With the amount of gouging they are doing for oil, I guess they can throw their money around. Too bad most of it comes with marionette strings attached.

I should dig up the Demosthenes quote for this.

Bush Sr. and James Baker also?

We're getting sold out by both political parties.

Jimmy's nut farming is paying big dividends it appears.

Every time Alwaleed bin Talal shows his face, he tries to hurt the USA. Rudy Giuliani was right tell him off. Every American needs to remember that Saudi Oil Ticks are not our friends.

Here we go:

"There was once, O men of Athens, something in the minds of the people that is no longer there --something that defeated the might and wealth of Persia, that vindicated the liberty of Greece, the was never conquered on land or sea, and that is now gone, leaving all Greece in turmoil and dismay.

"And what was that? Nothing elaborate or abstruse, but the simple fact all men hated those who took bribes from the seekers of power and the agents of subversion. That was accounted the greatest of crimes, so that he who was convicted of having been corrupted of bribes or by favors was condemned to the ultimate penalty, with no room for excuse and no hope for pardon.

... But now everything is for sale ... For what are now the consequnces of treason? Envy, for those who have profited; laughter for those who confess; pardon for those who are convicted; and hatred--hatred is now reserved for the man who speaks harshly of treason."

-- Demosthenes, 341 B.C. (written three years before Athens lost her independence) ,

What darkness in the soul can cause a person to accept a gift like this? You would just really have to care about nothing but money.

our oil from them at work

How can they in good conscience accept money from someone who is essentially a medieval tyrant?

With all their communist pretensions, these academics are not above being bribed by an elitist aristocrat who did nothing to earn his wealth except inherit it through a dynastic thugocracy?

Despicable hypocrites, all.

Well everyone is for sale these days. I just wish that we had better people doing the buying.

/Oh wait, better people don't need to hide just behind money.

re: #6 The Other Les

You got up-dinged and hearted for that one!

I keep being surprised how cheaply some things are being bought, considering what's being sold.

universities all over USA are taking Saudi money. In the 1970s, US domestic drilling hit its peak now we purchase our oil from all around – they are only 16% but that is daily.

Carter remains the only U.S. President to have formally reported a UFO. Lot of firsts for that man.

He also gave a $5 million gift to support Harvard Medical School’s research center in Dubai.

Just what the world needs, more Muslim doctors.

re: #16 Consanescerion

Think maybe he was actually abducted and experimented upon?

/would explain a lot.

Instead of trying to buy souls, can't they at least try to play some fiddle for them?

re: #11 ggt

You got up-dinged and hearted for that one!

Thanks.

Bringing the madrassas here! Shame on the institutes that accept petro-dollars from terrorist-supporting countries.

re: #15 savage_nation

James Baker is a fucking pig. What did you expect from that fuckstick?

Isn't he the one who started this whole "We must talk to our enemies" thing?
Obama took him literally.

re: #20 savage_nation

Why the hell didnt they scoop him up and take him away?

Perhaps they did. It as close to a reasonable explanation as we're going to get for his behavior.

Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, chairman of Kingdom Foundation, had endowed $20 million in 2005 to establish an Islamic Studies program at Harvard University.

Last year, the guy was worth $29.5 billion. That's probably way up over $32 billion by now, considering the price of oil. To him, $20 million is the equivalent of vending machine money, something to toss in the penny tray at the corner store. And these dhimmis compete with each to see who can grovel the lowest to receive his largesse.

It's a humiliating master-slave scenario on a grotesque scale.

If we never seriously entered WWII it would be the Adolf Hitler National Socialist Studies Department. Let us celebrate!

James Baker is the Republicans' Carter.

re: #29 savage_nation

Shit, we could have gotten ion drive technology!

Antigravity and lightspeed circumvention technology.

re: #29 savage_nation

Shit, we could have gotten ion drive technology!

ummm we did. :)

had endowed $20 million in 2005 to establish an Islamic Studies program at Harvard University. He was at Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts,

Its high time Harvard gets shut down...this is too much.

I'm interested in the whole "anti-matter converter" concept.

Just think of the possibilities!

re: #9 zombie

How can they in good conscience accept money from someone who is essentially a medieval tyrant?

With all their communist pretensions, these academics are not above being bribed by an elitist aristocrat who did nothing to earn his wealth except inherit it through a dynastic thugocracy?

Despicable hypocrites, all.

actually the US began to back the Saudis during Carter administration because they were anti-communists. They do not like the whabis islam , but pay them not to attack ( -1980s incident at Mecca). It is complicated but the US has supported tyrants since world war II, in its cold war ideology. Carter has Breskinski, a hardline conservative in his cabinet. Carter started the Muhajadeen movement against the Soviet threat, Regan picked up on it afterward.

Breskinski, former National Security Adviser to Jimmy Carter

Islam=Bombs, beheadings and barbarism or peace, flowers and kids flying kites.
Which conclusion do you think they'll come to at Harvard?

If one really, objectively studied Islam -- one would come to an entirely different conclusion than what you'd come to following bin Talal's "Islamic Studies Program".

I heard McCain say today that he will not drill in ANWR.

We're screwed! We need to drill for oil in our own backyard so we tell the oil ticks to go fuck themselves...and none of our leaders are willing to do it!

re: #17 bosforus

Just what the world needs, more Muslim doctors.

Muslim doctors refuse to 'scub up' in U.K hospitals

re: #20 savage_nation

Why the hell didnt they scoop him up and take him away?

He's one of those "hybrids" the alien abduction people are always yammering on about on the Art Bell Show.

re: #35 ggt

I'm interested in the whole "anti-matter converter" concept.

Just think of the possibilities!

Why antimatter? Why not direct conversion of matter to energy?

re: #35 ggt

I'm interested in the whole "anti-matter converter" concept.

Just think of the possibilities!

But if it's anti-matter, does it really matter?

re: #42 The Other Les

Why antimatter? Why not direct conversion of matter to energy?

Controlled or uncontrolled?

Alwaleed bin Talal = Guido Sarducci

Somewhat OT: Speaking of oil, the average price of gas in my area is now $4.05/gal. for RU. If this trend continues I'm gonna hafta start selling my plasma just to keep my little four-banger moving.

Sorta pisses all over that lame-ass "No Blood for Oil" meme, in more ways than one.

re: #45 BlueCanuck

Controlled or uncontrolled?

Controlled, of course.

[Link: www.schlockmercenary.com...]

re: #49 savage_nation

Gimme a wormhole and I can go back in time and cut Mohammeds fucking head off.

You do realized that you'll butterfly effect all of us here out of existence?

Oh, come on, this is hilarious!

This guy just blew millions of dollars on the failed ideology of Marxism. Personally, I would have spent it on booze and

Never mind.

I like this tidbit from his wikipedia page:

Then there is the new $100 million palace. Even in Saudi Arabia, they are not building houses like this one any longer. In February, Alwaleed and his children are scheduled to move into a sand-colored palace whose 317 rooms are adorned with 1,500 tons of Italian marble, silk Oriental carpets, gold-plated faucets and 250 TV sets. It will have four kitchens, for Lebanese, Arabic, Continental and Asian cuisines, and a fifth just for dishing up desserts, run by chefs who can feed 2,000 people on an hour's notice. Their royal highnesses will be able to swim in a lagoon-shaped pool, or catch a film in the 45-seat basement cinema.[12]

BTW, the wikipedia page miscontrues his financial history, making it seem like he built up his fortune himself. But of course hidden in the sentence

Funded by a $30,000 loan from his father and a $300,000 mortgage on his house, he initially brokered deals with foreign firms wishing to do business in Saudi Arabia.[citations needed]

...is the unspoken fact that as the Prince of Saudi Arabia he essentially had personal control of the whole country, and foreign firms HAD to go through him. He basically was given a monopoly as his birthright.

"Citation needed" makes me think one of his minions edited the page to his liking.

re: #42 The Other Les

I don't understand this stuff --I just know they are always talking about "anti-matter" on the Sci-Fi channel shows and in Sci-Fi books.

It seems really, really kewl!

Perhaps because we'd run out of matter --and anti-matter is currently an untapped resource?

/just conjecturing.

is this the same prince that owns a 15% share of FOX?
I haven't kept up to date with there business deals, help from an older lizardoid?

re: #17 bosforus

Just what the world needs, more Muslim doctors.

Oh, the GasCaniStan Man. I remember something about him getting kicked in the nuts by a cabbie – which he richly deserved.

Harvard's going Muslim.

re: #55 ggt

I don't understand this stuff --I just know they are always talking about "anti-matter" on the Sci-Fi channel shows and in Sci-Fi books.

It seems really, really kewl!

Perhaps because we'd run out of matter --and anti-matter is currently an untapped resource?

/just conjecturing.

The big problem is that there is at present no known source of natural antimatter. It all has to be created. Which if you do it on Earth means plugging into already existing energy sources.

re: #56 victor3>=D

Using their money is an interesting tactic. I don't know how the law works, but I think there are different laws for money from outside the US. Meaning, it could work to our advantage. I mean, what are they going to do if they don't like what we do with the money? We are the one's holding.

I am sure the program's first Honorary Doctorate will be given to 00bama.

re: #59 The Other Les

ah, thus the need for the Asgard power source as the ZPM will not support the anti-matter converter.

/Now, I understand.

re: #55 ggt

Antimatter exists. They have made a few particles in particle supercolliders. And about 13 years ago they even managed to make a couple of atoms of anti-hydrogen(scroll down on the page). The unfortunate problem is right now the energy costs to make antimatter is prohibitive.

So now Harvard's gone sharia?
/s

re: #64 ggt

ah, thus the need for the Asgard power source as the ZPM will not support the anti-matter converter.

/Now, I understand.

The late Sir Arthur C. Clarke was a big supporter of the concept of ZPE.

re: #63 savage_nation

But, I thought we weren't using that much of their oil. The majority of our oil was coming from other places.

There are our citizens in the KSA to be concerned about.

re: #67 The Other Les

ZP "E"?

Re #61 ggt

Perhaps send a nice man with a wired vest? Or accuse us of Islamophobia. The way "educational" institutions kowtow to idiotic multiculturalism, the money will likely be used in a manner acceptable to the Saudis.

re: #44 savage_nation

oh great, and dont forget Richard C. Hoagland and Planet X!

Cydonia!

Ever read "Semper Mars"? US Marines battle French and Chicom UN troops for control of alien artifacts on Mars. Author basically takes the whole Hoagland alien artifacts on Mars concept and runs wild with it. It's a fun read.

re: #64 ggt

ZPE actually is probably within our reach. Just needs a lot more research to actually get it up and running.

/ZPE is zero point energy. the joy of quantum mechanics.

re: #70 ggt

ZP "E"?

Zero Point Energy.

re: #65 BlueCanuck

"Antimatter is said to be the most expensive substance in existence, with an estimated cost of $300 billion per milligram. "

Yikes!

In order to render these oil ticks obsolete we definitely need a "Manhattan" project to get beyond fossil fuels. Ethanols, and bio-diesels are nice and renewable but they still don't go beyond our current technology. What we need is something new and radical.

re: #73 BlueCanuck

ah!

re: #72 Colonel Panik

Cydonia!

Ever read "Semper Mars"? US Marines battle French and Chicom UN troops for control of alien artifacts on Mars. Author basically takes the whole Hoagland alien artifacts on Mars concept and runs wild with it. It's a fun read.

I'm probably going to get banned for this:

A Really Evil Idea, Updated.

It was originally posted on the Traveller Mailing List in 2002.

The only way to wean ourselves from Middle East oil is to drill everywhere in the U.S. that we can, for the short term.
For the long term, we need to build a plethora of nuclear power plants. We can use the nuclear power to generate copious quantities electricity needed to create hydrogen so we can utilize fuel cells to power more vehicles.

Either way, we need to get the hell away from our dependency on Middle East oil...these people are blood sucking theives!
And the sooner the better!

re: #71 victor3>=D

But it is not in their interest to bankrupt us. After-all we can live with out them and their oil --not well, but better than they can live in the f@cking desert without our money.

I attended a Lara Deeb (from UC Irvine) lecture at the Baker Institute at Rice a few weeks ago.
She began by telling us about Israel's assault on Lebanon in July 2006.
She had a power point slide show. She showed several photos of before and after shots of Beirut and other places- How this place was peaceful and beautiful, until Israel came along and started bombing innocent civilians. She gave no context, and did not say why Israel would be doing this.
She said even today innocent people are coming across bomblets made in the US, and distributed by Israel, and injuries and deaths are occuring. Her talk went on in this manner.
I was so pleased during the Q and A period, when most of the audience had great questions for her, and she had ridiculous explanations. It wasn't a friendly audience for her.
Went again last Wed., to hear Aaron David Miller speak.
The topic was "America's Elusive Search for
Arab-Israeli Peace: A Negotiatior Looks Back".
He was introduced by James Baker.
He considers 3 men to be in his "hall of fame" for their good works in
peace efforts, and they are: Jimmy Carter, Henry Kissinger, and James
Baker.
He believes it's important for Abbas and Olmert to engage in talks,
and produce documents; an agreement on paper is valuable. Only a few questions were asked. A historian (professor?) from Rice
asked why all three pres. candidates were pro-Israel. He said that
like it's a bad thing. The audience this time was polite, and seemed to believe the speaker and mostly agree with him.
Pretty disgusting.
No individual or institution should take money from Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, or anyone like him. For shame!

re: #84 savage_nation

Yeah, I have seen and heard a bit about it. Still doesn't answer the new motive source of energy. What we should be saving oil for is the chemical bounty it represents. It's not just used for fuel.

re: #68 ggt

But, I thought we weren't using that much of their oil. The majority of our oil was coming from other places.

There are our citizens in the KSA to be concerned about.

True, about 70% of US oil imports come from Canada or Mexico. However, oil is a globally traded commodity so the oil we import from Canada & Mexico would go to Europe and Asia if arabia cut off the spigots. Also reduced supply means... say it with me class even higher prices.

Well...it is apparent that this is a thread we all can agree ! Whew !

So Saudi money is buying influence ...

And if our universities will conform to Saudi and Muslim ideals...doesn't that means we are whoring our universities? You know, sell our universities for a price? The way a whore gives her body to the john who pays her the money...

Guiliani understood that part...too bad he is not running for President...

re: #89 savage_nation

Night savage. Drive safe.

Good night.

Windows encountered some problem and shut me down. What a PITA.

re: #92 ggt

Isn't it wonderful? M$ the gift that keeps on giving.

/

I worry everytime I go into an Italian restaurant that someone is going to order pasta and antipasta and there is going to be a huge flash of light and...

re: #87 Neo Con since 9-11

higher prices than the Saudi's are going to charge? I'd rather be paying that money to democracies than to the KSA.

re: #94 Colonel Panik

LOL

re: #97 ploome hineni

did you see my answer to you on the other thread?

I just saw that....so you think Medura is not a Jew? At least she acknowledges she is an atheist...

re: #94 Colonel Panik

roflol!

And, I might have said this before, but I love your avatar and quote. :)

This endowment will make it possible to add strength in important disciplines such as the history of science and new areas of study

No doubt the persons of importance to be studied will be those countless Muslim scientists--Muhammad Newton, Muhammad Pasteur,
Muhammad Einstein, Muhammad Whitney, Muhammad Galilei.....

well, weet dreams everybody.

Must.
Forcibly
Pull.
Myself.
Away.
From.
Parking.
Wars.......

re: #100 ploome hineni

I think Medura is a team

lol

who thinks volume and vocabulary make her case

Well...Medura does have an impressive vocabulary !

And the verbose insults were quite interesting...and she said she was Albanian?

re: #98 psaturn

I think she needs to live with her husband to be for at least 10 years and have children before she decides the best fate of the world.

re: #102 ploome hineni

it used to be called dawah

now it is called endowing an islamic chair

same thing

how many CHristian endowments do the Saudis allow?

that is the measure

Good point ! OR a Jewish one !

re: #105 ggt

I think she needs to live with her husband to be for at least 10 years and have children before she decides the best fate of the world.

Yeah...I was thinking if she was proposing for world type government to an Islamist...they would er forcibly remove her from that nation...

So did Lance get banned for ever or is on a reall-long time-out?

I am watching God.tv and they were broadcasting what happened today all over the world...Today is the World Day of Prayer...they are broadcasting a feed from Cairo Egypt and I am watching a Coptic priest preaching ...right in open air...imagine that ! And broadcast sent to all over the world../

There was The Call in Jerusalem at the same time...there were quite a few people at the Convention Center in Jerusalem !

God.TV is broadcast from Jerusalem, Israel...

re: #108 ggt

I got the impression that it was 4ver...

It was unfortunate but I do understand it...he was getting out of line...attitude wise...

re: #99 gop_patriot

roflol!

And, I might have said this before, but I love your avatar and quote. :)

And I must say that I am quite the fan of Bucky Katt.

Some other lizard gave me the avatar when I said I was looking for a picture of "The Colonel" from Monty Python.

I'm actually a Unix Kernel.

re: #111 psaturn

Yes unfortunate. I guess I thought a long-time poster would know better.

re: #110 ploome hineni

and I am Paris Hilton

:P

Really ? How is that little chihuahua? What's his name?

Have you cut your alcohol intake ?

re: #43 RememberSekhmet?

But if it's anti-matter, does it really matter?

If it's anti-matter, you have to get up before noon.

Well, Lizards, it's way past my bedtime.

have a great evening/morning and

weet dreams!

re: #95 ggt

higher prices than the Saudi's are going to charge? I'd rather be paying that money to democracies than to the KSA.

Most people are not going to be happy at $8-$10 a gallon gasoline. The minor slow down in production from the saudis nearly doubled prices

re: #113 ggt

Yes unfortunate. I guess I thought a long-time poster would know better.

Yeah...I do understand his position too...it was getting a little personal as he probably felt his faith was attacked...being a Creationist and all...

re: #118 ploome hineni

lol

good idea, I think I will go make a margarita

brb

No no no...I mean CUT DOWN ! or are you making a virgin margarita ?

re: #117 ggt

Well, Lizards, it's way past my bedtime.

have a great evening/morning and

weet dreams!

WHAT !?

re: #117 ggt

Night ggt, Weet dreams to you tonight.

Nighties ggt

re: #124 Neo Con since 9-11

Hey, I just noticed that the slash in your nic has been replaced. Special treatment from the grand lizard? :)

re: #84 savage_nation

I have been reading up quite a bit on flywheel technologies. Pretty cutting edge stuff.

But how do they harness the flies so they are all moving in the same direction to spin the wheel? And if you need to spin a bigger wheel, I suppose houseflies or bluebottles won't do, you'll have to use horseflies and the damn things bite!

re: #112 Colonel Panik

And I must say that I am quite the fan of Bucky Katt.

Some other lizard gave me the avatar when I said I was looking for a picture of "The Colonel" from Monty Python.

I'm actually a Unix Kernel.

Kernil Panic! LOL, got it.

/post-mortem debugging, sounds gross

re: #125 BlueCanuck

Starting a couple weeks ago, after a code change the slash started borking the data base. So he changed it and I thank you for that again Charles if you're still around.

re: #127 gop_patriot

Kernel, PIMF

Not a techie so not sure if I phrased that quite right.

re: #128 Neo Con since 9-11

the slash started borking the data base.

So that was you, was it? ;)

/"the slash started borking the data base" would make a good rotating title LOL

re: #110 ploome hineni
re: #104 psaturn

Well...Medura does have an impressive vocabulary !

And the verbose insults were quite interesting...and she said she was Albanian?

and I am Paris Hilton

:P

Her linked site.

re: #127 gop_patriot

Kernil Panic! LOL, got it.

/post-mortem debugging, sounds gross

Kernel Panic?

Bugged by the miracle of Obama

Is anyone else bothered by the superhuman rise of Barack Obama? Granted all his virtues, his intelligence, his fast footwork, and the grand rhetoric of his stump speech. Does anyone feel bothered by the fact that he has a conspicuously invisible track record, and that his Illinois years are marred by doctrinaire leftism and intimate connections with the Chicago Machine?

Here's a telling fact: Michelle Obama is the daughter of a Daley Machine precinct captain. She grew up watching Chicago politics up close; now she is its biggest homegrown star. Maybe it's not that hard to understand Obama marrying Michelle and blasting off like a Delta rocket at Canaveral. Lots of Chicago loyalists must be counting on their share of the 2,700 appointed positions in a new US administration. Others are figuring how to get fat government contracts -- to help the poor and oppressed, of course.

/Chicago corruption goes to Washington

re: #81 The Other Les

I'm probably going to get banned for this:

A Really Evil Idea, Updated.

It was originally posted on the Traveller Mailing List in 2002.

Why the hell do I get a Google 403 error when I try to access that link?

re: #133 BlueCanuck

Kernel Panic?

Jeez, it's like Dilbert, only with no fantasy animals and even more deadpan. LOL.

re: #137 Colonel Panik

His Help Desk is not bad either. Old style web comics done cheap.

re: #133 BlueCanuck

Kernel Panic?

Ok, see, I don't get that at all. Must be a techie thing... It seems funny, but I have no frame of reference whatsoever, so it makes no sense to me! :p

re: #131 gop_patriot

Wow. My very first rotating title nomination. Thanks. I'm not sure what to do. Do I need to campaign for the office of rotating title? Do I need a blimp? Will I hurt my chances if I call you all "Bitter and clingy"? Should I shed a tear on national TV? So many questions.

re: #132 solomonpanting

That's what was trying to lecture me on U.S. Constitutional law? Oh and she studies economics and is "very pro" gold standard, nevermind that there isn't a country on the face of the earth that still has a currency backed by precious metals. Think there might be a reason for that?

/[expletive deleted] Paulian nutcase tool

re: #134 ploome hineni

Perhaps she's merely the outgoing type.
One thing that's a bit harsh, though, is her introduction:

The most urgent thing you need to know about me: Kejda is read Kayda (or [al] Qaeda, if that’s what strikes your fancy). It makes me cringe when someone actually pronounces the ‘j’ in my name.

Imagine someone actually pronouncing all the letters! Oh, the horror!

re: #140 Neo Con since 9-11

Wow. My very first rotating title nomination. Thanks. I'm not sure what to do. Do I need to campaign for the office of rotating title? Do I need a blimp? Will I hurt my chances if I call you all "Bitter and clingy"? Should I shed a tear on national TV? So many questions.

LOL! :)

re: #132 solomonpanting

Wow !

She is a Jew !

re: #134 ploome hineni

I agree !

Speaking terrorism, the KSA and bombs, a post on prior thread indicated a gang of girls poured some sort of purple liquid into a house in the UK and it exploded.

Apparently, the 26 year old male who has an odd last name (maybe Middle Eastern) is at the center of it.

Does anybody have any more information on this item?

See: Gang of girls 'blew up house with home-made bomb over row about boy'

[and]

House explosion: Mystery purple liquid poured through letterbox before blast

re: #146 ledger1

I think the man who died was just a neighbor, and not involved in any way. That's just what I get from the reports, but who knows...

I have to say that my main question is, if the girl called 999 (like our 911), what did the police do? Did they respond? It sounds like they didn't; but the articles don't say. Could this have been averted if a policeman had been dispatched?

re: #144 psaturn

Wow !

She is a Jew !

From her site:

Anti-Religion (Especially those religions with aggressive dhimmifying tendencies)

Yipes, I don't even know what to comment on anymore. I guess I should know LGF by now, but I'm a poor male with little to no multi-tasking, multi-threading capacity - call me Win3.11 heh.

Someone whose opinion I respect (if not always agree with) believes this is the US idea of mind games - first, we purchase your dwindling natural resources, watch you piss waste your money on frivolities for the most part, and THEN, when you're all out, we start pumping our own crude.

Um. I dunno. You can do a lot of damage with the kind of money being pumped into the Middle East right now. On either side. And that kind of long-term strategic thinking seems a little too involved for the current lot of pollies to come up with.

You know what I would like to see these Saudi princes and sheikhs do just once? Just ONCE? Donate some money to non-religious charities and relief funds, especially those dedicated to human and women's rights. Doubt it's ever gonna happen, though.

And you know what I'd like to see these liberal academic institutions do just once? Just ONCE? REFUSE THE MONEY!

Like that's gonna happen either. Dhimmis in the world's freest country. How sad.

Leave me out of the quantum mechanics discussions, please. The moment you use Lewis Carroll's made-up names to describe your particles, I feel like Alice in Wonderland. Not to mention properties called 'silly'. Eep. And quantum fluctuations? Holy Heisenberg's Kitty Kat!

:)

Has anyone seen LeePro around lately? I hope she's doing OK.

re: #147 gop_patriot

Yes, I would think police intervention would have been of help.

More troubling is the access to “liquid” explosives by relatively young girls. Think what master terrorists would have done.

Hollywood celebs (from the original movie) brush off a real Pvt. Ryan
Take the Money and Run

re: #150 gop_patriot

Saw her last night. Didn't say anything about problems.

/nothing new I think.

Does Chertoff know? Obama? Did they pay for Jenna's wedding? Were the Saudis there?

re: #148 solomonpanting

Yeah I saw that...that is what she kept talking about earlier...and several of us (Christians and Jews) were debating her that you cannot get religious people out of the government and politics...

re: #150 gop_patriot

Has anyone seen LeePro around lately? I hope she's doing OK.

It is mothers day. She has 3 kids.

re: #153 BlueCanuck

Saw her last night. Didn't say anything about problems.

/nothing new I think.

other than being cranky..... %-)

/white smoke

re: #157 redc1c4

Hmmm, I wonder why that was. *minor glare*

re: #158 BlueCanuck

Hmmm, I wonder why that was. *minor glare*

what did i do yesterday?

/as opposed to all the others.....

re: #159 redc1c4

*sigh* Sorry, but sometimes people don't understand your humour. I think it may be just general build up.

re: #153 BlueCanuck

Saw her last night. Didn't say anything about problems.

/nothing new I think.

Thanks, I seem to remember she was going to have an appointment on Monday, and I wanted to wish her luck. :)

re: #156 pat

It is mothers day. She has 3 kids.

Yeah, I know, LOL. Lee bought me a coffee the other day. ;) We're both from Memphis, and when I go home, we try and meet up. :) I was just wondering, since she'd not been feeling well, and I checked the last few nights, but must've just missed her.

re: #159 redc1c4

what did i do yesterday?

/as opposed to all the others.....

LOL Hiya, red. :)

re: #152 JHW

Hollywood celebs (from the original movie) brush off a real Pvt. Ryan
Take the Money and Run

Thanks, I'll be emailing this link to some people. Some weird excuses not to lend your name to a freaking list, saying "I believe this is a good idea". They have to work, so they can't support a bill? Ridiculous. It's only because the word "Iraq" is mentioned, and they think they'll be blacklisted.

re: #161 gop_patriot

Yeah, I know, LOL. Lee bought me a coffee the other day. ;) We're both from Memphis, and when I go home, we try and meet up. :) I was just wondering, since she'd not been feeling well, and I checked the last few nights, but must've just missed her.

she's been toting more than her fair share of freight these days, and sometimes it gets to be a bit much. (surprise) last info was that she was getting a second opinion on the major w*rk she was thinking about having done, prior to pulling the trigger on it. if you talk to her before she hows here, give her my best wishes.

re: #162 gop_patriot

LOL Hiya, red. :)

cheers!

/change!

re: #160 BlueCanuck

*sigh* Sorry, but sometimes people don't understand your humour. I think it may be just general build up.

maybe i can change?

re: #165 redc1c4

cheers!

/change!

/drink

re: #166 redc1c4

I don't think that's possible. Old and set in your ways I think.

/not old old, just experienced.

re: #168 BlueCanuck

I don't think that's possible. Old and set in your ways I think.

/not old old, just experienced.

aged, but not old........

(except the legs. they're NMC for sure. %-)

re: #169 redc1c4

LOL, I can sympathize with that feeling. Nothing like the infantry to kill your knees.

re: #164 redc1c4

I'll sure tell her.

Just read your last journal entry, too funny! Of course, I don't get all the military-speak, so it took me a minute to figure out what the heck you were saying. ;)

re: #170 BlueCanuck

LOL, I can sympathize with that feeling. Nothing like the infantry to kill your knees.

and your taste buds, your inhibitions, your standards.......

/Ollag the Cave Man

re: #163 gop_patriot

Indeed.....thinly veiled that they do not want to be associated with the war. Disgusting too I might add. Didn't they say these stars they they support the soldiers but not the war? Hogwash. They have distanced themselves and have ruled this an illegal war...which it is not. They are completely out of touch with this country and it's people...yet they are Hollywood stars? I think they need to come out of their ivory towers and get back in touch with the people they make money off of.

Do you know they have mothers day in Austria, Britain, and Mexico? Today?

re: #173 Suzette

{ { { { {Suzette} } } }!

Good morning. Long time no see.

re: #171 gop_patriot

I'll sure tell her.

Just read your last journal entry, too funny! Of course, I don't get all the military-speak, so it took me a minute to figure out what the heck you were saying. ;)

the day started out crappy, then got worse, but i mucked my way through it all, and didn't get crapped on.

/that's a win in the Infantry %-)

re: #175 BlueCanuck

Hey { { { {Blue} } } }! Yeah I am not up as late as I use to be.
New meds. Tonight I am. Good to see you too! Hope you are doing well! :)

re: #174 pat

Really? All on the same day? I did not know that. :)

re: #173 Suzette

Well said, and hi! How are you?

re: #173 Suzette

Indeed.....thinly veiled that they do not want to be associated with the war. Disgusting too I might add. Didn't they say these stars they they support the soldiers but not the war? Hogwash. They have distanced themselves and have ruled this an illegal war...which it is not. They are completely out of touch with this country and it's people...yet they are Hollywood stars? I think they need to come out of their ivory towers and get back in touch with the people they make money off of.

better yet, just cut the scum off from their dollars: quit seeing their movies, quit renting their DVDs/Tapes, don't download their on line offerings and don't hit the web sights.

i go one farther: these days when someone comes to the door asking to film in my neighborhood, i specifically fill out the form that says no, and ask them why they don't film in Canada instead..... the looks are priceless.

re: #177 Suzette

Glad to hear that you are not as much as a night owl. Things are going great for me. New career is starting to move. Seeing a gorgeous lady now. Spending time with our puppy. It's been a busy month. :)

re: #83 ggt

But it is not in their interest to bankrupt us. After-all we can live with out them and their oil --not well, but better than they can live in the f@cking desert without our money.

But it is in their(the oil ticks) interest to bankrupt the US and that is exactly what they - the oil ticks, Russia, China and this coalition the Mullah's have put together - are attempting and may succeed in doing.

Q: What are our goals for Iraq & Afghanistan?

quick semi-A: To bring about the semi-liberalization of 2 Muslim states to serve as models for other states within the region, ie., regime change, liberalization, reform.

This is an enormous threat, especially to those states of culture stuck on stagnate and yearning for a period of economic & military dominance.

re: #179 gop_patriot

Hey {Gop}! Doing all right. Been quiet but reading the threads a lot.
And you? Hope you are doing all right. :)

re: #180 redc1c4

I make sure I do not ....spend any money on any of the hog wash anti - American crap they have been pushing out of Hollywood the past year and do take note who are the stars and the makers of these vile movies.

re: #149 gkong3

Was going to respond to this earlier but got sidetracked. Good comment, you should post more! :)

re: #181 BlueCanuck

Wow! So glad to hear that Blue! You deserve things to go your way.
/What a cute puppy too! :)

re: #183 Suzette

I've been reading more than commenting lately. Out of town a couple of times, then this week, we've had a virusy-cold-thingie going around the house. Yay. LOL

And thankfully, the bad storms yesterday gave us a miss (went north and south of us).

re: #186 Suzette

Yeah, and he knows it too. Hard taking him for a walk in the daytime. Stopping every two minutes for the petting tribute from strangers.

/he's shameless in his attention grabbing.

re: #187 gop_patriot

I will go through phases of not commenting much/ not much to say.
Well I hope the virus -cold is clearing up and am very glad to hear you missed those storms. Seems there have been a lot of bad storms this week.

re: #188 BlueCanuck

Aren't most pups? He is a cutie though! :)

re: #150 gop_patriot

Has anyone seen LeePro around lately? I hope she's doing OK.

She's fine. Recieved email from her today. I let her know you were asking about her in my reply.

Regards,

Danny

/Drive by posting... back to the trenches (work).

McConnell: Democrats will 'turn us into France'

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, in a likely preview of the Republican line of attack in the general election, said Democratic leaders and Mr. Obama "get up every morning with three things on their minds: more taxes, more regulation and more litigation."

"It's pretty clear to me that the Democratic agenda is to turn us into France," the Kentucky Republican told The Washington Times in an unusually blunt interview at his office in the Capitol. "Americans may want change, but the question is, what kind of change?"

/hammer it home for the next six months!

re: #192 Killian Bundy

Yes but....

Sen. McCain explicitly has said he wants to imitate France. Well, at least on the part of greatly expanding nuclear energy.

re: #191 AmeriDan

Thanks, Dan. :)

re: #192 Killian Bundy

McConnell: Democrats will 'turn us into France'

/hammer it home for the next six months!

AMEN

re: #192 Killian Bundy

I truly am concerned if either Barack or Hillary get into office.
They are clueless on the war and I am afraid that they will certainly do more harm than any good. Sure this country has survived bad Presidents before....but a bad president right now, at this time, I really don't want to think about it!
/does this mean car being set on fire will start to become a common occurance here like in France too?

re: #195 Suzette

I truly am concerned if either Barack or Hillary get into office.
They are clueless on the war and I am afraid that they will certainly do more harm than any good. Sure this country has survived bad Presidents before....but a bad president right now, at this time, I really don't want to think about it!
/does this mean car being set on fire will start to become a common occurance here like in France too?

not in *my* driveway...... %-)

re: #195 Suzette

I don't think we will have to worry about carbeques here in North America. At least not as bad as over there.

/2nd amendment is a great deterrent.

re: #196 redc1c4

Nor my yard.

KOREAN
SHOP
KEEPERS,
R

re: #197 BlueCanuck

I was thinking the same thing. Things could go badly!
/I have no doubt though that Barack would open the doors even wider to Islamic immigration here. Just a feeling I get. Maybe I am off the mark......

re: #196 redc1c4

To be honest not in my drive-way either! :)

re: #198 Render

Nor my yard.

KOREAN
SHOP
KEEPERS,
R

i was in San Antonio when the last riots in Lost Angels occurred....

it was weird standing there, watching things on the screen and saying "i know where that is." or "i've been there."......

/1965 i was in Hawaii

(timing is *everything*! %-)

re: #200 Suzette

To be honest not in my drive-way either! :)

remember: even with a bayonet attached, the M-1 Garand is *not* an assault weapon......

/unless you're taking a position. %-)

Harmony Church Rules

re: #202 redc1c4

I did not know that....well I learn something new every day!
/Thanks red! :)

re: #202 redc1c4

A fixed bayonet is only good for one target at a time. And used in large groups of like equipped, trained people. Think ranks of mini-pikes.

re: #204 BlueCanuck

A fixed bayonet is only good for one target at a time. And used in large groups of like equipped, trained people. Think ranks of mini-pikes.

unless, of course, your target is the psyche of the OPFOR. a fixed bayonet is a PSYWAR weapon, on both sides, and it w*rks.

besides, the gun freaks here have imbued the existence of a bayonet lug with mystical powers bestowed upon the weapon it resides upon, regardless of the reality of it's existence. who are *you* to question them?

"what is the spirit of the bayonet?"

Just stopping in for a moment...

Hello Suzette, Killian and All!

Suzette, it is my belief, based on facts, that Obama is a taqiyya talking Islamist. Witness: his support for Odinga, Wright (and his Masters Degree in Islam), Farrakhan, Ayers, NOI.....

I am an optimist, generally speaking. However, two nights ago I arrived at the sad realization that Obamamahdi will win in November.

It is hard to believe that this is a possible reality.

re: #203 Suzette

I did not know that....well I learn something new every day!
/Thanks red! :)

here to help..... and that big oak/maple/other american hard wood stock w*rks really well when it comes time to cold cock some moron, as does the metal butt plate.

/teeth for days. %-)

Well time for bed....
Night Blue and Red and all other lizards!
Hope you all have a great day! :)

OT but at this point I don't see it matters.
Good interview with Brooke Goldstein over at Front Page today on Islamic Lawfare.

Goldstein: One tenant of Sha'aria law is to punish those who criticize Islam, and to silence speech considered blasphemous against Islam or its Prophet Mohammed.

The Islamist movement has two wings – that which operates violently, propagating suicide-homicide bombing and other terrorist activities, and that which operates lawfully, conducting a "soft jihad," within our court systems, through Sha'aria banking, within our school systems and through organizations such as the Council on American-Islamic Relations and the Canadian Islamic Congress. Both the violent and the lawful arms of the Islamist movement can and do work apart, but often, their work re-enforces each other's.

re: #207 redc1c4
If I recall my training correctly, after the parry you followed through with a butt stroke.

re: #208 Suzette

Night {Suzette} weet dreams.

re: #208 Suzette

Well time for bed....
Night Blue and Red and all other lizards!
Hope you all have a great day! :)

there's beer in the frig, so that's a given.

/same back atcha!

G'night Suzette. Impeccable timing on my part....lol.

re: #210 BlueCanuck

If I recall my training correctly, after the parry you followed through with a butt stroke.

funny..... my training always started out with an aggressive move.

must be a 'merkin thing, eh?

re: #213 redc1c4

The parry was to remove his fixed bayonet to open him wide for massive pain and stomping.

/methods, and methods.
//also it's been years so I may be wrong.

re: #206 Sprite

Obama has a master's degree in islam?

/I don't know if he'll win or not, but I'm praying not.

re: #208 Suzette

Goodnight, Suzette. Sleep well. :)

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

re: #214 BlueCanuck

The parry was to remove his fixed bayonet to open him wide for massive pain and stomping.

/methods, and methods.
//also it's been years so I may be wrong.

well, my favorite initial move has always been an open sheaf 155 TOT with HE-VT & WP in effect........

(that or at least a Claymore. %-)

/fuck "fair".

re: #215 gop_patriot

No gop, his reverend does...screenshot here

re: #209 Neo Con since 9-11

Thanks for the link, I've saved it to read tomorrow. I'm too tired to do anything but listen to music right now. lol

re: #217 littleoldlady

How do you do that? LOL! I looked up, saw "4:00 AM" on my computer, hit "new comments" and voila, there you were, 2:00:01 AM. =)

/fruitcup has lots of vitamin C, right? *cough hack sneeze* ;)

Morning Little Old Lady
/Snatches the fruit cup fills it with vodka

_{Driveby fruiting...}

I just figured out (after hours of staring at it) what this project I'm doing is supposed to look like.

Now I have to go do it. :-(

Hey Suzette! Sprite! gop! The Colors Boys (Blue & red)! and all the ships at sea...

Hello, lol, hope you are well!

re: #218 redc1c4

Now that's thinking I can get behind. There's no such thing as overkill.

re: #222 littleoldlady

Hi littleoldlady, bye littleoldlady. Have a fun day.

/hates drivebys.

Neo Con since 9-11! :-)

gop,

Fruitcup is very healthy for you. You should have two helpings today!

/littleoldlady passes on the fruitcup and slinks away with a bag of Hershey's Nuggets®

re: #217 littleoldlady

I hope it's not spiked tonight... I have to stay late and work on an essay...

Off to the salt mines...

/verybigsigh :-(

Good day, ALL!™

re: #219 Sprite

No gop, his reverend does...screenshot here

Thank you! I misread what you posted, sorry. It's still incredible, I would love to see the thesis... :X

re: #146 ledger1

Speaking terrorism, the KSA and bombs, a post on prior thread indicated a gang of girls poured some sort of purple liquid into a house in the UK and it exploded.

Apparently, the 26 year old male who has an odd last name (maybe Middle Eastern) is at the center of it.

Does anybody have any more information on this item?

See: Gang of girls 'blew up house with home-made bomb over row about boy'

[and]

House explosion: Mystery purple liquid poured through letterbox before blast

I got a little more information and a lot of speculation.

The mother of the victim says the explosion was not over a boy.

The 26 year old man who died was a Pakistani who house was also destroyed. Some reports indicate that there was no natural gas leak – supposedly, the authorities check'd the gas lines.

Here is the speculation on the purple liquid from the freepers (take it with a grain of salt):

posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 3:33:07 PM by MainFrame65:

Nitrogen tri-iodide?

Some of the chem majors used to make tiny quantities of NI3 in the dorms for various mischief back in the late 50’s.

posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 3:41:00 PM by airedale:

In very small quantities in the open when it’s still wet it’s OK but as it dries and if it’s contained it’s really powerful. It was also very unstable. If that’s what they used that’s scary.

35 posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 3:44:26 PM by airedale:

Yes, but under the right conditions when hasn’t dried it will still explode. BTW it’s red not purple but does leave a purple cloud. If you want to watch a UTube vido of some of it going up go here: ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KlAf936E90

posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 3:52:44 PM by editor-surveyor:

"Nitrogen tri-iodide?"

For sure!

Very easy to transport wet, but one gram of dry crystal will blow a tire off it's wheel as it rolls.

74 posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:01:37 PM by ASOC:

Hummm

Purple and goes bang.

Document Type and Number:United States Patent 4892597 Link to this page:http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4892597.html
Abstract:A liquid explosive composition having a density of about 1.282 grams/mL and comprising a mixture of

(a) nitromethane,
(b) trinitrotoluene, and
(c) pyridine.

Said ingredients being present in a weight ratio of about 60-64 parts nitromethane; 34-29.5 parts trinitrotoluene; and 6-6.5 parts pyridine.

Oddly - the liquid mix is a deep purple in color. OF course is - where would these young people have gooten the TNT let alone the pyridine...but this product fits the description and the effects of the blast.

See: picture of destroyed houses and discussion

re: #226 littleoldlady

LOL! Good to know.

(((littleoldlady))) Have a great day!

re: #229 gop_patriot

OMG, yes, imagine that thesis! Hmm.. Might it be available from Chicago's Divinity School? Will look into that ASAP; i.e, after Wednesday. Snowed under until then.

Good night sweet Lizards. Be well. My prayers go with you...

re: #230 Ledger1

I don't think you need TNT to make it. The mixing of the ingredients will form the proper needs. I have seen it used as a prank. But that's just along the lines a wee dab will do ya.

re: #224 BlueCanuck

Now that's thinking I can get behind. There's no such thing as overkill.

yup......
if you think something is overkill you weren't thinking large enough to begin with.

/all Claymores get 2 WP grenades wired/det corded to the face....

re: #225 BlueCanuck

Hi littleoldlady, bye littleoldlady. Have a fun day.

/hates drivebys.

no problem with drivebys.... you just have to lead them. %-)

re: #227 freetoken

I hope it's not spiked tonight... I have to stay late and work on an essay...

bummer for you.

/it's spiked *every* night. %-)

re: #230 Ledger1

I think the 24 hour rule applies to speculation on what the purple liquid is. Having said that, I chuckle at the thought of girls bombing a guy in a country that allows the stoning of rape victims. Thelma and Louise gone even wilder.

re: #237 Neo Con since 9-11

I read both articles. I think the poor sucker was what you would call collateral damage. Nothing shows that he was linked to the intended victim.

/still sucks though

The family from hell:

'British values mean nothing to me,' says the gipsy mother who forced her daughter to marry at 13

"I'll be the one who decides if my daughter is old enough to marry. I got married when I was 14 in such a ceremony and it hasn't done me any harm.

"Just because I live in Britain doesn't mean I've got to behave the way you lot think is right. I'll live my life the way I want and that includes the way I bring up my kids.

"I don't care what the neighbours think, or social services. It's not my problem people around here don't understand our culture and values."

Ah, and they're such classy people, too:

Bozena continues to share a cramped two-bedroom terraced house in East Ham, with 14 relatives. Her parents do not make her, or any of her siblings, go to school.

Neighbours say the family, who live on benefits and do not pay rent, are terrorising the street by playing loud music late at night, throwing rubbish into neighbours' gardens and spitting on their windows.

re: #239 gop_patriot

The family from hell:

'British values mean nothing to me,' says the gipsy mother who forced her daughter to marry at 13

/they're lucky i'm not a neighbor though....... %-)

re: #240 redc1c4

/they're lucky i'm not a neighbor though....... %-)

Problem is, in the UK they would have taken your guns and destroyed them by now. You'd be unarmed, could you defend yourself against a whole houseful of crazy people? (OK, you probably could. lol But what about a single woman, or an older couple? Young family with kids?) And the police there probably wouldn't come to your aid if you confronted the vandals, they'd arrest you for causing a problem by calling them out. UGH

re: #239 gop_patriot

This is the generation upon whose eagerly adopted work ethic, anticipated prosperity, and docile cultural integration the aging British and European elites hope to build their retirement.

/Strike three! And the visitors are coming to bat...

re: #238 BlueCanuck

I think the poor sucker was what you would call collateral damage.

I think the poor rape victims were what you would call collateral damage. Nothing shows they were they were the intended victim. That's what makes it ironic.

re: #241 gop_patriot

Problem is, in the UK they would have taken your guns and destroyed them by now. You'd be unarmed, could you defend yourself against a whole houseful of crazy people? (OK, you probably could. lol But what about a single woman, or an older couple? Young family with kids?) And the police there probably wouldn't come to your aid if you confronted the vandals, they'd arrest you for causing a problem by calling them out. UGH

old age & treachery will *always* beat youth and enthusiasm.

/i'm *never* unarmed..... it's all about the training. %-)

re: #242 Clemente

This is the generation upon whose eagerly adopted work ethic, anticipated prosperity, and docile cultural integration the aging British and European elites hope to build their retirement.

/Strike three! And the visitors are coming to bat...

God help the UK.

/the US still has a chance to stop it before it gets that bad

re: #244 redc1c4

old age & treachery will *always* beat youth and enthusiasm.

/i'm *never* unarmed..... it's all about the training. %-)

Sorry, didn't know you were old. Had a feeling about the treacherous, though. HA! just kidding.

If I move into a crappy neighborhood, you are officially invited over to intimidate all my neighbors. :)

re: #245 gop_patriot

God help the UK.

/the US still has a chance to stop it before it gets that bad

I echo your prayer, earnestly and often.

Good morning, Lizards.

Morning Goddess

Good morning goddess. Ready to take on the world?

/after coffee of course.

re: #248 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning!

And goodnight, y'all, I'm finally tired. :) Talk to you all later, hope you all have a great day!

{Neo con since9-11}
{Blue Canuck}

I'm getting there!

{gop_patriot}

Sleep well!

night gop_patriot. weet dreams.

re: #248 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, goddess. My wish for all great teachers: Before the week's out, may each of your classes amaze and astonish you!

re: #246 gop_patriot

Sorry, didn't know you were old. Had a feeling about the treacherous, though. HA! just kidding.

If I move into a crappy neighborhood, you are officially invited over to intimidate all my neighbors. :)

if you move to a crappy neighborhood, *you* have to intimidate them....or it won't w*rk.

(but i'll be glad to help reinforce the impression. %-)

re: #255 Clemente

Good morning, goddess. My wish for all great teachers: Before the week's out, may each of your classes amaze and astonish you!

i've taught a few different times..... i'd settle for them not disgusting me.

re: #257 redc1c4

...i'd settle for them not disgusting me.

A probability of significantly lower order, but theoretically non-zero, I guess.

re: #255 Clemente

Good morning, goddess. My wish for all great teachers: Before the week's out, may each of your classes amaze and astonish you!

Oh, to one extent or another, they will!

Of course they won't call these different centers what they really are, namely fronts for the propagation of the faith. Put the infidels to sleep with centers promoting disarmament peace while getting the girls ready for the veil and the boys for jihad in the name of Allah peaceful inner struggle.

Eventually the target populations will pay the money back in the form of the Jizya. Involuntary advance repayment of for these "gifts" is already taking place at the pumps.

Good Morning lizards!

{opnion}! Good morning!

There's so much wrong in this tiny AwtP footnote,

Gaza official: Fuel supply resumes to Gaza plant

that I just can't pluck out where to begin...

morning opnion. Slow day today. Maybe that's a good thing.

re: #264 BlueCanuck

morning opnion. Slow day today. Maybe that's a good thing.

Good morning Blue. Yup, it does seem slow.

Morning Lizards!

was waiting to pounce on the early morning thread!

0ops & Good morning Goddess.

re: #263 Clemente

"Extra" fuel probably went where they wanted it. Not neccessarily into the generator.

re: #266 rightside

Don't think there's going to be one. This thread is pretty small for the early hours.

/then again it started late

Hmmm, anybody thinking anything about anything?

re: #269 BlueCanuck

I concur...seems to be happening more often, although I haven't been here long enough to see a pattern... Just seems to me that there used to be one everyday for a while.

re: #271 rightside

I think the Grand Lizard has a script that runs. When thread >= X comments post a new thread. Only way I can see it. He has to sleep sometime.

Hi opnion! :)

I'm sorta down, as I've had a very serious confrontation with a Communist friend.
He's been a friend most of our lifes, our families have known each other for three or four generations.

But the divide is so HUGE now, there's nothing a communist and I can share. Nothing.