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Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:17:00 am PDT

When you were a tadpole and I was a fish
In the Paleozoic time,
And side by side on the ebbing tide
We sprawled through the ooze and slime,
Or skittered with many a caudal flip
Through the depths of the Cambrian fen,
My heart was rife with the joy of life,
For I loved you even then.

Langdon Smith

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1 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:17:46am

Good morning, Lizards!

2 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:20:24am

"Personal Responsibility is not the way to solve racism!"

-some moonbat, from this debate about affirmative action in American colleges

/good morning

3 Bubblehead II  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:21:03am

Morning goddess

4 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:22:12am

Good morning goddess. welcome to the late night/early morning threads.

5 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:25:45am

{Bubblehead II}
{BlueCanuck}

Hey, BlueCanuck, any news?

6 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:27:07am

re: #5 goddessoftheclassroom

Nothing yet. Just hope everything is okay.

7 Hengineer  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:28:24am

re: #2 laZardo

"Personal Responsibility is not the way to solve racism!"

-some moonbat, from this debate about affirmative action in American colleges

/good morning

I have one question, how do you "solve" racism?

8 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:29:14am

About time! This thread is half an hour late!

/harumph

9 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:29:18am

re: #7 Hengineer

...I don't know. o_O

10 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:30:23am

re: #7 Hengineer

I have one question, how do you "solve" racism?

My personal belief? You can't, it will always exist in one form or another.

/just the way we as a species are wired.

11 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:30:52am

Good morning, Lizards. What the hell am I doing up so early?

12 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:31:16am

re: #11 infidelia

A job to go to maybe?

13 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:31:48am

Ah, that's it! Took a couple days off!

14 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:32:53am

I see the Celts still can't win one on the road. What's up with that?

15 Hengineer  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:33:10am

re: #10 BlueCanuck

My personal belief? You can't, it will always exist in one form or another.

/just the way we as a species are wired.

People pre-judge by appearances, its a fact of life.

However you can minimize the overt racism by doing away with conventions and laws that use it. Now the only ones still left are the reverse-discrimination designed to give preferential treatment to the so-called minorities (In my home state of California I think Caucasians are now a minority).

16 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:34:21am

re: #15 Hengineer

Or you could just hate all races (even your own) equally. This way you're technically not a bigot...

/works for me...

17 Mich-again  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:35:17am
For I loved you even then.

Reminds me a bit of Jeremiah 1:5

"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations."

(Not from Obama's Jeremiah btw)

18 Tigger2005  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:35:18am

A tadpole and a fish? Kinky ... and possibly illegal.

19 Hengineer  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:36:12am

re: #16 laZardo

Or you could just hate all races (even your own) equally. This way you're technically not a bigot...

/works for me...

Exactly.

I sometimes even hate myself, the ultimate in non-preferential treatment

20 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:37:06am

re: #10 BlueCanuck

My personal belief? You can't, it will always exist in one form or another.

/just the way we as a species are wired.

Well, I don't think we can "solve" noticing that people look different from us.

We have abolished institutional discrimination, and culturally certain words, once very common, are now taboo.

We can endeavor to educate our children that these differences are inferiorities, and that all people deserve to be treated with respect BASED ON THEIR CHOICES AND BEHAVIOR.

Sadly, when a member of a particular race or ethnic groups behaves in a certain way, the reaction of some is, "See? That's a typical white person."

21 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:38:20am

re: #18 Tigger2005

A tadpole and a fish? Kinky ... and possibly illegal.

They caught a seal hitting on a penguin the other day. Now that's kinky...

22 Bubblehead II  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:39:32am

Lebanese army begins drive to restore order

Hezbollah's success so far has sapped the credibility of the Siniora government and its main patron, the United States, which has cast Lebanon as a fragile democracy endangered by the ambitions of Hezbollah and its Iranian and Syrian backers.

/typical al-reuters spin job.

23 Hengineer  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:39:59am

re: #21 infidelia

They caught a seal hitting on a penguin the other day. Now that's kinky...

well the penguin was eating ice cream earlier and someone said "looks like you just blew a seal"

the penguin replied, nah its just ice cream.

24 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:43:29am

More proof that the EU is a criminal enterprise

Brussels has proposed that all cars sold in Europe in 2012, whether European-made or not, should reach an overall objective of 120-130 grammes (4.2-4.6 ounces) of CO2 emitted per kilometre (0.6 miles), as opposed to an average of 160 grammes today.
But such is the genius of our central government that it is developed an even more imaginative scam. Knowing full well that its standards cannot be met, it is proposing that car manufacturers can continue selling "sub-standard" cars, but must pay a fine to the EU for each vehicle they make.
This starts in 2012 with a charge of €20 (30 dollars) per extra gramme of CO2 per car, with the penalties rising to €95 by 2015. By any account, this has the makings of being a nice little earner, and brings lawmaking to new heights: make laws that people cannot obey and then fine them for not obeying them. How long before New Labour latches on to this principle?

25 Bubblehead II  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:46:59am

U.S. victims of attacks in Israel sue Swiss bank

NEW YORK (Reuters) - American victims of bombings and rocket attacks in Israel have sued Swiss bank UBS AG for more than $500 million, accusing the bank of helping fund the militants behind the attacks through dealings with Iran.

And the State Dept. will have this quashed in how many day?

26 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:52:18am

re: #24 wahabicorridor

More proof that the EU is a criminal enterprise

Good Morning!

That sounds like a good old fashioned MA scam....

27 Widow'smight  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:55:10am

re: #26 loppyd

I guess the cute little birdies will begin to sing now that Europe. Open the window Cinderella.

Doesn't MA continue to tax your car for 8 years after you buy it?

28 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:57:02am

Morning, Loppyd. Is this 20 mph "breeze" going to stop or what? Can't sit on the beach without freezing to death...

29 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:57:29am

Neal Lawson should be taken out and shot - or why the UK is lost.

The condition of Britain demands not more individualism but greater collective identity and action. From Northern Rock and the credit crunch to the anxiety and insecurity of failing markets in housing, pensions and labour supply, the challenge of the modern democratic left is to devise the architecture that will enable democracy to flourish and the people to take back control of both the economy and the state. Our need to belong, to share, to cooperate, is an inextinguishable flame in all of us and it is the abiding purpose of the centre-left to modernise the form it takes.

Fashioning a new form of collectivism for the centre-left provides not just a practical programme for government but crucially a moral compass. It is the progressive belief that given the chance, the resources and space, people can take proper and full control of their lives. Ultimately the centre-left is driven by the belief that the accident of birth - whether good or bad - should not determine the quality of our lives. Instead we pool some of our liberty in an act of enlightened self-interest to ensure we all reach our full potential. Democracy is the means by which this cooperative deal is struck between us. But in making it we discover not just instrumental benefit but intrinsic satisfaction.

And now I'm off...........

30 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:57:57am

re: #27 Widow'smight

I guess the cute little birdies will begin to sing now that Europe. Open the window Cinderella.

Doesn't MA continue to tax your car for 8 years after you buy it?

Yeah, it's called excise tax. They excise $ from your wallet.

31 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 3:59:17am

re: #26 loppyd

Morning loppy - bye loppy

/prayers for the stepdad

32 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:01:48am

re: #29 wahabicorridor

Neal Lawson should be taken out and shot - or why the UK is lost.


And now I'm off...........

Always the same "solution" from this lot: give up, give up, give up. Become one with the hive.

33 Widow'smight  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:03:12am

re: #30 infidelia

PA has it's share of taxes too, including one of the highest gasoline taxes in the country.

Is your Nic some type of Onion? I love Infidelia Onion Dressing.

34 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:04:27am

re: #27 Widow'smight

I guess the cute little birdies will begin to sing now that Europe. Open the window Cinderella.

Doesn't MA continue to tax your car for 8 years after you buy it?

Good Morning!

$25 per thousand of the car's value for as long as you own it.

35 Bubblehead II  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:04:39am

Something a bit light hearted for an otherwise dreary news day :)

Zero Gravity Water Bubble

36 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:06:27am

re: #28 infidelia

Morning, Loppyd. Is this 20 mph "breeze" going to stop or what? Can't sit on the beach without freezing to death...

It's freezing! I have the heat on for crying out loud.

37 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:07:08am

re: #31 wahabicorridor

Thank you! Have a good day, wahabi.

38 Widow'smight  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:07:43am

re: #34 loppyd

Wanna borrow my Pick-axe to mess up the body a little? Or, take it out muddin and leave it like that. You know, "Get a mud on the tires". I'm sure the BF ain't gonna mind that MUCH.

39 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:07:50am

re: #32 infidelia

"Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated."

40 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:10:06am

re: #33 Widow'smight

PA has it's share of taxes too, including one of the highest gasoline taxes in the country.

Is your Nic some type of Onion? I love Infidelia Onion Dressing.

My nic's the result of happening to be listening to Beethoven when I discovered the register was open. Play on "Fidelio". Don't mind sounding like fave onion vidalia, though.

41 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:11:00am

re: #36 loppyd

It's freezing! I have the heat on for crying out loud.

Took two days off so I could hang out on the beach. Hah. Even the seagulls are all over at the Danvers malls.

42 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:12:32am

re: #41 infidelia

They are probably there for the higher end of scavenging.

/willing to bet there's a Mickey D's nearby.

43 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:13:07am

re: #27 Widow'smight

I guess the cute little birdies will begin to sing now that Europe. Open the window Cinderella.

Doesn't MA continue to tax your car for 8 years after you buy it?

Even after 8 years you continue to pay excise tax for as long as you own the car - and sometimes for some time after you have gotten rid of it. To add insult to injury, if you are billed for excise tax for a car that you do not own, you must first pay the bill before you are allowed to dispute your responsibility for taxes on a vehicle you don't own.

44 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:13:16am

re: #38 Widow'smight

Wanna borrow my Pick-axe to mess up the body a little? Or, take it out muddin and leave it like that. You know, "Get a mud on the tires". I'm sure the BF ain't gonna mind that MUCH.

You are sweet to offer, but my car isn't the problem. The Jeep is an '07 so it hurts extra when it's time to pay up.

45 Irish Rose  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:13:54am

Good morning, lizards.
46 degrees and partly cloudy along the Lake Michigan shoreline.

I have completed my coursework and my work hours have stabilized, so I am back on the morning thread.

Howz everyone?

46 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:14:42am

re: #42 BlueCanuck

They are probably there for the higher end of scavenging.

/willing to bet there's a Mickey D's nearby.

Actually I think it's the Kelley's. These guys know quality.

47 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:15:24am

re: #45 Irish Rose

Good morning, lizards.
46 degrees and partly cloudy along the Lake Michigan shoreline.

I have completed my coursework and my work hours have stabilized, so I am back on the morning thread.

Howz everyone?

Okay, now I know I need coffee. I read that as housework and was trying desperately to figure out what kind of a person could have all of her housework done by 5 in the morning. HAHAH.

Congratulations :)

48 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:15:28am

re: #41 infidelia

Took two days off so I could hang out on the beach. Hah. Even the seagulls are all over at the Danvers malls.

Bummer!

So solly...

49 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:15:42am

re: #45 Irish Rose

Good morning, just stumbling along myself waiting for the relief to show up.

50 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:16:46am

re: #46 infidelia

Actually I think it's the Kelley's. These guys know quality.

Indeed their is. But if it's a warm roast beef sandwich you crave, you need to take yourself to Nick's Roast Beef in No. Beverly!

51 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:17:20am

Hmmm, fairly slow news morning. All my RSS feeds are still old news.

/well old since I last checked.

52 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:17:26am

re: #48 loppyd

Bummer!

So solly...

Thanks. I think I'll go see "Iron Man" tonight. Looks like a good pick-me-up.

How's your dad doing? Did they confirm the C-Dif?

53 BBev  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:18:43am

re: #41 infidelia

Took two days off so I could hang out on the beach. Hah. Even the seagulls are all over at the Danvers malls.

What the matter to many needles on Rivier Beach

54 Widow'smight  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:19:27am

re: #40 infidelia

Music is good when you're thinking about food. It was ugly here yesterday, but Today the sun is shining and the birdies chirping. Me thinks my grass will make significant progress in it's upward mobility program.

55 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:21:01am

re: #7 Hengineer

I have one question, how do you "solve" racism?

Government control and lots of money. Duh. The same way they want to solve all problems.

56 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:22:03am

re: #53 BBev

What the matter to many needles on Rivier Beach

These gulls are further up the coast and the Kelley's outlet is "inland". The ones in Revere just stand across the street and watch for french frys to fall.

57 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:22:07am

re: #52 infidelia

Thanks. I think I'll go see "Iron Man" tonight. Looks like a good pick-me-up.

How's your dad doing? Did they confirm the C-Dif?

He's my step-father, actually.....and he is doing much better. Able to eat again which means he's baaaaaaaaaaack! LOL

Yes, they did confirm it.

Thanks for asking!

58 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:22:13am

re: #55 JamesTKirk

Hmmm, I think of the old saw when I hear that. Elephant: a mouse built to government standards.

59 BBev  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:23:18am

re: #56 infidelia

These gulls are further up the coast and the Kelley's outlet is "inland". The ones in Revere just stand across the street and watch for french frys to fall.

Man I am so glad I got out there.

60 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:23:56am

re: #24 wahabicorridor

And the car manufacturers will pass on that extra cost to the consumer, who will wonder why cars have gotten so expensive recently. The government and media will tell them that it is all the fault of the greedy Big Auto.

61 Bubblehead II  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:23:59am

Well time to finish getting ready for work.

Hope everybody has a good day.

L8R

62 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:24:27am

re: #61 Bubblehead II

Well time to finish getting ready for work.

Hope everybody has a good day.

L8R

Have a super tuesday!

63 Widow'smight  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:25:44am

re: #43 galloping granny


There must be a reason people live there. I noticed that MA doesn't have one Republican in the US house or senate. Course, the republicans are just Dumbo-lite for the most part.

We pay a 6% sales tax at the time of purchase, and that's it. 3.3% income tax, 6% sales tax on everything else except food and clothes.

Here's a gem though. You pay tax on seed and vegetable plants which you grow for food?

Glad there isn't a redneck tax.

64 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:26:12am

re: #59 BBev

Man I am so glad I got out there.

You used to live in Revere?

My friend's Nonna lived there. I loved going to her house....never left hungry that's for sure!

65 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:26:52am

re: #52 infidelia

Thanks. I think I'll go see "Iron Man" tonight. Looks like a good pick-me-up.

I'm debating seeing it again this weekend. It's a good movie, and I also want to try to see Captain America's shield in Tony Stark's workroom. They say it's there...

66 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:27:16am

re: #63 Widow'smight

seeds are taxable and some veggie plants as well....lettuce plants are not as you can eat them and herb plants are the same.

67 The Albatross  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:27:47am

Glad to here he's doing so much better loppyd.

68 Widow'smight  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:28:38am

re: #44 loppyd


My two 4x4s are 92 and 94, so they're probably not worth much. They run fine though, especially my 92 F250, purrs like a giant kitten.

69 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:28:48am

Have a good one, BH.

Picked up a "National Enquirer" second time this year yesterday. They are still flogging this possible scandal involvng the Obamassiah and the murder of TUCC's gay choir master. Not as good as the Times finally asking whether or not he's an apostate in the eyes of the Islamists, but at this point I'll grasp at any straw.

70 The Albatross  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:28:54am

I got nothing and am just along for the ride this morning.

71 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:29:17am

Time to head in to the office.

BBL maybe.

Hope everyone has a great day!

72 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:29:48am

re: #67 The Albatross

Glad to here he's doing so much better loppyd.

Thank you very much!

73 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:29:56am

re: #66 loppyd

seeds are taxable and some veggie plants as well....lettuce plants are not as you can eat them and herb plants are the same.

If somebody is trying to charge you Mass tax on seeds you had better double check the law. Those used to be specifically exempt from tax. You can use food stamps to buy them.

Oddly enough, in MA shoelaces are taxable but baby oil is not. You figure that one out - I never was able to. There are several oddities like that.

74 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:30:55am

re: #72 loppyd

Thank you very much!

Have a good one, loppyd. Keep an eye peeled for "Outlaw Sharia" if you go through the square.

75 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:30:59am

re: #68 Widow'smight

My two 4x4s are 92 and 94, so they're probably not worth much. They run fine though, especially my 92 F250, purrs like a giant kitten.

my Outback is an 01 so this year won't hurt quite so much.

The BF almost got the F150 instead of the jeep. I loved it!

Gotta fly now....

76 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:34:12am

re: #75 loppyd

my Outback is an 01 so this year won't hurt quite so much.

The BF almost got the F150 instead of the jeep. I loved it!

Gotta fly now....

'99 Forester I've had it 3 years and so far the only work it's needed is brakes. Using the rebate check to get the baby new shoes on all 4 wheels...

77 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:39:13am

Uh oh. Dead thread...

78 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:39:53am

re: #77 infidelia

Uh oh. Dead thread...

Kick it.

79 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:40:33am

CODE BLUE, get the crash cart stat.

/now where did I put that car battery.

80 opnion  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:40:54am

Good Morning Lizards. Here I sit in the airport after doing the Security perp walk. Bin Laden sits is his cave watching CNN with his Obama yard sign outside.

81 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:40:58am

Morning all. Noticed that there are fresh comments on the obamarama-Israel thread!

82 BulgarWheat  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:42:15am

re: #80 opnion

Heh!

Been there too. I'm just glad that Richard Reid didn't try to hide the bomb up his bum. Woulda been a little bit worse than taking your shoes off.

83 The Albatross  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:42:19am
84 BBev  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:42:44am

re: #77 infidelia

Uh oh. Dead thread...


I sitting here at my deck designing a parking lot for the Laconia Bike week.

Anyone know of any job openings.

85 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:42:54am

re: #82 BulgarWheat

Heh!

Been there too. I'm just glad that Richard Reid didn't try to hide the bomb up his bum. Woulda been a little bit worse than taking your shoes off.

Hillary had a snuke in her snizz.

86 1SG(ret)  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:43:30am

Morning all. The DT seems to be deader than usual this morning, and the avitars are not working on my machine, anyone know what's up with that, or have I missed something?

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87 BulgarWheat  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:43:44am

re: #85 JamesTKirk

JTK, big howdy back at cha!

88 opnion  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:43:53am

re: #82 BulgarWheat

Heh!

Been there too. I'm just glad that Richard Reid didn't try to hide the bomb up his bum. Woulda been a little bit worse than taking your shoes off.


Ya know what? You just gave me a whole new perspective.
Not so bad really.

89 Irish Rose  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:44:00am

So, did anyone see this little tidbit yesterday?

Grandma Helps Stressed Troops; Sends Them Dolls Built to Take a Beating

My kneejerk response to this headline was a criticism towards those who would "infantize" our troops. But then I read the article.

"Army Staff Sgt. James Borchardt said that when tension rises in his tactical operations center in Iraq, he grabs his doll by the legs and beats the stuffing out of it.

"It made me laugh more than anything," he said in an e-mail. "I gave them to almost everyone in my unit."

Can't you just envision it?
Some grizzly officer with a five o'clock shadow in a tough zone somewhere, tired and stressed out... grabbing a goofy looking "stuffie" by the legs, hurling it around the room and beating the shit out of it while uttering a steady stream of profanity?

I like the concept.

I wonder how they hold up under target practice.

90 The Albatross  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:45:32am
91 BulgarWheat  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:46:40am

re: #88 opnion

Yeah, also think how much money it saved us. The poor, clueless TSA folks would have demanded a lot more pay if they ended up on the wrong end of me.

I spray shoe deo (Dr. Scholls) before I go to the airport. No use gagging the poor TSA folks.

92 The Albatross  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:46:51am

re: #86 1SG(ret)

I froze up on the main page this morning and had to reboot.... I got icons and seem to be running fine now. Could it be the new changes?

93 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:47:12am

re: #83 The Albatross

See that one car? It moved backwards from it's space at least 2 feet.

94 steveoh  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:47:18am

Good morning all. Has everyone read Dershowitz's piece on Jimmah Carter and his Arab money supply?Why does Jimmy Carter hate the Jews? Because he loves Arab money!

95 The Albatross  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:49:00am
96 1SG(ret)  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:49:30am

re: #92 The Albatross

Thanks, they are working for me now also. It seems every time I get back here there are new changes. I couldn't keep up last year, so I have no hope now I guess.
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97 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:50:32am

On this date in 1965 the Rolling Stones released " I can't get no satisfaction". I was 6. And the Stones still go on tour!

98 opnion  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:50:49am

The R kelly jury selection began yesterday (Bet he wishes that he could fly)
His defense atty is a high powered guy named Genson.
How long to play the race card? Why the first day. The defense is screaming because two African Americans were dismissed wiith premptory prosecution challenges.
A female called Kelly, 'A musical genuis", A male said ""because of delays ., Kelly could not get a fair trial"
Ok, three jurors seated, two of them African American.

99 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:50:51am

re: #93 BlueCanuck

See that one car? It moved backwards from it's space at least 2 feet.

3 minutes, that's like forever for a quake. Usually they just seem like 3 minutes...

Anybody else see the tornado video where the 2 cars flipped up and high-fived each other?

100 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:51:26am

re: #90 The Albatross

I remember them from Ridge Racer...

/RIIIIIIIIIDGE RAAAACERRRRR!

101 Irish Rose  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:52:00am

re: #97 pingjockey

On this date in 1965 the Rolling Stones released " I can't get no satisfaction". I was 6. And the Stones still go on tour!

Yep... and Jagger is ten times uglier than he was back then too.
Good clean living, I guess.

102 opnion  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:52:38am

re: #91 BulgarWheat

Yeah, also think how much money it saved us. The poor, clueless TSA folks would have demanded a lot more pay if they ended up on the wrong end of me.

I spray shoe deo (Dr. Scholls) before I go to the airport. No use gagging the poor TSA folks.


I just wish that there was a little more common sence.
Eight year old blonde kids are a little outside of the profile.

103 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:52:48am

re: #99 infidelia
Yah. Helluva video. Seems the gov't of Burma is using the cyclone to do a little population reduction. aid can come in but no aid workers.

104 BulgarWheat  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:53:45am

re: #98 opnion

R Kelly, he preyed on a young, black girl. Where's the outrage of that. Child molestation is a heinous, unforgivable sin from my perspective.

I simply do not understand that line of thought. I just don't.

105 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:53:56am

re: #101 Irish Rose
I'll bet if Keith Richards had known he was going to live this long he might have taken better care of himself!

106 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:54:06am

re: #94 steveoh

A lot of universities on the West Coast are showered with East Asian money...but at least they (we?) generally appreciate the value of a proper Western education.

107 BulgarWheat  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:55:11am

re: #105 pingjockey

At this point, if Keith quit smoking, drinking, and dope I'd wager he'd be dead in 6 months.

He's being artificially preserved, me thinks.

108 opnion  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:56:16am

re: #104 BulgarWheat

R Kelly, he preyed on a young, black girl. Where's the outrage of that. Child molestation is a heinous, unforgivable sin from my perspective.

I simply do not understand that line of thought. I just don't.


Whoa, whoa! He is a "musical genius" Come on ! For all we know his father may have ignored him or something.

109 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:56:44am

re: #107 BulgarWheat
Mwahaha! Did you see the Saturday nite live episode where Jagger did his Richards imitation? Hilarious. Richards speaks a language known only to Keith.

110 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:57:04am

re: #104 BulgarWheat

They're only starting the trial now? o_O

/the parody's already pretty old...

111 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:57:44am

re: #102 opnion

I just wish that there was a little more common sence.
Eight year old blonde kids are a little outside of the profile.

So is my 87 year old WWII disabled Veteran father in his flight jacket & walker, LOL. Last time he flew home they actually made the poor old guy take his shoes off (he can barely stand up!) and THEN they tried to steal an engraved lighter that has never had lighter fluid in it given to him as a souvenir decades ago that he wanted to take back to Florida. Luckily my sister was standing there and refused to give it to them.

112 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:57:45am

re: #102 opnion

I just wish that there was a little more common sense.

Common Sense

113 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:58:21am

re: #105 pingjockey

I'll bet if Keith Richards had known he was going to live this long he might have taken better care of himself!

It might just be that all the drugs are what kept him going this long...

114 freetoken  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:58:41am

re: #35 Bubblehead II

Science!

/trying my best KT imitation...

115 Irish Rose  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:59:06am
116 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 4:59:39am

re: #115 Irish Rose
Bloody scary!

117 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:00:15am

re: #105 pingjockey

If there's ever a nuclear holocaust, the only things left on earth will be cockroaches and Keith Richards looking dazed.

/from some rock magazine of my bro's...

118 opnion  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:00:35am

re: #111 galloping granny

So is my 87 year old WWII disabled Veteran father in his flight jacket & walker, LOL. Last time he flew home they actually made the poor old guy take his shoes off (he can barely stand up!) and THEN they tried to steal an engraved lighter that has never had lighter fluid in it given to him as a souvenir decades ago that he wanted to take back to Florida. Luckily my sister was standing there and refused to give it to them.


I saw tjhem hassle a guy in the Cleaerwater Airport. He had on a prosthetic , leg & they ere tugging on it.
The guy had to be 85, you know bermudas & black socks

119 Miss Trixie  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:01:36am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards}! &#9836 &#9834

A beeeeYOOOOtiful day in the valley with plenty of sinshine and it's warming up. Coffee and Danish are on me so hep yoself.

:D

120 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:01:40am

re: #118 opnion

I saw tjhem hassle a guy in the Cleaerwater Airport. He had on a prosthetic , leg & they ere tugging on it.
The guy had to be 85, you know bermudas & black socks

"Just wait'll some 85-year-old terrorist hides a bomb in his prosthetic leg, then we'll be saying 'I told you so'!"
-TSA morons

121 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:02:26am

re: #111 galloping granny

So is my 87 year old WWII disabled Veteran father in his flight jacket & walker, LOL. Last time he flew home they actually made the poor old guy take his shoes off (he can barely stand up!) and THEN they tried to steal an engraved lighter that has never had lighter fluid in it given to him as a souvenir decades ago that he wanted to take back to Florida. Luckily my sister was standing there and refused to give it to them.

How's this for irony? The lighting in the photo is not so good. Note the *scarf* on the TSA employee....

122 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:02:51am

re: #118 opnion

I saw tjhem hassle a guy in the Cleaerwater Airport. He had on a prosthetic , leg & they ere tugging on it.
The guy had to be 85, you know bermudas & black socks

That really should be outlawed! Do they ever actually hassle anyone at all that might actually be a terrorist?

123 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:02:53am

re: #117 laZardo
That dazed look is his normal state. The whole bs with the TSA is bs. They only check about 10% of the luggage going on board! Into the cargo hold. They also keep busting illegals working in "secure" areas. Feh! The "punk" is now on Fox.

124 opnion  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:03:12am

re: #120 JamesTKirk

"Just wait'll some 85-year-old terrorist hides a bomb in his prosthetic leg, then we'll be saying 'I told you so'!"
-TSA morons


Thats what you get when you hire guys who failed the test for the Post Office.

125 opnion  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:03:36am

re: #122 galloping granny

That really should be outlawed! Do they ever actually hassle anyone at all that might actually be a terrorist?

No

126 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:03:53am

re: #122 galloping granny
No! That wouldn't be PC!

127 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:04:04am

re: #119 Miss Trixie

Coffee and Danish are on me...

Sounds sticky.

128 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:04:32am

re: #121 Grammy Cracker

How's this for irony? The lighting in the photo is not so good. Note the *scarf* on the TSA employee....

I saw that photo a while back. Strange, huh? Seems to me like the henhouse is suddenly inhabited by a bunch of wolves and the farmer is paying no attention at all.

129 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:05:13am

re: #124 opnion

Poignantly upding'd.

130 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:05:19am

re: #122 galloping granny

That really should be outlawed! Do they ever actually hassle anyone at all that might actually be a terrorist?

Nope. Because that would be "profiling".

And any liberal will tell you that "profile" is a dirty word, since it's an anagram of "pro-life".

131 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:05:38am

re: #128 galloping granny

I saw that photo a while back. Strange, huh? Seems to me like the henhouse is suddenly inhabited by a bunch of wolves and the farmer is paying no attention at all.

Hell, the farmer's giving them the keys....

/GACK!

132 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:05:42am

re: #126 pingjockey

No! That wouldn't be PC Islamophobic!

/fix'd

133 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:06:01am

re: #124 opnion

Thats what you get when you hire guys who failed the test for the Post Office.

And the guys who fail the test for the Post Office and the TSA will be the ones running Universal Health Care.

134 Miss Trixie  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:06:10am

re: #127 JamesTKirk

Sounds sticky.

*snort*

Trust you to come up with that.

Sheesh.

135 Ackomanyuki  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:06:15am

The Flyers will beat the Pens tonight, pigs will fly, and Obama is a classical liberal.

My sports post for the year.

136 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:06:23am

re: #126 pingjockey

No! That wouldn't be PC!

That actually is my instinct too. That they hassle folks so they can say they are doing something but deliberately don't go anywhere near anyone who might conceivably claim that they were profiled. Kind of profiling in reverse if you know what I mean.

137 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:06:25am

re: #132 laZardo
Why, thank you!

138 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:07:44am

re: #134 Miss Trixie

re: #127 JamesTKirk
re: #119 Miss Trixie
Coffee and Danish are on me...

Sounds sticky.

*snort*
Trust you to come up with that.
Sheesh.

What can I say? I know sticky.

139 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:07:49am

re: #127 JamesTKirk

Sounds sticky.

Jim, you naughty boy! Are you at it already this morning? LOL

140 opnion  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:08:01am

re: #133 JamesTKirk

And the guys who fail the test for the Post Office and the TSA will be the ones running Universal Health Care.

Yup,good point

141 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:08:14am

re: #139 Grammy Cracker

Jim, you naughty boy! Are you at it already this morning? LOL

It's five o'clock somewhere.

142 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:08:30am

re: #139 Grammy Cracker

Jim, you naughty boy! Are you at it already this morning? LOL

You mean he actually behaves from time to time?

143 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:08:45am

The nuns are being searched by muslimas in hijab but we are not to speak the word "jihad".

144 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:08:53am

re: #138 JamesTKirk
Damn Tholians!

145 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:09:21am
Breaking News > Chinese Media Says 18,645 Buried in Town Near Quake's Epicenter

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

146 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:09:33am

re: #136 galloping granny

That actually is my instinct too. That they hassle folks so they can say they are doing something but deliberately don't go anywhere near anyone who might conceivably claim that they were profiled. Kind of profiling in reverse if you know what I mean.

IIRC, they can actually be fined if they search too many muslims (more than two per plane). It's been said that all terrorists have to do is send two suspicious muslims through the line first, and then the rest of them can carry on anything they want.

147 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:09:50am

re: #140 opnion

Yup,good point

I think they're the one's currently in charge of the State Department.....

/ [not so much]

148 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:10:16am

re: #142 BlueCanuck

You mean he actually behaves from time to time?

I behave.

Badly.

149 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:10:55am
Iran's support for Hizbullah's "coup" in Lebanon will affect Iran's relations with Arab and Islamic countries, Saudi Arabia's foreign minister said Tuesday.

Prince Saud al-Faisal has called on all Middle Eastern countries to respect Lebanon's independence and refrain from stoking sectarian tensions in the country. Iran and Syria back Hizbullah, which is considered a terrorist organization by the United States, but have denied meddling in Lebanon's internal affairs.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

150 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:11:34am

re: #143 infidelia

The nuns are being searched by muslimas in hijab but we are not to speak the word "jihad".

If the poor nun had hiked her habit up around her face, she probably would have sailed through - they would have thought it was a burka, which, of course, is perfectly acceptable.

151 Irish Rose  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:11:57am

re: #148 JamesTKirk

Ahhh... I love danish in the morning :).

152 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:11:58am

re: #149 storagemanager
Right......and water isn't wet!

153 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:12:22am

re: #142 BlueCanuck

You mean he actually behaves from time to time?

Eh, not so much! LOL

154 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:12:59am

re: #146 JamesTKirk

IIRC, they can actually be fined if they search too many muslims (more than two per plane). It's been said that all terrorists have to do is send two suspicious muslims through the line first, and then the rest of them can carry on anything they want.

That sounds like religious discrimination to me. And yet one more perfectly good reason to not fly.

155 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:13:18am

jihad, jihad, jihad, jihadi, boom! Can I get a fatwa now? Fuck stans' minions!

156 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:13:26am

re: #151 Irish Rose

Ahhh... I love danish in the morning :).

Jim, don't even go there...... ROFL.

/uh...guess I just did.... oops!

157 The Albatross  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:13:50am

Peta Alert... Japan has enslaved the monkey's (and makes them work for peanuts in a bar)

sorry... it must have been the sushi and saki I had last night, I'm on an Asian slide.

158 The Other Les  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:14:02am

re: #117 laZardo

If there's ever a nuclear holocaust, the only things left on earth will be cockroaches and Keith Richards looking dazed.

/from some rock magazine of my bro's...

I thought it was going to be cockroaches and Cher.

159 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:14:23am

re: #154 galloping granny

That sounds like religious discrimination to me. And yet one more perfectly good reason to not fly.

I haven't flown in almost three years, and airport security (or lack thereof) is one of the reasons.

160 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:14:47am

re: #154 galloping granny
I had to fly a year ago January. Lived up to all my non-expectations. Last time I'd taken a flight was 1995. San Diego to Bahrain.

161 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:15:04am

re: #156 Grammy Cracker

re: #151 Irish Rose
Ahhh... I love danish in the morning :).

Jim, don't even go there...... ROFL.

I can't. I'm not Danish.

162 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:16:07am

re: #157 The Albatross

sorry... it must have been the sushi and saki I had last night, I'm on an Asian slide.

163 steveoh  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:16:21am

re: #111 galloping granny

So is my 87 year old WWII disabled Veteran father in his flight jacket & walker, LOL. Last time he flew home they actually made the poor old guy take his shoes off (he can barely stand up!) and THEN they tried to steal an engraved lighter that has never had lighter fluid in it given to him as a souvenir decades ago that he wanted to take back to Florida. Luckily my sister was standing there and refused to give it to them.

Clearly these incidents are ridiculous. But remember the policy comes from the top down. If our own President is afraid to call out Islam for what it represents and the multi culti, political correctness crowd at State won't even recognize and clearly identify the enemies of America, why should some schlump making 12 bucks an hour act any differently. Their bosses are telling them to randomly select people as to avoid profiling.

On a good note, I won't say how I know, but a personal connection at TSA has informed me that while those $12/hr schlumps do their thing there are highly trained anti terror TSA officers in the back room, watching facial expressions and using Israeli techniques to spot trouble makers. The profiling is just happening behind closed doors. And that's a fact.

164 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:16:47am

re: #149 storagemanager

Because the arrival of the Mahdi would be bad for business at Mecca...

165 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:16:55am

re: #159 JamesTKirk

I haven't flown in almost three years, and airport security (or lack thereof) is one of the reasons.

I was last on a plane about 5 years ago for my daughter's wedding. Between airport "security" and being deliberately stranded in Denver by United Airlines for nearly a week, you wouldn't get me on a plane for love nor money, not even if you guaranteed me a first class seat.

Daughter wants to take me to England for a "vacation." I told her I'll go only if she can figure out how to get me there by train.

166 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:17:18am

Morning, Irish Rose! How's the new job working out? All good, I hope...

167 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:17:54am

re: #165 galloping granny

Daughter wants to take me to England for a "vacation." I told her I'll go only if she can figure out how to get me there by train.

I'll go if I can drive.

168 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:19:06am

Macuilliffe(sp) on Fox. I could smack him with a clue by four for a very long time!

169 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:19:20am

re: #163 steveoh

I certainly hope so! There has to be someone left in government employ with a modicum of common sense.... right?

170 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:19:23am

re: #165 galloping granny

I was last on a plane about 5 years ago for my daughter's wedding. Between airport "security" and being deliberately stranded in Denver by United Airlines for nearly a week, you wouldn't get me on a plane for love nor money, not even if you guaranteed me a first class seat.

Daughter wants to take me to England for a "vacation." I told her I'll go only if she can figure out how to get me there by train.

TWA: Try Walking Across.

171 EC Marm  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:20:27am

re: #136 galloping granny

That actually is my instinct too. That they hassle folks so they can say they are doing something but deliberately don't go anywhere near anyone who might conceivably claim that they were profiled. Kind of profiling in reverse if you know what I mean.


I sat around the screening area of an airport last year for almost three hours. Of the 99% of those selected for additional/close screening most were ordinary folks. Predominately older women with a lot of jewelry. My radar went off once and I said to my wife, "Here you go." We both watched as the individual went through screening, was then extensively wanded, then sent back for additional questioning. Later, he took his time boarding the plane and they had to announce his name over the p.a. system. You can guess what his first name was.
So I'd say the system works, but you really have to watch was is going on for a while. It is all a charade to make it appear as if profiling is not going on.

172 steveoh  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:20:35am

re: #146 JamesTKirk

Again, the camera's are watching. Certain TSA officers are extremely well trained at spotting suspicious passengers, and trust me they don't give a hoot about being politically correct. What we all witness are the pawns.

173 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:21:28am

re: #171 EC Marm

We both watched as the individual went through screening, was then extensively wanded, then sent back for additional questioning. Later, he took his time boarding the plane and they had to announce his name over the p.a. system. You can guess what his first name was.

pwned in public

174 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:21:29am

re: #172 steveoh
I really,really hope you folks are correct.

175 BulgarWheat  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:21:43am

re: #141 JamesTKirk

am and pm

176 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:23:04am

re: #164 laZardo

Because the arrival of the Mahdi would be bad for business at Mecca...

The camera's aren't all that's watching. Couple years ago I flew from Boston to Orlando. There's a pushcart stand across from the JetBlue gate in Boston. Staffed by a blue-eyed American Muslima. In hijab. She just stands there all day watching what goes on...

177 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:23:14am
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) %u2015 In a flash, a police officer draws a handgun from its holster. Less than two seconds later, a red laser and bright light shine at whatever is in the gun barrel's path while a mini-camera records it all.

That's how mini-cams on police handguns would work under a proposal gaining support in New York, which would be the first state in the nation to require the technology. State police were briefed on the technology and are reviewing it for a possible pilot program, said Michael Balboni, the state's deputy secretary for public safety.

The device could create a critical visual and audio record of police shootings for use in court, said state Sen. Eric Adams, a Brooklyn Democrat and former police officer. He is drumming up support for testing the cameras with the state police SWAT squad.

Adams said recordings from the $695 cameras couldn't be altered by a police officer and would quell many questions after controversial police shootings, like the deaths in New York City of Amadou Diallo in 1999 and Sean Bell in 2006.

[Link: wcbstv.com...]

178 steveoh  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:23:52am

re: #169 Grammy Cracker

There are still a few. But if Obama gets in, I wouldn't be suprised if people like my friend were laid off.

179 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:24:12am

I know this was a thread last night, but since I have to sleep and work sometimes, I can just comment on it now. Obama calls Israel an "open sore". If and when I meet one of my fellow co-religionists ( Jews I mean ) who professes an urge to vote for that rat- bastard it will take all my will power not to knock them into next year.

180 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:25:02am

re: #179 Nevergiveup

I know this was a thread last night, but since I have to sleep and work sometimes, I can just comment on it now. Obama calls Israel an "open sore". If and when I meet one of my fellow co-religionists ( Jews I mean ) who professes an urge to vote for that rat- bastard it will take all my will power not to knock them into next year.

If you knock them into next year, they won't be able to vote for him in November...

/just sayin'

181 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:25:14am

re: #179 Nevergiveup
I don't think that thread is dead yet!

182 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:25:39am
Saudi FM: Nasrallah like Ariel Sharon


'Hizbullah leader, former Israel PM both invaded Beirut,' Prince Saud Al-Faisal tells Arab League conference, adding 'Iran is managing this war and Hizbullah is looking to impose Islamic rule on all of Lebanon'


[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

183 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:25:58am

re: #180 JamesTKirk

If you knock them into next year, they won't be able to vote for him in November...

/just sayin'

The wording was very deliberate.

184 EC Marm  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:26:23am

re: #173 laZardo

pwned in public


I actually think that he wanted his name to be announced. I nonchalantly watched him for about a half an hour after he went through screening as his plane was across from ours. They announced boarding rows x -x, he sat. Then rows x-x, he still sat. This continued. Finally every row had been called and the line to board was gone. At that point they announced his name. He seemed pleased. He took his time.
Flight was to La Guardia.

185 The Albatross  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:26:46am
186 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:27:07am

Morning

187 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:27:20am

re: #176 infidelia

Why am I suddenly reminded of this famous gaze?

188 steveoh  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:27:24am

re: #174 pingjockey

It's a blood relative I'm talking about. A terrorist police officer from Israel who hunted the bad guys day and night. His knowledge of Arabic, fair hair and eyes made him the perfect terrorist hunter. He is a straight talker and would tell me if it were different.

Mind you, he's only in one airport. So.....?

189 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:27:33am

re: #179 Nevergiveup

I know this was a thread last night, but since I have to sleep and work sometimes, I can just comment on it now. Obama calls Israel an "open sore". If and when I meet one of my fellow co-religionists ( Jews I mean ) who professes an urge to vote for that rat- bastard it will take all my will power not to knock them into next year.

Apologists are trying to claim he just called the Israel-Pali conflict and "open sore". I think it's a big mistake to give Obama the benefit of the doubt on anything. He connected Israel with the words "open sore" in his comments. I don't think that was a slip, I think it was a subliminal.

190 ackomanyuki  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:27:39am

re: #136 galloping granny

That actually is my instinct too. That they hassle folks so they can say they are doing something but deliberately don't go anywhere near anyone who might conceivably claim that they were profiled. Kind of profiling in reverse if you know what I mean.

That is true, and I am one of their control profilees that is nearly always pulled out to cover their PC asses. The last three times I have flown international I have been pulled out for the once over at boarding gates at JFK international. It usually goes like this, I fly coach and once business on these flights so I am back in the boarding order. Some one of middle eastern appearance is pulled ahead of me and asked for papers, while one agent is checking them out, one of the others of the group looks up the line and their eyes stop at me (military cropped blue eyed, grey haired, athletic appearing, middle aged, apple pie, white, boy next door. I then get pulled for the same treatment as Haji to balance things against any complaints they may receive. Now, this was a few years ago when they were somewhat on mission, and hadn't been slapped into submission by whining CAIR types and Jihadists operatives softening up the system.

191 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:27:53am

re: #180 JamesTKirk

Just to December will be fine...

192 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:28:07am

re: #179 Nevergiveup
Why do your co-religionists continue to vote for a party that would gladly sell Israel for a few ulu-ulus?

193 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:28:23am
A Jordanian judicial official says the country's state prosecutor has charged a man with premeditated murder who is suspected of drowning his 22-year-old sister for having an extramarital affair.
The official says the unidentified woman's brother beat her with the help of his family Saturday and then took her to the Dead Sea, where he drowned her.
The official says the state prosecutor also charged the woman's parents and another brother Monday with assisting in the murder by knowing about it and for beating the woman before she died. He says they carried out their suspected actions after seeing an unidentified man leaving the slain woman's house.

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

194 antishock8  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:28:42am

In the days
When we were swinging from the trees
I was a monkey
Stealing honey from the swarm of bees

I could taste...
I could taste you even then
And I would chase you down the wind

You can go there if you please
Wild honey
And if you go there, go with me
Wild honey

Did I know you...
Did I know you even then?
Before the clocks kept time
Before the world was made

From the cruel sun
You were shelter...
You were my shelter and my shade

If you go there with me
Wild honey
You can do just what you please
Wild honey
Yeah, just blowing in the breeze
Wild honey

Wild... wild... wild...

Im still standing...
I'm still standing where you left me
Are you still growing wild
With everything tame around you?

I send you flowers
Good flowers for your heart
I know your garden is full
But is there sweetness at all?

(What is soul?)
(Love me, give me soul)

If you go there, go with me
Wild honey
Wont you take me, take me please
Wild honey
Yeah, swinging through the trees
Wild honey

-U2

195 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:28:42am

re: #188 steveoh
Cool. Tell him good hunting!

196 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:30:12am

Later folks, time to make the lunches for my yard monkeys!

197 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:31:34am

re: #189 infidelia

Apologists are trying to claim he just called the Israel-Pali conflict and "open sore". I think it's a big mistake to give Obama the benefit of the doubt on anything. He connected Israel with the words "open sore" in his comments. I don't think that was a slip, I think it was a subliminal.

We know it is not a slip. His foreign policy advisers all are anti-Israel and wish the "open sore" just would go away. Oh I am sure they will all mourn the lose of life when Israel is wiped off the map.

198 The Albatross  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:33:28am

Japanese Comedic Kung Fu

Ack I'm caught in a stream of consciousness.

199 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:34:21am

re: #197 Nevergiveup

We know it is not a slip. His foreign policy advisers all are anti-Israel and wish the "open sore" just would go away. Oh I am sure they will all mourn the lose of life when Israel is wiped off the map. the Zionist regime occupying Jerusalem is removed from the pages of time.

/Juan Cole

200 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:34:46am

re: #192 pingjockey

Why do your co-religionists continue to vote for a party that would gladly sell Israel for a few ulu-ulus?

I have no idea and I have run out of patience with any who would vote for Obama specifically. As a matter of fact I got so fed up with not only my fellow Jews but the general population around me in general, I joined the Navy.

201 rightside  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:38:14am

Morning again Lizards.

/tired

202 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:39:47am

re: #198 The Albatross

Now THIS is what I call a car swarm!

203 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:39:49am

re: #200 Nevergiveup

I have no idea and I have run out of patience with any who would vote for Obama specifically. As a matter of fact I got so fed up with not only my fellow Jews but the general population around me in general, I joined the Navy.

This thing really does have the feeling of failed brakes on a mountain road. There doesn't seem to be a way to get people to listen to reason. Just the creeping assumption that our next president is going to be Barack Hussein Obamasama.

204 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:42:30am

re: #202 laZardo

Now THIS is what I call a car swarm!

The Chinese have a true gift for this sort of thing, LOL!

205 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:43:04am

re: #203 infidelia

This thing really does have the feeling of failed brakes on a mountain road. There doesn't seem to be a way to get people to listen to reason. Just the creeping assumption that our next president is going to be Barack Hussein Obamasama.

Intellectually I still don't see any way he can conceivably win, but I do agree deep down in the pit of my stomach, I do get that stabbing pain very now and then.

206 steveoh  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:44:33am

re: #203 infidelia

I agree and I'm feeling really nauseas right now.

207 Irish Rose  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:44:52am

re: #166 Grammy Cracker

Morning, Irish Rose! How's the new job working out? All good, I hope...

Pretty good, yes... I'd like it if they could give me more hours and/or better pay, of course, but beggers can't be choosers :).

Fortunately, I like what I'm doing.

208 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:45:30am

re: #205 Nevergiveup

Intellectually I still don't see any way he can conceivably win...

Except that this isn't being settled intellectually.

209 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:45:57am

re: #205 Nevergiveup

Intellectually I still don't see any way he can conceivably win, but I do agree deep down in the pit of my stomach, I do get that stabbing pain very now and then.

Jay Severin, one of our local conservative talk show hosts, keeps using the SuperBowl analogy: The Giants COULDN'T beat the Pats.

But...

210 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:46:14am

re: #208 JamesTKirk

Except that this isn't being settled intellectually.

Apparently!

211 Solomon2  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:46:58am
212 Lively  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:47:09am

re: #202 laZardo

Now THIS is what I call a car swarm!


lol, I'm forwarding that one.

213 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:47:11am
Iran to Sue US, Britain Over Mosque Blast
Iran's judiciary said it would file international lawsuits against the United States and Britain, accusing them of providing financial support to those behind a blast in a mosque that killed 14 people.

[Link: www.newmediajournal.us...]

214 stead63  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:48:04am

re: #14 infidelia

That's ok my Dallas Stars cant seem to win either...

215 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:48:23am

re: #213 storagemanager

How odd that they're not including Israel in that suit. Isn't it always the fault of the j00z?

216 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:49:25am

re: #208 JamesTKirk

Except that this isn't being settled intellectually.

That's the thing. It's all emotional. People are choosing not to see the links to Farrakhan and the NOI, not to hear Wright or Michelle, not to look at the Ayers. It makes them feeeeeeeel too good to nurse their Chosen One fantasy.

217 1SG(ret)  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:51:03am

re: #203 infidelia

I'm afraid you are so correct. I talk to military personnel every day, and the tide even with them is turning to the DEMS. Can't understand why this is happening, but I'm beginning to think it's that they are getting tired of being used a pawns in the political arena. Our future seems be be more in doubt on a daily basis. McCain and the general Republican miscues seem to be more at fault, than their wanting the Dems in office. If the repubs don't get their act in order soon (which I'm not holding my breath waiting for) we are looking at some real challenging years ahead.
Top

218 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:51:04am

re: #214 stead63

That's ok my Dallas Stars cant seem to win either...

Heh!

/go Wings!

219 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:52:55am

re: #215 JamesTKirk

They grieve to the UN when it comes to Israel.

220 stead63  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:53:07am

re: #218 Grammy Cracker

Thats not very nice but I have to give it to them...they are absolutely killing us. But they are the best team I've seen in a while. I'll just revel in the fact that we made it through 2 rounds we were supposed to get swept!

221 Mike in Georgia  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:53:25am

re: #213 storagemanager

"with international authorities "

What "international authorities" might those be that have
jurisdiction over the US?

222 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:53:28am

Global warming alert.

All this global warming is causing a lot of terrible weather around here. It's May 13th and here's what we got...

[Link: www.cotrip.org...]

... right here in Golden, 14 miles west of Denver.

Walter in Golden, Co.

223 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:53:35am

Lunches made. Time for one more cup of coffee and talk with you all and then I have to wake them up! Haven't got the dog trained yet to do it. Mom had our border collie trained to come and jump on the bed and give us doggie kisses until we woke up!

224 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:54:12am

re: #216 infidelia

That's the thing. It's all emotional. People are choosing not to see the links to Farrakhan and the NOI, not to hear Wright or Michelle, not to look at the Ayers. It makes them feeeeeeeel too good to nurse their Chosen One fantasy.

It's all about feelings.

Plus, as of yesterday, people are still pushing the "something he said once, seven years ago, taken out of context" line about Wright.

225 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:54:56am

re: #217 1SG(ret)

I'm afraid you are so correct. I talk to military personnel every day, and the tide even with them is turning to the DEMS. Can't understand why this is happening, but I'm beginning to think it's that they are getting tired of being used a pawns in the political arena. Our future seems be be more in doubt on a daily basis. McCain and the general Republican miscues seem to be more at fault, than their wanting the Dems in office. If the repubs don't get their act in order soon (which I'm not holding my breath waiting for) we are looking at some real challenging years ahead.
Top

Since McCain is the nominee, it's already too late for the GOP to get its act together.

226 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:55:12am
Several Students Suspended After ‘Rape Dance’ Video Posted to YouTube
Warning: Graphic Content -- The clip labeled, "Mitchell High School Memphis ... Rape Dat Ho," shows young men and women engaging in what one parent described as "sex with clothes on."

[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

227 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:55:55am

Is anyone else familiar with this group?

I've been receiving their e-mail updates, and they seem pretty good. I signed the petition to President Bush on the homepage. I doubt it will make any difference, but one has to try....

"Perpetrators, collaborators, bystanders, victims: we can be clear about three of these categories. The bystander, however, is the fulcrum. If there are enough notable exceptions, then protest reaches a critical mass. We don’t usually think of history as being shaped by silence, but, as English philosopher Edmund Burke said, ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ "

228 The Albatross  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:56:28am

Okay... parting shot and I got to get this day going...
Yatta

My personal favorite combination humor and men in fig leaf underpants. Have a great day lizards!

G R Double-E N Leaves
G R Double-E N Leaves
It's so easy! Happy-go-lucky!
We are the world! We did it!
Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! (Unh!)

All right! All right!
We're doin' great in college!
All right! All right!
Made president at our jobs!
Long as we've one leaf on, we're doin' fine! Hey, we're lucky just 'cause we're alive!

All right! All right!
We've been confirmed for the prize!
All right! All right!
We're representing Japan!
We're so healthy, it just makes ya sick!
Everybody say "All right!"

Japan's got crises (but)
Tomorrow's wonderful
Even if somebody's mean to us, we just go to bed and
Snore! Snore! Snore! Snore! Pass! Pass! Pass! Pass! (Good morniiiiing!)

All right! All right!
We got nine hours of sleep!
All right! All right!
Woke up and jumped outta bed
What kinda great things might await us now? Hey, we're lucky just 'cause we're alive!

All right! All right!
If there's a change in you
All right! All right!
Then the whole world will change too.
Getting through it unhurt's the best of all. Just stand up straight because it feels greeeaat!

I drink water that's tasty! (All right!)
I get in the sun and feel toasty! (All right!)
Havin' a belly laugh's fun! (All right! All right!)
Try keeping dogs--they're cute! (All right!)

As we brushed past each other, you favored me with a smile.
It's okay if we never meet again. I'm lucky you were here just for a while!

We've got recession these days...in goverment we've no faith.
Could we hit "reset," that'd be number one! And since we're all here, it's just so much fun!

All right! All right!
In university class
All right! All right!
We've got a movie star!
Long as we've one leaf on, we're doin' fine! We're all together, it's a happy time!

All right! All right!
Long as we still can breathe in...
All right! All right!
Long as we still can breathe out...
We're so healthy, it just makes ya sick!
Everybody say "All right!"

Bye Q

229 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:57:07am

re: #225 JamesTKirk

Since McCain is the nominee, it's already too late for the GOP to get its act together.

Well now I can face my day depressed as hell!

230 1SG(ret)  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:58:00am

re: #225 JamesTKirk

Can't challenge your assessment. I still can't figure out how he is our nominee.
Top

231 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:58:22am

re: #220 stead63

Thats not very nice but I have to give it to them...they are absolutely killing us. But they are the best team I've seen in a while. I'll just revel in the fact that we made it through 2 rounds we were supposed to get swept!

Yeah, I shouldn't rub it in.... I think you're guys are still exhausted from the first series... Crikey, four overtimes?

232 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:58:44am

re: #222 Walter L. Newton

Global warming alert.

All this global warming is causing a lot of terrible weather around here. It's May 13th and here's what we got...

[Link: www.cotrip.org...]

... right here in Golden, 14 miles west of Denver.

Walter in Golden, Co.


My sincerest condolences. Just don't send it East.

233 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:58:46am
234 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:59:36am
Even though she was tortured within inches of her life, she risked it anyway and saved at least 2,500 Jewish children from deaths at the hands of the Nazis. She was 98 years old.

Irena Sendler, a righteous Gentile and Polish woman, has a special place in heaven:

WARSAW, Poland: Irena Sendler credited with saving some 2,500 Jewish children from the Nazi Holocaust by smuggling them out of the Warsaw Ghetto, some of them in baskets died Monday, her family

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

235 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:59:38am

re: #228 The Albatross

Sayonara and see you later!

236 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 5:59:39am

re: #230 1SG(ret)
I have no idea? Huchabee not well known enough? Romney too Mormon? I have no damn idea.

237 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:00:05am

re: #233 JamesTKirk

What were they serving at that dance?

sex

238 Ojoe  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:00:15am

Good morning all —

Here is Saint Patrick's morning prayer, often called "St. Partick's breastplate"

Saint Patrick’s Breastplate:

I arise today
Through a mighty strength, the invocation of the Trinity,
Through the belief in the threeness,
Through confession of the oneness
Of the Creator of Creation.

I arise today
Through the strength of Christ's birth with his baptism,
Through the strength of his crucifixion with his burial,
Through the strength of his resurrection with his ascension,
Through the strength of his descent for the judgment of Doom.

I arise today
Through the strength of the love of Cherubim,
In obedience of angels,
In the service of archangels,
In hope of resurrection to meet with reward,
In prayers of patriarchs,
In predictions of prophets,
In preaching of apostles,
In faith of confessors,
In innocence of holy virgins,
In deeds of righteous men.

I arise today
Through the strength of heaven:
Light of sun,
Radiance of moon,
Splendor of fire,
Speed of lightning,
Swiftness of wind,
Depth of sea,
Stability of earth,
Firmness of rock.

I arise today
Through God's strength to pilot me:
God's might to uphold me,
God's wisdom to guide me,
God's eye to look before me,
God's ear to hear me,
God's word to speak for me,
God's hand to guard me,
God's way to lie before me,
God's shield to protect me,
God's host to save me
From snares of devils,
From temptations of vices,
From everyone who shall wish me ill,
Afar and anear,
Alone and in multitude.

I summon today all these powers between me and those evils,
Against every cruel merciless power that may oppose my body and soul,
Against incantations of false prophets,
Against black laws of pagandom
Against false laws of heretics,
Against craft of idolatry,
Against spells of witches and smiths and wizards,
Against every knowledge that corrupts man's body and soul.
Christ to shield me today
Against poison, against burning,
Against drowning, against wounding,
So that there may come to me abundance of reward.

Christ with me, Christ before me, Christ behind me,
Christ in me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me,
Christ on my right, Christ on my left,
Christ when I lie down, Christ when I sit down, Christ when I arise,
Christ in the heart of every man who thinks of me,
Christ in the mouth of everyone who speaks of me,
Christ in every eye that sees me,
Christ in every ear that hears me.

I arise today
Through a mighty strength, the invocation of the Trinity,
Through belief in the threeness,
Through confession of the oneness,
Of the Creator of Creation.

239 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:00:19am

re: #230 1SG(ret)

Can't challenge your assessment. I still can't figure out how he is our nominee.
Top

I dunno, Top; but whoever wins in November, I'll be feeling more like a bottom.

240 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:00:46am

re: #223 pingjockey

Lunches made. Time for one more cup of coffee and talk with you all and then I have to wake them up! Haven't got the dog trained yet to do it. Mom had our border collie trained to come and jump on the bed and give us doggie kisses until we woke up!

The average border collie would make a better presidential candidate than what's running.

241 Cap'n DOC  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:01:14am

re: #105 pingjockey

He's still alive? I thought they propped him up and stuffed a butt in his mouth for the concerts.

242 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:01:25am

Later Lizards! I owe, I owe, it's off to work I go.

243 Macker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:01:32am

re: #218 Grammy Cracker

LET'S GO RED WINGS!

244 pingjockey  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:01:58am

re: #240 infidelia
Probably smarter fer shore!

245 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:02:05am

re: #236 pingjockey

I have no idea? Huchabee not well known enough? Romney too Mormon? I have no damn idea.

Operation Chaos as run by Dummocrats. They just aren't honest enough to admit it.

246 Miss Trixie  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:02:14am

re: #222 Walter L. Newton

Global warming alert.

All this global warming is causing a lot of terrible weather around here. It's May 13th and here's what we got...

[Link: www.cotrip.org...]

... right here in Golden, 14 miles west of Denver.

Walter in Golden, Co.

Ack. I feel your pain. Growing up close to The Rocks (Calgary, Alberta) we often got our fair share of snow in the spring.

Yeesh.

247 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:02:20am
BAGHDAD -- Despite a declared ceasefire, Shiite gunmen loyal to radical cleric Moqtada Sadr and Iranian influenced "special groups" are continuing to attack U.S. and Iraqi Security Forces in Baghdads Sadr City.

[Link: www.metimes.com...]

248 freetoken  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:02:52am

re: #217 1SG(ret)

Could be the coalition that supported the Republicans the past 30 years is just breaking down... this has been commented on ad naseum in some circles. Dems are having a similar problem - truth is all those old white women voting for Hillary are just not Obama's crowd, and maybe never will be.

That is why some pundits have commented that if McCain is elected he could be the last Republican President for quite a while. Remember that from FDR's win in 1932 until Nixon in 1968 (that is 36 years) the only pause from a Democrat President was Eisenhower, one of the most famous and beloved US generals of all time.

Thus, the Democrats may be able to continue along a while longer with a policy theme loosely built around socialism, while the Republican triad (the social, fiscal, hawk conservatives) may not hold together.

Then there are people like more - more libertarian independents, who have often voted for the Republican candidate only because the Democrat opposition was a worse choice. Not being a party faithful, the Republicans can't count on me voting for them up and down the ticket - they have to offer up people whom I actually believe are right for the job.

I doubt I would vote for Obama - he just isn't qualified (outside of the technical constitutional sense.) It is possible I could vote for McCain, but it wouldn't be because he is a Republican.

249 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:02:56am

re: #234 storagemanager

President Lech Kaczynski expressed "great regret" over Sendler's death, calling her "extremely brave" and "an exceptional person." In recent years, Kaczynski had spearheaded a campaign to put Sendler's name forward as a candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize.

And guess who won that honor instead of her...

250 Ojoe  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:03:18am

re: #200 Nevergiveup

There is the feeling of a small remnant in the air if you ask me.

251 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:04:08am

re: #238 Ojoe

Thank you! That is beautiful...

252 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:05:18am

re: #243 Macker

LET'S GO RED WINGS!

:-)

253 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:05:27am

re: #239 JamesTKirk

I dunno, Top; but whoever wins in November, I'll be feeling more like a bottom.

Sounds like McCain is thinking of running with Huckabee. I knew I should have saved up to buy that cabin in Maine.

254 Ojoe  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:06:04am

re: #251 Grammy Cracker

Thank Saint Patrick

I try and read it every morning but sometimes I do not.

You would find more about it in Thomas Cahil's book, "How the Irish Saved Civilization."

255 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:08:10am

Tehran - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Tuesday that Israel would "be soon swept away" from the Palestinian Territories by the Palestinians. It is the second time within less than three years that the Iranian president predicted the eradication of the Jewish state.

The first time was in 2005 when Ahmadinejad hoped that Israel would be eradicated from the Middle East map.

"This terrorist and criminal state is backed by foreign powers, but this regime would soon be swept away by the Palestinians," Ahmadinejad said in a press conference in Tehran.

Referring to worldwide celebrations for the 60th anniversary of Israel's foundation, he said that "it would be futile to hold a birthday ceremony for something which is already dead."

"As far as the regional countries are concerned, this regime does not exist," Ahmadinejad added.

[Link: www.earthtimes.org...]

256 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:08:14am

re: #244 pingjockey

Probably smarter fer shore!

I nominate Magnum Force of Montague, my 12-year-old Chocolate Lab. He is the wisest old soul, and has a very highly developed sleeze alarm...

257 Ojoe  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:08:21am
258 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:09:13am

re: #255 storagemanager

"As far as the regional countries are concerned, this regime does not exist," Ahmadinejad added.

Then who are they shooting missiles at?

259 lawhawk  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:09:25am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. MSNBC is running a story claiming that Obama supporters canvassing for him in the Indiana received serious anti-black sentiments in places like Muncie (I'll never vote for a black guy), which runs counter to the supposedly large adoring crowds seen at Obama events.

Gee, you really think that Obama people would not try to pack their events with adoring people, while those out on the street canvassing for votes will run into sentiments that suggest Obama has issues, whether it's race (his), racism (Rev. Wright), links to terrorists (say hello Bill Ayers), appeasers (Jimmy Carter, staffers, etc.) and Obama's own words and deeds (hey, would that mean accomplishments? ed: nope - unless accomplishments means frittering away any goodwill he might have to say nothing of removing that thin veneer claiming that he's a different kind of politician).

Meanwhile, the death tolls from the Burma cyclone and the Chengdu quake continue climbing, and it's interesting to compare and contrast the emergency response between the two countries.

260 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:10:52am

re: #254 Ojoe

Thank Saint Patrick

I try and read it every morning but sometimes I do not.

You would find more about it in Thomas Cahil's book, "How the Irish Saved Civilization."

It's probably something I missed by not being raised Catholic... but I am Irish, so I'll have to check out the book.

261 1SG(ret)  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:11:16am

re: #253 infidelia

And for some reason that doesn't make me feel any better about the Repub ticket! Not being my style, sitting this one out is starting to look better every day. Don't think I can do that though. Those that don't vote, have little reason to complain either way. IMHO
Top

262 Dolphin  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:11:24am

re: #247 storagemanager

[Link: www.metimes.com...]

Could someone please tell me why we did not take Moqtada Sadr out when we had the chance? I still don't get it. Is he still hiding out in Iran?

263 Ojoe  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:11:37am

re: #260 Grammy Cracker

It is a really good book.

264 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:11:50am

re: #259 lawhawk

...Obama supporters canvassing for him in the Indiana received serious anti-black sentiments in places like Muncie (I'll never vote for a black guy)...

Even if a lot of people felt that way, I have a hard time believing that many of them would say so outright. I think they're just interpreting any anti-Obama sentiments as being racially based.

265 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:12:14am

re: #260 Grammy Cracker

It's probably something I missed by not being raised Catholic... but I am Irish, so I'll have to check out the book.

You're Irish, but not Catholic? How does that work, exactly?

266 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:13:02am

re: #261 1SG(ret)

Those that don't vote, have little reason to complain either way.

I plan to complain that I wasn't given a valid choice to vote for.

267 Ojoe  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:13:55am

re: #266 JamesTKirk

I might vote for myself & then for 4 years I can say that I would certainly do things differently.

268 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:14:40am
Taliban insurgents have ordered residents of a province near the capital Kabul to stop watching television, saying the networks were showing un-Islamic programs, officials and local media said on Tuesday.

The order is the last in a wave of curbs that the resurgent militants have announced in areas they are active.

A senior Afghan information ministry official, Najib Manelai, said that dozens of masked men with weapons entered mosques in Logar province at the weekend and threatened residents against watching television.


Media reports quoted residents as saying that the Taliban imposed the ban because TV networks were showing programs that were "un-Islamic and anti-Afghan culture".

[Link: www.alarabiya.net...]

269 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:15:20am

re: #265 JamesTKirk

You're Irish, but not Catholic? How does that work, exactly?

There's a wee bit o' the Scot, and a healthy dose of Swede thrown in. I'm your basic white Anglo-Saxon mutt.

270 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:15:29am

Good morning Y'all - from a coolish (52 degrees going up to 76 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

271 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:15:34am

re: #267 Ojoe

I might vote for myself & then for 4 years I can say that I would certainly do things differently.

I've already said that I'm most likely to write in myself. But do I write in my real name, or my screen name? Hmmm...

My vote doesn't matter in any event. I don't live in a swing state, so I already know which party is going to get my electoral votes.

272 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:17:46am

re: #259 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. MSNBC is running a story claiming that Obama supporters canvassing for him in the Indiana received serious anti-black sentiments in places like Muncie (I'll never vote for a black guy), which runs counter to the supposedly large adoring crowds seen at Obama events.

They're quoting a WaPo story. I read it. It's hilarious. All assertion, no evidence.

You should see their Business section today. They've got a piece on how sharia financed mortgages in the area somehow escaped the meltdown. Wanna guess the headline?

"A Higher Law for Lending"

/get your own link - the thing makes me sick

273 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:17:50am

Mornin', Real! It's rather froggy here in Michigan right now, but it's supposed to burn off and hit 70 today. WooHoo! I'm postponing my errands 'til then....

274 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:20:14am

re: #261 1SG(ret) Hey Top! How are you this fine morning? And I think you're right: I think McCain is barely to the right of either the Obamination or Hitlery, but he's certainly not someone I would call a conservative, nor for that matter, a Republican. But he will do less damage to the US - and especially to the US Military - than will either of the other two.
So I'm gonna hold my nose and pull the lever for him as well - regardless of who wins the Dem nomination.
BTW - sorry we weren't around yesterday - our "errand" took a LOT longer than I anticipated it would.

275 yochanan  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:20:56am

re: #59 BBev

Man I am so glad I got out there.

we got gulls here in chicago is that inland enough?

276 Miss Trixie  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:21:22am

re: #270 realwest

Good morning Y'all - from a coolish (52 degrees going up to 76 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

{realwest} Top O' the marnin' to ye *smoooooooochies* We've a loverly day and I'm just fine, thanks for asking. How's about your very ownself?

277 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:21:35am

re: #273 Grammy Cracker

Mornin', Real! It's rather froggy here in Michigan right now, but it's supposed to burn off and hit 70 today. WooHoo! I'm postponing my errands 'til then....

I'm going to go sit on the beach this afternoon if I have to wear a ski jacket to do it. THEN I go see Iron Man. Meanwhile the laundry calleth... BBFN

278 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:21:39am

re: #272 wahabicorridor
Hey there! Good morning wahabi! How the heck are you this fine morning?

279 Ojoe  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:21:56am

re: #275 yochanan

Mono Lake California has a huge population of gulls and it is quite far inland too.

280 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:22:16am

re: #275 yochanan

we got gulls here in chicago is that inland enough?

You're on a Lake. I want to see them in Kansas.

281 Miss Trixie  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:22:39am

{wahabbi} Morning, toots! :D What snoo?

282 infidelia  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:23:16am

re: #280 infidelia

You're on a Lake. I want to see them in Kansas.

Actually, if they opened a Kelley's in Omaha, even money says they'd get gulls.

Au reservoir for now...

283 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:23:19am

re: #273 Grammy Cracker Good morning Grammy! That sounds like a very fine idea - stay home until the weather becomes more reasonable!

284 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:23:22am

re: #277 infidelia

I'm going to go sit on the beach this afternoon if I have to wear a ski jacket to do it. THEN I go see Iron Man. Meanwhile the laundry calleth... BBFN

Ya know, I think I hear laundry calling, too...but I'm ignoring it. LOL

Have a great day!

285 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:24:28am

From the "Yes, the UK is still lost department".

From "The Art of Behavioral Change" from the Socail Market Think Tank.

"Government needs to adapt its learned behaviours if it is to be an active actor in helping individuals make the necessary changes. It needs to rely less heavily on the idea of the citizen as rational economic actor and absorb the lessons that behavioural economics has to offer."
[ ]
"A number of significant developments have occurred in recent times to make government interventions that influence individual behaviours more palatable...We repeatedly voted in a government with an agenda that seeks to inform us about what is good for us and has adopted policies which seek to change the way we behave – parenting classes being a prominent example."

286 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:24:30am

re: #280 infidelia

You're on a Lake. I want to see them in Kansas.


Came from Indiana to Nebraska......saw sea gulls.....called them "sea gulls"......got laughed at....."do you see a 'sea' around here?"

287 Widow'smight  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:24:56am

re: #261 1SG(ret)

My biggest beef with Republican leadership, especially McLame is....

In 1985, we produced 9 million barrels of Oil in the US. Our consumption has gone up 30 %, and we now only produce 5 Million. President Bush proposed more Domestic Production of Oil 6 years ago and McLame lead the charge to shoot it down.

The thing is, McLame could flat out Hammer Oblama by pushing more domestic production/extraction of oil and the benefits it would bring to regular folks.

Also, there is enough Natural Gas in the Gulf to power every home in the US for 150 years.

It's like the Republicans have decided to play all their football games with the Democrats on the Democrats field.

Drill for F****n Oil, improve our economy, take money away from the Iranians, russians and SaudFleas, and give this country leverage in dealing with them.

288 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:24:56am

I have steak and eggs...I am happy.

289 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:24:56am

re: #265 JamesTKirk Morning Captain! Uh, you've never heard of Protestant Irish folk?! Orangemen? The Republic of Northern Ireland?
There are a lot of protestant Irish folk!

290 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:25:01am

re: #283 realwest

Good morning Grammy! That sounds like a very fine idea - stay home until the weather becomes more reasonable!

It's all the excuse I need this morning! Just brewed a fresh cuppa joe, and I can hang out here with y'all for a bit longer. Yea!

291 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:25:34am

Morning, everyone. I'll be in and out today, hopefully more in than out. :D

The interesting news of today: claims that archeologists have found the palace of the Queen of Sheba. However, they are claiming that that is also the final resting place of the Ark of the Covenant. Silly humans.

292 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:25:55am

re: #286 eschew_obfuscation

Came from Indiana to Nebraska......saw sea gulls.....called them "sea gulls"......got laughed at....."do you see a 'sea' around here?"

Jonathan, is that you?

293 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:26:11am

re: #278 realwest

Hey there! Good morning wahabi! How the heck are you this fine morning?

Yo real! The sun is out today. I was beginning to think we would never see it again. Still only in the 40's when I got up.

294 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:26:18am

re: #289 realwest

There are a lot of protestant Irish folk!

I grew up in New England.

295 Alouette  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:26:31am

re: #275 yochanan

we got gulls here in chicago is that inland enough?

Gulls? Do you mean flying white cockroaches?

296 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:26:33am

Good Tuesday morning Lizards... only 2 more days and then I am off to WI for my gf sister's college graduation... Mercifully, not graduating from UW Madison...

297 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:26:38am

re: #292 Grammy Cracker

Jonathan, is that you?

Heh. Funny, dear.

298 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:26:56am

re: #291 vxbush

Morning, everyone. I'll be in and out today, hopefully more in than out. :D

The interesting news of today: claims that archeologists have found the palace of the Queen of Sheba. However, they are claiming that that is also the final resting place of the Ark of the Covenant. Silly humans.

The Ark of the Covenant is in a warehouse in DC, waiting for "top men" to study it.

299 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:27:15am

re: #276 Miss Trixie
{Miss Trixie} Good morning and a *smooch* back to you, gorgeous! We're doing just fine down here
as well!

300 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:27:54am

re: #281 Miss Trixie

{wahabbi} Morning, toots! :D What snoo?


Well, howdy! Long time no talk to! Remember I sent you an email awhile back talking about the Amish Friendship bread I had started making?

Well, I stopped. The amount of flour and sugar the stuff uses was costing big bucks.

(Wish I knew how to make a starter tho, so that I could try my own recipe)

301 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:28:02am

Heh.

Who's a big shot now, Abu Hook Hand?

302 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:28:44am

re: #259 lawhawk

Hey lawhawk...

It doesn't surprise me... Aside from not voting for him because of his Marxist views, I also think he's a black supremacist (thanks to Rev, Wright) and would never EVER consider voting for him...

303 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:28:46am

re: #298 JamesTKirk

The Ark of the Covenant is in a warehouse in DC, waiting for "top men" to study it.

You've got the city right, but actually it's here in my office. I use it as a coffee table.

304 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:28:53am

re: #298 JamesTKirk

The Ark of the Covenant is in a warehouse in DC, waiting for "top men" to study it.


Don't be silly.....everybody knows that the Masons have it tucked away in Roselyn Chapel!

305 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:29:08am

re: #294 JamesTKirk

I grew up in New England.

There are a lot of Protestant Irish in New England too. Just not in Boston.

306 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:29:37am

re: #294 JamesTKirk
Ah!
nevermind!

307 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:29:50am

re: #298 JamesTKirk

The Ark of the Covenant is in a warehouse in DC, waiting for "top men" to study it.

Right next to the bodies of the aliens who crashed at Roswell, and the movie set where *they* faked the moon landing...

/cue creepy Night Gallery music... adjusting tin-foil hat

308 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:29:53am

re: #300 wahabicorridor

Well, howdy! Long time no talk to! Remember I sent you an email awhile back talking about the Amish Friendship bread I had started making?

Well, I stopped. The amount of flour and sugar the stuff uses was costing big bucks.

(Wish I knew how to make a starter tho, so that I could try my own recipe)

Do you want the Amish Friendship Bread starter or just regular sourdough starter?

309 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:30:24am

re: #287 Widow'smight

The thing is, McLame could flat out Hammer Oblama by pushing more domestic production/extraction of oil and the benefits it would bring to regular folks.

Also, there is enough Natural Gas in the Gulf to power every home in the US for 150 years.

Try getting that past the eco-lobby. Though wind turbines do look quite spectacular when placed properly...

310 1SG(ret)  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:30:26am

re: #274 realwest
No problem my friend. Hope all is OK! Will try again later this morning if that works for you?
As I will when it comes to McCain, but I'm not convinced the military will be that much better off under his leadership (has something to do with fighting with hands tied thing), just call me cynical and I really can't see much good coming out of this election.
Top

311 ubernerd  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:30:36am

Washington Post Forgets The Definition of Racisim

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]


Pollsters have found it difficult to accurately measure racial attitudes, as some voters are unwilling to acknowledge the role that race plays in their thinking. But some are not. Susan Dzimian, a Clinton supporter who owns residential properties, said outside a polling location in Kokomo that race was a factor in how she viewed Obama. "I think if it was somebody other than him, I'd accept it," she said of a black candidate. "If Colin Powell had run, I would be willing to accept him."

So let me get this straight...Dzimian doesn't like Obama, but would "accept" Colin Powell, so she harbors racist feelings. But isn't Colin Powell "black?" Actually, Colin Powell's parents are both immigrants from Jamaica and Barack Obama's father is Kenyan and his mother is "white."

Doesn't that make Colin Powell MORE black than Obama?

You would think, but not so...apparently, if you are a conservative or a republican, you are automatically white.

At least, that's the way the Washington Post views racisim.

312 hayseed  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:30:51am

re: #288 storagemanager

I have steak and eggs...I am happy.

you need to share that steak with those that don't!
//

313 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:31:15am

re: #307 Grammy Cracker

And the remains of the control panel where Jooooliani detonated the World Trade Center towers...

/tin-foil hat a bit crinkled

314 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:31:22am

re: #287 Widow'smight

I have to agree... I think right now everyone is complaining about gas prices... If the American people realized how much oil we could be producing domestically, as well as gas, I think they would be surprised and say 'Why the hell aren't we doing that...'

315 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:31:57am

re: #298 JamesTKirk

The Ark of the Covenant is in a warehouse in DC, waiting for "top men" to study it.

'Top....Men'

Love Indy...

316 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:32:48am
317 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:33:41am

re: #310 1SG(ret)

No problem my friend. Hope all is OK! Will try again later this morning if that works for you?
As I will when it comes to McCain, but I'm not convinced the military will be that much better off under his leadership (has something to do with fighting with hands tied thing), just call me cynical and I really can't see much good coming out of this election.
Top

Sadly I think we will never see a day where our military wil be 'allowed' to fight without having their hands tied... It's the cost of the PC society and a lawyered-up society...

318 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:33:43am

Good morning all. Drizzling here in North Texas. Rainy day ahead.

319 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:34:09am

re: #294 JamesTKirk

I grew up in New England.

You did?!?

When did you get out?

320 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:34:14am

re: #293 wahabicorridor
Yeah, but doesn't it SEEM warmer when the Sun is out? Always has to me, anyway!

321 lawhawk  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:35:04am

re: #298 JamesTKirk

The Ark of the Covenant is in a warehouse in DC, waiting for "top men" to study it.

Heh. It's in a warehouse at Area 51, alongside the Roswell UFO, Walt Disney's cryogenic tube, and the proof that steel doesn't melt in fire. /

322 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:35:06am

re: #319 loppyd

You did?!?

When did you get out?

Early 90s.

323 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:35:19am

re: #316 WriterMom

Obama "Understands" Hamas View of Him
Noice!

What planet are the commenters from?

/idiots

324 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:35:54am

re: #313 laZardo

And the remains of the control panel where Jooooliani detonated the World Trade Center towers...

/tin-foil hat a bit crinkled

But of course! How silly of me! LOL

325 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:36:00am

re: #308 galloping granny

Do you want the Amish Friendship Bread starter or just regular sourdough starter?

Well, the Amish Friendship bread had so much sugar, it was a calorie buster. Sourdough would be great!

326 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:36:15am

re: #316 WriterMom

Obama "Understands" Hamas View of Him
Noice!

"It's conceivable that there are those in the Arab world who say to themselves, 'This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein [Racist! You can't say that!] and appears more worldly [not to mention humble] and has called for talks with people [you know... talks... with, like, people... people who need people...] , and so he's not going to be engaging in the same sort of cowboy diplomacy as George Bush [so you WILL be nice to Hamas, is that it?] ,'" Obama said in an interview with The Atlantic

327 Miss Trixie  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:36:16am

re: #300 wahabicorridor

Well, howdy! Long time no talk to! Remember I sent you an email awhile back talking about the Amish Friendship bread I had started making?

Well, I stopped. The amount of flour and sugar the stuff uses was costing big bucks.

(Wish I knew how to make a starter tho, so that I could try my own recipe)

Don't look at me - I have absolutely no patience for starters and messing about with sourdough-like recipes. However, I do have a bread machine and I use it to make my dough then I take it from there, shape it, rise it and bake it meself.

All's well, luv?

328 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:36:26am

re: #316 WriterMom

Obama "Understands" Hamas View of Him
Noice!

"It's conceivable that there are those in the Arab world who say to themselves, 'This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein and appears more worldly and has called for talks with people, and so he's not going to be engaging in the same sort of cowboy diplomacy as George Bush,'

Wait just a minute! I thought we weren't allowed to mention his middle name?!?

More worldy? Could he be any snobbier?

Good Morning, BTW~

329 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:37:07am

re: #315 tfc3rid

'Top....Men'

Love Indy...

I have a link to pictures of the new movie...interested?

330 katemaclaren  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:37:15am

Good morning! I see morning Lizards are different than late night Lizards--although I swear I've seen Blue Canuck up late. Hey what say someone do a film on Oliver Stone? Drudge this morning has a cringe-inducing link to a piece in the New York Post about Stone's movie. It hurts to read it.

331 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:37:19am

re: #316 WriterMom

"This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein and appears more worldly and has called for talks with people..."

Does this mean the mute button's off?

332 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:37:25am

re: #310 1SG(ret) Hey Top - could we do it about the same time we were going to yesterday? I only ask cause the "maintentance" folks around here (read "undocumented workers") are finally cutting down a tree in our front yard that has been dead - and a very real danger in any windstorm or Thunderstorm and I can hardly hear myself type! LOL! - And they've got like three power saws running right now and haven't even approached the tree yet.
Hmmmmmmmm - wonder if I should be sitting here- right under that dead tree?!

333 The Other Les  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:37:56am

re: #309 laZardo

Try getting that past the eco-lobby. Though wind turbines do look quite spectacular when placed properly...

I would suggest that the eco-lobby be treated as if it were the present day equivalent of the German-American Bund.

334 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:38:02am

re: #322 JamesTKirk

Early 90s.

I wasn't paying attention in the 90's.

Now it's too late. LOL

335 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:38:03am

re: #320 realwest

Yeah, but doesn't it SEEM warmer when the Sun is out? Always has to me, anyway!

GLOBAL WARMING!

How are you my friend?

336 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:38:13am

re: #326 Occasional Reader

It makes perfect sense to Joe Jihadi...Hussein for President!

337 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:38:40am

re: #329 vxbush

I have a link to pictures of the new movie...interested?

Most definitely!

338 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:39:03am

re: #334 loppyd

Given the ecoagitprop I was exposed to growing up as a 90s kid, sometimes I wish I didn't pay attention...

339 Widow'smight  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:39:23am

re: #309 laZardo

I pass them in Somerset Country along the PA Turnpike when going to visit my daughter in Pittsburgh. Funny thing is, unless it's windy, they don't generate any electricity.

Maybe they'll allow us to have stills, and we can make our own alchohol.

340 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:39:24am

re: #314 tfc3rid

I have to agree... I think right now everyone is complaining about gas prices... If the American people realized how much oil we could be producing domestically, as well as gas, I think they would be surprised and say 'Why the hell aren't we doing that...'

The point of the left is to prevent domestic exploration, to keep gas prices high, so people will stop driving trucks and SUVs, and even more than that, force people onto public transportation. Of yeah, and destroy the economy, too.

341 katemaclaren  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:39:26am

...and Charles--although I'm sure you already know this by now--a letter is being auctioned today that will undoubtedly cause some serious waves. It's Einstein's. He says religion is basically childish and that the Jews aren't the chosen people. I see trouble ahead.

342 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:39:29am

re: #328 loppyd

Good morning...he is sending a message to the Muslim world?

Hey-I understand you, I have the middle name HUSSEIN...blah blah blah...you can count on me, bro....blah blah blah.

343 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:39:36am

re: #337 tfc3rid

Most definitely!

Look here.

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Much more than 5. The actress who plays Marion looks fantastic.

344 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:40:11am

re: #310 1SG(ret) OH and btw, I meant that Obama and Hillary are gonna cut US Defense spending by a LOT - I doubt that McCain will do anything like that, in fact quite the opposite.
'Course, what I'm really conerned with is the Senate and the House - thanks at least in significant part to the economy, I think the Dem's will win a significant number of seats in both houses of Congress.
Sigh.

345 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:40:15am

re: #340 Ward Cleaver

The point of the left is to prevent domestic exploration, to keep gas prices high, so people will stop driving trucks and SUVs, and even more than that, force people onto public transportation. Of yeah, and destroy the economy, too.

Yeah because public transportation is SOOOOOOO fantastic... It takes me one hour to get home and I live 5 miles from work...

346 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:40:16am

re: #341 katemaclaren

Linky?

347 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:40:54am

re: #309 laZardo

Try getting that past the eco-lobby. Though wind turbines do look quite spectacular when placed properly...

Which is anywhere but the backyard of the people who actually support them (I'm looking at you, Teddy!)

348 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:40:57am

re: #333 The Other Les

I actually believe that you could cover otherwise barren swaths of desert with solar cells though...and in case of a terrorist attack, you can just ship out a panel from a nearby storage and replace it. LOL.

349 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:41:12am

re: #343 vxbush

Look here.

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Much more than 5. The actress who plays Marion looks fantastic.

Stupid link is blocked at work... There's a shocker...

Is it Karen Allen again? I thought she had fallen off the face of the Earth...

350 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:41:16am

re: #342 WriterMom

Good morning...he is sending a message to the Muslim world?

Hey-I understand you, I have the middle name HUSSEIN...blah blah blah...you can count on me, bro....blah blah blah.

I can mention my middle name but you sure as hell can't!

351 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:41:46am

re: #327 Miss Trixie

All's well, luv?

Pretty much. I still have a nasty cough, but I'm ambulatory. The Fat Beagle's paw infection is much better.

Getting this 2007 Farm Bill out the damn door so Bush can veto it is like trying to shove cows into a blizzard. What a pain.

352 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:41:51am

re: #345 tfc3rid

Yeah because public transportation is SOOOOOOO fantastic... It takes me one hour to get home and I live 5 miles from work...

Hell, you could almost walk that in an hour.

353 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:41:55am

re: #343 vxbush

Look here.

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Much more than 5. The actress who plays Marion looks fantastic.

What a shame HF is such a friggin' moonbat, 'cause the man is HOT with a capital HOT!

/sigh...

354 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:42:19am

re: #349 tfc3rid

Stupid link is blocked at work... There's a shocker...

Is it Karen Allen again? I thought she had fallen off the face of the Earth...

Yes. And she really doesn't look like she's twenty years older. Either fantastic makeup, fantastic plastic surgery, or fantastic genes. I hope it's the latter.

355 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:42:21am

re: #341 katemaclaren

To an atheist, a theocracy is a theocracy is a theocracy, regardless of faith.

/paging KT...

356 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:42:53am

re: #328 {loppyd} He good morning good looking! How are you and yours doing today?

357 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:42:56am

re: #349 tfc3rid

Stupid link is blocked at work... There's a shocker...

Is it Karen Allen again? I thought she had fallen off the face of the Earth...

Yes she is....

She will always be Boon's girlfriend to me. :)

358 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:43:03am

re: #315 tfc3rid

'Top....Men'

And now that we've got Andrew Sullivan's attention...

359 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:43:33am

re: #349 tfc3rid

Stupid link is blocked at work... There's a shocker...

Is it Karen Allen again? I thought she had fallen off the face of the Earth...

Yes, Karen Allen is in it. I read an article last week about her being paired with Ford again. They waited years for the right script and project to come along.

360 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:43:50am

re: #345 tfc3rid

Not to sound eco-weenieish, but in rush hour the Light Rail here can zip you across Manila in practically half the time. Now if only they had roomier trains... =_=

361 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:43:52am

re: #344 realwest

I seethe Dems winning 3 or 4 more Senate Seats and about 9 additional House seats...

Doesn't help now with Vito Fossella's issues here in NY... There was a seat that was safe GOP, now uncertain...

362 katemaclaren  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:44:01am

re: #340 Ward Cleaver

Boy, ain't that the truth. My dad's business was oil exploration. Before he died a couple of years ago, he used to rave on about all the oil wells capped off the coast of Louisiana and California. He could not understand the reasoning behind it. I was with him in Alaska once where he pointed to the ice and snow (Point Barrow) and told me that "once forests grew here--that's why there's oil." Now when people scream about global warming, I think about my dad's other illustration. We were in the Middle East and out on a ride in the desert--you know what's coming, don't you? "Know why there's oil here? There were once forests.." I'm paraphrasing him because I was only nine years old and have a somewhat sunny memory of those days, but an imperfect recall for exact quotes.

363 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:44:21am
Britain's Queen Elizabeth II makes her first visit to Turkey in 37 years on Thursday - a trip designed to underscore her country's strong support for Turkish membership in the European Union.

For four days the queen and her husband, Prince Philip, will see some of Turkey's most revered national monuments as well as religious and cultural traditions, highlighting Britain's good relations with the mostly Muslim nation.

Britain has backed Turkey's bid to join the EU, and the queen will highlight that support, British Ambassador Nick Baird said.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

364 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:44:21am

re: #338 laZardo

Given the ecoagitprop I was exposed to growing up as a 90s kid, sometimes I wish I didn't pay attention...

Yeah, but look how great you turned out!

365 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:44:28am

re: #352 Ward Cleaver

Hell, you could almost walk that in an hour.

No kidding... Had to on 9/11 and the blackout...

366 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:44:44am

re: #360 laZardo

Not to sound eco-weenieish

Nothin' wrong at all with light rail for urban centers. Nothing at all.

367 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:45:09am

gotta hop lizards! have a great day. Maybe I can check in later............

368 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:45:11am

re: #357 loppyd

Yes! Love Animal House...

369 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:45:27am

re: #325 wahabicorridor

Well, the Amish Friendship bread had so much sugar, it was a calorie buster. Sourdough would be great!

That is easy enough. You can make a good, if not 100% "authentic", starter by putting 2 cups of flour, 3/4 cup warm water (barely!) and 1 scant tablespoon of yeast in a bowl. Cover it and then let it stand at room temp for 48 hours, by which time it will have become very foamy, then collapsed and will have a distinct beery smell. Knead in enough flour to make a firm dough, then let it rise overnight. Divide the dough. Put a clump the size of a softball or so into a roomy plastic container and keep it in the fridge. Take another lump the size of a softball and tear it into bits into one cup of barely warm water. Stir and let stand overnight. That is the starter! Give the rest to a friend. Every time you use the starter add 1 cup barely warm water and 1 cup flour to feed it. Feed it at least once a week whether it needs it or not. Do not add anything else to the starter!

If you need to renew the starter, grab the ball out of the fridge and proceed as you did with the second ball.

If you end up with lots of extra starter (easy to do if you don't use it often enough) you can spread the liquid starter out on waxed paper and allow it to dry. Crumble the dry starter into a powder. Easy way to move your starter or share it.

370 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:45:31am

re: #335 tfc3rid Hi! I'm doing ok - though a little nervous cause the maintenance folks are now approaching that long-dead BIG TREE that is right in front of my bedroom/computer room with saw's a blazing buzzing and look awfully excited about it!
How about you - how are you and how's the weather up there in my Home Town?

371 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:46:27am

re: #364 loppyd

I'm really hoping you forgot the sarc tag...

372 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:46:50am

re: #371 laZardo

I'm really hoping you forgot the sarc tag...

You are too hard on yourself....

373 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:46:59am

re: #353 Grammy Cracker

What a shame HF is such a friggin' moonbat, 'cause the man is HOT with a capital HOT!

/sigh...

Well yeah, but Grammy he is OLD. Probably got an enlarged prostate and needs Viagra.

374 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:47:24am

re: #368 tfc3rid

Yes! Love Animal House...

It's in my top 10 for sure.

375 katemaclaren  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:47:25am

re: #346 WriterMom

Oh dear. I don't know how. But call up Drudge and you'll see the links. So sorry. Is it that paperclip icon thingy? I don't get much practice at this. I'll try though now that I have a whole week without teaching a single college student how to use a semicolon.

376 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:47:38am

re: #373 galloping granny

Well yeah, but Grammy he is OLD. Probably got an enlarged prostate and needs Viagra.

Funny; we never used to say that about Sean Connery. My one sister has the biggest crush on him and has had for decades.

377 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:47:39am
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad accused Israel, the US and Britain Tuesday of involvement in the Shiraz mosque explosion last month, in which 14 people were killed, the Iranian news agency (IRNA) reported.

According to Ahmadinejad, “the three countries announced they were planning an attempted killing of Iranian members, which was shortly followed by the Shiraz mosque crime.” He added that “thanks to the Iranian intelligence efforts, the explosion executors were quickly arrested and admitted their ties to the Zionist rule, the US and Britain.”

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

378 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:47:55am

re: #373 galloping granny

Well yeah, but Grammy he is OLD. Probably got an enlarged prostate and needs Viagra.

and wears that stupid earring....

379 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:48:13am

re: #370 realwest

Weather is lovely today, after a very November-like day yesterday... Doing pretty well and it's a short week for me...

I see there are a few 'Undocumented Workers' taking that tree down... Hope they don't find out that you are realwest and take out your Xenophobic, racist views out by sending that tree through your home... Just kidding, of course, I hope...

380 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:48:21am

re: #366 Occasional Reader

Nothin' wrong at all with light rail for urban centers. Nothing at all.

I don't either.

381 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:48:45am

Good Morning Lizards! It's another glorious day in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland so far. They say it might storm later tho.

Is it me or was Charles up very early this morning?

How are you-all this morning and what are we talking about?

382 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:48:56am

re: #374 loppyd

It's in my top 10 for sure.

Same here!

383 hermeneutics  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:48:58am

Global warming alert from Flagstaff, Arizona.

I heard it raining last night as I fell asleep around midnight. During the night I dreamt of winter. Of being cold. Of an eerie silence.

(Desert dwellers don't dream of winter.)

When I awoke, the ground was covered with a layer of ice and slush which was, in turn, topped with about eight inches of wet snow. It is still snowing. Hard. Big flakes. Tall pines branches are sagging from the weight of snow.

Luck was finally with me. Yesterday, I came down from 11,000 feet to get a bicycle fixed and decided to stay, just one night, at an urban KOA at about 8,000 feet. So I've got the amenities of home -- water, a bathroom, full electricity and WIFI. Had I been up in the mountains, I would have been stuck, perhaps for days.

Of course, this morning, I had to trudge about a suburban block to the KOA bathroom in my sandals ... and then back. I have one pair of socks and one light jacket.

Brrrrrr. I can see my breath INSIDE the popup.

End of update.

I pity the group of teen boys ih cheap tents that are now wet and covered with ice/snow. Not happy campers?

384 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:49:23am

re: #375 katemaclaren

Don't worry, I'll check out Drudge.

By the way, do links, you press the paper clip button (links) then past the URL into the pop up menu. It's very easy.

385 Widow'smight  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:49:31am

re: #314 tfc3rid


And instead of doing this, he's shitting on the President who has a hell of alot more on his plate than McCain does. McCain and the Republican leadership are not distinquishing themselves.

My wife and I are able to handle these high fuel costs, but it's a real problem for many folks. Where's the "Straight Talk Express"? Besides, how would the US producing more of it's own energy make the planet less green?

Here in PA, McCain could take this state if he'd announce he'd increase production. So, he could do the best thing for the country and himself, but he's too Green to do it.

We haven't been trash talking lately, I'll have to check the standings.

386 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:49:37am

re: #376 vxbush

When he is in his grave 80 years, Sean Connery will still be the sexiest man on the planet.

387 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:49:49am

re: #376 vxbush

Funny; we never used to say that about Sean Connery. My one sister has the biggest crush on him and has had for decades.

I'm just sad that Sean Connery was not called on to reprise his role as Indy's father... He was superb in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade...

388 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:50:29am

re: #377 storagemanager

According to Ahmadinejad, “the three countries announced they were planning an attempted killing of Iranian members

He sounds like Crazy Cat Lady.

389 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:50:38am

re: #356 {realwest}

He good morning good looking! How are you and yours doing today?

Good Morning, Handsome!

We're all holding our own. LOL

How's by you?

390 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:51:08am

UH, sorry y'all, but they're cutting that huge dead tree down from both sides now and somehow I don't think that's how you're supposed to do it!

BBIAW - I hope!

391 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:51:22am
392 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:51:26am
393 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:51:40am

re: #387 tfc3rid

I'm just sad that Sean Connery was not called on to reprise his role as Indy's father... He was superb in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade...

Agreed, but imagine how old he would have been in this movie? They had to write a script where Indy was a good deal older. Then his father should already be dead or in a nursing home. Not many options there.

394 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:51:55am

Hey rw! how you doin' this am?

395 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:52:41am

re: #373 galloping granny

Well yeah, but Grammy he is OLD. Probably got an enlarged prostate and needs Viagra.

LOL! True enough.... but I've always loved me some older men! The problem is, the older I get, the older they get.... at some point, I may be forced to turn cougar-ish. Hah!

396 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:52:43am

re: #385 Widow'smight

Mets blow... So disappointing... They need to fire Willie Randolph...

397 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:52:45am

re: #372 loppyd

Not really. At least I'm never disappointed. (;

398 katemaclaren  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:53:12am

Okay, By George I think I've got it!
Breitbart

Well, anyway, I hope so. Please don't send a hail of insults my way if this didn't work. (Ducking under the desk).

399 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:53:15am

re: #369 galloping granny

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Saved to my recipe file and printed.

/they cancelled the conference call. WOO HOO! Manure management before noon is a bit much to take

400 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:53:23am

re: #391 taxfreekiller

GLOBAL WARMING IS A TOTAL FRAUD, ITS JUST BULL SHIT
TO GIVE THESE THUGS MORE POWER,,,,

Yep.

401 The Other Les  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:53:46am

re: #348 laZardo

I actually believe that you could cover otherwise barren swaths of desert with solar cells though...and in case of a terrorist attack, you can just ship out a panel from a nearby storage and replace it. LOL.

That's nice but I'm a fan of the concept of the Geosynchronous Power Satellite.

402 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:54:01am

re: #398 katemaclaren

You did it! You can use the other buttons: strike, italics and quote in the same way.

403 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:54:07am

re: #400 WriterMom

Yep.

It's a plot to bring Socialism into the mainstream... Everyone standing with it is aiding and abetting the Socialist Creep...

404 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:55:09am

re: #386 ggt

When he is in his grave 80 years, Sean Connery will still be the sexiest man on the planet.

Another hot old moonbat! Let's not forget Paul Newman, hubba hubba moonbat, too.

This could get really depressing....

405 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:55:27am

re: #403 tfc3rid

Watermelons~

406 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:55:39am

re: #403 tfc3rid

aiding and abetting the Socialist Creep

Which one? There are so many to choose from!

/

Later, kids.

407 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:55:56am

re: #404 Grammy Cracker

Sean Connery is a moonbat?!? Say it isn't so.

408 Widow'smight  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:56:04am

re: #373 galloping granny

Yeah, and remember, they always have separate bathtubs in those commercials. What age do you need that Viagra/Cialis stuff?

409 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:56:08am

ARRRGGGGGHHHH.

The new lawyer in the office next to mine has the volume on her phone set so high it makes me jump every time it rings.

410 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:56:27am

re: #391 taxfreekiller

Of Some Note:

[Link: www.arapahoebasin.com...]

7 " Snow last three days
5" last night,

12" over all

Snowing now, see the web cam.

We should invite all the msm, D's and R's for Pres. there for a
Snow Cone and week of snow skiing the last two weeks of
May, could be they would fall some and get the snow up their
dumb ass nose's and understand,,

GLOBAL WARMING IS A TOTAL FRAUD, ITS JUST BULL SHIT
TO GIVE THESE THUGS MORE POWER,,,,

LOW LIFE EVIL TWO PARTY MSM ENABLED SHIT HOLE CULT

It's a plot to destroy capitalism.

411 Miss Trixie  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:56:32am

re: #360 laZardo

Not to sound eco-weenieish, but in rush hour the Light Rail here can zip you across Manila in practically half the time. Now if only they had roomier trains... =_=

Why? You have a big butt?

:P

412 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:56:44am

re: #404 Grammy Cracker

oooohhh, Paul Newman --and married to the same women for all these years. Somehow, that makes him sexier.

Kirk Douglas!

413 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:56:47am
414 The Other Les  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:56:53am

re: #407 WriterMom

Sean Connery is a moonbat?!? Say it isn't so.

I think that was Paul Newman who's the moonbat.

415 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:57:10am

re: #409 loppyd

ARRRGGGGGHHHH.

The new lawyer in the office next to mine has the volume on her phone set so high it makes me jump every time it rings.

You should sneak over there and lower it. Or complain.

/turn it down!

416 katemaclaren  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:57:56am

re: #392 WriterMom

well while you were SUCCEEDING, I was learning! ;-)
If it hadn't been for you, I probably would have postponed learning how to do this. Thanks. I can now add that to my "lately-acquired skills" folder--hoping to generate enough energy to fend off oldtimer's.

417 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:57:59am

re: #411 Miss Trixie

Trixie! Long time no see, how's the little miss?

418 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:58:06am

re: #392 WriterMom

Drudge linky for Einstein letter.

From the link:

"And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people."


For a man with his insight/intuition/powers of observation, this is an amazingly off-the-mark statement......had he totally missed the unique manner in this Jews have been treated since Abraham?

419 hermeneutics  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:58:14am

WV primary is tonight.

Special election in Mississippi for a Rep trying to keep his seat. Hope there is a Mississippi lizard to give updates.

420 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:58:51am

Well, we spent $125 yesterday to find out our dog was a little dehydrated, which could explain why she threw up bood. Ouch.

421 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:58:55am
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Tuesday that the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) which should help restore global peace and security has turned into a tools in the hands of bullying powers.

Speaking to domestic and foreign reporters, he said the world is facing numerous problems and the news on political, economic and cultural developments in the world are not promising.

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

422 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:59:00am

re: #413 taxfreekiller


Great Sprit?

does the Great Sprit create weet dreams?

423 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 6:59:27am

re: #401 The Other Les

And speaking of which, I can think of one good reason to fund the space program...

/the "Death Star" would be a bit...excessive.

424 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:00:17am

re: #410 Ward Cleaver

It's a plot to destroy capitalism.

Literally.....part of the communist manifesto.....the state should control all natural resources and manage distribution of capital.

425 Golem Akbar  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:00:21am

re: #392 WriterMom

Drudge linky for Einstein letter.

I saw the Einstein exhibit in Los Angeles a couple of years ago. He was a mixed bag. He evidently wasn't such a wonderful guy, privately, yet he loved and encouraged his humanitarian image. Still, he was a brilliant scientist.

I like to think that both the religious and non-religious have a lot in common, especially regarding democracies and the fight against fascism (Islamo-fascism today). I think Einstein would have been on the side of democracy and civilization, today, in the fight against the Islamo-Nazi-fascists. He probably would've been a closet Lizard.

426 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:00:22am

re: #415 Ward Cleaver

You should sneak over there and lower it. Or complain.

/turn it down!

She locks her door or I would.

Judging from the day she moved in during which she screamed at her husband constantly I don't think she's very approachable. LOL

427 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:00:23am

re: #418 eschew_obfuscation

For a man with his insight/intuition/powers of observation, this is an amazingly off-the-mark statement......had he totally missed the unique manner in this Jews have been treated since Abraham?

My only guess is that his brain was so full of the questions of physics that he never had time or inclination to evaluate the way his people had been treated over the centuries. He had some unusual habits, as I recall, that seem to indicate his brain was always working on his problems and not working on the things of his life.

428 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:00:35am

re: #420 Ward Cleaver

Well, we spent $125 yesterday to find out our dog was a little dehydrated, which could explain why she threw up bood. Ouch.

I think my little guy has a similar deal on Sunday... He threw up some brown looking stuff... He's fine now...

429 sojerofgod  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:00:40am

re: #404 Grammy Cracker

Speaking as a man, I could never understand what women see in us. Stinkin' hairy hunch monkey's with few redeeming qualities outside of economic support (and that includes our esteemed ancestors bringing home the dead meat)
Most men I have met are arrogant to the point of self-induced ignorance, and wilfully blind to the feelings of others beyond the point of redemption. In a word, Ick.

Needless to say, I've never been a salesman.

I suppose I'll never be accused of being gay, either...

430 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:00:47am

re: #414 The Other Les

PHEW. Because the minute even the sexiest guy starts drooling moonbatspeak-it's just the ultimate turn off. Glech.

431 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:00:54am

re: #411 Miss Trixie

No, but I have a big laptop. 10 lbs without the adapter and it's a 2004 model.

/And I cannot lie...

432 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:01:02am

re: #420 Ward Cleaver

Well, we spent $125 yesterday to find out our dog was a little dehydrated, which could explain why she threw up bood. Ouch.

Poor girl. She's worth it!

433 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:01:12am

re: #425 Golem Akbar

German Hitchens?

434 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:01:26am

re: #426 loppyd

She locks her door or I would.

Judging from the day she moved in during which she screamed at her husband constantly I don't think she's very approachable. LOL

I love my new office but the ventilation unit over my head has had no air going through it since I got here and it's getting damn stuffy in here, even with a fan...

435 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:01:32am

re: #407 WriterMom

Sean Connery is a moonbat?!? Say it isn't so.

He lost me when he advocated slapping women around in an interview some years ago. He explains it all to Barbara Walters....

436 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:01:52am

re: #411 Miss Trixie

Why? You have a big butt?

:P

You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your face
You get SPRUNG! Etc.

437 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:01:55am

re: #429 sojerofgod

Speaking as a man, I could never understand what women see in us. Stinkin' hairy hunch monkey's with few redeeming qualities outside of economic support (and that includes our esteemed ancestors bringing home the dead meat)
Most men I have met are arrogant to the point of self-induced ignorance, and wilfully blind to the feelings of others beyond the point of redemption. In a word, Ick.

Needless to say, I've never been a salesman.

I suppose I'll never be accused of being gay, either...

And one of the reasons I love my husband is because he isn't arrogant and not totally blind to others.

438 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:01:57am
439 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:02:05am

re: #434 tfc3rid

I love my new office but the ventilation unit over my head has had no air going through it since I got here and it's getting damn stuffy in here, even with a fan...

Bummer.

My windows open and I can smell the ocean....

440 katemaclaren  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:02:18am

re: #418 eschew_obfuscation

For a man with his insight/intuition/powers of observation, this is an amazingly off-the-mark statement......had he totally missed the unique manner in this Jews have been treated since Abraham?

Well, note that this letter was written in 1954. That may account for his attitude--which seems to have changed later, if I remember correctly. Or NOT, ,my memory of those halycon days not what it should be.

441 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:02:21am

re: #425 Golem Akbar

Golem-he was flawed, so what else is new. He was also a womanizer, I'm sure he mentally tortured the women he was involved with. I'm not to fussed about the letter. I'm sure he would be a lizard-not even in the closet...right out there, wearing lizardhood as a badge of pride (ha ha pride...not "Pride" like the LGTBQ kind..)

442 Alouette  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:02:35am

re: #418 eschew_obfuscation

For a man with his insight/intuition/powers of observation, this is an amazingly off-the-mark statement......had he totally missed the unique manner in this Jews have been treated since Abraham?

Einstein's genius did not extend outside the field of physics and mathematics. His views on politics, religion and women were astonishingly retarded.

443 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:02:39am
444 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:02:52am
445 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:03:01am

re: #436 JamesTKirk

You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your face
You get SPRUNG! Etc.

So ladies, ladies
If you wanna ride my Mercedes
Then turn around
Stick it out
Shake that nasty butt

446 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:03:10am

re: #420 Ward Cleaver

oh, we had a pup like that once. The emergency vet hooked an IV up and pumped fluids in under the skin in her back. She had two humps when we took her home. They dissipated during the night. Next morning at the regular vet we found out she had pancreatitis. Poor think was there for a week.

447 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:03:20am
448 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:03:57am

re: #439 loppyd

Bummer.

My windows open and I can smell the ocean....

Windows? HE HE HE What are those? At least I don't have a door... That's the only air I get...

449 hermeneutics  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:04:00am

Democrats Look to Take MS-1
Democrats and Republicans "may be more focused on Mississippi tonight than on the West Virginia presidential primary," CQ Politics reports. "After all, the primary's outcome is already predicted, while the outcome of the Mississippi's 1st Congressional District special election is much less certain."

If Travis W. Childers (D) beats Greg Davis (R), "he would be the third Democrat in recent weeks to take over a Republican-held seat" in a special election.

Interestingly, the New York Times notes Republicans "in this mostly white and very conservative district are trying to make the vote more a referendum on Senator Barack Obama than on the candidates themselves."


[Link: politicalwire.com...]

450 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:05:09am

re: #420 Ward Cleaver

Well, we spent $125 yesterday to find out our dog was a little dehydrated, which could explain why she threw up bood. Ouch.


WHAT?! NO! NO! NO!

Your dog is dehydrated BECAUSE it was throwing up. Did they even do x-rays to check for foreign objects?

Please, Ward. christheprofessor's dog was lost to stomach cancer, our Fat Beagle had canine hemoragghic gastroenteritis - all serious stuff.

451 paxnhymn  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:05:20am

re: #445 loppyd

lops I can't handle it when yas talks duhty...makes me all squishy!

{Loppy}

:-D

452 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:05:27am

China Death Toll Exceeds 12,000 After Devastating Quake

At least 4,800 people remain buried in buried in Mianzhu, 60 miles from the epicenter. [Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

453 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:05:32am

re: #429 sojerofgod

Judge Judy said that women don't need men anymore, there are dildoes and luggage with wheels.

Somehow, I don't think it's the same. Men have some qualities I find rather attractive. Well, some men.

454 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:06:07am

re: #435 Grammy Cracker

I don't agree with the slapping thing. However, I certainly have seen women push and push in a really cruel and provocative way, serious spousal torture. I believe that people have to overcome the urge to react physically, though. That's just primitive and abusive.

455 katemaclaren  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:06:12am

re: #402 WriterMom

((((((WRITER MOM))))))))))

THANKS!
Oawwwaaaa! I feel good...dah dah dah dah dah dah dah...like you knew that I would...dah dah dah dah dah...so good...

Anyone seen Young at Heart? (documentary about a very old singing group)

456 Golem Akbar  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:06:19am

re: #418 eschew_obfuscation

For a man with his insight/intuition/powers of observation, this is an amazingly off-the-mark statement......had he totally missed the unique manner in this Jews have been treated since Abraham?

Einstein the man was totally self-obsessed. He could only see himself and what else was in the world revolved around him alone. He was brilliant as a scientist, not as a human being.

457 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:06:20am

re: #451 paxnhymn

lops I can't handle it when yas talks duhty...makes me all squishy!

{Loppy}

:-D

{Pax}

Scarily, I know the lyrics to that song by heart.

Ah, college.

458 1SG(ret)  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:06:33am

re: #400 WriterMom

And we have three running for the Head Thug of GW position. We are so screwed. My optimism for the future of this Nation is going through a complete overhaul these days.
Top

459 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:06:33am
re: #439 loppyd

Bummer.

My windows open and I can smell the ocean....

My window is open and I can smell the cows.

460 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:07:08am

re: #448 tfc3rid

Windows? HE HE HE What are those? At least I don't have a door... That's the only air I get...

I used to work in a big glass box so I hears ya.

461 abolitionist  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:07:25am

re: #370 realwest

Hi! I'm doing ok - though a little nervous cause the maintenance folks are now approaching that long-dead BIG TREE that is right in front of my bedroom/computer room with saw's a blazing buzzing and look awfully excited about it!
How about you - how are you and how's the weather up there in my Home Town?

About a month ago, county forced my next-door neighbor to remove an old near-dead Maple tree next to our property line. Trunk was about 5 1/2 feet wide at the base. The lowermost piece of it, about 10 feet long, weighed 6 tons, I estimated. The machine they used for carrying it to the street took a route directly over our two water meters.

/ I got pics with the tire tracks

462 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:07:28am

re: #459 storagemanager

My window is open and I can smell the cows.

Lovely!

LOL

463 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:08:13am

re: #429 sojerofgod

Speaking as a man, I could never understand what women see in us. Stinkin' hairy hunch monkey's with few redeeming qualities outside of economic support (and that includes our esteemed ancestors bringing home the dead meat)
Most men I have met are arrogant to the point of self-induced ignorance, and wilfully blind to the feelings of others beyond the point of redemption. In a word, Ick.

Needless to say, I've never been a salesman.

I suppose I'll never be accused of being gay, either...

ROFL! I have often said that if it weren't for women, men would still live in caves...

But you're not ALL such a bad lot... In fact, nearly all of the really serious trouble I've ever been in started with liking men (or the wrong man) too MUCH! Ha!

464 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:08:25am

re: #459 storagemanager

My window is open and I can smell the cows.

Man I really have to get out of NYC...

465 Golem Akbar  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:08:29am

re: #433 laZardo

German Hitchens?


Yeah, most likely.

466 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:09:30am
While maintaining an ironclad commitment to Israel's security, Barack Obama says he understood why a top Hamas adviser voiced support for his presidential bid.

"It's conceivable that there are those in the Arab world who say to themselves, 'This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein and appears more worldly and has called for talks with people, and so he's not going to be engaging in the same sort of cowboy diplomacy as George Bush,'" Obama said in an interview with The Atlantic.

"That's a perfectly legitimate perception as long as they're not confused about my unyielding support for Israel's security," Obama said.

Last month, Ahmed Yousef, a political adviser to the militant Palestinian group, told an interviewer on WABC radio that "We like Mr. Obama" and "we hope that he will win the election."

Yousef's comments sparked intense criticism from John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, who recently vowed to be "Hamas' worst nightmare."

"If Sen. Obama is favored by Hamas, I think people can make judgments accordingly," McCain said

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

467 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:09:37am

re: #463 Grammy Cracker

ROFL! I have often said that if it weren't for women, men would still live in caves...

But you're not ALL such a bad lot... In fact, nearly all of the really serious trouble I've ever been in started with liking men (or the wrong man) too MUCH! Ha!

I just remember Bill Cosby's quote of his wife during labor:

"YOU did this to me!"

468 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:10:38am

re: #459 storagemanager

My window is open and I can smell the cows.

Hey, I live by corn fields, and I like it.

469 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:11:03am

re: #467 vxbush


ahhh,ha during delivery, I yelled at the doctor. I thought for all the money he was making, he should be doing all the work.

470 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:11:14am

re: #442 Alouette

Einstein's genius did not extend outside the field of physics and mathematics. His views on politics, religion and women were astonishingly retarded.

Most true geniuses are like that; savants, almost. Frank Lloyd Wright comes to mind. Incredible architect and visionary, horrible human being.

471 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:11:45am

re: #469 ggt

ahhh,ha during delivery, I yelled at the doctor. I thought for all the money he was making, he should be doing all the work.

Oh! LOL! That is priceless! My husband's favorite story during the birth of our firstborn was that I put him in a headlock when I wanted to push and they said not to!

472 alegrias  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:11:46am

re: #442 Alouette

Einstein's genius did not extend outside the field of physics and mathematics. His views on politics, religion and women were astonishingly retarded.

* * *
Einstein married his own cousin, how's that for EVOLVED! E=M2(squared) bla bla bla...still a troglodyte!

Though I'm eternally grateful for Einstein alerting our president Roosevelt that Herr Schicklgrubr's WMD were developping, NOT for peaceful purposes.

Where's the Iranian Einstein spilling the beans on Ahmedinejad?

473 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:12:46am
Detectives raid government ministry in Olmert investigation
National Fraud Unit searches Industry, Trade and Labor Ministry in Jerusalem, seizes documents related to illicit funding case.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

474 zmdavid  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:12:52am

re: #403 tfc3rid

It's a plot to bring Socialism into the mainstream... Everyone standing with it is aiding and abetting the Socialist Creep...


They're all a bunch of socialist creeps.

475 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:13:05am

re: #466 storagemanager

Obama passes the Global Test! He's more worldly than that stupid 'Cowboy Diplomacy', like getting revenge for the murder of 3,000 of our citizens... I mean, come on, 3,000? There's like 300 Million in America...

/

476 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:13:58am

re: #454 WriterMom

I don't agree with the slapping thing. However, I certainly have seen women push and push in a really cruel and provocative way, serious spousal torture. I believe that people have to overcome the urge to react physically, though. That's just primitive and abusive.

So you know my mother?!

477 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:14:05am

re: #463 Grammy Cracker

ROFL! I have often said that if it weren't for women, men would still live in caves...

But you're not ALL such a bad lot... In fact, nearly all of the really serious trouble I've ever been in started with liking men (or the wrong man) too MUCH! Ha!

But our caves would be loaded with toys - spear collection, bow and arrow collection, mounted mammoth heads on the wall...

478 loppyd  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:14:10am

Work beckons.

Later, Lizards...

479 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:14:48am

re: #477 Kosh's Shadow

But our caves would be loaded with toys - spear collection, bow and arrow collection, mounted mammoth heads on the wall...

Look what Tony Stark built in a cave...

480 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:14:48am

re: #477 Kosh's Shadow

But our caves would be loaded with toys - spear collection, bow and arrow collection, mounted mammoth heads on the wall...

And with trash inbetween each and every toy, because most men don't clean up after themselves. :D

481 abolitionist  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:15:27am

re: #472 alegrias

* * *
Einstein married his own cousin, how's that for EVOLVED! E=M2(squared) bla bla bla...still a troglodyte!

Though I'm eternally grateful for Einstein alerting our president Roosevelt that Herr Schicklgrubr's WMD were developping, NOT for peaceful purposes.

Where's the Iranian Einstein spilling the beans on Ahmedinejad?

It was Leo Szilard and Edward Teller who drafted the letter, and drew Einstein's attention to the issue. His fame and prestige were put to good use. He signed it.

482 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:15:30am

I have declared a mental health holiday. What's everyone else up to?

483 sojerofgod  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:15:35am

re: #463 Grammy Cracker

Now see, that's just what i mean. Girls are attracted to the 'Bad Boy' who looks cool. What kind of pathology is at work there? I was one of the gawky-ugly types in Highschool too terrified to even talk to a girl- much less ask one out. I probably couldn't buy a date back then. Now that I am 'older' and happily married for 19.85 years, I see the crop my daughter is going to have to pick from and I'm very discouraged.

484 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:15:49am

re: #480 vxbush

And with trash inbetween each and every toy, because most men don't clean up after themselves. :D

Have you been in my shop?

485 hans ze beeman  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:15:51am

Why Israel is the world's happiest country

In a world given over to morbidity, the state of Israel still teaches the world love of life, not in the trivial sense of joie de vivre, but rather as a solemn celebration of life.

Israel is surrounded by neighbors willing to kill themselves in order to destroy it. "As much as you love life, we love death," Muslim clerics teach; the same formula is found in a Palestinian textbook for second graders. Apart from the fact that the Arabs are among the least free, least educated, and (apart from the oil states) poorest peoples in the world, they also are the unhappiest, even in their wealthiest kingdoms.

486 alegrias  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:16:18am

re: #481 abolitionist

It was Leo Szilard and Edward Teller who drafted the letter, and drew Einstein's attention to the issue. His fame and prestige were put to good use. He signed it.

* * *
Thanks--so Mr. celebrity Einstein still married his cousin!

487 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:16:26am

re: #477 Kosh's Shadow

But our caves would be loaded with toys - spear collection, bow and arrow collection, mounted mammoth heads on the wall...

So you know my husband?!

/LOL...you should see his *man cave* in our converted barn. Lots of dead things he whacked with arrows. Some of them were quite tasty, too...

488 Miss Trixie  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:16:59am

re: #417 ggt

Trixie! Long time no see, how's the little miss?

Morning, {toots!} She's just fine and Her Royal Highness had a grooming last weekend. She was mad at me for two days and hid under the ugly sofa only to surface to eat, tinkle or go to bed.

She's so entertaining. :D

How's your menagerie?

489 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:17:02am

re: #484 storagemanager

Have you been in my shop?

Why, yes, I have. Grab that dust mop NOW!

490 sojerofgod  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:17:38am

re: #477 Kosh's Shadow

"I use antlers in all of my decorating!" -Gaston ~Disney's Beauty and the Beast

491 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:17:40am

re: #485 hans ze beeman

hans! Where have you been? Are you stateside yet?

(you may not recognize my nic - I was formerly 'grayp')

492 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:17:56am

re: #472 alegrias

* * *
Einstein married his own cousin, how's that for EVOLVED! E=M2(squared) bla bla bla...still a troglodyte!

Though I'm eternally grateful for Einstein alerting our president Roosevelt that Herr Schicklgrubr's WMD were developping, NOT for peaceful purposes.

Where's the Iranian Einstein spilling the beans on Ahmedinejad?

Lots of people are telling the world about Amadmanonjihad. The problem is, some countries (like Russia and China) want Iranian oil, and if Israel gets nuked, too bad. The problem is those nukes will be used against Russia and China as well as the US.
And no one wants to take on Russia and China.

Seriously, there should be a 100% embargo on Iran. NOTHING gets in or out, until Israel verifies their nuclear program is ended.
And until that point, assets of all Iranian trading partners, equal to at least 3 times the economy of Israel, should be held in escrow in the US and other western countries. If a nuke goes off in Israel, they get the assets, plus they own the UN properties.

493 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:18:19am

re: #480 vxbush

And with trash inbetween each and every toy, because most men don't clean up after themselves. :D

That's not trash. I'm saving it.

494 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:18:23am

re: #488 Miss Trixie

Morning, {toots!} She's just fine and Her Royal Highness had a grooming last weekend. She was mad at me for two days and hid under the ugly sofa only to surface to eat, tinkle or go to bed.

She's so entertaining. :D

How's your menagerie?

I had to take my cat to the vet this morning, and she was NOT amused.

495 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:18:24am

re: #489 vxbush

Does that do any good? When we have guests, I just close the door to my Male's office. It's easier than putting up with his martyred sighs if I request that he clean it up.

496 Alouette  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:18:29am

re: #485 hans ze beeman

Why Israel is the world's happiest country

I don't know if Israel is the "world's happiest country" but I do know that Israelis will put up with a lot of shit and still live relatively normal lives.

Unfortunately this high tolerance for taking shit can also explain why Olmert is still in power.

497 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:19:10am

re: #493 Kosh's Shadow

That's not trash. I'm saving it.

Good night, do not give me that excuse! I'm not buying it!

/heh

498 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:19:35am

re: #495 Dianna

Does that do any good? When we have guests, I just close the door to my Male's office. It's easier than putting up with his martyred sighs if I request that he clean it up.

My husband's office is the basement, and I'm very glad it's down there and out of sight. :D

499 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:20:06am

re: #426 loppyd

She locks her door or I would.

Judging from the day she moved in during which she screamed at her husband constantly I don't think she's very approachable. LOL

Something tells me she won't be there long.

500 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:20:11am

re: #493 Kosh's Shadow


That's not trash. I'm saving it.

So why is it covered with dust, and hasn't been moved from the spot it was tossed two years ago?

501 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:20:27am

re: #497 vxbush

Good night, do not give me that excuse! I'm not buying it!

/heh

You sound like my wife.
(And actually, a lot of that stuff is now gone. We're not down to what she wants, but it is a lot better.)

502 hans ze beeman  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:20:39am

Hi wahabicorridor/grayp,

not yet stateside, my wife gave birth to a little bee-maid recently, which is why plans to move have been delayed. Working on it...

I hope you are fine! All is well with you?

503 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:20:40am

re: #488 Miss Trixie

They are full of themselves as usual. Boy doggie got his coat stripped last night. He needs more work, but I don't think I can handle those eyes again.

504 itellu3times  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:20:59am

re: #427 vxbush

My only guess is that his brain was so full of the questions of physics that he never had time or inclination to evaluate the way his people had been treated over the centuries. He had some unusual habits, as I recall, that seem to indicate his brain was always working on his problems and not working on the things of his life.

He grew up and worked in a a time when science and technology were making great strides for the first time in human history. All the major intellectual trends were about throwing out the old and establishing the new. The Enlightenment (sic) may have started in the eighteenth century, but it seemed to be delivering, with trains and ships, skyscrapers and gatling guns, telephones, radio, x-rays, great telescopes, etc, 1850-1960. Sociology was king. Yes, and Darwinism, both good and twisted. The War to End All Wars. Communism. Even Reform Judaism. The smug attitude we still see in some of our elites (!?!) got much of its modern form in this period.

It was only with the invention of the fission and fusion bombs, that the technology was getting seriously dangerous, and with the evident failures of communism, finally imploded by Ronald Reagan, that the environment changed. Sometimes its hard to see the context of the times you yourself are living through.

505 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:21:11am

re: #500 Dianna

So why is it covered with dust, and hasn't been moved from the spot it was tossed two years ago?

I just haven't gotten to reading it yet. (In my case, it is mostly old magazines.)

506 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:21:33am

re: #498 vxbush

Oh, he's also got a "work bench" in the storage area of the garage. I don't venture down there, much.

Fortunately.

507 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:21:54am

re: #482 Dianna

I have declared a mental health holiday. What's everyone else up to?

You're taking a day off from mental health?

/blink

508 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:22:40am

re: #507 Ward Cleaver

You're taking a day off from mental health?

/blink

Yes, and she's come to the right place to practice.... LOL

509 hans ze beeman  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:22:41am

re: #507 Ward Cleaver

You're taking a day off from mental health?

/blink

At Kos, they celebrate permanent brain vacation...

510 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:22:57am

re: #481 abolitionist

It was Leo Szilard and Edward Teller who drafted the letter, and drew Einstein's attention to the issue. His fame and prestige were put to good use. He signed it.

Teller was always my favorite.

511 sojerofgod  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:23:10am

re: #500 Dianna
Hey, he knows where it is, why move it and perhaps lose it? And who is always losing their keys around my house? /not me cuz I always put them in the same place every day. "others" at the house drop their crap at all kinds of unusual and I must say passingly bizarre places, then we get to go on the great emergency key hunt when it's time to leave for work.

Never a dull moment around the farm!

512 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:23:11am

re: #505 Kosh's Shadow

Ha!

That's my mom, actually.

513 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:23:13am

My dad's workshop and office were always very neat and tidy. Everything in it's place and properly labeled. He even had a shop vac to pic-up the saw dust and other filings.

He is an engineer.

need I say more?

514 paxnhymn  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:23:15am

re: #486 alegrias

* * *
Thanks--so Mr. celebrity Einstein still married his cousin!

did she have her own teeth? Well ok then!

:-D

515 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:23:42am

re: #502 hans ze beeman

congrats on the widdle bee!

516 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:23:43am

re: #507 Ward Cleaver

I'm so tired that that made sense.

Should I worry?

517 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:24:31am

re: #485 hans ze beeman

The military, economic and cultural failures of Islamic societies are intolerable in Muslim eyes; Jewish success is an abomination, for in the view of Muslims it is the due of the faithful, to be coveted and seized from the usurpers at the first opportunity.

Envy/insecurity much?

518 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:24:47am

re: #502 hans ze beeman

Hi wahabicorridor/grayp,

not yet stateside, my wife gave birth to a little bee-maid recently, which is why plans to move have been delayed. Working on it...

I hope you are fine! All is well with you?

You are a daddy and you didn't even send me an email! Congrats and hugs to mother and daughter.

We're fine. Agricultural policy has been fascinating w/all the global food issues.

The nic is blue'd, Dude, drop me a line..................

519 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:25:09am

re: #511 sojerofgod

The keys must have a home!

Around here, it's the "plain sight" rule. If you can't find it, it's in plain sight, you just kept walking past it.

520 sarah  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:25:36am

Has this been mentioned?

We have another presidential candiate?

521 Ben Hur  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:25:45am

Boker Tov.

522 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:26:23am

re: #516 Dianna

I'm so tired that that made sense.

Should I worry?

Just take a nap today.

523 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:26:46am

re: #520 sarah

Bob Barr? Why?

524 sarah  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:26:53am

also ps Good day lizards!

525 lawhawk  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:26:55am

Talks, Terrorists, and a Rocket War. Olmert continues to talk with terrorists even as they rain rockets down on Israel and Israel buries yet another civilian killed by those rockets.

However, the worst comment of the day had to come from President Bush, who not only claimed that Olmert was an honest man, but that Abbas was a partner in peace. I don't think Bush could have been more hopelessly wrong than that.

526 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:27:03am

re: #519 Dianna

Keys and glasses. I put mine in the same place most of the time. My family knows about keys and glasses hunts.

What gets me is the constant disarray of the kitchen counter. I clean off so I do some task at at and turn around and it is filled with crap again.

527 sarah  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:27:24am

re: #523 Dianna
I just read about it today and I hadn't heard it before. that's why I was wondering if it had been mentioned.

528 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:27:30am

re: #522 Ward Cleaver

I intend to! I didn't even get out of bed until 6:30. I have a nap tentatively scheduled for about 10.

529 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:27:31am

re: #399 wahabicorridor

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Saved to my recipe file and printed.

/they cancelled the conference call. WOO HOO! Manure management before noon is a bit much to take

You are most welcome. Nothing better than sourdough bread. Except sourdough rolls. And sourdough pancakes :)

530 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:27:35am

re: #521 Ben Hur

BOKER ORR!

531 lawhawk  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:27:47am

re: #520 sarah

Barr might get a fraction of a percent - but certainly will not affect the overall race. He's a nonfactor at best.

532 sojerofgod  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:27:54am

re: #519 Dianna
Heh, the "hide in plain sight" rule works great around my house. Some times i think I could put an elephant on the kitchen counter and they'd walk right past it!

533 sarah  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:28:21am

re: #531 lawhawk
Ah, ok. Thanks lawhawk. I figured, but I didn't know that he was even considering a bid.

534 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:28:23am

re: #502 hans ze beeman

Mazel tov!

535 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:28:41am

re: #519 Dianna

The keys must have a home!

Around here, it's the "plain sight" rule. If you can't find it, it's in plain sight, you just kept walking past it.

One of my sisters is notorious for losing her keys and then literally losing her mind trying to find them - even when they are on one of those plastic cords dangling from her wrist. :)

536 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:28:46am

re: #526 ggt

Supposedly, the kitchen is the Male's domain. However, when I can't take it any more, I go in and clean up.

It happens more and more often.

537 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:29:17am

re: #520 sarah

Has this been mentioned?

We have another presidential candiate?

I posted it awhile back when it was still a *rumor* Rep. Barr wouldn't deny. So now he's made it official...he's the latest in a long line of Libertarian losers.

/wow. Alliteration, without really trying.

538 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:29:29am

re: #526 ggt

What gets me is the constant disarray of the kitchen counter. I clean off so I do some task at at and turn around and it is filled with crap again.

Tell me about it. We each have our own clutter counters on either side of the fridge. Where does he put his stuff?

On the island.

AND WHAT'S UP WITH NOT PUTTING DISHEDS IN THE DISHWASHER?

539 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:29:38am

re: #527 sarah

Good morning!

Someone's probably mentioned it - but I certainly hadn't run across it.

540 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:29:41am

Wow - it appears that the "undocumented workers" (IF they are undcoumented) did know what they were doing after all - this damn near 50' dead tree is suddenly history! And they only bounced it off our roof three times! LOL!

541 Ben Hur  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:30:05am

re: #504 itellu3times


The main reason was lack of television.

542 Alouette  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:30:09am

re: #498 vxbush

My husband's office is the basement, and I'm very glad it's down there and out of sight. :D

My husband's office is in the garage. It used to be in the basement but he smoked down there and it circulated through the rest of the house. The basement office had to be abandoned.

When I sent him down to clean it for Pesach there was a dead mouse in the middle of the floor!

543 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:30:11am

re: #535 galloping granny

What I hate is when I am looking for my glasses and they are already on my face. Seems I'd realize I am able to see. no?

544 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:30:39am

See no jihad, hear no jihad, speak no jihad [Link: michellemalkin.com...]

545 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:30:43am

re: #535 galloping granny

Oh, that's just so embarrassing!

546 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:31:28am

re: #538 wahabicorridor

Hubby can look at the clutter all over the house, but wants the junk drawer organized. The one place that is suppossed to, by design, be messy.

547 Ben Hur  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:32:10am

re: #530 WriterMom


The countdown continues.

Flying to Eretz on Friday.

I keep saying over and over again, "Path of least resistance, path of least resistance."

548 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:32:27am

re: #540 realwest

Hey rw, I've seen 'em cut both sides of the tree --all has to do with how they want it to fall. Glad I don't have to do it.

549 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:32:34am

re: #475 tfc3rid Not to mention the fact that while the Cowboy was in office, AFTER 9/11 there have been no siginficant terrorist attacks on the US. NONE.
Wonder how well the Obamination would do with that? And even if he came out and said he was a Muslim, it wouldn't necessarily help, as we've all seen Muslims killing other Muslims by the truck loads!

550 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:33:05am

re: #538 wahabicorridor

Tell me about it. We each have our own clutter counters on either side of the fridge. Where does he put his stuff?

On the island.

AND WHAT'S UP WITH NOT PUTTING DISHEDS IN THE DISHWASHER?

Just because women are now "liberated" and expected to work "real" jobs does not in the least mean that men load the dishwasher.

551 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:33:27am

So, back up to the poem at the top, time to stir the pot... ;)

I'm a fairly conservative Christian and I've been reading a book on the topic of origins and discussing this with the authors. They have Phd.'s from Harvard and MIT respectively in hard sciences and they both firmly believe in a Creator. They, like me, believe that the earth is very old but that God created the earth and man in His own image and nothing they've studied has caused them to doubt that. They have serious opponents on both sides of the debate but when the "7 dayers" hear them speak on the glory of God in creation and that they have more appreciation of His work than when they started, they at least realize that they are serious about their Christianity. They both have many colleagues that don't buy their premise, but as scientists are very curious and not at all hostile to looking at their research. They also know some hostile athiests who don't even know that they have a world-view that they see the world through and are very dismissive. They are trying to bridge the gap a little and dial back the hostility.

552 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:33:30am

re: #535 galloping granny

One of my sisters is notorious for losing her keys

Hubby is notorious for mis-placing his cell phone. I taught him the 'call the phone and listen for the ring' trick.

The other day he came home from running errands. Honey, look! I upgraded my cell phone! This one only vibrates!

I didn't say anything. I'm working on sainthood.

553 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:34:12am

re: #538 wahabicorridor

Oh, good point.

It brings to mind that Sunday's dishes, which I at least rinsed, are sitting on the counter. I guess I'd better load the dishwasher.

I must earn my nap on my mental health day!

554 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:34:29am

re: #543 ggt

What I hate is when I am looking for my glasses and they are already on my face. Seems I'd realize I am able to see. no?

One would think, but I have done that a million times, though I'm usually wearing them on top of my head. What I really hated was when I was younger and had much worse eyesight and could not see to find the things if they weren't on my face.

555 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:34:45am

re: #547 Ben Hur

Are you going to Jerusalem at all? If you are, I have only two words for you:

Stekiyat Chatzot (and get the meorav).

Foodgasm.

556 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:34:52am

re: #537 Grammy Cracker

many of the Libertarians (not all) that I know seem to be middle-aged pot-heads who want to justify their addiction.

Ayn Rand said Liberatarians were anarchists. In their cases, I can see her point.

557 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:34:57am
James Carville has been one of Hillary Clinton's most energetic defenders, but on Monday he all but declared Barack Obama will become the Democratic nominee for president.

Speaking to students at Furman University in Greenville, South Carolina, Carville argued Clinton should stay in through the final nominating contest in early June, but said the Democratic tide appears to be moving in Obama's direction.

"I still hear some dogs barking," Carville said, according to The State newspaper. "I'm for Senator Clinton, but I think the great likelihood is that Obama will be the nominee."

[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

558 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:35:10am

re: #548 ggt Hi ggt! I'm glad I didn't have to do it either, but only cause I'm no longer a manual labor kinda guy - too tired and too weak all the time.
But they did cut it down nice and neat as you please!

559 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:35:16am

re: #549 realwest

Not to mention the fact that while the Cowboy was in office, AFTER 9/11 there have been no siginficant terrorist attacks on the US. NONE.
Wonder how well the Obamination would do with that? And even if he came out and said he was a Muslim, it wouldn't necessarily help, as we've all seen Muslims killing other Muslims by the truck loads!

Come on realwest... We ALL know that's because there is no REAL terrorist threat to the US!

560 zmdavid  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:35:55am

The poem at the top implies evolution, but it also implies reincarnation.

561 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:36:08am

re: #559 tfc3rid

Except for our own government!

/

562 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:36:12am

re: #552 wahabicorridor

Hubby is notorious for mis-placing his cell phone. I taught him the 'call the phone and listen for the ring' trick.

The other day he came home from running errands. Honey, look! I upgraded my cell phone! This one only vibrates!

I didn't say anything. I'm working on sainthood.

ROFLMAO! I wonder how soon he will learn that the calling the cell phone trick does not work when the phone only vibrates?

I wouldn't say anything either, but I have no idea how you are goind to keep a straight face the first time he can't find the phone.

563 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:36:28am
564 katemaclaren  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:36:54am

re: #513 ggt

He doesn't talk, either?

565 Ben Hur  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:37:50am

MoveOn's 'Lifelong Republican' One Sharp Trooper

I don't know if Mr. Weiler is a lifelong Republican as he claims. I do know that if the Associated Press is accurate in its reporting, he must have been an extraordinary serviceman.

"He served in the Air Force from 1983 to 1989, leaving the service as a master sergeant," according to the AP. Is that not amazing? The Air Force Enlisted Promotions Fact Sheet shows promotion to Master Sergeant (E-7) requires eight years in the service. According to Military.com, "The average service wide active duty time for advancement to the rank of Master Sergeant is 17.06 years."

They never learn.

566 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:38:27am

re: #550 galloping granny HEY! You are - with all due respect - greatly overgeneralizing - I ALWAYS fill the dishwasher and wash the pots and pans. And I did with both of my two ex-wives, as well.
And I'm, if anything, more likely to pick up the vacuum cleaner than either of my former wives and my Mom (although in all fairness, my Mom does ALL the cooking and laundry and lots of the food shopping)!

567 katemaclaren  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:38:35am

re: #551 Spenser (with an S)

Oh Spenser with an S. Oh NOOOOOOOooooooooo. Just when I thought it was safe...

568 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:38:54am
President's Advisor and IRI Ambassador in Syria said here Monday occupying regime of Holy Qods is currently in its worst ever condition, getting weaker with passage of each day, and moving towards extinction.


According to IRNA correspondent in Syria, Hojjatoleslam Seyyed Ahmad Moussavi made the comment here on Monday night at the opening ceremony of a conference titled "Repatriation, A Sacred And Legitimate Right", sponsored by Damascus based Arab Writers Union.

Moussavi added, "Israel has ever since its establishment been serving the colonialist, and later on neo-colonialist Western powers as a tool for strengthening their hegemony in this sensitive region." The Iranian diplomat added, "The US President assumes that the entire nations in this region are waiting for him to issue commands and obey them, but the Americans are today beginning to realize that not only that has been a simple minded assumption, but also the US and Israeli plots for the region are facing humiliating defeats in the region one after the other."
Referring to the existence of numerous conflicts and difficulties within the Islamic and Arab worlds, he said, "Despite all those problems and challenges, the root cause of most of which is US and Israeli plots, the victory of Muslims in the long run is easy to predict."
The Islamic Republic of Iran's ambassador to Syria emphasized that freedom and liberation cannot be achieved without tolerating the hardships of Jihad (sacred defensive war), resistance, and unity

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

569 Golem Akbar  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:38:57am

re: #470 Grammy Cracker

Most true geniuses are like that; savants, almost. Frank Lloyd Wright comes to mind. Incredible architect and visionary, horrible human being.


It's a long list. You are so right. Einstein was a nasty guy, bad husband, poor father, etc.

And how about one of the most brilliant musicians in the last 150 years -- Wagner. Brilliant composer of wonderful music, but an anti-semite like no other.

As a youth, I thought Bertrand Russell was a genius. Then I learned what a nasty demeaning human being he was, and I was really shaken. Today, I don't think so highly of his works, either.

570 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:39:07am

I'm gonna go to bed early because I've got internship work tomorrow. I'll leave you with this quote from where-the-hell-has-she-been-since-the-cyclone pro-democracy activist Aung San Suu Kyi...

It is not power that corrupts but fear. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it and fear of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it.

571 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:40:16am

re: #550 galloping granny

Just because women are now "liberated" and expected to work "real" jobs does not in the least mean that men load the dishwasher.

Ha! Our new dishwasher has a cabinet-matching wood panel on the front, and I tease Grandpa Cracker that I should never have done that, because now he can't find it! It only took 20 years, but he now at least puts his dishes in the sink... baby steps....

Well, dear Lizards...the sun has come out, so my excuse for malingering is gone. Time to get something done, even if it's wrong....

Make it a GREAT day, y'all. BBL

572 Ben Hur  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:40:20am

re: #555 WriterMom

Are you going to Jerusalem at all? If you are, I have only two words for you:

Stekiyat Chatzot (and get the meorav).

Foodgasm.

Of course I am going to Jerusalem!

Where is Stekiyat Chatzot?

573 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:40:24am

re: #566 realwest

HEY! You are - with all due respect - greatly overgeneralizing - I ALWAYS fill the dishwasher and wash the pots and pans. And I did with both of my two ex-wives, as well.
And I'm, if anything, more likely to pick up the vacuum cleaner than either of my former wives and my Mom (although in all fairness, my Mom does ALL the cooking and laundry and lots of the food shopping)!

But YOU are the exception. And note that I said "just because. . . . does not mean", not "all men are total bums that are too lazy to bother to pick up their own dirty dishes!"

574 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:40:28am

re: #559 tfc3rid

That's right, Globul Warming is our biggest threat!

/

575 storagemanager  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:40:45am
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad here on Tuesday voiced readiness for debate with the US presidential candidates.

Speaking to domestic and foreign reporters, he said "Under a just and fair situation we are ready to hold talks with anyone except the Zionist regime."
"During my visit to New York last year, I voiced my readiness to hold debate with President George W. Bush but since his tenure is over I now declare that we are ready for debate with all US presidential candidates on global developments," said the president.

All nations welcome talks and dialogue but big powers have changed the atmosphere in favor of war instead of dialogue, said the president.


[Link: www2.irna.com...]

576 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:40:54am

re: #562 galloping granny

I wouldn't say anything either, but I have no idea how you are goind to keep a straight face the first time he can't find the phone.

heh. You have no idea how evil I can be. He made what he thought was a joke about putting the phone between his legs. I said

Then what? You get an idea?

Why I love my husband. He loves tough broads.

577 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:41:32am

re: #564 katemaclaren

That he does.

578 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:42:17am
579 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:43:32am

re: #565 Ben Hur

MoveOn's 'Lifelong Republican' One Sharp Trooper

They never learn.

My brother was in the Army for 13 years, and got out as an E-5. I wonder about this guy's service record.

580 ggt  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:43:45am

I gotta go folks,

Have a great day!

581 Ben Hur  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:44:58am
582 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:45:12am

re: #566 realwest

I don't have a dishwasher... I am the dishwasher... Love filling up my left side sink with hot water, dawn and bleach... I actually enjoy doing the dishes...

And I love cooking... It's stress relief...

583 incanus  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:46:11am

re: #214 stead63

That's ok my Dallas Stars cant seem to win either...

Those were my Stars until you bastards stole them ...

584 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:46:17am

re: #582 tfc3rid

I don't have a dishwasher... I am the dishwasher... Love filling up my left side sink with hot water, dawn and bleach... I actually enjoy doing the dishes...

And I love cooking... It's stress relief...

The agreement in our house is the hubby cooks and I do dishes. He hates doing dishes, and I hate cooking. It works out well.

585 Ben Hur  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:46:20am

re: #579 Ward Cleaver

My brother was in the Army for 13 years, and got out as an E-5. I wonder about this guy's service record.

I am not familiar with US Military ranks - I don't know what e-5 means.

But now I have a better idea about what TFK's post was about.

586 jcm  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:46:35am

McCain's little Gorebul Warming speech yesterday in Portland, OR, kinda pissed me off.

I sent him a long list of GW facts he should consider before declaring unilaterally the "facts" are established. That before riding the Gramscian stalking horse of GW he needs to consider the whole picture.

Tons of links.

At least I feel better.

587 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:46:41am

re: #572 Ben Hur

On Rehov Aggripas, right by the shuk...if you are at the bottom of Agrippas looking toward town, it's on the right hand side. The meorav is great, but if you (like me) don't like the mix of meats then the chicken breast is also amazing.

Also, the best hamburger I have ever had at "Burgers Bar", in the German Colony. Will you have a car?

588 incanus  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:47:07am

re: #204 infidelia

The Chinese have a true gift for this sort of thing, LOL!

Except they are Japanese.

589 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:47:22am

re: #575 storagemanager

And Obama replies... All right, come on over to the White House, we'll have some waffles...

590 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:47:52am

re: #578 taxfreekiller

#565

ya, but

in 1966 with our EE degree's the Navy took us in as E-5's and E-6's
first day , they needed tech help for Igloo White and attached us
to it and had the S.O.G. units deliver us and the Koreans run point
for us. The 20 year E-5's did not like us all that much, they called
us IPO's Instant Petty Officers.

Same thing happened in all of the services during Vietnam. Except maybe the Marines. But during the 80's they were downsizing the military in a huge way and people that had been in for 15+ years were shown the door. NOBODY anywhere made E7 in under 7 years.

And another thing. He was in "from 83 to 89." The Air Force has never taken draftees and they have only 4 & 6 year enlistments. The dates do not add up. Or he got the boot.

591 tfc3rid  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:48:48am

re: #586 jcm

Yeah, his green-ness really is worrisome... Of course, right now, it seems very difficult to be taken seriously if you don't worship at the altar of the Church of the Goracle...

It is dangerous from a standpoint of reducung our reliance on foreign energy sources...

592 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:49:25am

re: #565 Ben Hur That's cause a) they've never actually served in the military and b) are too stupid and/or lazy to research their material!

BTW - Mom said just now that Fox News had some bit on about an active duty trooper (not sure what branch) running for Congress while he's still in the service. He's Black and in Georgia. Some stupid moonbat (sorry for the redundancy) said that was just fine with her. Someone else pointed out that you can't run for congress or other political office while you are on active duty it's a violation of the UCMJ. Mom said the second person was white and in a uniform - again, don't know which branch. Said second woman was loudly booed by the assembled masses, but she's right.
Military is subservient to civilian authority - always has been and, AFAIK should always be so; you can't therefore be both active duty Military and an Elected member of Congress.

593 katemaclaren  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:49:31am

re: #582 tfc3rid

I don't have a dishwasher... I am the dishwasher... Love filling up my left side sink with hot water, dawn and bleach... I actually enjoy doing the dishes...

And I love cooking... It's stress relief...

Cm'on uh my house, then, cause I swear if I had a house built, there'd be no kitchen-only one of those vacuum tubes to the nearest caterer. I'm so over cooking and cleaning. I'd say the only thing domestic about me was that I was born in this country, but 10 years ago, I found out that I was adopted--born in Scotland where they don't use dishes. ;-) Just a knife and a wooden cup for the whisky. No wait. They don't need a cup, either.

594 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:49:37am

re: #551 Spenser (with an S)

Since you stirred the pot, I'll keep stirring (just a little...otherwise the sauce gets too thick and burns):

that God created the earth and man in His own image

I'm curious, how do you interpret the phrase "in His own image"?

595 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:50:14am

re: #590 galloping granny

Interesting.

Why do they lie? Or did someone just not understand what they were told, and wrote it down wrong? That's easy enough, considering how many moveon types are flatly anti-military, and never bother to learn anything about it.

596 yochanan  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:50:43am

re: #269 Grammy Cracker

There's a wee bit o' the Scot, and a healthy dose of Swede thrown in. I'm your basic white Anglo-Saxon mutt.

one of my grand parents was from Londonderry and he wasn't car. or prot. there is a third option you know.

597 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:50:44am

re: #590 galloping granny

they have only 4 & 6 year enlistments

Woo! Nice catch granny, very nice..............

598 Ben Hur  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:51:11am

re: #587 WriterMom

On Rehov Aggripas, right by the shuk...if you are at the bottom of Agrippas looking toward town, it's on the right hand side. The meorav is great, but if you (like me) don't like the mix of meats then the chicken breast is also amazing.

Also, the best hamburger I have ever had at "Burgers Bar", in the German Colony. Will you have a car?


Yes.

599 alegrias  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:51:22am

re: #514 paxnhymn

did she have her own teeth? Well ok then!

:-D

* * *
Einstein marrying his own relative just goes to show you genetics, like faith, were not his strong suit either!

600 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:51:22am

re: #573 galloping granny " And note that I said "just because. . . . does not mean", not "all men are total bums that are too lazy to bother to pick up their own dirty dishes!"

Picky, picky, picky - we all know what you meant!
ROTFLMAO!

601 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:52:55am

re: #592 realwest

That's cause a) they've never actually served in the military and b) are too stupid and/or lazy to research their material!

BTW - Mom said just now that Fox News had some bit on about an active duty trooper (not sure what branch) running for Congress while he's still in the service. He's Black and in Georgia. Some stupid moonbat (sorry for the redundancy) said that was just fine with her. Someone else pointed out that you can't run for congress or other political office while you are on active duty it's a violation of the UCMJ. Mom said the second person was white and in a uniform - again, don't know which branch. Said second woman was loudly booed by the assembled masses, but she's right.
Military is subservient to civilian authority - always has been and, AFAIK should always be so; you can't therefore be both active duty Military and an Elected member of Congress.

It has nothing to do with being in the military. All federal employees are prohibited from political activity on any day that they are paid for their services by the government. For military that is all the time. If you work for the post office, you cannot go hold a political sign except on Sunday and your day off - out of uniform.

In truth, Obama was in violation of federal law when he held consultations regarding his campaign in his Senate office. (There are pictures of the meeting.)

602 jcm  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:52:56am

re: #591 tfc3rid

Yeah, his green-ness really is worrisome... Of course, right now, it seems very difficult to be taken seriously if you don't worship at the altar of the Church of the Goracle...

It is dangerous from a standpoint of reducung our reliance on foreign energy sources...

A difference we call all make is to start call our Senators about S. 2191: America's Climate Security Act of 2007.

This bill if enacted would fundamentally ration energy use in the United States, stifle economic growth and the ability to really respond to real issues of economics and environment.

603 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:53:04am

re: #595 Dianna

Interesting.

Why
do they lie? Or did someone just not understand what they were told,
and wrote it down wrong? That's easy enough, considering how many
moveon types are flatly anti-military, and never bother to learn
anything about it.


I was reading an article in Wizard, which is the premiere magazine on comic books, about a comic book writer who faked being in the service so he could get the proper "cred" to write an anti-war comic series. When his fraud was uncovered, he was fired.

604 Ben Hur  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:54:10am

I assume this has been posted or threaded.

To the Readers of Little Green Footballs

I've written about the Swedish organization Expo before, but it seems I have to do so again. As most of my readers know, I have been involved, along with several others, in a very public debate with Charles Johnson of the major American "anti-Jihad" blog Little Green Footballs. If it can indeed be called a debate, I'm not so sure. I can personally testify that pretty much everybody on "my side" of this issue has been tired of it for a very long time. Yet recently LGF again publicly attacked Gates of Vienna and The Brussels Journal, and Johnson has continued posting negative remarks about the website Atlas Shrugs.

I was not mentioned by name, but since I publish essays regularly at GoV and TBJ and will probably publish occasionally at AS in the future, it is tempting to treat attacks on these websites as attacks on me personally. If I have been slow in responding, this is because I am so tired of this nonsense that the mere thought of getting involved once again almost makes me feel physically ill. After thinking about it, I have decided I will respond after all. First of all because it annoys me to see good, honorable and decent individuals being unfairly demonized in this way, but also because ignoring such attacks, which was my initial reaction, leaves the impression that you are an easy target for bullying. I'm not an easy target, and I will thus respond once again, against my better judgment, to give my side of the story.

605 AmeriDan  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:54:12am

Good morning (evening for me).

galloping granny and realwest, thank you for getting me in touch with LeePro the other day. We are now in serious planning stages for a Memphis Area Lizards Convention in the next month or so.

Please spread the word to anyone you know in the Memphis area, or just let us know the nic's. We know about gop_patriot, but not sure of the others. I know from several open threads that turn into barbecue threads that there are more of us out there.

606 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:54:19am

re: #603 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Micah Wright, by chance?

607 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:54:21am

re: #586 jcm Good on You! Even if it never gets read, he can't say the facts weren't presented to him!
I swear, I'm gonna vote for him for the reasons I stated somewhere up above, but boy I sure don't feel a whole lot of enthusiasm for doing it.

608 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:54:48am

re: #603 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I was reading an article in Wizard, which is the premiere magazine on comic books

Oh, come on, you don't really read it, you just carry it around under your arm to impress chicks.

/

609 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:55:19am

re: #601 galloping granny

Obama was in violation of federal law when he held consultations regarding his campaign in his Senate office.

He did WHAT? Dear lord, that is really basic. A first week staffer knows that one.

610 Miss Trixie  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:55:40am

re: #576 wahabicorridor

heh. You have no idea how evil I can be. He made what he thought was a joke about putting the phone between his legs. I said

Then what? You get an idea?

Why I love my husband. He loves tough broads.

Heh.

Years ago I lived with a man who thought the world revolved around his TV remote and would watch ANYTHING sports-like. Team Lithuania Left-Handed Floor Hockey, Kenyan Spear-Chuckers Proof of Manhood Contest and Midget Hacky-Sack Finals to name a few.

I drove me nuts and on one December day I arrived at home to find him tearing up the place looking for that bloody thing. I've never seen a man that close to tears before. Anyway, he was forced to get UP and change the channel EACH time and he was not amused. I thought it was hysterical!

On Christmas day his very last present was his remote that I wrapped two weeks before.

HA!

611 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:55:43am

re: #604 Ben Hur

Charles threaded that yesterday.

612 alegrias  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:56:12am

re: #518 wahabicorridor

You are a daddy and you didn't even send me an email! Congrats and hugs to mother and daughter.

We're fine. Agricultural policy has been fascinating w/all the global food issues.
The nic is blue'd, Dude, drop me a line..................

* * *
W. Corridor, a couple months back you were the first to say that food prices were rising.

& like you, I'm going to try baking german style bauernbrot, but just for fun!

613 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:56:28am

re: #590 galloping granny Uh, ok so I'm not a math wizzard, but I thought 83 to 89 was six years, no?

614 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:56:33am

Not your average gun camera footage: Easter Bunny Spotted In Iraq

615 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:57:19am

re: #610 Miss Trixie

Kenyan ___ ____

Yellow card, Trixie. Please watch it with that stuff.

616 zmdavid  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:57:24am

re: #594 Occasional Reader

My pot-stirring spinoff from last night only got 21 clicks and a -2 rating.
I found the Center for Inquiry in the footnotes of the wiki entry on the wedge strategy. They are the polar opposite of the Discovery Institute. They start from the assumption that God doesn't exist and work from there.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

617 1SG(ret)  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:57:30am

re: #592 realwest
Actually real, he is now in the NG, after serving on Active Duty in the Navy for 14 years. As a NG (not AGR, active guard or reserve) member he is eligible to run for office under UCMJ. The problem is with the state laws and Constitution of GA. The Sec of State for Ga has ruled he is eligible, but his opponent may challenge that ruling.
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618 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:57:48am

re: #594 Occasional Reader

I'm curious, how do you interpret the phrase "in His own image"?

Thanks, OR. Give me a harder one :)

OK, the way I'm coming down on this is that God's special revelation (the Bible) gives us what we need to know about Who and Why and God's general revelation (His creation) gives us what we need to know about What and How. So, with all the verses about man's relationship to God and the reasons we were created, etc. I believe man did not evolve out of the slime but was created approx. how we are now.

I'll check back in later to see how you think that sounds...

619 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:57:49am

re: #606 Dianna

Micah Wright, by chance?


I don't recall, but that sounds right.

620 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:57:54am

re: #595 Dianna

Interesting.

Why do they lie? Or did someone just not understand what they were told, and wrote it down wrong? That's easy enough, considering how many moveon types are flatly anti-military, and never bother to learn anything about it.

Padding the resume. Or figuring that since the DD214 is private that nobody will catch them - much like Jon Carry.

One other thing. The military does not and never has to my knowledge promoted somebody on their way out the door. So even if the guy had a single valid 6 year enlistment and just padded the dates a little bit, he would have had to have made E7 at least a year before his separation date - even in the Army, which has always been the loosest about things like that. So he wouldn't have made E7 in seven years - he would have done it in 5. And that is extremely unlikely.

Even during the Vietnam Era, promotion past E5 on a single enlistment in any of the services was highly unusual and E7 usually meant you were on your third.

621 Ben Hur  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:58:56am

re: #611 Dianna

Charles threaded that yesterday.

I figured.

622 jcm  Tue, May 13, 2008 7:59:04am

re: #607 realwest

Good on You! Even if it never gets read, he can't say the facts weren't presented to him!
I swear, I'm gonna vote for him for the reasons I stated somewhere up above, but boy I sure don't feel a whole lot of enthusiasm for doing it.

I'm voting for him. Not happily by any means. He's not going to surrender. His court appointments will be better than others by a long shot. And finally because I believe the core of his character, the core that was displayed during his military service will be what he relies on in a crises. Unfortunately that core is buried in the day to day politics of Washington.

623 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:00:19am

re: #609 wahabicorridor

He did WHAT? Dear lord, that is really basic. A first week staffer knows that one.

Yup. There are pictures of the meetings - or at least there were, if he hasn't cleaned those up too.

624 jcm  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:00:28am

re: #614 Killgore Trout

Not your average gun camera footage: Easter Bunny Spotted In Iraq

We're goin' wabbit huntin'!

625 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:00:32am

re: #618 Spenser (with an S)

I'm still not sure you addressed my question, per se. What do you think "in His image" means? Specifically, is it meant to mean a) that God sorta kinda looks like us, b) that God created is in accordance with "his image" meaning the image he had in mind for us, or c) something else (please specify).

626 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:00:35am

re: #594 Occasional Reader Silly question, it means He looks like me - or rather I look like Him.
Next!

BTW - I appreciated your responses on the Obama/Israel wound and sore thread last night, but didn't even get to read the entire thread. I do think Charles is right that Obama is gonna be a loooong way from a good friend to Israel, but not based on that interview.

627 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:00:35am

re: #598 Ben Hur

Then I have a day trip recommendation, but I'd prefer to e-mail it because I may write about it in the future. If you want-drop me a line...if not no worries.

628 alegrias  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:00:37am

re: #586 jcm

McCain's little Gorebul Warming speech yesterday in Portland, OR, kinda pissed me off.

I sent him a long list of GW facts he should consider before declaring unilaterally the "facts" are established. That before riding the Gramscian stalking horse of GW he needs to consider the whole picture.

Tons of links.

At least I feel better.

* * *
Sadly, some voters only care about the environment issue, they are single voters who may be swayed to vote for McCain or conservatives, if Republicans demonstrate concern & willingness to address environment issues.

We need Americans to vote to preserve their country AND the environment, in that order~!

McCain advocates market-based solutions to environment issues, which is better than top down, UN-dictated laws.

629 Ben Hur  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:00:51am

Rugby final tickets and a complimentary cooking lesson with a celebrity chef: How the freebies flood in for the Beeb's top people

Those poor Palestinians, he thought has he licked the grease of his stubby fingers backstage.

630 rawmuse  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:00:55am

re: #614 Killgore Trout

Not your average gun camera footage: Easter Bunny Spotted In Iraq

A classic distraction!

631 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:01:43am

re: #625 Occasional Reader

OR there are only two choices a) George Burns or b) big white dude with flowy white beard.

DUH.

632 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:01:51am

re: #624 jcm

I'm so used to watching those vids that I had kept expecting to see the explosion.

633 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:01:54am

re: #608 Occasional Reader

Oh, come on, you don't really read it, you just carry it around under your arm to impress chicks.

/


Heh. A while back I was having dinner with a girl I've been pursuing & her Dad is a big Carl Barks (creator of Scrooge McDuck) fan. I told her that when I go to Wizard World (big Philly comic convention) I'll keep an eye out for Carl Barks first editions for her. I thought, "I think this is the first time that a guy will be going to a comic book convention to impress a beautiful woman."

634 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:01:56am

re: #610 Miss Trixie

On Christmas day his very last present was his remote that I wrapped two weeks before.

I quit. You get the 'evil' title.

ROTFLMAO!

Off for a smoke break.

635 AmeriDan  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:02:16am

re: #620 galloping granny

"promotion past E5 on a single enlistment in any of the services was highly unusual and E7 usually meant you were on your third".

This Navy Vet will vouch for that.

636 Ben Hur  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:02:30am

re: #624 jcm

We're goin' wabbit huntin'!


WTF?

It's Farfour!

637 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:02:39am

re: #624 jcm

We're goin' wabbit huntin'!

Duck season!

638 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:02:41am

re: #625 Occasional Reader

I'm still not sure you addressed my question, per se. What do you think "in His image" means? Specifically, is it meant to mean a) that God sorta kinda looks like us, b) that God created is in accordance with "his image" meaning the image he had in mind for us, or c) something else (please specify).

My guess is that would depend a bit on the sentence structure in the original Hebrew. However, if it meant (b), I would think one of the translations of Genesis would have included that phrase "his image [for man]", so I'm guessing it's not that. But I must admit, I like that option. It's easier for me to grasp than (c) and seems more likely than (a).

639 rawmuse  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:03:19am

re: #637 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's a hassenfeffer.

640 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:03:23am

re: #604 Ben Hur Yup Ben, had a thread on it yesterday I believe.
Didn't get to read it but saw it there on the side bar.

641 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:03:26am

re: #614 Killgore Trout

Not your average gun camera footage: Easter Bunny Spotted In Iraq

Looks more like Bugs Bunny to me. Which makes sense... he was probably recalled to active duty.

642 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:05:17am

re: #619 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

There was more to it than what you picked up, but Micah Wright did, indeed, get caught lying. It was a very long-lived lie.

643 jcm  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:05:44am

re: #628 alegrias


McCain advocates market-based solutions to environment issues, which is better than top down, UN-dictated laws.

After his speech yesterday, he's shifting away toward the S. 2191 solution. While not UN, it's still top down, and is based on unsound science, and heavy restrictions on energy use. Similar to EU implemented schemes which are not controlling emission.

644 jcm  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:06:42am

re: #632 Killgore Trout

I'm so used to watching those vids that I had kept expecting to see the explosion.

I am not going to fire a $100,000 missile and hit a rabbit in the butt!

645 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:06:54am

re: #617 1SG(ret) But suppose he wins and then his NG Unit is called up to active duty?! Won't either his state be short one congresscritter or his unit short one member?!

646 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:07:34am

re: #625 Occasional Reader

OK, I've got to scoot, but I'd like to discuss this with someone. Is your nic lit up? But, I feel we are broken (by the fall) but similar to what He originally created. He wanted someone He could commune with and who had free will so any love we gave would be real and I believe that we have built-in characters similar to His. Creativity, compassion, love of order over disorder, love of beauty, etc..

647 Miss Trixie  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:07:35am

re: #615 Occasional Reader

Yellow card, Trixie. Please watch it with that stuff.

Huh?

Nothing was meant by that, OR.

648 AmeriDan  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:07:37am

re: #637 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Duck season!

It's raccoon season here. One (or more) has decided to move into my attic, but I've made them a nice dinner of their favorite foods, all they have to do is walk into the trap to get it.

649 galloping granny  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:07:40am

re: #645 realwest

But suppose he wins and then his NG Unit is called up to active duty?! Won't either his state be short one congresscritter or his unit short one member?!

There is already at least one Congressman who is in the National Guard.

650 Dianna  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:08:25am

re: #640 realwest

I caught the end of it. It seems that people are very discouraged about Europe.

651 itellu3times  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:09:01am

Does Science Make Belief In God Obsolete?
John Templeton Foundation
essays by Michael Shermer (skeptic), William Phillips (physics), Steven Pinker (psychology), Christoph Schonborn (friar), Christopher Hitchens (aethiest), Robert Sapolsky (biology), Kenneth Miller (biology), Stuart Kauffman (lunatic).

652 Ben Hur  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:10:03am
653 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:10:05am

re: #631 WriterMom ROFL! Well I, naturally, liked MY answer at #626, but have to confess yours is better!

654 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:10:30am

re: #647 Miss Trixie

Huh?

Nothing was meant by that, OR.

I'm sure nothing was meant by it, but please keep in mind that that particular term has certain connotations. Best to avoid it.

655 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:10:39am

re: #643 jcm

Be assured, the agricultural people are going to go after this one. Just as soon as we get done w/the Farm bill.

656 sngnsgt  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:10:52am

Epilepsy Awareness Week is 11 – 17 May, 2008. If you know someone with Epilepsy, give 'em a hug.

657 alegrias  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:11:13am

re: #643 jcm

After his speech yesterday, he's shifting away toward the S. 2191 solution. While not UN, it's still top down, and is based on unsound science, and heavy restrictions on energy use. Similar to EU implemented schemes which are not controlling emission.

* * *
Yes, thank you. Kyoto eco-schemes implementation makes many liberals weak in the knees, and we need their votes to defend our country.

McCain like California Governor Arnold, have many green constituents who ONLY care about the environment.

Conservation is a conservative value, as is oil drilling & energy capture to increase energy supply.

Republicans and conservatives ought to be conversant on this subject, because for some people, it's the only religion.

658 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:11:54am

re: #646 Spenser (with an S)

Sheesh, you're wordier than us lawyers! Short answer: Do we literally look like God, or no?

659 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:13:01am

re: #649 galloping granny So, Okay, my question still stands: suppose his NG Unit is called up, what does he do?

660 zmdavid  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:13:55am

If we enter into an international treaty to limit greenhouse gasses, are we willing to go to war to enforce it on other nations? Otherwise other countries will sign the treaty and ignore it.

661 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:14:00am

re: #657 alegrias

* * *


Conservation
is a conservative value, as is oil drilling & energy capture to increase energy supply.

Republicans and conservatives ought to be conversant on this subject, because for some people, it's the only religion.

How alliterative!

662 alegrias  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:14:51am

re: #655 wahabicorridor

Be assured, the agricultural people are going to go after this one. Just as soon as we get done w/the Farm bill.

* * *
W. Corridor, do you have any suggestions for the DC Arboretum which falls under the Agriculture Department but whose private fans can't seem to generate non-federal money to keep up the place?

The Arboretum of Washington DC is so lovely, yet undervalued & undervisited, relative to other park-like spaces & Smithsonian Museums that can sell merchandise to make a buck.

Just askin', since you know about Ag dept. funding.

663 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:15:35am

re: #658 Occasional Reader Ah, I see you skipped over my #626, but the short answer is Yes.
Now prove me wrong, counselor!

664 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:16:47am

re: #663 realwest

Ah, I see you skipped over my #626, but the short answer is Yes.
Now prove me wrong, counselor!

Okay, so God has (for instance) nostrils.

Why?

665 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:16:54am

re: #660 zmdavid Bigger question: will China and Russia sign on?
IIRC, China is the single largest polluter of the earth on the earth.

666 Kenneth  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:17:09am

US troops to help 'deluded' British in southern Iraq

"There's going to be a whole new approach when we send troops down there," said the US officer. "We won't take the self-delusional route of convincing ourselves that the Iraqis are ready to fight but then standing back while they fall apart.
668 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:17:33am

re: #664 Occasional Reader

You are so dense.

God boogers. What else?

669 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:17:47am

re: #664 Occasional Reader So he can sniff out Atheists and smite them with the jawbone of a Democrat! Er, Ass!

670 AmeriDan  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:18:11am

re: #660 zmdavid

If we enter into an international treaty to limit greenhouse gasses, are we willing to go to war to enforce it on other nations? Otherwise other countries will sign the treaty and ignore it.

Ignore a treaty, surely you jest!

It's like you believe that other countries and the UN are like our Liberal friends here. Words over deeds etc.

/

671 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:18:32am

re: #612 alegrias

W. Corridor, a couple months back you were the first to say that food prices were rising.

Oops, almost missed you there, alegrias!

The only advice I can give you is to eat as low on the food chain as possible as often as possible. I've found two good grain/veg protein sources.

quinoh is a barley-like grain that cooks up a bit like rice. It's very bland if cooked w/just water, so I use strong liquids and lots of spices.

edemame - green soybeans. They're in the frozen food section, sometimes in the pod, but sometimes shelled. They cook up like limas w/o the mealy texture and are really good.

Food prices are not going to come down for awhile if at all. As much as I hate biofuels that use diverted crop/cropland, the most culpable factor is the price of oil, and the globalisation of western diets/lifestyle.

672 1SG(ret)  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:18:45am

re: #659 realwest
Real, The answer to your question is that he is required to serve if called up, unless released from deployment by the AG (state Adjutant General). The original question was, was he eligible to run for office.
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673 alegrias  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:19:19am

re: #665 realwest

Bigger question: will China and Russia sign on?
IIRC, China is the single largest polluter of the earth on the earth.

* * *
Biggest question: Who seriously believes Communists signatures to "international" laws mean anything anywhere anytime?

674 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:19:57am

re: #660 zmdavid

are we willing to go to war to enforce it on other nations?

Buying up the carbon credits we would need to go to war would bankrupt us.

Yes, people, that's the real hidden agenda.

675 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:20:14am

re: #658 Occasional Reader

Sheesh, you're wordier than us lawyers! Short answer: Do we literally look like God, or no?

The relevant hebrew word is tsehlem, and the Hebrew lexicon I found gave the following meanings:

1. images (of tumours, mice, heathen gods) 2. image, likeness (of resemblance) 3. mere, empty, image, semblance (fig.)

Notice meaning 3 is a figurative meaning, and it may be the one appropriate for the verse. The King James gives the verse as follows:

Gen. 1:26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

676 harrisam  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:21:44am

This poem has been a family favorite all my life. Love you posted the first part. Here's the rest.

EVOLUTION

by Langdon Smith


When you were a tadpole and I was a fish
In the Paleozoic time,
And side by side on the ebbing tide
We sprawled through the ooze and slime,
Or skittered with many a caudal flip
Through the depths of the Cambrian fen,
My heart was rife with the joy of life,
For I loved you even then.

Mindless we lived and mindless we loved
And mindless at last we died;
And deep in the rift of the Caradoc drift
We slumbered side by side.
The world turned on in the lathe of time,
The hot lands heaved amain,
Till we caught our breath from the womb of death
And crept into light again.

We were amphibians, scaled and tailed,
And drab as a dead man's hand;
We coiled at ease 'neath the dripping trees
Or trailed through the mud and the sand.
Croaking and blind with three clawed feet
Writing a language dumb,
With never a spark in the empty dark
To hint at the life to come.

Yet happy we lived and happy we loved,
And happy we died once more;
Our forms were rolled in the clinging mold
Of a Neocomian shore,
The eons came and the eons fled
And the sleep that wrapped us fast
Was riven away in a newer day
And the night of death was past.

Then light and swift through the jungle trees
We swung in our airy flights,
Or breathed in the balms of the fronded palms
In the hush of the moonless nights;
And, oh! what beautiful years were there
When our hearts clung each to each;
When life was filled and our senses thrilled
In the first faint dawn of speech.

Thus life by life and love by love
We passed through the cycles strange,
And breath by breath and death by death
We followed the chain of change.
Till there came a time in the law of life
When over the nursing side
The shadows broke and the soul awoke
In a strange, dim dream of God.

I was thewed like an Auroch bull
And tusked like a great cave bear;
And you my sweet from head to feet
Were gowned in your glorious hair.
Deep in the gloom of a fireless cave,
When the night fell o'er the plain
And the moon hung red over the river bed
We mumbled the bones of the slain.

I flaked a bone to a cutting edge
And shaped it with brutish craft;
I broke a shank from the woodland bank
And fitted it head and haft;
Then I hid me close to the reedy tarn
Were the mammoth came to drink;
Through the brawn and bone I drove the stone
And slew him upon the brink.

Loud I howled through the moonlit wastes,
Loud answered our kith and kin;
From west and east to the crimson feast
The clan came tramping in.
O'er joint and gristle and paddled hoof
We fought and clawed and tore,
And cheek by jowl with many a growl
We talked that marvel o'er.

I carved that fight an a reindeer bone
With rude and hairy hand;
I pictured his fall on the cavern wall
That men might understand.
For we lived by blood and the right of might
Ere human laws were drawn,
And the age of sin did not begin
Till our brutish tush were gone.

And that was a million years ago
In a time that no man knows;
Yet here tonight in the mellow light
We sit at Delmonico's.
Your eyes are as deep as the Devon springs.
Your hair is as dark as jet,
Your years are few, your life is new;
Your soul untried, and yet-

Our trail is on the Kimmeridge clay
And the scarp of the Purbeck flags;
We have left our bones on the Bagshot stones
And deep in the Corline crags;
Our love is old our lives are old
And death shall come amain:
Should it come today, what man may say
We shall not live again?

God wrought our souls from the Tremadoc beds
And furnished them wings to fly;
He sowed our spawn in the world's dim dawn,
And I know that it shall not die,
Though cities have sprung above the graves
Where the crook-bone men make war
And the oxwain creaks o'er the buried caves
Where mummied mammoths are.

Then as we linger at luncheon here
O'er many a dainty dish.
Let us drink anew to the time when you
Were a tadpole and I was a fish.

677 zmdavid  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:21:53am

re: #670 AmeriDan

Actually, I misspoke, they will only ignore their obligations under such a treaty, they will always be harping on ours. So saying they will ignore the treaty is only half of what I meant.

678 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:23:23am
679 Alouette  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:24:01am

re: #631 WriterMom

OR there are only two choices a) George Burns or b) big white dude with flowy white beard.

DUH.

You forgot Morgan Freeman.

680 alegrias  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:24:21am

re: #671 wahabicorridor

Oops, almost missed you there, alegrias!

The only advice I can give you is to eat as low on the food chain as possible as often as possible. I've found two good grain/veg protein sources.

quinoh is a barley-like grain that cooks up a bit like rice. It's very bland if cooked w/just water, so I use strong liquids and lots of spices.

edemame - green soybeans. They're in the frozen food section, sometimes in the pod, but sometimes shelled. They cook up like limas w/o the mealy texture and are really good.

Food prices are not going to come down for awhile if at all. As much as I hate biofuels that use diverted crop/cropland, the most culpable factor is the price of oil, and the globalisation of western diets/lifestyle.

* * *
W. Corridor, Hola again! Great advice.

Thankfully, food prices don't affect me much--I ought to eat half as much, as many of us folks could probably do!--but I know others suffer, especially in totalitarian 3rd world places.

681 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:24:27am

re: #658 Occasional Reader

Sheesh, you're wordier than us lawyers! Short answer: Do we literally look like God, or no?

(I haven't read the earlier post yet)
But in Judaism, G-d does not have a real form like us; He is incomprehensible. The terms used in Torah, like His face and hands, are figurative, and not meant to be taken literally.
We are made in His image in that we have free choice, and can interact with both the physical world, and some of the spiritual worlds.

682 vxbush  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:24:58am

re: #678 Occasional Reader

and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea

Actually, the "dominion" part may be relevant to this image. God has authority over everything; if Man is made in his image, then we, too, would have power over--or dominion over--certain things.

I could live with that.

683 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:26:52am

re: #679 Alouette

re: #631 WriterMom

OR there are only two choices a) George Burns or b) big white dude with flowy white beard.

DUH.

You forgot Morgan Freeman.

Also Alanis Morissette (shudder).

684 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:27:37am
685 AmeriDan  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:27:54am

re: #677 zmdavid

Actually, I misspoke, they will only ignore their obligations under such a treaty, they will always be harping on ours. So saying they will ignore the treaty is only half of what I meant.

The harping and whinning about us was implied, as far as I'm concerned.

686 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:27:56am

re: #681 Kosh's Shadow

But in Judaism, G-d does not have a real form like us; He is incomprehensible.

That makes a lot more sense than trying to claim that an omnipresent, spiritual, incorporeal being somehow looks like a dude.

687 Ben Hur  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:28:29am

re: #668 WriterMom

You are so dense.

God boogers. What else?

Did you get my mail?

688 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:28:32am

re: #684 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I've just found a new icon.

689 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:29:21am

Gee should I say this?

I made E-5 in 2.5 years. 0-:

690 Ben Hur  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:30:16am

re: #689 Dustoff-507

Gee should I say this?

I made E-5 in 2.5 years. 0-:


Did you really?

691 gop_patriot  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:30:24am

re: #658 Occasional Reader

I believe that "in His image" means not literally, two arms, two legs, etc. (except in the case of Jesus; Christians believe He is the Messiah and came to earth in the form of Man, a whole other discussion, lol). Image has traditionally been held to be, in my denomination at least, 'likeness', not 'exact reproduction physically'. Just mho. I found an article on the subject, don't know who this person is, but it gives a good idea of what many Christians believe on the subject.

Just mho. :)

692 AmeriDan  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:31:12am

re: #689 Dustoff-507

Gee should I say this?

I made E-5 in 2.5 years. 0-:

Braggart. But good on ya!

6YO?

693 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:31:21am

re: #690 Ben Hur

Yep...

694 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:32:05am

re: #692 AmeriDan


My NOSE is still brown... LOL

695 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:32:08am

re: #689 Dustoff-507

Gee should I say this?

I made E-5 in 2.5 years. 0-:

<====== TROLL! TROLL! TROLL!

/I jest ;~)

696 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:32:28am

re: #689 Dustoff-507

Gee should I say this?

I made E-5 in 2.5 years. 0-:

Who did you have to sleep with?

697 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:32:46am

Knew I should have kept my mouth shut!

698 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:33:04am

re: #696 Occasional Reader


OUCh, but?

699 1SG(ret)  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:33:12am

re: #689 Dustoff-507

As a medic that is amazing, it was common in Armor in the late 70's and early 80's. I made E-5 in 3 and E-7 in 9 years.
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700 lawhawk  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:33:18am

re: #683 Occasional Reader

And sounds like Charlton Heston (he voiced the Burning Bush in Ten Commandments).

701 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:34:24am

re: #699 1SG(ret)


Just got lucky I guess.
Not that I didn't try.

702 alegrias  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:35:00am

re: #699 1SG(ret)

As a medic that is amazing, it was common in Armor in the late 70's and early 80's. I made E-5 in 3 and E-7 in 9 years.
Top

* * *
Thank you both for your service. It's great to have such folk at LGF.

703 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:35:08am

re: #699 1SG(ret)


SGT I was in the service in 1972

704 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:35:41am

re: #702 alegrias


Thank you.

But Realwest is my hero. (-:

705 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:35:49am

re: #700 lawhawk

And sounds like Charlton Heston (he voiced the Burning Bush in Ten Commandments).

I maintain that he sounds like Gilbert Godfrey.

706 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:35:52am

re: #688 Occasional Reader

I've just found a new icon.

I thought you'd like that, OR.

707 alegrias  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:36:39am

re: #700 lawhawk

And sounds like Charlton Heston (he voiced the Burning Bush in Ten Commandments).

* * *
Are you sure? Why would they use Charlton Heston to play Moses and also YAHWEH in the same movie?

(Hope West Virginians are voting in Old Testament numbers today)

708 1SG(ret)  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:36:47am

re: #703 Dustoff-507

And I started in late 73.

709 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:37:33am

re: #707 alegrias

Why would they use Charlton Heston to play Moses and also YAHWEH in the same movie?

Cecil B. was a cheapskate!

710 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:37:49am

re: #708 1SG(ret)


Ahhh I was with the 57 med then came home to the 507 where I made SGT

711 1SG(ret)  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:39:10am

re: #704 Dustoff-507

Damn, Dustoff, I hit the wrong button on you there. Meant to upding that comment. Must leave buttons alone. Sorry
Top

712 AmeriDan  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:39:45am

re: #694 Dustoff-507

My NOSE is still brown... LOL

Seriously, where you in the six year obligation program (6YO). When I was in the Navy, you could join for six years active duty and come out of bootcamp/schools an E4.

713 alegrias  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:40:14am

re: #704 Dustoff-507

Thank you.

But Realwest is my hero. (-:

* * *
You're both probably fabulous heroes.
Did you all know Admiral Stockdale had a ship christened for him this past week, the USS Stockdale? He was a hero among heroes, our top leader among POWs in Vietnam, President of the Citadel briefly, and lastly, Ross Perot's vice presidential running mate in 1992, against the draft dodger & Al Gore who won.

714 yochanan  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:40:34am

re: #592 realwest

That's cause a) they've never actually served in the military and b) are too stupid and/or lazy to research their material!

BTW - Mom said just now that Fox News had some bit on about an active duty trooper (not sure what branch) running for Congress while he's still in the service. He's Black and in Georgia. Some stupid moonbat (sorry for the redundancy) said that was just fine with her. Someone else pointed out that you can't run for congress or other political office while you are on active duty it's a violation of the UCMJ. Mom said the second person was white and in a uniform - again, don't know which branch. Said second woman was loudly booed by the assembled masses, but she's right.
Military is subservient to civilian authority - always has been and, AFAIK should always be so; you can't therefore be both active duty Military and an Elected member of Congress.

I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE RESERVES WHO ARE IN CONGRESS

715 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:41:16am

re: #712 AmeriDan

I went in during Nam. 3 years.

716 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:42:37am

re: #713 alegrias

Was Stockdale the one who was forced to make a propaganda film by the North Vietnamese, but blinked "T-O-R-T-U-R-E" in Morse code during the film?

717 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:43:21am

re: #699 1SG(ret) Hey Top - it wasn't that uncommon (and I mean no insult to Dustoff when I say this) for Vietnam Medics - especially Dustoff medics, to make E-5.
Hell, I only served two years and I made it to E-4, twice! LOL!
Far as I was concerned, all Dustoff medics shoulda started out as E-5's - they were true heros in every sense of the word.

718 AmeriDan  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:44:43am

re: #715 Dustoff-507

I went in during Nam. 3 years.

Where you front line?

719 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:44:43am

re: #704 Dustoff-507
Smart ass!

720 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:45:05am

re: #713 alegrias


O -yeah I know of him.
Great man.

721 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:46:02am

re: #717 realwest

Realwest... (e-4 twice? )

722 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:46:42am

re: #714 yochanan HEY!
Y'all don't have to shout! What happens if they get called up to Active Duty?

723 WriterMom  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:47:04am

re: #687 Ben Hur

Got it. Replied!

724 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:47:12am

re: #718 AmeriDan


Yes.
57th Medevac. (first dustoff)

Goggle it.

We were nuts! (-:

725 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:47:27am

re: #719 realwest

LOL... hey buddy.

726 Kenneth  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:48:59am

Time mag published a number of "reports" recently from Iraq, all declaring Mookie Sadr's endless string of surprising victories, in Basra & now in Sadr City. What's really surprising, of course, is that no matter how many fighters Mookie looses, or how many of his arms caches the US & Iraqi army capture, or how much territory his militia gets run out of, or how many "cease fires" he declares as his Mahdi Army is getting whipped, Time mag always declares him the "winner". It's magic! Ta Da!

Perhaps not surprisingly, the author is always this same idiot: Mark Kukis

Here's a string of Kukis' articles going back months. Everyone of them extremely biased, not only against the US, but against the facts on the ground...

Al-Sadr Wins Another Round
Al-Sadr Tightens the Screws
Has the Surge Reached Its Limits?
Doubting the Evidence Against Iran (this one is really funny, as he offers not a shred of evidence to support his arguments, and even Time magazine has published several articles detailing the evidence he insists doesn't exist)

Time and again, Kukis gets it wrong. His reports on what's happening and his predictions of the next step. Every. Time. Wrong.

727 1SG(ret)  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:50:59am

re: #717 realwest
Couldn't agree more, I owe my life to a dustoff medic.

728 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:51:36am

re: #718 AmeriDan
Dustoff Medics were the dudes who rode in big ole choppers, usually marked with a big Red Cross and a circle of white, into HOT LZ's, so the Medics could get wounded soldiers out of combat and along the way save their lives.
Far as I'm concerned it was the most dangerous job during the war. Everyone on the other side was trying to shoot down those Medevac choppers with everything they had.

729 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:53:42am

re: #721 Dustoff-507 Yup, long story - let's just say I "had it out" with a superior ranking person (who was cool with that after it was over) but it was witnessed by an asshat young LT. So for a brief time I was knocked down to PFC.

730 Kenneth  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:53:59am

re: #716 Occasional Reader

Yes, that was General Stockdale.

731 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:54:21am

re: #724 Dustoff-507
"were"?!?!

732 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:55:03am

re: #729 realwest


Damn buddy... well sometimes you have to do what you have to do!

733 AmeriDan  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:55:16am

re: #724 Dustoff-507

Yes.
57th Medevac. (first dustoff)

Goggle it.

We were nuts! (-:

I will goggle it. Until then...

*AmeriDan stands and salutes Dustoff*

My late uncle was awarded a Silver Star for his actions in Nam. He was alive to recieve it thanks to medics.

734 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:55:44am

re: #731 realwest


OOOOOOOOOOOO, now look who being a *&%^#$^�%$% LOL

735 Kenneth  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:56:03am

re: #728 realwest

Everyone on the other side was trying to shoot down those Medevac choppers with everything they had.

...but, but, but... that would be a violation of the Geneva Conventions of War, and as all progressive people know, only the US & Israel do that!

736 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:57:02am

re: #733 AmeriDan


Thanks Dan.

PS. Goggle, 57th medical. Goggle will not show it as Medevac?

737 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:57:20am

ROTFL! Sorry but someone had to say it!

738 yochanan  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:57:20am

re: #624 jcm

We're goin' wabbit huntin'!

SEND THAT TO DHIMMI CARTER

739 alegrias  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:58:04am

re: #716 Occasional Reader

Was Stockdale the one who was forced to make a propaganda film by the North Vietnamese, but blinked "T-O-R-T-U-R-E" in Morse code during the film?

* * *
Some POW did, but Admiral Stockdale is the one who bashed & bloodied his head into hamburger so he wouldn't be put on tv by the Viet Cong to make propaganda against the USA.

740 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:58:43am

re: #735 Kenneth


LOL.... yeah we got rid of the WHITE DOORS real fast. Makes for a better target. 0-:

Plus I didn't say this, but some Hueys(dustoff) were armed. Which was a no-no.

741 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:59:27am

re: #735 Kenneth Yeah, funny how that works, isn't it?
One of my closest friends was the pilot on a gunship in those days and when possible, they were assigned to cover the dustoff's - it gave him great joy to do that. And he was very, very good at doing that!

742 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:59:33am

re: #737 realwest


Getting me this early morning are you Realwest. (-:

743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:59:44am

re: #730 Kenneth

Yes, that was General Stockdale.


Who was the POW that the North Vietnamese released as a "good will" gesture, thinking that he was borderline retarded? He actually had an incredible memory & memorized the names of each POW held with him, when they were captured, etc,..

744 alegrias  Tue, May 13, 2008 9:00:51am

re: #743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

* * *
Doug something. Scandinavian sounding non-commissioned young guy who fell overboard a ship while mopping it, and the Vietcong scooped him out of the water.

745 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 9:01:36am

re: #741 realwest


I owe my life to many of the gunships who kept us safe.
The Cobras & Sandy's were something else.

746 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 9:01:53am

re: #740 Dustoff-507
"but some Hueys(dustoff) were armed." Really? I only witnessed a few of them in action and they sure as hell weren't armed (see my #741).

747 alegrias  Tue, May 13, 2008 9:02:28am

re: #743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Who was the POW that the North Vietnamese released as a "good will" gesture, thinking that he was borderline retarded? He actually had an incredible memory & memorized the names of each POW held with him, when they were captured, etc,..

* * *
There was one POW, Doug Hegdahl, who was ordered to accept early release because he has somehow memorized name, rank and branch of over 200 ...(fellow POWS)

748 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 9:04:31am

re: #746 realwest


Yep... it was a NO-No.. but some of us got tired of being made into swiss cheeze.
Funny how that M-60 just jumped out of the door. 0-:

749 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 9:07:55am

re: #745 Dustoff-507 Yes they were! My good friend was in one of the first versions of the Cobra (having previously flown the Huey's with the M-60's) and I can guarntee that if he was covering your ass, you'd get out of there!
Distinguished Flying Cross, Silver Star and I don't know how many Air Medals.
And boy did he love that Cobra (after he got used to it's "peculiarities")!

750 AmeriDan  Tue, May 13, 2008 9:08:38am

re: #740 Dustoff-507

LOL.... yeah we got rid of the WHITE DOORS real fast. Makes for a better target. 0-:

Plus I didn't say this, but some Hueys(dustoff) were armed. Which was a no-no.

Ixney. The walls have ears. I'll assume any Hueys that were armed had the guns like they use to shoot free tee-shirts into the crowd at NBA games.

All in good fun right? Right?

Heh.

751 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 9:14:16am

re: #750 AmeriDan


LOL..... yeah they so loved Basketball over there.

752 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 13, 2008 9:15:21am

re: #749 realwest

Pardon me sir. (-: But I've flown in a Cobra once. "time of my life"

753 Kenneth  Tue, May 13, 2008 9:16:30am

Correction:

It was Admiral Jeremiah Denton who blinked morse code. Stockdale was the man who beat his own face.

754 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 9:16:55am

re: #752 Dustoff-507
Didja just go for a test flight or did you operate any of the, ah, equipment?!

755 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 9:21:48am

re: #753 Kenneth Hey Kenneth, thank you for that. I went to your link and was truly astounded. He spent FOUR YEARS of his 8 years in captivity, in SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
So many brave Americans then, before then and now, it's almost impossible to comprehend.

756 AmeriDan  Tue, May 13, 2008 9:53:10am

re: #751 Dustoff-507

LOL..... yeah they so loved Basketball over there.

He Shoots! HE SCORES!

Time for bed (night shifter). A good day to all.

757 Jim C.  Tue, May 13, 2008 8:39:07pm
Oh a fish-like thing appeared among the annelids one day
It hadn't any parapods nor setae to display
It hadn't any eyes or jaws or ventral nervous chord,
But it had a lot of gill slits and it had a notochord.

CHORUS:
It's a long way from Amphioxus, it's a long way to us,
It's a long way from Amphioxus, to the meanest human cuss.
Well, it's good-bye to fins and gill slits, and it's welcome lungs and hair,
It's a long, long way from Amphioxus but we all came from there.

:)


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