...so why not double down?

I'm in.

McCain sucks big time!

/there, that ought to save about 100 comments

I'm not watching, either.

Do you think BO will interupt him 6000 times like he did last night?

Well I don't think this thread has good karma. You put it up so I turned to FOX and what do I see, but Geraldo with O'Reilly. Do they want to insure that no one will see McCain?

re: #6 savage_nation

Texas Hold-em or Omaha?

Hey Savage! What's up friend?

3-2 Pittsburg, 1st intermission.

re: #6 savage_nation

Hold 'em. I don't have the attention span for Oma- Oh, look! A Squirrel!

re: #11 song_and_dance_man

Heraldo Revolver has changed the look of his stache.

He who draws war plans in the sand.

re: #12 song_and_dance_man

The Laker game starts at 7.

The Shaggy Dog is on Disney right now.

re: #15 song_and_dance_man

He got the ban stick for that.

He should have got the short rope off the long drop.

re: #11 song_and_dance_man

Heraldo Revolver has changed the look of his stache.

Does he look like a walrus?

"I don't like him so I will not vote"

He said poutingly.

re: #12 song_and_dance_man

The Laker game starts at 7.

Thanx for the heads-up ;-)...

You'd have to pay me to watch the Leprechaun on an average night. With McCain on the show-twice as much.

re: #5 VegasRick

Do you think BO will interupt him 6000 times like he did last night?

Do we think?
That's what O'Reilly DOES! He has a "show" which is all about Bill O'Reilly, a monologue with a "guest" who is allowed to sit there and look pretty and maybe get in a few words, while Mr. Bill bends his fingers off counting down his own talking points.

_{/ why I don't watch BO}

re: #18 savage_nation

Not bad, not bad. My daughter is exactly half way along now to having her child.

I bought her and her mom and my mom Mother's Day cards. If she gives me a weird look, I'll tell her she better start getting used to it. :D

I've got one on the way as well. Dammit! I'm too young to be a grandpa! lol!

re: #3 Killian Bundy

McCain sucks big time!

/there, that ought to save about 100 comments

Maybe so, but four Obama years are far more dangerous to America than four McCain years.

Vote with a clip on your nose?

Hanna Montana?
Half-neked 15 year olds.
Does FNC really have to go there?

re: #27 savage_nation

Oh, you too? Cheers!

DRINK!

Soon enough (I'm still @ work).

I got nothing pithy so.

Hi everybody:)

re: #31 x-ray

I got nothing pithy so.

Hi everybody:)

Bill will bloviate for you.

re: #3 Killian Bundy

McCain sucks big time!

/there, that ought to save about 100 comments

I disagree. That should add about 200 comments.

re: #28 vascaino4

Vote with a clip on your nose?

/for the judges, Obama will nominate one of the Clintons to the Supreme Court

re: #32 savage_nation

Is your son or your daughter the new parent?

Daughter, just turned 22.

re: #29 EC Marm

Hanna Montana?
Half-neked 15 year olds.
Does FNC really have to go there?

It's an O'Reilly obsession apparently. Creepy.

Change!

(Boy am I gonna catch hell for that!)

re: #38 savage_nation

Since your in Vegas, what are your thoughts on this judge of yours?

She is a raving lunatic. Have you ever seen any pics of her?

Someone should put together a google earth demo zooming in on ANWR and show just how tiny drilling for oil would be there.

re: #29 EC Marm

Hanna Montana?
Half-neked 15 year olds.
Does FNC really have to go there?

And that is really classy to have on right before McCain.

re: #33 VegasRick

Damm Skippy on that.

re: #34 song_and_dance_man

None taken.

re: #44 savage_nation

True dat.

re: #46 savage_nation

Can it wait till I finish dinner? I'm visualizing Rosie in robes

Got it big boy. Read em and weep!

[Link: www.google.com...]

McCain would be a great candidate for the dims. Let's give him to them and re-run the republican primaries.

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last night’s first installment wasn’t exactly our most popular political thread ever

Perhaps it's because people tend not to like mavericky blowhards.

Shit he is talking anti- torture- well back to the Yankee game.

re: #53 Sharmuta

Perhaps it's because people tend not to like mavericky blowhards.

Yep, basically all I heard was Blah..blah..blah..no drilling ANWR..blah..blah..

re: #56 savage_nation

Crap, ya made me look. Rosie is a hottie compared to that Jabba the Hut wannabe. ewwww

LOLOLOLOLOL!

Respect Geneva convention to prevent soliers from being tortured? Terrorists will torture american soldiers even if Gitmo becomes Disneyland.

re: #46 savage_nation

Can it wait till I finish dinner? I'm visualizing Rosie in robes

Rosie's a twig compared to Halverson.

re: #61 song_and_dance_man

The Geneva Convention only works for us the Islamists and not us since they piss on the Geneva Convention.

I thought it is us who piss on the Koran. Shit I am confused?

re: #62 sngnsgt

Rosie's a twig compared to Halverson.

Rosie's a twpig and so is Halverson

A co-worker of mine is John McCain. No, I'm not in the Senate, nor do I have a wide stance.

But they (McCain and he) are- by their movements, mannerisms, voice cadence, etc.- the same two people.

Spooky.

Plus, my co-worker is a drooling moonbat.

Scary, huh?

re: #52 MandyManners
Considering your record, maybe you could do that for Obama?

re: #36 Killian Bundy

/for the judges, Obama will nominate one of the Clintons to the Supreme Court.

Not the disbarred one, I hope. Not even Obama can be that naive, can he?

Hopefully Bill lets McCain answer the got damn question. Great line on protecting against another Holocaust. Its insane McCain can win this election. I'm not even that upset hes the candidate.

re: #61 song_and_dance_man

The Geneva Convention only works for us the Islamists and not us since they piss on the Geneva Convention.

They piss on all "man-made" laws.

Their laws are on the other hand made by the human equivalent of anti-matter.

I tired of O'Reilly, Geraldo doesn't help his case. Both of them hugely flawed and both trying to advocate moral positions for everyone else.

o'reilly is big on trying to make young people feel guilty for "mistakes!" that don't fit the norm and telling them society will shun them. IMO he pays off his mistakes to hide them.

Geraldo is just a fabricator. He thinks no one wants to work in a packing plant so immigrants have to do it to save all the rest of us. False. worked in a packing plant and it was a good paying job. Until the company built a closed compound for cheap Mexican labor and imported them with the purpsose of breaking the union and lowering wages. Thanks Armand Hammer. Geraldo never really knows the depth of his topic. He wants quick air time.

re: #64 Nevergiveup

I thought it is us who piss on the Koran. Shit I am confused?

I would never defile my own urine by...

"chaos, genocide, a larger war later." The price of capitulation. This is not hard to understand. It is hard to sell. McCain is to be supported on this stand alone. I do hope it is not the hill he dies on, and I do certainly respect his determination to take the hill.

The geneva convention only applies to soldiers in uniform. Don't wear a uniform you get no legal protections.

That's it?

/the commercial breaks are longer

re: #43 freedomplow

Someone should put together a google earth demo zooming in on ANWR and show just how tiny drilling for oil would be there.

Has been described as the size of a dime on a 9'X12' rug.

re: #51 jetprop

McCain would be a great candidate for the dims. Let's give him to them and re-run the republican primaries.

yes, remember when the dems used to have relatively good candidates like him. (for a dem of course) they have fallen so far. ie kerry, edwards, osama , algore. weakling appeasers.

Previously unseen posters continue to appear in the Expelled thread. It's remarkable.

re: #49 VegasRick

Got it big boy. Read em and weep!

[Link: www.google.com...]

Holy macaroni!

/Or should that be holy macaroni, chips, jam donuts, burgers, cake, ice cream, crisps and pizza with lashing of custard and hot fudge sauce?

re: #86 Charles

Previously unseen posters continue to appear in the Expelled thread. It's remarkable.

How long before comments closes on that thread?

McCain is expected to disappoint us on all fronts, but when did that old bastard ever do what we expected?

re: #66 VegasRick

Rosie's a twpig and so is Halverson

Okay, one's a pig, one's a twig, take your pick, both are stark-raving moonbats.

re: #87 Sand Panda

Holy macaroni!

/Or should that be holy macaroni, chips, jam donuts, burgers, cake, ice cream, crisps and pizza with lashing of custard and hot fudge sauce?

Blessed is the food, for it will filleth me. (Materially, that is.)

re: #75 hazzyday

I used to enjoy his program, but now I think bill o is just a big bully.

re: #87 Sand Panda

Holy macaroni!

/Or should that be holy macaroni, chips, jam donuts, burgers, cake, ice cream, crisps and pizza with lashing of custard and hot fudge sauce?

The famous Las Vegas buffets have not been kind to her and she is accused of putting a few smaller casinos that offer a buffet out of business.

I'm not watching it tonight - have better things to do. Last night was a disappointment. My husband doesn't agree with me, but I have this sinking feeling that he's going the way of Bob Dole. Was disgusted at how pc he is. His views on Anwr are ridiculous, but he has no problem drilling offshore. You'd think our politicians want us paying 6$ a gallon for gas.

re: #89 taxfreekiller

Charles, the solution is to expel the thread.

Actually I'm curious as to how long new comments will appear on it.

Let's argue about evolution instead.

What was up with all those cuts and edits when McCain was talking about Pakistan? Anyone else notice that?

re: #61 song_and_dance_man

The Geneva Convention only works for us the Islamists and not us since they piss on the Geneva Convention.

he's not the one to make the choice on torture. he's not able to think clearly abt. the subject. obviously too scarred to be objective.

re: #86 Charles

Previously unseen posters continue to appear in the Expelled thread. It's remarkable.

Quite the honeypot you've got in that thread... Attracting all sorts.

“I would rather be right than President.” ~ Senator Henry Clay (1777-1852)

n.b. : He was right about one thing, at least. He got what he wished for - he never became President ...

There is something odd going on with McCain's medical records. Their release has been put off time and again. I have a hunch something is being treated that they don't want to disclose until it is "successfully treated".

re: #86 Charles

Are they that patient or can they create multiple identities a window is open?
More of a geek question if you automatically see multiple registrations from a single point or if to weeding it out it's just more efficient to whack them later.

re: #102 Charles

What was up with all those cuts and edits when McCain was talking about Pakistan? Anyone else notice that?

I'm not watching, I got burned out trying to defend him against the "I ain't votin' this year" crowd.

OT:
Looks like Maliki knew more about the situation in Iraq than the pundits who thought that Sadr won in Basra and was about to win again in Sadr City.

re: #102 Charles

The whole thing was edited to death- cut and pasted sound bites.

re: #83 nyc redneck

yes, remember when the dems used to have relatively good candidates like him. (for a dem of course) they have fallen so far. ie kerry, edwards, osama , algore. weakling appeasers.

If he was running as a dem and we had a true conservative, I'd feel less squeamish. Now all we have is left, left, and lefter.

re: #92 maddogg

McCain is expected to disappoint us on all fronts, but when did that old bastard ever do what we expected?

One should not project one's expectations on any political candidate. Politicians are......politicians.

/Chauncy Gardner

re: #86 Charles

Previously unseen posters continue to appear in the Expelled thread. It's remarkable.

Please stay on topic until the comments pass 100.

Heh... I love living dangerously!

re: #112 lawhawk

OT:
Looks like Maliki knew more about the situation in Iraq than the pundits who thought that Sadr won in Basra and was about to win again in Sadr City.

Man, thats the best news, maybe the only good news, I heard all week. Thanks.

re: #57 jetprop

Et tu, McCain?

Dang, Dang, Dang! You blasted politicians stop pandering to the @#$% environmentalists, grow a pair, man-up and let's solve the energy problem by actually going after some.

/McCain, poking his finger in conservatives' eyes for 12 years

re: #104 lawhawk

I'm quite sure the Discovery Institute is aware of the discussions at LGF.

re: #102 Charles

What was up with all those cuts and edits when McCain was talking about Pakistan? Anyone else notice that?

they did the same thing last night.. It was weird as shit.

re: #96 VegasRick

The famous Las Vegas buffets have not been kind to her and she is accused of putting a few smaller casinos that offer a buffet out of business.

I had no idea that Vegas was famous for its buffets. All I know is that I'd hate to be the owner watching that gastropod heave themselves into my establishment!

/Eeek!

re: #106 Q-Burn

There is something odd going on with McCain's medical records. Their release has been put off time and again. I have a hunch something is being treated that they don't want to disclose until it is "successfully treated".

Could be.
But as I recall, Bill Clinton never released his. The rumor was that he had some plastic surgery....or an STD....or other things a mild-mannered lady cannot speak of.

Didn't notice any editing with Hillary, this one was butchered.

re: #118 AZfederalist

Dang, Dang, Dang! You blasted politicians stop pandering to the @#$% environmentalists, grow a pair, man-up and let's solve the energy problem by actually going after some.

Quoted for Damn skippy.

Yeah, watched yesterday and was particularly un-happy with the anti- Anwar drilling ect. Not too happy either that he is refusing, so far, to fight back. That being said, and I know I am going to catch hell for this, I am still going to hold my nose and vote for him. The idea of Obama as POTUS, and in charge of picking two maybe three Supreme Court justices terrifies me. If the type of socialists judges he said he will pick get in you can't get rid of them. Too dangerous for me to think, after four years Conservatives can take over. The damage done will be too great. I can't take that chance. Oh, lets not forget his National Security ideas..............

re: #119 Charles

Heh^tm

With the exception of budgeting and security there is nothing attractive about this dolt.

re: #128 pat

With the exception of budgeting and security there is nothing attractive about this dolt.

Ah, but the thing is that there is even more "nothing attractive" about his rivals.

We keep talking about the presidential race but the more important arms of the Government are the Senate and the Congress. They write the crap the Pres can sign into law.

re: #128 pat

With the exception of budgeting and security there is nothing attractive about this dolt.

Could be worse.

Could be raining ...

/duck!

re: #128 pat

With the exception of budgeting and security there is nothing attractive about this dolt.

Except that he's never seen a tax hike he didn't like, he voted against the Bush tax cuts (twice, IIRC) and he's a proponent of open boarders.
Oh well.

re: #126 song_and_dance_man

I was thinking the same thing. But you can't blame him for not wanting what he went through being brought to bear on another. However, the Islamists will do more and worse to innocents who are not soldiers. Heck, they blow up their own children and teach their very young to kill and maim. Yet, as the POTUS he must consider this and leave his personal experience aside for the good of the many.

precisely.

re: #130 x-ray

We keep talking about the presidential race but the more important arms of the Government are the Senate and the Congress. They write the crap the Pres can sign into law.

Maybe, but the President conducts Foreign Policy ( memo to Pelosi ),is the Commander in Chief, and takes us to War. Enough said.

X-Ray exactly. With the prospect of re-taking Congress this year nil, that gives a Dhimmi POTUS, carte-blanche to push through all those socialist programs they have been dreaming about. Another reason to hold nose and vote McCain.

re: #131 Temujin

Could be worse.

Could be raining ...

/duck!

Worse, it could be sn*wing!
(Self-sensor)

How will McCain handle Hugo?

CARACAS, Venezuela - President Hugo Chavez says Venezuela will not tolerate a movement for secession in Bolivia's eastern lowland states. Chavez says his government has not meddled in the domestic affairs of other Latin American nations, but would if Bolivian states now seeking greater autonomy from Bolivia's central government push for total independence.

SNIP

re: #60 vascaino4

There's no problem with torture, not when they cut your head off. You can only torture a live man/woman.

re: #128 pat

With the exception of budgeting and security there is nothing attractive about this dolt.

Hmmmmmmmmm...our tax dollars and our lives....

WTF is the problem?

re: #130 x-ray

Both are important. As I was commenting on Sirius radio tonight, the President gets to nominate for the Supreme Court, and that's a pretty big deal. It still has to get through Congress, but if you've got a D as President, you're going to end up with a lefty nominee without doubt. If McCain wins, you're much more likely to end up with a nominee who holds at least some conservative credentials- unless they're stealth candidates like Souter. Even Kennedy was nominated by Reagan, and has turned into the swing vote after O'Connor (another Reagan nominee) retired as the key swing vote.

Holding on to the seats the GOP has is critical, but with stupidity reigning, no way to know that will happen.

OT, and I apologize.

Has anyone heard from valenina in Lebanon? Is she okay?

re: #137 MandyManners

How will McCain handle Hugo?

CARACAS, Venezuela - President Hugo Chavez says Venezuela will not tolerate a movement for secession in Bolivia's eastern lowland states. Chavez says his government has not meddled in the domestic affairs of other Latin American nations, but would if Bolivian states now seeking greater autonomy from Bolivia's central government push for total independence.

SNIP

Hasn't meddled in domestic affairs of other nations? Colombia would beg to differ, and has the proof - as evidenced by the FARC laptops.

re: #140 lawhawk

sorry i missed the show but i only get the music stations on sirius. :(
how did it go?

re: #139 MandyManners

Hmmmmmmmmm...our tax dollars and our lives....

WTF is the problem?

Your point is taken and understood, Mandy.

If McCain has kept quiet about some malady that will make him unelectable....I will be furious - I would not put it past him

re: #116 AmeriDan

Please stay on topic until the comments pass 100.

Heh... I love living dangerously!

Aw, come on. That was funny.

re: #143 lawhawk

Hasn't meddled in domestic affairs of other nations? Colombia would beg to differ, and has the proof - as evidenced by the FARC laptops.

The more hot spots there are in the world, the better it will be for a McCain victory in November. Not that I am hoping for turmoil in the world, just I think more people would be hesitant to put a neophyte like Obama in power under those circumstances.

Killgore, exactly. The man keeps promises only to Dems. He will turn on those issues also, in some unpredictable, but devastating fashion.

re: #90 song_and_dance_man

In LGF history it will be called The Expelled Threads and Sock Rebellion.

LOL - what a mind....

re: #144 nyc redneck

Not bad. We talked about qualifications to sit on the court and the Vito Fossella mess.

134 and 135 show the importance of the Presidential race my point was let us not ignore the other power we still have if the wrong President is chosen. If one can't pull the lever for McCain still go vote for the rest of the ticket.

Ask Obama what he would do with this junta starving it's people - twiddle his thumbs, I'm sure, UN is doing that now.

Send in Blackwater

re: #128 pat

With the exception of budgeting and security there is nothing attractive about this dolt.

Said "dolt" has suffered and served his country beyond your or my imaginings.

Anwar is a political flash point and solves nothing. This makes McCain not a "dolt".

The "dolt" McCain was smart enough to recognize and acknowledge that comprehensive immigration reform was impossible without border security first.

The "dolt" has been very consistent on core conservative principles for a very long time and under very public scrutiny. Too bad he pisses people off. Doesn't bother me. I like a wise ass. Why else would I frequent this site.

re: #146 DistantThunder

If McCain has kept quiet about some malady that will make him unelectable....I will be furious - I would not put it past him

Well, we are not allowed to talk about Obama's ears anymore.

/obama hears everything

re: #141 song_and_dance_man

I'm still barely luke warm on him.

Just my sense but the loofah man seemed to be more enamored of the lady candidate.

As for Maverick, it seems to me he is really going to have to get pissed off to be moderately effective.

re: #125 nigella

Yeah, that's what really galls me. I'm going to have to vote for him because at least the damage *he* will do to the country can be un-done. It may take a while, but it will be recoverable. Obama or Hillary? The damage they do will be lasting and may be irreversible.

re: #143 lawhawk

Hasn't meddled in domestic affairs of other nations? Colombia would beg to differ, and has the proof - as evidenced by the FARC laptops.

But, how will McCain handle Chavez?

Vomit and Vote - this will be really hard for me because I think that McCain is disingenuous.

re: #49 VegasRick

Got it big boy. Read em and weep!

[Link: www.google.com...]

Rick, I'd prefer this judge of ya'll's....

[Link: www.daylife.com...]

re: #151 lawhawk

Not bad. We talked about qualifications to sit on the court and the Vito Fossella mess.

I hated it when Vito turned on the Corleone family.

Speaking of Obama's ears, I guess McGovern called Obama the second Lincoln. One of the people on the blog I read it on agreed saying both Lincoln and Obama have big ears and crazy wives.... Just a little levity .

re: #148 Nevergiveup

Ancient Chinese proverb time 'eh? Sorry, but none of that matters to the Obamaics... those that end up voting, that is. Most don't care about foreign policy and what is going on in kreplachistan. They see slogans of hope and change that's that.

Of course, someone else pointed out (can't remember who) - but Obama's pretty much setting up a McGovernite coalition - which could result in major loss in November. He's banking on youth vote (never a good idea - heck, Obama girl couldn't be bothered to vote for Obama in the primary). Democrats who aren't African American didn't vote for him. Hispanics didn't vote for him. He didn't win the big electoral college states. And yet, the media is going to anoint him as the nominee and will do all they can to ensure a November win.

I think the truth will be a harsh mistress. Of course, McCain isn't a prize, but he's a league better than either Obama or Hillary.

re: #139 MandyManners

IIRC, in early drafts of the Declaration, Thomas Jefferson used "life, liberty and property" instead of the more familiar "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. So. "...our tax dollars and our lives.... WTF is the problem?"

Well, if we've got our money & our life covered - what's left ?

re: #151 lawhawk

Not bad. We talked about qualifications to sit on the court and the Vito Fossella mess.

the staten island guy (republican) w/ 2 families? unbelievable.

re: #149 pat

He will turn on those issues also, in some unpredictable, but devastating fashion.

I consider it very predictable. Say what you will about him but he's going to do what he feels is right regardless of party politics. They don't call him Maverick for nothing. We know where he stands on the Bush tax cuts despite his promises to keep them. He's for open boarders and the boarder will remain open if he's elected. I think it's all very predictable.

There have been elections where no one showed up at the polls. lol

From Commentary:

What does the crisis in Lebanon teach us about Hezbollah? It teaches us the same lesson we learned from Hamas when it took Gaza: Islamic supremacist groups, despite their claims to the contrary, cannot be integrated into states or democratic political systems.

Yep.

re: #166 nyc redneck

Yeah, the families values candidate.

re: #168 pat

I think Republican turn out is going to be very low. That's a big problem running against Obama.

re: #160 DistantThunder

Vomit and Vote - this will be really hard for me because I think that McCain is disingenuous.

well, he is disingenuous but he's certainly not as disingenuous as the guy w/ the middle name we can not speak. nor is he as dangerous.

WE need to rise up and fight, Lebannon is falling, Iran is on the march - the Democrats will not protect our country.

re: #164 lawhawk

The Obamiacs can't elect a President. And like you said all the other demographic groups are against Obama. A little overseas turmoil never hurt.

re: #147 AmeriDan

Yes it was.

re: #176 jainphx

Yes it was.

Thank you.

re: #174 DistantThunder

WE need to rise up and fight, Lebannon is falling, Iran is on the march - the Democrats will not protect our country.

No, no. They have the right idea - healthcare, confiscatory taxation, social security and the environment are much more pressing issues...

//

LGF is on McCain's blogroll. I wonder if they're going to cut off Hot Air after Allahpundit endorsed Hillary earlier today.

re: #178 taxfreekiller

.tlod a si niaCcM

%u026F%u0254%u0254%u0250%u0131u %u0131s %u0250 pol%u0287?

I amd getting familiar vibe from the Dems....oh yes...that James Earl Carter Feeling.....

don't they ever learn?

re: #172 Killgore Trout

I think Republican turn out is going to be very low. That's a big problem running against Obama.

People will wake up on a cold November day and say to themselves, shall I go vote today? My guess is that they will. You think the folks know Obama now? Just wait. There will be voting. Lots of it.

re: #180 Killgore Trout

LGF is on McCain's blogroll. I wonder if they're going to cut off Hot Air after Allahpundit endorsed Hillary earlier today.

I was not aware of that.

Wow, there's a death wish, eh?

re: #178 taxfreekiller

.tlod a si niaCcM

Ighty-ray On-ay, O-bray !

Can I still call McCain "the old glue horse" if I promise to vote for him? Still laughing at that one from last night.

re #180
Andrew Sullivan is on McCain's blogroll too. Isn't he an Obama supporter?

re: #179 Cartman

No, no. They have the right idea - healthcare, confiscatory taxation, social security and the environment are much more pressing issues...

//

Don't forget abortion!

re: #188 Killgore Trout

re #180
Andrew Sullivan is on McCain's blogroll too. Isn't he an Obama supporter?

Reaching across the aisle, I guess.

/gag

I like most of what Allahpundit has to say, but he seems to have a vendetta against McCain. He and Michelle Malkin are double teaming . Don't get me wrong I had McCain as my second to last choice, just above Ron Paul, but now that he is the nominee, and after hearing Obama's "plans" for America I'm voting for McCain.

re: #180 Killgore Trout

I wonder if he asked, or told Michelle before hand.

re: #194 jainphx

Is Miss Malkin anti-McCain? I don't read her often enough to know.

re: #60 vascaino4

Respect Geneva convention to prevent soliers from being tortured? Terrorists will torture american soldiers even if Gitmo becomes Disneyland.

Part of McCain's appeal is.......oh wait. McCain has no appeal, other than he is not Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton.

re: #196 taxfreekiller

Just think about blue sky's, sails popping, water rushing by, and
pull the vote lever, turn and leave by the back door.

never ever tell any one,

Just do it.

I'll hold my nose and "just do it".

Vote Obama!

/he makes manure taste good

re: #194 jainphx

Michelle tells Glenn Beck: I won’t vote for McCain over Hillary
Ha! Poor McCain needs to clean up his blogroll. That's just embarrassing.

re: #193 nigella

I like most of what Allahpundit has to say, but he seems to have a vendetta against McCain. He and Michelle Malkin are double teaming . Don't get me wrong I had McCain as my second to last choice, just above Ron Paul, but now that he is the nominee, and after hearing Obama's "plans" for America I'm voting for McCain.

that's exactly where i'm at too. ( i'm going to try not to bad mouth him so much either.) someone posted a photo of him earlier. he was in israel at the prayer wall w/ a little jewish cap on. he seemed sincere. i think on all fronts, including israel, he is the best we can hope for.

re: #182 Jewels (AKA Julian)

I amd getting familiar vibe from the Dems....oh yes...that James Earl Carter Feeling.....

don't they ever learn?

That feeling you are getting is actually James Earl Carter. He never went away.

re: #201 Killgore Trout

I didn't think she'd go there, but as usual you find the answer, thank you.

re: #199 taxfreekiller

ya, and wear sun glasses

But by doing so, I reserve the right to bitch, moan, whine, and even seethe during his presidency.

re: #195 Killgore Trout

Is Miss Malkin anti-McCain? I don't read her often enough to know.

She goes ballistic about his illegal immigration policy.

re: #205 AmeriDan

You will get plenty of practice. I hate him, but I hate the other side more.

This is truly the first "lesser of two (three) evils" vote I will cast in my lifetime.

It has been said at every election, but never applied more than this one.

/Not calling McCain evil.

Anwar and waterboarding are political constructs set up by the left. FYI

Fox is not available here but sometimes I see clips or snippets. One thing that really irritates me: Why do Foxnews anchors or announcers often speak in such an exaggerated way? Often there's so much drama in their grave voices. Is that necessary?

re: #208 AmeriDan

He's a deal maker ala Bob Dole only more sinister.

re: #210 KSK

Where is here?

Germany.
I can get CNN International with cable but not Foxnews.

re: #210 KSK

Why do Foxnews anchors or announcers often speak in such an exaggerated way? Often there's so much drama in their grave voices. Is that necessary?

It's an American thing. All of our cable news outlets have a lot of shouting, drama, flashy graphics and sound effects. I find them all unwatchable.

I noticed that CNN does it too, but more with the music... in a machine gun staccato... very irritating.

We are used to a much more subdued presentation here. But when I see a Fox guy announcing some event or guest I really ask myself: Are they serious?

Guess it's better to read the news than watch it.

re: #215 Killgore Trout

It's an American thing. All of our cable news outlets have a lot of shouting, drama, flashy graphics and sound effects. I find them all unwatchable.

It's The National Enquirer on TV.

::bleh::

I find that, unless the Red wings are playing, I turn my Satellite to the music channels, mostly Escape.

Gah! Everytime someone complains about McCain's stance on boarders I practically go insane trying to figure out how people who rent apartments or rooms can be an issue when our borders are like a sieve.

re: #217 Spiny Norman

A few years ago it used to be worse. Every channel used the same format: get two (or more) guests with opposing views and let them yell over each other. The only serious news on tv is the Leahr report on PBS. They spend 10 minutes on a subject others would cover in 45 seconds. It's actual news.

On German TV a political discussion between invited guests will take at least 30 minutes and the moderator will make sure that nobody starts yelling.

But I think the coolest thing I ever saw was a well known female moderator who had invited a German ex-minister who wrote a stupid book about the "CIA involvement in 9/11". He was supposed to be her guest for 30 minutes but was only talking conspiracy troofer nonsense. After 10 minutes she told him that he had only nonsense to say and nothing of substance he should leave and come back when he had anything to prove his allegations. Basically threw him out and he left like a wet poodle, as we say.

Her team did have to struggle somewhat to fill the remaining 20 minutes :-)

re: #221 KSK

I sure would like to see that happen on Cable. I can see it now, Uhmm Al that Global warming thing is nuts come back when you have something to say LOL. Wishful thinking never hurt anyone.

I would have done it with Al Gore when he blamed Global Warming for the catastrophe in Burma.
That was despicable. Actually the first German journalist has already come out to blame Bush. Surprise.

re: #113 Q-Burn

The whole thing was edited to death- cut and pasted sound bites.

McCain sometimes rambles a lot when he is speaking. Perhaps they were trying to capture the bits where he was most responsive to the question.

I've got some free time this Summer. I think I'll go down to Mexico City and march around with an American flag and a sign demanding my "rights".
What could go wrong?

Oh S**t! my bad. I didn't realize this was the hockey thread.

re: #220 Killgore Trout

A few years ago it used to be worse. Every channel used the same format: get two (or more) guests with opposing views and let them yell over each other. The only serious news on tv is the Leahr report on PBS. They spend 10 minutes on a subject others would cover in 45 seconds. It's actual news.

It makes amusing soundbites for talk radio the following day, though.

Democrats overjoyed that the Maverick is out on "hip" t.v. shows trying to act young-er and "with it", and failing. Barry the Messiah has got the zit cream contingent already wrapped up, and many of them, like last time, won't vote.

Some one should tell Maverick that this year it might actually pay to appear Presidential and maybe have some of that Reagan grace when it comes to the matter of his age and acting it. Think statesman and real leader, vs. the smooth-talking inexperienced huckster with shady buddies candidate he is going to be running against.

Poor pandering is always the worse pandering.

last night’s first installment wasn’t exactly our most popular political thread ever

Which is a shame, because there was a truly excellent post on that thread.

In fact, why don't I quote it:

Seizing the Northeast corner of Saudi Arabia would have have been far easier. The Saudis deserved it far ore, after 911 and their vicious export of their homegrown terror and intolerant religious screed to these and other Western shores.

It would have been easy to hold, being largely empty save foreigners who actually work the wells and pump the oil, and sent a message that we are not to be trifled with, that we need oil and do not tolerate terrorism on American soil. The rest of the oil soaked kingdoms and kleptocracies would have fallen in line, and Iran would likely have been sufficiently chastened to mind its P's and Q's and put aside any dreams of nuclear hegemony of the gulf- because WE would have been the gulf hegemon.

Instead, we fought and continue to fight what is widely perceived as an inappropriate war against a buffoon who posed little direct threat to us. And what's more, we fought it with both eyes on the arab street, pussyfooting around mosques while our boys got picked off two and ten at a time by savages with AK's and a Iranian IED's.

So here we sit, the American taxpayer funding, with blood and treasure, the reconstruction of Iraq even as its oil receipts swell to bursting, and, with oil at 120 and likely to go higher, the Saudi coffers overflowing with monies to fund their intolerant religion's further expansion, while the President dances humiliating sword dances with them even as they laugh at him for having to beg them to lower prices and increase production.

But don't worry. Until his last day in office, this idiot president will keep trying to push the point of the arab spear, that is to say, the 'palestinians', into Israel's very heart. That will perhaps make the Saudis hate us a tiny bit less.

What I neglected to mention, is that Bush effectively torpedoed the Republicans by fighting the war the Saudis wanted fought, the way they wanted it fought, instead of fighting th war we needed the way we needed it fought.

With all his defects, I believe McCain understands this issue very well.

I know another guy who understands it better. Unfortunately he is not running

re: #228 Maine's Michael

I've always thought the flag that flies over the royal House of Saud should be replaced with the Big Red Texaco Star. Next time there's any act of terror traced back to them, retaliation should be swift and simple:

Kick their ass
Take the gas.

re: #29 EC Marm

According to a London paper, Hugh Hefner wants Miley to strip off everthing for Playboy when she hits 18. I'm surprised the 82 y.o. satyr doesn't want her for his harem as the other three are getting long in the tooth.

re: #195 Killgore Trout

Is Miss Malkin anti-McCain? I don't read her often enough to know.

Miss Malkin is death on illegal immigration. Anyone who suggests that, perhaps, it would be awkward to deport several million people is, in her view, the worst kind of traitor.

re: #219 Shay4l

Gah! Everytime someone complains about McCain's stance on boarders I practically go insane trying to figure out how people who rent apartments or rooms can be an issue when our borders are like a sieve.

Very cute!

re: #232 JustMyView

Miss Malkin is death on illegal immigration. Anyone who suggests that, perhaps, it would be awkward to deport several million people is, in her view, the worst kind of traitor.

Heh hehe.

She's a cute little toughie.

I don't usually watch O'Reilly, but this thread has prompted me to do so. There was a black guy on just now saying that there was nothing racial about 90% of blacks voting for Obama because blacks always voted Democrat. O'Reilly politely pointed out that there were two (count 'em) Democrats running in the Democrat primaries.

Non sequitur.

Score one for O'Reilly. ;-)

Sellers don't set prices unless its a monopoly. Oil isn't. But I love reading posts from people who think the Saudis somehow set the price of oil. There might be reason to believe that if they were curtailing production to create a shortage but that isn't the case.

The dollar is falling in value and many investors are converting funds to commodities in an attempt to find something whose value will hold or provide some return. The same thing happened in the months leading up to the stock market crash in 1929 or for that matter the tulip bulb market in Holland centuries ago. As currency loses value (yes, tulip bulbs were once exchanged akin to currency) , people who are holding that currency tend to go on buying sprees for things they think will hold their value.

But the "thing" you buy is only worth what you can sell it for when you want to sell it. And eventually the high cost of gasoline will reduce the demand for it, and then there will be a glut, and the speculators who bought futures at one price will have to sell it months later for less.

These sort of things straighten themselves out, UNLESS, the government gets involved and tries to "fix" the problem which always leads to making the problem worse.

The best thing we can do is to both increase domestic supplies and reduce our consumption. But if it soothes your ego to blame the Saudis for this mess, feel free.

re: #236 Mich-again

Oil production is set by a cartel that, while it does not control all world oil production, controls enough of it so that swings they make in production do affect pricing.

In the past, they also used to directly set prices, IIRC.

Speculators also affect pricing.

But the real issue is supply being set sufficiently low. failing to adapt to increasing demand from China and India.

It is in OPEC's ability to increase supply by several million barrles per day, if they chose to. They choose not to, because to the extent they increase supply, they depress the price.

They are in the catbird's seat.

And Bush, and then Cheney, did go in and beg them to increase supply. Or so we are told.

Anyhow, I do not blame the Sauds for gouging us on oil. They hate us, and belive the oil is Allah-given to them to screw the infidel with as they enrich themselves.

I do blame them for using their wealth to export their intolerant, violent 'religion'.

Seizing their oil would have slowed or stopped the spread of salafism. It would certainly have shown Iran they have to watch their step.

re: #237 Maine's Michael

I do blame them for using their wealth to export their intolerant, violent 'religion'.

I agree with that part 100%. But they are probably smart enough to know that the high oil prices may just kill off the golden goose. At these prices all sorts of alternatives that were once cost prohibitive become very attractive and economically viable. And once the alternatives become viable, the value of oil will drop like a prom dress.

re: #236 Mich-again

Sellers don't set prices unless its a monopoly. Oil isn't. But I love reading posts from people who think the Saudis somehow set the price of oil

Even funnier are the ones who think that Bush is somehow profiting from it all. There's only so much a President can do unilaterally to lower the price of oil, but one of Bush's earliest directives (Executive Order 13212) was to increase drilling for oil and gas on federal lands. And the environmentalists are still giving him hell for it.

re: #79 The Shadow Do

The same message was unpopular in Europe and America all through the late 1920s until 1939 and we paid a price for not hearing the message, and acting on it.

I believe we are doing better now, but only marginally.

It is hard to act in time, because there are many fools who do not see the necessity for difficult action, and these fools are gathered up by those who want their votes for their own purposes of arbitrary power. It is dismaying to watch. At least McCain sees the big picture enough to articulate our real and dismal choices.

McCain is better than Bush, who misdirected us with his "religion of peace" comment.

re: #239 David Simon

OTOH, the Government continues to buy oil on the open market so they can pump it into the strategic reserve which currently holds about 60 million barrels of oil more than we had at the beginning of the Iraq war. So we are printing more money to buy more oil to pump into the ground which is the classic double whammy.

IMO we already have a huge strategic reserve. Its called ANWR.

I do wish McCain would stop using the word 'transcendent'.

It doesn't help him.

re: #241 Mich-again

OTOH, the Government continues to buy oil on the open market so they can pump it into the strategic reserve which currently holds about 60 million barrels of oil more than we had at the beginning of the Iraq war. So we are printing more money to buy more oil to pump into the ground which is the classic double whammy.

IMO we already have a huge strategic reserve. Its called ANWR.

Yes, but ANWR is a pimple on an elphant's ass. As far as I'm concerned, let's tap it if/when the price of oil is a lot higher. In the meantime, it's a lot more economical now to explore alternative energy sources.

One other to thing to consider: As second- and third-world economies become first-world, the demand - and price - for oil is going to continue to rise. I don't think it's necessarily a good idea to exhaust our home-grown energy resources now when we can buy it (relatively cheap?) on the open market.

re: #243 David Simon

I don't think it's necessarily a good idea to exhaust our home-grown energy resources now when we can buy it (relatively cheap?) on the open market.

But if you wait too long, you won't need it. If the economy collapses no one will need it.

re: #237 Maine's Michael

Seizing their [the Saudis] oil would have slowed or stopped the spread of salafism. It would certainly have shown Iran they have to watch their step.

As the self-appointed spokesperson for "neo-colonialism," I've never seen a good argument for not invading Saudi Arabia in 2002 and taking over their oilfields. Their nasty Wahabbist government was directly responsible for 9-11, and they clearly think that we're damnable kuffirs, so f**k them. The world depends on oil, and the flow of oil is safer in our hands than in the hands of the Islamic maniacs. We could offer to split the oil with China, France, and Germany.

All the fancy white-wine-slurping metrosexuals in the U.S. State Department never considered my plan, did they? Am I a chickenhawk? Yes I am. So what. My views make more sense than those of confused weaklings like Obama, so I need to hear why I'm wrong.

I hope this isn't a dead thread. Please, people. Tell me why we shouldn't invade Saudi Arabia and take over their oilfields.

re: #245 Promethea

Aye, sometimes it seems that the world would be a bit better place if the USA were less nice.

I actually turned the station to Great Police Chases on TruTV when McCain came on, then switched back when the segment on Cheers came on where O'Reilly interviewed the mailman.

re: #241 Mich-again

Usually when the oil reserve is pumped up , it's a prelude to confrontation somewhere.

re: #245 Promethea

We could offer to split the oil with China, France, and Germany.

It might come to that (but substitute Russia and the EU for France and Germany).

The first step is to try to transform the entire Middle East from a sewer of bigotry and corruption into something approaching civilization. (That's what our quixotic ventures in Afghanistan and Iraq are all about.) If that fails, drastic measures will be called for. And "neo-colonialism" is high up on the list of preferred drastic measures as far as I'm concerned.

re: #243 David Simon

"I don't think it's necessarily a good idea to exhaust our home-grown energy resources now when we can buy it (relatively cheap?) on the open market."

David, check this out:

The Energy Challenge
Alan W. Dowd
FrontPageMagazine.com
27 June 2007

(snip) ...If you think the United States has exhausted its own reserves of fossil fuels, think again. The Energy Information Administration, a sub-agency of the Department of Energy, reports that, at this moment, the US has 29.9 billion barrels of oil. In other words, the US actually possesses more oil than oil-exporting countries such as Mexico, Norway and the UK.

Plus, there are vast, untapped oil fields and other energy sources inside the US:

%u2022 Just off the coast of Louisiana, Chevron has found an oil field—the “Jack 2” well—with 15 billion barrels of oil.
%u2022 The nonpartisan research firm RAND estimates that Colorado, Utah and Wyoming sit on a goldmine of oil-shale deposits, once thought to be too expensive to convert into petroleum. These states hold between 500 billion and 1.1 trillion recoverable barrels. As RAND’s James Bartis explained in 2005, “We’ve got more oil in this very compact area than the entire Middle East.”
%u2022 As The Economist has reported HERE, drillers have discovered a billion barrels of oil in Sevier County, Utah, alone.
%u2022 Plus, the so-called Greater Rocky Mountain Region holds between 165 trillion and 260 trillion cubic feet of natural gas, which explains why geologists are calling this swath of the US, “the Persian Gulf of natural gas.” (Iran, by way of comparison, sits atop 26.7 trillion cubic meters of natural gas.)
In fact, when we add America’s existing proven reserves to the new finds along the Gulf and in the Big Sky states, the US possesses more oil than all the smug, petroleum-producing headaches of the world—combined. More than Saudi Arabia, more than Iran, more than the UAE, more than Venezuela, more than Russia.

In short, contrary to the mantras of forlorn politicians and newsmen, the “energy crisis” is more a crisis of will than of availability/quantity: The future-fuel alternatives are there—in nuclear power and hybrids and, further down the road, hydrogen. Do we have the will to exploit them? And the fossil fuels are there today—in the Big Sky states and the Gulf and Alaska. Do we have the will to extract them?

The National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA) shows HERE that “There is no evidence that the world, in general, or the United States, in particular, is running out of fossil fuels.” The very opposite may be more accurate:

%u2022 In 1874, geologists in Pennsylvania (then the major oil-producing state) predicted there was only four year’s worth of oil remaining in the US. Yet by 1945, proven reserves of oil in the US amounted to 20 billion barrels.
%u2022 Between 1945 and 1994, the US produced 135 billion barrels of oil domestically—“more than six times the entire amount known to exist in 1945.” Today, US reserves alone could sustain domestic oil needs for 38 to 75 years.
%u2022 In 1920, the US Geological Survey estimated total world oil supplies at 60 billion barrels. In 1950, the experts pushed that number to 600 billion. By 1990, world oil supplies were estimated at 2 trillion barrels. By the mid-1990s, the estimate was higher yet—2.4 trillion. And by 2000, it was even higher—3 trillion barrels of oil supply.
The reason for this constant upward readjustment is technology. ...(snip)

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re: #102 Charles

What was up with all those cuts and edits when McCain was talking about Pakistan? Anyone else notice that?

Did he mention the man who killed Osama bin Laden, a la Bhutto?

re: #250 Tamron

Dang - never saw numbers this big. I knew our reserves were huge but this is absolutely amazing. Normally I don't pay any attention to lib tv but Penn & Tellers Bullshit was on the other night and they did a feature (among others) on Nuclear Power - bad or good. The wimp they had against got his stones handed to him - Penn said "grow a diC%" and proceed to go on a rant that we need to build 400 nuclear power plants to get us off the oil ticks teat. This is one time I have to completely agree with him.

OTOH last night I turned it on and he was telling us the Boy Scouts were the worst thing on earth cuz they didn't allow homosexuals as leaders or scouts. Oh well you cannot always win now can you?

I find some of McCain's policies, on immigration and McCain-Feingold, for example, heinous. On the other hand, McCain does have a fetching political persona.

A kid asked McCain yesterday if McCain was too old to be president. "Aren't you afraid you'll die or develop Alzheimer's or something?" After noting his high energy level on the campaign trail, and his 94 year old mother, McCain ended with, "Thanks for asking, you little jerk!"

This campaign could actually be fun.

i have lost all respect i ever had for the PERFECT CONSERVATIVE CIRCULAR FIRING SQUAD if you can't see the difference between obama and John McCain your a fool.

A PRESIDENT OBAMA WOULD LET IRAN NUKE ISRAEL. SOD OFF

re: #254 yochanan

Wouldn't worry about them when the shite hits the fan on Barry the Messiah. Maybe some more videotapes from Obama supporters? Conservatives will forget about McVain's act and prioritize wanting to deny Obama the Presidency as much as possible.

First maybe Hillary is staying around to watch what happens in the Rezko trial? Let's see, Barry the Pure amd Michelle The Flag Waver were able to get their house for 15% less than its asking price, while Rezko, suprise, suprise, bought the homeowner's adjacent lot at full price. And on the same day ! Things that make you go hmmmmm....

Plus Israel will not let Israel get nuked by Iran. If Obama is the President-elect expect a bombing mission.