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Video: Islam Will Conquer Rome and Spain, America Will End

Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:00:44 am PDT

Here’s former Jordanian “minister of religious endowment” Sheik Ali Al-Faqir appearing on Al Aqsa TV May 2, 2008, with an Islamic supremacist rant about taking over the world.

This isn’t happening on some street corner in Amman. It’s being broadcast to millions of people on Arab television. (Courtesy of MEMRI TV.)

Click picture to play video. Requires Windows Media Player; Mac users should install Flip4Mac.

Sheik Ali Al-Faqir: We must declare that Palestine, from the [Jordan] River to the [Mediterranean] Sea, is an Islamic land, and that Spain – Andalusia – is also the land of Islam. Islamic lands that were occupied by the enemies will once again become Islamic. Furthermore, we will reach beyond these countries, which are lost at one point. We proclaim that we will conquer Rome, like Constantinople was conquered once, and as it will be conquered again.

Interviewer: Allah willing.

Sheik Ali Al-Faqir: We will rule the world, as has been said by the Prophet Muhammad.

[...]

We will face a battlefront that is broader and stronger. Its beginnings were in Palestine, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, and in Chechnya. What has begun will be completed. It will not stop.

[...]

The Zionist entity reached completion, and it is beginning to decline, until it will wane and come to its end. Similarly, America has occupied, thundered, and foamed with rage, and proclaimed, like Pharoah, “I am your supreme God,” but it will come to its end, and they have begun to realize that their end is near. We have begun to read in American and European newspapers that “our glory is on the wane, and there is nothing we can do about it.” This morning on Al-Jazeera TV, I saw American scientists and strategic theoreticians, who said that America would soon come to its end. They said it before about the USSR, and, indeed, it has come to its end, and we say now that America and the EU will come to an end, and only the rising force of Islam will prevail.

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1 Ojoe  5/09/08 10:01:58 am reply quote

Bite my shiny metal ass.

2 buzzsawmonkey  5/09/08 10:01:59 am reply quote

"Minister of Endowment?" Is he the one sending me that enlargement spam?

3 mitthrawnurdo  5/09/08 10:02:02 am reply quote

The mask keeps coming off each day.

4 Ben Hur  5/09/08 10:02:34 am reply quote

At this rate, it will.

5 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/09/08 10:02:41 am
6 Ben Hur  5/09/08 10:02:43 am reply quote

BBL.

7 rawmuse  5/09/08 10:02:47 am reply quote

Nothing to see here, look away, look away.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Look, Britney is going to court. Again.
/

8 bosforus  5/09/08 10:02:47 am reply quote

Guess what, pal, America ain't the EU so don't count your chickens before they hatch.

9 Honorary Yooper  5/09/08 10:02:54 am reply quote
They said it before about the USSR, and, indeed, it has come to its end, and we say now that America and the EU will come to an end, and only the rising force of Islam will prevail.

In your dreams, asshole!

10 Ojoe  5/09/08 10:03:25 am reply quote

This stuff is their Mein Kampf, we'd best not ignore it.

11 maddogg  5/09/08 10:03:37 am reply quote
We proclaim that we will conquer Rome, like Constantinople was conquered once, and as it will be conquered again.

Not by you, you fur faced baboon.

12 Sharmuta  5/09/08 10:04:13 am reply quote
We have begun to read in American and European newspapers that “our glory is on the wane, and there is nothing we can do about it.”

There is no glory in islam.

13 tripster  5/09/08 10:04:14 am reply quote

Islam - its whats for breakfast.

Enjoy

14 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/09/08 10:04:54 am
15 EC Marm  5/09/08 10:05:16 am reply quote

When he says this:

We have begun to read in American and European newspapers that “our glory is on the wane, and there is nothing we can do about it.”


I can't disagree that our newspapers print shit like that. Of course, our newspapers deny emboldening those that would enslave us. They'll never see this video either, unfortunately.
{sigh}

16 tripster  5/09/08 10:05:48 am reply quote

re: #11 maddogg

Not by you, you fur faced baboon.

Please don't insult baboons like that, peta might send you a strongly worded letter or something.

17 rawmuse  5/09/08 10:06:24 am reply quote

re: #15 EC Marm

If we could find a way to infect Islam with liberal journalists from Brown or Columbian, it might be a fair fight.

18 Maximu§  5/09/08 10:06:34 am reply quote

we say now that America and the EU will come to an end, and only the rising force of Islam will prevail

Bring it on you little Punk!

These Shiek's who call for Jihad need to be targeted the same we target armed terrorists that murder civilians.

19 buzzsawmonkey  5/09/08 10:07:03 am reply quote

Why, Reverend Wright, how many outfits and disguises you have!

20 coquimbojoe  5/09/08 10:07:49 am reply quote

Over my dead body.

21 itellu3times  5/09/08 10:08:08 am reply quote

I'm gonna say this, President George W. Bush is asleep at the wheel. $126/barrel oil is a political tragedy. The trillions of dollars we're sending to Arabia *is* Islam on the march. In effect, Lebanon has just fallen to it.

*OK, I count Iran as "Arabia", and if they don't like it, the heck with them! And Venezuela, and Alberta, and, and, ....

22 JohnAdams  5/09/08 10:08:09 am reply quote

Guess what, douchebag...We ARE your Supreme God.

Everyone says we're an imperial country. Let's start acting like one.

23 WrathofG-d  5/09/08 10:08:18 am reply quote

"Islam will conquer the world"
"Zionism is over"

Yep sounds just like Islamism to me.

Zionism (ie: the living conflict between the Islam belief that Allah promised that the Arab Desert will be Islamic forever, and revert to Islam if ever taken, and the Jewish/Christian religious belief that G-d gave the Holy Land to the Jews and not anyone else) shall be destroyed so that Islam will replace it.

They aren't only trying to get more land...the Islamic Religous Leaders are trying to "proove" their Allah is greater than "those that made gods of G-d", aka: the Infidels). They are trying to "proove" the "Truth" of the Koran.

READ THE KORAN!

24 DownRightMeanAmerican  5/09/08 10:08:24 am reply quote

Is he trying to say:

Allah you land belongs to us?

Until they invent a bomber with a bomber-vest that can be reused a few times, they aren’t going anywhere but down.

Those f**king one hit wonders.

25 bosforus  5/09/08 10:08:32 am reply quote
We proclaim that we will conquer Rome

Is that an official declaration of war?

26 Ojoe  5/09/08 10:08:34 am reply quote

re: #18 Maximu§

In the studio, on the air live.

27 Kreuzueber Halbmond  5/09/08 10:08:57 am reply quote

He is mistaken.

28 BIGDUKE 6  5/09/08 10:08:59 am reply quote

another ass hat heard from ROPMA

"COME ON ! bring it Cleatis !... You'll walk over but you're limpin' back !"

29 Ojoe  5/09/08 10:09:03 am reply quote

re: #25 bosforus

Yes it is.

30 Sizzlack  5/09/08 10:09:29 am reply quote

Those wacky Islamists sure do dream big. Then again I guess all you have are your dreams after your theocratic government takes away every single form of pleasure known to man and makes you pray 5 times a day to a guy whose name rhymes with a loaf of Jewish bread.

31 Ringo the Gringo  5/09/08 10:09:31 am reply quote

Isn't the lampshade on his head upside-down?

32 Nadnerb  5/09/08 10:09:41 am reply quote

ROPMA!

33 Colonel Panik  5/09/08 10:09:44 am reply quote

7.62mm NATO. Stops Jihad on contact. Apply directly to the forehead.

34 Dustyvet  5/09/08 10:10:29 am reply quote

Sheik Ali Al-Faqir...EAT MY SHORTS!

35 tigger2005  5/09/08 10:10:44 am reply quote

We must, like Michael Moore, understand their rage.

We must, like Barack, sit down and dialogue with them.

36 Raj Against The Machine  5/09/08 10:11:25 am reply quote

...and only the rising force of Islam will prevaiL.

Come on, guys, this is an obvious reference to Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force!

37 gruvin  5/09/08 10:11:56 am reply quote

Your 7th century home made IED's, versus our firepower? Let's get it on, you cornholing idiot!

38 unrealizedviewpoint  5/09/08 10:12:06 am reply quote

I have trouble not thinking about perpetrating great violence against this swine. Why is he alive?

39 JohnAdams  5/09/08 10:12:28 am reply quote

re: #30 Sizzlack

Those wacky Islamists sure do dream big. Then again I guess all you have are your dreams after your theocratic government takes away every single form of pleasure known to man and makes you pray 5 times a day to a guy whose name rhymes with a loaf of Jewish bread.

I'm convinced most Muslims hate Islam more than we do. They're either just too scared or too stupid to do anything about it.
Islam is run by gangsters. We should eradicate their leadership.

40 The Other Les  5/09/08 10:13:57 am reply quote

Part of the problem is that these fraks really don't believe that we as a civilization can really hurt them.

The bombing of Dresden by the British Royal Air Force (RAF) and United States Army Air Force (USAAF) between February 13 and February 15, 1945, 12 weeks before the surrender of the Armed Forces (Wehrmacht) of Nazi Germany, remains one of the most controversial Allied actions of the Second World War. The raids saw 1,300 heavy bombers drop over 3,900 tons of high-explosive bombs and incendiary devices in four raids, destroying 13 square miles (34 km²) of the city, the baroque capital of the German state of Saxony, and causing a firestorm that consumed the city centre.[2] Estimates of civilian casualties vary greatly, but recent publications place the figure between 24,000 and 40,000.[3]

A B-52H has a bomb load of 35 tons. That would require 112 sorties to replicate the destructive effect of the Dresden bombing.

This will of course result in their whining that they are being victimized. Self appointed master are funny that way.

41 Dustyvet  5/09/08 10:14:26 am reply quote

i'M POPEYE THE ISLAMIC SAILORMAN...TOOT...TOOT...NICE HAT EH?

42 wolfie  5/09/08 10:14:52 am reply quote

Oookay.
He says they need to conquer Constantinople again?
Heh. That oughta interest the Turks.

43 Sizzlack  5/09/08 10:14:58 am reply quote

re: #39 JohnAdams

I'd be scared too if every time I left my house I had to worry about running into the secret religious police who would promptly beat me senseless for having too much ankle showing. Or getting blown up at the market trying to buy a goat. Or simply being kidnapped in the middle of the night by people who film themselves cutting my head off to put on YouTube the following morning. ROP!

44 unknowner[deleted]  5/09/08 10:17:02 am
45 ceemack  5/09/08 10:18:24 am reply quote

What a pitiful creature...he doesn't realize his movement is already beginning a long slide into irrelevance.

When the fundamentalist Islamists held sway over parts of Iraq, the ordinary people rose up and said "We don't think so."

His movement has nothing to offer on earth but limitation, oppression, and unhappiness.

And rank-and-file Muslims in key parts of the Muslim world are starting to figure that out.

There's still a long way to go, and more blood will be spilled before it's all over, but this guy and his pals will inevitably lose.

46 TalkinKamel  5/09/08 10:19:16 am reply quote

Just remember this guy the next time somebody tries to tell you that Jordan is a moderate Islamic country, or parades photos of pretty Jordanian Princess Noor past you.

47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/09/08 10:19:28 am reply quote

See last thread for how I would deal with this guy. Public Graphic demonstration of what preaching "Death to America" should result it.

48 Bullskin  5/09/08 10:19:47 am reply quote

But this illiterate thug can not remember either the eight centuries reconquista until they were driven out of Spain, neither the Goya portrait of the upraising against Napoleon's muslim cavalry, May the second, 1808.
If you see the picture, spaniards then had just knives and guts.
Go on, they are now asleep in the socialist dream, but wake them up, I'm looking forward watching it.

49 redheadredstate  5/09/08 10:21:03 am reply quote

There is no way me or many of my fellow Texas females will be put in a burka. I've got a gun, I've got a concealed carry license and I practice my marksmanship every week at the local range. If these asshats come to my part of the USA they're going to be in for a big surprise. The last thing that will go through their minds will be my bullet!

50 CommonCents  5/09/08 10:21:28 am reply quote

No War for Oil!
Why Not!?

I think I could get some traction now with my new bumper sticker idea.

51 Bullskin  5/09/08 10:23:43 am reply quote

re: #49 redheadredstate

That would be your last resort. If you had european politics in charge, everything would be done until you say enough.

52 Ojoe  5/09/08 10:26:07 am reply quote
53 Spiny Norman  5/09/08 10:26:15 am reply quote

re: #40 The Other Les

Part of the problem is that these fraks really don't believe that we as a civilization can really hurt them.

(...)

A B-52H has a bomb load of 35 tons. That would require 112 sorties to replicate the destructive effect of the Dresden bombing.

This will of course result in their whining that they are being victimized. Self appointed master are funny that way.

Sheik Ali Al-Faker is just another Medieval bearded freak preaching to the woefully ignorant who have not the slightest idea of what the West is capable of should his Islamist friends push hard enough.

54 alegrias  5/09/08 10:28:48 am reply quote

re: #25 bosforus

Is that an official declaration of war?

* * *
They're the second most "popular" religion in Italy, so it's a demographic declaration thing.

55 The Other Les  5/09/08 10:28:53 am reply quote

re: #52 Ojoe

About 94 B-52H are in service at the moment.

Have to throw in some B-1B's. Bomb load of 34.5 tons each.

56 Pooncakes, Hero of Zion  5/09/08 10:30:53 am reply quote

The 'New Media' made it into the Washington Times. Specifically, they tapped on Rathergate, but did not mention LGF. Maybe we should correct them?

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

57 Cygnus  5/09/08 10:31:38 am reply quote

re: #25 bosforus

Is that an official declaration of war?

Bring. It. On. You'll be nothing but a smoking grease spot on the sand, you semievolved macaque.

/oh,no; a reference to evolution! Don't kill me!

58 alegrias  5/09/08 10:32:02 am reply quote

Calling all Spanish & Latino speakers, now is the time for all good Reconquistadors & Conquistadors' descendants to come to the aid of their Andalucia.

(Will the partying Saudis please remove their yachts from the marinas to make room for the mighty Armada-lite)? Muchas gracias.

59 tfc3rid  5/09/08 10:33:39 am reply quote

i believe the original statement was 'islam will conquer rom and spain, america will end when obama is elected president (pbuh)'

60 alegrias  5/09/08 10:33:59 am reply quote

re: #42 wolfie

Oookay.
He says they need to conquer Constantinople again?
Heh. That oughta interest the Turks.

* * *
Wolfie, the mullah is no friend of secular turks.

61 nyc redneck  5/09/08 10:35:10 am reply quote

re: #10 Ojoe

This stuff is their Mein Kampf, we'd best not ignore it.

yes, they are constantly ranting abt. their goal of taking over the world w/ their insidious ideology. they mean it. (people ignored hitler until it was too late to stop him from coming to power. he wrote "mein kampf" in l925 and no one took him seriously.) only fools ignore these kinds of power hungry monsters, who show time and time again what they are. islam has such inherent toxicity that it infects , even itself, eventually, where ever it is.

62 bosforus  5/09/08 10:36:15 am reply quote

re: #57 Cygnus

Don't purge me, bro!

63 RememberSekhmet?  5/09/08 10:36:16 am reply quote

Lick me where I crap, Mullah munchkin. Your tough words don't make up for your puny dick, loser-ass ideas, or anything else, you sack of nothing.

64 big L  5/09/08 10:38:31 am reply quote

cruise missle right dn the vent on his toilet.

65 Dad O' Blondes  5/09/08 10:40:32 am reply quote

"...that America would soon come to its end...and we say now that America and the EU will come to an end, and only the rising force of Islam will prevail."

NUTS!

.

66 IslandLibertarian  5/09/08 10:42:09 am reply quote

I thought I was watching "Mars Attacks!"
AKK AKK AKK!

Power to the Correct People!
(They don't want to conquer the world.)

67 grumpy old codger  5/09/08 10:43:33 am reply quote

Memo: To Ali the Faker
Re: Your video

Please read some American history, paying special attention to Captain John Parker at Lexington, on 19 APR 1775. "...if they mean to have a war, let it begin here". Well, punk, ya feeling lucky?

68 Pyrocles  5/09/08 10:44:49 am reply quote

"We have begun to read in American and European newspapers that 'our glory is on the wane, and there is nothing we can do about it'.”

Thank you mainstream media for giving these guys a pep talk with every news broadcast, magazine, and newspaper article...

69 Maine's Michael  5/09/08 10:48:32 am reply quote
They said it before about the USSR, and, indeed, it has come to its end, and we say now that America and the EU will come to an end, and only the rising force of Islam will prevail.

I remember reading, years ago, how, after a Nuclear WW3, only the cockroaches would survive.

70 Bullskin  5/09/08 10:52:19 am reply quote

re: #58 alegrias

There is no hurry. Spaniards are asleep, let them sleep socialist siesta, and let muslims wake them up.

71 Opinionated  5/09/08 10:53:50 am reply quote
We have begun to read in American and European newspapers that “our glory is on the wane, and there is nothing we can do about it.”

They read Pat Buchanan?

72 dmh0667  5/09/08 10:56:05 am reply quote
This morning on Al-Jazeera TV, I saw American scientists and strategic theoreticians, who said that America would soon come to its end. They said it before about the USSR, and, indeed, it has come to its end, and we say now that America and the EU will come to an end, and only the rising force of Islam will prevail.

We have begun to read in American and European newspapers that 'our glory is on the wane, and there is nothing we can do about it'.

2 points I'd like to make to Mr. Al-"Where's my favorite goat?"-F*cker:

1.) Even if you get us (which you won't, not even if you use our technologies), I'd like to see you stop the PRC from mashing your butts into the ground. Gitmo would seem like the Holiday Inn it really is, when you taste Chinese torture-techniques and willingness to nuke your beloved Medina & Mecca to a toasty shade of brown.

2.) If you're believing everything that Western Academics and newspapers are saying about the downfall of the West, you are stupider than anybody could imagine! They've been saying this since, oh, the 1700s? But, please continue to buy those American newspapers, it would help out NYT stock-prices if you did...

73 chinesearithmetic  5/09/08 10:56:29 am reply quote

Islam is the soccer of religions.

74 ishabibble  5/09/08 11:02:22 am reply quote

re: #8 bosforus


The Second Amendment trumps empty rhetoric every time. EU is an unarmed population, so how much individual initiative can ever be seen, whereas here in the U. S., Dearborn, MI is kept within it's confines thanks to the right to keep and bear arms. The Barbarians are approaching the Gates, so what is old Europe to do? Appease?
They have voted, but I am so afraid that it is too little, too late. Guns are necessary to the continuation of Western Culture.

75 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  5/09/08 11:03:59 am reply quote

"religious endowment?" Raise your minaret the islamic way!

76 grumpy old codger  5/09/08 11:06:01 am reply quote

re: #75 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I'd like to raze their minaret.

77 alegrias  5/09/08 11:08:26 am reply quote

re: #70 Bullskin

There is no hurry. Spaniards are asleep, let them sleep socialist siesta, and let muslims wake them up.

* * *
Claro que hay prisa, mucha prisa--hay que ser anti-islamista!

78 Kalak  5/09/08 11:13:08 am reply quote

He should have been banging a shoe on the table, which is even more insulting in that culture.

Bring it, Ali. You'll find out what Admiral Yamamoto knew, about the US. There will be a rifle behind every blade of grass.

79 Bullskin  5/09/08 11:13:22 am reply quote

re: #77 alegrias

They are not aware yet.

80 ChazNOLA  5/09/08 11:20:35 am reply quote

I'll tell you what. I got out of the Marine Corps last fall and am very happy now enjoying the civilian life. But this sort of drivel kind of makes me want to get back in. Whenever this guy's war starts I just hope I'm not too old...

81 Ben F  5/09/08 11:21:27 am reply quote

Islam will rule the world because Muhammad said so.

I can think of quite a few Jewish prophets (many recognized as such in the Qur'an) who decreed that G-d gave Zion to the Jews. The Qur'an expressly quotes Moses (Musa) in this regard.

But somehow this cleric considers Zionism to be racist, colonialist, an offense against G-d, etc.

And no sign of cognitive dissonance, either.

82 alegrias  5/09/08 11:31:14 am reply quote

re: #79 Bullskin

They are not aware yet.

* * *
Jose Maria Aznar, Spain's former Prime Minister, is and was very aware! He helped Pres. Bush, Tony Blair & Manuel Barroso give Saddam the ultimatum in March 2003, at the Azores summit.

83 alegrias  5/09/08 11:32:28 am reply quote

re: #80 ChazNOLA

I'll tell you what. I got out of the Marine Corps last fall and am very happy now enjoying the civilian life. But this sort of drivel kind of makes me want to get back in. Whenever this guy's war starts I just hope I'm not too old...

* * *
Thank you for your service, honored to know you here.

84 haakondahl  5/09/08 11:32:57 am reply quote
We have begun to read in American and European newspapers that “our glory is on the wane, and there is nothing we can do about it.” This morning on Al-Jazeera TV, I saw American scientists and strategic theoreticians, who said that America would soon come to its end.

Thank you Noam Chomsky.
Thank you Ward Churchill.
Thank you Jimmy Carter.
Thank you Jeremiah Wright.
Thank you Jack Murtha.
Thank you Ron Paul.
Thank you Hollywood.
Thank you Democratic Party.
Thank you United Nations.

We have seen them all before:

War was brewing in Europe, and had already exploded in Spain. Chamberlain was unwilling to go down in history as responsible for an inevitably destructive war without doing everything possible to prevent it. Neville Chamberlain, as with many in Europe who had witnessed the horrors of the First World War and its aftermath, was committed to peace at almost any price.

Chamberlain famously met German chancellor Adolf Hitler in Munich 1938 the result of which was an agreement that Britain and Germany would never again go to war. "I believe," he declared on his return to the UK, "it is peace for our time," and later, "This is the second time in our history that there has come back from Germany to Downing Street peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time."

However, the success of 'appeasement' was shortlived, as Hitler occupied Prague the following year.

The subsequent invasion of Poland forced Chamberlain's hand, and he declared war on 3 September, 1939. He soon came under attack from all political sides after the disastrous first months of war when Germany look set for a rapid victory.

Unable to form a national government himself, he resigned in May 1940 after the failure of the British efforts to liberate Norway.

Bowel cancer struck soon after, forcing him to leave Churchill's coalition government. On his death bed he garnered the strength to whisper 'approaching dissolution brings relief .'


And there it finally was: The longing for death of a man who will not fight.

Bowel cancer was the cause of his demise, but his moral cancer had hollowed him out years before, leaving a twisted shadow where once a man had stood. He had consigned his friends at home, his allies abroad, his country itself to the rapacious appetites of the Dictator. A man who will not defend his home, his country, his way of life has nothing to live for:

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice,—is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever-renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other.
--John Stuart Mill, The Contest in America


There can be no "peace with honour" without victory. Win or die.

85 Ben F  5/09/08 11:39:57 am reply quote

B-52s?

B-1s?

A single Arleigh Burke destroyer can dish out more destruction than these jokers can imagine. And there are over 50 of these bastards in active service.

86 Timbo17  5/09/08 11:40:06 am reply quote

Islam can't even rule itself without civil war in Lebanon and to a smaller degree in Palestine. People like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are going to do something stupid one day like detonate a nuke in Israel or America and the response will be the end of Islam. The USSR couldn't destroy us, what makes you think a piss ant group of fanatics with kalashnakov's and perhaps one day Hiroshima sized nukes could counter the nuclear might of NATO. All it takes is the push of a few buttons and Islam is a memory. I certainly do not want to see it come to that but if you continue down this path, it might happen.

87 alegrias  5/09/08 11:43:34 am reply quote

re: #86 Timbo17

* * *
NATO, Schmaeto. Those guys are too busy making lattes & drinking tea with their pinkie fingers up in Afghanistan, can't be bothered to fight the Taliban or interfere with poppy farming.

88 Bullskin  5/09/08 11:56:39 am reply quote

re: #82 alegrias

Yes he is, but the flock of lambs is not yet. Don't worry, muslims want fun and there will be laughs for everyone.

89 ChazNOLA  5/09/08 12:10:19 pm reply quote

re: #83 alegrias

Thanks! Unfortunately I don't think I'll get the chance. I think Muslim plans to take over Europe are going to be quieter and more "non-military."

90 nyc redneck  5/09/08 12:12:09 pm reply quote

re: #84 haakondahl

excellent post.

91 Is it me?  5/09/08 12:21:19 pm reply quote

I saw this on MEMRI and it did nothing for my BP.
They think if they shout their nonsense loud enough and often enough then it will be true. It isn't.
No-one has ever ruled the world, ever. Even the British Empire which spanned about a quarter of the globe didn't come close.
Do they really think they will?
Over 5 billion people don't follow Islam, many are becoming Christians (eg china) and many are starting to leave Islam despite the dangers. I think they are the ones in trouble.

Military adventures are costly both in lives and money. We have to be alert to Russia, and China's underhand encroachments towards the ME and their drilling of oil in the Gulf of Mexico (way too close to Florida) Chasing around after a rag-tag of Jihadists who can go home to the farm occupies too much time and personnel. We have to find a much better way to eliminate far larger numbers of them for far fewer casualties, we are not being efficient enough for our own sakes. Long term we have to exert a change in their societies to try to make them more resistant to the Jihadists call to arms. But too many have a vested interest in Jihad, and power, not just terrorists but also countries like Iran. With the rise of the internet many are able to find out about the West and what we have to offer. It may appeal much more to them than a life of submission and Islam will start to fade. We can hope.

Psychops - to block their propoganda and attempted indoctrination of students and kids (that means sorting the Saudis), putting a halt to their constant attempts to use *human rights* (which they don't practice at home) to intimidate us out of our right to free speech (and that includes to offend - we are not responsible for their hysterical natures, they are) - this in turn also means telling them firmly that the laws of the host country (US OR UK) apply to everyone equally and they have no right to be treated as a special case or to be entitled to more (of anything) then the rest of society. Trying to claim religious rights to what are merely social traditions eg the burqa, which is completely alien to our histories and cultures, even more importantly it poses a threat to our societies - not only in the criminal sense but more because it is a threat to our security (it is a handy way to hide terrorists, and bombs).
We also have to stop our politicians and authorities from sucking up to them. We don't need to be understanding, what we need is to understand them - in the sense of what makes them tick, what drives them, how they exhibit Jihadist/Islamist tendancies etc. They need to learn that all the things they accuse the West (and esp. the US) of are mere projections of their warped illogical thinking. To constantly insult us is a very bad tactic, even tolerant people have their limits and we are reaching ours. Keep going and we will begin to get forceful about our objections to their behaviour.

Or we could just tell them to sit on it - and swivel.
Grrrrr.....

If you want a worse example, click on the MEMRI link on the right and look for the palestinian preaching, it might still be on the front page. Best not to be eating or drinking anything while watching. I landed up yelling at my computer. Vile, and he has no idea of history!

92 Raven1  5/09/08 12:22:47 pm reply quote

They wouldn't even be able to PRODUCE a video if not fo the "infidel" west!

93 Bullskin  5/09/08 12:31:56 pm reply quote

re: #89 ChazNOLA

I mean, it is the first time muslims try this. It may seem it worked in Kosovo, but if you know the people we are talking about, there will be a moment they will say, what?! and that will be the moment muslims will be aware they pressed the wrong key. I'm not a Rasputin, (putin.. putin..), I just recal Goya's portrait.

94 lostlakehiker  5/09/08 12:46:52 pm reply quote

re: #21 itellu3times

I'm gonna say this, President George W. Bush is asleep at the wheel. $126/barrel oil is a political tragedy. The trillions of dollars we're sending to Arabia *is* Islam on the march. In effect, Lebanon has just fallen to it.

*OK, I count Iran as "Arabia", and if they don't like it, the heck with them! And Venezuela, and Alberta, and, and, ....

Umm, $126 a barrel is just a market price. It's not a tragedy if the world has another two billion people at skill levels and with factories modern enough that they can get into the auction and buy some oil. This bids up the price, but a tragedy is when billions of bright, energetic people are shut out of modern life because their economic system strangles their hopes.

That used to be how it was in India and China, for reasons of corruption or raw overbearing power. And now it's changed.

If we want to grow up and adapt to this new reality, we can construct a passel of nuclear power plants like France has, and build plug-in electric cars, and then we won't have any need to buy so much oil. We will be able to shrug off the new and permanently higher price of the stuff.

Oh, and the price will moderate some sooner or later. Market forces will bring forth new supplies, extracted from hard-to-tap reserves at hitherto unheard of expense.

As to who's on the march, sitting on natural resources is fun and all that, but human skills count for the most in the long run. India and China are on the march. Not the guys you're worried about.

95 OLDPUPPYMAX  5/09/08 12:55:45 pm reply quote

The only ones standing in the way of these charming practitioners of the Religion of Peace will be the American people...assuming Barry Hussein hasn't confiscated our guns!

96 ninewhile  5/09/08 1:22:22 pm reply quote

re: #85 Ben F

B-52s?

B-1s?

A single Arleigh Burke destroyer can dish out more destruction than these jokers can imagine. And there are over 50 of these bastards in active service.

Not if there's no will to use them. : \

97 Spiny Norman  5/09/08 1:31:39 pm reply quote

re: #81 Ben F

Islam will rule the world because Muhammad said so.

I can think of quite a few Jewish prophets (many recognized as such in the Qur'an) who decreed that G-d gave Zion to the Jews. The Qur'an expressly quotes Moses (Musa) in this regard.

But somehow this cleric considers Zionism to be racist, colonialist, an offense against G-d, etc.

And no sign of cognitive dissonance, either.

Islam "shields" them from such discomfort...

98 jenv  5/09/08 1:36:20 pm reply quote

re: #86 Timbo17

The USSR couldn't destroy us, what makes you think a piss ant group of fanatics with kalashnakov's and perhaps one day Hiroshima sized nukes could counter the nuclear might of NATO.


They know they can't win militarily, this is all bluster to rally the troops. They'll win by undermining our culture and legal system, as they're doing in Europe.

99 ChazNOLA  5/09/08 2:00:13 pm reply quote

re: #98 jenv

Exactly right.

100 annar  5/09/08 2:03:42 pm reply quote

re: #98 jenv

They know they can't win militarily, this is all bluster to rally the troops. They'll win by undermining our culture and legal system, as they're doing in Europe.

Exactly right. Expect to see someone like this at a national prayer breakfast when BHO gets into office. Then, out of respect, no Senate or House meetings before sunset during Ramadan etc.

101 ChazNOLA  5/09/08 2:28:40 pm reply quote

Thankfully I work out and swim at our Jewish Community Center. I'm sure they'll hold out strong against "burqa hour."

102 TrueKatipunero  5/09/08 3:15:17 pm reply quote
Sheik Ali Al-Faqir: We must declare that Palestine, from the [Jordan] River to the [Mediterranean] Sea, is an Islamic land, and that Spain – Andalusia – is also the land of Islam. Islamic lands that were occupied by the enemies will once again become Islamic. Furthermore, we will reach beyond these countries, which are lost at one point. We proclaim that we will conquer Rome, like Constantinople was conquered once, and as it will be conquered again.

Mr. Sheep F*cker may just be an aberration in the muslim world but I believe his delusion about re-stealing all the lands Islam stole since the 7th century is shared by many of his lot. These barbarians just could not crawl back to their sorry caves, they want the rest of the world to suffer their miserable lives with them. What a death cult!

103 profitsbeard  5/09/08 5:17:41 pm reply quote

Mother Faqir must be proud of her son.

A crazy motherfaqir, himself.

104 azcon  5/09/08 6:17:20 pm reply quote

re: #49 redheadredstate

Unfortunately (the way things are going) it won't happen in a way that you'll be able to defend yourself with a gun, they will slowly take over, mostly non-violently, by using our laws against us, with political correctness (RoP) with calls a racism,(Islamophobia) ....creeping sharia. If we let it happen, one day we'll look around or our ancestors will look around and it will be done...we won't know what hit us.