Obama Adviser Held Talks with Hamas
Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:35:23 pm PDT
Another Obama adviser quietly tossed under the bus for holding talks with Hamas.
Reached for comment, Barack Obama said, “Can’t I just eat my waffle?”
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Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:35:23 pm PDT
Another Obama adviser quietly tossed under the bus for holding talks with Hamas.
Reached for comment, Barack Obama said, “Can’t I just eat my waffle?”
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WriterMom Fri, May 9, 2008 1:37:46pm |
Wow. Where on earth did his advisor's possibly get the sense that this was a good idea?
DUH.
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Ben Hur Fri, May 9, 2008 1:38:27pm |
re: #2 NJDhockeyfan
How many advisers has he had to fire now?
I think that's two, and both hated Israel.
They're fired from his campaign, they could return when he's elected.
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The Other Les Fri, May 9, 2008 1:38:46pm |
Where do they get the idea that Socialism is a good idea?
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winston06 Fri, May 9, 2008 1:39:00pm |
re: #2 NJDhockeyfan
None... (except for that lady Ms. Power who was forced by Hitlery campaign)
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Ben Hur Fri, May 9, 2008 1:39:23pm |
Radical Leftists LOVE religious extremists.
You didn't know that?!?!?!?
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Ben Hur Fri, May 9, 2008 1:39:59pm |
And this is just a distraction from HOPE so I'll BBL.
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Kalak Fri, May 9, 2008 1:40:21pm |
I don't care what sort of dirty laundry need be aired. Barack Obama cannot be allowed to become president, or America will not survive the next few years in one piece. Yes, it is that serious.
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vagabond trader Fri, May 9, 2008 1:40:34pm |
Heh heh, love when them chickens start roosting. Keep 'em coming please!
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The Other Les Fri, May 9, 2008 1:40:42pm |
re: #9 winston06
High Minded Europeans
High Minded Europeans have lots of ideas, like Eugenics...
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Silhouette Fri, May 9, 2008 1:40:45pm |
NEWSFLASH:
Presidential candidate that avoids pledging alligiance to American flag and worships at church that says God D*** America, negociates with terrorists.
No film at eleven.
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vagabond trader Fri, May 9, 2008 1:42:32pm |
btw, Hannity is doing an expose of the Obama's new hip hop pastor. Sunday night 9pm, check local listings.
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lawhawk Fri, May 9, 2008 1:43:03pm |
You want to add the flaming skull to this post? After all, it's yet another sign that Obama and his advisers intend to open negotiations with terrorists. Period. Doesn't matter who they are, what they've done, and how much harm to US interests around the world, his door is open to them.
And once again, it makes you question his character and fitness to govern as President given that he chose to surround himself with people whose first motivation is to talk with terrorists - or are/were terrorists themselves (Bill Ayers, I'm looking at you).
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David Simon Fri, May 9, 2008 1:43:14pm |
Another Obama adviser quietly tossed under the bus
Hopefully, one them is going to go Rosa Parks on him soon.
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snowcrash Fri, May 9, 2008 1:43:14pm |
Yep, diplomacy with terrorists. Expect more if we are stuck with Obama.
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stuiec Fri, May 9, 2008 1:44:00pm |
I am going to LOOOOOOVE the campaign ad in which each image of Obama flip-flopping or hemming and hawing will then be graphically flipped onto the growing stack of "waffles" -- ending with the pouring of the syrup and the announcer: "Here, Senator... try some of these waffles."
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lawhawk Fri, May 9, 2008 1:44:17pm |
Oh, and before I forget, I'll be on Sirius Radio channel 110 from 5:30-6:00 PM EDT discussing some of the issues of the day, including McCain and the Supreme Court and Vito Fossella's mess.
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offendi Fri, May 9, 2008 1:44:52pm |
Barry the Messiah also has the old Carter administration hands on his foreign policy team. The guys that gave us radical Khomeinist Iran.
To misquote Saturday Night Live referencing the Obama candidacy, " Oh no Mr. Barry!"
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Ben Hur Fri, May 9, 2008 1:46:17pm |
This is only temporary.
It is politically expedient.
He needs the Joos 50 million votes.
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VegasRick Fri, May 9, 2008 1:46:23pm |
re: #17 offendi
" Yes, we can !"
Ooops....
I am warming up more and more to obombu's hope and change message. I hope the American people wake up and change their minds about voting for this POS.
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Lizard by the Bay Fri, May 9, 2008 1:46:38pm |
re: #25 lawhawk
Oh, and before I forget, I'll be on Sirius Radio channel 110 from 5:30-6:00 PM EDT discussing some of the issues of the day, including McCain and the Supreme Court and Vito Fossella's mess.
Cool, my commute time! SIRI 110 here I come.
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Truck Monkey Fri, May 9, 2008 1:47:22pm |
re: #25 lawhawk
Oh, and before I forget, I'll be on Sirius Radio channel 110 from 5:30-6:00 PM EDT discussing some of the issues of the day, including McCain and the Supreme Court and Vito Fossella's mess.
Really. I'll stay and listen then.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, May 9, 2008 1:48:21pm |
re: #12 Kalak
I don't care what sort of dirty laundry need be aired. Barack Obama cannot be allowed to become president, or America will not survive the next few years in one piece. Yes, it is that serious.
I agree. Under B. Hussein, Iran will get a nuke. Even Hillary wouldn't let that happen (because it would interfere with her power).
Carter: many Americans held hostage by Iran.
Obama: all America held hostage by a nuclear Iran
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shibumi Fri, May 9, 2008 1:48:59pm |
I suspect all of these "firings" are just a facade to appease Obambi's critics and those gun toting, bitter religious people who are currently the undecided votes he so desperately needs in the general election.
If elected, there is every possibility that these "advisers" will be given prominent appointments and that the liberal/marxist policies they espouse will become President Obambi's policies.
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U.S.S. Nixon Fri, May 9, 2008 1:49:26pm |
By "Eating Waffles" he means exterminate all the Jews.
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Truck Monkey Fri, May 9, 2008 1:49:45pm |
re: #24 stuiec
I am going to LOOOOOOVE the campaign ad in which each image of Obama flip-flopping or hemming and hawing will then be graphically flipped onto the growing stack of "waffles" -- ending with the pouring of the syrup and the announcer: "Here, Senator... try some of these waffles."
McVain won't produce that ad. It will be left up to some state Republican party doing it and it will get wide play because McVain will come down hard on them. I still say McVain wins in a landslide by default. Obammessiah wins at total of 6 states tops. The guy is unelectable.
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nyc redneck Fri, May 9, 2008 1:49:51pm |
obama is surrounded by too many unsavory people. (in fact i'm beginning to sense a pattern of unsavoriness.) i'm serious. where are the decent people in his life. he is certainly proving what a terrible judge of character he is.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, May 9, 2008 1:50:24pm |
re: #29 Ben Hur
This is only temporary.
It is politically expedient.
He needs the Joos 50 million votes.
What about the muslims' 35 trillion votes?
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Occasional Reader Fri, May 9, 2008 1:50:41pm |
"... but I can no more disown Hamas than can I disown my... er... what was the question?"
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shibumi Fri, May 9, 2008 1:51:30pm |
re: #33 Kosh's Shadow
Obamba: all America held hostage by a nuclear Iran
Obamba: all America The West held hostage by a nuclear Iran, Syria, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, etc.
Fixed it for ya.
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VegasRick Fri, May 9, 2008 1:51:41pm |
re: #36 Truck Monkey
McVain won't produce that ad. It will be left up to some state Republican party doing it and it will get wide play because McVain will come down hard on them. I still say McVain wins in a landslide by default. Obammessiah wins at total of 6 states tops. The guy is unelectable.
From your keyboard to God's ears.
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galloping granny Fri, May 9, 2008 1:51:43pm |
re: #37 nyc redneck
obama is surrounded by too many unsavory people. (in fact i'm beginning to sense a pattern of unsavoriness.) i'm serious. where are the decent people in his life. he is certainly proving what a terrible judge of character he is.
You can judge a man pretty well by the company he keeps.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 1:51:45pm |
re: #36 Truck Monkey
McVain won't produce that ad. It will be left up to some state Republican party doing it and it will get wide play because McVain will come down hard on them. I still say McVain wins in a landslide by default. Obammessiah wins at total of 6 states tops. The guy is unelectable.
Hey... How about we Lizards make it? But then we'll have McCain and his righteous fury about dishonorable politics descend upon us...
*shivers*
/NOT!
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Ojoe Fri, May 9, 2008 1:51:45pm |
Except, this issue concerns the Middle East, thus:
Q: "Can't I just eat my Falafel?"
A: Not during the day during ramadan.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, May 9, 2008 1:51:50pm |
When's Barry gonna wash all that roadkill splatter off the bus?
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 1:52:06pm |
re: #39 Occasional Reader
"... but I can no more disown Hamas than can I disown my... er... what was the question?"
Damn it, where's my teleprompter?!
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nyc redneck Fri, May 9, 2008 1:52:13pm |
re: #25 lawhawk
Oh, and before I forget, I'll be on Sirius Radio channel 110 from 5:30-6:00 PM EDT discussing some of the issues of the day, including McCain and the Supreme Court and Vito Fossella's mess.
i think i can get that. i'll try to listen.
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Sharmuta Fri, May 9, 2008 1:52:18pm |
Holding talks with hamas...
Because it worked so well for jhimmi carter.
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snowcrash Fri, May 9, 2008 1:52:31pm |
re: #37 nyc redneck
They all share his political philosophy. It is not politically expedient to reveal all his ideas just yet. *spit*
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Kalak Fri, May 9, 2008 1:53:34pm |
re: #37 nyc redneck
What, you mean:
His father the extreme Marxist who wanted to seize white farmers' farms in Africa like Mugabe has?
His pastor the "get whitey" hate-filled screamer who bellowed about Clinton "riding dirty" at the altar, and that America deserved 9/11?
This adviser?
The other adviser who said that the US should use military force against Israel on behalf of the palis?
The corrupt Daley puppets who made him in the first place, since he's a product of Daley's machine completely?
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yochanan Fri, May 9, 2008 1:53:42pm |
remember obama is a leftist and leftist esp the academic version are mostly anti israel.
surprise surprise
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Ojoe Fri, May 9, 2008 1:54:14pm |
re: #37 nyc redneck
“It is an infallible rule that a prince who is not wise himself cannot be well advised.”
— Niccolo Machiavelli.
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shibumi Fri, May 9, 2008 1:54:26pm |
re: #37 nyc redneck
obama is surrounded by too many unsavory people. (in fact i'm beginning to sense a pattern of unsavoriness.) i'm serious. where are the decent people in his life. he is certainly proving what a terrible judge of character he is.
I work with too many liberal Marxists. They would argue that you are passing judgment on people you don't know, and are projecting your value system on other's which is verboten. In their mind, this is your problem and has nothing to do with Obama.
The end result? Obama's unsavory associations bother conservatives, but not liberals. And I wish I was being sarcastic.
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alegrias Fri, May 9, 2008 1:55:17pm |
McCain called DJhimmy Carter's Hamas talks "disgraceful."
Now Lanny Davis calls CNN talks "worst experience ever."
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May 09, 2008
Categories: CNN
Lanny Davis on CNN primary night: 'Worst experience I ever had on television'
When Clinton supporter Lanny Davis appeared on CNN during primary night, shortly before 10 p.m., there was a peculiar exchange with host Anderson Cooper.
Cooper: Lanny, let me start off with you. We haven't heard from you tonight. Your take on Barack Obama's speech earlier?
Davis: You haven't heard from me tonight. And I'm not sure — I’m not sure you want to hear from me tonight but —
Cooper: We heard from Paul Begala. This is your big chance.
Davis: Well, actually, I don't think we heard very much from Paul Begala. We did hear an awful —
Cooper: All part of the conspiracy against Hillary Clinton, I suppose.
During the Election Night broadcast, there was palpable tension between Davis and CNN reporters and panelists on camera — and apparently, with producers off camera.
Looking back, Davis said by phone this afternoon, he considers it “the worst experience I ever had on television.”
What bothers Davis most is that CNN is the network with which he’s had the longest relationship, where he’s maintained close friendships through the years, and that he's always considered middle-of-the-road in its coverage. But in his opinion, CNN has not treated Hillary Clinton fairly in the ’08 race.
Formerly special counsel to President Bill Clinton, Davis admits wholeheartedly to being a partisan and strongly supports Clinton against Obama.
So what happened on Tuesday night?
» Continue reading Lanny Davis on CNN primary night: 'Worst experience I ever had on television'
By Michael Calderone 03:20 PM (from politico)
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Truck Monkey Fri, May 9, 2008 1:55:38pm |
re: #41 VegasRick
From your keyboard to God's ears.
Sorry about your dad. My condolences to you and yours. I will be absolutely shocked if Obammessiah wins even 6 states.
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Ojoe Fri, May 9, 2008 1:55:50pm |
re: #47 Dianna
He is profoundly unelectable.
The ballot is secret.
Look how Obama did better in caucases than in primary elections.
Plus there is his nasty wife.
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nyc redneck Fri, May 9, 2008 1:57:26pm |
re: #43 galloping granny
You can judge a man pretty well by the company he keeps.
exactly, why should we think he is a saint among the likes of rev wright, rezko, bill ayers, all these fired political workers, and the rest. not likely.
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Neo Con since 9-11 Fri, May 9, 2008 1:57:46pm |
I'm going to make a fortune selling these "Obama threw me under the bus and all I got was this stupid tee shirt" shirts
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Ojoe Fri, May 9, 2008 1:58:32pm |
re: #63 Neo Con since 9-11
Should have tire tracks printed on them.
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Dianna Fri, May 9, 2008 1:59:06pm |
re: #59 Ojoe
I know, and I agree. But I wonder, because my political instincts don't seem to be that good, if we're not assuring each other over things the rest of the electorate doesn't see. Or at least, doesn't want to see.
This is worrisome.
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vagabond trader Fri, May 9, 2008 1:59:17pm |
re: #57 alegrias
I find it delicious justice that the very people who brought us the likes of Media Matters, Moveon, and the Clinton News Network are now being devoured by their own creatures.Only one thing to be done. Vote Republican in November!
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, May 9, 2008 2:00:10pm |
The left never met a terrorist they didn't like.
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David Simon Fri, May 9, 2008 2:00:11pm |
What did Obama know and when did he know it? Even one of his sycophants, Martin Peretz has known about Malley for a long time:
It is true that Malley was on Bill Clinton's staff at Camp David when Ehud Barak had all the juice squeezed out of him to satisfy Yassir Arafat. But he was the only American in attendance to blame the failure of the negotiations on Israel, not least in The New York Review of Books, whose prior experts on the conflict were Noam Chomsky and I.F. Stone, afterwards to be replaced by George Soros, "oich mir a maven" or also an expert, and Henry Siegman. Don't blame yourself if you don't recognize Siegman's name. (Anyway, he hasn't appeared in the NYRB in some time. Maybe he even embarrasses Bob Silvers by now, as Chomsky came to embarrass him.) Malley also showed his colors with his attempt to coin a new nomenclature for the Israeli villages and towns in the West Bank, from "settlements" to "colonies." Why would Obama name Malley to his team? You ask me. I ask him.
[Link: blogs.tnr.com...]
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opnion Fri, May 9, 2008 2:00:13pm |
Oh but you know, that this is just more guilt through association.
I mean come on, if he had to cut ties with all objectionable characters he would have to file for divorce.
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alegrias Fri, May 9, 2008 2:01:48pm |
re: #47 Dianna
Please promise me that Obama really is unelectable. Please?
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It's everyone's job to make this case to those we love, our friends, family, neighbors, etc.
Even Hillary recognizes this now, late in the game. Hamas is not our friend. Carter's example is "disgraceful" and shouldn't be Obama's mentor.
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J.S. Fri, May 9, 2008 2:02:04pm |
re: #21 lawhawk
I think how Obama is selling this -- in addition to letting his advisers openly negotiate with terrorists and then act all astonished and give them a pink card, up until the time he actually wins the election, then they'll be back -- is to explain that "Others around the world hate us, and we must chu-chu-chu-ang, change this...And how best to chu-chu-chu-ange the world so that they love us? it's to talk to them, to talk to what Dubya -- that hater doin' the old style politics -- called 'terrorists'. As we in the Obama camp all know, they're just fine, decent, hard-working folks who given the chance will become our friends and allies. Ja. Now that's how we chu-chu-chu-ange the world."
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Ojoe Fri, May 9, 2008 2:02:35pm |
re: #67 vagabond trader
The great damage already done is to race relations in this country.
I pray some black leaders call a stop to this negativity and say that we should all be simply citizens.
Certainly the losses of the US Civil War were borne to make that possible.
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Neo Con since 9-11 Fri, May 9, 2008 2:02:44pm |
re: #66 song_and_dance_man
Also on the back I'm going to be putting a list of all the people he's tossed under the bus starting with his grand mother. Kind of like concert dates.
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U.S.S. Nixon Fri, May 9, 2008 2:02:49pm |
re: #57 alegrias
McCain called DJhimmy Carter's Hamas talks "disgraceful."
Now Lanny Davis calls CNN talks "worst experience ever."
(from politico)
Lanny is the most loyal guy in politics. He keeps backing Hillary and continued to back Joe Liberman after he was stabbed in the back by the Demoncrats.
I wonder who Obama and his team wouldn't meet. Hitler and Stalin? Sure. Lunch with Osama in his mountain mansion? Why not
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Truck Monkey Fri, May 9, 2008 2:02:57pm |
re: #47 Dianna
Please promise me that Obama really is unelectable. Please?
Barry is unelectable.
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jamgarr Fri, May 9, 2008 2:03:00pm |
re: #60 song_and_dance_man
lol
Or smaller advisers.
I wish I could claim authorship - but it is very funny.
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Occasional Reader Fri, May 9, 2008 2:03:19pm |
Hey, let's be fair, maybe the guy didn't even realize he was talking to Hamas. He thought he was meeting with SAMAH.
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nyc redneck Fri, May 9, 2008 2:03:34pm |
re: #52 Kalak
yes, the fruitcake commie samantha powers. she's the one who wanted u.s. military intervention in israel. and didn't she just think that was a quirky unique plan? the moron.
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Dirk Diggler Fri, May 9, 2008 2:03:39pm |
He's gonna need a bigger bus.
Hell at the rate Obama's throwing people under the bus he should consider trading it in for a tracked vehicle.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, May 9, 2008 2:03:40pm |
re: #38 Ward Cleaver
What about the muslims' 35 trillion votes?
They already know; Hamas gave him their endorsement already. And he's upset at McCain for pointing it out, because the MSM would have ignored it.
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rawmuse Fri, May 9, 2008 2:04:04pm |
Hey, whaddya know Sen. McCain actually used this in a campaign speech.
Senator M, I know you want to be nicey-nice, kissy face, new tone and all that, but it didn't work for Bush, and it won't work for you either.
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Truck Monkey Fri, May 9, 2008 2:04:43pm |
re: #59 Ojoe
He is profoundly unelectable.
The ballot is secret.
Look how Obama did better in caucases than in primary elections.
Plus there is his nasty wife.
I couldn't agree more.
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alegrias Fri, May 9, 2008 2:05:04pm |
re: #67 vagabond trader
I find it delicious justice that the very people who brought us the likes of Media Matters, Moveon, and the Clinton News Network are now being devoured by their own creatures.Only one thing to be done. Vote Republican in November!
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CNN isn't fair! The horror...imagine if word gets out CNN isn't pro-USA...
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VegasRick Fri, May 9, 2008 2:05:17pm |
re: #58 Truck Monkey
Sorry about your dad. My condolences to you and yours. I will be absolutely shocked if Obammessiah wins even 6 states.
Thank you. I hope and pray you are correct.
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Ben Hur Fri, May 9, 2008 2:05:19pm |
If the guy only kept his mouth shut.
I wonder what was promised.
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Occasional Reader Fri, May 9, 2008 2:07:30pm |
re: #81 Dirk Diggler
Hell at the rate Obama's throwing people under the bus he should consider trading it in for a tracked vehicle.
Ixnay. Getting run over by large, tracked vehicles tends to be a touchy subject for moonbats. Remember St. Waffle Pancake.
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Neo Con since 9-11 Fri, May 9, 2008 2:07:54pm |
re: #85 song_and_dance_man
That's too rich.
For a while I was thinking about marketing Obama Rally Smelling Salts.
Might as well get rich before he raises the tax rate to 95%.
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Sharmuta Fri, May 9, 2008 2:08:32pm |
re: #83 rawmuse
Hey, whaddya know Sen. McCain actually used this in a campaign speech.
Senator M, I know you want to be nicey-nice, kissy face, new tone and all that, but it didn't work for Bush, and it won't work for you either.
It's the definition of insanity- trying the same thing over and over expecting a different result.
And on that note- it's no different than talking to hamas, either.
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Darwin Akbar Fri, May 9, 2008 2:09:15pm |
Hmmmm.....Brzezinski (Israel-hating Sec. of State under Israel-hating and anti-Semite Jimmy Carter), Samatha Power (known Israel hater), the Rev. Wright (anti-Semite and Israel hater) and Robert Malley (known Israel hater)......
"The fact that I have spent my adult life surrounded by anti-Semites and Israel haters is merely a distraction from my message of change in address of all of the Jews in Israel and my hope that the Arabs will love me."
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jamgarr Fri, May 9, 2008 2:10:08pm |
re: #90 song_and_dance_man
Oh well, you said it first on this thread and that is enough.
And anyway, I got it from a very good friend who said it was OK to use it - so it's not really plagerism.
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brainwizard73 Fri, May 9, 2008 2:10:19pm |
re: #88 Ben Hur
If the guy only kept his mouth shut.
I wonder what was promised.
Given the Obama campaign's past precedent with suggesting that NAFTA would get torn up only to then say "no, we really didn't mean that...it's only for the stupid natives south of the border", this one is a reverse.
Obama publicly says he condemns Hamas and secretly says "no, we really didn't mean that...it's only for the stupid Americans that might vote for the guy that would nuke you in a second if he thought it would make America safer".
Obama...the haze...
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nyc redneck Fri, May 9, 2008 2:10:51pm |
re: #55 shibumi
i have friends like that too. tho, i will say afew of my lib friends are bothered by rev wright. i was happy to hear that.
some libs, however, are so truly fixated on osama now that even if he was caught throwing his typical white granny down the stairs they'd say, 'she had it coming'. these loons are not enough to get him elected, tho.
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shibumi Fri, May 9, 2008 2:10:57pm |
re: #59 Ojoe
He is profoundly unelectable.
The ballot is secret.
Look how Obama did better in caucases than in primary elections.
Plus there is his nasty wife.
I know a number of white male Democrats that have privately told me they will not vote for Obambi. I also know a number of individuals who aren't voting.
McCain: The lesser of two evils.
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alegrias Fri, May 9, 2008 2:11:16pm |
Hey, Hamas supports 100 years of war--that's totally wrong.
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Ben Hur Fri, May 9, 2008 2:11:43pm |
Apparently, SAMAH can help Michelle's children.
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Ben Hur Fri, May 9, 2008 2:12:24pm |
Who clings to their guns and religion more than SAMAH and hizbALLAH?
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J.S. Fri, May 9, 2008 2:12:42pm |
re: #47 Dianna
Please promise me that Obama really is unelectable. Please?
Heh. I don't know... Certainly the MSM is doing everything possible to make sure Hussein gets elected. And given the MSM's love affair, it's nothing but non-stop swooning and praises. I just don't see that changing any time soon.
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mj Fri, May 9, 2008 2:12:43pm |
"Mr Malley, who is a respected commentator on Middle Eastern issues and was part of President Clinton's negotiating team at the Camp David talks, has come under attack in recent months from right-wing bloggers.Today, asked if Obama campaign was aware of his contact with Hamas, he replied: "They know who I am but I don't think they vet everyone in a group of informal advisers."
Malley a respected commentator? More like a shill for Jew-haters of every stripe. I guess he's repected by that other Jew-hating enterprise- The New York Times.
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brainwizard73 Fri, May 9, 2008 2:12:46pm |
re: #101 shibumi
I have a father in law that is a normally reliable democratic voter, but he will go McCain this fall. Reason? McCain is a vet that isn't Bush, and better yet, isn't a left wing loony toon.
If Hill were the nominee...he might go back...
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alegrias Fri, May 9, 2008 2:12:51pm |
Hamas teaches children to fight 100 years' wars. That's so wrong.
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Darwin Akbar Fri, May 9, 2008 2:13:19pm |
Regarding Lanny Davis, he had a wake-up call not too long ago when he dared make a comment that appeared to support the war (he might have dared to speak favorably about Joe Lieberman) and was the recipient of hundreds of virulent e-mails from the Tolerant Progressives calling him a Nazi, Re-thuglican....the usual nutroots love.
I think he wrote an op-ed for the WSJ about it (....will look for it...)
One can only imagine what they're saying about him now.
Welcome to our world, Lanny.
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alegrias Fri, May 9, 2008 2:13:36pm |
re: #106 Ben Hur
Who clings to their guns and religion more than SAMAH and hizbALLAH?
* * *
Hamas is really bitter. That is so wrong. Hamas needs change.
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brainwizard73 Fri, May 9, 2008 2:13:59pm |
re: #106 Ben Hur
Who clings to their guns and religion more than SAMAH and hizbALLAH?
Well, at least they don't also cling to hatred of people from outside their countries and people that don't look like them...oh...uh...Barack, a little help, please?
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opnion Fri, May 9, 2008 2:14:24pm |
When I hear Obama or his wife speak it is without fail, downbeat.
Things are so bad & only he can restore hope with some vague promise of change.
It sounds like Michelle is trying to convince us that we are all just poor sharecroppers being held down by the man.
It is always doom & gloom.
Just once I would like someone to ask Michelle, "Mrs.Obama if things are that bleak & America is so mean, why do people continue to stream across our borders?'
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nyc redneck Fri, May 9, 2008 2:15:02pm |
re: #92 snowcrash
Oooh...I forgot that piece of work.
i tried to.
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alegrias Fri, May 9, 2008 2:15:42pm |
re: #115 opnion
When I hear Obama or his wife speak it is without fail, downbeat.
Things are so bad & only he can restore hope with some vague promise of change.
It sounds like Michelle is trying to convince us that we are all just poor sharecroppers being held down by the man.
It is always doom & gloom.
Just once I would like someone to ask Michelle, "Mrs.Obama if things are that bleak & America is so mean, why do people continue to stream across our borders?'
* * *
It's the ARUGULA, stupid!
(It's the ECONOMY, stupid! was Clinton's winning slogan)
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J.S. Fri, May 9, 2008 2:15:45pm |
re: #86 alegrias
Glenn Beck the other day had on some guest -- about how the United States is in rapid decline, and how "all the rest" is on a roll and will overtake the U.S. And this bozo -- who will be his employer? Well, of course, it will be the Caliphate Now News -- yeah, CNN intends to give this hustler his own television program (that's Fareed Zakaria) so he can denounce the West and promote the Rest each and every week.
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brainwizard73 Fri, May 9, 2008 2:15:54pm |
re: #115 opnion
Wouldn't it be sweet to see a t-shirt at the RNC convention in Minnesota that had a picture of Michelle Obama with her mouth agape and an angry look that simply said underneath...
"One man's burden...why should we bail him out?"
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medaura18586 Fri, May 9, 2008 2:16:44pm |
re: #47 Dianna
Please promise me that Obama really is unelectable. Please?
He's as inflated as Kerry was... it might all turn out to be gas. I don't think he's electable, but it depends on how viable a campaign John McCain will run. McCain has all the cards, but he needs to play them right.
Good chance we'll have republicans in the White House for another 4 years.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, May 9, 2008 2:17:05pm |
re: #115 opnion
When I hear Obama or his wife speak it is without fail, downbeat.
Things are so bad & only he can restore hope with some vague promise of change.
It sounds like Michelle is trying to convince us that we are all just poor sharecroppers being held down by the man.
It is always doom & gloom.
Just once I would like someone to ask Michelle, "Mrs.Obama if things are that bleak & America is so mean, why do people continue to stream across our borders?'
Why, to vote for Obama, of course!
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alegrias Fri, May 9, 2008 2:17:22pm |
re: #119 J.S.
* * *
Fareed Zakaria seemed so normal many moons ago...Bush Derangement is such a tragic disease.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, May 9, 2008 2:17:27pm |
re: #113 alegrias
* * *
Hamas is really bitter. That is so wrong. Hamas needs change.
Hamas should be changed into tiny terrorist bits by a few tons of high explosive.
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opnion Fri, May 9, 2008 2:17:44pm |
re: #118 alegrias
* * *
It's the ARUGULA, stupid!
(It's the ECONOMY, stupid! was Clinton's winning slogan)
Well that answers it.I am just floored that people flock to all of this negativity.
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Sharmuta Fri, May 9, 2008 2:19:02pm |
re: #106 Ben Hur
Who clings to their guns and religion more than SAMAH and hizbALLAH?
But that's okay, because they're not typical white people.
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opnion Fri, May 9, 2008 2:19:15pm |
re: #120 brainwizard73
Wouldn't it be sweet to see a t-shirt at the RNC convention in Minnesota that had a picture of Michelle Obama with her mouth agape and an angry look that simply said underneath...
"One man's burden...why should we bail him out?"
Damn thats good!
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 2:19:40pm |
The road to Obama's nomination is paved with grandmas, pastors and advisors.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, May 9, 2008 2:19:51pm |
Which side will Reuters choose to propagandize?
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Truck Monkey Fri, May 9, 2008 2:19:56pm |
re: #121 medaura18586
He's as inflated as Kerry was... it might all turn out to be gas. I don't think he's electable, but it depends on how viable a campaign John McCain will run. McCain has all the cards, but he needs to play them right.
Good chance we'll have republicans in the White House for another 4 years.
I wonder who McVain will pick as his running mate. It would work out real well if he picked someone like a mid to large state gov. that has some executive experience. Mitt Romney or Tim Pawlenty for instance. I don't see Americans electing a 76 year old dude for President unless his name is Ronald Reagan.
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rawmuse Fri, May 9, 2008 2:20:12pm |
re: #121 medaura18586
He's as inflated as Kerry was... it might all turn out to be gas. I don't think he's electable, but it depends on how viable a campaign John McCain will run. McCain has all the cards, but he needs to play them right.
Good chance we'll have republicans in the White House for another 4 years.
That is small comfort. Kerry almost won. McCain better put on his war face. We have not seen it yet. Obama is swimming in cash, McCain, hardly. I think it is a toss up.
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brainwizard73 Fri, May 9, 2008 2:20:49pm |
re: #128 jcm
The road to Obama's nomination is paved with grandmas, pastors and advisors.
But at least the bus runs on biodiesel, right?
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, May 9, 2008 2:20:54pm |
re: #128 jcm
The road to Obama's nomination is paved with grandmas, pastors and advisors.
I'm afraid the road after his election (G-d forbid) will be paved with Jews.
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alegrias Fri, May 9, 2008 2:21:30pm |
Hillary Ahead in West Virginia...by 43 Points
the other killer tidbit: "45% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Barack Obama in the primary."
from [Link: www.weeklystandard.com...] latest entry
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 2:22:23pm |
re: #130 Truck Monkey
I wonder who McVain will pick as his running mate. It would work out real well if he picked someone like a mid to large state gov. that has some executive experience. Mitt Romney or Tim Pawlenty for instance. I don't see Americans electing a 76 year old dude for President unless his name is Ronald Reagan.
Yeah, and Reagan was still only 69 when he was elected.
/only...
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BulgarWheat Fri, May 9, 2008 2:22:39pm |
Hmm? This ought to shore up the conservative base.
[Link: www.examiner.com...]
Guess that La Raza thing wasn't moonbat enough.
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 2:22:42pm |
re: #132 brainwizard73
But at least the bus runs on biodiesel, right?
Might be a problem....
Caution flag raised in race to embrace biofuels
Local officials question impact on environment
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medaura18586 Fri, May 9, 2008 2:22:47pm |
re: #130 Truck Monkey
I wonder who McVain will pick as his running mate. It would work out real well if he picked someone like a mid to large state gov. that has some executive experience. Mitt Romney or Tim Pawlenty for instance. I don't see Americans electing a 76 year old dude for President unless his name is Ronald Reagan.
You know how he could guarantee victory? It's sinister, but put Hillary on the vp slot and it's all said and done!
He may settle for Rice for real though.
I've never been a fan of settling for the lesser of 3 evils, that whole mentality, but man, when you see who those evils are, I'd get in line to vote McCain. If I had to bet money, I'd bet on him...
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jamgarr Fri, May 9, 2008 2:22:54pm |
re: #134 alegrias
Hillary Ahead in West Virginia...by 43 Points
Just another lightning bolt in the perfect storm that is the Democrat primary!
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Dianna Fri, May 9, 2008 2:23:07pm |
Shave the Whales! Nuke the gay baby harp seals! Recycle old growth forests!
/
Excuse my outburst. I'm summarizing one-too-many proposals for environmental this and that.
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vagabond trader Fri, May 9, 2008 2:23:12pm |
re: #74 Ojoe
Personally, I do not own the racist tag and institutional racism is dead in the US. If black citizens follow hate filled grievance peddlars ,the choice and consequences are theirs.
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Truck Monkey Fri, May 9, 2008 2:23:36pm |
re: #131 rawmuse
That is small comfort. Kerry almost won. McCain better put on his war face. We have not seen it yet. Obama is swimming in cash, McCain, hardly. I think it is a toss up.
Jon Kary looks like a statesman compared to the Obammessiah. Believe me. Americans will not elect a Black Panther to the White House no matter what the polls say. Money or not. Barry is toast.
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 2:23:59pm |
re: #133 Kosh's Shadow
I'm afraid the road after his election (G-d forbid) will be paved with Jews.
Lie down in rows now and avoid the rush...
/ / / /
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alegrias Fri, May 9, 2008 2:24:00pm |
re: #136 BulgarWheat
Hmm? This ought to shore up the conservative base.
[Link: www.examiner.com...]
Guess that La Raza thing wasn't moonbat enough.
* * *
McCain needs the eco-voters as well. Some people only care about "the environment" but we need their votes anyway.
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nyc redneck Fri, May 9, 2008 2:24:33pm |
re: #115 opnion
When I hear Obama or his wife speak it is without fail, downbeat.
Things are so bad & only he can restore hope with some vague promise of change.
It sounds like Michelle is trying to convince us that we are all just poor sharecroppers being held down by the man.
It is always doom & gloom.
Just once I would like someone to ask Michelle, "Mrs.Obama if things are that bleak & America is so mean, why do people continue to stream across our borders?'
well that's the tear down america thing that commies do. make it appear so bleak and desperate that we long for deliverance. and guess what, there is michelle w/ the answer to our problems, her husband mr. soul healer himself.
she doesn't do a very good job of pushing this tho. she's a bad actor and no appeal as a person. all the complaining and moaning and groaning and belly aching is so phony. she doesn't even believe this sh*t. i don't think her scam is working. those poor single working mothers in so. car.(?) rolled their eyes when michelle bitched abt. how hard it was for her to make it on a million dollars a yr. she felt their pain.
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 2:25:01pm |
re: #141 Dianna
Shave the Whales! Nuke the gay baby harp seals! Recycle old growth forests!
/
Excuse my outburst. I'm summarizing one-too-many proposals for environmental this and that.
NUKE ALL THE UBORN GAY WHALES FOR JESUS!
*complete coverage*
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medaura18586 Fri, May 9, 2008 2:25:54pm |
re: #128 jcm
That is brilliantly funny! (I also liked your dragon-land monologue in another thread)
re: #131 rawmuse
That is small comfort. Kerry almost won. McCain better put on his war face. We have not seen it yet. Obama is swimming in cash, McCain, hardly. I think it is a toss up.
Almost doesn't count. Heck, Gore almost won. There's no way Kerry would have won, no matter how close he thinks he got. Too out of touch with America (and consider how radiantly Bush was hated at the time already!). I think Obama is all smoke and mirrors too.
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bosforus Fri, May 9, 2008 2:25:57pm |
re: #105 Ojoe
Hillary might start a splinter party ?
Would make since, she's about as annoying and persistent as one.
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David Simon Fri, May 9, 2008 2:26:19pm |
re: #134 alegrias
From your link:
I'm just curious how Team Obama and Andrew Sullivan are going to spin this beyond calling the good people of West Virginia a bunch of racists
I'm curious how it's racist to not vote for a candidate just because he's black, and not racist to vote for a candidate just because he's black.
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Truck Monkey Fri, May 9, 2008 2:27:01pm |
re: #135 Fat Jolly Penguin
Yeah, and Reagan was still only 69 when he was elected.
/only...
I'm saying that McVain is a one termer. Will he step aside after that term? Does it pave the way for a 64 year old Hildabeast to be prez? Interesting times indeed. What has happened to BOTH parties? There is not a leader amongst them.
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Nevergiveup Fri, May 9, 2008 2:27:45pm |
Some one has to make a list of all present and past ( thrown under the bus ) advisers and close buddies who are fervently anti-Israel. It has to be read each Sabbath in all Jewish Synagogues in this country until my Jewish brethren get the big picture.
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Dahveed Fri, May 9, 2008 2:27:54pm |
The Republican Jewish Coalition is happy that only (their word) 61% of the Jewish vote is going to Obama.
I think it's appalling that 61% of Jews would even consider Obama an option for their president. (I think it's appalling that anyone is considering Obama as their president, but that's another matter.) Why Jews in America still insist on being so damned liberal is beyond me.
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The Other Les Fri, May 9, 2008 2:28:04pm |
re: #147 jamgarr
YIKES! Did you really want to say that?
Well if he said "call a gardening tool a gardening tool" the 'bats would still scream racist.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, May 9, 2008 2:28:17pm |
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maddogg Fri, May 9, 2008 2:28:32pm |
I have a personal answer to Obama's "hope and change".
No and thanks.
People who fall in love with slogans have the intellectual capacity of a paramecium.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, May 9, 2008 2:28:33pm |
re: #145 jcm
Lie down in rows now and avoid the rush...
/ / / /
I'm not lying down. He'll have to run the bus over me while I'm standing and saying up.
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Truck Monkey Fri, May 9, 2008 2:28:36pm |
re: #138 medaura18586
You know how he could guarantee victory? It's sinister, but put Hillary on the vp slot and it's all said and done!
He may settle for Rice for real though.
I've never been a fan of settling for the lesser of 3 evils, that whole mentality, but man, when you see who those evils are, I'd get in line to vote McCain. If I had to bet money, I'd bet on him...
If he puts her thighness on the ticket he will have to stay away from Ft. Marcy Park. She might let him stay in the Lincoln Bedroom.
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Occasional Reader Fri, May 9, 2008 2:29:03pm |
re: #161 The Other Les
Well if he said "call a gardening tool a gardening tool" the 'bats would still scream racist.
Irrelevant.
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jamgarr Fri, May 9, 2008 2:29:06pm |
re: #161 The Other Les
Well if he said "call a gardening tool a gardening tool" the 'bats would still scream racist.
And, IMHO, rightfully so. There are some things that just shouldn't be said.
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 2:29:45pm |
re: #151 medaura18586
That is brilliantly funny! (I also liked your dragon-land monologue in another thread)
Thanks, just trying to do my bit. I like too many of the Lizards on either side of the argument, and hate seeing a good debate turn into rock throwing.
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Alouette Fri, May 9, 2008 2:30:06pm |
re: #159 Nevergiveup
Some one has to make a list of all present and past ( thrown under the bus ) advisers and close buddies who are fervently anti-Israel. It has to be read each Sabbath in all Jewish Synagogues in this country until my Jewish brethren get the big picture.
Jews who are observant enough to attend synagogue at least every Sabbath are more likely to vote Republican. It's the ones who DON'T attend services that are for Obama.
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 2:30:42pm |
re: #164 Kosh's Shadow
I'm not lying down. He'll have to run the bus over me while I'm standing and saying up.
Amen to that.
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medaura18586 Fri, May 9, 2008 2:30:51pm |
re: #158 Truck Monkey
I'm saying that McVain is a one termer. Will he step aside after that term? Does it pave the way for a 64 year old Hildabeast to be prez? Interesting times indeed. What has happened to BOTH parties? There is not a leader amongst them.
He will certainly have to step aside, and that's a good thing: I sure don't wanna lock him in for 8 years.
There will be no such thing as a Hillary comeback though. I can guarantee you that. This is the only chance she's got and there won't be another. She knows it which is why she's clinging on to the race for dear life even at the cost of damaging the Clinton brand. It's do or die, and she's wanted this throughout her entire life. She won't be back in 4 years, no worries... which I can't say the same for Obama.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, May 9, 2008 2:31:00pm |
re: #160 Dahveed
The Republican Jewish Coalition is happy that only (their word) 61% of the Jewish vote is going to Obama.
I think it's appalling that 61% of Jews would even consider Obama an option for their president. (I think it's appalling that anyone is considering Obama as their president, but that's another matter.) Why Jews in America still insist on being so damned liberal is beyond me.
They'll probably think the cattle cars are taking them to a comfortable camp as well.
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 2:32:51pm |
re: #171 Alouette
Jews who are observant enough to attend synagogue at least every Sabbath are more likely to vote Republican. It's the ones who DON'T attend services that are for Obama.
What I saw on a Prius, my jaw dropped.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, May 9, 2008 2:33:15pm |
re: #134 alegrias
Hillary Ahead in West Virginia...by 43 Points
the other killer tidbit: "45% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Barack Obama in the primary."
from [Link: www.weeklystandard.com...] latest entry
Sounds like Robert K.K.K. Byrd Democrats.
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Red Dawn Fri, May 9, 2008 2:33:42pm |
re: #10 Ben Hur
Radical Leftists LOVE religious extremists who hate Israel.
You didn't know that?!?!?!?
Fixed. :)
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jamgarr Fri, May 9, 2008 2:34:12pm |
re: #176 song_and_dance_man
Perhaps we should ask Doc first what he meant by it.
Maybe you missed it - I did.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, May 9, 2008 2:34:14pm |
re: #177 jcm
What I saw on a Prius, my jaw dropped.
At least the product code makes sense:
Product Code: BS26748
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Ward Cleaver Fri, May 9, 2008 2:35:14pm |
re: #177 jcm
What I saw on a Prius, my jaw dropped.
What's that say anyway? Neuterei Karta for Obama?
/jews for jihad
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Nevergiveup Fri, May 9, 2008 2:35:23pm |
re: #171 Alouette
Jews who are observant enough to attend synagogue at least every Sabbath are more likely to vote Republican. It's the ones who DON'T attend services that are for Obama.
Good point, but even reform Jews go to a Bar Mitzvah or 2 every now and then, and of course there always the High Holidays this year.
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 2:35:58pm |
re: #182 Ward Cleaver
LOL!
Isn't the code for EVERYTHING B. Hussein sells.
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Killgore Trout Fri, May 9, 2008 2:36:40pm |
Attacks in the Chouf, and a bit of humor
Hezbollah wanted a confrontation in Beirut. They didn't get it, and are now a bit embarrassed, so they are now attacking the Chouf. The Druze community fought back, and four Hezbollah fighters were killed.According the LBC news, a large portrait of Syrian President Bashar Assad hangs on the attacked Future TV building.
wow.
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medaura18586 Fri, May 9, 2008 2:36:55pm |
Charles, that weird thing is happening again (first time in a long while):
My website is set to the last link I submitted in the spinoffs. Have you found out what causes it?
Again, I'm on Vista, FF.
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onepistoffyid Fri, May 9, 2008 2:36:59pm |
re: #160 Dahveed
The Republican Jewish Coalition is happy that only (their word) 61% of the Jewish vote is going to Obama.
I think it's appalling that 61% of Jews would even consider Obama an option for their president. (I think it's appalling that anyone is considering Obama as their president, but that's another matter.) Why Jews in America still insist on being so damned liberal is beyond me.
Bush's recent crap with Annapolis and Condi didn't help, many jews see that as Bush selling out Israel. What does McCain have to say about the much vaunted two state solution, any idea (I am really asking).
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see bs Fri, May 9, 2008 2:37:07pm |
That makes sense since hamass will vote for him this november
/one man, one vote
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rawmuse Fri, May 9, 2008 2:37:12pm |
re: #143 Truck Monkey
Your lips to God's ears. I am surrounded by Libs (with money) and huge O stickers on their Volvos. Pardon my trepidation.
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Dahveed Fri, May 9, 2008 2:37:18pm |
re: #174 Kosh's Shadow
They'll probably think the cattle cars are taking them to a comfortable camp as well.
Whenever I talk to my friends who are Jewish and thinking about voting for Obama I think the same exact thing. I can only shake my head in disbelief that there are people that stupid in the world. And they have the right to vote, which is a real crime.
Forget about the fact that Obama would have people in his administration that were anti-Israel. The anti-Semitism among his domestic administration would be rampant. And Obama would never be held to account.
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jamgarr Fri, May 9, 2008 2:37:24pm |
re: #184 song_and_dance_man
Well I missed it.
It's quoted in your #176
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mj Fri, May 9, 2008 2:37:29pm |
re: #160 Dahveed
The Republican Jewish Coalition is happy that only (their word) 61% of the Jewish vote is going to Obama.
I think it's appalling that 61% of Jews would even consider Obama an option for their president. (I think it's appalling that anyone is considering Obama as their president, but that's another matter.) Why Jews in America still insist on being so damned liberal is beyond me.
I think Obama will end up getting more than 61% of the Jewish vote. The Democratic machine will play the Church/State card like they always do and try and scare Jews into believing that McCain supports a theocracy. Works every time. Obama will end up with maybe 75% of the Jewish vote unless more rabid Jew-haters turn up in his campaign. Of course, if the democrats don't count FL. then he may end up with a higher % since older Jews will not support him as much as younger ones will.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, May 9, 2008 2:37:59pm |
re: #177 jcm
What I saw on a Prius, my jaw dropped.
Oy, vey. In Hebrew. Now, Arabic wouldn't surprise me.
I'm sure the German Jews in the 1920's thought Hitler wasn't going to be so bad.
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Nevergiveup Fri, May 9, 2008 2:38:00pm |
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Ma Sands Fri, May 9, 2008 2:38:33pm |
re: #175 bosforus
Would you care to see the personal reply I got from Samaritan's Purse?
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3 wood Fri, May 9, 2008 2:39:35pm |
re: #129 NJDhockeyfan
Which side will Reuters choose to propagandize?
Any side that promotes communism.
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jamgarr Fri, May 9, 2008 2:39:37pm |
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onepistoffyid Fri, May 9, 2008 2:39:50pm |
re: #191 rawmuse
Your lips to God's ears. I am surrounded by Libs (with money) and huge O stickers on their Volvos. Pardon my trepidation.
re: #194 mj
I think Obama will end up getting more than 61% of the Jewish vote. The Democratic machine will play the Church/State card like they always do and try and scare Jews into believing that McCain supports a theocracy. Works every time. Obama will end up with maybe 75% of the Jewish vote unless more rabid Jew-haters turn up in his campaign. Of course, if the democrats don't count FL. then he may end up with a higher % since older Jews will not support him as much as younger ones will.
Obama will get the Ron Paul vote to make up for any loss of jewish votes....being perceived as anti-Israel will actually help Obama with the palecons that blame all ills on Israel.
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jamgarr Fri, May 9, 2008 2:40:51pm |
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re: #197 song_and_dance_man
I don't see it and the only deletions are you and Truck Monkey and 139 is still there.
And I'm pretty sure that the only reason anything else got deleted was the quoted reference to 139.
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Silhouette Fri, May 9, 2008 2:40:53pm |
re: #179 Ward Cleaver
Sounds like Robert K.K.K. Byrd Democrats.
I clicked the link, but didn't see the article. Did any of those 45% not voting for Obama say they weren't voting for him because of his race?
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Nevergiveup Fri, May 9, 2008 2:42:17pm |
re: #204 Silhouette
I clicked the link, but didn't see the article. Did any of those 45% not voting for Obama say they weren't voting for him because of his race?
What exactly is Obama's "race"? Communist?
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jamgarr Fri, May 9, 2008 2:42:33pm |
re: #199 song_and_dance_man
Can't be since that is all my writing.
Hey, I like you - I don't want to get into a thing about it.
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bosforus Fri, May 9, 2008 2:42:56pm |
re: #198 Ma Sands
Would you care to see the personal reply I got from Samaritan's Purse?
YES! I was going to ask you about it but I didn't think you'd get it so soon.
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Dahveed Fri, May 9, 2008 2:43:39pm |
re: #194 mj
I really want am trying to convince myself that more and more Jews are voting Republican but just not admitting it. It goes against all sensibilities in the Jewish community to be a Republican.
But unfortunately I think you are right. I think that Jews will be voting in droves for Obama. No matter how many anti-Israel/anti-Semitic people Obama has on his staff, he will get the Jewish vote out of obligation.
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vagabond trader Fri, May 9, 2008 2:43:52pm |
Lots of JINOs out there. One of my Jewish friends confided that her biggest concern re: the Obama is his lack of experience! I happen to be one of those small town bitter clingy type Jews and proud of it.
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Occasional Reader Fri, May 9, 2008 2:44:04pm |
re: #206 Nevergiveup
What exactly is Obama's "race"?
He's "a black man, born of a white woman", according to Farrakhan.
(quoting from memory)
Funny how "progressives" seem to like the Jim Crow "one drop" rule.
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Occasional Reader Fri, May 9, 2008 2:45:12pm |
re: #210 vagabond trader
those small town bitter clingy
Hey, not to worry... Michelle Obama says that you can make yourself into something special, even if you're from a small town in Kansas.
Her magnanimity knows no bounds.
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Dianna Fri, May 9, 2008 2:45:28pm |
re: #191 rawmuse
Well, at least when it's over, they can pay someone to remove the stickers.
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David Simon Fri, May 9, 2008 2:45:57pm |
re: #177 jcm
What I saw on a Prius, my jaw dropped.
How dumb are some Jews? This dumb:
I've recently been asked why I support Barack Obama because "he's not a
friend to Israel". Those questions arose even before the recent and disturbing
reports from Rev Wright's pulpit. Although I have never believed the
"anti-Israel" rehetoric, I've someitmes asked those of you more involved in the
campaign to help me respond. In other instances where I thought an immediate
answer was required, I just winged it.
That was the lead in to an e-mail I received from my uncle (presumably the cretin who wrote it is a friend of his) extolling Obama's pro-Israel credentials.
In other words, "I'm voting for Obama, but I haven't the faintest idea why."
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Ma Sands Fri, May 9, 2008 2:46:09pm |
re: #208 bosforus
Like I said, they're good people. :)
On behalf of Franklin Graham, thank you for compassion for the millions of people affected by the powerful cyclone in Myanmar.
We do have a few staff members already in the country, who were traveling there for other purposes, and are now able to purchase clean water for immediate relief and buckets in preparation for distributions of PuR packets. We are coordinating the shipment of these packets with the Minister of Health in Myanmar. These packets of powder can be mixed with up to 10 liters of unsanitary water to make it drinkable in about 20 minutes.
Pending approval, we will be distributing plastic sheeting for temporary shelters and 12 water filters capable of filtering 10,000 gallons of water a day—enough for 3,000 people. These systems will benefit as many as 36,000 people daily. Please join us in prayer that the Lord will continue to open doors for our team who is waiting in Bangkok. The next couple of days are crucial in orchestrating the level of our initial response.
You may check our web site for more information and updates on our response. Thank you for your support. May God bless you.
So, it looks like the most crucial need right now, is prayer to get the stuff across the border.....
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Nevergiveup Fri, May 9, 2008 2:46:31pm |
re: #209 Dahveed
I really want am trying to convince myself that more and more Jews are voting Republican but just not admitting it. It goes against all sensibilities in the Jewish community to be a Republican.
But unfortunately I think you are right. I think that Jews will be voting in droves for Obama. No matter how many anti-Israel/anti-Semitic people Obama has on his staff, he will get the Jewish vote out of obligation.
Wow! "It goes against all sensibilities in the Jewish community to be a Republican"?---I am a PROUD member of the RJC.
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rawmuse Fri, May 9, 2008 2:46:43pm |
re: #214 Dianna
Well, at least when it's over, they can pay someone to remove the stickers.
They still have their Kerry/Edwards stickers on...
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 2:46:50pm |
re: #211 Occasional Reader
He's "a black man, born of a white woman", according to Farrakhan.
(quoting from memory)
Funny how "progressives" seem to like the Jim Crow "one drop" rule.
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aunursa Fri, May 9, 2008 2:47:11pm |
"Perhaps, because of his inexperience, Senator Obama surrounds himself with advisers that contradict his stated policies," said Mr Scheunemann.
Apparently McCain won't be taking Reagan's pledge: "I am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience."
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Occasional Reader Fri, May 9, 2008 2:47:20pm |
re: #214 Dianna
Well, at least when it's over, they can pay someone to remove the stickers.
Sorry, Dianna. While I won't make predictions about Obama's electibilty of lack thereof, I will promise (threaten, more like it) this: We will be seeing Obama bumper stickers on Volvos for YEARS. In fact, ESPECIALLY if he loses... it'll be a way to show your "progressive" credentials.
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Silhouette Fri, May 9, 2008 2:47:23pm |
re: #189 onepistoffyid
Bush's recent crap with Annapolis and Condi didn't help, many jews see that as Bush selling out Israel.
Many Christians see that as Bush and Condi selling out Israel too.
But with perspective, no way is the Dem choice going to be better. Hillary uses the word Jew as an insult and we all know Obama's connections.
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nyc redneck Fri, May 9, 2008 2:47:25pm |
re: #195 Kosh's Shadow
Oy, vey. In Hebrew. Now, Arabic wouldn't surprise me.
I'm sure the German Jews in the 1920's thought Hitler wasn't going to be so bad.
alot of jews in germany didn't believe hitler would come for them, some had family roots going back for hundreds of yrs. and felt like upstanding loyal germans. i have a friend whose german jewish grampa married a german lutheran woman. it was his grandma who saw the hand writing on the wall and got them out.
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medaura18586 Fri, May 9, 2008 2:48:09pm |
re: #219 jcm
yeah... he sounds like he is qualified for a Phd on Obama Girl's tits.
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onepistoffyid Fri, May 9, 2008 2:49:17pm |
re: #223 Silhouette
Many Christians see that as Bush and Condi selling out Israel too.
But with perspective, no way is the Dem choice going to be better. Hillary uses the word Jew as an insult and we all know Obama's connections.
ok thanks...but I have yet to hear McCain's views on the middle east beyond vague platitudes....where is he on this, do you know?
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 2:49:26pm |
re: #225 medaura18586
yeah... he sounds like he is qualified for a Phd on Obama Girl's tits.
It not funny. But I find my self just laughing at him. It's SNL come to life.
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Nevergiveup Fri, May 9, 2008 2:49:39pm |
re: #222 Occasional Reader
Sorry, Dianna. While I won't make predictions about Obama's electibilty of lack thereof, I will promise (threaten, more like it) this: We will be seeing Obama bumper stickers on Volvos for YEARS. In fact, ESPECIALLY if he loses... it'll be a way to show your "progressive" credentials.
Listen my family has driven Volvos for years and you don't get to much farther to the right than me. Lay off the Volvos will tha.
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Dianna Fri, May 9, 2008 2:49:40pm |
re: #216 Ma Sands
I saw on elevator news that Myanmar has agreed to let one - count it, one - cargo plane bring in aid.
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vagabond trader Fri, May 9, 2008 2:50:14pm |
re: #213 Occasional Reader
Ms Michelle would find me quite unpleasant if I had anything to say about it.
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Dianna Fri, May 9, 2008 2:51:00pm |
re: #218 rawmuse
Have you told them that's pathetic?
Actually, it's not as sad as seeing a brand-new Lexus with a Kerry '04 sticker freshly applied.
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bosforus Fri, May 9, 2008 2:51:17pm |
re: #216 Ma Sands
Looks good! I saw on their website that they had been around for about 50 years and that pretty much clinched it for me. That, and the Graham connection. Thanks again for your help.
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Nevergiveup Fri, May 9, 2008 2:51:22pm |
re: #226 onepistoffyid
ok thanks...but I have yet to hear McCain's views on the middle east beyond vague platitudes....where is he on this, do you know?
Forthright 100% behind the only Democracy in the Middle East: ISRAEL!
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Dianna Fri, May 9, 2008 2:52:18pm |
re: #222 Occasional Reader
I really do find it utterly pathetic, you know.
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Occasional Reader Fri, May 9, 2008 2:52:18pm |
re: #228 Nevergiveup
Listen my family has driven Volvos for years
So basically you're saying that you're all a bunch of stinkin' Commies, and you hate America, right?
:P
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The Other Les Fri, May 9, 2008 2:52:27pm |
re: #215 David Simon
That was the lead in to an e-mail I received from my uncle (presumably the cretin who wrote it is a friend of his) extolling Obama's pro-Israel credentials.
In other words, "I'm voting for Obama, but I haven't the faintest idea why."
"But that Hitler fellow is such a spiffy dresser."
(Charles, as always, if that's going too far then just delete it.)
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Notlob Fri, May 9, 2008 2:52:30pm |
Obama truly and decisively reflects both the U.S. Democratic party and the European political perspective. I would wager that Barack is too conservative for most European elites.
The free world deserves three Obama terms as President.
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 2:52:52pm |
re: #229 Dianna
I saw on elevator news that Myanmar has agreed to let one - count it, one - cargo plane bring in aid.
This morning I posted a link, the Thugocracy seized some shipments.
A favor please? Burma, Myanmar is the name the Thugocracy imposed. IMHO using Myanmar lends, however unintended, a legitimacy to a illegitimate government. (just a little peeve of mine).
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mama winger Fri, May 9, 2008 2:53:15pm |
There are many 'community activists' in America. There are also many State Senators. Obama is qualified to be POTUS how?
What is wrong with the Democratic Party that they push Obama to this level? I think it is totally irresponsible for the DNC to field him as a candidate.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 2:53:42pm |
re: #237 Notlob
Obama truly and decisively reflects both the U.S. Democratic party and the European political perspective. I would wager that Barack is too conservative for most European elites.
The free world deserves three Obama terms as President.
STILL THY TONGUE!
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The Other Les Fri, May 9, 2008 2:54:43pm |
re: #218 rawmuse
They still have their Kerry/Edwards stickers on...
The problem with that is that most of those stickers are on the rear end of the car. Thus I can't take precautionary measures when encountering them on the road.
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Dahveed Fri, May 9, 2008 2:55:12pm |
re: #213 Occasional Reader
Hey, not to worry... Michelle Obama says that you can make yourself into something special, even if you're from a small town in Kansas.
Her magnanimity knows no bounds.
I heard in the same speech she said something about how nobody in the campaign has anywhere near the experience of doing for the community as her husband.
Well, I don't think that her husband spent 5 years in the Hanoi Hilton, earned the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Distinguished Flying Cross, and Purple Heart. So, I think she may want to go a different route if she wants to compare her husband's service to say his oppoonent's.
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onepistoffyid Fri, May 9, 2008 2:55:36pm |
re: #233 Nevergiveup
Forthright 100% behind the only Democracy in the Middle East: ISRAEL!
yes but that is what Bush said....can you tell me if he want's to consider the Annapolis process? If so I might not vote at all.
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VegasRick Fri, May 9, 2008 2:55:51pm |
re: #237 Notlob
Obama truly and decisively reflects both the U.S. Democratic party and the European political perspective. I would wager that Barack is too conservative for most European elites.
The free world deserves three Obama terms as President.
You come out of the gate with that one?
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The Other Les Fri, May 9, 2008 2:55:52pm |
re: #221 aunursa
Apparently McCain won't be taking Reagan's pledge: "I am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience."
Oh please don't take the pledge.
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bosforus Fri, May 9, 2008 2:56:02pm |
re: #239 mama winger
I built bird houses for an endangered species of birds once.
bosforus '08!
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 2:56:07pm |
re: #237 Notlob
Obama truly and decisively reflects both the U.S. Democratic party and the European political perspective. I would wager that Barack is too conservative for most European elites.
The free world deserves three Obama terms as President.
For purposes of clarity and since this is your first post, (Welcome!) acquaint yourself with the SARC TAG.
Don't like to see hatchings get their head ripped off for no good reason.
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mama winger Fri, May 9, 2008 2:56:13pm |
re: #243 Dahveed
I heard in the same speech she said something about how nobody in the campaign has anywhere near the experience of doing for the community as her husband.
What is she talking about? His asbestos gig?
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mama winger Fri, May 9, 2008 2:56:47pm |
re: #247 bosforus
I built bird houses for an endangered species of birds once.
bosforus '08!
I think that makes you over qualified. :)
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bosforus Fri, May 9, 2008 2:58:01pm |
re: #250 mama winger
I'm pretty sure the birdhouses are no longer there. Does that balance things out?
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Dahveed Fri, May 9, 2008 2:58:27pm |
re: #249 mama winger
What is she talking about? His asbestos gig?
She's talking about that thing you do when you are probably not that good a lawyer. You become a "community leader".
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mama winger Fri, May 9, 2008 2:58:32pm |
re: #251 bosforus
I'm pretty sure the birdhouses are no longer there. Does that balance things out?
Only if it was publicly funded housing.
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The Other Les Fri, May 9, 2008 2:59:30pm |
re: #237 Notlob
Obama truly and decisively reflects both the U.S. Democratic party and the European political perspective. I would wager that Barack is too conservative for most European elites.
The free world deserves three Obama terms as President.
I'm going to say something horrible.
If there were no other ill effects I would vote for Hillary just to see all the smug assholes who support her get some Gulag time. Nothing like being the star in a live performance of DARKNESS AT NOON to give someone a real appreciation of what socialism is really like.
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Nevergiveup Fri, May 9, 2008 2:59:33pm |
re: #244 onepistoffyid
yes but that is what Bush said....can you tell me if he want's to consider the Annapolis process? If so I might not vote at all.
Look, the "Annapolis process" was nothing more than a dog and pony show. And if the israeli government had any leadership or balls, the minute the Arabs refused to walk thru the same door as the Israelis they should have gotten back in their cars and headed for the Airport.
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mama winger Fri, May 9, 2008 2:59:49pm |
re: #253 Dahveed
She's talking about that thing you do when you are probably not that good a lawyer. You become a "community leader".
I'd like to see some evidence of his so-called accomplishments. My suspicion is they are somewhat along the lines of that other favorite Chicago community activist....... the Reverend Jackson......
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VegasRick Fri, May 9, 2008 2:59:51pm |
re: #248 jcm
For purposes of clarity and since this is your first post, (Welcome!) acquaint yourself with the SARC TAG.
Don't like to see hatchings get their head ripped off for no good reason.
I'm still waiting for the /.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 3:00:44pm |
re: #258 VegasRick
I'm still waiting for the /.
Good lawdy, he might have been serious.
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nyc redneck Fri, May 9, 2008 3:01:16pm |
re: #239 mama winger
There are many 'community activists' in America. There are also many State Senators. Obama is qualified to be POTUS how?
What is wrong with the Democratic Party that they push Obama to this level? I think it is totally irresponsible for the DNC to field him as a candidate.
it just show you how shallow and vapid they are. they picked him because he is bk, articulate and clean and picking him makes them feel good abt, themselves. they didn't need to know more because the "choosing" of this empty suit is what satisfied them. now they have to run interference for their inept messiah and so does the msm. you're right, how irresponsible. almost criminal from a moral perspective.
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Nevergiveup Fri, May 9, 2008 3:01:23pm |
re: #257 mama winger
I'd like to see some evidence of his so-called accomplishments. My suspicion is they are somewhat along the lines of that other favorite Chicago community activist....... the Reverend Jackson......
You mean old "shake down" Jackson?
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JustMyView Fri, May 9, 2008 3:01:29pm |
re: #59 Ojoe
Look how Obama did better in caucases than in primary elections.
Not quite right. He won all caucuses w/ the exception of NV, which was some sort of odd split decision. He has also won numerous primaries: NC, VA, MD, DC, WI, SC, VT, CT, and IL. Am not absolutely sure, but I think MO, LA, MI, GA, and AL were also primaries. That's 14 states plus the District of Columbia.
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bosforus Fri, May 9, 2008 3:01:35pm |
re: #254 mama winger
It was while i was a boy scout with money given to me by my grandpa constructed at a public school my dad taught at and the birdhouses were put up in a national forest. Not sure what that all equates to.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, May 9, 2008 3:01:38pm |
re: #187 Killgore Trout
Attacks in the Chouf, and a bit of humor
wow.
I get a Google error now when I click on that site.
Hmmm...
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 3:01:51pm |
re: #237 Notlob
The free world deserves three Obama terms as President.
This should be fun. Have at It.
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Nevergiveup Fri, May 9, 2008 3:02:41pm |
re: #264 JustMyView
Not quite right. He won all caucuses w/ the exception of NV, which was some sort of odd split decision. He has also won numerous primaries: NC, VA, MD, DC, WI, SC, VT, CT, and IL. Am not absolutely sure, but I think MO, LA, MI, GA, and AL were also primaries. That's 14 states plus the District of Columbia.
And how many delegates does the District of Columbia have?
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 3:02:53pm |
re: #258 VegasRick
I'm still waiting for the /.
The tenor of the first paragraph and it's nic Notlob, Bolton backwards. Hence the friendly advice. We'll see.....
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Ward Cleaver Fri, May 9, 2008 3:03:22pm |
re: #268 unrealizedviewpoint
This should be fun. Have at It.
Oooh, its first post. How auspicious.
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 3:03:35pm |
re: #260 mama winger
Is your name in honor of Bolton? :)
Momma's quick!
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Killgore Trout Fri, May 9, 2008 3:04:38pm |
re: #266 Ward Cleaver
That's odd, It's a Blogger site so they all used the same template. I wonder why google would block it with an error page.
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VegasRick Fri, May 9, 2008 3:04:45pm |
re: #259 Fat Jolly Penguin
Good lawdy, he might have been serious.
re: #268 unrealizedviewpoint
This should be fun. Have at It.
Where did it go?
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Kreuzueber Halbmond Fri, May 9, 2008 3:05:02pm |
re: #237 Notlob
Do notlob confusing "birthposts" at us without first buying a round of drinks.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, May 9, 2008 3:05:04pm |
re: #275 Killgore Trout
That's odd, It's a Blogger site so they all used the same template. I wonder why google would block it with an error page.
Maybe it's just that link. Lemme try the main site.
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LoFlyer Fri, May 9, 2008 3:05:25pm |
Who wants to bet that Hillary makes it to the convention and gains the nomination when her "machine" gets some traction? Her main issue is media coverage, Obama gets the good stuff and Hillary gets the bad. Reminds of how the media treats conservatives. I would really feel bad for Hillary except for the fact she supports media bias.You reap what you sow....
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onepistoffyid Fri, May 9, 2008 3:05:39pm |
re: #256 Nevergiveup
Look, the "Annapolis process" was nothing more than a dog and pony show. And if the israeli government had any leadership or balls, the minute the Arabs refused to walk thru the same door as the Israelis they should have gotten back in their cars and headed for the Airport.
OK I feel better now, I think.
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Ma Sands Fri, May 9, 2008 3:05:43pm |
re: #232 bosforus
Ah, I go way back with them.......have you ever read the book of the guy who started it, and then turned it over to Franklin as he was dying? It's the type of powerful that's got to be done right now, to move the supplies......and is proof of the power of prayer..... :) The book is "Bob Pierce: This One Thing I Do"
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Silhouette Fri, May 9, 2008 3:05:56pm |
re: #226 onepistoffyid
ok thanks...but I have yet to hear McCain's views on the middle east beyond vague platitudes....where is he on this, do you know?
It is up to each of us to decide if these quotes go beyond platitude.
McCain on the recent Israel-Lebanon War.
"My dear friends, you have probably seen our European friends say, 'Well, the Israelis have got to stop.' But what would we do if somebody came across our borders and killed our soldiers and captured our soldiers? Do you think we would be exercising total restraint?"
McCain on action against Iran's quest for the bomb
"There is only one thing worse than military action, and that is a nuclear armed Iran."
And for the big picture on global jihadism,
McCain said The conflict involving Israel is all part of this struggle that we're in.""The struggle is between radical extremist Islamic forces throughout the world, particularly in the Middle East, and West values and standards and beliefs and everything that we stand for."
and this
"If Hamas/Hezbollah succeeds here, they are going to succeed everywhere, not only in the Middle East but everywhere. Israel isn't the only enemy," McCain told the Post."They are dedicated to the extinction of everything that the U.S., Israel and the West believe and stand for. So America does have an interest in what happens here far above and beyond our alliance with the State of Israel."
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The Other Les Fri, May 9, 2008 3:06:12pm |
re: #59 Ojoe
Look how Obama did better in caucases than in primary elections.
At the time I thought that there were a number possible reasons to consider the Iowa caucus results to be a fluke:
1. Hillary didn't offer a big enough bribe (farm subsidies) to the Iowans.
(Seriously, when I did two weeks of telephone fund raising for the GOP every time I got a farmer on the line it was always "gimme gimme gimme" with them.)
2. Iowa is just across the river from Illinois with a number of very convenient bridges to facilitate the transmission of Illinois Democrat cooties.
3. It's not who votes that counts, it who counts the votes!
4. Dude, it's Iowa.
(As a nearly lifelong Minnesota resident this pretty much explains it.)
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 3:06:20pm |
re: #276 VegasRick
Where did it go?
Probably just an appetizer.
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Fri, May 9, 2008 3:06:29pm |
Barry, JACCP "Just another Crook County Politician"
If you look at Crook County, Illinois, you'll encounter one of the most ... corrupt, slimy, gang-affiliated, interesting political machines in the USA. They elected a dead man, county president - literally brain dead - and then substituted his idiot son. Since then, they've screwed their constituency, raised taxes, fires anybody that actually does work, and hired every relative at better than 100k per year.
/sarc And did I mention that they're some of the most elite progressives. /sarc
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Ward Cleaver Fri, May 9, 2008 3:07:04pm |
re: #278 Ward Cleaver
Maybe it's just that link. Lemme try the main site.
Huh, same thing.
We're sorry...
... but your query looks similar to automated requests from a computer virus or spyware application. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now.
We'll restore your access as quickly as possible, so try again soon. In the meantime, if you suspect that your computer or network has been infected, you might want to run a virus checker or spyware remover to make sure that your systems are free of viruses and other spurious software.
If you're continually receiving this error, you may be able to resolve the problem by deleting your Google cookie and revisiting Google. For browser-specific instructions, please consult your browser's online support center.
If your entire network is affected, more information is available in the Google Web Search Help Center.
We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope we'll see you again on Google.
How can I clear just Google's cookie in Firefox?
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Dahveed Fri, May 9, 2008 3:07:16pm |
re: #261 buzzsawmonkey
Hey, don't knock being a community leader. Al Sharpton doesn't even have a law degree, he gets hundreds of thousands of dollars in payoffs, doesn't pay bills, doesn't pay taxes, causes the deaths of innocents and ruins reputations, and still walks free.
Sweet.
Then Barack must not be that good a community leader if the best he can do is become President of the United States.
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bosforus Fri, May 9, 2008 3:07:32pm |
Time to go hit up a driving range. Later, lizards. Pray for those that might be on the other side of the driving range net. I have a terrible slice.
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Notlob Fri, May 9, 2008 3:08:07pm |
From the Monty Python Parrot sketch. I think LGF might be dead.
[Link: tinyurl.com...]
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 3:09:14pm |
re: #274 Ward Cleaver
Where's the FNDT?
Ring the bell and yell OPEN!
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ec marm Fri, May 9, 2008 3:10:21pm |
re: #269 ploome hineni
JImmy Carter?
Please. No mention of him on such a miserable, overcast, raining Friday. By the way, have you been feeling a knife in your back? Start around #1453
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Kreuzueber Halbmond Fri, May 9, 2008 3:11:00pm |
re: #286 Ward Cleaver
How can I clear just Google's cookie in Firefox?
tools > options > show cookies (under privacy tab) > select the Google cookie(s) > click remove cookie
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 3:11:08pm |
re: #291 jamgarr
The over/under stands at twenty minutes.
Over 20 for a $100.
Always the optimist.
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Nevergiveup Fri, May 9, 2008 3:11:11pm |
re: #280 onepistoffyid
OK I feel better now, I think.
Look, NO American President is going to be as viscerally supportive of the State Of Israel as many of us here may be. The President is the Leader of the United States of America and that is his/or her ONLY allegiance. That does not mean that a rational US Foreign Policy should not be fully supportive of Israel but America does have other interests at stake. I know President Bush has let us all down at times, but given the alternative, I would sigh on again with out any hesitation. The alternative is to terrible to even contemplate.
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jamgarr Fri, May 9, 2008 3:11:56pm |
re: #296 unrealizedviewpoint
Over 20 for a $100.
Always the optimist.
You know, it is happy hour on a Friday, so maybe I was a little hasty.
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VegasRick Fri, May 9, 2008 3:12:08pm |
re: #291 jamgarr
The over/under stands at twenty minutes.
I'm taking the under.
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Silhouette Fri, May 9, 2008 3:12:24pm |
Here's a picture of McCain guaranteed to drive Hamas, CAIR, et al crazy.
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LoFlyer Fri, May 9, 2008 3:13:01pm |
re: #285 Conservative in Liberal Hands
Barry, JACCP "Just another Crook County Politician"
If you look at Crook County, Illinois, you'll encounter one of the most ...
corrupt, slimy, gang-affiliated,interesting political machines in the USA. They elected a dead man, county president - literally brain dead - and then substituted his idiot son. Since then, they've screwed their constituency, raised taxes, fires anybody that actually does work, and hired every relative at better than 100k per year./sarc And did I mention that they're some of the most elite progressives. /sarc
Sorta of reminds of metro Atlanta. Clayton county school system is scheduled for loss of national accreditation in September due to its corrupt commissioners. Blacks need to look at what is happening in Clayton County and put their votes where their mouths are. Vote for character and qualifications rather than race....
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ec marm Fri, May 9, 2008 3:13:14pm |
re: #273 unrealizedviewpoint
Momma's quick!
Quick, or dyslexic. Or the best of both. :~)
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Notlob Fri, May 9, 2008 3:13:25pm |
Fat Penguin?
"...O: Look, if you go to my brother's pet shop in Bolton, he'll replace the parrot for you.
C: Bolton, eh? Very well.
The customer leaves.
The customer enters the same pet shop. The owner is putting on a false moustache.
C: This is Bolton, is it?
O: (with a fake mustache) No, it's Ipswitch.
C: (looking at the camera) That's inter-city rail for you.
The customer goes to the train station.
He addresses a man standing behind a desk marked "Complaints"...."
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The Other Les Fri, May 9, 2008 3:13:32pm |
Even if Hillary doesn't get the nomination this ywear I don't believe for a second that we will see the last of her. If history has taught us anything it is that those who see power over others as the central value of their lives (Lenin, Hitler, Castro, Chavez, et al.) will continue to work toward that goal until they have achieved it.
That means if we are lucky Hillary will become the Harold Stassen of the Democratic Party, doomed to perpetually run for the office of President. If we're not lucky, she'll win the office of President.
(Yes, I know it wasn't nice to compare her to Harold Stassen. But then I'd dig him up vote for him before I'd vote for Hillary.)
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snowcrash Fri, May 9, 2008 3:14:11pm |
re: #294 ec marm
I saw that and I will now add her to the despicable and insulting "A van Hiltens" in my list of scroll overs.
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WrathofG-d Fri, May 9, 2008 3:14:20pm |
re: #300 Silhouette
Look at that American Zionist Pig trying to push over the "holy" Al-Quds base wall, and defiling Mo's horse tie-up wall!
Jihad!@!
//
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 3:14:22pm |
re: #297 Nevergiveup
Look, NO American President is going to be as viscerally supportive of the State Of Israel as many of us here may be. The President is the Leader of the United States of America and that is his/or her ONLY allegiance. That does not mean that a rational US Foreign Policy should not be fully supportive of Israel but America does have other interests at stake. I know President Bush has let us all down at times, but given the alternative, I would sigh on again with out any hesitation. The alternative is to terrible to even contemplate.
Thank God for the 22nd Amendment then because I highly doubt Mr. Bush would win a third term. :)
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onepistoffyid Fri, May 9, 2008 3:14:47pm |
re: #282 Silhouette
You did your part for America.....now there is one less jew for Obama
/never was anyway
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marsouin Fri, May 9, 2008 3:14:48pm |
What's with Obama: it seems everyone around him are either connected to or sympathize with totalitarian movements.
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vagabond trader Fri, May 9, 2008 3:14:49pm |
Hmmm, let's see, Malley, Power,Wright,New black panthers,Ayers,Rezko,Granny, the rich Iraqi whatsisname,oh yeah the bodies are piling up.
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 3:15:08pm |
re: #290 Notlob
I think LGF might be dead.
It's nic is a palindrome...
It's nic begins in N...
It couldn't be could it?
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VegasRick Fri, May 9, 2008 3:16:53pm |
re: #312 jcm
It's nic is a palindrome...
It's nic begins in N...It couldn't be could it?
I think you've got it! My thought from the beginning.
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 3:19:02pm |
re: #312 jcm
It's nic is a palindrome...
It's nic begins in N...It couldn't be could it?
Then I want to change my bet to the Under. Soon as Charles realizes it he's gone.
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democast Fri, May 9, 2008 3:21:30pm |
There's something I'd like to get off my chest with you guys:
The past 2 days are a milestone of 60 years of survival of the fledgling Jewish State from a Judaism-loathing, Jewry-hating, Palestinian-loving, oil-crazed world. Even Bush will go there this week.
After waiting 60-years for this occassion- isn't it at least worthy enough for a national network news to acknowledge the factual history of the establishment and survival of the State and people of that nation. Who is Israel? What better occassion to help publicly clarify, identify this country, people, and their plight?
There are plenty of resources to draw from. But who showed anything? Please list any of the documentaries you saw shown by one of the Discovery or History Channels?
But all I saw was Google News' aggregating newspaper articles which focussed on the Palestinians struggle. What have you seen?
Shouldn't the Israeli Foreign Ministry's Communications Dept have done a little better? Shouldn't the organized Jewish Federation? Or the rest of the Jewish establishment?
What's wrong with this picture? The chief of US NATO Command claims that Israel is America's greatest ally in the world.
Is it any wonder why, like the US military in Iraq, the Jihadist war against the West is being undermined in the global public psyche by our own media?
Your comments welcome personally on [Link: www.Joo-Tube.com...]
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debutaunt Fri, May 9, 2008 3:36:07pm |
re: #229 Dianna
I saw on elevator news that Myanmar has agreed to let one - count it, one - cargo plane bring in aid.
You mean Burma?
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Notlob Fri, May 9, 2008 3:38:41pm |
unrealizedviewpoint, do not get paranoid. Free nations are so odd that those who see free nations, let alone those who have benefited from living in free nations, must attempt to preserve the oddity of free nations.
Freedom and liberty are not human rights; they are oddities of prosperous civilizations.
Free nations are unstable oddities which need constant effort to maintain.
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 3:44:13pm |
re: #321 Notlob
Freedom and liberty are not human rights;
Individual rights, not human rights.
Not an oddity, the culmination of centuries of progress.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 3:44:51pm |
re: #321 Notlob
unrealizedviewpoint, do not get paranoid. Free nations are so odd that those who see free nations, let alone those who have benefited from living in free nations, must attempt to preserve the oddity of free nations.
Freedom and liberty are not human rights; they are oddities of prosperous civilizations.
Free nations are unstable oddities which need constant effort to maintain.
Excuse me? Remember our Declaration of Independence?
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...
In other words, prosperity happens when people are free; it doesn't bring freedoms, and it certainly doesn't happen by accident.
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Notlob Fri, May 9, 2008 3:46:27pm |
unrealizedviewpoint, whatever you are imagining, there are very few here who are more pro-Israel or pro-America than I am. I have no idea who you are or what you have been drugged with but the very few words I have said have been civil. There is however plenty of 'Kool-Aid' in the world today.
:(
Kool-Aid tastes good and is sweet.
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VegasRick Fri, May 9, 2008 3:48:12pm |
re: #325 Notlob
unrealizedviewpoint, whatever you are imagining, there are very few here who are more pro-Israel or pro-America than I am. I have no idea who you are or what you have been drugged with but the very few words I have said have been civil. There is however plenty of 'Kool-Aid' in the world today.
:(Kool-Aid tastes good and is sweet.
You sound like an experienced Kool-Aid drinker.
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Silhouette Fri, May 9, 2008 3:49:08pm |
Oh, if you're rich, you'll just happen to get to freedom?
Nope, you've got it backwards. A free nation will prosper.
This is why the US can export food grown in places that used to be deserts, and why oil-rich and well located (tourism? trade route?) places like Burma are wallowing in lethal poverty.
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 3:49:08pm |
re: #325 Notlob
unrealizedviewpoint, whatever you are imagining, there are very few here who are more pro-Israel or pro-America than I am./blockquote>
Your posts do not reflect such.
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 3:50:11pm |
re: #325 Notlob
Your posts do not reflect such opinions.
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Notlob Fri, May 9, 2008 3:50:55pm |
Excuse me? Remember our Declaration of Independence?
---
Yes I do. Almost no one alive has such freedom and wealth.
Our freedom and wealth are odd. Not normal.
That is why I am bothered when some expect wealth, freedom, liberty, rule of law and 'rights' as rights.
What again is your problem with my words? Perhaps my accent is off.
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Noam Sayin' Fri, May 9, 2008 3:50:59pm |
re: #321 Notlob
Free nations are unstable oddities which need constant effort to maintain.
Where the hell are you from?
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Notlob Fri, May 9, 2008 3:52:08pm |
Unrel,
I have almost no posts. What is your problem?
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 3:52:51pm |
re: #330 Notlob
Excuse me? Remember our Declaration of Independence?
---
Yes I do. Almost no one alive has such freedom and wealth.Our freedom and wealth are odd. Not normal.
That is why I am bothered when some expect wealth, freedom, liberty, rule of law and 'rights' as rights.What again is your problem with my words? Perhaps my accent is off.
OK, I'll give you that. Our liberties are not normal by historical standards, but you're completely backward about their causes and effects. Prosperity doesn't cause liberty to magically appear.
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 3:54:35pm |
re: #237 Notlob
Obama truly and decisively reflects both the U.S. Democratic party and the European political perspective. I would wager that Barack is too conservative for most European elites.
The free world deserves three Obama terms as President.
Could it be this nonsense?
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sattv4u2 Fri, May 9, 2008 3:55:36pm |
re: #333 Fat Jolly Penguin
OK, I'll give you that. Our liberties are not normal by historical standards, but you're completely backward about their causes and effects. Prosperity doesn't cause liberty to magically appear.
I could easily argue that LIBERTY can cause PROSPERITY
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Notlob Fri, May 9, 2008 3:56:28pm |
Noam, are you reading into my words? Free nations are as rare and as wonderful as pearls. Free nations like pearls are beautiful rarities. I've only been here a short time, my intention is thus easy to see and dissect.
This is the cult-like aspect of LGF that I worry about. Dissect, take apart and look at why you are upset.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 3:56:57pm |
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Noam Sayin' Fri, May 9, 2008 3:58:17pm |
re: #335 sattv4u2
I could easily argue that LIBERTY can cause PROSPERITY
You're absolutely right. Liberty does cause prosperity. Think about all the free people in the 200+ years of American history, and all the inventions we've developed because people were free to think, create ideas and see them through to fruition.
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 3:59:05pm |
re: #330 Notlob
Excuse me? Remember our Declaration of Independence?
---
Yes I do. Almost no one alive has such freedom and wealth.Our freedom and wealth are odd. Not normal.
That is why I am bothered when some expect wealth, freedom, liberty, rule of law and 'rights' as rights.What again is your problem with my words? Perhaps my accent is off.
Oddity implies unexpected, abnormal.
When individual liberty is recognized and respect, government rules at the consent of the governed. The what springs forth from the liberty is the full release of the human potential.
The philosophers, writers, leaders of the enlightenment predicted the outcome of individual liberty.
It may be rare in human history but not an oddity. It is predicted and proven result of liberty. Not a coincident, not an accident.
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Silhouette Fri, May 9, 2008 3:59:23pm |
re: #330 Notlob
That is why I am bothered when some expect wealth, freedom, liberty, rule of law and 'rights' as rights.
You are bothered when people expect freedom, liberty, and rule of law to be a right?
I know a few guys who thought life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are rights. Unalienable, even.
Or are you trying to say you are bothered when people expect the rights to be handed to them, without the hard work?
If so, I agree with you. It was a leap of faith of epic proportions that our founding fathers took. They worked hard. And we must remain vigilant to keep our freedoms.
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Noam Sayin' Fri, May 9, 2008 4:00:08pm |
re: #337 Notlob
Noam, are you reading into my words? Free nations are as rare and as wonderful as pearls. Free nations like pearls are beautiful rarities. I've only been here a short time, my intention is thus easy to see and dissect.
This is the cult-like aspect of LGF that I worry about. Dissect, take apart and look at why you are upset.
Nope. I quoted the wrong passage. My bad.
Freedom and liberty are not human rights; they are oddities of prosperous civilizations.
This is the passage I meant to quote. It led me to believe that you were not from a free nation.
And maybe a bit jealous about it.
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Notlob Fri, May 9, 2008 4:00:58pm |
Free nations and free people are so odd that free nations and peoples need to get together and survive.
Mark Steyn asked (I paraphrase) 'who will man the 'Greenpeace' or 'Amnesty International' booths in 2060?
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VegasRick Fri, May 9, 2008 4:02:05pm |
re: #332 Notlob
Unrel,
I have almost no posts. What is your problem?
How about your first ever post?
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 4:06:26pm |
re: #344 VegasRick
How about your first ever post?
Just an anomalous first post? :)
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Notlob Fri, May 9, 2008 4:06:31pm |
JCM, we are more free than anyone who has ever lived and more free than most alive today. Is that not great?
Free nations and free individuals are beautiful, rare, oddities. Wonderful, beautiful, precious, rarities who need maintenance not dischord.
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don_in_ga Fri, May 9, 2008 4:06:52pm |
Heres a link to the great and most wonderful Obama claiming theres 57 states
The MSM used to have a field day with Bush's gafes - I'll bet that you won't hear anything about this from the press
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 4:13:05pm |
re: #348 Notlob
Hit me 'Rick'.
Rather than answer your question he seems to want another card. :)
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sattv4u2 Fri, May 9, 2008 4:14:18pm |
re: #351 unrealizedviewpoint
Rather than answer your question he seems to want another card. :)
A joker, perhaps ?
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VegasRick Fri, May 9, 2008 4:16:08pm |
re: #353 sattv4u2
A joker, perhaps ?
Suicide King.
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 4:17:32pm |
re: #352 Notlob
My password is aaaaaaaa
I waste my time here.
He does not seem to want to answer the questions posed with regard to his first post.
hmmm
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Noam Sayin' Fri, May 9, 2008 4:19:38pm |
re: #352 Notlob
My password is aaaaaaaa
I waste my time here.
Is someone going to try it?
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 4:19:52pm |
re: #346 Notlob
JCM, we are more free than anyone who has ever lived and more free than most alive today. Is that not great?
Free nations and free individuals are beautiful, rare, oddities. Wonderful, beautiful, precious, rarities who need maintenance not dischord.
That is true.
But you posts make it sound happenstantial, enforced by your instances of using "oddity."
The concept of an individual right to life, liberty and property is the result of centuries of mighty labor, the result of government recognition of these individual rights is predictable.
You are correct free nation have common cause, that "eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."
Liberals make a common mistake. The sound, act and speak like the greatness of America and free nations is an accident of history and we should feel guilt at enjoying the benefits of an accidental inheritance.
It's like saying the person who studies hard, works hard, is lucky. Luck has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Work calls BBL.
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Silhouette Fri, May 9, 2008 4:20:04pm |
re: #358 Noam Sayin'
Is someone going to try it?
Naaaaaa
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Noam Sayin' Fri, May 9, 2008 4:21:14pm |
re: #360 Silhouette
Naaaaaa
Why not? We could steal his nick and change the password, assuming he's on the level.
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sattv4u2 Fri, May 9, 2008 4:23:32pm |
re: #356 unrealizedviewpoint
He does not seem to want to answer the questions posed with regard to his first post.
hmmm
I'm late to the party (as usual),,,what was it's first post?
(yeah yeah ,, I know ,,,, but I'm too lazy to scroll ,,, so give me the Cliff Notes version, please)
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stuiec Fri, May 9, 2008 4:24:04pm |
re: #245 VegasRick
You come out of the gate with that one?
I think what Mr. Bolton-spelt-backwards means is that the jelly-spined elites of Europe don't seem much committed to defending Western values of liberty and prosperity, and (though they aren't voting in the US elections) they need the kind of eye-opening jolt that they would get from an Obama presidency -- which would leave them stripped of US defenses in the military, political and economic spheres.
Plus, the reference to three terms sort of gives away his sardonic intent.
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abolitionist Fri, May 9, 2008 4:24:44pm |
re: #347 don_in_ga
Heres a link to the great and most wonderful Obama claiming theres 57 states
The MSM used to have a field day with Bush's gafes - I'll bet that you won't hear anything about this from the press
Coincidentally, 57 is the number of nations of the OIC.
/ queing Twilight Zone music
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big L Fri, May 9, 2008 4:24:55pm |
36 truck monkey---your lips to G-d's ear. Please say it will be so. This entity, Obama, is so bad but what's worse is 48,000,000 people potentially voting for this jug-eared nit wit,phoney baloney. He is like a black Huey Long.... On redstate,iirc, the women reporters are mad but silent because the f*cker says things about
Hill like "periodically she goes off on me". Mentioning her period. No sympathy for Hill but he is such an a-hole. Where is the pie guy?
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 4:25:38pm |
re: #363 sattv4u2
re: #237 Notlob
Obama truly and decisively reflects both the U.S. Democratic party and the European political perspective. I would wager that Barack is too conservative for most European elites.
The free world deserves three Obama terms as President.
It only went downhill from there.
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kindadifferent Fri, May 9, 2008 4:27:10pm |
re: #355 BabbaZee
Any idea what these Obamamaniacs hope Obamusim will bring to the world? All I have is fear of this obamanation!
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 4:27:22pm |
re: #368 Fat Jolly Penguin
I don't know whether or not he was joking, but I think the real kicker came when he said "Freedom and liberty are not human rights; they are oddities of prosperous civilizations."
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BabbaZee Fri, May 9, 2008 4:28:31pm |
re: #366 abolitionist
Coincidentally, 57 is the number of nations of the OIC.
Ohhhhhhh gaaaaaad the OIC....
They have a ten year plan for our doom.
Friends!
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Dr. Shalit Fri, May 9, 2008 4:28:49pm |
re: #54 Ojoe
— Niccolo Machiavelli.
Ojoe -
As you are well aware, taking a position contrary to old Niccolo or Sun Tzu
is usually a chancy proposition - best backed by overwhelming force.
-S-
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BabbaZee Fri, May 9, 2008 4:29:06pm |
re: #369 kindadifferent
Any idea what these Obamamaniacs hope Obamusim will bring to the world? All I have is fear of this obamanation!
Nothing.
They believe in
nothing
therefore they will receive it
in abundance!
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Dr. Shalit Fri, May 9, 2008 4:29:43pm |
re: #117 buzzsawmonkey
Obama's advisor was just working out the Jew-murder quotas for 2009 with the Hamas people.
Nothing to see here.
"Buzz"
Just MOVE ON?
-S-
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sattv4u2 Fri, May 9, 2008 4:30:28pm |
re: #368 Fat Jolly Penguin
re: #237 Notlob
It only went downhill from there.
wow ,,,,,,,, just wow
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 4:31:43pm |
re: #376 sattv4u2
wow ,,,,,,,, just wow
Yep. And now it won't back itself up; it seems to have disappeared.
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VegasRick Fri, May 9, 2008 4:32:21pm |
re: #377 Fat Jolly Penguin
Yep. And now it won't back itself up; it seems to have disappeared.
I "hit" em.
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 4:33:10pm |
re: #377 Fat Jolly Penguin
Yep. And now it won't back itself up; it seems to have disappeared.
Yep. Turned in its password and jumped ship.
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kindadifferent Fri, May 9, 2008 4:33:26pm |
re: #373 BabbaZee
Thanks Babba Zee for clarifying...a few weeks ago a young Canadian begged me to register to vote (I live in B.C. Canada) to I could help Obama. It's so sickening these liberal Canadians who can't see the irony of their religious zeal in believing Obama is the Messiah. A Canadian woman told me that Obama would be like Trudeau and bring the people of the U.S. together. I don't get it!
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 4:34:58pm |
re: #379 unrealizedviewpoint
Yep. Turned in its password and jumped ship.
Ah darn. No gamey buttocks.
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sattv4u2 Fri, May 9, 2008 4:35:47pm |
re: #381 Fat Jolly Penguin
Ah darn. No gamey buttocks.
I miss all the fun ,,,,
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BabbaZee Fri, May 9, 2008 4:36:02pm |
re: #380 kindadifferent
Thanks Babba Zee for clarifying...a few weeks ago a young Canadian begged me to register to vote (I live in B.C. Canada) to I could help Obama. It's so sickening these liberal Canadians who can't see the irony of their religious zeal in believing Obama is the Messiah. A Canadian woman told me that Obama would be like Trudeau and bring the people of the U.S. together. I don't get it!
He is a Gramscian Whore, born and raised to be one.
It is communism focusing on politicizing the personal.
Why do people think he is messiah?
becasue they have no idea who messiah really is.
Satan loves him a vacuum
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Dr. Shalit Fri, May 9, 2008 4:37:40pm |
re: #373 BabbaZee
Nothing.
They believe in
nothing
therefore they will receive itin abundance!
"Babba" -
The only "NOTHING" they believe in is "MONEY FOR NOTHING AND ..... " DIRE STRAITS, 1984. Everything else is "Covetousness" - Hashem through Moshe - Way Back When! One of the "TEN" as I recall.
-S-
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 4:38:05pm |
re: #381 Fat Jolly Penguin
Ah darn. No gamey buttocks.
It was his password too. I tried it and it worked. I then reported it via the form to Charles. He'll either block the account or simply disable it by changing the pin.
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stuiec Fri, May 9, 2008 4:39:09pm |
re: #359 jcm
But you posts make it sound happenstantial, enforced by your instances of using "oddity."
Odd: exceptional, rare, out of the ordinary.
Earth, as a planet that sustains sentient life, is an oddity. It may well be the only such planet in the Universe. Some think its existence is happenstance, while others think it owes to a deliberate plan.
I'd argue that there indeed was a large element of luck (or Divine Providence, if you prefer) in the advance of Western civilization. The mere luck of there being humans alive in sufficient numbers to take advantage of an interglacial warming period to transition from hunting and gathering to agriculture was a lucky event.
But I would also argue that it was the moral values, ingenuity and hard work of Western Europeans that led to the ascendancy of the Western values of political and economic freedom. Certainly the march of human history has not reflected that liberty and prosperity are natural outcomes of human activity, but rather the results of deliberate, concerted and tenacious efforts to establish those outcomes as the rights of man. Before His creations could fully enjoy those unalienable rights, God had to wait for mankind to stop interfering with His handiwork through tyranny and slavery.
God makes opportunities. Man makes outcomes (bounded by the opportunities afforded by God).
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 4:41:08pm |
re: #387 stuiec
But I would also argue that it was the moral values, ingenuity and hard work of Western Europeans that led to the ascendancy of the Western values of political and economic freedom. Certainly the march of human history has not reflected that liberty and prosperity are natural outcomes of human activity, but rather the results of deliberate, concerted and tenacious efforts to establish those outcomes as the rights of man. Before His creations could fully enjoy those unalienable rights, God had to wait for mankind to stop interfering with His handiwork through tyranny and slavery.
As Babba says, 144,000 updings.
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 4:41:52pm |
re: #387 stuiec
Gave up his Notlob to assume stuiec.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 4:44:26pm |
re: #390 unrealizedviewpoint
Gave up his Notlob to assume stuiec.
You sure? That doesn't sound much like him to me...
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debutaunt Fri, May 9, 2008 4:44:30pm |
re: #366 abolitionist
Coincidentally, 57 is the number of nations of the OIC.
/ queing Twilight Zone music
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAA
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 4:45:48pm |
re: #391 Fat Jolly Penguin
You sure? That doesn't sound much like him to me...
Absolutely not sure. The timing though. Another 1st post just after a first poster splits. hmmm.
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sattv4u2 Fri, May 9, 2008 4:46:55pm |
re: #393 unrealizedviewpoint
Absolutely not sure. The timing though. Another 1st post just after a first poster splits. hmmm.
we have to start doing iris scans at the door !
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rawmuse Fri, May 9, 2008 4:46:56pm |
I think Notlob had a point, but was perhaps clumsy in word choice. Free nations are rare, and are not the normal human condition. The normal human condition is serfdom or even slavery. Freedom is precious, and fragile. Thus, it must be vigorously defended.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 4:47:21pm |
re: #393 unrealizedviewpoint
Absolutely not sure. The timing though. Another 1st post just after a first poster splits. hmmm.
This from his user's page...
stuiec
-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------Registered since: Nov 7, 2004 at 9:24 am
No. of comments posted: 894
No. of links posted: 1
*confused
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bill-tb Fri, May 9, 2008 4:48:00pm |
Obama's whole bus is so loaded with America hating sleaze it must slosh at every turn.
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sattv4u2 Fri, May 9, 2008 4:48:03pm |
re: #395 rawmuse
I think Notlob had a point, but was perhaps clumsy in word choice. Free nations are rare, and are not the normal human condition. The normal human condition is serfdom or even slavery. Freedom is precious, and fragile. Thus, it must be vigorously defended.
I was with him up to the 3 term part !
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 4:48:18pm |
re: #395 rawmuse
I think Notlob had a point, but was perhaps clumsy in word choice. Free nations are rare, and are not the normal human condition. The normal human condition is serfdom or even slavery. Freedom is precious, and fragile. Thus, it must be vigorously defended.
Well, yes, if that's what he had been saying. The reason we all piled on him is that he basically said that human rights happen when a nation is prosperous, when it's exactly the opposite.
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 4:48:39pm |
re: #393 unrealizedviewpoint
Absolutely not sure. The timing though. Another 1st post just after a first poster splits. hmmm.
Sorry stuiec,
I'm logging-off, tired, can't even see straight. What I thought said 1 post actually said 1 link posted.
G-Nite
/sorry stuiec
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ec marm Fri, May 9, 2008 4:49:03pm |
re: #393 unrealizedviewpoint
Absolutely not sure. The timing though. Another 1st post just after a first poster splits. hmmm.
Step away from the bar:
stuiecRegistered since: Nov 7, 2004 at 9:24 am
No. of comments posted: 894
No. of links posted: 1
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 4:50:47pm |
re: #400 unrealizedviewpoint
Sorry stuiec,
I'm logging-off, tired, can't even see straight. What I thought said 1 post actually said 1 link posted.G-Nite
/sorry stuiec
Hey, I did something like that not three hours after I hatched. The guy was a troll, but I misread the date he'd signed up on. I thought he was only a few days older than me, but the date was from last year.
Night!
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 4:52:48pm |
re: #402 Fat Jolly Penguin
Hey, I did something like that not three hours after I hatched. The guy was a troll, but I misread the date he'd signed up on. I thought he was only a few days older than me, but the date was from last year.
Night!
I recall that thread, the UK Misogynist thread. Right?
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Racer X Fri, May 9, 2008 4:53:38pm |
Are there no worthy trolls to debate?
They seem to show up, spout inane crap, then flame out in a huff.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, May 9, 2008 4:54:03pm |
re: #403 unrealizedviewpoint
I recall that thread, the UK Misogynist thread. Right?
I don't even remember anymore. After I was thumped for that mistake, I ran and didn't look back.
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unrealizedviewpoint Fri, May 9, 2008 4:55:45pm |
re: #405 Fat Jolly Penguin
I don't even remember anymore. After I was thumped for that mistake, I ran and didn't look back.
Remember Arkatan? He considered the rape of woman acceptable, a deserved practice.
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rawmuse Fri, May 9, 2008 4:55:47pm |
re: #398 sattv4u2
I think he left off the sarc tag on that one.
I dunno, you all can be a rough room :)
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akak Fri, May 9, 2008 4:57:05pm |
re: #404 Racer X
Are there no worthy trolls to debate?
They seem to show up, spout inane crap, then flame out in a huff.
ok I' ll bite
Did you see DebbieSclussel's RepubIslamipoliwhores post?
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VegasRick Fri, May 9, 2008 4:58:45pm |
re: #408 rawmuse
I think he left off the sarc tag on that one.
I dunno, you all can be a rough room :)
We asked for the / and he posted some dumb shit about LGF being dead.
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ArmyWife Fri, May 9, 2008 5:02:41pm |
re: #222 Occasional Reader
Sorry, Dianna. While I won't make predictions about Obama's electibilty of lack thereof, I will promise (threaten, more like it) this: We will be seeing Obama bumper stickers on Volvos for YEARS. In fact, ESPECIALLY if he loses... it'll be a way to show your "progressive" credentials.
Now wait just one minute. I drive a Volvo and am a very proud, gun clinging, card carryin' Republican.
Volvo Discrimination is not becoming.
/seriously, I do drive a Volvo.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, May 9, 2008 5:04:11pm |
re: #389 Fat Jolly Penguin
"F-J-P" -
Man has as yet to work through "TYRANNY and SLAVERY" they are the twin Devils of Mankind. Ha-Shem is still waiting on this 19th Day of the Omer - 4 Iyar 5768.
-S-
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joncelli Fri, May 9, 2008 5:08:04pm |
re: #72 alegrias
You know, you might not have meant to write "mentor" but that is an intriguing thought. What if we could convince Jimmah that the Obamination needs his advice on all matters large and small? How could BO's campaign resist the offer of help from a former president? Then JC would be himself and it would be downhill from there....anybody got Karl Rove's phone number?
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SouthAmericanWay Fri, May 9, 2008 5:12:54pm |
Well, well... another evidence that Obama is the Manchurian Candidate...
America, beware!
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sparrowlake Fri, May 9, 2008 5:17:10pm |
re: #404 Racer X
Are there no worthy trolls to debate?
They seem to show up, spout inane crap, then flame out in a huff.
Is that a shooting troll?
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Racer X Fri, May 9, 2008 5:17:26pm |
re: #409 akak
ok I' ll bite
Did you see DebbieSclussel's RepubIslamipoliwhores post?
No. Linkage?
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jcm Fri, May 9, 2008 5:18:00pm |
re: #417 sparrowlake
Is that a shooting troll?
Fizzling troll more like.
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SouthAmericanWay Fri, May 9, 2008 5:20:32pm |
re: #18 song_and_dance_man
And B. Hussein's former pastor and spiritual mentor met with Kadaffi.
Heck, he meets with Bill Ayers. It's a small world of HOPE and CHANGE after all.
/blockquote>Exactly, this is what is strange about Obama, the Manchurian Candidate. What is awkward about Obama is that in this small, very small, circle of friends and family around him there are so many vile connections, from terrorist Ayers to genocide-apologist Farrakhan.
So, in one month, a Hamas representative for North America endorses him - then, soon afterwards, a campaign worker is in touch with Hamas.
Someone somewhere in his campaign is in contact with the FARC - then, 8 months later, he denounced the Colombia Free Trade Act.
It is just too strange; he is just too comfortable with people who hate America. No wonder, then, that people who wish to talk and negotiate with terrorists agree to work for him.
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offendi Fri, May 9, 2008 5:56:06pm |
Comments about huge Jewish support for Obama are overstated. First the ballot box is private, many people may say they are voting for someone publicly do something different in private. Kerry would have won the election if it was based on exit polling data.
Second the Maverick can't be sullied with the usual Christian Coalition
libel that the dems use to scare Jewish voters. He has Joe Lieberman on his side, and wacky, anti-Israel Rev. Wright's videos are far more scary. Jews sense exactly the type of people Obama has had around him for a looooonng time as well. Plus it doesn't look good to a very family oriented ethnic group to so easily toss poor old grandma under the bus as a "typical white person " as B. Hussein has.
Listen, will I snark at Hillary she is the most likely dem candidate to get American Jewish support, Barry the Messiah ain't. The Clintons as detestable as they seem to many, are politically brilliant, they took the democratic party that hadn't elected a president in years out of the gutter. She is not staying in it for her health. And if you see how the MSM and usual left are hysterically trying to force her out now, they seem to know too that there may be another shoe that is going to drop on Barry the Messiah before November.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, May 9, 2008 6:26:52pm |
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Dr. Shalit Fri, May 9, 2008 6:30:34pm |
re: #421 offendi
offendi -
Considering the B.S. Coming From the Good Sen. Obama & His NJ State Minions.YEAH RIGHT! That is all.
-S-
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Dr. Shalit Fri, May 9, 2008 6:37:51pm |
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maninthemiddle Fri, May 9, 2008 6:47:14pm |
Once again, we see the ideology of the people with which Obama surrounds himself.
I thought him interesting in the beginning - though I thought he was 4-8 years early - but from his Marxist mentor in Hawaii until present time, a combination of political expediency - and I am beginning to believe closely guarded personal beliefs - has led him to seek out the farthest of the left, virulently anti-Israel, and most radical of racists.
No thank you.
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shanester Fri, May 9, 2008 6:49:55pm |
Wow. Every couple of days there's another "associate" of Obama that has some type of ties with terrorists, or is a terrorist (Ayers).
A pattern?
Imagine if McCain was "friendly" with someone who "used to" bomb abortion clinics and firebomb abortion doctor's homes. I think the reaction would be just... oh... slightly more severe. Ya think?
So, either Obama is at least a little sympathetic to the plight of murderes and terrorists, or he's the most gullible, clueless idiot ever to run for higher office (save for Carter).
Either way... NOT fit for the Senate, let along the Oval Office.
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shanester Fri, May 9, 2008 6:54:43pm |
I wonder if the Jewish population will still vote Democrat.
Can't imagine why, then again, I can't imagine why African-Americans vote for Democrats.
Let's see...
The Klan was an offshoot of the Demo party.
There's one former Grand Wizard in the Senate... a Demo.
Who blocked the Civil Rights Act of '64? Demos.
Bull Connor? ... Demo
Destruction of the family, especially the A-A family? Demos.
Who wants to KEEP people poor and dependent on Govt? Demos.
Pretty funny that the Democrats keep trying to make minority groups think they're victims, when it was them that was doing the victimizing.
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Jaydee Fri, May 9, 2008 7:03:53pm |
#421
they seem to know too that there may be another shoe that is going to drop on Barry the Messiah before November.
I do so hope you are right, because nobody appears to be listening (or wants to listen) and the man appears to be dangerously steamrolling ahead, so far!
Everything I read about Obama here in the UK, completely ignores all I have read about Obama on the web, its the most frustrating and strangiest thing I have witnessed for a very long time.
Someone been tampering with the water in the USA and the UK?
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average_guy Fri, May 9, 2008 7:10:31pm |
Reached for comment, Barack Obama said, “Can’t I just eat my waffle?”
Fixed that for ya....
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offendi Fri, May 9, 2008 7:40:28pm |
re: #423 Dr. Shalit
offendi -
Considering the B.S. Coming From the Good Sen. Obama & His NJ State Minions.YEAH RIGHT! That is all.
-S-
Take heart Dr. Shalit.
Support for Obama will be much weaker than that Clinton would have had from American Jewish voters. Obama and his associations are a real cause of concern. His "nice" speaking style is not enough to get over on Jewish voters as such an unknown and unproven candidate. McCain can make significant inroads.
Un-scientific poll conducted of 5 such people who know me well, 4 told me they are voting for McCain, the fifth, who is a little weird anyway, is voting for Obama. ALL 5 admitted they would have voted for Clinton if she was the candidate.
Obama got some troubles, coming if and when he finishes Billary.
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paul in va Fri, May 9, 2008 7:40:42pm |
That International Crisis Group "Ruling Palestine I: Gaza Under Hamas" sounds just like Obama/Dem/Carter talking points. What a waffler, dropping his fellow travelers from his campaign. Audacious!
"Ruling Palestine I: Gaza Under Hamas
Middle East Report N°73
19 March 2008EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND RECOMMENDATIONS
The policy of isolating Hamas and sanctioning Gaza is bankrupt and, by all conceivable measures, has backfired...
...But along with others, it (Israel) also is tiptoeing around another, wiser course that involves a mutual ceasefire, international efforts to prevent weapons smuggling and an opening of Gaza’s crossings and requires compromise by all concerned...
[Link: www.crisisgroup.org...]
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wanumba Fri, May 9, 2008 7:52:50pm |
From the link at Ace:
The International Crisis Group (Crisis Group) is an independent, non-profit, non-governmental organisation, with some 145 staff members on five continents, working through field-based analysis and high-level advocacy to prevent and resolve deadly conflict
1) This is the meme du jour of the Left, "Conflict Resolution." They love it and there are several of these "Groups" which are staffed with people who proudly trumpet their experience in , say Carter's Iranian hostage crisis mediating team or another fellow with "Cyprus" - in other words Democrats who actually thought they were accomplishing soemthing. The types who believed that Reagan got the credit for their hard work. Most peopel would not want to alert the world they had something to do with those fiascos.
2) Hamas is a "contact group too far." Since when do these groups try to usurp the authority of the US government - foreign negotiations?
3) They really do believe that all conflicts can be resolved by talk - just communciations misunderstandings. Dangerous meddlers whose egos are so big they can't see beyond them to the dangers.
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Miss Molly Fri, May 9, 2008 8:34:41pm |
Obama says on camera that he has been to 57 States and is going on to others. This is an example of a Harvard education?
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Ledger1 Sat, May 10, 2008 12:31:58am |
re: #347 don_in_ga
[Ace skewers Obama]
Now, I grant you that numbers higher than five are tricky. 47 states, 50 states, 57 states... who can distinguish between such vast numbers.
But I think a president should be able to tell the difference between one and two.
Of course he probably meant one state besides Alaska and Hawaii. Which I guess makes sense. With those three included, that accounts for all sixty states in America
-Ace
Altered States: Obamassiah Adds States To The Union 57 and counting
Obamassiah is an imbecile.
And, to think he made it through law school.
I am shaking my head in disgust.
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Challenger Sat, May 10, 2008 6:18:16am |
Well, Jimmah Carter got Hamas started with half of Lebanon. I suppose Barry's people can "encourage" them to get the other half as well.
/s
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Challenger Sat, May 10, 2008 6:21:38am |
Ops, should say Hizbulla, not Hamas. So many terrorists, so little time.
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AuntAcid Sat, May 10, 2008 11:00:22am |
"You say Obama,
I say Osama,
Let's call the whole thing off."
