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Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:12:01 am PDT

Hope is a waking dream.

Aristotle

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1 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:13:45am

Morning Lizards!

2 hoffmonster  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:14:52am

morning folks!

3 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:15:10am

Morning rightside! You seem to magically appear along with the morning thread fairly often :) What is your secret?

4 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:16:15am

Good morning, Lizards,

5 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:16:19am

re: #3 galloping granny

I get up at 5 and login, then read the news and blogs and keep hitting refresh til it appears! ;^)

6 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:17:34am

Morning hoffmonster, gg, and goddess!

7 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:18:42am

re: #5 rightside

I get up at 5 and login, then read the news and blogs and keep hitting refresh til it appears! ;^)

HAHA - I see. How're things with you this morning?

8 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:19:31am

re: #7 galloping granny

pretty good here, and you?

9 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:19:35am

Goddess! How's things? Almost done with school? and Hoffmonster - you must be new. . . . nice to meet you.

10 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:19:46am
Hope is a waking dream.

Aristotle

Ahh but when you have real hope life is a beautiful dream.

Good morning rightside, goddess, hoffmonster, galloping granny.

11 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:20:07am

re: #8 rightside

pretty good here, and you?

Just fine. Going to be another beautiful day, already 54F out.

12 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:20:28am

{rightside}
{gallopinggranny}
{hoffmonster}

Looks like it's going to be a wet day, but we need some rain.

13 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:20:49am

Morning to you too Blue.

14 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:21:19am

{BlueCanouck}!

Another three weeks of school, gg--it's going really fast.

15 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:21:39am

re: #12 goddessoftheclassroom

{rightside}
{gallopinggranny}
{hoffmonster}

Looks like it's going to be a wet day, but we need some rain.

We apparently are going to get a shower or two this morning as well. Which is OK - means I don't have to water the garden.

16 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:23:07am

re: #14 goddessoftheclassroom

{BlueCanouck}!

Another three weeks of school, gg--it's going really fast.

Always does. My daughter the teacher (history) got two fellowships for the summer, one in Ohio I think it is and another down at the national park in Lowell, so Granny gets the baby girl for a whole week. I can't wait!

17 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:23:17am

re: #14 goddessoftheclassroom

{BlueCanouck}!

Another three weeks of school, gg--it's going really fast.

Oops, thought I fixed that typo:

{BlueCanuck}

18 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:23:17am

Hope is a waking dream.
And Obama is it's Prophet.

19 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:23:50am

re: #16 galloping granny

Perfect for all of you!

20 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:24:40am

Good morning too all I haven greeted B4! ;)

21 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:25:23am

re: #17 goddessoftheclassroom

Oops, thought I fixed that typo:

{BlueCanuck}

No problem, I am used to people misspelling my last name all the time. :)

/you wouldn't believe the ways it could be spelt.

22 littleoldlady  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:25:59am

Hope is a waking dream.

POWERBALL!

23 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:26:01am

Hola Miguel

24 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:26:04am

}MigueldowninMexico}

I love my Lizard friends!

25 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:26:43am

re: #22 littleoldlady

Hope is a waking dream.

POWERBALL!

LOL!

26 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:27:02am

re: #24 goddessoftheclassroom

}MigueldowninMexico}

I love my Lizard friends!


I know what you mean, goddess! :)

27 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:27:05am

re: #19 goddessoftheclassroom

Perfect for all of you!

Yup. Daughter was SO excited. And of course as a pretty new teacher (this was her first year) the fellowships are great for her career-wise. And something she'll find interesting.

28 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:27:26am

Canadiense Azul

29 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:27:32am

re: #22 littleoldlady

Hope is a waking dream.

POWERBALL!

THAT's the one!

30 LeftJustAintRight  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:27:55am

re: #22 littleoldlady

If you have the right numbers I would like them please

31 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:27:58am
Iranian-backed Hezbollah tightened its grip on Beirut airport on Thursday, piling pressure on Lebanon's U.S.-backed government on the second day of a protest campaign that has triggered gun battles in the capital.

[Link: www.alarabiya.net...]

32 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:28:29am

re: #30 LeftJustAintRight

If you have the right numbers I would like them please

By: leftjustaintright.

Meaning, the right numbers are left?
Hmmmm...

33 littleoldlady  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:30:25am

re: #30 LeftJustAintRight

If you have the right numbers I would like them please

Bwahahahahaha!

[gasp! gasp!]

Bwahahahahaha!

Thanks for the laugh, LeftJustAintRight! :-)

34 LeftJustAintRight  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:31:03am

re: #32 MigueldowninMexico

Meaning the wrong numbers dont help
The left numbers are the dems numbers and do not work
LOL

35 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:32:21am

THIS IS VERY RICH!
A Catholic newspaper in Malasya is been prosecuted by the government for using the word "Allah" when refering to "God".

Actually they are right, it is NOT the same.
Still, it sounds SO ironic to me LOL
A judge in Malaysia ruled, though, that the paper had the right to use the word.

/Horrible nightmares of Catholic editors with no head on their shoulders...

36 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:32:24am
Earlier this year, Iran's former top nuclear negotiator Hassan Rowhani complained that superstition was growing in the country and that people were even putting out food for the Mahdi in case he returned that very night.

Ahmadinejad also raised eyebrows when he said he felt surrounded by a mystical aura when he gave his first speech to the UN General Assembly in New York in 2005.

Similarly, in his latest speech, Ahmadinejad said the Mahdi had guided his "victory" in his famous talk to jeering students at Columbia University in New York last year where he was greeted as a "a petty and cruel dictator".

"I recalled the imam and I said to him 'help so that this scene is to the benefit of Islam'," he said.

Obama wants to reason with this man...vote McCain...even if you puke doing it. [Link: www.alarabiya.net...]

37 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:32:52am

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

38 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:33:09am

re: #34 LeftJustAintRight

Meaning the wrong numbers dont help
The left numbers are the dems numbers and do not work
LOL

Hahahaha. Good answer!

The dems have a sign: "Out of order" lol

39 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:33:51am

re: #35 MigueldowninMexico

THIS IS VERY RICH!
A Catholic newspaper in Malasya is been prosecuted by the government for using the word "Allah" when refering to "God".

Actually they are right, it is NOT the same.
Still, it sounds SO ironic to me LOL
A judge in Malaysia ruled, though, that the paper had the right to use the word.

/Horrible nightmares of Catholic editors with no head on their shoulders...

Don't call me Hussein!

40 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:35:21am

re: #33 littleoldlady

littleoldlady, I think you're attaining the level of Superstition!

41 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:35:54am

re: #36 storagemanager

Obama wants to reason with this man...vote McCain...even if you puke doing it. [Link: www.alarabiya.net...]

{storagemanager}

While I'm not thrilled with McCain, I don't fear the consequences of his being in office as much as I do Obama's.

42 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:36:20am

re: #37 opnion

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

{opnion}

Good morning!

43 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:36:28am

re: #39 opnion

Don't call me Hussein!

LOL Ok, long-legged freak then LOL

Good morning ;)

44 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:37:50am

re: #43 MigueldowninMexico

LOL Ok, long-legged freak then LOL

Good morning ;)

That's better.How are you sleeping?

45 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:37:54am

re: #41 goddessoftheclassroom

{storagemanager}

While I'm not thrilled with McCain, I don't fear the consequences of his being in office as much as I do Obama's.

Ditto.

46 littleoldlady  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:38:39am

re: #40 MigueldowninMexico

Both my parents were born close enough to Transylvania to rub elbows with Vlad's relatives.

/what would you expect? ;-)

47 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:38:39am

re: #44 opnion

That's better.How are you sleeping?

Better now, thank God.
How about you? Have you finished the V.B treatment?

48 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:39:28am
TEHRAN – The Islamic Republic of Iran’s Shipping Lines (IRISL) plans to initiate a weekly shipping line to Venezuelan and Cuban ports, the IRISL Europe line department Manager, Saeed Meghdadi said here on Wednesday.
“This line was initiated in accordance to the general policies of the Islamic Republic of Iran for supporting and expanding non-oil exports and in response to the numerous requests made by merchants,” he explained, Mehr reported.

Nice way to transport weapons [Link: www.mehrnews.com...]

49 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:39:43am

re: #46 littleoldlady

Both my parents were born close enough to Transylvania to rub elbows with Vlad's relatives.

/what would you expect? ;-)

/Hides the tomato juice.
//NO bloody maries for you!

///And the word "impaling" will be forbidden from now on ;)

50 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:40:41am

re: #46 littleoldlady

Both my parents were born close enough to Transylvania to rub elbows with Vlad's relatives.

/what would you expect? ;-)

You must have had so much street cred as a kid!

51 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:41:45am

storage.
Let them find the looooooow quality of Persian goods LOL

52 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:42:14am

re: #49 MigueldowninMexico

I don't think we have a thing to worry about from littleoldlady. There's probably enough garlic running through her veins to give any vampire serious heart burn. :)

53 littleoldlady  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:42:27am

re: #50 goddessoftheclassroom

You must have had so much street cred as a kid!

Nah. I couldn't read a map until I was in my 20's! ;-)

{goddess!} :-)

54 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:42:33am

re: #41 goddessoftheclassroom

{storagemanager}

While I'm not thrilled with McCain, I don't fear the consequences of his being in office as much as I do Obama's.

Exactly. Even though I disagree with him about many things, I know that he has served this nation honorably since he was 17 years old.

55 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:42:39am

re: #52 BlueCanuck

I don't think we have a thing to worry about from littleoldlady. There's probably enough garlic running through her veins to give any vampire serious heart burn. :)

HAHAHAHAHAHA.
Good reflexion LOL

56 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:42:44am

re: #47 MigueldowninMexico

Better now, thank God.
How about you? Have you finished the V.B treatment?

I am doing better, but nowhere near where I want to be.
It is not consistent.I take Vitamin B for a while & then stop for a few days.
Bottom line, definitely better.Thanks

57 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:43:33am

re: #56 opnion

I am doing better, but nowhere near where I want to be.
It is not consistent.I take Vitamin B for a while & then stop for a few days.
Bottom line, definitely better.Thanks

Glad to read that! :)

58 yesandno  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:44:26am

HOPE is a four letter word....

And has been ever since Bill Clinton claimed he came from there

And Obama claims to want to take us there.....

Rhymes with Dope...

Which Bill claimed he never inhaled

And Obama is....

59 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:45:14am

littleoldlady
I think your ancestors are mentioned here.

60 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:46:02am

re: #58 yesandno

Unfortunately those two have changed HOPE into a four letter word. *sigh*

/but I still have that which Pandora found in her chest at the last.

61 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:46:47am

re: #46 littleoldlady

Both my parents were born close enough to Transylvania to rub elbows with Vlad's relatives.

/what would you expect? ;-)

The Count fought invading Muslim armies. He is actually considered a hero in his Province.

62 littleoldlady  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:46:58am

re: #59 MigueldowninMexico

littleoldlady
I think your ancestors are mentioned here.

It's alive! It's alive!

;-)

63 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:47:21am

re: #61 opnion

The Count fought invading Muslim armies. He is actually considered a hero in his Province.

As well he should be.

64 littleoldlady  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:47:41am

re: #61 opnion

Good 'ole Cousin Vlad! :-)

opnion! :-)

65 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:47:43am

Here I sit..while the wife and the dog sleep...drinking coffee rocket fuel...woe is me.

66 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:47:56am

re: #62 littleoldlady

It's alive! It's alive!

;-)

Hahahahahaha

67 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:48:13am

re: #63 galloping granny

As well he should be.

Yup, he won

68 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:48:16am

re: #61 opnion

Not just his province, the whole country of Romania.

/told by a fellow co-worker who was Romanian.

69 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:48:23am

re: #63 galloping granny

As well he should be.

I agree.

70 littleoldlady  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:48:46am

What's a little blood between family?

I have to go. :-(

Good day, ALL!™

71 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:49:19am

re: #70 littleoldlady

What's a little blood between family?

I have to go. :-(

Good day, ALL!™

Good bye LoL!
Have a great day ;)

72 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:49:24am

re: #62 littleoldlady

It's alive! It's alive!

;-)

"Well not literally"

73 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:50:12am

re: #68 BlueCanuck

Not just his province, the whole country of Romania.

/told by a fellow co-worker who was Romanian.

That is true. He really rallied the troops & saved the homeland

74 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:50:40am

re: #70 littleoldlady

have a great day oh bearer of Fruitcup™. May your weekend be wonderful.

75 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:51:13am

re: #73 opnion

That is true. He really rallied the troops & saved the homeland

And didn't impale the heads of the slain enemies as a triumph/warning?

/sometimes ruthlessness is effective...

76 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:52:26am

OK, time for me to disappear ;)
Good bye and God bless all :)

77 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:52:32am

re: #75 goddessoftheclassroom

Ummm no, not exactly. Prisoners rode the pole, alive.

/sharp end first.

78 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:53:05am

Anybody catch Anderson Cooper last night?
David Gergen & Joe Klien were on. They were scolding all who scrutinize Barrys character.It is mean & racist dncha know.
It is time for Hillary to drop out & McCain to lay down.Barry deserves to be President cause they say so.

79 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:53:34am

re: #75 goddessoftheclassroom

And didn't impale the heads of the slain enemies as a triumph/warning?

/sometimes ruthlessness is effective...

No, he impaled the entire enemy. Alive. Put the fear of G_d into them. Those were barbaric times and he was fighting an army 100X the size of the one he had.

80 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:54:04am

re: #77 BlueCanuck

Ummm no, not exactly. Prisoners rode the pole, alive.

/sharp end first.

EWWWW, not so cool. Still, you can't argue that it didn't send a message...

81 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:54:23am

re: #78 opnion

Anybody catch Anderson Cooper last night?
David Gergen & Joe Klien were on. They were scolding all who scrutinize Barrys character.It is mean & racist dncha know.
It is time for Hillary to drop out & McCain to lay down.Barry deserves to be President cause they say so.

Nope, sorry. I don't waste my few remaining brain cells on Anderson Cooper and those he wastes airwaves on.

82 jollyjew  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:55:08am

Hungover...

Crazy night @ downtown Jerusalem!

83 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:55:18am

re: #80 goddessoftheclassroom

Yes, very effective too. I even heard of some people being given a short pole. Crucifixion was more humane by comparison.

84 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:55:37am

re: #75 goddessoftheclassroom

And didn't impale the heads of the slain enemies as a triumph/warning?

/sometimes ruthlessness is effective...

He went even a little further.That is why he was known as Vlad the Impaler(Whole Bodies), Gruesome , but effective. It demoralized the invaders.
It was that practice that inspired Bram Stoker.

85 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:55:47am

re: #80 goddessoftheclassroom

EWWWW, not so cool. Still, you can't argue that it didn't send a message...

And do remember what the muslims who were invading his country did to every prisoner they caught and every town that they captured. You'll find it all in the koran.

86 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:56:36am

re: #82 jollyjew

Hungover...

Crazy night @ downtown Jerusalem!

I bet. Happy Birthday!

87 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:57:30am

On that pleasant note, I'm "Vlad" we had our usual time together...


Take care, Lizards!

88 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:57:54am

re: #81 galloping granny

Nope, sorry. I don't waste my few remaining brain cells on Anderson Cooper and those he wastes airwaves on.

I find that wearing ear plugs keeps my brain from dripping out.
That is a taste of the way the MSM is going to go.
They will deal the race card.

89 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:58:17am

Later goddess, have a fun day.

90 madmax517  Thu, May 8, 2008 3:59:31am

Another reason for literacy tests in voting: U-tube video link at michelle malkin's blog dedicated the obamalkamdingdong.

Im'a vote obama-way!
We hood
We votin'
We throwin' it up

Yes, pardon me while I barf. Im'a just a typical white cracker and I be racist if I doan vote Obama, but not racist if 90+ % of blacks do?

91 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:00:14am

re: #88 opnion

I find that wearing ear plugs keeps my brain from dripping out.
That is a taste of the way the MSM is going to go.
They will deal the race card.

We are making a concerted effort here to cut our energy consumption. Not for any "green" reason at all - just warms the cockles of my thrifty heart to save $$$ when I can. As a result, we don't turn on the TVs much. I think we are the only 5 TV household in the universe that can go days without having one on other than to play video games or watch a movie.

92 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:01:02am

re: #91 galloping granny

We are making a concerted effort here to cut our energy consumption. Not for any "green" reason at all - just warms the cockles of my thrifty heart to save $$$ when I can. As a result, we don't turn on the TVs much. I think we are the only 5 TV household in the universe that can go days without having one on other than to play video games or watch a movie.

Good move

93 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:02:22am

re: #90 madmax517

Another reason for literacy tests in voting: U-tube video link at michelle malkin's blog dedicated the obamalkamdingdong.

Im'a vote obama-way!
We hood
We votin'
We throwin' it up

Yes, pardon me while I barf. Im'a just a typical white cracker and I be racist if I doan vote Obama, but not racist if 90+ % of blacks do?

Since Obama had already informed me that I am just an embittered Typical White Person clinging to my guns, my religion and whatever else it was, I figure I have already been labeled a racist and will vote accordingly.

Sticks & stones. . . . .

/I'm sure as hell not going to hand that ass the presidency just so I won't be called a racist!

94 madmax517  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:06:56am

re: #91 galloping granny


I think it helps to unplug the TVs as the instant on feature sucks energy 24/7. At least my electric bill went down. I'm sure water heaters use much more, but here in Fla. the tank isn't cooling down that much sitting around. Wondering how the $120+ barrel of oil cost will be reflected in what FPL charges. We really need to build nuclear plants. Greens say no, but even the French embrace nukes wholeheartedly.

95 Mich-again  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:11:11am

The dummy is a glutton for punishment. Dan Rather resubmits lawsuit against CBS.

Rather said the reason he is going through the legal proceedings is to find out what happened in the wake of the 2004 "60 Minutes II" report on President Bush's military service during the Vietnam War.

"The story was true. What we said in the report was true, despite what others have tried to have you believe about the documents, which were one, and only one, part of the story," Rather said.

If he really believes those words coming out of his mouth then he is truly and profoundly ignorant. My gosh.

96 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:11:58am

re: #93 galloping granny


/I'm sure as hell not going to hand that ass the presidency just so I won't be called a racist!

Now that's not very progressive of you ... "self-criticism" is an essential component in the creation of a just society.

/Good Morning!

97 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:12:46am

re: #94 madmax517

I think it helps to unplug the TVs as the instant on feature sucks energy 24/7. At least my electric bill went down. I'm sure water heaters use much more, but here in Fla. the tank isn't cooling down that much sitting around. Wondering how the $120+ barrel of oil cost will be reflected in what FPL charges. We really need to build nuclear plants. Greens say no, but even the French embrace nukes wholeheartedly.

If you have a chance to install tankless hot water do. That is what we have and I can't say enough good things about it. Really hot water, instantly, we never run out and we waste no energy keeping it warm.

The good news is that in all of the states electricity is a public utility. They cannot just raise rates and are not guaranteed a profit. It usually takes at least a year for them to get a rate increase and in some states they are only allowed a rate increase every so often.

We're trying to find a way to heat the house without oil, not an easy task since there really is no place for a wood stove.

98 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:13:01am

re: #94 madmax517

The "greens" want us living in caves eating bugs.

99 BulgarWheat  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:13:09am

"The story was true. What we said in the report was true, despite what others have tried to have you believe about the documents, which were one, and only one, part of the story," Rather said.

What a fargin' maroon! It was the "one" part of the story that was quickly discredited. I saw it all unfold right here sitting on my back deck.

It was a beautiful day! It was an historic day!

100 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:15:25am

re: #96 Lucius Septimius

Now that's not very progressive of you ... "self-criticism" is an essential component in the creation of a just society.

/Good Morning!

Good Morning Lucius. Sorry about that. My ancestors have been doing their bit for a just society for several hundred years now - and that includes my Southern white mother who peeled onions every morning at 4 am to pay for her education so that the family could pay for the black maid's daughter to go to college on the grounds that if they didn't help then the maid's daughter would have no opportunity. I feel absolutely NO guilt and absolutely NO compunction to any self criticism.

Ever notice how progressivism so often ends up progressing to the rear?

101 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:15:27am
102 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:16:16am

re: #100 galloping granny

Ever notice how progressivism so often ends up progressing to the rear?

I get that impression from the pictures Zombie posts from San Francisco...

103 Mich-again  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:16:56am

re: #99 BulgarWheat

It was a beautiful day! It was an historic day!

Yes it was. But for Dan Rather to cling to the notion that the documents were never proven to be fakes discredits him entirely. No wonder he can't get another gig. He is a laughingstock and a nut case.

104 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:17:41am

re: #102 JamesTKirk

I get that impression from the pictures Zombie posts from San Francisco...

San Francisco and Berkeley are the modern Sodom and Gommorah. Absolute nuthouses. A stain on the undershorts of all humanity.

105 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:19:25am

TEHRAN (Reuters) - A group of hardline lawmakers plans to complain to the Intelligence Ministry about comments by moderate former President Mohammad Khatami deemed insulting to Iran's revolutionary leader, a newspaper reported on Wednesday.

The daily Etemad-e Melli said 77 lawmakers would ask Intelligence Minister Gholamhossein Mohseni-Ejei "to confront" Khatami for the remarks they say insulted the late founder of the Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

The newspaper did not say when the formal complaint would be lodged and did not give further details.

The row reflects a political divide between those in Iran, like President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, seeking a return to hardline policies of the early revolutionary days and pro-reform figures, like Khatami, who seek political and social change.

In a speech on Friday, Khatami questioned the meaning of "exporting the revolution," a phrase coined when Khomeini led the country as supreme leader. Khomeini, who died in 1989, remains a figure much revered by all political factions.

Nearby Gulf Arab states and others took fright at the phrase at the time, seeing it as a bid by Iran to stoke revolt in their countries. Khatami's presidency was characterized by a bid to improve Iran's relations with Arabs and the West.

[Link: aawsat.com...]

106 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:21:46am

re: #104 galloping granny

San Francisco and Berkeley are the modern Sodom and Gommorah. Absolute nuthouses. A stain on the undershorts of all humanity.

We know they practiced sodomy in Sodom, but what evil perversion did they practice in Gommorah? It was apparently so bad that all records and accounts have been destroyed...

107 madmax517  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:22:16am

re: #97 galloping granny

The local electric FPL lets its infrastructure go to the dogs. That much was quite evident during the hurricanes. They usually get a rubber stamp on increases and any increase in fuel costs is just added to one's bill.

My water/sewer bill is $30 a month and I have no pool or lawn watering costs. That is paid for in my association assessments. LOts of sewage in s. fla. is dumped in Atlantic ocean. That will soon change as the greens have sued and new plants and treatments will be ordered. Talk is Hollywood's consumer's water bills will be $100 a month. Anyway in Palm Beach we just had a 12% increase and plus their is an inflation index for annual raises.

Bellsouth was taken over by ATT again and those bills are rising fast.
It seems to me that the various thieves get plenty of profits and shareholders get the rewards and never any real risks of a downside. If people conserve, then income drops and the companies want higher rates.

108 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:25:03am

re: #106 JamesTKirk

We know they practiced sodomy in Sodom, but what evil perversion did they practice in Gommorah? It was apparently so bad that all records and accounts have been destroyed...

One of my friends in college was of the opinion that "gommory", whatever it was, was so offensive to God that He made it physically impossible for humanity to ever do it again. He thinks that it involved the appendix, before God shriveled it up...

109 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:25:11am

It's dead..kick dirt in it's face and move on.

110 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:26:23am

re: #96 Lucius Septimius

Now that's not very progressive of you ... "self-criticism" is an essential component in the creation of a just society.

/Good Morning!

Verily I say to thee., we will not have a truly just society until every White cracker jumps up on the cross.
Slavery must be atoned for and it does not matter that you or no one in your family ever owned a slave.It really doesn't matter if none of your people were here yet.Collective guilt you see.
Therefore you must hand the keys to the White House to guy who as far as we know never had a slave in his lineage. You'll feel better

111 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:26:26am

re: #103 Mich-again

Yes it was. But for Dan Rather to cling to the notion that the documents were never proven to be fakes discredits him entirely. No wonder he can't get another gig. He is a laughingstock and a nut case.

He's craving attention, and this is the only way he can get it. He'll be warning us all about Manbearpig next.

112 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:27:35am

re: #110 opnion

...Therefore you must hand the keys to the White House to guy who as far as we know never had a slave in his lineage. You'll feel better

Ironically, we do know that Obama has slave owners in his lineage, on his mother's side. Let him atone for himself.

113 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:27:42am

re: #106 JamesTKirk

We know they practiced sodomy in Sodom, but what evil perversion did they practice in Gommorah? It was apparently so bad that all records and accounts have been destroyed...

I have on good authority that in Gommorah they practiced dwarf tossing.

114 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:27:42am

re: #100 galloping granny

Good Morning Lucius. Sorry about that. My ancestors have been doing their bit for a just society for several hundred years now - and that includes my Southern white mother who peeled onions every morning at 4 am to pay for her education so that the family could pay for the black maid's daughter to go to college on the grounds that if they didn't help then the maid's daughter would have no opportunity. I feel absolutely NO guilt and absolutely NO compunction to any self criticism.

And you have no reason to feel guilty. The logic they employ is Stalinist -- that or the sort of thing you encounter in cults.

Ever notice how progressivism so often ends up progressing to the rear?

That's because of its origins in socialism and populism. The various "worker's" struggles have always been reactionary -- reactions against the material progress of capitalism and the moral/political progress of human freedom." They want an orderly society, one where we each serve our proper "function," but that should be determined for us by our betters. In that regard progressivism/socialism always presumes, explicitly or otherwise, of a political elite who determines what we are to do. Their ideal is this romanticized pre-industrial idyll where we all live in little communities under the beneficent leadership of virtuous aristocrats. But the fantasy is driven be fear of the disorder that comes with freedom and with the disruptive effects of the herd getting more money.

Historically speaking, economic growth is essential for the political emancipation of the masses; containing or stopping growth is key for the elite to maintain its power. This is why the biggest industrialists are actually socialists -- "big business" loves "big government" and always has, because if they can use the power of the state to crush the competition, they never have to worry about the servile labor force finding any employment other than what they provide.

Thus understood, "progress" leads not to the promised utopia, Lenin's paradise of commodities," but to serfdom. Hayek had it right.

115 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:27:52am

re: #107 madmax517

The local electric FPL lets its infrastructure go to the dogs. That much was quite evident during the hurricanes. They usually get a rubber stamp on increases and any increase in fuel costs is just added to one's bill.

My water/sewer bill is $30 a month and I have no pool or lawn watering costs. That is paid for in my association assessments. LOts of sewage in s. fla. is dumped in Atlantic ocean. That will soon change as the greens have sued and new plants and treatments will be ordered. Talk is Hollywood's consumer's water bills will be $100 a month. Anyway in Palm Beach we just had a 12% increase and plus their is an inflation index for annual raises.

Bellsouth was taken over by ATT again and those bills are rising fast.
It seems to me that the various thieves get plenty of profits and shareholders get the rewards and never any real risks of a downside. If people conserve, then income drops and the companies want higher rates.

Here in VT our water/sewer runs about $60 a month or so. I don't water the lawn at all and water the vegetable garden only when things get really dry - rare in New England.

We get around the super high phone rates here in VT (the phone companies are allowed to charge for local service greater than 200 minutes a month by the minute) by paying for a bare line and using Vonage instead. Since almost everyone we know is long distance, we save a huge bundle.

116 laZardo  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:28:12am

"Hope is a waking dream." Then what does that make change?

Good evening, y'all!

117 Pater Coop  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:28:18am

Coffee Doggerel

You are my addiction, my only addiction (Whew! one's enough)
You make me happy
When skies are grey ('cause it's too dang early in the morning to have to go to work)
You'll never know, dear, how much I love you (seeing as you are a personified, collective, abstract concept)
Please don't take my coffee awaaay (or I'll drop a nuke on somebody!)

118 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:28:35am

re: #112 JamesTKirk

Ironically, we do know that Obama has slave owners in his lineage, on his mother's side. Let him atone for himself.

I read on his fathers side as well."Dreams of My Father", indeed

119 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:28:55am

re: #104 galloping granny

"America's scorch mark"

120 laZardo  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:29:10am

re: #105 storagemanager

They're starting to turn on their own over there...looks like they'll have to turn up the rhetoric.

121 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:29:31am

re: #116 laZardo

Good morning/evening! How are things on the Pacific rim?

122 madmax517  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:30:11am

re: #99 BulgarWheat


But Lurch was a big hero in 'Nam for less than four months! After all he did get those purple hearts and removed himself from further harm's way. I mean splinters blasted into your ass are a grievous injury, eh? And algore, the senator's son, had bodyguards while he toiled outside the actual combat areas. I thought flying those jets for TANG was exceeedingly danegrous; maybe not as much as the night carrier landings of a McCain. You know the media will treat Mccain service with disdain.

Did Dan Blather ever bitch about his buddy Clinton's military service of draft evasions and protesting the war in Europe? How come Obambi as potential potus isn't seen as a chickenhawk? So much hypocrisy. What's the frequency, Kenneth? No Mr. President, are you?

123 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:30:51am

re: #117 Pater Coop

Please don't take my coffee awaaay (or I'll drop a nuke on somebody!)

Since Babs isn't here yet...

124 BulgarWheat  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:31:47am

re: #103 Mich-again

yeah, but he's a clinger now? Shucks, I thought that was just us rednecked good old boys.

125 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:31:48am

re: #120 laZardo

They're starting to turn on their own over there...looks like they'll have to turn up the rhetoric.


The so called moderates will all be in prison soon...just like Nazi Germany...the purge is coming.

126 laZardo  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:31:52am

re: #121 Lucius Septimius

Just got an internship (here referred to as "OJT" or On-the-Job Training.) Stuffs my portfolio, so I'm content.

At least until I read about how my birth city was likened to Sodom...

127 Widow'smight  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:32:07am

re: #108 JamesTKirk

When your butt's toward the sky like a big Pizza Pie, that's Gomorray.

128 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:32:39am

re: #127 Widow'smight

When your butt's toward the sky like a big Pizza Pie, that's Gomorray.

+ding!

bbl...

129 BulgarWheat  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:33:12am

re: #122 madmax517

pssst! Got some news for you. AlGore does not have a DD214,....because he was not in the Army. He was a "journalist" attached to the State Department.

Not exactly the same thing.

130 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:33:34am

re: #122 madmax517

Yo, Rather bust6ed out of USMC boot camp! Seriously.

131 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:33:43am
Myanmar's Burma's cyclone survivors do not have enough fuel to burn the rotting corpses of the dead as the country's military junta continues to drag its feet over access for aid groups.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

132 Pater Coop  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:34:07am

re: #123 JamesTKirk

lol Nice one!

133 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:35:11am

re: #130 opnion

Yo, Rather bust6ed out of USMC boot camp! Seriously.

THAT explains why he is the way he is about our military!

134 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:35:48am

re: #130 opnion

Yo, Rather bust6ed out of USMC boot camp! Seriously.

I mean "Busted" bust6ed is the Latin derivative.

135 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:35:52am

re: #126 laZardo

Well, congratulations -- any chance for full time employment out of this?

136 laZardo  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:36:42am
137 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:37:30am

re: #133 galloping granny

THAT explains why he is the way he is about our military!

Uh Huh, but he used tolike to palm himself off as an Ex Marine until the info leaked.
"what's the frequency kenneth?"

138 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:37:30am
ST. ANTHONY, Idaho — A suspected illegal immigrant has been charged with raping a 10-year-old girl who later gave birth in eastern Idaho.

The girl gave birth less than two weeks ago by caesarian section at Madison Memorial Hospital in Rexburg, Fremont County Sheriff Ralph C. Davis and other authorities said. Officials would not disclose the gender, date of birth or paternity of the baby.

"I wouldn't have believed a 10-year-old could conceive in the first place," Davis said.

A hospital spokeswoman would not discuss the condition of the girl or the baby and would not say whether either was still in the hospital Wednesday.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

139 laZardo  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:37:56am

re: #135 Lucius Septimius

I'm actually hoping to get the OJT requirements done before the end of the year and get back to the States before I graduate. The financial aid/scholarship well is pretty dry for those already with degrees, and the tuition for master's courses are sky high...

140 madmax517  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:38:16am

re: #118 opnion


Isn't it a fact that daddy dearest Obama senior was more Arab than Kenyan black? I recall seeing somewhere that Hussein's actual lineage makes him more arabic than anything else. But of course he's running as an african-american. Hope! Change! Rezko! Ayers/Dohrn! Wright! et al! And look at Barry's own two autobios saying how much he eschewed the white mammy and embraced BLT.
I particularly dislike his interpretation that the laws should be interpreted as an evolving social justice issue. He could never support a John Roberts as a justice of the Supremes. Only far left loons are to be considered.

141 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:39:30am
142 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:40:03am

re: #139 laZardo

I'm actually hoping to get the OJT requirements done before the end of the year and get back to the States before I graduate. The financial aid/scholarship well is pretty dry for those already with degrees, and the tuition for master's courses are sky high...

Understand, good luck.

143 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:40:31am

re: #140 madmax517

Isn't it a fact that daddy dearest Obama senior was more Arab than Kenyan black? I recall seeing somewhere that Hussein's actual lineage makes him more arabic than anything else. But of course he's running as an african-american. Hope! Change! Rezko! Ayers/Dohrn! Wright! et al! And look at Barry's own two autobios saying how much he eschewed the white mammy and embraced BLT.
I particularly dislike his interpretation that the laws should be interpreted as an evolving social justice issue. He could never support a John Roberts as a justice of the Supremes. Only far left loons are to be considered.

I read that about his Arab blood lines. Don't know how true it is.
What is undisputed is that his father was very Arab centric. Ergo, Barack Hussein.

144 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:40:42am

re: #138 storagemanager

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Now see, that is one of the few circumstances where I think very early abortion might be the right thing to do. Little girls of 10 have no business having babies and often die trying.

The Sheriff had best take an anatomy & physiology class.

145 Widow'smight  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:41:17am

re: #136 laZardo

It would be interesting to do a study on how Police Departments change tactics due to "Racial Tensions", etc. I'd imagine the effect on crime in those areas where Policing was reduced/changed due to such Idiots as Sharpton would not be good. Then they can protest again about lack of Police protection.

BBL, must take mini-mom to school for Play Practice.

146 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:41:43am

re: #140 madmax517


I particularly dislike his interpretation that the laws should be interpreted as an evolving social justice issue. He could never support a John Roberts as a justice of the Supremes. Only far left loons are to be considered.

That's the thing I've been stressing for a while; this election is about the Supreme Court more than anything. Stevens can't hold on much longer, and Ginsberg is also highly likely to drop out soon. Whoever the next pres is will get to make at least one and probably two appointments. That is a concern for the long run, not just for four years.

147 madmax517  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:42:16am

re: #129 BulgarWheat


The point is neither Clinton or Algore got any grief from Danny about their past services in armed forces. I just had one moonbat ask me why McCain looks like a doofus muppet with weird arms and shoulders. Told her because the Vietnamese broke his bones torturing him for years. I'm sure Hanoi Jane would have shown great empathy to her own countrymen's suffering. Not

148 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:42:30am

re: #144 galloping granny

Now see, that is one of the few circumstances where I think very early abortion might be the right thing to do. Little girls of 10 have no business having babies and often die trying.

The Sheriff had best take an anatomy & physiology class.

It is an open secret that in Chicago, the police have the situation discretely
take care of.

149 laZardo  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:42:52am

I also noticed the Zionist Pepsi article...then I remembered this little picture:

[Link: img99.imageshack.us...]

150 opnion  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:43:17am

Adieu, mon amies.catch ya on the flip!

151 laZardo  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:43:44am

re: #145 Widow'smight

CYL, and have fun. (:

152 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:43:55am

re: #144 galloping granny

It all depends how far into term she was when it was discovered.

153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:44:09am

But, is it a "weet dream"?

154 Widow'smight  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:45:20am

re: #144 galloping granny


Me thinks Castration might be in order for the Perp. I have a 10 year old daughter, and that SOB would be glad to be alive if done to my little girl.

155 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:45:26am

re: #149 laZardo

I also noticed the Zionist Pepsi article...then I remembered this little picture:

[Link: img99.imageshack.us...]

I wonder what they hear when they play Led Zeppelin backwards?

156 laZardo  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:45:35am

re: #94 madmax517

The French sank the original Rainbow Warrior. They're not going to give up their nuclear power that easily.

157 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:46:05am

re: #148 opnion

It is an open secret that in Chicago, the police have the situation discretely
take care of.

I must be clueless this morning? In what way?re: #152 BlueCanuck

It all depends how far into term she was when it was discovered.

Since they knew that she had been raped, allowing the situation to go far enough into term undiscovered to make a forced pregnancy the better option for a 10 year old child would be extremely neglectful.

158 laZardo  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:46:17am

re: #155 Lucius Septimius

"Oh my...the Baha'is were right after all!"

159 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:46:27am

re: #154 Widow'smight

Me thinks Castration might be in order for the Perp. I have a 10 year old daughter, and that SOB would be glad to be alive if done to my little girl.

You and me both.

160 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:46:40am
She claims that her students violated her civil rights. She says student's "anti-intellectualism" made her life a living hell. So, this ex-Dartmouth professor is threatening to sue her students for the temerity to have doubted her harebrained theories on "eco-feminism" and the "French narrative theory."

[Link: www.newmediajournal.us...]

161 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:47:07am

re: #158 laZardo

"Oh my...the Baha'is were right after all!"

LOL!

162 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:47:47am

re: #157 galloping granny

No matter what. I think that blight upon the pimple of the ass of humanity should be thrown into the general population.

/let nature take it's course.

163 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:48:30am

re: #160 storagemanager

[Link: www.newmediajournal.us...]

I had a long email discussion with a couple of friends in the "biz" about this. We were all appalled. We wouldn't have been able to keep our jobs if we acted like that, much less get to move to a Research I institution.

164 Jim in Virginia  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:49:22am

re: #110 opnion

Slavery must be atoned for and it does not matter that you or no one in your family ever owned a slave.

I'm white, as far as anyone can tell, but my Virginia ancestors back in the 1780's show up in records as mulattoes. So I'm almost certain I have slaves as forebears. No proof that any ancestors owned slaves but it seems likely.
Do I owe reparations to myself?

165 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:50:05am

re: #164 Jim in Virginia

I'm white, as far as anyone can tell, but my Virginia ancestors back in the 1780's show up in records as mulattoes. So I'm almost certain I have slaves as forebears. No proof that any ancestors owned slaves but it seems likely.
Do I owe reparations to myself?

Isn't that what Social Security is?

166 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:50:36am

re: #165 Lucius Septimius

Isn't that what Social Security is?

heh.

167 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:52:39am

I need news...where is the news...give me news...or more coffee.

168 3 wood  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:54:26am

Good Morning Lizards.

Mornin' Veg.

Lucius, check your email.

Jammie, if you are lurking, you got mail too. :)

The White Sox got beat last night 13 - 1 and the Cubs got beat 9 - 0 giving up 7 taters. Chicago Bears players are busy either getting arrested or knocking up hookers.

*sigh*

Situation normal in Chicago.

169 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:54:50am

re: #137 opnion

Uh Huh, but he used tolike to palm himself off...

No wonder he went blind.

170 madmax517  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:54:59am

re: #156 laZardo

It is funny that the Euroweenies apparently are getting sick of socialism as they elect relative conservatives in places like England, Germany, Italy and France. Meanwhile, we are at risk of getting a marxist BLT potus here. Say it ain't so.

Those congressional cretins who voted to block so many things like nukes, oil refineries, opening ANWR and off shore drilling are killing us and lining pockets of islamofascists and of course their own pockets also. John McCain could have voted yes on anwr and it would have passed. How many billions did that stupid act cost consumers? How many additional people are starving and how much more cost due to corn ethanol production?

171 3 wood  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:56:37am

re: #154 Widow'smight

Me thinks Castration might be in order for the Perp. I have a 10 year old daughter, and that SOB would be glad to be alive if done to my little girl.

If that was my daughter, they would never find the perp's body.

172 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:56:46am

Well fellow lizards, my work day is done so I will bid you all an adieu and happy hunting. Later.

173 laZardo  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:57:15am

re: #170 madmax517

I don't know what act you're talking about, specifically. o_O

But seriously, either we don't drill in ANWR and the polar bears drown when the ice melts, or we do drill and drive them off their habitat to their extinction. So what's it gonna be, greenies?

I say we just switch them for the seals and get drill-happy.

174 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 4:58:19am

re: #146 Lucius Septimius

That's the thing I've been stressing for a while; this election is about the Supreme Court more than anything.

McCain's judicial advisor is the same guy responsible for David "Of course the government can take your land at any time for any reason" Souter.

175 Jim in Virginia  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:00:04am

re: #146 Lucius Septimius

That's the thing I've been stressing for a while; this election is about the Supreme Court more than anything.

I figure Barry makes a deal with Bill: Get her out of the race and you're my first Supreme Court nominee. If she is still campaigning in Denver, forget it.

176 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:00:05am

re: #156 laZardo

The French sank the original Rainbow Warrior. They're not going to give up their nuclear power that easily.

It was nice to see the French finally find someone that they wouldn't surrender to.

177 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:00:59am

re: #48 storagemanager

TEHRAN – The Islamic Republic of Iran’s Shipping Lines (IRISL) plans to initiate a weekly shipping line to Venezuelan and Cuban ports, the IRISL Europe line department Manager, Saeed Meghdadi said here on Wednesday.

That's Okay. I'll see your IRISL and raise you the United States Navy Fourth Fleet.

Top Navy admirals will recommend that the secretaries of defense and the Navy reactivate the Fourth Fleet and have its headquarters at Naval Station Mayport, U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., said Friday [Story from January 2008 --hd].

The Fourth Fleet, which was deactivated in the 1950s, would operate in waters off Latin America and the Caribbean. It would be commanded by a three-star admiral, who would report to Stavridis, and direct ships assigned to it as needed.

Nelson said several factors have prompted admirals to conclude Latin American and Caribbean waters require a fleet dedicated to them: the rising economic strength of Brazil, the belligerence of Venezuela, the increasing trade moving through the Panama Canal, and Cuban leader Fidel Castro's age.

The story I linked to is from January, but I think that Fourth Fleet has just been re-established, which was only a proposal at the time the story was written.
I was a part of Operation Praying Mantis in 1988, in which we sank half of Iran's navy. Just let these madmen try their tricks anywhere beyond the Straits of Hormuz, and they'll find out what "blue water" means.

178 3 wood  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:01:55am

re: #137 opnion

Did you see the White Sox game last night? Beuhrle was tipping his pitches again. I saw it on the first pitch of the game, I think the second pitch was hit out.

179 Ma Sands  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:02:23am

re: #175 Jim in Virginia

What a horrible thought! Bill Clinton is qualified to become a Supreme Court judge?!

180 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:03:42am

re: #179 Ma Sands

What a horrible thought! Bill Clinton is qualified to become a Supreme Court judge?!

He wasn't qualified to be a President either, but that didn't stop him.

181 laZardo  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:04:19am

re: #179 Ma Sands

The SC could always use more women anyway.

/

182 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:05:24am

re: #179 Ma Sands

What a horrible thought! Bill Clinton is qualified to become a Supreme Court judge?!


I thought he was disbarred.

183 3 wood  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:05:53am

re: #175 Jim in Virginia

I figure Barry makes a deal with Bill: Get her out of the race and you're my first Supreme Court nominee. If she is still campaigning in Denver, forget it.

I agree 100%. She can do a lot more to make the US socialist/communist (the goal of all lefties, I'm convinced) from the Supreme Court than by just being one of 100 Senators.

184 DistantThunder  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:05:53am

Went to daughter's and her new husband's graduation from college at Southern Virginia University near Lexington Virginia.

Took a mini tour of VMI in Lexington, and noted all the awesome looking cadets in uniform. Magnificent specimens of our species - contrast with Barak Obama, the uber-beta, metrosexual, Marxist, coward.

185 madmax517  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:06:42am

Where is Spincich lake Michigan? Can't find it in atlas. They had a national low of twenty the other day. That nasty global warming at work again. Or is it really spinach lake?

I see Collyforneeya is on the coolish side and will have cooler temps for next five years or so, but global warming will then ontinue apace.

Tomorrow calls for 88 here in Boca Raton, Fl and feels like 97. low tonight of 75. At least you people in Az and Nevada have a dry heat.
Btw, I understand German tourists love Death Valley weather. I'm told mechanics keep tools in water while working.

186 Ma Sands  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:07:50am

re: #182 storagemanager

Searching......sure hope that is true!

187 3 wood  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:08:02am

re: #183 3 wood


By my reply, I think Hillary will be put on the Supreme Court, not Bill.
By the way, is it just me or does Slick look real bad lately? I think the non-stop partying and skirt chasing is catching up to him.

188 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:09:49am
189 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:10:00am

re: #186 Ma Sands

Searching......sure hope that is true!


I guess it was only for 5 years...crap... [Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

190 BulgarWheat  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:10:32am

re: #147 madmax517

Good point. Sorry for the delayed response. Had to run the mini-wheats to school

191 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:10:38am

Well, it's been fun, but now I have to go to the first part of a two day "assessment workshop." Oh the Vogonity!

Have a great day, ya'll.

192 laZardo  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:11:07am

re: #188 BabbaZee

I'm not following you down there!

193 Ma Sands  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:12:18am

No, he was only suspended for five years..... ):

194 BulgarWheat  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:12:22am

re: #188 BabbaZee

what about feral remnants?

Good morning, most gracious Big OT!

Heil FIVE!

195 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:13:05am
196 Ma Sands  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:13:53am

Sorry, storagemanager --you're faster than I am, in searching.....

197 Irish Rose  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:14:02am

Morning, y'all.

I'm wrapping up my classes tonight, and I'll finally be able to sleep again... whoowa. Once the course wraps up, I can go ahead and take my CENA certification exams.

I've been learning to use the hoyer lift this week which is unnerving enough.... I've had to learn it, by using it to lift and transfer a very challenging patient - a lady completely disabled by MS and a closed head injury. I'm with her for four hours per day (takes that long to bathe her, dress her, transfer her at least 3 times with the hoyer.. she spends the entire session crying and telling me to f*ck off).

I have a sore back today, and I'm cranky.
But I'm here, and I have until 8:30 to eat my bagel and catch up.... anything interesting happen overnight?

198 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:14:14am

Morning again Lizards!

At work now, and youtubeless, but thank God for imeem!

199 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:15:53am

re: #197 Irish Rose

Congrats and good morning.

200 Ma Sands  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:16:14am

Got my Mother's Day present from my computer geek son, this morning:
a new computer monitor!

--now I can actually see all you Lizards! :)

201 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:16:51am

re: #106 JamesTKirk

We know they practiced sodomy in Sodom, but what evil perversion did they practice in Gommorah? It was apparently so bad that all records and accounts have been destroyed...

Kitten Juggling.

202 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:16:55am

re: #200 Ma Sands

now I can actually see all you Lizards! :)

*waves*

203 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:17:28am
204 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:17:50am

Good morning lizards... ((BabbaZee))

205 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:19:24am

re: #177 haakondahl

Excellent post, thanks for sharing that.

206 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:19:39am

re: #201 haakondahl

Kitten Juggling.

You win.

207 Ma Sands  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:19:44am

re: #197 Irish Rose

I admire you, for being in that kind of work! I visited a young cousin, 26 years old, a couple of times, in a nursing home that used that kind of lift equipment.........he has the brain of a new-born baby.......it was fascinating to watch the nurses at work........but, oh, my, did it look near-impossible to be able to do that, day after day!

208 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:19:46am

I saw "Why can't I just eat my waffle" at the top of the browser...Good choice.

209 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:21:31am

Lost my connection for a minute there....
Persecution!
{Everyone}

210 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:21:42am

re: #204 doriangrey

morning dorian!

211 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:21:58am

re: #209 BabbaZee

Lost my connection for a minute there....
Persecution!
{Everyone}

Go back to YouTube.

212 Ma Sands  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:22:16am

re: #202 JamesTKirk

:)

213 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:22:28am

re: #210 rightside

morning dorian!

Good morning to you sir........

214 pittrader1988  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:22:32am

My birthday today. Woke up to some sunshine in
Chicago. Ding dong the witch is dead.

215 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:23:02am

re: #195 JamesTKirk

Too down for me, life sucks and then you die?
Maybe for them......LOL

216 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:23:21am

re: #211 JamesTKirk

Go back to YouTube.

why

217 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:23:44am

Hugh Hewitt played a ten-minute (or so) clip of El Rushbo as Bill Clinton. It was just fall-down funny. Link in a few minutes.

218 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:24:23am
The Darul Uloom Deoband Islamic seminary reacted strongly to a proposal by the All-India Muslim Women’s Personal Law Board to set up separate mosques.

According to the daily, The Asian Age, the deputy in-charge of the edict department of the seminary, Mufti Ehsan Qasmi, told reporters in Deoband that Islam did not permit Muslim women to act as imams in mosques.

Maulana Naim-ur-Rahman Siddiqui, a scholar at the Nadwa Islamic seminary in the northern Indian city of Lucknow, has said that issues such as woman-led prayers and new women-only mosques were being borrowed from western countries.

Siddiqui argues that attempts were being made to distract attention from more pressing issues.

"Our Muslim sisters should rather be preoccupied with educating the young generation about their religion and protecting them from moral aberration," he said.

Earlier this week the board president, Shaista Amber had said: "The time has come for ulemas and Muslim leaders to set up separate mosques for women in every city so that women in the community can also offer namaz and attend religious congregations."

[Link: www.adnkronos.com...]

219 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:24:44am

re: #215 BabbaZee

Too down for me, life sucks and then you die?
Maybe for them......LOL

Life is wonderful, the part where it sucks is when you die...

220 Ma Sands  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:24:52am
221 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:25:23am

re: #216 BabbaZee

Because even if imeem.com worked for me (and it doesn't; nothing happens when I click the Play button) it's still just a 30 second sample.

And "Life Sucks... And Then You Die" by The Fools is a novelty song, not to be taken seriously.

222 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:25:53am

re: #221 JamesTKirk

Because even if imeem.com worked for me (and it doesn't; nothing happens when I click the Play button) it's still just a 30 second sample.

And "Life Sucks... And Then You Die" by The Fools is a novelty song, not to be taken seriously.

Bullshit it is the whole song

223 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:26:38am

re: #222 BabbaZee

Bullshit it is the whole song

Never works for me either, I always get a item not found message...

224 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:27:42am

re: #221 JamesTKirk


And "Life Sucks... And Then You Die" by The Fools is a novelty song, not to be taken seriously.

ya that I got LOL

I used the imeem because people complain every day here that they cant get to youtube

/mad blog rabble. Never satisfied

Anyway
since everyone wants to be the DJ now
anyway ...... who wants this time slot?

I'm freaking tired.

225 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:27:45am

re: #222 BabbaZee

Bullshit it is the whole song

Every time I click on one of your imeem links, I see this:

"The artist or label that owns this song has not approved full-length streaming for our users. This is a 30 second preview. To listen to the full song, upload it from your music library. Tell me more."

The slider bar for the song (which, as I said, won't play for me anyway) only runs from 0:00 to 0:30.

226 3 wood  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:27:46am

Sports Nerd Corner:

Looks like the New England Pats have more to worry about.

Ex-Pats employee Walsh sends NFL video of Pats' taping


After brokering a deal to protect himself, former New England Patriots employee Matt Walsh has finally turned over his evidence in the videotaping controversy.

The New York Times reported and the NFL confirmed on Wednesday that Walsh sent eight tapes to the league that show the Patriots recording the play-calling signals of five opponents in six games between 2000 and 2002.

Taping the signals of opposing teams is prohibited by league rules, and the Patriots were already fined $750,000 and docked a first-round draft choice in September for taping the New York Jets. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell left open the possibility that more penalties could be levied.

On the one hand, I think this is much ado about nothing. If you pay close attention to how teams line up and who they have on the field at the moment, and if you have some basic knowledge of offensive and defensive football strategy, you can tell over the TV what is coming most of the time.

For example, for years the Chicago Bears have had a "pass catching" tight end and a "run blocking" tight end. So, if you just pay attention to which tight end is in the game, you pretty mcuh know if the next play will be a run or pass (which by the way, is why the Bears are always very unsuccessful with play-action, the other team knows what's coming.). Then if you pay a little attention to down and distance tendancies, you can dial in pretty fast to what specifically the next play is likely to be and which specific player will be the primary receiver/carrier.

Another example is reading defensive sets. Last year for some reason, the Washington Redskins telegraphed on every defensive set whether they were blitzing or not by how the defensive line set up. If they lined up in the gaps between the offensive line, it was a 2 deep zone and no blitz. If they lined up man-on man, it was a man defense with blitzing up the gaps.

Every time.

It took me only 3 series of the first Redskins game last year for me to read that, and I'm not a professional coach. If I could do that, I have to figure most of the rest of the league read that too (McNabb by the way was amazingly unable to ever pick up on that read.). For the rest of the season I could call every defensive set the Redskins ran before the snap from my couch. So, taping the other teams signals is of very limited value in my mind.

However, it is still against the rules. The Pat's coaches know that, and so they deserve whatever the league ands down in further punishment. I'm not naive enough to think the Pat's are the only ones who taped other teams, but they got caught.

I see some more fines and some more draft picks next year forfeited for the Pats.

227 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:28:06am

re: #223 doriangrey

Never works for me either, I always get a item not found message...

I need a complaint department

228 madmax517  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:28:27am

Doomed....DOOMED I say!

LA Times says that there is a growing CONSENSUS in media that Hillary's bid for the democratic presidential nomination is doomed.
Oh those wonderful media elites. But how often are they wrong.

I know the NY Times endorsed McCain and now are attacking him in various BS ways. I forget which dem they endorsed. I guess s'luap nor campaign is likely doomed too, but he has money and keeps chugging along. Isn't it good that Hillary will at least keep some pressure on Barry Hussein's character even though jerkwads like David Gergen are screaming that his character should not be questioned?

229 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:28:33am

re: #225 JamesTKirk

Every time I click on one of your imeem links, I see this:

"The artist or label that owns this song has not approved full-length streaming for our users. This is a 30 second preview. To listen to the full song, upload it from your music library. Tell me more."

The slider bar for the song (which, as I said, won't play for me anyway) only runs from 0:00 to 0:30.

does not happen to me
so I dont know WTF to tell you on that

230 Ma Sands  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:28:52am

re: #224 BabbaZee

Go back to bed. Make sure the sun coming through the window bathes you while you are resting. It'll do you good. :)

231 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:29:22am

re: #227 BabbaZee

I need a complaint department

No, it's simple. Ignore everyone else's complaints, and listen to me. ;)

232 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:29:23am

re: #230 Ma Sands

Go back to bed. Make sure the sun coming through the window bathes you while you are resting. It'll do you good. :)

Impossible.

I can only lay for so long then I have to get up

i cant go to bed again for at least 4 hours LOL

233 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:29:34am

re: #231 JamesTKirk

No, it's simple. Ignore everyone else's complaints, and listen to me. ;)

LOL!

234 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:29:46am

re: #222 BabbaZee

They implemented a change at imeem, where if you don't sign up (free registration) you can only hear 30 seconds of the song, otherwise you can listen to it in its entirety.

235 haakondahl[deleted]  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:30:45am
236 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:31:04am

re: #234 rightside

They implemented a change at imeem, where if you don't sign up (free registration) you can only hear 30 seconds of the song, otherwise you can listen to it in its entirety.

I thought it might be something like that, but I refuse to even sign up for a free registration at most sites. Plus, as already noted, I can't even get the 30 second sample - and I am up to date with all of my drivers and codecs.

237 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:31:16am

re: #228 madmax517

Doomed....DOOMED I say!

LA Times says that there is a growing CONSENSUS in media that Hillary's bid for the democratic presidential nomination is doomed.
Oh those wonderful media elites. But how often are they wrong.

I know the NY Times endorsed McCain and now are attacking him in various BS ways. I forget which dem they endorsed. I guess s'luap nor campaign is likely doomed too, but he has money and keeps chugging along. Isn't it good that Hillary will at least keep some pressure on Barry Hussein's character even though jerkwads like David Gergen are screaming that his character should not be questioned?

David Gergen and his ilk are simply pointing out that it is unfair to question the character of individuals that have no character...If Shillary or the Obamanation had character they wouldnt be democrats....

238 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:31:38am

re: #234 rightside

They implemented a change at imeem, where if you don't sign up (free registration) you can only hear 30 seconds of the song, otherwise you can listen to it in its entirety.

OHHHHHHHHH kay

239 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:31:52am

re: #235 haakondahl

ROGERER!

240 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:32:13am

re: #237 doriangrey

David Gergen and his ilk are simply pointing out that it is unfair to question the character of individuals that have no character...

Isn't that the same reason why we can't question their patriotism?

241 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:33:06am

re: #239 BabbaZee

ROGERER!

Wow-w--w.... That was pretty good!

I'd rather Roger a thread than thread a Roger.

242 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:33:08am

re: #240 JamesTKirk

Isn't that the same reason why we can't question their patriotism?

Do red shirts die? You know it..

243 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:33:49am

re: #236 JamesTKirk

How odd, I am behind the NMCI firewall, and somethings I can see, and others I cannot.... I can listen to imeem songs, but cannot see their videos because of the flash player thing. Although I can view flash videos at other sites....

Who the F*** knows?

At least with imeem, you can tell the song name/artist with the link, unlink jihadtube, where all you see is Q83jaY76SB!

244 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:34:51am
245 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:35:02am

re: #235 haakondahl

target="_blank">Try this. It may hot work if you are not registered with Townhall.com, I don't know.

I'm not registered there, but the link (corrected) works for me.

246 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:35:15am

re: #241 haakondahl

well there ya go LOL

247 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:35:38am

re: #241 haakondahl

Wow-w--w.... That was pretty good!

I'd rather Roger a thread than thread a Roger.

................................... :O ........................ Not touching that one with a ten foot pole....

248 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:37:19am
249 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:37:51am

Try this instead. It'll try some Podcast nonsense, I don't know just what But this is the link from Townhall.com, and I have never had any trouble from their links--they're good. (It's where Hewitt, Prager, Medved, etc live online...)

250 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:38:37am

re: #248 taxfreekiller

[snap snap snap]

Clop, Clop, daddy o
righteous

251 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:39:01am

re: #245 JamesTKirk

I'm not registered there, but the link (corrected) works for me.

Man, you're good.

252 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:39:22am

re: #250 BabbaZee

[snap snap snap]

Clop, Clop, daddy o
righteous

The commas of DOOM,,,,,,,,,,,,,!

253 CapeCoddah  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:39:56am

Good Morning, lizard nation!
Anyone see this this morning?
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
I thought it was kind of interesting...

254 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:39:57am

re: #252 haakondahl

Fear the COMMA, infidel swine

255 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:40:04am

re: #251 haakondahl

Man, you're good.

That's what all the green women say.

256 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:40:07am

My wife is about to kill the dog.

257 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:40:32am

re: #256 storagemanager

My wife is about to kill the dog.

NOOOOOOOOooOOO!

258 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:40:45am

re: #255 JamesTKirk

That's what all the green women say.

Typical Green Bitches

259 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:41:11am

re: #248 taxfreekiller

its all comfy in the borg democrat party,
no personal responsibility in the borgdemocrat party,
warming inside the global borgdemocrat party,
all looking at the same mirror in the borgdemocrat party,

closer, closer, to the same gene code,
the code unlocked, the code blocked,
the close quarters, nickle made, scent cheap,
borgdemocrat party arm pits, borgdemocrat party noses all bent, Denver bound.


Whistles quietly to self in corner......

260 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:41:35am

Are they still strangling each other on the "evolution" thread ?

261 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:41:55am

re: #259 doriangrey

well now that you can read TFK you are officially a lizard

LOL

262 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:42:27am

re: #257 BabbaZee

NOOOOOOOOooOOO!


lol...she a plastic tube around her neck..to keep her from ripping the stitches...and she is banging on the floor..lol

263 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:42:41am

re: #261 BabbaZee

well now that you can read TFK you are officially a lizard

LOL

ROTFLMAO......................

264 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:42:49am

re: #255 JamesTKirk

That's what all the green women say.

Green folks. That's just how they'll do ya.

265 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:43:18am

re: #260 BabbaZee

Are they still strangling each other on the "evolution" thread ?

But of course. How else will only the fittest survive?

266 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:43:30am

re: #263 doriangrey

For the longest time I think only me and Roger understood what he was saying.

267 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:43:36am

re: #263 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO......................

Errr, still whistling quietly to self in corner....

268 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:44:06am

re: #264 haakondahl

Green folks. That's just how they'll do ya.

Racist. There's nothing wrong with Green Libertine Theology.

269 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:44:10am

Where's the evo thread this time?

270 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:44:15am

re: #265 JamesTKirk

But of course. How else will only the fittest survive?



SCIENCE!

fools.

271 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:44:33am

re: #266 BabbaZee

For the longest time I think only me and Roger understood what he was saying.

I understand him, but the universal translator helps.

272 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:44:42am

re: #265 JamesTKirk

But of course. How else will only the fittest survive?

Ummmm, the democrats will tax the unfit out of existence?

273 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:45:06am

re: #269 haakondahl

Where's the evo thread this time?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

274 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:45:29am
275 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:45:48am

Hillary to the DNC..it's all about me...if I lose...I'll take you with me....( yes..I made it up...but I bet it is true.)

276 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:46:07am

re: #272 doriangrey

Ummmm, the democrats will tax the unfit out of existence?

Nah, they'll sue to get rid of evolution, in order to put all species on an "even playing field".

277 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:46:09am

re: #270 BabbaZee

Thomas Dolby?

278 nonic  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:46:14am

Good morning, people.

Isn't (or wasn't) the idea of the CONVENTION to choose the party's candidate? Isn't that how it used to be done?

If so, why then do all the pundits call for Hillary to drop out before the convention?

Isn't one way of looking at this debacle to see Hillary's "grit" and "spunk" as recommendations FOR her being president? No one can claim she's weak because she's a woman.

I think one reason the party and pundits want her to give up is because they THINK then she'll stop attacking and exposing Obama. I think they're dreaming on that one.

If (when) Obama is named candidate, the best thing that could happen for Hillary is for him to lose and the Republican be elected president. Then in 4 years she can say, "See? You made a mistake last time. So nominate me NOW."

279 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:46:15am

re: #271 JamesTKirk

Of course you understand him
I would be very disappointed if you did not
I am speaking about when he first registered
lol

280 3 wood  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:46:23am

re: #248 taxfreekiller

its all comfy in the borg,
no personal responsibility in the borg,
warming inside the global borg,
all looking at the same mirror in the borg,

closer, closer, to the same gene code,
the code unlocked, the code blocked,
the close quarters, nickle made, scent cheap,
borg arm pits, borg noses all bent, Denver bound.

Good morning TFK. Hope you are doing well.

I'm looking forward to seeing the Democrat convention. The convergence of left wing wackos, MSM shills and outright US haters (but I repeat myself). How do they deal with the Michigan and Florida situation?

This should be fun.

281 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:46:32am

re: #269 haakondahl

Where's the evo thread this time?

The same place its always at.... in the backing up septic tank....

282 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:46:39am

re: #277 rightside

Thomas Dolby?

nope

Science Fiction Double Feature / Rocky Horror

283 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:47:45am

re: #275 storagemanager

It's All About Me

284 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:47:48am
285 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:47:54am

re: #280 3 wood

Good morning TFK. Hope you are doing well.

I'm looking forward to seeing the Democrat convention. The convergence of left wing wackos, MSM shills and outright US haters (but I repeat myself). How do they deal with the Michigan and Florida situation?

This should be fun.

Simple, they ignore their own rules and claim a VRWC..............

286 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:48:21am

AND NOW .. HOW ABOUT A LITTLE QUIZ?

A little history lesson: If you don't know the answer make your best guess. Answer all the questions before looking at the answers. Who said it?

1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

A. Karl Marx
B. Adolph Hitler
C. Joseph Stalin
D. None of the above

2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

A. Lenin
B. Mussolini
C. Idi Amin
D. None of the Above

3) "(We)...can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

A. Nikita Khrushev
B. Jose f Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin
D. None of the above

4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own...in order to create this common ground."

A. Mao Tse Dung
B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong Il
D. None of the above

5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."

A. Karl Marx
B. Lenin
C. Molotov
D. None of the above

6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."

A. Pinochet
B. Milosevic
C. Saddam Hussein
D. None of the above

Answers:

(1) D. None of the above. Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004
(2) D. None of the above. Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007
(3) D. None of the above. Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(4) D. None of the above. Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(5) D. None of the above. Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(6) D. None of the above. Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005


Be afraid. Be very, very afraid!

287 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:48:38am

re: #283 JamesTKirk

love that!

288 3 wood  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:49:05am

re: #278 nonic

Isn't (or wasn't) the idea of the CONVENTION to choose the party's candidate? Isn't that how it used to be done?


It's a freak show, a coronation and a worship service all rolled into one. They want no controversy. Unfortunately for them, that is not possible this year.

289 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:49:44am
Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei said on Thursday that presence of US troops in the Persian Gulf region and Iraq is the root-cause of rampant 'insecurity and instability' in the region.
Addressing thousands of enthusiastic people in the city of Lar in Fars province, the Supreme Leader said the great Iranian people with reliance on Islam have got united and are determined to defend their dignity and identity.

"Islam has brought us freedom, independence, dignity, public welfare and all-out development and this nation is determined to attain its lofty goals," Ayatollah Khamenei said.

Iran has established friendly and brotherly ties with its neighboring Arab states as well as other regional states and this is a source of concern for the US and the Zionist regime, underlined the Supreme Leader.

Ayatollah Khamenei also urged all Muslims to forge unity to thwart plots hatched by the enemies.

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

290 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:50:22am

re: #284 taxfreekiller

Malta,

1565 A.D.

Knights of St. John,
leader Grand Master de la Valette, 70 years old
9000 vs 40,000 Ottoman

4 months later Turks sailed home 25% of them not on board

And only 5% of those not on board were dead, the rest were defectors..... j/k

291 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:52:17am

"You say you want some evolution, well, you know...
We all want to be changed by the world..."
-John Lennon, sort of

292 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:52:37am
Islamic Iran and its great nation are united and are to bring their rough enemies to their knees, said Ayatollah Khamenei.

Existing brotherly ties between Shias and Sunni in Larestan is a good example of unity among Muslims, pointed out the Supreme Leader.

"Unity is the key which thwarts all plots hatched by the global arrogance," Ayatollah Khamenei said.

Since the US has been bugged down in Iraq they try to put the blames on others, pointed out the Supreme Leader

. [Link: www2.irna.com...]

294 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:53:46am

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

Y'know, when Iran can't even spell their own country's name in their domain, do we really need to be worried?

295 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:54:17am
296 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:54:37am

re: #293 BabbaZee

Over $1B from Saudi prince for UK Islamic studies

If only the Muslims were getting the same return on their educational investment as the west now is...

297 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:54:38am
298 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:57:02am

re: #297 JamesTKirk

From upthread: Obama/Ahmadinejad Peace Talks

So the Obamanation has already surrendered the United States to Iran and he hasnt even been elected yet.... Typical Marxist..........

299 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:57:51am
TUCKER CARLSON: It's gonna be such a great election; it has been so far.

JOE SCARBOROUGH: Especially when you have the media loving one candidate as much as they love Barack Obama.

CARLSON: But it's more than love. I mean, it's the kind of love that anybody who's been a 9th-grade boy understands this species of love. Do you know what I mean?

MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Wow.

SCARBOROUGH: No, it's the truth. It's all-consuming.

CARLSON: It's red-in-the-face, I-think-about-you-when-I-go-to-bed, too embarrassed to stand up, it's sealed-with-a-kiss love. I mean, it's real, it's palpable.

SCARBOROUGH: No, it really is.

BRZEZINSKI: Wow! What are you guys talking about?

Oh, I think Mika knows.

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

300 doriangrey  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:57:55am

Well off to work for this poor lizard again....

301 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:58:32am

re: #298 doriangrey

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS (1963)

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

read 'em all and weep for the future

302 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:58:49am

Storm Chaser Arrested in Texas

You will respect my authority!

/ Cartman

303 Widow'smight  Thu, May 8, 2008 5:59:34am

re: #280 3 wood

Just got back, one of the hardest parts of being a father/husband is seeing the violence towards women/children in this country and throughout the world an immediately processing it the way we did. Although the chances are it won't happen to your family, the angst is still there.

The idea that a dad will turn psycho if his family is threatened has protected countless women and children from harm.

On a lighter note, how bout them Phillies, and is there a better player in the Major leagues than one Chase Utley?

304 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:00:18am

re: #294 JamesTKirk

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

Y'know, when Iran can't even spell their own country's name in their domain, do we really need to be worried?

Busted, James T. Kirk. I know who you are.

306 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:02:53am
307 realwest  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:03:07am

Good morning Y'all - from a warmish (62 degrees going up to 76 degrees) but rainy Charlotte!

How is everyone doing this fine morning?

308 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:03:22am

I had a suspicion from your jokes and quick responses, but then what really nailed it was your willingness to post arid, dry little jokes that nobody gets and just be quiet about it.

309 realwest  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:04:10am

YO BABBA!

310 WriterMom  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:04:11am

re: #260 BabbaZee

HA.

Double HA!

311 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:05:20am

It's dead..throw some rocks on it.

312 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:05:22am

GOOD MORNING, LIZARDS! Sunny and chilly here in Michigan today. How's everyone doing?

Went to the John McCain town hall meeting yesterday morning. Sad to say this kids, but even if he gets elected, we're still screwed on the domestic policy front. He's right about the war and not much else.

The evil of three lessers it is!

313 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:05:44am

re: #304 haakondahl

Busted, James T. Kirk. I know who you are.

I doubt it.

314 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:06:11am

Someone has beheaded the infidel thread.

315 realwest  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:06:18am

re: #306 rightside Uh, why should we all hail the Joint Strike Fighter - it isn't as good as the F-22 Raptor?! I mean it IS pretty plane but hail it?! A tad strong, no?!
;')

316 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:06:35am
317 BFSkinner  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:07:15am

Morning all from a cold and gray Chicago.

318 nonic  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:07:35am

Yesterday I watched Destination Tokyo, 1943 propaganda film with Cary Grant. There are places where it seems embarassingly obvious, but mostly, it's really pretty good as action-drama.

I was struck by how some of the things the sub crew were saying about the imperial Japanese (lack of respect for and abuse of their women, training little boys to be killers) would fit perfectly describing today's enemy.

No, we don't say those things today. BUT, Destination Tokyo was made in 1943 AFTER Pearl Harbor and after Doolittle's air raid on Tokyo, which itself was as much propaganda as war.

Other similarities between imperial Japan and islam are the suicide attacks, of course, and official lying about intentions and positions. Highly recommended overall: Tora Tora Tora. Very good action sequences -- just skip the first 90 minutes of puke-worthy "love" story: Pearl Harbor.

319 abolitionist  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:07:45am

re: #314 haakondahl

Someone has beheaded the infidel thread.

?!?
Are not ALL these threads infidel threads?

320 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:07:47am

re: #310 WriterMom

HA.

Double HA!

Quadruple Ha, even.

321 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:08:28am

re: #314 haakondahl

ULULULULULULULULULULULU!
Scientasm!

322 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:08:39am

I have infidel threads in my closet.

323 WriterMom  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:08:48am

TOTALLY HILARIOUS.

New feature on Michelle Malkin: Stuff Muslims Don't Like.
Bwa.
Ha.
Ha.

324 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:08:50am

re: #315 realwest

Everyone knows, that the higher number means it's better!

325 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:09:04am

re: #322 storagemanager

I have infidel threads in my closet.

Infidel threads is what my bomb turban Mohammed t-shirt is made of.

326 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:10:25am

o 60 for 60


o The Balfour Declaration
o Declaring Independence in 1948
o Hanging on in 1948 from attack from 6 enemy armies
o Winning in 1948
o Establishing a democracy
o Making their democracy work despite enormous pressures of war and social differences
o Winning in 1967, maybe the most lopsided victory in military history
o Winning in 1973
o Entebbe
o Crossing the Suez canal turning defeat into victory
o Bombing Osirak in 1982
o Winning a guerrilla war in three years
o Bombing Syria’s al Tibnah reactor in 2007
o Getting hit by 39 SCUDS in 1991 which destroyed the homes of 1100 people but not one life
o Setting the world record of 1080 people on a 747 during the Ethiopian Jewish airlift
o 8 Universities, 26 colleges and 24 religious seminaries almost all built in the last 60 years
o Ingathering the survivors of the holocaust
o Ingathering the Sefardic population
o Hertzl
o Weitzmann
o Ben Gurion
o Golda
o Moshe Dayan
o Begin
o Sharon- warrior, general and Prime Minister
o Mossad creating fear where it is needed most
o Thousands of Scientific and Medical breakthroughs
o Shooting down 82 Syrian Air Force planes without a loss in 1982
o 8 Nobel Prize Laureates
o 71 NASDAQ listed Israeli companies
o Inventing cell phone technology
o Perfecting low casualty urban warfare
o One of three countries in the world with a working ABM system
o Home of the only pilot to ever land a plane with only 1 wing
o Leading innovator of solar energy
o Leading innovator in fresh water technology
o Leading innovator of green house farming
o Finding, capturing, trying and executing Eichmann
o Finding, and executing Imad Mugniyeh
o Keeping Jerusalem open to all faiths
o Keeping said faiths from turning Jerusalem into a madhouse
o Zivka Greengold, who singlehandedly held back an entire Syrian armored division in 1973
o Ilan Ramon space shuttle astronaut and military hero
o Maccabi and Gold Star Beer
o Restoring Hebrew as a modern spoken language
o Gathering in the Soviet Jews
o Making Peace with Egypt and Jordan
o Surviving the Oslo debacle
o Being the only country with an entire areas of study dedicated to its undoing: Post-Zionism, the new New History
o Remembering those who fell to defend Israel in her wars of survival
o Remembering the victims of the Holocaust and staying true to their memory
o Amazing artists, including, my favorite, Yacov Agam
o The only country in the world where almost everyone is an amateur archaeologist
o The Dead Sea Scrolls
o The music of Israel from old Zionist pioneering tunes right to Hatikva and expressions of folk, klezmer, classical, and modern
o Natan Sharansky, refusnik hero, political leadership and democracy advocate, inspires Bush
o Being a daily reminder to the Islamic world of the other road, the one they have not tried yet
o For causing shadows in the brains and hearts of leftists, Nazis and Islamists everywhere
o For being a blessing of hope to the Jewish people every day for 60 years and proving that, no matter what happened before, your future is what you make it
o The 60th I leave to you to find one thing about Israel that makes today special for you

[more to follow!]

327 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:10:35am

re: #325 JamesTKirk

Infidel threads is what my bomb turban Mohammed t-shirt is made of.

You are obviously my long lost sock puppet.

328 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:11:30am

re: #327 haakondahl

You are obviously my long lost sock puppet.

Me? A puppet? There's no man's hand up my butt.

You're confusing me with Sulu.

329 realwest  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:12:29am

re: #324 rightside Ah, ok!*
How are you this fine morning my friend?!

If the Secretary of the Air Force is reading this, y'all really ought to change the Raptor's designation to the F-37 - and keep up with those Euroweenies, but stop at F-85, m'kay?

330 3 wood  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:12:40am

re: #303 Widow'smight

On a lighter note, how bout them Phillies, and is there a better player in the Major leagues than one Chase Utley?

.350 ba, 27rbi, 13 hr, .431 obp (the most imprtant offesive statistic, in my opinion). He will do till another comes along.

I notice Cinicinatti with the great Dusty Baker has dissapeared real fast. I'm waiting for the inevitable blow up with Baker. I guarantee as soon as he takes some real flak in Cinci' he will play the race card.

I remember in Chicago when Baker said he did not like players who walked a lot or got singles a lot (i.e., getting on base a lot) cause then they just clogged up the bases that way....

Really, he said that.

When he took some criticism for the outright stupidity of that remark, he pulled out the race card.

331 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:13:44am

re: #330 3 wood

When he took some criticism for the outright stupidity of that remark, he pulled out the race card.

obviously the inability to understand the nuance of his word is based on base racism by white people.

332 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:14:27am
333 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:14:41am

re: #306 rightside

All hail the JSF!

Looks like a constipated canary.

334 realwest  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:15:08am

re: #326 Ayatollah Ghilmeini Morning to you! Uh, quick question here, who are the other two countries with working ABM systems (well, OK, the US is one, who's the third?)!

335 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:16:06am

Malaysian Blogger Jailed for Sedition After Accusing Government Official of Murder [Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

336 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:16:45am

re: #333 haakondahl

Maybe, but watch out when he shits!

337 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:17:36am

re: #336 rightside

Maybe, but watch out when he shits!

True dat, yo.

338 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:17:42am

Glenn Beck batting around a Video Game Blogger on his show.

339 rightside  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:18:42am

re: #329 realwest

Doing well thanks, drizzling outside, but So Happy It's Thursday!

340 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:18:51am

re: #327 haakondahl

You guys are a lot alike LOL

341 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:19:01am

re: #328 JamesTKirk

Me? A puppet? There's no man's hand up my butt.

You're confusing me with Sulu.

Leave him alone. He got a girl's name--it's not his fault if he eats burritos slowly.

342 realwest  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:19:30am

re: #330 3 wood Hey there, good morning to you! Dusty Baker has the baseball brains of a small rock; his regular non-baseball brain is about the size of a somewhat larger rock.
Maybe he ought to talk to Joe Torre about all them singles and clogging up the basepaths that the Yankess did in 1998!
How are you this fine morning?

343 3 wood  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:20:18am

re: #331 LanceKates

obviously the inability to understand the nuance of his word is based on base racism by white people.


Of course.

Then he started bringing his little son into the post game news conferences and sitting the young man on his lap like a shield from the press.

What a jerk.

344 ethanxxx  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:21:00am

David Horowitz, once again, gives us valuable ammunition for the debate on the topic, The Democratic Party is a National Disgrace.

345 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:21:10am

Good Thursday morning all.

346 Widow'smight  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:21:40am

re: #330 3 wood

You don't need to run fast when the guy hits a home run.

Charlie Manuel is finally figuring out this managing thing. The first couple of years, he refused to use his backup catcher to Pinch Hit. Chris Coste has hit over .300 the last three years, and is being used this year in that role. He also has the double switch down much better. The Phillies have a very good bench, but their starting pitching?

347 3 wood  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:22:08am

re: #342 realwest

How are you this fine morning?

I'm just fine. I'll send you an email shortly with an update on some things.

How are you and your Mom doing?

348 storagemanager  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:22:24am

You have all my links..I am out...take care.

349 BulgarWheat  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:22:51am

re: #348 storagemanager

we want more and we want it now!

I ME MINER

350 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:22:51am

re: #344 ethanxxx

David Horowitz, once again, gives us valuable ammunition for the debate on the topic, The Democratic Party is a National Disgrace.

This guy is on par with Hitchens as far as former Trotskyite (or whatever, don't correct me, I don't care) credentials. I really appreciate his writing. Does he speak well also?

351 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:22:59am

re: #340 BabbaZee

You guys are a lot alike LOL

We're nothing alike! I'm black on the right side of my face, and he's black on the left side of his face!

353 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:24:11am

Feh. Everyone knows that the last, best hope for peace is Babylon 5.

354 BulgarWheat  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:24:20am

re: #352 WriterMom

When Keith starts making statements like that, I get pretty dog-gone nervous.

355 littleO  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:24:25am

re: #249 haakondahl



Yes sir, you've got that right. But, in likeness, Bill may be old and declining from power; Barack is rising in power. Both demagogues.
The young, articulate, calm, charismatic, persuasive Senator from Illinois can sway political policy unwisely.
Our legislatures' and some Presidents (since LBJ ) have lead us by fits and starts down a road, they believed, lead to grandeur. What they have, unashamedly and unapologetically, created is a broken systems of governance, education,currency management and health care.
What this throughly charming gentleman from the great state of Illinois can add to that, I dread we will find out.
Will a 72 yr. old war horse with a begrudging base loyalty be able the withstand, and overcome the political firestorm which is coming in the fall? I'll do my little part although the party is old and tired and has no fight. They would be well served to sincerely listen to the Newt Gingrich's of the world.
Will they.

356 realwest  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:24:50am

re: #347 3 wood We be doing just fine, thank you - course we gotta run some errands and do some more chores today and in a fairly short while before the T-Storms start up (Mom still believes the Weather Forecasters - it's really touching to see such strong beliefs, against all evidence to the contrary!).

357 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:24:54am

re: #351 JamesTKirk

We're nothing alike! I'm black on the right side of my face, and he's black on the left side of his face!

And he uses his left hand for sock puppetry, and I use my right. It's a figure eight.

358 WriterMom  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:25:16am

re: #354 BulgarWheat

He also mentions the influential Jooooish community in America-but his comments are fairly innocuous.

359 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:26:15am

re: #351 JamesTKirk

ahahahahaaaa

Like Obama!

360 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:26:20am

re: #354 BulgarWheat

When Keith starts making statements like that, I get pretty dog-gone nervous.

361 3 wood  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:26:43am

re: #346 Widow'smight

The Phillies have a very good bench, but their starting pitching?

That reminds me. Thanks for John Danks. He's working out quite nicely on the South side.

362 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:26:47am

re: #334 realwest

Russia sort of

363 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:27:02am

re: #349 BulgarWheat

{Bulgarity~}

Hail from the Most Big Ot to you!

364 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:27:06am

re: #343 3 wood

Heh. There is a lady down here who has one of those "We buy ugly houses" type companies.

She has alot of commercials and they are ALL horrible. She doesn't do TV well. So, in her last half dozen commercials or so, she has a little dog with her (she is big on the 'get your pet fixed' thing) or has a little kid with her to give out the company's tagline.

child prostitution without the sex.

365 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:27:07am

re: #352 WriterMom

Live From Dubai!

Congressman Keith Ellison Calls for Stronger Palestinian-American Lobby, Says Obama is the Best Chance for Peace.

The problem is, the only way that the Palis know how to "lobby" is by blowing people and things up.

366 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:27:33am

re: #357 haakondahl

And he uses his left hand for sock puppetry, and I use my right. It's a figure eight.

In all honesty, I've never had (nor been) a sock puppet on LGF; so if that's what you think, you're wrong.

367 BulgarWheat  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:28:05am

re: #363 BabbaZee

Yo yo yo, Big OT Sistah!

I pinged you earlier, about the time you lost your connection.

Heh!

368 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:28:08am

re: #366 JamesTKirk

You HAVE, however, slept with green women.

369 realwest  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:28:28am

re: #348 storagemanager WAIT A MINUTE! We don't want you just for your links! Whaddya think, you can just dump a load and leave, er, drop a load of links and leave? Betcha you're going to MM's site ain't ya?
And here's a story I bet you haven't seen a ink to:

Safety in numbers for speeding drivers

BEIJING (Reuters) - Speeding drivers in south China are getting clear away thanks to machines which switch the numbers on their licence plates in seconds, state media said on Tuesday.

"More than 50 percent of cars caught on camera for speeding and other offences either cover up their plates or use a fake licence plate," a traffic policeman in the Guangdong city of Yangjiang was quoted by the Beijing Youth Daily as saying.

"Our chances of capturing them is next to nil."

The price of the remote-control device starts at around 800 yuan ($115), while a more advanced apparatus with the ability to flip over the numbers in less than three seconds costs more than double.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

370 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:28:30am

re: #368 LanceKates

You HAVE, however, slept with green women.

And darned proud of it!

371 WriterMom  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:29:06am

re: #365 Ward Cleaver

Ward-you're way off.

They also seethe and threaten.

:)

372 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:29:10am

re: #355 littleO

Will a 72 yr. old war horse with a begrudging base loyalty be able the withstand, and overcome the political firestorm which is coming in the fall?

Oh Hell Yes. littleO, we are going to be just fine.


Michelle Obama: "Barack Obama has worked in some of the toughest neighborhoods in Chicago. He has seen it all!"

Sorry, little lady. John McCain has worked in the toughest neighborhoods in FUCKING SAIGON. Step off.

373 BulgarWheat  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:29:34am

Howdy real! Guess I don't need to water the plants this morning. God's going to do that for me.

374 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:29:48am

re: #370 JamesTKirk

And darned proud of it!

And with all those women from alien cultures, you never once caught a disease that made 'it' fall off?

375 WriterMom  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:30:12am

re: #372 haakondahl

Hitch has a column today in the National Post (it may also be on Slate) about Michelle Obama. It's a good one.

376 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:30:16am

Banging green women is next to necromancy.

STONE THE GIRDLE CLAD HAM!

377 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:30:32am

re: #374 LanceKates

And with all those women from alien cultures, you never once caught a disease that made 'it' fall off?

Thank God for Doctor McCoy is all I'm saying.

378 realwest  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:30:43am

re: #362 Ayatollah Ghilmeini Really?! I didn't think they had anything resembling a working ABM system.
As for me, the 60th good thing would be that Israel is allied with the US (I'm neither Israeli or Jew, so I could understand how some Israeli's or Jews could disagree with that, but speaking for myself, I've never regretted for one second that Isreal is our ally.

379 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:30:44am

re: #369 realwest

WAIT A MINUTE! We don't want you just for your links! Whaddya think, you can just dump a load and leave, er, drop a load of links and leave? Betcha you're going to MM's site ain't ya?
And here's a story I bet you haven't seen a ink to:

Safety in numbers for speeding drivers

BEIJING (Reuters) - Speeding drivers in south China are getting clear away thanks to machines which switch the numbers on their licence plates in seconds, state media said on Tuesday.

"More than 50 percent of cars caught on camera for speeding and other offences either cover up their plates or use a fake licence plate," a traffic policeman in the Guangdong city of Yangjiang was quoted by the Beijing Youth Daily as saying.

"Our chances of capturing them is next to nil."

The price of the remote-control device starts at around 800 yuan ($115), while a more advanced apparatus with the ability to flip over the numbers in less than three seconds costs more than double.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Well, there's one Chinese import that I see as being useful.

380 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:30:54am

re: #377 JamesTKirk

He was able to reattach it?

kind of like a tire.... or broken muffler...

381 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:31:04am

re: #366 JamesTKirk

In all honesty, I've never had (nor been) a sock puppet on LGF; so if that's what you think, you're wrong.

Well, a joke that needs explaining needs burning. You seem to beat to the same joke pretty often. BabbaZee sees it, she says, and that's all I was saying. Not casting any actual aspersions.

[thud!] "What was that?"

382 3 wood  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:31:05am

re: #346 Widow'smight

The Phillies have a very good bench, but their starting pitching?


Hey, Jamie Moyer is only about 86.

Which reminds me, thanks for sending Gavin Floyd to the White Sox for Freddy Garcia. He is working out very nicely here (3 - 1 2.50 era).

How's Garcia working out for you there?

383 hayseed  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:31:37am

Good Morning All.....from the BBC Muslim board

The actual process is quite hard.It cannot be performed by the week hearted.Many of the Jinns after the exorcism also turn Muslim and become good.
A Jinn never gets into a person.It only influences you.I used to always think it goes inside of you when I was younger but it only influences you. Also the Jinns do live in the trees.If a person was to urinate on a tree then as that person has urinated on the Jinns home then they usually get you.Even when you just talk about Jinns then they start to surround you.Just like when you do Zikr of Allah then angels surround you.
The process itself is not something to explain but it can be found on many Islamic websites.It is mainly to do with Quranic ayats and Ayatal Kursi and other things.It is also good for the person performing the exorcism to speak Arabic as most of the Jinn will also speak in Arabic.

384 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:31:43am

re: #380 LanceKates

He was able to reattach it?

kind of like a tire.... or broken muffler...

Use muffler tape.

385 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:31:48am

re: #381 haakondahl

Well, a joke that needs explaining needs burning. You seem to beat to the same joke pretty often. BabbaZee sees it, she says, and that's all I was saying. Not casting any actual aspersions.

[thud!] "What was that?"

James T we know you are true LOL

386 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:32:04am

re: #375 WriterMom

Hitch has a column today in the National Post (it may also be on Slate) about Michelle Obama. It's a good one.

I heard about it on Hewitt--is this the one where he also has the patented haakondahl(tm) insight that Michelle Obama is Barack's Wright connection?

387 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:32:38am

re: #384 Ward Cleaver

Use muffler tape.

With some JB Weld and hangers for good form.

JB Weld is a great thing.

388 Irish Rose  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:32:51am

My client cancelled this morning, so I have some reprieve... think I'll make up a nice batch of scrambled eggs with cheese.

389 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:32:55am
390 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:33:09am

re: #375 WriterMom

Hitch has a column today in the National Post (it may also be on Slate) about Michelle Obama. It's a good one.

Ooooh, linky please!

(and spinoff link)

That might be thread-worthy.

391 realwest  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:33:30am

re: #372 haakondahl
Good morning Hawk! Uh, "John McCain has worked in the toughest neighborhoods in FUCKING SAIGON HANOI. Step off."
Just thought I'd change that one for ya!

392 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:33:37am

Does everyone here think that the Dummycrats know they are about to pick as candidate for POTUS someone who is unelectable? Hillary stands a better chance, but I believe her to be unelectable as well. McCain wins in a landslide by default. I wonder if there is anyone in the Dummycratic party that can save it from itself.

393 3 wood  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:33:58am

Got to go to a meeting.

Later.

394 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:34:39am

re: #391 realwest

Good morning Hawk! Uh, "John McCain has worked in the toughest neighborhoods in FUCKING SAIGON HANOI. Step off."
Just thought I'd change that one for ya!

Thank you, Sir.

[smites own forehead--WHACK!]

395 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:34:56am

re: #387 LanceKates

With some JB Weld and hangers for good form.

JB Weld is a great thing.

JB Weld is excellent stuff. I haven't had much luck with the JB Kwik Weld, though. I've seen cracked exhaust manifolds fixed with JB Weld.

/don't scrap it - jb weld it!

396 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:35:29am

re: #391 realwest

Good morning Hawk! Uh, "John McCain has worked in the toughest neighborhoods in FUCKING SAIGON HANOI. Step off."
Just thought I'd change that one for ya!

In fact--gonna drop and give twunny.

397 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:35:57am

re: #392 Truck Monkey

I've a little hint in the back of my mind that as long as they have the congress, they don't mind not having the Presidency.

Especially if it not only means that they get to blame the war on Republicans (which they know is necessary, but don't want to be associated with), but ALSO get to rant about how white people are too racist to vote for a black man. And the Republican they get is pretty liberal.

Win-Win-Win for them.

398 WriterMom  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:35:58am

re: #386 haakondahl

Yep. Lemme grab it. It also has some juicy nuggets about Farakahn.

399 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:36:53am

re: #388 Irish Rose

My client cancelled this morning, so I have some reprieve... think I'll make up a nice batch of scrambled eggs with cheese.

I'd add to that diced jalapenos.

400 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:37:33am

re: #395 Ward Cleaver

JB Weld is excellent stuff. I haven't had much luck with the JB Kwik Weld, though. I've seen cracked exhaust manifolds fixed with JB Weld.

/don't scrap it - jb weld it!

I've used it to reattached mufflers mostly. It is great stuff.

In the world of metal, it can hold clouds together.

401 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:38:01am

re: #392 Truck Monkey

Does everyone here think that the Dummycrats know they are about to pick as candidate for POTUS someone who is unelectable?

When has that ever stopped them?

Hillary stands a better chance, but I believe her to be unelectable as well. McCain wins in a landslide by default.

I think that's overly optimistic. McCain also has a number of very large negatives, and the MSM/Dems have barely opened fire on him so far.

402 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:38:43am

re: #400 LanceKates

I've used it to reattached mufflers mostly. It is great stuff.

In the world of metal, it can hold clouds together.

Yep, and it's made in Sulphur Springs (TX). A friend of our is related to the founders.

403 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:38:51am

re: #401 JamesTKirk

When the MSM is involved, doesn't even matter if it is true.

CBS's Memogate comes to mind.

404 BFSkinner  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:39:00am

re: #392 Truck Monkey

Does everyone here think that the Dummycrats know they are about to pick as candidate for POTUS someone who is unelectable? Hillary stands a better chance, but I believe her to be unelectable as well. McCain wins in a landslide by default. I wonder if there is anyone in the Dummycratic party that can save it from itself.

I honestly do not think they realize that he is unelectable. They see "huge numbers" of new voters and think "Wow, no way we can loose" but fail to realize that they are in the states the Democrats would already carry and secondly most of Obama's support is on the backs of college kids, and we know how reliable a block of voters they are. Once Obama goes from Democratic voters to "real" voters, who sense how liberal he is, and anti-Israel/pro-terrorist he is, I see an 84 election all over again.

405 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:39:23am

re: #402 Ward Cleaver

now that I didn't know, but I am not suprised.

It works too well to have been made by hippies, so it makes sense.

406 realwest  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:39:25am

re: #379 Ward Cleaver Yep, me too! I also like the dude who had some kinda spray "stealth" type paint that you could use to cover your license plate - clear to the naked eye, but unreadable by radar. Or something like that!
Hey, how are you and how are things in the Cleaver household today?

407 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:39:46am

re: #403 LanceKates

When the MSM is involved, doesn't even matter if it is true.

CBS's Memogate comes to mind.

Ah, but there's plenty of good people like Charles to fact-check their asses.

408 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:40:10am

re: #397 LanceKates

I've a little hint in the back of my mind that as long as they have the congress, they don't mind not having the Presidency.

Especially if it not only means that they get to blame the war on Republicans (which they know is necessary, but don't want to be associated with), but ALSO get to rant about how white people are too racist to vote for a black man. And the Republican they get is pretty liberal.

Win-Win-Win for them.

True. I believe that The D's are going to pick up seats in both houses this fall, and McCain is D light. The R's are in no better shape in my opinion but they are the only sane choice. No one with the Obamessiahs associations and inexperience should get anywhere near the Oval Office.

409 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:40:30am

re: #406 realwest

Yep, me too! I also like the dude who had some kinda spray "stealth" type paint that you could use to cover your license plate - clear to the naked eye, but unreadable by radar. Or something like that!
Hey, how are you and how are things in the Cleaver household today?

Everything's good at our house, just fighting colds and allergies.

410 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:40:56am

re: #407 Ward Cleaver

True enough.

411 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:41:34am

re: #408 Truck Monkey

True. I believe that The D's are going to pick up seats in both houses this fall, and McCain is D light. The R's are in no better shape in my opinion but they are the only sane choice. No one with the Obamessiahs associations and inexperience should get anywhere near the Oval Office.

Nah, Obama can be near the Oval Office.... isn't it part of the standard White House tour?

*evil grin*

412 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:41:40am

re: #405 LanceKates

now that I didn't know, but I am not suprised.

It works too well to have been made by hippies, so it makes sense.

The only thing that hippies make is trouble.

413 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:41:55am

re: #404 BFSkinner

Once Obama goes from Democratic voters to "real" voters, who sense how liberal he is, and anti-Israel/pro-terrorist he is, I see an 84 election all over again.

I don't think people can "sense" that without being educated. The Wright controversy was one education, but it will take more... And the MSM will be fighting to silence that education as much as possible.

And McCain will be no help at all.

414 galloping granny  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:42:02am

Overheard in my little Vermont town's only supermarket: Obama, we can't vote for him. He is a Marxist!

/Hope!

415 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:42:20am

re: #412 Ward Cleaver

The only thing that hippies make is trouble.

And odor.

416 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:42:30am

re: #412 Ward Cleaver

The only thing that hippies make is trouble.

and stink

Boy, they corner the market on stink.

At least the French use perfume.

417 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:42:53am

re: #413 JamesTKirk

I don't think people can "sense" that without being educated. The Wright controversy was one education, but it will take more... And the MSM will be fighting to silence that education as much as possible.

And McCain will be no help at all.

The blogosphere and talk radio will have to bail his ass out.

418 Widow'smight  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:43:15am

re: #361 3 wood

The other young pitcher the Phils had is doing well for the Chi-sox, his name eludes me right now.

419 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:43:18am

re: #413 JamesTKirk

If you're willing to discuss why Obama is bad, you're just "Out of Touch with Reality"

/ McCain on NC GOP

420 JamesTKirk  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:43:42am

re: #417 Ward Cleaver

The blogosphere and talk radio will have to bail his ass out.

With him kicking and screaming against them every step of the way. And even if he does win, it's no victory for us. Merely a lesser defeat.

421 realwest  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:44:14am

re: #392 Truck Monkey
I sure hope not. And y'all ought not to be so optimistic about the Repub's chances in November - Someone out here the other day linked to a Newt Gingrich column where he says he thinks the Republicans are gonna get their clocks cleaned this November and into the foreseable future (only partly cause the Dems have registered something like three times as many new voters as have the Republicans).

BTW - a friend from LGF sent me a hilarious video that isn't from the internet and I'm wondering if any of y'all know how I could post it out here?! And no, I don't have the original source material either!

422 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:44:36am

re: #420 JamesTKirk

With him kicking and screaming against them every step of the way. And even if he does win, it's no victory for us. Merely a lesser defeat.

I can see some Dems voting for McCain. I mean, he's pro-amnesty.

423 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:44:55am

re: #417 Ward Cleaver

The blogosphere and talk radio will have to bail his ass out.

Yup, only to have the GOP write us off in the beginning, degrade us in the MSM and then after Talk Radio and the Blogs save their butt, we'll just be ignored until the next election.

424 WriterMom  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:45:04am
425 BabbaZee  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:45:27am
426 BFSkinner  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:45:28am

re: #413 JamesTKirk

I don't think people can "sense" that without being educated. The Wright controversy was one education, but it will take more... And the MSM will be fighting to silence that education as much as possible.

And McCain will be no help at all.

Perhaps. But thankfuly the whole election system has changed as technology has advanced. We no longer have to count on the big-three broadcasting giants to report what they think is news and what they want people to hear.

People need to do whatever they can to get word out, to touch as many people, to educate.

427 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:45:38am

re: #422 Ward Cleaver

I've a friend in IL who was a big Obama fan who is planning on voting for McCain.

428 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:45:45am

re: #423 LanceKates

Yup, only to have the GOP write us off in the beginning, degrade us in the MSM and then after Talk Radio and the Blogs save their butt, we'll just be ignored until the next election.

Sadly, you are correct.

429 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:45:49am

re: #411 LanceKates

Nah, Obama can be near the Oval Office.... isn't it part of the standard White House tour?

*evil grin*

Actually no. I've been on a White House tour and you cannot get close..... and that was in 1976. I can only imagine what they don't let you see or get near now. In fact, back in '76 we could wander around the Capital Building and the Dirkson Building and not be bothered at all. Wesaw some pretty cool things in the Capital basement and a pretty weathered looking Joan Kennedy in one of the tunnels below the senate office bldg.

430 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:46:09am

re: #427 LanceKates

I've a friend in IL who was a big Obama fan who is planning on voting for McCain.

Wow, what changed their mind?

431 realwest  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:46:24am

re: #399 Ward Cleaver

I'd add to that diced jalapenos.

And Bacon - don't forget the extra crispy bacon!

432 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:46:31am

re: #428 Ward Cleaver

Yeah. It is a pain in the butt when my pessimistic thoughts are accurate.

433 LanceKates  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:47:47am

re: #429 Truck Monkey

I never got to go on the tour. When I was in DC, the day we were going to the white house for the tour, we ended up getting lost in a 'poorer area' of DC where we saw no people, but lots of boarded and barred windows and bullet holes.

434 haakondahl  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:47:53am

re: #423 LanceKates

Yup, only to have the GOP write us off in the beginning, degrade us in the MSM and then after Talk Radio and the Blogs save their butt, we'll just be ignored until the next election.

Life in the Big Tent party. Oh, well. I didn't get my Giuliana, then I didn't get my Romney. I railed against it, but now I'm a committed McCain man. Took me a while, but--bygones.

435 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 8, 2008 6:48:03am

re: #429 Truck Monkey

Actually no. I've been on a White House tour and you cannot get close..... and that was in 1976. I can only imagine what they don't let you see or get near now. In fact, back in '76 we could wander around the Capital Building and the Dirkson Building and not be bothered at all. Wesaw some pretty cool things in the Capital basement and a pretty weathered looking Joan Kennedy in one of the tunnels below the senate office bldg.

I toured the WH in '77, and I don't remember going anywhere near the oval office. One thing I remember is it seemed like the window frames had a zillion coats of paint on them.

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