I guess they believe the pamphlet is mightier than the car bomb.

Pamphlets = terrorism? O-kay.

Irony meter pegged!

I guess someone could be terrorized by a nasty paper cut.

Vietnam and Cuba are the twin disgraces of my generation.
To think of what could have been.

East is East
And West is West
And never the twain shall meet

Rudyard Kippling

Well, the UN does think countries would be afraid of their "strongly worded letters".
Come to think of it, that is more frightening than the UN "peacekeepers", unless you're the ones the UN is supposed to protect. Then, the "peacekeepers" can be pretty frightening.

Commies have always been more worried about ideas getting out too the masses than the actual lives of the masses.

Makes sense.... Maybe they'll line up on Barack's side if he is elected...

They may take our pamphlets, but they will never take our freedom!

Communism
Terrorizing people daily.

well if you thik of it a strongly worded letter is just one piece of paper. Pamphlets are like a whole stack of strongly worded letters and you give them to EVERYBODY. Personally I am shaking in my cowboy boots at the very thought of it.

Pot, meet kettle.

Wait a few minutes and the UN will declare offensive cartoons to be terrorism.

re: #5 rawmuse

Vietnam and Cuba are the twin disgraces of my generation.
To think of what could have been.

And let's hope that Iraq doesn't become a more recent disgrace.
Vote for McCain. Hold your nose if you have to, but vote for him instead of the surrender party's candidate.

Actually, when I was a missionary, I learned how afraid people can be of pamphlets. :)

MEXICO CITY — An official says the acting chief of Mexico's federal police has been shot dead.

The Public Safety Department says Edgar Millan Gomez was shot 10 times and died hours later in a Mexico City hospital. Two of his bodyguards were wounded.

A police official who is not authorized to give his name says Millan Gomez had been temporarily heading the federal police for a month.

Police have arrested a suspect but have not determined a motive for the pre-dawn attack Thursday. The official said police were investigating possible drug links.

I am thinking MS-13 [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Is this a joke?

They must have taken their definition of Terrorist from the MSM, you know, one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. His pamphlets terrorized the Commies in the Vietnamese Government.

HANOI, Vietnam - A Vietnamese-American and two Vietnamese nationals will be put on trial on charges of terrorism for allegedly planning to distribute anti-government pamphlets in Vietnam, an official said Thursday.

Wonder what they'll think of President McCain, who distributed anti-government Bomblets in Hanoi?

Terrorism is become another meaningless term like "Hate Speach" and "Human Rights" due to us allowing thugs and dictators to set its definition.

Apparently it depends on your perspective...

Chau Pew Dung says Communism = Bullshit.

re: #12 Karagush

well if you thik of it a strongly worded letter is just one piece of paper. Pamphlets are like a whole stack of strongly worded letters and you give them to EVERYBODY. Personally I am shaking in my cowboy boots at the very thought of it.

Looked at your avatar, those aren't traditional cowboy boots....

/ Just sayin'

re: #16 bosforus

Actually, when I was a missionary, I learned how afraid people can be of pamphlets. :)

My family was missionaries in Iran. The Shah had a law against pamphleteering. He fear was communist material. However once we struck up a conversation we could give our new friend anything. Once the Iranians knew we spoke Persian we had lots of friends.

re: #18 MandyManners

Not for the poor arrestee...

I love it!

"see that man with the pamphlets?! Grab him! No! No! Not the ones in masks with the Aks and the c-5, the American, stupid!"..

/amazing

Correction: "...allegedly planning to distribute anti-government pamphlets..."

self deleted

I guess they could sorta be terrorist pamphlets if the were saying to use force to overthrow the government or something, maybe bombing government buildings or some such, but I doubt it.

Wish we could see one of the pamphlets.

Fascinating and very lengthy special edition of The Economist devoted to Vietnam a week ago. They are really trying over there. A way to go, but they are trying to become a respected member of nthe world community.

re: #17 storagemanager

I am thinking MS-13 [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Hell, it could have been his own guys. There was a news story in San Diego in the last week about how a police safe house in TJ was assaulted by dozens of men and the police chief ordered units NOT to respond to the distress calls.

So, the modern Left (a.k.a. Marxists/Communists in waiting), love the Vietnamese government so much that, throughout the second-half of the 60s and up through today, they publically defend them in our own city streets by ... passing out anti-American government pamphlets.

I would assume the cognitive dissonance would give them all migraines, but that would require me to reject all evidence pointing to their patented lack of anything approaching rational analysis on the issues.

Reminds me of that old joke: An American and a Soviet are talking about freedoms in their respective countries. The American says "I can stand in the middle of my nation's capitol and criticize the US President all I want, and nothing will happen to me." To which the Soviet replies, "So can I."

Oh, and LOL at Bosforus!

re: #20 haakondahl

Wonder what they'll think of President McCain, who distributed anti-government Bomblets in Hanoi?

HA!

re: #31 pat

Fascinating and very lengthy special edition of The Economist devoted to Vietnam a week ago. They are really trying over there. A way to go, but they are trying to become a respected member of nthe world community.

respected by whom? Other Commies? gimmee a break....

re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hell, it could have been his own guys. There was a news story in San Diego in the last week about how a police safe house in TJ was assaulted by dozens of men and the police chief ordered units NOT to respond to the distress calls.

wow

So that is why they joined anti terrorism now! They were terrorized by Democracy!

And the moonbats here in America claim that they are oppressed and living in a fascist state, while marching freely in the streets waving communist banners.

It's beyond ironic, it's lunacy.

This is the outcome of a deliberate effort by repressive regimes to redefine the concept of "terrorism" to include any activity the regimes don't like. And it's being enabled by the corrupt UN, of course.

So? That's just like the police state that Bush has established in his fight against "terrorism." I mean, look how many people have been censored by him - George Clooney, The Dixie Chicks - they never shut up about how they're always being censored!
/

re: #25 jcm

Were you in Iran as well? Did your family ever feel in danger? Sounds like a pretty fascinating experience.

Okay...

Well, Ummm, sure...

re: #20 haakondahl

Wonder what they'll think of President McCain, who distributed anti-government Bomblets in Hanoi?

You mean back during the American Governments genocide against the yellow man? McCain = Mchitler (assuming he wins).

/moonbat mantra preview.

The three were arrested last November at a house in Ho Chi Minh City along with Truong Van Ba, an American, and Nguyen Thi Thanh Van, a French national. Authorities allegedly found them preparing to circulate anti-government pamphlets on behalf of Viet Tan, a California-based pro-democracy group that Vietnam considers a terrorist organization.

They were going to terrorize those commies with democracy.
The horror!

re: #40 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So? That's just like the police state that Bush has established in his fight against "terrorism." I mean, look how many people have been censored by him - George Clooney, The Dixie Chicks - they never shut up about how they're always being censored!
/

Lefty dictionary...
Criticism is censorship.
Disagreement is hate speech.

re: #30 JohnnyReb

Viet Tan, a California-based pro-democracy group that Vietnam considers a terrorist organization...says it promotes nonviolent political change in Vietnam, and U.S. Ambassador Michael Michalak has said he has seen no evidence the group is engaged in terrorism.

re: #33 Seraphym

I used to live in the OC, home to the largest concentration of Vietnamese refugees in the US (at .least, when I last checked the stats), and I can tell you these refugees do NOT love communism, or the Communists.

It's funny, in a black sort've way, to read left-wing local free papers, such as the OC Weekly, and watch all the hip young editors get their collective panties in a bunch about stories where the citizens of Little Saigon protest against Chairman Mao flags displayed in their town, or Communist newspapers. Why, what's with these people? Don't they know they're supposed to be RESPECTFUL of the glorious peoples' gummint? Hey, they're oppressing freedom of speech, that's what they're doing! (It's hilarious to watch over-the-hill hippies suddenly get all law 'n order, call-the-cops, when the group protesting is one they disagree with.)

By the way, don't have the details in front of me, but another problem Little Saigon may be facing is the fact that Vietnam might demand that some of them be "repatriated", and, since some of them might not be here 100% legally, the American government might go along with this. (California won't, however, go after the Mexican gangs here.)

As I said, I'm unsure of the details; I'll try and look it up later.

Based on what I see in the MSM, we (the USA) are the only terrorists out there.

A twisted sick part of me (we all have them) really wishes we could treat these people (protesters, Hollywood, etc.) the way they say we do. After everything they have said and done, it would do my America loving heart good to see Sean Penn and his buddies tossed in prison for sedition. To see code pink arrested for blatant falsehoods and slander. I could go on and on.

I do need to get a grip though. Apparently Iron Man isn't anti-American? I just assume anything they produce as the ultimate goal of subverting the USA.

Work calls. Everyone have a terrific day.

BBL

Susan

re: #39 Charles

This is the outcome of a deliberate effort by repressive regimes to redefine the concept of "terrorism" to include any activity the regimes don't like. And it's being enabled by the corrupt UN, of course.

Exactly. By giving these regimes a "legitimate" venue, they are masking horrific acts and policies as part of their culture to be embraced.

The time of the UN is over. It has become the greatest enabler of pain and suffering in the history of the world.

Speaking of McCain/Vietnam, O'Reilly talked about that Kos and Huffington Post commentary that said McCain was never tortured and was a collaborator. It occurred to me that is an odd observation. I thought all the lefties wished to collaborate with the Cong, and frolic about the AA guns.

Communist governments are terrorist by definition.

re: #50 pat

They did, but they really, really wish the rest of us would just forget about that now.

(They also wish all those (*(&&^^%%& counter-revolutionaries in Little Saigon would just shut up already!)

re: #49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The time of the UN is over. It has become the greatest enabler of pain and suffering in the history of the world.

NO Kragar! Is ya ignant? Everbody knows that's Gitmo! Aljezzera said so...

//////////////////////////////////////// /////////

re: #50 pat

Speaking of McCain/Vietnam, O'Reilly talked about that Kos and Huffington Post commentary that said McCain was never tortured and was a collaborator. It occurred to me that is an odd observation. I thought all the lefties wished to collaborate with the Cong, and frolic about the AA guns.

Well, you see, McCain's captors never forced panties on his head, or pointed and laughed at a naked pyramid he was in. So he was never actually tortured.

/MOONBAT OFF

re: #47 TalkinKamel

Vietnam might demand that some of them be "repatriated", and, since some of them might not be here 100% legally, the American government might go along with this

WTF? If McCain wins, I don't see this happening at all.

This is the outcome of a deliberate, sustained effort by repressive regimes to redefine the concept of “terrorism,” so that it includes any activity the regimes don’t like. And it’s being enabled by the corrupt UN, of course.

Following Bunta's lead.

Also similar to how any dissent in Paliland is "collaboration."

Well now that they have caught THE(both of them) terrorists the whole world can breath easy now.Thank God.

.Fascinating and very lengthy special edition of The Economist devoted to Vietnam a week ago. They are really trying over there. A way to go, but they are trying to become a respected member of nthe world community.

Devoted appears to be the right word.

re: #55 MandyManners

WTF? If McCain wins, I don't see this happening at all.

don't get me started....

Information in the hands of slaves is dangerous to the masters.

/how many troofers lurking think this is about McBushHitlerburton?

Bunta = Bush Junta

re: #56 Ben Hur

Following Bunta's lead.

Also similar to how any dissent in Paliland is "collaboration."

Why repressive regimes suck.

re: #18 MandyManners

Not intentionally.

The UN sides with whoever pays the highest bribes

except for Israel and the USA. They still take their money but give them nothing for it

re: #47 TalkinKamel

You live in OC?...Next weekend there is going to be an anti-Israel demonstration in Anaheim. I wanted to go and take some pictures- it should be ugly - but I have another commitment.

Would you consider going?...I'll post the pictures at my site.

Here's the info:

May 18: Mass Protest for Palestine in Orange County
Mark 60th Year of Al-Nakba
End the Occupation! Support the Right of Return!
60 Years of Forced Exile - Time for Return!

Sunday, May 18, 2pm
512 S. Brookhurst St., Anaheim 92804
(Brookhurst & Orange)

The demonstration is actually going to be on the third day of a three day Pro-Palistinian "convention" at the Embassy Suites hotel...
6th Al-Awda Int'l Convention to Mark 60 Years of Palestinian Nakba
May 16-18, 2008, Anaheim, California

Friday-Sunday, May 16-18
Embassy Suites Hotel Anaheim South
11767 Harbor Blvd., Garden Grove, CA 92840

No Vietnamese ever called me "Infidel."

A Servant When He Reigneth
--Rudyard Kipling

"For three things the earth is disquieted, and for four which it cannot bear. For a servant when he reigneth, and a fool when he is filled with meat; for an odious woman when she is married, and an handmaid that is heir to her mistress." -- Prov. XXX, 21-22-23.

Three things make earth unquiet
And four she cannot brook
The godly Agur counted them
And put them in a book --
Those Four Tremendous Curses
With which mankind is cursed;
But a Servant when He Reigneth
Old Agur entered first.

An Handmaid that is Mistress
We need not call upon.
A Fool when he is full of Meat
Will fall asleep anon.
An Odious Woman Married
May bear a babe and mend;
But a Servant when He Reigneth
Is Confusion to the end.

His feet are swift to tumult,
His hands are slow to toil,
His ears are deaf to reason,
His lips are loud in broil.
He knows no use for power
Except to show his might.
He gives no heed to judgment
Unless it prove him right.

Because he served a master
Before his Kingship came,
And hid in all disaster
Behind his master's name,
So, when his Folly opens
The unnecessary hells,
A Servant when He Reigneth
Throws the blame on some one else.

His vows are lightly spoken,
His faith is hard to bind,
His trust is easy boken,
He fears his fellow-kind.
The nearest mob will move him
To break the pledge he gave --
Oh, a Servant when he Reigneth
Is more than ever slave!

re: #66 Ben Hur

Cause you too pretty

You guys, including zombie, have such strong stomachs to attend those types of rallies. I could never do it!

re: #65 Ringo the Gringo

A Vietnamese-American and two Vietnamese nationals will be put on trial on charges of terrorism for allegedly planning to distribute anti-government pamphlets in Vietnam, an official said Thursday.

But to the warped mind of the American left- this doesn't even register. They are allowed to do much worse than this on the streets of America without repercussions and yet they still cry that they are the ones living in a police state while wearing t-shirts of the very people who actually would bring about the very police state they think they're living in.

Amazing.

OT.

From CNN story about the Myanmar cyclone disaster:

World Vision has 600 staff members based in Myanmar who have spread out to deliver 35 million tons of rice, 4,000 gallons of water plus diesel fuel for generators that run pumps. Clothing, blankets and tarpaulins have been handed out to people living in and around Yangon

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

That's an impressive amount of rice.

They have editors at CNN, don't they?

re: #64 shug

The UN sides with whoever pays the highest bribes

except for Israel and the USA. They still take their money but give them nothing for it

WHORES of the Caliphellation!

re: #71 Wm T Sherman

OT.

From CNN story about the Myanmar cyclone disaster:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

That's an impressive amount of rice.

They have editors at CNN, don't they?

Is there even that much rice in the world?

re: #71 Wm T Sherman

LOL

re: #71 Wm T Sherman

OT.

From CNN story about the Myanmar cyclone disaster:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

That's an impressive amount of rice.

They have editors at CNN, don't they?

You talkin' about Burma?

In their thinking, if THEY aren't in complete control like they deserve to be, they are obviously being OPPRESSED. Everyone would logically agree with them if it weren't for diabolical propaganda, which MUST be silenced!

re: #70 Sharmuta

But to the warped mind of the American left- this doesn't even register. They are allowed to do much worse than this on the streets of America without repercussions and yet they still cry that they are the ones living in a police state while wearing t-shirts of the very people who actually would bring about the very police state they think they're living in.

Amazing.

Charles is 100% correct with his last statement about how the word/term "terrorism" has been hijacked. You see it everywhere from AQ, to the Leftists, to the ISM, to Air America, to Pacifica, to the Gay Rights Movement, to Animal Cruelty, .....

OT:

Nachus

Here's your throat back
Thanks for the loan

re: #73 MandyManners

Yes, Mandy-CNN has editors--they just don't EDIT.

re: #73 MandyManners

Is there even that much rice in the world?

Less than a month ago they said there was a shortage.

re: #71 Wm T Sherman

OT.

From CNN story about the Myanmar cyclone disaster:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

That's an impressive amount of rice.

They have editors at CNN, don't they?

Between that and the average tonnage of flour a single Pali consumes every day, no wonder there are food shortages.

re: #71 Wm T Sherman

From CNN story about the Myanmar cyclone disaster:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

That's an impressive amount of rice.

They have editors at CNN, don't they?

How much rice was it that the PA said the average Gazan needed? Something like a half-ton a day. And Reuters never blinked, just reported. (or was it the AP?)

re: #47 TalkinKamel

I've literally never met a Vietnamese who wasn't very nice, nearly over-enthusiastic in his/her manners or etiquette, and who didn't despise Communists (when the topic came up). As my father was in that war, it's been one of those impressions that has stuck.

Granted, I live in Florida, so I might not have had the experience to meet so many Vietnamese, but so far the ones I have met have all been very happy to be Americans, love democracy and hate what the commies did to their country.

It would be a shame to turn our backs on any of them. If any are illegal, it would be prudent to look at valid reasons to claim asylum, and maybe only fine them as a penalty (they still broke the law). Their situation, though, is nearly completely different than Mexicans who sneak back and forth at will for their own personal gains - and the solutions we provide should be different too. One would hope, at least.

~S~

The Vietnamese Communists are experts on the subject of terrorism.

"At the price of their hard-won experiences, our compatriots in the South realized that the fundamental trend of imperialism and its lackeys is violence and war; that is why the most correct path to be followed by the peoples to liberate themselves is revolutionary violence and revolutionary war. This path conforms strictly to the ethics and the fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism on class struggle, on the state and the revolution. Only by revolutionary violence can the masses defeat aggressive imperialism and its lackeys and overthrow the reactionary administration to take power." - General Vo Nguyen Giap

[Link: stinet.dtic.mil...]
[Link: history1900s.about.com...]
[Link: www.fullajahjane.com...]

fun at prayer time!

Any lizards got a link to liveblogging from Beruit?

The sandmonkey usually has good stuff, but he has been missing for 2 days. Dave at irraellycool is also strangely silent.

re: #49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Amen

re: #67 buzzsawmonkey

I am curious, Buzz... are you perchance an English major? I'm always impressed with your responses, as well as your rewrites of songs. :)

What about the terrorism against the trees, that gave their lives for the paper?!?

/naked tree climbers in berekeley

Teacher's Bible row turns ugly......
Parents express concern about environment at school

Many Mount Vernon Middle School students have been vocal in their support of science teacher John Freshwater in his claims to a First Amendment right to display a Bible on his desk.
.....
“My daughter Arie told me about a Jewish child who brought his Torah to school when other students brought Bibles in support of Freshwater,” she continued. “He thought he was supporting freedom of religious expression, and the other kids just ripped him apart. ‘What are you doing?’ they asked. ‘You can’t support Mr. Freshwater, you’re Jewish.’ So they don’t get it.
....
Murdoch said one of Arie’s friends wore a T-shirt to school that read, “I don’t need to wear a special T-shirt to be a Christian.” That individual was reportedly pushed into the lockers and called a “stupid atheist b****.” That is not acceptable in Murdoch’s mind.

re: #88 MrSilverDragon

I am curious, Buzz... are you perchance an English major? I'm always impressed with your responses, as well as your rewrites of songs. :)

He's an English General

re: #71 Wm T Sherman

OT.

From CNN story about the Myanmar cyclone disaster:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

That's an impressive amount of rice.

They have editors at CNN, don't they?

A gentle request please; don't use "Myanmar" that is name imposed by a illegitimate thugocracy on the people of Burma.

Pamphlets ?

Geez.

.

Don't want to terrorize the masses with 5 ounce pamphlets. That would cause massive panic in the streets. Thousands running from falling paper.

It isn't just pro-democracy people that get arrested by the Communists in Vietnam.

re: #93 Dad O' Blondes

Pamphlets ?

Geez.

.

Paper cuts, the terror of paper cuts. They are save the Vietnamese people from paper cuts.

re: #5 rawmuse

Vietnam and Cuba are the twin disgraces of my generation.
To think of what could have been.

Could have been much, much worse, if not for Reagan.

Of course, he was from an earlier generation.

The greatest one.

re: #91 debutaunt

He's an English General

Touché :)

re: #88 MrSilverDragon

I am curious, Buzz... are you perchance an English major? I'm always impressed with your responses, as well as your rewrites of songs. :)

Thanks, but the closest I got to an English major was an English minor when I was shopping around for something to get a degree in. I just like wordplay, is all. Of course, one could argue that lawschool was a "practical English degree."

Imagine the response for distributing critical books?

Maybe Obama can talk to them.

re: #71 Wm T Sherman

OT.

From CNN story about the Myanmar cyclone disaster:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

That's an impressive amount of rice.

They have editors at CNN, don't they?

Maybe this will be the beginning of the end for the junta.

re: #39 Charles

This is the outcome of a deliberate effort by repressive regimes to redefine the concept of "terrorism" to include any activity the regimes don't like. And it's being enabled by the corrupt UN, of course.

Of course. To these regimes, and to the UN, Israel putting up a wall is "terrorism", while Hamas blowing up pizza parlors is "resistance",

The UN has lost all its moral authority. It should be obvious to anyone, once Libya got on the "human rights" council or whatever.

re: #95 LanceKates

It isn't just pro-democracy people that get arrested by the Communists in Vietnam.

Very disturbing.

re: #71 Wm T Sherman

deliver 35 million tons of rice, 4,000 gallons of water

Paging Jesus, miracle needed here. I think that is about 10% of the total yearly world production. They are going to need more water to cook it in.

[Link: www.foodmarketexchange.com...]

re: #91 debutaunt

He's an English General

Tempting as it is, I do not have the time to write an entire parody of "I am the Very Model of a Modern Major-General" right now.

Yay, I don't have to get on the Burma-not-Myanmar soapbox today. The box if fully staffed by other lizards. Spreading the word...

/back to enforcing no-period-after-Dr in Dr Pepper

re: #106 buzzsawmonkey

Tempting as it is, I do not have the time to write an entire parody of "I am the Very Model of a Modern Major-General" right now.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

re: #86 Glackinspeil

Try here

These are the guys that John Kerry ran over to Paris to help during the peace talks. Classic treason

re: #105 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Paging Jesus, miracle needed here. I think that is about 10% of the total yearly world production. They are going to need more water to cook it in.

[Link: www.foodmarketexchange.com...]

Maybe they're using islamic calculators.

/35 trillion muslims

OT
Looked at the LGF dictionary this mornin', cause I hadn't looked at it in a couple of years. Yegads! The nodroG has been posting there. Talk about terminal LGF disease. Seems he has hisself a new blog, dedicated to his "brilliant" debunking of Mr. Johnson and LGF and complete with even more of his "brilliant" commentary on each post. It appears he started with posts way back in early 2005, and will move forward up to and including the day he was "spuriously" banned by Mr. Johnson for alleged anti-blah, blah, blah, ad nausea.

I had to laugh out loud, as his sickness is deep, and it is wide.

re: #107 Silhouette

Yay, I don't have to get on the Burma-not-Myanmar soapbox today. The box if fully staffed by other lizards. Spreading the word...

/back to enforcing no-period-after-Dr in Dr Pepper

Can you add the correct spelling of separate to your enforcement list?

All your pamphlets are belong to us.

re: #92 jcm

A gentle request please; don't use "Myanmar" that is name imposed by a illegitimate thugocracy on the people of Burma.

Understood.

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Try here

On point, sir!

re: #105 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Paging Jesus, miracle needed here. I think that is about 10% of the total yearly world production. They are going to need more water to cook it in.

[Link: www.foodmarketexchange.com...]

We've moved a CBG into the area, prepostioned a bunch of load C-130s and C-17s in Thailand.

The miracle needed is special delivery of the best aid possible.
A JDAM to the Junta.