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Finkelstein in His Element at UC Irvine

Sun, May 11, 2008 at 2:02:03 pm PST

Jonathan Constantine has video of Norman Finkelstein at UC Irvine’s latest antisemitic hatefest (sponsored by Muslim student groups who cheer his every pronouncement in the clip): Finkelstein Angered By Hardball Question, Calls for Military Destruction of Israel - CAMPUS WATCH, Part of the Red County Network.

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#1 Psaturn 5/11/08 2:04:28 pm 0

Yikes...a self hating Jew... I think he is a Jew, right?

#2 NoSubmission 5/11/08 2:07:13 pm 0

But did he finish his waffles?

#3 DesertSage 5/11/08 2:07:25 pm 4

re: #1 Psaturn

Yikes...a self hating Jew... I think he is a Jew, right?

He's of Jewish heritage, but that's where it ends.

#4 A Kiwi Infidel 5/11/08 2:08:44 pm 1

One word.

Arsehole.

#5 bj 5/11/08 2:09:14 pm 0

I've not seen anything that indicates finkelstein is a practicing or observant Jew to me. Given much of what he publishes and preaches, I don't see how he can be .. not my kind of Jew anyway.

#6 gibsonz 5/11/08 2:09:17 pm 0

I bet this guy gets all "tingly" in the legs when he see`s Obama in jeans.

#7 yochanan 5/11/08 2:10:12 pm 4

JEW BY ACCIDENT AKA A SELF HATER.
in hitlers day he would have lead the juedenrat or been a concentration guard.

#8 gop_patriot 5/11/08 2:10:33 pm 2

re: #3 DesertSage

He's of Jewish heritage, but that's where it ends.

A JINO*?

*Jew In Name Only

#9 paxnhymn 5/11/08 2:11:18 pm 0

re: #3 DesertSage

He's of Jewish heritage, but that's where it ends.

So would this filthy bastard be happy if he maybe got to spend an evening meal with some of his friends with, ohh, say, Hezbollah?

#10 Psaturn 5/11/08 2:11:47 pm 5

re: #7 yochanan

JEW BY ACCIDENT AKA A SELF HATER.
in hitlers day he would have lead the juedenrat or been a concentration guard.

Or George Soros!

#11 LeonidasOfSparta 5/11/08 2:12:37 pm 2

sadly IT SEEMS that some of the most virulent anti-semites are themselves Jews.
Why? I cannot speak to that question for it is too enormous for me to get my head around. It deepens my sadness for Israel because sometimes it appears that they are undersiege from WITHIN and without Judaism.

Why do the most wealthy liberals believe in Marxism/Communism where the economic tenate is: from each according to his ability (bank account) to each according to his need; thus allowing all the wealth to be redistributed? I think somewhere in all this is an answer and I do not know what it is. Guilt? Self-loathing? a form of insanity? desire for popularity?

#12 Fat Jolly Penguin 5/11/08 2:14:39 pm 1

re: #11 LeonidasOfSparta

Why do the most wealthy liberals believe in Marxism/Communism where the economic tenate is: from each according to his ability (bank account) to each according to his need; thus allowing all the wealth to be redistributed? I think somewhere in all this is an answer and I do not know what it is. Guilt? Self-loathing? a form of insanity? desire for popularity?

DINGDINGDINGDING! We have a winnah!

/really sad when the only way you have of making yourself known to the world is through misery and suffering...

#13 AZfederalist 5/11/08 2:14:52 pm 0

re: #11 LeonidasOfSparta

I think in the case of many liberals re Marxism/Communism, they think they are going to be the ones to lead the proletariat -- thus it's a power thing. I don't think that same logic applies to jews or others who would turn power over to those wanting to kill them.

#14 paxnhymn 5/11/08 2:15:08 pm 0

re: #11 LeonidasOfSparta

who knows? Why did God create lemmings? maybe both questions will be answered someday..

#15 Macker 5/11/08 2:15:19 pm 0

Would the Finkelstein Shit Kid be more apropos here?

#16 LEGION 5/11/08 2:15:23 pm 1

So sad- the virulent infected psycho deviant should be shamed to be called a human being.

#17 buzzsawmonkey 5/11/08 2:16:28 pm 0

re: #11 LeonidasOfSparta

The burden of the mitzvot is sometimes very heavy. There is a Talmudic story that tells of four (rabbis) who went into a vineyard (the Torah); one died, one went mad, one became an apostate. Only one emerged whole.

#18 abolitionist 5/11/08 2:17:58 pm 2

Bet he thinks Spartans were merely warmongers and deserved to be overrun by the Persians.

#19 marsl 5/11/08 2:18:41 pm 6

Norman Finkelstein is a disgrace.

#20 BigPapa 5/11/08 2:18:46 pm 1

How can somebody so highly educated be such an idiot?

If Israel was defeated, everything would be all better. (Because they would be wiped from the face of the earth... no more war!)

#21 Psaturn 5/11/08 2:19:10 pm 2

re: #14 paxnhymn

who knows? Why did God create lemmings? maybe both questions will be answered someday..

And how come lemmings still exist?

#22 paxnhymn 5/11/08 2:19:25 pm 0

re: #17 buzzsawmonkey

The burden of the mitzvot is sometimes very heavy. There is a Talmudic story that tells of four (rabbis) who went into a vineyard (the Torah); one died, one went mad, one became an apostate. Only one emerged whole.

I don't guess it would do any good to say that the apostate could've been a messianic, thus it was at least 50%....didn't think so.


/ guys gotta try ya know.


:-D

#23 ggt 5/11/08 2:19:32 pm 0

re: #11 LeonidasOfSparta

I think tomes have been written a out Hate of Self. I think it is the root of the of the moonbat mindset.

It's a Cain and Abel mind-f@ck. Man can't be good if he would kill his brother --misunderstanding of the concept of Original Sin.

There are theologians and psychiarists who can explain it much better than I.

#24 buzzsawmonkey 5/11/08 2:20:03 pm 7

re: #20 BigPapa

How can somebody so highly educated be such an idiot?

Norman Finkelstein is the new man in prison who of his own volition offers his posterior to the person he feels most likely to protect him.

#25 BigPapa 5/11/08 2:20:35 pm 0

My Finkelstien Shit Kid:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

#26 LEGION 5/11/08 2:21:45 pm 0

re: #20 BigPapa

How can somebody so highly educated be such an idiot?

If Israel was defeated, everything would be all better. (Because they would be wiped from the face of the earth... no more war!)

Nah- the Sunni's and the Shites are still kicking each others asses. They will find another scapegoat- that's the way it is with deviants.

#27 savage_nation 5/11/08 2:22:58 pm 1

Like I said once about Finkelstein, he's a fucking scumbag.

I see I have not had to change my opinion one bit.

Hi kids...

#28 ggt 5/11/08 2:23:09 pm 1

re: #26 LEGION

They who wish to will always find a reason to hate. It's sooooo much easier to blame and enemy than to look within oneself.

Personal Responsibility/Free Will is not for pussies.

#29 Bubbaman 5/11/08 2:23:55 pm 0

What a sick pup. These uberlibs remind me of mental patients that encountered years ago.

#30 ggt 5/11/08 2:24:08 pm 0

Oh, btw, Good Afternoon Lizards! It's overcast right now in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland today. It was glorious only an hour ago.

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY

How are you-all this day?

#31 Wm T Sherman 5/11/08 2:24:12 pm 0

OT: Bizarre story from the UK.

'Gang of girls 'blew up house with home-made bomb over row about boy'

A gang of teenage girls may have blown up a house with a home-made liquid bomb, which killed a man in a neighbouring property, after arguing with another girl about a love rival.

Purple liquid was poured through the letterbox of the Victorian house before an explosion destroyed three houses.

Their intended victim, Charlotte Anderson, was caught in the blast and was rushed to intensive care suffering with severe burns.

Ten hours earlier Miss Anderson had phoned police to say a gang of girls aged 16 and 17 was causing trouble outside her home, in Harrow. They were directing abuse, about a boy, at Miss Anderson's ground floor flat.

Witnesses said they saw someone pouring a "purple, smelly liquid" through the letterbox of the house.

Experts say the liquid could have vaporized and caused the explosion, which killed Emad Qureshi, 26, who was at home with his parents in a neighbouring house at the time of the blast.

He was crushed to death by falling rubble.

Miss Anderson was pulled from her wrecked flat by a neighbour and she was rushed to hospital, where her condition was described as "non life-threatening".

[Link: www.thisislondon.co.uk...]

Mystery purple liquid. Weird.

#32 BigPapa 5/11/08 2:24:44 pm 0

re: #26 LEGION

Nah- the Sunni's and the Shites are still kicking each others asses. They will find another scapegoat- that's the way it is with deviants.

Ahhh..... oh. Damn! I thought I had it all figured out. Back to college...

#33 MJ 5/11/08 2:25:04 pm 0

Michael Young, the Lebanese commentator, recently wrote about Hezbollah's patsies primarily Finkelstein:

"...This behavior comes full circle especially for the revolutionary fringe on the left, which seems invariably to find its way back to violence. In the same way that Finkelstein can compare Hezbollah admiringly to the Soviet Red Army and the communist resistance during World War II ("it was brutal, it was ruthless"), he sees in resistance a quasi-religious act that brooks no challenge, even from its likely victims. What is so odd in Finkelstein and those like him is that the universalism and humanism at the heart of the left's view of itself has evaporated, to be replaced by categorical imperatives usually associated with the extreme right: blood; honor; solidarity; and the defense of near-hallowed land."

[Link: www.reason.com...]

#34 ggt 5/11/08 2:27:19 pm 0

re: #31 Wm T Sherman

In lieu of parental discipline --what is society to do? Boot Camp --convent school?

The social system is breaking down.

#35 BigPapa 5/11/08 2:32:10 pm 0

re: #33 MJ

That's a great link. It seems that the left has made the mistake of leaving it's values for the sake of winning against it's biggest foe, losing itself in the process.

Sort of like the recent split on the right in Europe, LGF, Robert Spencer: not aligning with kinder gentler Nazis and racist based organizations against a common foe, jihadi Islamism.

#36 pingjockey 5/11/08 2:35:38 pm 0

Does this fool think if he sucks up they'll kill him last?

#37 Gumby 5/11/08 2:35:51 pm 0

re: #21 Psaturn

And how come lemmings still exist?


Cause there's always someone to follow? even if they are wrong?

#38 buzzsawmonkey 5/11/08 2:37:09 pm 7

Since the early Middle Ages at least, there have been Jews who made common cause with the enemies of the Jewish people for their own self-aggrandizement. They would incite the church and the populace to hostility of the Jewish community with wild tales of Jewish perfidy, fostering blood libels, Host-desecration libels, riots and looting, Talmud burnings, and public disputations on religion which often ended in the forced conversion or massacre or expulsion of the community.

Norman Finkelstein is one of these in modern guise.

#39 Shaky Louie 5/11/08 2:39:34 pm 0

Michael Moore & Lions Gate Films presents:
The Accidental Jew
Starring - Norm "The Kid" Finkelstien as, "The Self-Hating Jew"

#40 yochanan 5/11/08 2:39:36 pm 0

re: #38 buzzsawmonkey

so true buzz.

#41 joecitizen 5/11/08 2:39:39 pm 0

ot...happy mothers day to all you lizardmoms and muthas...

#42 Psaturn 5/11/08 2:39:47 pm 0

re: #37 Gumby

Cause there's always someone to follow? even if they are wrong?

If they followed all the way, they would be extinct ! That means some lemmings are not following!

#43 Psaturn 5/11/08 2:41:05 pm 0

re: #38 buzzsawmonkey

Since the early Middle Ages at least, there have been Jews who made common cause with the enemies of the Jewish people for their own self-aggrandizement. They would incite the church and the populace to hostility of the Jewish community with wild tales of Jewish perfidy, fostering blood libels, Host-desecration libels, riots and looting, Talmud burnings, and public disputations on religion which often ended in the forced conversion or massacre or expulsion of the community.

Norman Finkelstein is one of these in modern guise.

There were? Can you name some names? From the Muddle Ages?

#44 buzzsawmonkey 5/11/08 2:43:00 pm 0

re: #43 Psaturn

There were? Can you name some names? From the Muddle Ages?

There was one in Germany who I believe went by the name of Pfefferkon ("Peppercorn").

I don't have my reference books here at the office, but there were a number of them. Most of the Talmud burnings and religious disputations in the Middle Ages were sparked by types of this sort.

#45 buzzsawmonkey 5/11/08 2:44:16 pm 0

re: #44 buzzsawmonkey

PIMF that should be "Pfefferkorn."

#46 Psaturn 5/11/08 2:44:25 pm 0

re: #44 buzzsawmonkey

Yikes! I guess self hating Jews were there all along!

#47 Alouette 5/11/08 2:45:09 pm 1

re: #38 buzzsawmonkey

Since the early Middle Ages at least, there have been Jews who made common cause with the enemies of the Jewish people for their own self-aggrandizement. They would incite the church and the populace to hostility of the Jewish community with wild tales of Jewish perfidy, fostering blood libels, Host-desecration libels, riots and looting, Talmud burnings, and public disputations on religion which often ended in the forced conversion or massacre or expulsion of the community.

Norman Finkelstein is one of these in modern guise.

Torquemada, Pablo Christiani, Johannes Pfefferkorn

#48 ploome hineni 5/11/08 2:46:08 pm 0

re: #11 LeonidasOfSparta

we have been soaked in the belief

that it is better to give than to recieve

and the people who give up worldy 'treasures' are the saintly

#49 Terp Mole 5/11/08 2:46:09 pm 0

UC Davis MSA hosting hate-mongers;

Justice Week @ UC Davis

The Muslim Student Association in collaboration with other student and regional organizations will host the second annual Justice Week at the University of California Davis starting May 12, 2008. The theme of this year's justice week is domestic inequalities taking place locally in the state of California. California's Health Care Crisis, the Politics of Poverty, Modern Day Slavery though Human Trafficking, the Cost of Hegemony and the D-Q University Crisis are the respective topics of each day of this week.

World renowned intellectuals and politicians will be addressing these topics including the 2008 Green Party Presidential Nominee Cynthia McKinney, Seth Sandronsky political journalist from the State Capitol, Marina Augusto from the California Attorney General's Office, Dr. Amer Araim, former Iraqi diplomat and United Nations Senior Political Affairs Officer, as well as indigenous students currently involved in the struggle to win back D-Q University's accreditation.

Here's the dossier on Dr. Araim;

If you think anti-Israel activism and support for America's enemies is limited to major universities that receive large financial grants from Saudi royals and Gulf state sheiks, think again. A case in point is Diablo Valley College, a community college nestled in the sleepy bedroom community of Pleasant Hill, California.

Diablo Valley College is the home of Dr. Amer Araim, a former Iraqi diplomat, prior UN Secretariat official, and imam of the Dar-Ul-Islam mosque in Concord, California. At DVC, Araim teaches a course titled "Politics of the Middle East," which this writer previously attended for an entire semester. Rather than teaching relevant facts or Middle East history in the classroom, he encourages his students to oppose Israel's existence as a Jewish state. As the basis for his classroom instruction, Araim uses such documents as the Hamas charter and the anti-Semitic forgery, the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion"...

#50 buzzsawmonkey 5/11/08 2:46:20 pm 0

re: #47 Alouette

Phillip II of Spain, who instituted the Spanish "blood purity" laws, apparently had a Converso or two in the family tree.

#51 ploome hineni 5/11/08 2:46:59 pm 3

re: #19 marsl

Norman Finkelstein is a disgrace.

he is insane, actually

#52 Alouette 5/11/08 2:48:48 pm 0

re: #50 buzzsawmonkey

Phillip II of Spain, who instituted the Spanish "blood purity" laws, apparently had a Converso or two in the family tree.

Wasn't that the guy who was married to "Bloody Mary" Tudor, and had his ass kicked by Elizabeth I?

#53 warlock 5/11/08 2:51:01 pm 0

He says Israel is a very militant country, so they need to get their butts kicked.

Gee, I wonder why they have to be so militant?

My favorite line of his is, following something he said is "and these are not words." His brilliancy is off the charts.

#54 MJ 5/11/08 2:51:36 pm 0

From a few years back:

Jews against Israel
Manfred Gerstenfeld

Anti-Semitic attacks on Israel by Israelis and Jews are frequently indistinguishable from those by gentiles. Among the specific aspects in the anti-Israel writings of some Jews are the use of their family's Holocaust experiences, their references to being Jewish or an association of some kind with Israel.

Gentile assaults on Israel and Jews often use statements from Israeli or Diaspora Jewish defamers as a legitimization.

In order to fight verbal attacks against Israel by Israelis and Diaspora Jews more effectively, a much better understanding of their background, motives and methods is required. This issue has largely been neglected by Israel and the major defense organizations.

Rest here:
[Link: www.jcpa.org...]

#55 buzzsawmonkey 5/11/08 2:51:52 pm 0

re: #52 Alouette

Wasn't that the guy who was married to "Bloody Mary" Tudor, and had his ass kicked by Elizabeth I?

That's the one. He is the one who sent the Armada against England.

He also built the Escorial palace. I was there in '92, for a 500th-anniversary-of-the-expulsion-of-th e-Jews tour sponsored by the Technion. The Hebrew manuscripts there are magnificent.

#56 Annar 5/11/08 2:53:39 pm 2

Happy I signed the petition to get that idiot kicked out of DePaul.

#57 buzzsawmonkey 5/11/08 2:54:31 pm 0

re: #56 Annar

Happy I signed the petition to get that idiot kicked out of DePaul.

Any news on the progress of Thomas Klocek's suit against DePaul? He got a really raw deal from the administration.

#58 joecitizen 5/11/08 2:54:58 pm 0

re: #51 ploome hineni

he is insane, actually


I think insane prolly gives him too much credit..I've known some great crazy people..fact,right here on this blog..heh

#59 ploome hineni 5/11/08 2:56:38 pm 0

re: #58 joecitizen

I think insane prolly gives him too much credit..I've known some great crazy people..fact,right here on this blog..heh

who?

#60 ploome hineni 5/11/08 2:57:15 pm 1

I do not find insane charming or great

/but that's me

#61 MJ 5/11/08 2:57:42 pm 0

re: #57 buzzsawmonkey

Any news on the progress of Thomas Klocek's suit against DePaul? He got a really raw deal from the administration.

He got a pretty raw deal from the organized Chicago Jewish community too who were both late and weak in giving that guy any support. But what else is new?

#62 Ojoe 5/11/08 3:00:25 pm 3

re: #55 buzzsawmonkey

And thank G-d for the cause of human freedom that the combination of Philip II and Bloody Mary proved infertile.

#63 joecitizen 5/11/08 3:00:35 pm 0

re: #59 ploome hineni

who?


well ploome,it's like this...I'm more of a hitandrun typa cat though come ta think of it I have witnessed you GET crazy from time ta time but really that's not the same thing,is it?No names from me under the severest of pain and recrimination..

#64 yochanan 5/11/08 3:01:35 pm 0

re: #61 MJ

the org. jewish comm out side of the ortho are very liberal.

#65 buzzsawmonkey 5/11/08 3:02:42 pm 0

re: #61 MJ

He got a pretty raw deal from the organized Chicago Jewish community too who were both late and weak in giving that guy any support. But what else is new?

If the organized Chicago Jewish community ran true to type, it scuttled for cover rather than rock the boat--particularly since the person being reamed was not Jewish, and the entity doing the reaming was a Catholic university.

But the "organized Jewish community" has been full of timeserving cowards since WWII.

#66 JeremyR 5/11/08 3:04:20 pm 0

You people were just too kind to Carter earlier today. Its OK though, mere words cannot express the loathing and hate I feel for that worm turd.

damn! Now I'm being nice to him.

#67 ggt 5/11/08 3:04:39 pm 0

It's getting fun downstairs.

#68 buzzsawmonkey 5/11/08 3:05:01 pm 0

re: #66 JeremyR

You people were just too kind to Carter earlier today. Its OK though, mere words cannot express the loathing and hate I feel for that worm turd.

damn! Now I'm being nice to him.

Worm turds serve the useful function of increasing soil fertility. Carter has yet to rise to that level.

#69 savage_nation 5/11/08 3:05:36 pm 0

re: #66 JeremyR

You people were just too kind to Carter earlier today. Its OK though, mere words cannot express the loathing and hate I feel for that worm turd.

damn! Now I'm being nice to him.

What did Jimmah do this time?

#70 yochanan 5/11/08 3:07:18 pm 0

safardic jews, jews from russia and orthodox jews aren't liberal the rest are generally liberal there are always exceptions.

#71 JeremyR 5/11/08 3:08:10 pm 0

re: #68 buzzsawmonkey

Worm turds serve the useful function of increasing soil fertility. Carter has yet to rise to that level.

I know, I KNOW. I owe worms an apology. Carter polutes everything he breathes on.

Dang it, I'm still too nice to that worthless vile scum sucker.
The only good he did in my life was to convince me to never vote for a dem.

#72 yochanan 5/11/08 3:09:33 pm 1

re: #65 buzzsawmonkey

the jewish republican group gave him a platform to speak that i know because i was there.

#73 JeremyR 5/11/08 3:10:00 pm 0

re: #69 savage_nation

What did Jimmah do this time?

The list contains every thing anti American that ever was. On the thread this morning I decided to just leave rather then boil my blood with that America hating freedom hating Jew hating what ever.