I recommend Ayaan Hrisi Ali's book Infidel for people who want to hear about more of these heinous acts...

Very honorable family that is. F**kers.

Sure, let's import that! Nothing there to be worried about.

When can Western Civilization finally say out loud that some people just don't value human life as much as they should?

They have a very strange sense of what honor is all about.

re: #3 song_and_dance_man

Behold the face of Islam. Or at least the left side.

/or is that the right side?

All sides of islime is disgusting.

The suspect immediately headed to the nearest police station and turned himself in, handing over the gun he used to shoot his sibling to officers on duty.

He did this because he knows he won't be punished. The laws in Jordan against honor killings are next to non-existent.

re: #7 Sharmuta

He did this because he knows he won't be punished. The laws in Jordan against honor killings are next to non-existent.

Some "religion". The real God will punish him, hopefully sooner than later.

wow.

re: #5 DesertSage

They have a very strange sense of what honor is all about.

They worship death.

/what do you expect?

Honor - the more you seek it, the further away it gets.

I don't understand why they don't just off themselves. Then they would no longer have to worry about their honour.

win/win

I wonder why he stopped at three bullets.

In my family, true honor doesn't really appear until at least eight.

/

This is the kind of thing that exposes Islam for the dispicable religion that it is.

Islam glorifies death and despises life.

Article 340 of the Jordanian Penal Code states that "he who discovers his wife or one of his female relatives committing adultery with another, and he kills, wounds or injures one or both of them, is exempt from any penalty".

It adds that "he who discovers his wife, or one of his female ascendants or descendants or sisters with another in an unlawful bed and he kills, wounds or injures one or both of them, benefits from a reduction of penalty."

Here's more on Article 340.

re: #16 Sharmuta

Wow. Thanks for that link.

In the West honor is defined as doing your best even in trying circumstances, showing bravery during times of danger, being charitable when you yourself are in need, protecting the weak, granting mercy when asked, keeping your word when breaking it would be to your benefit...

In Islam honor means the people in your neighborhood dont make fun of you or your family.

In the West words can never hurt us. In Islam words can break your bones, and kill.

And they wonder why we fear them.

Hmmm... I dunno, anybody got any ideas?

When we hate a family member in the West, we give them an ugly tie for a Christmas present or something re-gifted from the gift cupboard. Maybe we let their e mails go to a spam folder. Maybe buy their kids drum sets and toys that need expensive batteries.

But kill them?

re: #18 Mr. E. Train

In the West words can never hurt us. In Islam words can break your bones, and kill.

And give them a reason to go on rampages, riots and kill other innocent people, including their own.

Again... and for some reason, the wonder why we fear them and their culture.

So she was married and pregnant. Why did he kill her. Does he think the baby belongs to another man? I think the brother is hearing voices in his head.

OK Everyone -

Best Solution - IF Abdullah II will go with it is to have the perp do the "Saddam Shuffle" LIVE on local TV. In my life there have been women I have been truly angered at. The Idea of killing them - and actually getting away with it - is so "Foreign" to me that I cannot cope with the idea. AND I understand the problem Abdullah II is under - do what I suggest here and face a possible Civil War. Such are the "Complications" of being King.

-S-

The victim became the fifth person reportedly murdered in a so- called honour crime

She was pregnant. That would be two victims, not one.

re: #18 Mr. E. Train

In the West words can never hurt us. In Islam words can break your bones, and kill.

Well.....you wouldn't want to hurt a liberal's little feeling. It might be a hate crime or sumpthing.

The only fear that I have of Islam is that it corrupts everything that it touches, and I fear for the good people of the USA. I believe that the great majority of our country has enough sense to reject Islam. It is the smaller percentage of idiots that worry me. How different would America be if ten percent accepted Islam?

re: #22 Lively

I think he was p.o.ed that she had sex outside of the family......

re: #27 WindHorse

lol

I think the Japanese had the right idea.

If you were dishonored, you killed yourself.

re: #22 Lively

So she was married and pregnant. Why did he kill her. Does he think the baby belongs to another man? I think the brother is hearing voices in his head.

He might just not like who she married. If a woman marries "beneath" the family, or into another sect of islam, that can get her killed by these despicable pieces of s**t.

re: #29 Maine's Michael

I think the Japanese had the right idea.

If you were dishonored, you killed yourself.

The problem is- in islamic societies, a lot of these girls and women know they will be killed and commit suicide instead. It's all about the definitions of honor in the various societies. It's not the method of death, it's the honor that's skewed.

He will be made head of the Muslim Observatory for this wonderful act of love.

Happy Mother's Day. How can any rational person kill his pregnant sister, but then again, these people are not normal. Their religion is all about death and destroying others.

Our biggest mistake is we attempt to put American attitudes and beliefs on them, make them seem like we are. They aren't, not in any fashion. They don't believe in the goodness of the individual; they don't believe in freedom; they don't believe that every human being is a precious life to be protected.

And these are the people that a certain segment of our leaders want to talk with, to come to an agreement with, to make nice with. Chamberlain talked with Hitler, and the world lost.

Let's hope that we don't make that mistake again.

re: #17 gop_patriot

My pleasure.

This is why we fight. This insane man has the same mentality as those who flew planes into 100 story buildings!

Curious as to why the shock troops of the National Organization of Women are not " hitting the beachs" of Amman in response.

Oh, wait, the Jordanians are not " conservatives." My bad.

Muslim religious lunatics get a pass.

re: #37 offendi

Good point

I think a healthy dose of American beliefs would be good for them. They are stuck in a midieval world view. The same world view (the inequality of people) created a fiesty American response in 1776.

What we try to do is understand them from the American world view which is pure foolishness. What we Americans need to understand is that the Islamic world view and the religion from which it springs is corrupt, degrading, and foul.

that fcking dumb bastard shot his sister in the head because of islam. the religion of peace. too many shots to the head to too many innocent people because of that filthy screed.

But, but, it's THEIR culture!

/KOSling

'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

For Abdel-Qader Ali there is only one regret: that he did not kill his daughter at birth. 'If I had realised then what she would become, I would have killed her the instant her mother delivered her,' he said with no trace of remorse.

Two weeks after The Observer revealed the shocking story of Rand Abdel-Qader, 17, murdered because of her infatuation with a British solider in Basra, southern Iraq, her father is defiant. Sitting in the front garden of his well-kept home in the city's Al-Fursi district, he remains a free man, despite having stamped on, suffocated and then stabbed his student daughter to death.

Abdel-Qader, 46, a government employee, was initially arrested but released after two hours. Astonishingly, he said, police congratulated him on what he had done. 'They are men and know what honour is,' he said.

No additional comment by me necessary.

re: #32 Sharmuta

The problem is- in islamic societies, a lot of these girls and women know they will be killed and commit suicide instead. It's all about the definitions of honor in the various societies. It's not the method of death, it's the honor that's skewed.

Japanese society is a shame-based culture ... they save face by rendering their own life as forfeit. The Islamist society is neither shame-based nor guilt-based, it is a completely dysfunctional world view -- it is always someone's else's actions and not their own that bring them dishonor, Allah forbid. Big difference.

Abdel-Qader, 46, a government employee, was initially arrested but released after two hours. Astonishingly, he said, police congratulated him on what he had done. 'They are men and know what honour is,' he said.

If this is not the embodiment of evil incarnate, what is?

"The Jordanian authorities are questioning a 22-year- old man, who allegedly killed his pregnant married sister for reasons related to family honour . . ."

How does honor of the husband of the murdered girl look?

It seems that either he should have murdered her, or, having allowed anyone to murder his wife, that he should man-up and whack his brother-in-law.

But there seems to be at least one other option, and the husband appears to have done nothing.

How then, given his cultural system, is he still considered a man?

At this point it must be noted that both dogs and pigs treat their females better.

Islamophobia? When I read about "honor killings", I wonder why other people wonder why I harbor negative attitudes towards Islam, and Arab CULTure as a whole?

And the more negative reinforcement the Islamic way and Arab way pour onto the world, the less I doubt that the goals of Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hizbollah, ad naseum.....is totally doomed to failure. It is a self defeating proposition, albeit with a lot of blood.

But, as an American, and a student of history, I easily conclude that these Islamaniacs are a bunch of pussies. America has faced fanatics before. The Japanese were ten times as fanatical as the best Arabs on the field today. Numbers don't lie.

(had a few cocktails this evening) :))

I guess he showed her.

And everybody else.

What Stan is all about.

That's one way to deal with sibling rivalry.

Sitting in the front garden of his well-kept home in the city's Al-Fursi district, he remains a free man, despite having stamped on, suffocated and then stabbed his student daughter to death.

Abdel-Qader, 46, a government employee, was initially arrested but released after two hours. Astonishingly, he said, police congratulated him on what he had done. 'They are men and know what honour is,' he said.

When an Israeli soldier kills a terrorist, that's "a crime against humanity/genocide/the Holocaust".
When a "man" brutally murders a helpless girl in cold blood, that's perfectly acceptable and even admirable.

My head hurts, badly.

I would call them animals, but PETA might jump my shit.

re: #22 Lively

So she was married and pregnant. Why did he kill her. Does he think the baby belongs to another man? I think the brother is hearing voices in his head.

The voices would of course be those of the mullahs.

The ROP showing it's caring and sharing side

re: #52 unknowner

Careful there, that almost sounds like ammo for the "Look! Look! LGF is a hate site, see?! They hate all muslims, it says so right there." people.

I hope that's not your intent.

What is their definition of honor?

They have no honor.

Two words would solve this problem: DEATH NOTE.

Write names in a mystical notebook. Rotten person drops in about forty seconds.

Too bad it's only a cartoon. The only solace is that if it did exist, we'd have to make sure it didn't fall into evil hands...like the star of the show, Light Yagami.

I wouldn't want it to fall into the liberals' hands...any more than we'd really want them to have time machines.

Oh, right, another pious, devout Muslim who can't wait to off somebody. This "religion" LOVES death and destruction, conquest and murder. Foul, vile, disgusting, evil....

I found this link today
[Link: fawstin.blogspot.com...]

Some of the pithy remarks at Bosch Fawstin 's blog

"To the true believer Muslim, Islam is Everything, Life is nothing, and Death is the answer"

"Even though we want to be duped about Islam, Muslims are making it impossible"

"Which religion guarantees a place in heaven for murderers?"

"Islam’s so peaceful that we need to be reminded about it constantly."

"Islam proves that a billion people can be wrong."

They should off this jerk- his sister is not his problem anymore- its his brother-in-laws'- he would do any 'honor' stuff now not the stupid brother. She is married and should not be his "problem" anymore. But the B-in-L probably loved her and was tainted by Western values and wouldn't do any sick "honor" killing junk so he murdered her I guess. One can't get around this death cult called muslimism. So sad.

So what's wrong with killing your sister if she does something wrong? Doesn't it occur in all cultures? Isn't it in the Torah and New Testaments? Admit, it, guys, How many of you have killed your sisters in the same circumstances.

Anyone who denies this is ISOMOPHOBIC.

Islamafauxbia: Pleasure you want. Protection you trust.

The difference between a moral man and a man of honor is that the latter murders his sister.

— not H. L. Mencken

Yeah...and keep in mind that Jordan is allegedly a "moderate" nation...IMHO, no such thing in Islam...

KBO

The victim became the fifth person reportedly murdered in a so- called honour crime since the beginning of the year, the paper said. Last year, a total of 18 people were killed for reasons of “honour” in Jordan, according to official sources.

The victim became the fifth person woman/girl (likely) reportedly murdered in a so- called honour crime since the beginning of the year, the paper said. Last year, a total of 18 people women/girls (likely) were killed for reasons of “honour” in Jordan, according to official sources.>

-- Fixed

RE: [Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]
This is the quote that explains Islam and it's treatment of women in a nutshell. NO ONE will convince me that Islam treats women as anything but walking wombs and objects of hate and contempt.
"Death was the least she deserved,' said Abdel-Qader. 'I don't regret it. I had the support of all my friends who are fathers, like me, and know what she did was unacceptable to any Muslim that honours his religion,' he said.

Tell me again how all cultures are equally good and valid, except for Western culture.