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Obama: I Understand Why Hamas Digs Me

Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:01:15 am PST

After first denying that Hamas supports him and attacking John McCain for bringing it up, Barack Obama now says he understands why Hamas supports him.

While maintaining an ironclad commitment to Israel’s security, Barack Obama says he understood why a top Hamas adviser voiced support for his presidential bid.

“It’s conceivable that there are those in the Arab world who say to themselves, ‘This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein and appears more worldly and has called for talks with people, and so he’s not going to be engaging in the same sort of cowboy diplomacy as George Bush,’” Obama said in an interview with The Atlantic.

That’s a perfectly legitimate perception as long as they’re not confused about my unyielding support for Israel’s security,” Obama said.

Now why in the world would they be confused about that?

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1 DesertSage  5/13/08 9:02:07 am reply quote 1

Just back off....and let me eat my waffle!

2 Ward Cleaver  5/13/08 9:02:34 am reply quote 0

Because he believes that Israel is a festering sore.

3 The Other Les  5/13/08 9:03:27 am reply quote 0

If only I could have a bug in the room when he privately taks about the subject.

4 VegasRick  5/13/08 9:03:56 am reply quote 4

Fuck Barry Hussein.

5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/13/08 9:04:00 am reply quote 0

WAFFLER! Golden and Crispy! Bad guys is history!

/queue theme music

Maybe because they know you would "dialog" Barry, instead of killing them.

6 Killgore Trout  5/13/08 9:04:01 am reply quote 0

Will AIPAC and the world wide Jewish conspiracy be powerful enough to sink him?
/

7 Ward Cleaver  5/13/08 9:04:08 am reply quote 1

His middle name is Hussein? Who knew?

/looking around

8 gop_patriot  5/13/08 9:04:48 am reply quote 1
and appears more worldly and has called for talks with people leaders of regimes whose stated purpose of wiping Israel off the map is well known,

Fixed that for you, Barak.

9 DistantThunder  5/13/08 9:05:01 am reply quote 6

Tell that to John Wayne.....

How many cowboy movies has obama ever watched? There should be a cowboy movie Litmus test for any candidate for president.

10 Kosh's Shadow  5/13/08 9:05:01 am reply quote 8

I understand why Hamas likes him too.
And don't forget he criticized the "settlements". Hamas considers Tel Aviv a "settlement". Maybe Obama doesn't, but he sure wouldn't leave a defensible border for Israel, no matter what he says about Israel's security.

Shaheeds on the right, kassams on the left
here I am, stuck in the middle with you

11 Ben Hur  5/13/08 9:05:05 am reply quote 0
appears more worldly

Because he was in Pakistan for TWO WEEKS.

12 Ward Cleaver  5/13/08 9:05:06 am reply quote 0

re: #6 Killgore Trout

Will AIPAC and the world wide Jewish conspiracy be powerful enough to sink him?
/

No, but the bagel lobby will.

13 Fat Jolly Penguin  5/13/08 9:05:23 am reply quote 0

Of course. When he gets into hot water, or even thinks he's going to, blame it all on BOOOOOOOOOSH!

/he still has a middle name?!

14 Alouette  5/13/08 9:05:32 am reply quote 0

Now I want another waffle.

15 Ward Cleaver  5/13/08 9:05:38 am reply quote 0

re: #11 Ben Hur

Because he was in Pakistan for TWO WEEKS.

And he went to a secular madrassa!

16 DistantThunder  5/13/08 9:05:39 am reply quote 17

Obama is speaking in code to Hamas. - and they both know it.

17 bosforus  5/13/08 9:05:42 am reply quote 0

Although each individual slip up by Obama (in this case, agreeing with John McCain about something he dismissed earlier) doesn't necessarily do him a lot of harm with his supporters, the continuation of these slip ups will lead them down the same line of reasoning, that he's just another politician, and they'll never be able to deny that they were duped. It's somewhat satisfying, but little compared to the thought of Obama losing in the general.

18 Sharmuta  5/13/08 9:06:04 am reply quote 8
“That’s a perfectly legitimate perception as long as they’re not confused about my unyielding support for Israel’s security,” Obama said.

Yeah- rhetoric like "constant sore" really shows support for Israeli security.

19 Ben Hur  5/13/08 9:06:19 am reply quote 2

Baruch Obamasteinowitzenbergengoldenbaum.

20 Vergeltung  5/13/08 9:06:45 am reply quote 3

my Mom, a college professor, was at a luncheon for teachers yesterday, and was seated with all female, and mostly jewish colleagues. My Mom was (and almost always is) the only conservative there, in a sea of liberalism.

talk turned to politics. to a woman, they all delcared their unity with Hillary, in stark opposition to Obama, based largely on Jewish/Israeli isues and concerns with Obama and his percieved sympathy for the phakestinians, etc. she said nothing there, except the usual things, but told us all at dinner last night hoiw shocked she was at the lack of support Obama had in this regard. they will not vote for him. they did not say they would vote for McCain, but did not rule it out. that, or stay home.

I think it was very interesting, and may be quite revealing to the outcome of the Fall election.

21 Killgore Trout  5/13/08 9:07:00 am reply quote 2

re: #12 Ward Cleaver

All your lox are belong to us.

22 mbruce  5/13/08 9:07:01 am reply quote 4

Please, no distractions allowed while Barry makes plans to throw Israel under the bus. He likes throwing people under buses.

23 Nevergiveup  5/13/08 9:07:17 am reply quote 0

re: #2 Ward Cleaver

Because he believes that Israel is a festering sore.

"Open Sore" "Open Sore"--least we be accused of misquoting him?

24 Fat Jolly Penguin  5/13/08 9:07:19 am reply quote 1

Waffles anyone?

/perfect for lizardoids -- it's shaped like a keyboard!

25 eric  5/13/08 9:07:25 am reply quote 4

Obama is unbelievable. The mental somersault one has to go through for this is comic. "Well the terrorists support me, that's understandable, after all, I am me. And oh, I need the Jewish vote so let's throw them a bone"

26 vxbush  5/13/08 9:07:30 am reply quote 0

re: #17 bosforus

Although each individual slip up by Obama (in this case, agreeing with John McCain about something he dismissed earlier) doesn't necessarily do him a lot of harm with his supporters, the continuation of these slip ups will lead them down the same line of reasoning, that he's just another politician, and they'll never be able to deny that they were duped. It's somewhat satisfying, but little compared to the thought of Obama losing in the general.

BUT the supporters have to stop and realize all the little things that went wrong. I haven't seen many willing to do that.

27 Ben Hur  5/13/08 9:07:31 am reply quote 0
appears more worldly

To those other worldly sophisticated society types.....HAMAS.

28 phil flavin  5/13/08 9:07:36 am reply quote 0

re: #19 Ben Hur

Baruch Hussein Obamasteinowitzenbergengoldenbaum.

fixed it

29 Sharmuta  5/13/08 9:07:46 am reply quote 0

re: #23 Nevergiveup

"Open Sore" "Open Sore"--least we be accused of misquoting him?

It's "constant sore".

30 Ward Cleaver  5/13/08 9:07:49 am reply quote 0

re: #23 Nevergiveup

"Open Sore" "Open Sore"--least we be accused of misquoting him?

Okay, open sore.

/semantics

31 Ward Cleaver  5/13/08 9:08:44 am reply quote 0

re: #24 Fat Jolly Penguin

Waffles anyone?

/perfect for lizardoids -- it's shaped like a keyboard!

Very cool!

Does that really exist?

32 Ben Hur  5/13/08 9:08:49 am reply quote 0

re: #2 Ward Cleaver

Because he believes that Israel is a festering sore.


Now now, he said the Pali/Israeli situation is a festering sore.

Still absolutely WRONG, but what he really said.

33 Tumulus11  5/13/08 9:08:57 am reply quote 5
'This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein and appears more worldly ....'


. To the Arab world, Mr. Hussein appears more malleable.

34 Kosh's Shadow  5/13/08 9:09:02 am reply quote 0

re: #22 mbruce

Please, no distractions allowed while Barry makes plans to throw Israel under the bus. He likes throwing people under buses.

In this case, he might use a train. With cattle cars.

35 Cap'n DOC  5/13/08 9:09:07 am reply quote 0

re: #9 DistantThunder

Or Buckwheat & Our Gang, for that matter.

36 Bob in Breckenridge[deleted]  5/13/08 9:09:09 am 0
37 Nevergiveup  5/13/08 9:09:11 am reply quote 0

re: #29 Sharmuta

It's "constant sore".

You right. Ops!

38 Ma Sands  5/13/08 9:09:14 am reply quote 0
Now why in the world would they be confused about that? What could possibly give them such an idea?


Bingo!

39 Ben Hur  5/13/08 9:09:31 am reply quote 0

re: #28 phil flavin


Baruch Hussein Obamasteinowitzenbergengoldenbaum.

Baruch Haim Obamasteinowitzenbergengoldenbaum.

Even better.

40 Vergeltung  5/13/08 9:09:39 am reply quote 0

re: #33 Tumulus11

. To the Arab world, Mr. Hussein appears more malleable.

like sharks, they will smell blood and weakness should the dems win. they will act immediately, I am sure.

41 zombie  5/13/08 9:10:13 am reply quote 26
he’s not going to be engaging in the same sort of cowboy diplomacy as George Bush

This guy is signaling weakness all over the place.

The reason the bad guys like him is not because he's necessarily symapthetic to their causes, but because it's obvious he'll be a pushover in any negotiations.

Obama is simply not ready for the world stage. The man has no clue. It is a HARSH reality out there. Bush's flaw wasn't that he engaged in "cowboy diplomacy," but rather that he didn't foilow Teddy Roosevelt's dictum "Speak softly and carry a big stick." He wasn't enough of a cowboy.

In international diplomacy, behind every discussion point there has to be the unspoken second half of every sentence: "...or we will kick your ass."

42 ironbill  5/13/08 9:10:20 am reply quote 4

It wasn't "cowboy diplomacy."

We were attacked on 9-11 assh%$#

43 looking closely  5/13/08 9:10:21 am reply quote 4

This is particularly cutting:

"Open sore" is the exact same language used by the Arab league as their strategy to undermine Israel by keeping the Palestinian "issue" open.

Apparently Obama has fallen for it, hook line and sinker.

44 bosforus  5/13/08 9:10:23 am reply quote 0

re: #26 vxbush

BUT the supporters have to stop and realize all the little things that went wrong. I haven't seen many willing to do that.

I know, they stonewall it. They'll avoid the point at all costs. But they can't hide forever.

45 jcm  5/13/08 9:10:24 am reply quote 0

“That’s a perfectly legitimate perception as long as they’re not confused about my unyielding support for a festering sore,” Obama meant said.

46 alegrias  5/13/08 9:10:38 am reply quote 0

IRONCLAD support for Israel!

That's not exactly what his campaign mentors said for 20 years.

47 maddogg  5/13/08 9:10:39 am reply quote 0
“It’s conceivable that there are those in the Arab world who say to themselves, ‘This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein and appears more worldly and has called for talks with people, and so he’s not going to be engaging in the same sort of cowboy diplomacy as George Bush,’” Obama said in an interview with The Atlantic.

Jimmah? Jimmah? Is that you?

48 stead63  5/13/08 9:10:45 am reply quote 0

and he had enough time to answer that in between his waffles? Amazing.

49 Nevergiveup  5/13/08 9:11:02 am reply quote 0

re: #40 Vergeltung

like sharks, they will smell blood and weakness should the dems win. they will act immediately, I am sure.

What act? All they have to do is to sit at the table and Obama, the EU, and The UN will serve Israel right up!

50 Ben Hur[deleted]  5/13/08 9:11:17 am 1
51 Fat Jolly Penguin  5/13/08 9:11:53 am reply quote 0

re: #31 Ward Cleaver

Very cool!

Does that really exist?

Unfortunately, I don't think so. If it does, it's custom made:

While you may lobby that nothing's sweeter than an automated waffle maker, Chris Dimino just might counter that. This design guru has apparently concocted a retro inspired, and ever-so-slightly altered kitchen appliance that cooks waffle that are a bit wider and more familiar than usual. This piece of cookware sports an integrated stand for holding four jars of syrup, and the iron itself presses a nifty keyboard each and every time -- caps lock key and all. Of course, we don't expect retailers to start stocking these things anytime soon, but if you're serious about your words waffles-per-minute, we're sure Chris could make arrangements.

52 zombie  5/13/08 9:12:02 am reply quote 0

re: #6 Killgore Trout

Will AIPAC and the world wide Jewish conspiracy be powerful enough to sink him?
/

I'm warming up my tentacles already.

53 lawhawk  5/13/08 9:12:07 am reply quote 5

Ah, a nuanced response that only makes the statements made yesterday to Goldberg appear in the same light that Charles and others read them - that he's going to pursue policies antithetical to Israel's security (and which would necessarily be antithetical to US security interests in the region as it would cement yet another terrorist regime on Israel's borders (Hizbullahland being the first)).

Obama's positions on the ME are Carteresque warmed over pablum, which failed the first time around, and continue to fail. It's no surprise why they sound Carteresque - Carter's people are part and parcel of the campaign. But it gets much worse than that.

Meanwhile, Lowry notes that questioning Obama on all sorts of issues are off limits - by his own say-so.

54 Ward Cleaver  5/13/08 9:12:07 am reply quote 1

re: #41 zombie

This guy is signaling weakness all over the place.

The reason the bad guys like him is not because he's necessarily symapthetic to their causes, but because it's obvious he'll be a pushover in any negotiations.

Obama is simply not ready for the world stage. The man has no clue. It is a HARSH reality out there. Bush's flaw wasn't that he engaged in "cowboy diplomacy," but rather that he didn't foilow Teddy Roosevelt's dictum "Speak softly and carry a big stick." He wasn't enough of a cowboy.

In international diplomacy, behind every discussion point there has to be the unspoken second half of every sentence: "...or we will kick your ass."

Bush needed a waaaay bigger stick in Iraq, like his dad used in GWI.

55 Ben Hur  5/13/08 9:12:24 am reply quote 0

re: #41 zombie

This guy is signaling weakness all over the place.

The reason the bad guys like him is not because he's necessarily symapthetic to their causes, but because it's obvious he'll be a pushover in any negotiations.

Obama is simply not ready for the world stage. The man has no clue. It is a HARSH reality out there. Bush's flaw wasn't that he engaged in "cowboy diplomacy," but rather that he didn't foilow Teddy Roosevelt's dictum "Speak softly and carry a big stick." He wasn't enough of a cowboy.

In international diplomacy, behind every discussion point there has to be the unspoken second half of every sentence: "...or we will kick your ass."

Hamas, or Dinnerjacket or any Mid-East language will out Souk his ass in any talks or negotiations.

They will run circles around him.

They do to most.

56 Silhouette  5/13/08 9:12:27 am reply quote 5

Yeah, BO, fanatical mass-murdering terrorists only like you because you want to talk.

Clearly, from their daily murder attempts and constant avowal that they will never negotiate, talking is paramount on their mind.

/

57 Ojoe  5/13/08 9:12:46 am reply quote 0

To me it bodes very very ill that Obama describes himself as "more worldly" and God help us if he should be elected president of our country.

58 Ward Cleaver  5/13/08 9:12:48 am reply quote 2

re: #46 alegrias

IRONCLAD support for Israel!

That's not exactly what his campaign mentors said for 20 years.

"Ironclad" meaning a tin plating over balsa wood.

59 Sharmuta  5/13/08 9:12:55 am reply quote 2

re: #43 looking closely

"Constant sore".

re: #45 jcm

"Constant sore".

His words are a constant sore, and I intent to pick at that scab.

60 itellu3times  5/13/08 9:13:03 am reply quote 0

WHY does Obama support Israel?

[Link: www.barackobama.com...]

There's also a pdf.

Israel: our strongest ally in the region and its only established democracy. That will always be my starting point. And when we see all of the growing threats in the region: from Iran to Iraq to the resurgence of al-Qaeda to the reinvigoration of Hamas and Hezbollah, that loyalty and that friendship will guide me as we begin to lay the stones that will build the road that takes us from the current instability to lasting peace and security.

Sounds OK to me.

I'm dubious, but more because I think Obambi seems to know little about anything, and of course because of his friggin' name, not to mention the leftoids and/or wackjobs he hangs around with, than for a *specific* reason.

Er, yeah.

61 Russkilitlover  5/13/08 9:13:13 am reply quote 2

Obama, thy name is treachery.

62 formercorpsman  5/13/08 9:13:23 am reply quote 5

re: #41 zombie

I could not agree more.

Not for one minute, could anyone convince me, Iran, Syria, and the rest of the scum are not salivating at the thought of him winning.

I perish the thought of him winning.

63 Ben Hur  5/13/08 9:13:24 am reply quote 0

Remain calm.

We still have the pro-Israel Senate to temper this radical's beliefs.

64 Ward Cleaver  5/13/08 9:13:25 am reply quote 0

re: #57 Ojoe

To me it bodes very very ill that Obama describes himself as "more worldly" and God help us if he should be elected president of our country.

More arugula exports to the Third World.

65 alegrias  5/13/08 9:13:30 am reply quote 3

Carter II

And we know what Carter I says about Israel. It's not pretty.

66 Kosh's Shadow[deleted]  5/13/08 9:13:32 am 0
67 looking closely  5/13/08 9:13:44 am reply quote 4

"Open sore" is also the language chosen by the usual assortment of Israel haters, including Justin Raimodo of antiwar.com:

It is hardly in America's national interest to continue this state of affairs. We are up against a terrorist enemy that uses our unconditional support of Israel as one of its main recruiting devices – second only to the war in Iraq. America's Israeli-centric policy in the Middle East reinforces al-Qaeda's contention that the U.S. is out to destroy Islam, humiliate the Arab people, and impose what it calls "Crusader-Zionist" hegemony on the region. Our policy destabilizes the Arab governments in the region who are our allies, such as Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, and the current government of Lebanon. It in no way serves our purposes to have this open sore continue to fester. And yet every attempt to heal this wound has been met with opposition from the powerful pro-Israel lobby in our midst, and the poisons issuing forth from this wound continue to infect the whole region, including Iraq.

68 faraway  5/13/08 9:13:44 am reply quote 6

President Obama: Carter's Second Term

69 Ringo the Gringo  5/13/08 9:14:03 am reply quote 0
"...has a middle name of Hussein..."

I thought we weren't supposed to make inferences based on his middle name....And now he's saying that Arabs will relate to him better because of it.

70 bulwrk  5/13/08 9:14:10 am reply quote 0

and so he’s not going to be engaging in the same sort of cowboy typical white person diplomacy

71 zombie  5/13/08 9:14:13 am reply quote 1

Y'know, there was a girl walking around the Nakba-60 festival registering people to vote, and she had an Obama sticker on her clipboard. I didn't take a picture, not thinking it was noteworthy, but now I'm regretting it.

72 jcm  5/13/08 9:14:16 am reply quote 0
73 Teacake!  5/13/08 9:14:21 am reply quote 3

Obama's chatter about his respect and such for JEws and Israel is so extremely condescending.

74 bosforus  5/13/08 9:14:36 am reply quote 0

re: #26 vxbush

Or maybe I'm just underestimating the left's ability to live in denial.

75 itellu3times  5/13/08 9:14:52 am reply quote 0

re: #68 faraway

President Obama: Carter's Second Term

OUTSTANDING!

Someone fax this to the McCain campaign ... I don't know if they have email over there.

76 Bob in Breckenridge  5/13/08 9:14:54 am reply quote 1

re: #50 Ben Hur

You are far from naive.

The Iranians released the hostages after Reagan was elected precisely because "there is a cowboy" in office.

That's documented.

I'd love to know why my #37 was deleted...

77 DistantThunder  5/13/08 9:15:12 am reply quote 2

re: #41 zombie

This guy is signaling weakness all over the place.

The reason the bad guys like him is not because he's necessarily symapthetic to their causes, but because it's obvious he'll be a pushover in any negotiations.

Obama is simply not ready for the world stage. The man has no clue. It is a HARSH reality out there. Bush's flaw wasn't that he engaged in "cowboy diplomacy," but rather that he didn't foilow Teddy Roosevelt's dictum "Speak softly and carry a big stick." He wasn't enough of a cowboy.

In international diplomacy, behind every discussion point there has to be the unspoken second half of every sentence: "...or we will kick your ass."

The Alpha wolves are licking their chops waiting for the beta sheep obama to enter the room. They can almost taste him. Obama in all his beta maleness - is presenting his hind-quarters for sniffing.

Obama must be defeated if we are to avoid a national catastrophe.

78 Ward Cleaver  5/13/08 9:15:24 am reply quote 0

re: #71 zombie

Y'know, there was a girl walking around the Nakba-60 festival registering people to vote, and she had an Obama sticker on her clipboard. I didn't take a picture, not thinking it was noteworthy, but now I'm regretting it.

Yes, that would have been good.

79 Bob in Breckenridge  5/13/08 9:15:24 am reply quote 0

re: #76 Bob in Breckenridge

I'd love to know why my #37 was deleted...

Whoops, my #36.

80 Nevergiveup  5/13/08 9:15:27 am reply quote 4

re: #53 lawhawk

These are some of the "Code Words" to look for:
Honest Broker
Even Handed Approach
They may sound innocuous, but they serve to bury Israel.

81 Ben Hur  5/13/08 9:15:43 am reply quote 1

re: #60 itellu3times

WHY does Obama support Israel?

[Link: www.barackobama.com...]

There's also a pdf.

Sounds OK to me.

I'm dubious, but more because I think Obambi seems to know little about anything, and of course because of his friggin' name, not to mention the leftoids and/or wackjobs he hangs around with, than for a *specific* reason.

Er, yeah.


See this:

Scary Signals: Obama's Ideology Hints At Dangerous Policy

Compare to what he could have said. My rewrite:

Still, there is no greater gift America can give to Israel -- no better way we can salute our Israeli friends on this important anniversary -- than to redouble our commitment to help Israel achieve its goal of true security through providing it with military equipment, isolating and pressuring its hostile neighbors, demanding an end to terrorism and incitement, and remembering who is America's true friend in the region.

82 Fat Jolly Penguin  5/13/08 9:16:07 am reply quote 0

re: #77 DistantThunder

The Alpha wolves are licking their chops waiting for the beta sheep obama to enter the room. They can almost taste him. Obama in all his beta maleness - is presenting his hind-quarters for sniffing.

Obama has gamey buttocks?

/

83 gman  5/13/08 9:16:11 am reply quote 7

I would much rather have cowboy diplomacy than bubbleheaded naivete

84 Ojoe  5/13/08 9:16:41 am reply quote 4

re: #41 zombie

The most moral people should have the biggest weapons or the evil will prey upon the innocent

85 gop_patriot  5/13/08 9:16:47 am reply quote 1

re: #41 zombie

Plus 1, well said!

86 Silhouette  5/13/08 9:16:56 am reply quote 1

Obama, the correct response, even throwing in the liberal mindset, was, "I do not ever accept the approval of terrorists. If they approve of me, I cannot like it, and be assured the approval isn't mutual. While I support the Palestinians search for a workable solution, the use of terror and groups like Hamas cannot be part of it."

You missed it by a mile.

87 Ward Cleaver  5/13/08 9:16:58 am reply quote 0

re: #76 Bob in Breckenridge

I'd love to know why my #37 was deleted...

Wasn't it #36?

88 Bob in Breckenridge  5/13/08 9:17:14 am reply quote 0

re: #79 Bob in Breckenridge

Must have been because I misspelled muslims.

89 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  5/13/08 9:17:16 am reply quote 0

HAMAS: We Grok Barack.

90 looking closely  5/13/08 9:17:18 am reply quote 3

re: #59 Sharmuta

"Constant sore".

re: #45 jcm

"Constant sore".

His words are a constant sore, and I intent to pick at that scab.

Constant sore = open sore.

Same thing.

Here's another quote to put the phrase "open sore" (or constant sore, your choice) into historical context:

The attitude of the other Arab states toward the Palestinian Arab refugees was, as noted, completely different. This attitude was succinctly described by Ralph Galloway, a former head of the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), in Amman, capital of Jordan, in August 1958: quote:-

"The Arab states do not want to solve the refugee problem. They want to keep it as open sore, as an affront to the United Nations and as a weapon against Israel. Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die." Unquote...

91 Ben Hur  5/13/08 9:17:23 am reply quote 0

re: #76 Bob in Breckenridge

I'd love to know why my #37 was deleted...


I didn't do it.

Nor can I do it.

92 MJ  5/13/08 9:17:37 am reply quote 0

re: #43 looking closely

This is particularly cutting:

"Open sore" is the exact same language used by the Arab league as their strategy to undermine Israel by keeping the Palestinian "issue" open.

Apparently Obama has fallen for it, hook line and sinker.

Right.
"Open sore" is also the language of Nazism...that Jews are Bacteria which must be eradicated. It's the Jews as Vermin meme.

93 Bob in Breckenridge  5/13/08 9:17:44 am reply quote 0

re: #87 Ward Cleaver

Wasn't it #36?

yep. PIMF.

94 unrealizedviewpoint  5/13/08 9:18:33 am reply quote 4

I do not believe Americans are turned off to Bush over his so called Cowboy Diplomacy. I actually think that's what's left for real Americans to like about the man. We're certainly disappointed with the slow results in Iraq. And we're terribly disappointed with his inability to communicate. I think with each gaffe he makes he loses a tenth of an approval point.

Right or wrong, Obama having to answer for the Hamas endorsement ain't good for Obama.

95 Silhouette  5/13/08 9:18:35 am reply quote 0

re: #71 zombie

Y'know, there was a girl walking around the Nakba-60 festival registering people to vote, and she had an Obama sticker on her clipboard. I didn't take a picture, not thinking it was noteworthy, but now I'm regretting it.

Gee, why would a candidate that is a Friend to Israel expect to find supporters among those that consider Israel's formation a tragedy?

/wide-eyed naivete

96 Ben Hur  5/13/08 9:18:38 am reply quote 0

HE DID NOT CALL ISRAEL AN OPEN SORE.

97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/13/08 9:18:39 am reply quote 0

So far, Barry has the support of FARC and HAMAS. I'm wondering what other terrorist endorsements he has waiting in the wings.

98 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/13/08 9:19:10 am reply quote 0

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So far, Barry has the support of FARC and HAMAS. I'm wondering what other terrorist endorsements he has waiting in the wings.

Oh, and Billy Ayers, cant forget the home grown terrorists.

99 Charles  5/13/08 9:19:21 am reply quote 2

It is absolutely not OK to use derogatory slurs for Muslims here. You must know this already, because the filter blocks some of the most common ones, and you probably have already discovered that.

This is a warning. Do it again, and accounts will be blocked.

100 Bob in Breckenridge  5/13/08 9:19:29 am reply quote 0

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So far, Barry has the support of FARC and HAMAS. I'm wondering what other terrorist endorsements he has waiting in the wings.

/Ummm...Weather Underground?

101 DistantThunder  5/13/08 9:19:32 am reply quote 1

It's part of Obama's Messiah complex that he thinks mere mortals cannot succeed with genocidal monsters like the Iranian leaders, and Asad - but that HE, the great, clean uniter, can bring monsters and saints together over common goals.

But Monsters and Saints don't have common goals..........

102 redshirt  5/13/08 9:19:42 am reply quote 3
‘This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein and appears more worldly and has called for talks with people, and so he’s not going to be engaging in the same sort of cowboy diplomacy as George Bush,’”


If Barack really believes our enemies are hoping for a leader who wants to talk out our differences to achieve peace, he has a terrifying lack of understanding of who we are fighting.

103 coquimbojoe  5/13/08 9:19:58 am reply quote 2

Hamas digging you is a bad sign. As is communists 'hearting' you, and Osama Bin Laden dry humping your leg.

104 Sharmuta  5/13/08 9:20:01 am reply quote 2
‘This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein and appears more worldly and has called for talks with people, and so he’s not going to be engaging in the same sort of cowboy diplomacy as George Bush,’

I figured it was because they know an appeaser when they see one.

105 Bob in Breckenridge  5/13/08 9:20:03 am reply quote 0

re: #99 Charles

It is absolutely not OK to use derogatory slurs for Muslims here. You must know this already, because the filter blocks some of the most common ones, and you probably have already discovered that.

This is a warning. Do it again, and accounts will be blocked.

Gotcha. Sorry.

106 nikis-knight  5/13/08 9:20:08 am reply quote 0

And how about FARC?

Exactly how often in the last 30 years has a republican (likely candidate) gotten the endorsement of a terrorist or dictator?
Compared to dems? It would be an interesting comparison, wouldn't it? I remember Kerry getting some unsavory endorsements, too

107 DistantThunder  5/13/08 9:20:08 am reply quote 0

re: #86 Silhouette

Obama, the correct response, even throwing in the liberal mindset, was, "I do not ever accept the approval of terrorists. If they approve of me, I cannot like it, and be assured the approval isn't mutual. While I support the Palestinians search for a workable solution, the use of terror and groups like Hamas cannot be part of it."

You missed it by a mile.

See, how hard it is really - assuming that you S. are not a brain surgeon....

108 itellu3times  5/13/08 9:20:12 am reply quote 0
"Still, there is no greater gift America can give to Israel -- no better way we can salute our Israeli friends on this important anniversary -- than to redouble our commitment to help Israel achieve its goal of true security through lasting peace with its neighbors. The United States does Israel no favors when it neglects opportunities for progress in Arab-Israeli peacemaking."

Yeah but this is targeting Bush's "not speaking" to people, it really isn't about Israel at all.

The biggest gift the US could give Israel is regime-change in Saudi Arabia, and then we'll worry about Iran.

109 Kosh's Shadow  5/13/08 9:20:15 am reply quote 0

re: #76 Bob in Breckenridge

I'd love to know why my #37 was deleted...

It was, I think 36, and it had a term for Muslim that Charles disapproves of, is my guess.

110 gman  5/13/08 9:20:17 am reply quote 0

re: #89 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

HAMAS: We Grok Barack.

or "Barack has our Baaack"

111 Ojoe  5/13/08 9:20:22 am reply quote 0

re: #102 redshirt

terrifying lack.

112 Ben Hur  5/13/08 9:20:37 am reply quote 4

In a post Cold War world, in which every "power" (China, Russia, Etc) is hell bent on advancing their national interests, what we don't need is a softist in office.

113 Kenneth  5/13/08 9:20:54 am reply quote 1

re: #90 looking closely

"Open sore" & yesterday it was "57 States"... got any any more of Obama's freudian slips?

114 Russkilitlover  5/13/08 9:21:05 am reply quote 7

Obama is bleeding profusely in international waters and the sharks are closing in with bibs and cutlery. He is TOAST on the international scene. It's like he took all the worst from Wilson, Chamberlain, and Carter and changed them into one hopeless, squishy Hussein Obama.

I sure hope McCain has the balls to want the Presidency enough to take on this dangerous charlatan and to take the gloves off!

115 jcm  5/13/08 9:21:40 am reply quote 0

re: #103 coquimbojoe

Osama Bin Laden dry humping your leg.

That is a mental image I could do without thank you.

116 ironbill  5/13/08 9:21:44 am reply quote 0

Meanwhile, McCain's running around talking about global warming and carbon credits.

God help us

117 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/13/08 9:22:08 am reply quote 0

re: #100 Bob in Breckenridge

/Ummm...Weather Underground?

See 98

118 DistantThunder  5/13/08 9:22:13 am reply quote 1

Obama: Carter's Second Term - LUV it!

McCain won't use it because he is friends with Jimmah.

119 coquimbojoe  5/13/08 9:22:15 am reply quote 0

re: #113 Kenneth

"Open sore" & yesterday it was "57 States"... got any any more of Obama's freudian slips?

His girls 'punished' with babies er, his grandchildren....

120 alegrias  5/13/08 9:22:19 am reply quote 0

This morning a guy called Stephen Marks who's written about being a "Political Hitman" said people support Obama because he makes them feel good, like motivational speakers Tim Robbins or somesuch.

Yes, Obama's supporters dig Obama because he makes them hopeful.
Hamas is hopeful now.

121 Nevergiveup  5/13/08 9:22:19 am reply quote 0

re: #112 Ben Hur

In a post Cold War world, in which every "power" (China, Russia, Etc) is hell bent on advancing their national interests, what we don't need is a softist in office.

Well, now a days there is Viagra?

122 Bob in Breckenridge  5/13/08 9:22:31 am reply quote 0

re: #112 Ben Hur

In a post Cold War world, in which every "power" (China, Russia, Etc) is hell bent on advancing their national interests, what we don't need is a softist in office.

Interesting word- Softist. First time I've heard it.