Hey B. Hussein, how's it feel under the bus?

That's one bitter state.

No matter how badly it doesn't matter. MSM101.

re: #2 laZardo

That's one bitter state.

Clinging to Hillary...

The Clinton News Network, hmmm?

Doesn't matter. In poker terms, Hillary is "drawing dead". This may improve her hand, but Obama already has the Full House.

How much does it matter? Not at all.

My, that's a nice coat of shellack.

I love it!

It's interesting that, according to a recent poll. a majority of Democrats want Hillary to stay in the race.

Another bolt of lightning in the perfect storm that is the Democrat primary.

Hillary has already been knocked out, so she scores a meaningless tko on the ref when he`s not looking!

He lost again? Seems to be a trend.. let's hope it continues in the fall..

re: #6 Lizard by the Bay

Doesn't matter. In poker terms, Hillary is "drawing dead". This may improve her hand, but Obama already has the Full House.

Whatever. At this point I see Hillary in the role of woodpecker. Peck all those bugs loose.

_denver denver Denver DENVER DENVER

re: #10 goddessoftheclassroom

Yeah, I heard that too. What is up with that?

In the Obama administration, West Virginia will be ceded to the Palestinians.

re: #15 jcm

_denver denver Denver DENVER DENVER

RE. CREATE. 68!

re: #10 goddessoftheclassroom

It's interesting that, according to a recent poll. a majority of Democrats want Hillary to stay in the race.

over 70% I read somewhere..

No Bonkey has won the general election without winning West Virginia since 1916.

/Hillary clinging to her last true talking point

Charles, I hate to disagree but Barack did win the Hamas vote.

Watch for the media elites and Obamaniacs demanding she exit the race... how dare she stay in when WV shows Obama's failings to capture the hearts and minds of millions of Democrats.

They'll parrot the fact that Hillary captured like 90%+ of the white vote, all while ignoring that Obama runs those kinds of numbers up in the African American community without any similar charges of racist identity politics by those voters against Hillary.

Hillary has exposed Obama's problems - he can't even get a majority of votes in certain demographics that are key to winning any national election. That's why she's staying in (well, that and the ongoing Wright mess along with any other issues that might creep up pre-Denver).

Operation chaos

Maybe it's just me but, I find CNN's graphics to be very confusing.

They are all a bunch of clingy, gun owning white folks.

Obviously, it's due to the active racism of the West Virginians. How dare they not recognize Messiah when He graces our fine Presidential nomination process!

/please, do I need this disclaimer?

re: #14 infidelia

Whatever. At this point I see Hillary in the role of woodpecker. Peck all those bugs loose.

Speaking of little peckers, which one of them is Byrd backing?

Heh.

Guess the Dems are having the same buyers' remorse the Repubs are.

Just, unlike Huck, some of them can stand the schmuck (erm, schmuckette?) who overstayed the race.

Go Hillary Go!

Mew

re: #18 infidelia

Quick historical refresher...what happened in '68 again?

/was born in '87...history book knowledge of that time consists of Vietnam War and Watergate...

re: #23 Shug

Operation chaos

Strikes again!

re: #7 JustMyView

How much does it matter? Not at all.

You'd be crowing differently if your man won.

re: #22 lawhawk

Only whites can be racist, my friend. The blacks recognize Messiah, not the foolish white devils of WV and other racist states...at least, not yet.

i don't think she's even close to getting out.
thanks w. va.

re: #29 laZardo

Quick historical refresher...what happened in '68 again?

/was born in '87...history book knowledge of that time consists of Vietnam War and Watergate...

Riots, unrest, chaos! 'cept Denver it will be in the convention.

West Virginny. A bunch of crackers clinging to their guns and religion.

re: #29 laZardo

Quick historical refresher...what happened in '68 again?

Chicago democratic convention, riots in the streets, riots on the convention floor, as Da System nominated Hubert Horatio Humphrey, by then a senile old party hack, to oppose Richard Nixon, at the height of the Vietnam war.

The operative term being "riot".

As somebody brilliantly said earlier.

Hillary -- wins the popular vote
Obama-- gets the nomination based on delegates

Obama Selected not elected

re: #29 laZardo

Quick historical refresher...what happened in '68 again?

The Dem Party melted down at convention as the commies took over the party from the blue-collar patriots.

Maybe they should have Hard Likker and Hand Guns night.

re: #29 laZardo

Quick historical refresher...what happened in '68 again?

/was born in '87...history book knowledge of that time consists of Vietnam War and Watergate...

Calling on volunteers to fill in the details, but in a nutshell the Weatherman types made hash of the streets of Chicago (in more ways than one) and Mayor Daly's machine and the Chi police made hash of them.

Could someone explain the 6th question down, on the 3rd page? It's the "Vote for President in November"... who is answering what?

For some reason that one doesn't make much sense to me, but it could be this head cold that's stopping up my brain. lol

re: #29 laZardo

Quick historical refresher...what happened in '68 again?

/was born in '87...history book knowledge of that time consists of Vietnam War and Watergate...

There was this convention . . .

Kos moves on to more important subjects.
Results for the Mississippi First District special election...
How will it end? How WILL it end?

re: #10 goddessoftheclassroom

It's interesting that, according to a recent poll. a majority of Democrats want Hillary to stay in the race.

gotc- Yep, I found it amazing it was so high- It was like 64% want Hillary to stay vs. 34% wanting her to get out.

re: #29 laZardo

Quick historical refresher...what happened in '68 again?

The anti-war side of the Dem party tried to make themselves appear larger that they really were. Street protests were met with much police resistance. A lotta tear gas and running away. In the end the establishment candidate won, but lost in November.

Yah ! Two-thirds, baby! Not a single county for Obama! Way to go, Hillary!

/pumping fist into air

Has everyone seen seekeroftruth's link (last thread) on the Gaza phonebank for Obama?

re: #21 HelloDare

Charles, I hate to disagree but Barack did win the Hamas vote.

58th state?

re: #37 Shug

That retort sounds familiar...I wonder where I've heard that before?

re: #31 MandyManners

You'd be crowing differently if your man won.

I think I know the difference between a meaningful result, such as the one that occurred in the Mississippi house race tonight, and a meaningless result, such as the one that occurred in West Virginia. There's some symbolic significance and information relevant to the general election, but not to choosing the Dem candidate. At least I don't think so. :-)

re: #37 Shug

As somebody brilliantly said earlier.

Hillary -- wins the popular vote
Obama-- gets the nomination based on delegates

Obama Selected not elected

Heck, it could turn the other way, as Obama currently leads in popular vote, but Hillary gets the supers to go to her side based on the results in WV and the remaining states. Either way, you've got the party getting cleaved in two because they are seriously flawed candidates and the process by which the primaries operates created the conditions. Watch the DNC to "fix" the problem with adjustments to how they conduct primaries going forward.

re: #42 Syrah

There was this

This a real electoral map problem for Obama. Besides the West Virginia jinx, he can't historically or mathematically win the general election without winning at least one southern (aka Bible Belt) State. Ask Kerry about that.

/name the southern State Obama has a chance in hell of winning

Obama has sent big money to the superdelegates, almost $700,000 or more than 3.5 times what Hillary gave to the superdelegates. Also, Obama rakes in lots of money, and lots more where that came from, so the superdelegates know that if they support Obama, they stand to get a lot more money.

The difference in pledged delegates is only about 1/4 of the number of superdelegates, so the superdelegates have control of the nomination.

And the fix is in, so even though Hillary is likely to win the popular vote in the Dem contests overall, the superdelegates are going to go where the money is: Obama. The fix is in.

Messiah crawls to the finish line.

re: #29 laZardo

These fellers were invited to play for a riot.

re: #16 Fat Bastard VegetarianYeah, I heard that too. W

hat is up with that?

Buyer's remorse.

re: #48 Yankee Division Son

As well as the FARC vote - if they are successful in overthrowing the Colombian gov't, that'll be the 59th state.

re: #37 Shug

As somebody brilliantly said earlier.

Hillary -- wins the popular vote
Obama-- gets the nomination based on delegates

Obama Selected not elected

Um, the delegates are based on the results of elections, dude! Hillary is the one who has been trying to argue that something other than the results of the primaries and caucuses should be used to determine the nominee.

No matter what, this story will still have an ugly ending.

Hussein Obama will be the nominee and he will be defeated by McCain in November

re: #53 Killian Bundy

This a real electoral map problem for Obama. Besides the West Virginia jinx, he can't historically or mathematically win the general election without winning at least one southern (aka Bible Belt) State. Ask Kerry about that.

/name the southern State Obama has a chance in hell of winning

North Carolina?

Not that I want him to win, you know.

Instalanche incoming, to the Tim Townsend post...

re: #29 laZardo

Quick historical refresher...what happened in '68 again?

/was born in '87...history book knowledge of that time consists of Vietnam War and Watergate...

Geez, I have underwear older than you.

/Ok, not really, youngin'.

re: #46 J.S.

Yah ! Two-thirds, baby! Not a single county for Obama! Way to go, Hillary!

/pumping fist into air

Obama drew 4,000 people in Beckley WV not even three months ago. It was truly the biggest thing to happen in Beckley in years.

Today?...(crickets with restless leg syndrome).

re: #15 jcm

_denver denver Denver DENVER DENVER

God don't remind me, I just moved here. I better get ready for any possible Anarchist uprising. Governent peanut butter and crackers, bottled water, fire exstiguisher, 3000 rounds of pepper balls///////////

re: #53 Killian Bundy

/name the southern State Obama has a chance in hell of winning

I would have to say that he has a good chance in the South. They'll definitely turn out in droves like it's the Civil Rights March all over again just to vote for him...

Obama and Billary are singing from the same hymn sheet. Socialist scum!

VOTE REPUBLICAN.

re: #59 JustMyView

Not true - Democrats have a two tier system in place since 1968 - to prevent a repeat of that disastrous convention.

You get pledged delegates - those chosen based on proportional results of the primaries, plus a number of superdelegates who are unpledged to any candidate, but can vote any way they see fit up to the time their votes are counted at the convention.

That's why you see Obama and Clinton jockeying for supers. They know that every vote can change hands between now and the convention - and it already has seen some swaps.

re: #56 Slumbering Behemoth

Holy crap, sorry Lizards. I didn't watch the whole clip before linking.

NSFW
NSFW
NSFW

re: #68 jetziger

Vote GOP if you care about the future of America....

How long till the media calls W. Virginians racist?

re: #61 winston06

Just wonderful..

/no difference between any of them on "global warming", sorry, "climate change".

re: #36 itellu3times

Chicago democratic convention, riots in the streets, riots on the convention floor, as Da System nominated Hubert Horatio Humphrey, by then a senile old party hack, to oppose Richard Nixon, at the height of the Vietnam war.

The operative term being "riot".

The theme song. LOL

re: #68 jetziger

Just as long as McCain doesn't keep talking about the climate change malarkey. I really like J-Mac, but can't stand his views on climate and the environment.

re: #63 Charles

Instalanche incoming, to the Tim Townsend post...

Maybe a good time to open registration?

re: #66 Idle Drifter

Take a vacation

re: #6 Lizard by the Bay

Doesn't matter. In poker terms, Hillary is "drawing dead". This may improve her hand, but Obama already has the Full House.

Remember the famous Dewey headline? (Then again, maybe you don't.)

re: #48 Yankee Division Son

58th state?

Didn't Obama say he had been to 57 states? He had one more to go and they wouldn't let him go to Alaska and Hawaii. That makes 60. He confused 50 with 60. Numeracy was never his strong point.

re: #36 itellu3times

what's more appropriate than for HHH to get a crappy stadium named after him?

re: #76 MandyManners

Maybe a good time to open registration?

My tummy's grumblin'

re: #50 JustMyView

I think I know the difference between a meaningful result, such as the one that occurred in the Mississippi house race tonight, and a meaningless result, such as the one that occurred in West Virginia. There's some symbolic significance and information relevant to the general election, but not to choosing the Dem candidate. At least I don't think so. :-)

Every day this race continues is meaningful because it speaks volumes about the current division among Democrats. No matter how you slice it and dice it, there are a lot of Democrats who do not want Obama for president.

re: #52 infidelia

In other words, all the entertaining stuff we long to see again, this time in Denver.

Yep.

I've got the popcorn and beer all ready for the occasion.

re: #16 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Buyers' remorse may play a big part -- at least according to some of the comments on the thread I saw at Talk Left (admittedly a pro-Witch site).

re: #75 schultzw

And I think that his carbon cap-and-trade proposal will more than offset any good that his economical proposals will do.

/*sigh*, how did it come to this?

re: #20 Killian Bundy

No Bonkey has won the general election without winning West Virginia since 1916.

/Hillary clinging to her last true talking point

She can show that if Florida's and Michigan's popular votes were in her column she'd have won that aspect, even though Obama would have the majority of delegates.
She can point out the Democrat's whining that Bush won the 2000 Election but lost the popular vote and how hypocritical it would now be to deny her the nomination on similar grounds.

*reading up on the DNC '68*

Whoa. Those weren't the best of times...

It does not matter how bad he loses now, it's a done deal. Just ask the NY Times, Ted Kennedy, Hamas, et al.....God himself could come down from heaven and vote for Hillary and it would not matter to the left: Barack Hussein Obama is their Man now.

The great not-so-White-but-not-really-Black Hope. He is their key to REALLY changing the the good old USofA.....get ready for the most obscene display of one sided and biased "journalism" from the MSM since Patty Hearst's granddaddy got us to attack Cuba. Let's hope there is enough common sense inside the electorate's brains and let's also hope there is enough clout in the new media (FoxNews, talk radio, and blogs like this one) to stop this soon to be travesty.......

re: #83 gman

Every day this race continues is meaningful because it speaks volumes about the current division among Democrats. No matter how you slice it and dice it, there are a lot of Democrats who do not want Obama for president.

Only because they're racists!
/

What about his grandma ?

re: #77 winston06

Take a vacation

I've got to protect my stuff, I'd feel really stupid if I left town and something happened and I didn't get any pictures. Besides I'm using my vacation time to visit family back East and enjoy Lake Michigan and Western Michigan in summer.

re: #91 ted

What about his grandma ?

She's still under the bus with the Right Rev. Wright

Yes (West) Virginia, there really is a Jeremiah Wright.

re: #69 lawhawk

Not true - Democrats have a two tier system in place since 1968 - to prevent a repeat of that disastrous convention.

You get pledged delegates - those chosen based on proportional results of the primaries, plus a number of superdelegates who are unpledged to any candidate, but can vote any way they see fit up to the time their votes are counted at the convention.

That's why you see Obama and Clinton jockeying for supers. They know that every vote can change hands between now and the convention - and it already has seen some swaps.

Correct, but it's not right to say "selected, not elected", because something like 2/3 of the delegates are selected in primaries and caucuses. There's an element of selection. How important the supers are depends on how close the primaries/caucuses are. They're important this year, but haven't been for several cycles.

For some reason, people have this tendency to paint Bill Clinton's Presidency in a rosy light...

I remember being in Israel at the height of the "Lewinsky-cum-on-dress-gate" scandal, with Barelybelievable-Bill protesting his "innocence" before the world's TV cameras, while nationals of all stripes hooted with derision...'twas most embarrassing for me, as an American.

This is going to be a great Thanksgiving.

The pundits hate Hillary
Say she should quit
They don't like democracy
No, not one bit

The pundits are angry
They're all on the boil
Because they can't get out
The anointing oil

They want to say Obama
Has it sewn up
Don't want to admit
That he's really a pup

They ignore his pastor,
Advisors, and all
Don't want to admit
That they're all radical

But Hillary keeps on
Though she's on the ropes
And shows the true meaning
Of "change" and of "hope."

re: #93 Desert Dog

She's still under the bus with the Right Rev. Wright

I thought so.

re: #53 Killian Bundy

This a real electoral map problem for Obama. Besides the West Virginia jinx, he can't historically or mathematically win the general election without winning at least one southern (aka Bible Belt) State. Ask Kerry about that.

/name the southern State Obama has a chance in hell of winning

Perhaps Georgia? In any event, your logic is a little flawed. True, no one has won the Presidency without carrying one Southern state, but that doesn't mean they needed to. Clinton would have won re-election over Dole even if you took every southern state win away from him.

re: #67 laZardo

I would have to say that he has a good chance in the South. They'll definitely turn out in droves like it's the Civil Rights March all over again just to vote for him...

Those are red states.

/not even 90% of the black vote will turn them blue, but we'll see as the map starts coalescing

re: #56 Slumbering Behemoth

Hillary is hanging on for two reasons...she was a lock in W.Virginia and Kentucky,after that she is toast and she knows it...if only we could hit the big trifecta and they all 3 could lose.

The Road to Hell is paved with Superdelegates

This is an interesting article from Forbes via RealClearPolitics. Seems to me that Barry won a lot states in the primary that he will not win in the General....whereas Hildebeast won the biggies.....leave it to the Dems to make it so "fair" that it screws it up.....oh well, their intentions were good, so that's all that matters...right?

re: #36 itellu3times

1968 Chicago democratic convention, riots in the streets, riots on the convention floor, as Da System nominated Hubert Horatio Humphrey, by then a senile old party hack, to oppose Richard Nixon, at the height of the Vietnam war.

The operative term being "riot".

And Dan Rather getting punched in the stomach on the convention floor!

Obama will have to self-destruct (a possibility) very soon for Lady MacBill to have a chance.

On a side note: However this election plays out, I would not trade places with Bill Clinton for anything this world has to offer. Win or lose, his life won't be worth living.

Any idea where instalanche is coming from?

re: #101 Lizard by the Bay

This isn't shaping up as a landslide.

/current polls have 20% of Clinton voters boltering to McCain

re: #83 gman

Every day this race continues is meaningful because it speaks volumes about the current division among Democrats. No matter how you slice it and dice it, there are a lot of Democrats who do not want Obama for president.

You're right, but, based on the results so far, there are more who don't want Hillary to be president.

re: #81 schultzw

what's more appropriate than for HHH to get a crappy stadium named after him?

Well, it's sad, he'd been a lot better than that, back in the democratic socialist heydeys.

re: #63 Charles

Instalanche incoming, to the Tim Townsend post...

What is instalanche?

re: #108 gman

Any idea where instalanche is coming from?

Don't tug on superman's cape.

re: #29 laZardo

Quick historical refresher...what happened in '68 again?

After Gene McCarthy's strong showing against LBJ in the early primaries, LBJ dropped out, announcing on national TV that he would not to seek the nomination. RFK entered the race and beat McCarthy in the definitive California primary only to be gunned down that night by a Pali terrorist named Sirhan Sirhan. The convention in Chicago was rigged to nominate LBJ's Veep Hubert Horatio Humphrey, who refused to challenge LBJ's position supporting the Viet Nam war. Virtually, every voter in the Dem primaries was disenfranchised. Many radical groups as well as thousands of young people and activists camped out by the lake in Chicago. When Mayor Daly's police attempted to clear them from the park and the streets outside of the convention, there was a sizable riot on two consecutive nights. Interestingly, John Belushi was at the head of one of the rows of protesters, and threw a cannister of tear gas back at the police. The police beat hundreds of protesters with clubs, and in the convention Daly was villified by the McCarthy supporters. It was a very ugly seen ending in the nomination of HHH, with Edmund Muskie as the VP nominee. The convention put the Dem campaign on a real downslope. Humphrey rallied late in the campaign and lost to Nixon in a sq