Yikes...a self hating Jew... I think he is a Jew, right?

But did he finish his waffles?

re: #1 Psaturn

Yikes...a self hating Jew... I think he is a Jew, right?

He's of Jewish heritage, but that's where it ends.

One word.

Arsehole.

I've not seen anything that indicates finkelstein is a practicing or observant Jew to me. Given much of what he publishes and preaches, I don't see how he can be .. not my kind of Jew anyway.

I bet this guy gets all "tingly" in the legs when he see`s Obama in jeans.

JEW BY ACCIDENT AKA A SELF HATER.
in hitlers day he would have lead the juedenrat or been a concentration guard.

re: #3 DesertSage

He's of Jewish heritage, but that's where it ends.

A JINO*?

*Jew In Name Only

re: #3 DesertSage

He's of Jewish heritage, but that's where it ends.

So would this filthy bastard be happy if he maybe got to spend an evening meal with some of his friends with, ohh, say, Hezbollah?

re: #7 yochanan

JEW BY ACCIDENT AKA A SELF HATER.
in hitlers day he would have lead the juedenrat or been a concentration guard.

Or George Soros!

sadly IT SEEMS that some of the most virulent anti-semites are themselves Jews.
Why? I cannot speak to that question for it is too enormous for me to get my head around. It deepens my sadness for Israel because sometimes it appears that they are undersiege from WITHIN and without Judaism.

Why do the most wealthy liberals believe in Marxism/Communism where the economic tenate is: from each according to his ability (bank account) to each according to his need; thus allowing all the wealth to be redistributed? I think somewhere in all this is an answer and I do not know what it is. Guilt? Self-loathing? a form of insanity? desire for popularity?

re: #11 LeonidasOfSparta

Why do the most wealthy liberals believe in Marxism/Communism where the economic tenate is: from each according to his ability (bank account) to each according to his need; thus allowing all the wealth to be redistributed? I think somewhere in all this is an answer and I do not know what it is. Guilt? Self-loathing? a form of insanity? desire for popularity?

DINGDINGDINGDING! We have a winnah!

/really sad when the only way you have of making yourself known to the world is through misery and suffering...

re: #11 LeonidasOfSparta

I think in the case of many liberals re Marxism/Communism, they think they are going to be the ones to lead the proletariat -- thus it's a power thing. I don't think that same logic applies to jews or others who would turn power over to those wanting to kill them.

re: #11 LeonidasOfSparta

who knows? Why did God create lemmings? maybe both questions will be answered someday..

Would the Finkelstein Shit Kid be more apropos here?

So sad- the virulent infected psycho deviant should be shamed to be called a human being.

Bet he thinks Spartans were merely warmongers and deserved to be overrun by the Persians.

Norman Finkelstein is a disgrace.

How can somebody so highly educated be such an idiot?

If Israel was defeated, everything would be all better. (Because they would be wiped from the face of the earth... no more war!)

re: #14 paxnhymn

who knows? Why did God create lemmings? maybe both questions will be answered someday..

And how come lemmings still exist?

re: #17 buzzsawmonkey

The burden of the mitzvot is sometimes very heavy. There is a Talmudic story that tells of four (rabbis) who went into a vineyard (the Torah); one died, one went mad, one became an apostate. Only one emerged whole.

I don't guess it would do any good to say that the apostate could've been a messianic, thus it was at least 50%....didn't think so.

/ guys gotta try ya know.

:-D

re: #11 LeonidasOfSparta

I think tomes have been written a out Hate of Self. I think it is the root of the of the moonbat mindset.

It's a Cain and Abel mind-f@ck. Man can't be good if he would kill his brother --misunderstanding of the concept of Original Sin.

There are theologians and psychiarists who can explain it much better than I.

My Finkelstien Shit Kid:

re: #20 BigPapa

How can somebody so highly educated be such an idiot?

If Israel was defeated, everything would be all better. (Because they would be wiped from the face of the earth... no more war!)

Nah- the Sunni's and the Shites are still kicking each others asses. They will find another scapegoat- that's the way it is with deviants.

re: #26 LEGION

They who wish to will always find a reason to hate. It's sooooo much easier to blame and enemy than to look within oneself.

Personal Responsibility/Free Will is not for pussies.

What a sick pup. These uberlibs remind me of mental patients that encountered years ago.

Oh, btw, Good Afternoon Lizards! It's overcast right now in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland today. It was glorious only an hour ago.

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY

How are you-all this day?

OT: Bizarre story from the UK.

'Gang of girls 'blew up house with home-made bomb over row about boy'

A gang of teenage girls may have blown up a house with a home-made liquid bomb, which killed a man in a neighbouring property, after arguing with another girl about a love rival.

Purple liquid was poured through the letterbox of the Victorian house before an explosion destroyed three houses.

Their intended victim, Charlotte Anderson, was caught in the blast and was rushed to intensive care suffering with severe burns.

Ten hours earlier Miss Anderson had phoned police to say a gang of girls aged 16 and 17 was causing trouble outside her home, in Harrow. They were directing abuse, about a boy, at Miss Anderson's ground floor flat.

Witnesses said they saw someone pouring a "purple, smelly liquid" through the letterbox of the house.

Experts say the liquid could have vaporized and caused the explosion, which killed Emad Qureshi, 26, who was at home with his parents in a neighbouring house at the time of the blast.

He was crushed to death by falling rubble.

Miss Anderson was pulled from her wrecked flat by a neighbour and she was rushed to hospital, where her condition was described as "non life-threatening".

[Link: www.thisislondon.co.uk...]

Mystery purple liquid. Weird.

re: #26 LEGION

Nah- the Sunni's and the Shites are still kicking each others asses. They will find another scapegoat- that's the way it is with deviants.

Ahhh..... oh. Damn! I thought I had it all figured out. Back to college...

Michael Young, the Lebanese commentator, recently wrote about Hezbollah's patsies primarily Finkelstein:

"...This behavior comes full circle especially for the revolutionary fringe on the left, which seems invariably to find its way back to violence. In the same way that Finkelstein can compare Hezbollah admiringly to the Soviet Red Army and the communist resistance during World War II ("it was brutal, it was ruthless"), he sees in resistance a quasi-religious act that brooks no challenge, even from its likely victims. What is so odd in Finkelstein and those like him is that the universalism and humanism at the heart of the left's view of itself has evaporated, to be replaced by categorical imperatives usually associated with the extreme right: blood; honor; solidarity; and the defense of near-hallowed land."

[Link: www.reason.com...]

re: #31 Wm T Sherman

In lieu of parental discipline --what is society to do? Boot Camp --convent school?

The social system is breaking down.

re: #33 MJ

That's a great link. It seems that the left has made the mistake of leaving it's values for the sake of winning against it's biggest foe, losing itself in the process.

Sort of like the recent split on the right in Europe, LGF, Robert Spencer: not aligning with kinder gentler Nazis and racist based organizations against a common foe, jihadi Islamism.

Does this fool think if he sucks up they'll kill him last?

re: #21 Psaturn

And how come lemmings still exist?

Cause there's always someone to follow? even if they are wrong?

Michael Moore & Lions Gate Films presents:
The Accidental Jew
Starring - Norm "The Kid" Finkelstien as, "The Self-Hating Jew"

re: #38 buzzsawmonkey

so true buzz.

ot...happy mothers day to all you lizardmoms and muthas...

re: #37 Gumby

Cause there's always someone to follow? even if they are wrong?

If they followed all the way, they would be extinct ! That means some lemmings are not following!

re: #38 buzzsawmonkey

Since the early Middle Ages at least, there have been Jews who made common cause with the enemies of the Jewish people for their own self-aggrandizement. They would incite the church and the populace to hostility of the Jewish community with wild tales of Jewish perfidy, fostering blood libels, Host-desecration libels, riots and looting, Talmud burnings, and public disputations on religion which often ended in the forced conversion or massacre or expulsion of the community.

Norman Finkelstein is one of these in modern guise.

There were? Can you name some names? From the Muddle Ages?

re: #44 buzzsawmonkey

Yikes! I guess self hating Jews were there all along!

re: #38 buzzsawmonkey

Since the early Middle Ages at least, there have been Jews who made common cause with the enemies of the Jewish people for their own self-aggrandizement. They would incite the church and the populace to hostility of the Jewish community with wild tales of Jewish perfidy, fostering blood libels, Host-desecration libels, riots and looting, Talmud burnings, and public disputations on religion which often ended in the forced conversion or massacre or expulsion of the community.

Norman Finkelstein is one of these in modern guise.

Torquemada, Pablo Christiani, Johannes Pfefferkorn

UC Davis MSA hosting hate-mongers;

Justice Week @ UC Davis

The Muslim Student Association in collaboration with other student and regional organizations will host the second annual Justice Week at the University of California Davis starting May 12, 2008. The theme of this year's justice week is domestic inequalities taking place locally in the state of California. California's Health Care Crisis, the Politics of Poverty, Modern Day Slavery though Human Trafficking, the Cost of Hegemony and the D-Q University Crisis are the respective topics of each day of this week.

World renowned intellectuals and politicians will be addressing these topics including the 2008 Green Party Presidential Nominee Cynthia McKinney, Seth Sandronsky political journalist from the State Capitol, Marina Augusto from the California Attorney General's Office, Dr. Amer Araim, former Iraqi diplomat and United Nations Senior Political Affairs Officer, as well as indigenous students currently involved in the struggle to win back D-Q University's accreditation.

Here's the dossier on Dr. Araim;

If you think anti-Israel activism and support for America's enemies is limited to major universities that receive large financial grants from Saudi royals and Gulf state sheiks, think again. A case in point is Diablo Valley College, a community college nestled in the sleepy bedroom community of Pleasant Hill, California.

Diablo Valley College is the home of Dr. Amer Araim, a former Iraqi diplomat, prior UN Secretariat official, and imam of the Dar-Ul-Islam mosque in Concord, California. At DVC, Araim teaches a course titled "Politics of the Middle East," which this writer previously attended for an entire semester. Rather than teaching relevant facts or Middle East history in the classroom, he encourages his students to oppose Israel's existence as a Jewish state. As the basis for his classroom instruction, Araim uses such documents as the Hamas charter and the anti-Semitic forgery, the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion"...

re: #50 buzzsawmonkey

Phillip II of Spain, who instituted the Spanish "blood purity" laws, apparently had a Converso or two in the family tree.

Wasn't that the guy who was married to "Bloody Mary" Tudor, and had his ass kicked by Elizabeth I?

He says Israel is a very militant country, so they need to get their butts kicked.

Gee, I wonder why they have to be so militant?

My favorite line of his is, following something he said is "and these are not words." His brilliancy is off the charts.

From a few years back:

Jews against Israel
Manfred Gerstenfeld

Anti-Semitic attacks on Israel by Israelis and Jews are frequently indistinguishable from those by gentiles. Among the specific aspects in the anti-Israel writings of some Jews are the use of their family's Holocaust experiences, their references to being Jewish or an association of some kind with Israel.

Gentile assaults on Israel and Jews often use statements from Israeli or Diaspora Jewish defamers as a legitimization.

In order to fight verbal attacks against Israel by Israelis and Diaspora Jews more effectively, a much better understanding of their background, motives and methods is required. This issue has largely been neglected by Israel and the major defense organizations.

Rest here:
[Link: www.jcpa.org...]

Happy I signed the petition to get that idiot kicked out of DePaul.

re: #51 ploome hineni

he is insane, actually

I think insane prolly gives him too much credit..I've known some great crazy people..fact,right here on this blog..heh

re: #57 buzzsawmonkey

Any news on the progress of Thomas Klocek's suit against DePaul? He got a really raw deal from the administration.

He got a pretty raw deal from the organized Chicago Jewish community too who were both late and weak in giving that guy any support. But what else is new?

re: #55 buzzsawmonkey

And thank G-d for the cause of human freedom that the combination of Philip II and Bloody Mary proved infertile.

re: #59 ploome hineni

who?

well ploome,it's like this...I'm more of a hitandrun typa cat though come ta think of it I have witnessed you GET crazy from time ta time but really that's not the same thing,is it?No names from me under the severest of pain and recrimination..

re: #61 MJ

the org. jewish comm out side of the ortho are very liberal.

You people were just too kind to Carter earlier today. Its OK though, mere words cannot express the loathing and hate I feel for that worm turd.

damn! Now I'm being nice to him.

It's getting fun downstairs.

safardic jews, jews from russia and orthodox jews aren't liberal the rest are generally liberal there are always exceptions.

re: #68 buzzsawmonkey

Worm turds serve the useful function of increasing soil fertility. Carter has yet to rise to that level.

I know, I KNOW. I owe worms an apology. Carter polutes everything he breathes on.

Dang it, I'm still too nice to that worthless vile scum sucker.
The only good he did in my life was to convince me to never vote for a dem.

re: #65 buzzsawmonkey

the jewish republican group gave him a platform to speak that i know because i was there.

re: #69 savage_nation

What did Jimmah do this time?

The list contains every thing anti American that ever was. On the thread this morning I decided to just leave rather then boil my blood with that America hating freedom hating Jew hating what ever.

An amazing fellow.
Is there a possibility that Finkelstein and X-President Carter are roomies?
If Carter could drop that sleazy southern drawl, I think they'd even sound alike.
Consider:
Both short obnoxious little runts.
Both anti-Zionists.
Both anti-Semites.
Both anti-Israelis.
Great Scott....the men are not roomies. They're clones!
Another miracle for modern science.

re: #44 buzzsre: #55 buzzsawmonkey

That's the one. He is the one who sent the Armada against England.

He also built the Escorial palace. I was there in '92, for a 500th-anniversary-of-the-expulsion-of-th e-Jews tour sponsored by the Technion. The Hebrew manuscripts there are magnificent.

I wanted to get a copy of the Jewish Tanakh published by Spain for the 500th anniversary of publishing the Shephardic text ...forgot the name! from ebay from Spain...the shipping cost was enormous!

re: #75 savage_nation

You ok now?

Still fuming, and this thread about Finkelstein aint helping.
Oh, well, I'm gonna finish my cup of tea then go play plumber and clean a few Carters out of a plugged sewer line at one of my rentals.

re: #77 buzzsawmonkey

I've noticed that too. I don't get it.

re: #65 buzzsawmonkey

If the organized Chicago Jewish community ran true to type, it scuttled for cover rather than rock the boat--particularly since the person being reamed was not Jewish, and the entity doing the reaming was a Catholic university.

But the "organized Jewish community" has been full of timeserving cowards since WWII.

The organized Jewish community in Chicago may perhaps be the most cowardly of any Federation in the country. Even Alan Dershowitz blasted them for their lack of involvement in the Finkelstein affair:

"I think the Jewish community in Chicago has been irresponsibly silent, and please quote me on that," he said. "The students have been doing a great job but the adults have not, the Jewish organizations have not. This is a Chicago problem. It's not a DePaul matter, it's an international matter and it's of great concern for the Jewish community. DePaul will become a center for hate and anti-Semitism (if Finkelstein gets tenure), and we have a stake in that as a Jewish community.

"My big complaint is with the Jewish community of Chicago, the major Jewish organizations in Chicago and the DePaul Hillel," he said. "This case reflects what I wrote in 'Chutzpah.' Jews won't speak out. They think working behind the scenes is effective. It's not. It is a failure of the Jewish community to assert its power to speak out, to demand that we be treated equally and fairly." If someone made the same types of statements about African-Americans that Finkelstein has made about Jews, "there would be marches and demonstrations and the African-American community would succeed," he said.

Later in the conversation he reiterated, "the most important point I want to make is the failure of the Chicago Jewish community to stand up to this bigotry. (They say) this is a DePaul problem. This is not a DePaul problem, this is a national problem and a Jewish problem."

[Link: www.campus-watch.org...]

re: #78 JeremyR

PIMF. The stuff in the sewer line is 100% better then Carter.

Did y'all check the comments at RedState?

EVIL
MFERS,
R

re: #81 savage_nation

Well have a good time...

LOL! Clearing turds and tampax out of an apartment house sewer line? Still better then sitting here complimenting Carter.

While we're on the general topic, anybody got the low down on this Fareed Zakaria who is all over Newsweek and has a new book out titled "The Post-American World"?

Does he really believe it's possible for Israel to suffer a major military defeat and still continue to exist?

Adam Gadhan Lite

re: #77 buzzsawmonkey

it would seem the same people that support bibi were in this group as well.

re: #85 savage_nation

pimf...

Red County, the original link in Charles's post.

RE
TARGET,
R

re: #87 infidelia

While we're on the general topic, anybody got the low down on this Fareed Zakaria who is all over Newsweek and has a new book out titled "The Post-American World"?

Indian Muslim, left of center. Initially in favor of Iraq war then went big time the other way when the Saudis condemned it. Ivy League education. Used to be International Editor. Now general censor for all things Muslim at Newsweak.

re: #88 Genosaurer

No. He does not expect Israel to survive.

Finklestein denies the Holocaust even as he seeks a new one to finish the job.

ACCOUNTABLE,
R

re: #93 savage_nation

yuk!

Damn, maybe you should get on that show called Dirty Jobs. I think its on Discovery Channel

The lasttime I did this building, I was so covered with shit that I stepped out to my truck, opened the door, stripped naked, tossed the clothes in hte back, hopped in and drove home, pulled up to the back door and sprinted into the house directly to the shower.

Wow, Finkledude is profoundly stupid. If Israel doesn`t maintain a high state of military preparedness, she will cease to exist. If one lives surrounded by knife-wielding psychopaths bent on homicide, packing a couple pistols seems prudent. He says he wants Israel to suffer a defeat like Germany and Japan in 1945. I wonder what type of Marshall Plan Fink`s Mideastern heroes have in store for Israel after the fire-bombing?

re: #96 JeremyR

Its a bad line in that in cannot be augered from anywhere except below where it clogs.

re: #98 savage_nation

Yes. Its not their fault, the building was built in th 1920's during prohibition and the gangster era. Every room had an escape hatch hidden in it. The builder, a guy named Flora hid many of the gangs supposedly including Bonnie and Clyde.

re: #83 buzzsawmonkey

Yeah, I don't get that either.

re: #103 savage_nation

Oh, thats some cool trivia.

My wife grew up in Kitchener, Ontario and there is a house up there that Al Capone owned. He used to hide out there when the G-Men raided his operations in Detroit.

The guy who told me about it was a young deputy. The shower stalls were 8 inch concrete to the front but had a window covered with stucco to the outside. The guy could sit in the shower and be protected, shoot arround the door and kick through the wall and escape.
The third guy to do it got a suprise. They were waiting and slapped leg irons on as soon as he kicked through, but they were chained to a squad car who then went for a drive dragging the loser down the road.

re: #21 Psaturn

And how come lemmings still exist?

Partly because lemmings do not, in fact, follow each other over cliffs en masse:

The truth about lemmings

Another fraud perpetrated on the world by The Walt Disney Company.

What is it about Californian Universities? Fruitcakes like Finkelstein are bound to exist in every age and every culture. What baffles me is why UC Irvine continues to give idiots like this a platform to spew such inaccurate, intolerant, and hateful bile. Could this be the same bunch of people who elected Tom Lantos to office?

re: #94 pat

Indian Muslim, left of center. Initially in favor of Iraq war then went big time the other way when the Saudis condemned it. Ivy League education. Used to be International Editor. Now general censor for all things Muslim at Newsweak.

That's the impression I got. In the B****rs where I work there he is in Newsweak and his book is on order, and Obama id all over Time on the magazine rack , but Andrew McCarthy'd Willful Blindness, Warraq's Defending the West, Phares' The Confrontation, Kratman's Caliphate, and Bostom's Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism are nowhere to be found.

re: #107 Opilio

Partly because lemmings do not, in fact, follow each other over cliffs en masse:

The truth about lemmings

Another fraud perpetrated on the world by The Walt Disney Company.

Wow thanks for clarifying my view of lemmings !

Talk about deception !

It is same as the Tiuskegee Experiment. It is not what Wright said it happened.

re: #111 savage_nation

We need a little more justice like that.

LOL. I can name a few I'd love to see get educated like that.

Well, the tea is finished, so I'm off to play plumber.

re: #31 Wm T Sherman

OT: Bizarre story from the UK.
'Gang of girls 'blew up house with home-made bomb over row about boy'

Thanks for the follow up on that story. A gang of girls did it? With purple liquid? Wow. Kids today...

Am off to enjoy Mother's Day.

Enjoy the rest of the day.

re: #105 ploome hineni

I get impatient and po'd

especially when people will not defend their more rediculous statements, and then others, concerned that someone is being challanged

pile on

/and you using "ta" is what? cute?

I agree that you get impatient and po'd..

re: #57 buzzsawmonkey

Any news on the progress of Thomas Klocek's suit against DePaul? He got a really raw deal from the administration.

According to Wiki:

Klocek's claims for breach of contract were dismissed with prejudice (meaning that the court found them meritless and they cannot be refiled) on January 30, 2006. The court did not rule on his other claims but instead transferred them to a different division of the court.

re: #114 NoSubmission

Thanks for the follow up on that story. A gang of girls did it? With purple liquid? Wow. Kids today...

What is purple and liquid and blows up when it vaporizes? Apparently that's what these idiots were using.

re: #119 infidelia

What is purple and liquid and blows up when it vaporizes? Apparently that's what these idiots were using.

drunken Barney?

Wright knows about as much about history as he knows about time travel

methyl ethyl ketone,

re: #119 infidelia

What is purple and liquid and blows up when it vaporizes? Apparently that's what these idiots were using.

A pre-emptive work accident would have been nice.

re: #124 pat

methyl ethyl ketone,

peroxide, where you going with this?

methyl ethyl ketone
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #128 pat

methyl ethyl ketone
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Whatever happened to a good ol' fashioned toilet papering or egging?

re: #126 Thanos

peroxide, where you going with this?

Get my hair done? It is a hair raiser and will bring out the high lights

explodes like acetone vapor

re: #128 pat

methyl ethyl ketone
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Used to use plain MEK for fiberglassing

re: #132 buzzsawmonkey

If you TP someone's house, Ward Churchill will object on the grounds that it is disrespectful to the Plains Indians.

Well obviously Ward Churchill has never had a row over a boy...

speaking of weird chemicals, did you guys read 60 Japanese girls have committed suicide by manufacturing hydrogen sulfide in their rooms after a recipe was posted on line. That shit lingers so family is sometimes injured trying to save their kids

re: #1 Psaturn

Yikes...a self hating Jew... I think he is a Jew, right?

He's the type of Jew who bashes Israel and then pulls his Jew card as a shield against antisemitism. My (Jewish) father-in-law has a term for people like him which I will not write here.

Jewish Historian Ken Spiro says that there's no more dangerous anti-Semite than a Jew who's trying to out-gentile the gentiles.

They come up with some of the most dangerous libels.

re: #133 Thanos

Used to use plain MEK for fiberglassing

Ditto. Have some in my closet. expensive shit tho.

re: #133 Thanos

Used to use plain MEK for fiberglassing

Is that the stuff you use in plastic plumbing to clean the joints prior to applying the adhesive? Same color. Highly volatile.

re: #135 pat

What were they trying to do with the hydrogen sulfide?!

re: #137 savage_nation

No but I will see if something pops up and post if can

re: #141 Dianna

What were they trying to do with the hydrogen sulfide?!

commit suicide. I read it in the economist.

re: #144 pat

I can think of a bunch of ways that would be simpler and much less dreadful. Of course, I'm not a teenage girl being dramatic, either.

found it, above

I found this online concerning the Japanese.

Don't forget. these are very middle class, successful teens, with everything to look forward to. And likely their parents only child

re: #149 buzzsawmonkey

Where does one find hydrogen sulfide gas? Is it a byproduct of heavy sushi dining?

You make it. Clorox and Ammonia if I remember correctly

I just got here and it seems we are talking about self hating Jews and Hydrogen Sulfide Gas. Strange combination.

I think everyone is reading

re: #138 Dayenu

Jewish Historian Ken Spiro says that there's no more dangerous anti-Semite than a Jew who's trying to out-gentile the gentiles.

They come up with some of the most dangerous libels.

So it would not be a surprise that the future Anti Messhiach could be a Jew? A Jew who decided Man was god and not the one G-d's choice for the Messhiach?

re: #153 Nevergiveup

I just got here and it seems we are talking about self hating Jews and Hydrogen Sulfide Gas. Strange combination.

Sounds like an explosive subject !

I am going to do way out on a limb and bet Norm Finklestein is a Obama supporter.

re: #159 savage_nation

He's probably on the short list of an Obama cabinet post.

Short list or shit list?

re: #62 Ojoe

And thank G-d for the cause of human freedom that the combination of Philip II and Bloody Mary proved infertile.

Elizabeth Tudor also did not produce offspring. Philip II sent the armada in order to throw Elizabeth off the throne and install Mary of Scotland, and in the end it was James Stuart, Mary's son, who inherited the throne from Elizabeth.

re: #153 Nevergiveup

I just got here and it seems we are talking about self hating Jews and Hydrogen Sulfide Gas. Strange combination.

I wouldn't suggest combining the two.

/

re: #136 kevinmumaw

I got a word for him.

"Kapo."

re: #164 buzzsawmonkey

Yet, curiously, Jimmy Stewart never starred in a historical costume drama.

Height and accent.

re: #165 Dayenu

I got a word for him.

"Kapo."

Um... what happened to the Kapos?

Greetings, Everyone! I hope everyone had a very nice Mother's Day!

re: #171 savage_nation

They met the same fate as all the other Jews. Murdered by strutting animals in black uniforms.

Thus demonstrating the futility of collaboration.

re: #163 savage_nation

Either/or.

Or Ambassador to Israel.

Sorry, I think Farrakan has that one locked up under an Obama administration. But if Finkelstein makes some anti-Catholic remarks he could just be the new envoy to the Vatican.

Think Al Sharpton will do a bang up job at Department of Justice too.

"Yes, we can !"

There is an obvious flaw in Finkelstein's analogy: The Allies never set out to destroy German and all Germans, and Germany actively sought to conquer the world. Israel needs to be armed to defend itself against enemies who seek its demise. If Israel does suffer the devastating defeat Finkelstein hopes for, there will be no Israel and, so, nothing that could learn the lessons he imagines. Can Finkelstein really not realize this?

re: #103 savage_nation

Oh, thats some cool trivia.

My wife grew up in Kitchener, Ontario and there is a house up there that Al Capone owned. He used to hide out there when the G-Men raided his operations in Detroit.

Capone had ops in Detroit? I thought Detroit was Purple Gang turf.

Speaking of poisonous gasses:

re: #175 buzzsawmonkey

I despise Al Sharpton.

I prefer him to Barack Obama.

Sharpton is at least upfront about what he is; a liar, a conman, a race-hustler and rabble-rouser.

Barack Obama is Al Sharpton with a Harvard gloss, which makes it easier for him to sell Sharptonian corruption to a wider public.

He is also a rather talented entertainer, if anyone saw him on Saturday Night Live a few years ago. I guess to be a good entertainer, one has to be a liar and a charlatan. I guess that is why so many Hollywood types are democrats?

re: #152 pat
Bleach and ammonia make chlorine gas, toxic to humans but hydrogen sulfide is new one to me. Shampoo and detergent per wiki. Crazy and sad.

re: #175 buzzsawmonkey

I despise Al Sharpton.

I prefer him to Barack Obama.

Sharpton is at least upfront about what he is; a liar, a conman, a race-hustler and rabble-rouser.

Barack Obama is Al Sharpton with a Harvard gloss, which makes it easier for him to sell Sharptonian corruption to a wider public.

Plus, Sharpton is a good dancer, he used to tour or something with James Brown.

Who will be Obama's Tawana Brawley I wonder?

off topic
I was in Philadelphia. The Wawas are collecting for the family of the murdered police officer- and almost everyone I saw put something in the big jar.

The 7-11 in Bensalem(a philly burb) had a sign on the door showing three drawings of guys in ski mask , a surgical mask and some other face covering. The sign said they could(or would) refuse service to anyone wearing any sort of face covering. No drawing of a burka or chador but I guess they can turn them away too. This was not a sign this store had but a printed one made so perhaps all the 7-11s have them. I will check mine tomorrow(far from Philly). I don't know if this is new-I haven't been to that 7-11 in some time. I also was more alert to it because of the murder and the murderers' face coverings.

And while I haven't brought this up before- can I say without being banned that I strongly believe in the death penalty?

re: #183 madisonsfriend
You sure can in Texas! My neighbor always says "you come to Texas to kill someone and we kill ya back"! hahaha. I am not a believer in the death penalty but that is a funny statement to me.

re: #43 Psaturn

Spain, 1492. Ferdinand and Isabella ordered all Jews out of the country on pain of death. That ban was finally lifted by Generalissimo Francisco Franco.

Let's see if the spineless America-haters at the New University (UCI campus rag) bother to report this, or if they continue to whitewash the terror-supporting Muslim Student Union.

I'm not holding my breath waiting for them to report the facts.

re: #185 Steffan

Spain, 1492. Ferdinand and Isabella ordered all Jews out of the country on pain of death. That ban was finally lifted by Generalissimo Francisco Franco.

Is he still dead?

Do we really need to be posting home recipes for poisonous gasses?

/just because it can be found on the internet doesn't mean it needs to be reposted here

re: #189 Killian Bundy

Do we really need to be posting home recipes for poisonous gasses?

/just because it can be found on the internet doesn't mean it needs to be reposted here

I find eating pizza followed by ice cream can create a poisonous gas. Before Sadaam was caught, it was suggested I eat that meal and sit on the vent to his bunker.

re: #185 Steffan

Spain, 1492. Ferdinand and Isabella ordered all Jews out of the country on pain of death. That ban was finally lifted by Generalissimo Francisco Franco.

I know...

Did you know Franco was a marrano?

re: #188 madisonsfriend

Is he still dead?

Critically dead but pro choice elements want his life supports terminated.

re: #189 Killian Bundy

Agreed.

re: #189 Killian Bundy

Do we really need to be posting home recipes for poisonous gasses?

/just because it can be found on the internet doesn't mean it needs to be reposted here

Burrito, burrito!

re: #191 Psaturn

OK, I'm not familiar with that word -- what's a "marrano"?

-- Ann

re: #194 Alouette

Burrito, burrito!

Homemade Chili .

re: #195 Empire1

OK, I'm not familiar with that word -- what's a "marrano"?

-- Ann

Wikipedia is your friend!

Marranos or Secret Jews (Spanish and Portuguese, literally "pigs" in the Spanish language, originally a derogatory term from the Arabic %u0645%u062D%u0631%u0651%u0645 muharram meaning "ritually forbidden," stemming from the prohibition against eating the flesh of the animal among both Jews and Muslims), were Sephardic Jews (Jews from the Iberian peninsula) who were forced to adopt the identity of Christians, either through coercion as a consequence of the persecution of Jews by the Spanish Inquisition and Portuguese Inquisition, or who, for form's sake, became Roman Catholic converts. Many Marranos maintained their ancestral traditions as crypto-Jews, by publicly professing Roman Catholicism but secretly adhering to Judaism.

In both Portuguese and Spanish, the term marrano acquired the meaning of "swine" or "filthy" (but in contemporary Spanish it has no association with Jews); and in Portuguese it was used for Jews because they did not eat pork.

These "conversos" (converts), as they were also called in Spain and Portugal, numbered over 100,000 in all of Iberia[citation needed]. They were also known by the name of "Cristianos nuevos" and "Cristãos novos" (New Christians) in Spain and Portugal, respectively, "Xuetes" (Xua, a Catalan word referring to a pork recipe that was consumed publicly by Xuetes to demonstrate the sincerity of their Catholicism) in the Balearic Isles, and "Anusim" (constrained) by Hebrew-speakers. ("Anusim" is a general word for forced converts from Judaism, and is not specific to this period.)

re: #195 Empire1

OK, I'm not familiar with that word -- what's a "marrano"?

-- Ann

Jews who during the Inquisition converted to Catholicism but secretly practiced Judaism. In some cases, certain Jewish religious rituals were practiced by the family through generations although the descendants sometimes had no idea what the rituals meant or that they were Jewish. Now some of these crypto-Jews- secret Jews- are learning what they were doing and are converting back to Judaism.

re: #193 Killgore Trout
Chemistry is part of science last time I checked and I certainly did not give the recipe. You know

SCIENCE

re: #197 Psaturn

Wikipedia is your friend!

I don't trust Wikipedia for very much, but you're right; I should've done a Clusty search first.

I do want to thank you for telling me, though, since I've been rather distracted this afternoon; our larger dog came down with a limp after a run, and I can't get hold of the vet till tomorrow.

-- Ann

re: #190 madisonsfriend

I find eating pizza followed by ice cream can create a poisonous gas. Before Sadaam was caught, it was suggested I eat that meal and sit on the vent to his bunker.

That would be blend of primarily air, hydrogen sulfide, H₂S, methane, CH₄, and methyl mercaptan (methanethiol), CH₃SH.

So what did I miss?

re: #199 snowcrash

I'm not really following the thread, just be careful.

Sheesh - this isn't really much of a Mother's Day thread....

...except mom taught me not to use bleach & chlorine together.

Or, If I ever find a time machine I'm going to kill Hitlers mother, then buy stock during the depression... which might not happen?

re: #201 Empire1

I don't trust Wikipedia for very much, but you're right; I should've done a Clusty search first.

I do want to thank you for telling me, though, since I've been rather distracted this afternoon; our larger dog came down with a limp after a run, and I can't get hold of the vet till tomorrow.

-- Ann

Well...Wikipedia is a lazy way to get an answer. Apparently Master Lizard Johnson seems to 'trust' it or at least use it quite a bit...

Sorry about your doggie..

Mine died about a month ago and I still trying to get over it ...

re: #4 A Kiwi Infidel

That's two words. :)

-ron

re: #204 Killgore Trout
I definitely defer to you and KB, no problem.

re: #205 slokat

Sheesh - this isn't really much of a Mother's Day thread....

...except mom taught me not to use bleach & chlorine together.

Or, If I ever find a time machine I'm going to kill Hitlers mother, then buy stock during the depression... which might not happen?

It has been postulated that it was Hitler's sadistic father that was the problem not so much his mother. And you gotta be careful what you change when you go back remember.

re: #208 snowcrash

I definitely defer to you and KB, no problem.

/it was upthread too

re: #198 madisonsfriend

Jews who during the Inquisition converted to Catholicism but secretly practiced Judaism. In some cases, certain Jewish religious rituals were practiced by the family through generations although the descendants sometimes had no idea what the rituals meant or that they were Jewish. Now some of these crypto-Jews- secret Jews- are learning what they were doing and are converting back to Judaism.

Some are converting back? This may sound odd coming from a Pagan, but YAY! I root for the Jews and cheer for (and worry about!) Israel.

-- Ann

re: #210 Killian Bundy
I'd rather hear it from you than the man with the stick!

Got a call this PM from an Obama operative wanting to let me know that she was an Obama supporter and asked me if I had any questions for her. I asked her why? After a pregnant pause she told me he was bring together the common man to overcome special interest groups. I paraphrase of course. I laughed and told her I wouldn't vote for him and that I couldn't understand why she should either. At that juncture, she hung up on me!

re: #213 Cap'n DOC

Got a call this PM from an Obama operative wanting to let me know that she was an Obama supporter and asked me if I had any questions for her. I asked her why? After a pregnant pause she told me he was bring together the common man to overcome special interest groups. I paraphrase of course. I laughed and told her I wouldn't vote for him and that I couldn't understand why she should either. At that juncture, she hung up on me!

Ironically the special interest groups are not financially supporting McCain but are supporting Obama and Hillary...

Maybe McCain is the one to vote for if you are against special interests !

Party primaries coming up in this state. I haven't received any calls from the Republicans yet.

I see Finkelstein as an Obama man.

re: #216 NoSubmission

Loose CHANGE!

re: #214 Psaturn

Ironically the special interest groups are not financially supporting McCain but are supporting Obama and Hillary...

Maybe McCain is the one to vote for if you are against special interests !

Just what exactly is a special interest group? My special interest is the security of this country. Is that a bad special interest?

re: #206 Psaturn

Mine died about a month ago and I still trying to get over it ...

You have my sympathy! Our two are members of the family, and I'm sure yours was too. Are you planning on getting another? We kinda have to, when we lose one; the emptiness hurts, even though we know it's going to be a new kid, not a replacement.

-- Ann

Good evening, Lizards.

re: #218 Nevergiveup

Just what exactly is a special interest group? My special interest is the security of this country. Is that a bad special interest?

I think usually it is understood as being the big pharma, big oil, big labor, big businesses?

re: #217 Cap'n DOC

Loose CHANGE!

I wish one of those Obmama supporters would call me.

re: #215 Cap'n DOC

Party primaries coming up in this state. I haven't received any calls from the Republicans yet.

Your lucky. I am getting inundated with calls from the Republicans. If you give money once, your on the list or eternity.

Nonie Darwish's posters advertising her appearance on the campus were removed due to orders of Sally Peterson, dean of students at UCI and the campus administration. They are silencing the voice of a Muslim woman who left Islam and Egypt to seek freedom and democracy, but has seen the ideals of what she came for, being destroyed by the left. This is unbelieveable, and sick. We must not let UCI get away with censorship of the truth, while promoting hatred on the campus. We must act now. Go to
[Link: shariahfinancewatch.wordpress.com,...] and go to the UCI petition link, and sign it to demand due diligence from the administration.

re: #219 Empire1

You have my sympathy! Our two are members of the family, and I'm sure yours was too. Are you planning on getting another? We kinda have to, when we lose one; the emptiness hurts, even though we know it's going to be a new kid, not a replacement.

-- Ann

Thanks! He was a very special doggie ! He was 20 yrs old and he was a Shih Tzu. Every time I see one walking on the street reminds me of him, wagging his tail and walking proudly like a little lion...

I do not plan to get another one... I don't think there is another one like Max!

It is a great responsibility to have a dog...it restricts on your travel activities for one thing....

re: #51 ploome hineni

he is insane, actually

and a traitor. to himself. his religion and his country. a three time loser.

re: #221 Psaturn

I think usually it is understood as being the big pharma, big oil, big labor, big businesses?

Hum- so Pharma groups that save millions of lives
Oil companies that keep the economy going
Business that creates jobs

Oh yeah labor unions- a subsidiary of the democratic party.

re: #216 NoSubmission

I see Finkelstein as an Obama man.

I found that Finkelstein did write on Obama:
[Link: www.normanfinkelstein.com...]

re: #227 Nevergiveup

Hum- so Pharma groups that save millions of lives
Oil companies that keep the economy going
Business that creates jobs

Oh yeah labor unions- a subsidiary of the democratic party.

Yeah and they are not financially supporting McCain...specially the big Business and Big Pharma...

He repeatedly went against them during his tenure...so they still remember that...

re: #229 Psaturn

Yeah and they are not financially supporting McCain...specially the big Business and Big Pharma...

He repeatedly went against them during his tenure...so they still remember that...

McCain is his own worse enemy.

re: #211 Empire1

Some are converting back? This may sound odd coming from a Pagan, but YAY! I root for the Jews and cheer for (and worry about!) Israel.

-- Ann

[Link: www.kulanu.org...]

Some info here and also about Jews everywhere coming to and comng back to Judaism.

re: #230 Nevergiveup

McCain is his own worse enemy.

Yeah...

Wonder if he will actually win this fall...he has shortage of money...

Conservatives don't trust him..

He is trying to reach to the Aztlan folks or the Reconquista folks...I don't think they are going to give him much money, are they ?

Big Business don't trust him...they are the ones with the deep pockets...and influence...

re: #150 pat

Don't forget. these are very middle class, successful teens, with everything to look forward to. And likely their parents only child

i heard abt. a fad a few yrs, ago. teenagers who were so bored they thought it might be interesting to "try" suicide. unbelievable. they were so young and stupid. you don't "try" suicide. you commit it and you're done.

re: #230 Nevergiveup

Oh yes and 20 % of Republicans in Primary in the last week or so voted AGAINST him....

re: #182 offendi

Plus, Sharpton is a good dancer, he used to tour or something with James Brown.

Who will be Obama's Tawana Brawley I wonder?

his wife.

spacejesus angry

re: #236 SpaceJesus

spacejesus angry

why you angry?

re: #212 snowcrash

I'd rather hear it from you than the man with the stick!

There was a bombmaking discussion once.

/Charles didn't seem to particularly care for it

re: #115 savage_nation

Keep clean!

I didn't. Time to hit the shower. As I suspected the line was clogged with tree roots. Hard to prevent when the system is 80years old.

This thread is dead but I would just like to comment that Norman Finkelstein is a respected Academic and therefore not responsible for his spoken thoughts or actions, no matter how suicidal. When I listen to elite progressives as the good professor, I am reminded of the huge casualties sustained by the US Marines in WWII just so academically accredited morons like Norman Finkelstein could masturbate his ego in front of hundreds of fawning students. The Marines were fighting for a better world. It is time we seriously address the issues presented by western academia in spirited debate. May the best idea win!

re: #235 nyc redneck

his wife.

Tawana Brawley...

Say, could one imagine Hillary Clinton found in a trashcan naked and smeared with excrement claiming she was kidnapped by three African-American men, one of whom looked suspiciously like Reverend Wright?

Well, it is still primary season after all and there are some super delegates for Hillary left to impress with Obama's.... unelectability.

Seriously as for Michelle Obama she is the gift that keeps on giving politically, besides my sense that she has Barry very well hen-pecked and will possibly be a great source of distraction in the fall

re: #216 NoSubmission

I see Finkelstein as an Obama man.

I see him as an Osama man.

re: #243 solomonpanting

I see him as an Osama man.

Did you see my post #228?

re: #244 Psaturn

Did you see my post #228?

Just read it and he appears to be, shall we say, unimpressed with the guy. But for all of his anti-Israeli rants, I think Finkelstein is more of an Osama man.

re: #11 LeonidasOfSparta

Why do the most wealthy liberals believe in Marxism/Communism where the economic tenate is: from each according to his ability (bank account) to each according to his need;

You misunderstand, the wealthy will have everything, you will need nothing. You will get ONLY what you need, they will keep everything else. Socialism/communism is the biggest class system based on wealth. The poor take care of the very poor, the wealthy never have to deal with "those people" this is why the wealthy libs in the big cities love it so much, the problem won't be their problem.

Finkelstein's mom survived the holocaust only to spawn THIS? The irony...

re: #57 buzzsawmonkey

Sorry for the late reply. I have not been able to find any recent print information but a friend who follows DePaul activities says the issue is still hung up in the judicial system.

Throughout the ages, some Jews have become the most vile Jew haters. I believe it is a mental illness.

Finkelstein's mother was a kapo - he has real gall in defending himself as being a child of Holocaust survivors when his mother helped the Nazis. Finkelstein is doing the same thing today - following in the footsteps of his mother. He is an absolute lunatic.

It's sad when I think of all the people murdered in the holocaust and that this scum was spared for some reason.