprised if Barry the Messiah gives them the cold shoulder or the Jay Z shoulder brush-off.

He knows the lunatic fringe. Remember Rev. Wright?

249 see bs  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:45:27pm

Typical moonbatian / tinfoil hat thoughts and beliefs

Yet it is the left to use force and violence to justify their beliefs.

It is the left who do not debate an issue, but fall into many fallacies (RACIST!)

It is the left who would take away the rights of the individual for the "greater good".

It is in the lefts mindset that if you are not with "us" you are the enemy.

It is the left who "cherry pick" the data and information and not provide any questions and challenges to their beliefs.

Only a leftist deals with "absolut's" and classifications on race, gender, religion to further their own goals.

It is the left who claims to care for the poor, the sick, the downtrodden and yet after all the promises, all the taxes, all the speeches... the poor are still poor, the oppressed are still the oppressed, yet the "ringleaders" get richer and richer...

It is the left who will start the war, but not finish it

250 MES41067  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:54:41pm

And the KIDS are classic ass hats.

251 NYC Cowgirl  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:38:47pm

Has anyone told the Daily Kooks that GW is not running for President again?

252 Ban Draoi  Fri, May 9, 2008 11:05:35pm

Good grief.

If I were a Wiccan I would die of embarrassment.


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