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Mosque Refuses to Bury Cop Killer

Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:15:09 pm PDT

This is interesting; a mosque where Philadelphia cop killer Howard Cain might have developed that “prayer bump” on his forehead (by grinding it into the ground five times a day—it’s considered a mark of devotion) is now refusing to give him a funeral.

Good for them.

The leadership of the Germantown Masjid has refused to conduct funeral services for Howard Cain, the bank robber who killed Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski with a Chinese-made semi-automatic rifle.

“No, we will not bury him at Germantown Masjid,” said Tariq El Shabazz, managing director of the mosque. “We don’t want one slight scintilla hinting that we condone his behavior.”

On Sunday evening, a friend of Cain’s family asked if Cain’s burial could take place at the mosque on Germantown Avenue near Logan Street, El Shabazz said. El Shabazz declined to conduct the service after researching Islamic law and meeting with Saadiq Abdul Jabbar, chief executive of the mosque; Imam Talib Abdullah, and others.

“We don’t tolerate that kind of behavior,” El Shabazz said. “Their actions are not from Islam. You don’t dress like a woman, you don’t rob people or transgress against them or commit murder. On all three grounds, they are dead wrong.

”We are not saying that Muslims should not bury him, or that he should not have Janaza [funeral prayers],“ he added. ”He is a Muslim and he has that right, but we don’t want that here."

Previously at LGF:
Burqa Bandit in Philly?

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1 WrathofG-d  5/09/08 3:16:06 pm reply quote

I liked that Ice-T song....harumph!

But seriously.....way to go Mosque.

2 rawmuse  5/09/08 3:16:27 pm reply quote

Hope! Change!

3 jcm  5/09/08 3:17:08 pm reply quote

The Mosque is showing more sense than the Free Mumia bunch.

4 buzzsawmonkey  5/09/08 3:17:11 pm reply quote

Interesting, given that "El Shabazz" is an NOI made-up Muslim-like name.

5 FamHistoryGuy  5/09/08 3:17:15 pm reply quote

Somebody is at least aware of what bad PR is.

6 The Other Les  5/09/08 3:17:25 pm reply quote

"There! That should keep the Keffar off our backs!"

7 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/09/08 3:17:33 pm
8 Killgore Trout  5/09/08 3:17:49 pm reply quote

Good for them.

9 DeathtotheSwiss  5/09/08 3:18:24 pm reply quote

re: #2 rawmuse

Hope! Change!

We need more of this.

10 LoFlyer  5/09/08 3:18:34 pm reply quote

My hats off to this mosque! Maybe there really are some moderate Muslims besides CAIR!

11 Kreuzueber Halbmond  5/09/08 3:18:42 pm reply quote

Drink!

12 jcm  5/09/08 3:19:17 pm reply quote

re: #11 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Drink!

'bout damn time!

13 Silhouette  5/09/08 3:19:23 pm reply quote
“No, we will not bury him at Germantown Masjid,” said Tariq El Shabazz, managing director of the mosque. “We don’t want one slight scintilla hinting that we condone his behavior.”

Standing ovation.

Good on ya.

14 WrathofG-d  5/09/08 3:19:23 pm reply quote

Wonder if the LLL will notice how they came out against Crossdressing.

15 buzzsawmonkey  5/09/08 3:19:44 pm reply quote

re: #10 LoFlyer

My hats off to this mosque! Maybe there really are some moderate Muslims besides CAIR!

Or maybe they didn't want an irritated press looking into their other operations.

16 Dar ul Harbarian  5/09/08 3:20:10 pm reply quote

Maybe the morgue could do this with his body

17 Silhouette  5/09/08 3:20:40 pm reply quote

re: #14 WrathofG-d

Wonder if the LLL will notice how they came out against Crossdressing.

Maybe I was being kind to them, but I took that to mean you don't pretend to be what you are not.

Thou shalt not lie.

18 unrealizedviewpoint  5/09/08 3:21:19 pm reply quote

I suspect the main reason may be the dressing as a woman part. It is the first of the transgressions mentioned.

19 Kreuzueber Halbmond  5/09/08 3:21:21 pm reply quote
“Their actions are not from Islam. You don’t dress like a woman, you don’t rob people or transgress against them or commit murder

Now, tell that to the rest of the Muslim world.

20 roberth  5/09/08 3:21:22 pm reply quote

Good for them!

21 EC Marm  5/09/08 3:21:39 pm reply quote

Good for them. I saw the surveillance videotape the other day. Dressed like a woman is exactly right. A burka clad woman.

22 snowcrash  5/09/08 3:21:57 pm reply quote

Malcom X widow was Betty Shabazz. This is NOI?

23 wiley  5/09/08 3:22:02 pm reply quote

If this was Canada, there would be a human rights complaint there.

wiley

24 WrathofG-d  5/09/08 3:22:02 pm reply quote

re: #17 Silhouette

No, its the Commandment that Men should not wear the clothign of Women.

25 seekeroftruth  5/09/08 3:22:35 pm reply quote

Thanks for highlighting this Charles!

26 buzzsawmonkey  5/09/08 3:23:07 pm reply quote

re: #17 Silhouette

Thou shalt not lie.

OK. I like big butts, and I shall not lie.

27 Racer X  5/09/08 3:23:09 pm reply quote

OK with me if he gets fed to Wu's pigs.

28 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/09/08 3:24:07 pm
29 jcm  5/09/08 3:24:15 pm reply quote

Bobby Jindal on Hewitt.

Jindal '12

30 see bs  5/09/08 3:24:18 pm reply quote

The broken clock is right twice a day. Looks like finally a Muslim speaks up against committing murder....BUT... would he condemn him if it was in the name of allah?

Admiral Akbar!

31 EC Marm  5/09/08 3:24:53 pm reply quote

Where are my manners? Here's the surveillance video link. Burka clad one toward the end.

32 Dahveed  5/09/08 3:25:17 pm reply quote

re: #27 Racer X

OK with me if he gets fed to Wu's pigs.

May have to watch those DVDs tonite. Another good HBO show that is no longer on the air.

33 susanl  5/09/08 3:25:51 pm reply quote

re: #26 buzzsawmonkey

OK. I like big butts, and I shall not lie.

Glad you do. I heard from my husband last night how big mine is. He could have lived a lot longer without having said that (kidding) he isn't dead, just a bit lonely. :)

34 LoFlyer  5/09/08 3:26:32 pm reply quote

re: #15 buzzsawmonkey

Or maybe they didn't want an irritated press looking into their other operations.

I get your point, but has the Mosque ever been cited on fundamental Islamic extremism? I am getting the feeling that America has a huge capacity to absorb alien cultures and gain the best from them.... Not one organized terrorist attack in America since 911. We must be doing something right.....

35 Sand Panda  5/09/08 3:26:35 pm reply quote

re: #18 unrealizedviewpoint

I suspect the main reason may be the dressing as a woman part. It is the first of the transgressions mentioned.

Still, whatever your personal view on cross-dressing; credit where credit's due.

36 Sharmuta  5/09/08 3:28:02 pm reply quote
We don’t tolerate that kind of behavior,” El Shabazz said. “Their actions are not from Islam. You don’t dress like a woman, you don’t rob people or transgress against them or commit murder. On all three grounds, they are dead wrong.

We could really use more of this attitude from the ummah.

37 The Other Les  5/09/08 3:28:24 pm reply quote

Islam, deadlier than Communism?

However, at least 28 million Africans were enslaved in the Muslim Middle East. As at least 80% of those captured by Muslim slave traders were calculated to have died before reaching the slave markets, it is believed that the death toll from the 14 centuries of Muslim slave raids into Africa could have been over 112 million. When added to the number of those sold in the slave markets, the total number of African victims of the Trans Saharan and East African slave trade could be significantly higher than 140 million people.

38 WrathofG-d  5/09/08 3:28:50 pm reply quote

re: #35 Sand Panda

OT: Why the avatar of the krauts playing with the kitten?

39 Dayenu  5/09/08 3:28:52 pm reply quote

Hey!

As a transvestite, I take issue with the no-crossdressing rule

(Then again, as a Jew, I take issue with the whole kill-the-Jews and nuke-Israel, and establish a dictatorship over the world, but, you know. Crossdressing is fun, damnit...)

40 yochanan  5/09/08 3:29:00 pm reply quote

supporting a terrorist murder is bad P.R. if they do the murdering in america.

41 WrathofG-d  5/09/08 3:29:21 pm reply quote

re: #39 Dayenu


forget your sarc tag?

42 Sand Panda  5/09/08 3:29:49 pm reply quote

It wonderfully refreshing to hear of such small victories in the wake of so much depressing news.

/Huzzah for the Germantown Masjid!

43 Kreuzueber Halbmond  5/09/08 3:30:08 pm reply quote

This is good news, but not good enough for the flying pig to come out of the hangar.

44 Dayenu  5/09/08 3:30:18 pm reply quote

re: #41 WrathofG-d

I was sarcastic?

45 littleoldlady  5/09/08 3:30:22 pm reply quote

I think this is the same El Shabazz.

Quite a resumé.

46 jcm  5/09/08 3:30:46 pm reply quote

re: #37 The Other Les

Islam, deadlier than Communism?

14 centuries of Muslim ....
...trade could be significantly higher than 140 million people.

1 million per century for Islam.

Communism did that in 120-140 million in one century.

47 rawmuse  5/09/08 3:31:17 pm reply quote

re: #31 EC Marm

Where are my manners? Here's the surveillance video link. Burka clad one toward the end.

Prayers for the family of the slain officer. What a bunch of scum those guys are.

48 Sharmuta  5/09/08 3:31:21 pm reply quote

re: #37 The Other Les

I've often thought islam was/is deadlier than communism.

49 The Other Les  5/09/08 3:31:45 pm reply quote

re: #46 jcm

14 centuries of Muslim ....
...trade could be significantly higher than 140 million people.

1 million per century for Islam.

Communism did that in 120-140 million in one century.

10 million per century for Islam, so far.

50 jcm  5/09/08 3:32:21 pm reply quote

re: #49 The Other Les

10 million per century for Islam, so far.

10 -- thanks.

51 Dayenu  5/09/08 3:32:43 pm reply quote

re: #48 Sharmuta

Islam may have more staying power than Communism. It's terribly difficult to dislodge one it gets a hold on a population. Communist regimes can change, fortunately.

52 buzzsawmonkey  5/09/08 3:33:07 pm reply quote

re: #34 LoFlyer

I get your point, but has the Mosque ever been cited on fundamental Islamic extremism? I am getting the feeling that America has a huge capacity to absorb alien cultures and gain the best from them.... Not one organized terrorist attack in America since 911. We must be doing something right.....

I have no idea. I am, however, suspicious of any managing director of a mosque who has adopted the faux-Arabic "El Shabazz" name, which is a Nation of Islam moniker.

I will also point out that while the mosque "does not condone his behavior" after the fact, he apparently spent enough time there to get a nice prayer bruise on his forehead, which argues that the mosque may well have had plenty of time to not condone his behavior before he engaged in it.

I grant you that I am speaking without full knowledge of all potentially relevant facts. But from where I sit, this looks to have been an NOI "mosque," which means it was basically a halfway house for career criminals.

53 EC Marm  5/09/08 3:33:09 pm reply quote

re: #47 rawmuse

Prayers for the family of the slain officer. What a bunch of scum those guys are.


Amen. Such a shame, another widow now with three children.
I just noticed in that video from the movement of the camera lens that someone was tracking the burka clad dude as soon as she/he came through the door.

54 Sand Panda  5/09/08 3:33:37 pm reply quote

re: #38 WrathofG-d

OT: Why the avatar of the krauts playing with the kitten?

They're Germans? I stumbled across it on the internet and thought it was a cute photo, if a little different from the usual saccharine kitten fair.

55 surrounded  5/09/08 3:35:39 pm reply quote

Around here...we call that lump on the forehead "the mark of the unemployed".

56 Whiterasta  5/09/08 3:35:41 pm reply quote

A small step. In the right direction.

Well done.

Wait and see if they back off, due to soddomite funded radicals.

I hope not.

I have faith that there are muslims who will do the right thing at the end of the day.

57 Sharmuta  5/09/08 3:35:48 pm reply quote

re: #54 Sand Panda

You didn't catch the SS insignia on the collar?

58 The Other Les  5/09/08 3:35:53 pm reply quote

re: #54 Sand Panda

They're Germans? I stumbled across it on the internet and thought it was a cute photo, if a little different from the usual saccharine kitten fair.

They're frakking SS,.

59 Silhouette  5/09/08 3:35:58 pm reply quote

re: #54 Sand Panda

They're Germans? I stumbled across it on the internet and thought it was a cute photo, if a little different from the usual saccharine kitten fair.

Not just Germans, Nazis.

Maybe try this one instead.

60 Last Mohican  5/09/08 3:36:32 pm reply quote

Kudos to our friends at the Germantown Mosque!

But why do I have a sneaking feeling that (1) they're just as upset about the cross-dressing thing as the murder thing, (2) they're doing this more for PR value then principles, and (3) if this guy had killed a Jew in the name of Allah, they'd not only bury him but hold a parade in the street?

Oh well. Kudos nonetheless. Doing the right thing is doing the right thing, regardless of the reasons.

61 WrathofG-d  5/09/08 3:36:36 pm reply quote

re: #54 Sand Panda


OT:

if you look at the collar decoration of the soldier closest to the camera you will notice the SS lightning bolts. Thus not only are they German, they are Nazis; and not only are they Nazis, but they are SS.

Keep whatever picture you like as your avatar...but here is an alternative if you like soldiers and kittens.

62 snowcrash  5/09/08 3:36:47 pm reply quote

re: #52 buzzsawmonkey
Agree.

63 LoFlyer  5/09/08 3:36:48 pm reply quote

re: #49 The Other Les

10 million per century for Islam, so far.

Thats a hell of lot better than communism! Wait, did I really say killing 10 million a century is better? I am thinking like a liberal... Smack me down! Its for my own good!

64 Fat Jolly Penguin  5/09/08 3:38:02 pm reply quote

re: #63 LoFlyer

Thats a hell of lot better than communism! Wait, did I really say killing 10 million a century is better? I am thinking like a liberal... Smack me down! Its for my own good!

Otay.

65 surrounded  5/09/08 3:39:05 pm reply quote

Before you go giving the mosque too much credit. They would have to be INSANE to bury that cop murderer there. Picture the backlash for them. It is pure self preservation.

66 Sand Panda  5/09/08 3:39:23 pm reply quote

re: #57 Sharmuta

You didn't catch the SS insignia on the collar?

Ooh, is my face red. I honestly had no idea that the two (lightening bolts? Squiggly lines? meant SS). I'll change it ASAP, and I'm very sorry if I accidentally offended anybody.

/Oh well, the more you know...

67 VegasRick  5/09/08 3:41:17 pm reply quote

re: #61 WrathofG-d

OT:

if you look at the collar decoration of the soldier closest to the camera you will notice the SS lightning bolts. Thus not only are they German, they are Nazis; and not only are they Nazis, but they are SS.

Keep whatever picture you like as your avatar...but here is

68 unrealizedviewpoint  5/09/08 3:41:20 pm reply quote

Notlob or Nodrog wants to chat in thread behind us.

69 Sharmuta  5/09/08 3:41:22 pm reply quote

About the communism death toll versus the islam death toll-

commies had improved technology with which to account for their numbers, while islam, for centuries, had more primitive weapons. However- islam is now working at a quick pace to improve the technology gap, and could raise their death toll numbers with one or two bombs. iran- I'm looking at you.

70 LoFlyer  5/09/08 3:41:30 pm reply quote

re: #64 Fat Jolly Penguin

71 Sand Panda  5/09/08 3:42:16 pm reply quote

re: #61 WrathofG-d

re: #59 Silhouette

Thank you both for posting alternative avatar pics! However, I think I have the perfect one already, so sit tight while I re-size and upload it. :-)

/Still feeling very contrite...I am an utter idiot; please feel free to give me an e-Indian burn.

72 buzzsawmonkey  5/09/08 3:42:18 pm reply quote

re: #68 unrealizedviewpoint

Notlob or Nodrog wants to chat in thread behind us.

"Notlob" sounds like a giant spider from Lord of the Rings.

73 jcm  5/09/08 3:42:20 pm reply quote

re: #67 VegasRick

Is that IDF?

Looks Brit...

74 The Other Les  5/09/08 3:42:29 pm reply quote

re: #63 LoFlyer

Thats a hell of lot better than communism! Wait, did I really say killing 10 million a century is better? I am thinking like a liberal... Smack me down! Its for my own good!

Rolls up a ... wait a minute... i don't have any newspapers around here.

75 Killgore Trout  5/09/08 3:42:29 pm reply quote

Does wordpress have a feature to report blogs? Our nazi freind has a wordpress blog now and he's posting personal information of enemies of the white race.

76 WrathofG-d  5/09/08 3:42:43 pm reply quote

re: #66 Sand Panda

I wasn't offended...it reminded me of this Home Album from Aushchwitz

It takes normal human beings to do horribly evil things. Even Hitler loved his Mother.

77 WrathofG-d  5/09/08 3:43:01 pm reply quote

re: #67 VegasRick

Looks like it by the uniform.

78 Joan Not of Arc  5/09/08 3:43:03 pm reply quote

It's good to see a mosque take a decent stand. Maybe if we saw more of that....
As for militant Islam (for a lack of a better term), I'd say it is this century's new communism (not that in the last century people gave a rat's @$$ about those languishing in the Soviet Bloc or China). I don't have numbers rights now other than the eighty million Soviet communism killed and Mao's 70 million starved to death.

79 VegasRick  5/09/08 3:43:51 pm reply quote

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey

"Notlob" sounds like a giant spider from Lord of the Rings.

I knew it. I may be fairly new but I have the lizard smell sense.

80 Fat Jolly Penguin  5/09/08 3:43:52 pm reply quote

re: #68 unrealizedviewpoint

Notlob or Nodrog wants to chat in thread behind us.

Yep -- blathering on about how "Freedom and liberty are not human rights; they are oddities of prosperous civilizations."

81 Ringo the Gringo  5/09/08 3:44:02 pm reply quote

re: #75 Killgore Trout

Does wordpress have a feature to report blogs? Our nazi freind has a wordpress blog now and he's posting personal information of enemies of the white race.

Who are you talking about Killgore?

82 EC Marm  5/09/08 3:44:22 pm reply quote

Some other background I can give on this story as it has been big on local news:
The police unapologetically, from the very beginning referred to the killers as being dressed in "muslim garb."
The next day, they (police spokesman) made a statement to the effect that they weren't really muslim, but cold blooded killers.

83 seekeroftruth  5/09/08 3:44:36 pm reply quote

re: #65 surrounded

I disagree. I think it's time to give credit where credit is due.

84 LoFlyer  5/09/08 3:44:37 pm reply quote

re: #74 The Other Les

Rolls up a ... wait a minute... i don't have any newspapers around here.

A broom stick or a axehandle will do nicely!

85 VegasRick  5/09/08 3:44:37 pm reply quote

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey

"Notlob" sounds like a giant spider from Lord of the Rings.

I'm going back.

86 The Other Les  5/09/08 3:45:22 pm reply quote

re: #79 VegasRick

I knew it. I may be fairly new but I have the lizard smell sense.

I think "Notlob" is a Monty Python reference.

87 Killgore Trout  5/09/08 3:45:29 pm reply quote

re: #81 Ringo the Gringo

He was harassing Charles a few weeks back, we had a thread or two about it.

88 unrealizedviewpoint  5/09/08 3:45:47 pm reply quote

re: #80 Fat Jolly Penguin

Yep -- blathering on about how "Freedom and liberty are not human rights; they are oddities of prosperous civilizations."

It's all unintelligible blather. I'm supposed to respond to him?

89 Fat Jolly Penguin  5/09/08 3:46:04 pm reply quote

re: #70 LoFlyer

Man, thats a really big hammer. I keep a claw hammer on one of shelves, my first excuse was to beat idiots over the head, later I found it worked great removing APC UPS batteries glued to the battery tray. My co-workers borrow it alot for various cheres......

Looks like we'll have a chance to use it too -- we've got a bit of a stench downstairs.

90 Spiny Norman  5/09/08 3:46:12 pm reply quote

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey

re: #68 unrealizedviewpoint
Notlob or Nodrog wants to chat in thread behind us.

"Notlob" sounds like a giant spider from Lord of the Rings.

"Notlob" is actually from the Monty Python "Dead Parrot sketch".

91 Vinnie  5/09/08 3:46:16 pm reply quote

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey

Just to show my absolute Nerd Cred, the name of the spider in LOTR was Shelob.

92 The Other Les  5/09/08 3:46:31 pm reply quote

re: #80 Fat Jolly Penguin

Yep -- blathering on about how "Freedom and liberty are not human rights; they are oddities of prosperous civilizations."

I would have said a prerequisite of a prosperous civilization.

93 Fat Jolly Penguin  5/09/08 3:46:48 pm reply quote

re: #92 The Other Les

I would have said a prerequisite of a prosperous civilization.

That's exactly what I told him.

94 buzzsawmonkey  5/09/08 3:46:56 pm reply quote

re: #91 Vinnie

Just to show my absolute Nerd Cred, the name of the spider in LOTR was Shelob.

I know that. That's why I made the crack in the first place.

95 EC Marm  5/09/08 3:47:07 pm reply quote

re: #75 Killgore Trout

Does wordpress have a feature to report blogs? Our nazi freind has a wordpress blog now and he's posting personal information of enemies of the white race.


If you have a WordPress blog or registered you can report as 'spam' or 'mature' and add a comment. You'd have to give me the url for me to do it if you don't have an account. They usually are pretty good about taking down reported sites.

96 jcm  5/09/08 3:47:10 pm reply quote

re: #86 The Other Les

I think "Notlob" is a Monty Python reference.

It posted the reference, there is a well known troll known by it palindrome which also begins with an N.

97 LoFlyer  5/09/08 3:47:15 pm reply quote

re: #86 The Other Les

I think "Notlob" is a Monty Python reference.

Or it could be Bolton spelled backwards, one of my favorite UN reps.. Damn the Democrats for not confirming him!

98 The Other Les  5/09/08 3:47:46 pm reply quote

re: #84 LoFlyer

A broom stick or a axehandle will do nicely!

I have a three cell Mag Light.

99 Ringo the Gringo  5/09/08 3:48:39 pm reply quote

re: #87 Killgore Trout

Oh, him.

I thought you talking about something from today that I missed.

100 DownRightMeanAmerican  5/09/08 3:48:40 pm reply quote
El Shabazz declined to conduct the service after researching Islamic law and meeting with Saadiq Abdul Jabbar, chief executive of the mosque; Imam Talib Abdullah, and others.

Read: he couldn’t recall the Islamic loophole right off the top of his head, he had to look it up. And as it turned out in this case, the victim was not a full fledged infidel worthy of Islamic wraith for spreading mischief and naked womens.

101 mikalm  5/09/08 3:48:48 pm reply quote

Another small step in the right direction. Many thanks to the leaders of this mosque for not honoring this dirtbag with a funeral service. Decent, ethical Muslims like them, willing to stand for what's right, are in too short supply when it comes to the violent doings of their coreligionists.

102 Thanos  5/09/08 3:50:17 pm reply quote

re: #75 Killgore Trout

Does wordpress have a feature to report blogs? Our nazi freind has a wordpress blog now and he's posting personal information of enemies of the white race.

If it's Wordpress.com you can email Matt, send me a link

103 rawmuse  5/09/08 3:50:36 pm reply quote

re: #75 Killgore Trout

They have a "contact us" box.

104 LoFlyer  5/09/08 3:50:36 pm reply quote

re: #98 The Other Les

I have a three cell Mag Light.

Remind me not to make you mad! All I have is small and powerful LCD light. You have me beat....

105 abolitionist  5/09/08 3:50:41 pm reply quote

re: #4 buzzsawmonkey

Interesting, given that "El Shabazz" is an NOI made-up Muslim-like name.

It was the made-up name for Malcolm Little, before he left NOI and chose to call himself Malcolm-X. Popularity of the name is because of him. Current head of NBPP is Malik Zulu Shabazz.

106 Spiny Norman  5/09/08 3:51:02 pm reply quote

re: #96 jcm

It posted the reference, there is a well known troll known by it palindrome which also begins with an N.

If we name him three times, does he appear, despite bannination?

107 Killgore Trout  5/09/08 3:51:11 pm reply quote

re: #95 EC Marm

Search "O v e r t h r o w" on wordpress and it should come up. He has at least two posts up requesting direct action against individuals.

108 EC Marm  5/09/08 3:51:35 pm reply quote

re: #107 Killgore Trout
Okay, will do.

109 DownRightMeanAmerican  5/09/08 3:51:44 pm reply quote

re: #101 mikalm

”We are not saying that Muslims should not bury him, or that he should not have Janaza [funeral prayers],“ he added. ”He is a Muslim and he has that right, but we don’t want that here."

Read: Its just bad PR, otherwise we would do it.

110 nikis-knight  5/09/08 3:51:59 pm reply quote

That's good! The test is if he actually commited crimes in the name of Islam, rather than common thuggery, would they refuse him. Hopefully, yes.

111 Oingo Boingo  5/09/08 3:52:32 pm reply quote

There HAS to be a pig farm around somewhere that would take him.

112 The Other Les  5/09/08 3:52:35 pm reply quote

re: #104 LoFlyer

Remind me not to make you mad! All I have is small and powerful LCD light. You have me beat....

You did ask for it.

113 jcm  5/09/08 3:53:20 pm reply quote

re: #106 Spiny Norman

If we name him three times, does he appear, despite bannination?

Not willing to tempt fate....

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