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hey rightside!

Lil Ol, Miguel told me we'd see you over here. I want me some fruit cup, pleeeease!

Ah, here we are! Bulgar, how did you manage to sneak in before rightside?

Wow, following up an ID thread with a quote by Pascal... is this Charles' version of the "equal time" doctrine?

re: #3 galloping granny

sneaky feet, heh!

re: #2 BulgarWheat

Lil Ol, Miguel told me we'd see you over here. I want me some fruit cup, pleeeease!

Little served up the fruitcup over in the warzone. I've got coffee if you want some and might be able to rustle up some bagels.

re: #6 galloping granny

bagles sound great. gotta grab a shower and roust the mini-wheats from bed for another day of education.....

be back soon.

Good morning, Lizards!

A (very) minor prayer request, just for today: that my Lizard-in-Training- does his best on the AP US HIstory exam.

gallopinggranny: is there a particular brand of garden glove you recommend?, especially for avoiding blisters?

re: #6 galloping granny

Won't all that rustling increase bagel adrenalin and change how wild they taste?

Well Pascal. Heh
He was a GREAT Catholic scientist.
Eat your heart out, KT.

I live in Australia and at school recently i have been hearing stuff about racism in america. im extremely pro-american and want to know about black-white race relations in the US. Can anybody help me?

re: #6 galloping granny

Little served up the fruitcup over in the warzone. I've got coffee if you want some and might be able to rustle up some bagels.

The warzone Hahahahaha.

re: #11 zionausi

Can you be more specific?

re: #8 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards!

A (very) minor prayer request, just for today: that my Lizard-in-Training- does his best on the AP US HIstory exam.

gallopinggranny: is there a particular brand of garden glove you recommend?, especially for avoiding blisters?

Prayers for you ;)

Morning Lizards!

Rainy morning from rural virginny

re: #8 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards!

A (very) minor prayer request, just for today: that my Lizard-in-Training- does his best on the AP US HIstory exam.

gallopinggranny: is there a particular brand of garden glove you recommend?, especially for avoiding blisters?

I must admit goddess, I do not use garden gloves except when I am having to drag the miserable blackberry brambles out of the garden. Then I just use something I grabbed off the shelf at the hardware store that fits and is thick enough to protect my hands. Never had a blister from gardening.

re: #15 rightside

Morning Lizards!

Rainy morning from rural virginny

Good morning :)

Good morning Lizardim! 68 in Chambodia as Rosy Fingered Dawn starts her creeping thing; going up to about 84. Poured rain for a while last night. More "assessment workshop" stuff today, then tonight meet and greet the 'rents, then tomorrow commencement. *sniff*

re: #8 goddessoftheclassroom

is there a particular brand of garden glove you recommend?, especially for avoiding blisters?

Yes, "children."

re: #13 freetoken

well some of my teachers say that the "ultra-conservative" american subconscious cant accept a black hero in a film and that there are still strained relations between blacks and whites

re: #16 galloping granny

I must admit goddess, I do not use garden gloves except when I am having to drag the miserable blackberry brambles out of the garden. Then I just use something I grabbed off the shelf at the hardware store that fits and is thick enough to protect my hands. Never had a blister from gardening.

I guess I just have these dainty, fragile-petal hands!

(My mom would say that obviously I don't do enough housework...)

re: #16 galloping granny

I must admit goddess, I do not use garden gloves except when I am having to drag the miserable blackberry brambles out of the garden. Then I just use something I grabbed off the shelf at the hardware store that fits and is thick enough to protect my hands. Never had a blister from gardening.

Me neither; I just buy a bunch of the cheap gloves and then I don't feel guilty when they get so nasty I just have to throw them out.

re: #18 Lucius Septimius

Yes, "children."

That too! Some of the best garden equipment around.

Sorry to leave so soon, but I got to get the L-i-T to school early to get ready for that test.

Have a great Friday!

Good morning! Yes, goddess, may God grant wisdom and fortitude today to yours and to all who are taking APs this week.

re: #11 zionausi

I live in Australia and at school recently i have been hearing stuff about racism in America. im extremely pro-American and want to know about black-white race relations in the US. Can anybody help me?

HOW ARE AUSSIE/ABORIGINAL RELATIONS OR AUSSIEMUSLIM RELATIONS.?

re: #20 goddessoftheclassroom

I guess I just have these dainty, fragile-petal hands!

(My mom would say that obviously I don't do enough housework...)

Have lizard junior do your heavy digging, get a cheap pair of gloves at the hardware store and most importantly get hand tools that fit your hands. Some garden tools like trowels have very fat handles that can be uncomfortable to use.

I can't look -- was the Expelled thread ugly? (And good morning from a rainy SE PA.)

re: #25 yochanan

im just looking for some material to argue with because i got nothing on the subject

re: #19 zionausi

well some of my teachers say that the "ultra-conservative" american subconscious cant accept a black hero in a film and that there are still strained relations between blacks and whites

If that were true, Denzel Washington and Samuel L. Jackson would not be two of the biggest stars in America. The reality is that if one finds any reason for criticizing a notable Black, say that Communist cretin who used to "represent" me in Congress, Cynthia McKinney, you must be a racist.

As for the "subconscious," anyone who claims to be able to describe what the American "subconscious" is is full of dingo-doo. You can't put a nation on the couch.

re: #11 zionausi

I live in Australia and at school recently i have been hearing stuff about racism in america. im extremely pro-american and want to know about black-white race relations in the US. Can anybody help me?

The US is a pretty big place. I would venture a guess that black-white relations in my little Vermont town, where there is one black family, are pretty different than black-white relations in LA. Or at Trinity Church in Chicago.

re: #30 galloping granny

im just sick of this bullshit america bashing and want to counter it

re: #30 galloping granny

The US is a pretty big place. I would venture a guess that black-white relations in my little Vermont town, where there is one black family, are pretty different than black-white relations in LA. Or at Trinity Church in Chicago.

Yet accoring to 'experts' we all have one big 'ultra-conservative' subconcious when it comes to race or religion...

You getjer fruitcup at your own risk. :-(

/it's truly extraordinary how supremely disinterested I am in that discussion.

Here's breakfast. I guess granny has the bagels.

re: #8 goddessoftheclassroom

Boy, wouldn't THAT be embarrassing if he didn't? ;-)

I'm sure he'll do great!

Oh, and use any old kind of garden gloves.

/signed, The Poison Ivy Kid

re: #11 zionausi

I live in Australia and at school recently i have been hearing stuff about racism in america. im extremely pro-american and want to know about black-white race relations in the US. Can anybody help me?

It's not based on conservatives.

If you want to learn about the reality of racism you may want to read Star Parker's "Uncle Sam's Plantation".

re: #31 zionausi

im just sick of this bullshit america bashing and want to counter it

I don't think that anyone can give you an honest picture of what "black white relations in the US" are in even 1000 words or less, starting with the quite apparent fact that many blacks seem to have a very different view than whites do and that black-white relations literally can change from one city block to the next.

You might try asking for specific examples of ridiculous statements.

re: #30 galloping granny

The US is a pretty big place. I would venture a guess that black-white relations in my little Vermont town, where there is one black family, are pretty different than black-white relations in LA. Or at Trinity Church in Chicago.

Or Atlanta -- I remember when, in the aftermath of 9/11 when it came out that Cynthia McKinney, the original patroness of the troofers, had received on the day before 9/11 piles of money from Arab donors and thence lost in the dem primary, her father standing up and yelling about how she was undone by the J*E*W*S. Or our benighted mayoress Shirley Jackson and Hizdisonor Andrew Young doing radio spots last year claiming that Republicans "wanted to bring back the dogs and firehoses." Hatred of whites is the stock and trade of the Black "leadership" in these parts. Now you could argue that they learned it from the segregationists who ran the state a half-century ago, but the fact is that they are every bit as bad as the evil they claim to fight against, an evil that hasn't existed for a generation or more. Oh, and who votes for them? Rich white folks; a previous Black mayor, the one who said the '96 Olympics were the first ever held in "an African City," owed his success to rich and upper-middle-class white (and in once case, largely gay) voters in two sections of the city. Meanwhile, he lost the hard-core poor black parts of the city, but in those areas voter turnout was only about 5%, so it didn't matter.

Rich ultra liberal whites putting into office race-baiting Blacks. That's the story of race relations where I live.

re: #31 zionausi

im just sick of this bullshit america bashing and want to counter it

I'm guessing your teachers have been lapping up the Kevin Rudd Kool-Aid.

re: #36 Lucius Septimius

Rich ultra liberal whites putting into office race-baiting Blacks. That's the story of race relations where I live.

That seems to be the story of bad race relations anywhere they exist in the country.

re: #38 galloping granny

That seems to be the story of bad race relations anywhere they exist in the country.

Which is why, when I look at Obamamama's supporters I say "uh huh, more of the same."

re: #19 zionausi

"Strained relations..." is a pretty broad statement.

IMO, anybody who proclaims some insight into another culture without having lived in that culture, and studied it closely, is likely to end up misled by their own pre-formed opinions.

Compared to Australia, the US has larger urban areas with much large populations of various minorities. There exists, as everywhere, a self selection. That is, a certain member of a group will choose to move to locations and associate with people with whom they feel comfortable.

A great deal of the violent crime data would suggest inequity between races if one didn't include all other factors (such as age group and gang membership, which are strong factors.)

The one area where there has been much discussion is that that the percentage of black males with prison records is much higher than for caucasians. I believe it is in New Mexico state where almost 1/3 of all black males have prison records (but you need to check me on that.) This has apparently caused problems down the line as prison records usually make it harder to get employment, etc.

However, other people have pointed out that the so called War on Drugs is a significant contributor to this disparity (among black and caucasian males.) That is, a large number of the black males in prison are guilty of minor drug possession charges, say marijuana possession, but because they are repeat offenders get sent to prison (some states have "three strikes" laws.)

So I think this is a very complex issue. Frankly this issue (of African descended populations) shows up anywhere the slave trade went, and a small minority of African slaves ended up in the US proper.

I've lived overseas in the orient, and my perception is that in that part of the world racism was much more intense and institutionalized than in the US. However, as much of the modern media is US based the American issues become much more well known than similar issues in say Korea or China or Taiwan or Indonesia, etc...

On black heros in films and media... I have to give that one more thought. Again, it is not unexpected that someone on the otherside of the world would judge the US by films coming out of the US, but perhaps that says more about the film industry than general US culture.

Ok, good night lizards.
God bless all :)

re: #41 MigueldowninMexico

Sayonara Miguel....

Nite Miguel!

re: #41 MigueldowninMexico

Schlaf gut!

Good Morning Lizards.

Here's a shocker, California Democrats are looking to raise taxes.

California tax proposals target beer-loving, pornography-watching yacht owners

SACRAMENTO -- As state leaders hunt for politically palatable solutions to the swelling budget shortfall, some Democrats are proposing unorthodox ways to generate cash.

Strip clubs, six-packs, grocery bags and iTunes downloads are all in their sights as alternatives to broad income or sales tax hikes. So are gas guzzlers and yachts -- and a tax loophole for criminals.

Of course, the idea of higher taxes is not well received by the public:

"Some people are e-mailing, threatening to come and slug me," said Assemblyman Jim Beall (D-San Jose), who hopes to see a $1.80 tax added to the price of every six-pack of beer sold in the state. "We're getting some pretty nasty comments."

Porn is on the list for higher taxes:

Calderon said the resistance to his bill did not surprise him. But he is perplexed that he hasn't been able to get more traction for another proposal: a 25% tax on sex toys, strip shows, pornographic magazines and videos and anything else sold in an "adult entertainment venue."

Which goes to show that the left has absolutely no objection to porn, they just want their piece of the action.

Plastic bags are on the hit list:

Assemblyman Mike Davis (D-Los Angeles) is targeting a wider group of consumers. Almost every Californian would bear some of the brunt of his proposal to charge a 25-cent tax on every plastic carryout bag from stores.

The elderly is targeted for a "tax break" that will make them work for free for the government:

But Davis says he knows people are suffering financially and has proposed a property tax break for low-income seniors. There's a catch: The proposal (AB 2459) would require seniors to "work off" their taxes in county offices, doing such jobs as gardening, record filing or data entry.

Fidel Castro only dreamed of pulling this last one.

This is going to be an interesting political season.

re: #40 freetoken

I was told that if the hero in a film was black then he would have minor character flaws because a black person cant be perfect. i thought it was all bullshit.

We were discussing the other day the lack of racism in the US military and the rampant racism in prisons.

re: #40 freetoken

The one area where there has been much discussion is that that the percentage of black males with prison records is much higher than for caucasians. I believe it is in New Mexico state where almost 1/3 of all black males have prison records (but you need to check me on that.) This has apparently caused problems down the line as prison records usually make it harder to get employment, etc.

And yet in New Mexico, the fact that 1/3 of all blacks have prison records really would not give you the true picture at all, since New Mexico is overwhelmingly bi-cultural between American Indians of various tribes and whites of either American or Spanish heritage. There are very few blacks proportionally in New Mexico.

re: #46 zionausi

I was told that if the hero in a film was black then he would have minor character flaws because a black person cant be perfect. i thought it was all bullshit.

Ask for examples. And since when don't the white characters have "minor character flaws."

re: #40 freetoken

Beg to agree with you... Will Smith and Spike Lee and others demonstrate something in America NOT found much in nations like Korea and Japan or China or Thailand... RACIAL MINORITY members rising to feature-film stars...

There are some dynamics in Thailand/Korea that mitigate AGAINST such, although otherwise they are pretty fair nations...

re: #46 zionausi

I was told that if the hero in a film was black then he would have minor character flaws because a black person cant be perfect. i thought it was all bullshit.

Another way to look at that would be the black hero would be that much more admirable because he has to deal with those flaws on top of whatever else the plot throws at him.....

But then again, the movie industry is hardly a worthile lithmus test for life in contemporary America.

re: #45 3 wood

$1.80 tax on a six-back of beer? GDamned Communists! Time for another state-wide initiative, "The Beer-drinkers' Bill of Rights."

*wothwhile

/preview and I go way back

re: #51 Fenway_Nation

But then again, the movie industry is hardly a worthile lithmus test for life in contemporary America.

True, it's mostly a Gramscian anti-American propaganda machine, run by a bunch of rich folk who wish the US were a dictatorship and they were the Politburo.

Of course most of them would end up going up against the wall if the Revolution did ever come, which would be the only gratifying thing about it.

re: #52 Lucius Septimius

$1.80 tax on a six-back of beer? GDamned Communists! Time for another state-wide initiative, "The Beer-drinkers' Bill of Rights."

It is a preemptive carbon credit tax:-)

re: #52 Lucius Septimius

$1.80 tax on a six-back of beer? GDamned Communists! Time for another state-wide initiative, "The Beer-drinkers' Bill of Rights."

The Constitution of the United States of America overrides the state law and the Constitution gives you the specific right to MAKE your own alcohol. Beer is pretty darned easy to make and not all that expensive either.

11 killed as Hizbullah, Amal seize Beirut neighborhoods
Leaders Hariri, Jumblatt besieged in their homes; Saniora holed up at his office; Peres: Onslaught part of Iran's attempts to take over ME.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

re: #53 Fenway_Nation

*wothwhile

/preview and I go way back

wothwhile: Worthy of at least very limited TV coverage in Cincinnati.

Hokay lizards, interesting thread but I've got to go pay the mortgage. See you later today.

re: #51 Fenway_Nation

I remember my first two years in Korea, I was surprised at how many Koreans would ask me 4 stereotypical questions (after learning I could speak Korean):

1/ Why are American women so beautiful?
2/ Why do American women have such big breasts?
3/ Why are there so many gangsters in America?
and
4/ Why do YOU hate blacks?

It finally dawned on me that they were forming these questions from EXPORTED FILMS...

Lebanese Sports Minister Ahmed Fatfat slammed Hizbullah during an interview with Al Arabiya network.

Fatfat said that "Iran is responsible for what is happening in Lebanon. The subject now is the Iranian attack on Lebanon. They want us to surrender totally without any compensation. Hizbullah has turned from an opposition party into a militia attempting to impose its control. I think Hizbullah believes that the way to Tel Aviv passes through Beirut." (Roee Nahmias)

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

re: #46 zionausi

I was told that if the hero in a film was black then he would have minor character flaws because a black person cant be perfect. i thought it was all bullshit.

Any character in a movie that is presented without character flaws would make for a poor story!

The best/most significant movie made, according to some movie critics, is Citizen Kane. The movie is about exploring the flawed character who happens to be one of the most famous and rich white Americans.

The most watched/loved movie may have been The Wizard of Oz, a story based around examining the flaws of the major characters.

Regarding race relations, one of the most famous movies Hollywood ever made is Showboat (made several times.) The movie is about exposing the character flaws of the (predominantly) white culture and characters.

And the list goes on...

IMO your teacher may have it backwards. Hollywood has the tendancy, probably, in not giving black characters enough flaws to be fully real.

re: #56 galloping granny

Psst, but the bars and hangouts have more atmosphere.

re: #60 Carridine

I remember my first two years in Korea, I was surprised at how many Koreans would ask me 4 stereotypical questions (after learning I could speak Korean):

It finally dawned on me that they were forming these questions from EXPORTED FILMS...

When I started going to Germany in the late 70s and 80s people would ask me where I was from; I'd say "Chicago" and invariably the response I would get was "Ja -- Al Capone (rattattaatttaaatttaaattaaa)." Later, when I'd say "Atlanta" they would respond "Ja -- Vom Winde Verweht" (Gone with the Wind)

Real up-to-date and accurate views of America.

re: #60 Carridine

I remember my first two years in Korea, I was surprised at how many Koreans would ask me 4 stereotypical questions (after learning I could speak Korean):

It finally dawned on me that they were forming these questions from EXPORTED FILMS...

I lived in Germany for several years as an Army wife. At the time, the US military had not had a pay raise since WWII or Korea, so even sergeants' families had to pinch pennies in a big way. Winter mornings I would run around to the corner store and invariably the proprietress would ask where my stockings were. I would explain that I could not afford stockings. We would go back and forth and she would invariably end by laughing and telling me that of course I could own stockings, because all Americans are rich!

Oh, and I love it when Germans try to lecture me on American "militarism," "racism," and "poor human rights record." Just tee it up, Jürgen, tee it up.

re: #28 zionausi

im just looking for some material to argue with because i got nothing on the subject

It all depends on who you ask, and how you define the term.
a leftist will say only whites can be racist. But in my opinion anyone can dislike some one who is different the most racist place in America is in the local jail and I am not talking about the jail guards.

you would not want to be a white boy in jail the black boys might rape you.

re: #52 Lucius Septimius

$1.80 tax on a six-back of beer? GDamned Communists! Time for another state-wide initiative, "The Beer-drinkers' Bill of Rights."

The overall issue in my mind is illegal immigration. The budget costs are exploding cause of the services provided to illegals. California is commiting financial suicide.

re: #64 Lucius Septimius

Read yours, and LMAO!

Very similar, and it underlines a very real difficulty... how must humans inform ourselves of reality today? Especially in light of so many distortions in the media presenting 'reality' to us?

Updinged, LucSep!

re: #64 Lucius Septimius

When William Jefferson is our ambassador to the world he'll ... never mind.

re: #50 Carridine

Beg to agree with you... Will Smith and Spike Lee and others demonstrate something in America NOT found much in nations like Korea and Japan or China or Thailand... RACIAL MINORITY members rising to feature-film stars...

There are some dynamics in Thailand/Korea that mitigate AGAINST such, although otherwise they are pretty fair nations...

Japan is one of the most ethnocentric of nations. Koreans who have been living in Japan for houndreds of years are not considered Japanese even if all the speak is Japanese.

re: #65 galloping granny

Oh, boy!

'All Americans are rich!'

I deal with THAT one a lot, TODAY, in Thailand!

/where tourism brings in millions of tourists WHO SAVE ALL YEAR TO AFFORD TWO WEEKS AT A RESORT THAT THE Thais SERVING THEM CANNOT AFFORD!

I know WHY its here, but doesn't make it any easier to defuse or combat, Granny!

re: #54 Lucius Septimius

They released another 'documentary' about Abu Grahib called Standard Operating Procedure that I'm sure will be as much a box-office flop critical success as No End in Sight or Taxi to The Darkside. The newspaper's movie review guy in the newspaper, unsurprisngly, loved it....complete with this quote that smacks of the derision, contempt and condescension the MSM views the military with.

They are young soldiers, most of them still talking with the twang of their rural homes, and many still bewildered by what happened to them.

I guess a documentary on the people who've made it clear in no uncertain terms they'd like to kill as many Americans as possible is out of the question.

Re: Wolfie Blitzer interviewing Barry the Messiah about Israel

A ringing endorsement no doubt, but Barrack will explain after his election how we must help the Israelis understand what is truly in their interests ( like small children) by chatting with Hamas and setting up a peace initiative that the Iranians will find acceptable.
He has the Carter administration foreign policy advisors on his team after all.

Expect Israel to preempt some things before Barry gets sworn in.

Mornign all. Washington Reagan National Airport (two miles away from me) reports 2.5 inches of rain since midnight. It is still coming down but not that hard anymore.

THE death toll in cyclone-ravaged Burma could hit 500,000 – more than TWICE the total killed by the Boxing Day Tsunami.

Last night’s warning came as it emerged that 17 Britons, including ex-pats and backpackers, were still missing

[Link: www.thesun.co.uk...]

re: #71 yochanan

Got THAT straight, Yo!

I'd listen in on Koreans speaking unguardedly to each other in my presence (because OBVIOUSLY a whitey can't speak OUR language) and the racism was pervasive, virulent and unapologetic...

re: #15 rightside

Morning Lizards!

Rainy morning from rural virginny

I'm near Roanoke...where you?

re: #64 Lucius Septimius

When I think of Chicago, I think golf courses.

re: #74 offendi

Re: Wolfie Blitzer interviewing Barry the Messiah about Israel

A ringing endorsement no doubt, but Barrack will explain after his election how we must help the Israelis understand what is truly in their interests ( like small children) by chatting with Hamas and setting up a peace initiative that the Iranians will find acceptable.
He has the Carter administration foreign policy advisors on his team after all.

Expect Israel to preempt some things before Barry gets sworn in.

If Israel continues to allow Washington & Condi Rice to dictate to them and keeps basing their actions on whether or not the Euros approve of them, they will be gone and erased from the memory of the planet before Barry has been in office a year.

Mornin Everyone! Mornin' Wood!

So, now they are saying that Burma's (can't spell the other name) junta is going to allow aid, but not aid workers. Meh.

The Kingwood teenager's story of decapitating a corpse and using the head to smoke marijuana was so outlandish that at first Houston Police Department senior police officer Jim Adkins did not believe it.

Yet, Kevin Wade Jones Jr., 17, appeared almost indifferent as he relayed the bizarre description of his and two friends' activities at an Humble area graveyard, Adkins said.

"I just doubted it because it's very morbid, and I couldn't see anybody doing something like this," Adkins said Thursday.

Not until police went to the home of another Kingwood 17-year-old, Matthew Richard Gonzalez, did the officer believe the tale.

"He regurgitated in his plate of food when I asked him about it," Adkins said. "So I knew there was some truth to the story."

[Link: www.chron.com...]

anyway, i think im too pro-american for my own good. i cant accept criticism of america. i want to be pro-america, but able to believe that it cant possibly be perfect.

Ah, well... dinner calls, here in the balmy sunset of suburban Bangkok, with calling birds, jasmine and scattered high clouds radiant in the glow of dusk...

/bbiaw

re: #73 Fenway_Nation

I guess a documentary on the people who've made it clear in no uncertain terms they'd like to kill as many Americans as possible is out of the question.

Well, if they want to kill us, it must be because of something we did ...

Of course that sort of thinking is just narcissism pure and simple, the standard mental disorder of the left. It would never occur to those twits that anyone in the world could think different than they do or do anything that they are not the object of -- the world revolves around America and America revolves around them, right?

re: #73 Fenway_Nation

It really is a business opportunity. Ollie North has a new book out that sounds like a good read. Someone has to take such stories and weave them into a movie script and make a mint.

re: #81 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mornin Everyone! Mornin' Wood!

So, now they are saying that Burma's (can't spell the other name) junta is going to allow aid, but not aid workers. Meh.

So they can make a bundle selling the aid? No aid workers to regulate & control the distribution in an equitable way, then no aid. Why should we line the pockets of the dictatorship while the people starve and die anyway?

re: #73 Fenway_Nation

Forgot the linky:

They are young soldiers, most of them still talking with the twang of their rural homes, and many still bewildered by what happened to them.

Turns out he's a syndicated movie review guy....a Jay Sherman for multiple publications across the country

/He can stick ther shermometer where the sun doesn't shine.

re: #81 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hourly TV news here in BKK... what Burma is saying is, "Bring us the goods, we'll steal them at the border and expel ALL who want to get them to the people suffering!'

re: #69 Carridine

People are basically lazy, and whatever ideas they have about the world they absorb from their surroundings. Most, moreover, will cling to their idealized notions of what the world is like in the face of whatever evidence you can cite to the contrary.

re: #83 zionausi

anyway, i think im too pro-american for my own good. i cant accept criticism of america. i want to be pro-america, but able to believe that it cant possibly be perfect.

What you don't have to do is agree with criticism of America. We don't, after all

re: #68 3 wood

The overall issue in my mind is illegal immigration. The budget costs are exploding cause of the services provided to illegals. California is commiting financial suicide.

The elephant in the room. They've been down this path before (I remember when all of my friends in the UofC system were being paid in scrip). When it comes to politics and economics, Californians have a pretty steep learning curve, I'm afraid.

re: #89 Carridine

Hourly TV news here in BKK... what Burma is saying is, "Bring us the goods, we'll steal them at the border and expel ALL who want to get them to the people suffering!'

Somehow I get the feeling that's how it worked w/the relief for that earthquake at Bam, Iran a couple of years ago.

re: #93 Fenway_Nation

Somehow I get the feeling that's how it worked w/the relief for that earthquake at Bam, Iran a couple of years ago.

And that is definitely how it worked at Aceh. There were hundreds of reports of all of the aid being given to the muslims while those who were not muslim were denied entirely.

re: #73 Fenway_Nation

They are young soldiers, most of them still talking with the twang of their rural homes, and many still bewildered by what happened to them.

I bet they are bitter, too.

Let's attack old Ben...the enemy loves that .....

.DHAKA, Bangladesh, May 8 (Compass Direct News) – Muslim villagers in Mymensingh district eager to rid the area of the Christian work of a local pastor have gang-raped his 13-year-old daughter, the girl's father said.

Pastor Motilal Das of United Bethany Church said that at around 3 a.m. on Friday (May 2) the villagers sexually assaulted his daughter, Elina Das, and left her unconscious in front of his house in an attempt to drive him and his Christian ministry out of Laksmipur village in Fulbaria sub-district, 120 kilometers (75 miles) north of the capital.

Local residents have long been angry with him for his ministry and evangelism, he said, and he has received death threats.

[Link: www.compassdirect.org...]

re: #93 Fenway_Nation

Yep. See Granny's comment, above, Fenway.

Load B52's and drop aid all over the fucking place (sorry, I'm pissed). Or, what about a full scale UN invasion (chripe, not U.S.!). Point a gun at the general's head and say, in the best John Coffey voice we can muster,

"We gonna hep some fokes now, you jes be still."

"Ship the aid to us, leave it at the airport or border, and we'll take care of it from there!"

As far as I know..Ben has never cut off anyone's head.

re: #100 storagemanager

As far as I know..Ben has never cut off anyone's head.

There was that lost episode of The Wonder Years.

re: #100 storagemanager

As far as I know..Ben has never cut off anyone's head.

Oh, I'm sure there has been "violence" on both sides.

/Reuters

re: #77 Carridine

Got THAT straight, Yo!

I'd listen in on Koreans speaking unguardedly to each other in my presence (because OBVIOUSLY a whitey can't speak OUR language) and the racism was pervasive, virulent and unapologetic...

so what is there reaction when you speak korean to them ROFLMAO

re: #98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have lost over 23 friends just recently met... adults and children...

That government is a filthy parasite, sucking life from the Burmese people AND working hard to exterminate by genocide most of the minority tribes NOT Burmese...

re: #98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Load B52's and drop aid all over the fucking place

I'm sure a frozen chicken pot pie dropped from 30,000 feet would do some serious damage.

re: #71 yochanan

Japan is one of the most ethnocentric of nations. Koreans who have been living in Japan for houndreds of years are not considered Japanese even if all the speak is Japanese.

Yes, they can be born in Japan, speak on Japanese, pay taxes, etc. and yet they are still listed as Koreans. Japan is the classic xenophobic island culture.

The US does integration very well, IMO, given the size of the task and compared to other nations.

There is still lots of room for improvement, especially I think in areas concerning African Americans who are "succesful". I have heard the argument made by successful blacks that the have to achieve X times of much (in regards to their chosen fields) than a white colleague to reach the point where those around them will finally ignore that they are black and simply see their achievements. In other words, the race-consciousness only becomes color-blindness when an overwhelming amount of success of achieved. I believe McWhorter makes a case similar to this.

Put another way, when our culture looks at a successful black person (say in academics), then we tend to notice them as a successful black person, rather than just a successful person. It is as if there is an expectation (amongst everybody) of lower performance for African-Americans...

The other area of improvement would be in the judicial system... I really don't know what to make of the disparity. Are blacks being targeted because of race? ( I don't believe it is this simple.) Or, rather are certain economic groups more likely to be caught? Or, are prisons filled disproportionately by people from higher population density areas, areas which may also have larger minority populations?

To the student concerned about this topic... remember that the US is the third most populous nation on earth! Only China and India have more people. Both those nations have many minorities. Recommend you compare those two nations to the US and see how minorities come out....

re: #83 zionausi

anyway, i think im too pro-american for my own good. i cant accept criticism of america. i want to be pro-america, but able to believe that it cant possibly be perfect.

IN GENERAL I DON'T THINK WE ARE ALL THAT DIFFERENT THAN OZ.

besides the animal thing and your liking of VEGAMITE

Did you all read this from Col. Bud Day, speaking about McCain's time in Hanoi? [Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

I would post the link but every time I try to post a link the gizmo tells me it is already there somewhere . . . . I guess I'm just banned from posting links.

re: #103 yochanan

Oh, Man!

The reaction is SO VISCERAL, so DEEP, their face twists one way on the right half, and does something weird on the left... as if a Labrador retriever had politely asked the correct way to endorse Double-A bonds to a tax-free corporation...

LMAO, when I got alone... never did it TO HURT...

re: #104 Carridine

I noticed earlier you are in Bangkok. I am sorry for your loss. This tragedy is slowly breaking my heart.

I don't know a soul over there, and I ache for them.

C'mon UN, let's be humanitarian. Walk in, arrest the leader for War Crimes (or something), and go help.

re: #106 freetoken

To the student concerned about this topic... remember that the US is the third most populous nation on earth! Only China and India have more people. Both those nations have many minorities. Recommend you compare those two nations to the US and see how minorities come out....

Excellent advice, though I suspect what you'll get in response is "oh, but those countries are poor, and the hatreds are a product of the dehumanization of the underclass by imperialist capitalists, and we all know that the US keeps them in power with its demand for cheap goods to satisfy the insatiable greed of the American people" or some such rot.

One nice thing about taking the Marxist line -- you always know the answer to any question.

Has there been any explanation yet of why the Burmese rulers didn't warn anyone about the storm or take any precautions?

I'm sure Mayor Nagin will be going over there soon to blame Bush.

re: #112 Lucius Septimius

Dig it.

The Fleet positions itself for war
Back in the early 80's I womdered if someone in DOD had set up Tom Clancy to write pro America thrillers.
Are bloggers like this just citizen journalists with good contacts? If they are tools, whose tools are they?

re: #110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Burmese debacle dominates news TV here... this was the fourth day with 15,000 corpses STILL rotting uncollected in the Burmese-equatorial heat!

I served after the Christmas Tsunami, and even 1,300 corpses in the sun is an abomination to the human nose, FBV... and they're a DEFINITE health hazard...

re: #112 Lucius Septimius

Has there been any explanation yet of why the Burmese rulers didn't warn anyone about the storm or take any precautions?

I'm sure Mayor Nagin will be going over there soon to blame Bush.

But will Rangoon be a chocolate city once again?

re: #83 zionausi

Well, I have to sign out... but not before I leave you and the Lizards with this....

re: #114 Jim in Virginia

The Fleet positions itself for war
Back in the early 80's I womdered if someone in DOD had set up Tom Clancy to write pro America thrillers.
Are bloggers like this just citizen journalists with good contacts? If they are tools, whose tools are they?

Well, I guess you can say two things about that document. It is either

1. A deliberate warning to Iran

or

2. A traitorous disclosure of classified material about military movements to Iran.

Just ask CAIR how Americans are racist to Muslim's
It does not matter that religion is not a race
The real race baiter's are the Sharptons and Jacksons
Being a preacher gives them both street credentials
And as TypicalWhite Male I was born racist according to some.

/I am not a racist(I hate everyone equally)

Here's what I said about Burma...

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Only said better.

re: #115 Carridine

Burmese debacle dominates news TV here... this was the fourth day with 15,000 corpses STILL rotting uncollected in the Burmese-equatorial heat!

I served after the Christmas Tsunami, and even 1,300 corpses in the sun is an abomination to the human nose, FBV... and they're a DEFINITE health hazard...

The Junta doesn't care about the living; why should they care about the dead.

This whole story stinks -- that the whole world hasn't with one voice demanded the ouster of the murderous tyrants who run Burma is a disgrace. They hate us, but seem ok with these killers. The only conclusion one can draw is that mankind is utterly mad.

re: #120 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Here's what I said about Burma...

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Only said better.

As U.N. planes sit idle in Thailand, waiting for permission to enter Burma, the U.N. is doing what it does best: Talk. "We need to encourage the authorities to move further and not bludgeon them over the head," humanitarian chief John Holmes told the BBC.

Frankly, I think belaboring the Junta around the head might be the best thing to do for the Burmese.

re: #121 Lucius Septimius

Foreign Aid: Burma's regime signals that allowing aid to its cyclone-stricken people isn't an obligation. As thousands die, why does the U.N. coddle this junta when the only humane response is to throw it out?

That's not a pipe-dream of ours, but United Nations doctrine. The 2005 "responsibility to protect" civilians resolution, passed in the wake of genocides in Africa, requires the United Nations to intervene when governments cannot or will not protect their citizens, even if it means violating a nation's sovereignty.

re: #123 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's not a pipe-dream of ours, but United Nations doctrine. The 2005 "responsibility to protect" civilians resolution, passed in the wake of genocides in Africa, requires the United Nations to intervene when governments cannot or will not protect their citizens, even if it means violating a nation's sovereignty.

Sounds to me like the use of that little clause sure would set up a pretty nasty precedent. Who defines protect?

re: #124 galloping granny

Sounds to me like the use of that little clause sure would set up a pretty nasty precedent. Who defines protect?

Who defines anything at the UN? The coalition of dictators, a large proportion of whom are Islamists and their friends, who make up the general assembly. Rest assured that "protection" would never be applied to any group which is not Muslim, or at least not Islamist.

re: #124 galloping granny

Sounds to me like the use of that little clause sure would set up a pretty nasty precedent. Who defines protect?

Me. Ask me. Burma defines this. Pretty obvious here.

But you do have a point. Imagine the UN showing up in New Orleans, they'd have some problems.

OSWIECIM (EJP)--- The “Train of Remembrance” commemorating the thousands of children murdered by the Nazis, which travelled around Germany since November 2007, arrived at its final destination, near the former concentration camp of Auschwitz in southern Poland on May 8, the anniversary of the day Winston Churchill announced the end of the war in Europe.

The train, which has been touring Germany since November, features an exhibition of pictures and letters from Holocaust victims.

It is expected to open at the main train station in the town, now known by its Polish name of Oswiecim.

[Link: www.ejpress.org...]

re: #126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Me. Ask me. Burma defines this. Pretty obvious here.

But you do have a point. Imagine the UN showing up in New Orleans, they'd have some problems.

Without the US and NATO, the UN doesn't have the capability of doing much of anything.

re: #112 Lucius Septimius

Has there been any explanation yet of why the Burmese rulers didn't warn anyone about the storm or take any precautions?

Somehow it's Bush's fault.

re: #127 storagemanager

The spelling may be odd, but it sounds pretty much the same in Polish as in German.

re: #113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Good morning Veg.

Hey Jammie, if you are out there, you got mail:)

re: #129 3 wood

Somehow it's Bush's fault.

Always is, somehow.

So now my question to the democrats and their foreign allies: Who ya gonna hate after 2008?

Love the last couple paragraphs of the article...

If the U.N. refuses to recognize what's happening, and fails to use the tools it has created for such disasters, it will be as complicit in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people as Burma's generals.

If that's the case, the U.S. needs to rethink the terms of its membership. Burma's murderous junta shouldn't get away with this.

Hmmm. To bad no one has ever said that here.

re: #25 yochanan

HOW ARE AUSSIE/ABORIGINAL RELATIONS OR AUSSIEMUSLIM RELATIONS.?

Islam is not a race.

re: #134 MandyManners

Howdy Mandy! I dropped the "f" bomb earlier. Sorry, if I infringed on any trademarks. ;)

Foreign Aid: Burma's regime signals that allowing aid to its cyclone-stricken people isn't an obligation. As thousands die, why does the U.N. coddle this junta when the only humane response is to throw it out?

That's not a pipe-dream of ours, but United Nations doctrine. The 2005 "responsibility to protect" civilians resolution, passed in the wake of genocides in Africa, requires the United Nations to intervene when governments cannot or will not protect their citizens, even if it means violating a nation's sovereignty.

In Burma's case, it's appropriate

. [Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

Oh, before I forget, here's my Friday standard tune

Friday, I'm In Love
The Cure

F.I.I.F. LIZARDS!

re: #46 zionausi
All heroes in literature, all the way back to Hercules if not further, have traditionally had character flaws, major or minor. Its part of what makes heroes interesting. Film heroes would be no different, black, white or whatever. Without conflicts, and flaws, characters are generally pretty boring.

re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Howdy Mandy! I dropped the "f" bomb earlier. Sorry, if I infringed on any trademarks. ;)

LOL

Same with an "MF'r" and Babba. :)

And here will be the most clicked-on headline on today's BBC feed: Great tits cope well with warming.

re: #137 3 wood

My song for the day. Grades in; school's out!

re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Howdy Mandy! I dropped the "f" bomb earlier. Sorry, if I infringed on any trademarks. ;)

ROFLMAO! You're very funny this morning.

re: #140 3 wood

LOL

Same with an "MF'r" and Babba. :)

Heck, I used "Gramscian."

When Mandy and Babba aren't here, we just have to muddle along the best we can.

...

.“Well, the new pastor, the young pastor, Reverend Otis Moss, is a wonderful young pastor,” Obama responded. “And as I said, I still very much value the Trinity community.”

But a videotape of a sermon he delivered at Wright’s church shows this “wonderful young pastor” referring to “ghetto prophets” and “thug theology,” calling the late rapper Tupac Shakur a “prophet,” and reciting at length lyrics to Shakur’s song “Thugz Mansion.”

Moss also states in the sermon:

“Jesus has a soft spot for thugs.”
“God is always using thugs to do God’s work.”
“Everyone has a little bit of thug in them.”
Noah was a “thug” who “was drinking much gin and juice and got drunk on the eve of reconstruction.”
Abraham “pimped his own wife.”
Jacob was a “hustler” who “stole his own brother’s birthright.”
Moses was a “thug” and “if he got mad would give you a royal beatdown.”
Sampson was a “thug” and a “player.”
David was a “thug,” a “shot caller,” and a “player,” and a man after God’s own heart.
“Jesus is on the cross being lynched between two thugs. The moment of execution, the moment of murder, Jesus, the son of God, is hanging out with thugs.”

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

re: #125 Lucius Septimius

Who defines anything at the UN? The coalition of dictators, a large proportion of whom are Islamists and their friends, who make up the general assembly. Rest assured that "protection" would never be applied to any group which is not Muslim, or at least not Islamist.

Except Israel and the United States of America.

re: #132 Lucius Septimius

So now my question to the democrats and their foreign allies: Who ya gonna hate after 2008?

Anybody making money but them.

re: #147 3 wood

Anybody making money but them.

Hard to make money sitting in mom's basement doing bong hits and playing "World of Warcraft."

re: #145 storagemanager

...

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

The Gansta-Gospel!

re: #142 Lucius Septimius

My song for the day. Grades in; school's out!

When I was studying at NIU, we would play that on our electric guitars with column amps in the window in the high rise dorm there on finals week. You could hear it all over campus.

Congrats in finishing your term. I still have an internet class to finish, but that is no big deal.

KARACHI, : US Ambassador Anne W. Patterson has said that the depth of anti-Americanism in Pakistan, especially in the middle class, has surprised her because Pakistan’s long-term interests are aligned with “ours and with those of other western countries”.

“I suspect that those who oppose American engagement in Pakistan have a limited understanding of how our partnerships — economic assistance and financial interactions — changed the lives of everyday Pakistanis in real and positive ways,” she said at a meeting with corporate leaders here on Thursday. The meeting was organised by the Management Association of Pakistan.

“It appears that people who come up with the most fanciful conspiracy theories do so in an attempt to distract the public from the true causes of extremism and poverty.”

She warned that the increasingly prosperous middle class would be the first to suffer because extremists were gaining ground. “Extremists have gained ground during the past two years,” she said.

Honey you a woman in a Muslim country..get a clue. [Link: patdollard.com...]

re: #150 3 wood

Of course now I have to write up the Vogon-inspired assessment report on the year.

re: #150 3 wood

I seem to recall that back in the day, REO Speedwagon and Styx were bar-bands around DeKalb.

YANGON, Myanmar (AP) - A U.N. official says the World Food Program is suspending cyclone aid to Myanmar because its government seized supplies flown into the country.
He says the WFP has no choice but to suspend the shipments until the matter is resolved.

WFP spokesman Paul Risley said Friday that all "the food aid and equipment that we managed to get in has been confiscated." The shipment included 38 tons of high-energy biscuits.

Risley said it is not clear why the material was seized.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

re: #131 3 wood

Good morning Veg.

Hey Jammie, if you are out there, you got mail:)

Check yours.

re: #150 3 wood

Hey. Thought you might like this site, you being a big baseball guy...

re: #4 freetoken

Wow, following up an ID thread with a quote by Pascal... is this Charles' version of the "equal time" doctrine?

Can we follow the Pascal thread with a thread about C++?

re: #152 Lucius Septimius

Funny. Call my boss the "Head Vogon". He has no idea to what I am referring. Just love those little shots you can take on the unsuspecting.

re: #153 Lucius Septimius

I seem to recall that back in the day, REO Speedwagon and Styx were bar-bands around DeKalb.

Yeah, Styx played a Japanese Steak House. Where Mr. Roboto was inspired.

/

re: #132 Lucius Septimius

Always is, somehow.

So now my question to the democrats and their foreign allies: Who ya gonna hate after 2008?

People in Dockers who can't dance to the beat and pay down their mortages ahead of schedule.

Italy's foreign ministry said on Friday it was preparing an evacuation plan for its nationals in Lebanon's capital Beirut, where Hizbullah fighters and pro-government gunmen have been battling for three days

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

re: #75 Jim in Virginia

It stopped where I am, about 60 miles south of you.

re: #154 storagemanager

Risley said it is not clear why the material was seized.

Hey Risley, get a freaking clue!

re: #19 zionausi

well some of my teachers say that the "ultra-conservative" american subconscious

Whoops, we're into the bullshit zone already!

cant accept a black hero in a film

Tell that to Will Smith. No, really, please tell that to Will Smith. His movies make gazillions and he still thinks he's oppressed.

and that there are still strained relations between blacks and whites

As opposed to the great relations you've always had with the native Australians?

re: #132 Lucius Septimius

Always is, somehow.

So now my question to the democrats and their foreign allies: Who ya gonna hate after 2008?

President John McCain.
(crosses fingers)

I'm off to work. Stay safe lizards.

re: #30 galloping granny

The US is a pretty big place. I would venture a guess that black-white relations in my little Vermont town, where there is one black family, are pretty different than black-white relations in LA. Or at Trinity Church in Chicago.

I used to enjoy some serious black-white relations, but I'm married now.

re: #78 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fat Bastard!

I live about 30 miles east of Fredericksburg, right near where the Potomac runs between Va and the peoples republic of Md.

GOOD MORNING, LIZARDS! It's a beautiful spring morning here in Michigan....how are all y'all doing?

Are we Babba-less today? Is everything okay?

T.G.I.F...... Heh!

The left loves comparing Republicans to Hitler, so I thought this video was most appropriate.

re: #167 rightside

Sister in Stafford. 50th Birthday party tonight! Make sure you wave at me!

re: #90 Lucius Septimius

People are basically lazy, and whatever ideas they have about the world they absorb from their surroundings. Most, moreover, will cling to their idealized notions of what the world is like in the face of whatever evidence you can cite to the contrary.

Correction, people will cling to their guns or religion, because the Obamessiah says so.

re: #52 Lucius Septimius

$1.80 tax on a six-back of beer? GDamned Communists! Time for another state-wide initiative, "The Beer-drinkers' Bill of Rights."

Notice they're just taxing the beer that commoners drink, not the wine that they drink.

re: #159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Styx played homecoming at my high school when my sister was in school -- she bought one of their albums -- the first one. She still has it somewhere.

I'm hearing weather reports here about some nasty business in the south east.... Are the southern Lizards all safe and sound?

re: #145 storagemanager

...

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

ROTFLMAO...............Basically everything that the Reverend Otis Moss says here is true, however the implied context is way off base.

Oh and good morning lizards..........

re: #173 Lucius Septimius

Pretty freakin' cool.

I have to go rinse out the folds of skin, BRB.

re: #164 JamesTKirk

Tell that to Will Smith. No, really, please tell that to Will Smith. His movies make gazillions and he still thinks he's oppressed.

and that there are still strained relations between blacks and whites

As opposed to the great relations you've always had with the native Australians?

Will Smith thinks he's oppressed? Funny he never came across that way in any of the interviews of his that I heard.

re: #170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sweet! Wish her a Happy Birthday for me!

re: #153 Lucius Septimius

I seem to recall that back in the day, REO Speedwagon and Styx were bar-bands around DeKalb.

Yep. Big band local though was Cheap Trick. I used to see them every Wednesday night at the Red Lion Inn. I still have some guitar picks around from Rick Neilsen, who would through them out into the crowd. You would be sitting there at a table and a guitar pick would plop into your drink.

I also saw Heart and Kansas at the bars there too.

re: #173 Lucius Septimius

Styx played homecoming at my high school when my sister was in school -- she bought one of their albums -- the first one. She still has it somewhere.

When I was in high school, the literature for "prom planning" had a bunch of bands listed as available to play. One of them was Dire Straights. By then, Sultans of Swing was being played constantly on the radio, so I'm fairly sure they were out of the prom business...

re: #106 freetoken

The US does integration very well, IMO, given the size of the task and compared to other nations.

When a British newspaper claimed recently that Americans weren't ready to elect a black President because we're all too ignorant and racist, I had to ask... How many black prime ministers have they had?

re: #169 JammieWearingFool

The left loves comparing Republicans to Hitler, so I thought this video was most appropriate.

That's pretty funny. Actually reminds me of my boss ...

re: #154 storagemanager

"WFP spokesman Paul Risley said Friday that all "the food aid and equipment that we managed to get in has been confiscated." The shipment included 38 tons of high-energy biscuits.
He says the WFP has no choice but to suspend the shipments until the matter is resolved."

What's to resolve? I said it plainly, in cleartext, in Comment #99: 'We'll steal what you deliver to our borders. Period. Bring as much as you want, we'll steal it for ourselves. We're THUGS!'

re: #173 Lucius Septimius

Styx played homecoming at my high school when my sister was in school -- she bought one of their albums -- the first one. She still has it somewhere.

My old bass player (William Rill Jr.) was one of Styx original guitar players. He never got over getting axed from Styx, hated Dennis De Young till the day he died.

re: #153 Lucius Septimius

By the way, Styx played at my junior high school graduation party.

re: #179 3 wood

I saw Cheap Trick at a bar in Tampa in the 90s. Saw Robert Cray and Little Feat (twice) at an open air bar in St. Petersburg called Jannus (Jannis?) Landing.

re: #155 JammieWearingFool

Thanks. Hope Mrs. Jammie is doing well now.

re: #185 3 wood

That's pretty cool. Did they hit on the girls?

re: #156 christheprofessor

Thanks.

Good morning all.

OK, gotta go into the office for a while. Nice day -- I think I'll walk to work.

re: #177 doriangrey

Will Smith thinks he's oppressed? Funny he never came across that way in any of the interviews of his that I heard.

He's made some moonbattish BDS comments that I've seen.

OPEC Turns Its Back
On World Food ProgramEXCLUSIVE: While U.N. pleads for aid to prevent 'silent tsunami' of starvation, rich oil-producing cartel does little to ease crisis — even world's poorest nations give more

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

"Hillary Rodham Clinton, Please Go Now!"
Hillary-hatin' in the style of Dr. Seuss...

re: #186 christheprofessor

I saw Cheap Trick at a bar in Tampa in the 90s. Saw Robert Cray and Little Feat (twice) at an open air bar in St. Petersburg called Jannus (Jannis?) Landing.

I used to split gigs with a band here in San Diego called Mickey Rat..... You might know them better as Ratt....

When I hold my blow dryer (cool air) at a certain spot above my mug of tea, the tea flows clock-wise. When I hold it at another spot, it flows counter-clock-wise.

re: #187 3 wood

Thanks. Hope Mrs. Jammie is doing well now.

She's doing fine. Clean bill of health from all the doctors.

It will be a happy Mother's Day.

Hard to believe it's been nearly four months since the surgery. Those were some anxious times.

I saw Motorhead and Metallica in a bar back home in south Buffalo in '82 I think. Best $7 I ever spent. BTW, never challenge Lemmy to play Donkey Kong Jr. for a drink. He's that good, people.

I mean, it spins around.

I need more tea.

I'm easily fascinated by the mundane.

re: #199 MandyManners

I mean, it spins around.

Are you a little bored this morning Mandy?

TYLER, Texas — A jury again needed just four minutes Thursday to convict an organizer of an East Texas swinger's club where prosecutors say young children were forced to perform sexual acts for an audience.

Shauntel Mayo, 29, faces life in prison after being found guilty on charges that she forced three siblings, ages 7 through 10, to have sex with each other or perform sexual acts for club members who paid to watch.

In March, Mayo's 36-year-old boyfriend, Jamie Pittman, was also found guilty in four minutes. He was sentenced to life in prison after jurors deliberated for just two minutes.

No words
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #201 MandyManners

I'm easily fascinated by the mundane.

No, just the mother of a 7 year old boy.

re: #196 MandyManners

That's Bush's fault too

re: #202 galloping granny

Are you a little bored this morning Mandy?

I reckon.

Will Smith In Trouble Over 9/11 Comments

Will Smith has found himself at the centre of a public row after comparing the 9/11 terrorists to racist American cops.

The Men In Black star sparked outrage among right-wing Americans after speaking candidly to a German newspaper. When asked if the terror attacks had changed him, Smith said: "No, absolutely not... Whether you are wounded in an attack by a racist cop or in a terrorist attack, I'm sorrry, it makes no difference. In the 60s, blacks were continuously the victims of terrorist attacks. It was civil terrorism, but terrorism nonetheless."

This was enough to persuade the group Patriotic Americans Boycotting Anti-American Hollywood to add Smith to its list of "banned" stars. The 36-year-old will find himself in good company - the list already includes Robert Redford and Renee Zellweger. Patriotic Americans founder Jon Alvarez said: "I've always been a huge fan. But now I'm not going to put a dime in Will Smith's pockets."

re: #177 doriangrey

He must be Reverend Wright's new neighbor.

How can hre: #181 JamesTKirk

To be more specific, how many black, non-Anglican PMs?

re: #198 rightside

I saw Motorhead and Metallica in a bar back home in south Buffalo in '82 I think. Best $7 I ever spent. BTW, never challenge Lemmy to play Donkey Kong Jr. for a drink. He's that good, people.

Good morning rightside........

re: #192 JamesTKirk

He's made some moonbattish BDS comments that I've seen.

I don't think he's been quite the same since he got involved with Scientology. Moonbattishness is a sacrament of that *church*, isn't it?

re: #204 galloping granny

No, just the mother of a 7 year old boy.

He's playing hooky today.

re: #203 storagemanager

This is a hopeful, inspiring outcome ... to a serious, demeaning and sickening situation with a GREAT TAKEDOWN!

re: #205 rightside

BIG REVLON IS RIPPING US OFF!

re: #195 doriangrey

Heh. A little heavy for my tastes but I've heard of them...

re: #201 MandyManners

I'm easily fascinated by the mundane.

You need to get out more.

re: #211 MandyManners

He's playing hooky today.

MORE TEA! And a bigger blow dryer!

This is absolutely the best democratic party primary season !

Hillary Clinton has just claimed, to paraphrase, she is the candidate of the whites, as a justification for her nomination !

Got to love those wacky democrats. They love to swift boat themselves.

re: #209 doriangrey

Morning Dorian

re: #215 storagemanager

You need to get out more.

That's what they tell me.

Will Smith has stunned the world by declaring that even Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler was essentially a “good” person.

Smith, a closet Scientologist alongwith his wife, claims that Scientology is so much like Christianity that Christian clergy should use parts of its teachings and not be ashamed, because it is not a cult.

re: #214 christheprofessor

Heh. A little heavy for my tastes but I've heard of them...

lol...lol... Well I did admit that I used to play in a big hair band....

re: #188 Lucius Septimius

That's pretty cool. Did they hit on the girls?

No. they'd been playing together for about 2 months are were busy still trying to get their sets together. I remember they played one tune 3 times in a row to practice it.

re: #216 galloping granny

MORE TEA! And a bigger blow dryer!

If I had any more, you'd have to peel me off the ceiling in about an hour.

re: #217 offendi

This is absolutely the best democratic party primary season !

Hillary Clinton has just claimed, to paraphrase, she is the candidate of the whites, as a justification for her nomination !

Got to love those wacky democrats. They love to swift boat themselves.

That might actually fly you know. A whole lot of non-blacks are upset at the racism coming from Obama & Company.

re: #223 MandyManners

If I had any more, you'd have to peel me off the ceiling in about an hour.

I am sure the kiddo can deal with that :)

re: #198 rightside

I saw Motorhead and Metallica in a bar back home in south Buffalo in '82 I think. Best $7 I ever spent. BTW, never challenge Lemmy to play Donkey Kong Jr. for a drink. He's that good, people.

I think I was at that show. Was in Buffalo from 1981 to 1986. One of my sisters lives up there now.

Since there's so much Styx discussion here, I'll add that I saw them at the Aud in August 1981. Was never much of a fan of theirs, but they were pretty good live, I must say.

re: #222 3 wood

No. they'd been playing together for about 2 months are were busy still trying to get their sets together. I remember they played one tune 3 times in a row to practice it.

Cough cough... Thats not why they weren't hitting on the girls...cough cough...

Anyone seen or heard from Babba?

re: #196 MandyManners

When I hold my blow dryer (cool air) at a certain spot above my mug of tea, the tea flows clock-wise. When I hold it at another spot, it flows counter-clock-wise.

Good morning. See if you can get it to stand still.

re: #220 JamesTKirk

Will Smith has stunned the world by declaring that even Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler was essentially a “good” person.

Smith, a closet Scientologist alongwith his wife, claims that Scientology is so much like Christianity that Christian clergy should use parts of its teachings and not be ashamed, because it is not a cult.

Satan thought defying God was a good thing, too.

re: #228 rightside

Anyone seen or heard from Babba?

Not yet today.

re: #221 doriangrey

lol...lol... Well I did admit that I used to play in a big hair band....

That's cool. I used to have big hair...

re: #225 galloping granny

I am sure the kiddo can deal with that :)

He'd try to join me.

re: #226 JammieWearingFool

I think I was at that show. Was in Buffalo from 1981 to 1986. One of my sisters lives up there now.

Since there's so much Styx discussion here, I'll add that I saw them at the Aud in August 1981. Was never much of a fan of theirs, but they were pretty good live, I must say.

Excellent. Raven played as well. It was Metallica on their "Kill 'em all for one" first ever tour.

The last thing one knows is what to put first.

Golf?

re: #229 sparrowlake

Good morning. See if you can get it to stand still.

It's now a quiet pond.

Nuclear missiles and tanks paraded Friday across Red Square for the first time since the Soviet era but new President Dmitry Medvedev warned other nations against "irresponsible ambitions" that he said could start wars.
Marching bands and 8,000 troops goose-stepped across the square, followed by a huge display of heavy weapons including Topol-M ballistic missiles and T-90 tanks, and a fly-by of warplanes.

Reviewing his first parade as commander in chief, Medvedev warned against "irresponsible ambitions" that he said could spark war across entire continents.

In an apparent attack on US foreign policy and Western backing for Kosovo's independence, Medvedev also criticised "intentions to intrude in the affairs of other states and especially redraw borders."

Alongside the new president was his mentor and now prime minister, Vladimir Putin, standing under bright sunshine in a tribune in front of Lenin's Mausoleum, the Soviet holy of holies that was screened off by a giant hoarding inscribed with May 9, 1945.

The show of strength on the 63rd anniversary of victory against Nazi Germany symbolised Moscow's growing boldness following eight years of rule by Putin, whose hawkish policies have set Russia at loggerheads with Western capitals.

Medvedev, who was inaugurated Wednesday, is a close ally of Putin and had been his aide for much of the last two decades.

Many analysts believe that Medvedev, 42, will be a weak president reliant on the support of Putin, 55, who on Thursday became prime minister.

Everything old is new again. [Link: www.breitbart.com...]

re: #233 MandyManners

He'd try to join me.

Yup, that is just what I meant :) How come he's playing hooky?

re: #197 JammieWearingFool

She's doing fine. Clean bill of health from all the doctors.

Great news.

Talking about music, I remember seeing a fall down drunk Steve Marriot from Humple Pie playing in a dive bar off of Sheridan ave. one night in Chicago, doing this tune.

30 days in the hole.

Marriot is dead now.

re: #238 galloping granny

Yup, that is just what I meant :) How come he's playing hooky?

I have some things to do today that will interest him.

Bad storm in NC..hope real is ok.

Waffles or Muffins.

re: #240 MandyManners

I have some things to do today that will interest him.

Cool! Fixing the car, ripping apart the computer, building missiles in the backyard!

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards}! &#9836 &#9834

Another loverly day filled with sinshine and it's Firday!

Yee-hawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

{rightside} Morning! VA is probably my all time favorite state. Lived in Reston for a few years and spent a lot of time exploring from Great Falls (awesome!), Harper's Ferry, Indian Acres, Shenandoah River tubing and Old Rag Mountain hiking to name just a very few. Skyline Drive is astonishingly gorgeous and touring the Luray Caverns was fascinating and the beaches! Don't get me started.

I really miss VA.

*sigh*

re: #243 galloping granny

Cool! Fixing the car, ripping apart the computer, building missiles in the backyard!

Nah. Laundry. I'm gonna' make him pre-treat.

Some expectations if Obama is elected President :

Israel will attack Iranian nuclear facilities due to concerns about the new Obama administration's commitment to Israel.

China will impose a naval blockade on Taiwan in order to "protect itself against rogue elements who want independence".

North Korea will resume nuclear proliferation efforts.

Iranian agents will attempt to take over Iraq and impose a government in Lebanon.

Russia will export nuclear technology and sell advanced arms to regimes unfriendly to the USA. It will convince eastern european countries to withdraw from participation in the nuclear defense shield.

Hugo Chavez will use his country's oil wealth to try and destabilize pro-American Latin American nations.

Obama will be calling Hillary at 3 a.m. to ask her what to do.

re: #220 JamesTKirk

...Scientology?

re: #244 Miss Trixie

"sinshine"

Behave.

re: #234 rightside

Excellent. Raven played as well. It was Metallica on their "Kill 'em all for one" first ever tour.

Where in Virgina do you live, if you dont mind my asking. I have some old friends from when my dad was in the Navy who live in Roanoke.

re: #244 Miss Trixie

{Miss Trixie} Do you miss the rain too? ;^)

We chose to live here when I transfered to the fleet reserve. I am in a rural area though, didn't want the big city noise, and we're fairly close to Fredericksburg, if we need something major.

You're right though, lots to see and do.

re: #224 galloping granny

Got to love those Clintons. They make Machiavelli look like a choir boy.

re: #250 rightside

{Miss Trixie} Do you miss the rain too? ;^)

We chose to live here when I transfered to the fleet reserve. I am in a rural area though, didn't want the big city noise, and we're fairly close to Fredericksburg, if we need something major.

You're right though, lots to see and do.

The womenz is pretty and the moonshine kicks ass....... Yup, I visited Virgina once...

re: #246 offendi

Some expectations if Obama is elected President :

Israel will attack Iranian nuclear facilities due to concerns about the new Obama administration's commitment to Israel.

China will impose a naval blockade on Taiwan in order to "protect itself against rogue elements who want independence".

North Korea will resume nuclear proliferation efforts.

Iranian agents will attempt to take over Iraq and impose a government in Lebanon.

Russia will export nuclear technology and sell advanced arms to regimes unfriendly to the USA. It will convince eastern european countries to withdraw from participation in the nuclear defense shield.

Hugo Chavez will use his country's oil wealth to try and destabilize pro-American Latin American nations.

Obama will be calling Hillary at 3 a.m. to ask her what to do.

I was with you until the last one...

re: #232 christheprofessor

That's cool. I used to have big hair...

Fixed that for ya ... :P

/teasin' ya

Great new avatar of Lightning, BTW. What a beautiful girl.

re: #249 doriangrey

I'm in a town very few have ever heard of called Dahlgren. About 30 miles east of Fredericksburg, Va.

re: #220 JamesTKirk

Hey Jim! Check out my new avatar! Whaddya think?

re: #251 offendi

Got to love those Clintons. They make Machiavelli look like a choir boy.

I'm kind of leaning toward Dick Morris's theory that Hillary is staying in the race to damage Obama as much as possible, help McCain get elected, and then set herself up to run against a 76 year old McCain in 2012.

re: #237 storagemanager

I gotta check out the T-90.

re: #253 storagemanager

Well, Obama can't call Rev. Wright anymore, can he?

On the other hand, maybe President Michelle will handle it.

re: #254 Miss Trixie

Fixed that for ya ... :P

/teasin' ya

Great new avatar of Lightning, BTW. What a beautiful girl.

I still have some hair left but not like I used to have!

Thanks -- Lightning is happy I'm home (was in the mountains for a couple of days checking on some property I own).

re: #257 3 wood

Exactly those Clintons don't stop. However if Obama does win I expect the 2012 Republican ticket to be :
Clinton/O'Reilly

She would become a republican if it meant becoming President, no doubt.