I was lost back on thread #1.

re: #1 zombie

I was lost back on thread #1.

It's all geek to me.

fonts that are used on 90%+ of the web pages in existence, but don’t come installed by default on Linux.

SOunds like a handy go-by, then.

huh?

Oh look a shiny thing.

OT:

Way to go NY Times

Charles, where do you find the fonts package? And how do you get the file onto the Linux machine, to install it? USB key?

Silly me, I was using the Synaptic package manager in Ubuntu to install an enormous block of fonts...which didn't work.

pkgadd -d my a$$

Well, bummer, man, Eddy Arnold has passed away at age 89.

re: #6 Ward Cleaver

Charles, where do you find the fonts package? And how do you get the file onto the Linux machine, to install it? USB key?

Both methods above will download the necessary files automatically.

What's a "Terminal window"?

And LGF looks much better with Verdana and Trebuchet MS installed.

Not only does Verdana look nice, it's fun to say too.

Oh, but the way, war has started in Lebanon. Hezbollah seems to be making their play for the whole country....cnn.com

re: #9 Charles

Both methods above will download the necessary files automatically.

Does the fonts package come with the Linux OS, or do you find it on XP?

@7: Synaptic worked for me. But I prefer the terminal method since it's more obvious to me what you need and besides, sometimes the "recommended" packages really should have been required.

re: #10 MandyManners

What's a "Terminal window"?

"Look at that window Bones"......."He's dead Jim...."

re: #13 Ward Cleaver

Does the fonts package come with the Linux OS, or do you find it on XP?

That includes the fonts - they're downloaded by the installers.

Saw something interesting this morning... Looking at the latest state by state polling, it looks like in the Electoral College, as of now, Obama and McCain would be essentially one state each away from the Presidency...

That thought should scare the beJesus out of all of us...

OT:

ISRAELI Arabs celebrate Israel's creation by mouring "the 'Nakba'", then rioting.

/and we think our Leftist are bad.

T.M.G!

re: #16 Charles

That includes the fonts - they're downloaded by the installers.

Oh, okay.

/blink

re: #8 Ward Cleaver

Well, bummer, man, Eddy Arnold has passed away at age 89.

The Tennessee Stud.

re: #10 MandyManners

What's a "Terminal window"?

It's a program that allows you to type Unix commands directly into the computer's brain.

You can do it with Mac OSX and with Linux. Not sure about Windows. I doubt it.

It's very powerful -- and very dangerous. You must know what you're doing to risk it.

re: #15 eschew_obfuscation

"Look at that window Bones"......."He's dead Jim...."

LOL!

re: #18 WrathofG-d

OT:

ISRAELI Arabs celebrate Israel's creation by mouring "the 'Nakba'", then rioting.

They're doing it in Berkeley too.

re: #1 zombie

I was lost back on thread #1.

Clever violation of first rule?

Heh, I live by the shell prompt, since my server is colocated elsewhere, and I have no real need for a Window Manager. Pine rules!

re: #21 zombie

It's a program that allows you to type Unix commands directly into the computer's brain.

You can do it with Mac OSX and with Linux. Not sure about Windows. I doubt it.

It's very powerful -- and very dangerous. You must know what you're doing to risk it.

Thanks! I figured it was some kind of high-powered thingy.

Charles, you running chain dog imperialist! You're confusing me with all that geek speak! Keep it simple, like "equality and social justice now for workers exploited by gringo colonialist oppressors!" That's clear and to the point.

re: #24 zmdavid

Clever violation of first rule?

[Slaps forehead.] That didn't occur to me! Seriously!

BIG FONTS ARE RIPPING US OFF!

re: #23 zombie

They're doing it in Berkeley too.

I can smell them from here.

Phakestinians living in the "capital" of the Phakestinian territories claim that the "Jewish Holocaust is a lie/ or alternatively They are the ones suffering a Holocuast".

And LGF looks much better with Verdana and Trebuchet MS installed.

Verdana was designed to solve the conflict between designing for the printed page and designing for the screen. Unlike earlier fonts, which if you were lucvky were optimized for one environment or the other, Verdana was custom-designed to look the same and look good both in print and onscreen.
And Trebuchet just kicks ass. Where I work, Arial is the standard. But Arial is an abomination, so I use Trebuchet. QED.

re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

BIG FONTS ARE RIPPING US OFF!

Clever zombies are ripping off the first post!

How are your server hamsters handling all these changes?

re: #10 MandyManners

What's a "Terminal window"?

It refers to a window that presents a command-line-interface, ie, a prompt for text input/output, with no graphics, or very limited graphics. The interactions may be with a local machine, or a remote one.

re: #34 Cygnus

How are your server hamsters handling all these changes?

I'm guessing they'll be fine, once Charles downloads the hamster font-and-reload package.

/

re: #26 MandyManners

mmmm.....I see I am below Mandy today.

PHOTOS: Al Sharpton's Attempt at Shutting Down NYC Yesterday.

A friend of mine took these downtown. I wasn't about to head into this.. no sir..

re: #27 HugoChavez

Charles, you running chain dog imperialist! You're confusing me with all that geek speak! Keep it simple, like "equality and social justice now for workers exploited by gringo colonialist oppressors!" That's clear and to the point.

Hiya', Hugo! How's tricks?

re: #23 zombie

NO those would be Americans, or Non-ISRAELI Arabs, and other useful idiots.

The problem I have is that it was ISRAELI CITIZENS who on the 60th Anniversary of the CREATION of Israel (ie: not the "67 occupation") decided to mourn the creation of THEIR Country, and side with those that wish to see it destroyed.

@14

I can't get this freaking package of fonts to install by BOTH methods.

pkgadd -d says "package installed sucessfully"

synaptic package manager says pretty much the same thing. I reboot and I still have all the default ubuntu fonts, but no new ones. It must be my magic touch.

re: #1 zombie

G'morning Zombie - just curious, what ever happened with Fox wanting to use your pics?

re: #35 abolitionist

It refers to a window that presents a command-line-interface, ie, a prompt for text input/output, with no graphics, or very limited graphics. The interactions may be with a local machine, or a remote one.

I'm dizzzzzzy.

Something I agree with;

Israeli Arabs: Jewish youth must study Nakba

All Israelis should study the "Nakba" so they can see what a load of utter crap it is and not be taken in by comparing it to the Holocaust.

re: #10 MandyManners,

It is a window that is dying.

re: #37 HugoChavez

*whack*

re: #45 Iron Fist

,

It is a window that is dying.

LOL! I get this image of Logan's Run.

re: #40 Addendum to Zombie

NO those would be Americans, or Non-ISRAELI Arabs, and other useful idiots.

The problem I have is that it was ISRAELI CITIZENS who on the 60th Anniversary of the CREATION of Israel (ie: not the "67 occupation") decided to mourn the creation of THEIR Country, and side with those that wish to see it destroyed.

I would also point out that included in this mourning the creation of Israel, would be every single ISRAELI Arab Member of Knesset!

re: #45 Iron Fist

,

It is a window that is dying.

Or the last window you see before they strap you in the electric chair.

It's terminal.

re: #39 MandyManners

Beats having to just beat it.

re: #44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wrath: "Every Israeli that believes that Israel has no right to exist should walk 2 miles East and move to Jordan."

re: #44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Something I agree with;

Israeli Arabs: Jewish youth must study Nakba

All Israelis should study the "Nakba" so they can see what a load of utter crap it is and not be taken in by comparing it to the Holocaust.

Expulsion? They LEFT at the behest of the Arab nations.

re: #35 abolitionist

It refers to a window that presents a command-line-interface, ie, a prompt for text input/output, with no graphics, or very limited graphics. The interactions may be with a local machine, or a remote one.

In Windows, it's called a command window. Click Start, Run, type in cmd.exe, and hit Enter. Type Exit to close the command window.

Where can I get Calibri?

re: #50 HugoChavez

Beats having to just beat it.

Did you really hold that up or did some enterprising Lizard photo-shop it?

"No dialogue is possible if there is a refusal to recognize Israel," President Napolitano said at Israel's stand at the fair.

re: #32 haakondahl

Verdana was designed to solve the conflict between designing for the printed page and designing for the screen. Unlike earlier fonts, which if you were lucvky were optimized for one environment or the other, Verdana was custom-designed to look the same and look good both in print and onscreen.
And Trebuchet just kicks ass. Where I work, Arial is the standard. But Arial is an abomination, so I use Trebuchet. QED.

That's right - the MS fonts were specifically optimized to look good on computer screens. That's why they're so popular as web fonts.

Caption: "here lady, let me show you how you're really supposed to suck off the teat of the state"

re: #54 Macker

Where can I get Calibri?

At a sea-food restaurant.

Oh, wait. That's calamari.

Never mind.

re: #55 MandyManners

I just wanted to see if my fellow dictators we're still awake in the UN Assembly.

re: #58 HugoChavez

Caption: "here lady, let me show you how you're really supposed to suck off the teat of the state"

That gal had no class.

re: #27 HugoChavez

Charles, you running chain dog imperialist! You're confusing me with all that geek speak! Keep it simple, like "equality and social justice now for workers exploited by gringo colonialist oppressors!" That's clear and to the point.

Hugo!

Where your boy Mamood? I notice he set up shipping lane for you, abut DPRK not so much. I help him set up nuke for stooge eye doctor in desert, but DPRK not have oil. So instead, ship lane to South America.

Ratin America not even have JuChe.

re: #60 HugoChavez

I just wanted to see if my fellow dictators we're still awake in the UN Assembly.

They're the only ones awake. The rest of the world is sleeping.

re: #62 Kim Jong-Il

Hugo!

Where your boy Mamood? I notice he set up shipping lane for you, abut DPRK not so much. I help him set up nuke for stooge eye doctor in desert, but DPRK not have oil. So instead, ship lane to South America.

Ratin America not even have JuChe.

Here's Mamood.

re: #63 MandyManners

Mandy, you hot Zionist oppressor! Do you like my big gun?

re: #38 NoSubmission

PHOTOS: Al Sharpton's Attempt at Shutting Down NYC Yesterday.

A friend of mine took these downtown. I wasn't about to head into this.. no sir..

My hats off to you ,, after being amongst that rabble, did you go get sandbalsted to get the ICK off ?

re: #56 yochanan

He rightly points out the major issue to be discussed relating to Israel's 60th Anniversary.

Despite numerous claims that their complaint is against the "Occupation", which they swear means that which took place in 1967, at this occasion they proove that it is actually the creation and existance of Israel that really bother's them.

The protests, etc., against Israel's 60th anniversay is not against the "occupation" (as defined above) but instead the entire existance of Israel itself.

/just as it was when multiple Arabs armies attacked Israel on May 15, 1948, promising genocide.

re: #62 Kim Jong-Il

I see you're not ronery any more.

re: #38 NoSubmission

PHOTOS: Al Sharpton's Attempt at Shutting Down NYC Yesterday.

A friend of mine took these downtown. I wasn't about to head into this.. no sir..

G-D BLESS THE POLICE
F''' AL SHARPTON

re: #66 HugoChavez

Mandy, you hot Zionist oppressor! Do you like my big gun?

You call that big?

Who let all these dictators in here?

re: #62 Kim Jong-Il

Heil ME!

re: #66 HugoChavez

Mandy, you hot Zionist oppressor! Do you like my big gun?

Charrrrers,

Creen-up Aisrr--Airsrel--comment #66.

(Just what world need. Cathoric Zionist with horny).

re: #66 HugoChavez

Mandy, you hot Zionist oppressor! Do you like my big gun?

Why do all you tin-horn dictators have to go shooting off guns all the time?....

Hussein
Chavez
Zarqawi
Cheney

;~)

re: #65 song_and_dance_man,

Speak my name, and I shall appear. I don't know where Hillary or Batman are.

Technobabble.

re: #42 Russkilitlover

G'morning Zombie - just curious, what ever happened with Fox wanting to use your pics?

As far as I know, they didn't use them -- when I asked for reasonable recompense for my work, they didn't want to pay. So they decamped. They just wanted free content. Ridiculous attitude.

As soon as they started low-balling me, I suspected it wasn't going to work out.

But we stayed on friendly terms. Maybe something will work out in the future.

re: #18 WrathofG-d

Nakba- more proof of how fake they are.

How ‘nakba’ proves the fiction of a Palestinian Nation

[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]

re: #72 Charles

You calling ME a dictator?

Noooooo.

re: #76 Satan

Your homies Lil' Kim and Hugo are here.

re: #75 eschew_obfuscation

Why do all you tin-horn dictators have to go shooting off guns all the time?....

Hussein
Chavez
Zarqawi
Cheney

;~)

See? No respect.

re: #80 opinionated

Nakba- more proof of how fake they are.

How ‘nakba’ proves the fiction of a Palestinian Nation

[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]

Read it earlier today.

EVERYONE MUST READ THIS ARTICLE

re: #82 MandyManners,

I'm waiting on them. I have all of eternity to play with them...

re: #72 Charles

Who let all these dictators in here?

The UN

BIG SOCK PUPPET IS RIPPING US OFF!

re: #79 zombie

As far as I know, they didn't use them -- when I asked for reasonable recompense for my work, they didn't want to pay. So they decamped. They just wanted free content. Ridiculous attitude.

As soon as they started low-balling me, I suspected it wasn't going to work out.

But we stayed on friendly terms. Maybe something will work out in the future.

Definitry keep talking. Eventuary, they send Ted Turner. Crazy as cockraoch downwind of batcave, but when he says pay, then they pay and smile. Ted Turner your friend.

re: #83 Kim Jong-Il

A dictator really should have an avatar.

re: #85 Satan

,

I'm waiting on them. I have all of eternity to play with them...

I have a really funny link of a cartoon of you and Osama but taste dictates that I not post it.

re: #85 Satan

,

I'm waiting on them. I have all of eternity to play with them...

Until Saddam pull your chain. Then it's "bring out the gimp!"

re: #89 zmdavid

A dictator really should have an avatar.

North Korea is too poor for avatars.

re: #89 zmdavid

A dictator really should have an avatar.

A "Dictatar"!

You figure out how to pronounce it.....

re: #89 zmdavid

A dictator really should have an avatar.

Security. Duh.

[execute him]

re: #84 Ben Hur

Read it earlier today.

EVERYONE MUST READ THIS ARTICLE

Ditto. Read THIS article.

re: #20 MandyManners

The Tennessee Stud.

/I liked him better in "Green Acres".

re: #94 Kim Jong-Il

Just how rronery are you?

re: #92 MandyManners

North Korea is too poor for avatars.

Besides. Who need avatar when you have JuChe?

Fedora 8 introduced the new "Liberation" fonts. As a font expert, Charles, what's your take on these? Do they fulfill their intent?

re: #97 BulgarWheat

Just how rronery are you?

Hardy Har HAr. We got jokes.

re: #72 Charles Uh, have you spoken to Stinky lately?
Too bad he's not a superdelegate and can sell his vote like Yberra in California for a cool $20,000,000.
(from numerous comments on the prior thread!).

Man. I've just had a chance to catch up, and that Vietnam thread is downright disturbing. I think Charles has his finger on a really important -- and again, disturbing -- trend.

I'd like to think the UN, and much of the world at large, isn't that gullible. But I suspect otherwise.

Dick Tator

Grizzly victim drives 25 km for help

re: #98 Kim Jong-Il

Besides. Who need avatar when you have JuChe?

What's a JuChe?

re: #104 buzzsawmonkey

Nakba, Nakba!

Who's there?

Israeli!

Israeli who?

Israeli about time you phony refugees relocated to the existing Palestinian state and got a life.

Funny. You don't look JuChe.

re: #79 zombie

As far as I know, they didn't use them -- when I asked for reasonable recompense for my work, they didn't want to pay. So they decamped. They just wanted free content. Ridiculous attitude.

As soon as they started low-balling me, I suspected it wasn't going to work out.

But we stayed on friendly terms. Maybe something will work out in the future.

Good luck with that and stick to your guns about payment. Mr. Russkilitlover is a photog and "worked" for a while in LA. Everyone thought that he should be grateful for the experience and additions to his portfolio and not be concerned about being actually paid.

re: #67 sattv4u2

My hats off to you ,, after being amongst that rabble, did you go get sandbalsted to get the ICK off ?

I didn't go. A friend of mine went and took these. Looks crazy.

re: #99 jokono

Fedora 8 introduced the new "Liberation" fonts. As a font expert, Charles, what's your take on these? Do they fulfill their intent?

Haven't tried printing with them yet, but they look very good on screen.

re: #99 jokono

Fedora 8 introduced the new "Liberation" fonts. As a font expert, Charles, what's your take on these? Do they fulfill their intent?

Are there black liberation fonts, too?

re: #10 MandyManners

What's a "Terminal window"?

The window THE LIGHT comes through.
/

re: #107 MandyManners

What's a JuChe?

JuChe is doctrine of DPRK complete self-reliance.

DPRK not need nothing from nobody never.

Step 1: Aggravate entire world--borders closed. Nothing can get in.
Step 2: Subjugate entire population. Nothing can get out.
Step 3: Reduce citizenry to animal-like conditions. Nobody expect nothing.
Step 4: Ted Turner bring me bottle of scotch. American orchestra play for me. All of my needs are met through my own actions. See? Self-Reliance!

re: #23 zombie

/ But...but.... Berkely is a gun free zone!

re: #99 jokono

Fedora 8 introduced the new "Liberation" fonts. As a font expert, Charles, what's your take on these? Do they fulfill their intent?

Are there black liberation fonts, too?

I'm waiting for the "Revolution" fonts....

If you’re a newbie to the command line interface, don’t type the dollar signs in the examples above — they’re the default shell prompts you see when entering commands, and that’s the usual way of showing CLI examples.

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re: #108 Kim Jong-Il

Funny. You don't look JuChe.

Lol!

re: #111 buzzsawmonkey

GROAAAAAN! You could have stopped, you had a moment when you didn't have to go there but noooooooooo!

re: #99 jokono

Fedora 8 introduced the new "Liberation" fonts.

Usage will become mandatory if Obama is elected?

re: #113 zmdavid

Are there black liberation fonts, too?

There's a Panther joke in there somewhere, but it escapes me at the moment.

re: #117 eschew_obfuscation

I'm waiting for the "Revolution" fonts....

Heh, On a lark, I googled it. There is a revolution font.
[Link: www.myfonts.com...]

re: #119 zombie

Lol!

Ror!

How come Zombie never post photo of JuChe Protest in Berkery?

"Terminal window"

Ain't that a Command Line Interface? "Terminal window" is for sissies, CLI is for Real Techno-Lizards. ;P

New Science Films Produced

Pyongyang, May 7 (KCNA) -- The Korean Documentary and Scientific Film Studio has produced several science films.
@The science film "Filtered and Magnetized Water Revitalizing Life" gives a scientific and interesting explanation of the need to drink magnetized water and a detailed account of the structure of the devices filtering and magnetizing water helpful for the promotion of human health.
@The science film "Extractive Koryo Medicine" introduces extractive Koryo medicine more efficacious and handy to use than the Koryo medicine of bygone days the dose of which was large and which was inconvenient to keep. It tells about how to make extract of Koryo medicine and how high standard of scientific technology and equipment it requires.
@The science film "New Premix, Efficacious Feed Additive" explains about premix used as feed additive complex in stock breeding worldwide.
@The film tells about the production processes of new premix and the method of its use and gives an analytical account of it successfully made by Korean scientists with domestic raw material and technology to suit home conditions.

If you know how to read, you can see self-reliance mechanism!

Miscellaneous News possibly OT...

Rock Port Missouri, population 1,300, is the first 100% wind-powered city in the US. Thought it was Washington DC...

"Terrorist Recognition Handbook: A Practitioner's Manual for Predicting and Identifying Terrorist Activities" by Malcolm Nance a 20-year veteran of the U.S. intelligence community. Interesting reading...

re: #126 Kim Jong-Il

Cool, the People need nothing but water run through a magnet!

re: #23 zombie

They're doing it in Berkeley too.

Nice work. Complete jackasses.

re: #126 Kim Jong-Il

How's the Soylent Green today? Fresh?

Sit Ubuntu sit!

re: #123 zmdavid

Heh, On a lark, I googled it. There is a revolution font.
[Link: www.myfonts.com...]

Oh brother.....gotta get up pretty early to get ahead of this bunch!

re: #131 loppyd

Sit Ubuntu sit!

That's a Shaggy Dog Story, Red Sox Fan.

re: #126 Kim Jong-Il

New Science Films Produced

If you know how to read, you can see self-reliance mechanism!

Juche, baby!

re: #129 coquimbojoe

Nice work. Complete jackasses.

RW or OR yesterday had the idea to walk up and yell!
BOOM! That's why they need check points.

I figured toss in an M80 for a realistic BOOM! And lefties dropping a load in their pants.

re: #128 jcm

Cool, the People need nothing but water run through a magnet!

You can read JuChe! Now see world's tallest hotel, Ryugyong.. I designed. Built in my city.

Charles: Are you on the way to becoming the FONT of all knowledge?

re: #72 Charles

Who let all these dictators in here?

Next thing ya know we'll see Mr Dinner Jacket in here!

Good night. Sleep Tight.

hmmm...All this talk about Fedora and Ubuntu...I'm becoming eager to try out Ubuntu...especially given all the problems I'm having with Vista -- not that I could actually wipe out Vista and install Ubuntu -- since, thanks to Microsoft Windows Vista, I don't have a CD copy of Windows Vista Premium...grrrr...But I do have other computers (older ones) and I've got a lot of hard drives lying around...Yeah, I'm tempted...think I'll try it out...(I recall some decades ago of using UNIX with Lynx as the "browser" -- it was all text, all CLI, and it was really, really great -- remember when Netscape came out -- the browser with the pictures -- but I preferred Lynx...much faster/easier than Netscape...have also installed/used in the past a Linux OS -- so, Ubuntu shouldn't be that difficult..)

re: #25 MrSilverDragon

Heh, I live by the shell prompt, since my server is colocated elsewhere, and I have no real need for a Window Manager. Pine rules!

Yesssssssss! A fellow Pine user! (big grin)

JAFLW

re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

BIG FONTS ARE RIPPING US OFF!

No, Command Line Interface is ripping us off!

JAFLW

In Ubuntu, it’s very simple to install these fonts with the apt-get utility. Just open a Terminal window and type:

$ sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts

Then log out and back in, or restart.

Oh, you sweet-talker ...

}:)     [Can't wait to get home to the dual-boot laptop ... ]

re: #112 Charles

Haven't tried printing with them yet, but they look very good on screen.

If anyone's interested, I have Liberation Mono installed for experimental purposes as a blockquote font on my blog.

Wow, linux doesn't include common fonts and requires obscure terminal window commands. Sign me up. Why would I want an intuitive graphical-interface, anyway.

re: #145 carlitos

Yeah! Who needs the stupid GUIs, eh? CLI is the only way to go! everything else is for wusses..

as long as it runs basic, i guess i'll be fine.
10 print "i hate windows and wish my powerpc mac would run more stuff"
20 goto 10

Charles,

I tried your way with Fedora but it didn't work. For whatever reason, the rpm package was not created within /RPMS/noarch. Did it the way below and that worked out.

1. wget http[colon.slash.slash]corefonts.sourceforge.net/m sttcorefonts-2.0-1.spec
2. yum install rpm-build cabextract
3. rpmbuild -ba msttcorefonts-2.0-1.spec
4. yum localinstall --nogpgcheck /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/msttcorefonts-2.0-1.no arch.rpm

re: #140 J.S.

hmmm...(I recall some decades ago of using UNIX with Lynx as the "browser" -- it was all text, all CLI, and it was really, really great -- .....)

MOSAIC baby! woot!

Another reason I like Klikit It give you the strength of (k)ubuntu, but the installer has ready built scripts for Fonts, DVD playback, Quicktime, Flash. Java, etc...

re: #146 J.S.

Yeah! Who needs the stupid GUIs, eh? CLI is the only way to go! everything else is for wusses..

heh, if you aren't changing vacuum tubes to program, you ain't crap....

re: #4 WrathofG-d

huh?

Oh look a shiny thing.

My favorite. Captures the mood nicely.

Actually fonts are often a make and break for Linux newbies. They try out a Live CD, log on, watch some websites...

Ohhh how ugly. End.

So installing the right fonts is most important.

re: #10 MandyManners

What's a "Terminal window"?

On your windows machine, click on START, click on RUN, type in CMD, and press ENTER.

It should pop up a black box called the MSDOS Prompt.

It's kinda like that.

re: #145 carlitos

Wow, linux doesn't include common fonts and requires obscure terminal window commands. Sign me up. Why would I want an intuitive graphical-interface, anyway.

There is a program called synaptic with a nice, pretty, point and click GUI in Ubuntu that will do it all for you. Redhat has something similar. We give instructions for the CLI because it's easier to NOT screw it up. We do the same in tech support. It's much easier to say "type in 'CD-dot-dot'" than it is to say, "OK, you see that little picture of a folder with a right angle on it with the side that is pointing up has an arrow on it? Click that."

Ubuntu... is that like ebonics?

Even better, just go to a terminal and paste

sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts (hit enter key)

then enter your password

Looks like it downloads a lot of infrastructure

Actually, for those scared of the command line but new to linux, in Ubuntu, click System : Administration : Synaptic Package Manager
and search for msttcorefonts. Check the box for the application or feature you want to install and click apply. Then hit control-alt-backspace (or log out and log in again) and you're good to go.

re: #158 loggiedog

Actually, for those scared of the command line but new to linux, in Ubuntu, click System : Administration : Synaptic Package Manager
and search for msttcorefonts. Check the box for the application or feature you want to install and click apply. Then hit control-alt-backspace (or log out and log in again) and you're good to go.

Thanx Loggie! You just proved my point in post 155. I would have attempted to say what you did, but I'm just too lazy to type all that. So, in conclusion, you can do what Loggie said that I quote above, or the other thing that Loggie said:

sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts (hit enter key)
then enter your password

#159,

ArcherB,

There's an easy way and a hard way to do things-- for those used to clicking on things, I guess Synaptic Package Manager is easy, but for those who feel relatively comfortable at the terminal, typing sudo apt-get something is a heck of a lot faster and easier.

The most difficult thing about Linux is that while it's possible to get most hardware to work properly under Linux, it's not always a straightforward path. Nonetheless, I prefer Linux to Windows any day, and only prefer Mac to Linux for photography work.

re: #53 Ward Cleaver

In Windows, it's called a command window. Click Start, Run, type in cmd.exe, and hit Enter. Type Exit to close the command window.

Thats kinda like saying that an Porsche 911 and a skateboard are the same thing since they both have 4 wheels. Try the following at a DOS prompt:
NUM=1;while test "$NUM" -le "100";do;echo "LGF Lizards rule the net!"; (( NUM = "$NUM" + "1" ));done

It will work in almost any Unix variant, but not DOS. The *nix--savvy lizard always has Putty installed, and knows to just highlight the above line, and press [CTRL][C] to copy, then put the cursor in the PuTTY window and right-click.

Charles--if you need help with any shell scripting, drop me an email.

Geekasaurus

You Ubuntu nerds...*sigh*...or you could just check the repositories. j/k
OR...you could just use open fonts! There's an idea.
Fedora 9 will be here in under a week. Rock on.

In Opensuse these fonts are available for installation from the online update in the Yast package manager. Just check the install Ms fonts (box/line.)

I think Opensuse is one of the easier Linux distributions for new users because of the Yast Package manager.

Here is a script file, install_mtsscorefonts, that will do the job for FC7 and presumably subsequent FC "things". (Beware of possible line wraps.)

===8<--- # cat install_msttcorefonts
#!/bin/bash
mkdir mtsscorefonts
cd mtsscorefonts
wget [Link: corefonts.sourceforge.net...]
yum install rpm-build cabextract
rpmbuild -ba msttcorefonts-2.0-1.spec
yum localinstall --nogpgcheck /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/msttcorefonts-2.0-1.no arch.rpm
===8<---

{^_^}

re: #164 jdow-antijihad

Let's do that again without the automatic linking nonsense. Delete the "\" characters and the following newline.

===8<--- # cat install_msttcorefonts
#!/bin/bash
mkdir mtsscorefonts
cd mtsscorefonts
wget http:\
//\
corefonts.sourceforge.net/msttcorefonts-2.0-1.spec
yum install rpm-build cabextract
rpmbuild -ba msttcorefonts-2.0-1.spec
yum localinstall --nogpgcheck /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/msttcorefonts-2.0-1.no arch.rpm
===8

Sweet! Things do indeed look better -- the default Ubuntu font has a ridiculous amount of whitespace around it. Even with my 1920x1200 desktop I felt like I was in 800x600 res with all the wasted space.

Thanks for the tip Charles -- saved me some time there. Timing was perfect too, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 8.04 LTS two days ago and that should be the final OS upgrade for this five year old dual-Athlon workhorse. Now I do all Internet tasks from here, keeping the new WinXP64 quad-core with all my work apps off the Net. I just need to DD-WRT or Tomato the WRT54G router, and I'll be set for the next while.

I for one don't mind the geeky tech posts BTW, especially the Linux ones.