happy mudder's day to all the mudder's out there.

I'll be posting test comments and deleting them, so don't y'all be speculatin'.

Ha! Looks to be a fun thread. :)

did ya hear about Charles #3

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A pop quiz? I cannot speak for everyone else, but I have not studied, hope I do not get an F-

Postcards From Yo Mamma

Made me smile, I hope they make you smile too.

And I'm test driving a new mouse- the old one was absolutely making me crazy. Would double click on it's own. Maddening!

Is anybody blogging from Lebannon that we know of?

If it's a filter for foul language we could help. hahaha

Catholic-Muslim conference concludes

The meeting, which was convened by the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) and Catholic representatives of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops’ (USCCB) Committee on Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs, explored teaching about different religions in private and public institutions.
....
From a pedagogical perspective participants looked at effective ways to educate about other religions, and said the most effective approach should not only provide basic information but also draw attention to the spiritual values of a religion. They said maintaining a positive tone in curriculum content can help correct a bias against religion that exists in some educational and political environments.

Participants also agreed that to develop critical thinking skills students need to know the story of religions in a balanced way, neither emphasizing negative features nor promoting the religion in a devotional style more appropriate to a mosque or church setting.

Ugh.

re: #11 The Albatross

Lebanese Political Journal

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Catholic-Muslim conference concludes

Ugh.

Yes, the Grand Imperial All Powerful Mufti said afterwards that Muslims and Catholics can get along just fine. Fine and Dandy, providing the infidels either convert, subjugate themselves or die....and, some people actually say Muslims are not tolerant!?!?!?!

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Ugh.

I'll second that.

re: #14 Killgore Trout

Thanks Kilgore

Just another test...

Will these tests count towards the final grade?

re: #13 Killgore Trout

USCCB sounds like they've lost their bearings.

/must be old age.

Stinky deletes Charles. Lebanon!

Wow. Rough thread! What in heaven's name is Charles saying?!

/ :)

re: #2 Charles

I'll be posting test comments and deleting them, so don't y'all be speculatin'.

Murmur. Murmur. Hubbub. Hubbub. Speculatin'. Speculatin'. Whisper. Whisper. Hubbub.

Those deleted posts could be holes that hatchlings fell through...wonder where those holes come out at?

re: #23 Ma Sands

lots and lots of flowery adjectives, no doubt

I'm testing edge cases ... where the last comment is deleted, for example, and you hit 'new comments'. Previously a bug would reset the comment counter; it's fixed now.

re: #26 Desert Dog

:)

Attention, shoppers...there's a register free over at the comment counter.

Also, clicking on the icon for usernames like 'Lizardoid Minion #32757' will now work correctly and bring up their profile page.

Here's my photo tribute to my Mother I wanted you all to see, please don't delete me..

re: #18 Charles

Charles, looks like you missed and hit #19. :-)

re: #16 EC Marm

I know I'm tough on the Church sometimes but do they really have to do this? Why can't they strive to be a counterbalance to the influence of Islam in the West? There's a niche market there that they're completely ignoring. I get worried sometimes that they see secularism as the real enemy and that the Islamists are their allies. The ICNA is a pretty shay organization. There's a list of participants that I haven't googled yet but I'll bet that there were supporters of terrorism at that convention.

re: #30 Charles

Oh! So there really ARE such Lizards! I always thought I was in the Twilight Zone, or something.....

So salient to our time...

TURNING and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

-William Butler Yeats

What kind of bugs are in the engine? Their not roaches, are they? Ewwww

*stomp*

re: #32 NoSubmission

Nice.

re: #32 NoSubmission

Beautiful!

Like mother, like daughter...

re: #32 NoSubmission

Wonderful! What a beautiful and talented woman, you were blessed! :)

re: #32 NoSubmission

Please do not be offended. DUDE(tte)! Your Mom is HOT!

OK.

I'm not going to get upset the next time someone messes up they're and their.

But boarders for borders are still right out!

*self important huff*

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Seeping political correctness has infiltrated even the RC Church....I seem to remember reading a few stories about that same church standing up to, defeating and pushing back Islam....now, they want to hold hands with them and skip through the daisies in the park? It's hard to make nice when one side thinks you are scum and wants to kill you or make you a second class citizen after you "submit".

re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Please do not be offended. DUDE(tte)! Your Mom is HOT!

My son's friends used to drive him crazy about his mommy. Heh.

re: #42 Shay4l

LOL!

re: #39 gettinby

Beautiful!
Like mother, like daughter...

Thank you.

#40 gop_patriot
Thanks too. I am very lucky indeed.

re: #32 NoSubmission

Hope she saved some of those original cels

:)

re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Please do not be offended. DUDE(tte)! Your Mom is HOT!

I'm a dudette. LOL.
Thank you. My mother was the best mother for miles.

re: #34 Killgore Trout

I know I'm tough on the Church sometimes but do they really have to do this? Why can't they strive to be a counterbalance to the influence of Islam in the West? There's a niche market there that they're completely ignoring. I get worried sometimes that they see secularism as the real enemy and that the Islamists are their allies. The ICNA is a pretty shay organization. There's a list of participants that I haven't googled yet but I'll bet that there were supporters of terrorism at that convention.

The only reason I could see the Catholic Church and/or Catholic high schools and colleges doing this is monetary based. In this section:

Participants also agreed that to develop critical thinking skills students need to know the story of religions in a balanced way, neither emphasizing negative features nor promoting the religion in a devotional style more appropriate to a mosque or church setting.

Sounds so much like higher education administrators helping teachers to write lesson plans. I mean, IF you HAVE to teach it, that would have to be the approach.
I prefer the approach that the Pope is taking to Islam, fix your system-allow other religions, then we'll talk. But this is the U.S. Bishops.

re: #47 Shay4l

Hope she saved some of those original cels
:)

Nope. All went into the dumpster. Sad. I know. Each and every one was hand inked and hand painted.

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Killgore, I wouldn't take this as representative of the catholic church so much as a bunch of ecumenical zealots professing to be catholics. In the ecumenical belief system, it doesn't matter what you believe, all faiths are equally valid. This leads to severe issues when attempting to embrace the raging beast that is radical islam. This same bunch would (and does) just as eagerly embrace secularism as well. They have set aside the scriptures that they don't believe are relevant anymore and have substituted "thou art god" in its place. They see the future as actively embracing and melting all faiths into one unified spiritualism with peace, prosperity, and unity of humankind resulting.

/No, I'm not catholic, I'm Lutheran -- but we have elements in lutheranism (most notably in the ELCA) who also embrace this ecumenism.

re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Please do not be offended. DUDE(tte)! Your Mom is HOT!

Stacy's Mom Has Got it Goin' On.

re: #51 AZfederalist

Interesting.

There you are guys! Open thread !

9/11 Truther Fanboy decides to quote "The Constitution" against a Secret Service agent. Hilarity ensues

re: #54 Psaturn

So- after a brief review of the di's analysis, it would appear that the "copy/paste" their claiming is due to citing the opinions of expert witnesses. Almost everything that is verbatim is previously cited testimony, such as depositions and other material. You're going to find that in any law case.

One the main page, the mouseover text box no longer pops up for the thread's most recent comment links.

/IE7

Lanny vs Anderson Cooper and Communist News Network

re: #34 Killgore Trout

I know I'm tough on the Church sometimes but do they really have to do this? Why can't they strive to be a counterbalance to the influence of Islam in the West? There's a niche market there that they're completely ignoring. I get worried sometimes that they see secularism as the real enemy and that the Islamists are their allies. The ICNA is a pretty shay organization. There's a list of participants that I haven't googled yet but I'll bet that there were supporters of terrorism at that convention.

Kiillgore

There is a counterbalance in the West...the Evangelicals do see the danger of Islam in the West. I have several friends who are from Africa and South America and pastors church in Germany and are doing their thing to fight Islamism. They have even gone to Turkey and help convert several Muslims to Christianity!

Locally, we have a local chapter for Act! for America, a group that attempts to inform people about the dangers of Islam and everyone in the core leadership are of the Evangelical Christian persuasion. I have attempted to have atheists and non religious people to participate in the local chapter meetings and they are not interested. Act! Up for America does not seek to be a Christian organization but rather a neutral organization that seeks to inform the danger of Islamization of the West and the Sharia establishment against the freedom that we enjoy in the West.

re: #56 Sharmuta

Even misstating a fact? The fact that there were no peer reviewed journals published but there were peer reviewed journals that were actually published in the name of ID. I don't think they were retracted, yet..

re: #37 Shay4l

What kind of bugs are in the engine? Their not roaches, are they? Ewwww

*stomp*

Nope. They're Replicators.

/and Charles is searching for the shutdown code

And Psaturn- I will be going over it again more thoroughly to confirm my finding, and if I'm wrong, I'll get back to you and honestly tell you I was wrong. But again- so far it seems the matching text is due to the quoting of depositions.

re: #34 Killgore Trout
Add'l
As far as I know there is not yet an "Islamic" college in the U.S. Yet I suspect there are hundreds of U.S. Catholic colleges and University's which have courses on Islam. It seems, reading between the lines, that perhaps this might have been initiated by the Catholic administrators in order to keep the moaning, groaning, and offended Muslims at bay. Just my guess.

For anyone interested, TNT has Saving Private Ryan on.

re: #42 Shay4l

OK.

I'm not going to get upset the next time someone messes up they're and their.

But boarders for borders are still right out!

*self important huff*

Imma stickler fur that kinda stuff too

re: #60 Psaturn

Two people quoting the same source (in this case- a deposition) are going to have the same quotes. I don't know what is difficult to understand about that.

re: #64 Empire1

For anyone interested, TNT has Saving Private Ryan on.

Actually, perfect for Mother's Day!

re: #55 Killgore Trout

They are such tools! They provoke the SS and cause a disturbance around the First Family, then everything that happens afterwards is the result of "provocateurs", and, of course, they are completely innocent.

It's too much to hope for that they'll fall down a loose sewer grate....

re: #66 Sharmuta

Sometimes lawyers confuse me and I get lost ! LOL

There is a new thread by the way!

re: #37 Shay4l

What kind of bugs are in the engine? Their not roaches, are they? Ewwww

*stomp*

They are Madagascar hissing cockroaches

re: #64 Empire1

I saw it once. Enough. ): My father, before he got married, was there, in the Invasion of Normandy.....he went out from the Great Lakes in a fleet of 80 wooden Navy tugs --only five made it back.....

re: #70 Psaturn

There is a new thread by the way!

Yeah, but I know more about self-deleting open threads than Finkelstein. Read the lead on the thread, and don't want to know more about the Fink.

re: #13 Killgore Trout

From a pedagogical perspective participants looked at effective ways to educate about other religions, and said the most effective approach should not only provide basic information but also draw attention to the spiritual values of a religion. They said maintaining a positive tone in curriculum content can help correct a bias against religion that exists in some educational and political environments.

pedagogical perspective participants

Say that 3 times fast.

re: #34 Killgore Trout

I know I'm tough on the Church sometimes but do they really have to do this? Why can't they strive to be a counterbalance to the influence of Islam in the West? There's a niche market there that they're completely ignoring. I get worried sometimes that they see secularism as the real enemy and that the Islamists are their allies. The ICNA is a pretty shay organization. There's a list of participants that I haven't googled yet but I'll bet that there were supporters of terrorism at that convention.

I don't think they're necessarily doing something disadvantageous in the long run: merely escalating European Christiandom's inevitable descent into irrelevance.

It would be more effective to euthanize this crippled institution and erect new assertive ones at the vanguard of the cultural necessities of our times, then try to rehabilitate it as an ally in the fight against Islamification.

I sure hope the Church sees the secularists as the true enemy: I want all mystics of all stripes polarized and extracted from the political scene.

re: #69 Psaturn

Sometimes lawyers confuse me and I get lost ! LOL

I understand. I might not have caught it myself were it not for the numerous depositions I've looked at myself. Halfway through my second review, and indeed- the judge is citing deposition testimony just as the aclu did in their finding of fact.

Sharmuta,

I was trying to think why would secular Jews and religious Jews be part of Discovery Institute if the primary goal of organization was to "bring people to Christ" as the Wedge Document seem to indicate?

I thought that was curious.

re: #75 medaura18586

I don't think they're necessarily doing something disadvantageous in the long run: merely escalating European Christiandom's inevitable descent into irrelevance.

It would be more effective to euthanize this crippled institution and erect new assertive ones at the vanguard of the cultural necessities of our times, then try to rehabilitate it as an ally in the fight against Islamification.

I sure hope the Church sees the secularists as the true enemy: I want all mystics of all stripes polarized and extracted from the political scene.

What do you mean?

I meant this part

I sure hope the Church sees the secularists as the true enemy: I want all mystics of all stripes polarized and extracted from the political scene.

What do you mean?

Psaturn- why would secular Jews and religious Jews be willing to negotiate with the palestinians?

I think that's beyond curious.