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Midday Open Thread

Mon, May 12, 2008 at 1:44:40 pm PST

The law isn’t justice. It’s a very imperfect mechanism. If you press exactly the right buttons and are also lucky, justice may show up in the answer. A mechanism is all the law was ever intended to be.

Raymond Chandler

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#1 The Other Les 5/12/08 1:45:58 pm 0

Presidential candidates as seen from the Dork Tower.

[Link: archive.gamespy.com...]

#2 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 5/12/08 1:46:33 pm 0

Justice or Just us?

#3 WriterMom 5/12/08 1:47:43 pm 0

Oh good..I was getting tired of the other thread.

#4 coquimbojoe 5/12/08 1:47:45 pm 0

Are there gonna be puppets, boobs, or inflated scrotums on this thread?

#5 bosforus 5/12/08 1:48:20 pm 0

re: #4 coquimbojoe

Are there gonna be puppets, boobs, or inflated scrotums on this thread?

With any luck.

#6 WriterMom 5/12/08 1:48:54 pm 6
#7 RememberSekhmet? 5/12/08 1:49:53 pm 0

Amen to that. So says the lawyer's daughter. The law says x applies to all instances of y. Before you want x to happen, have an understanding of what exactly y entails.

#8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 5/12/08 1:50:45 pm 1

re: #6 WriterMom

Jon Voigt is a Mensch.

Yup, one of the good guys.

#9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 5/12/08 1:51:34 pm 0

re: #4 coquimbojoe

Are there gonna be puppets, boobs, or inflated scrotums on this thread?

Well they are now.

#10 gop_patriot 5/12/08 1:51:36 pm 0

re: #6 WriterMom

Jon Voigt is a Mensch.

Fantastic, way to go, Jon!
Some of those comments are absolutely appalling.

#11 WriterMom 5/12/08 1:52:29 pm 0

Is President Bush totally out of his mind?

Abbas=partner for peace
Olmert=an honest guy

[THUNK]

That was my head hitting the keyboard.

#12 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 5/12/08 1:54:38 pm 1

re: #11 WriterMom

Is President Bush totally out of his mind?

Abbas=partner for peace
Olmert=an honest guy

[THUNK]

That was my head hitting the keyboard.

US President George W. Bush said on Monday that he could not envisage the Middle East evolving "without a Palestinian state that's free and democratic."

I can. Its quite easy in fact.

#13 WrathofG-d 5/12/08 1:54:48 pm 1

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Most amazing are the comments. You'd think you were reading an ISM blog

#14 Silhouette 5/12/08 1:55:03 pm 3

It isn't that we have good laws or bad laws, it is that they don't seem to be static. The law and its interpretation change from judge to judge, from jury to jury. One company will win a frivolous lawsuit, when the next will lose one, even when by the law they should not have lost. It is as if the machine doles out a different answer every time, even when the same buttons are pushed.

#15 jcm 5/12/08 1:55:38 pm 2

re: #4 coquimbojoe

Are there gonna be puppets, boobs, or inflated scrotums on this thread?

Wouldn't be any fun without them...
Get three for the price of one!

SFW but not much else.

#16 taxfreekiller 5/12/08 1:55:41 pm 0

So,, whats this about?

EDS votes to sell itself to Hewitt/Packard ?

#17 Dolphin 5/12/08 1:55:45 pm 0

re: #4 coquimbojoe

Are there gonna be puppets, boobs, or inflated scrotums on this thread?

Wrong website - see [Link: www.zombietime.com...]

LOL

Got to go! Later.

#18 MellyMel 5/12/08 1:56:22 pm 0

re: #6 WriterMom

Jon Voigt is a Mensch.

"Voight was visibly moved by the visit and said Israel shouldn't negotiate with Palestinian militants. He called the attackers barbarians who spat on Israeli peacemaking attempts."

Rock on Jon!

#20 Ward Cleaver 5/12/08 1:57:19 pm 1

The more I hear from Jon Voigt, the more I like him.

#21 Ma Sands 5/12/08 1:57:48 pm 1

Whoops! I guess I ought've done a search first before expressing, in the previous thread, angst over the silence out of Lebanon:

report from West Beirut by valentine81, yesterday afternoon
#23 jcm 5/12/08 1:58:00 pm 0

re: #14 Silhouette

It isn't that we have good laws or bad laws, it is that they don't seem to be static. The law and its interpretation change from judge to judge, from jury to jury. One company will win a frivolous lawsuit, when the next will lose one, even when by the law they should not have lost. It is as if the machine doles out a different answer every time, even when the same buttons are pushed.

The law is what ever the judge decides the law is...

A Mason County District Court judge raised concerns over ICE officers appearing outside her courtroom two recent weeks in a row looking for defendants.

In a posting on an electronic mailing list for municipal and district court judges, Judge Victoria Meadows said ICE officers have searched her foreign-language calendar and asked her Spanish interpreter to identify a defendant who was to appear before her. The interpreter declined.

Meadows said she worries officers' presence around and outside her courtroom could deter some defendants from showing up. "I have a very good appearance record ... ," Meadows said. "I don't want to interfere with ICE's work. But we also don't want them interfering with the court process."

#24 MellyMel 5/12/08 1:58:52 pm 0

One of the comments from that site:

"Voight is a "has been" who likes Jews too much." Screen name? Jimmy Carter.

/Wow. Just wow.

#25 Alouette 5/12/08 1:58:58 pm 2

re: #10 gop_patriot

Fantastic, way to go, Jon!
Some of those comments are absolutely appalling.

The comments and the articles on Haaretz are worse than Kos.

#26 psaturn 5/12/08 1:59:46 pm 0

Interesting quote you picked Charles...

#28 Dianna 5/12/08 2:00:47 pm 0

re: #24 MellyMel

I saw that, and wondered if the writer weren't being sarcastic, given the comments that had come before.

#29 MandyManners 5/12/08 2:00:59 pm 0

re: #2 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Justice or Just us?

What about justiceforall?

#30 incanus 5/12/08 2:01:14 pm 0

goddessoftheclassroom (if you are here): Could you read my comment in the last thread and add to your list? Thanks!

#31 taxfreekiller 5/12/08 2:01:17 pm 0

BaBaZee

check out this

Bracewell & Jiuliani LLP big connection guy of Regan Adm, and Bush bud, is on the Board of Direcotors of Stewart Title Guaranty Company
aka STC it think is symbol, world bank, internal banking expert.

Stewat is Texas based Title ins company in Houston,

why is this big guy in this little company,,,?

there are tenacles of some big old thing in almost all corps of size now

[Link: www.stewart.com...]

#32 psaturn 5/12/08 2:01:24 pm 0

re: #25 Alouette

The comments and the articles on Haaretz are worse than Kos.


I agree Alouette ! And I had a guy that I was debating with, a Theology graduate student who is a 'progressive' evangelical, who was glad I was reading Haaretz....

Gaaaah !

What is with 'progressive' mindset and lack of wisdom ?

#33 MellyMel 5/12/08 2:01:52 pm 0

re: #28 Dianna

I saw that, and wondered if the writer weren't being sarcastic, given the comments that had come before.

I'll have to go back and read some more -- I hope you're right. That sounded awful.

#34 jcm 5/12/08 2:02:30 pm 1

re: #32 psaturn

I agree Alouette ! And I had a guy that I was debating with, a Theology graduate student who is a 'progressive' evangelical, who was glad I was reading Haaretz....

Gaaaah !

What is with 'progressive' mindset and lack of wisdom ?

'progressive' evangelical'... is that cognitive dissonance or what?

#35 sparrowlake 5/12/08 2:03:27 pm 0

re: #11 WriterMom

Is President Bush totally out of his mind?
Abbas=partner for peace
Olmert=an honest guy
[THUNK]
That was my head hitting the keyboard.

The Abbas comment is wishful thinking gone nuts.
The Olmert comment.........he got that line from Dick.

#36 psaturn 5/12/08 2:03:59 pm 0

re: #6 WriterMom

Jon Voigt is a Mensch.


Wow! He is Angelina Jolie's father? I never knew that ! I don't see any resemblance there...was she adopted? (just kidding!)

#37 Intrepid 5/12/08 2:04:46 pm 0

re: #15 jcm

Wouldn't be any fun without them...
Get three for the price of one!

SFW but not much else.

What is it with gray-haired, democrat ex-Presidents that makes them get so pouty?

[Link: nolablogger.blogspot.com...]

#38 Ma Sands 5/12/08 2:04:50 pm 0

re: #22 WrathofG-d

Forgive my ignorance, Wrath -- but could you tell me.....are all those people groups newly come to Israel, to stay? Is it a continual great movement toward Israel? If so, when did the largest flow begin? Is it to do only with the anniversary?

#39 psaturn 5/12/08 2:05:24 pm 0

re: #34 jcm

'progressive' evangelical'... is that cognitive dissonance or what?


Like they say, the more education you get, the more cognitive dissonance?

It is those "bitter ones that cling to guns and Bible" who seem to have more sense !

LOL

#40 gop_patriot 5/12/08 2:05:57 pm 0

re: #34 jcm

'progressive' evangelical'... is that cognitive dissonance or what?

That's exactly what I was thinking. Mental gymnastics olympic medal contender.

#41 Dianna 5/12/08 2:05:57 pm 1

re: #32 psaturn

What is with 'progressive' mindset and lack of wisdom ?

Because they believe that everyone can be made better all at once, just find the right leader, and the promised land is just around the corner.

It's a failure of perspective, really. Every single human being - on his or her own - can change and improve their behavior. But people in the mass...not so much.

#42 jcm 5/12/08 2:05:58 pm 0

re: #37 Intrepid

What is it with gray-haired, democrat ex-Presidents that makes them get so pouty?

[Link: nolablogger.blogspot.com...]

BJ didn't get a mulligan! Or the ball girl was occupied elsewhere.

#43 psaturn 5/12/08 2:08:08 pm 0

re: #41 Dianna

Because they believe that everyone can be made better all at once, just find the right leader, and the promised land is just around the corner.

It's a failure of perspective, really. Every single human being - on his or her own - can change and improve their behavior. But people in the mass...not so much.


Interesting thought...I think you change one individual at a time, rather than the masses...

#44 redstateredneck 5/12/08 2:08:12 pm 0

re: #16 taxfreekiller

So,, whats this about?

EDS votes to sell itself to Hewitt/Packard ?

What, what? I've got a friend who works for EDS. They're owned by GM now.

#45 Intrepid 5/12/08 2:08:42 pm 0

re: #42 jcm

BJ didn't get a mulligan! Or the ball girl was occupied elsewhere.

Or BJ didn't get a bj - probably 'cause the ball girl (heh) was occupied elsewhere. Maybe with Vernon.

#46 jcm 5/12/08 2:09:14 pm 0

Rove (you magnificent bastard) on Medved.
Stream

#48 Nevergiveup 5/12/08 2:10:16 pm 0

re: #38 Ma Sands

Forgive my ignorance, Wrath -- but could you tell me.....are all those people groups newly come to Israel, to stay? Is it a continual great movement toward Israel? If so, when did the largest flow begin? Is it to do only with the anniversary?

Other than in the initial years of the creation of the State Of Israel, the single largest Aliyah ( in gathering or "going up" ) was the 1,000,000 or so Russian Jews who came when the Iron Curtain fell.

#49 Occasional Reader 5/12/08 2:10:44 pm 0

Raymond Chandler? Wasn't he a character on "Friends"?

/

#50 Dianna 5/12/08 2:11:29 pm 0

re: #43 psaturn

That's what I think, too.

You distrust systems, too?

#51 Ma Sands 5/12/08 2:12:15 pm 0

re: #48 Nevergiveup

That's what I had thought......are the photos Wrath linked to, a new, large, permanent in-flow, then?

#52 MandyManners 5/12/08 2:12:28 pm 0

re: #49 Occasional Reader

Raymond Chandler? Wasn't he a character on "Friends"?

/

Doesn't everyone love Raymond?

#53 Teacake! 5/12/08 2:12:45 pm 0

Speaking of the LAW... I'm not sure if I should tell the local beat cops about I think a new cop who was in our local dive last night drinking booze and making out with one of the very young customers. I'm not about to report him to the top, but would it be cool or not to mention this to the other cops in our area? (New Orleans of course)

#54 Intrepid 5/12/08 2:12:50 pm 0

What in the world kind of bathroom hand towel costs $400? Anybody ever used one? Seen one?

#55 Ward Cleaver 5/12/08 2:13:03 pm 0

re: #36 psaturn

Wow! He is Angelina Jolie's father? I never knew that ! I don't see any resemblance there...was she adopted? (just kidding!)

Yeah, her real name is Angelina Jolie Voigt.

#56 buzzsawmonkey 5/12/08 2:13:56 pm 0

re: #38 Ma Sands

re: #48 Nevergiveup

But there are always people making aliyah...just as there are also always people who leave, for a short time or permanently.

#57 Teacake! 5/12/08 2:14:06 pm 0

And yes, he was in uniform on the job.

#58 Killgore Trout 5/12/08 2:14:10 pm 1

UN Springs into action....
UN frustration at Burma response


UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has expressed his "immense frustration" at Burma's slow response to the cyclone that hit the country nine days ago.
...
"I therefore call in the most strenuous terms on the government of Myanmar to put its people's lives first."

Yeah, that'll work.

#59 Ward Cleaver 5/12/08 2:14:11 pm 0

re: #54 Intrepid

What in the world kind of bathroom hand towel costs $400? Anybody ever used one? Seen one?

One that comes with a maid?

#60 WrathofG-d 5/12/08 2:14:31 pm 0

re: #38 Ma Sands

The peoplo in the pictures are Olim. This means they are immigrating to Israel to live, presumably, for the rest of their lives. In Israel they call this return/immigration to Israel of Jews "making 'alliyah'". Aliyah literally means "to go up". The theory being that Jews are ascending to our biblical place, and returning up to the Land G-d promised to us. (give or take meaning). When a Jew get to Israel, he/she is not greated with "Welcome to Israel", or "Enjoy your stay" but the more appropriate, "Welcome home".

Alliyah has steadily been taking place in Israel since before its acceptance as a UN recognized "formal" country on May 14, 1948. I do not have any actual stats to share with you (nor the time right now to find them, sorry!), but you can probably get all the info about making Aliyah from the sites below.

There are many wonderful organization that participate in this "gathering of the exciles" from "gulus" (diaspora / outside of Israel). One of which is called Nefesh B'Nefesh, and another The Jewish Agency For Israel.

-a wonderful, touching video re: one such Aliyah!

#61 Ward Cleaver 5/12/08 2:14:50 pm 0

re: #58 Killgore Trout

UN Springs into action....
UN frustration at Burma response


Yeah, that'll work.

Next, the strongly-worded letter.

/noooooooooooooooooooooo!

#62 Honorary Yooper 5/12/08 2:15:33 pm 1

re: #53 Teacake!

Speaking of the LAW... I'm not sure if I should tell the local beat cops about I think a new cop who was in our local dive last night drinking booze and making out with one of the very young customers. I'm not about to report him to the top, but would it be cool or not to mention this to the other cops in our area? (New Orleans of course)

Don't know how much it might help. Odds are, being New Orleans, you'll get more cops in there making out with the young customers and boozing it up.

#63 pat 5/12/08 2:16:07 pm 0

re Voight article. Muslims are so elequent. That must be why Allah chose to speak in this colorful, but spare tongue./

#64 Honorary Yooper 5/12/08 2:16:39 pm 0

re: #61 Ward Cleaver

Next, the strongly-worded letter.

/noooooooooooooooooooooo!

Will the UN also wave the finger of irritation at them?

#65 WrathofG-d 5/12/08 2:16:52 pm 0

re: #48 Nevergiveup

Other than in the initial years of the creation of the State Of Israel, the single largest Aliyah ( in gathering or "going up" ) was the 1,000,000 or so Russian Jews who came when the Iron Curtain fell.

Let's not forget the amazing Operation Solomon

#66 wahabicorridor 5/12/08 2:17:08 pm 1

BWAHAHAHA!

So, when the U.S. invented GPS, it did made the technology available to anyone and everyone for free.

Well, the EUnichs, in one of their totally predictable "We NOT eunichs" moment, decided they'd invent their own system and let every one have TOO, so there!

'Cept they didn't. They kept it proprietary. Not that they want to be accused of capitalism or anything.

SO AMERICANS CRACKED THE CODES!

#67 Nevergiveup 5/12/08 2:17:31 pm 0

re: #51 Ma Sands

That's what I had thought......are the photos Wrath linked to, a new, large, permanent in-flow, then?

There has always been an in-flow, but often it is nothing more than a trickle. There have been some major Aliyahs. During the Presidency of President Bush 1, almost 30,000 Ethiopion Jews were flown to Israel in one weekend. Israel took every available plane in it's inventory, including riping the seats out of some of it's commercial planes to accomplish that. And President Bush also sent American planes and logistic help. But the more ordinary Aliyah is a couple of hundred here and there.

#68 Honorary Yooper 5/12/08 2:17:56 pm 1

re: #63 pat

re Voight article. Muslims are so elequent. That must be why Allah chose to speak in this colorful, but spare tongue./

What amazed me the most in the comments section was the open hatred for Jews. Several comments were claiming Voight was speding too much time with them.

There is a bad craziness loose again.

#69 maddogg 5/12/08 2:18:06 pm 0

re: #11 WriterMom

Is President Bush totally out of his mind?

Abbas=partner for peace
Olmert=an honest guy

[THUNK]

That was my head hitting the keyboard.

I guess George was not satisfied with just the moonbats thinking he is clueless. Remember, he looked into Putin's eyes and mistook the evil communist dwarf he saw in there for a soul.

#70 NoSubmission 5/12/08 2:18:13 pm 0
The law isn’t justice. It’s a very imperfect mechanism. If you press exactly the right buttons and are also lucky, justice may show up in the answer. A mechanism is all the law was ever intended to be.
Raymond Chandler


Love the quote, Charles. I'll keep that one handy..

#71 DownRightMeanAmerican 5/12/08 2:18:35 pm 0

re: #39 psaturn

Like they say, the more education you get, the more cognitive dissonance?

It is those "bitter ones that cling to guns and Bible" who seem to have more sense !

LOL

I have noticed that a few sheets of Bounce fabric softener in your pockets tends to make one a little less clingy.

#72 Nevergiveup 5/12/08 2:19:29 pm 0

re: #65 WrathofG-d

Let's not forget the amazing Operation Solomon

I know. I was there.

#73 A Kiwi Infidel 5/12/08 2:19:40 pm 0

re: #3 WriterMom

Oh good..I was getting tired of the other thread.

I didnt even get a chance at the other thread, being "out-zoned"

#74 WrathofG-d 5/12/08 2:20:12 pm 0

re: #51 Ma Sands

Wiki on Aliyah
(I didn't read it so I couldn't tell you if it is biased or not, or even accurate. However it is probably a great starting point)

Immigration to Israel started with Moses, and Joshua was the first Olim.

#76 pat 5/12/08 2:22:12 pm