Well, he's a moderate extremist.

How can their be moderates in a religion that teaches extremity?

The NYT: Surrendering one issue at a time.

Hey, if he doesn't have explosives strapped to his body at this particular moment, he's counted as a "moderate". Get with the program, people.

re: #1 haakondahl

Well, he's a moderate extremist.

Is that like a radical centrist in the non-Muslim world?

That video is in-your-face obnoxious.

Exterminator as moderate.

Does lack of an explosive enema make a terrorist a "moderate?" If so, I didn't know that. I just have to wonder why they aren't a little more agreeable without the dynamite hidden in their nether regions....

Alo looks like he's been sucking on a crackpipe for too long.

What did you expect, something on Pat Donnell?

re: #3 Nevergiveup

The NYT: Surrendering one issue at a time.

at this rate, I guess they ought to include free Arabic reading / writing lessons for those 12 who want to renew their subscriptions...

This guy is a "moderate Muslim" like Amy Winehouse is a "nice Jewish girl."

You don't get it. From the NY Times viewpoint, he IS moderate. From past history, the NY Times would classify Stalin and Trotsky as moderates as well, and anybody to the right of Mikhail Gorbachev as being a radical right-wing extremist

You always classify "moderate" as "where I am"

By that measure, to me Rush Limbaugh is a Leftist

If this guy is a moderate, I'd hate to see what the NYT thinks is an extremist

Wow. I read the lyrics to the "song".

Actually calls for suicide bombing as a means to bring about a global caliphate.

Thanks, NYT. That little bit of journalism was just too much to ask, huh?

Perhaps they have a different definition of "moderate." Perhaps the NYT sees any Muslim who is not wearing a suicide belt that is about to detonate or holding the bloodied severed head of an infidel in his hand, as "moderate."

/I wish I was being sarcastic

re: #14 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

If this guy is a moderate, I'd hate to see what the NYT thinks is an extremist

A Muslim apostate turned Christian or Jewish.

re: #14 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

If this guy is a moderate, I'd hate to see what the NYT thinks is an extremist

Look in the mirror. Don't you know, we are the enemy.

So, does he advocate moderate suicide bombings?

Lizards, the laundry is going to be taking all of my attention for a while. Sorry to say, I have to leave.

Proceed as usual, I'm counting on you.

re: #14 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

If this guy is a moderate, I'd hate to see what the NYT thinks is an extremist

George Bush.

re: #18 Nevergiveup

Look in the mirror. Don't you know, we are the enemy.

We are the US
We are the enemy
We are the ones the left wants swept away so let's not give in
There's a choice we're makin'
We're saving our free lives
Preserving liberty along the way
For you and me.

Charles, on the previous thread @ 439, Ben Hur notes a corrupt Fairfax County cop tipped off his Caliphate friend on a terrorist list. Perhaps noteworthy, as Fairfax County, Northern Virginia is prime WashingtonPost moonbat country.

Maybe he's only moderately extremist, not extremely extremist. Next up: apathetically extremist.

Extremist Muslim: One who blows up Jews right now.
Moderate Muslim: One who gives Jews a "peace plan" that makes sure they'll die later.

Moderate?

That's like Conservative Joo, right?

Or is the "Conservative" kingdome of SA?

I keep forgetting.

That video was giving me vertigo, so I had to stop watching. I think that Cindy Sheehag has a new soulmate here.

According to the NYT, Radical Islam must become mainstream.

Crap like this is gonna boomerang on 'em... eventually, the general public will just come to see "moderates" as anti-democratic Caliphate worshipers. The NYT should know by now... playing games with words doesn't change the perception of the person, it changes the perception of the word.

re: #29 stevieray

Crap like this is gonna boomerang on 'em... eventually, the general public will just come to see "moderates" as anti-democratic Caliphate worshipers. The NYT should know by now... playing games with words doesn't change the perception of the person, it changes the perception of the word.

Old joke, attributed to Abraham Lincoln:

If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?

Four; because calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg.

Soldiers of Allah

The last Soldiers of Allah album 1924 was their most successful album.[citation needed] The name of the album refers to the year 1924 when "Islamic state was destroyed" (see Abolishment). The album was recorded before 9/11, but it is supposed that after 9/11 the group became controversial as Islam came further into public awareness in America, see Criticisms.[citation needed]

Soldiers of Allah's views in their raps include unifying the ummah and setting one strong khilafah (Islamic state). In their songs they often refer to glorious men of Islamic history, like Abdülhamid II, Saladin, Khalid bin Walid and Harun al-Rashid. They stand against corrupted Islamic regimes, Muslims weak in their beliefs and kuffar. They claim that Islam is complete, unlike Christianity and Judaism ("we have system, they have only religion").

SOA have been quite popular in the Muslim community in the West,[citation needed] and then gained massive popularity in other parts of the world such as the Middle East, Indonesia and Malaysia.[citation needed] They have gained an extremely wide international audience,[citation needed] past just the Middle East and Southeast Asia, and are believed by many to be the most well-known modern-music Islamic group around, a claim which certainly carries weight.[citation needed]

Due to family reasons, the Soldiers of Allah website has been shut down and the group disbanded, as the members all became married and decided to focus on families.[citation needed] It's hoped that "Soldiers of Allah" will one day regroup and release another album, "SOA 3 - The Return of Islam", and the feature Nasheed will be "By Islam We're Family." The mp3 was released, but the hosting site is now defunct.[citation needed]

It had been announced during mid/late 2005 on the Trust Islam messageboard at [Link: trustislam.com...] (now off-line) , which started out as the homepage of the Soldiers Of Allah group, [Link: www.muslimstudio.com...] , that the SOA is working on releasing a new album called SOA 3: The Return of Islam, but after that no news has been released and it is unknown at what stage the album is.[citation

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The Minaret of Freedom Institute has claimed that Soldiers of Allah was a front organization for the ideologist Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir but SOA has claimed they are not affiliated with any group or organization many times.

Soldiers of Allah have also been linked with Baba Ali and the Ummah Films Team (www.ummahfilms.com) even though they continue to deny it, Al-Tassauf reported many underground and hyped links including videos and sound feeds on Youtube.com and CaliphTV.com that showed voice comparison to Baba Ali and SOA songs. Baba Ali still denies affiliation with the group, many argue about the dangers of living in the west post 9/11 and threats members have received

Soldiers of an Islamist New World Order

“We Muslims do not recognize any law or system but the Islamic one. Any system other than Islam is null and void.” - Soldiers of Allah

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The Soldiers of Allah website was created by Ardekani, who is, as it happens, a web developer by profession. You can check out much of his work – whilst staring into his empty, soulless eyes – on his personal website, [Link: www.flashimage.com....]

The Soldiers of Allah website was created by Ardekani
The Soldiers of Allah website was created by Ardekani
The Soldiers of Allah website was created by Ardekani

'Mr. Ardekani is among the most visible of a new wave of young American Muslim performers and filmmakers trying to change the public face of their religion.'
// Neil MacFarquhar, The NYT.

'Peace in the Middle East
Never was
And never will be
Until kufur regimes slap their head on the ground bowing down to Allah'
// Ardekani lyrics.

. The Times loses the thread, again.

Huzzah for Robert Spencer!

I've seen the clips on youtube
he's a real browbeating geek

the clips are very polished and profession looking
but of course the content is ridiculous

57 (or58) varieties of extremist, 57 (or 58) shades of change.

The NY Times article writes approvingly of the Islamic da'wa campaign on Youtube, and highlights a video called I Am A Muslim by a young Muslim presenting himself as just an ordinary American.

The article mentions the critical responses it has received, including a video response from a particularly switched-on young man:

"'Muslims need to come to grips with the fact that it is not always the extremism that we object to, it is simply your religion,' the man says, going on to argue that people are troubled by what he calls* Islam’s opposition to homosexuality, free speech and women’s rights. 'Only in Islam can one be labeled not an extremist simply because he has no immediate desire to blow you up.'”

[*Note the Times' writer dodges any acknowledgement of these basic truths]

This got JihadWatch readers googling, and they found the video response that the article refers to. It has received more than 133,000 hits, and is well worth watching: at least one young American gets it.

re: #14 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

If this guy is a moderate, I'd hate to see what the NYT thinks is an extremist

That would probably be someone like Franklin Graham.

one wonders at the motivation of the feminist/socialist/homosexual propagandists of the NYT in kowtowing to these barbarians

re: #39 pat

one wonders at the motivation of the feminist/socialist/homosexual propagandists of the NYT in kowtowing to these barbarians

Must be the feminist/socialist/homosexual masochists among them.

looks like a cobra

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Cause I write that blog.

A big Welcome to any lizards who visit or sign up!

re: #42 Davidari

See ya there/

Perhaps they laid off too many reporters, given their poor earnings and reduced readership. Alternatively maybe some Saudi Prince is now Sulzberger's secret Santa, so to speak.

Think of it, The New Jihad Times. Sounds catchy.

Will Maureen Dowd have to wear a burkha?

the nyt is afraid to profile people like hirsi ali and irshad manji. they prefer to profile pigs.

I just read the Jihad Watch piece and read the *lyrics* to the soldiers of allah song.
Oh My God!
This is supposed to be a moderate?

I also watched the CapnOawesome video, it was most interesting, thanks Terp. He does get it.

I am now heartily sick of all this Islamophobia nonsense. It'a merely a concerted effort at censorship. More importantly to censor criticism of islam by those who support the terrorists - who specifically name themselves as warriors of islam and carry out brutal acts in its name.
It's time for us to try to put a stop to the hate speech that is coming in our direction. I don't just mean Christianity, but Judaism, Bhuddhism, Hinduism and Sikhism and also those who have no religious affiliations.
Islamists separate the muslim world (Dar-al-Islam) from everyone else (Dar-al-Kufr). This is their definition not ours. We need to find a word to throw back at them every time they try to make us submit to their warped view of the world and their supremicist inclinations to put us in our place. I would suggest Kafirophobia or Infidelophobia as it would be something they would understand even tho I find both terms very offensive.
Perhaps others have suggestions?
We could have a whole list and perhaps vote on it?

The guy who makes those films is one ugly dude too. Offensively ugly.